July 06, 2013
— Open Blogger Traditionally, the imperatives of rock and roll music have been: indulge your desires, lose your inhibitions, take off your clothes, do what feels good, don't pay any attention to what parents, ministers or other authority figures tell you, they just want to stop you from having fun, etc.
Especially the taking off your clothes part. It's another method that men use to coax women into getting naked.
All of this is, of course, civilizationally unsustainable, and there's a price to be paid for this nonsense. And occasionally, the reality of this breaks through the dense cloud of fog such lifestyles tend to produce and there's a little pushback, not much, but it's definitely there.
Here's an early entry into this pushback category, the old anti-drug classic from Paul Revere and the Raiders:
More examples below the fold: They used to call it "women's lib" back in the day. But whatever the name, The Kinks give it a big "F.U." in the song 'Two Sisters':
Some of the next-gen rockers were raised by first-gen hippies and so they're not so enthusiastic about some of the consequences of the actions of their self-indulgent parents. Like divorce:
Here's a Ben Folds Five number about driving your girlfriend to the abortion clinic. Not a happy song:
Finally, a surprising song about sexual purity and waiting for marriage, by the Georgia Satellites:
There are other examples of pushback out there. Which ones are your favorites?
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Posted by: Village People at July 06, 2013 09:11 AM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Somewhat Sorry To Offend You at July 06, 2013 09:11 AM (n50fF)
Posted by: Somewhat Sorry To Offend You at July 06, 2013 09:14 AM (n50fF)
Posted by: Vlad the Upholsterer at July 06, 2013 09:15 AM (ypFNL)
Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at July 06, 2013 09:17 AM (omBWL)
"God damn the pusher man"
Steppenwolf: Pusherman
Posted by: pep at July 06, 2013 09:18 AM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Somewhat Sorry To Offend You at July 06, 2013 09:18 AM (n50fF)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 09:18 AM (4Mv1T)
apples and oranges; gibbons and baboons
Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at July 06, 2013 09:19 AM (omBWL)
Posted by: azkag at July 06, 2013 09:19 AM (K8RM3)
Posted by: Lady Billingsgate (of the North) at July 06, 2013 09:19 AM (9D6cl)
Posted by: GGE on his Droid at July 06, 2013 09:20 AM (u5aok)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at July 06, 2013 09:21 AM (0It32)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 09:22 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 09:22 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at July 06, 2013 09:22 AM (YxaXw)
Posted by: Lady Billingsgate (of the North) at July 06, 2013 01:19 PM (9D6cl)
see previous posts
Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at July 06, 2013 09:23 AM (omBWL)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 09:23 AM (wR+pz)
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Bummer. Big turn out. Some of the lower lot had construction equipment parked there so they used that lot, and the back lot. Got a drizzle about 10AM, which buttoned up all the rag tops.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 09:24 AM (4Mv1T)
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It is the weirdest weather I can remember for this time of year.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 09:25 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 06, 2013 09:25 AM (Cnqmv)
memories; they're all that's left you.......
Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at July 06, 2013 09:25 AM (omBWL)
less a pushback song as a swift kick to the groin of occupier groupthink.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at July 06, 2013 09:25 AM (pgQxn)
Posted by: azkag at July 06, 2013 09:26 AM (K8RM3)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 06, 2013 09:26 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Waterhouse at July 06, 2013 09:27 AM (2wvIK)
Posted by: Scott555 at July 06, 2013 09:27 AM (ukXdx)
Posted by: Gran at July 06, 2013 09:27 AM (0pcT0)
>>Evil White Man" by Hindu Rodeo falls into this category.
Plus, one of the great unknown great pop albums.
Posted by: Somewhat Sorry To Offend You at July 06, 2013 01:10 PM (n50fF)<<
Hmmm...being a musician and self-proclaimed pop/rock musical literate, I have to ashamedly admit to not knowing these guys.
Bing...here I comes!!
Posted by: Albie Damned at July 06, 2013 09:27 AM (Yhu4q)
But the fate of their baby is many times worse
...
Stay away from the cities, stay away from the towns
Stay away from the men pushin' the codine around'
-Donovan
Now there's some irony, since I'm being dosed with the stuff as we speak.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 09:28 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2013 09:29 AM (WX3R9)
http://youtu.be/7MHSI_Z1MWw
Stop right there! I gotta know right now
Before we go any further do you love me?
