1 This post is as slanted as CNN.

2
Pravda white.

3 CNN. They're a network, right?  I thought they were pastry chefs. Or something.

4 Ah! Much less leany now.

5

"Senator Joe Manchine, from West Virginia" - which will still show up as a "battleground" or "leaning" or "possible" state for the GOP in future AoS cob analysis.

Sure.

6 I had this discussion with my husband this morning.  Who is more trustworthy?  The person who openly acknowledges their bias or the person who says I'm unbiased and what I give you is the truth?  The hatred of Fox by those on the left is laughable.  Fox will tell you the line-up leans right.  CNN will tell you they give you the truth. 

7 WTF? Someone has hacked the ewoks account. Posting by the real ace at 9:00AM Never heard of it.

8 Only party members should have access to guns. You dirty jew!

9

The government's gun control program worked so well for Fast & Furious.  I mean, really. What could go wrong? 

10 If the opposite argument of the gun grabbers happened, and a "news" network proclaimed unabashed support to "focus" on the other side of the issue, to point out the inconsistencies, the politics of , .. oh, nevermind..  would never happen

11 Where is James Lee when you need him?

http://tinyurl.com/2dd8rg7

12 "Journalists" now have no idea that impartial critical thinking and investigating serve a valuable purpose. To them a "free press" is one that simply "does what it wants."

13 But, but, they hired Jake Tapper!

14

This bill is a strategic victory for Republicans!

Sen Toomey is now viewed as "mainstream" in a Obama state!

and, and, and, he will get favorable media coverage in his re-election campaign and the suburban Philly and Pittsburgh soccer moms will remember this 3 and a half years from now and vote for him!

So shut up!!

15
But but wait... he campaigned firing a gun on camera! 

Right West Virginia?

16 Ugh...

http://tinyurl.com/ch9xap6

17 CNN and the MSM have truly, laughably, become a bad parody of the old Soviet Pravda... and EVEN if they are aware of it... they are clearly ok with it.

18

When Ted Cruz and Diane Feinstein mixed it up over her hypocrisy on First and Second Amendment rights, Blitzer played only Cruz's setup, with his Civics lesson lecture to Feinstein. They cut the part where he asks her whether she'd support abridgement of First Amendment rights as she supports limiting rights under the Second.

 

Nobody watching could come away with any other impression but that he was lecturing her in a condescending way. And his very good point was simply cut. Feinstein got maybe a minute of her response in, Cruz one sentence. CNN is disgusting.

19 The most busted name in news. I guess we should applaud their honesty? clap

20 Wait, someone was actually watching CNN?

21 Barrel.  Ewok.  Some assembly required.

22 The government's gun control program worked so well for Fast Furious. I mean, really. What could go wrong? Instapundit is reporting 20,000 M16's stolen from a Kuwati warehouse. http://tinyurl.com/c7fkh8w

23 Ugh...

http://tinyurl.com/ch9xap6


WTF is the bottom two?!?!  Fishing?  Really???

24 16 Ugh... http://tinyurl.com/ch9xap6 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 11, 2013 10:03 AM (vV4jT) So I see tentacles are not forbidden. YAY!

25 >>> Posting by the real ace at 9:00AM Never heard of it. I once again could not sleep on tuesday night. I was up for 24+ hours by Wednesday, which is why I barely posted (and why my writing verged on gibberish). I sacked out last night at 5:30pm and woke up today at 5:45 am. Thus the early post.

26

And that statement from Chris Cox about the NRA scoring the vote on S. 649 and whatever amendments are offered is just a very clever dog whistle to signal the smart people that the NRA is actually in favor of this most excellent bill that is a victory for conservatives and freedom loving people anywhere, and if you disagree you're nothing more than an inbred troglodyte.

 

Or something.

27 17 CNN and the MSM have truly, laughably, become a bad parody of the old Soviet Pravda... and EVEN if they are aware of it... they are clearly ok with it. Posted by: Yip at April 11, 2013 10:03 AM (/jHWN) Baghdad Bob is more objective than them. Seriously.

28 EC, our betters in Congress do all the ones with the red X apparently.  And boy are they trying to have unlawful congress with the taxpayers.

RWC be careful what you celebrate.

29 Mmmmm It's 1984 everyday in the USA. Playing straight into my hands...Muhahahahaha

30

C*cksucker News Network.

31

Well, if this whole push to weaken our 2nd Amendment rights   doesn't tell us that Something Is  Rotten in DC, I don't know what does.

 

I sincerely hope Ted Cruz is correct in his assessment that this will hand over control of the Senate in 2014 to   the   Pubbies .  This should be after the Usual  Gang of  Squishy RINO   Idiots   is replaced, that is.

 

Why is it that we average Americans in flyover country can clearly understand the meaning of the Constitution and  recognize its  importance, and our elected officials cannot?  Why are we tolerating this?

32

My working theory is that ace is busy blowing lines off a hooker's ass.

33 EC, our betters in Congress do all the ones with the red X apparently. And boy are they trying to have unlawful congress with the taxpayers.


Bottom right must be a new yoga move or something.

34 @22 Only 20,000 M-16s? Could be worse. There could be a gun show.

35

Posted by: Augustus Caesar at April 11, 2013 10:08 AM (A71EA)

 

I have come not to praise Caesar but to bury him.

36 I have called Sen. Cornyn 3 days in a row, and told the staff that the demos and rinos can be trusted to stab America in the back. They assured me each time the 'protection of the 2nd Amendment' act would not pass. Made me laugh. I didn't call Sen. Cruz as I consider him to be honest and a friend. All you moron folks realize that it ain't gun control, but really people control. This is the moment the left believes they can get away with their evil intentions. They will do anything. Anything.

37

I once again could not sleep on tuesday night. I was up for 24+ hours by Wednesday, which is why I barely posted (and why my writing verged on gibberish).

 

That's not good, ace!     How're you feeling   today?

38 My working theory is that ace is busy blowing lines off a hooker's ass.

Then we'd be seeing posts at all hours of the day.

39 Durbin just said they're making progress with the gun violence in Chicago. Give it time Dick. Once it gets warmer the yoots will be doing what yoots do.

40 http://www.youtube .com/watch?v=Pe5lFPoyPXY&list= UUC3L8QaxqEGUiBC252GHy3w&index=1 Anarchist dude talking about the housing recession and what he thinks the causes are. 1)Fed 2)Fed 3)Fannie/Freddie

41 Ace, take another vacation.  Before you keel over in a strange garbage can and next found in a landfill in New Jersey.

42 Give it time Dick. Once it gets warmer the yoots will be doing what yoots do.

Posted by: RWC at April 11, 2013 10:11 AM (fWAjv)

 

It would appear that as soon as the thermostat twitches up past 50 degrees    the yoots go insane.      Even in NH 50F isn't considered "hot."   Guess that doesn't matter in places like Chi-Town and Philly, though.

43 The left is making such a mockery of the people. Everywhere you look, they are mocking us. And, what's sick is, the left doesn't even know they are a part of the mocked masses.

44 You know, if we're going to have openly partisan press, as opposed to a hidden partisan press, can we also have Page Three girls?

45 unexpected is the new unexpected!

46 I so want to see Durbin the Turban in the Cabrini Green area of Chicago about three hours after they got their dole checks say that kind of gibberish.

47 24 So I see tentacles are not forbidden. YAY! ------- Spent some time working at a DEC facility in Palo Alto. One of my cow-orkers was a Finn. A nearby food court that we frequented had a large sign with "no smoking" messages in about a hundred languages. He decided that, since there was no Finnish message, he was allowed to smoke.

48 Durbin just said they're making progress with the gun violence in Chicago. Haha, what is he basing that statement on? There were less murders today than yesterday? That's right up there with "the economy is recovering" and "Obama saved the auto industry."

49 I once again could not sleep on tuesday night. I was up for 24+ hours by Wednesday, which is why I barely posted (and why my writing verged on gibberish). I sacked out last night at 5:30pm and woke up today at 5:45 am. Thus the early post. Posted by: ace at April 11, 2013 10:06 AM (LCRYB) Exercising (hard enough) during the day will inevitably make you crash due to fatigue. For me, weight training really tires you by the end of the day. I know you said you exercise, but I wonder if it's just cardio.

50 He decided that, since there was no Finnish message, he was allowed to smoke.

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at April 11, 2013 10:14 AM (U82Km)

 

What do you expect from a filthy Scandi? 

 

51 Nothing like jet lagging yourself with insomnia. Drink too much. 4 out of 5 morons agree, drinking too much is an effective remedy for occasional bouts of lucidity or insomnia.

52 Here in Chicago, the media and Rahm Emmanuel were trying to push that murders were down in February after Moochelle Obama's visit for the funeral of that murdered girl.  Turned out it was just the crappy weather.  Once it got a little warmer, the bullets were a'flyin again!

53 Haha, what is he basing that statement on? There were less murders today than yesterday? That's right up there with "the economy is recovering" and "Obama saved the auto industry."

Posted by: Mainah at April 11, 2013 10:15 AM (659DL)

 

I'm    guessing this was Durbin's thought process:

 

"People are killing each other at such a rate in Chicago that pretty soon everyone who would kill anyone will be killed!   YAY, progress!"

54

Pat Toomey has no balls.  In fact, there are only a few Senators who actually have them.  There might be only 15 balls across the entire GOP Senate members.

 

55 Any morons from Missouri? http://tinyurl.com/cblsmpo There’s an investigation unfolding in Missouri after it was revealed that the Missouri State Highway Patrol handed over concealed carry data to federal authorities. On at least two occasions – the latest of which was January — weapons data was delivered to the feds, according to an article published in the Columbia Daily Tribune. In looking into the matter, officials noted that in Nov. 2011 and this past January, the patrol asked for the entire list of 185,000 concealed carry residents from the state’s Division of Motor Vehicle and Driver Licensing. Then, this information was apparently shared beyond the state’s boundaries.

56 Our national serious switch:  Superglued in the off position, reinforced with a nail, with Kim Kardashian sitting on it.

57
Undocument your illegal immigrants, but document the hell out of your legal firearms.

58

Durbin just said they're making progress with the gun violence in Chicago.
Haha, what is he basing that statement on?

Posted by: Mainah at April 11, 2013 10:15 AM (659DL)

 

 

Fewer targets on the streets everyday.

59 My working theory is that ace is busy blowing lines off a hooker's ass.

Then we'd be seeing posts at all hours of the day.

Posted by: EC at April 11, 2013 10:11 AM (GQ8sn)

I mean, for Ace, this morning IS all hours of the day.

60 Never heard of it.

I once again could not sleep on tuesday night. I was up for 24+ hours by Wednesday, which is why I barely posted (and why my writing verged on gibberish).

I sacked out last night at 5:30pm and woke up today at 5:45 am. Thus the early post.

Posted by: ace at April 11, 2013 10:06 AM (LCRYB)

Ambien man, it is your friend. Take one of those and in 30 minutes, night night. Take em for a bit to help get your sleep schedule straightened out and then stop taking them.

61 Hey.. I never watch CNN anyways.. but is it ok to still watch Headline News in the morning with Robin Meade.. I keep the sound off.. is that OK?

62 Spent some time working at a DEC facility in Palo Alto. One of my cow-orkers was a Finn. A nearby food court that we frequented had a large sign with "no smoking" messages in about a hundred languages. He decided that, since there was no Finnish message, he was allowed to smoke. Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at April 11, 2013 10:14 AM (U82Km)
I have to admit, that's kind of totally awesome.

63 Communist News Network is a network for communists.

64 Should we be drawing lines between this and all those people "cutting the cord" when it comes to television Service? Or is that too much of a logical leap?

65 Let this be Exhibit #6,529 in the case against these hacks having anything to do with debates. Hell, if it wasn't necessary to politicking, I'd say freeze them out entirely. Doesn't make much sense for R-candidates to be travelling around with and giving access to outspoken agents of their opponents.

66 O/T Over on Drudge, there is a report that DHS was going to purchase bagpipes.  You know they are really taking sequester seriously.  Before the cuts, they were just going to buy Scotland. 

