1
I feel bad about myself for ever doubting our leaders.  Really bad.

2 That should be "rose petals."

Spelling Nazi out.

Cordially...

3 You lost me at "lobbyist".

4 Here's my take.

A conservative is like someone who says, "I like to watch football."
A Republican is like someone who says, "I like to watch the Steelers play football."

The conservative likes to see a game where both teams play well.  The Republican likes to see a game where the Steelers win.

If the Steelers win by massive cheating, the Republican is happy because the Steelers won.  The conservative is unhappy because the game was not played well by the rules, and the game was thus cheapened for a quick victory.

(Substitute whatever team you wish).

5 This post explains perfectly why I am an independent.  Vote 'em ALL out!

6
Big government has been every bit as much good for establishment repubs (and by extension, their beneficiaries like, say, lobbyists) as it has been for libs.

7
I particularly like the "fall in line" rhetoric.  I get that whole Chris Mathews 'leg tingly' thing goin' on.

8

I love self-described “bi-partisan, super lobbyist” John Feehery. If you wanted to create a caricature of the out of touch, self-important, above it all Republican establishment class you’d have to invent him. Thankfully he already exists and he loves to take to the digital pages of The Hill every now and then to remind the rest of us who runs things.

Maroon....

Yes, really....

9 The Whigs would have loved this guy.

10 But when people wonder why I donÂ’t really care if the GOP wins the Senate or even the presidency (get in line and support Chris Christie! Or Jeb Bush!) guys like this are at or near the top of the list. Putting the same people back in power and expecting different results is a foolÂ’s errand. So instead, lets sit at home and let "worse" have the day. I'm a Tea Party guy. I have all the distrust and dislike for the "establishment" that pretty much everyone else here has. But if given the choice between a Democrat and a Republican, I'll take the Republican. I'll take the guy that is at least marginally on my side, as opposed to the one that's dead set against me. I'd like to throw the entire lot of bums out on the street and start over. But that ain't gonna happen. As Drew says, this didn't happen in one cycle, it's not going to get fixed in one cycle. So I'll do what I think is best. In every election, primary or general, I'll vote for the most Conservative guy available. *shrug* You guys do as you see fit. That's the joy of this system...no one HAS to do anything. Your choice.

11 Why won't you silly groundlings simply shush and do as you've been TOLD, for heaven's sake -- ?!?

12 "Fall in line", eh? 


It's remarkable, really, what our New Aristocracy thinks of their foolish serfs.  Why, those serfs should be out earning money to pay for the expansion of the glorious capital city, a worthy testament to the visionaries that dwell within.


It's not even ten o'clock, and I'm ready to rant and rave all day. -.-

13 One slip of the tongue, one off-color joke can end the career of a Democratic politician.

This statement is so hilariously out-of-touch with what happens in the real world that I literally laughed out loud.  No Democrat has ever ended his career save through cutting his own throat (see: Weiner, Anthony). 

14 Could somebody tell this idiot that trust has to be earned?

15 There's no need to fear Super Lobbyist is here.

16 Our elected representatives hold themselves accountable to their financial backers and are hitting the limits of collectivism as they run the country into the ground. All our agencies have been corrupted. There is no trust, nor should there be.

17
This post deserves a musical accompaniment:


http://tinyurl.com/ozpr2w4

18 It's an old idea... Keep the "bewildered herd" placated by offering them a series of false choices... Meanwhile, the people who know better do what they were gonna do anyway. Anyone catch Hillary talking populism.... Then heading over to Goldman Sachs to assure them that she doesn't blame them for the 2008 bubble and collapse?

19 okay but I have one question: WHAT THE FUCK ARE THE REPUBLICAN ' LEADERS' LEADING ON?

20 I see a glorious vision of a House and Senate chamber awash in guys wearing red shirts.

21 Can we offer that boy loving Rove to the Demonrats as a sacrificial offering?

22 Null I prefer my analogy: Conservative: I like to shop for bargains and get my money's worth. Republican: I don't care if I pay more for my purchases, I like the labels even if they are counterfiet.

23 Quick, Robin.  To the RINOmobile!

24 One slip of the tongue, one off-color joke can end the career of a Democratic politician.

"Ah don' feel no ways tired!"

25 There's room in the party for me.

26 Dear Mr Feehery, go fuck yourself.

27 >>> He seems very upset that conservatives arenÂ’t satisfied with a pat on the head for their volunteer efforts and votes. The example I have mentioned several times is former Senator Scott Brown. He was not a TEA party candidate, but got plenty of support from us in 2010. Distancing himself didn't to his career any favors, as he failed to inspire his allies to cross Enthusiam Gap in 2012.

28 Little Johnny can STFU followed by STFD.

29 As time goes by and the USA edges closer and closer to the abyss, I see the fact a Republican is better than a Democrat makes no difference. Perhaps it isn't even a fact. Perhaps a Democrat is not worse than a Republican. Which one is the bigger liar?

30 MMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmm... Jeb!!!

31 Johnny, can I call you Johnny, I'm going to call you Johnny, lemme put you some knowledge. Sweetie, if anyone is going to be handing someone else money for the honor and pleasure of being called names and humiliated, well, I'm going to be the one getting the money, not giving it.

32 The Greeks had it right with that whole sacred king thing.

33 Look, people, let's focus on important things: So gather up. Here's what we, and be we I mean you, are going to do. We are going to ban the word "bossy". Alright? Ok, then.

34 Johnny, can I call you Johnny, I'm going to call you Johnny, lemme put you some knowledge. Sweetie, if anyone is going to be handing someone else money for the honor and pleasure of being called names and humiliated, well, I'm going to be the one getting the money, not giving it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 10:56 AM (VtjlW)

You forgot to add "bless your heart" in for maximum effect!

35 Trusssssst in meeeeeee....

36 I didn't bother to read any more than Drew quoted but does bipartisan mean that he will work for either side as long as they pay handsomely? If that's the case then it's really rich for him to preach commitment and trust.

37 Bless his heart.

38 If we are gonna ban words. The word we really need to ban is "pervert". By the way, you smell really good. You're so soft and pretty. What your name?

39 Trust has broken down.

Ah, the passive voice. Last refuge of the insider parasite. It just broke down, huh? Just like that? You and your ilk did not actively BREAK IT, huh?

40
"Fall in line" = Help the EisenhowerRockefellerNixonFordBushDoleMcCainBoehnerMcConnellRyan tax collectors for the welfare state.

Screw 'em.  Those GOP's have done marginally less harm than the Dems.
 
Ike begat Earl Warren and William Brennan
Nixon begat Harry Blackmun and Lewis Powell
Ford begat John Paul Stevens
Regan begat Sandra Day O'Connor
Bush I begat David Souter
Bush II begat John Roberts

If you end up with that cast of characters on the Supreme Court what's the point of bothering with elections?

Can someone please give me one friggin' example in the last sixty years of a Democratic president putting someone other than a reliably radical leftist on the Supreme Court?  Byron White?  Maybe?

41 My kinda fellah!!!

42

Wow, Null, that quote you pulled really is astonishing.  Complete inversion of reality.  A Dem public figure can make an entire speech's worth of televised gaffes and idiocies and remain unscathed.   Of course this a lot to do with the cretinization of the country.

 

Trust?  I don't "not trust" these people.  I know better than they do, and I do not respect their intellect, judgement, or character.  Trust doesn't really capture it.

 

They mostly don't understand policy issues, and mostly when they do, they don't have any character or guts to do what's needed.

43 Party discipline, people! (In before the trolls.)

44

One slip of the tongue, one off-color joke can end the career of a Democratic politician.

 

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Really, John Feehery?  Name a few.

 

And shall we contrast those with, say, those conservatives whose careers have been destroyed simply for being in the way of the GOPe?  I'm thinking of elected conservative reps who were passed over with committee assignments.  And shall we also mention conservatives like Ken Cuccinelli who were left twisting in the wind by the GOP?

 

This guy is an asshole.

45 39.   Bingo.  The passive voice.  Mistakes were made.  Nothing anyone could do.

46 And behold I saw a white RINO and him who sat on him was portly and lame.

47 But when people wonder why I donÂ’t really care if the GOP wins the Senate or even the presidency (get in line and support Chris Christie! Or Jeb Bush!) guys like this are at or near the top of the list. Nobody really wonders about this, Drew. You long ago outed yourself as a petulant, delusional nutjob.

48 Nah, bro. The word we need to ban is "racist". Total buzz kill. It's a friggin' Chris Rock joke. Lighten up.

49

"You see according to Feehery the real problem in the GOP and our politics at large is too much individualism and not enough collectivism "

So that's why you all should keep your traps shut and get in line. They have 40-50 "pro-business" Terry McColloughs chambered for the next 2 election campaigns.

50

This guys really knows his stuff!!!

I like the cut of his jibe.

51 If we're going to ban words how about poontang?

52 Thankfully he already exists and he loves to take to the digital pages of The Hill every now and then to remind the rest of us who runs things It seems like government in general-Dems and Repubs- has decided it's king. And the rest of us peons better hustle to get them whatever they want. Because it's their droit de seigneur. I thought we fought a revolution to get away from this.

53 In the last post, someone wondered about GWB's SAT score: 1206.

54 Let me put it this way John. If Bevin doesn't win his primary against your boy McConnell, I will send money to his democrat challenger. I have NEVER sent a dime to a democrat in my life, but I'm not to old to try something new.

55 "For our kind of democratic Republic to work, the people have to delegate certain powers to their elected representatives, and with that delegation comes a certain amount of trust. But if the people donÂ’t trust their fellow citizens, how can they trust their elected representatives? And that is where you hit the limits of individualism. " He's missing the part where that if the electorate views the elected politicians as full of shit, then we remove their power. It's kind of innate to the system. What a dumbass.

56 What a tool.

57 That whole article is some authentic frontier gibberish.

58 53 That really isn't that bad. What's Bathhouse Barry's score?

59 . But if the people donÂ’t trust their fellow citizens, how can they trust their elected representatives? Umm, it's the other way around. I trust my fellow citizens a lot more than I trust any politician, at least up until I catch my fellow citizen trying to actively screw me over.

60 And Hollowpoint is here to give us the benefit of his contempt.

61 47 But when people wonder why I donÂ’t really care if the GOP wins the Senate or even the presidency (get in line and support Chris Christie! Or Jeb Bush!) guys like this are at or near the top of the list. Nobody really wonders about this, Drew. You long ago outed yourself as a petulant, delusional nutjob. Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 11, 2014 11:01 AM (SY2Kh) You forgot to mention tantrums and party discipline. Out of coffee?

62 53 In the last post, someone wondered about GWB's SAT score: 1206. The JEF's is under lock and key, I presume.

63 I'm a Tea Party guy. I have all the distrust and dislike for the "establishment" that pretty much everyone else here has. But if given the choice between a Democrat and a Republican, I'll take the Republican. I'll take the guy that is at least marginally on my side, as opposed to the one that's dead set against me.

