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April 16, 2013

Saudi National Suspected in Bombing Smelled of Gunpowder When Interviewed by Police?
— Ace

So claims a New York Post source. This is the first tangible bit of evidence I've heard against him.

The police took various bits of possible evidence from the man's Revere apartment.

Marcus Worthington, 24, a law student who lives in a neighboring building, said he was told by an official wearing an ATF jacket that residents were Â“safe now.Â”
Worthington said officials told him they were responding to a tip about one of the apartments.
"He said that they were investigating a tip about a dangerous device in one of the apartments. I did ask him if it was a bomb or something, but he wouldn't answer."

I felt required to quote that as it seems highly suggestive, but I'm actually quoting it because it's not, but made to seem that way. Consider what a cop telling you "you're safe now" means-- it's just a general reassurance. It means "you're fine." It doesn't mean, as I think is being implied, "You're safe... now."

As for the latter bit, about asking if the cop had found a bomb and the cop not answering: This means even less. Why would the investigator answer? Investigator do answer sometimes, but they're not supposed to, not when it's about evidence concerning a very high-profile crime. In fact, the one situation I could see an investigator answering is if it were actually a bomb. In that case cops would say "Yes we think it's a bomb" and then begin evacuating people, in case there were more.

But this bit of nothing-trumped-up-into-something aside, there is some reason for suspecting this guy:

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At the hospital, investigators seized the manÂ’s clothes to examine whether they held any evidence that he was behind the attack. The law-enforcement sources also told The Post that the man was not free to leave the medical center.
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FBI investigators leaving the apartment building following a raid of the potential suspect's home.
As of last night, investigators had not yet directly asked the man whether he had set off the bombs. But they had asked him general questions, such as what he was doing in the area.
The potential suspect told police he had dinner Sunday night near BostonÂ’s Prudential Center, about half a mile from the blast site, the sources said.
He also said that he went to the Copley Square area yesterday to witness the finish of the race.
The sources said that, after the man was grabbed by police, he smelled of gunpowder and declared, Â“I thought there would be a second bomb.Â”
He also asked: Â“Did anyone die?Â”

As far as "smelled of gunpowder:" That's sort of suggestive but I do wonder-- wouldn't must people near the blast smell of gunpowder? (Assuming it was a gunpowder-based explosive.) People smell of gunpowder after firing guns; the cloud of gunpowder from a fired bullet gets into their skin and clothes. If a gunpowder-based bomb blew up, wouldn't a big cloud of gunpowder smoke get into the clothes and skin of anyone nearby or downwind?

"I thought there would be a second bomb" seems more suggestive. Although anyone can speculate something like that.

My skepticism is present here for two reasons: 1, I think skepticism is useful as a general matter, and 2, this just feels too easy to me. It feels like we should have had to work harder and longer to find this guy. (Though commenters remind me we rolled up Timothy McVeigh very quickly.)

Posted by: Ace at 07:47 AM | Comments (287)
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1 Firsty thirsty

Posted by: RWC at April 16, 2013 07:48 AM (fWAjv)

2 Open the borders. YEAH!

Posted by: madamex at April 16, 2013 07:49 AM (Tj05I)

3 Third

Posted by: Undocumented Policeman at April 16, 2013 07:50 AM (eEfYn)

4 Just got done watching CNN fall over itself defending Obama's lack of use of the word terror yesterday, and use of it today. It was a thing to behold.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at April 16, 2013 07:50 AM (deaac)

5 We've advised him of his rights and insured that he has proper counsel.

Posted by: Eric Holder at April 16, 2013 07:50 AM (bAGA/)

6 I would be worried about a second bomb too. That is SOP for the mid east terror bombings.

Posted by: rd at April 16, 2013 07:51 AM (zLp5I)

7 Gunpowder makes lousy homemade bombs. Black powder and other pyrotechnics work much better.

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 16, 2013 07:51 AM (tOkJB)

8 WHere is the video???? It's probably this Saudi guy and they probably have him on video - Obama is probably telling Boston to give them the video and to "stand down"Â…. Obama does not want to piss off his Muslim Brotherhood brosÂ….

Posted by: redguy at April 16, 2013 07:51 AM (oqvI4)

9 ...but Obama got Bin Laden!!!

Posted by: Stoopid Moonbat Hippie at April 16, 2013 07:52 AM (ujrve)

10 You may want to run your theory by the rat eared Kenyan because, he's thinking it was a Caucasian tax revolting domestic terrorist. Per Axelrod.

Posted by: Attila at April 16, 2013 07:52 AM (Cs2tJ)

11 Surprised JEF wasn't at the race, cheering on his Kenyan countrymen :-/

Posted by: REady for it all to be over at April 16, 2013 07:53 AM (2iVM3)

12 I think Richard Jewell smelled like gunpowder too.

Posted by: Roy at April 16, 2013 07:54 AM (VndSC)

Axeldork says TFG thinks it was because of tax day. So leave that poor Saudi lover of peace alone.

I hate everyone of these assholes from TFG on down.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at April 16, 2013 07:54 AM (rXcBX)

Odd. Gunpowder by itself doesn't smell all that strong, certainly not on a par that would be obvious to most people - including me. So I'm with Ace, that if he smelled of gunpowder at all it would be a consequence of being nearby when a fucking bomb went off.

You know, smelling like *burned* gunpowder.

Posted by: @JohnTant at April 16, 2013 07:54 AM (tVWQB)

15 Yesterday my liberal Boston friend was upset over the use of the word "coward" to describe the bomber. Today she's upset that CNN showed Tagg Romney doing a sort of lame chest-thumping routine. Haven't seen or heard one word of sympathy or anger from her, or her flock of facebook friends. Weird . . .

Posted by: Haley's Buttery Biscuit at April 16, 2013 07:54 AM (Kx+LC)

16 First it was 5 bombs yesterday, now 7 today, now 2. I guess that is either bad reporting...

Posted by: Baldy at April 16, 2013 07:54 AM (opS9C)

17 Isn't Boston blanketed with surveillance cameras? Aren't all big eastern cities?

Posted by: huerfano at April 16, 2013 07:54 AM (bAGA/)

18 Is it just me or has this countries union never been weaker?

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 16, 2013 07:54 AM (frl6N)

19 Anyone have a definitive count of the number of explosives set? I know of the two that exploded, but there may have been two more? I think a 'lone wolf' islamist could possibly do two on his own, but Al Q would probably have gone for more then two. Madrid train bombing was around ten bombs, iirc.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 16, 2013 07:55 AM (feFL6)

20 Speaking of gunpowder, I caught a couple of minutes of Fox. They had a fmr secret servuce agent on opining about the nature of the blast. Name was Bongino. Is that the guy running for Senate?

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at April 16, 2013 07:55 AM (5H6zj)

21 First it was 5 bombs yesterday, now 7 today, now 2. I guess that is either bad reporting...
Posted by: Baldy at April 16, 2013 11:54 AM

It happens.

Posted by: Brian Ross, ABC News at April 16, 2013 07:55 AM (bAGA/)

22 "Smelled of sulfur"... gee, that's Biblical..., but then, maybe he had brussels sprouts for lunch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 07:55 AM (aDwsi)

23 @19: There were only the 2 that went off, all reports of more have been debunked. For what they were looking to do, 2 was quite sufficient.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 16, 2013 07:55 AM (B/VB5)

I keep thinking of Richard Jewell...

I hope they are really investigating and not just building a case.

Posted by: rd at April 16, 2013 07:56 AM (zLp5I)

25 If a gunpowder-based bomb blew up, wouldn't a big cloud of gunpowder smoke get into the clothes and skin of anyone nearby or downwind? Speaking as a former black powder enthusiast (and participant in several "rendezvous" events) -- Yes, according to my wife.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at April 16, 2013 07:56 AM (Qxe/p)

26 @20: Ran, past tense, for Senate. Got his ass handed to him because this is Maryland.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 16, 2013 07:56 AM (B/VB5)

27 Just back from 6 mo. dental visit. Dentist says I have excellent teeth. Another case of genes at work, as I am pretty neglectful re dental care.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 07:57 AM (aDwsi)

28 JEF WANTS it to be connected with tax day. That makes it domestic, and that gives him broader opportunities to eliminate freedoms.

Posted by: Ready for it all to be over at April 16, 2013 07:57 AM (2iVM3)

29 Whoa, ace! Could be a big day for The White Party. I'm with you 100%.

Posted by: Kevin Harper, Spokane (actually, Supermax, somewhere, USA) at April 16, 2013 07:57 AM (7MbCG)

30 @20, Dan Bongino is running for Maryland Governor this cycle.

Posted by: @JohnTant at April 16, 2013 07:57 AM (tVWQB)

31 Insert black powder for gunpowder. They are different and as another commenter already mentioned, black powder would be much better for making an explosive device. Black powder also makes a lot of white smoke when it burns.

Posted by: Catmman at April 16, 2013 07:57 AM (C8XlI)

32 Everytime I leave the FourthFest fireworks at State College I smell of gunpowder. It gets in the air, gets on you.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 16, 2013 07:57 AM (feFL6)

33 If we were serious we would withhold medical treatment until he talked...but we aren't...and they are.

Posted by: Loinfo voter at April 16, 2013 07:57 AM (MbeEN)

34 Couldn't be this guy, Why? Axe said it was related to tax day He is not White He is not a Methodist His head isn't shaved No nazi tattoos. And the number one reason this guy could not have done this? He's a member of the "Religion of Peace" and his roommate says he's a "good boy" (dog whistle).

