May 13, 2013
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Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 03:33 AM (53z96)
Biased we much?
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Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 03:33 AM (53z96)
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Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 03:35 AM (53z96)
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Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 03:35 AM (GEICT)
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Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 03:36 AM (53z96)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 03:36 AM (GEICT)
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Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 03:37 AM (53z96)
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Posted by: Parker at May 13, 2013 03:40 AM (YkW3i)
Those three day hangovers can be tough.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 03:41 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2013 07:39 AM
When Issa "investigates," nothing is a "target."
Think: smokes, mirrors, publicity for Issa, bullshit.
Posted by: MrScribbler at May 13, 2013 03:41 AM (mHrip)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2013 07:39 AM (+98Gb)
If Hillary isn't the #1 target then we are weak and stupid and deserve to lose.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 03:42 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: Parker at May 13, 2013 07:40 AM (YkW3i)
No but I think Inhof has actually mentioned it.
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 03:42 AM (53z96)
Posted by: MrScribbler at May 13, 2013 03:42 AM (mHrip)
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Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 07:36 AM (53z96)
He came off pretty well in that exchange. But the real story on FNS yesterday was Kucinich being part of the panel and not feeling obliged to carry donk water on either Benghazi or the IRS horseshit. For all of his major flaws, Kucinich is very media savvy and understands that donks trying to play politics on the deaths of 4 heroes is a big fucking mistake when the facts finally come out. Plus he was against intervening in Libya so he gets to point out that he was right. But his biggest surprise was when he remarked on all the phrases like "constitution" and "bill of rights" that were flagged by the IRS for groups and that even though he's a lib donk and has nothing to do with the Tea Party, it was a national scandal for them to be targeted. Repubs should pay attention to him instead of fat fuck Rove when it comes to framing the story.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 13, 2013 03:43 AM (DUsgr)
Posted by: Mr Pink at May 13, 2013 03:43 AM (23DWo)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2013 03:43 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: DangerGirl @deadlyestrogen at May 13, 2013 03:43 AM (4cA6A)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2013 03:44 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: kreplach at May 13, 2013 03:44 AM (u5ozF)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 03:44 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2013 03:45 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Dale Gribble at May 13, 2013 03:45 AM (xCh2P)
I know I know, I'm talking fantasy world stuff.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2013 03:46 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2013 07:44 AM (+98Gb)
You know what a real non-starter was? McRINO's 2008 campaign.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 13, 2013 03:46 AM (DUsgr)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 03:47 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2013 07:43 AM (+98Gb)
I disagree.
The best we can do with Obama (pbuh) is to neuter him. keep him from doing much more damage.
But with Hillary, we can destroy her reputation, and tar her permanently with the stain of Benghazi.
That will keep her out of the running in 2016.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 03:48 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: Johnny McCain [/i] at May 13, 2013 03:48 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 13, 2013 07:46 AM (DUsgr)
And to think I actually went down and stood in line in the rain to vote for that shit head. (But it was mainly for Palin)
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 03:48 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2013 03:49 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2013 07:45 AM (+98Gb)
When I saw that he was on the panel, I thought that piece of shit Ailes had sold us out again to get party invitations from his lib friends. I think Kristol and Kimberley Strassel were as surprised as I was by his performance. Then again, he got redistricted out of a job so the donks could save the seats of worthless retards like Marcia Fudge so Dennis probably figures he doesn't owe those cocksuckers a fucking thing.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 13, 2013 03:49 AM (DUsgr)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 07:48 AM (O6Tmi)
Maybe we should be rooting for her to be the nominee in 2016??
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 03:50 AM (53z96)
I know lots of people are mad at Issa for overpromising last year, but that's the way it goes sometimes. You shoot high, and miss.
I'd rather he keep shooting though.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2013 03:50 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 13, 2013 03:50 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 03:51 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2013 03:52 AM (+98Gb)
He isn't even pretending any more.
John McCain: a shit sandwich without the bread.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 03:52 AM (O6Tmi)
Wanna hear something really scary? There were Catholics on...both sides!
Jews and Muslims, too. A good conspiracy thinker could make something of that. "Elders of Wesley," indeed.
Posted by: comatus at May 13, 2013 03:54 AM (JNUY4)
It's impossible for them to defend persecution of Jewish groups. It raises the memories of pre-war Germany and invites unpleasant comparisons. Plus it also would call into question the numbers of Muslim Brotherhood members and fans within the administration.
Therefore, I would like more investigation of this aspect.
Good morning, all!
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 03:54 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 13, 2013 07:52 AM (OWjjx)
The problem is the MFM is shielding him on the IRS. They are blaming everybody but Obama. And anyone with half a brain cell knows that for the IRS to do that the order had to come from him.
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 03:54 AM (53z96)
John McCain: a shit sandwich without the bread.
With extra shit, and a side of shit with a piquant shit dipping sauce.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 13, 2013 03:55 AM (0IhFx)
Posted by: real joe at May 13, 2013 03:55 AM (PD2ad)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2013 03:55 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Mr Pink at May 13, 2013 03:56 AM (xWQ9x)
Pickering - listen closely to his interview at the end of Meet the Depressed.
They were not charged to look in to, nor did they ever look in to, the ever changing talking points and the cover up.
They only looked at the level of security that was present at Benghazi and who made those decisions.
They didn't look at the cover up at all
Posted by: Thunderb at May 13, 2013 03:56 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: real joe at May 13, 2013 07:55 AM (PD2ad)
Before the 2012 election I would have said OBama has poisoned the well for black politicians in national elections. But it appears that it is impossible to poison that well.
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 03:56 AM (53z96)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 07:48 AM
In part, the "we can't bring up any bad shit about Choom Boy, because people will think we're being all nasty and racisty and stuff" attitude is what will insure that Shrillery or someone equally evil and loathsome will run -- and be elected -- in 2016.
I guess we will never learn one of the vital ingredients to the left's success: the mad dog (or "bite, and keep on biting") approach to dealing with the opposition.
No, we gotta be all nice and Ed Morrissey-like, burying the enemy in a flood of kindness. Works every time, right?
Posted by: MrScribbler at May 13, 2013 03:57 AM (mHrip)
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 07:50 AM (53z96)
That's a tough call. On one hand, she is such an unpleasant person that six months of just Hillary, all the time might alienate the entire country. On the other hand, look who these idiots elected...twice!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 03:57 AM (O6Tmi)
THERE!