Except the guy "marginally" on your side is against you on every important issue and helps the left achieve its goals under the guise of "bi-partisanship".

I'd rather the left have ownership of the coming catastrophe then give it bi-partisan cover.  Bi-partisan cover results in the left never being held accountable for its idiocy.

And, the only thing the GOP is good for is giving the left bi-partisan cover.  It achieves absolutely nothing else.

64 We just want to ban words that hurt our feelings. Is that so wrong?

65 Agree with Drew 100%. Glad there's someone saying what needs to be said.

66 He's missing the part... let me put it like this, in sports terms: You draft a dude based on his ability to hit a ball, kick something, catch something, run fast, etc etc. But if, when the rubber meets the road, he can't get it done, you cut his ass. Period.

67 So instead, lets sit at home and let "worse" have the day. I'm a Tea Party guy. I have all the distrust and dislike for the "establishment" that pretty much everyone else here has. But if given the choice between a Democrat and a Republican, I'll take the Republican. I'll take the guy that is at least marginally on my side, as opposed to the one that's dead set against me. I'd like to throw the entire lot of bums out on the street and start over. But that ain't gonna happen. As Drew says, this didn't happen in one cycle, it's not going to get fixed in one cycle. So I'll do what I think is best. In every election, primary or general, I'll vote for the most Conservative guy available. *shrug* You guys do as you see fit. That's the joy of this system...no one HAS to do anything. Your choice. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 11, 2014 10:49 AM (da5Wo) Oh my God. *pinches your wee cheeks* *the ones on your face* *I am so going to throatpunch you* The remaining vestiges of your idealism are just so adorable I can't even stand it. Now that I have momentarily paused in mocking you, I do comprehend your point. However, you are making an enormous assumption there that the Republican is, in fact, marginally on your side. Not only does this assume facts not in evidence, it runs counter to evidence from the last, oh, let's say 20 years. Here's the other thing, your formulation is a reasonable one that presumes that those with the contrary position are not wee idiotic children who must be told by Their Betters what to do. That's rather different that patting me on the noggin and telling me not to worry my pretty little head about things. *narrows eyes* I see you about to pat me on the head, don't think that I don't.

68 51 If we're going to ban words how about poontang? If we're banning stuff, I want to ban "baby daddy." And "boo" as in "that's my sweet boo." I denounce myself in advance. Because RAYCISS.

69 I think Cantor is finished. He will be back to chasing ambulances soon.

70

So I'll do what I think is best. In every election, primary or general, I'll vote for the most Conservative guy available.

 

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The thing is, you generally have a choice between someone who has contempt for you vs someone who is embarassed by you.

 

Fuck em.  What you describe is de facto blackmail.

71 According to the GOPe, the elite Leftists, and the MSM, the problem isn't that they're a bunch of self serving corrupt imbeciles

The problem is that we don't love them

OK GOPe, we get it. We make you do these things to us and you really need that sammich NOW

72

Feehery is and always has been an a-hole. This is the guy who while currently arguing against Primaries thinks the NRCC should target or at least submarine the 5 or so people who voted against Boehner for Speaker. One is Tim Huelskamp another in David Schweikert.

Funny the GOP submarines conservatives who vote against Leadership too often but douchebags like Chafee get MILLIONS in support.

 

73 Enough Hollowpoints out there, and I can stay in office until I'm literally struck down by the forces of entropy... just like my all-time hero, Teddy Kennedy.

74 That really isn't that bad. What's Bathhouse Barry's score?
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 11, 2014 11:04 AM (bitz6)
Infinity. And beyond.

75 However, you are making an enormous assumption there that the Republican is, in fact, marginally on your side. Not only does this assume facts not in evidence, it runs counter to evidence from the last, oh, let's say 20 years.

  Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 11:06 AM

And that just about says it all.

76
Who runs barter town?

77 That guy sounds bossy.

78 I want to ban the phrase "entitlement spending."  And "benefits."

79 Nobody really wonders about this, Drew. You long ago outed yourself as a petulant, delusional nutjob. Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 11, 2014 11:01 AM

You don't work on a commission based job, do you

80 #13 Lil Antknee would probably have been rehabbed and reelected had he not been married to Hillary's girl, Huma. His peccadilloes were just too close to BJ Clinton's moves to be overlooked. Additionally, unlike BJ, Lil Antknee was charisma challenged, so he was made redundant.

81 Republican ¡°Super Lobbyist¡±: Conservatives Need To Shut Up And Listen To Republican Leaders How about you suck my left nut?

82 onward and status quo! rugged capitulation!

83 I for one welcome our Republican overlords.

84 Anybody up for banning RINO? It's kind of mean.

85 The Republican Party used to fall in line, The more I read that line, the more I am absolutely fuming. I have smoke coming out of my ears. The fuck?

86 stop! and do what you are told!

87 Trust is earned, Mr. Feehery. And I have never "fallen in line" in my life - anyone who is capable of independent thought isn't the sort to mindlessly follow the herd.

88 How about you suck my left nut?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2014 11:09 AM (E7Zh9)

This is no time to reward the GOP.

89 "One slip of the tongue, one off-color joke can end the career of a Democratic politician..."

The way it ended Robert Byrd's?

March 4, 2001:  "My old mom told me, 'Robert, you can't go to heaven if you hate anybody.' We practice that. There are white [enn word]. I've seen a lot of white [plural enn word] in my time, if you want to use that word..."

After saying that, Byrd's fellow Democrats went on to be elect him Senate Pro Tempore two more times.  He was also re-elected to the U.S. Senate after saying that. 

90 84 Anybody up for banning RINO? It's kind of mean. Posted by: Republicans in Name Only at March 11, 2014 11:10 AM (ZPrif) i'd love to ban rinos!!!! oh...that's not what you meant

91 I've said it before but it bears repeating: I respect the democrats inasmuch as they make it a point to openly identify as my enemy. The republicans, not so much. They lie in election years and run their fingers through my hair telling me how awesome they are in order to get my vote. Then they get elected and are a buncha damn pansies with 0 spine and will not even make eye contact with you while they're ****ing you in the ***.

92 Isn't it about time we banned the word "Amnesty". It's kind of racist after all.

93 Let's ban the word Putin!

94 #72 Also Jim Bridenstine (R, 1st District, OK. I predict an easy reelection for him.

95 TodayÂ’s sermon is dedicated to the joys of knowing your place if youÂ’re a conservative. You see according to Feehery the real problem in the GOP and our politics at large is too much individualism and not enough collectivism with a chosen few (not surprisingly he's among the few) leading the way. He wants collectivism? Fine. How about I put a bullet in his head & DECLARE myself as ruler?

96 The remaining vestiges of your idealism are just so adorable I can't even stand it. Now that I have momentarily paused in mocking you, I do comprehend your point. However, you are making an enormous assumption there that the Republican is, in fact, marginally on your side. Not only does this assume facts not in evidence, it runs counter to evidence from the last, oh, let's say 20 years. *glares* Stop that. If you're gonna grab cheeks, not those and not mine. *waits for her to see it* *prepares for the shinkicking* If literally every single politician in existence is against us, then fuck it. Might as well stay home. But I don't believe that. I don't believe in walking away from fights and conflicts and struggles. If that makes me an idealist, then so be it. I've been called worse. But I think some fights are worth fighting just because. And I think there are people out there that believe what I believe. *looks around at The Horde* I see a lot of them right here. So I say again, I will vote for the most Conservative candidate available. I give two fucks about electability. Most. Conservative. Available. There is no good/right solution here. There often isn't. So I'm gonna do the best I can to make the better decision. As I said, the joy of this place is that each person is free to choose what that means to them.

97 I stopped reading at 'Democratic Republic'. Does this 'republican' not know that America was founded as, and was meant to remain, a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC?

98 Much as Hollowpoint speaks his contempt of us here, he's actually putting in writing what the GOPe and their advocates here like JeffB and Jackstraw REALLY think of us

99 This Feehery asshole sounds EXACTLY like Obama in his 2013 commencement speech at Ohio State University:


“We, the people, chose to do these things together — because we know this country cannot accomplish great things if we pursue nothing greater than our own individual ambition.

Unfortunately, youÂ’ve grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity thatÂ’s at the root of all our problems. Some of these same voices also do their best to gum up the works. TheyÂ’ll warn that tyranny always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave, and creative, and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we canÂ’t be trusted."


I bet Feehery rubbed one out when he heard that speech.

100 Trust? I don't "not trust" these people. I know better than they do, and I do not respect their intellect, judgement, or character. Trust doesn't really capture it. These "people" aren't any smarter than any of us. In fact, the more they're promoted as being "smart," usually the stupider they are. They should have as little power as possible because of this. They should be treated as the imbeciles they are, and have strict rules placed upon them, because they have proven they can't control themselves.

101 If literally every single politician in existence is against us, then fuck it. Might as well stay home. But I don't believe that. I don't believe in walking away from fights and conflicts and struggles. If that makes me an idealist, then so be it. I've been called worse. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 11, 2014 11:12 AM (da5Wo) I agree with you in principle, but in practice it's not that simple.

102 “bi-partisan, super lobbyist” John Feehery



I have never heard of this person.   Why do all these    strange people we've never heard of get to tell us what to do?

103 >>>60 And Hollowpoint is here to give us the benefit of his contempt. At least let's us know that our concerns will fall on deaf ears, as always.

104 @47 -- May I recommend a good book?

105 The Republican Party used to fall in line, but now, it is seemingly falling apart. The Tea Party insurgency is virulently distrustful of big government, big business and big labor. It despises the “Republican Establishment.” It has even declared war on the Chamber of Commerce.

Yes, Yes, and Yes. Because they have become too big for their britches. And we despise the Republican establishment for not bringing them to heel. Exhibit one - The CoC declared war on US, jackass, and the "establishment" types like you are eager to help.

106 starting to look like the Ace of Spades Lifestyle may have downed that flight. Young Aussie woman describes how co pilot flirted with her in the cockpit during a previous flight One of the pilots was Fariq Abdul Hamid, the 27-year-old first officer on board missing flight MH370, Ms Roos claims. ‘Throughout the whole flight they were talking to us, they were actually smoking throughout the flight, which I don’t think they’re allowed to be doing and they were taking photos with us in the cockpit while they were flying the plane,’ she told A Current Affair. She also claimed that for much of the trip the co-pilots were not even facing the front of the plane. Mr Hamid was one of 239 people on board the plane that disappeared en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on Saturday. Ms Roos says she was shocked when she saw that Mr Hamid was one of those missing. ‘When I realised that it was the exact same co-pilot… and that I had met him and been in the cockpit with him and have photos with him – that was quite shocking.’

107 Pretty sure we should ban the word "abortion". It's too emotional. Gets people all crazy. We could it something else -- something more neutral -- how does "Women's Reproductive Health Right" sound?

