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August 19, 2013

Review of Christian Nation From USAToday
— Ace

Oh, you know when I said "F3" probably stands for "Fox 3," like Fox has now taken over four or five channels? So that they're F1, F2, F3, etc.? Like you can watch whatever you want, so long as it's Fox?

Ehh, I guess that was sort of clever because that's not what F3 is. So I guess the author missed a chance to be clever. I know, don't be shocked.

It's called F3 because...

Fox News merges with the Faith & Freedom Coalition, the political arm of conservative Christians, to form Fox Faith & Freedom News.

So F3 for three F's.

It sort of gets sillier after that:

It opens in 2029, narrated by a survivor of a bloody civil war between "the Holies," the Christian fundamentalists who control the federal government, and the "Secs," the secular opposition centered in Manhattan.
The federal Purity Web Â– think Big Brother on steroids Â– has rewritten American history.
The novel's narrator, a young lawyer named Greg, slowly explains how dissent, homosexuality and abortion were outlawed.
....
In New York, the city's openly gay mayor, Christine Quinn, along with her wife, is gunned down at a gay wedding. (In real life, Quinn is a mayoral candidate. I find the fictional assassination of a living politician creepy, at best.) In San Francisco, the Air Force bombs the Castro neighborhood, killing 12,000 people, mostly gay men.

Sure, why not.

So, anyway, I don't know if you can tell this from the structure, but the book seems entirely undramatized. By which I mean: the reader is not present with the action when it is happening. It is told by the three protagonists, whose names are I guess "But Emilie," "And Greg," and "San dear," remembering what happened twenty years older, telling each other things in dialogue (or a dialogue-like substitute) that actually all of them would remember, so why are they narrating to each other the events of 2009-2029?

To the extent there is action, it appears to just be action of people attempting to correct each other as to their memory. So I guess that excerpt we have is representative: The "action" consists of people correcting each other.

zsasz called it "Daily Kos: The Novel." Seems spot-on. If Sartre had had the internet, he would have observed that Hell is other people correcting your minor typos forever.

Given that in 2029, when the book is actually set, there is an actual Civil War going on between the "Holies" and the "Secs" (hey that sounds like Sex! Clever!), it's kind of hard for me to believe they'd be sitting there yapping about Terri Schiavo. Note that Terri Schiavo isn't discussed all that often in 2013. In 2029, during a period of outright civil war, with tens of thousands of Gay Casualties and possibly even some bi- or straight ones, I gotta think it would be less relevant.

Oh, USAToday thought the book was crap. Or, as the Christian Nation page might say, "Required reading."

Thanks to @rdbrewer4.

Oh Dear Lord Thou Hast Provided Us Enough Comedy For The Day, Please Provide No More: Oh, you're going to love this: the Christian Nation study/review guide, from the publisher.

Is this a joke?

Preview: Someone is effing with us.

This cannot be real.

More: Lifted from noted hysteric Andrew Sullivan's silly site. (No, really, he has a whole post dedicated to this important book. Probably more than one, I'd guess, given he's so earnestly promoting it.)

Posted by: Ace at 05:31 PM | Comments (299)
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1 I don't wanna be first. Too much pressure.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 19, 2013 05:33 PM (ZFinx)

2 I think when we say "parody," they hear "completely random paranoid fantasy."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 19, 2013 05:33 PM (qyfb5)

3 Ace, how much do we have to hit the tip jar to actually get you to buy and review this entire abortion? Cause I was literally crying reading your earlier takedown, and that was only like 1/6 of a movie review.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 19, 2013 05:35 PM (ZFinx)

4 WTF? Oh, to live in a libs head for a day. The sights you would see.

Posted by: RWC at August 19, 2013 05:35 PM (uRqqf)

5 I hosey the "role" of Sanjay

Posted by: Matt Damon at August 19, 2013 05:36 PM (xGDj+)

6 The think is, it's not "milking fears," it's shouting blood libel. They're saying "your political opponents wast to enslave or kill you," and the galactic irony is that they're saying it to the portion of the political spectrum that holds several world records in enslaving and killing. It's so far beyond projection, it's not even a parody of funny.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 19, 2013 05:36 PM (qyfb5)

7 It's amazing how a certain segment of the American gay population are absolutely terrified of Christians, and figure that Christians are just waiting with the patience of spiders to uncork the Grand Gay Genocide, while meanwhile, being utterly oblivious to the fact that there is one (1) major religion in the world who actually do systematically exterminate outed gays when they get unchallenged political power.

And it's not the Christians.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 19, 2013 05:37 PM (gqT4g)

8 It's a singularity of stupid!

Posted by: Kreplach at August 19, 2013 05:37 PM (hmUex)

9 A writing style that is denser than three-day old pudding skin, but with none of the flavor.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 19, 2013 05:38 PM (pxDth)

10 I would say WTF but I'm too tired

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at August 19, 2013 05:38 PM (HVff2)

11 In San Francisco, the Air Force bombs the Castro neighborhood, killing 12,000 people, mostly gay men.

Assless chaps industry hardest hit.

Posted by: Sanjay at August 19, 2013 05:39 PM (Dwehj)

12 No problem with the lavatory;s here in Mexifornia the Moonbeam has never shown so brightly, he's full of stars!!!!

Posted by: RIDDLER at August 19, 2013 05:39 PM (4L2D1)

13 Can you say "mental disease". Seriously you guys.

Posted by: dogfish at August 19, 2013 05:40 PM (nsOJa)

14 Thought it was a tornado.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 19, 2013 05:40 PM (QDk4A)

15 feels fuckin' fantastic

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 19, 2013 05:40 PM (d7tB2)

16 It's funny how the "Party of No" and "the party of stripping the state down" fictionally becomes the "superstate government" the second it's convenient for paranoid leftist fantasies. I think we need to cut out the "cognitive dissonance" middleman and just redefine leftism as "simultaneously holding and believing contradictory ideas."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 19, 2013 05:41 PM (qyfb5)

17 11. Well at least they didn't fingerprint public housing residents!!

Posted by: Matt Damon at August 19, 2013 05:41 PM (xGDj+)

18 So this is the Lefties version of the Turner Diaries or something?

Do they read this to their offspring as ghost stories around the fake fire in their vaulted ceiling living rooms in tony neighborhoods?

Posted by: Nevyan at August 19, 2013 05:41 PM (AGtYr)

19 17 - wait, what???

Posted by: Matt Damon at August 19, 2013 05:42 PM (xGDj+)

20 They really do believe this by the way. They honestly think they're the last chance of keeping us from being a theocracy. The country has been around over 200 years, religion is exponentially the least influential it has ever been but somehow NOW we're going to fall into a theocracy. I had one friend tell me the only reason conservatives support Israel is because we think Jews need to be there for The Rapture. Even our support of Israel is illegitimate.

Posted by: Tommy V at August 19, 2013 05:42 PM (8tZ36)

21 So this is the Lefties version of the Turner Diaries or something? Posted by: Nevyan at August 19, 2013 09:41 PM (AGtYr) That's like half of the Sinestrosphere.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 19, 2013 05:42 PM (qyfb5)

22 The precautionary principle dictates that we must do whatever is necessary to prevent this from happening.

Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at August 19, 2013 05:42 PM (kxSZr)

23 Heh. I typed Sanjay and my Kindle auto-corrected it to 'Sashay'.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 19, 2013 05:42 PM (pxDth)

24 The Left really has morbid fantasies. There was a time when the Left was absolutely convinced that Obama was uniquely subject to assassination attempts because he was black. You know, like Reagan, Ford, etc. I really think they wanted it, as long as they could blame it on the Right, like they did the Kennedy assassination, committed by a communist.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2013 05:43 PM (T0NGe)

25 Sounds like a John Hughes movie.

Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2013 05:43 PM (ZNQKl)

26

SEE

THE

UPDATE

!!!!

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2013 05:43 PM (/IWYB)

27 Projection, it's not just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: CanaDave - We're all Rodeo Clowns now... at August 19, 2013 05:43 PM (Q3Q2H)

28 The Muslim Brotherhood is currently slaughtering Christians in Egypt and burning down churches.

Meanwhile, this book gets published.

These people are making it very, very hard to be Christ-like.

Posted by: Thorrison at August 19, 2013 05:43 PM (GdUWB)

29 the secular opposition centered in Manhattan. *laughs uncontrollably*

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 19, 2013 05:43 PM (JwyGe)

30 This is a fairly typical piece of lefty projection.

Posted by: Andy at August 19, 2013 05:43 PM (li+aS)

31 So, the 'Civil war' consists of liberals sitting around trying to out-snark each other while the conservatives bomb the crap out of San Francisco? Are we sure this is a liberal book?

Posted by: Paul at August 19, 2013 05:44 PM (Vf6xf)

32 It opens in 2029, narrated by a survivor of a bloody civil war between "the Holies," the Christian fundamentalists who control the federal government, and the "Secs," the secular opposition centered in Manhattan. Short war.