67 Since I haven't kept up with this as I usually do, where   are  the Senators  who are getting airtime to defend the Constitution, who are saying "NO" to this destruction of our rights?

68 Durbin just said they're making progress with the gun violence in Chicago. Haha, what is he basing that statement on? Posted by: Mainah at April 11, 2013 10:15 AM (659DL)
They're getting to be better shots?

69
44 You know, if we're going to have openly partisan press, as opposed to a hidden partisan press, can we also have Page Three girls?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 11, 2013 10:14 AM (VtjlW)

Ideas such as this are why you are Queen.

70 Im getting sick of Missouri, and it started with a vacation to Branson several years ago.

71

Interestingly, the idea that "journalism" or "reporting" has been long gone from the academy. Today's writing classes (even in High School) are now filled with how to's of "advocacy" and "making oneself heard" (actual assignments/chapters in my youngest niece's Eng. Class here in Fairfax County, VA).

Only the most foolish cling to the belief that "news" and "truth" are somehow linked...

72

We seriously need to split this country in two.  We are no longer a country of different political persuasions kept together by our common respect for the Constitution and love of country. 

 

One side is constantly trying to minimize and or change the Constitution while also blaming their own Country for the ills of the world.

 

It is irreconcilable. 

73 He decided that, since there was no Finnish message, he was allowed to smoke. Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at April 11, 2013 10:14 AM (U82Km) What an idiot. The Finn's have notoriously high heart disease, too. He will die young.

74 Isn't this an "In Like Kind" contribution?

75 1 hour 4 nice conversations 3 messages left on VM 2 tickets sold Grrr

76 Our national serious switch: Superglued in the off position, reinforced with a nail, with Kim Kardashian sitting on it.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 11, 2013 10:17 AM (ltdV/)

I thought they added a 1lb weight for every dollar of debt...

Your idea works too though.

77

Send your pro-gun message to Sen. Mike Lee.  He will read them at this morning's gun debate.  He appreciates your support and says it's vital to show other senators the level of intensity out there.

 

http://1.usa.gov/10OfBBe

78 But hey, that's $100 I didn't have an hour ago

79 Haha, what is he basing that statement on? There were less murders today than yesterday? That's right up there with "the economy is recovering" and "Obama saved the auto industry." Posted by: Mainah at April 11, 2013 10:15 AM (659DL) I think it just sounded good to him. I love that we are legislating purely on emotion. Some shit (Murphy-CT) has a poster with a bunch of little people on it - each representing a victim of gun violence. No logic during this debate, just pulling on heart strings.

80 They tore down Cabrini Green a few years ago.. it's been "gentrified"!

You now have to travel a little further west to take your life in your hands.

81 You know, if we're going to have openly partisan press, as opposed to a
hidden partisan press, can we also have Page Three girls?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 11, 2013 10:14 AM (VtjlW)

Hearing no opposition, the motion is carried.

82 They're getting to be better shots?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 11, 2013 10:18 AM (VtjlW)

 

Maybe enough of them have    learned to read   --  against all odds  --    and have read on the internet how fucking stupid it is to   h old your gun sideways, gangsta style, when shooting at someone?  

83 I wonder what Pat Toomey is going to do after politics?

Pennsylvania is not as purple as people think.

Nobody is going to forget his treachery.

84 CNN is the most watched and trusted network. In hell.  In fact it's the only station available there.

85 By the way, mike Sullivan has the NRA endorsement

86 We seriously need to split this country in two. Nah. Something small could spark a revolution - of mind. Even a policy of destroying the public unions would make a huge difference. We just need the right leaders.

87 Mike Lee up.

88 @70  Happiness is Missouri in the rear view mirror.

89 Federal authoritarians and their "gun control" mania must first confine their own impulsive, initiative and "eternal" wars of aggression for global-corporatist profit at the COMPLETE expense of humanity destroyed, taking down the salt of the earth first, the working "middle class". At this point, vacate D.C., politicians. Just go home and let your fellow Americans be with Liberty and Justice for All, equal under the Rule of Law. "Consumption?" By parasites and Ponzi pirates. Politicians with sticky fingers and deep pocket shared with lobbying Globalist Corporative Boards that dictate policy to governments monopolize whatever "consumption" of goods and services, afforded by taxpayers who reap no benefits despite pledges and promises to repeal, to not fund, and despite titles of comprehensive legislative reforms, all things now revisionist. Obama's mandate: "Suck It Up," suckers. GWB took "it" to "them" so "it" wouldn't happen here. How's that authoritarianism working out for American taxpayers? Winning the hearts and minds of the enemy? We are deemed to be the enemy as defined by the DHS that's now targeting for prosecution/disappearance such law abiding conservative Americans and veterans who are loyal to our US Constitution and Bill of Rights, and to our Country itself. So we're all just seen to be piss ants, running around in a fury because Uncle Sam's game perpetually knocks down our ant hill called home.

90 They totally miss the irony.  How Ironic.  (Or moronic)

91 We just need the right leaders. Amen. And the right leaders will only be picked and supported by the right national committee.

92 My working theory is that ace is busy blowing lines off a hooker's ass. Then we'd be seeing posts at all hours of the day. The Stompening will commence shortly. Just another bump or two.

93

83 I wonder what Pat Toomey is going to do after politics?

-----------------------

He's the heir-apparent to Arlen Specter.  In more ways than one.

94 This Manchin/Toomey clusterfuck is sounding like what is already in place in Pennsylvania. You buy a handgun from a private individual and go to a dealer for a NICS check (run by the state police in Pa). You pay a fee, usually about $30 as there was latitude given the dealers as to what they can charge. You have to fill out a 4473 Fed form and one from the state cops which is forwarded to them. Now, this state form contains the serial number, make and model of the handgun, yet there is "no firearms registration" in Pa. Now, multiply this to include all firearms, and "decorate the tree" with other bullshit we will not know about until passed, and we have once again been screwed.

95 Cabrini Green gentrified?  So how many firefights were there to evict the people so Bill Ayers buddies could live there?

96 Ok back to the phones, dialin' for dollars

97 I wonder what Pat Toomey is going to do after politics? Toilet scrubber at a PA rest stop for all I care.

98 We just need the right leaders. Posted by: artisanal 'ette   THIS!  But too, I think we're quickly passing a point where the right leader can fix this divide.  Clearly far too many in the country have no awe of our founding nor our history.  I cannot see how the gap between libtards and the normal folk who want to be left alone can be bridged.

99 Happiness is Missouri in the rear view mirror. With your genitals hanging out the window.

100 This has to be the only industry in which the market leader has had 50% market share (for, what, 5 years?) and the competitors don't seek to emulate it.

101 o/t so glad I got my Pearl Harbor tour in. petty children in the WH and this administration. see breitbart.com

102 @56 So Kim's mighty preggers boobahs should not be a major news story? The terrorists have won.

103 Nah. Something small could spark a revolution - of mind.

Even a policy of destroying the public unions would make a huge difference.

We just need the right leaders.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 11, 2013 10:21 AM (XYSwB)

 

I would like to agree with you and held that position strongly until recently.  Unfortunately we have crossed the Rubicon after  the  reelection  of  Obama and  the  disassembly  of  our  voting  laws  and  requirements.  

104 Hearing no opposition, the motion is carried.


Seconded.


The Canadian Sun newspapers also have Page 3 girls, but sadly they are not topless. 

105 "Ace, take another vacation. Before you keel over in a strange garbage can and next found in a landfill in New Jersey."

You commenters, keep it down!  I'm trying to sleep here.

106 Arrrrgggh. Apparently sending someone three different emails saying please do not send me the documents, send them to this other person and providing the email for the other person is insufficient to get across the point to *stop sending the documents to me*. Also, saying no I cannot provide that information to you because I do not have access to that information means, obviously, that I can send that information right now. brb shoveling snickers into maw

107 I wonder what Pat Toomey is going to do after politics?


Toilet scrubber at a PA rest stop for all I care.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2013 10:24 AM (GFM2b)

It looks like he has very bright future as a mall cop.

108 Posted by: artisanal 'etteatApril11, 2013 10:21 AM(XYSwB) Been listening to The Federalist Papers lately. The writers' answer to government over-reach? An armed and non-compliant citizenry engaging in popular insurrection. That, and a (sadly mistaken) belief that the heirs of liberty would never be so stupid or lazy as to let it get this far.

109 95 Cabrini Green gentrified?

A half dozen of those MOAB's would have been a significant upgrade.

110 It took many years of legal bullshit just to be able to tear them down.. there are no end of well-funded groups (funny how poor people living in public housing can get so well funded, ain't it?) who put barriers in front of the demolitions.

Now, it's mixed housing.. but the areas closest to downtown are all luxury housing.

111
106 Arrrrgggh. Apparently sending someone three different emails saying please do not send me the documents, send them to this other person and providing the email for the other person is insufficient to get across the point to *stop sending the documents to me*. Also, saying no I cannot provide that information to you because I do not have access to that information means, obviously, that I can send that information right now.


brb shoveling snickers into maw

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 11, 2013 10:26 AM (VtjlW)

At least they remembered where they were and who they were working for.

112 I have to laugh at this.
While i knew of course that  media was playing for team D . To have it so openly  communicated  from themselves is quite strange.

Through this whole ordeal I've been telling myself, now don't  get tinfoilish , Things may be much less worrisome than they appear.  and of course there are those on our team that like to tell us so.


Now that they are going to actual written citizens rights. (not made up rights) All i can say is

fkitall, take one in the morning and two in the afternoon.

113 Alexthechick, sounds like you are having a nucpalm day.

114 85 By the way, mike Sullivan has the NRA endorsement You can NOT be Sirius!!!!

115 I think Ace can now see why us gundick strokers are so reactionary when we are attacked. We've had to endure this kind of shit for decades.

116 brb shoveling snickers into maw

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 11, 2013 10:26 AM (VtjlW)

without tea to wash it down!

hands over tea, with a little glare.

that's so bad for you!

117 At least they remembered where they were and who they were working for. Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 11, 2013 10:28 AM (da5Wo) Hmmm. Good point. On the upside, I have yet to swallow a gummed tab or get a label stuck in my hair so there's that. Of course, the day is young.

118 the areas closest to downtown are all luxury housing.

They'll be the first consumed by the locust hoards.

119 They tore down Cabrini Green a few years ago.. it's been "gentrified"! ---- Was on the loop in the 80's with a freind, and as we were going past the projects my buddy is poining and laughing at the slums, while I'm looking around the train noticing we were pretty much surrounded by its residents. I had to tell him to STFU and look around the train. I have no idea why were weren't killed.

120 Ace needs a "pyschological comfort dog." It would keep him to a normal schedule and wear him out so he falls asleep at night. The dog would also make him exercise more which would also aid his sleep. And of course, they are psychological comforting....

121 Is Cabrini Green in the district/precinct whatever that Obama served in the IL Legislature? Or was that a different slum where Rezko made millions and Obama got a sweet house before the slums were condemned and Rezko went buh-bye?

122 Ace needs a "pyschological comfort dog." It would keep him to a normal schedule and wear him out so he falls asleep at night. The dog would also make him exercise more which would also aid his sleep. And of course, they are psychological comforting....


...named Wicket.

123 >Posted by: Bill at April 11, 2013 10:23 AM (xFYVW) <

You obviously did not read the entire bill or you are deliberately choosing to ignore the rest of it.

What is in that bill, in it's entirety, is nothing like what Pennsylvania has.

Most importantly, the people in Pennsylvania know it.

This is me waiving goodbye to Toomey's political career.

124

Communist

News

Network

 

Dear CNN, when the fit hits the shan, you will not be spared.

125
While we wait for them to vote our rights away, here is some happiness.

Video of the day:

http://tinyurl.com/d6p4hf7 

126 I have a sexual comfort dog. Her name is Maryann.

127 someone wrote the list of concealed carry from Missouri  citizens was sent to the Feds illegally?

did i get that wrong?

128 Thank you, willow. *sips demure like* I am still pondering why it is that people seem to believe that making it extra super really really serious you guys illegal to use guns will stop the people currently illegally using guns from doing so in the future.

129 On the upside, I have yet to swallow a gummed tab or get a label stuck in my hair so there's that. Of course, the day is young.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 11, 2013 10:30 AM (VtjlW)

If it makes you feel better, I'm attempting to print out 4 whole pages from a pdf. I'm failing. Some pages come out so light you can barely tell it's been printed on, some pages are missing half the page. Oh, and it's taking about 2-4 minutes per page to print.

That's what we call a win right there baby.

130

Been listening to The Federalist Papers lately. The writers' answer to government over-reach? An armed and non-compliant citizenry engaging in popular insurrection. That, and a (sadly mistaken) belief that the heirs of liberty would never be so stupid or lazy as to let it get this far.

 

I doubt if the Founders took into account  how determined our enemies would become, that they could plant the seeds of division so deeply in  American soil  that our own officials would be the ones to revoke   our rights.

 

Somewhere, our enemies are smiling and laughing at our stupidity.  We   freely  elected the people responsible for our downfall.

131 Should I mention that Toomey's a lawyer? Or that Lindsay Graham and Chris Christie are also lawyers and that there's a very good reason that this is relevant? Nah, I'll let it go.

132 RE: Sleep

For the first time in 6 months I had trouble knocking off last night.  The hot weather being a major contributor.  (That's partly why I'm a big fan of winter wx.)

133 Ha.  Obama isn't stupid enough to live anywhere near Cabrini.

Obama lived in Hyde Park near the Univ of Chicago.. big old expensive home from the late 1800's and early 1900's.  It's one of the nicest neighborhoods in the city.. of course, going one half mile in any direction will get your ass capped.

134 No logic during this debate, just pulling on heart strings. Posted by: RWC at April 11, 2013 10:20 AM (fWAjv) And Murphy kept using that bogus 40% stat, too. Hey, Jackhole! Even the Washington Post said it's wrong!

135 Catch everyone later.  Don't torch the place.

Save the tar and feathers for later.  The revolution will be Tweeted.

136 By the way, it's not just Toomey's support for this Second Amendment grab (and the ridiculous name he tried to cloak it with).

It will be the after effects and the tangential effects that will attack Second Amendment rights. Democrats and this administration cant help themsleves. They will continue to go after legal gun owners.

This is a huge miscalculation by Toomey.

137 Hey Manchin you'll appreciate my 100 bucks and so will Toomey's opponent keep up the good work smoking out our traitors.

138 I doubt if the Founders took into account how determined our enemies would become, that they could plant the seeds of division so deeply in American soil that our own officials would be the ones to revoke our rights.

Somewhere, our enemies are smiling and laughing at our stupidity. We freely elected the people responsible for our downfall.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 11, 2013 10:33 AM (+z4pE)

I am all for balkanization of the US after Teh Burn happens.  Let them have their upper northwest and northeast, and CA.  We'll have the rest.

139 9 Foghorn Leghorn.

Sandy Hook is just Fast and Furious Del Norte mi amigo...

Operation Wild Elephant 2014

Hit the floor like '74

140 I refreshed the main page. Ya, nuthin.

141 did you all see how michelle made the murder of the girl in chicago ALL ABOUT HER? http://tinyurl.com/ctakk8c 'Hadiya is me... but I got to grow up': Tearful Michelle Obama compares herself to slain Chicago honor student during emotional speech on gun control

142 Ace needs a "pyschological comfort dog." It would keep him to a normal schedule and wear him out so he falls asleep at night. The dog would also make him exercise more which would also aid his sleep. Jack Russell Terrier or beagle.

143

I would like to address any and all of you morons who are absolutists on the second amendment:  Pretty much every other position you hold on any issue is secondary with me. You can marry your twin illegal immigrant ginger brother and get in vitro fertilization just to abort it at 2 years old, I don't care.  

But you pinheaded assholes who trust the government in running our lives by encroaching on our God given inalianable right to defend ourselves are setting up my enslavement and so for that you can go to hell.  

 

144 I don't understand why the news guys keep referring to the upcoming NorK launch as a "missile test". It's clear that the NorKs don't consider it a "test".

145 The News and Entertainment industry is mostly the propaganda soldiers for the left. They are pretty much all Liberal Democrats, and they are using their positions of influence to skew elections towards the socialist party.

146 I am still pondering why it is that people seem to believe that making it extra super really really serious you guys illegal to use guns will stop the people currently illegally using guns from doing so in the future.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 11, 2013 10:33 AM (VtjlW)

I might be cynical,  but i am assuming only the useful idiots  believe it will help .

However I  am in disbelief those writing the laws  are really under the assumption it would do so. But it is useful to them. and i can only think of one reason why  it is useful to them. There might be other reasons but i'm still groggy from NyQuil .

(sneeze) running nose, : {

147 If it makes you feel better, I'm attempting to print out 4 whole pages from a pdf. I'm failing. Some pages come out so light you can barely tell it's been printed on, some pages are missing half the page. Oh, and it's taking about 2-4 minutes per page to print. That's what we call a win right there baby. Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 11, 2013 10:33 AM (da5Wo) I have a sneaking suspicion it's the pdf and not you. We get some pdfs in from a vendor which will only print properly from reader XI. It's only from one person there and only certain documents. No one can figure out why. I blame demon possession.

148 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 11, 2013 10:33 AM (+z4pE) Agreed. Socialist government-as-religion wasn't really a factor yet (although the French Revolution was in the same general time frame). I think the advent of instant communication made the jobs of those devoted solely to obtaining power easier as well, and that was something entirely unforseen by the Founders.

149

Well, here's what I sent to Sen. Lee, though I doubt he got it in time.

 

------------

 

The Founders held the right to bear arms to be so important that they made it the SECOND amendment to the Constitution,   after only the right to free speech, free assembly, free exercise of religion; they held it second only, in effect, to freedom itself.   They held it more important even than due process of law or the right to a jury of one's peers.   If we're willing to infringe on the second most vital amendment to the Constitution, then what's to prevent the infringement of every amendment that follows it?

 

Had those ten amendments in the Bill of Rights not been passed the Constitution itself would not have been ratified.  That is how vital those amendments are, and how come it is only a FOOL who would intrude upon them for petty power points or political gain. 

 

As far as I'm concerned, there is no "gun control" debate.   That debate was had back in 1789, and the decision was that gun control is a bad thing, and,   "The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

 

Case closed.

150 someone wrote the list of concealed carry from Missouri citizens was sent to the Feds illegally? did i get that wrong? Nope. On Instapundit.

151 The dog would also make him exercise more which would also aid his sleep.Posted by: EC at April 11, 2013 10:31 AM (GQ8sn)
----
Dogs work on Tuesdays. Therapy lights don't. /

152 98 We just need the right leaders.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette THIS! But too, I think we're quickly passing a point where the right leader can fix this divide. Clearly far too many in the country have no awe of our founding nor our history. I cannot see how the gap between libtards and the normal folk who want to be left alone can be bridged.
Posted by: Yip at April 11, 2013 10:25 AM
=================

This stuff feeds on itself like fire. The phrase "normal folk who want to be left alone" pretty much addresses the problem. I do not believe that those (we) folks, calm and conservative by nature, can be rallied to any significant action until it is just too late. It is always possible that some charismatic conservative leader will turn up, but it better happen quickly. In the meanwhile, when one looks about, it is obvious that on-the-street conservatives are disgusted, but we don't do much more than talk among ourselves. Meanwhile, the Left is in full-on attack mode at every level.

153 149 Polliwog the 'ette,

Polli good to see you...I am back on twatter and I agree...

the media collusion to the degree that it exists in a voluntary sense coupled with the ease of creating an insurgency with no blowback is new....

154 Dear CNN, when the fit hits the shan, you will not be spared. Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 11, 2013 10:32 AM (uhftQ) Indeed. At some point in the future, I think we need to hunt them down and bring them to justice in the same manner as do the Israelis regarding former Nazis. "Por encourager les autres."

155 128 someone wrote the list of concealed carry from Missouri citizens was sent to the Feds illegally? ------ Perhaps we should declare Missouri a no list sending zone?

156 I have a sneaking suspicion it's the pdf and not you. We get some pdfs in from a vendor which will only print properly from reader XI. It's only from one person there and only certain documents. No one can figure out why.

I blame demon possession.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 11, 2013 10:39 AM (VtjlW)

Bossman just told me to quit fucking with it and just send it over to the print shop. He's got to go over there to pick up some other drawings so no big deal. Fine. That means I have to use the pdf splitter to pull those couple pages out of the pdf and then put them in zip format. No biggie. Except now the pdf splitter won't work. Error message.

funnyfunnyFunnyFunnyFUNNYFUNNY.......

157 While we wait for them to vote our rights away, here is some happiness. Video of the day: http://tinyurl.com/d6p4hf7 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 11, 2013 10:32 AM (mKNJE) I paused listening to rand paul's speech to watch this. Of course it makes you cry, but worth it. thx

158 Speaking of propaganda:

(The Daily Caller) Eighth graders in Union Grove, Wisc. — a tiny enclave just over the Illinois border — are learning reading, writing, arithmetic and, of course, that conservatives are a bunch of authoritarian, oppressive thugs.

As EAGnews explains, an unnamed eighth-grade teacher in the Union Grove school district assigned a vocabulary crossword puzzle with clues containing “definitions” of liberalism and conservatism.

Conservatism, according to the public school assignment, is “the political belief of preserving traditional moral values by restricting personal freedoms and encouraging prosperity through economic freedom.”

How are impressionable Union Grove eighth graders instructed about liberalism? They are indoctrinated that it is “the political belief of equality and personal freedom for everyone, often changing the current system to increase government protection of civil liberties.”

159 did i get that wrong?


Nope. On Instapundit.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2013 10:40 AM (GFM2b)

thank you i will go find it.

160 153 Mike Hammer,

The charismatic leader came...

the newsies killed her in the crib which is bad but expected....

our aid in killing her as a whole was not.

Spirit of '74

Let it burn

161 PDF's that act like that are most likely comprised of "images".  In other words, they took a picture of a page (scanned most likely) and made it into a pdf.  If you try to "grab" (copy) some of the words, you will find you cannot... because it is an image, not text.

162 The fact you own a firearm is already "Registered", comrade. Relax, watch TV, and just don't mind the loud noises from further up in the neighborhood that sound like they are getting nearer.

163 I don't wish death on lefty journalists, I wish poverty and obscurity. That is far worse than death to an elitist

164 Well, at least we still have the Third Amendment... for now.

165 I think the advent of instant communication made the jobs of those devoted solely to obtaining power easier as well, and that was something entirely unforseen by the Founders. ---- From what I understand they were surrounded by "loyalists". And they (the founders) were the minority position, kind of like tea parters, they were "extremists" of the day, and the signers of the constitution were marked men for life.

166 Criminal #1: Pssst, hey buddy, wanna buy this 9? Criminal #2: Yeah, sure. How much? Criminal #1: 250. Cash. Oh, and if you don't mind, you'll also need to fill out this federal form which has your name, address, and the serial number of this gun, among other things, which I'll be required to keep for years and will dutifully hand over to the ATF should they ask. Since I'm a criminal, you know, I like to keep detailed records of gun sales. Because I don't want to get in trouble. The new gun law is super serious.

167 139 I doubt if the Founders took into account how
determined our enemies would become, that they could plant the seeds of
division so deeply in American soil that our own officials would be the
ones to revoke our rights.

Somewhere, our enemies are smiling and laughing at our stupidity. We freely elected the people responsible for our downfall.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 11, 2013 10:33 AM (+z4pE)

I am all for balkanization of the US after Teh Burn happens. Let them have their upper northwest and northeast, and CA. We'll have the rest.
Posted by: EC at April 11, 2013 10:37 AM
=============================================

You will take what we give you, if in fact, we give you anything.

168 "pyschological comfort dog" What's the root this crap

169 Thatcher Funeral Guest List Downing Street have just released the first names who will attend Thatcher’s funeral on Wednesday: - All surviving former prime ministers – All surviving former US Presidents and a Reagan family representative – Hillary Clinton – All surviving members of Lady Thatcher’s Cabinets – The current Cabinet – The Leader of Her Majesty’s Opposition – President Manuel Barroso – Sir Bernard and Lady Ingham – Fredrick Forsyth CBE – Former Prime Minister Mahathir of Malaysia – A representative of Nelson Mandela Some of those attending include: – Mr & Mrs Michael Portillo – Tony & Cherie Blair – F.W. de Klerk – Dame Shirley Bassey DBE – Jeremy Clarkson – Lord and Lady Lloyd Webber – Lord and Lady Archer – Lord Powell of Bayswater KCMG OBE – Lord Carrington – Prime Minister Harper of Canada - Former Prime Minister Brian Mulrooney of Canada Get rid of Hillary; get rid of the Blairs; get rid of Barraso; get rid of Mandela [though she called him a terrorist, and rightfully so, she prevented his execution, so maybe he wanted to attend.] I like that Frederick Forsyth and Shirley Bassey is attending. Belt one out, Shirley! http://goo.gl/wkDDM

170 That means I have to use the pdf splitter to pull those couple pages out of the pdf and then put them in zip format. No biggie. Except now the pdf splitter won't work. Error message. Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 11, 2013 10:41 AM (da5Wo) Tan triste. Ten un poco de limonada.

171 Meanwhile, the Left is in full-on attack mode at every level. Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 11, 2013 10:40 AM (aDwsi) And they are in positions to do damage with their attacks. We need to attack back. I've been contemplating ways to do so. I'm currently pondering an electronic billboard campaign. It's a very small footprint as such things go, but if the message is put forth correctly, the seething liberals will simply draw more and more attention to it. They won't be able to help themselves I think.

172

The Missouri State Highway Patrol has twice turned over the entire list of Missouri concealed weapon permit holders to federal authorities, most recently in January, Sen. Kurt Schaefer said Wednesday.

Questioning in the Senate Appropriations Committee revealed that on two occasions, in November 2011 and again in January, the patrol asked for and received the full list from the state Division of Motor Vehicle and Driver Licensing

instapundit, courtesy of rick

173 funnyfunnyFunnyFunnyFUNNYFUNNY....... Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 11, 2013 10:41 AM (da5Wo) *slides over rope*

174 Pieces of Shit: DEMOCRATS ARE BLOCKING RESOLUTION TO HONOR LADY THATCHER http://goo.gl/wCd0D

175 128 Willow,

I pointed it out last night....

the MO SHP "gave" the total list of ~170,000 CCW holders ostensibly to Soc Sec at the Federal level....

and lied to the Governor about it for months.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/cocs2lc

Story at link...

"you knuckle dragging wingnuts are crazy the govt would ever collude to use disparate lists to play games!"

//J "kevorkian" West

176 someone wrote the list of concealed carry from Missouri citizens was sent to the Feds illegally? did i get that wrong? Nope. On Instapundit. Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2013 10:40 AM (GFM2b) And is anybody the slightest bit surprised that such a thing would happen?

177 164 KBDaBear,

Yeah KB....I am slowly "evolving" on a point I used to largely agree with you on.

They seem to respect murderers and thugs...maybe we need to earn their respect by acting like what they fear.

178

Get rid of Hillary; get rid of the Blairs; get rid of Barraso; get rid of Mandela [though she called him a terrorist, and rightfully so, she prevented his execution, so maybe he wanted to attend.]

 

At least it's only a REPRESENTATIVE of Mandela who's going.  I'm pretty sure the old dipshit is too sick and/or frail to make the trip.  Not much of a loss, IMO.

 

I am sickened at the thought of    an   Obammy   rep    attending Thatcher's funeral,   let alone the man himself.     The bile in my throat is sizzling.

179 Sorry about that!

180 George Michael of WHAM fame at April 11, 2013 10:47 AM (dU1aF) Into the barrel.

181 Hahaha....haven't seen a barrel-worthy entire page cut and paste in a while.

182 thank you i will go find it. Posted by: willow at April 11, 2013 10:42 AM (nqBYe) Did I not include the link? scrolls up Comment #55. It goes to The Blaze.

183 Dear CNN, when the fit hits the shan, you will not be spared.

Spared?!  They ought to be the first up against the wall and shot.  Fucking traitors.

184

We call  that an "in-kind contribution."

 

As long as  the senator  notes it on his campaign finance report, it's kosher.

List it right after "catering" and right  before "transportation."

185 George Michael sock?   IN THE BARREL.

186 Posted by: George Michael of WHAM fame at April 11, 2013 10:47 AM (dU1aF) in the barrel

187 175
Pieces of Shit: DEMOCRATS ARE BLOCKING RESOLUTION TO HONOR LADY THATCHER

http://goo.gl/wCd0D Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 11, 2013 10:45 AM
=====================

The collapse of America proceeds apace..., gaining speed

188 Posted by: George Michael of WHAM fame at April 11, 2013 10:47 AM (dU1aF) That's not a barreling. That's having to lick the wall of the current barrel whilst being put into another barrel containing rabid mutant radioactive pandas.

189 And is anybody the slightest bit surprised that such a thing would happen?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 11, 2013 10:47 AM (bb5+k)

not after that deal in NJ? where registered gun owners were listed in the paper to help "things along" for team D

190 Um clear out of the way boys...there's a barrel.

191 That's not a barreling. That's having to lick the wall of the current barrel whilst being put into another barrel containing rabid mutant radioactive pandas.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 11, 2013 10:49 AM (VtjlW)

 

... I don't know why, but I have a feeling that even rabid mutant radioactive pandas would be cute   to me.

192 You can pretty much tell what a Bill is NOT going to do.

The current lie for the gun grabbing and confiscation preparation bill is:

Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Bill.
(as proposed by Senator Toomey and named by memeorandum)

It will not improve Public safety nor does it protect 2A Rights.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED SEN. TOOMEY!!

Wrote him 2 emails; 1 to not do this and the 2nd telling him he was toast for doing this. Too bad my elected representative doesn't listen to me or millions of other PA Citizens. I know his email was getting slammed when I tried to send the 2nd one yesterday and pics I've seen of him, he knows he's screwed up.

I hear Bloomberg threatened ads in PA about him but he's not up for reelection til '16 so why's he concerned? I think The Pipsqueak for NYC had more on him than we know and Toomey caved.

(btw Toomey is NOT a native Pennsylvanian. He moved there sometime after he graduated Harvard. He is also tied to BANKING INTERESTS and was involved in credit swaps, a bane to the economy for us little people.)

Fuck him and his short career in politics.

193 I am all for balkanization of the US after Teh Burn happens. Let them have their upper northwest and northeast, and CA. We'll have the rest. Posted by: EC at April 11, 2013 10:37 AM ============================================= I disagree. Once we stabilize OUR part of the continent, we should take over THEIR part of the continent.

194 Cuz pandas.

195 george michael keep your genitals in the barrel

196

Agreed. Socialist government-as-religion wasn't really a factor yet (although the French Revolution was in the same general time frame). I think the advent of instant communication made the jobs of those devoted solely to obtaining power easier as well, and that was something entirely unforseen by the Founders.

 

Granted, technology has made it easier for those who   wish to enslave us to organize and coordinate their efforts.

 

But when one focuses  on Principle, as the Founders did, one  recognizes that Evil never stops. The insightful  minds that forged our country knew the faults of human nature, and did everything in their power to   minimize those faults within  government. It's taken over 200 years, but it appears that, by tolerating lies from our   leaders, Evil has finally won.

 

What recourse remains for us? How can we counter the overt efforts of CNN and the other media outlets  who are   openly trying to brainwash the LIV's to give up their God-given rights? They should be stopped,  but how?

197 George, that's an embarreling. And stay away from the barrel's bunghole, that's supposed to be a punishment, not a reward.

198 Over on Drudge, there is a report that DHS was going to purchase bagpipes.

And marching drums.  But when Big Sis saw it on Drudge the order was cancelled.  Wonder what the plans for them were, exactly.

199 Anders Breivik had a solution for the "liberals" problem, if you know what I mean. And I think you do. We have a second amendment to defend ourselves against government and freedom-hating liberalism, if you know what I mean. And I think you do. God bless America!

200 I disagree. Once we stabilize OUR part of the continent, we should take over THEIR part of the continent.

Take over?  For what?  If we take over their part, that means we're responsible for them.  Let them have their former blue state shitholes to rot in.  I don't want to set up for another repeat in another 230 years.

201 Okay, folks, must head off and do actual work now.   Don't break the blog while I'm gone, and someone check in with ace to   make sure the Ewok    hasn't    gone on an Ambien sleepwalking rampage, raiding convenience store    cold rooms for frozen mozzarella sticks.

202 Number ONR rule for any new legislation: Do NOT let there be any interpretation by any Federal Agency to write the Law. Spell out exactly what they New Law is allowed to do and not do. That is one reason obamacare is such a clusterfuck and disaster.

203

Some of those attending include:

– Mr & Mrs Michael Portillo
– Tony & Cherie Blair
– F.W. de Klerk
– Dame Shirley Bassey DBE
– Jeremy Clarkson
– Lord and Lady Lloyd Webber
– Lord and Lady Archer
– Lord Powell of Bayswater KCMG OBE
– Lord Carrington
– Prime Minister Harper of Canada
- Former Prime Minister Brian Mulrooney of Canada

----

Please don't let Jeremy drive the hearse

204 Jean, you must have missed the weekend threads about Ashley Judd and her so-precarious mental state that she needs a "psychological comfort dog" (really,truly, no joke) with her at all times.

205 And marching drums. But when Big Sis saw it on Drudge the order was cancelled. Wonder what the plans for them were, exactly.

Freedom?

206 This really is a good speech by rand paul if you can play it in the background while you're working, working out, or cooking... foxnation http://tinyurl.com/d89x773

207 *kicks barrel containing George Michael of WHAM* That little flashback post coupled with ace posting before noon really made me afraid I was hallucinating.

208 Please don't let Jeremy drive the hearse

I think Baroness Thatcher would actually get a kick out of that, from what I've read about her.

Why are the liberal pieces of shit Tony and Cherie Blair invited?

209 thank you i will go find it. Posted by: willow at April 11, 2013 10:42 AM (nqBYe) Did I not include the link? scrolls up Comment #55. It goes to The Blaze. I didn't. It's a not a quick process to tinyurl something on a smartphone.

210 we should take over THEIR part of the continent.

Why?  That would be like invading Zimbabwe.

211 211 RickB223,

If it is about the MO gun list caper I gave a link to a story on it...

#WAR

212

Remember, I was the smart one.

213

210Please don't let Jeremy drive the hearse

I think Baroness Thatcher would actually get a kick out of that, from what I've read about her.

----

Anyone know if Zonda makes a hearse?

214 Take over? For what? If we take over their part, that means we're responsible for them. Let them have their former blue state shitholes to rot in. I don't want to set up for another repeat in another 230 years. Posted by: EC at April 11, 2013 10:52 AM (GQ8sn) They won't stay in them. They will migrate towards our section and work to f*ck it up. No, we have to root out the rats wherever we can find them. We have to be aggressive against them because they will not stop. Ever.

215
174 funnyfunnyFunnyFunnyFUNNYFUNNY.......
Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 11, 2013 10:41 AM (da5Wo)


*slides over rope*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 11, 2013 10:45 AM (VtjlW)

I may use it to hang myself. I attempted to download a new splitter. Computer apparently didn't like that. It's bad to drink at work, right?

Oh, and I've also got my boss/dad standing behind me, "What's the matter with you?" I tell him. "So is the thing broke or what?" My response had him exiting the room quickly.

216

 "psychological comfort dog"

 

 

Comfort dog. Like pot pie, or mashed potatoes, or apple pie?

217 Moonbat Rep. Keith Ellison (D-CAIR) Endorses “Awesome Guy” Anthony Weiner For NYC Mayor… You are who your endorsements are

218 216 Diogenes Lamp,

In two generations we'll be no closer emotionally to them than we are the Canadians or English...

by 4th generation we'll use the bastards as target practice if need be.

#divorce

219  disagree. Once we stabilize OUR part of the continent, we should take over THEIR part of the continent.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 11, 2013 10:50 AM (bb5+k)---

 

It's the only way to be sure!

220 It's as if Toomey and Manchin have completely or conveniently ignored Democrats penchant for incrementalism.

It's how the Democrats have gotten where they are today.

They will work with a small step today in order to achieve what they want tomorrow.

Today's accomplishment is simply a stepping stone towards their goal.

221 204 Number ONR rule for any new legislation: Do NOT let there be any interpretation by any Federal Agency to write the Law. Spell out exactly what they New Law is allowed to do and not do. That is one reason obamacare is such a clusterfuck and disaster. Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 11, 2013 10:52 AM
===================

The EPA. They just write whatever rule they care to, thus CO2 becomes a 'pollutant', thus EPA bureaucrats exercise control over damn near everything.

222 They won't stay in them. They will migrate towards our section and work to f*ck it up. No, we have to root out the rats wherever we can find them. We have to be aggressive against them because they will not stop. Ever.


We'll have the walls, barriers, minefields, sharks with lasers on their heads, etc up this time.  No more of this blue state exodus bullshit.

223 I didn't. It's a not a quick process to tinyurl something on a smartphone. Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2013 10:55 AM (GFM2b) No, I posted the link when I commented on it at #55. God bless the morons that use their phones to post. You have the patience of a saint.

224 I hear Bloomberg threatened ads in PA about him but he's not up for reelection til '16 so why's he concerned? I think The Pipsqueak for NYC had more on him than we know and Toomey caved. As I said in an earlier thread, dead hooker or live boy.

225 BTW, "All surviving former US Presidents" includes Jimmy Carter, no?

An Israeli university just gave him an award for peace.  Self-hating suckers of cock.

226

"I am all for balkanization of the US after Teh Burn happens. Let them have their upper northwest and northeast, and CA. We'll have the rest."

 

The Big Divorce is really the only way I see this country avoid eventually bathing itself in  its own blood to the point of oblivion.    If our leaders had an ounce of humanity they'd be talking about a split up as a way to save thousands, perhaps millions of lives. 

227 Why? That would be like invading Zimbabwe. Posted by: @PurpAv at April 11, 2013 10:55 AM (/gHaE) Corpses spread disease. If you don't eradicate the disease, it will spread to healthy victims.

228 george michael is not allowed to have a comfort dog.....iykwimaityd

229 226 rickb223,

and as I said....

spirit of '74

See Ya Pat.

230

They won't stay in them. They will migrate towards our section and work to f*ck it up. No, we have to root out the rats wherever we can find them. We have to be aggressive against them because they will not stop. Ever.

---

Time to build some real border walls. with boiling oil (which we'll have fracking lots of)

231 228 jaws,

step 1 is voting with your feet....

Run red

232 153 mike "conservatives are disgusted, but we don't do much more than talk among ourselves." Have you tried to buy ammo lately?

233 B-Boy @ 198 I don't disagree. There've been times that I've almost been in tears listening to The Federalists propound the *how* of keeping a Republic. Their final answer though is always "popular revolt of an armed citizenry" and I fear they were right about that as well (and would have started long ago).

234 fgs

235

"It is always possible that some charismatic conservative leader will turn up"

 

Are u ready to completely destroy, as in burn to the ground, the media in order to protect said leader when they arrive?

236 Wonder what the plans for them were, exactly.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 11, 2013 10:52 AM (B/VB5)

A full reenactment of Bannock Burn?

237 RickB223, If it is about the MO gun list caper I gave a link to a story on it... #WAR Thanks for the six cover sven.

238 237 Sarah Palin,

I am now....

miss you little sure shot...sorry we didn't protect you like they shielded King Putt

239 239 rickb223,

shield to shoulder brother

240 The Big Divorce is really the only way I see this country avoid eventually bathing itself in its own blood to the point of oblivion. If our leaders had an ounce of humanity they'd be talking about a split up as a way to save thousands, perhaps millions of lives. Posted by: Jaws at April 11, 2013 10:58 AM (4I3Uo) Cut off the productive from the unproductive and you will still have bathing in blood. Starving people will not agree to do without voluntarily.

241 #72 - The rest of Yall 49 states go for it!

Texas will secede and sit back and watch and profit!

242 242 Diogenes lamp,

well they won't get into my new home lightly either....

I do not *owe* them shit if they are able to work

243 Are u ready to completely destroy, as in burn to the ground, the media in order to protect said leader when they arrive? Posted by: Sarah Palin at April 11, 2013 11:00 AM (PQs9U) I would like to do that anyway.

244 the local "dick's" gets a truck on wed and fri ....they don't know what is in the truck but last fri it was ammo!!!! they only let me buy 3 boxes of 9mm but hey! it added to the stash....

245

Posted by: Total American at April 11, 2013 10:52 AM (GwFSs)

 

I see you can't come up with an American conservative example can you dickweed.   Not like  Obama's friend Bill Ayers who  called for the elimination of 25 million.   Or unlike the other lefty heroes that wanted to start a race war in order to kill those that did not  think like them.    What side of the aisle were the people who have assasinated our Presidents and other politicians?

 

You're a  communist  slut,  if  you know what I mean and I think you do.  

 

 

246 Yeah, complete destruction of the media sounds like fun with or without a leader appearing.

247 I may use it to hang myself. I attempted to download a new splitter. Computer apparently didn't like that. It's bad to drink at work, right? Oh, and I've also got my boss/dad standing behind me, "What's the matter with you?" I tell him. "So is the thing broke or what?" My response had him exiting the room quickly. Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 11, 2013 10:57 AM (da5Wo) Remember, the Moron way is to express rage in an external fashion rather than internalizing it. Can't you just email the pdf to the print place and say hey I only need these four pages printed, kthnxsbai! Not that. I've done that. Or anything. (Alternate procedure, export those four pages as tiffs or jpgs and see if then they'll print)

248 punch a press person in the face day?month? year? i'm up for as long as it takes.....

249 248 Ian S,

Project Wideawake

I aim to skin the media one day literally if God and History allows and figuratively for breakfast

250 Corpses spread disease. If you don't eradicate the disease, it will spread to healthy victims.


I think an intensive top to bottom "re-org" of our culture is in order after Teh Burn and Balkanization.  Clearly spell out the differences between the Left and Right and the reasons why liberalism doesn't and will never work.  Re-build the schools and media not to censor the left, but to expose every sorry ass facet of their history so everyone can see what a horrible waste of time it was to tolerate them.  Show the reasons for everything up to Teh Burn and why we won't go there again.  Ever.

251 well they won't get into my new home lightly either.... I do not *owe* them shit if they are able to work Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 11, 2013 11:02 AM (LRFds) If you set the boundary for action at your own home, they will take us down one by one. We have to fight them as a community because "E pluribus unum"

252

The MFM not only sucks but they swallow too. The idea that they consider themselves impartial is disgusting.

253 If our leaders had an ounce of humanity they'd be talking about a split up as a way to save thousands, perhaps millions of lives. They don't care. They THINK that they'll be in charge after The Great Burning.

254 Question:

Why are we not seeing grief from the left over the near certainty that they will end up with far less out of any gun-control legislation?

255 Can't you just email the pdf to the print place and say hey I only need these four pages printed, kthnxsbai! 



90% chance they'll print out the entire pdf. Which would be 24 more pages than I need. At $2+ a page. When we were just chastised this morning by the big boss (grandpa) about our printing costs.



(Alternate procedure, export those four pages as tiffs or jpgs and see if then they'll print)

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 11, 2013 11:03 AM (VtjlW)

Any idea how to do that in this fucktastic shit known as Windows 8?

256 253 Diogenes Lamp,

My home is roughly the state of Texas, Louisiana, and as many as go along.....

when the divorce is final I want a separate nation not "sucker zone A" for Free Shit Army

257 Cut off the productive from the unproductive and you will still have bathing in blood. Starving people will not agree to do without voluntarily.

Not necessarily.  Give them the opportunity to finally build the society they want without any interference.  Let them build their utopia, or at least try to.  All the while, pointing and laughing from our ramparts and gun batteries.

258 punch a press person in the face day?month? year? i'm up for as long as it takes..... Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 11, 2013 11:04 AM (GVxQo) I have long thought that if our people copied the Muslims, the media would be less willing to offend us. Fear and Respect are opposite sides of the same coin.

259

B-Boy @ 198 I don't disagree. There've been times that I've almost been in tears listening to The Federalists propound the *how* of keeping a Republic. Their final answer though is always "popular revolt of an armed citizenry" and I fear they were right about that as well (and would have started long ago).

 

One timeless  Principle I understand is:  if we do not impose our will   upon our enemies, they will impose their will upon us. This is the struggle of history against  those who   wish to be free versus   those  who wish to enslave others.

 

The    time is coming for us to free ourselves from the forces of tyranny. We will   be forced to impose our will on our masters, and   cast off their chains. If we don't insist upon our freedom, in whatever form  that takes,  we will become slaves.

 

We are rapidly approaching the   point of    no   return.

260 Why are we not seeing grief from the left over the near certainty that they will end up with far less out of any gun-control legislation?>>

Because they have unlimited downs to play and the ball still is moving the way they want it to.

261 256 Serious Cat,

because they are being told...if you aren't happy with this encorachment we'll get 'em next time

How precisely do we fight that in reverse?

Fuck Patsy T not one step further left.

Spirit of '74 fund the real democrats

262 am I in b4 the Civil War reference?

263 Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 11, 2013 11:07 AM (LRFds) Hope you have learned some good border patrol lessons from Big Sis.

264 If you don't eradicate the disease, it will spread to healthy victims.

You can't eradicate stupid, you can only contain it.

265

Not necessarily. Give them the opportunity to finally build the society they want without any interference.

 

 

There will always be an excuse, and the excuse for the failure will be you. Just ask any libtard why Norkor and Cuba are failing.

266 260 If our people copied the Muslims, they wouldn't be our people.

267 They don't care. They THINK that they'll be in charge after The Great Burning. Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2013 11:05 AM (GFM2b) And I am quite concerned that they very well may be. Dictatorship is always an option for a wrecked society.

268

This week on Top Gear we try to prove you can bury a Prime Minister for less that 1500 quid.

I will be transporting Maggie Thatcher to her grave in this Lancier Stratos.

James May will take John Major to his grave in a Lada Riva, so he'll feel right at home.

And Richard Hammond will deliver Gordon Brown to his final resting place in a Reliant Robin.

And at the graveyard there will be a series of challenges...

269 the local "dick's" gets a truck on wed and fri ....they don't know what is in the truck but last fri it was ammo!!!! they only let me buy 3 boxes of 9mm but hey! it added to the stash.... Gander Mountian in Sherman, Tx had 7.62x54 & 12 ga. Not much else.

270 *kicks barrel containing George Michael of WHAM*

That little flashback post coupled with ace posting before noon really made me afraid I was hallucinating.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone

***

George is in the barrel AGAIN?! I thought we told you morons to watch out for him. Damnit. We broke two Jaws of Life getting him out of there last time.

We're going to have to take the barrel apart!

271 OT we have a winter storm brewing here with up to a foot of global warming.

272 267 Cicero,

as seen here yesterday with ShitTown jerry,

"Chicago is a warzone because TEXAS!"

