July 13, 2013
— DrewM Everyone is in FREAK OUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN MODE? because the Zimmerman jury sent a note to the judge saying, "“May we please have clarification on instructions regarding manslaughter?”
Everyone thinks that means Murder 2 is off the table.
Beyond that, everyone is talking out their ass.
The definition of justified homicide is part of the Manslaughter instruction (pdf).
Sounds like everyone agrees the reply will be something like, "Um, what the hell do you want to know?"
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Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 13, 2013 02:43 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 02:44 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Flyguy at July 13, 2013 02:44 PM (BeFHp)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 02:44 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 02:45 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 02:45 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 13, 2013 02:45 PM (Vjplh)
Posted by: Vendette at July 13, 2013 02:45 PM (yrR4Z)
Wow, look around, lots of comfort, skylights, cathedral ceilings, shrimp lobster, .....this thread is nice.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 13, 2013 02:46 PM (4+FWp)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at July 13, 2013 02:46 PM (6LImX)
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at July 13, 2013 02:46 PM (o5q2C)
Posted by: Adam at July 13, 2013 02:46 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Ma Bell at July 13, 2013 02:46 PM (RLdcX)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 13, 2013 02:46 PM (9+ccr)
What are the parameters for a jury. I thought they were only allowed to consider the charges put before them. This guy made it sound very different from that.
Posted by: caustic at July 13, 2013 02:47 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 02:47 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Vendette at July 13, 2013 02:47 PM (yrR4Z)
Posted by: Liberty Valance at July 13, 2013 02:47 PM (LxRVI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 02:47 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2013 02:47 PM (8sCoq)
Thanks!!
Posted by: eureka! at July 13, 2013 02:47 PM (d0OqS)
Yow! How to tantalize us!
Posted by: Dianna at July 13, 2013 02:48 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 02:49 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 13, 2013 02:49 PM (9+ccr)
My best professional interpretation? The fuck if I know what the jury is going to do.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at July 13, 2013 02:49 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 13, 2013 02:49 PM (9+ccr)
Purp posted a thread that had a few comments than disappeared in favor of this one.
I blame the Nutmegger Cabal.
Posted by: garrett at July 13, 2013 02:49 PM (kpHF7)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 02:50 PM (lm0Rv)
Posted by: rd at July 13, 2013 02:50 PM (D+lxs)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 13, 2013 02:50 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 02:50 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at July 13, 2013 02:50 PM (6LImX)
Posted by: Dianna at July 13, 2013 02:50 PM (mKMj1)
>>> My best professional interpretation? The fuck if I know what the jury is going to do.
And tat's any old jury.
This is a jury made up of exclusively women!
Posted by: garrett at July 13, 2013 02:51 PM (kpHF7)
12 Lord. Have I taken too much Percocet or did the new thread disappear?
You've got Percocet, Tammy?
Got enough to share with the other kids?
Posted by: wheatie at July 13, 2013 02:51 PM (oBreQ)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 13, 2013 02:51 PM (X4HxX)
Posted by: rd at July 13, 2013 02:51 PM (D+lxs)
Posted by: Jmel at July 13, 2013 02:52 PM (cfFqn)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 13, 2013 02:52 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: zsasz at July 13, 2013 02:52 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Beto at July 13, 2013 02:52 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 02:52 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Dianna at July 13, 2013 02:52 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 13, 2013 02:53 PM (X4HxX)
Hung jury + followed by riots which are widely covered
= everyone gets an opinion
= no retrial
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2013 02:53 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at July 13, 2013 02:53 PM (6LImX)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 02:54 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 13, 2013 02:54 PM (DoZD+)
Asian Cookout update. I went with Bulgogi, will maybe make an asian slaw if I have time. Just finished the marinade OMG its so good I could just drink it down and call it a night.
Posted by: NC Ref at July 13, 2013 02:54 PM (/izg2)
There was another Thread, dammit!
Posted by: garrett at July 13, 2013 06:52 PM (kpHF7)
This has always been the thread
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2013 02:54 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 02:54 PM (jjvz+)
Once you start, you simply can't stop!
Posted by: Dianna at July 13, 2013 02:54 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 02:54 PM (Pb0zF)
"The killing of a human being is justifiable and lawful if necessarily done while resisting an attempt to murder or commit a felony upon George Zimmerman."
Simple plain english for dumb-asses who are likely to end up on the jury.
Asking questions about any thing beyond that point either means the jury is deliberately wasting people's time or decided nobody committed a felony upon GZ.
Posted by: Obamao at July 13, 2013 02:55 PM (e+pdj)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 02:55 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 13, 2013 02:55 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Jake in ID-aquavit at July 13, 2013 02:55 PM (6LImX)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 02:55 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 13, 2013 02:55 PM (GbxyR)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at July 13, 2013 02:55 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 02:56 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Blacksheep at July 13, 2013 02:56 PM (bS6uW)
Posted by: Shark Cracka! at July 13, 2013 02:56 PM (cjFRv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 02:56 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 02:56 PM (lm0Rv)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 02:56 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 13, 2013 02:56 PM (0MVzQ)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2013 02:57 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Dianna at July 13, 2013 02:57 PM (mKMj1)
Well she was an FBI agent who worked civil rights cases. And we're talking modern day civil rights cases, not ones from the 60's.
Posted by: Adam at July 13, 2013 02:57 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 13, 2013 02:57 PM (xSegX)
Posted by: garrett at July 13, 2013 02:57 PM (kpHF7)
Posted by: Bawney Fwank at July 13, 2013 02:57 PM (X4HxX)
Posted by: Connor McCloud of the Clan McCloud at July 13, 2013 02:58 PM (6LImX)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 13, 2013 02:58 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 02:58 PM (lm0Rv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 02:58 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 13, 2013 02:58 PM (xSegX)
Posted by: Raquel at July 13, 2013 02:58 PM (eTqV5)
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2013 02:58 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: eureka! at July 13, 2013 02:59 PM (d0OqS)
Still, it's better to be outside prison.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 06:55 PM (+98Gb)
My wife and I were talking about this last night. If GZ is acquitted or there is a hung jury and no retrial, what does he do to ensure the safety of himself and his family for the rest of their lives? If they change their names and/or move to another part of the country (or even out of the country), someone will figure out their new names or where they now live. It's the one time it would be preferable to be put into the Witness Protection Program, as the government would create a completely new identity for you. But, of course, you could never see your friends or family again.
Posted by: Slappy at July 13, 2013 02:59 PM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Blacksheep at July 13, 2013 02:59 PM (bS6uW)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 02:59 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 02:59 PM (+98Gb)
Oh, you can riot
On a Monday, a Monday
A Monday is very, very good
Or you can riot on a Tuesday
A Tuesday, a Tuesday
In fact, I wish you would
Or you can riot
On a Wednesday, a Thursday
A Friday and Saturday is best
But never, never on a Sunday
A Sunday, a Sunday
Cause that's my day of rest
Posted by: zombie Cole Porter at July 13, 2013 02:59 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 13, 2013 02:59 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 02:59 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 02:59 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at July 13, 2013 03:00 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Jake at July 13, 2013 03:00 PM (6LImX)
Posted by: Jmel at July 13, 2013 03:00 PM (cfFqn)
Someone on the other thread mentioned 'Riots by Hispanics if Zimmerman is convicted'.
Has there been any hints that this might happen?
And is it wrong of me to wish this would happen?
Posted by: wheatie at July 13, 2013 03:00 PM (oBreQ)
so
full day one of SIL
she has told me what to do for my Asperger son
She has told me what Ramadan is like in Turkey (I lived there, she has never been there)
she wants to buy pink tennis shoes like Wendy whats her name the pro-baby stabber
held in check, finding my calm, staying centered
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 03:00 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 13, 2013 03:00 PM (GbxyR)
Posted by: Beto at July 13, 2013 03:00 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 03:00 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 03:00 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 13, 2013 03:00 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 13, 2013 03:00 PM (mCNwt)
Phone and tablet browsers were written by the Elbonians and don't have skip to end of page controls. Anything that starts to get long becomes an issue.
Posted by: Purp at July 13, 2013 06:56 PM (lm0Rv)
Do they have any useable controls?
Posted by: rd at July 13, 2013 03:00 PM (D+lxs)
1
Posted by: Connor McCloud of the Clan McCloud at July 13, 2013 06:58 PM (6LImX)
Unh huh.
