January 28, 2013
— Ace As the goal is admitted, let us have no more discussion of these ridiculous diversions.
The goal sought is disarmament, period. Accomplished bit by bit. But none of those bits are "reasonable" or "common sense" as they are admittedly simply elements of the intended goal, which is complete disarmament.
If the goal isn't worthy, then none of the steps towards it should be undertaken.
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Posted by: Vic at January 28, 2013 11:01 AM (53z96)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 28, 2013 11:01 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 28, 2013 11:01 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:01 AM (piMMO)
Is this whole thing starting to move very rapidly or is it just my perception?
Because it feels like it's snowballing.
Posted by: Who Knows at January 28, 2013 11:02 AM (W+Itt)
Posted by: Vic at January 28, 2013 11:02 AM (53z96)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 11:02 AM (jVAw4)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 28, 2013 11:03 AM (/zrB9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 28, 2013 11:03 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:03 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 28, 2013 11:03 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: mallfly at January 28, 2013 11:03 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2013 11:04 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 28, 2013 11:04 AM (ZKzrr)
I guess shit rolls south.
In any case, I'll call my friend and SD and tell him to lock up his airsoft rifles they'll be coming for those next!
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 28, 2013 11:04 AM (b4xCO)
Posted by: mallfly at January 28, 2013 11:04 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: quarkstud at January 28, 2013 11:04 AM (XNEXn)
Posted by: Xander Crews at January 28, 2013 11:04 AM (8bgDT)
They also have the best weather in the nation.
Posted by: Vic at January 28, 2013 11:04 AM (53z96)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 11:05 AM (jVAw4)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2013 11:05 AM (PzMYS)
Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 28, 2013 11:05 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: Fritz at January 28, 2013 11:05 AM (WM+rJ)
They can't keep illegal immigrants out...or drugs.
So how are they going to keep gun shipments from being smuggled in?
Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2013 11:05 AM (BZMZX)
Posted by: akula51 at January 28, 2013 11:05 AM (YesJa)
Posted by: Kal Penn at January 28, 2013 11:05 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2013 11:05 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 28, 2013 11:05 AM (QxSug)
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I'm willing to just give it to them.....or pay them to take it.
Posted by: Tami[/i] at January 28, 2013 11:06 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Gerry at January 28, 2013 11:06 AM (DJIo7)
Posted by: Heralder at January 28, 2013 11:06 AM (+xmn4)
Posted by: Miller at January 28, 2013 11:06 AM (DPqcf)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 28, 2013 11:06 AM (/zrB9)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 28, 2013 11:06 AM (VtjlW)
Mexifornia one of my joys in our new powerless state will be trying to get you sent back to mexico.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:06 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 28, 2013 11:06 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:06 AM (piMMO)
http://tinyurl.com/avpw3lh
How do NYC cops get away with packing in DC? Because of Bloomy? And demanding ID from a reporter?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 28, 2013 11:07 AM (UOM48)
Alas, it seems it might be falling in with the rest of the state.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 03:03 PM (piMMO)
SD is gorgeous. My sister and nieces used to live there before they moved to Charlotte. I asked her why she did it because Charlotte, while okay, just isn't as wonderful as SD. She said she just wanted to be closer to my dad. I asked my other sister what the real reason was; she said "She moved because SD is part of California now."
Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2013 11:07 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Emdoc at January 28, 2013 11:07 AM (0RJ16)
Posted by: RioBravo at January 28, 2013 11:07 AM (eEfYn)
Because it feels like it's snowballing.
The Left is confident. When that happens, they forget to be dishonest.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 28, 2013 11:07 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 28, 2013 11:07 AM (+oin+)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2013 11:07 AM (PzMYS)
We are getting hit from all sides. Guns. Immigration. Abandoning the Constitution.
And now the asshats are after football.
Where do we defend? Where do we give? Me?
Flags up!
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at January 28, 2013 11:07 AM (8cJXl)
I live here. It is one of the most beautiful places in the world, let alone the country.
We are also being pounded with huge wave of illegals. The food pantries can't keep up and the usual crap is going on with absentee landlords, who don't seem to know that 2 or 3 families are in each rental, trashing it in the process.
My home town is going to hell and I can't do a thing about it.
Posted by: Who Knows at January 28, 2013 11:07 AM (W+Itt)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2013 03:05 PM (jVAw4)
I skipped the zoo because it was like $40/person to see it.
I live in St. Louis (#1 Free zoo in the US and like #2 or 3 overall) don't really regret it.
Posted by: tsrblke (work) at January 28, 2013 11:07 AM (b4xCO)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 28, 2013 11:08 AM (evdj2)
Because it couldn't possibly be that they want both.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 28, 2013 11:08 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2013 03:07 PM (RD7QR)
So SD is now blue? Must be all those Mexicans coming in, just natural Republicans you know.
We should let in another 30 million of them.
Posted by: Vic at January 28, 2013 11:09 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2013 11:09 AM (9Bj8R)
Hunh. That must be what all that "Universal Background Check" for private transactions is all about, hmm?
"Oh sorry, they didn't approve the sale"
Posted by: Tim Foyle at January 28, 2013 11:09 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 28, 2013 11:09 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 28, 2013 11:09 AM (e0xKF)
That should go viral. Also be cross-stitched into a sampler.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 28, 2013 11:10 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2013 11:10 AM (PzMYS)
Posted by: L, elle at January 28, 2013 11:10 AM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: Marco Rubio at January 28, 2013 11:10 AM (/zrB9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 28, 2013 11:10 AM (UOM48)
"I remember having a conversation with some of my friends and they were like, ‘How is it that you are such a political freak and you haven't been able to vote here in the United States or in Mexico?’" Sergio said. "And I'm like, 'There are other ways in which I can actually influence the political atmosphere with a more direct way.'
