August 06, 2013

Rubio Declares Funding ObamaCare to be the Rubicon
— Ace

As Allah points out a lot, Rubio has lost so much standing with his Amnesty Follies that he's required to be More Catholic Than the Pope on every other issue.

Still, this is very helpful. The media has spent some time elevating Rubio because of his willingness to shill for amnesty. We might as well use that media-created cachet for our own purposes.

“[T]here has to be some point at which we say, ‘Look, this is the issue where we draw the line,’” Rubio said. “I mean, on this issue we’re willing to fight no matter what the consequences, politically or otherwise. If that issue is not Obamacare, I can’t understand what issue it would be. And that’s the point I tried to make — of all the issues out there, if there was one issue that we should be willing to go to the limit on, this is it. I mean, you look at the impact this thing is going to have October 1 on every aspect of our economy. There’s literally not one aspect of our economy that is not negatively affected by Obamacare. And if that’s not an issue we’re willing to fight to the end on, I’m not sure there is such an issue that we’d be will to do that on.”

Rubio argued the House has the power to pass a bill that would defund Obamacare and then send it to the Senate. If the Senate, led by the Democratic Party, chose to dismiss that bill and opt to shut down the government, the onus would be on the Senate, a point he said had not been made enough.

BTW, this has started out a Bad Blogging Day and it will continue along that track. So it's going to be quickie links today. Apologies.

Posted by: Ace at 11:48 AM | Comments (191)
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1 To hell with Rubio.

That's all I've got.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 06, 2013 11:49 AM (8ZskC)

2 Hellooo (echo) anybody home?

Posted by: Mrs. Mittens at August 06, 2013 11:49 AM (hS9Qx)

3 If you're going to shoot, shoot, don't talk.

Posted by: ejo at August 06, 2013 11:50 AM (GXvSO)

4 Now Dondi has principles?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 06, 2013 11:51 AM (0HooB)

5 The Rubiocon?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 06, 2013 11:51 AM (uYaYO)

6 ThereÂ’s literally not one aspect of our economy that is not negatively affected by Obamacare.


Wouldn't it be great if there was an opposition party out there to make this point to the LIVs?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 06, 2013 11:52 AM (8ZskC)

7 You guys like tap-dancing?  'Cuz I can tap-dance.

Posted by: Marco Rubio, Schumer's Bitch at August 06, 2013 11:52 AM (8ZskC)

8 ThereÂ’s literally not one aspect of our economy that is not negatively affected by:
O-care
Amnesty
QE
Bloated Gubbmit
Unemployment
Welfare
EPA
Moocows fat ass.

Yeah draw us some lines Dondi.

Posted by: RolandTHTG at August 06, 2013 11:52 AM (QM5S2)

9 For sale -- one Republican Assault Spine. Never used, dropped once.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 06, 2013 11:53 AM (ccXZP)

10 If Rubio is the nominee I am not voting.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 06, 2013 11:53 AM (6bpHA)

11 Rubio is a useful idiot. I'm more than happy to use him up and spit him up.

Posted by: Y-not at August 06, 2013 11:53 AM (5H6zj)

12 I hope we can put our past squabbles behind us and you wingnuts can resume writing me checks.

Posted by: Marco Rubio, Schumer's Bitch at August 06, 2013 11:53 AM (8ZskC)

13

I say let Rubio preach it to the Democrat choir, since they're the only ones who give a shit about his opinion anymore.    It's a win/win in my book.   I don't have to pay attention to     the turncoat, and the Dems   have to try and turn our turncoat into their own turncoat.   And in the end, Rubio ends up flapping in the wind.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 06, 2013 11:53 AM (4df7R)

14 Yeah will this dog stay in the hunt?  Or will he suddenly sit, wag tail, and beg more media crumbs from the socialists?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 11:54 AM (vXdad)

15

Oh look an issue came up that he pander to the "extreme right" with!

 

How cute. Obviously we fickle lot must love him again.

Posted by: Bigby's Kung Fu Grip at August 06, 2013 11:54 AM (3ZtZW)

16 Or spit him OUT.

Posted by: Y-not at August 06, 2013 11:54 AM (5H6zj)

17 "ThereÂ’s literally not one aspect of our economy that is not negatively affected by Illegal Immigration" Fixed it for this dumb fuck.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 06, 2013 11:54 AM (6bpHA)

18 "Rubio has lost so much standing with his Amnesty Follies that he's required to be More Catholic Than the Pope on every other issue."

To pick up that metaphor and run with it, what Rubio has done on amnesty is the equivalent of the Pope converting to Islam and slaughtering a huge number of Catholics at Mass with a machine gun.

Not backing this guy for anything any longer. The only backing I would propose would be to back Allen West in a primary challenge to Rubio.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 06, 2013 11:54 AM (gqT4g)

19 Ah golly gee whiz that Rubio is so masterful when it comes to drawing a line in the sand. To bad he was so willing to cross the Rubicon on amnesty for illegals. Personally I want to see all of Ogabecare put into full force immediately. Let the economy bleed and the airheads feel the pain.

Posted by: angel with a sword at August 06, 2013 11:54 AM (EO34X)

20 Please post something lighthearted and funny, ace.

Life sucks right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 06, 2013 11:54 AM (lVPtV)

21

Good for him.  He got played by the Donks in congress over the whole immigration thing, and hopefully he has learned his lesson and wised up a bit. 

I would recommend he fire a few advisors for good measure too.  Hopefully he has done that.

Posted by: dan-O at August 06, 2013 11:54 AM (D0bIN)

22 Oh sure...now he's all hardcore righty.... and shit.


Posted by: dananjcon at August 06, 2013 11:54 AM (jvd3N)

23 Whatevs. It's not like we're still having sex with his garbage now, are we?

Posted by: EC at August 06, 2013 11:55 AM (GQ8sn)

24 How cute. Obviously we fickle lot must love him again.

Posted by: Bigby's Kung Fu Grip at August 06, 2013 03:54 PM (3ZtZW)

 

I'm with Ace on this one.

He's spoiled goods, but lets at use him for what he's good at.

Then toss him to the side of the road.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 06, 2013 11:55 AM (GaqMa)

25 I'm more than happy to use him up and spit him up.

Posted by: Y-not at August 06, 2013 03:53 PM (5H6zj)

 

^^ This ^^

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 06, 2013 11:56 AM (4df7R)

26

Quickie links?  About Rubio?

 

How about boobehs? throw us a bone here.

Posted by: Roy at August 06, 2013 11:56 AM (VndSC)

27

Just think  how he could've   not  supported amnesty and kept his reputation  and his base  intact and happy.

 

So sorry,   Rube-io.  I don't care for  getting  screwed by someone I supported.