It wasn't you, buddy
Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2013 03:01 PM (hO9ad)
OK, I'm off to my gig a scant four blocks from the Seminole County courthouse.
Pray for me. And my drums.
I'll check back in when I get back with a first hand report. Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Double-Naught International Cat Speculator at July 13, 2013 03:01 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: forest at July 13, 2013 03:01 PM (stMuz)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 03:01 PM (lm0Rv)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 13, 2013 03:01 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at July 13, 2013 03:01 PM (2o9a+)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 03:01 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 13, 2013 03:01 PM (4XER9)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 13, 2013 03:01 PM (j9/Ud)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 07:00 PM (jjvz+)
I hope and pray you are correct.
Posted by: rd at July 13, 2013 03:02 PM (D+lxs)
Posted by: spypeach at July 13, 2013 03:02 PM (0n1+D)
BB check in with us OK? be careful
prolly get a bunch of reporters in the crowd
let us know if you see Jerry Rivers
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 03:02 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 03:02 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Jake at July 13, 2013 03:02 PM (6LImX)
Posted by: Willaim Eaton at July 13, 2013 03:02 PM (foNIV)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 03:03 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 13, 2013 03:03 PM (QupBk)
>>> Apparently they've passed a note ordering dinner now. What's it mean? What's it mean?
Hold the pickles.
Posted by: garrett at July 13, 2013 03:03 PM (kpHF7)
Posted by: UWP at July 13, 2013 03:03 PM (r98SZ)
Well yea, that too.
Usability testing by: Torquemada Labs Inc.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 03:03 PM (lm0Rv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 03:03 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: MoeRon at July 13, 2013 03:03 PM (oLvLT)
123
OK, I'm off to my gig a scant four blocks from the Seminole County courthouse.
Woah.
Stay safe, BackwardsBoy.
Posted by: wheatie at July 13, 2013 03:03 PM (oBreQ)
At this point I'll take it!
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 13, 2013 06:49 PM (9+ccr)
Best outcome?
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at July 13, 2013 03:04 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 13, 2013 03:04 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 13, 2013 03:04 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Double-Naught International Cat Speculator at July 13, 2013 03:04 PM (0HooB)
the fight because Z had his gun out when he approached and basically
just shot TM dead
Then Zombie Trayvon beat his head against the ground and broke his nose.
Posted by: zsasz at July 13, 2013 03:04 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Peaches at July 13, 2013 03:04 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Double-Naught International Cat Speculator at July 13, 2013 07:01 PM (0HooB)
How full is the protest area? you may need an aerial view?
Posted by: rd at July 13, 2013 03:04 PM (D+lxs)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at July 13, 2013 03:04 PM (Sptt8)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 13, 2013 03:05 PM (X4HxX)
Posted by: MTF at July 13, 2013 03:05 PM (8V4jN)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at July 13, 2013 03:05 PM (GbxyR)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 03:05 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Beto at July 13, 2013 03:05 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at July 13, 2013 03:07 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 03:07 PM (Pb0zF)
I set up some errands for this afternoon, but she wanted to come with
Ima have a beer or two tonight, and the tomorrow Ima be really busy n stuff
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 03:07 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Peaches at July 13, 2013 03:07 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: NTSB at July 13, 2013 03:08 PM (yK4z+)
Well, it couldn't be murder AND manslaughter, so...
Posted by: zsasz at July 13, 2013 03:08 PM (MMC8r)
And of course the NSA and IRS would NEVER let that info get out...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 07:00 PM (+98Gb)
There is that fear, but I think Witness Protection details are kept under wraps by the government (as least based on my conversations with a friend of mine who works for a certain government agency involved in that area). After all, think of the problems it could cause the government with future cases if witnesses thought that their new identity and location could be leaked? The government wouldn't be able to prosecute various cases in which they needed the cooperation of certain witnesses. The government may not use the Witness Protection Program that often, but if they lose it completely as an option, it could cause serious problems.
Posted by: Slappy at July 13, 2013 03:08 PM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 03:09 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 13, 2013 03:09 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: eleven at July 13, 2013 03:09 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: waldo at July 13, 2013 03:09 PM (cjFRv)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 03:09 PM (jjvz+)
But it's always time for fucking jell-o.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at July 13, 2013 03:09 PM (pgQxn)
Posted by: Blacksheep at July 13, 2013 03:10 PM (bS6uW)
Posted by: Madamex at July 13, 2013 03:10 PM (Tj05I)
Posted by: Baron Davis at July 13, 2013 03:11 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Dianna at July 13, 2013 03:11 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 03:11 PM (zOTsN)
Chomp up and wash down (4) generic 200's is my standard play when shit really hurts. Nasty tasting stuff to chew, but it won't rot your stomach that way and kicks in faster.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 03:11 PM (lm0Rv)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 03:12 PM (Pb0zF)
You haven't seen the hung jury.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at July 13, 2013 03:12 PM (pgQxn)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 13, 2013 07:01 PM (j9/Ud)
Find the other agent. Kick his testicles up between his shoulder blades.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at July 13, 2013 03:12 PM (ial2b)
I start at 10
Posted by: Jones in CO at July 13, 2013 03:12 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Madamex at July 13, 2013 07:10 PM (Tj05I)
Yeah, "on juries."
Posted by: Slappy at July 13, 2013 03:12 PM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Blacksheep at July 13, 2013 03:12 PM (bS6uW)
Posted by: Raquel at July 13, 2013 03:12 PM (eTqV5)
114 so
full day one of SIL ...
held in check, finding my calm, staying centered
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 07:00 PM (zOTsN)
----------
Being polite with a Liberal only means that you will get more of their bullshit.
They take it as 'consent' to what they're spewing.
If you go off on them, every time they start in with you...then they will start backing off and avoid you.
Posted by: wheatie at July 13, 2013 03:13 PM (oBreQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 03:13 PM (jjvz+)
Yes, yes we have! Please come join the discussion!
Posted by: The Daily Kos at July 13, 2013 03:13 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Baron Davis at July 13, 2013 03:14 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Madamex at July 13, 2013 03:14 PM (Tj05I)
Christopher Heath þ@CHeathWFTV 9m
Has anyone considered when #Zimmermanon9 fired the gun it recoiled and came back and broke his nose.
This queef has never fired a gun.
Posted by: garrett at July 13, 2013 03:14 PM (kpHF7)
Mmmm mm mmmm
I'm thinkin' a 42" Samsung and a new pair o LeBron Nikes
an sum Kools for Shaniqua....
Posted by: Rioting Chimpanzee at July 13, 2013 03:14 PM (baF46)
Posted by: Beto the White Hispanic at July 13, 2013 03:14 PM (MhA4j)
Only imbeciles who have never fired a gun and know nothing about firearms would entertain that notion.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 03:15 PM (lm0Rv)
Posted by: AmishDude at July 13, 2013 03:15 PM (xSegX)
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at July 13, 2013 03:15 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: P. Scandal Like Us at July 13, 2013 03:15 PM (Gaic4)
Is that tweet for real? And if it is, does dumbass reporter know that the prosecution never put forth that as a theory of how Zimmerman got his injuries?
Posted by: Slappy at July 13, 2013 03:15 PM (LTbLf)
Posted by: waldo at July 13, 2013 03:16 PM (cjFRv)
Posted by: Willaim Eaton at July 13, 2013 03:16 PM (foNIV)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 13, 2013 03:16 PM (X4HxX)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 13, 2013 03:16 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: Dianna at July 13, 2013 07:11 PM (mKMj1)
Oh, honey, that is most of what they do!!! Between drinks, of course!!
Posted by: Peaches at July 13, 2013 03:16 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Beto the White Hispanic at July 13, 2013 03:17 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: spypeach at July 13, 2013 03:17 PM (0n1+D)
Yea, that's always kind of clue that its a pretty dumb theory.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 03:17 PM (lm0Rv)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 03:18 PM (jjvz+)
shes my hubbies twin. It makes it tough to ream her ass.
Yesterday she wanted to tell me what she found on line when she googled my 17 years olds name, in front of his little sister, and I told her to stop, she was crossing a line.
Today at lunch, she wanted to discuss if my son was having sex with his girlfriend, again in front of his 13 year old sister, my daughter.