Uh "yeah" Jerry...."yeah"

GFYS Chicago

273 "We seriously need to split this country in two." No, not in two. No need to "reinvent" the wheel. Reference check the US Constitution as the Urtext respecting balanced and limited governance... UNALIENABLE INDIVIDUAL Rights have complete precedence to all others. STATE'S Rights have priority, and precede the existence of any nationally centralized/federal authority. Just as the original confederation of states wasn't well coordinated after our American 1776 Revolution and eventual national Independence, those concerned reconvened to better facilitate the establishment of a national identity. But Sovereign State's Rights were absolutely respected. Until the Industrialists determined to monopolize the economy via politics. /Morons may as well admit that slavery was already being phased out culturally and politically; and that the War Between the States was not begun over slavery, but over the Industrialists' refusal to financially sponsor their own ventures without forcing tax payers to fund such investments, and specifically forcing the agrarian economy to provide the funding for the industrialists who were not investing in the South, but in the North and 'midwest' north (railways, mills, factories). Had the so called civil war been instigated in order to end racism, then the North lost. Blacks may have been "freed" but were not welcome except as servants with no better situation than previously. As if the poverty suffered was any more benevolent from the Robber Barons, regardless of ethnicity, while every family member including children all worked 12 hour days 6 days a week in sweat shops and mines with no consideration for worker safety standards or medical care for the injured workers. Don't go on and on about blaming Unions for corruption, as if they either have the monopoly on corruption, or even that they created corruption. Look to our own government at every level, local/state/federal, that functions today on the grounds of complete corruption and amassing tyranny abroad so that we will suffer from tyranny at home. 86. Idea Determines Form. Authenticity... Don't fall for a constitutional convention with this gang of thugs to finish that off. We don't want to CHANGE the Constitution, imo. But we do want to REPEAL legislation that has made Constitutional Governance nonexistent. Branches of government begat illegitimate bureaucracies, bastardizing our nation, usurping powers never vested constitutionally in order to destroy the Constitution, the US citizenry and the enlightenment that recognizes and respects the unalienable rights applicable to all of humanity. The charismatic leader is the untrustworthy person. As if Hollywood hasn't illustrated that for Americans, if the viewing audience failed to notice that leaders or stars are frauds that profit by skinning you alive, including charismatic Ponzi "investment" advisers selling a thousand points of light, a kinder-gentler nation, Socialist compassionate conservatism, corporatist Statism, the Patriot Act and DHS to erase US Constitutional Governance, TARP to save the Dollar that was entirely gifted the the thieves that "invested" into their own Ponzi schemes at taxpayer entire expense for global meltdown, Executive Orders including Bush's "authorizing" the office of the Treasury Secretary with complete autonomy, or simply Wilson's Federal Reserve that sells AT INTEREST DEBT the printed fiat Dollar to the US Government to spend without impediment from the US citizenry or constitutional protocol, the citizen votes most certainly not represented in Washington by elected Congress and the Potus/Cabinet, nor is the Will of the People represented by the Judicial Branch and the SCOTUS.

274 269 Diogenes lamp,

there are apps for that....

including FM 3-24

275 My home is roughly the state of Texas, Louisiana, and as many as go along..... when the divorce is final I want a separate nation not "sucker zone A" for Free Shit Army Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 11, 2013 11:07 AM (LRFds) Till that happens, we need to develop as much financial independence as we are able. We need to rely more heavily on our own industries, and less heavy on those in Enemy territory.

276 One timeless Principle I understand is: if we do not impose our will upon our enemies, they will impose their will upon us. This is the struggle of history against those who wish to be free versus those who wish to enslave others. The time is coming for us to free ourselves from the forces of tyranny. We will be forced to impose our will on our masters, and cast off their chains. If we don't insist upon our freedom, in whatever form that takes, we will become slaves. We are rapidly approaching the point of no return. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 11, 2013 11:08 AM (+z4pE) This is what I meant when I said we need to take over their areas. If we do not deal with Carthage, we will have to fight it again.

277

"Cut off the productive from the unproductive and you will still have
bathing in blood. Starving people will not agree to do without
voluntarily. "

 

I  think "Blue America" would still have a good share of "productive" people who want to stay for social, family, and political reasons.  These are the people who already don't mind being raped for more than half of what they earn and chastise people for not wanting to "give" more.  Fuck 'em.  they can stay in NYC or LA and support the FSA to their hearts'  content.

278 Till that happens, we need to develop as much financial independence as we are able. We need to rely more heavily on our own industries, and less heavy on those in Enemy territory.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 11, 2013 11:11 AM (bb5+k)

What of a standing army?  If we fractured into a collection of fully independent states, we'd have the Chinese, Islamists and Russians over here in a second planting flags.

279 Any idea how to do that in this fucktastic shit known as Windows 8?>>

Not sure about windows 8 but I assemble reports by highlighting the PDF page content (using the drag a box around it in Adobe) Then ctrl+C and drop into word ctrl+V.

280 AAARGGHHH!



Put me some f'n knowledge here, this NoVaMoMee, is that in June or July? Cause if it's July 21 that's gonna suck for me.

281 277 Diogenes Lamp,

Yeah...well that's why I am backing that imaginary blog's imaginary group with cash...

if I ever even get one round of ammo from it I win....

and I am so hungry for ANY win......


any win

282 Put me some f'n knowledge here, this NoVaMoMee, is that in June or July? Cause if it's July 21 that's gonna suck for me.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 11, 2013 11:13 AM (yh0zB)

June 21

283 B-Boy @ 261 Yes. It's pretty clear why The Federalist Papers aren't taught in school any more. Heck, I graduated 20 years ago and they weren't taught then. As a people we have become so much less than our potential and I *hate* those who intended this exact outcome.

284 You can't eradicate stupid, you can only contain it. Posted by: @PurpAv at April 11, 2013 11:09 AM (/gHaE) If you can contain it, it will eradicate itself. I'm suggesting that you can't contain it. Parasites will always seek out new hosts.

285 280 Heralder,

uh "yeah'...and that would probably be good for us as a people...part of the reason ew are so fucking stupid as a nation right now is it is painless to not be smart


fuck that...let'em come saves us the gas to go get the fuckers.

286 Any idea how to do that in this fucktastic shit known as Windows 8? Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 11, 2013 11:06 AM (da5Wo) What version of Acrobat? Full version or just reader? If it's a full version, file export image then pick tiff or jpeg. Save the file, open the image file and try to print just the necessary pages. If it's reader, you're SOL.

287 Not necessarily. Give them the opportunity to finally build the society they want without any interference.


There will always be an excuse, and the excuse for the failure will be you. Just ask any libtard why Norkor and Cuba are failing.



They can bitch and moan all they want on the other side of the reinforced wall with gun turrets, minefields, and barriers.  Fat lot of good it will do them when they can't force anyone to pay for or support them anymore.

288 260 If our people copied the Muslims, they wouldn't be our people. Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at April 11, 2013 11:09 AM (hFkWa) I was referring to the Muslim tendency to get violent on those who insult Islam. If we insist on tolerating their propaganda war against us, they will continue to wage it and to win it.

289 Gun vote almost done.

290 June 21

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 11, 2013 11:14 AM (da5Wo)

*whew* Huge sigh of relief. You are now returned to your regular programming.

291 Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 11, 2013 11:06 AM (da5Wo)

Why not screenshot the window with the pdf open and those pages up?

May have to paste two images together but even Paint will do that.

(did they leave Paint in Windows 8?)

do they have to be full size?

Improvise, adapt, overcome.  HOOORAHHH

292 Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 11, 2013 11:09 AM (bb5+k) Almost all the legislatively spawned regulations (20,000 for ACA as of now and they're still writing), has embedded features that are directly related to the support of a permanent class of rulers, and yet are accepted by "We the people".

293 Splitting the country in two would only make it that much simpler for the federal authoritarians to obliterate opposition. Rather, our American Renaissance with each State as Sovereign, our nation established being united sovereign states that each respects the US Constitution and Bill of Rights, but governs its own population according to State Constitution.

294

"We seriously need to split this country in two."

No, not in two.

No need to "reinvent" the wheel. Reference check the US Constitution as the Urtext respecting balanced and limited governance...

 

^That conversation can not and will not happen until a conversation about The Big Divorce happens.  Amazing that it takes all of that to  finally see following the constitution as written as a reasonable middle ground.  We've fallen so far.

295 And I am quite concerned that they very well may be.

Operating out of an anonymous shallow grave severely limits ones political clout.

296 291 mainah,

that there is a vote at all is a loss....

mark who goes where and if they have an "R" support the real D next race...

I plan to moneybomb some mules this next cycle.

297 O/T: New from the Who'da Thunkit Files:

Johnny "Rotten" Lydon as the voice of modern civility, says hate mobs celebrating Baroness Thatcher's death are "loathsome."

tinyurl.com/cfohcfg

298 fuck that...let'em come saves us the gas to go get the fuckers.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 11, 2013 11:15 AM (LRFds)

My meaning is there would probably cease to be those little republics before too long because world powers would move in and annex them.  You'd find yourself living under a foreign power.  The world hates America, they'd have a Thatcher party at our demise, and continue to party as the rest of the world ate up the left over scraps of the nation.

I think breaking up into states would just be a different flavor of absolute destruction.

 

 

299 299:  This is the story of Johnny Rotten.

300 . I'm suggesting that you can't contain it. Parasites will always seek out new hosts.

As appealing as genocide may be, I'm not ready to go that far.

301 What of a standing army? If we fractured into a collection of fully independent states, we'd have the Chinese, Islamists and Russians over here in a second planting flags. Posted by: Heralder at April 11, 2013 11:13 AM (+xmn4) If a split doesn't occur as a uniform block, it will be very short lived.

302 and yet are accepted by "We the people". Hrothgar, only when revisionism asserts rejection as if acceptance.

303 I plan to moneybomb some mules this next cycle. Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 11, 2013 11:17 AM (LRFds) Coburn and Isaakson both ayes. WTF? I know it's just a motion to proceed to the bill, but still, if you're going to vote no on the final bill than have the balls to vote no to even consider it.

304

Any idea how to do that in this fucktastic shit known as Windows 8?>>

No idea. I just got a new laptop with Windows 8. Or as I like to call it, Winblows Hate. What an utter piece of shit OS. Not everyone wants a fucking touch screen laptop. Some of us use it to work and don't want to reach over to find something. If you can find it at all. I had my computer guy change the start menu to look like Windows 7 so I can at least find where to turn the fricking thing off! Some companies I work with won't support applications on Winblows Hate. Seriously guys, did you have focus groups on these things? They probably did but filled it up with a bunch of hipsters on their tablets. POS OS!!!!!!!!!!!

305 290 I know what you meant. Getting violent, physically, with people who insult your religion---not stop you from practicing it, insult it---or your political views is called being a terrorist and a thug. Our people aren't that.

306 IIRCF Foxit PDF Reader will let you define an copyable image from a PDF and paste it into word or openoffice.

307 267 Cicero,

as seen here yesterday with ShitTown jerry,

"Chicago is a warzone because TEXAS!"

Uh "yeah" Jerry...."yeah"

GFYS Chicago

Posted by: sven10077

***

From a former IL resident, I agree strongly.

308 Yeah...well that's why I am backing that imaginary blog's imaginary group with cash... if I ever even get one round of ammo from it I win.... and I am so hungry for ANY win...... any win Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 11, 2013 11:13 AM (LRFds) I put some in myself. Will likely put in more, but I have pretty rigid budget discipline, so new expenditures have to be worked into the overall plan.

309 I read an article yesterday that said Windows 8 is tamping down weak PC sales even further.

310 Sen. Mark Kirk: Booze and boat parties smoothed bipartisan gun deal (on Manchin's yacht)

311 300 Herlader,

Not being a dick...well maybe being a dick...

go read the "frontiersman"....

it would do the republic good for us to scrub our sins with foreign blood on our soil for a while....

the world wants to play cowboys and indians I have no issue with that....

we did okay with the original indians.

312 we'd have the Chinese, Islamists and Russians over here in a second planting flags. Posted by: Heralder at April 11, 2013 11:13 AM (+xmn4) Sorry to tell you they're already here.

313 As appealing as genocide may be, I'm not ready to go that far.


Yes.  The people aren't the problem, it's the ideas.  Let them have their 'perfect' society.  I'll watch from the other side.  When it all comes crashing down for them and they start looking at our side, I'll be pointing to the "Go Fuck Yourself!" sign.