Will you love me forever? Do you need me?
Will you never leave me?
Will you make me so happy for the rest of my life?
Will you take me away and will you make me your wife?
...
Lord, I was crazed
And when the feeling came upon me like a tidal wave
I started swearing to my God and on my mother's grave
That I would love you to the end of time
I swore that I would love you to the end of time
So now I'm praying for the end of time
To hurry up and arrive
'Cause if I gotta spend another minute with you
I don't think that I can really survive
I'll never break my promise or forget my vow
But God only knows what I can do right now
I'm praying for the end of time, It's all that I can do
Praying for the end of time so I can end my time with you
It was long ago and it was far away
And it was so much better that it is today
Posted by: Jose at July 06, 2013 09:29 AM (zc/sw)
Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 09:29 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at July 06, 2013 09:29 AM (omBWL)
Posted by: Fritz (Not Fritz) at July 06, 2013 09:30 AM (U0t2o)
http://tinyurl.com/lymj99v
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal
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So if "Regular sex can make you look 7 years younger"
What will the, er, weird stuff do for ya?
Posted by: Tobacco Road at July 06, 2013 09:31 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 09:32 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Patricia at July 06, 2013 09:32 AM (zEre5)
Posted by: lowandslow at July 06, 2013 09:32 AM (Fz2C7)
"I'm an Adult Now" by Pursuit of Happiness
Well, I don't hate my parents
I don't get drunk just to spite them
I've got my own reasons to drink now
Think I'll call my dad up and invite him
I can sleep in till noon anytime I want
Though there's not many days that I do
Gotta get up and take on that world
When your an adult it's no cliche it's the truth
Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2013 09:33 AM (2mSdf)
Posted by: Somewhat Sorry To Offend You at July 06, 2013 09:33 AM (n50fF)
Posted by: Brian in BC at July 06, 2013 09:33 AM (3lxx0)
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 06, 2013 09:33 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Patrick at July 06, 2013 09:35 AM (b6koZ)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 06, 2013 09:36 AM (YSkup)
Posted by: BishopWash[/i] at July 06, 2013 09:36 AM (hoE/G)
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Quite likely.....,
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 06, 2013 09:37 AM (aDwsi)
He doubled down on that message years later when singing for Public Image Ltd int he song The Body: http://tinyurl.com/l47shbo
Posted by: Brisco_County at July 06, 2013 09:38 AM (B0Zzk)
Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 09:38 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: lowandslow at July 06, 2013 09:39 AM (Fz2C7)
Posted by: wooga at July 06, 2013 09:43 AM (Dioux)
Posted by: troyriser at July 06, 2013 09:48 AM (ptcFO)
Posted by: Patrick at July 06, 2013 09:49 AM (b6koZ)
You never thought you'd get addicted, just be cooler in an obvious way
I could say, shouldn't you have got a couple piercings and decided maybe that you were gay,
In a way, I can't help but feel responsible, I always knew that you were insane
With your pain, but I never thought you'd be a junkie because heroin is so passe, hey.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2013 09:50 AM (2mSdf)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 06, 2013 09:51 AM (YSkup)
Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 09:53 AM (sdi6R)
"Sic Transit Gloria - Glory Fades" pushed back on the notion that guys were just out to have sex and their virginity wasn't important to them.
"Jesus Christ" covers the difficulty of living in the world without being of the world.
Manchester Orchestra is another band that pushes back in a couple of ways. Their album "Simple Math" (and specifically the track of the same name) deals with the dangers and pitfalls of adultery.
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at July 06, 2013 09:54 AM (/B8eZ)
Posted by: Pat at July 06, 2013 09:55 AM (jxUUx)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 06, 2013 09:55 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2013 09:56 AM (2mSdf)
Posted by: JohnKerryIsADoucheBag at July 06, 2013 09:56 AM (6sqK6)
Posted by: CAC at July 06, 2013 09:57 AM (DBwdm)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 06, 2013 09:58 AM (YSkup)
>.At the time I had no set opinion on abortion one way or the other. After that, I tried not to think about it at all. It's only now, in middle age and after I've found faith, that I've began speaking and writing against it whenever the topic comes up.
Wow. Thank you for sharing that.