"For example, when I was working with Assembly Member Mendoza or Assembly Member Block's office, I was actually advising the member on how to vote on certain things by collecting information, by analyzing bills, by doing things that other people are not able to do."
-- Illegal aliens. Doing jobs others can't.
Posted by: RioBravo at January 28, 2013 11:10 AM (eEfYn)
But of course this is the goal...
Hopefully NYC's law will be immediately appealed up to the court's.
Honestly though, I want to see Heller II get appealed directly to the Sup. Ct. This one would be a two-fer, knock out the so-called "AWB" and a "registration of every firearm law".
If we can knock those two laws out, the Second Amendment will be secure.
Posted by: Prescient11 at January 28, 2013 11:10 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Fritz at January 28, 2013 11:10 AM (WM+rJ)
Posted by: Eaton Cox at January 28, 2013 11:10 AM (q177U)
Posted by: © Sponge at January 28, 2013 11:11 AM (xmcEQ)
Here's another tip on how to handle the media.
Use what this San Diego police chief said as if the JEF chiseled it into the base of the Lincoln Memorial. State it as fact, as if everyone on the planet agreed, that Obama's goal is total civilian disarmorment.
Start the conversations from that point. The rest is easy.
Posted by: jwest at January 28, 2013 11:11 AM (ZDsRL)
>>>It is very clear they have set up the paradigm. It is not longer the case they they are public servants accountable to us. It is the state against the people
Been that way for a while now on all levels, in most localities.
Posted by: Bigby's Over Mitt at January 28, 2013 11:11 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at January 28, 2013 11:11 AM (sri11)
55
We are getting hit from all sides. Guns. Immigration. Abandoning the Constitution.
It's the same issue...those things are all related to accomplishing the goal of enslaving us under totalitarian rule.
Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2013 11:11 AM (BZMZX)
I'll bet you anything that the "progressives" consider those two positions inconsistent, never making the connection between how much easier it is to manhandle people who are unarmed.
Posted by: Ken at January 28, 2013 11:11 AM (3ar4L)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 28, 2013 11:11 AM (e0xKF)
Then if your gun is not in the file you will be accused of having a stolen gun.
Register, then take. UBC must be stopped, it is not benign.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 11:11 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2013 03:09 PM (9Bj8R)
Shit yes. Why go out when you can get delivery?
Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2013 11:12 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: RioBravo at January 28, 2013 11:12 AM (eEfYn)
The guy in front of me said he's going to put all of his guns in a Trust so that his kids don't "inherit them." Now, I don't know if that will actually work or not, but my wife asked me later how the government would prevent transfers anyway.
I think maybe I'll show her this tonight.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 28, 2013 11:12 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:13 AM (piMMO)
It's very difficult to not see all of this as a piece of whole cloth.
This what the second term will be like. He has nothing to lose.
Posted by: Who Knows at January 28, 2013 11:13 AM (W+Itt)
Posted by: RioBravo at January 28, 2013 03:07 PM (eEfYn)
Well done
Posted by: The Jackhole at January 28, 2013 11:13 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Baron Münchhausen at January 28, 2013 11:14 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2013 11:14 AM (PzMYS)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:14 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 28, 2013 03:06 PM (/zrB9)
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Two things going against this. First, is state nullification. States do not have to adhere to any law that is obviously against our God-given rights.
Secondly, they're going to be up against people like me who won't mind being a headline in the news.
Posted by: Soona at January 28, 2013 11:14 AM (DM+ui)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:14 AM (piMMO)
It was called Schindler's List.
Posted by: EC at January 28, 2013 03:10 PM (GQ8sn)
I am stwaling this. Brilliant
Posted by: The Jackhole at January 28, 2013 11:14 AM (nTgAI)
They know. Its just like doing a Section 8 rental. You know the place is gonna get blasted but you don't care if the checks keep coming.
This is how slums are created.
I tried to be an ethical landlord years ago, it was financially ruinous.
Posted by: @PurpAv at January 28, 2013 11:14 AM (GlnE7)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 28, 2013 11:14 AM (e0xKF)
Because it feels like it's snowballing.
It's not snowballing anywhere but in the MSM. The rest of the country is scared as shit about their talk. We take the Senate in 2014
Please Barry make these assholes in the Senate vote for Fienstien's bill. It will be their last vote.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 11:15 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2013 11:15 AM (tmzN0)
I've been in a huge funk for the last three months. Just feel like there's this massive other shoe about to drop, you know? I almost wish it would come on and get it over with so I could at least stop stressing worrying about what's going to happen.
Anyone else going through anything similar?
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at January 28, 2013 11:15 AM (SbV8+)
I think maybe I'll show her this tonight.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 28, 2013 03:12 PM (8y9MW)
ISWYDT
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 28, 2013 11:16 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 28, 2013 11:16 AM (e0xKF)
BTW, I visited SD once and didn't want to come home. I loved it.