ARGHHHHH
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 03:18 PM (zOTsN)
I'd sooner have work done on my crown tooth than go there. May have to tomorrow, there's a baseball game my son's in and its on the way.
Oh and could you fix the recoil starter on a leafblower someone left them, so they can sell it and pocket some money.
Posted by: Bill sometimes Bill from Canada at July 13, 2013 03:18 PM (vnmRc)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 03:19 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: spypeach at July 13, 2013 03:19 PM (0n1+D)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 03:19 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 03:19 PM (wR+pz)
When he's ready to try again I got a 45-70 handgun for him.
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at July 13, 2013 03:19 PM (kxSZr)
117 102 It's the one time it would be preferable to be put into the Witness Protection Program, as the government would create a completely new identity for you. But, of course, you could never see your friends or family again.
Posted by: Slappy at July 13, 2013 06:59 PM (LTbLf)
And of course the NSA and IRS would NEVER let that info get out...
Of course the main reason GZ won't be put into the witness protection program is that it is the government that is out to fry his ass. The government only puts someone in the WPP is they help them fry someone else. If you somehow manage to beat the government in court, they don't particularly care what happens to you afterwards.
Posted by: TanarUr at July 13, 2013 03:20 PM (S4N/h)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 03:20 PM (Pb0zF)
***
-it's not so bad in there
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
You just whistle a snappy tune and think of cookouts.
Posted by: Slapweasel at July 13, 2013 03:21 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 03:21 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Dianna at July 13, 2013 03:21 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 03:21 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 07:18 PM (jjvz+)
I don't. I don't think this should have ever been prosecuted. But the law is this administration's bitch now, right up to the Supreme's, so we're in uncharted waters. {spits}
Posted by: Peaches at July 13, 2013 03:21 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 03:21 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Adam at July 13, 2013 03:22 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 07:20 PM (Pb0zF)
I have one knee that is bone on bone. Celebrex, on a really bad day, is like a miracle, but I only take it "as needed." For dental pain, I swear by ibuprofen, which I don't take for anything else. I'm an aleve girl at heart. Celebrex is also really fuckin' pricey, which is why I only take it when I am in extremis.
Posted by: Peaches at July 13, 2013 03:23 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Dianna at July 13, 2013 03:23 PM (mKMj1)
The only thing to be found in the barrel is shame.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 13, 2013 03:23 PM (jGsIV)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 03:24 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: rickl at July 13, 2013 03:24 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 03:24 PM (wR+pz)
It seems like common sense after reading the instructions as a whole that since self-defense prevents a conviction on either charge, they should consider it first. I certainly wish the instructions were written that way. But they are not......
.....
A literal reading of the instructions says: First first decide if GZ killed TM. If yes, then consider the circumstances and decide if it is Murder 2, Manslaughter or whether the killing was excusable or resulted from the justifiable use of deadly force.
The instructions refer to Justifiable Use of Force early on, but they donÂ’t instruct how to decide the issue of Justifiable Use of Force until page 12, which is after the Murder 2 and Manslaughter instructionsPosted by: willow at July 13, 2013 03:24 PM (Jy4tI)
Posted by: mpfs at July 13, 2013 03:24 PM (vWq5h)
Posted by: Willaim Eaton at July 13, 2013 03:24 PM (foNIV)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 03:24 PM (V1ZIU)
224 shes my hubbies twin. It makes it tough to ream her ass.
Hey, thunderb....newsflash...you're allowed to be offended.
Especially in your own home.
If you don't want to confront her, then make it your hubby's problem.
Tell him if he doesn't reign her in...then you're going to punch her.
You have the right to object to her behavior.
You have the right to be offended by it.
You have the right to be very verbal about it.
Posted by: wheatie at July 13, 2013 03:24 PM (oBreQ)
Posted by: Victimman, The Most Powerful Victim in the Universe! at July 13, 2013 03:25 PM (ZR4Xh)
105 "103 Who the hell would impregnate Susan Estrich? Dear God, what a skank ... and that voice, sounds like the smoking commercial with the old person talking out of a hole in their trachea.
Posted by: Blacksheep at July 13, 2013 06:59 PM (bS6uW)
A laryngial cloaca?
I'd hit it. "
So.. You ever get freaky with that thing?
Posted by: Captain Glenn Quagmire at July 13, 2013 03:25 PM (Z977b)
Posted by: Soona at July 13, 2013 03:25 PM (oSsMU)
Posted by: toby928© retweets at July 13, 2013 03:25 PM (QupBk)
Thunderb, any chance you could just tell her the truth.
'You know sis, you're family and that's the only reason you're here. I understand that feel you have something important to say about everything but honestly, you are a bore and an obnoxious, pretentious one at that."
Then offer to put her up at the Motel 6 in Sharpstown for the duration.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 13, 2013 03:26 PM (waJ+2)
Posted by: Raquel at July 13, 2013 03:26 PM (eTqV5)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 03:26 PM (wR+pz)
And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. The reasoning capacities on display of the journalistic "professionals" who every day tell America what the news is.
Oh! And we can't forget the layers of fact-checkers and editors, too.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 13, 2013 03:27 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 03:27 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Chris Heath at July 13, 2013 03:28 PM (Aif/5)
The gun recoiling and getting him in the nose is almost sensible, in contrast.
Posted by: Dianna at July 13, 2013 03:28 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at July 13, 2013 03:28 PM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: zsasz at July 13, 2013 03:29 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 03:29 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 03:30 PM (Pb0zF)
The instructions refer to Justifiable Use of Force early on, but they
donÂ’t instruct how to decide the issue of Justifiable Use of Force
until page 12, which is after the Murder 2 and Manslaughter instructions
Posted by: willow at July 13, 2013 07:24 PM (Jy4tI)
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Ya' know. This could be the reason they're taking so long. They're reading and trying to define the instructions. If there's page 12, this is a long and tedious set of instuctions. It only takes one, not understanding what's being instructed, to hold everything up.
Posted by: Soona at July 13, 2013 03:30 PM (oSsMU)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 03:30 PM (Z9EHQ)
I miss you!!!!!
Big hug.
Posted by: mpfs at July 13, 2013 07:28 PM (vWq5h)
Me, too, my friend! {{{{{}}}}} sorry about the fuckin' bus trip from hell. Can I offer you a can of cheap swill and a parlie?
Posted by: Peaches at July 13, 2013 03:31 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: tony redenzo at July 13, 2013 03:31 PM (LwRkC)
Posted by: soothie at July 13, 2013 03:31 PM (yVBJI)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 03:31 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Dianna at July 13, 2013 03:31 PM (mKMj1)
Ya' know. This could be the reason they're taking so long. They're reading and trying to define the instructions. If there's page 12, this is a long and tedious set of instuctions. It only takes one, not understanding what's being instructed, to hold everything up.
Women!
Men never read the instructions.
Posted by: zsasz at July 13, 2013 03:32 PM (MMC8r)
unbelievable...
no wait...yeah, totally believable.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 13, 2013 03:32 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 03:32 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: GatorGirl at July 13, 2013 03:32 PM (v0rMe)
That's what I'd read into the earlier commentary on Fox. Greg Jarret said... "They seem to be going through the instructions one-by-one, issuing questions subsequently."
Posted by: Slapweasel at July 13, 2013 03:34 PM (lq3Ak)
"Sharpstown
love you guys. You are right."
There's probably a Dollar General or a WalMart where she can buy one of the Molon Labe t-shirts with the tampon and some pink shoes.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 13, 2013 03:34 PM (LP0Fj)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 13, 2013 03:34 PM (yh0zB)
Men never read the instructions.
Posted by: zsasz at July 13, 2013 07:32 PM (MMC8r)
--------------------------------------------
Yup. Hung up on the details, as women generally do. AND then they have to talk about each one. This could go on for months.
Posted by: Soona at July 13, 2013 03:35 PM (oSsMU)
At which point he became a child predator according to a caller to a local talk show.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 13, 2013 03:35 PM (tb0Jd)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 13, 2013 03:35 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: GatorGirl at July 13, 2013 07:32 PM (v0rMe)
Well, normally, sure, GG. But what about that special prosecutor stuff? Just bullshit?