Posted by: Mama AJ at July 06, 2013 09:58 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at July 06, 2013 09:59 AM (Pxfdl)
Posted by: Patrick at July 06, 2013 09:59 AM (b6koZ)
Posted by: eman at July 06, 2013 09:59 AM (AO9UG)
Would the Who's Pictures of Lilly count? Either pro or anti wanking you could call it pushback.
Heh.
Posted by: flashbazzbo at July 06, 2013 10:00 AM (i0rVe)
Posted by: Patrick at July 06, 2013 10:01 AM (b6koZ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 06, 2013 10:01 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Eaton Cox at July 06, 2013 10:02 AM (q177U)
Voice of the Beehive - I Say Nothing
It got censored by BBC Radio and Youtube only seems to have that version.
Posted by: epobirs at July 06, 2013 10:03 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 10:04 AM (ZPrif)
As mentioned above, "Bodies" by the Sex Pistols. In fact, ironically, much of the really early punk in the UK was "anti-establishment," the establishment being Labour. There was OBVIOUSLY a lot of leftist/Marxist stuff mixed in, but those little fools would stumble on some truth occasionally.
I'd also say Cock Sparrer, with songs like "Get a Rope" ("We're sick and tired of you're liberal views/What's politically correct/Come judgment day I'll be tying the noose/And slippin' it around your neck"). Plus, probably the single greatest Oi! band of all time.
REALLY early Dropkick Murphys, before they were co-opted. The song "Front Seat" comes to mind ("We'll take the front seat, asshole/Liberal scum, to the back!"). In fact, several years ago, they were on tour with the morons in Anti-Flag who left the tour and talked smack about Dropkick and their "fascist conservative fans" (THERE'S an oxymoron!). Ken Casey took to the internet to smack 'em down pretty hard as absolute poseurs, and even emailed me, when I wrote him about it, saying something along the lines of "as far as I know, there's nothing inherently wrong about being conservative. We all have our own opinions, doesn't make anyone more or less bad." Of course, since then, they've gone off the deep end (as has the original lead singer who is now in Street Dogs, if they're even still playing).
Street Dogs, even, on their first album, had a song slamming celebrities called "Don't Preach to Me," telling Madonna to "hit the road," etc. But, again, right down the ol' black hole.
Keeping with Boston punk, there was also the second album, *Dark Days*, by the Ducky Boys that had "No Tales to Tell," with lines like what the hell "happened to a simple family life/When a woman had a husband and he dare called her his wife." But, once more, the lead singer bought into the whole Bushitler/anti-Iraq war crap, and went down the leftist loony whirlpool.
Posted by: Patrick at July 06, 2013 10:05 AM (LrlHu)
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 06, 2013 10:05 AM (Vjplh)
It's kinda pushback.
Posted by: eman at July 06, 2013 02:02 PM (AO9UG)
36-24-36? Yeah, only if you 5'3".
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at July 06, 2013 10:05 AM (/B8eZ)
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 06, 2013 10:05 AM (BAS5M)
There was a shopping mall
Now it's all covered with flowers
you've got it, you've got it
If this is paradise
I wish I had a lawnmower
David Byrne was born and raised a city boy with all the conveniences that go along with it.
Posted by: flashbazzbo at July 06, 2013 10:07 AM (i0rVe)
Posted by: Shannow at July 06, 2013 02:01 PM (P94Pt)
Yeah, I thought of this one too. I can't think of any other song that took a position like that, and it was especially surprising coming from that time period.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 06, 2013 10:07 AM (Vjplh)
Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 10:07 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Patrick at July 06, 2013 10:07 AM (LrlHu)
Posted by: Grim at July 06, 2013 10:08 AM (FB6BF)
Mongrels, who ain't got a penny, sniffing for tidbits like you-
On the ground.
So Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, where the dogs of society howl.
You can't plant me in a penthouse.
I'm going back to my plow."
Posted by: flashbazzbo at July 06, 2013 10:11 AM (i0rVe)
Posted by: Terminus Vex at July 06, 2013 10:11 AM (s7gZZ)
Posted by: Patrick at July 06, 2013 10:12 AM (b6koZ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 06, 2013 10:13 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Lizzy at July 06, 2013 10:14 AM (2mSdf)
I always had the impression that one was a reaction to the enviro-extremists who want to dismantle civilization.
Posted by: epobirs at July 06, 2013 10:14 AM (kcfmt)
Yeah, I think everyone and his dog had an anti cold war song back then.