Posted by: toby928© takes dictation at August 19, 2013 05:44 PM (QupBk)

33 What a posting day, Ace! Great work.

Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2013 05:44 PM (HjPtV)

34 Where's Hilliary or Obama in the book? They come in and save mankind, right?

Posted by: dantesed at August 19, 2013 05:44 PM (9nLXu)

35 Study guide?
So, like, this is going to be added to course curricula?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 05:44 PM (el1mU)

36 I see Ashley Judd portraying "Emilie" in the movie adaptation. Sanjay will of course be played by Kal Penn.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at August 19, 2013 05:45 PM (BXLPR)

37 I had one friend tell me the only reason conservatives support Israel is because we think Jews need to be there for The Rapture. Even our support of Israel is illegitimate. Posted by: Tommy V at August 19, 2013 09:42 PM (8tZ36) "People who disagree with my ideology is *evil*" is the *premise*, all other facts must be made to comply with it, no matter how much you have to contort them. I honestly have no answer to the problem, but I know there are a lot of people on the left it is *impossible* to have a rational conversation with, largely for this reason. I would really like to, and I used to try a lot, but you can't establish a common set of facts.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 19, 2013 05:45 PM (qyfb5)

38 Study guide? Hahahahahaha. Oh, my sides.

Posted by: Andy at August 19, 2013 05:45 PM (li+aS)

39 In their world.. ☠$✝$☠ ☺☭☪☭☺

Posted by: RWC at August 19, 2013 05:45 PM (uRqqf)

40 Actually I seem unable to escape thinking of my version of Emilie, Sanjay, Greg, and Frederick. *sigh*

You see its all a plot by Greg. He fixed it so the Fix would have a flat out there. He was afraid Frederick would discover his dark secret of actually being a New Yorker. So Frederick had to go. Emilie and Sanjay since they are friends with Frederick, they had met at one of the posh little clubs. So poor trust fund Emilie and innocent Sanjay have to depart this mortal coil also. So they travel to the abandoned castle where one of Greg's friends has set things up. And once all is said and done, Greg will claim to be the sole survivor of another attack by the Jersey Devil while three bodies quietly decay in the acidic soil of the Barrens.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 05:45 PM (kENvx)

41 Is it a joke? No, but, it is from a non-Christian ...with a mental disease.

Posted by: dogfish at August 19, 2013 05:46 PM (nsOJa)

42 Q: What's the difference between this book and "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion"?

A: One is an obviously fictional representation of an alternate history where religious fundamentalists alter the course of geo-politics in sinister ways to benefit themselves, written to stir up secular hatred toward a mostly docile minority by claiming that the religious fundamentalists want to murder and enslave all right-thinking people, and the other is a trashy bit of anti-semitic propaganda.

Posted by: Komissar Vladimir at August 19, 2013 05:46 PM (3Nb/y)

43 Something like this...if d12 were involved it would be a scenario in a game. Like Traveller or Gamma World.

Without the fun.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Spleen Ultra! Now With Oxidizers! at August 19, 2013 05:46 PM (gmoEG)

44 It's funny how the "Party of No" and "the party of stripping the state down" fictionally becomes the "superstate government" the second it's convenient for paranoid leftist fantasies.

This part is at least arguable, that the "Party of Reagan" becomes the "Party of Hoover" the minute Team Red's lobbyists win. Check out George W Bush. More so McCain.

The McCain wing of the GOP really is militaristic and statist. Throw in Huckabee and. . .

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 19, 2013 05:46 PM (d7tB2)

45 just another liberal wet dream, like The Handmaid's Tale. Required reading and university study.

Posted by: aaaaaaa at August 19, 2013 05:46 PM (SRt/1)

46 I guess Palin's theocracy will distribute condoms, free birth control and free abortions on demand as a sort of stealth voluntary genocide of the "Secs". Oh, wait...

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 05:47 PM (el1mU)

47 >>>>SEE

THE

UPDATE

!!!!

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2013 09:43 PM

lol

Posted by: trey at August 19, 2013 05:47 PM (nqN6l)

48 They're saying "your political opponents want to enslave or kill you," The jokes on them, I don't want any slaves.

Posted by: toby928© prefers minions at August 19, 2013 05:47 PM (QupBk)

49 Given that in 2029, when the book is actually set But doesn't "Oh, Emilie" talk about the Schiavo case being "7 years ago" in that other excerpt? Sounds like some top-notch storycrafting going on here.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 19, 2013 05:47 PM (JwyGe)

50 Study guide: Mental Masturbation For Dummies

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at August 19, 2013 05:48 PM (Dwehj)

51 I think we need to cut out the "cognitive dissonance" middleman and just redefine leftism as "simultaneously holding and believing contradictory ideas." Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith Whether you were trying to be sarcastic or insightful, that is absolutely dead-on correct. That is the Left in nutshell. Why they can simultaneously praise all things Obama and yet turn a blind eye to every Constitutional perversion he has committed.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 19, 2013 05:48 PM (v6hyJ)

52 Soooo, we're fighting an opposition centered in Manhattan, eh? Disarmed Bloombergian Manhattan? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

(just wait till they see our Big Gulps of Mass Destruction.)

Posted by: "the Holies" at August 19, 2013 05:48 PM (sKgJ4)

53 "WTF? Oh, to live in a libs head for a day. The sights you would see."

Shudder. No thank you.

In my part of Commiefornia, there are "support groups" for liberal men. They get together and have a big long hard cry and then a group hug to help them get over the hideous trauma they've suffered.

Well, to be fair about this, I have considerable sympathy for people who have endured hideous trauma. A neighbor down the street when I was a kid always wore long sleeves to hide the tattooed number the Nazis had applied at Belsen. One guy I met was the sole survivor of a plane crash. A woman I went to school with had the rest of her family burn to death in a house fire while she watched. Another woman (who really really wanted kids) endured five agonizing miscarriages in a row and was left infertile by the last one, which devastated her.

So what are these libtard guys weeping over like the biblical Rachel? What is their particular version of hideous trauma for which they ask for help and understanding?

Having been circumcised in infancy.

No, really. I'm not making this up. There are "support groups" for this. These liberal guys get together and pull their own hair and tear their own clothes and beat their fists on the floor and babble messages of condolence to their lost foreskins.

THAT is the sort of stuff that goes on liberals' heads. Stay out of there. The crazy is deep, thick, gluey, and has a smell you'll never get out.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 19, 2013 05:48 PM (gqT4g)

54 My fav...

"At the end, Greg is looking out at the Hudson River, and Adam tells him that the Hudson is tidal, a river that flows both ways. Adam says that twice a day a hidden tide comes from the ocean and causes the river to flow upstream. What do you think he means? When Greg says he now understands, what do you think he means?"

It means the moon must be crushed as an evil Christian. And when Greg says he understands, it means Greg believes every batshit crazy thing another lib vomits.

Posted by: dogfish at August 19, 2013 05:48 PM (nsOJa)

55 I think question #5 is a easy one to answer.

Posted by: dantesed at August 19, 2013 05:49 PM (9nLXu)

56 If McCain/Palin had won and McCain had then died, what do you think would have happened to the country under a Palin presidency? I would never survive the 12 month hockey season.

Posted by: toby928© prefers minions at August 19, 2013 05:49 PM (QupBk)

poster to the article called it "a counterfactual history"

which is, um, also known as A LIE

buffoons

Posted by: thunderb at August 19, 2013 05:49 PM (zOTsN)

From the study guide:

At the end, Greg is looking out at the Hudson River, and Adam tells him that the Hudson is tidal, a river that flows both ways. Adam says that twice a day a hidden tide comes from the ocean and causes the river to flow upstream. What do you think he means? When Greg says he now understands, what do you think he means?

I think Adam is announcing that he is bisexual and Greg is high.

Posted by: Dr Alice at August 19, 2013 05:49 PM (OJKg3)

59 When a book is ranked at 23k like this drivel on Amazon, that means it is selling approximately 15 copies a day.

Posted by: Louisbille at August 19, 2013 05:49 PM (G1Yul)

60 So when's the movie coming out? And who's your picks for the "actors"?

Posted by: Freak Out! at August 19, 2013 05:49 PM (SRqmv)

61 20 They really do believe this by the way. They honestly think they're the last chance of keeping us from being a theocracy. They think a theocracy has something to do with religion. Any belief in the unshakable rightness of your cause can bring a "theocracy". It also helps when your prescriptions keep giving the opposite of their intended outcome. But a supernatural religion isn't the least bit necessary. The French and Russian revolutions had nominal atheists but the most vicious zealots any theocracy has ever seen.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2013 05:49 PM (T0NGe)

62 I hope nobody missed the prefiew/trailer.

Posted by: RWC at August 19, 2013 05:49 PM (uRqqf)

63 AHAHAHA! The catch-quote or whatever you call it at the bottom of the study guide is "Christian Nation: A Novel Â“They said what they would do, and we did not listen. Then they did what they said they would do.Â” Which means that the author and/or publisher thinks this sentence is the best single descriptor of the book. And they're right. Seriously, read that out loud.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 19, 2013 05:49 PM (ZFinx)

64 OMG that trailer!!!!!

(Btw, can that guy sound any more like an effeminate liberal douche?)

Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 19, 2013 05:49 PM (X/+QT)

65 So there is goingto be a test now? Will it be open book? Because if the answers aren't "And Sanjay" or "And Greg," I'm screwed.

Posted by: loneduck at August 19, 2013 05:50 PM (trhwS)

66 The author went to Ireland first to kiss the Blarney Stone but a wise Irish villager was there to avert tragedy. As the author scrunched his eyes closed and puckered up, the villager placed a horse's ass in front of the Stone.

"Why, that tastes like horseshit!"

"Yep, we hear that a lot. Now write something."

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 19, 2013 05:50 PM (ccXZP)

what if they made a movie

hollywood would greenlight this in a snap

Posted by: trey at August 19, 2013 05:50 PM (nqN6l)

68 >>>At the end, Greg is looking out at the Hudson River, and Adam tells him that the Hudson is tidal, a river that flows both ways. Adam says that twice a day a hidden tide comes from the ocean and causes the river to flow upstream. What do you think he means? When Greg says he now understands, what do you think he means?

this is actually a metaphor inserted into Dreams From My Father by likely ghostwriter Bill Ayers.