Got my chin firmly planted into a cupped hand with elbow planted astride the keyboard and single finger typing withe the other hand which means......
Good Morning/night...
slumber is mine......
Posted by: Richard at May 13, 2013 03:57 AM (o2AEs)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 03:57 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2013 03:58 AM (+98Gb)
"And even if you somehow managed to get rid of Obama, you would still get Biden."
Don't kid yourself - the reason we aren't seeing a worldwide depression right now is because of the Reaganesque tax agreement that Bitch McConnell was able to negotiate in a backroom deal with O'Biden.
O'Biden might be a shrill plagiarizing jackass of a papist nitwit [dull even by papal standards], but he doesn't hate this country with the seething nihilistic rage that O'Bammy does.
Our economy is sputtering along right now because of that deal.
Well, that deal, and the revolution in petroleum fracking.
Posted by: The Name at May 13, 2013 03:59 AM (dScAL)
Posted by: real joe at May 13, 2013 03:59 AM (PD2ad)
European Muslims. No different than the blue staters moving to the red states and trying to eff them up too. Just with less violence.
I never have figured out why those that think our home is so great they want to move here, then want to change it.
Go home and stay.
Posted by: Golfman in NC at May 13, 2013 04:00 AM (JUQwH)
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Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 07:35 AM (53z96)
They could have authenticated pictures of her handing a lackey a giant poster dated 9-11-12 saying, "Do not send military forces to help Ambassador Stevens", and the MFM would still find a way to spin it to help her.
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 13, 2013 04:00 AM (Gkhxf)
Posted by: Dept. of Acuracy at May 13, 2013 04:00 AM (+I8Mq)
Indeed McCain is ensuring Obama acts more the ass not less.
We now have a duty to act every bit the dicks that the mules are if/when we get power back.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at May 13, 2013 04:00 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Thorvald at May 13, 2013 04:01 AM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: Mr Pink at May 13, 2013 04:02 AM (xWQ9x)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2013 04:02 AM (cB3Ay)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 07:57 AM (O6Tmi)
We can't stand the sight of the JEF because he's such a lowlife grifter but to the LIV dumbasses he looks like an ok guy. Rodham looks like some bag woman who escaped from the homeless shelter. Her idea of personal hygiene is squirting some lemon Pledge in her pits and cooter.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 13, 2013 04:03 AM (DUsgr)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 13, 2013 04:03 AM (0XV8C)
Posted by: dogfish at May 13, 2013 04:03 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: Thorvald at May 13, 2013 04:03 AM (1V6Pv)
I think it likely that the orders came from OFA, who probably knows which of its members were IRS employees. (I cannot imagine that they don't know that, with all of their fancy data bases.)
So, it wouldn't be hard for someone in OFA to get the word out to the IRS folks to hinder the Tea Party applications through excessive questioning (always hoping they could find something illegal in all of the emails they were demanding). Remember also that Mitt Romney's donations to a pro-marriage (or anti-gay as the Obama people called it) group were leaked to the Obama campaign by someone in the IRS. Also remember Harry Reid's comments about Romney not paying taxes, which he never explained or provided proof for.)
I will bet cash money this can be traced back to OFA in Chicago. And of course, it is illegal. We will probably not get Obama on this one but OFA, which he is STILL collecting money throrugh, can be crippled. OFA is how he intends to run things after he is officially out of office, whether or not he decides to get Michelle to run.
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 04:05 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 13, 2013 04:05 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 04:05 AM (9Bj8R)
I think it has more to do with his skin color, actually. Yes, the left and the media (BIRM) hates Rs, but there is a grumbling among liberals that has been there for quite a while now.
Obama is not popular. It may look like he is, because they feel they have to cover for him, but believe me, the cognitive dissonance among your average liberals is great. They know Obama is a bum, but he's black, so they can't abandon him.
I don't really know how long that will last. Maybe not much longer, once the Obamacare business starts to become more obvious to them.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2013 04:06 AM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 08:05 AM (9Bj8R)
Go big or go home, I always say.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:06 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: dogfish at May 13, 2013 08:03 AM (nsOJa)
Unless you have first-hand knowledge of its existence I will reserve judgment.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 04:06 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 13, 2013 04:07 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: real joe at May 13, 2013 04:08 AM (PD2ad)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo"
CBD, let's meet for cocktails!
Posted by: Huma Abedin at May 13, 2013 04:08 AM (dScAL)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 04:09 AM (GEICT)
No, I have not. Let me drop her a note.
I do know she was recently swamped at work though.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:10 AM (sbV1u)
Hayes-Tilden and Nixon-Ford were, in their way, skin-of-the-teeth affairs; we probably have TFG because of Bush-Gore, and Jackson's followers were so enraged by JQ Adams that the spoils system, the first century of the Dem Party, and the "late unpleasantness" may have all been offshoots of the solution. But none of them directly addressed what we are facing now.
We do not have a constitutional means to deal with the crisis of a runaway party or the need for an electoral do-over. And if we did, it would be invoked constantly.
Posted by: comatus at May 13, 2013 04:11 AM (JNUY4)
I think that you underestimate their dedication to Obama. It isn't just lip service....their entire existence is wrapped up in his success.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 04:11 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 13, 2013 04:11 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Mr Pink at May 13, 2013 04:12 AM (xWQ9x)
Posted by: mindful webworker - commenter on award-winnin' Tea Party startin' blog at May 13, 2013 04:12 AM (6B4ha)
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 04:13 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 08:13 AM (GoIUi)
Doesn't the Catholic Church have some rule about "forceful and obstinate disregard for the tenants of the Church"?
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 04:15 AM (53z96)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 04:15 AM (GEICT)
Yes.
Several Canons, Canon 915 leaps to mind.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:16 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: BurtTC at May 13, 2013 07:50 AM (BeSEI)
Plus if you say she's the target, it allows her to ramp up her threats and intimidation against whistleblowers. If she thinks she's safe, she might just lighten up. This allows you to come out later and say that, in light of recent testimony, her actions warrant further review which was the plan all along.
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 13, 2013 04:16 AM (Gkhxf)
Posted by: Baldy at May 13, 2013 04:17 AM (tyDFN)
They bitch about small things, but they know when to get in line.
That's the secret of the Dem's success....they have perfect message discipline, and aren't afraid to punish the loudmouths.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 04:17 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 13, 2013 04:17 AM (ZshNr)
His Bishop has spoken to him on more than one occasion.
You can't exactly sue him in court if he keeps calling himself "Catholic".