Posted by: Shannow at July 06, 2013 10:14 AM (P94Pt)
Posted by: eman at July 06, 2013 10:14 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: LadyS at July 06, 2013 10:17 AM (0zpQW)
Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 02:07 PM (sdi6R)
Maybe, but I heard him sing it later in life and you could hear the regret for the damage it did to him and his kith. That whole lifestyle got slammed pretty hard.
I'll pull that one and replace it with DOA by Bloodrock.
Posted by: flashbazzbo at July 06, 2013 10:17 AM (i0rVe)
Hand of Doom by Black Sabbath is explicitly anti-heroin (though "sweet leaf" is pro-cannabis):
"Push the needle in, face death's sickly grin / Holes are in your skin, caused by deadly pin"
Suicide Solution by Ozzy Osbource (post Sabbath) is explicitly anti-alcohol.
"Wine is fine/ But whiskey's quicker/ suicide is slow with liquor"
"Now you live inside a bottle/ The reaper's traveling full throttle/ It's catching you but you don't see", etc.
Ironically Osbourne and Sabbath caught a lot of heat from groups that completely missed the point of both songs.
Even Guns and Roses, pretty much the epitome of self-destructive rock-n-roll behavior had an anti-heroin song, Mr. Brownstone:
We been dancin' with Mr. Brownstone He's been knockin' He won't leave me alone No, no ,no, he won't leave me alone I used ta do a little but a little wouldn't do So the little got more and more
Shoved it in the bindle and I shot it in the middle And it, it drove outta my mind I should've known better, said I wish I never met her
Posted by: looking closely at July 06, 2013 10:18 AM (eO8aI)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 10:18 AM (hciUg)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2013 01:29 PM (WX3R9)
Someone once said, a first album is 10 years in preparation. If it's a hit, the second is a rush job and rarely comes close to the first.
Posted by: real joe at July 06, 2013 10:20 AM (ABXpz)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 06, 2013 10:22 AM (aH+zP)
Posted by: RWC at July 06, 2013 10:23 AM (8FeS+)
Posted by: mike at July 06, 2013 10:23 AM (Vd0Sa)
Hit That- mocks the hook up culture
Posted by: Rip van winkin at the 80s at July 06, 2013 10:23 AM (WVMUQ)
"Old Cody Jr. took me over,
Said you're gonna find the world is smolderin;
If you get lost, come back home to Green River."
Posted by: flashbazzbo at July 06, 2013 10:24 AM (i0rVe)
Posted by: epobirs at July 06, 2013 10:25 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 10:25 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Patrick at July 06, 2013 02:12 PM (b6koZ)
Alternately, there's also "Full Blown AIDS" by Stephen Lynch, allegedly the most offensive song ever.
Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at July 06, 2013 10:25 AM (aozUR)
Rush are hardcore libertarians, and in this case, yeah it probably was intended to be. They have a lot of libertarian/conservative thought snuck into their albums.
Not sure how it fits into this theme of "pushback", but I always liked their song "Cold Fire" (from 1996 Counterpoints album) as a pretty snarky critique on modern relationships:
It was long after midnight when we got to unconditional love She said, "Sure, my heart is boundless but don't push my limits too far" I said, "If love is so transcendent I don't understand these boundaries" She said, "Just don't disappoint me you know how complex women are"
It was just before sunrise when we started on traditional roles She said, "Sure, I'll be your partner but don't make too many demands" I said, "If love has these conditions I don't understand those songs you love" She said, "This is not a love song, this isn't fantasy land"
I'll be around if you don't push me down too far I'll be around if you don't push me down
Posted by: looking closely at July 06, 2013 10:26 AM (eO8aI)
Posted by: angel with a sword at July 06, 2013 10:27 AM (2y8mE)
Posted by: BuddyPC at July 06, 2013 10:28 AM (jfUIE)
Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 10:28 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 06, 2013 10:28 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: BuddyPC at July 06, 2013 10:28 AM (jfUIE)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 10:28 AM (hciUg)
I think the whole genre of 'Christian Rock' could be characterized as pushback.
'Christian Rap' exists as well...but isn't as big as Christian Rock.
Posted by: wheatie at July 06, 2013 10:29 AM (XWSNs)
If "Holiday in Cambodia" was based on Kerry's tall tales, pretty soon Jello Biafra's gonna have to rewrite every song he's ever written.