So he lifted this from his hero, it seems.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2013 05:51 PM (/IWYB)

69 But a supernatural religion isn't the least bit necessary. The French and Russian revolutions had nominal atheists but the most vicious zealots any theocracy has ever seen. Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2013 09:49 PM (T0NGe) The left tend to be emotion driven people. That's why logic doesn't work on most of their minions.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 19, 2013 05:51 PM (bb5+k)

70 Interesting how all those Christians founded the freedom-of-religion society 237 years ago but now all those Christians want to build a Theocracy. It's like all those non-theists want to hold on to the free society that the Christians gave them, and are terrified the Christians are going to take it away. Like Washington and Jefferson et al were all wiccans or something.

Posted by: An Infinite Number of Monkeys With Typewriters, Ltd. at August 19, 2013 05:51 PM (MMC8r)

71 In before average joe suckers everyone again.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 19, 2013 05:51 PM (zeC+e)

How did the poor souls of the great state of Alaska survive this religiously obsessed wench?

Or to put it another way Emilie, why did one of the least religious states in the union give Palin the highest approval ratings in the country?

This is Sanjay stating that I am confused. Greg, help me out with this.

Posted by: Sanjay What The at August 19, 2013 05:51 PM (n844K)

73 Oh my God, there's a trailer. I think it rivals Sharknado in production value.

Posted by: Thrawn at August 19, 2013 05:51 PM (Dsds2)

74 I'm willing to bet this author (who is a lawyer) had the publisher or one of the editors as a client and, in exchange for forgetting a few billable hours, they indulged him by letting him publish this.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2013 05:52 PM (T0NGe)

75 What the Actual Blue Bloody FuckÂ™ is not sufficient to convey the wealth of disbelief in my heart at this moment in time.

I live on in hopes that I shall one day find the words to communicate just how flabbergasted I am at this impotent leftist's masturbatory orgy of self-deceits.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 19, 2013 05:52 PM (1sp0T)

76 Whether you were trying to be sarcastic or insightful, that is absolutely dead-on correct. Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 19, 2013 09:48 PM (v6hyJ) If those are mutually exclusive, I'm in big trouble.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 19, 2013 05:52 PM (qyfb5)

77 Sort of related. The judge in Nidal Hasan's trial has decided, coincidentally supporting the Obama position, nobody needs to know Hasan's motive: jihad. Fantasize evils about one religion while systematically covering up the evils of another, the Left.

Posted by: Beagle at August 19, 2013 05:52 PM (sOtz/)

78 Isn't there a new kids cartoon called Sanjay and Greg? Where Greg is a talking snake?

Posted by: Crunchberry at August 19, 2013 05:52 PM (oIIni)

79 >>>"Christian Nation: A Novel
Â“They said what they would do, and we did not listen. Then they did what they said they would do.Â”

They are who we thought they were!

Posted by: a cameo by Denis Green at August 19, 2013 05:52 PM (sKgJ4)

80 36- kal penn? Sigh I was thinking the guy who played Samir in office space. "You are a very bad person Peter" But he said it wicked progressively, which i like

Posted by: Matt Damon at August 19, 2013 05:52 PM (xGDj+)

81 damn that fucking sock.

Posted by: zsasz at August 19, 2013 05:53 PM (MMC8r)

Study or discussion guides are now included in a lot of the big-name publishing house fiction to encourage reading groups to pick the book and guarantee group sales.

Posted by: Mustbequantum at August 19, 2013 05:53 PM (MIKMs)

83 They really do believe this by the way. They honestly think they're the last chance of keeping us from being a theocracy.

They think a theocracy has something to do with religion.

Even more AmishDude. Ask about Islam and see what they say.

Posted by: dogfish at August 19, 2013 05:53 PM (nsOJa)

84 Because if the answers aren't "And Sanjay" or "And Greg," I'm screwed.

Not as screwed as during the drinking-game, where you do a shot whenever those words are uttered

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 19, 2013 05:53 PM (d7tB2)

85 @48 Goddamn right. I can't afford the slaves I have to support already.

Know who the largest-volume user of slave labor was? The Federal government.
'S no wonder they're so touchy about it now.

Posted by: ariel castro at August 19, 2013 05:54 PM (JNUY4)

86 In San Francisco, the Air Force bombs the Castro neighborhood, killing 12,000 people, mostly gay men. *** You know, the current real government seems a lot more intent on killing Christians who are inconvenient - Waco, Ruby Ridge - then in targeting those from the other side of the spectrum...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2013 05:54 PM (zPVBH)

87 This is a Lefty 'Turner Diaries.'

Posted by: zsasz at August 19, 2013 05:54 PM (MMC8r)

88 They got the wise black professor role filled. Diversity baby.

Posted by: RWC at August 19, 2013 05:54 PM (uRqqf)

89 the author is a "he has studied at" = never graduated

quelle surprise

Posted by: Whack the Mole at August 19, 2013 05:54 PM (omBWL)

90 I think we need to cut out the "cognitive dissonance" middleman and just redefine leftism as "simultaneously holding and believing contradictory ideas."
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 19, 2013 09:41 PM (qyfb5)

Shows sophistication.

In other words, foolishness.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 19, 2013 05:54 PM (h0jlY)

91 my brother was (/is) a petty thief. always ready to grab a tool or something that is not being watched, but, he is also obsessed with security. He is a living example of the maxim that the thief is the one most worried about being robbed. Like ace's hamster, it is all he thinks about, so it is all he thinks other people think about. I think this is somewhat revealing of how the drones on the left think. *they* would totally use a false flag attack and take control of the country to advance their ideology. the only surprise is that they are so deep in denial that they do not see that they are not describing the right, in the future; but the left in the present.

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at August 19, 2013 05:55 PM (zZJJp)

92 87 This is a Lefty 'Turner Diaries.'

Posted by: zsasz at August 19, 2013 09:54 PM (MMC8r)

See comment #18

Posted by: Nevyan at August 19, 2013 05:55 PM (AGtYr)

93 Know who the largest-volume user of slave labor was? The Federal government. 'S no wonder they're so touchy about it now. Posted by: ariel castro at August 19, 2013 09:54 PM (JNUY4) They're still the largest volume user of slave labor. I certainly don't want to give them as much as I have to.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 19, 2013 05:56 PM (bb5+k)

94 It's like someone took the Turner Diaries and The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and Prairie Fire and put them in a blender for five minutes, and then published the results.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 19, 2013 05:56 PM (qyfb5)

95 #36: I'm thinking Danny Pudi (Abed from Community) as Sanjay. His rapid-fire deadpan delivery would make that torpid dialogue almost bearable.

Posted by: Journey at August 19, 2013 05:57 PM (LScnt)

96 Pureed poppycock perhaps?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 05:57 PM (kENvx)

97 What do you make of the relationship between Greg and Sanjay? NTTIAWWT.

Posted by: toby928© prefers minions at August 19, 2013 05:57 PM (QupBk)

98 The one part I found plausible is that McCain dies mysterious in Russia; It's obvious that Palin shot him with a ricin-laced bullet from her house over in Alaska.

Posted by: Thrawn at August 19, 2013 05:57 PM (Dsds2)

99 See comment #18 Posted by: Nevyan at August 19, 2013 09:55 PM (AGtYr) Congratulations, you beat me to it...but I'm still not reading the comments before I post.

It would be hilarious if this was written by Glenn Beck and he waited until it was a left-wing hit before he came out and dropped the anvil on them that it was all bait for their fever-dreams.

Posted by: zsasz at August 19, 2013 05:57 PM (MMC8r)

100 "When you read the text of Â“The Blessing," how much of it do you agree with or disagree with? What about your friends or family who are conservative ChristiansÂ—how many of these things do they think should be laws binding on all of us, whatever our religion? Have you ever discussed it with them?"

Hahahahahahaha. As if anyone who reads this shite actually interacts with conservative Christians. If they know any, they either ignore them or lecture them.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 05:57 PM (el1mU)

101 (applies Sok-B-Gon)

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at August 19, 2013 05:57 PM (LScnt)

102 They think a theocracy has something to do with religion. *** Yeah, this amuses me. To a liberal a theocracy is a government led by someone who is publicly religious. Which of course means almost all governments from the dawn of history until now were "theocracies" - including say the Henry IV when he...went to war with the papacy.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2013 05:57 PM (zPVBH)

103 His last book is going for $325 for hardcover.

Posted by: RWC at August 19, 2013 05:58 PM (uRqqf)

104 *they* would totally use a false flag attack and take control of the country to advance their ideology. They still think that Bush somehow did this after 9/11. They still think Bush is running the country, and Obama is powerless to stop him.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2013 05:58 PM (CeNUw)

105 This is the shittiest all-time premise for a book: "They" told me to sit down and write.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 19, 2013 05:58 PM (JwyGe)

106 " encourage reading groups to pick the book and guarantee group sales." Guys, I think we need to do a book club.

Posted by: Lauren at August 19, 2013 05:58 PM (ELdpj)

107 Sure would like to ask the author if the boy-king Prissy Putt a Christian or not.

Posted by: dogfish at August 19, 2013 05:59 PM (nsOJa)

108 >>>the author is a "he has studied at" = never graduated

nah he's a major lawyer so he graduated.

unless he did some vanity coursework at Harvard night school or something.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2013 05:59 PM (/IWYB)

109 Serious question, do all books get video trailers now? Am I out of the loop?

Posted by: toby928© prefers minions at August 19, 2013 05:59 PM (QupBk)

110 Is it ghey that in Book 12 of my scifi epic, there's a starship commander based on Sarah Palin?

http://tinyurl.com/lyvqo4t

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 19, 2013 05:59 PM (azHfB)

111 4 WTF? Oh, to live in a libs head for a day. The sights you would see. Posted by: RWC at August 19, 2013 09:35 PM (uRqqf) Speaking as someone who has been down that particular rabbit hole, you don't want that. It is seriously fucked up in there.