God does get the last word, however.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:17 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 13, 2013 04:17 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 13, 2013 04:18 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 04:18 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 04:19 AM (GEICT)
"Canon," not "cannon" ;-)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:20 AM (sbV1u)
Oh there you are! I couldn't access comments and thought comments were down. Must have just been my crappy internet connection.
I'm convinced this IRS thing is more broad and pervasive than we are being led to believe. And, I believe it goes farther than non-profits, too.
Posted by: Liberty Lover at May 13, 2013 04:20 AM (2DgBs)
Posted by: Baldy at May 13, 2013 04:21 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 08:18 AM (GEICT)
She can threaten to release the sex tapes she and Bill took when they conceived Chelsea.
To avoid that I would vote Democrat.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 04:21 AM (O6Tmi)
Do you really want me to give you the short course in Canon Law here? Really?
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:21 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 13, 2013 08:16 AM (sbV1u)
I was thinking more along the lines of heresy in the first degree. That for which you should be excommunicated.
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 04:21 AM (53z96)
A little early for Mr. Bannion. No coffee?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 04:22 AM (O6Tmi)
You can't exactly sue him in court if he keeps calling himself "Catholic".
God does get the last word, however.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 13, 2013 08:17 AM (sbV1u)
Biden's a fucking lowlife liar who should be in jail. Everybody gives him a pass like a slow child but he's as malicious a prick as they come, like when he was smearing the driver of the truck that killed his first wife in an accident that she caused stating that he'd been drinking at lunch even though there was no mention of that in the police report. Once shit like that gets out then his dumbfuck supporters start spreading it as well and you have a good man's reputation flushed down the shitter thank to a vindictive asshole like Biden.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 13, 2013 04:22 AM (DUsgr)
Posted by: mindful webworker gets gassy just thinking about TFG at May 13, 2013 04:22 AM (WgBz9)
It's not heresy because it's not a matter of dogma. Unfortunately.
However, I'm really in line with where you're going with that.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:22 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 04:23 AM (GEICT)
The one good thing I can say about Ted Kennedy was that when Pope Benedict visited the United States, although he attended the mass he did NOT present himself for communion, unlike Nancy Pelosi who apparently considers herself a doctrinal expert.
The Church is currently undergoing low-level persecution, in case you all haven't noticed, with the gay marriage efforts and the attempted forced compliance with Obamacare. Bishops must balance making public controversies with politicians with the good of their people as a whole. In case people have forgotten, there has long been the accusation from some quarters that the Church tries to run American politics from Rome. I have no doubt Obama would stir up that idea again.
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 04:23 AM (GoIUi)
My morning is now complete. I was worried about you CH, you seemed to be mellowing.
Welcome back. :::: sniff ::::
And yes, he's a fucking scumbag in the extreme.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:24 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 04:24 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Baldy at May 13, 2013 04:24 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 08:23 AM (GEICT)
Because the Jesuits in America have pussied out and no longer arm themselves.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 04:24 AM (O6Tmi)
By the way - here is the Democratic definition of the Republicans "over playing their hand":
"They're making us look like who we really are."
Posted by: An Observation at May 13, 2013 04:25 AM (ylhEn)
Opposition to abortion is not dogma? Hasn't there been a Papal Bull on it?
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 04:25 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2013 04:25 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 07:34 AM (53z96)
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You're right, it wasn't the collapse of the auto industry it was the city leadership.When men who had some business sense like Marx, Couzens, Lodge, and Cobo were in charge, the city was doing okay. Then along came Coleman Young and it was all downhill after that. I spent a lot of time with family in Detroit back in the 50s and 60s. It was a great place to live. All the houses they lived in are gone but one, and that neighborhood is pretty awful.
Posted by: Deanna at May 13, 2013 04:25 AM (c2Y3j)
Posted by: Baldy at May 13, 2013 04:25 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 04:26 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 08:18 AM (GEICT)
You need to listen to him. He's right.
Posted by: Demoted whistleblower Greg Hicks at May 13, 2013 04:28 AM (Gkhxf)
Posted by: Baldy at May 13, 2013 04:29 AM (tyDFN)
>>>And whatever happened to excommunication?
Screw that, how about Interdiction? Deny it for whole fkn countries until they get rid of toads like him.
Posted by: Bigby's Opposable Thumbs at May 13, 2013 04:30 AM (3ZtZW)
Think of it as due process. The Church takes due process to the absolutel ridiculous extreme because the goal is to get the offender to repent - not to kick him to the curb. So the Church holds its hand out - way too much in my opinion though.
Despite the fact that this is from Wikipedia, it's still right in line with my Canon Law training. (Oddly, the exact question about an abortion-supporting politician presenting himself for Communion was on my final).
"It can be more difficult to determine whether in a particular case all four elements referred to are simultaneously [emphasis added] present:
- a sin,
- which is grave,
- which is manifest,
- and which is obstinately persevered in.
The action must be a sin in the eyes of the Church, not merely something distasteful or irritating; personal guilt on the part of the person concerned is not required.
The sinful action must be 'seriously disruptive of ecclesiastical or moral order'".
All of those conditions have very specific ecclesiastical meanings. And that's the problem, they frequently skate on what amounts to an ecclesiastical technicality every time.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:30 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Martin Luther at May 13, 2013 04:30 AM (w2NGZ)
Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2013 04:31 AM (CMlD4)
If IRS and Labor Dept went after people, what other Depts went after people in a discriminatory manner? Is it possible there were more? There are so many Depts with onerous regs, this could be so much more widespread than Congress knows. Was HHS or Medicare or EPA or DOJ used against people? What about that guitar case? Wasn't that political?
Posted by: Baldy at May 13, 2013 08:24 AM (tyDFN)
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My HR Dept Manager received an obnoxious letter from the DoL demanding payroll information broken out by ethnic group and sex. They wanted us to report weekly for the next year. When I found her responding to the DoL requests, I shut it down. I then got several phone calls from the DoL insisting that I do this for 'a study'. I told them we won't be 'participating' and they could not force us to report.
Posted by: Liberty Lover at May 13, 2013 04:31 AM (2DgBs)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 04:31 AM (9Bj8R)
I would also collate the permit denials with the employee doing the denial and the OFA membership list.
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 04:32 AM (GoIUi)
Morning, Morons. Sorry IÂ’m late. Here are a couple of stories about the great Boris Karloff:
He enjoyed doing horror films, but he never pretended that they were anything other than what they were. “My wife,” he once said, “is a woman of great taste. She has seen very, very few of my pictures.”
By the end of his life, Karloff was forced to wear a metal brace on one leg. “I can’t breathe and I can’t walk,” he’d joke about his declining health. “Must be the result of carrying too many bodies upstairs!”
Hope you all have a wonderful day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 13, 2013 04:32 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2013 04:32 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 04:33 AM (GEICT)
"And yet, as far as I can see, no one in the church has said or done a damn thing about it. Same as quite a few other prominent Catholic members of the Dem party."
This.
I've waited my entire life for a pope who would excommunicate these child-murdering politicians.
And all I've heard for my entire life: Crickets.
Crickets.
Crickets.
Chirp. Chirp. Chirp.
Crickets.
For Vatican City, it's all about the power.
Daren't upset the apple cart.
Gotta keep them shekels flowing.
Obsequiousness to The Prince of This World, as Pope Francis called Him the other day.
Obsequiousness to The Prince of This World.
Something the Papists are intimately familiar with.
Obsequiousness to The Prince of This World.
Posted by: Huma Abedin at May 13, 2013 04:33 AM (dScAL)
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A lot of Catholics feel the same way. Actually, I should qualify that, a lot of serious Catholics feel the same way.
But you're not a Bishop, so frankly it doesn't matter what you think.
I'm not a Bishop either.
But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:35 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:35 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Bigby's Opposable Thumbs at May 13, 2013 04:36 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2013 04:36 AM (CMlD4)
I'm down with that.
In fact, I'd work all 5 Masses on Sundays for a year just to make sure I had the chance to do it at least once.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:36 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2013 04:37 AM (8D0/R)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 13, 2013 04:37 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 04:37 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 04:38 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 13, 2013 04:38 AM (ZshNr)
I noticed.
Where's CBD when you actually need him?
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:38 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: fluffy at May 13, 2013 04:38 AM (z9HTb)
They're our brothers and sisters in arms in the fight to get this nation back so just fucking zip all the stupid shit.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 13, 2013 04:39 AM (DUsgr)
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 04:39 AM (53z96)
My theory on why this is that there was a famous Interdict against England due to evil King John refusing to recognize the Pope's appointment for the Archbishop of Canterbury. This interdiction was actually covered in a couple of episodes of Robin Hood starring Richard Greene, back in the 1950's. I distinctly remember seeing that as a kid, because they made a big deal of shutting the church doors and ringing bells and such.
Anyway, because of the TV series many Protestants also know about interdiction. I find that fascinating.
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 04:39 AM (GoIUi)
We Jews are firmly in two camps, much like almost every other significant political, philosphical and cultural question.
The liberal assimilated Jews just love them some abortion, and find justification in tortured readings of the Talmud and Bible...mostly in what is not said.
Observant Jews are against abortion unless the life of the mother is in jeopardy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 04:39 AM (O6Tmi)
Sounds like you're assuming that it doesn't piss people off.
Trust me, it does.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:40 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 04:40 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Liberty Lover at May 13, 2013 04:40 AM (2DgBs)
Posted by: mindful webworker will bring the salt at May 13, 2013 04:40 AM (ndxIr)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 13, 2013 04:41 AM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 04:41 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 13, 2013 04:41 AM (XvrTA)
Posted by: mindful webworker can spell; my cell can't at May 13, 2013 04:42 AM (ndxIr)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 04:42 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 08:26 AM (9Bj8R)
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Kucinich was/is a flake but he had some ethics at least. I'm not surprised by his answer, he often talked about the government targeting groups. Of course they were usually Liberal groups but once in a while he'd stick up for a Moderate or even Conservative group. I think his flakiness includes some conspiracy theories on government power.
Posted by: Deanna at May 13, 2013 04:43 AM (c2Y3j)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 08:41 AM (9Bj8R)
They ape what their (female) rabbi says during the interfaith service at the local mosque.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 04:43 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: H.R.C. at May 13, 2013 04:43 AM (VIaw0)
Posted by: Fritz at May 13, 2013 04:43 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at May 13, 2013 04:44 AM (52n2x)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 04:44 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at May 13, 2013 04:44 AM (EZl54)
Posted by: [/i][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:45 AM (hNXHo)
Not good.
Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 13, 2013 08:41 AM (XvrTA)
My flag-burney-liberal parents both think the IRS SHOULD specifically target conservative groups.
Liberals never oppose tyranny when they think they'll get to be the tyrants.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 13, 2013 04:45 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Baldy at May 13, 2013 04:45 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 04:45 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 13, 2013 04:46 AM (U2UQk)
Be gentle with me.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 07:47 AM (GEICT)
Needs cowbell.
Posted by: Jorge Carlin: Mexican Zombie Soul Stealer at May 13, 2013 04:46 AM (i7B17)
Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at May 13, 2013 04:47 AM (XvrTA)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 08:44 AM (9Bj8R)
Eh there have been plenty of meltdowns in larger tournaments than that. Sergio just happened to get into a "who can be the bigger asshole" contest with Eldrick, which upped the attention. Woods wasn't exactly classy or conciliatory in his responses.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 13, 2013 04:47 AM (DUsgr)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 13, 2013 08:38 AM (sbV1u)
I hope you realize how much simpler this would be with some help from you.
But NO!
Mr. Bannion won't share his toys.
http://tinyurl.com/d68993f
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 04:48 AM (O6Tmi)
Because you personally don't see it means it's not happening?
How many Catholic blogs you read every day? Ever write letters to your Bishop? Or talk to him personally about it? I mean, I know you're not Catholic, but you care about the issue, right? So you must be engaged on it.
Quick, no Googling, who's the Bishop of the Diocese of St. Augustine?
I volunteer at the Diocesan Tribunal here one day a month. I talk to these priests and lay staff. They get a constant drumbeat of dissent about the issue.
But it's sort of a Catholic "thing" to keep it in the family.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:48 AM (sbV1u)
"They're our brothers and sisters in arms in the fight to get this nation back so just fucking zip all the stupid shit."
Actually, they aren't.
Importing all the Catholics in the late 19th / early 20th Century, for their cheap manual labor, was what tipped this country electorally away from the classical principles of the Founders and into the Socialism which the Frankfurt School was pushing.
Over the years, the WASPs have been the only group which has shown any consistent adherence to the founding principles.
For whatever reason, by and large, the Catholics just don't "get it".
If they have to choose between the guaranteed flow of shekels versus actually doing something proactive about all of God's children being murdered in the wombs of their mothers, then the Vatican will choose the guaranteed flow of shekels, every time.
It's just their nature - they can't seem to help it.
Posted by: Huma Abedin at May 13, 2013 04:49 AM (dScAL)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 04:49 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 04:49 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: RWC at May 13, 2013 04:50 AM (fWAjv)
Ha! That tank was from one of my sister battalions! 1-37 Armor, 2d Brigade, 1st Infantry Division.
No mission too difficult, no sacrifice to great. Duty first!
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:50 AM (sbV1u)
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Three-bean salad spatter on the walls...., it's horrifying.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 13, 2013 04:51 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:51 AM (sbV1u)
*comes tumbling into thread as, in the background, a small private jet collides with a massive yacht called the Cocaine Cutie, leading to a massive explosion*
*stands up*
*dusts self off*
Whew! What a week! Sorry to have been MIA, all, but as you can tell from the smoldering wreckage behind me, I've been carrying out a series of covert guerilla attacks on certain South American and eastern European drug interests,# so I had to keep my whereabouts on the down low. What'd I miss?
*glances at various headlines of the past week*
Oh.
*glances at some more*
Oh my.
*glances at even more*
AH. So shit status = real? SWEET.
I've got to go away for extended periods more often! I bet if I took a TWO week vacation I'd come back to find Obama impeached and Hillary in leg shackles.
*starts planning*
#Actually I was in PA visiting my sister and her husband, but that sounds infinitely less interesting.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorirst) Party Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at May 13, 2013 04:52 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 08:37 AM (9Bj8R)
I'm starting to wonder if this isn't one of two things. First, it's gaining traction, so the media has to pretend to get in front of it. There's an old quote attributed to former Notre Dame coach Ara Parseghian, "Leadership is, when an angry mob is chasing you down the street, making it appear that you are leading a parade." Once they are in front of it, they can control the narrative. They can start out as being outraged, then slowly dial it back.
Second, it gives them the moral high ground then to hammer on Republicans when the next "thing" comes up.
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 13, 2013 04:52 AM (Gkhxf)
The Church is not a democracy. Also, Bishops are pretty much in charge of their own dioceses and rarely come into the view of Rome unless something is particularly egregious.
There are over 1.4 billion Catholics in the world. The Vatican has 800 residents and 2400 workers who live in Rome. That is 3200 people doing EVERYTHING, including museum curators, Swiss Guards, janitors, priests in the Curia, priests in the Magesterium, Vatican choir, everyone.
So although Biden looks like a big deal here, he's a little dot when Pope Francis has to look at Catholics being massacred in Egypt, China driving the Church underground, etc.
Perhaps this can help explain why there doesn't seem to be more noise.
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 04:52 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 04:52 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: mama winger at May 13, 2013 04:53 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2013 04:54 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Baldy at May 13, 2013 04:54 AM (tyDFN)
Posted by: Judge Elihu Smails at May 13, 2013 04:55 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 04:55 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: RWC at May 13, 2013 08:50 AM (fWAjv)
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Actually the Chief Counsel that had a meeting about this mess is an Obama appointee so the Bush thing doesn't fly anyway. And Chief Counsel is hardly low-level. I think that fact more than anything else made it something the LSM couldn't ignore.
Posted by: Deanna at May 13, 2013 04:55 AM (c2Y3j)
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 04:56 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 08:49 AM (GEICT)
I've always maintained that if flag burning is legal, cross burning should be too. For that matter, so should Koran burning.
It's free speech, right? Just a symbol, right?
(For the record, I can accept flag burning as an ugly part of free speech, and therefore defend the legality of doing it. I'll stand by to be roundly condemned if it comes to that, but I'll hold the line.)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 13, 2013 04:57 AM (fwARV)
199 Regular Moron:
Ugh! Sounds exactly like my scenario. If the House Leadership had any balls they would investigate the IRS from cellar to attic. This can be a campaign issue we can ride, too.
Posted by: Liberty Lover at May 13, 2013 04:57 AM (2DgBs)
Posted by: Mo'bama/Jarrett 2016 at May 13, 2013 04:57 AM (Jh9QN)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2013 04:57 AM (8D0/R)
Some of us thought you were dead... or acosted... or something.
Welcome back.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 13, 2013 04:58 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 13, 2013 08:55 AM (BBWjt)
It's the Jell-O. The word "salad" should never be connected to Jell-O in any way. There oughta be a law.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorirst) Party Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at May 13, 2013 04:58 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: RWC at May 13, 2013 04:58 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 13, 2013 04:58 AM (XYSwB)
I put this open thread up because the cobloggers are unavailable.
Instead of being able to go about my business, I have to watch the thread because you are being an ass.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 04:58 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 13, 2013 04:58 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 13, 2013 04:58 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 04:58 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 13, 2013 04:59 AM (8Hnjw)
Welcome back.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 13, 2013 08:58 AM (fwARV)
*checks Washington Nearsider's basement well*
Just checking...
Posted by: EC at May 13, 2013 04:59 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: mama winger at May 13, 2013 04:59 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: RWC at May 13, 2013 04:59 AM (fWAjv)
You're wrong, but nothing I am going to say is going to convince you otherwise. You want results right now, and that's not the way the Church works.
I have to assume the leadership is approaching this in the manner it sees fit.
Don't forget, the structure of the Church is parochial. Each Bishop runs his Diocese the way HE sees fit. So here in the Diocese of Arlington, we don't have these issues. (I note with some amusement that local DC pols do not present themselves for Communion in this Diocese since we're known for being conservative.) Other Dioceses DO have these issues (I'm looking at you Cardinal Wuerl) becuase they are "inclusive" and "pastoral"
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 04:59 AM (sbV1u)
22IBD throws the BS flag on IRS lower level employees being the culprits in the current scandal.
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It can't be a good sign when your initial attempt at damage control is demolished immediately. Does bad things to future credibility regarding the case.
Posted by: Your friends at the IRS at May 13, 2013 05:00 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2013 05:00 AM (CMlD4)
I think it should be legal and protected.
I also think the ass-kicking that follows should be legal and protected.
Posted by: EC at May 13, 2013 05:00 AM (GQ8sn)
Oh.