Posted by: Oschisms at July 06, 2013 10:31 AM (pfVS8)
Posted by: BuddyPC at July 06, 2013 10:32 AM (jfUIE)
I think you can be a leftist and still view the ELF types as the lunatics they are.
If you look at the official video for the song, it keeps popping up little factoids as if they needed to wrap themselves in protective armor against those who might take offense.
I've never forgiven Byrne for his bullshit in 2008. The man has lived in the US since he was a child and never bothered to become a citizen. Then, in he send out a whine to fans on his mail list that they all have to vote for Obama because he can't.
Could never be bothered to become a citizen of the nation he has lived in for almost fifty years but thinks it's unfair that he doesn't get a vote.
Posted by: epobirs at July 06, 2013 10:34 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: angel with a sword at July 06, 2013 10:35 AM (2y8mE)
Posted by: Chris at July 06, 2013 10:37 AM (Cvb0J)
Posted by: Eaton Cox at July 06, 2013 10:38 AM (q177U)
time to get a gunPosted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 06, 2013 02:28 PM (8JJ6O)
Written by Fred eaglesmith. A great Canadian songwriter who is so retro he took his farm in Ontario off the electric grid. he has mabny songs to fit this theme.
Sweaburg General Store:
"You could wake him up if your tank was on empty
They wouldn't be happy, but they'd fill it up anyway
I guess that's just the way things go
The Sweaburg General Store is closed"
Posted by: flashbazzbo at July 06, 2013 10:38 AM (i0rVe)
"Father of Mine" by Everclear. It's one of my favorite songs about being a real Man in a world full of boys. Looking back I think my Dad did his best, I'll give him that.
Father of mine
Tell me where have you been
You know I just closed my eyes
My whole world disappeared
Father of mine
Take me back to the day
Yeah when I was still your golden boy
Back before you went away
I remember blue skies
Walking the block
I loved it when you held me high
I loved TO HEAR YOU TALK
You would take me to the movie
You would take me to the beach
You would take me to a place inside
That's so hard to reach
Oh
Father of mine
Tell me where did you go
Yeah you had the world inside your hand
But you did not seem to know
Father of mine
Tell me what do you see
When you look back at your wasted life
And you don't see me
I was ten years old
Doing all that I could
It wasn't easy for me
To be a scared white boy
In a black neighborhood
Sometimes you would send me a birthday card
With a five dollar bill
I never understood you then
And I guess I never will
Daddy gave me a name
My daddy gave me a name
Then he walked away
Daddy gave me a name
Then he walked away
My daddy gave me a name
Oh yeah
Oh yeah
Daddy gave me a name
Daddy gave me a name
Then he walked away
Daddy gave me a name
Then he walked away
My daddy gave me a name
Yeah
Yeah
Oh yeah
Father of mine
Tell me where have you been
Yea I just closed my eyes
And the world disappeared
Father of mine
Tell me how do you sleep
With the children you abandoned
And the wife I saw you beat
I will never be safe
I will never be sane
I will always be weird inside
I will always be lame
Now that I'm a grown man
With a child of my own
And I swear I'll never let her know
All the pain I have known
Then he walked away
Daddy gave me a name
Then he walked away
My daddy gave me a name
Then he walked away
My daddy gave me a name
Then he walked away
My daddy gave me a name
Then he walked away (yeah)
Then he walked away (yeah)
Then he walked away (oh yeah)
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at July 06, 2013 10:38 AM (Yx4EH)
Posted by: Mr. Naron at July 06, 2013 10:39 AM (or0yK)
Posted by: Eton Cox at July 06, 2013 10:39 AM (q177U)
http://youtu.be/tDl3bdE3YQA
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 10:40 AM (hciUg)
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at July 06, 2013 10:41 AM (Yx4EH)
Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say
If they knew you believe in God above?
They should realize before they criticize
that God is the only way to love
Is your mind so small that you have to fall
In with the pack wherever they run
Will you still sneer when death is near
And say they may as well worship the sun?
Posted by: Middle Aged Metal Head at July 06, 2013 10:43 AM (uPbpg)
Posted by: lowandslow at July 06, 2013 10:44 AM (Fz2C7)
Read the lyrics. Posted by: BuddyPC at July 06, 2013 02:28 PM
Cancelled out by the ever so shitty "Imagine".