Posted by: Peaches at July 13, 2013 03:35 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Raquel at July 13, 2013 03:35 PM (eTqV5)
the GZ trial
they are gonna decide tonight. Because in stead of ordering in dinner, they would ask to adjourn. They didn't. They are close. They are gonna decide and then get out of town tomorrow (or tonight). That's my guess. I heard they have been asked to postpone announcing the verdict until Monday so LE can deal with the rioters. I don't think the judge would do that because the jurors would be sequestered for another day.
Question, what is the juror with 8 kids who works in a nursing home doing for childcare when she is sequestered for so long?
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 03:35 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 03:35 PM (V1ZIU)
"If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony."
I find myself confused here in that Florida law seems to allow a self-defense claim but also allows the Stand Your Ground claim, and this instruction has wording reminiscent of SYG, the "no duty to retreat".
Except that SYG isn't really applicable in a situation where retreat isn't physically possible. This was STG, Stuck To Ground. The Zimmerman defense team didn't invoke SYG. They did invoke self-defense. So why the SYG wording in the instructions?
Posted by: torquewrench at July 13, 2013 03:35 PM (gqT4g)
jeeze i've become really cynical
Posted by: willow at July 13, 2013 03:36 PM (Jy4tI)
Posted by: waldo at July 13, 2013 03:36 PM (cjFRv)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 03:36 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: George Orwell half in the bag at July 13, 2013 03:36 PM (mCNwt)
Posted by: UWP at July 13, 2013 03:36 PM (r98SZ)
288...This could go on for months.
If it goes on for a few more days...then at least the NAACP convention will be over.
So there's that.
Posted by: wheatie at July 13, 2013 03:36 PM (oBreQ)
Posted by: Beto at July 13, 2013 07:05 PM (MhA4j)
A pet rock, but it ran away.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 13, 2013 03:36 PM (yh0zB)
I don't think we'll see the verdict before Monday.
Posted by: Dianna at July 13, 2013 03:37 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: willow at July 13, 2013 03:37 PM (Jy4tI)
Posted by: UWP at July 13, 2013 03:37 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: Willaim Eaton at July 13, 2013 03:38 PM (foNIV)
Florida has a nominally Republican governor am I right? Fuck Florida. I'm at that age where I'm shopping retirement destinations and Florida is way down on the list below a number of genuine banana republics.
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at July 13, 2013 03:38 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 07:35 PM (V1ZIU)
Actually we did, and it ran beautifully...for about 5 minutes, then started choking and sputtering, blowing blue smoke the whole time. I think the valve seals are completely gone and the oil fouled the plugs, but the theory has also been floated that it has sticking rings. It's going to a real mechanic for a compression check next week, us amateurs have done all the damage we can do.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 13, 2013 03:38 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Beto the White Hispanic at July 13, 2013 03:39 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 03:40 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: spypeach at July 13, 2013 03:40 PM (0n1+D)
Posted by: The NSA at July 13, 2013 03:40 PM (6LImX)
Posted by: Arbalest at July 13, 2013 03:40 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 03:40 PM (V1ZIU)
and saved a bundle on price and monthly operating. SEER depends a lot on install and the house insulation etc.His attic is hotter than hades, no vents. So his bill is probably just the same as before.
Most installs years ago were far too large tonnage. The way to check is , on the hottest midsummer day the a/c should not shutoff at all in the afternoon and might even let the house heat up inside a few degrees. It will keep the humidity down running that much. If it shuts off for any length of time that day it is way oversized.
Posted by: Bill sometimes Bill from Canada at July 13, 2013 03:40 PM (vnmRc)
Posted by: zsasz at July 13, 2013 03:42 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 13, 2013 03:43 PM (X9Mnx)
Unlike many states, FL has a relatively weak'ish generally ineffectual state govt though. The real power centers in FL are at the county level.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 03:44 PM (lm0Rv)
I admit to not watching this thing real close, but even the daily headlines across the net tell a pretty consistent story of what happened.
GZ was "on duty", saw the guy, called the cops, lost track of him for 4 minutes while TM told Jenteal he was gonna jump a creepy ass cracker, GZ got jumped and pounded on, other people see that happening, GZ shoots him.
Both side's testimony say the same thing, not the lawyers, but the witnesses. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 13, 2013 03:44 PM (4+FWp)
Posted by: Beto the White Hispanic at July 13, 2013 07:39 PM (MhA4j)
Top. Men.
I wish my AC was too much tonnage. It gets hotter than hades (defined as at least 10 degrees above setpoint) in the house during the hot summer days and the AC never shuts off until the sun goes down. Temp at the vents are in spec and it's putting out the right amount of air, but I have a huge open space that is harder than hell to heat in the winter and cool in the summer.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 13, 2013 03:45 PM (yh0zB)
But the jury instructions here say, "If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be", which implies that if the jurors believed GZ had attacked TM then GZ would be denied a self-defense claim.
So that seems inconsistent.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 13, 2013 03:45 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: UWP at July 13, 2013 03:45 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: you know a juror is thinking this at July 13, 2013 03:45 PM (GbxyR)
Posted by: The NSA at July 13, 2013 03:45 PM (6LImX)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 13, 2013 07:44 PM (4+FWp)
It was a local local case going to the "ignore" pile until the cast of usual suspects (Sharpton, Jackson, et al) got wind of it.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 13, 2013 03:46 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 13, 2013 03:47 PM (X4HxX)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 13, 2013 03:47 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 13, 2013 03:47 PM (X9Mnx)
there is a concept called "jury nullification", where a jury can, in spite of the law, refuse to convict someone even if it was legally justified
it is illegal to instruct them they can do that, you cant argue it, but they can
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 03:48 PM (zOTsN)
Later roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 13, 2013 03:48 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Beto the White Hispanic at July 13, 2013 03:49 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Bill sometimes Bill from Canada at July 13, 2013 03:50 PM (vnmRc)
...out of principle, dammit. It's just the damned principle.
Posted by: Slapweasel at July 13, 2013 03:50 PM (lq3Ak)
Posted by: GatorGirl at July 13, 2013 03:51 PM (v0rMe)
Posted by: spypeach at July 13, 2013 03:51 PM (0n1+D)
Posted by: waldo at July 13, 2013 03:51 PM (cjFRv)
Posted by: gracepmc at July 13, 2013 03:51 PM (rznx3)
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 03:52 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at July 13, 2013 03:52 PM (yK4z+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 03:52 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 13, 2013 03:53 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at July 13, 2013 03:53 PM (LxRVI)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 03:53 PM (+98Gb)
Let the mechanic do the compression test, and a leak-down test, then go from there.
Rislone is just a bandade, you use to sell a lemon. It works long enough to stop the smoking etc, but it does NOT repair it, and will eventually clog the oil galleys etc making the problem worse. Especially if its got a broken ring. You don't wan't that to sieze up, because then you'll be buying a new shortblock!
Good luck!
Posted by: JarvisW at July 13, 2013 03:53 PM (E7Iyp)
How well did he finish among the Democrats?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 13, 2013 03:54 PM (BeSEI)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 13, 2013 03:54 PM (X4HxX)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 03:55 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 13, 2013 03:55 PM (X4HxX)
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at July 13, 2013 03:55 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 03:55 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Raquel at July 13, 2013 03:57 PM (eTqV5)
Posted by: Bill sometimes Bill from Canada at July 13, 2013 03:57 PM (vnmRc)
Posted by: waldo at July 13, 2013 03:57 PM (cjFRv)
No, I think what has been decided is the Iowa crazies who were for Daddy Paul transferred to the son.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 13, 2013 03:57 PM (BeSEI)
Posted by: spypeach at July 13, 2013 03:58 PM (0n1+D)
The kind of brilliant decision-making that got Trayvon a hole in his chest.
Posted by: zsasz at July 13, 2013 03:58 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: spypeach at July 13, 2013 07:51 PM (0n1+D)
Am I a bad person for hesitating about plans to head out to Arundel Mills Muvico tonight to see "Kevin Hart: Let Me Explain"?
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 13, 2013 03:59 PM (UOjzE)
does the IT guy who got fired for revealing the prosecution was hiding exculpatory evidence from the defense have whistle blower protection?
wont he have a suit against Corey and the State of Florida?
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 03:59 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: soothie at July 13, 2013 03:59 PM (OZ9Xn)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 03:59 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Concealedkerry or Submitt at July 13, 2013 04:00 PM (uUXp6)
As far as Seafoam, if done right it can clean out the lines, but I wouldn't use it directly in the intake like some like to do. (or the oil) Just put it in the gas tank.