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 16, 2013 07:58 AM (wR+pz)

35 18 Is it just me or has this countries union never been weaker?

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 16, 2013 11:54 AM (frl6N)

It's you.

We red staters are one cohesive unit. Be afraid.

Posted by: Attila at April 16, 2013 07:58 AM (Cs2tJ)

36 The notion of a sovereign nation-state is exclusionary to the poor and downtrodden masses of the third world. The human construct of "national borders" must be torn down so we can realize true global utopia.

2 Open the borders. YEAH!

Posted by: madamex at April 16, 2013 11:49 AM (Tj05I)

Posted by: The Left at April 16, 2013 07:58 AM (cv5Iw)

The sources said that, after the man was grabbed by police, he smelled of gunpowder and declared, Â“I thought there would be a second bomb.Â”

He also asked: Â“Did anyone die?Â”

o_O

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 16, 2013 07:58 AM (lVPtV)

38 nothing-trumped-up-into-something aside
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Ace, you're doing it all wrong. Come, learn from the master.

Posted by: Chrissy Mathews at April 16, 2013 07:58 AM (84pE9)

39 Y'all would say it was black powder.

Posted by: Toure at April 16, 2013 07:59 AM (VndSC)

40 Easy case. If this dude "had dinner" at the Glass Slipper, he's the bomber. If not, probably not.

Thanks for leaving that tidbit out, "sources."

Posted by: oblig., mindhunter at April 16, 2013 07:59 AM (cePv8)

41 I and my lamp cord have a few questions for this young man.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 16, 2013 07:59 AM (4sTLj)

42 The article states that the only two bombs found were the two that exploded. As for smelling like gunpowder, I didn't know it had a smell, unless it is burned. So either he did some offsite blowing up of stuff, or he was at that site when it blew up. Since we know he was at the site when it blew up, it stands to reason he'd smell like the smoke of burned gunpowder.

Posted by: Whatev at April 16, 2013 07:59 AM (A7Wh1)

43 26 @20: Ran, past tense, for Senate. Got his ass handed to him because this is Maryland.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 16, 2013 11:56 AM
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What astounds me is that the Gov. is mentioned as possible national candidate. I suppose nothing should surprise me any more, I mean look at who we have now...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 08:00 AM (aDwsi)

44 If this was the work of Jihadists it would be the first successful Jihadist terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11

There is no way in Hell that the media will allow that little statistic to be hung on their "messiah".

Still all the tradecraft screams "Jihadist"...

So expect the news to shift to _INSERT SQUIRREL HERE_ soon.

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 16, 2013 08:00 AM (OtQXp)

45 Asking if their was a second bomb don't surprise me. Isn't that standard operating procedures in the ME? Blow off one bomb, then blow off a second one to kill first responders? A saudi asking about a second bomb is probably as normal as an American asking if he wants fries with that burger.

Posted by: Berserker at April 16, 2013 08:00 AM (FMbng)

46 I haven't been this excited sinceÂ… Well, this excited since the last knucklehead-bombing-murder-spree-that-should-have-been-an-al-Qaeda-attack.

Posted by: andrew breitbart at April 16, 2013 08:00 AM (7MbCG)

"Speaking as a former black powder enthusiast"

If this was a black-powder bomb, we are ALL going to ex-enthusiasts.

No powder or reloading supplies without a permit.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 16, 2013 08:00 AM (026j9)

48 Our President is a fucking coward.

Posted by: garrett at April 16, 2013 08:00 AM (/CXoi)

49 a law student who lives in a neighboring building, said he was told by an official wearing an ATF jacket that residents were Â“safe now.Â” Sheesh, a neighboring building. Sounds like bomb to me.

Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2013 08:01 AM (FcR7P)

50 And erg's back with a big ol' nothing burger.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 16, 2013 08:01 AM (lVPtV)

51 I agree that we need skepticism regarding all of this. I also note that McVeigh was, among other things, an idiot. He drove the getaway car without a license plate. (Some say he had made his own license plate but he had no official license plate.) That was why he was arrested.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 16, 2013 08:01 AM (Hx5uv)

52 47 I haven't been this excited sinceÂ… Well, this excited since the last knucklehead-bombing-murder-spree-that-should-have-been-an-al-Qaeda-attack.

Posted by: andrew breitbart at April 16, 2013 12:00 PM (7MbCG)

Fuck off...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at April 16, 2013 08:01 AM (9+ccr)

53 Yesterday my liberal Boston friend was upset over the use of the word "coward" to describe the bomber.

We certainly wouldn't want to hurt the delicate feewings of anyone who just maimed two hundred people. O_O

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 16, 2013 08:01 AM (/kI1Q)

54 41 I and my lamp cord have a few questions for this young man. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 16, 2013 11:59 AM
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I've been looking for my waterboard...., gotta be here somewhere..., maybe in the broom closet.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 08:02 AM (aDwsi)

55 Boston Marathon bombing?

When did that happen?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at April 16, 2013 08:02 AM (WCe8r)

56 Photo caption

Mohammed Badawood, 20, is the roommate of the potential suspect, described to The Post as a Saudi national.

Why is this guy not in jail being sweated? He "looks" guilty as hell.

Posted by: Vic at April 16, 2013 08:02 AM (53z96)

57 the first 48.......the first 48

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 16, 2013 08:02 AM (GVxQo)

58 Gotta say, the lack of a group/individual claiming responsibility at this point is a little concerning.

Posted by: Mainah at April 16, 2013 08:02 AM (659DL)

59 There is no way in Hell that the media will allow that little statistic to be hung on their "messiah". Because Republican Sequester, that's why.

Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2013 08:02 AM (FcR7P)

>>I and my lamp cord have a few questions for this young man.

**Slides soldering iron over**.

Posted by: garrett at April 16, 2013 08:02 AM (/CXoi)

61 How's Major Hassan's health holding up? Can't someone arrange for that POS to fall out of his wheelchair and hit his head hard?

The fact that we're still paying the bastard's salary makes me feel all ragey inside.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 16, 2013 08:02 AM (lVPtV)

62 46 Lots of stuff smells like gunpowder to lay-peoples. Hey, you talking about me? http://tinyurl.com/chehwul

Posted by: The Blonde Frog at April 16, 2013 08:03 AM (wR+pz)

63 Big day for The White Party, could be, ace.

Posted by: Kevin Harper, Spokane (actually, Supermax, somewhere, USA) at April 16, 2013 08:03 AM (JDPOf)

64 Bill Keating a Representative from Massachusetts that also sits on the Homeland Security Committee made this statement yesterday: Â– One unexploded device was found at a hotel on Boylston Street near the bomb site and another unexploded device was found at an undisclosed location, Rep. Bill Keating, D-Massachusetts, said. Keating, a member of the House Homeland Security committee called it a Â“sophisticated, coordinated, planned attack.Â” Have they told us what that undisclosed location is --yet? That might be a huge clue as to motive.

Posted by: tasker at April 16, 2013 08:03 AM (r2PLg)

65 Remember, the break in the first WTC bombing came because one of the rocket surgeons involved tried to get the deposit back on the truck. Stupider things have happened.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 16, 2013 08:04 AM (VtjlW)

66 Hmmm. (reaches for some pliers and a blowtorch). Ready.

Posted by: CUS at April 16, 2013 08:04 AM (84pE9)

67 Burn the Madrassas.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at April 16, 2013 08:04 AM (wbmaj)

68 Everytime I leave the FourthFest fireworks at State College I smell of gunpowder. It gets in the air, gets on you.

Posted by: Regular Moron at April 16, 2013 11:57 AM (feFL6)

The best place in the world :-)

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 16, 2013 08:04 AM (fwARV)

69 the "Mohammed Quotient" is 100 %, as they say at Gates of Vienna

Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville at April 16, 2013 08:05 AM (Dll6b)

70 I kid you not. On Sun News, Canada, they were just interviewing a Mia Bloom, a "fellow at The International Center for the Study of Terrorism." Also the author of "Dying to Kill." She said we have to be very careful of what is being reported, that the media has an important role, then she goes on to ONLY call out Fox News, where she claims Fox has already identified an individual, giving address and what floor he lives on, etc. And, then she says, almost verbatim (I rewound and tried to type it exactly as she said it): You could make a very persuasive argument that it was on our tax day, so April 15th, it was the most liberal state, the last mile of the race was dedicated to gun control and it's an event that is almost often won by someone from outside the US, and esp in the past Africans who have been winning the Boston Marathon year end and year out, so you could make an equally cogent argument that it might have been the extreme right wing, what I would say is that we don't know nearly enough to be able to deduce what it was... She used just about every hate filled liberal buzz word. And, got her dig at Fox at the same time. Unbelievable. My jaw dropped.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2013 08:05 AM (XYSwB)

71 If this was the work of Jihadists it would be the first successful Jihadist terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11

Posted by: Nighthawk

Wrong.

There have been a number of one-off bombs. Further the Ft Hood. massacre was a fucking terrorist attack by a jihadist no matter what the twats in the O-ministration say.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 16, 2013 08:05 AM (5Hl3g)

72 66 Remember, the break in the first WTC bombing came because one of the rocket surgeons involved tried to get the deposit back on the truck. Stupider things have happened. Posted by: alexthechick at April 16, 2013 12:04 PM (VtjlW) Tight budget, I guess.

Posted by: BignJames at April 16, 2013 08:05 AM (Sg0G/)

73 One odd thing that makes me think he was lone wolf or not AlQaeda - his supposed Facebook page with dozens of photos and friends. Not smart if you're a terrorist.