314 What version of Acrobat? Full version or just reader? If it's a full version, file export image then pick tiff or jpeg. Save the file, open the image file and try to print just the necessary pages.

If it's reader, you're SOL.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 11, 2013 11:15 AM (VtjlW)

Reader XI

I got it though. It took some foul language and threats on my part. I download a new pdf splitter. Computer won't extract and install files. Haha. So I download yet another pdf splitter, this one appears to work fine. Though I don't like it near as much as the one that shit the bed on me.

315 Who is crazier, the assholes violating the constitution, or the 90 million  armed americans letting it happen?

316 Bcochran1981- If you happen to have Microsoft OneNote it is great for this- you can "print to onenote" from the Acrobat viewer, then cut n paste from there to Word, I do it all the time to rip stuff from PDF's. YMMV

317 Yes. It's pretty clear why The Federalist Papers aren't taught in school any more. Heck, I graduated 20 years ago and they weren't taught then. As a people we have become so much less than our potential and I *hate* those who intended this exact outcome.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 11, 2013 11:14 AM (wbeNt)

 

 

I have a Political Science degree from a 'top' university and never even heard of The Federalist until years after I'd graduated.

318 By the way, not like anyone's paying attention this far down the thread, but...


...remember when I said yesterday that until and unless the NRA publicly announced that they were going to "score" a vote on this background check bill for their legislative report card, that their opposition to it was merely for show?

Well they just announced this morning, via spokesman Chris Cox, that they were indeed going to score this as a "key vote."  So whether that was their intention all along, or they got pushed into it by grassroots protest, the NRA's opposition to Manchin/Toomey bill is now official and has 'teeth.'

319 307 Jenny Hates Her Phone,

A union thug bit off a black man's thumb for being a tea partier....

you prefer roses or posies?

320 I doubt if whole states would secede, no matter how authoritarian it becomes. It will be like all other revolutions - a small band of criminals, hated by everyone in the majority, doing things to "disturb" society. If they win they will be heros. If they lose they will be terrorists.

321 Almost all the legislatively spawned regulations (20,000 for ACA as of now and they're still writing), has embedded features that are directly related to the support of a permanent class of rulers, and yet are accepted by "We the people". Posted by: Hrothgar at April 11, 2013 11:17 AM (Cnqmv) Ever since 1776, those who believe themselves to be natural "aristocrats" have worked to re-establish a neo-feudalism.

322 it would do the republic good for us to scrub our sins with foreign blood on our soil for a while....

the world wants to play cowboys and indians I have no issue with that....

we did okay with the original indians.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 11, 2013 11:22 AM (LRFds)

Also not to be a dick, but I think you strongly overestimate the chances of some red states holding off the army of a superpower. 

323
311 I read an article yesterday that said Windows 8 is tamping down weak PC sales even further.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 11, 2013 11:21 AM (/gHaE)

It sucks ass. Doesn't make a bit of sense. They changed around everything for no apparent reason. Controls don't make a bit of sense.

324 Lamar Alexander and Bob Corker. Two more aye votes. What did Obama/Reid promise those two that Tennessee would get in exchange for their support. Inquiring minds want to know.

325 I have a Political Science degree from a 'top' university and never even heard of The Federalist until years after I'd graduated.

Get a good lawyer and sue the university for malpractice and negligence.

326 Posted by: Minnfidel at April 11, 2013 11:19 AM (u0Z3Y) GHates decided that since so few people are still working, MS needed an entertainment platform where the illiterati could point at pictures to entertain themselves (no "writing" ability required). The thought of work being associated with computers is fading quickly.

327 I double posted inside a single post.



I seriously need a drink.

328 Conservatives, or as I like to say Constitutionalists, have always had the problem of having to vote for those who SAY they'll represent them but then when they are elected, change into or reveal themselves to actually be representing others.

They then apply parliamentary tricks and turns of phrase to still seem to be representing us but their actual actions aid those who don't.

We take people at their word and the election schedule allows false flag representatives to do a lot of damage before they can be turned out of office. Plus not all of us agree to how much damage they're doing and how much damage would be done by ousting them.

Thus we have people like McCain and Graham and Boehner representing us in name only. Yet they continue to be reelected.

Until we can effectively communicate the condition of the Republic to the citizens, we will be unable to affect much change to revert to a more productive and viable society.

Communications is the key. And the Left has always known that.

329 I have a Political Science wasted my money degree from a 'top' university and never even heard of The Federalist until years after I'd graduated.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 11, 2013 11:23 AM (W7ffl)

FIFY. IMO a PolySci degree is about as useless as a "(Insert ethnic/gender identity) Studies" degree.

330 As I posted yesterday, any self-respecting Crip, Blood, Zeta, La Eme, et al, can get their tattoed hands on any sort of weapon up to and ncluding bazookas, RPGs, and rockets plus any and all clips, magazines and ammo. These merry scamps kill women and children in their own neighborhoods every d@mn day. But, those women and kids are poor and of a color other than White....so big f'ing deal. Thank goodness, it's not racism on their part, or steps would be taken. Where is the person who will denounce those deaths? No where is where. The race pimps are too busy worshipping at the feet of dicrators and terrorists.

331

Yes. It's pretty clear why The Federalist Papers aren't taught in school any more. Heck, I graduated 20 years ago and they weren't taught then. As a people we have become so much less than our potential and I *hate* those who intended this exact outcome.

 

Same  here. They are despicable sub-humans, playing on emotions, deliberately confusing and lying to gain power and wealth for themselves.

 

We, on the other hand, recognize Truth when we hear it. We are concerned with providing a safe  and loving   home  for our families, free   from  unnecessary meddling. We   wish merely to be left alone to pursue happiness as we see   fit,  treating others as  we would   be treated.  This mindset is naturally pacifistic in nature.

 

That is what  must change.  We must become much more militant in our defense of freedom than we are now.  We absolutely have to start saying "No" to   those who wish us to be their slaves, and be willing to back it up.

332 324 heralder,

yeah really?

Get back to me after you take a hard alien from space look at Iraq and ghani and Libya, and....

FM 3-24 run the Blue, Green, red and white cases in it...

the race is how much blood and money are you willing to send where to try to convince white that green is better than red....

we lost that fight in 'ghani and are gonna lose it in iraq within 10 years.

333 I download a new pdf splitter. Computer won't extract and install files. Haha. So I download yet another pdf splitter, this one appears to work fine. Though I don't like it near as much as the one that shit the bed on me. I have to use PDF Converter Enterprise 7.1 here at work. Meh. It works.

334 It sucks ass. Doesn't make a bit of sense. They changed around everything for no apparent reason. Controls don't make a bit of sense.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at April 11, 2013 11:24 AM (da5Wo)

I'm told it was made to unite the OS for both tablet and desktop PCs.  Problem is, the functions and UI of a tablet differs greatly from a desltop, so you end up with something so streamlined you can't even find the 'start' button.

335 Mugiwara @ 319 Now that's just scary. And I doubt I should be surprised.

336 That is what must change. We must become much more militant in our defense of freedom than we are now. We absolutely have to start saying "No" to those who wish us to be their slaves, and be willing to back it up. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 11, 2013 11:26 AM (+z4pE) AMEN

337 Any idea how to do that in this fucktastic shit known as Windows 8?

Install the Adobe Reader.  It's less safe than the built-in pdf reader, but has many more features.

338 OT:  Just a thought about the transgendered character in the DC Comics world.  We need a word to denigrate anyone who thinks transgenderism is not OK similar to the words homophobia and heteronormative used to define certain thoughts as hate thoughts.  I suggest normochmosomonormative.

339 @ 306  Fuck you.

340 The Federalist Papers are a phenomenal read. No wonder they have been suppressed. They present the kind of reasoned argument that is abhorrent to liberal/progressives and would prove very dangerous in a home school environment because the Community's children" might learn to think about freedom, power, tyranny, and politics.

341 311
I read an article yesterday that said Windows 8 is tamping down weak PC sales even further.


Posted by: @PurpAv at April 11, 2013 11:21 AM (/gHaE)

It sucks ass. Doesn't make a bit of sense. They changed around everything for no apparent reason. Controls don't make a bit of sense..........................Yes it is a POS. I might have to have 8 uninstalled and put in 7 as some companies I work for won't support it. There is a fix you can do to make the appearance of windows 7. I did that and can do most things like before but some things and apps still haven't figured out how to interface with it.

342 Just playing some philosophical games here ... I was wondering what the absolute minimum gun laws should be. I considered the wording of the Second Amendment -- "shall not be abridged" which, if taken literally, would suggest NO gun laws. Then, since our legal heritage is Judeo-Christian, I tried to recall if there are any Mosaic laws or teachings of Christ that impose any limits on possession of weapons. I'm drawing a complete blank. (Of course, there are laws against maiming and killing, but a person can do that with or without weapons.) Then I considered the conundrum of mentally ill people who might be prone to violence. Not sure what to do with that. This is a little exercise I do with different types of legislation, wondering how things would be if we took a minimalist approach to legislation.

343

yeah really?

Get back to me after you take a hard alien from space look at Iraq and ghani and Libya, and....

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 11, 2013 11:26 AM (LRFds)

You're right of course, I fully expect the Chinese or the Islamists to play by international rules like the Americans always have and try to not do too much collateral damage or just "cleanse" the whole area and take the land.  You mistake these other nations for fair players, they aren't.  They're not going to sit outside your house and be shot at so they can avoid maybe shooting someone else next to you.

344 As appealing as genocide may be, I'm not ready to go that far. Posted by: @PurpAv at April 11, 2013 11:19 AM (/gHaE) Not referring to genocide, but "meme eradication." What afflicts the people of this nation are bad ideas, which are constantly being reinforced by adherents getting into positions of influence. All we need is an equal footing in the meme spreading department and to cut off the artificial support for bad ideas from the Fed Gov, and the problem will slowly resolve itself. Just introduce reality to the population, and the bad actors will wither on the vine with no need for any overt action to deal with them.

345 GHates decided that since so few people are still working, MS needed an entertainment platform where the illiterati could point at pictures to entertain themselves (no "writing" ability required). The thought of work being associated with computers is fading quickly.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 11, 2013 11:25 AM .....................Yep, I'm sure it's great if your some hipster doofus sitting in a coffee shop facebooking your other hipster doofus friends. Actual work, not so much.

346 It sucks ass. Doesn't make a bit of sense. They changed around everything for no apparent reason. Controls don't make a bit of sense..........................Yes it is a POS. I might have to have 8 uninstalled and put in 7 as some companies I work for won't support it. There is a fix you can do to make the appearance of windows 7. I did that and can do most things like before but some things and apps still haven't figured out how to interface with it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 11, 2013 11:29 AM (u0Z3Y)

Is there a fix for those who like the appearance of Windows XP?

347 345 Heralder,

There are counter apps for that....

in the end herlader as always the equation is "how far are you willing to go?"

and my answer is to the gun cabinet or Antaractica or Siberia or....

I will not comply not will I ever allow my effort to be used to enslave this nation.

348 Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 11, 2013 11:26 AM (LRFds) Our leaders/rulers never had any intention of winning in Iraq or the 'Stan. There is still no definition of what victory is and we are still loosing troops to murderous muz scum!

349 Totally O/T.

Yes, I'm a federal employee.  Yes, I see up close and personally just how awful, inefficient and generally fucked up the government is.  I should be used to it.

Today though, I witnessed ineptitude at such a level I was convinced the earth would open up at my feet and engulf us both in firey doom and magma-covered burney stuff.  I actually looked out the window to see if SMOD was on a rapidly-closing inbound course.  My right eyelid literally twitched as my brain processed the unholy dumbness unfolding before me.  I may have had a stroke of some sort.

Aside: I now understand why federal buildings forbid weapons. 

350

"Also not to be a dick, but I think you strongly overestimate the chances of some red states holding off the army of a superpower. "

 

What superpower would that be?  The one without the means of even crossing the Taiwan strait?

 

The one with its seaborne  hardware rotting at the dock? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

351 Another thing that isn't taught in today's American Government classes. Congress doesn't exist to MAKE laws, it's supposed to stop BAD laws. Of course, that doesn't sit well with the "government is the be all, end all of human happiness" crowd.

