January 29, 2013
— andy A reminder of the mindset we're dealing with on guns appears below the fold.
We laughed at that. He's serious ... and representative of a sizable swath of the left.
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Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:24 AM (8y9MW)
Is he seriously claiming the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a "privilege?"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:25 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at January 29, 2013 04:26 AM (8cJXl)
That kind of money and, Rielle Hunter. Really....
Posted by: Department of Accuracy at January 29, 2013 04:26 AM (+I8Mq)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 29, 2013 04:28 AM (DuH+r)
Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 04:29 AM (UhXzR)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 29, 2013 08:28 AM (DuH+r)
I will condense: Bill of Rights is really a Bill of Privileges.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 29, 2013 04:31 AM (m0v2L)
Posted by: teej at January 29, 2013 04:31 AM (RlvM2)
Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 29, 2013 04:31 AM (2IgCi)
Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 04:31 AM (UhXzR)
Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 29, 2013 04:33 AM (2IgCi)
Posted by: American Dawg at January 29, 2013 04:33 AM (trA4n)
Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 29, 2013 04:33 AM (2IgCi)
>>>One of the last things I want to do is listen to that gasbag. Anyone have a transcript?
EDWARDS: "Let's hear what poor Emily would say - if she could talk, before the forceps got her poor defensless head and caused her immeasurable damage, affecting her life for all time.... Emily? 'I'm frightened' she's saying, 'I can feel the cold cold unfeeling jaws of the metal clamps a-comin' in...'
Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 04:33 AM (3ZtZW)
The problem is, too many people in America believe the government *grants* rights.
For example: you have the "right" to drive. The "right" to social security, etc.
People have no concept of Natural Rights thanks to the stellar education system we're running in America today.
Posted by: Jay at January 29, 2013 04:34 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: flsprtsgod at January 29, 2013 04:34 AM (6MVtf)
Posted by: Truman North, now at 25% battery life at January 29, 2013 04:34 AM (2IgCi)
Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 04:35 AM (UhXzR)
Three policemen in South Dakota attempted, under verbal orders, to arrest another policeman for an alleged violation of law when no charge had been formally made against him and no warrant had issued for his arrest. Those attempting to make the arrest carried arms, and when he refused to go, they tried to oblige him to do so by force. He fired and killed one of them. He was arrested, tried for murder, and convicted.
However, the Supreme Court ruled that Bad Elk had the right to use any force, including lethal force, to prevent his false arrest, even if the policeman was only trying to arrest him and not kill him. Basically, the Supremes of the day ruled that as a citizen, you have the right to defend against your civil rights being violated using ANY force necessary to prevent the violation, even if the offending party isn't trying to kill you.Of course, modern law enforcement organizations would most likely kill you if you try this, so don't try this at home.
Posted by: Pancho Via at January 29, 2013 04:35 AM (e8kgV)
Your arm's too short to box with God.
Posted by: tcn at January 29, 2013 04:36 AM (VLG62)
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 04:36 AM (53z96)
Posted by: J. at January 29, 2013 04:36 AM (D5Jpp)
Do you think the Iranian citizens would be free today if they had the equivalent to a 2nd amendment? ...
Posted by: ET at January 29, 2013 04:37 AM (YpjaN)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 29, 2013 04:37 AM (nZvGM)
Posted by: deadrody at January 29, 2013 04:38 AM (kLSvx)
If we were living in a nation of justice he would be in jail, not mouthing off about crap.
To quote that great philospher Bill Engvall, "Here's your sign."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 29, 2013 04:38 AM (+z4pE)
This type of shit cannot go unchallenged!
Now amendments are privlidges that can be revoked on a whim by the masterminds as if they are a parent taking away a childs toy.
FUCK THESE PEOPLE!!
Posted by: General Woundwort at January 29, 2013 04:39 AM (RrD4h)
Do you think the Iranian citizens would be free today
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They would immediately start talking about how health care is accessible to every Iranaian citizen...
Posted by: Jay at January 29, 2013 04:41 AM (3LaGb)
Posted by: American Dawg at January 29, 2013 04:41 AM (trA4n)
Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 04:41 AM (3ZtZW)
For example: you have the "right" to drive. The "right" to social security, etc.
People have no concept of Natural Rights thanks to the stellar education system we're running in America today.
Yeah. And it's on purpose. If the government can "grant" a right (instead of a privilege), then they can take away any right.
In essence, the Leftists have very purposefully conflated the words "right" and "privilege" in the language.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:41 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at January 29, 2013 04:43 AM (IanLz)
He is protected by Democratium, but he is white so he at least had to go to trial.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 04:43 AM (53z96)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 04:44 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 29, 2013 04:44 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Mr. Fantastic at January 29, 2013 04:44 AM (2IgCi)
Posted by: J. at January 29, 2013 04:45 AM (D5Jpp)
He intoned two Americas and I mocked that, BUT now I agree.
Pity the left enjoys two Americas.
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Posted by: LaceWigBooks at January 29, 2013 04:47 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: ALH at January 29, 2013 04:48 AM (n2rle)
I see Lace Wigs is doing well in business and now has a book division....
I'm touched.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:48 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 04:48 AM (53z96)
They aren't "simply" doing it. They've been working toward this for 90 years or more.
That said, it is to their own peril that they buy into their own propaganda. The Bill of Rights does not grant a right- it secures them. Those rights exist anyway, and regardless of what anyone thinks on the matter. The only question is how the Government attempts to secure, circumvent, or infringe on those rights.
You can tell me I can't have a gun all you want.
Molon labe.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:48 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 04:49 AM (GVxQo)
I refuse to watch that piece of slime. My mohter saw through him and Kerry in 2004, and she was getting Alzheimer's. What is wrong with this country when a woman in her late 70s and in the beginnings of that frigging disease has better judgement than the idiots that voted for Kerry/Edwards in 2004?
At least my mother had her common sense!