Alas, it seems it might be falling in with the rest of the state.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 03:03 PM (piMMO)
Yeah, I grew up here, and have been alarmed since I moved back at how Red it has become and is becoming. The cancer has spread from SF and LA as the liberal cockroaches flee the problems they created there.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 11:16 AM (IDSI7)
Posted by: Joe Biden's Dead Flacid Unit at January 28, 2013 11:16 AM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:16 AM (piMMO)
Typical guns for me not for thee bullshit.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 28, 2013 11:17 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 28, 2013 11:17 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: akula51 at January 28, 2013 03:05 PM (YesJa)
If you've been following the news, both print and video, you'll notice a great many features lately arguing for dispensing with the Constitution--although some on the Left grant that maybe keeping the more memorably worded bits as a kind of legacy artifact of some sort might be a good idea.
The US Constitution is In The Way. Guns are In The Way. And we who believe in one and own the other? Guess.
Molon labe.
Posted by: troyriser at January 28, 2013 11:17 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2013 03:11 PM (BZMZX)
So we are at the "When in the Course of human events"stage.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at January 28, 2013 11:17 AM (8cJXl)
hahahahahahahhaha.
Drudge has the Bloomberg story up front and center.
It's a beautiful piece. As it shows the utter hypocrisy of this fuck and gets a pot shot on the soda ban as well.
Some animals are more equal than others....
INDEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU MSM. DIE ALREADY JUST FUCKING DIE.
Posted by: Prescient11 at January 28, 2013 11:17 AM (tVTLU)
So I chalk this up as leftist red-meat to the "base".
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Posted by: looking closely at January 28, 2013 11:17 AM (6Q9g2)
Posted by: Barack "I'm your only hope" Obama at January 28, 2013 11:17 AM (xAtAj)
>>>One way or another, we're being played like a harp.
About that? You remember how Ace was talking about micro-targeting of votes, right? There's always been room for side-projects, the IDing of who would NOT vote for them, your preferences, how you would jump if stimulus A or B was given..... Do you doubt it? I don't.
Posted by: Bigby's Over Mitt at January 28, 2013 11:18 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 28, 2013 11:18 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 28, 2013 11:18 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: Marcus at January 28, 2013 11:18 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work & a member of NRA at January 28, 2013 11:19 AM (JT/Hz)
I suppose the White House will also take credit for helping Senator Bob Menendez procure sex with underaged Dominican prostitutes.
Posted by: Mark Foley at January 28, 2013 11:19 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: ElKomandante at January 28, 2013 11:19 AM (xIUnF)
Jeez.
I've been in a huge funk for the last three months. Just feel like there's this massive other shoe about to drop, you know? I almost wish it would come on and get it over with so I could at least stop stressing worrying about what's going to happen.
Anyone else going through anything similar?
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at January 28, 2013 03:15 PM (SbV8+)
I would guess all of us.
Posted by: troyriser at January 28, 2013 11:19 AM (vtiE6)
Menendez procure sex with underaged Dominican prostitutes.
Posted by: Mark Foley at January 28, 2013 03:19 PM (e8kgV)
They did it for the children.
Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2013 11:19 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: #6 at January 28, 2013 11:19 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2013 11:20 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 28, 2013 11:20 AM (8y9MW)
I got lucky with them as well.
Go on...
Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at January 28, 2013 11:20 AM (sri11)
How'd that work out Chief?
Posted by: Marcus at January 28, 2013 03:16 PM (GGCsk)
The Mexicans tried that at Gonzales. Siestas a bitch.
Posted by: Sam F'n Houston Bitchez at January 28, 2013 11:20 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: Princess Hillary at January 28, 2013 11:20 AM (71LDo)
Posted by: drawandstrike at January 28, 2013 11:20 AM (uVLJc)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 28, 2013 11:21 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:21 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: #6 at January 28, 2013 03:19 PM (KHo8t)
They actually bothered to read history. This is all nauseatingly predictable. I thought we could avoid it but it looks like even a machine as magnificent as the constitution can't overcome human nature.
Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2013 11:21 AM (RD7QR)
NYPD cops are only issued either true double action only guns or striker-fired autos (like Glocks) with artificially heavied triggers to simulate a double-action pull. In fact this modification to the Glock is actually called a "New York trigger".
There is one exception that older cops who originally qualified with other guns can still keep them. So some desk-job sgt can keep his 1980s issue snubnose.
1911s were never standard issue for NYPD cops (ie ever) and I bet this guy doesn't qualify to carry one under the rules everyone else has to follow.
Posted by: looking closely at January 28, 2013 11:21 AM (PwGfd)
Megan Kelly was talking today about the 'length of time' it takes for 911 to respond to your call...
She was surprised to learn that it often takes 20 minutes, to an hour, in some places...for police to get to your location.
"Wow. That's taking too long."...Megan said, shaking her head.
Fuck, Megan. Welcome to the real world.
Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2013 11:22 AM (BZMZX)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:22 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Pops at January 28, 2013 11:22 AM (QjFDb)
Once I thought about it, I knew it would fail eventually. I just never thought (until recently) that it would be possible for "eventually" to be in my lifetime. Now, I'd put it at 50/50.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 28, 2013 11:22 AM (8y9MW)
I still can't believe That Fucking Guy was re-elected.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 28, 2013 11:22 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2013 11:22 AM (9Bj8R)
The problem is Trust can not buy guns, only people with an id can. There is no real way to transfer a gun already in possession to a trust. You need some proof of the transfer. That would mean selling the guns to the trust. The trust can not get approve for the sale.