Posted by: Baldy at April 16, 2013 08:06 AM (opS9C)

74 45 Asking if their was a second bomb don't surprise me. Isn't that standard operating procedures in the ME? Blow off one bomb, then blow off a second one to kill first responders? A saudi asking about a second bomb is probably as normal as an American asking if he wants fries with that burger.

Posted by: Berserker at April 16, 2013 12:00 PM (FMbng)

Yes, but would you ever actually say that to a cop right after a bombing?

Seriously.

Posted by: KG at April 16, 2013 08:06 AM (p7BzH)

75 Look at it this way, assholes. If it's Mr Saudi National, knucklehead paydirt. If it's knucklehead Patriot Dude, then, well, ace has another right-wing hero he can publicly denounce as a nutbag. Win win.

Posted by: Kevin Harper, Spokane (actually, Supermax, somewhere, USA) at April 16, 2013 08:06 AM (JDPOf)

Saying someone near the blast site smelled like gunpowder is as helpful as saying someone caught in a thunderstorm was wet.

Posted by: Roy at April 16, 2013 08:07 AM (VndSC)

77 No, in retrospect, Salameh, was the squirrel, that kept the authorities from getting to Yousef, the ring leader, before the latter left for Pakistan,

Posted by: luigi vercotti at April 16, 2013 08:07 AM (Jsiw/)

78 Yeah, I'm pretty sure you'd smell like gunpowder if you were severely burned by a gunpowder bomb. And I would be worried about a second bomb as well.

But...

Posted by: runninrebel at April 16, 2013 08:07 AM (J4gw3)

79 Is there a TB3K in the house?

Posted by: fluffy at April 16, 2013 08:07 AM (z9HTb)

80 59 Gotta say, the lack of a group/individual claiming responsibility at this point is a little concerning. Posted by: Mainah at April 16, 2013 12:02 PM (659DL) ******* Al Qaeda took awhile before they claimed responsibility for 9/11. Bin Laden Claims Responsibility for 9/11 Published October 30, 2004 FoxNews.com Usama bin Laden (search ) made his first televised appearance in more than a year Friday in which he admitted for the first time ordering the Sept. 11 attacks and accused President Bush of "misleading" the American people. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137095,0 0.html#ixzz2Qdvq1o2N

Posted by: tasker at April 16, 2013 08:07 AM (r2PLg)

81 If this was the work of Jihadists it would be the first successful Jihadist terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11 Embassies are considered US soil. And if we're all "citizens of the world" now, well...

Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2013 08:07 AM (FcR7P)

82 Unfired gunpowder (black or smokeless) has little to no smell. The gases from the burning of the powder is what smells "like gunpowder". As mentioned, anyone near the blast would smell like the gas given off from the explosive.

Posted by: dogsandhogs at April 16, 2013 08:08 AM (NzPUq)

83 One odd thing that makes me think he was lone wolf or not AlQaeda - his supposed Facebook page with dozens of photos and friends. Not smart if you're a terrorist.

People are not smart about Facebook in general - it's Zuckerburg's entire business model.

It's a running joke on the series "Person of Interest" that their high-tech AI pre-crime-detecting computer doesn't really need to spy on people because they volunteer all the necessary info on FB.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 16, 2013 08:08 AM (B/VB5)

84 Latest report is that the FBI will be taking off at 3:00 PM because of the sequester. News at 11.

Posted by: MSM at April 16, 2013 08:09 AM (wR+pz)

>>>>Embassies are considered US soil.

Ahem,

Posted by: Jimmah Carter at April 16, 2013 08:09 AM (VndSC)

86 in all fairness roy, you could be in a thunderstorm with no rain....but i get what you are saying.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 16, 2013 08:09 AM (GVxQo)

87 Can someone drop the banhammer on the supermax asshole?

Posted by: rd at April 16, 2013 08:09 AM (zLp5I)

88 44 Posted by: Nighthawk at April 16, 2013 12:00 PM (OtQXp) ---- We even had a mostly now forgotten attack in Bush's term- the El Al shooting at LAX on July 4, 2002.

Posted by: Baldy at April 16, 2013 08:09 AM (opS9C)

89 82 If this was the work of Jihadists it would be the first successful Jihadist terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11

-------

Ft. Hood ring a bell?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 16, 2013 08:09 AM (lVPtV)

90
Though commenters remind me we rolled up Timothy McVeigh very quickly.

On the other hand - Anthrax.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 16, 2013 08:09 AM (kdS6q)

91 Al Queda killed 50 yesterday in Iraq with a bomb blast...

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at April 16, 2013 08:09 AM (DGIjM)

92 Was it ever stated how they found the device in Newton? Why look there?

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at April 16, 2013 08:10 AM (5H6zj)

93 Don't have time to see whether this has been mentioned yet (and I don't even know the proximity of where this guy was apprehended) but I would guess that many near the explosions may have smelled of gunpowder.

Posted by: dogfish at April 16, 2013 08:10 AM (NuPNl)

94 Yes, but would you ever actually say that to a cop right after a bombing? Seriously. Depends what is his native language. A lot of ESL people have trouble with our tenses. A lot of them never get them right after living here for decades. Not that I want to give him too much benefit of the doubt, and I have some unsterilized dental appliances I'd like to donate to his interrogation.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 16, 2013 08:10 AM (feFL6)

95 If someone was pissed about tax day, wouldn't they target a government office?

Also talk of "islamic bombers are MUCH more sophisticated, must be retard teabaggers". Richard Reid the Shoe Bomber and the Undiebomber weren't exactly Hans Gruber. One former FBI source told the LA Times it had the earmarks of a radicalized islamist who lives in or is a citizen of the USA

Posted by: kbdabear at April 16, 2013 08:10 AM (mCvL4)

96 People who explode bombs against fellow Americans are not "Right wing heros". That sounds more like heros to some left wingers. Bill Ayers ring a bell? Weather Underground? Can we just ban this idiot?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2013 08:10 AM (BVq/X)

97 This Kevin Harper character confirms Laura W's post below about the evil of fanatics.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 16, 2013 08:10 AM (Hx5uv)

98 And in the swirl of explosion fallout, Senators introduce amnesy bill. Perfect timing. No one is looking.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at April 16, 2013 08:11 AM (wbmaj)

99 Yeah, that's impressive. She's been practicing that.

71

She used just about every hate filled liberal buzz word. And, got her dig at Fox at the same time.

Unbelievable. My jaw dropped.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 16, 2013 12:05 PM (XYSwB)

Posted by: Pyrocles at April 16, 2013 08:11 AM (cv5Iw)

100 Ok, going back to read the post, ala Breibart style, I see it was mentioned by Ace himself.

Posted by: dogfish at April 16, 2013 08:11 AM (NuPNl)

101

The bombs are beginning to look more rudimentary in construction. It might be he actually had to light the fuse and run from the first place to the second, misjudged the fuse, and thats how he got injured.

I don't think these were cell phone triggered.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 16, 2013 08:11 AM (t06LC)

102 Oh crap now I will have to spend my lunch hour stocking up on Black Powder, Pryodex more specifically before DHS orders up 60 tons of the stuff and the shelves go empty. About time to get another safe, one is about full, well before the breakin it was, now I have a lot of room ah, humph!

Posted by: concealedkerry or submit at April 16, 2013 08:11 AM (vXqv3)

103 Latest report is that the FBI will be taking off at 3:00 PM because of the sequester. Now you're giving His Nobel Lordship ideas. "Can't be Presidentin', gotta hit the links!"

Posted by: t-bird at April 16, 2013 08:11 AM (FcR7P)

104 Rampant Speculation, Day 2: Electric Boogaloo

Posted by: Andy at April 16, 2013 08:12 AM (Nqsfd)

105 74 One odd thing that makes me think he was lone wolf or not AlQaeda - his supposed Facebook page with dozens of photos and friends. Not smart if you're a terrorist.
Posted by: Baldy at April 16, 2013 12:06 PM
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Agreed. Home-brew explosives, lone wolf. Maybe two.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 08:12 AM (aDwsi)

106 Barry: We will find who is responsible for this. Unless they don't forward my agenda then my minions in the MFM will Benghazi this story

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 16, 2013 08:12 AM (1Jaio)

107 #85 All bomb sniffing canines have already been furloughed.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at April 16, 2013 08:12 AM (wbmaj)

108 Hey, this bombing was caused by lax immigration laws!

If the left is going to politicize this, why can't we?

Posted by: Iblis at April 16, 2013 08:13 AM (9221z)

109 I don't think anyone is going to claim responsibility until their guys get the fuck out of the country and into a cave.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at April 16, 2013 08:13 AM (wR+pz)

110 Reading the headlines at Drudge; we're entering the stupid period of the news cycle--where there is no more real news, the event is still fresh, so people give into wild speculation and conspiracy theories are born.

Recall the hooded man in dark sunglasses they released after OKC?

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 16, 2013 08:13 AM (VjL9S)

111 My speculation is that he's a killer robot from the future.

Posted by: zsasz at April 16, 2013 08:13 AM (MMC8r)

112 Light fuses and runs? Who are these tax Day Protester, methodists pissed off cause someone ate all the tato salads, Whylee Coyotee?

Posted by: concealedkerry or submit at April 16, 2013 08:13 AM (vXqv3)

113 Family Guy ran a Boson Marathon Bombing scenario on March the 17th. Cell phone triggered.

Posted by: Knave at April 16, 2013 08:14 AM (cipri)

114

The only thing that makes me think it would not be a middle east terrorist is that it was a highly planned attack performed by a highly competent group or person.