108 This self-declared elite wasnÂ’t built in a day and it wonÂ’t be destroyed in one election cycle either. But when people wonder why I donÂ’t really care if the GOP wins the Senate or even the presidency (get in line and support Chris Christie! Or Jeb Bush!) guys like this are at or near the top of the list.
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I'm pretty much with BC on this.  It does matter.  North Carolina 2010+2012 is a perfect example of why it is important that not-Democrats run Congress and the White House.  The GOP is trending to the right, and the national electorate is trending right.  We're hearing more crazy stuff from the E-Pubs because they're losing control on the state and local levels, too.  Stuff they've taken for granted for decades, well, now they have to scramble for lucre just like the rest of us.

109 "... but almost as unpopular are Republican leaders John Boehner and Mitch McConnell. There is little patience to follow the leaders within the GOP."

That's because they *KEEP FUCKING US OVER.*

"Bipartisan" to these two spineless shitheels really means, "Yes, Mr. President (or Ms. Pelosi, or Mr. Reid). As you like it."

Piss on all of them.

110 It has even declared war on the Chamber of Commerce

The Chamber of Commerce has declared war on the jobs of American citizens in the tech industry so that terminal beta male Mark Zuckerberg can have more money to placate his wife (seriously, have you seen the contempt she looks at him with?).  They'll excuse me if I'm not enthusiastic about that, even though they also do good things.

111 The GOP can run a completely useless asshole for office and win simply because the Democrat is worse. It is no victory.

112 It has even declared war on the Chamber of Commerce.

The Chamber of Commerce that's pushing for amnesty so their cronies can fire American workers and hire illegals at half the cost?  Can't imagine why they'd declare war on them, 'tis a mystery.

113
Its all about whose ox is being gored.  John Feehery likes to gore the taxpayers ox, but he now fears it might be his.

Poor baby.

114 Next time Feehehehereheheheeeeaaaallly opens his pie hole someone please jam a white hot poker down his throat.

115

"One ... off-color joke can end the career of a D[EMOCRAT] politician"???  What is this guy smoking...

 

From his lips to G-d's ears.  In the meantime, as long as they stay on the plantation, Donks can physically assault women and not have to leave office, get impeached and removed from office as a Federal judge and then have a second act as a member of the House, and call a Republican anything at all and it's just a joke (can't you take a joke, Rethuglinazi h8ers?) that will never, ever become a national story.

116

Sure, Barack Obama is unpopular with the conservative base, but almost as unpopular are Republican leaders John Boehner and Mitch McConnell. There is little patience to follow the leaders within the GOP. Trust has broken down. The movement will not be satisfied.

The Republican Party used to fall in line, but now, it is seemingly falling apart. The Tea Party insurgency is virulently distrustful of big government, big business and big labor. It despises the “Republican Establishment.” It has even declared war on the Chamber of Commerce.

Is it just me, or is this guy not connecting the dots that   "lack of trust" is WHY we conservatives dont' give a flying fuck about the GOPe?   It's like   he throws that out there as a reason there's this divide in the party,   and then completely misses the point    he JUST MADE and acts like it's something that can be glossed over.   WTF?  

117 Posted by: Phinn at March 11, 2014 11:14 AM (KOGmz) Brother, that speech makes my skin crawl. It runs 180 degrees to everything I believe and just... the Anger Meter goes to 12 just reading those words.

118 If we had the superior leadership abilities of men like Feehery at the time of the Revolution we would still be subjects of the United Kingdom and our tax rates would be even higher.

119 Tina refused to "fall in line" when I told her to.  Once.

120 Johnny, can I call you Johnny, I'm going to call you Johnny, lemme put you some knowledge. Sweetie, if anyone is going to be handing someone else money for the honor and pleasure of being called names and humiliated, well, I'm going to be the one getting the money, not giving it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 10:56 AM (VtjlW)

*sassy head bob and finger snap*   Uh-huh!   

121 112 The GOP can run a completely useless asshole for office and win simply because the Democrat is worse. It is no victory. Posted by: eman at March 11, 2014 11:15 AM (AO9UG) /looks at the (R) roster in congress Yup. Seems about right.

122

I've been convinced since the '12 elections that  the Republican Party would prefer to be the minority party. 

 

They long for  the days of  140 seats in the House, and 30something in the Senate, with an occasional break-through in the White House.

 

 

123 How about you suck my left nut?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2014 11:09 AM (E7Zh9)

Because your right nut is too good for him?

124 I love self-described “bi-partisan, super lobbyist” John Feehery

So a "bi-partisan" lobbyist is something like an arms merchant who sells to both sides in a war. So no matter who wins, he always gets paid.

He's just telling us what to do, which are things that make him the most money.

So eff him with a rusty pineapple. Sideways.

125 The JEF's is under lock and key, I presume. Posted by: Citizen X at March 11, 2014 11:04 AM (7ObY1) Never taken, probably. And, wrt his grades, I'm beginning to think that there are none, at least from Columbia. Remember, no one from Columbia's Class of '83 has any memory of him.

126 Who exactly is this guy arguing against? Is there really an American movement that is so individualist they've rejected the idea of a republic? The TEA party seems to be voting for their guys, not agitating for a pure democracy.

127

Except the guy "marginally" on your side is against you on every important issue and helps the left achieve its goals under the guise of "bi-partisanship".
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I think this kind of stuff is short sighted. I had this conversation with somebody a while back, the Republicans suck but take any issue, the dems are generally worse. So why would I vote Dem? Why would I willingly let them have control? I don't believe 'burn it down so the dem's will have ownership' is a great strategy. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

 

That's not to say that there aren't specific republicans I won't vote for or might stay home rather than vote that way but if someone is mostly on my side, I am going to vote that way and hope for the best unless they really piss me off.  But it's sure as hell not because I trust them or am falling in line.  The place to hash this out is the primaries - pick a good candidate and then vote for them.

128 I completely concur...

129

I think this kind of stuff is short sighted. I had this conversation with somebody a while back, the Republicans suck but take any issue, the dems aregenerally worse. So why would I vote Dem? Why would I willingly let them have control? I don't believe 'burn it down so the dem's will have ownership' is a great strategy. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

 

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OK...

 

What's the substantive difference on, oh, "immigration reform" between Harry Reid and John McCain?

 

 

130 Won't somebody please think of the children?!!

131 I stepped away for twenty minutes to talk about Important Work Stuff, has Hollowpoint showed up to denigrate Drew as a reactionary yet?


Nobody really wonders about this, Drew. You long ago outed yourself as a petulant, delusional nutjob.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 11, 2014 11:01 AM



Ahhhh, Just like clockwork, baby.

132 I may say Let. It. Burn. frequently, but I DO NOT say it lightly. That said, LET. IT. BURN.

133

The Republican Party is approaching its 1852 Whig moment, which was that point in history where Whig Party leadership split irrevocably from its anti-slavery base and acceded to the Fugitive Slave Act. The Whigs, fearful of Southern secession and the possibility of civil war, were willing to make whatever compromise was necessary to prevent the country from splitting apart.

 

The circumstances are different, of course, but the issues at stake are just as great and divisive. Either we become serfs subject to an authoritarian socialist superstate or we remain a free people with a constitutional Republic. Like the Whigs, current Republican leadership has lost the courage of their convictions, and whatever hill they're standing on is never the hill to die on.  If they won't fight these Marxist weasels, then what are they for? What purpose do they serve? 

 

I guess we'll know what they're about if the GOP keeps the House and takes the Senate in the midterms. Either they stop the President's transformative agenda or we can start putting together a new political party. It's happened before.

134 One slip of the tongue, one off-color joke can end the career of a Democratic politician.

Trent Lott.

Wait, he was a Republican?

135

John Feehery is a nickelfucking assweasel who needs to choke on a bag of dicks.

 

That is all.

136 "The party has come unmoored from any religious values. It glorifies the individual, no matter what choices that individual might make."

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SAY WHAT?

Democrats do not glorify the individual. They glorify the state. Who the fuck wrote this nonsense?

137 Nobody really wonders about this, Drew. You long ago outed yourself as a petulant, delusional nutjob. - Hollowpoint heh

138 Is it just me, or is this guy not connecting the dots that "lack of trust" is WHY we conservatives dont' give a flying fuck about the GOPe? It's like he throws that out there as a reason there's this divide in the party, and then completely misses the point he JUST MADE and acts like it's something that can be glossed over. WTF? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at March 11, 2014 11:16 AM (4df7R) He completely and utterly misses the point of the very basis of our representational govt. Trust is meaningless. You are sent to DC to do a job. To represent us. If you do not do that job in a manner that 50.1% of your constituency likes, we're going to remove you from power. Trust has no place here.

139 One slip of the tongue, one off-color joke can end the career of a Democratic politician.


Where do they get this shit?  


Hey buddy!    Bubba   Clinton   fucked an intern in the Oval Office   and    raped a fair share of other women.      Last I checked,     Demonrats across teh country wish they could   make him President again.       Square that circle for me, chief.

140 These "people" aren't any smarter than any of us. In fact, the more they're promoted as being "smart," usually the stupider they are.


Nancy Pelosi
Joe Biden
Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton
Barbara Boxer
Sheila Jackson Lee
Patty Murray
Hilda Solis
Maxine Waters
Chuck Hagel
Debbie Wassermouth Shithead
Hank Johnson
John McCain
Elijah Cummings
Jamie Gorelick
Lisa Murowski
Barack Obama

I could go on...

141 Fall in line? You mean like Paul Ryan fucking over the Veterans? Yeah, tell me again which party is the good guys?

142 126 The JEF's is under lock and key, I presume. Posted by: Citizen X at March 11, 2014 11:04 AM (7ObY1) Never taken, probably. And, wrt his grades, I'm beginning to think that there are none, at least from Columbia. Remember, no one from Columbia's Class of '83 has any memory of him. Posted by: baldilocks filipova at March 11, 2014 11:18 AM (36Rjy) If someone is a Columbia, or Berkeley, or NYU grad they're already halfway down the road of complete contempt. But claiming you went to Columbia and not even having the balls to release your *alleged* transcripts means Obama isn't even qualified to tie shoes, let alone lead a nation. I'll be more than happy to post every grade I ever got. 3 AA's, 1 BS, 1 MS. I busted my ass for those grades, even the C I got in humanities. I'm sure you guys would as well. Difference between us and him is we're not narcissistic pussies.

143

As long as we're talking identity politics...

 

An openly gay man is running for DC mayor.  Liberal ultradouche gay acquaintance of mine tells me that he wishes he lived in DC so he could vote for him since "it's time" a major city had a gay leader.

 

I said I wished I lived in DC so I could vote against him since he's gay.

 

Acquaintance calls me a bigot for voting against someone just because he's gay.

I ask what do you call someone who votes *for* someone just because he's gay?

