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September 08, 2013

Saudi's sign up for Syria strike plan
— Purple Avenger

Moral support and participating are two different things, but this WaPo piece suggests the Saudis are willing to participate

...Saudi Arabia has strongly indicated in recent weeks that it would participate in a U.S.-led strike against Syria, but has not said so explicitly...

Its rumored the Saudis have a bunch of Brit Storm Shadow ALCM's⁽¹⁾ that could be launched from their jazzy new Eurofighter Typhoons. The Storm Shadow cruise doesn't have anywhere near the legs the US TLAM⁽²⁾ variants do, but it hits pretty hard and is a smidge faster. Storm Shadow needs you to get within a hundred miles or so of the target before cutting it loose.

Presumably the Saudis obtained all that trick cruise hardware and Typhoon launch platforms to keep Iran's aspirations at bay. Whether they'd be willing to expend some of it elsewhere is an open question at this point since obtaining it wasn't exactly non-trivial political exercise.

(1) ALCM = Air Launched Cruise Missile
(2) TLAM = Tomahawk Land Attack Missile

Bonus: a classic Boris Johnson rant about Brit swimming pools and how they were installed in response to global warming fears. When Boris stinks, he stinks bad, but when he's on, he's really on. He's in top form this time.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 04:10 PM | Comments (335)
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1 gee, what could possibly go wrong

Posted by: jj at September 08, 2013 08:32 AM (gWO5X)

woohoo, first first

Posted by: jj at September 08, 2013 08:33 AM (gWO5X)

3 Haven't the Saudis caused us enough trouble? When can we draw up strike plans on them? Serious You Guys.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 08, 2013 08:33 AM (jucos)

4 What's the payload? Kaboom!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 08, 2013 08:34 AM (JawqV)

5 Woohoo, Barry! Sign us up for the Middle Eastern Arab Treaty Organization, MEATO.

Posted by: t-bird at September 08, 2013 08:34 AM (FcR7P)

6 What's the payload?

Similar payload capacity to Tomahawks, just a lot less legs

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 08:36 AM (9MLX+)

Didn't I see this one flashing on WOPR at the end of War Games?

Posted by: Beagle at September 08, 2013 08:36 AM (sOtz/)

8 Awesome. They won't be needing us.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at September 08, 2013 08:37 AM (4p5/2)

9 They'll need in flight refueling which they have and permission to fly over Iraq. They'll do it if given the opportunity to tell Iran to f-off. Frankly muzzies killing muzzies is fine with me just leave the Christians alone. Moral dilemma for Obarky, raghead on raghead violence. I wonder if the Iranians will use their Air Force to help Assad. Interesting to see Western-Western aircraft battles; not since the Falklands and the Iran-Iraq war.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at September 08, 2013 08:40 AM (RXQ2T)

10 Doesn't active participation open them up to retaliatory strikes against their oil operations?

And oil prices going to brand new heights?

Obama's Bombdrops of The Vanities just might have some very unpleasant economic side effects that the LIV can't ignore

Posted by: kbdabear at September 08, 2013 08:41 AM (/9IC1)

And on this note, I'm off to the GDette's B'Day party.

Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 08, 2013 08:42 AM (0HooB)

12 Of corse they are willing to participate. The Syrian regeim is pro-shite, and the insurgents are sunni radicals.

Posted by: DocMerlin at September 08, 2013 08:44 AM (9/c6c)

13 I'm gonna put this back in draft for a while

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 08:45 AM (9MLX+)

14 This is a good development for me, because I've got Saudi Arabia in the fantasy Arab League.

Posted by: t-bird at September 08, 2013 08:45 AM (FcR7P)

Let's just let the Saudis do this on their own, then.

America is NOT the world's Mommy/Daddy - and even if we are, at some point, smart parents tell their kids to "work it out among yourselves".

Funny how stuff gets resolved when the children aren't able to pit one parent against another, isn't it?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at September 08, 2013 08:46 AM (PZ6/M)

16 Okay, I get it. The Saudis commanded Obama to attack Syria, and he's just
trying to do their bidding. Isn't that what's going on here?

Posted by: Dave W at September 08, 2013 08:46 AM (CYS6Q)

17 Doesn't active participation open them up to retaliatory strikes against their oil operations? Shh! Kerry's on a roll...

Posted by: t-bird at September 08, 2013 08:47 AM (FcR7P)

18 Frack the shale. Startup the nuclear reactors. Burn the coal and the natural gas. And kiss the Middle East goodbye. When they have killed themselves off, we'll move in and have some great beach front property. Thank God for Columbus and the fact my folks were smart enough to leave their respective shitholes and get over here to the USA.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at September 08, 2013 08:48 AM (RXQ2T)

19 Saudi got the US back? That settles that, I'm outta here. Later Assad.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at September 08, 2013 08:50 AM (mETGQ)

20 Is something fubar with this post?

Posted by: Peaches at September 08, 2013 08:56 AM (8lmkt)

21 uh... blank?

Posted by: Patrick in Michigan at September 08, 2013 09:53 AM (OhrW4)

22 Storm Shadow? Someone watched too much G.I. Joe as a kid.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 08, 2013 04:12 PM (i2Z0o)

23 Do it yourself, fuckheads. Go ahead.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at September 08, 2013 04:15 PM (LrtBB)

24 .

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 04:16 PM (9MLX+)

25 Saudis love turmoil in the region. They and OPEC love any excuse to jack up oil prices. Supply and Demand, my ass. Market Forces, my ass.