Edwards was right, there are now two Americas. We have consrvatives in one and low info and lib in the other. I ignoerd Edwards in his presidential campaigns.
O/T but I am using an older windows computer now. There is something to be said for Macs with the spell check. I just wish more websites were compatible with Safari.
Posted by: CarolT at January 29, 2013 04:49 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: GardenGnome at January 29, 2013 04:50 AM (Io7hX)
Posted by: teej at January 29, 2013 04:50 AM (hDena)
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 04:50 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 04:50 AM (eKiiX)
Great.
So Pixy "cleans up the spam," and breaks the blog. Now he (she? it?) "fixes" the blog, but spammers can suddenly get back in.
Awesome.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:50 AM (8y9MW)
Someone yesterday referred to the South African constitution, where what Edwards answered would be correct. That must be the same constitution that Ruth Ginsberg thinks is so much better than ours.
We occupy the same land, but we live in different worlds.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2013 04:51 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 04:51 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ drinking heavily at January 29, 2013 04:51 AM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 04:51 AM (UhXzR)
Posted by: MadisonConservative at January 29, 2013 04:52 AM (sb+ta)
Awesome.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 08:50 AM (8y9MW)
I would not count on that being the real lacewigs spam.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 04:52 AM (53z96)
We have right on our side--you simply do not nullify a provision of the Bill of Rights, you simply do not change the makeup of a population for your petty political gain.
If your goal is power, then yes, you do whatever is necessary to gain it, even if it means directly violating the law.
This is what we're dealing with: naked aggression by the Left. They will stop at nothing to achieve their goals, the citizenry and laws be damned. Their ends justifies their means. They are in control now, having so distorted the truth and the language for generations, that we have little hope of setting things right peaceably. These people are the political equivalent of the Terminator: they don't feel pity or remorse, they cannot be reasoned with, they do not respect reality and the absolutely will not stop until we are dead.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 29, 2013 04:52 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at January 29, 2013 04:53 AM (jCQ+I)
Apparently the moon wasn't in the correct phase.
Sorry for the looong comment.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 04:53 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 04:53 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 04:53 AM (Sptt8)
We occupy the same land, but we live in different worlds.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2013 08:51 AM (ccXZP)
Rand Paul commented on that with regard to Pelosi and OBama.
I called it their desire for a "Commietution" in the last thread.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 04:54 AM (53z96)
Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 04:54 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Bob Menedez at January 29, 2013 04:54 AM (m0v2L)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 29, 2013 04:55 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 08:51 AM (GsoHv)
Oh, so it was you.
You know where the barrel is.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 04:56 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 04:56 AM (eKiiX)
Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 04:57 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 29, 2013 04:58 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at January 29, 2013 04:58 AM (KQ53P)
Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 04:58 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 04:58 AM (Sptt8)
oh it is a right comrade....of course you shutting it off or not having it beam OFA shit into your head...."not an option" comrade.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 04:59 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 29, 2013 04:59 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 05:00 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 05:00 AM (fWAjv)
1) Slice like an f'ing hammer
2) Refer to Rubio's garbage
3) ???
SCOAMF / SCOAMT
TFG
MATT! DAMON!
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 05:01 AM (8y9MW)
and that is why I hate them, and it is why I fight.
The great depression lasted so long because of Keynesian impulses and concentrated decision making taking on too much power.
We're hitting the gas back towards that stupidity and nobody is making the case for distributed situational analysis and dynamic disequilibrium theory applied to "microeconomics."
Instead we have regulatory agencies making economic edicts.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:01 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 05:01 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: somejoe at January 29, 2013 05:01 AM (SSWdi)
Posted by: Darian at January 29, 2013 05:02 AM (KC3A2)
now YOU get the three card monte game being played....
abortion "right"
free speech "privilege"
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:02 AM (LRFds)
nice I'll peruse it in detail later....
I just don't see a way for the left and right to coexist and the left keeps importing reinforcements.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:04 AM (LRFds)
The media nutted Silky Pony pretty hard for their new "exotic" boyfriend...
funny shit since Obama is if anything more fake than the fake.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:05 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 05:05 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 05:07 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 05:07 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 05:08 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: UCanCallMeBob at January 29, 2013 05:08 AM (V4q/3)
Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 05:09 AM (fWAjv)
Guess who has final say on "border security?"
That's right Juan "SMART!" Queeg says uncle Jan Neopolitino at DHS has say....
fucking John "shit the GOP cannot flush" McCain....
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:09 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 05:11 AM (FsUAO)
Yeah but Jlist was the final octane boost to it...
I really wonder at times about the internal dynamics and coordination that has to be going on between editors.....
you'd think they'd accidentally fuck up the choir from time to time even if a near unimind more often than they do.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:11 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 05:12 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 05:12 AM (GQ8sn)
Step 4: Actually work programming vs. jumping to the newest tech for 30 of the last 25 years.
Step 5: Take a few off.
Step 6: Watch your resume disappear like spam in the wind.
Step 7: FIIK
Posted by: DaveA at January 29, 2013 05:12 AM (tAie3)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 05:13 AM (9Bj8R)
See BS has Senator Juan Queeg-Asshole AZ on to admit "yup Obama controls the triggers"....
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:14 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 05:14 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 05:14 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 05:15 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 05:15 AM (l86i3)
Fordo? What's the biggest site called, Blibo?
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 29, 2013 05:15 AM (xGlYu)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 05:16 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 05:16 AM (9Bj8R)
yeah about the only thing that gums up the choir is when the parent corp has a direct interest in story suppression....
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:17 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 05:17 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 05:18 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 05:18 AM (bR2AR)
This is why we cannot have a conversation about gun control.
We are speaking different languages.
It's deeper than that. What we're dealing with is form of mental illness. What else explains the lock-step thinking? The unity of purpose to deny the truth, to distort the language, to twist the law, to ignore principle and to enslave others? These are all symptoms of the disease of wanting control over others. It is nurtured by the ego and must find a way of expressing itself. It is the Core Human Fault, from which all other faults flow.
The Founders understood this disease far better than this mewling quim, and wrote the Constitution the way they did to try to stop precisely the type of government, and the people who currently infest it, that we see today in Washington. The enemies of freedom knew that they couldn't overthrow our government from the outside, so they did it from within, over the course of generations, in full view.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 29, 2013 05:18 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 05:19 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 05:19 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: The Godfather at January 29, 2013 05:20 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 05:20 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 05:21 AM (FsUAO)
Posted by: akula51 at January 29, 2013 05:21 AM (YesJa)
Posted by: Blacksheep at January 29, 2013 05:22 AM (bS6uW)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 05:22 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 05:22 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 05:22 AM (FsUAO)
look "global standards" and all that hooha that was for Bush!
URGENCY!
That is why he never goes to Congress urgency...
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:24 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 05:24 AM (bR2AR)
Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at January 29, 2013 05:24 AM (Expaw)
If I had a blog.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 05:26 AM (8y9MW)
>>>Someone want to precis what Juan Eduardo said? I have no sound at work.
He was asked if having a gun were a right or a privilege and said "If I had a gun pointed to my head? Thats a privilege" Hilarity ensued.
Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 05:26 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 05:26 AM (bR2AR)
Thanks!
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 05:26 AM (GQ8sn)
Ummm...what?
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 05:27 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Clemenza at January 29, 2013 05:28 AM (x59Gv)
Good Lord.
And we're more boned now than when that was filmed. The chicken? Less boned than us.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 29, 2013 05:28 AM (eHIJJ)
He is asked whether several things should be rights or privileges, and he gets all of them wrong.
Healthcare, living wage, citizenship for illegals, etc are all rights according to him.
Pistol ownership sis a privilege.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2013 05:29 AM (GsoHv)
Posted by: toby928© from the future at January 29, 2013 05:29 AM (evdj2)
I'm not sure if it's "the mask slipping" or an intentional revelation. Either way it's quite telling about how they see the Constitution.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 05:29 AM (8y9MW)
college education - right
healthcare - right
livable wage - right
owning a handgun - privilege
american citizenship for someone not born here but worked here for 5 years - right
access to the internet - right
This is what Johnny said
Posted by: sophistahick at January 29, 2013 05:29 AM (UhXzR)
the chicken pecks from time to time when "pecked" from behind I'd wager....
the media convinces these fucks we never will
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:29 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 05:30 AM (Sptt8)
http://tinyurl.com/a3zrwuj
Didn't he already fail at this? Posted by: Blacksheep at January 29, 2013 09:22 AM
Yes, well, socialism didn't work all those other times either, but let's not let that stop us.
Posted by: huerfano at January 29, 2013 05:30 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 05:30 AM (bR2AR)
healthcare - right
livable wage - right
owning a handgun - privilege
american citizenship for someone not born here but worked here for 5 years - right
access to the internet - right
This is what Johnny said
Oh jeebus...I'm so glad we dodged a bullet (hehe) with this douchebag.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 05:30 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Clemenza at January 29, 2013 05:31 AM (x59Gv)
The sad thing is we could have fixed it with no bloodshed at several points just by destroying the initial infectant's lives.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:31 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 05:34 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: akula51 at January 29, 2013 05:34 AM (YesJa)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 05:35 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 05:36 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Clemenza at January 29, 2013 05:37 AM (x59Gv)
That's a hard one. Both are douchebags, but I wouldn't be able to pick who the lesser douchebag is. My answer would be none of the above.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 05:38 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Whatev at January 29, 2013 05:39 AM (A7Wh1)
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 05:40 AM (gKGI0)
http://is.gd/PdM8dD
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 05:40 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 05:41 AM (eKiiX)
On NPR this morning: Senator Flake
The usual well-known views were expressed in favor of reform (AKA amnesty). Then the really stupid comment which is now obligatory for Republicans -
(Paraphrasing..)
Q: Is there a moral angle to this?
Flakey: With regard to those who were brought here by no fault of their own, those who were brought by their parents, yes. THESE ARE CHILDREN BORN WITHOUT A COUNTRY.
Mierda.
Posted by: RioBravo at January 29, 2013 05:41 AM (eEfYn)
I aspire to Doc Zero's level of success.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 05:41 AM (8y9MW)
Legalizing and encouraging millions of people who think nothing of breaking the law will make you safer.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2013 05:42 AM (imtbm)
This moron actually said "livable wage" is a Right
My goodness...
Posted by: Jay at January 29, 2013 08:36 AM (3LaGb)
This is their ultimate goal: a european-style constitution that is a bill of things that the government will grant you rather than things that the government can and cannot do. So, you are granted the right to, say, free health care, a month of vacation every year, free housing if you need it -- but God help you if you say or do something that the government has decided is not a right it has granted.
Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 05:42 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Whatev at January 29, 2013 05:42 AM (A7Wh1)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 05:43 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 05:43 AM (gKGI0)
Posted by: Stacy M at January 29, 2013 05:43 AM (jJMNa)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 05:45 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Dick Cheney at January 29, 2013 05:45 AM (e8kgV)
The one this morning, or one of the previous ones? It's kind of been a topic lately.
That said: I don't think I can convince Liberals via a blog. For one thing, I don't have the readership. I probably have about 30 - 50 regular readers (I post multiple times a day, so each one might hit the site more than once per day).
What I'm hoping to do is give conservatives enough of an edge in their own conversations.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 05:45 AM (8y9MW)
Chaplain's assistants. "Serve God with a bible in one hand, and a gun in the other."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 05:46 AM (8y9MW)
"If he is a skeet shooter, why have we not heard of this? Why have we not seen photos? Why hasn't he referenced this at any point in time?" Blackburn said Monday on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront."
"I tell you what I do think," she later added. "I think he should invite me to Camp David, and I'll go skeet shooting with him and I bet I'll beat him."