 

I don't think he got it, or actually he refused to get it because his brain would hurt too much.  But yeah, these are the kinds of people Feehery likes - dumb shits who vote as they're  told without thinking about it.

144 Posted by: thunderb at March 11, 2014 11:14 AM (zOTsN)

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That's sensational Current Affair (I didn't even think that crap was still on) bullshit. For 95% of a flight, the pilots don't do anything. The plane flies itself. So yeah while it's kinda tacky to be hitting on FAs, it's not a dangerous act.

As for smoking....it's an Asian airlines. .Nuff Said

145 You are sent to DC to do a job. To represent us. If you do not do that job in a manner that 50.1% of your constituency likes, we're going to remove you from power.

We need a law that everyone elected to Congress gets this tattooed on them.

146 But most of those women he raped were white trash and trailer trash and psycho sluts. Those don't count.

147 "You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."

WHOOPS!  There goes my political career... right, Feehery?

148

Dear Feehery:

 

Go fuck yourself.  For all the hemming and hawing and handwringing that goes on by fellow morans, know this.  We will not support a RINO ever again.  We've done it for decades now.  We're done.

 

We will fucking walk.  You think winning an election is hard WITH our support.  Just wait until we all sit the fucking thing out.  Class dismissed.

149 But I think some fights are worth fighting just because. And I think there are people out there that believe what I believe. *looks around at The Horde* I see a lot of them right here. So I say again, I will vote for the most Conservative candidate available. I give two fucks about electability. Most. Conservative. Available. There is no good/right solution here. There often isn't. So I'm gonna do the best I can to make the better decision. As I said, the joy of this place is that each person is free to choose what that means to them. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 11, 2014 11:12 AM (da5Wo) *throatpunches* Oh. Hey. This placard fell off your car: http://bit.ly/PovKhF Here. No, no, no need to thank me. The look on your face says it all. Also, dude, what the hell are you doing getting reasonableness and grownuppitty (is too a word) all over the thread? Remember, the only choices are GOP 4EVA! or DIE GOPE SCUM! No inbetween. The stay at home contingent is utilizing a weapon in the arsenal of democracy. No, I do not have to vote for anyone at all. No political party is owed my vote. The assumption that any conservative will just STFD and STFU betrays a fundamental lack of comprehension of what conservatism is. Of course I'm going to be furious to be treated with contempt. I should be. I repeat, if anyone is getting paid to call someone else names and humiliate them, that person is going to be me. All the above being said, the only GOP Presidential candidate for whom I will not vote is Huckabee. At this point in time, I will bitch and bitch and bitch and bitch about, say, Jeb, but I will drag myself there to vote for him.

150 So, remind me again - which one is he?
http://tinyurl.com/28bpzn9

151 120    Ike

Listening to Michael Berry?

152

"One slip of the tongue, one off-color joke can end the career of a Democratic politician."

 

"Spread the wealth around."  "Bitterly cling to their guns and their bibles."  "Red Line."

153 Much as Hollowpoint speaks his contempt of us here, he's actually putting in writing what the GOPe and their advocates here like JeffB and Jackstraw REALLY think of us Why would I not have contempt for the "losing is winning" crowd? Those of you who'd rather have a leftist government than a more conservative- but impure- government are traitors to the principles you pretend to hold. So to be perfectly clear, no- I don't have any respect for you. Idealism, not money or religion, is the root of most evils.

154 Gee whillickers, I can't imagine why conservatives don't trust the big-government, Democrat-aiding leadership of the Republican party!

155 For our kind of democratic Republic to work, the people have to delegate certain powers to their elected representatives, and with that delegation comes a certain amount of trust. But if the people donÂ’t trust their fellow citizens, how can they trust their elected representatives? And that is where you hit the limits of individualism. No, jackass. Our politicians are hired help. We hire them with our votes then expect them to do the job they promised to do. If they don't do the job, or actually seem to be working against the job they were hired to do(see Rubio), they need to be fired. i.e.. voted out of office, impeached or legally removed. That's it. They are Public Servants. Only they've forgotten both the Public and Servant part.

156 I don't support a party, I support candidates who will vote on bills as I would.  There isn't much point in winning elections if you don't get the legislative results that you want.

157 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 11:26 AM (VtjlW) I still love you. ; )

158 I especially like the "lack of trust" talk.

Like it's our fucking fault we don't trust the bastards that haven't done ONE FUCKING THING they promised they would do before getting elected.

Our fault for believing them when they lied.

159 134 The Republican Party is approaching its 1852 Whig moment, which was that point in historywhere Whig Party leadership split irrevocably from its anti-slaverybase and acceded to the Fugitive Slave Act. The Whigs, fearful ofSouthern secession and the possibility of civil war, were willing to make whatever compromise was necessary to prevent the country from splitting apart. If we don't compromise, we may have to stay late or endanger comity.

160 TACTICS!! Doing what is politically possible!!

161 I think this kind of stuff is short sighted. I had this conversation with somebody a while back, the Republicans suck but take any issue, the dems aregenerally worse. So why would I vote Dem? Why would I willingly let them have control? I don't believe 'burn it down so the dem's will have ownership' is a great strategy. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

A cliche is not an argument.  If the GOP did any "good" you would have a point.  They do not.  I am not letting the "perfect" be the enemy of the "good", I am saying that the GOP is the enemy because they do no good and instead do harm. 

Prove me wrong. Point to me where the GOP has reduced spending, reduced the size of gov't, eliminated a federal agency, eliminated a federal program, been against amnesty, or done anything worth supporting?

Wait - that's right, the GOP instead has INCREASED spending at every opportunity, INCREASED the size of Gov't, ADDED new entitlement programs, and is for amnesty.

So, again, what point do you think you are making?  What "good" am I letting be the enemy of the "perfect"?

Cliches don't win arguments.

162 They long for the days of 140 seats in the House, and 30something in the Senate, with an occasional break-through in the White House.
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The Fortune 500 would be happy to subsidize an obedient Republican minority as long as said minority answered to the dog whistles.  It's the Tea Party insurgency that rocks the boat, what, with all that "free markets" talk and entrepreneurship,  in other words, competition. And with the crony insider stuff with reliable bagmen making their office calls, and purchased congresscritters subsidizing Fortune 100 corporations with debt that will beggar this generation's great-grandchildren, well, you can understand why "super-lobbyists" get all jizzy with hoi polloi "getting in line".

163 "You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking." Feather or dot? Heyhowareya, heyhowareya, heyhowareya. Guess my political career is over.

164 We need a law that everyone elected to Congress gets this tattooed on them.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 11, 2014 11:25 AM (B/VB5)

We need a law that says that every law a Congressman votes for gets tattooed on them. 

165 e completely and utterly misses the point of the very basis of our representational govt. Trust is meaningless. You are sent to DC to do a job. To represent us. If you do not do that job in a manner that 50.1% of your constituency likes, we're going to remove you from power.

Trust has no place here.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 11, 2014 11:23 AM (da5Wo)

I don't think trust is meaningless.   You have to trust that    the guy    (or woman)   you're voting for is going to do what he or she SAYS they're going to do when they get to Washington.   We ahve too many politicians who say one thing on the campaign trail and another thing when they're safely ensconced in a cushy   office in DC.   That's why we don't want McLame or Grahamnesty,   or even  Rubio.   They all lied    to get elected, and in the case of McLame and Grahamnesty,   they've lied repeatedly and shamelessly.   And these are the    alleged   elder statesmen   of our party?   THESE are the people we're supposed to respect?

Nuh-uh. 

166 This taunt of "You whiny purists just want the Democrats to take over because you think Democrats screwing things up will bring people over to your side are just short-sighted and bratty" really misses the boat.

1. "Letting Democrats screw up to bring people to our side," is the Establishment Republican philosophy. Look at their 2014 strategy. "Do absolutely nothing, just let people focus on how bad Obamacare is and we will win."

2. Wanting Democrats to screw things up has nothing to do with it; it's that we don't see any effort - NONE - on the part of Republicans to fix it, or stop the Democrats from screwing it up. And those that do are called "Whackobirds" by the GOP Establishment.

Which is why there is a "Let. It. Burn." bumpersticker on the back of my car.

167 torches to the left, pitchforks to the right. We march at sunset.

168 John Feehery is a nickelfucking assweasel who needs to choke on a bag of dicks. That is all. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 11, 2014 11:21 AM (zF6Iw) *sidles over* Hi. How you doin'?

169 I don't think trust is meaningless. You have to trust that the guy (or woman) you're voting for is going to do what he or she SAYS they're going to do when they get to Washington.


Hey there.

170 a more conservative- but impure- government are traitors to the principles you pretend to hold More conservative than what? Lenin? Only marginally so

171

"What's the substantive difference on, oh, "immigration reform" between Harry Reid and John McCain?"

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John McCain sucks. They may have the same position on one issue (or 3 or 4) but Harry Reid sucks more on the others.  If those are my choices, I will vote for McCain every time because he will occasionally vote my way and Reid never will.

 

As I said, the place to take care of this stuff is primaries, unless you can actually run a good third party candidate with a prayer in hell of winning. So if you can dump McCain in the primaries, awesome. IF you can't, who is nominally better?   

172

Those of you who'd rather have a leftist government than a more conservative- but impure- government are traitors to the principles you pretend to hold

 

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The Dems are honest about giving us a leftist government.

The GOP lies about giving us a leftist government.

 

So really, when it comes to betrayal of principles, I'll say it sits squarely on the party that pays lip service to conservative principles but then turns on them as soon as the coast is clear.

 

Pretty sure Paul Ryan fits the definition of "traitor to principles" when he joined with an out-and-out socialist to undo even the pocket-change funding reductions in the last CR.