352 I have a fantasy about becoming Queen of the US and stripping away all the tangles in our legal system and replacing it with a straightforward, elegant, common-sense, concise code. Other times, I fantasize about what I would do with lottery winnings.

353 Thought for one of the running convo threads: How enthusiastic would you be to interfere in the civil war of a nuclear power? It's not exactly familiar territory. Certainly a wrinkle that wasn't present previously. Might be a factor to consider when wargaming the possibles.

354 Posted by: Mindy
....
It's called anarchy - which, as far as guns go, most morons seems to support.

355 I actually find 8 perfectly usable - if you adopted the XP/Vista/7 power user strategy of hitting the windows key and starting to type the name of what you wanted to do, that works equally well in 8.  Otherwise there's third-party add-ons to give you the start menu back.

356 http://tinyurl.com/cln45b3 Emil Kapaun, who ministered to Korean War POWs, to receive posthumous medal

357 I will not comply not will I ever allow my effort to be used to enslave this nation.

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 11, 2013 11:31 AM (LRFds)

We're just mashing theories around here, so of course I'm not questioning anyone's resolve, just how I predict a fracturing of the United States to play out on the world stage. 

The only strange comfort would be that so many other countries would follow after us. 

358 Today though, I witnessed ineptitude at such a level I was convinced the earth would open up at my feet and engulf us both in firey doom and magma-covered burney stuff. Spill it or it didn't happen.

359 All we need is an equal footing in the meme spreading department and to cut off the artificial support for bad ideas from the Fed Gov, and the problem will slowly resolve itself.

Just introduce reality to the population, and the bad actors will wither on the vine with no need for any overt action to deal with them.


Fuck that shit.  Too much work for little gain.

Wall them off and keep them from crossing over.

360 The only way a right can be taken away is individually in a court of law.

Any other regulation or rule must step wide of infringement. (it's infringed and not abridged)

Any claim of infringement should be adjudicated on an emergency basis with a fast track for appeals and final disposition.

361 Fuck you GOP sellouts.

I am backing democrats against you not primary opponents...

let those assholes names' carry theb ill for what is done not my party's.

Wild Elephant 2014

68 fucking yeas...

68 FUCKING yeas FUCK YOU SENATE GOP

362 Until we can effectively communicate the condition of the Republic to the citizens, we will be unable to affect much change to revert to a more productive and viable society. Communications is the key. And the Left has always known that. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 11, 2013 11:26 AM (Kpn/z) Exactly. If we can't get equal footing in the communications department, we can't win. If we CAN get equal footing, we will obliterate them.

363 Cloture motion passes 68-31.

364 IMO - how you know you are ready for revolution is if you can read up on Timothy McVeigh and say yep, the feds had that one coming, due to Wako. Just my opinion.

365 IMO a PolySci degree is about as useless as a "(Insert ethnic/gender identity) Studies" degree.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at April 11, 2013 11:26 AM (yh0zB)

 

No argument here, I'm of the opinion that any degree ending in 'Science' involves anything but, and any degree ending in 'Studies' means the degree requires none to receive it.

366 @jamiedupree Senate votes 68-31 [to invoke cloture]

367 Is there a fix for those who like the appearance of Windows XP?

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 11, 2013 .......Not sure about XP. The one I had done basically makes it look and function (not completely) like Windows 7. I'm sure eventually I would get used to it. But the main problem for me is interfacing with other companies I work for, they haven't figured out "fixes" yet to function from their OS.

368 I was wondering what the absolute minimum gun laws should be.

Posted by: Mindy is about to be provoked into hosting a potluck at April 11, 2013 11:29 AM (wk9P4)

"shall not be infringed" seems pretty absolute to me. What about crazy people and criminals? Well, we're doing such a great job with all the laws we have now keeping guns out of their hands...

There are no reasonable restrictions on Constitutionally protected rights. Note the period at the end of that statement.

369 Manchin/Toomey will be the first amendment.

370 "Also not to be a dick, but I think you strongly overestimate the chances of some red states holding off the army of a superpower. "

What superpower would that be? The one without the means of even crossing the Taiwan strait?

The one with its seaborne hardware rotting at the dock?

Posted by: Jaws at April 11, 2013 11:33 AM (4I3Uo)

I realize the US army is peerless on the world stage, that doesn't mean no one else can operate successfully outside of their borders if the US imploded.

371 I have a Political Science degree from a 'top' university and never even heard of The Federalist until years after I'd graduated. Posted by: mugiwara at April 11, 2013 11:23 AM (W7ffl) We need to support Texas' $10,000.00 degree program. More online schooling being accepted translates to fewer Liberal State Employees spreading their communist message. We need to attack the University system of learning and bring down it's socialist members financially.

372 nood up

373

344 -

 

The word is "infringed," but yeah, same difference. 

 

It's a good question, and we clearly have courts that have decided these rights CAN be infringed, so the question that remains, and I hate being so dramatic about it, but how far are we willing to allow the infringement to go on before we're ready to take up said arms in defense of our liberties?

 

All I know is we obviously haven't gotten there yet. 

374 Is there a fix for those who like the appearance of Windows XP?
Posted by: Serious Cat
...........
Get "Classic Shell". (FREE) It installs on windows 8 and gives you a "Start" button on the desktop like you are used to.  All the "explorer" screens can be customized to look like XP (or win 7 or Vista) as well.

375 Windows 8 blamed for biggest PC shipment plunge ever Because Windows 8 SUCKS

376 352 jaws,

I'd bet you a quadrillion dollars China could get sealift enough to take California....

the United States is lucky the people who have studied the WW2 Lognet are not evil enough to contract out with a roice tag how much it would cost to run a tier one expeditionary war....

China could probably take the US with a 20 year "sven ran" program....

377 So can we get a pre-emptive Hell No from the GOP House, or are we going to have to go through this whole process in the media again? Pretty sick of the topic being discussed by idiots.

378 Can't have a few Senators spoiling things, Reid? Are you effing serious!? It's the Senate, not the House! There is no majority rule in the Senate. If one Senator doesn't like something he can place an anonymous hold on it. Kinda like how somebody on your side is blocking the recognition of Lady Thatcher! I need a drink.

379 So, exactly why is NoKo threatening war against SoKo? It appears that they are having a unilateral tantrum.

380 "shall not be infringed" Posted by: Mindy is about to be provoked into hosting a potluck at April 11, 2013 11:29 AM (wk9P4) Oops! Sorry!

381 abridged, a·bridg·ing, a·bridg·es. 1. To reduce the length of (a written text); condense. 2. To cut short; curtail. See Synonyms at shorten.

Infringe: Act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on: "infringe on his privacy".

Not they're not the same difference.

keep in mind that words usually have a defined meaning and that meaning must be strictly applied.

"no loose shit" as it were.

382 Fuck that shit. Too much work for little gain. Wall them off and keep them from crossing over. Posted by: EC at April 11, 2013 11:34 AM (GQ8sn) If you think such a thing is simple or easy then I think you underestimate the problem. One thing i've learned in life is that usually something worthwhile is going to require work, and if it looks easy, you are generally overlooking something.

383 I am getting the feeling that is only a matter of time before we have to go all ”When in the Course of human events” on the current .gov. They aren't going to stop trying to make us serfs.

384 It's called anarchy - which, as far as guns go, most morons seems to support. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 11, 2013 11:33 AM (f9c2L) Anarchy would be no laws. I'm pondering about what the minimum laws should be.

385 I am backing democrats against you not primary opponents... let those assholes names' carry theb ill for what is done not my party's. Wild Elephant 2014 68 fucking yeas... 68 FUCKING yeas FUCK YOU SENATE GOP Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 11, 2013 11:35 AM (LRFds) Regarding this idea, there is much merit. If we cannot chop the heads off of our traitors, then we are powerless and will remain so.

386 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 11, 2013 11:41 AM (Kpn/z) Please see correction at 382. The voices in my head have poor diction, so the words came out wrong.

387 Spill it or it didn't happen.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 11, 2013 11:34 AM (GFM2b)

We have a guy whose position is CIO of the OIG.  He's been sent on 'temporary duty' for the past five months due to multiple charges of harassment, abuse of power, and general conduct unbecoming.

Today, he popped in for a vist 'to see how things were going without [him]' and called a meeting.  (First, deposed leaders can call meetings?)

In this meeting he tried to explain why he has an open door policy.  In his explanation, he said the following:

"In my experience, when men come into my office with problems, they either have a solution in mind, or are looking to me to provide one.  When women come into my office, it's just to vent."

The world stopped turning on its axis, and I pondered the fallout from such a blatantly sexist comment from a person ALREADY in a shit-ton of trouble.

Then, the HR Director guy next to me says, clear as day, and to the room as a whole:  "Yeah, I notice that a lot, too.  It's frustrating."

388 @jamiedupree Senate votes 68-31 [to invoke cloture] Posted by: 80sBaby at April 11, 2013 11:36 AM (YjDyJ) Think I read here that the cloture vote is doubly irresponsible since the bill considered under the cloture is a shell game bill for the actual bill to be introduced later. In other words, all these R traitors don't have an effing clue as to what the eventual bill will say legislatively, but they voted to consider it anyway. I wonder how many czars and IRS agents will be required in the 20,000 pages of new regulations I expect to magically appear related to gun control. I wouldn't be surprised to find that an exception to background checks will be in the bill for former and present Congress person's etc. Another little detail our RINO traitors haven't noted is that with automated background checks, the IRS will know how many guns you have (legally) and can easily assess taxes on your Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Since it will be ruled a tax by CJSC Roberts it will be legal!!

389 Sorry. Tragic and stupid as the vote today was, a large enough number of those who are equipped mentally and physically to revolt are not yet ready to risk:

"Our lives, our fortunes, our sacred honor."

390 Posted by: Mindy is about to be provoked into hosting a potluck at April 11, 2013 11:45 AM (wk9P4)

No biggy. I put up the definitions to point out the difference. (a large number of the Founders were lawyers and the rest were learned men so they understood the value and importance of the words they used.)

It was not meant as a critique of you personally.

391 but how far are we willing to allow the infringement to go on before we're ready to take up said arms in defense of our liberties? All I know is we obviously haven't gotten there yet. Posted by: BurtTC at April 11, 2013 11:38 AM (TOk1P) The thought of violence terrifies me. But persuasion attempts don't seem to be working. Too many people are immune to logic (logic is suppressed in our culture/education system) and our megaphones aren't as loud and ubiquitous as the Left's.

392 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 11, 2013 11:49 AM (Kpn/z) I agree that it is necessary to use words precisely, in fact, that is another vital skill that is declining in our culture. I'm just personally a little fuzzy-headed today. I should probably just step away from the keyboard.

393 but how far are we willing to allow the infringement to go on before we're ready to take up said arms in defense of our liberties? ---- I assume the vast majority will goose step right down the line to a state of being North Korea.

394 The comments in the nood post are seriously FUBAR'd.

395 Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 11, 2013 11:45 AM (fwARV) This will be a small world if you answer in the affirmative - does this guy drive a jeep?

396

Its stuffy in here.  Did you have to stuff the barrel full of smelly, sweat stained jock straps?!

 

Oh, wait....

397 I once again could not sleep on tuesday night.

Bayer Night Time, puts me down like a .45ACP to the head.  Aspirin is a good thing for old dudes, right?

398 I wonder what Pat Toomey is going to do after politics?

Pennsylvania is not as purple as people think.

Nobody is going to forget his treachery.

We need an Exorcist!  He's possessed by Arlen Specter ...   Get it?  Specter....ghost?  never mind.

399 polynikes: "Bill Ayers" How many crackers did Master toss to you before you were able to chirp "Bill Ayers"? Christ. Knuckleheads is dumb.

400 This will be a small world if you answer in the affirmative - does this guy drive a jeep?

Posted by: RWC at April 11, 2013 11:56 AM (fWAjv)

I really don't know... I could find out.