We were hoping that you were teaching that Master Class in Pole Dancing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 05:00 AM (O6Tmi)
Hey, while you're there, check that false panel behind the life size velvet Elvis painting.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 05:00 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 08:58 AM (GEICT)
Here, we agree. :-)
I'm reminded of the anecdote of the British trying to stop a cannibalistic tribe from eating a captive.
The chief told the Colonel that his tribe was merely following their traditions.
"Roger that," said the Colonel (or whatever the Brits said back then). "Where I come from, it's our tradition to hang cannibals. You guys go ahead and follow your traditions, then we'll follow ours."
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 13, 2013 05:00 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Icedog at May 13, 2013 05:01 AM (9ScGj)
Just checking...
Posted by: EC at May 13, 2013 08:59 AM (GQ8sn)
MWRs skin DOES look a little more moisturized... She must not have wanted the hose again.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 13, 2013 05:01 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Deanna at May 13, 2013 08:55 AM (c2Y3j)"
Bush appointee my ass, the president has the choice to replace or keep this person, this is the Obama administration per fucking iod.
Good grief.
Posted by: BlearyTruth at May 13, 2013 05:02 AM (sYLzD)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 13, 2013 05:02 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: RWC at May 13, 2013 05:02 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2013 05:04 AM (CMlD4)
I had actually started to worry a bit. But if you repeat that, I'll deny it.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 08:55 AM (GEICT)
Some of us thought you were dead... or acosted... or something.
Welcome back.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 13, 2013 08:58 AM (fwARV)
Gomen!
I do apologize for going silent. My sister's computer is a tottering old thing that takes FOR. EV. ER. to open a browser window, let alone load an actual SITE. Just loading Drudge takes something ridiculous, like fifteen minutes. I'd never have been able to keep up with the pace of comments here at the HQ. By the time a comment of mine had posted three new threads would have gone up!
And it was actually quite nice to take a break from the idiots in DC and in the MFM for a week. It gave me the opportunity to focus on other things, like the idiot PA and CT drivers who can't keep their damn cars from colliding with each other and/or stationary objects, even in perfect weather conditions.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorirst) Party Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at May 13, 2013 05:04 AM (4df7R)
General Sir Charles James Napier
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 05:04 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 05:04 AM (GEICT)
245 Its ridiculous on its face that this doesn't come the whole way down from the very top. After all the SCOMF is a community organizer. This was probably the FIRST practice that was ordered upon taking office.
We are going to find out that Synagogues and Churches were targeted, too, plus Christian Schools, Homeschools, Christian Charities, etc.
Posted by: Liberty Lover at May 13, 2013 05:05 AM (2DgBs)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 13, 2013 05:05 AM (8Hnjw)
That was a few years back. But yeah, that was St. Mary's.
::: preen :::
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 05:06 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 09:04 AM (O6Tmi)
Every day, someone here puts some knowledge on me.
Thanks.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 13, 2013 05:06 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 13, 2013 05:07 AM (8sCoq)
If the shoe was on the other foot. Say for example a government agency installed a gaydar station in San Francisco to measure the amount the gheyness in the air. Do you doubt that an angry mob would gather to tear down the station?
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at May 13, 2013 05:07 AM (epxV4)
Miss Marple -
Wake me up when someone in Vatican City excommunicates a pro-abortion descendant of Joseph Kennedy Sr [which, AFAIK, would be all of the descendants of the old man].
I'll be expecting to hear from you no earlier than about 3792 AD.
If then.
TTYL.
Posted by: Huma Abedin at May 13, 2013 05:07 AM (dScAL)
Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2013 05:08 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 05:08 AM (GEICT)
McCain's problem is that he has never forgotten that. He loves this country so much that he is incapable of seeing those who hate it for what they are. It is simply inconceivable to him that anyone could hate the country and all that it stands for. Once you realize that about him - everything he says and does falls into place. He thinks everyone in government loves this country as much as he does. He truly believes that we had and have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency.
McCain is not a squish or a RINO - he is a fool in the classic sense of the word.
Posted by: An Observation at May 13, 2013 05:08 AM (ylhEn)
Ah yes...inclusive.
A word guaranteed to piss me off.
There is a prayer called the "Alenu," in Judaism. There are several versions, but the original says that we Jews are special. The "inclusive" reform movement began to edit out that part because "Oh my! The gentiles might think we feel superior!"
Whenever I am in a different synagogue, I check which version they have, and adjust my anger level accordingly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 05:09 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2013 05:09 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Icedog at May 13, 2013 05:10 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 05:10 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: RWC at May 13, 2013 09:02 AM (fWAjv)
I hear the reason NBC cancelled "Rock Center" isn't because Brian Williams is a pompous ass with no charisma and the intellectual capacity of a walnut, but because they kept getting swamped with complaints about the smell of horseshit wafting from the soundstage.
True story.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorirst) Party Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at May 13, 2013 05:10 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 13, 2013 05:11 AM (U2UQk)
I have a similar proxy for what you're talking about.
If I notice that there is never a Mass offered in Latin at that Church, I find another Church.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 05:11 AM (sbV1u)
Speaking as a gentile, I bet as many of us are able the comprehend a Hebrew prayer as those who could get YouTube in post-civil war Benghazi
Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2013 05:11 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 13, 2013 05:12 AM (8D0/R)
Posted by: Liberty Lover at May 13, 2013 05:12 AM (2DgBs)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 13, 2013 05:12 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 05:13 AM (GEICT)
As Bannion has said, the diocese under which the Kennedy family lives (and there are several) are responsible for the situation. Do YOU know if Kennedy even goes to mass? Of course not. So you do not know if he has been attending mass or receiving communion. Do you know what parish he is in? No.
Why don't you stop this attack? It's not like it's accomplishing anything, and I am pretty sure you don't want me to start in on the faults of my Protestant former pastors or public scandals about Protestants.
Thank you.
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 05:13 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2013 05:13 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: YouTube Video Guy - Behind bars [/i] at May 13, 2013 05:13 AM (U2UQk)
The guy was a stud, and may have the single best one-liner in the history of the world.
He attacked and captured Sindh, a province in Pakistan. He sent a cable to London to announce his victory. It was a single word..."Peccavi."
It means, "I have sinned," in Latin.
[It's probably not true, but I will always prefer to believe the story, because it's just perfect.]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 05:13 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 13, 2013 05:14 AM (zfs2X)
Yeah, that's HUGE with me too.