Also, drain all the old gas, and put some treated gas in (4-5 gal or so). Then I'd drain that too. That stinkin corn-y gas we have to use really turns to crap quickly, so its not good to burn that, or even send it thru the lines.
Change the fuel filter, and maybe again in 500 mi or so.
As far as oil in the plugs. Thats a good thing to do, as you wont be dry starting is as much as it would have been. Change the oil and plugs while you're there too.
Posted by: JarvisW at July 13, 2013 04:00 PM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: UWP at July 13, 2013 04:00 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 04:00 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Ernie McCracken at July 13, 2013 04:01 PM (ZETiK)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:01 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 04:01 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 04:02 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: gracepmc at July 13, 2013 07:51 PM (rznx3)
___
The irony of his being set up seems to have escaped the civil rights contingency. You know, how he's being railroaded and the deck has been stacked against him from the governor's office on down - just because of one half of his DNA.
You know, like used to happen to black people all the time until the marches and MLK and constitutional amendments and such.
Posted by: kallisto at July 13, 2013 04:02 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: soothie at July 13, 2013 04:02 PM (SljXf)
Posted by: spypeach at July 13, 2013 04:03 PM (0n1+D)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 04:03 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:04 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 13, 2013 04:04 PM (Vjplh)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 04:04 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:05 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 04:05 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: waldo at July 13, 2013 04:05 PM (cjFRv)
Does anyone know if there is a database that records medals awarded in a combat zone?
Posted by: kallisto at July 13, 2013 04:05 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: NBC Cameras Assembled All Across Miami at July 13, 2013 04:05 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 13, 2013 04:06 PM (ZshNr)
Facebook, that wonderful invention.
Not long after Zimmerman was first charged, a lefty acquaintance brought up the case and said, apropos of nothing, "Oh, yeah, and the stalker nut case who shot that little kid for no reason? Total, total Tea Party guy. Went to all their rallies."
Total, total nonsense, of course, but people like this get all of their "news" from Facebook and Twitter, which are just infinite echo chambers of gossipy bullshit.
This fellow thinks of himself as being exceptionally well informed. Not like those ignorant rubes, you understand. He's _wired in_ to what is hip and happening.
Posted by: torquewrench at July 13, 2013 04:06 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 04:06 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:06 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 04:06 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Bill sometimes Bill from Canada at July 13, 2013 04:07 PM (vnmRc)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at July 13, 2013 07:47 PM (X4HxX)
Only 1 pt ahead of Cruz despite higher name ID.
If they'd been polling Cruz earlier he'd probably show the biggest gain. He'd have been down there in low single digits a few months ago.
Posted by: Jon (not the troll) at July 13, 2013 04:08 PM (2MMkb)
Posted by: lowandslow at July 13, 2013 04:08 PM (Fz2C7)
Posted by: soothie at July 13, 2013 04:08 PM (yVBJI)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:09 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking Radlers at July 13, 2013 04:10 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 08:06 PM (+98Gb)
___
I realized after I posted that this may not be the right thread to discuss this - a friend revealed he was awarded a Bronze Star but seems reluctant to talk about it, so I didn't press. I figured the citation lives somewhere on the interwebs.
Or I could just impose on a family member who has connections to military brass due to govt. service.
Posted by: kallisto at July 13, 2013 04:10 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:10 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 04:10 PM (Z9EHQ)
Don't trust Rubio. At this point I don't trust any politician. I don't think there is anyone out there right now that can stem the tide of our idiocy, which will eventually lead to our crashing and burning.
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 13, 2013 04:10 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 13, 2013 04:10 PM (ZshNr)
***
No.
You're a bad person for going to see Kevin Hart: Let Me Explain.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 08:00 PM (jjvz+)
In all seriousness, the movie I'm tying to get out and see is Pacific Rim, but I thought "Let Me Explain" would tweak the joke. Arundel Mills is halfway between Columbia, MD and Annapolis, where my brother is and the only one who might go see Pacific Rim. Mom thinks it looks bad. Arundel Mills is also close to Baltimore, City.
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 13, 2013 04:10 PM (UOjzE)
Posted by: Ian S. at July 13, 2013 04:11 PM (W9Qyw)
OT:
Spaghetti has a better mouth-feel than linguine.
Discuss.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 07:55 PM (+98Gb)
I disagree, a beautiful linguine with a home made fresh shrimp marinara is next to eating a little piece of heaven.
Posted by: caustic at July 13, 2013 04:11 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 04:11 PM (zOTsN)
Let me be in charge of riot control. Just the thought of whispering the word riot down a hole will cause loosening of bowels.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 13, 2013 04:11 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 13, 2013 08:10 PM (ZshNr)
___
thanks, Linc. I figured someone who frequents this smart military blog would be able to point me in the right direction.
Posted by: kallisto at July 13, 2013 04:12 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:12 PM (+98Gb)
are you sitting down?
...a Quintuple Baconator.
It's really only impressive depending on what's on the side, and what you're washing it down with.
And preferably, whatever you're washing it down with needs something to wash it down with.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at July 13, 2013 04:12 PM (pgQxn)
The gas we are forced to use (thanks idiot Repubs) has that ethanol in it, so within about 6 months, its almost useless. Adding stabil before that happens should fix it. My dads car sat for almost 4 yrs, and we had put that in there. I was able to siphon off 2 gal at a time and burn it in my car with treatment and fresh gas to fill up. We didn't touch the last gal, as it was really nasty looking. But luckily the tank was still bright and shiny inside, so we didn't need to drop the tank and have it cleaned. Phew
But don't turn the car on, or it will suck that crap up into your pump. Or if you have to, find the fuse or relay that runs it, and pull it first, or the pump may clog.
Posted by: JarvisW at July 13, 2013 04:12 PM (E7Iyp)
Pre-New Deal? At least "pre-Great Society" but possibly "pre-Obama." Because they still bitch about the 1950s as some horrible repressive hellhole--black families were more intact and black children more literate than now, despite legal segregation--and they still hate the shit out of Reagan and everyone who voted for him.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking Radlers at July 13, 2013 04:13 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:13 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: zsasz at July 13, 2013 04:14 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 08:12 PM (+98Gb)
___
what does outfit mean? He was deployed in Iraq a few years ago, so whatever that action was named, Enduring Freedom I guess.
He'll tell me sooner or later, but I could tell now is not the time. He's told me dribs and drabs of what occurred during his deployment and I listened without reacting but a lot of it was not pretty.
p.s. I vote for linguine
Posted by: kallisto at July 13, 2013 04:15 PM (jm/9g)
Being a leftist requires absolutely no work. Being anything else, like a conservative or a libertarian or what have you, requires that you think and try to find out why thinks are they way they are. It's hard work and it's not really surprising that most people don't do it.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 13, 2013 04:15 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 13, 2013 04:16 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Chicagorefugee at July 13, 2013 04:16 PM (sCsUf)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 04:16 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Ian S. at July 13, 2013 04:16 PM (W9Qyw)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 04:17 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Reggie Love at July 13, 2013 04:17 PM (c4IyR)
It could jam the ring, and then send the piston thru the wall, and then you'd have to buy a whole new block. Or spin the bearing, and you're into a crank, and possibly block too.
So, its best to just have it looked at, if you want it to last at least.
Posted by: JarvisW at July 13, 2013 04:18 PM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 04:18 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 04:18 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:18 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Weirddave at July 13, 2013 04:20 PM (aH+zP)
Posted by: lowandslow at July 13, 2013 04:20 PM (Fz2C7)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:20 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 04:20 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:20 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Soona at July 13, 2013 04:21 PM (oSsMU)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:22 PM (+98Gb)
I'm in the middle of finishing my dads 93 Honda. It has 300k on it, and was burning a quart a day! Took it to the machine shop, and he was shocked at how good it looked inside.
We should pick it up this week, but won't have it running for another month or so. Its 100deg here right now, so not much shadetree mechanic-ing goin on.
Posted by: JarvisW at July 13, 2013 04:23 PM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 08:20 PM (+98Gb)
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I guess I should understand 40s slang pretty well, Radio Classics is one of my Sirius pre-sets.