Posted by: huerfano at July 06, 2013 10:46 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: zombie at July 06, 2013 10:46 AM (+cx5n)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 06, 2013 10:48 AM (57bzg)
Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 10:48 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at July 06, 2013 10:51 AM (5YUSx)
Posted by: Chique d'afrique at July 06, 2013 10:52 AM (r+7wo)
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/juice-newton/angel-of-the-morning.html
I wanted to refresh my memory of the lyrics but found some surprising trivia, too.
Posted by: epobirs at July 06, 2013 10:52 AM (kcfmt)
http://tinyurl.com/nbzpeun
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 10:52 AM (hciUg)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 06, 2013 10:53 AM (X6akg)
BREAKING: The plane on fire at #SFO is a Boeing 777 operated by Asiana Airlines in from Taipei.
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 06, 2013 10:54 AM (X6akg)
(They're my favorite band, by the way)
Posted by: Craig Poe at July 06, 2013 10:54 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 06, 2013 10:54 AM (57bzg)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 06, 2013 10:55 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 06, 2013 02:54 PM (57bzg)
Probably not me but Tammy.
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 06, 2013 10:55 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 06, 2013 10:56 AM (57bzg)
Posted by: obladioblada at July 06, 2013 10:57 AM (w6/EI)
Posted by: A-Hole at July 06, 2013 10:58 AM (ikxXh)
Posted by: eman at July 06, 2013 11:01 AM (AO9UG)
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at July 06, 2013 11:01 AM (Yx4EH)
Fox has some live pics of the plane crash, right now.
They're saying it crashed upon landing...don't know how many people are on board.
It's from S.Korea.
Posted by: wheatie at July 06, 2013 11:02 AM (XWSNs)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 06, 2013 11:02 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 11:06 AM (hciUg)
Should be #1 on your list.
Posted by: zombie at July 06, 2013 02:46 PM (+cx5n)
If I remember right, it was written by Chip Taylor, who also wrote Wild Thing. We used to play the two songs as a single back in the day. The chord arrangement is pretty much the same.
Chip Taylor teamed up with Carrie Roderigues later on and had a song that fits this theme called "Say It In English".
Posted by: flashbazzbo at July 06, 2013 11:06 AM (i0rVe)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 06, 2013 11:06 AM (5J54Q)
http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/local/boeing-777-crashes-while-landing-sfo/nYfcx/
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 11:06 AM (hciUg)
Posted by: A-Hole at July 06, 2013 11:07 AM (ikxXh)
Posted by: Juan McShame at July 06, 2013 11:07 AM (Aif/5)
that's right...geometric logic we need to cut aid to Egypt to increase aid and presence in Syria....I'm John McCain McCain McCain McCain....
//Juan Queeg esq
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 11:07 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 11:07 AM (hciUg)
Posted by: Craig Poe at July 06, 2013 11:09 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Chris M at July 06, 2013 11:10 AM (4lyMJ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 06, 2013 11:11 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 11:12 AM (hciUg)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 11:13 AM (hciUg)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 06, 2013 11:13 AM (57bzg)
Posted by: Patrick at July 06, 2013 11:14 AM (b6koZ)
Anna, look at the picture--that plane is upright, both exit doors are open and slides are deployed.
It looks as though (from a distance) as if the landing gear is retracted. But no tail assembly is visible.
More in depth reporting showing up?
Posted by: irongrampa at July 06, 2013 11:14 AM (SAMxH)
Which is pandering, I'm not saying it's wrong, more power to them. But let's not pretend these songs are stepping out of some safe zone to push a counter message.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 06, 2013 11:15 AM (Fz2C7)
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 06, 2013 11:16 AM (tlhtD)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
More likely he's become a devote Statist; the more power allocated to the central government, the better. You don't have to theoretically hate America to be a Statist. You just have to love the idea of your class and cohort becoming more and more powerful with every bit of legislation and money dispensed.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at July 06, 2013 11:16 AM (xvZYu)
http://tinyurl.com/lcqezun
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 06, 2013 11:18 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Patrick at July 06, 2013 11:19 AM (b6koZ)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at July 06, 2013 11:19 AM (V3kRK)
Posted by: MiloX at July 06, 2013 11:21 AM (J9HoK)
Posted by: PrincetonAl at July 06, 2013 11:22 AM (q3d+Y)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 11:22 AM (hciUg)
Posted by: Cobalt Shiva at July 06, 2013 11:24 AM (OY/SZ)
hard telling what happened, ideally everyone lives and it is just a financial loss...
for the plane not to be more damaged tells me it had to have been within a narrow window of failure...