Or in the alternative, which I pray is not the case, DHS and Boston PD dropped the ball big time.

I find it hard to be Christian at this time because my thoughts are all about revenge and wiping out everyone and everything involved in carrying out this attack.

Posted by: polynikes at April 16, 2013 08:14 AM (m2CN7)

115 Black powder, when ignited, smells of rotten eggs. Hydrogen sulfide I believe. Really smells like hell. But anyone close enough to get hit might be close enough to stink of burned powder, depending on wind. The use of black powder would indicate difficulty in obtaining high explosives. BP is a low velocity, low yeild explosive.

Posted by: maddogg at April 16, 2013 08:14 AM (OlN4e)

116

One former FBI source told the LA Times it had the earmarks of a radicalized islamist who lives in or is a citizen of the USA

Thats my guess. Kinda like the times square guy.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 16, 2013 08:14 AM (t06LC)

117 My speculation is that he's a killer robot from the future.

Posted by: zsasz at April 16, 2013 12:13 PM (MMC8r)

I already guessed that tomorrow.

Posted by: runninrebel at April 16, 2013 08:14 AM (J4gw3)

118

I posted something to this effect yesterday: Where is the outrage against the dozens of Americans killed and hundreds assaulted every week by illegal aliens? All. Preventable. Crimes.

Protect me, asshats. That is your only Constitutional directive.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 16, 2013 08:14 AM (026j9)

119 I don't think anyone is going to claim responsibility until their guys get the fuck out of the country and into a ~~cave~~ goat.

FIFY.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 16, 2013 08:14 AM (B/VB5)

120 Family Guy ran a Boson Marathon Bombing scenario on March the 17th. Cell phone triggered.

Rush Limbaugh once appeared on Family Guy. QED, wingnuts.

Posted by: Michael Moore at April 16, 2013 08:15 AM (B/VB5)

121 102 I don't think these were cell phone triggered. At least it gave our benevolent statist overlords the chance to show off their denial of all cel service capabilities. During an epic and tragic disaster, nothing like returning the victims to the stone age after society insists we all become tethered to mobile devices. Good show, Government. Top. Men.

Posted by: [/i]akula51 at April 16, 2013 08:16 AM (hNXHo)

122 I tend to think it's homegrown. Don't Islamic terrorists typically take credit for their acts of mayhem? Of course, no one really knows who is responsible at this point. Anyone who commits acts of violence like this belongs in prison and is obviously a very sick individual. I hope they arrest whoever is responsible quickly. Those who mix politics and violence have no place in American politics. This is not how you achieve political ends in a free society. This act is abhorrent.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at April 16, 2013 08:16 AM (2/oBD)

123 Wasn't this guy actually tackled by another bystander who saw him acting suspiciously before the explosion? I'm sure I read that in another article but it's not mentioned in this one. I'd sure like to hear the tackler describe what he saw, but that's apparently being blockaded. It would scare us too much, I guess.

Posted by: Haley's Buttery Biscuit at April 16, 2013 08:17 AM (Kx+LC)

124

It's morbid to say it, but Kermit Gosnell's body and severed limb count is still higher than the terrorist's.

Posted by: Roy at April 16, 2013 08:17 AM (VndSC)

125 Of course none of us should speculate but then why are we on here wasting our time and not out panhandling?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 16, 2013 08:17 AM (9Bj8R)

126 118 My speculation is that he's a killer robot from the future.

Posted by: zsasz at April 16, 2013 12:13 PM (MMC8r)

I already guessed that tomorrow.
Posted by: runninrebel at April 16, 2013 12:14 PM
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Big deal, I guessed it next year.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 08:17 AM (aDwsi)

127 9/11 was the happiest day of ace's life. He spent 8 years fighting terrorists with his computer. And then, America was delivered into the hands of Islamic fascists by Barack Hussein Obama. Yesterday could be the day that turns everything around. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Kevin Harper, Spokane (actually, Supermax, somewhere, USA) at April 16, 2013 08:17 AM (JDPOf)

128 Also, the supposed Facebook page of the supposed person of interest is a bit light in the loafers. Perhaps he is a patsy.

Posted by: Baldy at April 16, 2013 08:17 AM (opS9C)

129

O/T No one from the US government is going to Thatcher's Funeral?

This was announced BEFORE the bombing.

Everyone else in the world is sending someone. We cannot even spare slow Joe or the misses for a few days? Sadly, none of the former presidents are going either. GHW Bush must be in poor health. GW Bush would just incite the Thatcher hate even more. Carter is probably in Venezuela celebrating with the Castro-ites. If Hilary was really serious about running for president, she and BJ Clinton should have gone.

Posted by: rd at April 16, 2013 08:17 AM (zLp5I)

130 I find it hard to be Christian at this time because my thoughts are all about revenge and wiping out everyone and everything involved in carrying out this attack.

Posted by: polynikes at April 16, 2013 12:14 PM (m2CN7)

Thats why I like the idea of Bellum iustum from St. Augustine. Problem solved.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 16, 2013 08:18 AM (t06LC)

131

Posted by: letitbeme at April 16, 2013 08:18 AM (4uDUj)

132 Are you erg? I am looking for erg volcano.

Posted by: surprisingly well-built man with euro accent at April 16, 2013 08:18 AM (mGBy8)

133 114 Family Guy ran a Boson Marathon Bombing scenario on March the 17th. Cell phone triggered. Posted by: Knave at April 16, 2013 12:14 PM (cipri) OMG

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at April 16, 2013 08:18 AM (DGIjM)

134 My skepticism is present here for two reasons: 1, I think skepticism is useful as a general matter, and 2, this just feels too easy to me. It feels like we should have had to work harder and longer to find this guy. (Though commenters remind me we rolled up Timothy McVeigh very quickly.)

McVeigh was stopped on the Kansas Turnpike driving without license plates in an old Ford so beat up it was conspicuous. The 93 WTC bomber was idiotic enough to go back twice to demand his deposit back for the truck he blew up

Many times its the mundane simple mistakes that get the criminals caught. Ted Bundy was caught because he was a bad driver pulled over by cops, and Son of Sam David Berkowitz was nailed over unpaid parking tickets

Posted by: kbdabear at April 16, 2013 08:18 AM (mCvL4)

135 And, fuck erg, he's got nothin'.

Posted by: zsasz at April 16, 2013 08:18 AM (MMC8r)

136 117 One former FBI source told the LA Times it had the earmarks of a radicalized islamist who lives in or is a citizen of the USA
Thats my guess. Kinda like the times square guy. Posted by: Jollyroger at April 16, 2013 12:14 PM
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That's my first guess.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 08:18 AM (aDwsi)

137 Way too much speculation on this entire thing.

First, the contra-intellectual;

Anti-Tax Protester? So by randomly blowing up his fellow taxpayers. who also largely hate the IRS- he's...furthering his cause? Really???

Fail.

My queries;

The bomb type is a little puzzling. If it was black powder, which it appeared to be from the black smoke, it's not a signature terrorist method. Buying black-powder attracts more attention than some of the other potential materials. But it is somewhat more compact and relatively unsophisticated.

The suspect if connected, is very close to the explosion. Which indicates he is probably also a novice. Ultimately, if he's involved it's the "lone-wolf" LE feared all along. Someone radically inspired, but acting alone.

Wouldn't that be something with the immigration talk in Congress? Yes, we need more of these skilled workers on H1-B Visas. No wait, more Foreign Student Visas to help supplement our society with jobs American's won't do. Like terrorism.

Wonderful.

Posted by: Marcus at April 16, 2013 08:18 AM (GGCsk)

138 So the eeevil, right wing Tea Party is in Saudi Arabia too.

Posted by: Chris Matthews, Michael Moore, Bill Maher and every other liberal media douchebag at April 16, 2013 08:18 AM (pyxdm)

139 drudge

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 16, 2013 08:18 AM (ZPrif)

140 The supermax troll should be banned, ace should be alerted

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at April 16, 2013 08:18 AM (yAor6)

141 Ace - Banhammer. #128. (JDPOf)

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 16, 2013 08:18 AM (fwARV)

142 *white smoke

Posted by: Marcus at April 16, 2013 08:19 AM (GGCsk)

143 Well who knows if the Saudi was asked "Why were you running" when he stated that he feared a second blast. There's no context for his declaration except he was moving away from the primary blast. I would probably have feared another blast, do you know anyone with sense who would not have considered it on the spot?

Posted by: SarahW at April 16, 2013 08:19 AM (LYwCh)

144 Please ban Super maxipad.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2013 08:19 AM (BVq/X)

145 And any of you teabagging wingnuts who mention Islamic terrorists are Islamaphobes!

Posted by: Chris Matthews, Michael Moore, Bill Maher and every other liberal media douchebag at April 16, 2013 08:19 AM (pyxdm)

146 If Hilary was really serious about running for president, she and BJ Clinton should have gone.

I thought I read in the Daily Mail that she was going. Of course, she's still "former administration official" *cough*

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 16, 2013 08:20 AM (/kI1Q)

147 right on cue, eggmcmuffin pops in to make all of you defendants

Posted by: soothsayer at April 16, 2013 08:20 AM (BUcLz)

148 Meanwhile, in Albany... http://preview.tinyurl.com/csfwlcn (h/t to Blackfive) Reports indicate Hissy Chrissy on PMSNBC is about to claim this was a Tea Party false flag attack.