I've created a little bubble of my own reality due to my country disappearing before my very eyes. Mainly I just buy shoes now and get my hair done and listen to old-timey radio. And wonder if the Phillies will ever break .500 again.
Posted by: kallisto at July 13, 2013 04:23 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 04:24 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:25 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 04:25 PM (Pb0zF)
So is doing the radiator fluids. May want to do the thermostat too. Since they are cheap.
Also, you may want to do the brake fluid. It may be toast too. If its any kinda brown color at all, go ahead.
Posted by: JarvisW at July 13, 2013 04:25 PM (E7Iyp)
Kallisto, the Bronze Star is awarded for heroism in combat, but it's the lowest order of medal for that type of service. Which is not to say it is not praiseworthy, just that there are many of them awarded.
If your friend mentions having been awarded the Bronze Star, you could say something like "I am sure your buddies/comrades/fellow soldiers (or whomever) are grateful for what you did, and I am proud of you for your service."
You might find a willingness on his part to discuss it at that point.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 13, 2013 04:26 PM (BeSEI)
Yeah, that's made a lot more sense to me lately than it did a few years ago. :\
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, drinking Radlers at July 13, 2013 04:26 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 04:27 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 04:28 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 04:28 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:28 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 04:29 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 08:25 PM (+98Gb)
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You do have that stud pitcher, looks like Harvey is legit.
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Posted by: BurtTC at July 13, 2013 08:26 PM (BeSEI)
Thanks. I know there's stuff from his service there that's still bothering him. He drinks a lot. But it hasn't really impaired his life, so far.
Posted by: kallisto at July 13, 2013 04:29 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 04:29 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Nancy Grace at July 13, 2013 04:29 PM (Aif/5)
A canard that goes way back.
he should ask her to play the tape.
Posted by: zsasz at July 13, 2013 04:30 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: spypeach at July 13, 2013 04:30 PM (0n1+D)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 04:30 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:30 PM (+98Gb)
Breitbart said he made a point of challenging them right then and there, or else their lies would be allowed to fester and grow. If Nancy Grace didn't call the guy a liar to his face, on the air, she's complicit in the lie.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 13, 2013 04:30 PM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 04:31 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 04:31 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at July 13, 2013 04:32 PM (Vgn84)
.....the tired, overused universal truism "it is what it is" definitely will not apply.
Posted by: ontherocks at July 13, 2013 04:32 PM (ejVnf)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 04:32 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: UWP at July 13, 2013 04:32 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:33 PM (+98Gb)
Then why didn't the prosecution enter that into the record??
I swear she keeps her brain pickled in alcohol.
Posted by: zsasz at July 13, 2013 04:33 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 04:33 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 13, 2013 04:33 PM (PgNb6)
Posted by: EROWMER at July 13, 2013 04:34 PM (OONaw)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:34 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 04:34 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 04:34 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at July 13, 2013 04:35 PM (Vgn84)
It did have a problem with the door handles, but the lock is easy to click when trying to open the door, so inexperienced passengers would rip it apart trying to exit! lol. now we know to warn them before hand. (I have one also, a year younger)
We also are doing the entire car. From all the front end pieces to struts and even carpet. And just found out the rear trailing arm was worn out lol.
Replacing all the rubber with polyurethane, so he's going to think its a race car!
Posted by: JarvisW at July 13, 2013 04:35 PM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 13, 2013 04:36 PM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 04:36 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: waldo at July 13, 2013 04:36 PM (cjFRv)
People cope differently, but if alcohol is being used to numb, that's not good. Is he connected with any support? Most VA hospitals have specific programs for Iraq/Afghanistan Veterans. It might be a good idea for him to get connected soon, if he isn't already.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 13, 2013 04:37 PM (BeSEI)
Posted by: spypeach at July 13, 2013 04:37 PM (0n1+D)
Nissan. Had a Sentra that was awesome, and a Maxima that was awesome on steroids, and now a Frontier that has been less impressive but is holding up far better than my Dakota did at the same age.
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at July 13, 2013 04:38 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at July 13, 2013 08:33 PM (PgNb6)
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I'm praying for him. I've been healed by the Lord, I know that others can be as well. But I'm not under any illusions that there is a quick fix.
Posted by: kallisto at July 13, 2013 04:38 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Deety at July 13, 2013 04:38 PM (sETtQ)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at July 13, 2013 04:38 PM (9bMee)
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 04:38 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at July 13, 2013 04:39 PM (Vgn84)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 13, 2013 04:39 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 04:39 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula_51 at July 13, 2013 04:41 PM (Vgn84)
Posted by: algore at July 13, 2013 04:42 PM (ALrLs)
Posted by: Chicagorefugee at July 13, 2013 04:42 PM (sCsUf)
373 Kallisto re. Zimmerman -- irony duly noted. The damage done by this administration in terms of agitating for racial and social divide has taken us back years. This plus the progressive leftist institutional infiltration over the years, for me, does not augur well. If I were Zimmerman when/if I get out I would run for the border to anywhere outside the US.
Posted by: gracepmc at July 13, 2013 04:43 PM (rznx3)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 04:43 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: BurtTC at July 13, 2013 08:37 PM (BeSEI)
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I don't know, I"ll ask him. Thanks for the reference.
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I was addicted to Nancy Grace's show during that Jodi Arias drama. I don't get how she could be so lucid about that situation but a hundred per cent emotional and ignorant of the evidence as she is with GZ.
Unless she's harboring a lot of caucasoid guilt.
Posted by: kallisto at July 13, 2013 04:43 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: John Kerry, Sorry, I'm yachting! at July 13, 2013 04:43 PM (9bMee)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 13, 2013 04:43 PM (ZshNr)
My mother-in-law loves to watch her. My mother-in-law is a definitive Low Information Voter.
She has a picture of John F. Kennedy Jr. on her fridge in her apartment.
That has the feel of the opening of a pulp novel.
..... please continue
Posted by: ontherocks at July 13, 2013 04:43 PM (ejVnf)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 04:44 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 04:44 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: gracepmc at July 13, 2013 08:43 PM (rznx3)
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He could come to my house.
I'll just tell all the perps to come at me bros!
lolol
No really, my neighborhood is a lot of armed to the teeth crackas.
Posted by: kallisto at July 13, 2013 04:45 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 04:45 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 13, 2013 04:45 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 13, 2013 08:10 PM (UOjzE)
Not that close. Isn't that where the new casino is?
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 13, 2013 04:45 PM (jucos)
BF Barry and I love Marvelous Mystery Oil. Our relationship is no mystery even though the MSM ignores it. Tee - hee!
Posted by: Reggie Love at July 13, 2013 04:46 PM (c4IyR)
They should give you a good idea of what you can find.
Also look on Craigslist and autotrader, just to get ideas. And might get a good deal there too, tho she may want something from a dealer type, with a warranty etc.
Posted by: JarvisW at July 13, 2013 04:46 PM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 04:46 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at July 13, 2013 04:47 PM (9bMee)
Posted by: spypeach at July 13, 2013 04:47 PM (0n1+D)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 04:47 PM (jjvz+)
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He could come to my house.
I'll just tell all the perps to come at me bros!
lolol
No really, my neighborhood is a lot of armed to the teeth crackas.
Posted by: kallisto at July 13, 2013 08:45 PM (jm/9g) ****
Posted by: gracepmc at July 13, 2013 04:47 PM (rznx3)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 04:48 PM (V1ZIU)
GZ is Innocent! This was a frigging set up because of little Trayvon!
It really pisses me off. White Hispanic? I'm Polish, I never knew that my great grandparents came here from Poland too. My mother never mentioned them. One of my cousins remembers my great grandmother and she said she was a dark Pole. Should I be offended? She may have said black Pole, it was five years ago.
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 04:48 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 04:48 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 04:49 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: George Zimmerman at July 13, 2013 04:49 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 04:49 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at July 13, 2013 04:50 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Every guest on Nancy Grace's show at July 13, 2013 04:50 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: gracepmc at July 13, 2013 04:50 PM (rznx3)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 13, 2013 04:50 PM (ZshNr)
I haven't watched the Kangaroo Court, but I just read the judge added MS to the charges? isn't the prosecutor the one who makes final decision on what charges?