Posted by: BornLib at August 19, 2013 05:59 PM (zpNwC)

112 "The judge in Nidal Hasan's trial has decided, coincidentally supporting the Obama position, nobody needs to know Hasan's motive: jihad."

FFS, the perp openly admits that he's a jihadi. Proudly proclaims it over and over.

And yet the Obama administration insists that this was not the act of an enemy in wartime but merely "workplace violence", denying even Purple Hearts to those who the jihadi scumbag pumped bullets into.

While the command structure of the Pentagon meekly gulp and do as they're told instead of resigning en masse in protest.

I have younger family members to whom I would once have commended the idea of service in the American armed forces. That idea is now so far off the table that you can't even see it while standing on top of the table on tiptoes.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 19, 2013 06:00 PM (gqT4g)

113 *they* would totally use a false flag attack and take control of the country to advance their ideology. Funny thing...that's exactly what Obama did.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2013 06:00 PM (T0NGe)

114 They're still the largest volume user of slave labor. I certainly don't want to give them as much as I have to. Yep. I don't understand how having to give 30+% of my labor directly, and more indirectly to the government is not a violation of the 13th Amendment. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2013 06:00 PM (zPVBH)

115 Serious question, do all books get video trailers now? Am I out of the loop? Not all of them, but quite a few. ItÂ’s been a thing for at least a couple of years now.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2013 06:00 PM (CeNUw)

116 Y'all are killing me. Seriously, I just woke the baby up from laughing so hard. I <3 the.horde.

Posted by: Lauren at August 19, 2013 06:00 PM (ELdpj)

117 Listen for the Churchillian call for the defense of Manhattan!

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 19, 2013 06:00 PM (JwyGe)

118 including say the Henry IV when he...went to war with the papacy. He started his own sect, and made himself it's head, so yeah, maybe ...

Posted by: toby928© prefers minions at August 19, 2013 06:00 PM (QupBk)

119 They did a film on the inside of John Malkovich's head... don't think cast or crew were the same after that....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 06:00 PM (kENvx)

120 Whoah.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2013 06:01 PM (CeNUw)

121 Oops

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2013 06:01 PM (zPVBH)

122 not me.

Posted by: toby928© prefers minions at August 19, 2013 06:01 PM (QupBk)

123 18-1 barrel stat!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 06:01 PM (kENvx)

124

Posted by: dogfish at August 19, 2013 06:01 PM (nsOJa)

125 </b></b></b></b>

This guy didn't write this book so much as he sharted it.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2013 06:01 PM (/IWYB)

126 I blame the religious reich for sabotaging my bold tag.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2013 06:01 PM (zPVBH)

127 97 Pureed poppycock perhaps?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 09:57 PM (kENvx)

Respectfully, ma'am, I do not believe there are words in any known language sufficient to express just how unbelievably idiotic this 'novel' is. However, I am indeed keeping 'pureed poppycock' in my mind for future use. O.o

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 19, 2013 06:01 PM (1sp0T)

128 The battle for Manhattan is over. The battle for bolded text is about to begin.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2013 06:01 PM (CeNUw)

129 nah he's a major lawyer so he graduated. More importantly, the tuition checks didn't bounce.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2013 06:01 PM (T0NGe)

130 Ok, who decided to be bold?

Posted by: dantesed at August 19, 2013 06:02 PM (9nLXu)

131 However, I am indeed keeping 'pureed poppycock' in my mind for future use. What a waste of poppycock.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2013 06:02 PM (CeNUw)

132 The battle for bolded text is about to begin. *** They can take our lives but they can never take our html tags!!!!

Posted by: William Wallace at August 19, 2013 06:03 PM (zPVBH)

133 So does President Palin mandate weekly rodeos, held every Saturday?

Posted by: fluffy at August 19, 2013 06:03 PM (z9HTb)

134 In this universe, does Palin have a goatee by any chance?

Posted by: toby928© prefers minions at August 19, 2013 06:04 PM (QupBk)

135 But, 18-1, I say, perturbed yet amused, cannot you see that failing to close your tags will land you in the barrel?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 19, 2013 06:04 PM (d7tB2)

136 Watched the trailer, or most of it, until I couldn't take laughing so hard. What did me in was "the 1.7 million residents of Manhattan will fight you. We will fight you in every neighborhood, on every street." I couldn't help thinking of a line from the original Adventure game: "with what? Your bare hands?" The Palin fever dreams were funny, but the idea of an army of faux-aggressive leftists surging out of their coffee shops, hands perched aggressively on hips, scolding tongues ready, to hit the mythical theocrats with their purses...wow.

Posted by: Splunge at August 19, 2013 06:04 PM (bKA83)

137 'RWC thus turned to 18-1' "18-1', i believe that it is time for the barrel, 18-1"

Posted by: RWC at August 19, 2013 06:04 PM (uRqqf)

138 So he's sitting there typing away, and A Helpful Man walks in.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 19, 2013 06:04 PM (JwyGe)

139 Todd Palin with a goatee?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 06:04 PM (kENvx)

140 Did you know that Republicans want to set up video cameras in everyone's bedroom to make sure they're not committing adultery? It's true. #ChristianNation

Posted by: The Truth About Republicans at August 19, 2013 06:04 PM (ELdpj)

141 "Â“This riveting novel should join Sinclair LewisÂ’s It Can Happen Here as an American classicÂ…Please, read this book and then pass it on to six other people, making it into a chain letter for liberty.Â” Â— Nadine Strossen, former president, American Civil Liberties Union

OK, how much was she paid for this? Maybe she's a close, personal friend

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 06:05 PM (el1mU)

142 Did you know that Republicans want to set up video cameras in everyone's bedroom to make sure they're not committing adultery? Then we shall take it to the streets!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2013 06:05 PM (CeNUw)

143 >> 106 This is the shittiest all-time premise for a book: "They" told me to sit down and write. This is the "literary" device necessary to give an excuse to rant without talent enough to tell a story, provide dialog, suspense, plot, etc. Any idiot can rant out opinions (this comment here, for example) but to lay out a novel requires some talent. clearly none was involved here.

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at August 19, 2013 06:06 PM (zZJJp)

144 Kinlay Ardel, borrow away. Heck borrow my whole Sanjay, Emilie, Greg, and Frederick lost in New Jersey idea... or I might be tempted to really write it. Please save me.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 06:06 PM (kENvx)

145 "the 1.7 million residents of Manhattan will fight you. We will fight you in every neighborhood, on every street." If they supposedly bombed the Castro, why would Manhattan be a problem?

Posted by: zsasz at August 19, 2013 06:06 PM (MMC8r)

146 #134: What are we, barbarians? No, she instead mandates snowmobile races. Or, more precisely, snowmobile chases. The quarry is a tenured Ivy League professor.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at August 19, 2013 06:06 PM (LScnt)

147 "We in Manhattan will fight you! We will fight in our streets and alleys! We will fight for our dignities and our lives!..."

"... or more likely pay some minority immigrants to do it because fighting is icky and we might get hurt"

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 19, 2013 06:06 PM (azHfB)

148 Republicans also want women to wear burlap sacks. Not like the enlightened hajib though. These are different. They're...Christian.

Posted by: The Truth About Republicans at August 19, 2013 06:06 PM (ELdpj)

149 The quarry is a tenured Ivy League professor. IÂ’d buy that for a dollar.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2013 06:07 PM (CeNUw)

150 This whole thread is rapey racism.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at August 19, 2013 06:07 PM (sOtz/)

151

remember OWS?

they will defend NYC by raping each other and shitting in public, but mostly raping each other. They like that

Posted by: thunderb at August 19, 2013 06:07 PM (zOTsN)

152 From the "study guide"

"What do you think will happen next? Does the Free Minds movement have a chance? Does Greg have what it takes to be a leader?"
--
Should I link to that creepy YouTube video of the kids singing the Obama Song .... .. again?

Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2013 06:07 PM (HjPtV)

153 I'm literally crying from laughing after watching that You Tube video.

So...seeing as I'm behind enemy lines in NY, are there any covert ops anybody wants me to run?

Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 06:07 PM (YCDYX)

154 >> this is actually a metaphor inserted into Dreams From My Father by likely ghostwriter Bill Ayers. Yup. First thing I thought when I saw that, too.

Posted by: Andy at August 19, 2013 06:08 PM (li+aS)

155 I look forward to the mandatory Fossil Fuels Celebration Day as specified in "The Blessing". I can never decide how best to celebrate - monster truck rally? Off-road Hummer trip? Demolition derby?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 06:08 PM (el1mU)

156 BTW, how the hell is Manhattan going to fight everybody else when everybody else has all the guns?

Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 06:09 PM (YCDYX)

157 so basically it's The Ted Turner Diaries by Aaron Sorkin

Posted by: klosov at August 19, 2013 06:09 PM (L4Yva)

158 53 I don't doubt you for a second. I've seen some of the "literature" the foreskin worshipers put out.

Posted by: BornLib at August 19, 2013 06:09 PM (zpNwC)

159 Somehow, we failed, despite the fact that our bodies were not laden with sugar from 20oz drinks.

Posted by: Lance Corporal Emilie, 52nd Chai-Latte Division at August 19, 2013 06:10 PM (JwyGe)

160 I can never decide how best to celebrate - monster truck rally? Off-road Hummer trip? Demolition derby? Believe it or not, Iowahawk has one every year. Since the oppressive right-wing conspiracy is all about freedom, he lets you decide how to participate.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2013 06:10 PM (CeNUw)

161 " BTW, how the hell is Manhattan going to fight everybody else when everybody else has all the guns?"

Never mind the fighting, how are they going to eat with all of the restaurants closed?

Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2013 06:11 PM (HjPtV)

162 The study guide really seems to be a 'clever' post ludi to the story. One of the what ifs that Dean Ing posited at the end of Anasazi concerned ants consuming the dead alien bodies and what effect that would have on them. Another concerned about a human who sensed the alien Serenity Beam, only way the male aliens could stay rational without any females around, and a new cult was built on where the beam was buried.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 06:11 PM (kENvx)

163 Kinlay Ardel, borrow away. Heck borrow my whole Sanjay, Emilie, Greg, and Frederick lost in New Jersey idea... or I might be tempted to really write it. Please save me.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 10:06 PM (kENvx)

Sorry o_O I think I'll pass on that one. My personal sanity is tenuous at best these days. I don't want to end up in a straightjacket.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 19, 2013 06:11 PM (1sp0T)

164 @157 Rocket-power 18 wheeler drags should satisfy the fracking petroleum gods.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at August 19, 2013 06:11 PM (sOtz/)

165 they will defend NYC by raping each other and shitting in public, but mostly raping each other. They like that *** You forgot the drumming circles.

Posted by: Some Occutard at August 19, 2013 06:11 PM (zPVBH)

166 #160: I, for one, am eternally grateful that I was circumcised in infancy. It's so nice to have low-maintenance genitalia. Thanks, Mom!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at August 19, 2013 06:12 PM (LScnt)

167 Holy shit. In this book, when Palin did not say Â“I can see Russia from my houseÂ”, she was telegraphing a conspiracy with the Russians.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2013 06:12 PM (CeNUw)

168 "the 1.7 million residents of Manhattan will fight you. We will fight you in every neighborhood, on every street." 1) Turn off the water at the Hillview Reservoir. 2) Wait.

Posted by: toby928© prefers minions at August 19, 2013 06:12 PM (QupBk)

169 158 BTW, how the hell is Manhattan going to fight everybody else when everybody else has all the guns? Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 10:09 PM (YCDYX) If history is anything to go by: squatting in public parks, living in squalor, and occasionally raping each other while tweeting about it all on their iPads is their primary strategy.

Posted by: BornLib at August 19, 2013 06:12 PM (zpNwC)

170 Not the Drummers from The Diamond Age. Boy did Stephenson nail the OWS crowd with them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 06:12 PM (kENvx)

171 It's weird that he views Sarah Palin as part of the Christian right.

It's ignorance, but it shows his own bigotry about "those folks on the right."

Palin is a limited government conservative. Social conservatives are a different group.

But does he not see?

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 19, 2013 06:13 PM (Iyg03)

172 I think I will write a novel where soft socialists morph into speech-restricting Islamophilic nanny totalitarians. I will call it EU.

Posted by: Beagle at August 19, 2013 06:13 PM (sOtz/)

173 #171: "If history is anything to go by: squatting in public parks, living in squalor, and occasionally raping each other while tweeting about it all on ~~their~~ stolen iPads is their primary strategy."

FIFY

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at August 19, 2013 06:14 PM (LScnt)

174 toby928. Don't forget to blockade all entries to Manhattan. Or better yet, blow all except one and designate Manhattan a Liberal Reservation. You can go in but can never again leave.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 06:14 PM (kENvx)

175 I think it's time we held a national convention to divide the US into a Red Nation and a Blue Nation. This country's big enough to split but not big enough to share.

Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 06:14 PM (M+myo)

176 Plus, even among the so-cons, no one thinks like this. You know who does?

Jack-booted, lockstep leftists.

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 19, 2013 06:14 PM (Iyg03)

177 "BTW, how the hell is Manhattan going to fight everybody else when everybody else has all the guns?"

I absolutely LOVED the guy in Staten Island after Hurricane Sandy who said he was going to use his longbow to deal with gangs of looters.

Protip: this might work with a solo act, but unless you're Legolas, trying to use a longbow to fight five or six guys all rushing you at the same time is not likely to work out for the best.

In fact, dare I say, that is the tailor-made scenario for an Evil Black (assault) Rifle.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 19, 2013 06:15 PM (gqT4g)

178 His book is actually a huge example of psychological projection.

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 19, 2013 06:15 PM (Iyg03)

179
remember OWS?

they will defend NYC by raping each other and shitting in public, but mostly raping each other. They like that

Posted by: thunderb at August 19, 2013 10:07 PM (zOTsN)

I've been ranting about this to my gamer group lately.

Elsewhere in the world, when the people are fed up with the lies and prevarications of their government, or whatever it is that is angering them, they riot. They destroy property, and attack authority. Are they always right in their motives? No. Are they usually right? Debatable...

But one thing we can all agree on is that its less embarassing to see young men ready to take on all comers over the future of their country, than it is to see erstwhile adults fling bags of dung and balloons of urine at their 'opponents'. Put aside that the Leftists' motivations are all bullshit, it isn't the point.

Elsewhere in the world, when they protest, they fight. Here? Our malcontents fling shit around like damned monkeys.

I demand a better brand of protestor. -_-

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 19, 2013 06:15 PM (1sp0T)

180 Kinlay Ardel, lol. No worry. I figure now that I have released into the Net, vast and wide, someone will probably run with it. Just not me. I have too many projects as is.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 06:15 PM (kENvx)

181 The book ends when Manhattan tips over.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 19, 2013 06:15 PM (ccXZP)

182 147 "the 1.7 million residents of Manhattan will fight you. We will fight you in every neighborhood, on every street." If they supposedly bombed the Castro, why would Manhattan be a problem? Posted by: zsasz at August 19, 2013 10:06 PM (MMC8r) Well Manhattan is valuable to them, so they assume it is valuable to their enemy. Poor assumption.

Posted by: BornLib at August 19, 2013 06:17 PM (zpNwC)

183 i'm gonna have to break down and buy this POS

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2013 06:17 PM (/IWYB)

184 ...for the good of the horde no less. Somebody has to do it.

Posted by: dogfish at August 19, 2013 06:18 PM (nsOJa)

185 185 i'm gonna have to break down and buy this POS

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2013 10:17 PM (/IWYB)

Do it Ace! We're counting on you to do what no one else can!

No, in all seriousness, don't do it. >_> There are some things just so stupid that they should not be touched... no good can come of this.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 19, 2013 06:19 PM (1sp0T)

186 In a world where the Government can tell you who and how to screw, one woman stands alone Fluke. Coming in August 2019, and September, and November ...

Posted by: that movie announcer guy at August 19, 2013 06:19 PM (QupBk)

187 i'm gonna have to break down and buy this POS I don't know how you'd go about it, but why not see if you can scam a review copy.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 19, 2013 06:19 PM (JwyGe)

188 Whats scary is the video is done with at least a modicum of production values. The material merited hand puppets and construction paper.

Posted by: jjshaka at August 19, 2013 06:19 PM (9F/9P)

189 the trailer is off message. It should end "...we fight for our lives,.... and the middle class."

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at August 19, 2013 06:19 PM (zZJJp)

190 Speaking of Dean Ing, how could I forget his post apocalyptic book called Systemic Shock.

The back blurb reads - World War IV The Lucky Ones Died Early...
Ted Quantrill is a survivor. If that means bearing arms for the religious fanatics who make up the new government, he'll do it. If it means hunting down dissidents and 'unacceptables', he'll do it. The time may come when he has the luxury of pondering what all this survival at any cost has done to him inside - but only if he's alive to take advantage of it...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 06:20 PM (kENvx)

191 Ace, think of your eyes before you buy this.

Posted by: dantesed at August 19, 2013 06:20 PM (9nLXu)

192 "BTW, how the hell is Manhattan going to fight everybody else when everybody else has all the guns?"

I absolutely LOVED the guy in Staten Island after Hurricane Sandy who said he was going to use his longbow to deal with gangs of looters.

Seriously, one word: "crossbow," asshole.

Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 06:20 PM (YCDYX)

193 Don't buy it for god's sake! The library will probably have 15,000,000 copies, like they do Obama's books and both the Clinton's turgid autobiographies.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at August 19, 2013 06:21 PM (Opyrm)

194

The trailer's shots of the doofus typing away are hysterical. One second head in hands, the next madly hitting keys at random.

"I don't understand what they want from me. Oh you want me to worken sie typewriter? Yawohl, mein Furher!"

Posted by: Dr Alice at August 19, 2013 06:21 PM (OJKg3)

195 185 i'm gonna have to break down and buy this POS Posted by: ace at August 19, 2013 10:17 PM (/IWYB) Somehow I think all that can be said has been said.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2013 06:21 PM (T0NGe)

196 @2:11 The Magic Negro appears.

Most liberals/leftists are racist. BTW, in all my message boards, I say this every day. Say what you want, Alinsky had some ideas. It's quite satisfying.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 19, 2013 06:22 PM (X/+QT)

197 I have an idea! Let's make our last stand on an island that has no sustainable horticulture and can only be supplied through tunnels and bridges!

Posted by: RWC at August 19, 2013 06:22 PM (uRqqf)

198 " i'm gonna have to break down and buy this POS"

So, what are the odds? Is Ace gonna bring it?

Posted by: mrp at August 19, 2013 06:22 PM (HjPtV)

199 If you're dealing with a gang of looters, you'd rather have a longbow for the faster reload time. Crossbows are wonderful and simple to use, but the refire rate is pitiful at best.

Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 06:23 PM (M+myo)

200 Ace, gaze upon Cthulhu instead. Its the only sane option.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 06:23 PM (kENvx)

201 "the 1.7 million residents of Manhattan will fight you. We will fight you in every neighborhood, on every street." Really? A bunch of neurotic, self absorbed yuppie assholes who can't drive cars. It's just like the Wehrmacht.