Posted by: Thorvald at April 16, 2013 08:20 AM (1V6Pv)

149 Family Guy ran a Boson Marathon Bombing scenario on March the 17th. Cell phone triggered. Ban Family Guy! No, really, I'm fine with that. It sucks.

Posted by: zsasz at April 16, 2013 08:20 AM (MMC8r)

150 Surprised JEF wasn't at the race, cheering on his Kenyan countrymen :-/ Posted by: REady for it all to be over at April 16, 2013 11:53 AM (2iVM3) Thats fucking retarded.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at April 16, 2013 08:20 AM (+wxCD)

151 The Associated Press ‏@AP 55s MORE: Explosives at Boston Marathon were in pressure cookers inside duffel bags, a person briefed on probe says. *** Pressure cookers?

Posted by: tasker at April 16, 2013 08:20 AM (r2PLg)

152 Wrong.

There have been a number of one-off bombs. Further the Ft Hood. massacre was a fucking terrorist attack by a jihadist no matter what the twats in the O-ministration say.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 16, 2013 12:05 PM (5Hl3g)
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That is technically correct, but this is the first multiple casualty event that cannot be conveniently explained away as something it is not.

Therefore it must be buried.

And buried it will be- most likely after an intense campaign of innuendo to smear conservative groups and causes. After all, "never let a crisis go to waste", right?

Posted by: Nighthawk at April 16, 2013 08:20 AM (OtQXp)

153

Fox just reported that the bombs were made out of pressure cookers packed with explosives and ball bearings, similar to devices that were first seen in Afghanistan.

Similar bomb configurations were apparently described in Inspire, al QaedaÂ’s magazine for amateure jihadis.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 16, 2013 08:20 AM (fwARV)

154 We have won the war on terror. Fore!

Posted by: His Awesomeness at April 16, 2013 08:20 AM (pyxdm)

155 According to Drudge, the bombs were made from pressure cookers.

Posted by: OCBill at April 16, 2013 08:20 AM (Mj+FA)

156 Hang the fuck on. Obviously erg is right. Obama snapped bin Laden's neck personally, with his slender ladyfingers and a flick of his expressive wrists. So, since erg's ladyfriend ended the War on Terror, this must have been a reich winger knucklehead. Fortunate fmfor us that this fuckin genius is here with his input.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 16, 2013 08:21 AM (4sTLj)

157 Are you erg? I am looking for erg volcano.

Posted by: surprisingly well-built man with euro accent at April 16, 2013 12:18 PM (mGBy

I picture erg as a Bob Beckel type. Fat, stupid, drunk always shooting off his big uneducated mouth

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 16, 2013 08:21 AM (1Jaio)

158

Black powder, when ignited, smells of rotten eggs. Hydrogen sulfide I believe. Really smells like hell

Sulfur dioxide, not hydrogen sulfide. Sulfur dioxide results from the oxidation of the sulfur in black powder (by the potassium nitrate), and has a burning acrid smell, nothing like rotten eggs, the smell of which IS hydrogen sulfide.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 16, 2013 08:21 AM (IDSI7)

159 Yes, but would you ever actually say that to a cop right after a bombing? Seriously.

Perhaps he was answering why he ran after the blast.

We don't know.

It might be the Saudi kid, might not be. At this point the only thing pointing to him is the bystander who thought he was acting suspiciously. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 16, 2013 08:21 AM (SY2Kh)

160 Supermax should be invited to a Moron Meetup as soon as humanly possible

Posted by: Ready for it all to be over at April 16, 2013 08:21 AM (2iVM3)

161 Overwhelmingly white smoke.

Posted by: the msm at April 16, 2013 08:21 AM (mGBy8)

162 Pressure cookers? As containment vessels, for a more catastrophic release. Sounds more like a homebrew operation.

Posted by: zsasz at April 16, 2013 08:22 AM (MMC8r)

163 We need to ban pressure cookers. Shit, let's just ban pressure altogether. And cooking.

Posted by: [/i]akula51 at April 16, 2013 08:22 AM (hNXHo)

164 1) Why were trash cans allowed on the street? Those are usually removed for events like this. IIRC, the French started doing this years ago. 2) The last case of attempted bombers with a political agenda in the USA was...Celevland's OWS crew. They wanted to blow up a bridge. (not a bank, or the stock exchange...a bridge.) So why does the media keep speculating on right wingers but not OWS?

Posted by: sexypig at April 16, 2013 08:22 AM (dZQh7)

165

On Fox.... announced it was Pressure Cookers and ball bearings...

See? We told you that Pots are bad for you!

Posted by: DHS, War on Drugs Division at April 16, 2013 08:22 AM (lZBBB)

166 123 I tend to think it's homegrown. Don't Islamic terrorists typically take credit for their acts of mayhem? __________ Look upthread. Bin Laden did not take credit for 9/11 till October of-- 2004.

Posted by: tasker at April 16, 2013 08:22 AM (r2PLg)

167 *white smoke We have a new pope?

Posted by: soothsayer at April 16, 2013 08:22 AM (LVtr+)

168 "I thought there would be a second bomb" seems more suggestive. For example by changing the tense of the sentence, you can easily get; I think there is a second bomb. I thought there is a second bomb. I think there was a second bomb. All with slightly different meanings. If the statement was from a 20 something year old American, product of the public school system, I still think they could screw up. Time to break out the rubber hose.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 16, 2013 08:22 AM (feFL6)

169 He's a quiet, devout Muslim - he couldn't do that': Neighbors' shock as police raid Boston home inked to burned Saudi student seized near race finish line http://tinyurl.com/bqrzz56

Posted by: Baldy at April 16, 2013 08:23 AM (opS9C)

170

Buying black-powder attracts more attention than some of the other potential materials. But it is somewhat more compact and relatively unsophisticated.

These were pretty small looking devices maybe pipe bomb sized. I don't think it would take but a couple of pounds of black powder to do, and since its sold by the pound, would it be tracked?

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 16, 2013 08:23 AM (t06LC)

171 BTW, that story that the authorities shut down cell service in Boston is bullshit.

Cellular Networks Were Flooded, Not Shut Down, After Boston Marathon Attack

http://tinyurl.com/czmb9qd

Posted by: kbdabear at April 16, 2013 08:24 AM (mCvL4)

172 O/T No one from the US government is going to Thatcher's Funeral? This was announced BEFORE the bombing. Everyone else in the world is sending someone. We cannot even spare slow Joe or the misses for a few days? Sadly, none of the former presidents are going either. GHW Bush must be in poor health. GW Bush would just incite the Thatcher hate even more. Carter is probably in Venezuela celebrating with the Castro-ites. If Hilary was really serious about running for president, she and BJ Clinton should have gone. Posted by: rd at April 16, 2013 12:17 PM (zLp5I) No one from this Administration, which may actually be a good thing but yes low class. VP Cheney is going as is former Sec Of State Baker and I think Kissinger also. And some flunkies from the Congress. Yes all in all a bad show by obama, but what do you expect?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 16, 2013 08:24 AM (9Bj8R)

173 The "tax day" angle is retarded. The victims were bystanders at a marathon. They serve no ideological purpose other than as "Americans." They were not military, gov't workers, financial workers, Jews, or any other group that is blamed for the world's ills by some loony group. They were simply "Americans." Barring the emergence of some Massachusetts separatist group, there is only one ideology that would seek the indiscriminate killing and maiming of this crowd: the Islamists. Which particular variant of Islam is the only unknown.

Posted by: wooga at April 16, 2013 08:24 AM (tZnI4)

174 you know who uses pressure cookers?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 16, 2013 08:24 AM (GVxQo)

175 Aren't pressure cookers big and F'n heavy?

Posted by: Knave at April 16, 2013 08:25 AM (cipri)

176 I am betting TATP not black powder.

Posted by: blaster at April 16, 2013 08:25 AM (pZDxu)

177 you know who uses pressure cookers? The French?

Posted by: zsasz at April 16, 2013 08:25 AM (MMC8r)

178 We're still around you know.

Posted by: IRA at April 16, 2013 08:25 AM (Cs2tJ)

179 Similar bomb configurations were apparently described in Inspire, al QaedaÂ’s magazine for amateure jihadis.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 16, 2013 12:20 PM (fwARV)

I was reading about that this morning in FrontPage Magazine.....

http://tinyurl.com/bqjgz3z

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 16, 2013 08:25 AM (X6akg)

180 WASHINGTON (AP) -- A person briefed on the Boston Marathon investigation says the explosives were in 6-liter pressure cookers and placed in black duffel bags. The person says the explosives were placed on the ground and contained shards of metal, nails and ball bearings. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the investigation was ongoing. ************ It might be that they just dropped the duffle bags, left them on the ground. Not sure--it could be that they dropped the duffle bags in trash cans near the area.

Posted by: tasker at April 16, 2013 08:25 AM (r2PLg)

181 Pressure cookers?

Loose black powder doesn't explode, it just burns. To get an explosion it needs to be contained in a pressure vessel of some sort- a closed pipe, rifle chamber, or in this case a pressure cooker.

Smokeless powder needs to build to higher pressure before it'll explode, black powder not as much.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 16, 2013 08:26 AM (SY2Kh)

182 Hotair linkef the NYT saying this is not the guy. "Late Monday night, law enforcement officials descended on an apartment building in the suburb of Revere, about five miles north of Copley Square, linked to a man the police took into custody near the scene of the bombings. But on Tuesday morning, one law enforcement official said investigators had determined that the man, who was injured in the blast and was questioned at the hospital,Â was not involved in the attack."

Posted by: Lauren at April 16, 2013 08:26 AM (wsGWu)

183 175 you know who uses pressure cookers? Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 16, 2013 12:24 PM (GVxQo) My mom does!!!!

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at April 16, 2013 08:26 AM (DGIjM)

184

Hello everyone from Sydney at 2.23 Wednesday morning...insomnia YAY!

The Boston Marathon is a true international event - it was on telly here on cable

153 Aussies were amongst the runners - all safe as well as their friends and rellies who were here with them

I've forgotten the secret coded way to link to stories but if any of you want to be cheered up by a nice doggie helps save owner story just go to the Daily Telegraph (Sydney) site via Bing and read about the kelpie who stayed with his owner for 4 days at a crash site

Love the pizza gifts for hospital staff - being an RN I know I always appreciated those kinds of gifts when I worked in a hospital

Posted by: aussie at April 16, 2013 08:26 AM (sYiPT)

185 Premature Jihadis?

Posted by: Knave at April 16, 2013 08:26 AM (cipri)

186 175 you know who uses pressure cookers? Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 16, 2013 12:24 PM (GVxQo) ************ Pali bombers?

Posted by: tasker at April 16, 2013 08:26 AM (r2PLg)

187 "Axeldork says TFG thinks it was because of tax day. So leave that poor Saudi lover of peace alone." He Axeldork really say that? Because, as a political animal, he should know better than to make a statement that specific that could later be proven to be false. Then again, he knows that the liberal media will give TFG a free pass on any missteps.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 16, 2013 08:26 AM (pyxdm)

188 >These were pretty small looking devices maybe pipe bomb sized. I don't think it would take but a couple of pounds of black powder to do, and since its sold by the pound, would it be tracked?<

Most places would take notice. Especially if your a shifty, loner looking type.

Most places I know selling that won't even sell it to certain individuals on a hunch.

You can bet the FBI is now looking at those purchases across a wide swath of the geography.

Posted by: Marcus at April 16, 2013 08:26 AM (GGCsk)

189 If only one was involved (libs are obsessed with attackers having to be a part of some group), there is precedent for Feds to label it "terrorism:" FBI, Justice: El Al attack was terrorismhttp://tinyurl.com/ycmlrtm

Posted by: Baldy at April 16, 2013 08:26 AM (opS9C)

190 you know who uses pressure cookers? Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 16, 2013 12:24 PM (GVxQo) Anyone that knows how to make smoked hocks and butter beans and does not feel like soaking the beans overninght.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 16, 2013 08:26 AM (l86i3)

191 Family Guy, Newton shooter who obsessed over media reports of other killing sprees...the next time the libs demand more laws against the 2nd Amendment, then I will demand laws against the 1st. Might actually be more effective, for example, to ban the publication of the killer's name or photos for example, for mass deaths.

Posted by: sexypig at April 16, 2013 08:26 AM (dZQh7)

192 146 And any of you teabagging wingnuts who mention Islamic terrorists are Islamaphobes! Posted by: Chris Matthews, Michael Moore, Bill Maher and every other liberal media douchebag at April 16, 2013 12:19 PM
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Just checked the Chris Matthews Book of Dogwhistles. Sure enough : 'Bomb'-- Racist codeword for 'Islamist'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 08:27 AM (aDwsi)

193 a black power bomb?

Posted by: ass meets fist at April 16, 2013 08:27 AM (x9s9/)

194 It has to be right wingers and not peace loving muslims because the Pakistani Taliban has denied involvement. The Koran forbids them from lying unlike those lying evil Christian Conservatives!

Posted by: Chris Matthews at April 16, 2013 08:27 AM (mCvL4)

195 But, y'all, his roommate, Mohammed, says roomie was "clean and quiet" and could not have done this!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 16, 2013 08:27 AM (baL2B)

196 TSA is announcing that no pressure cookers are now allowed in carry-on luggage.

Posted by: Roy at April 16, 2013 08:27 AM (VndSC)

197 fox report sys he is a saudi student here to student here to study english

Posted by: thunderb at April 16, 2013 08:27 AM (+afNf)

198 182 Pressure cookers? Loose black powder doesn't explode, it just burns. To get an explosion it needs to be contained in a pressure vessel of some sort- a closed pipe, rifle chamber, or in this case a pressure cooker. Smokeless powder needs to build to higher pressure before it'll explode, black powder not as much. Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 16, 2013 12:26 PM (SY2Kh) ***** Thanks. Now the other question-- How did they detonate that?

Posted by: tasker at April 16, 2013 08:27 AM (r2PLg)

199 My mom uses pressure cookers. She cans everything.

Posted by: Knave at April 16, 2013 08:28 AM (cipri)

200 Aren't pressure cookers big and F'n heavy?

Posted by: Knave

Is aluminium heavy?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 16, 2013 08:28 AM (5Hl3g)

201 Side note: Obama won't send anyone to Thatcher's funeral.

He is such a classless, arrogant ass.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 16, 2013 08:28 AM (Kpn/z)

202 Crap! So now I have to run out and stock up on pressure cookers before the hoarders get them..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 08:28 AM (aDwsi)

203 Assault pressure cookers. Mandatory waiting period. Background check. Mental health check.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 16, 2013 08:28 AM (feFL6)

204 And any of you teabagging wingnuts who mention Islamic terrorists are Islamaphobes! Posted by: Chris Matthews, Michael Moore. That's eurocentric Xenophobe to you commie POS.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 16, 2013 08:28 AM (l86i3)

205 "Haven't seen or heard one word of sympathy or anger from her, or her flock of facebook friends. Weird . . . Posted by: Haley's Buttery Biscuit" Because they view anything anti-American as perfectly understandable. Unfortunate for dead 8 year old or the person whose legs were blown off, but there you are.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 16, 2013 08:28 AM (pyxdm)

206 afghanistan pressure cooker IEDs last seen in afghanistan

Posted by: thunderb at April 16, 2013 08:29 AM (+afNf)

207 204Â Assault pressure cookers. Mandatory waiting period. Background check. Mental health check.Â Paleo dieters hardest hit.

Posted by: Lauren at April 16, 2013 08:29 AM (wsGWu)

208 198 fox report sys he is a saudi student here to student here to study english

You may want to consider filling his seat in class.

Posted by: Attila at April 16, 2013 08:29 AM (Cs2tJ)

209 Also, the low death toll...so far, and many legs being amputated. That has to be with bomb placement being low in the garbage can. Say 2 feet higher up and every amputee would be dead.

Posted by: sexypig at April 16, 2013 08:29 AM (dZQh7)

210 191 you know who uses pressure cookers?
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 16, 2013 12:24 PM (GVxQo)

Anyone that knows how to make smoked hocks and butter beans and does not feel like soaking the beans overninght.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 16, 2013 12:26 PM (l86i3)

My Mama used to use them. I thought they were pretty scary just with beans in them.

So...how did they get power? Battery? Fancy pressure-cookers run on solar? You can tell I am not a terrorist except when I invade the WaPo blogs and bat them around a little bit.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 16, 2013 08:29 AM (baL2B)

211 >>>As far as "smelled of gunpowder:" That's sort of suggestive but I do wonder-- wouldn't must people near the blast smell of gunpowder?

Ok, I do work with propellents so I'll spell it out.

Smokeless powder, what most people are referring to when they generically say "gunpowder" has virtually no odor prior to ignition, and only a mild odor after ignition. Not something you can pick up from someone's clothes and if you did, it meant they were exposed to burnt, not unburnt powder. It is also slow burning (relatively) so isn't used often to attempt to make explosives.

Black powder, commonly used to fire muzzle loaders, is very fast burning and has a distinctive odor of sulfur prior to burning and a horrendous odor of sulfur after burning. It creates large clouds of rotten egg smelling white smoke when burned that will permeate everything it comes into contact with. Simply having incidental contact with unburned black powder is not enough to impart a detectable odor. You would have to spill it on you. Which really means you are living life very dangerously.

Saying someone "smells" of gunpowder would mean most certainly that...

a. Black powder was used
b. Person so mentioned got caught in the smoke cloud.

The only real evidence pertaining to the explosive will be unburned powder detected someplace like in his apartment.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 16, 2013 08:29 AM (0q2P7)

212 Geat, now in all their wisdon, the leftards will start tracking anyone who attempts to buy a pressure cooker. Boston will become a not pressure cooker zone.

Posted by: maddogg at April 16, 2013 08:30 AM (OlN4e)

213 Oh, unless the anti-Americanism comes from the right such as McVeigh, then its horrible.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 16, 2013 08:30 AM (pyxdm)

214 >Side note: Obama won't send anyone to Thatcher's funeral.<

The money is targeted to be used for more family vacations in exotic locations.

Posted by: Marcus at April 16, 2013 08:30 AM (GGCsk)

215 reportedly they are searching cell tower record of the area pressure cooker IEDs were remotely detonated by cell or remote control

Posted by: thunderb at April 16, 2013 08:30 AM (+afNf)

216 I know we've been ragging on SE Cupp lately, but she has a good piece in the NY Daily News about the rather high number of jihadists living in the Boston area

S.E. Cupp ‏@secupp 6m

Boston's recent run-ins with terror: @nydailynews http://soa.li/EqegfrB

Posted by: kbdabear at April 16, 2013 08:30 AM (mCvL4)

217 From now on, if you are found in possession of a pressure-cooker, you will be deemed to possess 'bomb making materials'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 08:30 AM (aDwsi)

218 http://publicintelligence.net/ufouo-dhs-warning-on-pressure-cooker-ieds/

Posted by: blaster at April 16, 2013 08:30 AM (pZDxu)

219

I guess people have become lax because of our success at preventing this from happening since 9/11 until now.

Not too long ago, any unattended backpack or duffel bag would have immediately been noticed and reported.

Posted by: polynikes at April 16, 2013 08:30 AM (m2CN7)

220 176 Aren't pressure cookers big and F'n heavy?

Posted by: Knave at April 16, 2013 12:25 PM (cipri)

Fairly large... but the news ones are fairly light....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 16, 2013 08:31 AM (lZBBB)

221 How did they detonate that?

Posted by: tasker at April 16, 2013 12:27 PM (r2PLg)

CBS reports our Saudi student has burns on his hands. If (big if) thats him, my guess is simple fuse like a firework.

Posted by: Jollyroger at April 16, 2013 08:31 AM (t06LC)

222 Insty links to an article saying the cellular networks were overloaded, not shut down.

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/167164/

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 16, 2013 08:31 AM (nbX4o)

223 202 Side note: Obama won't send anyone to Thatcher's funeral.

He is such a classless, arrogant ass.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 16, 2013 12:28 PM (Kpn/z)

He wasn't going to BEFORE the massacre of terror in Boston. Now he can use that as a convenient excuse. As he and Mooch (and her bangs) have to show up and grieve.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 16, 2013 08:31 AM (baL2B)

224 I've got a propellant-beanie hat. I put it on for parties as a gag or when I'm scheduled to act as President of the Senate.

Posted by: joey biden at April 16, 2013 08:31 AM (mGBy8)

225 Fox News: Saudi National Suspected Of Involvement In Boston Terror Attack Named Abdul Rahman Ali AlharbiÂ… Ali Alharbi is on the left. Weasel Zippers: Look at the nose on that guy. Are we sure he ain't a Jooo!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 16, 2013 08:32 AM (9Bj8R)

226 The only thing that makes me think it would not be a middle east terrorist is that it was a highly planned attack performed by a highly competent group or person. # Algiers ring a bell? Therein, the Algerians fought alongside the French Resistance v. fascists for Liberty, first for France with the French promise to grant Algerian Independence. Not funny, how the rag-tag French Resistance communists turned "for the glory of France" against their Algerian comrades, from Vicci and beyond de Gaulle.

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 16, 2013 08:32 AM (MhA4j)

227 15 Yesterday my liberal Boston friend was upset over the use of the word "coward" to describe the bomber. Today she's upset that CNN showed Tagg Romney doing a sort of lame chest-thumping routine. Haven't seen or heard one word of sympathy or anger from her, or her flock of facebook friends. Weird . . .

Posted by: Haley's Buttery Biscuit at April 16, 2013 11:54 AM (Kx+LC)

"friend"?

Posted by: barack obama as Augustus at April 16, 2013 08:32 AM (4eNxd)

228 Maybe the color coded system was not such a bad thing. It kept people aware of the ongoing danger of terrorism.

Posted by: polynikes at April 16, 2013 08:32 AM (m2CN7)

229 My Mama used to use them. I thought they were pretty scary just with beans in them. So...how did they get power? Battery? Fancy pressure-cookers run on solar? You can tell I am not a terrorist except when I invade the WaPo blogs and bat them around a little bit. Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 16, 2013 12:29 PM (baL2B) My mom was making green beans and the shaker on top stuck. It blew all the green beans through the pressure reliefe valve. We had green beens and pork fat dripping off the ceiling. Something you will never here in the south, "Do you think those green beans are overcooked?"

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 16, 2013 08:32 AM (l86i3)

230 Well, if Methodists had been involved, the pressure cookers would have been full of bean soup. The scaldings would have been horrific, however.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 16, 2013 08:32 AM (lVPtV)

231 Axeldork really say that? Because, as a political animal, he should know better than to make a statement that specific that could later be proven to be false. In this day of ignorant American voters, it's smart politics. First impressions are the most important. See: Availability heuristic

Posted by: soothsayer at April 16, 2013 08:33 AM (vyPsz)

232 Buy the way, its not crazy to consider a right wing wacko for this. In fact, there is at least some reason behind why maybe it could be. But there are plenty of left wing kooks too, and the omission by the media is what is annoying.

Posted by: sexypig at April 16, 2013 08:33 AM (dZQh7)

233 Background checks to but place before purchase of Presto cooker is allowed

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 08:33 AM (aDwsi)

234 When I was a kid, I thought the most beautiful smell in the woods was the smell of burnt .22 powder. It was heavenly. But smokless has only mild odor, and mostly kids smell it strongly.

Posted by: maddogg at April 16, 2013 08:33 AM (OlN4e)

235

Guzzling less cum wouldn't have helped us deal with this. Burp. Pffft.

Posted by: Barney Frank at April 16, 2013 08:33 AM (x9s9/)

236 Thanks.

Now the other question--

How did they detonate that?

We don't know. Could've been as simple as a lit fuse, might have been by remote. Jihadis in Afghanistan were known to use parts from toy remote controlled cars to build IEDs.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 16, 2013 08:33 AM (SY2Kh)

237 Are we at threat level chartreuse yet?

Posted by: Knave at April 16, 2013 08:33 AM (cipri)

238 Posted by: SarahW at April 16, 2013 12:19 PM (LYwCh)

Yeah, I've wondered about a lot of these details also.

Reports say the guy is 'burned' or 'badly burned'. If he were that close to the blast, does he not also have shrapnel wounds? Something doesn't add up here.

But just for the hell of it, let's say you are very close to the blast. You are burned, shocked, run away (total human reaction, when on fire, run). You get tackled. Somewhere along the line a cop asks you some questions. You thought there was another explosion besides the one that went off next to you, and you want to know if anyone was killed.

Harmless in and of itself. But there are soooo many details that remain unanswered that it's impossible to get any clear idea of what really happened.

Posted by: HH at April 16, 2013 08:33 AM (XXwdv)

239 >>>Pressure cookers?

That would make since for a gunpowder of some sort.
Gunpowder is considered a "low explosive" meaning that the gas producing reaction occurs in tandem with the flame front, not the shock wave front. These types of explosives will not "explode" unless they are confined they just burn very rapidly.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 16, 2013 08:33 AM (0q2P7)

240 Edit
234 Background checks to be conducted before purchase of Presto cooker is allowed
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 12:33 PM

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 08:34 AM (aDwsi)

241 Side note: Obama won't send anyone to Thatcher's funeral.

He is such a classless, arrogant ass.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 16, 2013 12:28 PM (Kpn/z)

I'm sure his drunk, deadbeat polygamist sperm donor hated Thatcher as did his nympho tramp mother. There's no way the emotionally fragile JEF would ever consider doing something that reflects well on the country if it doesn't work for him personally.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 16, 2013 08:34 AM (Ji2FX)

242 220 I guess people have become lax because of our success at preventing this from happening since 9/11 until now. Not too long ago, any unattended backpack or duffel bag would have immediately been noticed and reported. Posted by: polynikes at April 16, 2013 12:30 PM (m2CN7) Have you ever ran a marathon? People throw off cheap backpacks along the entire route full of clothes and water after they can no longer hold them, or simply to run more comfortably. I myself threw off a backbpack after I had ate all my protein bars and drank the water in it. There would be no way to check all those bags.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at April 16, 2013 08:34 AM (++kZl)

243 Odd thing, protesting a funeral. As if Thatcher's opposition would have her be alive. RIP

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 16, 2013 08:34 AM (MhA4j)

244 PREPPERS!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 16, 2013 08:34 AM (GVxQo)

245 "CBS reports our Saudi student has burns on his hands. If (big if) thats him, my guess is simple fuse like a firework." Really?

Posted by: sexypig at April 16, 2013 08:35 AM (dZQh7)

246 235 When I was a kid, I thought the most beautiful smell in the woods was the smell of burnt .22 powder. It was heavenly. But smokless has only mild odor, and mostly kids smell it strongly. Posted by: maddogg at April 16, 2013 12:33 PM
========

The smell of leaded gasoline, without all of the stinky additives.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 16, 2013 08:35 AM (aDwsi)

247 My mom makes chicken broth with her pressure cooker.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at April 16, 2013 08:35 AM (DGIjM)

248 PREPPERS!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 16, 2013 12:34 PM (GVxQo) Only one thing better than being a prepper, having a best friend who is a prepper.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 16, 2013 08:35 AM (l86i3)

249 Would Algiers qualify as 'middle-east?' It's as far west as France. (/academic side-question)

Posted by: zsasz at April 16, 2013 08:35 AM (MMC8r)

250

"Aren't pressure cookers big and F'n heavy?"

What are fucking saying, honkey?

Posted by: Queen Michelle Obama at April 16, 2013 08:36 AM (x9s9/)

251 "I picture erg as a Bob Beckel type. Fat, stupid, drunk always shooting off his big uneducated mouth Posted by: TheQuietMan" Fox hasn't done an on air intervention for him yet? As I've said, Gutfeld, O'Reilly, hot Fox News Women in leg chairs acting all caring and concerned and what not.Chance that Beckel might go batshit crazy on air. Ratings bonanza.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 16, 2013 08:36 AM (pyxdm)

252 Rush is talking about TFG's BFF Billy Ayers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 16, 2013 08:36 AM (lVPtV)

253 Again, why were the garbage cans not removed? Isn't that SOP? The French do it for this exact reason.

Posted by: sexypig at April 16, 2013 08:36 AM (dZQh7)

254 243. Drum roll for the new, improved rules... But really, the marathon provided water stops, etc., and likely had a locker facility for participants that should/would have been secure. Right?