She should press the issue and insinuate that he's a pussy for demuring. Nothing irks the TFG than to be called out for his excessive vaginosis.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 05:47 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Dick Cheney at January 29, 2013 05:48 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 05:48 AM (GVxQo)
They're not infringing on your rights they're merely regulating certain privileges incidental to the rights.
Expect that to be the call.
Remember: This country would have thought it stupid and tyrannical if someone had proposed requiring licenses to drive a horse and carriage.
And yet, we allow all sort of restrictions on our right to free movement because it's an automobile. Restrictions that amount to completely eliminating the right.
Same thing here, they're pushing this line of attack.
There's a lot of fucking people who need to be hung 'cause I'm getting damned sick and tired of everyone telling me what I can and can't do merely because they've assigned themselves the role of "smarter and better than you."
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2013 05:48 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: Rule #2 at January 29, 2013 05:48 AM (CypDC)
That's strange. My buddies in ROTC, after receiving their commission, had a chance to help out with recruiting before they had to report to their first assignment. My friend who was commissioned into Medical Service could NOT take part in the recruiting. Everyone else had the chance to. Not sure what the issue was.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 05:49 AM (GQ8sn)
>>>Seriously. Someone's going to get shot over this.
Sadly, I agree. The only, admittedly tiny, bright spot is that that outcome is exactly what the Founders intended. They thought lives were worth losing over it. Search your soul, I guess.
Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 05:49 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 05:50 AM (gKGI0)
Obama wouldn't know which end the of the gun the shot came out of. I mean, TFG can't even operate an umbrella through a gate.
Blackburn will not receive the courtesy of a reply.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 29, 2013 05:51 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: NR Pax at January 29, 2013 05:52 AM (1ml8s)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 05:52 AM (9Bj8R)
OT -
I just found out I've been paying for Netflix for the past year, without the benefit of watching anything.
Apparently, when I purchased a new tv a year ago for the bedroom it was "smart" tv (I bought it because it had a good picture and was the right size for the cabinet). At some point in the sale, I must have agreed to include a subscription to Netflix, although I don't remember ever being asked.
I guess I'll try it for a month or two while actually watching something on it. If you're out buying a new tv, pay more attention to the details than I did.
Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 05:53 AM (ZDsRL)
This was clearly filmed before Silky started get fucked my Hunter, he's got DSB
Deadly Sperm Build up. He can not think straight.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 29, 2013 05:53 AM (wR+pz)
I'll watch it soon. The problem is even self-described "libertarians" who somehow still are oddly compelled to be enthusiastic Obama backers aka Jordan are tossing around the "traitor" word for wanting an Art V and break up. One of life's ironies will be if/when the left starts killing people for invoking the plain language intent of our founding.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 05:53 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: ObamaDoesn'tCare at January 29, 2013 05:54 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 29, 2013 05:55 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: real joe at January 29, 2013 05:55 AM (PD2ad)
Oh, no. That's the crie du cor (I think I spelled that approximately right) of the Left in the tech industry.
"Internet access is a necessity in modern life, and so it should be a Right guaranteed by the government."
BTW- anyone who hears "net neutrality" and says, "Yeah, that's a good idea!": these are your allies.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 05:55 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 09:31 AM (LRFds)
This was, is, and will always be the case with human nature. We're too afraid, stupid, or cursed to do the easy thing that prevents the unthinkable thing.
Posted by: Jaws at January 29, 2013 05:56 AM (4I3Uo)
Not sure. I asked him if he was doing the Gold Bar Recruiting, but he said he could not because of his branch. This was right after he was commissioned, like the next day.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 05:56 AM (GQ8sn)
How have you been "paying" for it for a year w/o knowing about it? What kind of billing were they running?
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 05:57 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 05:57 AM (gKGI0)
Also, note which TVs are spying on you. I understand Samsung will soon be recording the audience that watches its TVs (viewer sound and position) and using that data for marketing, advertising, and whatever their evil little minds can think of (if they aren't doing it already). Big Brother without commands coming through the TV.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 29, 2013 05:57 AM (eHIJJ)
They had your credit card # and you didn't notice anything for the past year?
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 05:58 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Libtardo at January 29, 2013 05:59 AM (kmLUz)
Sadly, I agree. The only, admittedly tiny, bright spot is that that outcome is exactly what the Founders intended. They thought lives were worth losing over it. Search your soul, I guess.
Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 09:49 AM (3ZtZW)
You know, I think IÂ’m really late to this party, and this is a bit of a rant, but I want to confess.
Four years ago (and in some cases, longer) some very alarmist voices started popping up here. I never dreamed they were anything more than tin-foil types. I mean, martial law? Repealing the 22nd? Confiscating guns? Please. That shit just doesnÂ’t happen in the States.
Yet here we are, in 2013, actively discussing amongst ourselves whether or not we are actually willing to die on this hill. Not in some romantic metaphorical sense, but in a stone-cold literal one. ThatÂ’s scary.
WhatÂ’s scarier is that those alarmist voices donÂ’t sound alarmist anymore. They sound practical. It can be easily argued, through well-supported empirical and tangible facts that ObamaÂ’s entire Presidency has been leading to this: the disarming and enslaving of the populace.
The media has become an arm of the government in a sense never before seen. Bias we’ve seen. Advocacy and collusion we haven’t – not on this scale.
The takers have overpowered the makers in terms of voting demographics and planted our economy into what is – in my eyes – an unrecoverable spin.
The government has begun making all the moves one would expect if they were to declare themselves above the people. They are positioned to declare us their subjects, and half of the country is screaming in ecstasy. The other half is marveling at how easily itÂ’s happened, mourning the Republic, and quietly preparing for what looks more and more likely to be the inevitable showdown.
When I swore my oath, I always knew it was possible for me to die defending my country. I just never imagined it was possible for me to die defending it from my government.