I'll be out in California for 2 weeks and I am goig to have to find a way to keep my blood pressure down at the Church my in-laws go to.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 05:14 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 05:15 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 13, 2013 05:15 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Jean at May 13, 2013 05:16 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 13, 2013 05:16 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 09:04 AM (GEICT)
Tough words from a blue-painted, cave dwelling savage who can't handle his liquor.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 05:16 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 05:16 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: Tami at May 13, 2013 09:12 AM (X6akg)
Gee, who could've seen that coming? Why, it's almost like Libya is an AQ infested rathole that should have been bombed into glass on September 12, 2012.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorirst) Party Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at May 13, 2013 05:16 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Waldo at May 13, 2013 05:17 AM (sXWmd)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 09:13 AM (O6Tmi)
Best one-liner? I have always held another in that slot.
Philip of Macedon decided he was going to invade and conquer Sparta during the Third Sacred War. He sent a messenger to the Spartans warning them:
"You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army on your land, I will destroy your farms, kill your people and raze your city."
The Spartans replied: "If."
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 13, 2013 05:17 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 13, 2013 05:17 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 05:18 AM (GEICT)
I never heard that one.
Excellent.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 05:19 AM (O6Tmi)
The Dems will come up with someone else that will be the real nominee.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 13, 2013 05:19 AM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 13, 2013 09:18 AM (BBWjt)
If it had been the Baptists they would have thrown liquor bottles at it.
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 05:19 AM (53z96)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 13, 2013 05:19 AM (XYSwB)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 13, 2013 05:19 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: USA at May 13, 2013 05:20 AM (VIaw0)
Posted by: Icedog at May 13, 2013 05:21 AM (9ScGj)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 09:13 AM (GEICT)
A fleet of tanker trucks filled to the brim with Febreze couldn't get rid of the stench of 30 Rock. It will linger for decades, until future generations associate "stench of rotten punchlines and leftwing mouth farts" with "NBC Studios," the same way the medley of mothballs and urine is associated with crazy cat ladies.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorirst) Party Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at May 13, 2013 05:21 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 13, 2013 05:21 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at May 13, 2013 05:21 AM (QR2k5)
True that. Except on Christmas. I knew I was in trouble the first time I ever went there when I saw the 62" wide screens on either side of the transcept.
I thought to myself, "Oh, this is a small Church so they must cover everything and this room doubles as a parish hall."
Then the mass started and the screen lit up with the lyrics to the hymns - complete with bouncing ball. You know, because that's really "reverent."
I thought I was in a Protestant church
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 05:21 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 13, 2013 09:19 AM (XYSwB)
Why it's almost as if this administration is rabidly anti-American and is using its power to destroy all political opposition.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 13, 2013 05:21 AM (1Jaio)
We do produce a lot of priests from our parish, and have 1 being ordained next month and 10 in seminary. Monsignor also brought a group of Franciscan sisters from India to live in the old convent building, to establish a visible presence of religious within the parish. They have been a very good contribution and we do have more girls starting to consider a religious life.
Our priest attended seminary in Rome and actually knew Cardinal Ratzinger. He's not a liberal priest at all, but the altar girls sort of got handed down to him and it's a tricky thing to get rid of them, since many are from the most devout and active families within the parish.
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 05:22 AM (GoIUi)
You say this like these are bad things.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 05:23 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2013 05:23 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 09:15 AM (53z96)
I'd tell you it isn't the eggs and bacon but I don't feel like banging my head against the wall today.
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 13, 2013 05:23 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 08:52 AM (GEICT)
On the other side of things, the church has to be concerned that going out and doing the open "Excommunication!" thing is going to have a boomerang effect.
Look, the church is not well loved by the secular left, so painting a target on it's back in order to do something that doesn't really help anyway accomplishes...what?
Silly Joe will still go up to mass, he'll still present for communion and all you've done is put your parish priest into a media firestorm he didn't want to be in. (Unless Smoking Joe only goes to the bishop's parish I guess.)
And frankly, (no offense to Bannion here whose got more cannon law chops, looking at this from an entirely different perspective) we've got bigger subtler problems that excommunicating Shotgun Joe won't fix.
We've got to squelch other organizations that actually have a semblance of influence over people who are drifting (to put it mildly) away. I was at my usual meeting of a certain group that may have gone out over the edge in supporting Obama Care and is still unconcerned about the birth control thing. The Bishop that came said "Listen, y'all may not care, but I've got to deal with parents who think it's a good idea to give their teenagers birth control!" And rather than take the story as what it was (a caution against the sliding standards of the new morality of secularism) some dipshit actually stood up and told the bishop he "didn't understand" and those poor girls probably "were going on birth control to help them perform better in school."
So yeah.
Sheriff Joe? Tiny problem.
Posted by: tsrblke at May 13, 2013 05:23 AM (GaqMa)
I thought I was in a Protestant church
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 13, 2013 09:21 AM (sbV1u)
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Hey now.
Bouncing balls are so 90's.
Posted by: mama winger at May 13, 2013 05:24 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: An Observation at May 13, 2013 05:25 AM (ylhEn)
CharlieBrown:
http://tinyurl.com/8yrrtux
For your edification.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 13, 2013 05:25 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Waldo at May 13, 2013 05:25 AM (sXWmd)
Posted by: USA at May 13, 2013 05:25 AM (VIaw0)
Seriously?
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 05:26 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: An Observation at May 13, 2013 09:25 AM (ylhEn)
But when premiums are skyrocketing it will all the Republicans fault. Just because it always is
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 13, 2013 05:26 AM (1Jaio)
Well, this was a "Catholic" Church in California.
Make of that what you will.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 05:27 AM (sbV1u)
General Sir Charles James Napier
I may be wrong, but I always thought the Napier quote was in regards to the Indian tradition of sati, in which a widow is burned to death on her husband's funeral pyre.
"This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs."
It's such an awesome quote, though, that I could very easily be mistaken. It's genesis may have been misattributed at some point in the last, what? Nearly 200 years? Talk about playing Telephone!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorirst) Party Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at May 13, 2013 05:27 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 13, 2013 05:27 AM (8sCoq)
Fox: Car bomb explodes near a hospital in Benghazi.
*Sigh* Won't these right-wing Tea Partiers ever stop protesting Obamacare.
Posted by: Default Talking Points at May 13, 2013 05:27 AM (BrQrN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 05:27 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2013 09:23 AM (GVxQo)
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I've got you beat. Our church doesn't even have a church.