See it's a circular argument. A bill of sale to the trust would not remove the name of the last owner, UNLESS that owner had an Id. This is why there are FFL's that own the guns before you buy them.
Bottom line, sound like a bad lawyer to me.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 11:22 AM (wR+pz)
The goal sought is [disarmament] socialism, period. Accomplished bit by bit. But none of those bits are "reasonable" or "common sense" as they are admittedly simply elements of the intended goal, which is [complete disarmament] socialism.
Posted by: CJ at January 28, 2013 11:23 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: L, elle at January 28, 2013 11:23 AM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at January 28, 2013 11:23 AM (xAtAj)
It can but it needed ruthlessly defended and the "greatest generation" God help me for saying this refused to spank the kids....
we're not blameless either but this was decided when Teddy kennedy got away with his games on immigration coupled with letting the smelly ass hippy fucks take over schools and the media.....
we're fucked.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:24 AM (LRFds)
OK. . .didn't read what you wrote.
In San Diego, apparently the cops can carry whatever they like, so long as its approved by the rangemaster. Lots of them DO carry 1911s, including the chief.
Posted by: looking closely at January 28, 2013 11:24 AM (PwGfd)
Posted by: Captain Ed Hocken at January 28, 2013 11:24 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: wooga at January 28, 2013 11:24 AM (arbYd)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 28, 2013 11:25 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at January 28, 2013 11:25 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: Aaron at January 28, 2013 11:25 AM (Tlix5)
Well I am making up my mind on staying or leaving and frankly I'm leaning towards leaving.
"Honest" John Boehner invoking secret meetings on immigration just maxed my fuck you we're fucked meter.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:25 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 03:22 PM (wR+pz)
Maybe the trust can have a tragic boating accident.
Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2013 11:25 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Socktopus at January 28, 2013 11:26 AM (1FLBb)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 28, 2013 11:26 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 28, 2013 11:27 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 28, 2013 11:27 AM (evdj2)
@142
No, its a loophole for the NFA (national firearms act). You can also use an LLC, but you'd have to pay a tax. They've been in existance for over a decade. They key would be to put in a clause removing perpetuities (say placing the trust under Florida law)
I've been looking at this myself and have a draft I'm working on.
Posted by: Sam F'n Houston Bitchez at January 28, 2013 11:27 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: Ron Burgandy at January 28, 2013 03:06 PM (t06LC)
Winner.
Posted by: washington nearsider at January 28, 2013 11:27 AM (fwARV)
It's the Baby Lambs Rule. Sorry.
Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at January 28, 2013 11:27 AM (sri11)
An LLC held in trust CAN buy guns though if the transaction is legal.
You do not have to have a Class III to rent guns ergo...
you put all three voting shares of the LLC in the trust's name.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:27 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 11:28 AM (7xPCu)
Their sputtering amuses me.
Funniest response yet: "The ACLU keeps majority power blocs from taking over government at the expense of minorities and in violation of the Bill of Rights and other amendments. Often the parties named in ACLU lawsuits are governmental entities, but the real power blocs are white people, heterosexuals, Christians, etc. Governments are targeted, not because they're powerful, rights-snatching socialists, but because they're wimps."
Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 28, 2013 11:28 AM (X/+QT)
http://www.jacksonvillelawyer.pro/lawyer-attorney-1315473.html
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 28, 2013 11:28 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: Baby Marmalade at January 28, 2013 11:28 AM (jwumz)
***
What makes you think he has only one four more years.
Let me make a prediction.
2013: the Reps cave, give Obama gun registration and amnesty. For the latter they throw in delaying language, Obama ignores it and registers the 20-30M illegals for the 2014 election.
2014: Dems take the House. Outcries about voter fraud go nowhere. A few prominent conservatives publicly declare the time for deciding issues at the ballot box is over. Most Republicans call them dangerous radicals. Militias start to form in most red/purple states.
2015: Gun confiscation measure passed. Several violent stand offs occur, militias start opposing federal actions. Obama declares a state of emergency. Most establishment Republicans join the "Democrat-Republican Unity Party"
2016: 22nd Amendment repealed. President declares martial law.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 28, 2013 11:28 AM (AUeaU)
Posted by: The Mega Independent[/i] at January 28, 2013 11:29 AM (sri11)
Actually, I don't think he is. Think about it: it's so hard to get a gun in CA already that the people who have them are going to be more jealous of that right than, say, some guy in New Mexico who can pick one up at the grocery store.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 28, 2013 11:29 AM (8y9MW)
Think about it....
How can they possibly enforce a 'Gun Ban'?
If they make it "only for future purchases"...as they are claiming...then how do they tell the difference between new purchases and previously owned?
They would use this excuse to try to create a National Registry.
Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2013 11:29 AM (BZMZX)
Oh rly???
Nah- they wouldn't go door to door to bust in and confiscate them. They'd just make sure that you could never carry or use it without fear of arrest.
Any firearms people didn't turn in would become illegal and thus black market guns. But don't worry- I'm sure that the criminal element would never get involved in the black market.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2013 11:29 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2013 11:29 AM (tmzN0)
I think it sounds like a clever lawyer scam. Presumably, the Trustee would be the person with ID. And the Trustee is going to be the lawyer. And when some court invalidates the Trust owning the guns, then... I'm sure the lawyer then has a great paper trail showing that he is actually the owner. Presto, lawyer gets himself lots of free guns.
Posted by: wooga at January 28, 2013 11:30 AM (arbYd)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:30 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 28, 2013 03:29 PM (sri11)
There was also a prolonged squawk in 1966.
Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 11:30 AM (7xPCu)
"I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, consider that you might be mistaken."
Yeah... that didn't end well either.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 28, 2013 11:31 AM (8y9MW)
It's not that hard to find the guns.
Once the kids see all the positive attention they get at school for turning in their dad and grandparents, a lot of the hidden guns will be found.
Maybe a few Jews in the attic too.
Posted by: jwest at January 28, 2013 11:31 AM (ZDsRL)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2013 11:31 AM (GFM2b)
Jefferson and others didn't think it would last two generations.
What's amazing to me about the Founders is that, unlike pretty much every intellectual movement that came after, the Founders didn't think they had the answer to everything.
They thought about structure and figured that almost every new idea was a bad idea because...it wasn't new.
The big problem with all of these Left-wing movements is that they all agree that things need to "change" and they all have in mind what the change should be. However, it's all different.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 28, 2013 11:32 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 28, 2013 11:32 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 28, 2013 11:32 AM (VtjlW)
And check out the hassling of Jason Mattera (http://tinyurl.com/avpw3lh) for simply asking Gun-Grabber Bloomberg about his security detail and Hizzoner's denying citizens their own protection.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 28, 2013 11:32 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Roy at January 28, 2013 11:32 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: wooga at January 28, 2013 03:30 PM (arbYd)
Trustee is usually the Settlor (creator). I would emphasize that once again these have been around for over a decade, and are routinely ok'd by the ATF for SBRs, Supressors, and machine guns (NFA goodies). Legit. Not a scam.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 28, 2013 11:33 AM (t06LC)
***
Our last hope is that John Boehner finds a pair. He has enough power to stop Obama right now, if he wants, as the majority leader of the most powerful element of the government - the House.
Unfortunately, it isn't going to happen, and we are going to get to see, in person, in the next four years, what happens when the government formally severs itself from the Constitution.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 28, 2013 11:33 AM (AUeaU)
Posted by: CraigPoe at January 28, 2013 11:33 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2013 11:33 AM (kdfQ/)
Alright then, I have six LLC they are 98% owned by my sons, when I die they get the controlling 2%. Please explain to me how I am going to buy a gun in an LLC? They will want an id, mine. If not, I have six pistol permits and I'll buy some guns.
Better yet, I know Larry Hyatt, he owns the largest independent gun store in the country. I'll go down tomorrow and ask him to sell me some shit in my LLC's name.
What to take bets how that is going to work out?
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 11:34 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 28, 2013 11:34 AM (e0xKF)
With all due respect, this statement doesn't pass the straight face test.
Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2013 11:35 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:35 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work & a member of NRA at January 28, 2013 11:35 AM (JT/Hz)
Posted by: derit at January 28, 2013 11:35 AM (I88Jc)
OK. . .didn't read what you wrote.
In San Diego, apparently the cops can carry whatever they like, so long as its approved by the rangemaster. Lots of them DO carry 1911s, including the chief.
Posted by: looking closely at January 28, 2013 03:24 PM (PwGfd)
Yeah, I was wondering where NYPD was coming from. 
I'm surprised about SD letting them use 1911s. It's almost unheard of for a med to large PD.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 28, 2013 11:35 AM (TIIx5)
The Constitution isn't dead. It's resting.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 28, 2013 03:29 PM (sri11)
There was also a prolonged squawk in 1966.
---
It's pining for the fjords.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 28, 2013 03:32 PM (e0xKF)
You couldn't make that constitution 'voom' if you put four million volts through it! Forty million FSA votes, that's another matter.
Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 11:36 AM (7xPCu)
Neither am I the longest arc is 8-12 years....that's it tops.
They pass Amnesty they will microtarget enough Red municipalities it is over.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:36 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:36 AM (piMMO)
@191
I will tell you its routine for NFA goods. A lot of people place their NFA items in the trust in the first place, and many gunstores here in Texas have a lawyer they will refer you to or have a form sitting by. I think the ATF just checks the trustee's info. The NFA check is also way more streneous than a regular check, so if it passes that, a regular check is no problem at all.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 28, 2013 11:37 AM (t06LC)
A decade ago, that'd be called a Godwin hyperbole. Now, it's becoming truth. A cold wind is blowing across the land. Brace yourselves and try to remember where the canoe tipped over when you lost your, um, braces.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 28, 2013 11:37 AM (eHIJJ)
Did you actually read anything that people responded to you with? Did you read the short commentary at the website? Just because you don't like/understand something, that doesn't make it invalid. Get a grip.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 28, 2013 11:37 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 28, 2013 11:37 AM (VtjlW)
***
Oh, they will argue it isn't for life. Just, with "the troubles" we need steady leadership right now. There will still be an election in 2016. Obama will be the only candidate on the ballot in all 50 states though. As will be the case in 2020.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 28, 2013 11:37 AM (AUeaU)
you gte it they do NOT work "for us" they think we work at their leisure "for them"
Article V blow this up and start over.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:37 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:37 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: bicentennialguy at January 28, 2013 11:38 AM (vg8iE)
http://tinyurl.com/aorblc2
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 28, 2013 03:33 PM (UOM4
Oh that's funny....
Posted by: © Sponge at January 28, 2013 11:39 AM (xmcEQ)
So. We're fucked then. Good to know.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Team Stompy. at January 28, 2013 03:37 PM (VtjlW)
Oh he'll find a pair....they won't be his, though.
Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 11:40 AM (7xPCu)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 28, 2013 11:40 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:41 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - sees the gods of the copybook headings on the horizon at January 28, 2013 11:41 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 28, 2013 11:41 AM (e0xKF)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - sees the gods of the copybook headings on the horizon at January 28, 2013 03:41 PM (hLRSq)
Then who would sign the White House visitor guest book?
Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 11:42 AM (7xPCu)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2013 11:42 AM (ytax8)
So that's why you never come by anymore
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 28, 2013 11:43 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 28, 2013 03:37 PM (da5Wo)
Yes, I read them. Seem like this only apply to Class III weapons. As I said earlier, I will try tomorrow to buy some gun in one of my LLC's.
What to bet how that is going to work out?
By the way, I also have a GRAT, I am not unfamiliar with trusts. You think a guy that is going to die broke (he he) hasn't figured some things out?
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 11:43 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: awkward davies at January 28, 2013 11:43 AM (USjX1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 03:41 PM (piMMO)
Yeah, I know. That's how I found it.
Sorry, should've passed along that it was from your link.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at January 28, 2013 11:43 AM (da5Wo)
That's the kind of stretch that needs a rope and a scaffold there ocifer.
Posted by: ontherocks at January 28, 2013 11:44 AM (aZ6ew)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 28, 2013 11:44 AM (Ec6wH)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 28, 2013 03:27 PM (evdj2)
Heh. Nice reference to Gen Mattis' infamous quote.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 28, 2013 11:45 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Trevor (@tjexcite) at January 28, 2013 11:45 AM (Ea64Y)
Just wondering how my name on the pistol permit is going to get changed to the LLC?
Not going to happen.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 11:45 AM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:45 AM (piMMO)
67 million guns have been sold since Obama took office the first time.
Well done asshole, well done.
Posted by: The Jackhole at January 28, 2013 11:46 AM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:46 AM (piMMO)
Well done asshole, well done.
Posted by: The Jackhole at January 28, 2013 03:46 PM (nTgAI)
Hey, credit where it's due.
Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 11:47 AM (7xPCu)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:47 AM (piMMO)
The media makes major money off of Presidential Elections.
It is a big cash cow for them.
They make money off the Primaries...they make money all during the General Election.
You think they will be onboard with doing away with that?
While the useful idiots in front of the cameras may like the idea of having Barky as a Preezy-for-Life...their bosses won't.
Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2013 11:47 AM (BZMZX)
@222
They'll prbably check you out, but it really happens all. the. fucking. time. With class 3 shit.
Go to the NFA section at ar15.com
Hell, I know 3 guys in my office that have done it, and another 1 that is in the process.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 28, 2013 11:48 AM (t06LC)
If you really want to collect an arsenal of Class III weapons, do it like this.
File the simple forms to start a non-profit, educational organization. If you live in West Bumfuck, file the forms for the West Bumfuck Museum of Firearms.
Use grant money to purchase the arms by making requests showing you're displaying "banned" guns and want to continue adding to the display. Cover the BATF regs by showing you're not a gun nut, but a serious achedmic studying scary guns.
Of course, house the exhibit in a trailer so that it can be moved easily (or heaven forbid, stolen).
Posted by: jwest at January 28, 2013 11:49 AM (ZDsRL)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:49 AM (piMMO)
Just wondering how my name on the pistol permit is going to get changed to the LLC?
Not going to happen.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 03:45 PM (wR+pz)
Buy it in your name, transfer to the LLC. Have a receipt. Done.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 28, 2013 11:49 AM (t06LC)
Anybody think this fascist blackshirt has any intention of disarming himself or his troops.
Ask yourself this. What is the justification for arming police any differently than civilians? (Moreover, what is Feinstein's justification for allowing RETIRED cops to have greater rights under the Second Amendment than anybody else?)
Under our Constitution, a police officerÂ’s right to use a firearm is governed by standards that are identical to those that govern a civilianÂ’s use of a firearm. A civilian police officer has no lawful right to use a firearm that is greater than, or is any different than, a civilianÂ’s right.
Supreme Court authority about this is monolithic. A police officer may only use deadly force to defend himself or another from a significant threat of death or serious physical injury. That is precisely the same standard governing a civilianÂ’s use of deadly force. Given that the standards are identical ,then it only follows that police officers have no right or necessity to be armed in any way superior to civilians. If a police officer or Secret Service agent "needs" an M-16 to defend himself or others from a significant threat of death or serious physical injury, then so do I.
Please, push back on this. IÂ’d be interested to hear the counter-argument.
Posted by: D Boone kilt a bar on this tree at January 28, 2013 11:50 AM (Xv7f/)
If you really want to collect an arsenal of Class III weapons, do it like this.
File the simple forms to start a non-profit, educational organization. If you live in West Bumfuck, file the forms for the West Bumfuck Museum of Firearms.
Use grant money to purchase the arms by making requests showing you're displaying "banned" guns and want to continue adding to the display. Cover the BATF regs by showing you're not a gun nut, but a serious achedmic studying scary guns.
Of course, house the exhibit in a trailer so that it can be moved easily (or heaven forbid, stolen).
Posted by: jwest at January 28, 2013 03:49 PM (ZDsRL)
I'd rather the feds not try to classify what weapons I possess.
Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 11:50 AM (7xPCu)
234...Since he took office...
I wonder if that includes the numbers sold in anticipation of and immediately following his election.
Yeah, NDH.