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 11:25 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 11:26 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 11:27 AM (hciUg)
Styx and Dennis DeYoung, talk about ear poison. I think I'd rather listen to 4 Non Blondes.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 06, 2013 11:28 AM (Fz2C7)
Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 11:29 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 11:30 AM (hciUg)
one engine sheared off, I'm thinking as clean as that back shear looks the tail bulkhead either failed or they had a bad landing and impact forces sheared the bulkhead...
3 feet or so of foam, roof burned out...
if no passengers or crew died it is a miracle.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 11:32 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 11:33 AM (sdi6R)
the live feed just panned around the plane and the shear looks surgical, entire passenger cabin has a burnt roof...
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 11:33 AM (LRFds)
Alternately, there's also "Full Blown AIDS" by Stephen Lynch, allegedly the most offensive song ever.
Stephen Lynch has a monopoly on the offensive song market.
The Gerbil Song
Special Olympics
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 06, 2013 11:33 AM (0IhFx)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 11:34 AM (hciUg)
I stand corrected last 1/3d of the passenger cabin roof did not burn out
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 11:35 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: flashbazzbo at July 06, 2013 11:36 AM (i0rVe)
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 11:36 AM (LRFds)
they're looking dejected...I will be shocked if everyone lived as some initial reports indicate.
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 06, 2013 11:37 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at July 06, 2013 11:38 AM (nWBvT)
http://tinyurl.com/m56d92n
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 11:38 AM (hciUg)
Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 11:40 AM (sdi6R)
It looks like the aft bulkhead blew and that caused the tail to fail. Look where the vertical and horizontal surfaces fell.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 06, 2013 11:42 AM (hciUg)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at July 06, 2013 11:42 AM (nWBvT)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 06, 2013 11:42 AM (57bzg)
Drudge is showing a pic of what looks like a 747 though.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at July 06, 2013 11:43 AM (0IhFx)
Posted by: kbdabear at July 06, 2013 11:43 AM (/9IC1)
Posted by: rickl at July 06, 2013 11:44 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: PrincetonAl at July 06, 2013 11:51 AM (q3d+Y)
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Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 06, 2013 11:55 AM (fiwwQ)
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Posted by: georgeofthedesert at July 06, 2013 12:38 PM (Eq2MX)
Posted by: OCBill at July 06, 2013 12:40 PM (VCCXE)
Pappa Was a Rolling Stone - The Temptations
Love Child - The Supremes
Only Women Bleed - Alice Cooper
Comfortably Numb - Pink Floyd
Shooting Star - Bad Company
I'm Still Alive - Pearl Jam
Jane Says - Jane's Addiction
Semi-Charmed Life - Third Eye Blind
Posted by: Dr Tar at July 06, 2013 01:03 PM (BrHXv)
Probably the harshest most moving song on addiction is
Hurt - Nine Inch Nail
Johnny Cash really took the song and made it his own.
Posted by: Dr Tar at July 06, 2013 01:09 PM (BrHXv)
Posted by: BuddyPC at July 06, 2013 01:35 PM (jfUIE)
Mama told me not to come by Three Dog Night
The No No Song by Ringo Starr
Dirty Laundry by The Eagles
Wango Tango by Ted Nuggent lol
Posted by: knucklehead whats tryin to be funny at July 06, 2013 01:42 PM (N3Al8)
Always the last to get into a good thread...
Along the lines of "Father of Mine", there is "House of Pain" By Faster Pussycat:
"Where were you/Where'd you go?/Daddy can't you tell....
I didn't write these pages/and I ain't the one to blame/
No there's no one home/in my house of pain/
I'm not trying to fake it/and my scripts been rearranged/
No there's no one home/in my house of pain.
One of the few songs (due to a difficult divorce from my first wife) to drive me to tears every time I hear it. Fortunately for me, I was able to reconnect with my son despite his mother's (and her mother's) best efforts.