And so to the question: Is this a hill IÂ’m willing to die on? Is this a hill on which IÂ’m willing to spill my blood in the literal sense of the word? When the metal meets the meat, am I prepared to give my live protecting my country from itself?
Yes.
Posted by: washington nearsider at January 29, 2013 05:59 AM (fwARV)
How have you been "paying" for it for a year w/o knowing about it? What kind of billing were they running?
Automatic deduction from a debit card that I used to pay for the tv.
It was less than 10 bucks a month, so I never noticed it.
Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 05:59 AM (ZDsRL)
::;
No.
Chaplains are not issued weapons. The chaplain's assistant serves as armed bodyguard, driver, altar boy, gopher and whatever else is required of him. Always seemed like a pretty shit job to me. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 05:59 AM (eKiiX)
They had your credit card # and you didn't notice anything for the past year?
--- Must be nice to be so rich you don't even read your bills.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2013 05:59 AM (SO2Q8)
When the country goes down the crapper, you can bet there will be a lawyer pushing down on the handle.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2013 06:00 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Libtardo at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (kmLUz)
Only if done incorrectly. I still appreciate a well-done sock of Mary.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 06:00 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (SO2Q
Well, my secretary reads them. Does that count?
Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at January 29, 2013 06:01 AM (wR+pz)
Are they?
This topic is always slightly confusing to me. I can't tell who the real "small govt" folks are. I hear net neutrality and I think of govt forcing ISP's to provide equal bandwidth and service to all sites. Then I think of an ISP wanting to provide special service with additional pricing, and offering it to customers as a choice.
It's all very cloudy to me.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 06:01 AM (GQ8sn)
>>>Also, note which TVs are spying on you.
I've gotta wonder about that. Smart meters do the same kind of thing, spying on you. I'd think there would be a market for anti- or counter-spying tech booming fairly soon, no?
"The Capitalists will sell us the rope we hang them with" - Lenin
"A fool and his money are soon parted" - PT Barnum
Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 06:02 AM (3ZtZW)
It was less than 10 bucks a month, so I never noticed it.
Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (ZDsRL)
I would think that a bank would require a signed contract before allowing any automatic deduction from an account.
Did you sign a contract?
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 06:02 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2013 09:59 AM (SO2Q
I read them, but don't really go into any detail unless there seems to be something way out of line.
Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 06:03 AM (ZDsRL)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 06:03 AM (eKiiX)
If they were, they could be called clerics instead.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 06:03 AM (GQ8sn)
"The Capitalists will sell us the rope we hang them with" - Lenin
"A fool and his money are soon parted" - PT Barnum
Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 10:02 AM (3ZtZW)
If you are talking about the same wireless electric meters that the people were raving about last week:
NO.THEY.DO.NOT
You need to find another truther thing to post about.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 06:03 AM (53z96)
Only if they were restricted to blunt weapons.
Posted by: GMan at January 29, 2013 06:04 AM (sxq57)
So, if your betters in the law were willing to publicly write such obvious and stupid lies, what do you think they say in private?
The courts cannot protect your rights anymore.
We, the people, must take back our rights.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2013 06:04 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 06:04 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 06:04 AM (9Bj8R)
Well the Colonel in charge of our ROTC battalion told him he couldn't do it. Not sure how he could confuse what he didn't know with what he was told.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 06:05 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 06:05 AM (l86i3)
why is the dumbest private smarter than the smartest 2d LT?
because the private is told he is dumb every day.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 06:05 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:01 AM (GQ8sn)
Net neutrality is federal govt intrusion on internet freedom. Not too cloudy to me.
We'll revisit it if ISPs start blocking messages they don't like(packet shaping and the like).
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 06:05 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:03 AM (eKiiX)
I once had to pull a butterbar out of the clap line on the ship and explain to him why officers did not stand in the clap line to be snickered at by everyone going down the passageway.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 06:05 AM (53z96)
>>>You need to find another truther thing to post about.
O cmon, I love me some obfuscation and paranoia
Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 06:05 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2013 09:57 AM (gKGI0)
Mine offered a cheaper version, thank goodness, and it has been very good to have. I get guaranteed appointments with enough duration to actually discuss things, and I get email service which was invaluable over Christmas when a critical prescription got screwed up.
I don't really have the money, but I couldn't take the chance and there was a finite number of slots.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2013 06:06 AM (Cnqmv)
I would think that a bank would require a signed contract before allowing any automatic deduction from an account.
Did you sign a contract?
No. No "contract" contract. I'm sure it must have been a box that was checked or box a failed to check to opt out of getting Netflix.
I think I'll go back through the statements and see if there is anything else on there that is unfamiliar.
Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 06:06 AM (ZDsRL)
Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 06:06 AM (GVxQo)
That's what I was thinking. It sounds like another intrusion on how ISP's operate and do business.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 06:07 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2013 06:07 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: GMan at January 29, 2013 10:04 AM (sxq57)
or longbows!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2013 06:07 AM (Cnqmv)
I was operating on my memory when I made my post in this thread; glad to see something on me still works.
Andy, this Edwards video is the best example I've seen to date showing just how wide the gulf is between 'conservatives' and 'progressives'. It really defines the whole issue starkly and quickly.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 29, 2013 06:08 AM (ccXZP)
Here is the "logic" (if you want to call it that) of "Net Neutrality." Because Internet Service is not regulated highly enough by the government, some ISPs might decide to throttle bandwidth for certain classes of customers, or certain specific websites.
For instance: small businesses might "only" be allowed so-much throughput, causing their site to run slow or crash if they get slammed, but bigger businesses could afford a better plan. (So, like it is today, when you think about it).
2nd For instance: Time Warner (closely affiliated with ESPN) could throttle traffic to MSN Sports (aka Fox Sports), thereby causing that site to load slowly for customers. (As far as I know, no one is doing this today. Further, it would actually be fairly problematical to start doing for both technical and "diplomatic" reasons).