Posted by: UGAdawg at August 19, 2013 06:24 PM (WYOrt)

202 If you're dealing with a gang of looters, you'd rather have a longbow for the faster reload time. Crossbows are wonderful and simple to use, but the refire rate is pitiful at best.

Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 10:23 PM (M+myo)

Even at short range?

Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 06:24 PM (YCDYX)

203 Library... Now that's an idea.

Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 06:24 PM (M+myo)

204 The Left is bent about the Carolina guys selling guns in New York, the same progtards who favor legalizing drugs to reduce crime. / headdesk Prohibition policy. Economics. Demand. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Beagle at August 19, 2013 06:25 PM (sOtz/)

205 202 Ace, gaze upon Cthulhu instead. Its the only sane option.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 10:23 PM (kENvx)

Ahhhhh, root beer right up nose. Thanks for the laugh. XD

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 19, 2013 06:25 PM (1sp0T)

206 The crossbow's refire rate is pitiful at every range. If you're at short range, it's time to break out the sword.

Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 06:26 PM (M+myo)

207 "the 1.7 million residents of Manhattan will fight you. We will fight you in every neighborhood, on every street."

Posted by: Stuff Seinfeld Never Said at August 19, 2013 06:26 PM (HjPtV)

208 For no good reason, Psalm 144 comes to mind, or at least a part of it: "Send thine hand from above; rid me, and deliver me out of great waters, from the hand of strange children; Whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood." We'll see more and more of this kind of demonization in the coming months and years until the public is fairly saturated with it. Any governmental action taken against those who believe as we do will be considered preemptive. You think I'm paranoid? Okay. Watch.

Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2013 06:26 PM (ptcFO)

209 IÃ¤ IÃ¤ Cthulhu Fhtangh! Hmm. That worked. What was I so hacked off about? I probably shouldn't come back until the ONT.

Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 06:27 PM (M+myo)

210 204 If you're dealing with a gang of looters, you'd rather have a longbow for the faster reload time. Crossbows are wonderful and simple to use, but the refire rate is pitiful at best.

Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 10:23 PM (M+myo)

Even at short range?

Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 10:24 PM (YCDYX

Actually, after doing some digging, I think you're correct. A skilled longbowman can apparently fire 20 shots a minutes.

Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 06:28 PM (YCDYX)

211 203 "the 1.7 million residents of Manhattan will fight you. We will fight you in every neighborhood, on every street." Really? A bunch of neurotic, self absorbed yuppie assholes who can't drive cars. It's just like the Wehrmacht. Posted by: UGAdawg at August 19, 2013 10:24 PM (WYOrt) Oh my... that was awesome. That was a really belly-laugh I had right there.

Posted by: BornLib at August 19, 2013 06:29 PM (zpNwC)

212 "the 1.7 million residents of Manhattan will fight you. We will fight you in every neighborhood, on every street." Fine. We'll be out here with the food.

Posted by: zsasz at August 19, 2013 06:29 PM (MMC8r)

213

ALERT

in his day job he is a wall street lawyer specializing in deals involving mining and pipelines

behold

Mr. Rich heads the FirmÂ’s Global Project Development and Finance Group and, until 2006, was co-head of the FirmÂ’s Corporate Practice, comprising over 500 corporate, financial and transactional lawyers worldwide.

Posted by: thunderb at August 19, 2013 06:30 PM (zOTsN)

214 208 The crossbow's refire rate is pitiful at every range. If you're at short range, it's time to break out the sword.

Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 10:26 PM (M+myo)

Yeah, I wasn't thinking about refire. I was thinking about how successful you're going to be at shooting an arrow if you're walking around the house vs. just pulling the trigger on a crossbow. So, instead...katana?

Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 06:30 PM (YCDYX)

215 @210. They're not going to stop at Christians. They're going to remove all religions they think aren't on board with their plan. Then the Caliphate will blindside them because they've refused to see it while they've been busy handing them the keys to the kingdom.

Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 06:30 PM (M+myo)

216 Geez, the Denver public library purchased 4 copies of this POS.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 06:30 PM (el1mU)

217 The bow is a skill and strength weapon while the crossbow can be fired powerfully by anyone. @210 Perfect.

Posted by: Ned Stark at August 19, 2013 06:30 PM (sOtz/)

218 Actually, after doing some digging, I think you're correct. A skilled longbowman can apparently fire 20 shots a minutes. Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 10:28 PM (YCDYX) Unless he's in the SCA, and this is his thing, the thing he specializes in, he's not going to be anywhere close to a skilled longbowman. Those things are hard to use.

Posted by: BornLib at August 19, 2013 06:32 PM (zpNwC)

219 It's like someone has gotten hold of our secret plans and given them to our enemies. This is serious, you guys.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 19, 2013 06:33 PM (qRasw)

220 Now, everybody's fat would sizzle in that fire. pg 8 Systemic Shock.

Kinlay Ardel, geez sorry about that... but that Cthulhu guy has some weird mojo.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 06:33 PM (kENvx)

221 No, it's not the Left's "Turner Diaries".

It's their hilariously pitiful attempt at their very own "Atlas Shrugged".

The tedious writing style and the laughable attempts at highbrow dialogue trying to make some Very Important Point are obvious attempts to try and copy the format of "Atlas Shrugged".

They settled on the whole Palin/Christian/theocracy angle since the real AS rips leftist economic policies a new asshole and economics is definitely not a conversation they want right now.

Posted by: B at August 19, 2013 06:33 PM (6iEQd)

222 i'm gonna have to break down and buy this POS
Posted by: ace at August 19, 2013 10:17 PM (/IWYB)

Live blog it!

Posted by: mugiwara at August 19, 2013 06:34 PM (hpYnL)

223 If McCain/Palin had won and McCain had then died, what do you think would have happened to the country under a Palin presidency?

I hope the mush head who gets to answer this, has the presence of mind to, look at Sarah Palin's actual record and remind the teacher - "Nothing like this tripe. Now, Obama, on other hand proved himself to be a totalitarian Statist..."

Yeah, I am asking too much.

Posted by: Rodney C. Johnson at August 19, 2013 06:34 PM (nL5y5)

224 We'll see more and more of this kind of demonization in the coming months and years until the public is fairly saturated with it. Any governmental action taken against those who believe as we do will be considered preemptive. The entire unvoiced moral of this kind of drivel is: "This is what they will do to us, unless we do it to them first."

Posted by: zsasz at August 19, 2013 06:34 PM (MMC8r)

225 They done found us out Cletus !

Posted by: awkward davies at August 19, 2013 06:35 PM (WK8VM)

226 It might be a funny book. Unintentionally funny is sometimes the best funny.

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 19, 2013 06:35 PM (Iyg03)

227 There would have been more survivors in the story had they not been lounging around in Zuccotti Park. No cover there

Posted by: RizzyG at August 19, 2013 06:36 PM (FzyEN)

228 #18 No, this Administration is the Libtards' version of The Turner Diaries.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at August 19, 2013 06:36 PM (04VXC)

229 I'll wait for the Shattner-read audiobook.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 19, 2013 06:37 PM (X/+QT)

230 The entire unvoiced moral of this kind of drivel is: "This is what they will do to us, unless we do it to them first." Posted by: zsasz at August 19, 2013 10:34 PM (MMC8r) That's a great insight.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2013 06:37 PM (T0NGe)

231 "We live in a bubble here in New York!" Oh, Frederic. So true.

Posted by: il padrino at August 19, 2013 06:38 PM (kveyS)

232 I'd prefer a medium-draw composite bow and a gladius. Both are excellent tools for the jobs they were designed for. While the English Longbow has incredible power, it's more unweildy and the high draw weights require a lot of upper body strength. The composite bow can be used equally well on foot or horseback, and the Mongols conquered Asia with it. Good enough. As far as the gladius, and I'll take a simple equally choppy or thrusty broad blade over fragile, graceful thing that only works well if you've had a fair bit of training in it. When it comes to medieval weapons, it's not as much about having the absolute best as what works vest fir your needs and physical ability.

Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 06:39 PM (M+myo)

233 It seems more of a leftist "Mein Kampf" (My Struggle). As they are writing the script in the NSA prison. Good Christ, how many Protestant churches are accepting of the gay and the Pope is somewhat nonchalant of the gay.

Posted by: Parliament of Whores at August 19, 2013 06:40 PM (wlPCo)

234

THIS IS THE SAME GUY!!

he is a Wall Street lawyer who helps corporations finance the deals for mining metals in the third world and pipelines for energy!!! The cognitive dissonance must be crushing!

Posted by: thunderb at August 19, 2013 06:41 PM (zOTsN)

235 218 Geez, the Denver public library purchased 4 copies of this POS. Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 10:30 PM (el1mU) Columbus Metro Library system has 17 copies. For a new book, that's actually not very many for us. Ringo's new novel "Under a Graveyard Sky" has 22 copies in.

Posted by: BornLib at August 19, 2013 06:42 PM (zpNwC)

236

his law firm bio

His experience includes some of the landmark metals and mining, oil and gas and infrastructure transactions during the past decades. His international practice has focused on projects in emerging markets, and has included projects in countries as diverse as Argentina, Australia, Azerbaijan, Chile, China, Indonesia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Russia, Tanzania, Turkey, Venezuela and Zimbabwe. His infrastructure experience includes canals, ports, pipelines and roads, and he has acted for private equity firms and funds making major infrastructure investments.