There were record sales going on back in 2008...*before* the election.
Posted by: wheatie at January 28, 2013 11:50 AM (BZMZX)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:51 AM (piMMO)
What difference at that point does this make?
Posted by: ontherocks at January 28, 2013 11:51 AM (aZ6ew)
Lansdowne believes that the shooting in Newtown, Connecticut weakened the gun lobby's power and has opened the door for new gun control legislation.
"We broke the NRA," Lansdowne said off-camera.
I'm sure the criminals are applauding this assclown's stance
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 28, 2013 11:51 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 03:49 PM (piMMO)
Better than an image of Ru Paul sitting in for Paul Ryan. I think.
Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 11:51 AM (7xPCu)
Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 03:50 PM (7xPCu)
I'm the same way, but at least my method makes it easier to get a shoulder fired anti-tank weapon.
Posted by: jwest at January 28, 2013 11:52 AM (ZDsRL)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 28, 2013 03:33 PM (AUeaU)
All that stands between us and Marxist dystopia are John Boehner's balls? Great. Just great.
Posted by: troyriser at January 28, 2013 11:53 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 11:53 AM (piMMO)
We're oppressing you for your own good!
Posted by: Bill Ayres at January 28, 2013 11:53 AM (DLu2s)
In the four years since Barack Obama was first elected president in November 2008, an estimated 67 million firearms have been purchased in the United States. ThatÂ’s more than were sold in almost seven years before his first election.
December 2012 saw a record-shattering number of requests for criminal background checks on prospective gun buyers — more than 116,000 of those from Kansas and Missouri alone.
“Since Obama was re-elected,” said Gary Jessup of UT Arms in Kansas City, Kan., “it’s been off the chart.”
Nationwide, more than 2.7 million of those checks were recorded for December, according to statistics kept by the FBI. Since late 1998 when federal law began mandating such checks for prospective gun buyers, the only other month that exceeded the 2 million mark was November 2012 — when Obama won a second term.
Posted by: The Jackhole at January 28, 2013 11:53 AM (nTgAI)
I have no desire to have any Class Three shit. I thought this idea was for transferring guns to an LLC and then having the Trust own the LLC. I see no way you can purchase a handgun in the state on NC in an LLC.
If you have a Class Three license, you are basically a dealer. Setting up and LLC to become a dealer would be the norm. How does that help me? I don't see how. I am not going to get fingerprinted, etc to get a Class Three license.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 11:54 AM (wR+pz)
***
I was flipping channels a few months ago and saw that he... she... he... WTFE it is, had a show of his...her...own.
Really? People watch that?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2013 03:53 PM (piMMO)
You might as well try to explain the existence of infomercials.
Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2013 11:54 AM (7xPCu)
The Sheriff is a moonbat. He fully supports Obama's and Feinstein's gun grab and boasted about undercutting the NRA.
From the article there is petition by liberals going around for his resignation as they contend that he man-handled OWS San Diego Supporters.
So this bag of hot air has managed to piss off both the right and left. Bravo!
Posted by: Cheri at January 28, 2013 11:55 AM (G+Wff)
All I could find about the controversial statement was this summary: "San Diego's Lansdowne, who plays an active role in the western region of the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP), said in the interview it may take a generation, but guns will eventually be taken off the streets through new laws."
This is pretty vague. Did he say *all* guns would be taken off the streets, or just some of them? He seems to be concerned about military-style assault rifles (yes, I know this is hard to define), but not handguns, shotguns, etc.
It seems to me that he probably didn't say what people are claiming he said.
Posted by: sauropod at January 28, 2013 11:57 AM (WdzGK)
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 03:54 PM (wR+pz)
Its not a class 3 license. Paperwork is the same. You can use a trust, or an llc.A lot of people go the trust route. The sample I'm looking at has regular guns and a special section for NFA ones to be owned by the LLC. Why couldn't you buy a regular handgun and then transfer it to an LLC? Class 3 is more stringent, so if it works there, ergo it should work for regular firearms.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 28, 2013 11:58 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: maddogg at January 28, 2013 11:58 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 28, 2013 03:49 PM (t06LC)
That was my point earlier. Having a receipt from the LLC will not get my name off the gun. The burden, if anything is done with the gun, will be on me to prove I sold the gun. Trust me, I know how to own shit in LLC. ALL my cars, boats and other toys are in my LLC's name. I highly recommend that for your cars especially. They can not run a trace on my LLC to see who is driving or whether or not I have a CC.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 11:59 AM (wR+pz)
Get in your car, go to the nearest range that rents guns and ask how they own the guns.
I am not in Carolina Del Nor er New York del Sur but in Ohio LLC's own non class 3 firearms.
"Good luck"
Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 11:59 AM (LRFds)
Have I talked to you about "Herba Life"?
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 12:01 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Buddy PC at January 28, 2013 12:01 PM (jfUIE)
Billy Bob if you are the controlling officer of the LLC the LLC has ownership of the firearm you carry.
You seem like a savvy guy talk to 2 groups.
1) an armed personal protection company and see how they handle company guns for carry and what laws are involved and
2)an indoor range that rents guns.
You are either adding unnecessary complexity to the paradigm or not in NC only way to find out is to ask or hire a lawyer.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 28, 2013 12:02 PM (LRFds)
Lansdowne believes that the shooting in Newtown, Connecticut weakened
the gun lobby's power and has opened the door for new gun control
legislation.
"We broke the NRA," Lansdowne said off-camera.