The Net Neutrality crowd- believing that Internet access is (or at least should be) a "Right" has declared this operation of the Capitalist system to be "unfair." Therefore the Government should assume more control and tell ISPs what they can charge, and force them to give "equal" bandwidth to everyone.
Never mind that, for instance, Amazon.com takes in a whole lot more traffic than, say, The Ace of Spades Headquarters.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 06:08 AM (8y9MW)
HELLO, MY FRIEND!
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 06:08 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 06:08 AM (eKiiX)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 06:09 AM (wbmaj)
You can save a lot of money by having your useless family members put down.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 29, 2013 06:09 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 06:09 AM (eKiiX)
That's what I was thinking. It sounds like another intrusion on how ISP's operate and do business.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:07 AM (GQ8sn)
Ok here's my one squish caveat.
The ISPs DID take fed money to expand to hard to reach areas. Therefore they've essentially been given oligarchy status by the govt. So if they start squelching freedom of information blatantly, I wouldn't categorically say no to regulation. Maybe a breakup of the telcos again, and end subsidies.
But for now, there is no smoke, much less fire.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 06:09 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: Invictus at January 29, 2013 06:10 AM (OQpzc)
My one complaint about Netflix is the credit card billing. They were dual billing me for about six months before Mrs H caught it. They did refund the money back to the account, but it was a pain in the neck.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2013 06:10 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 06:10 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 06:10 AM (wbmaj)
Only if they were restricted to blunt weapons.
---
Aren't we due for a Maces vs. Flails epic beatdown?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2013 06:11 AM (SO2Q8)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 29, 2013 10:10 AM (l86i3)
VPN encryption all the time and PGP email might happen finally.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 06:11 AM (xAtAj)
What exists now under "smart meter" and what the govt wants that to become are 2 different things.
The Unified Smart Grid Tree Boy pushes for coupled with the necessary reduction in generating capacity will in fact lead to targeted rolling brown outs Vic, and since it is GOVERNMENT! based systems engineering I'd bet unplanned blackouts become a way of life if ever enacted.
They never strive for anything sensible and small no if we need CHANGE! let's make sure we strive to make it "as big as Ike's superhighways were in changing things!"
They ever wreck the grid there will be money to be made in propane/diesel back-up production for homes.
I plan to do my best to be independent of the grid as possible on my next house.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 06:11 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 29, 2013 10:09 AM (ZKzrr)
I've got a cousin that is a prime candidate for that program, but for appearances we need to wait until he get some form of illness.
Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 06:11 AM (ZDsRL)
That's what I was thinking. It sounds like another intrusion on how ISP's operate and do business.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 10:07 AM (GQ8sn)
The Net Neutrality Bill was another attempt at Crony Corruption by the Democrats for people like Net Flix and other "movie providers". They wanted the government to force the internet providers to give them access at the same cost as small service providers while they were using 100 times the bandwidth and driving up infrastructure costs.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 06:11 AM (53z96)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 29, 2013 06:12 AM (VtjlW)
Hmmm? Being told by the highest ranking officer that you are not allowed to do something is a strike against him?
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 06:12 AM (GQ8sn)
To be fair, spending isn't a problem to them. They are beyond expert at it. Spending is the easiest thing there is. Now cutting... that's a problem.
And as a cesspool of lawyers and liars (BIRM), Congress will readily parse in their tiny little heads those words such that they are the truth: "Spending really isn't a problem."
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 29, 2013 06:12 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:11 AM (53z96)
I don't think that's totally true. I think it's more about the speed of packets. Large companies already pay per GB.
It's packet speed they wanted to be able to control. So ISP A might let Netflix packets through faster compared to ISP B for a little extra money.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 06:13 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: realityman at January 29, 2013 06:13 AM (9AQdP)
well if Chubby Cheeks mary doesn't feel a trillion in new debt per annum with an ever shrinking discretionary % is an issue why are we nuking the military again???
Oh wait...
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 06:13 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 06:14 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 06:14 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: Bill at January 29, 2013 06:15 AM (xFYVW)
----
Well.... just consider it a tax and Im sure the Chief justice will approve.
Precedent.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 29, 2013 06:15 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2013 06:16 AM (Cnqmv)
Did the dumb fuck ever read The Bill of Rights?
Pathetic. I bet if you asked him whether poontang was a "right" or "privilege" he would have said "gosh darn right!
Posted by: Marcus at January 29, 2013 06:16 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 06:16 AM (eKiiX)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:11 AM (LRFds)
The property I tried to buy 22 years ago came back on the market. It's just what someone needs to go off the grid.
Google 221 Mill St. Rd. Brooklyn MI
Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 06:17 AM (ZDsRL)
There are zero electric meters now that can shut off power to your house via remote control. Some utilities experimented a few years ago with boxes to be installed IN your house that would allow them to shut off your A/C or hot water heater in return for discounted bills.
But if I am not mistaken even those have been discontinued because they were not able to make much difference in the load.
For almost ALL of the country individual home use does not constitute a large portion of the grid. Most of the power is being used by industrial and commercial businesses.
If you want proof just go out and look at a meter that is "wireless" and look for a large (100 amp or greater) breaker controlled by that wireless device. You will not find one.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 06:17 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Dante at January 29, 2013 06:17 AM (NWLVJ)
The papers aren't signed, but it's obvious we have two Americas now. We need to be building businesses, media, manufacturing, everything in our America to replace what we will lose when we divide. Please, if you have skills and money, or you own a business, move to a red state.
Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at January 29, 2013 06:18 AM (MNWe/)
Ok, then I don't support this. If there's enough competition between ISP's, I won't have to worry about this.
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 06:18 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 06:18 AM (eKiiX)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 29, 2013 06:19 AM (e0xKF)
At the most basic level, the difference is that a right comes from God and inures to all persons. They are, as Jefferson proclaimed, inalienable. Rights are the legal power to have another to act in a particular way or, as is the case with the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights, to bar another from acting in a way toward you.