Posted by: soothie at September 08, 2013 04:18 PM (/sRjO)

26 Of course they support the strike, they've got a pipeline to Europe that they want to send through... Which of course Russia and Iran don't want to go through..

NO WAR FOR OIL !!1!

Posted by: phreshone at September 08, 2013 04:18 PM (Pr6hk)

27 In Soviet Amerika House of Saud support YOU!

Pretty funny that suddenly now some nations "count" in coalitioning again

Posted by: Sven10077's subpar piety at September 08, 2013 04:19 PM (9jfyN)

28 16 Dave W,

You get it...you got the gag...

Posted by: Sven10077's subpar piety at September 08, 2013 04:20 PM (9jfyN)

29

~~NO WAR FOR OIL~~

(crickets)

Posted by: Typical Lefty at September 08, 2013 04:20 PM (Pr6hk)

30 For some, war is good for business.

Posted by: soothie at September 08, 2013 04:21 PM (/sRjO)

31 They've also been releasing their prisoners from Death Row, to fight in Syria, sort of a 100 Dirty Dozens on their part.

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at September 08, 2013 04:21 PM (Jsiw/)

32 War is an efficient way to cure unemployment

Posted by: Joseph Stalin at September 08, 2013 04:22 PM (Pr6hk)

33 How are the Saudis at fighting? Better or worse than let's say......the Egyptians?

Posted by: EC at September 08, 2013 04:23 PM (doBIb)

34 Fact: Faith Hill > Carrie Underwood. That is all. Carry on witht the plan of the day.

Posted by: DC in Towson at September 08, 2013 04:23 PM (ZFinx)

35 I want the Syrian Strike plan, with unlimited International minutes, free texting to my "Besties", unlimited data and E-mail, plus the cool mouse pad I saw in SkyMall.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 08, 2013 04:23 PM (ZshNr)

36 I can't believe nobody has talked about the effect a strike could have in inciting more Sunni/jihadist violence in Iraq. Whatever we gain in Syria we lose in Iraq.

Posted by: KJC at September 08, 2013 04:25 PM (LmD/o)

37 How about the Saudis and other Arab countries attack Syria while we watch? That seems a bit more logical and fruitful.

Posted by: eman at September 08, 2013 04:26 PM (AO9UG)

38 The Saudis actually fighting on their own for real? I'll believe it when I see it. Shoot a few missiles and then go home and declare victory, maybe? But hey that's what obama intends to do also anyway

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 04:26 PM (jE38p)

39 A crater in Damascus is a hill in Baghdad. Nope, doesn't work.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 08, 2013 04:26 PM (ZshNr)

40 Well the Saudi Mercenary Army of Al Qaeda is already boots on the ground so.....

Posted by: Beto at September 08, 2013 04:27 PM (MhA4j)

41 Whatever we gain in Syria we lose in Iraq. Posted by: KJC at September 08, 2013 08:25 PM (LmD/o) obama already bugged out of Iraq with out any status of force agreement. we already lost Iraq lock stock and barrel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 04:27 PM (jE38p)

42 LORD OF WAR starring Nick Cage was a mediocre flick but it aptly addressed the absurdity of war and the powers that be.

Posted by: soothie at September 08, 2013 04:27 PM (/sRjO)

43 Cobraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Posted by: Storm Shadow Missile at September 08, 2013 04:28 PM (4iRJI)

44 There has to be a picture of Rumsfeld shaking Assad's hand around here someplace.

Posted by: eman at September 08, 2013 04:28 PM (AO9UG)

45 Saudis attack Syria, Iran attacks Saudi oil wells. I pay more for gas And the hits just keep on coming

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 04:29 PM (jE38p)

46 Romo or Eli? Who wins?

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 08, 2013 04:29 PM (ZshNr)

47 Saudis should watch for the Iranian left hook....

Posted by: ET at September 08, 2013 04:30 PM (YpjaN)

48 41 Nevergiveup,

I'm a La-Z-boy we not be needin' no Sofa!

Posted by: Preznit Urkle X at September 08, 2013 04:30 PM (9jfyN)

49 Wait, so the rulers of Mecca and the center of religious power of the Sunni universe want to strike a military blow against the hated Shia? Who could have predicted that?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 04:30 PM (ZPrif)

50 I see all the players have back themselves and each other into a corner. Trying to outdo 1914 is quite a tempting goal, I see.

Posted by: eman at September 08, 2013 04:31 PM (AO9UG)

51 I'm certainly not antiwar. But I hate the fact that The Worst People have a knack for benefiting from war. Lobbyists, politicians, lawyers, and corporatists will walk away from the carnage a little bit richer.

Posted by: soothie at September 08, 2013 04:32 PM (/sRjO)

52 Well that sucked

Posted by: Eli at September 08, 2013 04:32 PM (jE38p)

53 49 Flatbush Joe,

Why it is ALMOST like those creepy ass crackas who were saying "let them fight it the fuck out for a decade or two" thought I wouldn't pick my Dad's side!

HAHA

Posted by: Preznit Urkle X at September 08, 2013 04:32 PM (9jfyN)

54 There has to be a picture of Rumsfeld shaking Assad's hand around here someplace. Posted by: eman at September 08, 2013 Nahhh...but there's a whole crapload of Kerry, Pelosi and democrat congressmen

Posted by: Beto at September 08, 2013 04:32 PM (MhA4j)

55 42 LORD OF WAR starring Nick Cage was a mediocre flick but it aptly addressed the absurdity of war and the powers that be. