1 Carter - isn't he dead, yet?

2 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

3 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

4 Carter a moment of lucidity?Amazing.

5 Carter - isn't he dead, yet? I THINK THE AUDITORS PUT HIM HERE JUST TO MESS WITH ME.

6 Jimmy Carter is an idiot, and like the blind squirrel, occasionally makes sense. Accidentally.

7 Too senile to remember how to be dishonest, I guess. Na. He just heard that only racists could support the jury verdict. And, well...

8 God bless you Purp....

and life looks vibrant in Mother Russia

9

Fuck. Carter.    Here's what he said.   From the article:

 

I think the jury made the right decision based on the evidence presented, because the prosecution inadvertently set the standard so high that the jury had to be convinced that it was a deliberate act by Zimmerman that he was not at all defending himself, and so forth,” Carter told Atlanta news channel WXIA. “It’s not a moral question, it’s a legal question and the American law requires that the jury listens to the evidence presented.”

 

In other words, "The prosecution was forced to provide the burden of proof that what Zimmerman did was a crime, and that's just wrong."

 

Really, Jimmeh?  REALLY? 

 

It's long past time    you were fertilizing your peanut plants, you senile buffoon.

10 For the record, alcoholism is appx 30 percent in   Russia

11 Ok, in this case I'm going to have to go with the fact that Carter actually is a racist.

12 Fuck that! I only watched seconds of the dash cam video, felt like I was going to lose my stomach.

13 I'm dragging this from the last thread......cause it's a serious question.
OK, actually three questions.


"So...on another tangent.
Who is it that would benefit most by repealing a law that allows one to offer deadly force when confronted by a robber in one's own home?

Who is it that would benefit most by a law that would require one to retreat to another room, lock the door, and allow a robber unfettered access to the remainder of one's property?

Why do liberals want to prevent single mothers, often of a minority ethnic group from protecting themselves?"

14 Is this the thread where the cobs resurrect the cornbrero?

15 Jimmy Carter was the Original Bill Clinton....

no really he was....I mean w/a 70s glow and all but he could pretend to be conservative.

16 Two members of the six woman jury were hot to convict Zimmerman of something, but eventually got talked out of it. So a third of the jury was crazier than Jimmy Carter.

17 Jimmah Carter is a racist who doesn't care if poor innocent choir boy (but not boy boy) black children are hunted down and murdered in the street? Who knew?

18 11 Vashta Narada,

or as we call it..."another day in Ohio"...

19 Yep, this is not Carter supporting the jury's decision. Remember folks, the link goes to Politico. Jimmy KKKarter basically said, "If those dumb prosecutors had just picked some other crime, they wouldn't have had to prove Zimmerman acted in self-defense," as though the evidentiary standard ("beyond reasonable doubt") could be waived if the Prosecution had "only" charged manslaughter or something. And it's especially ignorant, since manslaughter is a lesser included charge with Murder 2 in Florida.

20 Don't nobody mention "sombrero," but you can wave a Mexican flag. You know, to show unity with the voters we want.

21 Russian frieND drives Limo in NYC. he says in the 20 years hens been here, we have changed. it reminds him of Soviet Russia.

22 "Racist" generally means "white" in the same way that "anti-racist" means "anti-white". Validating the term is a bad idea.

23 That video encapsulates how I feel about life at the moment. Needs more raptors though.

24 21 Activist who doesn't offend Malor's Sensibilities,

Gabe and Amigo Grande! is part of what has me drifting Secessionist actually...

if America has no laws on national boundaries "why not?"

25 Russians do not fear death.

26 by the way I hate hate hate Swype and can't get it off my phone.

27 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 17, 2013 09:31 AM (fLpzA) Oh. I thought the questions were rhetorical, since the answers are obvious, but okay: 1) Criminals 2) Criminals 3) Because they're criminals. Alternate #3: Because they want you powerless. If you can defend yourself from criminals, that's something you don't need the State to do. Anything you don't need the State to do is a step toward Liberty, and so it must be abolished. They don't want Citizens, they want subjects.

28 Watching the Russian dash cam videos, RED2 is this weekend.  Lock S-Foils in attack position.

29 I am surprised Jimmuh couldn't mention how awful the USA is. He seems to fit that in now and again. Maybe he was distracted by something.

30 I can't watch the video, but does it include the footage of a random tank just cruising across the road?   Because seriously - only in Russia.

31 30 Allen G,

Watch the Michael Caine flick Harry Brown Allen...that is the future Donkey! wants for us...

32 by the way I hate hate hate Swype and can't get it off my phone. I love Swype. But it does sometimes make some odd guesses about what you're trying to type.

33 Are Russians worse at driving or at crossing the street? The question will not be answered in this video.

34 That video (burp) looks like an average commute over to the stadium for yours truly (burp).

Where's my Glenlivet

35 20 Yep, this is not Carter supporting the jury's decision. Remember folks, the link goes to Politico.

Jimmy KKKarter basically said, "If those dumb prosecutors had just picked some other crime, they wouldn't have had to prove Zimmerman acted in self-defense," as though the evidentiary standard ("beyond reasonable doubt") could be waived if the Prosecution had "only" charged manslaughter or something.

And it's especially ignorant, since manslaughter is a lesser included charge with Murder 2 in Florida.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 09:34 AM (/PCJa)

 

I was listening to some dumbass caller last night trying to claim that Zimmerman was criminally negligent for getting out of his truck with his gun because the 911 operator told him he didn't need to.  It took forever for the host to get to how the operators statement was not a legal order so he was not breaking any law by not listening to him.  Then the caller immediately switched to just talking about Zimmerman being negligent.

36 "It's not a moral question, it's a legal question and the American law requires that the jury listens to the evidence presented."

What the hell? That's crazy talk, that's what that is. Evidence is not feelings, damnit! What about the feelings?!

37 Watch the Michael Caine flick Harry Brown Allen...that is the future Donkey! wants for us... Never heard of it. But if I wanted to be that depressed, I'd watch Les Mis.

38 Russia has a major problem with drunks and DUI.  Which is why DUI there 2nd offense carries the death penalty.

39 Carter not really a shocker because he and his family have long record of racism including ties to Klan, so not surprising he doesn't find sympathy with cult of Tray-von.

40 Whoops! I just Cartered in my pants again.

41 Carter's reasoning is fucking ridiculous.  The prosecution set the standard too high?  WTF?

42 Russians do not fear death.

Posted by: Long Island at July 17, 2013 09:36 AM (hl8SI)

 

But they do fear big ass     insurance premiums.   Hence the dashcams.

43 The pedestrians seem amazingly bold...or maybe suicidal

44 Swype is schizo

45 Olbermann getting new late-night gig at ESPN, supposedly not allowed to talk politics. That's retarded, sir.

46 Are Russians worse at driving or at crossing the street? The question will not be answered in this video.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 17, 2013 09:38 AM (C6MOI)

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I watched a Russian with vacant eyes cause a ten car pileup, and not even notice, just continued to stumble down the middle of the road.

47 MWR how about a semi swerving frantically to avoid what is obviously a very drunk person staggering across the road...   from the locks of wild brunette hair and wearing a white coat  hey is that Jehar being radicalized?

48

Carter said what?

[Jaw hits the floor]

49 Oh, man. Allen, you definitely need to watch Harry Brown.

50 40 Allen G,

http://youtu.be/l9rmHPmnnKw

"You failed to maintain your weapon, son..."

51 For a second I thought that video was a trailer for GTA - Russia. 

52 I bought one of those dash cams. On ebay they are only $50 or so. Pretty cool, but I can't figure out how to get the night vision to work, AND you can not direct wire them. They all use a USB port and five volts which makes it hard to wire it to a 12 volt system.

53 Anyone remember years ago when some dude stole a tank in San Diego and was driving it down the freeway?

54 ....and my wife goes to Russia in October. I'm going to suggest she ride everywhere in an APC.

55 Posted by: buzzion at July 17, 2013 09:38 AM (LI48c) And this is why that "Zimmerman is guilty of bad judgment" nonsense must be opposed every time it is seen. If you truly believe that Z was "guilty of bad judgement" then he *was* criminally negligent. If you believe that, then he was taking a risk he should have known better than to take, and bad consequences from that choice accrue to him. It was not "bad judgement" to get out of the truck. It was not "negligence." It was simply A judgement, which (because of actions and events which no rational person could foresee) had tragic consequences.

56 52 Roger Ebert,

You're speechless...

heh and oddly roasting in hell

57 I'm still going with - if a dispatcher has the final say. What if your house is being robbed. You're in the loset on the phone with 911. He tells you to stay in the closet. You hear your baby being murdered by the robbers in the next room. You have a gun on you to stop the murder. What do you do? What DO you do, dumbasses.

58 I am offended, not one South of The Border sign in that Russian video!

59

No but it features some pretty nonchalant pedestrians in high-speed traffic areas. Obvious that at least one of them had a death wish.

 

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at July 17, 2013 09:39 AM (tWmgi)

 

They live in Russia.  Who WOULDN'T yearn for death?

 

MWR how about a semi swerving frantically to avoid what is obviously a very drunk person staggering across the road... from the locks of wild brunette hair and wearing a white coat hey is that Jehar being radicalized?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 17, 2013 09:39 AM (xywpL)

 

lol!

 

My favorite Russian dash cam footage is probably still the clip of a flatbed carrying a modular home, and the house just slides off the flatbed into the oncoming lane.  There were clearly no ropes or chains holding it in place.  It was just sitting there on the flatbed.  

60 53 Lauren,

Heh...it made me smile...

but I also think Grizzly Man is high comedy

61

Alternate #3: Because they want you powerless. If you can defend yourself from criminals, that's something you don't need the State to do. Anything you don't need the State to do is a step toward Liberty, and so it must be abolished. They don't want Citizens, they want subjects.

 

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 09:36 AM (/PCJa)

 

+1

62 I gotta tell you when I read that and agreed for the most part with Carter, I threw up in my mouth a little.  I am gonna go outside and wait for the flying pigs to do a flyby.....

63 Installing those dash-cams was a great idea. It is better to have the film than to have to ask people to just believe you that it happened like that.

64

Posted by: Purp at July 17, 2013 09:41 AM (ldSnY)

 

Oh yeah.  I'm sure a sequel will happen involving a MRAP.

65 Carter said what?
[Jaw hits the floor]

Posted by: Roger Ebert at July 17, 2013 09:39 AM (BuYeH)

 

 

Never.   Gets.   Old.

66 Charlie don't surf and Ivan don't drive.

67 Anyone remember years ago when some dude stole a tank in San Diego and was driving it down the freeway? Posted by: Purp at July 17, 2013 09:41 AM (ldSnY) Yep! Munched cars everywhere. Was that about the same time that those two guys robbed a bank or someplace and were armored up like crazy and there was a shootout like in Heat?

68 57 Purp,

Yup...

http://youtu.be/6TIun536HFo

69 Hey you, with the dashcam, you can't do that.

70 I am surprised Jimmuh couldn't mention how awful the USA is. He seems to fit that in now and again. Maybe he was distracted by something.

 

Posted by: Baldy at July 17, 2013 09:37 AM (tyDFN)

 

I'm surprised he didn't start yelling about those damn Joooos.  I mean, the guy's named Zimmerman, after all.  WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!

71 but I also think Grizzly Man is high comedy You mean it's not supposed to be?

72 7 Jimmy Carter is an idiot, and like the blind squirrel, occasionally makes sense. Accidentally. Carter is a dishonest dickhead. When he ran for GA governor, he ran as a segregationist. Maybe his ole race baiting has made him see the truth of the verdict.

73 I remember reading that back in the old Soviet Union days about 60% of the country's adult population was intoxicated by 2PM every day.  I guess not much has changed over there in 20 some years.

74 What the Tea Party Nation reports about Cheney-Enzi:

"Former Wyoming Senator and king of the sell-out Republicans Alan Simpson said a Cheney primary run against Enzi would be “the destruction of the Republican Party of Wyoming if she decides to run and he runs, too.”  Simpson also said, “ItÂ’s a disaster — a divisive, ugly situation — and all it does is open the door for the Democrats for 20 years.”

The Establishment whined that Enzi had done nothing to be turned out.
   
Really?

The Constitution provides Senators with six-year terms, not terms for life or until they do something worthy of being “put out.”

The fact that the Establishment is circling the wagons to support Enzi and that he is now getting fawning stories about him in the New York Times is reason enough that conservatives should primary him."

==========
Yup.

Clear enough. I don't need to know anything about Enzi. But I know enough about those jumping to his defense to know he needs to go.
(That's Alan Simpson of Simpson-Bowles--useful idiot willingly lending his "Republican" name to provide cover for the JEF . . . to do nothing.)

75 My favorite "tank".story was the guy who modded up his bulldozer and starting leveling buildings in his town.

76 Carter's reasoning is fucking ridiculous. The prosecution set the standard too high? WTF?

Posted by: CDR M at July 17, 2013 09:39 AM (y67bA)

 

 

I know right?      I mean, that whole "The burden of proof is on the prosecution" thing is just so CRAZY.  CLEARLY the defendant should be forced to prove his or her innocence, not vice versa.   Because we're all guilty until proven innocent, right, Jimmeh?

77 Moral of the story? Don't. Drive. In. Russia. Pshew.

78 76 Allen G,

my psychologist explained to me that I am supposed to (in theory) be empathetic to Treadwell's plight...

I challenged him to watch it with the mindset that if you french kiss a cobra often enough it is not a cry for help it is a cry for nature to take its course.

79 There's a saying in Russia:  "It's 10 am somewhere."

80 82 The Obsidian Owl,

Well more often Taco flavored Fritos....

wait is that racist?

81 Cuties in a different kind of tank
http://youtu.be/5OULlWNCqDQ

82 I was hanging out at some outdoor bars outside the Kremlin back in July of '02 and saw an incredible number of "youths" just absolutely hammered by noon.  Well, we figured we may as well join them.  Had a good time.  Pro tip:  Don't try to enter the Kremlin when drunk.  The guards aren't too friendly.

83 So Russians drive too fast and don't secure their equipment very well. And Jimmy Carter has been right once today.

84 Is Carter still involved with Habitat for Hamas?

85 Carter was for Zimmerman as soon as he found out he wasn't a Jew after all.

86 I was listening to some dumbass caller last night trying to claim that Zimmerman was criminally negligent for getting out of his truck with his gun because the 911 operator told him he didn't need to. It took forever for the host to get to how the operators statement was not a legal order so he was not breaking any law by not listening to him. Then the caller immediately switched to just talking about Zimmerman being negligent. Posted by: buzzion at July 17, 2013 09:38 AM (LI48c) And the non-emergency operator did NOT tell him not to get out of his car. The operator asked if he was following Trayvon. Zimmerman said yes (he was on foot when that question was asked.). The operator said, 'We don't need you to do that.'. He said absolutely nothing about Z 'getting out of his car.'

87 Watch the Michael Caine flick Harry Brown Allen...that is the future Donkey! wants for us...

Never heard of it. But if I wanted to be that depressed, I'd watch Les Mis. Posted by: AllenG
-------------------

If you've never read The Fixer, by Malamud, I would suggest that.

88 A text message went out last night saying "let's do something for trayvon" So 40 "yoots" ran down Hwd Blvd. assaulting, robbing, and looting. Apparently, it was serious. Yesterday, the Chief of Police (they're all hardcore donk pols these days) gave some statement that enough is enough and they were going to get tough on the violent protesters. Everyone knew he was full of shit. They are afraid of mobs. The city gets sued, the residents never back them up, and god forbid if a MSM gets injured because they always insert themselves in the middle of shit.

89

The other jurors except for 37  apparently feel the same way as Jimmy Carter.  They basically say that they believe Zimmerman to be culpable but they had to follow the law which required them to find him not guilty. 

 

I hope everyone that supports Trayvon  experiences a crime against them perpetrated by a Trayvon clone.   Its the only way they will learn.  

90 11 For the record, alcoholism is appx 30 percent in Russia Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 17, 2013 09:31 AM (AKAOY) You say that likes it's a bad thing?

91

but I also think Grizzly Man is high comedy


Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 09:42 AM (LRFds)

 

 

I have not allowed myself to watch "Into the Wild"    because I would spend the whole damn movie laughing my ass off.  It's like if they ever make a movie    from the play    about that idiot Rachel Corrie, I would watch it and spend the whole movie in hysterics.  

 

Hmm... Actually, maybe I'll treat   myself to an "Into the Wild" viewing this weekend.  I could use a laugh.

92

>>>Jimmy Carter was the Original Bill Clinton....

 

"I did not. have sex. with that woman. Monica Lewinsky. In my heart"

93

RoyalOil at July 17, 2013 09:44 AM (VjL9S)

 

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Enzi is OK as far as record goes, but he's a back-bencher.  He doesn't get involved in advancing the conservative agenda.  Liz Cheney is a much better leader, and that's exactly what the GOP needs.

94

There's a saying in Russia: "It's 10 am somewhere."

 

New.  Keyboard.  And.  Monitor.

95 Russians do not fear death.

Posted by: Long Island at July 17, 2013 09:36 AM (hl8SI)

 

Nor do the wind and the sun and the rain.

96 When the older defense attorney was asked his opinion of the judge, and he declined, stating that he'd like to keep his bar license for a few more years. That said more about the state of the Union than anything else. Prosecutors can still all an American citizen guilty on nationwide TV. But if you so much as insult a judge, your fucking done for.

97 Anyone remember years ago when some dude stole a tank in San Diego and was driving it down the freeway?
Posted by: Purp at July 17, 2013 09:41 AM (ldSnY)


LOL, when my little brother was stationed at Warner Robbins AFB some goofball stole a deuce and a half and drove it off base and tried to sell it to a junk yard.


I imagine he is still doing time in Leavenworth. .

98 The Alveda King story in the sidebar is from March of 2012. Kind of outdated now, eh?

99 >>Moral of the story? Don't. Drive. In. Russia. Pshew.

Or walk across the street when there are any cars on the road. Geez, those were some close calls!

100

There's a saying in Russia: "It's 10 am somewhere."

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 17, 2013 09:46 AM (AKAOY)

 

 

And given how big Russia is, it's a good bet that  the somewhere in question is another part of Russia.

101 And the attack on individual sovereignty continues.

Under Obama/Holder, they want you to snitch to the government on those who oppose their politics, but they want you to not empower Neighborhood Watch with those who actually protect their neighbors or empower individuals who would protect themselves with a gun.

Unless you serve the State - and the Progressive State alone - you are not to make decisions or choices. Infantilism and slavery is to be your existence.

102

Tami at July 17, 2013 09:48 AM (X6akg)

 

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I had someone pull that "police told Z not to get out of the car" thing with me.

 

I said "so if the police *didn't* tell Z not to get out of the car, you'd understand his actions  and wouldn't think he was criminally negligent?"

 

She said "that's right."

 

I said "Good, because not only did the police never tell Zimmerman to stay in the car, he was on the phone with 911 dispatch which is not the police anyway."

 

Her:  "uhhhhh"

103 Killdozer: http://www.damninteresting.com/the-wrath-of-the-killdozer/

104

Russians do not fear death.

Posted by: Long Island at July 17, 2013 09:36 AM (hl8SI)

 

Nor do the wind and the sun and the rain.

 

Posted by: somebody else, not me at July 17, 2013 09:49 AM (29vnO)

 

 

We can be like they are.  Come on, baby.  Don't fear the Reaper.

105 99 MWR,

Heh I've only indulged in watching parts of "into the wild"....

b/c I'd probably lose six pounds from laughter as you say....

one nice thing about the tundra is it doesn't suffer fools for long.

106 One reason Russians have dash cams is because of all the scams. People walk in front of you trying to get hit and collect money. Sort of like LA.

107 Facts and timelines are hard. They are. Half the furor over this case is over contrived scenarios and outright errors over the facts.

108 No but it features some pretty nonchalant pedestrians in high-speed traffic areas. Obvious that at least one of them had a death wish. Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at July 17, 2013 09:39 AM (tWmgi) Well, part of the reason for the ubiquity of dash cams in Russia is due to the insurance scams. People will walk right into traffic and then claim you swerved into them. Not to mention the police are more than happy to supplement their income by blaming you for the crash and expecting a little something something to get out of it. Thus, dash cams. I'm still trying to figure out from where fell the minivan that starts the clip. It's also fun to watch a clip and try to figure out just who is going to do what insanely stupid thing. I would be interested to see the footage that would come from ubiquitous dash cams in the US. I've read police reports and then had to haul out toy cars to try to figure out just what the hell happened.

109 Russian Winter Traction reset snow tires

110 Unless you serve the State - and the Progressive State alone - you are not to make decisions or choices. Infantilism and slavery is to be your existence. Exactly. They want subjects, not citizens. One thing separates a citizen from a subject. That "one thing" is not voting. It is the ability to carry a weapon legally. That's it. The only one. An armed citizenry can, when it comes down to it, always overthrow their government. A disarmed citizenry is forced to cower in fear.

111 is this the thread that gets stomped by the headlines dump in a few minutes? It is Purp's.

112 113 MWR,

"it takes a brave man to be a coward in MY nation..."

//Stalin

the secret is you create a shithole game of Milgram's Joy Buzzer coupled with Telephone...

bonus points for dark humor if you make the most terrifying place in your nation the dog kennels of a former finishing school

113

80 My favorite "tank".story was the guy who modded up his bulldozer and starting leveling buildings in his town.

 

This song predates the story.

If I had a bulldozer.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS1KluO1aIo

114 Tami: "He said absolutely nothing about Z 'getting out of his car.'"

There you go spouting facts again. I just don't think you quite understand the new American Experience.

115 If I had a bulldozer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS1KluO1aIo

Posted by: buzzion at July 17, 2013 09:55 AM (LI48c)

 

That's not funny.

116

Unless you serve the State - and the Progressive State alone - you are not to make decisions or choices. Infantilism and slavery is to be your existence.

-

I have been a conservative since childhood.  How do I know?  Because even at a tender age, I   refused to allow any 'expert' to tell me how I must think.

117 OT, but I find it cute that our AG Stedman thinks "self-defense" is merely a concept.    That just warms the cockles of my ickle heart.

118 Last night, saw a Russian guy here in Toronto walking around with a t-shirt that said: Vladimir Putin, The King of Russia.

And Putin's picture was him looking over the top of his sunglasses, smirking.

119 The "other" good judgement from Carter, aside from his Camp David Peace Accord (treaty about to expire?)

120 The GOP *does* have a policy problem. 

It got us into unpopular and costly wars against Iraq and Afghanistan without a single lawmaker saying, "yeah (as in "yay", not "yeh"), I vote to send this country's citizens to *war*" -- why is it that if it's such a goddamned moral and legal thing to (the mealy-mouthed "well you liberal tool, Congress authorized it" -- boy howdy that's conservative response), you couldn't get a majority of Republicans (being a majority of Congress) to make an affirmative vote for something that included the word *war*, as in "we declare war on..."?  Talk about pusillanimous.  Oh, and what did we sacrifice to pay for these wars?  Nadda.  I'm not saying we needed tax increases, but stuff ain't free.  Oh, and this idea of winning Muslim hearts and minds?

When the dot.com bubble crashed, did the president and Congress tell Greenspan to chill out instead of tanking interest rates, thereby creating the housing bubble?  Nope.  Did that president and Congress then take on the beast they were feeding and at least fix the forced lending to unqualified lenders part?  Nope.

Thanks for all the spending boys.  Talk about a feckless GOP Congress from 2000-2006.  You basically killed any concept in the general public that conservative (small c) economics works -- you know, the stuff that Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell rightly preach, and explain, every day -- by being Dem lite but labeling yourselves Repub.

Why the hell should voters care about the personal pecadillos of Dem politicians when the lilly-pure Republicans have (it is perceived) run this country into the ground?

121 Suppose They Gave A War and Nobody Came?
http://youtu.be/33p3QW-A7d0

122

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 17, 2013 09:49 AM (4df7R)

 

Into the Wild was  just a kid trying to find himself  up until the last 30 minutes.  That is when  you  really see his mental instability.    I found Grizzly Man more a tragic comedy but Into the Wild left me with an  odd offsetting feeling .   Not empathetic at all,  just a feeling of  emptiness.  

123 Has anyone else noticed that the head ewok has decided to run the blog on a time line? Yesterday he posted every hour on the hour. I expect the news dump at 10? New sheriff in town?

124 36 Are Russians worse at driving or at crossing the street? The question will not be answered in this video.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 17, 2013 09:38 AM (C6MOI)

They do seem to be pretty insouciant about the whole pedestrian thing. "Cross the street in the middle of fast oncoming traffic? Sure, why not." And then they shuffle across like an old grandmother, causing the drivers to brake hard on icy roads.

125 After the ordeal GZ just went through I think a concealable, "wearable" video camera would be a big seller for CCL holders.  That's sad, but I think it is equally true.

126
If you truly believe that Z was "guilty of bad judgement" then he *was* criminally negligent.
============
Duty, breach of that duty, causation and damages---those are the four elements REQUIRED for every negligence claim.

Anyone of these legal eagle fucksticks want to point out the legal duty--LEGAL DUTY--Zimmerman owed to Martin?

What legal duty toward Martin was breached?

Show me the case law in ANY state in the nation, let alone FL, where Zimmerman owed Martin the legal duty to (1) stay in his truck, (2) not follow him or (3) whatever other bull shit lie of a law you think he broke.

Here's how I know you can't: Because the prosecution that would reach so far as to charge Zimmerman with felony child abuse damned sure would have charged him with criminal negligence.

127 And then they shuffle across like an old grandmother, causing the drivers to brake hard on icy roads. Or a drunk. I'll take drunk for $1000 Alex.

128
I would be interested to see the footage that would come from ubiquitous dash cams in the US. I've read police reports and then had to haul out toy cars to try to figure out just what the hell happened.

Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 17, 2013 09:53 AM (VtjlW)

 

That's probably coming slowly.  I had the radio on Sunday and the host Kim Kommando was advertising a dash cam.

129 Lot of attractive Russian women out there, from hot, blonde model types to the nerdy-cute slavic types.  Wonder how they feel about all the men getting wasted so much.

130 97 The other jurors except for 37 apparently feel the same way as Jimmy Carter. They basically say that they believe Zimmerman to be culpable but they had to follow the law which required them to find him not guilty. I hope everyone that supports Trayvon experiences a crime against them perpetrated by a Trayvon clone. Its the only way they will learn. Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2013 09:49 AM (m2CN7) I don't feel that he is culpable at all. And a large number of Trayvon supporters got a rude awakening if they were the victim of the wildening that occurred last night in Hollywood.

131 In Russia the favored way to get rich quick is to walk in front of oncoming traffic and then sue. If the driver doesn't have a dashcam you'll usually win big from their insurance. That's why the pedestrians always are acting weirdly in these videos.

132 I have not allowed myself to watch "Into the Wild" because I would spend the whole damn movie laughing my ass off. It's like if they ever make a movie from the play about that idiot Rachel Corrie, I would watch it and spend the whole movie in hysterics. Hmm... Actually, maybe I'll treat myself to an "Into the Wild" viewing this weekend. I could use a laugh. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 17, 2013 09:49 AM (4df7R) I really like Into the Wild but then again I really like Emile Hirsch so there's that. The thing of it is that the movie is fairly clear that doing what McCandless did is incredibly stupid and that he was always going to die from it. There's no real explanation given as to why someone who absolutely should have known better did what he did which is, after all, why the story is interesting in the first place. I haven't read the book but from what others have said the book is all he wanted to commune with the grand glory of nature and isn't that awesome. The movie is more he wanted to commune with the grand glory of nature that is so totes going to kill you wtf is wrong with you.

133 131 Polynikes,

Into the wild was a rich man's Trayvon Martin actually...

shit parenting, a sub culture set to detonate idiots and a guy thinking there is always a reset button....

I'm not happy the guy died, but if anyone didn't see it coming....

I've lived in the Polar North, the Polar winds can kill you in 15 minutes...

134 Yesterday he posted every hour on the hour.

When you got something pending in draft, it automatically gets the time stamp when it was created.  To unleash it, you gotta update the time stamp to current or it'll wind up way down on the main page. 

Its easier to just smack in a new time stamp like 11:00:00 than to look at a clock and put in the exact time.

135 So that's how this blog travels through time, Purp.

136 36, 133. And then they shuffle across like an old grandmother, causing the drivers to brake hard on icy roads. -- How rude, shuffling across icy roads like an old grandmother. As for "jay walking" trouble, no kidding. But then, you've got to wonder how much more icy the sidewalks are than the blacktop streets; and whether there's a stop light at the nearest corner. Danger: Life in Russia.

137 I could watch Maria Molina talk about warm fronts all day. That is all.

138 Lot of attractive Russian women out there, from hot, blonde model types to the nerdy-cute slavic types. Wonder how they feel about all the men getting wasted so much.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 17, 2013 10:01 AM (c/ao

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Interesting demographic:  The life expectancy for a Russian woman is around 74, while for men is just over 50.  Maybe all of the single Chinese men (due to the one child policy) can get a Russian Cougar as a consolation prize.

139 anyone else catch this part of Holder's remarks at the NAACP? "Separate and apart from the case that has drawn the nation's attention, it's time to question laws that senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods." http://tinyurl.com/nv4ra89 so basically, bullies who break the law should get the upper hand, no matter what

140 A couple of observations about the Zimmerman aftermath:

1) Point of fact: GZ was talking to the Sanford PD Non-Emergency operator, not 911.

2) Judgement?  What about MARTIN'S judgement?  He decided to assault an armed man.  If he hadn't done that he would still be alive today.

141 138 Lot of attractive Russian women out there, from hot, blonde model types to the nerdy-cute slavic types. Wonder how they feel about all the men getting wasted so much. Posted by: SFGoth at July 17, 2013 10:01 AM (c/ao Anastasiadate.com

142 Russians drive like, well Russians

143

Posted by: Purp at July 17, 2013 10:03 AM (ldSnY)

 

But what about making flux capicator adjustments?

144 Dear Michael Bay, I would prefer to watch Russian dash cam footage than another of your movies.

145 The Russians probably learned from the Italians...

146

Re: the dashcam video - that is why I live in Texas.

Carter?  You mean that man formerly known as the worst president evah?  Damn, see what happens when your reputation goes into the ashcan.

147

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 10:02 AM (LRFds)

 

He didn't have shit parenting.  The guy had mental problems.   His siblings turned out fine. 

148 Posted by: alexthechick - Commence drinking now. at July 17, 2013 10:02 AM (VtjlW) I haven't read Into the Wild, but let me just say: the best "survival against nature itself" book I've ever read is Hatchet. The best "Oh, I want to commune with nature" book I've ever read is My Side of the Mountain. I will point out that these are actually both pretty good "Conservative" reads- they talk about self reliance, problem solving, self-respect, and taking responsibility for one's self and one's actions.

149

I saw that La Raza has thrown Zimmerman under the bus.  Have ANY hispanic groups come out in support of Zimmerman?

150 i don't think russians should have cars......jeez they are insane

151 Was that Carter driving those trucks?

152 Dear Michael Bay, I would prefer to watch Russian dash cam footage than another of your movies. That's just mean.

153 Well, I gotta make a run to the Palm Beach county courthouse to get some idiotic forms...

That'll probably take all freaking day.

154 Fuck. Carter. Here's what he said. From the article: I think the jury made the right decision based on the evidence presented, because the prosecution inadvertently set the standard so high Winner winner chicken dinner!

155 142. I've lived in the Polar North, the Polar winds can kill you in 15 minutes... Posted by: sven10077 You're someone who can say, 'Been there, done survived that.' Well, leave it to Congress to decide to sponsor/pass a bill to prevent freezing to death. /this morning's Drudge headline included a Congresswoman sponsoring a bill against military sexual assault. Like another law will stop all [sex] crimes.

156 I hope everyone that supports Trayvon experiences a crime against them perpetrated by a Trayvon clone. Its the only way they will learn.
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Unfortunately, many of them actually have--and yet, they persist in glorifying the thug culture.

Remember the saying about the "liberal mugged by reality?"

So do the Dems. And their number one goal over the last 30 years was to make sure those so mugged blamed Republicans.

157 Purp, bring Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Repair with you.

AllenG, there is much pravda in my comment.

158 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 17, 2013 09:43 AM (zF6Iw) ----- A fair amount of people probably still think he is Jewish.

159 153 Dear Michael Bay, I would prefer to watch Russian dash cam footage than another of your movies.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 17, 2013 10:07 AM (xywpL)

 

 

heh, so true.  I must say, the fight sequences in Pacific Rim were done quite well.  Michael Bay should copy it.  I'm sure he won't and Transformers 4 will be a herky, jerky mess with only the slight bonus that Shia won't be in it.

160 Even a stopped clock...

161 I saw that La Raza has thrown Zimmerman under the bus. Have ANY hispanic groups come out in support of Zimmerman? No. See, La Raza needs the Democrat party right now more than the Democrat Party needs La Raza (what with Amnesty votes coming up and all), so La Raza will sit by and declare Zimmerman "not hispanic" in order to stay on their masters' good side.

162 > After the ordeal GZ just went through I think a concealable, "wearable" video camera would be a big seller for CCL holders. That's sad, but I think it is equally true. Google Glass would have settled the whole Zimmerman/Martin thing one way or the other pretty quick for sure.

163

Holder Speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' Laws

NBC News: http://tiny.cc/bodd0w

 

Attorney General Eric Holder took aim Tuesday at "Stand Your Ground"-style laws — such as the one that figured into the George Zimmerman case — saying they may encourage violence and "undermine public safety."

 

"It's time to question laws that senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods," Holder said in a speech to the NAACP in which he again called the death of Trayvon Martin “unnecessary.”

 

"These laws try to fix something that was never broken,” he said.

 

"There has always been a legal defense for using deadly force if — and the 'if' is important — if no safe retreat is available.  But we must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat, outside their home, if they can do so safely.

 

"By allowing — and perhaps encouraging — violent situations to escalate in public — such laws undermine public safety.  The list of resulting tragedies is long and, unfortunately, has victimized too many who are innocent..."

 

 

And there's more at the link, but if I post anymore of this suppurating pustule's remarks I'm going to blow a fucking gasket.

164 Dear Michael Bay, I would prefer to watch Russian dash cam footage than another of your movies.

That's just mean.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 10:09 AM (/PCJa)

 

I would agree that is mean except I saw his latest,  Pain and Gain.   What a crapfest of a movie. 

165 I think the jury made the right decision based on the evidence presented, because the prosecution inadvertently set the standard so high Winner winner chicken dinner! Posted by: rickb223 ...Poor Jimmah. Nothing to show, after all.

166 I saw that La Raza has thrown Zimmerman under the bus. Have ANY hispanic groups come out in support of Zimmerman?

Posted by: CDR M at July 17, 2013 10:08 AM (cqZXM)

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Perhaps they should change their name   to La Partido

167 /this morning's Drudge headline included a Congresswoman sponsoring a bill against military sexual assault. Like another law will stop all [sex] crimes.

Posted by: panzernashorn at July 17, 2013 10:10 AM (MhA4j)

 

Um, hello?  It's already covered lady.

168 The GOP is a policy problem. It is institutionally committed to mass immigration, endless wars and squandering. And it would rather purge the right than win.

169 LOL, I'd never join a Russian-woman dating service.  Any attractive Russian woman that would have me, just wants a meal ticket -- or, at least, that's what my gut tells me.

170 Purp

Can you try waking up a little earlier to post?  As you can see from some of the ill feeling that is spilling over into this thread from the last one, Gabe seems to persist in pouring salt into open wounds and the longer his thread stays at the top the worse it gets.

171 Posted by: CDR M at July 17, 2013 10:10 AM (y67bA) I thought they kicked Bay off of Transformers 4. I thought they were kind of rebooting (that is: assuming #1 had happened, but not 2 or 3), what with all the bad guys being dead-dead after Dark Side of the Moon.

172 9 God bless you Purp....
and life looks vibrant in Mother Russia
Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at July 17, 2013 09:31 AM (LRFds)

Yikes!!!

173 Perhaps they should change their name to La Partido

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 17, 2013 10:12 AM (AKAOY)

 

Someone needs to update their Wiki page.  Peru is on their list of supported country people types.  In light of this, that needs a strikethru.

174 SFGoth, might get Nicole Kidman
http://youtu.be/BrpBWuUCxPo

175 By the way, the van rolling towards the camera in the beginning of the clip is fake. Comes from an IPhone app called Action Movie. Has a bunch of cool things like missile strikes and falling debris to make your own little clips. My nephew an I had great fun with it.

176 2) Judgement? What about MARTIN'S judgement? He decided to assault an armed man. If he hadn't done that he would still be alive today.
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Can't be said enough--Martin was less than 100 yards from home. Zimmerman was not blocking his path in any fucking way--hell, he'd lost him and didn't even know where he was.

For four minutes Martin had time to decide--to go 100 yards to safety and call the cops, or confront the "crazy ass cracker."

Martin is dead today because he was a racist.

177 Have ANY hispanic groups come out in support of Zimmerman? Posted by: CDR M at July 17, 2013 10:08 AM (cqZXM) Only the white hispanic groups that were originally thought to be jewish

178

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 10:12 AM (/PCJa)

 

Nope it is Bay again and movies 1-3 have still occurred.  Not a reboot.

179 ALL OVER this topic on Common Cents...

http://www.commoncts.blogspot.com

180

"I haven't read Into the Wild, but let me just say: the best "survival against nature itself" book I've ever read is Hatchet."

I don't think Into the Wild was intended to be a 'survival against nature' book.  It was just a documentation of a lost soul because of a mental defect.   At least that's the way I read it.  

181 Attorney General Eric Holder took aim Tuesday at "Stand Your Ground"-style laws — such as the one that figured into the George Zimmerman case — saying they may encourage violence and "undermine public safety." "Public safety" defined as getting your head beating into the concrete by a thug like Trayvon Martin.

182

153 Dear Michael Bay, I would prefer to watch Russian dash cam footage than another of your movies.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 17, 2013 10:07 AM (xywpL)

 

Anna - and frankly, all you creepy-ass crackas - should read Showgirls,  Teen Wolves and Astro Zombies:  A Film Critic's Year-Long Quest to Find the Worst Movie Ever Made by Michael Adams.  It is funny as hell, and it sends you to YouTube a lot just to check out some of the insanity he views; for example, once you've seen Black Devil Doll From Hell  or  Tales From The Quadead Zone, your brain will be forever warped.

183

I just can't get over this.

 

But we must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat, outside their home, if they can do so safely

 

 

Since WHEN is that a     "common sense and age-old requirement?"  

184 173. I saw part of that Holder speech on PBS news. It looked/sounded like he was lip syncing a pre-recorded message. Won't be long before our authoritarians in Washington, needing to inject some public confidence their way, will rename the Ministry of Truth according to the ordained Black Liberation Theology in office. Who can argue against the "truth"? Old school /Troother v. Troothah

185 MPPPP you mean my brain isn't warped and full of useless stuff as is?  Oh geez, can I take a rain check on that?

186 "It's time to question laws that senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods," Holder said in a speech to the NAACP in which he again called the death of Trayvon Martin “unnecessary.” O_o o_O O_O o_o *_* I would like to remind the little racing-stripe that Self Defense is not a "Concept" which can be either expanded or limited by the State. What the Chinless-wonder, whose IQ, by the way, must be somewhere south of that of a retarded sea cucumber, apparently forgets is that Life (and therefore the defense of Life) is one of the Natural Rights of Man- not something granted or withheld by Government. I would further like to state that Eric Holder is not worthy to clean my children's toilet with his tongue, and would request he kindly go sodomize himself with a rusty chainsaw. That is all.

187 156 Polynikes,

He had shit parenting...

never telling your mentally ill bright child "no" is shit parenting.

They also from what I've gathered reached the point around the age of 10 where bitching at each other trumped you know telling your strong willed hyperidealist son "no"...

Kid ran cross country "to fight darkness"...trust me I get where he's coming from on that point I did the same...my kick was Keynes is a Kocksucker...

point is "good parenting" involves knowing and when possible intervening in your kids' development.

Are they the #1 causative? 

No, but they probably were the only chance that kid had not to have an unhappy ending.

He was an idiot, and in truth he never even went that hard into the Taiga like area of AK he was maybe 10-15 minutes from civilized living.

It's be like my deciding the rest stop at mile marker 64 on I-65 was "home."

He was physically hardy, and had an IQ over 110 and thought he would learn hard rules of nature by Osmosis.

I was taught you respect the fuck out of shit that can kill you by men who loved me enough to hit me upside the head if I was out of control.

188

The thing of it is that the movie is fairly clear that doing what McCandless did is incredibly stupid and that he was always going to die from it. There's no real explanation given as to why someone who absolutely should have known better did what he did which is, after all, why the story is interesting in the first place.

 

----------------------

 

Because he  was a liberal idiot who thought  that "Call of the Wild", "Education of a Wandering Man"  and "Walden" are  survival manuals.  They're not.  They talk about how the author FELT living out in the wild.  He  knew fuck-all about survival, including nutrition and more importantly, land navigation.

 

Fucking dummy.  I like the outdoors  and solitude as well,  but I research the area I'm going to be in thoroughly  before I go, have no less than three separate means of  the following:  navigation, water  collection and purification,  and fire starting.  Also rescue signalling.

 

Also,  I leave a map of the area I'm going to be in, my best guess as to the route I'll be using, and the areas I'm trying to get to, as well as a timeline for when to hear from me.  If  the missus doesn't hear from me  by then, get the fucking chopper  in the air.

 

Fucking.  Dummy.

189 194 173. I saw part of that Holder speech on PBS news. It looked/sounded like he was lip syncing a pre-recorded message.

Posted by: panzernashorn at July 17, 2013 10:16 AM (MhA4j)     You call that lip syncing??

190 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 17, 2013 10:11 AM (4df7R) Had to do a double take while eating dinner. Did he REALLY just say that self-defense is a bad thing. Yep, yep he did. WTF.

191 "Separate and apart from the case that has drawn the nation's attention, it's time to question laws that senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods."

Gotcha. Defending yourself sows conflict.
Above and beyond Obama's goal of disarming the nation to turn us into subjects, the short-term actions are despicable: they are purposely whipping up angry race-based mobs while doing everything they can to ensure that the people attacked by these mobs can't defend themselves - or are at least be fearful that they risk the full force of the DOJ if they actually do defend themselves.

192 "There has always been a legal defense for using deadly force if � and the 'if' is important � if no safe retreat is available. But we must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat, outside their home, if they can do so safely. Fuck you Eric Holder. There has NEVER been an age-old "duty" to retreat, except in pussy blue states. You want to talk age old? How about "I'm calling YOU out"? High noon on main street. 20 paces. THAT'S age old.

193

O_o

o_O

O_O

o_o

*_*

 

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

 

I would like to remind the little racing-stripe that Self Defense is not a "Concept" which can be either expanded or limited by the State. What the Chinless-wonder, whose IQ, by the way, must be somewhere south of that of a retarded sea cucumber, apparently forgets is that Life (and therefore the defense of Life) is one of the Natural Rights of Man- not something granted or withheld by Government.

 

I would further like to state that Eric Holder is not worthy to clean my children's toilet with his tongue, and would request he kindly go sodomize himself with a rusty chainsaw.

 

*dramatic swoon*   Lawks!      Someone be a dear and fetch me   my fainting couch.

194 164 PanzerNashhorn,

Heh...of course I am built for and understood "cold"...El Paso damn near killed me because I did not respect the desert properly.

and "just one more law" used to be a pet trope of mine.

195 Recycling 76 items (7.86mb) 1 hour remaining. Go F yourself. ow goody. done.

196 It is not surprising that La Raza does not support Zimmerman.  They are of Mexican extraction and hate the US.  Zimmerman is of Cuban extraction and has been assimilated. La Raza and Cubans generally do not get along.

197 Posted by: CDR M at July 17, 2013 10:14 AM (y67bA) Oh. Crap. So who can they use for a bad guy? Are they going to use the weird world-eater thingy from from the Transformers movie (cartoon, 80s), and turn Zombie Megatron into 'Negatron?' The only dude they had left (from canon) was Shockwave, and they killed him in #3.

198 In the Elsenborn region of Belgium, there are regular highway-department "Tank Crossing" signs, with the international ideogram and everything. Those of you whose youth was wasted around Kaiserslautern may have seen something similar.

Sadly, last time I drove past Fort Knox there weren't any.

Much is made, and rightly so, of the intrepidity and grit of the Red Ball Express drivers. But the lovely couple who run the Remember Museum outside Battice know of one guy who just couldn't take no more, and black-marketed his deuce and its contents for two bottles of local Belgian brandy.

You could try to go all racialist on that, but I think I know how he felt at the time.
And I reckon his Statement of Charges would have expired around 1995. 

199 I don't think Into the Wild was intended to be a 'survival against nature' book. It was just a documentation of a lost soul because of a mental defect. At least that's the way I read it. Posted by: polynikes at July 17, 2013 10:15 AM (m2CN7) Yeah, that was my take on the movie as well. There is no rational explanation for why he did what he did. He was lost, for whatever reason, and thought he was going to find himself and made stupid, stupid, life ending choices.

200

>>>Any attractive Russian woman that would have me, just wants a meal ticket -- or, at least, that's what my gut tells me.

 

SFGoth's Gut: "Don't share your food!"

201 186 Martin is dead today because he was a racist. - No, the guy with the lighter skin was rayciss. When you validate that word, you might as well understand how the game is played. The point of the game is to be more anti-white than anyone you are competing with socially. If there is no white guy to be branded evil, as with George Zimmerman, whiteness can be falsely ascribed. It is not in the interests of anyone except stone-cold anti-whites to join in the "you're the racist" game.

202 182 Trainer says Hi to the NSA,

I sorta like the look of it...but I would I've been hit by forklifts on ice ridden flightlines...

there's a reason women have a spare 24 years on men in Mother Russia....

and a reason I am so ruthless....I was raised to fight those tough bastards.(God love 'em)

203 Russian pedestrians be crazy.

204 Half Most of the furor over this case is over contrived scenarios and outright errors over the facts.

..which The Media is doing its best to propagate. Almost like they have an agenda to deliberately spread contentious lies in order to foment civil unrest.

205 "158 I saw that La Raza has thrown Zimmerman under the bus. Have ANY hispanic groups come out in support of Zimmerman?

Posted by: CDR M at July 17, 2013 10:08 AM (cqZXM)"

Well, I see two possibilities:

1) Because of George Zimmerman's grandmother, he is excluded from the Raza.

2) La Raza does is not for "white Hispanics".  The obvious implication is that newly abandoned white Hispanics ought to look for a new home in the GOP since all the media tell everybody all the time that the GOP is only for white people, even Hispanic white people.

206

Posted by: Manos: Hands of Fate at July 17, 2013 10:17 AM (tWmgi)

 

Nope.  Manos is Citizen Kane compared to Tales From the Quadead Zone.

 

BTW, did anybody see the kickstarter for Manos:  The Hands of Felt?  It's supposed to be a puppet recreation of the movie.

207 Russian pedestrians be crazy. Posted by: WalrusRex at July 17, 2013 10:20 AM (VlXYw) Or dead

208 How about "I'm calling YOU out"? High noon on main street. 20 paces.
THAT'S age old.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2013 10:18 AM (i252N)

Too bad dueling has been outlawed in every State in the union.  It would solve a LOT of today's problems.

209

Into the Wild

 

I was cheering at the end. Total unredeemed asshole dying alone and in searing pain - whats not to love?

210 But we must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat, outside their home, if they can do so safely 193. Exactly. "the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat" AG dick-Holder "I am not interested in victory." . POTUS/CinC Barak Insane ObaMmm, mmm, mmma.

211 He was lost, for whatever reason, and thought he was going to find himself and made stupid, stupid, life ending choices. WELL, I'M NOT SURE IF HE FOUND HIMSELF, BUT I CERTAINLY FOUND HIM.

212 do you see this case as being a plus or minus to the fortunes of Republicans on the national level?

213 Speaking of movies, one of my cow-orkers brought a popcorn cart into the office today, complete with the orange oil.   Freakin' awesome.  He goes on my No-Stab List.

214 217 The obvious implication is that newly abandoned white Hispanics ought to look for a new home in the GOP since all the media tell everybody all the time that the GOP is only for white people, even Hispanic white people. - That would work if the GOP actually supported white people. But it doesn't.

215 I dated a Bulgarian girl once.  We could actually speak a bit of Japanese to each other.  That was fun.  (She was English fluent too.)  However, she didn't want to move to the U.S. because it was too informal and too commercial for her taste.  The rare one, huh?

216 199 Empire of Jeff,

Bang on, and the living up there is a lot less glamorous than folk think it to be.

You need to make it to Thunder Bay Jeff...

I envy you bud.

217 Felt?  What next a Dark Crystal version?

218

Had to do a double take while eating dinner.

Did he REALLY just say that self-defense is a bad thing.

Yep, yep he did.

WTF.

 

Posted by: RWC at July 17, 2013 10:18 AM (fWAjv)

 

RIGHT?

 

And not just   self-defense.   Defense of others, too.   Because by Stedman's doctrine, if a lunatic started shooting up a mall, it is the "common sense and age-old... duty"    of everyone in that mall to turn tail and run.   If you're a conceled carrier and you could take down the shooter before s/he could harm anyone else, tough shit!      You have a DUTY to run away and allow    your defenseless fellow citizens to be slaughtered, because otherwise the DOJ is going to bring the full brunt of its law enforcement arm down across your spine for having the GALL to take down a madman.

219 Too bad dueling has been outlawed in every State in the union. It would solve a LOT of today's problems. Insert Conan quote about Barbarians being more polite than "the civilized man."

220 duty to retreat, outside their home,

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The default under common law was and is "stand your ground."

It was only when the pussy progressives came to power in the last 100 years or so that "duty to retreat" laws were passed.

221 | / | \ / / | \ \ \ \_(*)_/ / \_(~:~)_/ /-( -\ / / * \ \ \ \ / / \ / | | _|_ ///\(o_o)/\\\ ||| ` ' ||| C'mon barrel!

222 La Raza = The Race. What race is mexican again?

223 Shit

224 AllenG, or "An armed society is a polite society."

225 221 Bigby's Newsprint Covered Hands,

It was like the film Papillion only his prison was his mind...

226

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 17, 2013 10:16 AM (4df7R)

 

What's even dumber is that the only one that statement *could* refer to was Martin. He had plenty of chances to retreat and chose to confront instead. From the moment he was sucker-punched Zimmerman never had a chance to retreat.

227

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 10:20 AM (/PCJa)

 

Rumor is that the villain is Unicron.  Of course, Bay denies it.  Time will tell.

228 200. ohne boom boom /Holder sounds like a girl, btw.

229 BTW, did anybody see the kickstarter for Manos: The Hands of Felt? It's supposed to be a puppet recreation of the movie.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 17, 2013 10:21 AM (zF6Iw)

The master will be pleased...

230 La Raza = The Race.
What race is mexican again?

***

It's like that old Procul Harem song, Zimmerman is a whiter shade of pale.

231 age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat

Where are we supposed to retreat to to avoid the invasion from the south?

232

La Raza = The Race.

What race is mexican again?

 

 

Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2013 10:25 AM (i252N)

 

 

The sombrero race.

233 Not only am I standing my ground, I'm advancing


"We're not holding anything. Let the hun do that. We are advancing all the time."

234 "Police say a group of juveniles caused a lot of trouble in Hollywood Tuesday night.According to authorities, the marauding mob of about 40 males and females was assaulting people, stealing cellphones and purses, and vandalizing property...."

So....guess these bystanders fucked up by not retreating, right Eric?

235

Posted by: Steve at July 17, 2013 10:14 AM (FNDXw)

 

Get lost you linkwhoring asshole.  You deserve to be trollbusted.

236 243 Heather Radish,

indeed...follow-up question for AG Steadman....

"age old is defined as roughly 1953 to present why do you want deference to felons cocksucker?"

237 For those who haven't seen it yet, go to XKCD. "Well, it's made the questions stupider."

238 duty to retreat Hm. When cops quit aiming to kill, and only injure a limb, firing only a single shot.

239 So....guess these bystanders fucked up by not retreating, right Eric?

Posted by: NSA at July 17, 2013 10:27 AM (2mSdf)

 

 

Of course.   They had an age-old duty to cower in their homes with the doors   bolted and the windows barred.   If they were assaulted or robbed, it's their fault for having the audacity to be on the streets.   Did they never SEE "Clockwork Orange?"  

240 We need dash cams here in the USA. Like, yesterday. Seriously guys.

241 Of course, Bay denies it. Time will tell. Oh. So it's confirmed, then.

242

You need to make it to Thunder Bay Jeff...

-------------------------

 

That's a 16 hour drive  from where I live.  I can get to unspoiled wilderness in three hours. 

243 If you're a conceled carrier and you could take down the shooter before s/he could harm anyone else, tough shit! You have a DUTY to run away and allow your defenseless fellow citizens to be slaughtered, because otherwise the DOJ is going to bring the full brunt of its law enforcement arm down across your spine for having the GALL to take down a madman. And I will. Sow. Reap. Whirlwind. Some assembly required.

244

I think the villain in the next Transformers movie should be Stinkor   from  "Masters of the Universe."

 

Why?  Hell if I know.   I just think it would be   cool.

245 253 We need dash cams here in the USA. Like, yesterday. Seriously guys.

Posted by: Corona at July 17, 2013 10:29 AM (fh2Y7)

We want them too, but not pointed outward...

246 In the UK there is even a duty to retreat in your own home. If you're the victim of a home invasion, you're suppose to barricade yourself in a room and wait to your attackers leave. And god help you if you harm one hair on your attackers head. You wil be arrested, possibly even charged with a crime.

247 The Republic of Texas. The time has come.

248 I will say, however, that the indecisiveness and formal hoops you have to jump through with other people who have been raised the same way (siblings, etc.) can be hilarious.

Eventually we're reduced to buying a box of cereal at the Kwiki-Mart for dinner because all the restaurants have closed, because no one's gonna say, "Fine, I'll pick."

249 255 Empire of Jeff,

Heh...Thunder Bay throws some wild parties eh?

It really is majestic.

250 Nood

251 Too bad dueling has been outlawed in every State

In one of the only good things that happened in Ohio in the 70's, they repealed their Section 5 to eliminate the prohibition on known duellists holding state office. First issue I ever campaigned for.

And that's why Woody Hayes wasn't both Governor and prexy of OSU.

252 In the UK there is even a duty to retreat in your own home. If you're the victim of a home invasion, you're suppose to barricade yourself in a room and wait to your attackers leave. And god help you if you harm one hair on your attackers head. You wil be arrested, possibly even charged with a crime.

Posted by: Zombie Speedbump at July 17, 2013 10:31 AM (cjFRv)

 

I remember a case    in the UK where a robber injured himself while     robbing a man's home.   I think it was a loose or weak section of roof and he fell through, or else he cut himself on window glass after he broke it.    Anyway, he sued the homeowner.  And won.

253 Okay, Now, I don't drink, but everyone gets to make exceptions. What's the proper celebratory drink for *finally* receiving your CHL? I should get it before the end of the week, I think.

254 > And god help you if you harm one hair on your attackers head. You wil be arrested, possibly even charged with a crime. This is why shovels and lime were created.

255 Holder: "But we must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat, outside their home, if they can do so safely"

Guess what you dishonest, impeached F*ck? Since your entire speech was in response to the GZ case, GZ didn't feel threatened when he was outside his home until he was unable to retreat. GZ was on the phone, gun holstered, and reporting to a dispatcher. Then, when he opted to retreat but under no visible threat, he was cold-cocked by a little thug. At that point he had yet to use a weapon and was put in a non-retreatable position which is to say pinned with his cranium and face getting pounded front and back. He was forced to act and a good and righteous law saw that actual justice was done though it was a superficially ugly outcome.

But we all know this has nothing to do with law and facts, you GD liar. You will NOT succeed in rewriting history on this one.

256 this morning's Drudge headline included a Congresswoman sponsoring a bill against military sexual assault. Like another law will stop all [sex] crimes.
Posted by: panzernashorn at July 17, 2013 10:10 AM (MhA4j)

Um, hello? It's already covered lady.

Posted by: UCMJ at July 17, 2013 10:12 AM (cqZXM)

Yeah, but now they won't have a right of self defense.

257 La Raza = The Race. What race is mexican again? Posted by: rickb223 at July 17, 2013 10:25 AM (i252N) Exactly. If logic were involved, or honesty, they'd embrace "mixed" racial identity. Anyway, Mexicans hate their indigenous tribes, and are glad their oligarchy "White-Mexican" government targets their 'Amexindians' (south of the Amerindian border) for annihilation. Still. La Raza identifies BIGOTS.

258 What's the proper celebratory drink for *finally* receiving your CHL? I should get it before the end of the week, I think. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) - Passing through Rage & Out the Other Side at July 17, 2013 10:32 AM (/PCJa) Congrats AllenG. slides a can of Colt. 45 down the bar

259

What's the proper celebratory drink for *finally* receiving your CHL? I should get it before the end of the week, I think.

 

Pappy Van Winkle.

260 267 Lemmy,

I tend to favor liquid potash as solution...

http://tinyurl.com/lsmt336

you can argue you were engaged in hydroponics, and use the glycerine donor to wash your house....

ie it turns the fat in the body into soap.

261 Sooo......unreasonable "stand-your-ground" laws to be replaced by common sense "Whitey, take your beating" laws. Got it.

262 On the subject of Russian mortality rates, I believe that the homicide rate in Russia is twice as high as the United States.  This is despite the fact that it is illegal for private citizens to own hand guns and they have very few of the demographic that commits more than half of the homicides in the United States.

My assumption is that there are a whole lot of drunks stabbing their drunk friends or bashing in their heads over some meaningless drunk argument.

263 My assumption is that there are a whole lot of drunks stabbing their drunk friends or bashing in their heads over some meaningless drunk argument. Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at July 17, 2013 10:58 AM (31Nrp) Thinning out the herd? Sort of like South side Chicago on a Saturday night?

264 Um, hello? It's already covered lady. Posted by: UCMJ at July 17, 2013 10:12 AM (cqZXM) Yeah, but now they won't have a right of self defense. Posted by: WalrusRex Right. "There ought to be a law" syndrome of perpetual lunacy. Here's a point: rather than being impressed with candidates boasting at how many NEW bills they've sponsored, FOR US, read the bills and reject shit. recurring GOP primary campaign issue ... if memory serves, Sen. Fred Thompson had only sponsored bills to require government employees to be highly skilled and required to perform properly their job responsibilities. The House-Senate Republican majority rejected support for that vote. And stoopid voters later criticized Thompson's work in the Senate as meaningless because he'd passed no new laws. Consider well what sort of laws WERE getting passed, including the sort he opposed. His POTUS campaign platform? FIRST PRINCIPLES. Never made it on to McCain's "my friend" bandwagon GOP gone bust.

265

Ah the Peanut Farmer;  living proof of the accuracy of the maxim "Too Soon Old--Too Late Smart".

 

Would that he had learned to keep his mouth shut 30 years ago.

266 Olberdouche returning to ESPN. Way to go, ESPN. You're joining my long list of boycotted media outlets.

267 214 182 Trainer says Hi to the NSA,
I sorta like the look of it...but I would I've been hit by forklifts on ice ridden flightlines...
there's a reason women have a spare 24 years on men in Mother Russia....
and a reason I am so ruthless....I was raised to fight those tough bastards.(God love 'em)


Me too.  They were a good enemy...unlike the assholes we fight now, foreign and domestic.

268 McCandless was an idiot. A better story is that of Daniel Suelo, who spent over 10 years living in a cave in the Moab desert. Dude has an odd philosophy, part hard left and part hard right/libertarian. But that mofo knows his survival skills, I tell you what. I was hoping to meet him when I go on a backpacking trip to the Moab in September, but Suelo is currently hitchhiking across the USA, living off the land along the way. He uses no money, doesn't believe in the US dollar. But like I said, a lot of his beliefs are much more in line with libertarianism/conservatism. Anti-government intrusion, anti-regulation. Fascinating guy. If the burning times come, that's one motherfucker who's going to be ready.

269 277. the neoconservative abusers of authority weren't about to tolerate any "hands down" Oval Office flack. When McCain "beat" Thompson, neoconservatism lost it's last credible shred of legitimacy as an agenda. "First Principles" had to go down in flames. It went against corruption. It threatened the status quo bipartisan "shared values" advancing the embrace of authoritarianism. Speculate on the GOP '12 Presidential Primary had Fred Thompson's First Principles been winning the party's primary campaign by the rules despite Elder Bush's endorsement of Romney. Would Republican pundits and voters have rolled over for the behind-closed-doors change of campaign rules during the Convention without a vote? That they did, anyway, isn't merely history. It's another fortress v. constitutional conservatism. And they built that.

270 "With Liberty and Justice For All" try that on for size, social justice supremacists.

271 by the way I hate hate hate Swype and can't get it off my phone.

If your phone is Android, you can disable it in Settings.  To remove it you have to root the phone.

272 129 The GOP *does* have a policy problem. It got us into unpopular and costly wars against Iraq and Afghanistan without a single lawmaker saying, "yeah (as in "yay", not "yeh"), I vote to send this country's citizens to *war*" ... Posted by: SFGoth at July 17, 2013 09:57 AM (c/ao - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - History re-write in progress in the above? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution QUOTE The resolution authorized President Bush to use the Armed Forces of the United States "as he determines to be necessary and appropriate" in order to "defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq." UNQUOTE

273 255 Empire of Jeff,

Heh...Thunder Bay throws some wild parties eh?

It really is majestic.



Just don't go there with stitches.  If they see them, they will try and open you up again.

274 "Second look Jimmy Carter?"

The only look Peanut Brain deserves is to be spit upon again after having been spit upon once already.