Privileges, in contrast, are created by the State and so are subject to removal by the state at its option/whim.
Thus, as Justice OW Holmes once famously pointed out in brooming some whiner out of his court, there is a right to free speech but there is no right to be employed as a policeman as government employment is a privilege.
Similarly, no one has any "right" to the labor of another which is why health care can simply never qualify as a "right". It is a commodity. A service, maybe a privilege. But it cannot ever be a right, because to deem it such would necessarily force an unwilling provider into involuntary servitude.
If health care or internet access are "rights" that government is obligated to provide, then how come I have to pay for them? And what about cable TV is that a right too? With the deluxe HBO package. And the Playboy Channel too.
Just as bad is Edwards' muddled thinking about citizenship being a "right". What Edwards is really saying is that simply by operation of the passage of time an illegal act (entering the country in violation of the law) can be transformed into a legal "right" .
God help us. We are doomed.
Posted by: History major at January 29, 2013 06:19 AM (Xv7f/)
heh nice...
My uncle bought a schoolhouse that is prepped for Nuclear War....
only flaw is it is back home.
There was a definite artistry to turn of the last century construction that is lacking today.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 06:19 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:18 AM (eKiiX)
How would you react if the answer were "yes"?
Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 06:20 AM (RD7QR)
Thanks, Bill.
I posted it originally yesterday, but it's applicable - again - here.
I hate the idea of defending America from Americans, but this Republic was an idea long before it was the government. The idea is sound, and deserving of a defense.
All enemies, foreign and domestic.
Posted by: washington nearsider at January 29, 2013 06:20 AM (fwARV)
yeah pretty much....she's gonna love this next cycle I'm betting.
NOLA better get more of their "cultural diplomats" from 9th ward to come home...
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 06:20 AM (LRFds)
I'll admit that whenever the net neutrality debates start up I just tune out because it is extraordinarily rare for anyone to define what they mean by that term at the start of the debate.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 29, 2013 10:12 AM (VtjlW)
Not so. The Net Neutrality Bill was what I said earlier. There were two other separate bill the communists from NY put through to restore the Fairness Doctrine about 2005.
Both of those were shot down as well. But they will be back.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 06:21 AM (53z96)
I thought the second was the Fairness Doctrine. Unless it only applied to broadcast media. /i]
The second is part of the Net Neutrality crowd's fear-mongering to get NN passed. See, without Daddy Government watching them, those big mean ISPs might shut down your blog, or sell you bandwidth at such a high price that you can never host more than a few dozen visitors at once.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 06:22 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Pentangle at January 29, 2013 06:22 AM (ymPSi)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 06:22 AM (8y9MW)
It's packet speed they wanted to be able to control. So ISP A might let Netflix packets through faster compared to ISP B for a little extra money.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:13 AM (xAtAj)
The bill they were pushing through congress was to force the providers to not charge them per GB.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 06:22 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 06:22 AM (eKiiX)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 10:19 AM (LRFds)
That building has a metal addition on the front that is ugly as hell. The original is beautiful. I went to the Ford archives at Greenfield Village and got copies of the construction blueprints. There are 1 foot thick wood floors and the generator can be upgraded from 50Kw to 85Kw.
Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2013 06:23 AM (ZDsRL)
I don't have to read it to know what he says. I can already tell you the conclusion: Those crazy conservatives crying and complaining about how their taxes are going to the lazy are liars--they're the real takers.
Anyway, why am I a fan of Let It Fucking Burn?
Because even though I know it will be damned hard on me and a lot of us, it will be a damned sight harder on the FSA.
And I say that knowing full well that the most likely outcome of LIB is the FSA, roused by the Dems, will push for and pass even more laws taking from everyone else to give to the FSA.
But, LIB is the only chance where I can become invisible to the state.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2013 06:23 AM (imtbm)
Yes Vic we agree. I am pointing out their desired and open goal not their capability today. Sort of in theme with Obama having to reassure gays that there will be a "doc fix" for same sex marriage as a 'right" in amnesty it beggars the imagination how these rabid nutballs stay whipped when by nature they are not all high priority "ever."
It'll be interesting to see which part of the grid gets screwed on purpose if that day ever comes.
My money is District 1 will stay lit and friendly industrial sectors.
Electricity will be just another Chicago Way shakedown tool.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 06:24 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Fourth Virginia at January 29, 2013 06:25 AM (wbmaj)
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 10:22 AM (53z96)
Citation? I'm looking at the wiki page for the whole discussion and I don't see that.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 06:25 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 06:26 AM (RD7QR)
Occasionally there are questionnaires put out by educational/polling groups to survey what people know and don't know about the American experience: history, economics, law, government, that sort of thing.
The general public routinely scores poorly. You know who scores even worse? Politicians. I couldn't believe it when I first read some results a few years ago, but it seems to be the norm. And then we see asshats and frauds like Edwards and we have to think, "How could the results be otherwise?" I mean the idiot missed every single question. How is that possible? Statistically he should've stumbled over one correct answer by accident.
That, my good man, is who writes the laws which will control us: people who are both a) dumber and b) more dishonest than the average citizen.
Boned we are.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 29, 2013 06:26 AM (eHIJJ)
>>>I hate the idea of defending America from Americans
Don't get rattled. History shows whole societies can and do go completely batshit crazy once in awhile. Just our turn in the barrel. Our task is to prevent the 'completely' part of the description.
Anyway, back to work
Posted by: Bigby's Donkey Punch at January 29, 2013 06:26 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Dustin at January 29, 2013 06:27 AM (D9999)
Posted by: zsasz at January 29, 2013 10:26 AM (wWb/B)
It's in my rear view mirror.
Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 06:27 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Fritz at January 29, 2013 06:28 AM (WM+rJ)
getting there I have not finished my "Fuck Mccain" soda yet and Mikey Bloomberg doesn't let me mix drinks.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 06:28 AM (LRFds)
I wouldn't trust the Wiki for Net Neutrality. At the very least, I'd take it with a whole shaker full of salt.