Posted by: thunderb at August 19, 2013 06:42 PM (zOTsN)

237

The Firm is noted by a number of sources as the leading law firm in oil, gas and mining projects, the market leader for projects in Latin America, a leader in Public-Private Partnership structures for infrastructure and among the top firms acting for sponsors of projects in the countries of the former Soviet Union

bwhahahhahahah

Posted by: thunderb at August 19, 2013 06:43 PM (zOTsN)

238 he is a Wall Street lawyer who helps corporations finance the deals for mining metals in the third world and pipelines for energy!!! The cognitive dissonance must be crushing! Nope. You see, supporting overseas mining and energy -- like PetroBras and Saudi oil -- is not morally reprehensible, not like that evil Keystone XL pipeline, which might be built through a potential Whole Foods location.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2013 06:43 PM (T0NGe)

239 Greg covered behind one of the lions that guarded the New York Public Library as another bullet from the hidden sniper spanged off the stone mane sending little chips chattering god knows where save those which bit into Greg's untanned flesh. He bit his tongue to keep from screaming. Down the steps was a scene that made Greg's stomach lurch and try to upheave, his teech clenched down on his tongue prevented that from happening. Sprawled lifelessly with limbs akimber and bright red blood flowing down the steps, Frederick's head looked like a burst bubble, nothing left above the ears.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 06:44 PM (kENvx)

240 he is a Wall Street lawyer who helps corporations finance the deals for mining metals in the third world and pipelines for energy!!! The cognitive dissonance must be crushing! By the way, you had me at "lawyer".

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2013 06:44 PM (T0NGe)

241

he made his bones raping Gaia!!!

bwhahahahha

Posted by: thunderb at August 19, 2013 06:45 PM (zOTsN)

242 Ha ha! The video is rich, especially this part: "I suppose what happened was, they said what they would do, and we didn't listen, and they did what the said they would do."

Now which fundamentalist religious group does that actually apply to in the 21st century? If you answered "Christians" you lose.

Posted by: holygoat at August 19, 2013 06:45 PM (HYFht)

243 he is a Wall Street lawyer who helps corporations finance the deals for mining metals in the third world and pipelines for energy!!! The cognitive dissonance must be crushing! Not neccessarily-- he could well be a big fan of good ol' government money and power filling his pockets. He's a christo-phobic, though, certainly.

Posted by: zsasz at August 19, 2013 06:46 PM (MMC8r)

244 "We will fight you."

Really?

You'll have to get past my gun shaped breakfast pastry first, asshole.

Posted by: B at August 19, 2013 06:47 PM (6iEQd)

245 Christ, this guy works for Sullivan & Cromwell. This is one of the most elite large law firms in the country. And this is how he views half of it.

Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 06:47 PM (YCDYX)

246 ah, forget the disappearing ampersand

Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 06:47 PM (YCDYX)

247

He has advised prospective sponsors in connection with a project to develop and operate a natural gas pipeline and related facilities to transport gas from the North Slope of Alaska to markets in Canada and the continental United States

keystone??? bahahahahahah

Posted by: thunderb at August 19, 2013 06:49 PM (zOTsN)

248 Anna Puma - So Greg sacrificed Frederick in order to save all the books from the Great Censorship Leap Forward of 2015? There is no greater goal than preserving at least one copy of each Richard Dawkins book for when they beat back the theocracy and restore order and intellect..

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 06:50 PM (el1mU)

249 Lizzy, for the Greater Glory of the Core Curricula no less

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 19, 2013 06:51 PM (kENvx)

250 They really, honestly believe this shit. No kidding. I'm part of a writing workshop, and one of the other members submitted a story with much the same premise: a civil war between the virtuous bicoastal liberals and the eeevil Christians lurking in the interior -- complete with, you guessed it, concentration camps for gays, mandatory Jesus, and ethnic cleansing. They really believe this shit. Because the media repeats it endlessly. Until the liberal media are destroyed -- I mean physically destroyed, with smoke coming from the rubble of the New York Times building and Rockefeller Center -- they're going to keep spreading this poison. They want a civil war? Bring it.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 19, 2013 06:51 PM (RPfwc)

251 Good gawd, he went to my law school.

Posted by: Boone at August 19, 2013 06:52 PM (3p8HS)

252 You would think a guy who was an expert in legal matters related to energy would notice another flaw in Manhattan getting into a civil war with one side that possessed, say, Texas and Alaska.

Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 06:52 PM (YCDYX)

253 the 1.7 million residents of Manhattan will fight you. We will fight you in every neighborhood, on every street This is, by far, the funniest concept ever. I'm sure the US Marines are cowering in fear of the Hipster Fixed-Gear Bike Brigade. Just turn off the water, power, and Internet to the island. Put up a giant sculpture of a face-eating spider with the word "SOON." by it. Wait for hilarity to ensue.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2013 06:53 PM (OevbG)

254 244 Ha ha! The video is rich, especially this part: "I suppose what happened was, they said what they would do, and we didn't listen, and they did what the said they would do." Now which fundamentalist religious group does that actually apply to in the 21st century? If you answered "Christians" you lose. Posted by: holygoat at August 19, 2013 10:45 PM (HYFht) From what I remember the Dems telling me in 2012: Mormons. Not the good Reid Mormons but the evil Romney ones. Also Orson Scott Card, which is why I have to boycott the Ender's Game movie. Because theocracy and homophobia.

Posted by: BornLib at August 19, 2013 06:53 PM (zpNwC)

255 'd prefer a medium-draw composite bow and a gladius. Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 10:39 PM (M+myo) I recommend Fairbairn's smatchet for the kind of close work you're describing. They're still being sold.

Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2013 06:53 PM (ptcFO)

256

this book is his penance for being the filthy rapist of Gaia that he is

he is a self hating capitalist

Posted by: thunderb at August 19, 2013 06:53 PM (zOTsN)

257 253 Good gawd, he went to my law school.

Posted by: Boone at August 19, 2013 10:52 PM (3p8HS)

Yeah, if I'd had to guess which law school he went to, I wouldn't have guessed that one. We're f'ked.

Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 06:53 PM (YCDYX)

258 Re: They really believe this shit.
Seems pretty clear that both sides believe something is coming. One side is buying up guns and ammo, homeschooling, etc. while the other is doing its darndest to outlaw guns, indoctrinate our children more effectively and earlier, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2013 06:54 PM (el1mU)

259 @254. Exactly. Where are they getting their oil? Hmm. Maybe that's why they're buddy-buddy with the Caliphate.

Posted by: Cato at August 19, 2013 06:54 PM (M+myo)

260 Also, in 2029, they're going to use a fucking Selectric II in a cabin in the woods to record the vital history of mankind? Don't get me wrong, best keyboard ever made by anyone anywhere, but that's an anachronism that makes no sense. A full manual typewriter, I'd get. But if you have power, why not use a word processor?

Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2013 06:55 PM (OevbG)

261

he claims he was a Republican until very recently. From his interview

Not at all, and in fact during the time I was writing the book, I was still registered as a Republican, as I was for most of my life. But the most recent Republican Presidential primary seasonÂ—with the party fielding people like Bachman, Perry and Santorum as serious candidatesÂ—it was just too much, and I switched to independent.

Do I want people to think about what the Republican Party has become, having been largely hijacked by the Christian right, which is now joining forces with the Tea Party? Absolutely. Too many good moderate Republicans just don't see it. But I certainly don't want to see the Republican Party destroyed. We need two credible mainstream parties in this country for our political system to work. I want to see the Republican Party get back in touch with its libertarian side, which of course believes that government should not be telling us what we can do in our bedrooms, whom we can marry or what we can read.

Posted by: thunderb at August 19, 2013 06:56 PM (zOTsN)

262 Don't get me wrong, best keyboard ever made by anyone anywhere, but that's an anachronism that makes no sense. A full manual typewriter, I'd get. But if you have power, why not use a word processor? (a) They want a typewriter because the journalist at the typewriter is iconic. (b) They canÂ’t use a manual because it takes more skill than an electric and they donÂ’t have it.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2013 06:57 PM (CeNUw)

263 The great Chomsky-Zinn Paperback Weenie Roast of 2016. Muhahahahaha!

Posted by: Sarah Palin at August 19, 2013 06:58 PM (sOtz/)

264 So, let me see if I got this straight.

Millions of Second Amendment supporters: Kidding themselves that they could take on a tyrannical government if the need arose.

Millions of Gun Hating/ Gun Fearing Big City libtards: "Wolverines!"

Riiiiight....

Posted by: B at August 19, 2013 07:01 PM (6iEQd)

265 So, this is not Leftist fear mongering, but RINO! Now it makes even more sense...

Posted by: Rodney C. Johnson at August 19, 2013 07:01 PM (nL5y5)

266 this book is his penance for being the filthy rapist of Gaia that he is he is a self hating capitalist He's not a capitalist. He's a lawyer. He doesn't risk or earn his money. He's the catalyst for rent-seeking.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2013 07:03 PM (T0NGe)

267 "254 You would think a guy who was an expert in legal matters related to energy would notice another flaw in Manhattan getting into a civil war with one side that possessed, say, Texas and Alaska.

Posted by: AD at August 19, 2013 10:52 PM (YCDYX)"

Liberalism is all cargo cult magical thinking at this point, so his glossing over this material fact is of a piece with that.

Posted by: Sudden Clarity Clarence at August 19, 2013 07:03 PM (m21kN)

268 Really? A bunch of neurotic, self absorbed yuppie assholes who can't drive cars. It's just like the Wehrmacht. Posted by: UGAdawg at August 19, 2013 10:24 PM (WYOrt) Really? From which perspective?

Posted by: Field Marshal von Manstein at August 19, 2013 07:07 PM (3sZO1)

269 1.) AmishDude, STFU with the lawyer attacks, for god's sake. I don't go shit on your profession nonstop, do I?