Posted by: mama winger at May 13, 2013 05:28 AM (P6QsQ)
But the two kids were home alone because their parents....went to a little league baseball game? WTF goes to a little league baseball game WITHOUT THEIR OWN KIDS?! Does anyone else find that just a tad odd?
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 13, 2013 05:29 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2013 05:29 AM (GVxQo)
When I was in RCIA I asked about it and not only is it not in the rubrics, it is actually against them. Not only that, but when it ends everyone, still holding hands, raises them up in the air like a football touchdown or something.
I am that woman standing sort of away from everyone in a middle pew which her hands folded, studiously ignoring hand-grabbers.
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 05:30 AM (GoIUi)
There's a way to fix that you know.
One step at a time.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 05:30 AM (sbV1u)
Oh, you are 100% correct. I was talking about another one that he has been credited with.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 13, 2013 05:30 AM (O6Tmi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at May 13, 2013 05:31 AM (GEICT)
Posted by: Bill Clinton [/i] at May 13, 2013 05:31 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 13, 2013 09:27 AM (8sCoq)
BWAHAHAHA!
*ROLLING ON GROUND, LAUGHING!!*
*wiping streaming eyes* Whewwww! *SNORT* Sorry, sorry. I just... LOL! That's the funniest thing I've read in at least a week! Thanks, JiC!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorirst) Party Hobbit [/s][/i][/b][/u] at May 13, 2013 05:31 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: cornelius, waiting for the Cobalt bomb at May 13, 2013 05:31 AM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 09:30 AM (GoIUi)
Touchy feely Catholicism! Meh.
I know it used to be the "kiss of peace" but let's be clear, that was an epoch ago in a different time.
I don't want to kiss you, nor hug you, GET OUT OF MY FACE.
Sorry Flashbacks to College
(I actually stopped going to the college student mass in college, College Church was a functioning parish so I just went to the Sunday Morning mass, I hate touchy feely Catholicism.)
Posted by: tsrblke at May 13, 2013 05:32 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 13, 2013 05:33 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Jones in CO at May 13, 2013 05:33 AM (8sCoq)
You and me both. Well, except I'm not a woman.
In fact, while the orans position for the congregation during the Lord's Prayer is also NOT in the GIRM, there is some serious question of it's canonical status.
Check this out. http://tinyurl.com/d58kcw5
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 05:33 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 13, 2013 09:29 AM (GVxQo)
with all these stories I read I'm so very thankful for the church I attend. It's very traditional and Mass is still the pre-Vatican 2 Tridentine Mass.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 13, 2013 05:34 AM (1Jaio)
One step at a time.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 13, 2013 09:30 AM (sbV1u)
Wait did I stumble into one of those "let's roll back VII!" things?
Because...erg...I may be crazy, but I'm not THAT crazy. I happen to be OK with a few of the changes.
Posted by: tsrblke at May 13, 2013 05:35 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: VP Joe Biden at May 13, 2013 05:35 AM (Zv1QB)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 13, 2013 05:36 AM (+z5LA)
No. Not at all.
But do you know the point of the paten?
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 05:36 AM (sbV1u)
Oh but lifeteen.
Lifeteen MUST BE DESTROYED.
I hate that shit with every fiber of my being. It's ass backwards anyway. Most of my friends who were involved in it ended up bolting from the church. (So clearly it's not working) and those that didn't are still attached to it even in their 30s.
Posted by: tsrblke at May 13, 2013 05:38 AM (GaqMa)
What I am against are the things done in the "spirit" of Vatican Ii which had nothing to do with it and which contributed to vast numbers of people being confused about the Faith.
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 05:38 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Jack at May 13, 2013 05:38 AM (Zv1QB)
Posted by: DangerGirl @deadlyestrogen at May 13, 2013 05:39 AM (GwLJQ)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 13, 2013 05:40 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 13, 2013 05:41 AM (+z5LA)
What I am against are the things done in the "spirit" of Vatican Ii which had nothing to do with it and which contributed to vast numbers of people being confused about the Faith.
Posted by: Miss Marple at May 13, 2013 09:38 AM (GoIUi)
Vatican II opened the door for all of the Church lefties to run wild. Funny how let's update the Church crowd is updating it right out of existence
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 13, 2013 05:42 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: comatus at May 13, 2013 05:43 AM (JNUY4)
But do you know the point of the paten?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 13, 2013 09:36 AM (sbV1u)
If you're talking about the one used during the distribution of communion if memory serves it's to prevents the crumbs of the body from falling upon the ground (sacrilege!)
Of course we've made great strides in really really stiff hosts in recent years. (OK that's snark, but I personally don't really like someone getting that close to my personal space.)
I'm personally not actually opposed to the whole handing the body to the recipient. It does seem to me that (especially in light of the reassertion of the importance of the laity after VII) that the faithful should be able to hold their savior in their hands before taking to their mouth. This I think is a good thing.
Posted by: tsrblke at May 13, 2013 05:43 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 13, 2013 05:44 AM (+z5LA)
Posted by: USA at May 13, 2013 05:44 AM (VIaw0)
Posted by: Waldo at May 13, 2013 05:44 AM (sXWmd)
Posted by: RWC at May 13, 2013 05:45 AM (fWAjv)
I don't. Your mileage obviously varies.
There was a theological point to the reception on the tongue that is now missing when you hand it to someone.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 05:45 AM (sbV1u)
That's funny because Catholics don't recognize the divinity of Mary either.
Second look at the Reformation?
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 13, 2013 05:46 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 13, 2013 09:45 AM (sbV1u)
Fair point.
But there were theological points when the alter faced forward that are gone now too. There are tradeoffs across the board, weight them and make the proper decisions as needed.
But lines do need to be drawn. Just because the alter has been turned around doesn't mean people get to circle around it during mass, sorry Lifeteen nuts, that's just wrong. (And creepy.)
(Yes, a thousand burning suns. That's how much I don't like it.)
Posted by: tsrblke at May 13, 2013 05:48 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 13, 2013 05:49 AM (KJXYt)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at May 13, 2013 05:53 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: RWC at May 13, 2013 05:53 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Regular Moron at May 13, 2013 09:53 AM (U2UQk)
Prezzy Wonderful, isn't it true that the mean Republicans just want to ruin the glorious peoples' revolution that you are creating?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 13, 2013 05:57 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 13, 2013 07:43 AM (DUsgr)
Absolutely right. This is part of a full-out assault on the Bill of Rights.
Posted by: mrp at May 13, 2013 07:00 AM (HjPtV)
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Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 03:33 AM (53z96)