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 04:50 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 04:51 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 04:51 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 13, 2013 04:51 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 04:52 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: spypeach at July 13, 2013 04:52 PM (0n1+D)
Posted by: Every guest on Nancy Grace's show at July 13, 2013 04:52 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 04:52 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 13, 2013 04:53 PM (sZRSi)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 04:53 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 04:53 PM (Z9EHQ)
You can drop a rebuilt engine, rebuilt transmission, new starter, new CV joints, new brakes/struts, etc into the old Honda for less than 16.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 04:54 PM (lm0Rv)
I started young, and sometimes ruined a part or two, but it worked out in the long run by not having to pay a mechanic.
I also watch the car shows on Spike and Speed to pick up tips. You can watch most of the Spike shows on powerblock.com.
Having a large craftsman jack also really changed things.. and the creeper and stool too lol. Turning into a Sears ad)
Posted by: JarvisW at July 13, 2013 04:54 PM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 08:49 PM (Z9EHQ)
Technically, I think it should have been a Sharknami!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 13, 2013 04:54 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Every guest on Nancy Grace's show at July 13, 2013 04:55 PM (jjvz+)
I bought a 2011 Frontier after owning two Toyota trucks. Not very impressed with it. Quality doesn't seem to be there. Already had to have rough repainted. Passenger seat rattles. It's my first Nissan and probably my last.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 13, 2013 04:55 PM (Vjplh)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 04:55 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: waldo at July 13, 2013 04:56 PM (cjFRv)
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 13, 2013 04:56 PM (Vjplh)
Posted by: spypeach at July 13, 2013 04:56 PM (0n1+D)
Yes, and I was so discouraged when I realized the child had gone all the way home, some 300 yards away. Imagine my joy when he somehow, for some innocent reason, came back to THE EXACT SPOT where I happened to be walking back to my car!! Such a coincidence!!! What luck!!!!
Boom Boom, it made my day.
Posted by: World Warrior Z at July 13, 2013 04:57 PM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 04:57 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 04:57 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 04:57 PM (Z9EHQ)
That's prolly $1,000 at a dealer. Maybe $200-$350 in after market parts.
A complete aftermarket timing belt kit for my diesel Jetta is ~$350. Couple of idlers, new water pump, timing belt, another belt, etc. All the shit you should replace anyway if you got it all apart.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 04:58 PM (lm0Rv)
The machine shop mech. said our yr trans are practicly bullit proof! We are a bit wary about it, but I can get one from a junk yard for $150-200 so we aren't too worried if the old 300k one fails soon.
Posted by: JarvisW at July 13, 2013 04:58 PM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: En Raged at July 13, 2013 04:59 PM (QZvo7)
I would never be a corporatist and shop at Target but I bet waiting in line for five minutes could make a guy go postal.
Posted by: Toure Nibbles at July 13, 2013 04:59 PM (Aif/5)
George Zimmerman! - You have a wife and a job and a house, now what are you going to do? Go to DisneyWorld?!!!
Nah, I think I'll go shoot somebody and put all that at risk.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 13, 2013 05:00 PM (4+FWp)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 05:00 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 13, 2013 05:00 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 13, 2013 05:00 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:02 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 05:02 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: nayback at July 13, 2013 05:02 PM (FmWKc)
Posted by: JarvisW at July 13, 2013 05:02 PM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at July 13, 2013 05:03 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:03 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: ALH at July 13, 2013 05:04 PM (2LTPq)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 09:00 PM (Z9EHQ)
Wait until you learn her pump doesn't work.
Only someone with a heart of stone could not laugh at that.
Posted by: Bill sometimes Bill from Canada at July 13, 2013 05:05 PM (vnmRc)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:05 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 05:05 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 05:05 PM (Z9EHQ)
Basically, you're tired of looking at it and want something newer. Defects have nothing to do with it ;->
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 05:06 PM (lm0Rv)
I think it was on Insty that some cops in NYC are driving around blasting the Darth Vader theme song.
Posted by: Adam at July 13, 2013 05:07 PM (Aif/5)
some tall black guy outside the courthouse has a black t shirt with the image of GZ on it with a gun sight target superimposed over his face
they must be selling these in Sanford
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 05:07 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 05:07 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 05:08 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: waldo at July 13, 2013 05:08 PM (cjFRv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:08 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 13, 2013 05:08 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:09 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 05:09 PM (z4WKX)
I have listened to Rush Limbaugh for twenty years.
Noticed a change in his 'cadence' high to low. then low to high, in pitch and timbre.
Anyone else?
Posted by: Ratts Alley at July 13, 2013 05:09 PM (UzPwV)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 05:10 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 08:53 PM (Pb0zF)
And then say I sure hope there is video of this!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 13, 2013 05:10 PM (XdnQT)
I don't want her to get it, as I'll have to be the one fixing it! (again, and again, and again)
Posted by: Comic Book Guy at July 13, 2013 05:10 PM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 05:10 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Northernlurker at July 13, 2013 05:11 PM (BLAfs)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 05:11 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 05:11 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: FordCityKathy at July 13, 2013 05:11 PM (moC+6)
Posted by: RWC at July 13, 2013 05:12 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 05:13 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:13 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 13, 2013 05:13 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 13, 2013 05:13 PM (Vjplh)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 05:14 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 05:15 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:15 PM (qyfb5)
What does manslaughter mean?
Should I have the cobb salad?
What were we talking about again?
Posted by: lowandslow at July 13, 2013 05:15 PM (Fz2C7)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 05:16 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 05:16 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 13, 2013 05:16 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 05:17 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:17 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 13, 2013 09:15 PM (qyfb5)
Obviously we don't fully understand the depth of his hatred, because it is clear he must have wanted the video as a memento of the event!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 13, 2013 05:17 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:17 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 05:18 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:18 PM (qyfb5)
I'd think twice about the Muvico trip if you think the verdict is going to be announced tonight. Remember the shootings and stabbings over there a couple years ago? Think it's turned into gang central at Arundel Mills. I worked over there a few years ago. They made us have a security escort when we were leaving for the night. (Worked in a store there).
I'd do Snowden before I'd do the Mills.
Posted by: FordCityKathy at July 13, 2013 09:11 PM (moC+6)
Yeah, I wasn't aware of the past violence there but have noticed it can be a "rowdy" crowd when going late at night. Tis a shame, as the theater does a great job of presenting a bright and loud picture. At Snowden, where I usually go, I've experienced either too soft sound or a dim picture. Even once the picture was pincushioned! (All buildings in background had curves.)
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 13, 2013 05:19 PM (UOjzE)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 05:19 PM (jjvz+)
crowd outside courthouse now chanting "we don't want no manslaughter, no no we want justice!"
riots no matter what
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 05:19 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Though balloon from the Holy Jury Cloisters at July 13, 2013 05:20 PM (1fe4V)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:20 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: BignJames at July 13, 2013 05:20 PM (20Mmk)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 13, 2013 05:21 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:22 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:22 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: RWC at July 13, 2013 05:22 PM (8FeS+)
I think I can safely say, you don't need to save those copies of the Constitution, because it really will have become a relic of the past, replaced with the progressive cause du jour!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 13, 2013 05:22 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 05:22 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: BignJames at July 13, 2013 05:22 PM (20Mmk)
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 05:23 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Thought balloon from the Holy Jury Cloisters at July 13, 2013 05:23 PM (1fe4V)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 05:23 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: waldo at July 13, 2013 05:23 PM (cjFRv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:23 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 13, 2013 05:23 PM (sZRSi)
Posted by: waldo at July 13, 2013 05:24 PM (cjFRv)
Posted by: RIK at July 13, 2013 05:24 PM (bA1PK)
Posted by: Beto the White Hispanic at July 13, 2013 05:24 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 05:25 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:25 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: rickl at July 13, 2013 05:25 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: BignJames at July 13, 2013 05:25 PM (20Mmk)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 09:22 PM (Pb0zF)
Meh, courthouses are public space and the place where you often "petition for a redress of grievances." So it doesn't bug me much. Apparently there are protesters from both sides.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 13, 2013 05:25 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: EC at July 13, 2013 05:25 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Blacksheep at July 13, 2013 05:25 PM (bS6uW)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 13, 2013 05:26 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: RWC at July 13, 2013 05:26 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 09:25 PM (Z9EHQ)
Rev Al Sharpton, black courtesy phone please!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 13, 2013 05:26 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 05:26 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 05:26 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:26 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:26 PM (qyfb5)
they have set up "first Amendment zones"
although all public places should be first amendment zones
I guess that's next
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 05:27 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: FordCityKathy at July 13, 2013 05:27 PM (moC+6)
Posted by: Blacksheep at July 13, 2013 05:28 PM (bS6uW)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:28 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:28 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: EC at July 13, 2013 05:28 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at July 13, 2013 05:28 PM (1wI7y)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 05:29 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at July 13, 2013 05:29 PM (tEMfu)
Posted by: Johnny the shoeshine guy at July 13, 2013 05:29 PM (1fe4V)
Catchier than 'give us Barrabbas,' I guess.