Many (if not most) of the proponents realize that most Americans, once they realize the actual point of NN, would say, "seriously? This is what you're whining about?"
If you want to find out about Net Neutrality, hang around GizModo and Engadget.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 06:28 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Meadow Party 2016 at January 29, 2013 06:29 AM (GBXon)
Sorry if this has been discussed already
The JEF has the Army in Houston practicing suppression of the citizens. Check out The Blaze. Army has no notice exercise in neighborhoods of southeast Houston, running around the neighborhoods and frightening the citzenry. Anybody think its an accident this is happening in Texas? I don't.
Posted by: thunderb at January 29, 2013 06:29 AM (Dnbau)
Utilities already have the capability to do rolling blackouts by area, but not by individual homes.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 06:29 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 29, 2013 06:30 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2013 06:30 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 29, 2013 06:31 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Meadow Party 2016 at January 29, 2013 06:31 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 10:28 AM (8y9MW)
The only thing I can find is this:
"I want to ensure constituent companies like Netflix continue to grow and are not hindered by discriminatory data caps or other tactics that deny consumers the freedom and flexibility to stream video content whenever and wherever they want," the Silicon Valley lawmaker said.
But no such bill actually exists, as the FCC net neutrality rules I think still stand.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 06:31 AM (xAtAj)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 29, 2013 06:32 AM (Lxw+T)
Posted by: SurferDoc at January 29, 2013 06:32 AM (6H6FZ)
Of course they do, they are not yet in the position of needing to do so as baseline part of the system engineering design.
This is the Goreons trying to be too cute by half and "demanding production meet real demand."
Well forgive me for suspecting that the end result when they are mandating things like 33%-50% "renewable energy" in their Fapping is that what they mean is "demand will fall to meet production."
I am not in love with that market dynamic ever, and am even less in love with it when it is being done in the service of some half-baked barking moonbat Gaia religion's Book of Revelations equivalent fantasy.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 06:33 AM (LRFds)
I'm wondering if they get "conservatives" to do the dirty work: call a convention for something we want, like a balanced budget amendment, etc. Then hijack the convention with "socio-economic rights" amendments. Once the convention is called, the floor is open.
Posted by: Rule #2 at January 29, 2013 06:33 AM (CypDC)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 29, 2013 10:31 AM (VtjlW)
Then there are those of us who believe it should be used to ensure that there are equal numbers of naked blondes, brunettes and gingers to fap to on the internet.
Can't show favoritism. We must remain neutral in the fappage.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 29, 2013 06:33 AM (da5Wo)
http://takimag.com/radioderb
He covers Rubio's disgraceful editorial in the WSJ.
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 29, 2013 10:32 AM (Lxw+T)
Derbyshire. I just don't know what to make of him. Half the time he's brilliant and the other half he's stepping on his crank.
Posted by: joncelli at January 29, 2013 06:35 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: phoenixgirl waiting for spring training at January 29, 2013 06:35 AM (GVxQo)
and are not hindered by discriminatory data caps or other tactics that
deny consumers the freedom and flexibility to stream video content
whenever and wherever they want," the Silicon Valley lawmaker said.
Exactly their point. "Net Neutrality" is a prime example of an Orwellian Term. They want laws that prevent ISPs from creating "discriminatory data caps."
Never mind that no ISP has done so. Never mind that ISPs charge for basically two things (both summarized as "bandwidth"): amount of data moved, and the speed with which the bytes move. Never mind that it only makes sense that, say Netflix, would pay more based on pricing structures that existed (though perhaps not with the specific numbers they do now) prior to Netflix ever delivering a single movie via the web.
The point isn't "access to information" or to "prevent censorship." The point is to give the Government more control.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 29, 2013 06:36 AM (8y9MW)
And we have the right to PURSUE everything else.
NOT be given it. To PURSUE it, through our own efforts and talents.
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 29, 2013 06:37 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 29, 2013 10:25 AM (xAtAj)
That was from reading the Net Neutrality act of 2006 and the comments at the internet related sites who were opposed to it. They advertised it as one thing but once you delved into you could see what the bill actually did.
You would have to go back and find articles from 2006-2007 time frame. And do not believe ANYTHING on Wiki that is politically related.
Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2013 06:37 AM (53z96)
You gotta figure the best we may be able to get is to try to get our people with degrees to create an underground school of economic and legal thought akin to the Chicago School and the Original intent crowd. Endure the shitstorm and try to create pockets of non insane stability to reeducate the people in what can and cannot work indexed to liberty. The problem comes with people expecting 22 minute fixes now thanks to TV.
Maybe try to find an old UHF studio somewhere and rebroadcast pirate style after the implosion?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 06:37 AM (LRFds)
goddamned pack of incestuous whores.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 06:39 AM (LRFds)
Amen....Wiki is a coordinated liberal operation on politics and the wiki folks are fine with lies.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 29, 2013 06:40 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: votermom at January 29, 2013 06:41 AM (tRl9M)
Why are girls with brown hair and black hair both called "brunettes"? What do you call black hair anyway?
Posted by: EC at January 29, 2013 06:45 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 29, 2013 06:45 AM (Lxw+T)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at January 29, 2013 06:47 AM (Lxw+T)
These Ass-Hats keep getting elected because they are charming and pretty.
Telling us to wake up is moot. Everyone else needs to wake the hell up!
Posted by: tfox at January 29, 2013 06:48 AM (DVC2D)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 29, 2013 10:18 AM (eKiiX)
How would you react if the answer were "yes"?
--- PPV baby. I've finally got a marketable talent
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 29, 2013 06:53 AM (SO2Q8)
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I have one nerve left when it comes to this...and the media in my area (New York region) is banging on this non-stop.
Posted by: trainer @ work at January 29, 2013 04:24 AM (QbdUW)