173 my day to peruse tabloids. This one I believe A bombshell ENQUIRER news probe has uncov­ered the shocking details about the president’s secret hit list of Republican stars who dare to question his administration’s policies. At the top of the list are Kelsey Grammer, Pat Boone, Gary Sinise and Jon Voight, but sources revealed there may be hundreds of Hollywood per­sonalities caught in the Obama administration’s crosshairs. An irate Pat Boone spoke about the situation ex­clusively with The ENQUIRER. “We’re obviously being targeted,” said the 79-year-old singer, actor and writer. “This is still America, where people can still meet in their homes and talk freely. But conservatives like myself are being sin­gled out by the Obama administration. “Obama is the boss and they are doing things under his aegis. The administration is trying to in­timidate people and ridicule anyone who does not agree with them.” Boone and his three cohorts are reportedly mem­bers of a 1,500-member organization called Friends of Abe – named after America’s first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln – which is being singled out for scrutiny by the Internal Revenue Ser­vice, The ENQUIRER has learned. “Hollywood stars who have dared to criticize Barack are on his enemies list and the IRS is inves­tigating them,” a White House insider divulged. “Boone, Grammer, Sinise and Voight are at the top, but the president wants to know which other Hollywood stars are involved. “Barack doesn’t have to say a word to IRS officials. When he complains long and loud about certain celebrities who have made him furious by opposing him, they know what to do. “In private, Barack admits he’s had it with these stars and the groups they’re heading. He’s demanding that his government agencies get to work and make them feel his anger.” In addition to his association with the FOA, former “Frasier” star Kelsey Grammer has drawn special wrath from the White House ever since he invested in and promoted the Right Network in 2010. Calling it a “pro-business, pro-America” TV network, Grammer explained it was dedicated to espousing conservative principals. The network folded in less than a year due to lack of funding. Hollywood screenwriter Lionel Chetwynd, a founding member of FOA, confirmed to The ENQUIRER that the IRS had requested the names of the group’s members. “Asking people to name names in Holly­wood is very serious,” said Chetwynd, whose work includes the Tom Selleck flick “Ike: Countdown to D-Day.” “It echoes a dark time in Hollywood, similar to what Joe McCarthy did with Commu­nists in Hollywood and his blacklist.” FOA keeps its members’ names private. Al­though they are not linked to FOA, published reports say other A-list Hollywood Republicans who potentially could be under the watchful eye of the White House include: Vince Vaughn, Drew Carey, Patricia Heaton, Bruce Willis, Clint Eastwood, Jessica Simpson, Connie Stevens, Melissa Joan Hart and Canadian-born “Jeopardy” host Alex Trebek, who became a U.S. citizen in 1998. you see that? IRS has requested group members names no body give a shit about enemies lists anymore

174 Feather or dot? Heyhowareya, heyhowareya, heyhowareya. Guess my political career is over. Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2014 11:28 AM (E7Zh9) I was informed the other day by a coworker that the feather or dot question is outdated. The newer formula is "casino or 7-11?"

175 @152 alexthechick -- "The stay at home contingent is utilizing a weapon in the arsenal of democracy. No, I do not have to vote for anyone at all. No political party is owed my vote. The assumption that any conservative will just STFD and STFU betrays a fundamental lack of comprehension of what conservatism is."

[::Insert Wild, Sustained Standing Ovation Here::]

176 Oh, I hadn't heard "nicklefucker" in like #twoweeks! It is just one of those words that makes a little smile every time I read it.

177 When you work with Democrats, they never forget how you helped them and they'll cut you a lot of slack in return

The media will always love you too

178 Well, here I am. Let History begin!

179 As an individual with the undiluted luxury of one solid and one...acceptable Senator, as well as a pretty decent Representative, my priority list is simple. Politically, keep my good people in play. Culturally, work to return the culture to a state where useless knobgobbling spoogeguzzling feces-feasting rent-seeking ass-sniffing subretards like Feehery will not only no longer be able to dominate the agenda, they will be forced to wander quietly from town to town, concealing the reality of their existence, ekeing out a meager existence on odd jobs requiring little or no real responsibility, forever cloaked in a miasma of despair and cheap booze. I don't ask much, really.

180 146
As long as we're talking identity politics...

An openly gay man is running for DC mayor. Liberal ultradouche gay acquaintance of mine tells me that he wishes he lived in DC so he could vote for him since "it's time" a major city had a gay leader.

I said I wished I lived in DC so I could vote against him since he's gay.

Acquaintance calls me a bigot for voting against someone just because he's gay.

I ask what do you call someone who votes *for* someone just because he's gay?

I don't think he got it, or actually he refused to get it because his brain would hurt too much. But yeah, these are the kinds of people Feehery likes - dumb shits who vote as they're told without thinking about it.

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 11, 2014 11:24 AM (eytER)

 

You know I think there was a gay guy running for mayor of a major US city.  He lost to a perverted fuck named Filner.  But he had an R after his name so I bet this guy wouldn't want to vote for him.

181 torches to the left, pitchforks to the right. We march at sunset. Oooh-rah!

182 Why would I not have contempt for the "losing is winning" crowd? Those of you who'd rather have a leftist government than a more conservative- but impure- government are traitors to the principles you pretend to hold. So to be perfectly clear, no- I don't have any respect for you.

Idealism, not money or religion, is the root of most evils.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 11, 2014 11:26 AM (SY2Kh)

because you and the GOP have accomplished so much.  You have no argument, just silly tirade.  I don't respect you because you are dishonest and stupid.  You believe that blind loyalty to the GOP is something to be proud of.  It is really quite idiotic. 

the idea that you are remotely conservative is laughable.  Anybody who blindly follows the GOP like a religion can claim nothing remotely conservative in their beliefs.  Not when you worship the party of increased spending, increased gov't, increased entitlements, amnesty and a plethora of other leftist dogma.

You call us traitors?  That is rich.  traitors to what?  Not conservatism, you have no clue what conservatism is.  You love and worship the GOP.  That is fine.  It is inane, but fine, that is your right.  Just don't think you are morally righteous for worshiping an entity with no principles and no purpose other than gaining office. 

Too silly.

183 161 I especially like the "lack of trust" talk.

Like it's our fucking fault we don't trust the bastards that haven't done ONE FUCKING THING they promised they would do before getting elected.

Our fault for believing them when they lied.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 11, 2014 11:27 AM (VjL9S)

Complaining about a lack of trust is like complaining about how people don't laugh at your jokes. 

You can't argue your way into being trusted, any more than you can argue your way into people thinking you're funny. 

It either happens naturally, or it doesn't happen. 

184 If they want to keep meeting in marble palaces they'd better throw us a bone periodically.

185 Sharkman to conservative "leaders": FYNQ

186 A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go. (Maxim # 30) . Mew . . . (from here, silly http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2003-03-0

187 Boone says The FOA has applied for nonprofit status, which would exempt them from paying taxes, but claims the application has been “stonewalled and delayed” at every turn.

188 We need a law that says that every law a Congressman votes for gets tattooed on them.

Yes.  San Fran Nan will need a lot more skin to fit ObamaCare...

189 Actually most of the advances in gun rights and 2nd Amendment protections are because Republicans won elections and appointed judges who ruled in favor of the 2nd Amendment. Give the Left a few more election cycles to appoint judges and all that can vanish. Gun rights haven't advanced in liberal states because we won the political debate -- they advanced because they were forced to by the courts. It's ignorant to say there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats.

190 John McCain sucks. They may havethe same position on one issue (or 3 or 4)but Harry Reid sucks more on the others. If those are my choices, I willvote for McCain every time because he will occasionally vote my way and Reid never will.


If McCain ever votes "your way" it will be because Harry Reid engineered the vote to allow him to do so, for cover.  That's the way it works.  Rest assured that when McCain's vote is the vote that counts, he'll vote with the Democrats.

191 @Hollowpoint I wish I had a million more just like you.

192

John McCain sucks. They may havethe same position on one issue (or 3 or 4)but Harry Reid sucks more on the others. If those are my choices, I willvote for McCain every time because he will occasionally vote my way and Reid never will.

 

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You said to take any issue and the Dems are generally worse.  OK, amnesty is a game changer.  Illegal immigration has already largely destroyed the part-time unskilled labor job market, so much so that if you're as suburban teenager you simply cannot find a job at, oh, McDonald's.  That is a big problem.  It means kids don't get practical job experience, don't get bottom-level familiarity with what it means to HAVE a job, and stunts their economic growth and development.

 

Reid and McCain are on the same page on this.  It's important.  And there is no reason why I should vote for a McCain simply because he pays lip service to conservatives on something minor.

 

Incidentally....I like Harry Reid on 2A issues much more than John McCain....

193 Oh. Hey. This placard fell off your car: http://bit.ly/PovKhF Here. No, no, no need to thank me. The look on your face says it all. http://tinyurl.com/mmm4pwt The stay at home contingent is utilizing a weapon in the arsenal of democracy. No, I do not have to vote for anyone at all. No political party is owed my vote. The assumption that any conservative will just STFD and STFU betrays a fundamental lack of comprehension of what conservatism is. Of course I'm going to be furious to be treated with contempt. I should be. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 11:26 AM (VtjlW) I agree. Cochran's Rules of Life Rule #2: No one in this life owes you a damn thing other than air to breathe. You want something? Go earn it. The same absolutely holds true for politicians. None of them are owed anything by me. While it is most assuredly well within Person X's rights to not vote, it is also within mine to say that I think that's the wrong choice and counterproductive in the long run. I hate the contempt as much as anyone. Like I said, in a perfect world they're all sitting there asses on the curb. But as we all know, this world ain't perfect by a long shot. So I'm gonna do my best to make the best decision that I can given the circumstances in front of me.

194

156 -

 

You're either young or stupid,  Hollowpoint, and you've at least suggested you've been doing this for a long time, so...

 

The people here you call traitors  are  the ones who have been donating time, money, and a great deal of emotional and intellectual support to the Republican Party for decades. 

 

It's not idealism that kept  people  voting for the Bob Doles and John McCains all these years.  It was loyalty. 

 

It was all one-sided.  The  Party never gave any of it back.  They (and you)  are the traitors. 

 

Your  contempt is merely further vindication that  people are right to abandon the Republican Party.  You don't deserve  any loyalty. 

195 I'm personally looking forward to being blamed yet again by TPTB when McConnell loses to the Democrat in Kentucky. Damn, you tea party conservatives suck! Well yeah, McConnell did insult you repeatedly and say you were going to get crushed by him and the establishment, but you still should have voted for him!!!! Waaaaahhh!

196 Dem/Repubs, potato/potahto. Can't help but suspect they are all in love with the notion of an uber-presidency. And an aristocracy of political elites. Serfdom for the rest of us.

197 IRS has requested group members names no body give a shit about enemies lists anymore Posted by: thunderb at March 11, 2014 11:30 AM (zOTsN) Unpeople have no rights to participate in democracy so they aren't enemies because they are subhuman. No, I'm not really joking that this is how much of the Left views the issue. Also, let us ponder for a moment that TFG is afraid of Pat Boone and Jessica Simpson. Now, to be fair, Pat Boone could probably still fuck your shit up. But Jessica Simpson? Really? Ponder that. Ponder. That.

198 I was informed the other day by a coworker that the feather or dot question is outdated. The newer formula is "casino or 7-11?" True. Feather or dot is so 90's, but seeing how the original comment referenced 7-11, that would have kinda ruined it.

199 As long as we're talking identity politics...An openly gay man is running for DC mayor. Liberal ultradouche gay acquaintance of mine tells me that he wishes he lived in DC so he could vote for him since "it's time" a major city had a gay leader.I said I wished I lived in DC so I could vote against him since he's gay.Acquaintance calls me a bigot for voting against someone just because he's gay.I ask what do you call someone who votes *for* someone just because he's gay?I don't think he got it, or actually he refused to get it because his brain would hurt too much. But yeah, these are the kinds of people Feehery likes - dumb shits who vote as they're told without thinking about it. Posted by: @JohnTant at March 11, 2014 11:24 AM (eytER) You know I think there was a gay guy running for mayor of a major US city. He lost to a perverted fuck named Filner. But he had an R after his name so I bet this guy wouldn't want to vote for him. Posted by: buzzion tell your dumbass friend that a lesbian has been in charge of the fourth largest city, Houston, for years now and don't forget Ed Koch or NY dumbass friend is a dumbass

200 "Culturally, work to return the culture to a state where useless knobgobbling spoogeguzzling feces-feasting rent-seeking ass-sniffing subretards..."