Posted by: zsasz at July 13, 2013 05:29 PM (MMC8r)
Holder is probably busing even more protesters in from out of state right now
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 13, 2013 05:29 PM (lm0Rv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:30 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: EC at July 13, 2013 09:25 PM (doBIb)
What I really want is ammo, and I am still kicking myself because I pretty much knew this was coming and didn't buy enough!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 13, 2013 05:30 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 05:31 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 09:30 PM (zOTsN)
So Jeantel can chant in cursive?
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 13, 2013 05:31 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: EC at July 13, 2013 05:31 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 13, 2013 08:10 PM (UOjzE)
Not that close. Isn't that where the new casino is?
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at July 13, 2013 08:45 PM (jucos)
Yes, but its a 15 minute ride from downtown Baltimore.... I'm comparing it to Columbia, MD which takes 15 minutes just to get from one side to another.
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 13, 2013 05:31 PM (UOjzE)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 09:26 PM (Pb0zF)
No, there's usually a back way out. In the Casey Anthony case the jurors had a news conference set up, then bolted while everyone was waiting for them.
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 09:27 PM (zOTsN
Balderdash, your right to free speech does not include a right to impede my movement through said public space.
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at July 13, 2013 05:32 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:32 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 13, 2013 05:32 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:32 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: BignJames at July 13, 2013 05:32 PM (20Mmk)
He was around earlier. Didn't seem very excited as you can imagine.
Posted by: Adam at July 13, 2013 05:33 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 13, 2013 05:33 PM (ZshNr)
I do think they proved, far beyond the shadow of a doubt, they were the kind of lawyers that Wm Shakespeare was talking about!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 13, 2013 05:33 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:33 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 05:34 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: RWC at July 13, 2013 05:34 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: EC at July 13, 2013 05:35 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 05:35 PM (z4WKX)
Same here, and I so want to train my daughter in the niceties of the range!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 13, 2013 05:36 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 05:36 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: RIK at July 13, 2013 09:24 PM (bA1PK)
Uhh... got a link for that?
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 13, 2013 05:36 PM (UOjzE)
Posted by: Blacksheep at July 13, 2013 05:37 PM (bS6uW)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:37 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Barney at July 13, 2013 05:38 PM (rCS6C)
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 09:35 PM (z4WKX)
He's believes his own bullshit and press. He believes Egypt got rid of Mubarak because of his stupid speech. So he thinks they'll listen to him.
Posted by: buzzion at July 13, 2013 05:38 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:39 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: Thought balloon from the Holy Jury Cloisters at July 13, 2013 05:39 PM (1fe4V)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 13, 2013 05:39 PM (K8169)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 05:39 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: RWC at July 13, 2013 09:39 PM (UXgtG)
Shit is starting to get real!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 13, 2013 05:40 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at July 13, 2013 05:41 PM (jjvz+)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 13, 2013 05:41 PM (vgd4f)
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 05:41 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at July 13, 2013 06:46 PM (o5q2C)
Hamster shit. The lights, the motors, the blog, all run by a high-powered gas called methane. And methane cometh from hamster shit.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at July 13, 2013 05:42 PM (9zx9u)
Posted by: I Can Haz Socializm? at July 13, 2013 05:42 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Lincolntf at July 13, 2013 05:42 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:43 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 05:43 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: RWC at July 13, 2013 05:44 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: Barney at July 13, 2013 09:38 PM (rCS6C)
If I had a LOLcat, it's be dressed up in a hoodie...
Posted by: I Can Haz Socializm? at July 13, 2013 09:42 PM (Vk2pI)
http://thisiswhyimbroke.com/images/pet-hoodie.jpg
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 13, 2013 05:44 PM (UOjzE)
I'm not trying to be mean, but wow. We have fallen far as a culture and nation. I can only hope we turn this country around. The bigotry of low expectations is on parade in this trial, Still nobody that matters has went live and exposed the man behind the curtain yet. Our fantasy world goes on I guess....
Posted by: Vista Martinez at July 13, 2013 05:44 PM (R/QBr)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 13, 2013 05:44 PM (K8169)
Posted by: L, elle at July 13, 2013 05:45 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 09:43 PM (z4WKX)
Amazing that third world scum can recognize what a loser Barry is, and yet we can re-elect him in spite of a four year long track record!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 13, 2013 05:45 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: fluffy at July 13, 2013 05:45 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Bill H at July 13, 2013 05:45 PM (3sZO1)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:47 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 13, 2013 05:47 PM (vgd4f)
Thats about it..
Oh, and Hymie Town...
Posted by: JarvisW at July 13, 2013 05:47 PM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: RWC at July 13, 2013 05:47 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: lou's a girl at July 13, 2013 09:47 PM (vgd4f)
What time zone are you talking about, lou?
Posted by: Peaches at July 13, 2013 05:48 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 05:49 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: The Political Hat at July 13, 2013 05:49 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 13, 2013 09:30 PM (XdnQT)
I have five mags for my .40SW, and four for my .45ACP. If that isn't enough, then I will need my AR-15 with six mags. And then I am fucked.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2013 05:50 PM (gqgiP)
Passes Mero an AR 15 while laughing at the angry little rioters with their big scary little chantsPosted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:50 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 05:51 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: RWC at July 13, 2013 05:51 PM (8FeS+)
Posted by: BignJames at July 13, 2013 05:51 PM (20Mmk)
me, also, RWC, it's cutting right through the beer and tequila (don't ask)
Posted by: Peaches at July 13, 2013 05:51 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: MountainTurtle at July 13, 2013 05:52 PM (8IJ84)
Posted by: Peaches at July 13, 2013 05:52 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Arbalest at July 13, 2013 05:52 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2013 05:52 PM (gqgiP)
Posted by: thunderb at July 13, 2013 05:52 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 05:53 PM (z4WKX)
Best three restaurants in L.A.?
Expense account, so price is not a problem.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2013 05:53 PM (gqgiP)
Posted by: Tammy sans Thor at July 13, 2013 05:54 PM (Pb0zF)
Posted by: USA at July 13, 2013 05:54 PM (VIaw0)
Expense account, so price is not a problem.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 13, 2013 09:53 PM (gqgiP)
Need to know what area, if you're in SM, you want Ivy at the Shore or The Lobster. Is this for tonight? If not, meet me at the verdict thread.
Posted by: Peaches at July 13, 2013 05:55 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at July 13, 2013 05:56 PM (X9Mnx)
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 05:57 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: UWP at July 13, 2013 06:00 PM (r98SZ)
Posted by: CarolT at July 13, 2013 06:03 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 13, 2013 06:04 PM (qyfb5)
I can top that story. Back when I was working as a mortgage broker I specialized in sub-prime mortgages. Because the rates had fallen so much at that time I could usually save people $100 to $300 a month by refinancing even after I got my commission. There was one guy who had terrible credit, really so bad that even the predatory mortgage lenders would be reluctant to write him a mortgage. He was also paying over 12% on an adjustable rate mortgage. Over several months I called him at least once a week to make sure that he was paying his bills on time. It worked and his credit score improved to the point where I was about to get him a better mortgage. Then I called him and the stupid fuck told me that he had just bought a boat. He had tried before but his credit was so bad that nobody would finance it. Now that his credit score was in the high 500s, they would allow him to take on several hundred dollars of additional monthly financial obligation. If that shit for brains could have waited another month, he would probably have reduced his mortgage payment by as much as he increased his boat payment and wound up with the same obligations at the end of the month.
People tend to get sub-prime credit scores because they live sub-prime lives. If you cannot deal with potential customers wasting a lot of your time, you should probably look for a different way to make a living.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at July 14, 2013 07:25 AM (31Nrp)
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Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at July 13, 2013 02:43 PM (wR+pz)