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 16, 2013 08:36 AM (MhA4j)

255 248 My mom makes chicken broth with her pressure cooker.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at April 16, 2013 12:35 PM
=============

Interesting..., and where, exactly, does your mother reside?

Posted by: BATF at April 16, 2013 08:37 AM (aDwsi)

256 Now I see why they retarded fat TSA cretins were feeling up old ladies at the airport. They were searching for pressure cookers.

Posted by: Knave at April 16, 2013 08:37 AM (cipri)

257 >>>Aren't pressure cookers big and F'n heavy?

take a stove top 1 gallon hula dancer style pressure cooker, saw the handles off, you're looking at about a foot across and a foot deep.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 16, 2013 08:37 AM (0q2P7)

258 again, these types of IEDs were popular in Afghanistan

Posted by: thunderb at April 16, 2013 08:37 AM (+afNf)

259 OK, bombs not in garbage cans. Maybe those were removed. Sorry for my posts about that.

Posted by: sexypig at April 16, 2013 08:38 AM (dZQh7)

260 253 Rush is talking about TFG's BFF Billy Ayers.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 16, 2013 12:36 PM
=============

(fingers in ears) La, la, la, la, la......

Posted by: Liberal Media at April 16, 2013 08:39 AM (aDwsi)

261 If they weren't in garbage cans what were they in?

Posted by: Knave at April 16, 2013 08:39 AM (cipri)

262 If they weren't in garbage cans what were they in? Posted by: Knave at April 16, 2013 12:39 PM (cipri) I would think a backpack.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 16, 2013 08:40 AM (l86i3)

263 prolly backpacks in the crowd on the pavement. thousands of people there most if not all carrying some sort of bag

Posted by: thunderb at April 16, 2013 08:40 AM (+afNf)

264

FBI before attack: No imminent threat.

FBI after attack: No imminent threat.

Posted by: FBIDBsSA at April 16, 2013 08:40 AM (x9s9/)

265 axelrod, still astroturfing and 'helping' the media find a particular meme.

"it was tax day.

"Former White House adviser David Axelrod said Tuesday President Barack Obama did not immediately call MondayÂ’s Boston bombings a Â“terrorist attackÂ” because it could have been related to Â“tax day,Â” The Weekly Standard reports.

"The word has taken on a different meaning since 9/11. You use those words and it means something very specific in peopleÂ’s mind," Axelrod told NBC News' Chuck Todd. "And IÂ’m sure what was going through the presidentÂ’s mind is Â— we really donÂ’t know who did this Â— it was tax day."

because people that would prefer their taxes not be overwhelming , that govt doesn't make others pay for what people should supply for themselves and a tax form be easier to assimilate and fill out,
are complainers and potential terrorists .

but mainly potential terrorists that kill innocent citizens at an american traditional marathon !

this rambling shit by MFM and Obama's buddies isn't a bit malicious or dangerous to public cohesiveness.

Posted by: willow at April 16, 2013 08:40 AM (nqBYe)

266 Side note: Obama won't send anyone to Thatcher's funeral.

He is such a classless, arrogant ass.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 16, 2013 12:28 PM (Kpn/z)

Barry: The Mau Mau war never ends you honkies.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 16, 2013 08:40 AM (1Jaio)

267 New thread peeps.

Posted by: tasker at April 16, 2013 08:41 AM (r2PLg)

268 They had a lot of jacket and souvenir looking yellow stuff.

Posted by: Knave at April 16, 2013 08:41 AM (cipri)

269 I picture erg as a Bob Beckel type. Fat, stupid, drunk always shooting off his big uneducated mouth

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 16, 2013 12:21 PM (1Jaio)

I always picture him as looking something like the Gollum in Lord of the Rings, but with duller teeth.

Posted by: kathysaysso at April 16, 2013 08:41 AM (6H6o8)

270 Also explains the lower extremities being hit.

Posted by: sexypig at April 16, 2013 08:41 AM (dZQh7)

271 If the Saudi angle holds (and it will - any homegrown "anti-tax terrorist" would've targeted an IRS office or similar place), I wonder how many of Obama's agenda items are undercut by this asshole: 1) Student visa? Did he overstay? Was he properly vetted before being allowed in? 2) Is he here illegally? 3) How would gun control have stopped the act of terror? Answer: it wouldn't. 4) Will Obama/Reid try to ram the gun control and immigration bills through over the next few days before this guy's info is released, esp. if he's here illegally or overstayed his visa?

Posted by: Love that dirty water at April 16, 2013 08:42 AM (j2lYi)

272 its gonna take some time to tie this to a tea partier but at least the Saudi government is "helping" us with the "investigation"

Posted by: thunderb at April 16, 2013 08:42 AM (+afNf)

273 250 szasz you know the popular point of critical incompetency is applied against Muslims -- whether African, Arabian Peninsula, all regions east of Greece, and Pakistan/India, or immigrants to the Americas. And the French "learned" the hard way, without learning. Ethnic sense of superiority has no borders.

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 16, 2013 08:42 AM (MhA4j)

274 So that DHS memo says that the Times Square bomber had a pressure cooker bomb with 120 firecrackers in it.

Posted by: blaster at April 16, 2013 08:44 AM (pZDxu)

275 222 How did they detonate that? Posted by: tasker at April 16, 2013 12:27 PM (r2PLg) CBS reports our Saudi student has burns on his hands. If (big if) thats him, my guess is simple fuse like a firework. Posted by: Jollyroger at April 16, 2013 12:31 PM (t06LC) We don't know. Could've been as simple as a lit fuse, might have been by remote. Jihadis in Afghanistan were known to use parts from toy remote controlled cars to build IEDs. Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 16, 2013 12:33 PM (SY2Kh) ********** Got it. Hell first I am hearing about the burnt hands.

Posted by: tasker at April 16, 2013 08:44 AM (r2PLg)

276

>> Can someone drop the banhammer on the supermax asshole?

Yes, I can.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at April 16, 2013 08:47 AM (WvXvd)

277 "Yes, I can."

heh...

Don't mess with Texas.

Posted by: HH at April 16, 2013 08:50 AM (XXwdv)

278 "supermax", eh? Well, that explains his enormous asshole...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 16, 2013 08:56 AM (VH1dL)

279 he is holding a pipe in that one pic

Posted by: akak at April 16, 2013 08:57 AM (b4+D1)

280 149 Meanwhile, in Albany...
http://preview.tinyurl.com/csfwlcn
(h/t to Blackfive)
Reports indicate Hissy Chrissy on PMSNBC is about to claim this was a Tea Party false flag attack. the old super duper double reverse quadruple false flag?

Posted by: maxwell smart at April 16, 2013 09:10 AM (nBE5A)

281 Family Guy ran a Boson Marathon Bombing scenario on March the 17th. Cell phone triggered. My sympathies to the creators. http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1985/ -Steve-Canyon-Comic-Strip-Plot-Mimics-TWA-Hijacking-With-PM-Hijacking-Bjt /id-58ef64c17e5438c0e66249b517b3dab5 Remove linefeeds

Posted by: Milt Caniff at April 16, 2013 09:12 AM (qYDVx)

282 take a stove top 1 gallon hula dancer style pressure cooker...

Wha? What does a hula dancer have to do with a pressure cooker? Does it have a part on top that waggles back and forth? (Boom...phrasing!)

The ones I've seen have a pressure release valve, and sometimes a gauge.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 16, 2013 09:13 AM (WhJf8)

283 Got it.

Hell first I am hearing about the burnt hands.

Posted by: tasker at April 16, 2013 12:44 PM (r2PLg)

Mohammed, his roommate of two months, said this burnt hand guy is "clean and quiet." We must, we must, believe him! (Or, in my Redneck Queen's mind, nope).

Plane stopped at Logan today due to two Arabs talking' a-rab. They did not want to "offend" marathoners on plane. Something tells me that Boston is not falling for the "right-wingers" to blame for this.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates politically correct, wants truth at April 16, 2013 09:26 AM (baL2B)

284 261 axelrod, still astroturfing and 'helping' the media find a particular meme.

"it was tax day.

Huh. Do those Occupy types pay taxes....you know, those guys who wanted to blow up a bridge last summer (I think. Not sure what year this is anymore).

Posted by: ChristyBlinky hates politically correct, wants truth at April 16, 2013 09:28 AM (baL2B)

285 Odd thing, protesting a funeral.

As if Thatcher's opposition would have her be alive.

RIP

Posted by: panzernashorn

***

They blame her for their current situation which was actually caused by socialism.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 16, 2013 09:30 AM (uhftQ)

286 Oh, that smell of gunpowder thing. It's potassium nitrate. A common mistake because most folks smell that way after they've made a pact with the devil.

Posted by: Jose Wales at April 16, 2013 09:41 AM (lPbS1)

287 From what I read last night...the reported apartment the cops searched was of a 34 yr old Moroccan guy named Mounir Rhoulam of 364 Ocean Avenue, Apt, 209. Not the Saudi (unless they are roommates?). He's been in trouble before for abuse. So not completely sure if the police were taking bags out of his apartment regarding the Boston bombing or not.

Posted by: Rachel at April 16, 2013 01:44 PM (Kv9iV)

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