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 11, 2014 11:31 AM (naUcP)

 

Damn, Cavil, I haven't heard swearing that creative since boot camp.

201 True. Feather or dot is so 90's, but seeing how the original comment referenced 7-11, that would have kinda ruined it. Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2014 11:34 AM (E7Zh9) Yeah, I hear ya. I just wanted to post the joke.

202

Just came from a meeting where I learned about Operation Ardent Sentry (2014).  This operation is defined as a 'functional exercise focusing on military support to civilian authorities.'

 

This concerns me.

203 One of my disappointments is discovering that GOPe is exactly who the Donks say they are. I dumped the GOP because of their war on women. After the 2008 election, GOP blamed Palin for the loss in very unkind words. That wasn't my first disagreement with GOPe but it was the last straw.

204 tell your dumbass friend that a lesbian has been in charge of the fourth largest city, Houston, for years now

Houston is in icky Texas, so it doesn't count.

205 Damn, Cavil, I haven't heard swearing that creative since boot camp. Hey, I'm in competition with the Empress, here. I gotta up my game...

206 "The Republican Party used to fall in line, but now, it is seemingly falling apart."


Is this a deliberate attempt to suppress Republican voter turnout?

207 Also, let us ponder for a moment that TFG is afraid of Pat Boone and Jessica Simpson. Now, to be fair, Pat Boone could probably still fuck your shit up. But Jessica Simpson? Really? Ponder that. Ponder. That.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 11:34 AM (VtjlW)

 

Clint Eastwood alone makes up for any slack in the chain.

208 I see Drew has got the proud individualists all saying their proud individualist things in exactly the same way again.  The barbaric yawps being sounded are all so individualistic, they form a perfect individualistic harmony.

If it is a day that ends in "y" there is a post from Drew whining about how the 5% on the extreme right don't run the other 95% of the Republican Party. 

209 Why would I not have contempt for the "losing is winning" crowd? Those of you who'd rather have a leftist government than a more conservative- but impure- government are traitors to the principles you pretend to hold. So to be perfectly clear, no- I don't have any respect for you.

Idealism, not money or religion, is the root of most evils.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 11, 2014 11:26 AM (SY2Kh)

Money is not inherently evil, nor was it said to be in the first place. 

The love of money was the subject.  Samuel Jackson has a question for you about English, do you speak it? 

There is no traitorous thought or behavior in refusing to accept placations and lip service as the genuine article.  The GOP has failed, for many years now, to deliver on its stated principles.  That a large swath of conservatives no longer place any trust in them is not their fault, but the fault of their elected representatives who haven't the courage to speak plain truths and stick to them.

Likewise with you; you cannot simply speak the truth and abide by it.  You must denigrate and demonize, shout and scream, because you simply haven't a leg to stand on with your arguments, such as they are.  The GOP has proven useless, it does break its pledges, it always yields to 'the realities of the situation', except that one situation that conservatives are screaming about, that being that this country is in mortal peril and Washington's idea of spending cuts is $33B here and there, or undoing the spending cuts they themselves prescribed only a year back.

Yet for being angry about their waffling, we are traitorous.  Was there ever a more loyal and foolish bootlicker than you, Hollowpoint?

210 @197 -- "You're either young or stupid, Hollowpoint"

No need to assume a binary, in this particular instance.

211

And let me say something else.  For all you who tend to think that a moderate, easy going live and let live and has a lukewarm view on butffucking is the answer.

 

We JUST FUCKING DID THAT!!!  And the guy lost his ass against this POS President.

 

Now get your shine box and let the real conservatives run this shit.

212 @176 thunderb Obviously the IRS still has too much funding. The conservative celebs are under investigation for American activities.

213 You can't argue your way into being trusted, any more than you can argue your way into people thinking you're funny.

Posted by: Phinn at March 11, 2014 11:32 AM (KOGmz) 

Hey, it worked for me

214
Wind power creates jobs and strengthens American manufacturing
by John Feehery

Wind power is creating jobs, strengthening American manufacturing, and helping ensure our energy security. ThatÂ’s why Congress must extend the Production Tax Credit without further delay.

John Feehery is the Executive Director, Red State Renewable Alliance in Washington, DC.




Lord, what a whore.

215 Also, let us ponder for a moment that TFG is afraid of Pat Boone and Jessica Simpson. Now, to be fair, Pat Boone could probably still fuck your shit up. But Jessica Simpson? Really? Ponder that. Ponder. That. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 11:34 AM (VtjlW) Darlin, I was with you right up until the Pat Boone/Jessica Simpson thing. You totally lost me.

216 Some people insist on learning the hard way. This November the Republicans will learn.

217

tell your dumbass friend that a lesbian has been in charge of the fourth largest city, Houston, for years now

 

----------

 

Heh, thanks for that.  I had no idea.

 

Which will make for an interesting conversation, I think.  Me, the horribly bigoted conservative, had no idea a lesbian was in charge of Houston.  I didn't know.  Her sexuality was not germane to my opinion.  Just like the anti-bigots say it should be. 

 

Somehow I think I'll still be blamed for something.

218 Also, let us ponder for a moment that TFG is afraid of Pat Boone and Jessica Simpson.

And Alex Trebek.

Which gives me the mental image of SNL-style Celebrity Jeopardy with contestants Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and Nancy Pelosi.

Who would win, and would they have a score above zero?

219 Lizzie Warren: Feather or dot?

220 211 I see Drew has got the proud individualists all saying their proud individualist things in exactly the same way again. The barbaric yawps being sounded are all so individualistic, they form a perfect individualistic harmony.

If it is a day that ends in "y" there is a post from Drew whining about how the 5% on the extreme right don't run the other 95% of the Republican Party.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 11, 2014 11:37 AM (YhH+L)

So, rather than speak in generalities, why don't you just come right out and tell me exactly what part of my life you want to control? 

And then I'll tell you what I think about your proposal.  Deal?

221 Also, let us ponder for a moment that TFG is afraid of Pat Boone and Jessica Simpson. Now, to be fair, Pat Boone could probably still fuck your shit up. But Jessica Simpson? Really? Ponder that. Ponder. That. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 11:34 AM (VtjlW) I know, right!? He has got some serious issues. His skin is so thin it's barely there. He's going to be much worse than Carter post-presidency, responding to every perceived slight.

222 I'm personally looking forward to being blamed yet again by TPTB when McConnell loses to the Democrat in Kentucky.



Me, too, when   whoever  wins the Republican primary here in NH loses to Shaheen.    If Scott Brown ever decides to actually get his ass in gear and     declare that yes, he is in fact going to run   (last I heard he was putting off that decision TILL FUCKING JUNE), then if/when he loses we'll be blamed for not voting for him because he's   "not conservative enough."    If he doesn't get his ass in gear and declare that no, he is not going to run,  then we'll be blamed for not getting behind The Other Guy,  not donating enough time and money to their campaign,   not  doing enough to get Shaheen out of the Senate.



Here's an idea, NH GOPe.   Tell Scott Brown to go fuck himself and his carpetbagging   ass and   put your support behind   someone else, full bore.    When did we become    slaves   to   Massachusetts' rejects?

223 Also, let us ponder for a moment that TFG is afraid of Pat Boone and Jessica Simpson. Now, to be fair, Pat Boone could probably still fuck your shit up. But Jessica Simpson? Really? Ponder that. Ponder. That. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 11:34 AM (VtjlW) The power of titties compels.

224 Also, let us ponder for a moment that TFG is afraid of Pat Boone and Jessica Simpson. Now, to be fair, Pat Boone could probably still fuck your shit up. But Jessica Simpson? Really? Ponder that. Ponder. That. Posted by: alexthechick - she is quite rich. Mega rich. From her shoe company

225 C'mon, I used the break command in my post... what do I have to do to get some consistent formatting? x.x

226 trumpetdaddy @ 211 -- "This is my son, in whom I am well pleased."

227 IRS:  Obama-style Stasi

228 I cannot fathom that after all of the revelations about how the IRS is being run as a political tool for the democrats, that the house has not presented a bill to close it and replace it with a consumption tax.

229 easy going live and let live andhas a lukewarm view on butffuckingis the answer. Posted by: prescient11 at March 11, 2014 11:37 AM (tVTLU) Going to go out on a limb and post that I've never met anyone who has a lukewarm view on buttfucking. Folks is generally for or against, fairly vehemently.

230 Just came from a meeting where I learned about Operation Ardent Sentry (2014). This operation is defined as a 'functional exercise focusing on military support to civilian authorities.'


This concerns me.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 11, 2014 11:36 AM (fwARV)

That concerns   me, too.    WTH?

231
"The Republican Party used to fall in line, but now, it is seemingly falling apart."





There's nothing I can do.

A total eclipse of the heart

232 So anyway, what exactly are the R's running on?

233 Fall in Line ... not enough Republican leaders have basic military leadership experience to know that the leaders have do twice as hard what they expect the troops to do. 

This clown, bemoaning his loss of influence, doesn't get it.  His kind of scum is at their most effective when the population is content, the grassroots asleep, and the media off tripping thru the daisies.  By inflating government and pounding the media crisis drums every week - the people are awakening.  If they want to get back to making big bucks tinkering with the margins - make government inconsequential and boring.  Then put on a grey suit, fade, and shut the F up

234

I used to really like reading Hollowpoint, but his posts are more of the same shit.  And entirely wrong.  If he was right sometimes it would be worth the read.

 

If we take that view, we would have had President McCain, who quite possibly could have been the only President to switch parties while sitting.

 

I still blame myself for that vote.  But we are supposed to support the party right??  The GOPe's biggest problem is that we are all fucking awake now.  No more bullshitting.  And seeing Romney's comment about the AZ religious freedom law, fuck him fuck him fuck him fuck him.

 

Never again you motherfuckers.  Run Christie.  hahahahahahahahahahaha.  Reap the whirlwind you stupid bastards.

235
Of all of the problems facing this country, the one that has the biggest impact on the future of the country - the debt - is rarely mentioned.


These people aren't serious.  $167 billion to service the debt in the last fiscal year.  That money can't be spent on anything the right or the left would like to spend it on.  That is at nearly 0% interest.  What happens if interest rates go to Clinton era rates?  Multiply that number by 7!   Over $1 Trillion a year in debt servicing alone.

They're not serious - except they are serious about getting theirs while the getting is still good.