2.) This book is pissing me off immensely for some reason. Why? Why does it bother me? I think for the same reason that Andrew Sullivan pisses me off: "crazy" concentrated so purely, so unfiltered, just rubs me the wrong way.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 19, 2013 07:09 PM (n/+FT)

270 1.) AmishDude, STFU with the lawyer attacks, for god's sake. I don't go shit on your profession nonstop, do I? Feel free, as soon as my profession has a legal monopoly over a full third of government and a defacto monopoly over the remaining two thirds.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 19, 2013 07:11 PM (T0NGe)

271 The Air Force bombs SF . What happened to all those nukes being set off to slide Cali into the sea giving the followers of Reid oceanfront gambling ? Signed Lex Danger Carlos AKA El Luthor the Manifeco .

Posted by: DrDrill at August 19, 2013 07:17 PM (v8ZWo)

272 @273: You'd think the party of Hank Johnson would be more sensitive to that sort of thing.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2013 07:26 PM (OevbG)

273 "...Millions of Second Amendment supporters: Kidding themselves that they could take on a tyrannical government if the need arose..." Posted by: B at August 19, 2013 11:01 PM (6iEQd) There are plenty of historical examples of committed resistance and revolutionary groups successfully outlasting or outright defeating technologically and logistically superior forces. It's do-able.

Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2013 07:27 PM (ptcFO)

274 His interview is as craptastic a piece of fiction as his prose. How big a pile does he think his fency-pents law firm would make in a genuinely. libertsrian America?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at August 19, 2013 07:30 PM (04VXC)

275 I see my county library has a copy of Christian Nation in the stacks. I may have to stop by and grab it. I'm thinking about a dramatic reading.

Posted by: Shawn, but not lowercased shawn at August 19, 2013 08:20 PM (d64qM)

276 "If Sartre had had the internet, he would have observed that Hell is other people correcting your minor typos forever"

HA!!
well played.

Posted by: LexisTexas at August 19, 2013 08:40 PM (kPFAg)

277 Forget cognitive dissonance. Whoever wrote the study guide has entered full-blown psychosis: "In the Christian Nation, authoritarian control is possible largely because web-linked cameras are everywhere and all reading, writing, and other communication are digitalÂ—making privacy or uncensored expression virtually impossible. The technology for this exists now. Does this worry you? Do you think it is a real threat?"

Posted by: sinalco at August 19, 2013 08:55 PM (7580N)

278 Unless noted vaginophobe and ladybits expert Sullivan is talking about child-rearing, I guess I simply cannot be impressed by his current inanity or even moved to hear it. And his inanity can be cosmically inane.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 19, 2013 09:01 PM (eHIJJ)

279 It used to be 9-11 Truthers, but I now have a new standard for "deranged beyond a shred of credibility," being anyone who discusses Christian Nation with anything other than derision and scorn. A former liberal, what turned me was the realization that while fellow liberals were obsessed with censoring conservative dissenting voices, upon exploration of those voices, I never once heard similar discussions of censorship from the right. You're damn right this idiotic book is Projection Exhibit #1. Everything laid at the feet of Christians here is exactly what "Progressives" intend to do if given the opportunity.

Posted by: Bitsko at August 19, 2013 09:11 PM (pjKSk)

280 How can Ace even parody this? A Trillion dollar stimulus wasted on Green crony boondoggles? Walking machine guns to the Mexican Mafia? Sending the IRS to sic the Tea Pary? Using the NSA to snoop on all Americans? That's just crazy shit. It defies belief. Next you will be telling me that we will shun our 30 year ally in Egypt, and decide to throw in with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: Stirner at August 19, 2013 09:24 PM (Ytuz8)

281 Actually I preferred 'Why mommy is a Demoncrat' or something.

Arrrrrrgggghhhh, they found me!!!

Posted by: Andy at August 19, 2013 11:01 PM (8tBkt)

282 1.7 million held up in Manhatten? Ready to stand and fight? Holy crap is that funny. I guess logistics never entered their lexicon. The first time Josh and Summer don't get their carmel Machiados they're going to throw a human rights tizzy. When they figure out no one cares. That's it, wars over.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 19, 2013 11:10 PM (XIxXP)

283 Damn, I am truly sorry I missed this thread because I went to bed early. And also because since I went to bed early, I woke up early, and here I am wide awake at 5:45 am. This does not bode well for my workday.

Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2013 01:43 AM (sdi6R)

284 "The Marching Morons...."

Posted by: backhoe at August 20, 2013 01:44 AM (ULH4o)

285 Transcribed from the first Frederich Rich video: Fundamentalism usually requires a couple of things to really take hold in a society. It requires a deep sense of anxiety, and fear, and it also requires some degree of economic distress. Um, hello? Does that not perfectly describe our current lunge into totalitarian socialism? This is projection to the twelfth power. This book IS The Protocols of the Elders of Zion for the Obamunist era. If this book gains any real traction, look out.

Posted by: rickl at August 20, 2013 02:24 AM (sdi6R)

286

You know what pisses me off?

Christians are being persecuted as we speak in Egypt and Nigeria, and THIS garbage is being peddled as a viable scenario for a novel.

Posted by: section9 at August 20, 2013 03:55 AM (CUoon)

287 I am stopping at the gun store this morning and buying another AK n as much ammo as possible. This clown show will be at your house or church within a couple of years

Posted by: Dick Nixons Rib at August 20, 2013 04:24 AM (VrVBw)

288 Just reading Ace's posting on this stupid book is reducing my will to live, also my higher brain functions.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at August 20, 2013 05:36 AM (1hM1d)

289 There is a certain sort of "atheist" who is deeply, sorely, frothingly angry that the power of their own mental superiority doesn't cause churches to simply melt into puddles and run down the drain. Thousands upon thousands of people can drive past a church with a sign out front that says something like "Have a blessed day! Join us on Sunday for worship service at 10:30," and they're the ones who get outraged at the sight of it, gripping the steering wheel as they drive by, teeth-gnashingly angry at having been "assaulted."

Posted by: Conservatronic at August 20, 2013 05:38 AM (ZgUuK)

290 If this "novel" is successful, I'm going to write an even better one, this time with action and actual dialogue and a plot. The dollars of paranoid-delusional lefty atheist crackpot wackos spend just as well as anyone else's dollars, and I gots to get paid.

Posted by: Conservatronic at August 20, 2013 05:40 AM (ZgUuK)

291 @ 284 "I guess logistics never entered their lexicon." That's the thing, right there. For an alternate history -- or ANY kind of speculative fiction to work, for that matter -- it has to be at least plausible. I may not care for Turtledove's work, but you do have more than enough Shown Their Work for willing suspension of disbelief to be triggered. But this... You can tell the author has lived his entire life insulted from real-life forces, or even history for that matter. Look up the Shimabara Rebellion and let me know how that one ended, Einstein. I suppose he thinks a handful of hipster "urban gardeners" are going to magically be able to feed 1.7 million, the overwhelming majority of whom think their meals come from Whole Foods. Even if you could find enough leftists with any kind of agricultural skill (and even less likely, anyone willing to do the backbreaking, thankless work) you still have the problem of LACK OF ARABLE LAND. There aren't enough unused lots in the city to convert to tiny community gardens that only feed a handful of people. Then again, I suppose it's just one more Appeal to Magic among the rest of the ones making up this "novel".

Posted by: Saber Alter at August 20, 2013 06:35 AM (ohtdI)

292 #119 Henry the VIII. England was the only country in which the 'Reformation' was from the top down.

Posted by: Sal at August 20, 2013 07:13 AM (65+tl)

293 275 "...Millions of Second Amendment supporters: Kidding themselves that they could take on a tyrannical government if the need arose..."

Posted by: B at August 19, 2013 11:01 PM (6iEQd)

There are plenty of historical examples of committed resistance and revolutionary groups successfully outlasting or outright defeating technologically and logistically superior forces. It's do-able.

Posted by: troyriser at August 19, 2013 11:27 PM (ptcFO)

***
That...was not my point.
Gun owners, yes.
Urban hipster douchebag hoplophobes, no.

Posted by: B at August 20, 2013 07:28 AM (VC56G)

294 The comments here made my day. Seriously, "Ted Turner Diaries" and other such comedy gold is remarkably more entertaining than this horrible attempt at literature. I've seen fanfiction done by tweens that was more readable and certainly more exciting.

I wonder what he thinks of black churches? The ones that keep shooting down gay marriage?

Also, I'd imagine the author claiming to be Republican is more concern trolling than being a RINO.

Posted by: OmegaPaladin at August 20, 2013 07:36 AM (i8UoQ)

295 At least we now know what it takes to make Ayn Rand look like Hemingway.

Time to start an E.L. James-ish fanfic spinoff thread..."Fifty Shades of Pinko" might be a good start.

Or not.

Posted by: Chilly at August 20, 2013 07:39 AM (nu3Q6)

296 Holy crap...My brainball is hurtin' from the level of stupidity needed to write such junk. Seriously, I don't have enough scotch in my house to recover from this.

Posted by: LammyPI at August 20, 2013 08:29 AM (pm/oS)

297 Actually, a dramatic reading at the next Moron Meetup is a *fantastic* idea. Bring helium-filled balloons...it wouldn't be right without reading in high-pitched voices.

Posted by: Saber Alter at August 20, 2013 09:32 AM (ohtdI)

298

Â“They said what they would do, and we did not listen. Then they did what they said they would do.Â”

So they said they would bomb Homosexuals in San Francisco and people then voted them in?

I noted others wondering how the people of Manhattan would resist especially since Lord Bloomberg seized their guns.

Posted by: Africanus at August 20, 2013 03:18 PM (TM0Je)

299 Fox News merges with the Faith & Freedom Coalition, the political arm of conservative Christians, to form Fox Faith & Freedom News. This probably means TV no longer has an Andy Levy!