 

If I heard any support for amnesty from him during his campaign, I  wouldn't have voted for him.   FOAD. And go fellate Schumer and McLame.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 06, 2013 11:56 AM (0HooB)

28 This fuck could have been debating and talking about Obamacare for the past couple months. Instead this fucking dipshit was selling us out on illegal immigration trying to give the Democrats a permanent majority of the electoral college. This mother fucker can go screw.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 06, 2013 11:57 AM (6bpHA)

29 Wow, I wonder how long before the media and John McCain turns on him? I got tomorrow.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 06, 2013 11:57 AM (qRasw)

30 "Fish heads, fish heads, roly poly fish heads"
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Anne-Catherine-Becker-Echivard-19.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 11:57 AM (vXdad)

31

Good for him. He got played by the Donks in congress over the whole immigration thing, and hopefully he has learned his lesson and wised up a bit.

 

Why would he   have  "wised up" on anything?   Immigration    "reform" is still going strong.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 06, 2013 11:57 AM (4df7R)

32 Mire offensive to me than this "I'm a severe conservative on Ocare" schtick, is the pandering on abortion stuff. Aborted babies aren't props.

Posted by: Y-not at August 06, 2013 11:57 AM (5H6zj)

33 Please post something lighthearted and funny, ace.

Life sucks right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 06, 2013 03:54 PM (lVPtV)

**



I'm with you and Ace- Jane. I'm in such a foul mood today- I could crush a baby Sea Turtle with bare hands.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 06, 2013 11:57 AM (jvd3N)

34 Stopping Obamacare is a necessity. In the end I believe that what Rubio and others have been saying is the plan will work. The Senate may capitulate to our side in the end. Maybe not, and it's shutdown/sequester/fiasco/whatever, like that's something new. But every day closer to 2016, Obama loses a bit of his influence in the Party, among those who have to run again, and again and again.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 06, 2013 11:58 AM (ZshNr)

35 let it burn

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work...birthday girl at August 06, 2013 11:58 AM (+x+nU)

36 I think "Rubiocon" is more to his thinking. Cosplayers dressed as Mr. Rourke and Tattoo, filling the convention center to overflowing...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars[/i][/b][/s] at August 06, 2013 11:58 AM (5kRy2)

37 Quick someone post quotes of all the times during his election campaign he took a hard line on illegal immigration, and all the times he said he was against any form of amnesty. Like this fucking asshole wouldn't fund Obamacare the second he was elected President. This fuckers word is garbage, he has no integrity.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 06, 2013 11:58 AM (6bpHA)

38 Attention Morons, His Highness Lord Obama will be giving you some charity soon. He's giving a speech on economics at 4. Listening to Obama speak on economics is like listening to a eskimo give a lecture on sun tan lotion.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2013 11:58 AM (g1DWB)

39 I've been in a foul mood pretty much everyday since the 2008 election.

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at August 06, 2013 11:59 AM (9+ccr)

40 >> “here has to be some point at which we say, ‘Look, this is the issue where we draw the line,’” Rubio said. There is. It's amnesty. Now go home and get your fuckin' shinebox.

Posted by: Andy at August 06, 2013 12:00 PM (7C5aA)

41 quickie links How many more references to the Sydney Leathers big steamin' tape o' sex must we endure, ace? How many?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars[/i][/b][/s] at August 06, 2013 12:00 PM (5kRy2)

42 "Fish heads, fish heads, roly poly fish heads" http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Anne-Catherine-Becker-Echivard-19.jpg Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 03:57 PM (vXdad) Interesting.

Posted by: EC at August 06, 2013 12:00 PM (GQ8sn)

43

I am against farm subsidies and liberal Hollywood values.  That's why I don't eat food or watch TV.

 

For fuck's sake.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 06, 2013 12:00 PM (CJjw5)

44 Great!  Let Rubio spearhead de-funding Obamacare in the Senate.  He's still going to get dumped for his amnesty antics next time he runs.

Posted by: S&G at August 06, 2013 12:00 PM (61B4w)

45

Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2013 03:58 PM (g1DWB)

 

Ah yes.

the previews of his remarks suggested winding down the FM twins, and replace it with...government backed mortgages provided by private lenders?

Because...change?! (It's not that much different is it.)

Posted by: tsrblke at August 06, 2013 12:01 PM (GaqMa)

46

Attention Morons, His Highness Lord Obama will be giving you some charity soon. He's giving a speech on economics at 4.

 

FFS.  It'll be the same g-ddamn speech he's given every day of his perpetual campaign.   Worthless blather. 

 

Will he address the reasons why he's got our embassies cowering in fear in the mid-east and North Africa?  No?       Okay, then will he address the claim that CIA operatives were on the ground in Benghazi, and that the DOJ and State Dept have been keeping them hush hush and moving them around teh country with different names, to prevent    them from talking to Congress?   No?    Okay, then will he address the mounting evidence that the    Federal Elections Commission was also involved in the targeting of conservative groups   by the IRS this past election cycle?  No?   

 

Okay then, glad we cleared that up.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 06, 2013 12:01 PM (4df7R)

47

Good for Rubio.  ObamaCare was passed only after a manipulation of Senate rules and with no GOP support.  The law was so unfinished when passed that most of it is being made up as they go along.  The President ignores the law daily, as he makes up exceptions and throws out new policies never permitted under the law. 

 

It's an unconstitutional usurpation of legislative power, not to mention an infringement of liberty.

 

Who the fuck cares if this battle is one we are certain to lose.  If we don't fight anyway we'll never have a chance to win.

 

Rubio is welcome to the side of righteousness!

Posted by: MTF at August 06, 2013 12:01 PM (B5y+v)

48 too little too late

Posted by: dandolo at August 06, 2013 12:02 PM (0XBx+)

49 Every time I hear this fuck get on TV and lie in his effeminate douchebag voice I want to throat punch a puppy. Who the fuck can trust a word out of his mouth?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 06, 2013 12:02 PM (6bpHA)

50

Hmm. Erase the line on a law about to be voted on which will destroy the Republican party and assure irreversible leftist hegemony in America.

But draw the line on a law already passed now that the "line" is moot.

Now there's our boy!

Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2013 12:02 PM (+pscO)

51 >>>>> If that issue is not Obamacare, I canÂ’t understand what issue it would be. *raises hand* Ooooo ooooo pick me pick me! I know what issue it could have been you balding illegal alien loving fuckhead.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 06, 2013 12:02 PM (cp4Rr)

52 I think Rubio should solve global hunger and the problems in the Mideast. He's got a better chance of solving those problems then he does his problems with the conservative base.

Posted by: RoadRunner at August 06, 2013 12:02 PM (XrGnJ)

53 Ok.. so, has anyone bothered to take this out to its logical conclusion?

WTF happens if Obamacare is defunded?  The regulations are still in place.  Is an insurance company liable for not making the proscribed regulatory changes come Jan 1, 2014?

Can they still deny coverage, or will "must carry" kick in?  What about community ratings?

What will happen to the tax code that will kick in Jan 1st?  Will Obamacare tax on the wealthy still be there?

Will the IRS continue to levy penalties for non-compliance?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 06, 2013 12:03 PM (f9c2L)

54

O/T you know I am glad real life terrorists aren't often as clever as the ones in a Clancy, Flynn, or Thor novel. Otherwise I would be more suspicious about SABRE crashing last night for several hours given the heightened terrorist threat right now.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at August 06, 2013 12:03 PM (RZ8pf)

55 Jane D'oh will this help?
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Adrien-Broom-color-my-world-10.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 12:03 PM (vXdad)

56 32 "Fish heads, fish heads, roly poly fish heads" http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Anne-Catherine-Becker-Echivard-19.jpg 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 03:57 PM (vXdad)


Bwaaaaa? 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 06, 2013 12:03 PM (sGtp+)

57 I'm with Ace on this one.He's spoiled goods, but lets at use him for what he's good at.Then toss him to the side of the road.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 06, 2013 03:55 PM (GaqMa)

 

 

-----------------------------------------

 

 

By supporting amnesty, he set himself up to be used.  So let's use him.  Let's use him up completely.  Besides.  We need more voices in the Ocare opposition.  Having him as a voice, no matter how I dislike him, is still a voice.  Ocare must be defeated. 

 

Then let Allen West primary him.

Posted by: Soona at August 06, 2013 12:03 PM (kQK8T)

58

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 06, 2013 04:01 PM (4df7R)

 

He's seriously still kicking the "GM is on the upward track" line.

No really.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 06, 2013 12:03 PM (GaqMa)

59 It sure is inspiring to hear the President of the United States giving shout outs. Jesus. Of course he is now forced to go to a frigging high school in Phoenix to give a speech. Only young dummies will listen to this talking turd at this point.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2013 12:03 PM (g1DWB)

60 Is Rubio trying to change the subject to get immigration reform passed? Byron York :

So Democrats don't really mind if Republicans use up all their grass-roots energy railing about Obamacare. It's already the law. What would be a problem for Democrats, and for some pro-reform Republicans, is if the GOP grassroots concentrated its fire on immigration reform. That could well mean the end of President Obama's top legislative priority for his second term.

Immigration reform won't be taken up by the House until this fall. But its future will be determined in August, in town halls around America, where Republicans will either voice real opposition to the current proposals, or signal that they will go along. The next month will tell the story.

http://tinyurl.com/njgsvjx



Posted by: Dr Spank at August 06, 2013 12:04 PM (qRasw)

61

>>>>Stopping Obamacare is a necessity

 

Yes. But not going to happen. They'll make it look like it was a tough fight and all but, shucks, we just couldn't get the votes together guys.

Posted by: Bigby's Kung Fu Grip at August 06, 2013 12:04 PM (3ZtZW)

62 Who did Gaylord shout out to today?  His My little Brony Pal Morsi?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 12:04 PM (vXdad)

63 BURN THE FUCKER DOWN.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 06, 2013 12:04 PM (wtvvX)

64 Trust, but verify.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at August 06, 2013 12:04 PM (4p5/2)

65 "He's seriously still kicking the "GM is on the upward track" line.
No really. Posted by: tsrblke at August 06, 2013 04:03 PM"

Someone tell President Toonces to turn the fucking graph right side up.

Posted by: RedMinBlueState at August 06, 2013 12:05 PM (knoK7)

66 >> There is. It's amnesty. Now go home and get your fuckin' shinebox.

Posted by: Andy at August 06, 2013 04:00 PM (7C5aA)
 
Close it up. We got a winner.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 06, 2013 12:05 PM (ccXZP)

67 He's giving a speech on economics at 4.

4:13, and not a minute earlier.

Posted by: The Guy Named on Chelsea's birth certificate at August 06, 2013 12:05 PM (/kI1Q)

68 Here's some ACA news that I've finally tracked down. Subsidies will be based on something new called "Modified Adjusted Gross Income", which is basically your gross income excluding some things like inheritances, but not including your deductions. They will NOT be based upon AGI, which means that a lot of people are going to find that the government will be paying a lot less of their premiums than they thought, as it's going to be based upon the big number at the top of form 1040, not the little number at the bottom. This is especially bad news for self employed and small business owners.

Posted by: Weirddave at August 06, 2013 12:05 PM (aH+zP)

69 So wait let me get this straight, this guy wants to use democratic means to overturn a law passed by a prior Congress.......but meanwhile he wants to grant instant legal status and eventual citizenship to millions upon million upon millions of foreign citizens who are dwelling in our country illegally? Using that logic why doesn't he just try to pass a law granting everyone amnesty from Obama care and tell them to ignore it? Why even bother overturning it, tell everyone fuck it the law doesnt matter you ignorant fucking piece of shit.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 06, 2013 12:05 PM (6bpHA)

70 phony scandals! Drink!

Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2013 12:05 PM (g1DWB)

71 fuck.  off, rapist scum sock.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 06, 2013 12:05 PM (/kI1Q)

72 So has JEF got around to blaming the Rep.'s yet in his speech to the HS kids?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at August 06, 2013 12:05 PM (9+ccr)

73 Exit question!

Would a Rubio-led win for conservatives on Obamacare funding redeem him in the eyes of AOSHQ? 

Mort!

Posted by: Old Guy on PBS Who Won't Stop Yelling at August 06, 2013 12:05 PM (4I3Uo)

74 He's seriously still kicking the "GM is on the upward track" line.
No really.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 06, 2013 04:03 PM (GaqMa)

 

Which is why they're lowering the price of the already-losing-money-hand-over-fist Volt.   Sure.  Of course they're doing fine.  They're roaring back to life!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 06, 2013 12:05 PM (4df7R)

75 Of course he is now forced to go to a frigging high school in Phoenix to give a speech.

Is phoenixgirl's kid in the audience with a giant SCOAMF banner?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 06, 2013 12:05 PM (uYaYO)

76

 How cute. Obviously we fickle lot must love him again.Posted by: Bigby's Kung Fu Grip at August 06, 2013 03:54 PM (3ZtZW)

 

--------------------------------

 

If you "love" any politician,  you're an idiot.  They're fucking employees.  Cogs  in a machine to be used  and  replaced  when they break down  or are found to have defects.  And sometimes,  you have to limp along with a damaged  cog  because you don't have a replacement part on the shelf and the truck's not coming  in until 2016.

 

That doesn't mean you don't keep an eye out for cracks.  It  means sometimes you make the best of a bad part, because  that's what you're stuck with for now.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 06, 2013 12:06 PM (CJjw5)

77

>>"Is Rubio trying to change the subject to get immigration reform passed? "

 

 

 

 

Yes. We've just spent the last year learning the hard lesson that he's a weasel scum liar. This is what weasel scum liars do. And they NEVER change.

Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2013 12:06 PM (+pscO)

78 Those damn republicans are destroying health care because: Racism!

Posted by: Eton Cox at August 06, 2013 12:06 PM (q177U)

79 Attention Morons, His Highness Lord Obama will be giving you some charity soon. He's giving a speech on economics at 4. High Speed Rail - DRINK! Infrastructure - DRINK! Roads and Bridges - DRINK! The Middle Class - DRINK!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 06, 2013 12:07 PM (7ObY1)

80

Would a Rubio-led win for conservatives on Obamacare funding redeem him in the eyes of AOSHQ?

 

No.

 

This would be my reaction:

 


"Good job, Rubio!   Too bad you're still a fucking turncoat.  Buh-bye."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 06, 2013 12:07 PM (4df7R)

81 78 He's seriously still kicking the "GM is on the upward track" line.No really.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 06, 2013 04:03 PM (GaqMa) 

Which is why they're lowering the price of the already-losing-money-hand-over-fist Volt. Sure. Of course they're doing fine. They're roaring back to life! 
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 06, 2013 04:05 PM (4df7R)


Poised.  For.  Recovery.

Coming Soon (TM).

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 06, 2013 12:07 PM (sGtp+)

82 This is stupid.

Wait until the GOP gets control of the Senate in 2015, and then force the dems to filibuster a budget that defunds O'Care.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 06, 2013 12:07 PM (UypUQ)

83 Phony Scandals! - DRINK!

Ah the hell with it.  TFG is turning me into a raging alcoholic.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 06, 2013 12:08 PM (lVPtV)

84 I am perfectly willing to let Rubio be our  leader   cannon fodder on this hill.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 06, 2013 12:08 PM (cqv5O)

85 Sydney Leathers and Phony Scandals walk into a bar ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 06, 2013 12:08 PM (uYaYO)

86 83 Attention Morons, His Highness Lord Obama will be giving you some charity soon. He's giving a speech on economics at 4.  
High Speed Rail - DRINK!
Infrastructure - DRINK!
Roads and Bridges - DRINK!
The Middle Class - DRINK!  
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 06, 2013 04:07 PM (7ObY1)


Let Me Be Clear
As I have Said
Uhm

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 06, 2013 12:08 PM (sGtp+)

87

You know.

The housing market collapse is what allowed me to afford the home I have.

So he can kiss my ass.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 06, 2013 12:08 PM (GaqMa)

88 57 So I didn't have internet access last night. Who wants to give me a vague overview of what went wrong in the ONT? Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 06, 2013 04:03 PM (tWmgi) Grave offense was taken by the Head Ewok over some commenters' persistent attempts to link Amanda Marcotte's world view that males want sex solely for the purpose of makin' babies and General Mills' new marketing campaign for Nut 'n' Honey Cheerios.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars[/i][/b][/s] at August 06, 2013 12:08 PM (UOYbf)

89 Not to worry. I'm sure his butt-buddies Shumer and McLame will help him in this as he helped them with amnesty.

(snort... I crack myself up sometimes)

Posted by: RoadRunner at August 06, 2013 12:09 PM (XrGnJ)

90 SCOAMF DOESN'T THINK PEOPLE SHOULD FLIP HOMES

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work...birthday girl at August 06, 2013 12:09 PM (+x+nU)

91 The only Repub with any balls is Ted Cruz.  And boy oh boy does RINO Joe Scarborough hate his guts. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 06, 2013 12:09 PM (lVPtV)

92 Rubio sounds good, now. But, didn't he sound good initially on Rush's & Levines show? Yeah, he did at first. He will squirm and wiggle & become the little pond scum weasel he is. Face it, we are stuck with Obamacare until the revolution

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at August 06, 2013 12:09 PM (HVff2)

93 Happy Birfday, phoenixgirl!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 06, 2013 12:09 PM (lVPtV)

94 SCOAMF DOESN'T THINK PEOPLE SHOULD FLIP HOMES

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work...birthday girl at August 06, 2013 04:09 PM (+x+nU)

 

Of course he doesn't.  Because taking broken down old properties and turning them into something someone would want to buy is BAD BAD BAD.

 

I fucking hate him.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 06, 2013 12:10 PM (4df7R)

95 Did Obama say phony scandals?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 06, 2013 12:11 PM (6bpHA)

96 The only Repub with any balls is Ted Cruz. And boy oh boy does RINO Joe Scarborough hate his guts.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 06, 2013 04:09 PM (lVPtV)

 

If you've got an R near your name and Intern Murdering Scarborough hates   you,  you're     okay     in my book

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 06, 2013 12:11 PM (4df7R)

97 {{{ Phoenix Girl }}} 

Sorry Gaylord Focker is raining on your birthday.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 12:11 PM (vXdad)

98 I can't believe this asshole is taking credit for the ever so slight rebound in the housing industry. He can't be narcissistic enough to believe this bullshit, can he?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2013 12:11 PM (g1DWB)

99 SCOAMF DOESN'T THINK PEOPLE SHOULD FLIP HOMES
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work...birthday girl at August 06, 2013 04:09 PM (+x+nU)

Real investors get their property at pennies on the dollar from Tony Rezko.

Posted by: Jaws at August 06, 2013 12:12 PM (4I3Uo)

100 Finally ! A hill worth fighting for !! *fully expecting to be disappointed again**

Posted by: McCool at August 06, 2013 12:12 PM (nCSwS)

101

Not saying its a bad thing but it looks like many here have turned to single issue voters. 

 

Also I am giving Rubio the benefit of the doubt and believe his positions on the issues are how he truly feels and is not  political posturing. 

 

That said,  I  pointed out long before Rubio's fall from grace and Cruz's election  that Cruz was the Rubio everyone was looking for.  (deservedly   sprains  shoulder  patting self on  back. ) 

Posted by: polynikes at August 06, 2013 12:12 PM (m2CN7)

102 O/T you know I am glad real life terrorists aren't often as clever as the ones in a Clancy, Flynn, or Thor novel. Otherwise I would be more suspicious about SABRE crashing last night for several hours given the heightened terrorist threat right now. Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle
..............
When the best they've got is a doofus who cannot light his own underwear bomb, or the shoe bomber or the Times Square incompetent, it really makes you wonder how sophisticated they are.

Unfortunately, you cannot take that for granted.

The SABRE system crashing would be a sophisticated way to mess with the western world.  Even worse would be to crash the internet infrastructure or airline routing or utility communications, etc.

The corporate world is putting all their data "in the cloud".  What happens if the "cloud" disappears for a few days?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 06, 2013 12:12 PM (f9c2L)

103 Sure it is Rubio saying it.  Doesn't mean he isn't right.

So many people say Ocare is THE final blow, that when it kicks in the die is cast, single payer is only a matter of when.  Then they talk about future tactics and strategy.   Huh?  After THE END there is no future.  There is no tactics, no strategy other than surviving Thunderdome.  So why aren't more of our politicians and pundits acting like they actually believe it?

You don't worry about the long term consequences.  You don't worry about bipartisanship.  You don't worry about whether the NYT and Meet the Press will ever invite you back.  You don't hold forces in reserve.  If you are fighting the final battle you go all in, holding nothing back and damn the consequences.

So is Ocare such a battle or not.  Even for us morons?  Because if we don't start thinking in those terms and making darned sure we get out to the town halls going on during this recess you can bet our 'leaders' won't feel the passion.

Posted by: John Morris at August 06, 2013 12:12 PM (OMT3n)

104 Someone say phone scandal?

Posted by: Rupert Murdoch at August 06, 2013 12:12 PM (3ZtZW)

105 That's right: you are still a Friend of Ceaser.

Posted by: DM at August 06, 2013 12:12 PM (6/HQ8)

106 90 83 Attention Morons, His Highness Lord Obama will be giving you some charity soon. He's giving a speech on economics at 4.
High Speed Rail - DRINK!
Infrastructure - DRINK!
Roads and Bridges - DRINK!
The Middle Class - DRINK!
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 06, 2013 04:07 PM (7ObY1)


Let Me Be Clear
As I have Said
Uhm
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 06, 2013 04:08 PM (sGtp+)

There are those who say - DRINK!
I have been told - DRINK!
This [whatever] that I have inherited - DRINK!

Posted by: RoadRunner at August 06, 2013 12:13 PM (XrGnJ)

107 >>Did Obama say phony scandals? Just once so far. Early innings.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2013 12:13 PM (g1DWB)

108 102 I can't believe this asshole is taking credit for the ever so slight rebound in the housing industry. He can't be narcissistic enough to believe this bullshit, can he?



The worthless fuckwit claims the ability to stop the seas from rising.  I just wonder if he believes all the bullshit that seeps from his lips.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 06, 2013 12:13 PM (lVPtV)

109 #72  Well,  this should enrage every single person at my beauty salon,  since they are all "independent contractors."  (Most salons here in Indiana are set up that way.)

Some of the dim bulb assistants still think they are going to get free healthcare.

Well,  they should have paid attention to who was selling the snake oil.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 06, 2013 12:13 PM (GoIUi)

110 Also I am giving Rubio the benefit of the doubt and believe his positions on the issues are how he truly feels and is not political posturing. That said, I pointed out long before Rubio's fall from grace and Cruz's election that Cruz was the Rubio everyone was looking for. (deservedly sprains shoulder patting self on back. ) Posted by: polynikes at August 06, 2013 04:12 PM (m2CN7) How the fuck can that be how he truly feels if he took the exact opposite standpoint before his election? He is a lying mother fucker.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 06, 2013 12:13 PM (6bpHA)

111

Obammy also didn't believe people should drive around in old cars because Gaia,    so he went Cash for Clunkers on that shit.

 

And now     no one can find a cheap used car anymore.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 06, 2013 12:14 PM (4df7R)

112 Of course he doesn't. Because taking broken down old properties and turning them into something someone would want to buy is BAD BAD BAD.

Well, duh.  Harder to force everyone into high-density concrete blocks if single-family homes are rehabbed instead of bulldozed.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 06, 2013 12:14 PM (/kI1Q)

113 Worry about Rubio's overall fealty on Election day, right now he's got he right message in a fight we might just be able to win. Loathe him, but support his position. You don't even have to mention his name.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 06, 2013 12:14 PM (ZshNr)

114 Welcome back, Rubio! All is forgiven.

Ya know, we've decided we're not gonna rob you.

But we're still gonna hit you with the bat.*





*punchline from an old but still great Flip Wilson joke

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at August 06, 2013 12:14 PM (/lWM8)

115

>>>Not saying its a bad thing but it looks like many here have turned to single issue voters.

 

AKA line in the sand

Posted by: Bigby's Kung Fu Grip at August 06, 2013 12:14 PM (3ZtZW)

116
Would a Rubio-led win for conservatives on Obamacare funding redeem him in the eyes of AOSHQ?
Posted by: Old Guy on PBS





Even if he set himself on fire like a protesting Buddhist monk, he'd still be politically friend-zoned -- at best.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2013 12:14 PM (kdS6q)

117 "Attention Morons, His Highness Lord Obama will be giving you some charity soon. He's giving a speech on economics at 4. High Speed Rail - DRINK! Infrastructure - DRINK! Roads and Bridges - DRINK! The Middle Class - DRINK!"

And don't forget:

"Investment" -- hook up the Val-U-Rite intravenous drip. You're going to hear that one more than once.

You would figure that after a trillion dollars in borrowed money having been "invested" by Ogabe in his first term with no noticeable results, that particular trope would have been beaten to death. Nope! He's doubling down!

The latest generous offer from Ogabe is that if the GOP agree to tax simplification, he will graciously agree. As long as the "simplification" sucks even more taxes out of the rapidly shrinking productive class in America. And as long as the additional tax money is Ogabe's to "invest" as he sees fit.

Wow! What a great deal _that_ is!

Expect Boehner to drink four bottles of merlot in a row and then agree.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 06, 2013 12:15 PM (gqT4g)

118 That said, I pointed out long before Rubio's fall from grace and Cruz's election that Cruz was the Rubio everyone was looking for. (deservedly sprains shoulder patting self on back. )

Posted by: polynikes at August 06, 2013 04:12 PM (m2CN7)

-----

Golf clap!

Posted by: RoadRunner at August 06, 2013 12:15 PM (XrGnJ)

119

Hell hath no fury like an AoS Moron scorned.

Posted by: dan-O at August 06, 2013 12:15 PM (D0bIN)

120 I can't believe this asshole is taking credit for the ever so slight rebound in the housing industry. He can't be narcissistic enough to believe this bullshit, can he?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2013 04:11 PM (g1DWB)

 

You question if he can be that   narcissistic, I give you     Fake. Greek. Columns.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 06, 2013 12:15 PM (4df7R)

121  I am perfectly willing to let Rubio be our leader cannon fodder on this hill.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 06, 2013 04:08 PM (cqv5O)

 

 

--------------------------------------------

 

 

Agree.  As a matter of fact, I'd cheerlead for a dem if he said  he said he was going to help defund Ocare.  Even if he voted for it  to begin with. 

 

Ocare has to be defeated.

Posted by: Soona at August 06, 2013 12:16 PM (kQK8T)

122

Sure it is Rubio saying it. Doesn't mean he isn't right.

 

Which is why many of us are saying, "Let him take our shrapnel and expend all that lovely new political capital he's earned for himself with the dhimmies."   We're still not voting for him again.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 06, 2013 12:17 PM (4df7R)

123 Why defund? As long as we're going to hell in a handbasket, might as well go 3rd class.

Posted by: Caliban at August 06, 2013 12:17 PM (DrC22)

124

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 06, 2013 04:17 PM (tWmgi)

 

Protect people who might vote for me.

screw everyone else.

That's this speech in a nutshell.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 06, 2013 12:18 PM (GaqMa)

125 Let's treat Rubio the way the Democrats treat McCain! Get him to help us get what we want, then tell him to "fuck off. " This method works on McCain anyway.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at August 06, 2013 12:18 PM (bb5+k)

126

>>>Ocare has to be defeated.

 

But it will not be. So what's your plan?

Posted by: Bigby's Kung Fu Grip at August 06, 2013 12:19 PM (3ZtZW)

127 Jehmu Green is a fucking idiot.  Someone shove a pie in her smug, stupid face.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 06, 2013 12:19 PM (lVPtV)

128 "The housing market collapse is what allowed me to afford the home I have."

This is what blows my mind when I hear the chattering classes talking about how the Fed must create a tidal wave of virtual money to head off "the evils of deflation".

Oh dear! Things _might cost less_. At a time when average consumers' incomes have been kicked to the curb. We surely can't allow THAT nightmare scenario.

It's far better to have those average consumers' shrunken incomes instead be devoted to buying less stuff at artificially higher prices. So decree the chattering classes.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 06, 2013 12:20 PM (gqT4g)

129

Not saying its a bad thing but it looks like many here have turned to single issue voters.

 

My single issue is not Rubio's immigration psychosis.  It's that he was vocally ANTI-illegal immigration during   his campaign,   and promptly turned around and didn't just vote FOR illegal immigration, he actively and loudly campaigned WITH DEMOCRATS for it.

 

He's dead to me.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 06, 2013 12:21 PM (4df7R)

130 Jehmu Green is a classic lying liberal.  HATE.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 06, 2013 12:21 PM (lVPtV)

131 Hey MWR you were asking about Carolyn and Japan.  Robert just posted this that has bearing I think.

The Japanese Naval Self Defense Force has launched a new warship - Izumo.  It's officially an helicopter carrier with a 250 meter flight deck.  You read that right, Japan is deploying its first carrier since WWII.

http://news.sky.com/story/1125173/japan-unveils-largest-warship-since-wwii

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 12:21 PM (vXdad)

132 SHAMNESTY!

Posted by: Marky Mark Rubio at August 06, 2013 12:21 PM (Hx2XA)

133 The media has spent some time elevating Rubio because of his willingness to shill for amnesty.


And just as quickly they'll tear him down and call him a hater/killer because opposing Obamacare is racist.

Posted by: DangerGirl, full of sweet rage at August 06, 2013 12:22 PM (GrtrJ)

134 Bad blog. *smack* Bad.

Posted by: vvillovv at August 06, 2013 12:22 PM (KXm42)

135

>>>> We're still not voting for him again.

 

Sure you will. Here's the GOP saying "Where else you gonna go?" then putting him up for 2020 and you going "Marco? POLO!" and laffing it up with a GandT. He'll be intro'd by Rep. Meghan McCain.

Posted by: Bigby's Kung Fu Grip at August 06, 2013 12:22 PM (3ZtZW)

136

Posted by: torquewrench at August 06, 2013 04:20 PM (gqT4g)

 

Granted, my eyes are bigger than my stomach in some sense. I own a much larger home than I have time to clean on a regular basis.

Note to self: start making some free labor bots children to help.

Posted by: tsrblke at August 06, 2013 12:22 PM (GaqMa)

137 First charges filed in Benghazi phony scandal. Let me guess: Some sort of YouTube copyright violation?

Posted by: USA at August 06, 2013 12:23 PM (VIaw0)

138 BTW, this has started out a Bad Blogging Day and it will continue along that track. So it's going to be quickie links today. Apologies.



That's what happens when you're up all night dicking around on the ONT.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at August 06, 2013 12:23 PM (yh0zB)

139 The Japanese Naval Self Defense Force has launched a new warship - Izumo. It's officially an helicopter carrier with a 250 meter flight deck. You read that right, Japan is deploying its first carrier since WWII. http://news.sky.com/story/1125173/japan-unveils-largest-warship-since-wwii Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 04:21 PM (vXdad) I was wondering when you'd get around to addressing that.

Posted by: EC at August 06, 2013 12:23 PM (GQ8sn)

140   The Japanese Naval Self Defense Force has launched a new warship - Izumo. It's officially an helicopter carrier with a 250 meter flight deck. You read that right, Japan is deploying its first carrier since WWII. 
http://news.sky.com/story/1125173/japan-unveils-largest-warship-since-wwii 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 04:21 PM (vXdad)


But does it transform into a giant robot piloted by schoolgirls?   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 06, 2013 12:23 PM (sGtp+)

141
The Japanese Naval Self Defense Force has launched a new warship - Izumo. It's officially an helicopter carrier with a 250 meter flight deck.



And yet since the crash of the USAF helicopter on Okinawa yesterday that killed a crewman, the Okinawans are going ape shit demanding no more US helicopters be flown.  o_O

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 06, 2013 12:23 PM (lVPtV)

142 And let me add that I don't give a rat's fuck what Rubio says any more.  He lied and continues to lie about amnesty.  He treats us like stupid racists and for that he can go fuck himself.  I'm tired of being looked down upon by our "betters" in government.

Posted by: DangerGirl, full of sweet rage at August 06, 2013 12:23 PM (GrtrJ)

143

This is FUCKING INSANE.

At the same time Obama wants more "private capital in play" he wants to strengthen the FHA?!

What a fucking moron.

(Of course part 1 is a lie anyway.  He wants to privatize profits and subsidize risk, like always.)

Posted by: tsrblke at August 06, 2013 12:24 PM (GaqMa)

144 How can Ocare work? It's like a 747 with plywood wings. How can it work even if you try to make it work?

Posted by: eleven at August 06, 2013 12:24 PM (KXm42)

145

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 06, 2013 04:21 PM (4df7R)

 

Not that I agree but he contends that he is still adamantly against illegal immigration  and his plan does not reward  illegals already here.   Its bullshit to us but I think  he truly believes that.  

Posted by: polynikes at August 06, 2013 12:25 PM (m2CN7)

146

I was thinking more that the crash of SABRE was to allow them to add passengers to the manifests to get around the watch list. Or, to allow luggage to make flights that have things that they need without having the luggage get additional scrutiny. But, then again I read way too many thrillers.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at August 06, 2013 12:25 PM (RZ8pf)

147 150 How can Ocare work?  It's like a 747 with plywood wings. How can it work even if you try to make it work? 

Posted by: eleven at August 06, 2013 04:24 PM (KXm42)



Accidentally burn it down and collect the insurance money.  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 06, 2013 12:25 PM (oY6Yp)

148 "The Japanese Naval Self Defense Force has launched a new warship - Izumo. It's officially an helicopter carrier with a 250 meter flight deck. You read that right, Japan is deploying its first carrier since WWII."

Officially a helicopter carrier, but the intent is fairly clear that they intend to try the F-35B vertical landing jet aboard it.

Unfortunately, the entire F-35 program, in all variants, is turning out to be a giant inept fustercluck, and betting a naval air strategy around it is not going to end well.

If there is a naval punching match in the South China Sea in the next decade, China is going to win it so overwhelmingly it won't be funny. Not least due to sheer numbers. Quantity has a quality all its own, as Stalin said, while pitching another fifty divisions into the line.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 06, 2013 12:26 PM (gqT4g)

149 150 How can Ocare work?



A lot of GA LIVs are about to find out how it doesn't.  And those of us who knew what a clusterfuck it was will be suffering along with them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 06, 2013 12:26 PM (lVPtV)

150 Rubicon, isn't that the river where the Roman REPUBLICANs were all lined up ready to stop Obama Julius, then they ran away?

Posted by: Mark E at August 06, 2013 12:26 PM (w5RwR)

151

1. Add 30-odd million people who aren't paying for healthcare to system.

2. ????

3. Profit!   Savings!

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 06, 2013 12:26 PM (cqv5O)

152

>>"Wait until the GOP gets control of the Senate in 2015, and then force the dems to filibuster a budget that defunds O'Care."Posted by: Serious Cat at August 06, 2013 04:07 PM (UypUQ)

 

 

 

 

 

"GOP" and "force" are two words that can never be used in the same sentence without rupturing the fabric of reality.

Posted by: rrpjr at August 06, 2013 12:26 PM (+pscO)

153 Maybe Dondi has his uses but that's only if he's not lying again and does the opposite of what he says he believes.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 06, 2013 12:27 PM (28TG+)

154

136 The Japanese Naval Self Defense Force has launched a new warship - Izumo. It's officially an helicopter carrier with a 250 meter flight deck. You read that right, Japan is deploying its first carrier since WWII.

 

I was under the impression that it's officially a destroyer that just happens to be able to carry a shitload of helicopters.

 

Posted by: Anachronda at August 06, 2013 12:27 PM (xGZ+b)

155

Never heard of Jehmu Greene... quick search returned:

"Jehmu Greene is an evangelist for disenfranchised, vulnerable, and marginalized communities"

 

In other words:  Worthless Idiot

 


Every time someone mentions "social justice" they really mean "socialism".

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 06, 2013 12:27 PM (EGPJQ)

156 Jane D'oh that is easy peasy - it was an American helicopter.

EC, oh still pondering the ramifications along with it being 'unveiled' on a date in the US to make people with a clue go 'whut?'

Fi, you know such secrets can not be revealed at this time.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 12:28 PM (vXdad)

157 Rubio punts on something he can do something about such as Amnesty, yet says he's going to draw the line on something he can't stop and is pretty much nothing more than a symbolic "Not Me!"

If Obamacare was on the edge, he'd be yanked over to Yes on Obamacare by "reasonable" Republicans who we all know and don't have to name

Posted by: kbdabear at August 06, 2013 12:28 PM (/9IC1)

158 He'll be intro'd by Rep. Meghan McCain.

She and Hank Johnson will form the House Committee on Island Instability.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 06, 2013 12:29 PM (B/VB5)

159

158 rrprj

 

"GOP" and "force" are two words that can never be used in the same sentence without rupturing the fabric of reality.

 

Correction:  If you insert the word "vomit" or "diarrhea", you can do it.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 06, 2013 12:29 PM (EGPJQ)

160 The housing market here is going to crash in a big way.

1) You can't get a fixed rate for more than 5 years.  30-year amort, but rate is locked for only 5.

2) A 2 bedroom bungalow is going for 600K+ in some areas. Crackerbox (raciss) condos are going for 400K+ not including maintenance feeds.  The "second bedroom" is often just a den with no walls, and no ability to install a door.  Or it's a glorified walk-in closet.

3) Banks are giving out loans for WAY more than people can afford, at rates that will eventually skyrocket after the 5 year fixed runs out and they need to re-up.

4) Flippers are a fucking disease here.  Most of them are real estate agents that collude with each other to outbid ordinary people to inflate the properties of the areas in which they live, then flip to someone with more money than brains.

Yeah, there are ethics rules, but when 50% of the eastern european immigrants run contracting businesses under the table, well, the eastern european immigrant real estate agents can claim they didn't have a stake in it, can't they?

Their experience in working within a corrupt system is serving them well.

Go by a Habitat For Humanity Re-Store in this area, and check out the brand. new. shit. ripped out of houses just because Mitzy thought the color of the newly installed granite was just one shade too dark.

But talk to any real estate agent, and you MUST remodel before you put it on the market.  Higher commission for them, higher overall area prices, inflation is king!

So what if fewer people can buy starters and the decent areas are reserved for the ultra wealthy who gut or tear down perfectly good homes, or the stupid who over mortgage. 

Let it burn, because it can do nothing but.

Posted by: grognard at August 06, 2013 12:30 PM (/29Nl)

161 The Rubiocon? That's where he runs as a conservative.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2013 12:30 PM (E7Zh9)

162 Invicible class warships in the RN were officially called 'thru-deck' cruisers when laid down.  Completely omitted any reference to Sea Harriers or even helicopters. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 12:31 PM (vXdad)

163 People are short on patience.  Rubio has lost many people who trusted him.  He'll be lucky to get himself re elected.

Hope everyone is gearing up to support mace against miss lindsey.

Perhaps there should be better vetting of republican candidates by the conservatives.  Perhaps we should encourage beck to establish his vetting boot camp.  To insure that they won't be rubitized and christieized when they get into office.

Posted by: caustic at August 06, 2013 12:31 PM (/b8+5)

164 "Not that I agree but [Rubio] contends that he is still adamantly against illegal immigration and his plan does not reward illegals already here."

That nasty old piece of work Yasser Arafat used to give two speeches a day.

Speech #1 in the morning would be to the English-language media, in which Arafat would loudly proclaim the desire of the Palestinians for peace with Israel and their willingness to make all necessary and reasonable concessions to make that happen.

Speech #2 in the afternoon would be to the Arabic-language media, in which Arafat would say that they should disregard everything he had said that morning, and that the long range goal continued to be to push the Jews into the sea.

Rubio has been pulling the same shit.

Rubio will go on English-language television networks and say, "Of COURSE we're not talking about immediate amnesty and immediate benefits."

Then Rubio will go on Spanish-language TV and say, "Of COURSE you get immediate amnesty and immediate benefits."

A guy who lies to you repeatedly and brazenly, even if he's doing it bilingually, is still a brazen serial liar and you should have nothing to do with anything that he proposes.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 06, 2013 12:32 PM (gqT4g)

165 Never heard of Jehmu Greene... quick search returned: "Jehmu Greene is an evangelist for disenfranchised, vulnerable, and marginalized communities" In other words: Worthless Idiot aka, Community Organizer. See JEF.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 06, 2013 12:32 PM (E7Zh9)

166 Jehmu and Barak are retarded and their shit is all fucked-up.


And their names suck as well.


Posted by: dananjcon at August 06, 2013 12:32 PM (jvd3N)

167

150 How can Ocare work?

It's like a 747 with plywood wings. How can it work even if you try to make it work?

     

I thought is was like a Japanese aircraft carrier made out of steam.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 06, 2013 12:32 PM (EGPJQ)

168 oh still pondering the ramifications along with it being 'unveiled' on a date in the US to make people with a clue go 'whut?' 
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 04:28 PM (vXdad)



Huh, that symbolism didn't occur to me.  

/shrug

They're on their own if China tries anything, so best of luck to 'em.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at August 06, 2013 12:32 PM (v3pYe)

169 I see the usual "we have to support R because you know, R!"

You see, we have to forgive R every time because we have to get the Senate because once R has control, they might surprise the shit out of us and actually show some backbone and say fuck you to the MSM who calls them names even though they've caved or joined the Dems EVERY.... FUCKING .... TIME



Posted by: kbdabear at August 06, 2013 12:33 PM (/9IC1)

170 Every time someone mentions "social justice" they really mean "socialism".

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 06, 2013 04:27 PM (EGPJQ)

 

 

---------------------------------------------

 

 

"Socialism" is too nice a description.   Social justice is marxism, totalitarianism.  It also means "killing fields".

Posted by: Soona at August 06, 2013 12:33 PM (kQK8T)

171 "Social Justice" is an euphemism for theft.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 12:34 PM (vXdad)

172 150 It's like a 747 with plywood wings. How can it work even if you try to make it work?
Posted by: eleven at August 06, 2013 04:24 PM (KXm42)


Good analogy. If they do manage to get it off the ground, the inevitable crash will be that much more horrific and devastating.

Posted by: The Obamacare Crash-Test Dummy Generation at August 06, 2013 12:35 PM (/lWM8)

173 >> oh still pondering the ramifications along with it being 'unveiled' on a date in the US to make people with a clue go 'whut?' I'm still pondering the symbolism of Japan announcing that dangerous levels of radioactive water are leaking from the their failed nuke plants today. August 6th, Japan and nuclear don't go well together.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 06, 2013 12:36 PM (g1DWB)

174 Posted by: torquewrench at August 06, 2013 04:26 PM (gqT4g)

Um, NO. You're wrong.

The only thing that would stand in the way of US Naval Power controlling the Asian seas would be an inept/feckless/traitorous President.

Say like the one we have now.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 06, 2013 12:37 PM (28TG+)

175

But Obamacare exempts his favorite constituents so what does he care?

Fuck him

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 06, 2013 12:37 PM (R8hU8)

176 173 "Jehmu and Barak are retarded and their shit is all fucked-up."  Seriously - this sounds like the first line of a song on a really bad Rap album.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 06, 2013 12:37 PM (EGPJQ)

177
High Speed Rail - DRINK!
Infrastructure - DRINK!
Roads and Bridges - DRINK!
The Middle Class - DRINK!


I, me, my, mine - Stab Yourself in the Eyeball With a Spork!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 06, 2013 12:40 PM (qoQi/)

178

Posted by: grognard at August 06, 2013 04:30 PM (/29Nl)

 

-- Which state are you in?

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 06, 2013 12:42 PM (R8hU8)

179 JackStraw before getting scared by journalists who would not know that a rad is different from a REM.  Or what a Sievert is in relation to a becquerel

http://www.radprocalculator.com/RadProDownloads.aspx

This Reuters story has some hard numbers and types to crunch with the above calculator.
http://tinyurl.com/k8pr7c5

More than likely the reporter for Reuters refers to Strontium-90 which has a half life of 28 years and a vast majority present in the environment is residue left over from above ground nuclear bomb tests.

And when the EPA is not terribly concerned about Cesium-134, it worries about the radioactive Cesium-137 instead.
http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/cesium.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 06, 2013 01:00 PM (vXdad)

180 More than likely the reporter for Reuters refers to Strontium-90 which has a half life of 28 years and a vast majority present in the environment is residue left over from above ground nuclear bomb tests. I want to have a robot stand behind every media figure and smack 'em upside the head every time they say or imply that a longer half-life means something is more dangerous...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, fewer than 8 limbs at August 06, 2013 01:02 PM (zUi7I)

181 Fool me once shame on you.

Fool me twice shame on me.

Fool me three times . . . why yes I'm a Republican voter why do you ask?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 06, 2013 01:08 PM (28TG+)

182 Posted by: kbdabear at August 06, 2013 04:33 PM (/9IC1) Yeah, when the R's have caved to the D's every time the R's were in the minority, I'm sure they will find their principles if they ever get in the majority!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 06, 2013 01:09 PM (XdnQT)

183 Why do I do this?

Get to the thread, read a bit, think up a comment and  . .  the thread is dead.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 06, 2013 01:09 PM (28TG+)

184 Can we stop playing the MSM game of framing every issue in terms of the 2016 Presidential race? I want Obamacare defunded and that has nothing to do with not trusting Rubio for President. I think we can vote against implementing Obamacare and scrapping him as President. We have to take those things in the proper order though.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at August 06, 2013 01:11 PM (TbVAj)

185 Get to the thread, read a bit, think up a comment and . . the thread is dead.

There's your problem.

Posted by: pep at August 06, 2013 01:38 PM (6TB1Z)

186 (checking....) Still dead to me.

Posted by: NYC Parent at August 06, 2013 02:14 PM (HEo6y)

187

"BTW, this has started out a Bad Blogging Day"-Ace

Just a lurker, but your bad days are better than anyone else's best. This silent old reader appreciates your work.

Posted by: Bodnik at August 06, 2013 02:15 PM (nMsGS)

188 "Jehmu Green is a fucking idiot. Someone shove a pie in her smug, stupid face."

I.Hate.That.Stupid.B!tch.  She wants the same sh!t her parents ran away from in Liberia to be put in place under Obama. F.U.C.K. H.E.R!

Posted by: S&G at August 06, 2013 03:25 PM (61B4w)

189 With any luck he'll get primaried, loose and then be free to run for the presidency of some small unknown banana republic, where his kind of politicking is refreshingly welcome. Otherwise he can go pound sand because he's just a junior Sen McRino.

Posted by: Gmac - Pondering the coming implosion at August 06, 2013 03:59 PM (IanLz)

190 I'll never vote for Rubio. He's just a John Mcain, and we already know what THAT's about. We already have one, plus a Lyndsey Graham, we certainly don't need another one of these Democrats pretending to be Republicans.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at August 06, 2013 06:09 PM (2/oBD)

191 Don't worry, Marco.  I'm sure Chuck Schumer will totes forgive you for this at your next RINO caucus meeting.  Just keep fucking that Amnesty chicken, and you're guaranteed his protection until 2016.  Swearsies.

Posted by: Vercingetorix at August 06, 2013 06:53 PM (vwYj4)

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