236
This slimeball and his fellow lobbycretins lose money when govt gets smaller, they want none of that.  Effem.

237 Just came from a meeting where I learned about Operation Ardent Sentry (2014). This operation is defined as a 'functional exercise focusing on military support to civilian authorities.' This concerns me. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 11, 2014 11:36 AM (fwARV) The fuck?????

238 There's nothing I can do. A total eclipse of the heart Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 11, 2014 11:42 AM (kdS6q) Oh, to the barrel with you!

239 If it is a day that ends in "y" there is a post from Drew whining about how the 5% on the extreme right don't run the other 95% of the Republican Party.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 11, 2014 11:37 AM (YhH+L)

Aww, cheer up, you have the early morning thread for your GOPe comfort and hatred of "those stupid TP people"

240 Ace is up.  Run corgis run!!

241 This operation is defined as a 'functional exercise focusing on
military support to civilian authorities.'

Remember when FEMA camps were a fever dream with no evidence to back them up?

242 Just came from a meeting where I learned about Operation Ardent Sentry (2014). This operation is defined as a 'functional exercise focusing on military support to civilian authorities.' This concerns me. Posted by: Washington Nearsider that is in no way legal

243 http://tinyurl.com/mmm4pwt http://youtu.be/tq08yOneY_0 Awww, why didn't you tell the Horde about your new dog? http://bit.ly/1foP08g I hate the contempt as much as anyone. Like I said, in a perfect world they're all sitting there asses on the curb. But as we all know, this world ain't perfect by a long shot. So I'm gonna do my best to make the best decision that I can given the circumstances in front of me. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 11, 2014 11:33 AM (da5Wo) Part of the issue is that information with which to make the best decision is, at best, hidden when it has not been completely misrepresented. See re: Rubio, garbage fucking of. When Republicans routinely lie and prevaricate and triangulate and reach across the aisle to work with their good friends and then acted all shocked and surprised when conservatives have the temerity to point out these minor facts, well, it tends to breed a wee bit of frustration. Look, we're back to there being no perfect solution. The nuclear option is withhold time and money and votes but even then it's difficult to see that the GOP will learn the appropriate lesson therefrom. Thus, all that's left is rage rage against the dying of the light. Look, can we just all agree that McCain is a raging jackass?

244

They're not serious - except they are serious about getting theirs while the getting is still good.

-

I now honestly believe they all know it is going down badly, and are just filling their coffers before the implosion.

245 Posse Comitatus cant be done lawfully

246 tell your dumbass friend that a lesbian has been in charge of the fourth largest city, Houston, for years now

and don't forget Ed Koch or NY

dumbass friend is a dumbass

Posted by: thunderb at March 11, 2014 11:34 AM (zOTsN)

1)   Houston's in Texas, so doesn't count

and

2)   Lesbians are kind   of like the   also-rans of the LGBTBBQ Mafia.     They're just as loud and    aggravating but they don't   play so well in the    media.    Being a flaming    lesbian   is less of   a     visual     bonanza than being a flaming gay  man     (see  Johnny Weir),     a transgender,    or a tranny.

247

Tangonine:

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm very pro buttfucking.  I'm just not in favor of sending Christians to camps for refusing to provide forced labor to celebrate it.

 

As apparently are the people of Oregon.    Serious lines are being crossed you buttfuckers.  You are way the fuck out of line.

248

 

 

@ 200

 

Jessica Simpson?   Hmmmm,, Yeah I'd hit....

249 Posse what?

250 Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 11, 2014 11:37 AM (YhH+L) So, rather than speak in generalities, why don't you just come right out and tell me exactly what part of my life you want to control? And then I'll tell you what I think about your proposal. Deal? Something about blowing something.

251 How many divisions does this posse have?

252 Who would win, and would they have a score above zero? - No one would win because no one would have any money to go into final jeopardy although Barry would threaten to hold his breath until he passes out if they don't raise his debt ceiling.

253 "219
Some people insist on learning the hard way.

This November the Republicans will learn.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 11, 2014 11:38 AM (BAqy2)"

This is where I think you are wrong.  They will not learn.  Ever.  They would rather join with Democrats than allow conservatives to ever win.

Something similar happened in Canada for about 20 years and the result was that the leftists ran wild, imposing their vision on a once sane and normal country. 

254 240 Just came from a meeting where I learned about Operation Ardent Sentry (2014). This operation is defined as a 'functional exercise focusing on military support to civilian authorities.' This concerns me. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 11, 2014 11:36 AM (fwARV) The fuck????? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 11, 2014 11:42 AM (da5Wo) meh. the whole "military turns against us" thing doesn't play out well in America. As all our vets here can surely attest, when we roll across the young bucks in our travels you know there's no way they point a weapon at a citizen. Too much infowars.

255 nood

256 Totally unrelated to anything, and no one cares but me, but my pleasant surprise for the day - Mom called and wants to take ME to lunch. And it's going to hit 74° today to boot. Already high 60's... Thanks, Manbearpig!

257 Operation Ardent Sentry has been going on since at least 2007, fyi.

258 according to Forbes Jessica Simpson is personally worth 150 million dollars her shoe and clothing line has a billion dollars in sales annually a billion

259
btw johnny boy, I don't need to trust my fellow citizens or the politicians, what I need is for these bastards in DC to follow a plainly written constitution.

For instance, nowhere there does it say the govt has a right to interfere in my health care, despite butt-pirate john roberts calling it a tax.

260 If you're going to post Jaime Pressly, post Jaime Pressly. http://tinyurl.com/jvwvr88 NSFW He, I actually do love English Bulldogs and would love to own one. Total couch potato dog. Look, can we just all agree that McCain is a raging jackass? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 11:43 AM (VtjlW) And the motion passes with unanimous consent.

261 Totally unrelated to anything, and no one cares but me, but my pleasant surprise for the day - Mom called and wants to take ME to lunch. And it's going to hit 74° today to boot. Already high 60's... Thanks, Manbearpig! Posted by: shredded chi at March 11, 2014 11:47 AM (rm6R4) I was going to say have a few drinks for the Horde but if you're going with your Mom that would be suboptimal.
Corgis, corgis, corgis, keep them corgis tumbling, nood post!

262 In addition to all the other points Drew makes, I'm gonna need some evidence for this statement: "It is no surprise that the millennial generation is the most self-absorbed in history. Its members learned it from the baby boomers." I presume Feehery is a Gen-Xer like me, and I'm unaware of the source of this one-generation-skipping property of self-absorption he posits. If you believe Strauss & Howe, the Millennials should actually mirror the Boomers' parents more than they do the Boomers themselves, but it's of a piece with the rest of that POS article that Feehery conveniently absolves his own cohort of any responsibility.

263 Don't get me wrong, I'm very pro buttfucking. I'm just not in favor of sending Christians to camps forrefusing to provideforced labor to celebrate it. As apparently are the people of Oregon. Serious lines are being crossed you buttfuckers. You are way the fuck out of line. Posted by: prescient11 at March 11, 2014 11:45 AM (tVTLU) First: your opening sentence is somewhat disturbing, but hey... to each his own Second: getting on a plane to Oregon tomorrow. One of 3 states I've never visited so I'll cross that off the list. Best friend is a deputy sheriff so we'll be terrorizing the motoring public. I'll take pictures.

264

Jamie Pressley? 

 

Hmmmm,,  yeah I'd hit that too....

265 Republican Party, 03/09/14:  "We're going to crush the Tea Party this year!"

Republican Party, 03/11/14:  "Why won't you Tea Partiers fall in line and vote for us???"

Stoopid is as stoopid does.

266 "238
Of all of the problems facing this country, the one that has the biggest impact on the future of the country - the debt - is rarely mentioned.


These people aren't serious. $167 billion to service the debt in the last fiscal year. That money can't be spent on anything the right or the left would like to spend it on. That is at nearly 0% interest. What happens if interest rates go to Clinton era rates? Multiply that number by 7! Over $1 Trillion a year in debt servicing alone.

They're not serious - except they are serious about getting theirs while the getting is still good.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 11, 2014 11:42 AM (BZAd3)"

Instapundit is fond of saying that something that can't go on forever won't.  Promises that cannot be kept won't be kept.  Debts that cannot be repaid won't be repaid.

267 205 Just came from a meeting where I learned about Operation Ardent Sentry (2014). This operation is defined as a 'functional exercise focusing on military support to civilian authorities.'

This concerns me.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at March 11, 2014 11:36 AM (fwARV)

I guess the level of my concern depends on the nature of the support. Planning, logistics, cheerleading, no problem. More than that and we've got a problem with the Posse Comitatus Act.

268 I was going to say have a few drinks for the Horde but if you're going with your Mom that would be suboptimal.  ----------- ATC, oh, she knows I like my booze. If the horde can come to a consensus, we can all share one big drink. Different straws, though - I've heard stories about you guys & gals.

269 Snake sock off.

270 Oh, for the days of GOP Minority Leader Bib Michael - now, there was a "leader" who understood fall into line!

271 Trigg's Mom for president.

272 I know Ardent Sentry's been going on for awhile, but how do you justify it.  Legally, I mean, not ethically.

273

Tangonine:  Safe travels, never been to OR although I do business w/ some people there.

 

Washington:  I think it's just disaster relief/support roles, so that kind of training surely can be justified I think.

274 Thunderb:  No shit!  wow.

275

John Feehery, President, QGA Communications. Longest-serving spokesman for a Republican Speaker of the House in U.S. history, fmr. head of global government relations and communications at the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA). Often on MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews and CNN's Crossfire, sometimes on HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher.

 

 

Yeah, this guy is full of win.....

276 Wonder if this is the same Douche who tried to rein in Beck, which he lamented on his show.

Would not surprise me - even our local GOP guys are lock-step and "just give and shut up" types.  Why I went Indy, and left the party.

Until the all obtain spines, retire the RINOs, and begin to restore the Republic and republican ways, they are off the island.

Gosh, even Ronnie said the Party left him - kinda feel a kindred moment...

277 Well I think I got his message. 1) Society has issues from a lack of social institutions and a bit too much individualism without societal interaction. I can see that argument. 2) Therefore Government should replace all social institutions and everyone should give up their individualism in favor of the Government. And now I want to punch him in the face until i can't move my arm anymore. My Church, the Shriners, the American Legion, the local bowling league... these differ from the Government in one subtle, but important way. They have NEVER sent a SWAT team to someone's home in the middle of the night to force compliance to their will. Ok, maybe the Secret Organization of Killing Everyone who Talks About the Secret Organization (SOKETASO) does that; but that's the only one I can think of who engage in that activity. And I'm not happy with them to begin with (and vice-versa it seems). When every discussion with you carries the undertone of "or else I'll send men with guns to force you to do it my way" you end up with a problem. When you push this as the only way to promote society and reduce individualism; you really look like a fascist pushing pseudo-slavery.

278 I know Ardent Sentry's been going on for awhile, but how do you justify it. Legally, I mean, not ethically. IRS. ACA. NSA. Seriously, I don't think "legal" and "constitutional" are high on this Administration's list of concerns.