By broke I guess he means doubled their membership.
And even though the Chief Kelly in NYC conceded that most of the crimes are committed overwhelmingly by illegally possessed handguns he still supports the AWB and puts the blame on the high gun related crimes in NYC to other states and their ability to sell these devil tools.
Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2013 12:04 PM (m2CN7)
@260
What are you trying to get out of exactly? As of right now there is no restriction on transferring guns. Do it now, they pass someting later, you're grandfathered and they can't come after you with an ex-post facto law.
The llc owns the weapon, and say if Feinstien wants to prohibit transfers altogether, so what? Just transfer ownership in the LLC. It will last for perpetuity. (Yes I am a lawyer)
If you want out of any kind of background check, head to MLK blvd in any major city, there are probably a few guns you can buy FTF.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 28, 2013 12:04 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: nip at January 28, 2013 12:06 PM (11Tdq)
Posted by: Buddy PC at January 28, 2013 04:01 PM (jfUIE)
There's been conjecture--and I believe it--that Burroughs deliberately nailed his wife between the eyes with that little party trick. Burroughs was a slimy, lowlife pedophile--something anyone would know about him if they bothered to read a single random paragraph from, say, 'The Wild Boys'. In his thinly-veiled autobiographical novel, 'Junkie', Burroughs pretends to be a desperate, streetwise junkie living on the edge. In truth, his family (old St. Louis money) bankrolled his depraved adventurism his entire life. He was always the tourist, free to leave and go whenever and wherever he wanted.
I was a Literature major in college. In an attempt to win over the professor, an enthusiastic Beat afficionado, I did a make-or-break term paper on Burroughs which required that I read everything he wrote. Wanted to take a shower afterwards. What an asshole. What a slimeball. What a sleaze.
Posted by: troyriser at January 28, 2013 12:12 PM (vtiE6)
It has never occurred to me to put guns in an LLC, for the reason I mentioned earlier, it will not remove my name from the gun. I also have personal property tax concerns. If I transfer the guns to the LLC, they will have to list the property and pay property tax on them. Listing them might be a wise move to prove that the transfer really did occur, but now I am paying no property tax on them except the standard rate for my personal belongings in my home.
I'll have to work on this. I also might not want to list guns on an LLC tax return that currently are completely invisible. By trying to get some of my guns invisible I might be shooting myself in the foot by making others visible.
People make good money with Amway too?
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 12:13 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Chief Lansdowne at January 28, 2013 12:14 PM (SzAZ7)
Because it feels like it's snowballing.
Exactly how the Jews must have been feeling circa 1938... Posted by: BlueStateRebel
Uhhhh, NO, because by 1938, Jews had already lost their German citizenship, were barred from civil service and various professional jobs, were routinely boycotted, and had no lobbying organization.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 28, 2013 12:16 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: edmund at January 28, 2013 12:18 PM (Bjz58)
Sometimes cultures and values collide. Then a choice must be made, whose is the superior culture?
Upon being
appointed to govern a province in the British Raj, Gen. Sir Charles Napier
ended the Hindu practice of suttee which was the practice of burning a manÂ’s widow alive on his funeral
pyre. The local Hindu leadership
complained about the prohibition of suttee and Sir Charles gave a reply for
the ages on what happens when values and cultures collide. One, or the other, must give way:
“You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a
custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we
hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a
gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours.”
And THAT was the end of sutteei.
So too, I
fear, will it be with this collision of cultures and values. Molon labe.
Posted by: History major at January 28, 2013 12:22 PM (Xv7f/)
@270
By all intents and purposes, for a regular non class 3 weapon, saying you sold it makes it invisible. You don't report anything else to anyone. If you want invisible from inception, buy face to face from an individual.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 28, 2013 12:23 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Hepcat at January 28, 2013 12:35 PM (gBUvl)
I'm sure the criminals will cooperate too. Yeah, right. It would be a blood bath if they went into the barrio to get the weapons.
Posted by: pj at January 28, 2013 12:38 PM (ZWaLo)
Occasionally, they would have a free admission day at the zoo. Well, we made the HUGE mistake of going one year when a friend of mine was in town visiting.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at January 28, 2013 03:38 PM (vg8iE)
My family and I went to the last day of the SD county fair, and rather than going to visit the zoo, it was as if the zoo came to visit us.
It looked like the bar scene from Star Wars. All manner of tatted up Third World gang banger types were in evidence, with not a single baseball hat on the right way around.
On having to pass through a metal detector to get in I felt a bit uneasy, but once I saw the clientele, I was actually glad.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 12:39 PM (IDSI7)
Guns should renamed Gays, so that the Democrats will have to get everyone a Gun, I mean a Gay
Great idea. We could paint 'em pink, and then claim that gun control was an effort to oppress women and homosexuals.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 28, 2013 12:42 PM (IDSI7)
Posted by: I Callahan at January 28, 2013 12:43 PM (pTlmk)
The rules regarding the sale of the firearms in these situations are (purposefully) unclear, but what is clear is that if the firearms are not sold legally within one year of the death of the owner, the state destroys the guns, and the living spouse/family will NOT be compensated a single penny.
How do ya like me now?
Posted by: GrandeMe at January 28, 2013 12:48 PM (i0yTO)
Jolly, I know. I have several throw away pistols from various Eastern Block countries that have no history.
Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 28, 2013 01:02 PM (wR+pz)
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Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at January 28, 2013 11:00 AM (8y9MW)