Posted by: DaveinNC at July 06, 2013 02:12 PM (lom7h)
Posted by: John F Not Kerry (@jfd65) at July 06, 2013 02:18 PM (HF2US)
Granted, they tend to be very insistent in interviews that they are not a political band, but before it became in issue for them they released an album (Fear of a Punk Planet) that contained lines like "It's the gay 90s and you can't watch nothin' good/Mindless pinko garbage is all they make in Hollywood" (Join Us For Pong) and "Don't need a coalition telling me what to do/No pesky pinko ACLU" (Kill My Tenant), and explicitly thanks George Bush, Dan Quayle, and Rush Limbaugh in the liner notes on at least some print runs. Also, last I heard their bassist is now a contributor to conservative website Ricochet.
No overt political advocacy, but songs with conservative themes include "Too Much Drama" (anti-divorce), "My Neck, My Back" (bashing welfare abuse and frivolous lawsuits), "Don't Make Me Get My Fat, Lazy Ass of This Couch" (bashing envy of more successful people), "Sorry, Mom and Dad" (bashing ungrateful young people), A Gun For Christmas (pro-gun, but with a single line bashing irresponsible gun owners), "How Did This Loser Get This Job" (bashes terrible teachers and the unions that defend them, with a one line jab at Pres. Clinton: "I see the President, and I see Lincoln/What the hell was 43% of this place thinkin'"), "Allah" (piss-take on a certain brand of religious terrorism), "Choosing Your Masters "(anti-Rock The Vote). Honorable mentions to "Dig a Hole" (about cultural decline, and containing some of the greatest lyrics ever written) and Kick Me (mocking hero worship of celebrities). Plus they cover a pair of rather conservative folk/country songs ("In America" and "Complain", the latter being from a liberal movie but sung by a conservative character) on their album The Vandals Play Really Bad Original Country Tunes.
Also, on their live album (Sweatin' to the Oldies), they cover a few lines of TSOL's "Superficial Love", and their singer swap's out the line "President Reagan can shove it" for "President Clinton can suck my dick".
Posted by: reform highlander at July 06, 2013 02:33 PM (BCYnA)
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at July 06, 2013 03:19 PM (7v5Ct)
"Kicks" may be pushback, but it's pushback from the inner hallways of the Brill Building. The same songwriting duo that churned it out (for Eric Burdon, who turned it down), produced such other world-changing panegyrics as
We Gotta Get Out of This Place, Nothing Can Change The Shape of Things to Come, and -- stay with me on this -- Blame It On The Bossa Nova.
Now that's weltanschauung. Bay-bee.
Posted by: comatus at July 06, 2013 03:39 PM (JNUY4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83K2QygyI8s
waking up with an 8.2
when it seemed like the easiest thing to do
when someone said "here's one for you!"
mouth's so dried and I just spit ash
in a hole in my pocket full of wasted cash
but it's all right it was just bad stash
"jump inside" he said, "I never met a junkie that I didn't like" said he
and who am I to disagree?
CHORUS:
how can you stay when you're 16 million miles away?
how can you fly when you're (home) free?
and how can you feel when your mind's made up like a will of steel?
how can you deal in your tree?
sick of ecstasy
kicked in bad and you got too low
to be down in a company you don't know
said 'come on in got a right good blow'
yeah, talking, talking the whole world's clear
until a guy with a goatee got a touch of fear
which went round the room like diahorea
bored with this, I'm bored with that
I'm stuck in bed alone with a-you know what
no rest, with a heart beating outta your chest
CHORUS
sick of LSD
CHORUS (x2)
sick of drugs are we
Posted by: Chris at July 06, 2013 03:43 PM (Cvb0J)
Posted by: Ross Lane at July 06, 2013 08:38 PM (DVQyp)
Posted by: Katja at July 06, 2013 11:21 PM (JQoZY)
Well, it's sundown on the union
And what's made in the U.S.A
Sure was a good idea till greed got in the way
Well, the job that you used to have
They gave it to somebody down in El Salvador
The unions are big business, friend and they're goin' out like a dinosaur
Posted by: Kim at July 07, 2013 07:58 AM (ICqvM)
Chances thrown, nothing's free. Longing for, used to be.
Still its hard, hard to see fragile lives, shattered dreams."
The Offspring/ The Kids Aren't Alright.
Posted by: RSBejmls at July 07, 2013 12:13 PM (elcxU)
Revolution No. 9 and Taxman by the Beatles, and Street Fighting Man by the Stones--more political than personal, but damn good
Posted by: MartyJ at July 07, 2013 01:45 PM (8iGNw)
Posted by: Lewis at July 08, 2013 06:55 PM (UB1pV)
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