279 "it's time" a major city had a gay leader. Houston has had a lesbian for a few years already.

280 @279 Yeah, actually, he is.  He gets paid to share his opinions.  Well paid.  Meanwhile, everyone on this board, myself included, is not being paid to share ours.  We're running our mouths for free. 

Secondly, people in a position to make change take his phone calls and listen to his opinions.  Also a big difference from most on this board.

So, yeah, I'd say he's made of win.  Quite a lot of win.

281 There's only one real reason to vote for Republicans, as near as I can tell--foreign leaders seem to be a little leery of crossing Republican presidents, as opposed to walking all over Democrats (with the Democrats supplying the shoes, of course).

As far as domestic reasons, I see no difference between the parties.  They both want to feed the federal beast with as much money as they can grab.

282 Posted by: baldilocks filipova at March 11, 2014 11:18 AM (36Rjy) If someone is a Columbia, or Berkeley, or NYU grad they're already halfway down the road of complete contempt. --tangonine Granted, but that's not what I mean. I don't think he ever was accepted there by the usual means. I think he was *given* the credential by the Organized Left. Sound crazy, doesn't it? Well, the occurrences of last six years would have sounded crazy also, had they been predicted.

283 @284 -- "So, yeah, I'd say he's made of win. Quite a lot of win."

We should sit down and exchange notes on pants legs, sometime.

284 224 Also, let us ponder for a moment that TFG is afraid of Pat Boone and Jessica Simpson. Now, to be fair, Pat Boone could probably still fuck your shit up. But Jessica Simpson? Really? Ponder that. Ponder. That. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at March 11, 2014 11:34 AM (VtjlW) I know, right!? He has got some serious issues. His skin is so thin it's barely there. He's going to be much worse than Carter post-presidency, responding to every perceived slight. Posted by: Mainah at March 11, 2014 11:39 AM (659DL) The issue: narcissism. Narcissists view anyone who disagrees with them as the enemy and a threat. Anyone.

285 Hey, listen you fucking TeaBaggers!

We're going to crush you wacko-birds as we make room in our BIG TENT for Disenfranchised Immigrants, Unions, Gay-Homo-Nazis, and HealthCare for ALL!

Because we can never WIN unless we become DEMOCRATS!!!!



*with "friends" like us - who needs enemas?*

286 people in a position to make change take his phone calls and listen to his opinions.

It's pretty clear the last thing this fucking courtier is interested in is anyone making any changes.

287 people in a position to make change take his phone calls and listen to his opinions.

It's pretty clear the last thing this fucking courtier is interested in is anyone making any changes.

288 "Liberals are even more anti-establishment than the Tea Party." Well, at least he's an equal-opportunity clueless idiot.

289 "Liberals are even more anti-establishment than the Tea Party." Well, at least he's an equal-opportunity clueless idiot.

290 Well, I agree it's a hateful chore to have to vote for RINO scum. But when you hold your nose and do the dirty deed - remember that you're not voting for the RINO. You're voting for the great nation-saving institution of gridlock. The US is the walking dead - American culture is destroyed. All we're doing is slowing the progress of the cancer while we wait and hope for the eschaton. So, abandon all hope of fixing this place - only events way outside out control will serve as a corrective.

291 Might we be better off killing all the lobbyists instead of all the lawyers?  I'm sure if Shakespeare had ever met a lobbyist he would agree.

292 253 Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 11, 2014 11:37 AM (YhH+L)



So, rather than speak in generalities, why don't you just come right out and tell me exactly what part of my life you want to control?

And then I'll tell you what I think about your proposal. Deal?



Something about blowing something.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2014 11:46 AM (E7Zh9)

Trumpetdaddy won't come out and say what he'd like to control (were it not for my staunch-but-misplaced individualism).

But I have a guess that my response to any proposal he'd make would start with "Fuck" and end with "you." 

293 Feehery: There is little patience to follow the leaders within the GOP. Trust has broken down. The movement will not be satisfied. Aggie: How would you like to suck my balls? Feehery: What did you say? Aggie: I said...excuse me *grabs megaphone* HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUCK MY BALLS, MR. FEEHERY?

294 I love how he started off with the cursory recitation of de Toqueville's observations about civic institutions that was covered by Ace a couple of days ago, then attempts to use that to justify the exact opposite of what de Toqueville said made the US unique. What the fuck is this idiot on about? I never got the chance to meet this particular lobbyist, but if he's like the other self-appointed "Super Lobbyists" that I've met in my life, he's probably a moderately-intelligent super-sized ego stuffed into a navy blue suit with some expensive shoes. That is, an asshole.

295 The problem with voting Republican because they are better than the alternative is that they often aren't on the important issues and continuing to vote for them means the party establishment has no incentive to change. I'm pretty much of the opinion that if Jeb Bush gets the Republican nomination, I'm going to donate money to Hillary. Because if your going to enact the Democrat party's agenda, you might as well let a Democrat do it. And what difference does it make to me which group collects the vig?

296 @54: Glad to hear it, and I hope all fellow Republicans will do the same.

297 So, yeah, I'd say he's made of win. Quite a lot of win. Care to name the candidates he's promoted, and have actually, you known, won? And not the bandwagon candidates. The folks who against the odds beat out the competition. Were he "wins" is in that he gets paid to give advice, and you're right, a lot of the "movers" and "shakers" in the GOP engage him that way, but does any one actually look at the results of that advice? He's telling us the same shit McCain told us: sit in the back of the bus, keep your mouth shut and your wallets open. Well, bunkie, if you ain't gonna listen to what I have to say, I'm going to be keeping that wallet shut.

298 Wow. It is almost like they were Libertarians talking to soCons, isn't it?

299 Let me put it this way John. If Bevin doesn't win his primary against your boy McConnell, I will send money to his democrat challenger. I have NEVER sent a dime to a democrat in my life, but I'm not to old to try something new.

I'm of a similar mind set.  I've sent money to Carr, bit if LameR Alexander wins the primary, I'll sit on my hands.  If it looks like he'll win, I'll vote for the Dem.  I will draw the line at sending money.  I need my money like a pig needs slop.

300

@284

 

Actually, I think the guy is a total douche canoe.

 

But, it doesn't matter what I think, because he makes big money, and other douche canoes listen to him. 

 

I should learn to respect my betters, I guess.

 

 

301 @294 I don't want to control anything of your's and nothing in what I have posted on this subject would indicate otherwise.  My point is that Drew has a designated role at this site; to post every day some sort of anti-RINO/anti-establishment screed, no matter how thin the source material, to thus generate site hits from all the "rugged individualists" in the site's audience, who can be counted on to react (and hit the site) in exactly the same ways.

@296 Why do you assume his recitation of Tocquevillian "mediating institutions" is cursory?  Why wouldn't you assume just as easily that taking as anodyne, banal, and boilerplate an observation as "Republicans used to fall in line" as some kind of war-cry to rally to the barricades as just as cursory a nod to "just cause" in Drew's screed for today?  The fact that the linked article is so banal and commonplace and middle-of-the-road in it's observations about changing social patterns should be evidence that it was merely the flimsiest of scaffolding upon which Drew chose to hang today's traffic-driving screed.

@299 Yeah, he is personally winning.  And the people in elected office who listen to him are by definition winning, or they wouldn't be in elected office.

302 Presidents Dole, McCain, and Romney all agree he's not whining or otherwise acting, and writing, unreasonably.

303 Washington Nearsider, #205: "This operation is defined as a 'functional exercise focusing on military support to civilian authorities.'" Thunderb, #245: "that is in no way legal." It is, though. I'm not familiar with this exercise, but generally, Defense Support to Civilian Authorities (which is a thing that has its own acronym, DSCA) isn't about law-enforcement. It's about responding to a disaster, natural or man-made, that overwhelms local assets to the point where National Guard or even federal assets need to be called in. The Army Reserve (as opposed to National Guard when called up under state orders) has pretty strict restrictions on what it's allowed to do on our home turf. They would be subordinate to civilian authorities, and mainly there to leverage logistical capabilities and military-level coordination. An attempt by those authorities to use them for law enforcement would be an illegal order - the kind we're not only allowed but obligated to refuse.

304 Washington Nearsider, #276: Kaa at #271 has it just about right.

305 I'm denouncing this post for "cultural resentment".

306 " An attempt by those authorities to use them for law enforcement would be an illegal order - the kind we're not only allowed but obligated to refuse. Posted by: JPS at March 11, 2014 01:30 PM (Z56rZ) " Such as door to door weapons confiscation without warrants or a court order?

307 Im kicking around the thought of voting a straight democrat ticket. What harm could it do, really. I'm not staying home. I'm not sutting up and sitting down but I am on the verge of making a personally bold statement by voting for the Bolsheviks for shits and giggles.

308

The first step to understanding is to accurately describe the situation.  I'll give him that much.  Now he just needs to get to asking "Why would the Tea Party people lose trust and faith in the Republican Party and other institutions?"

 

If he even takes the time to listen to what has been clearly said, then he might figure it out.  I give him another two years to have an "Aha!" moment.

309 Chris_Balsz, #308: "Such as door to door weapons confiscation without warrants or a court order?" I keep reading references to that, but I hadn't yet joined the military when that happened. Forgive my ignorance, but who did that: National Guard or federal forces? I don't like it either way, just wondering. I can tell you that in the DSCA scenarios I've participated in, *no* discussion or training focuses on controlling the population - and in the Army, everything is rehearsals, rehearsals, rehearsals. It's all been about planning, logistics, communications, and how to communicate to the general public. (Helpful hints on doing that last one: Stay in your lane, don't speculate, don't editorialize, and don't fucking lie about anything, ever.)

310 Feehery attacks the people who've been betrayed for losing trust and makes the betrayers into the victims. I'm sick of being Clintonized by consultant-class weasels like Feehery, Luntz and Rove. The leadership stepped out on us. They have no right to ask for trust, much less petulantly demand it as their divine right. It's not my fault that you sold out and whatever happens, be it a primary challenge or a Democratic win in your district, YOU did this to yourself when YOU sold out.

311 I didn't leave the Republican Party, the Republican party left me!

312 Bi-Partisian usually means that the Citizen gets screwed. I want no part of it. Fight and Fight like hell for the principals of those that elected you or go freaking home! I have sent my resignation letter to the Republican Party. I am still a Conservitive while republicans aren't and I lean more toward 1776 libertarian every day.

313 The combination of
Blackmail from the NSA and CIA (and Israel who gets all the data).
Massive lobbyist bribes.
Corrupted Primary Elections designed to rebuff challengers who offer real change
An insular culture in DC devoid of contact with the real America.

Mean that the current system is broken beyond repair, the issue now is what would work and what is necessary to crash the current system to implement it.

I suspect that the crashing may happen sooner than people suppose.

314 Feehery has a selective memory.  It was the Chamber of Commerce that declared war on the Tea Party.

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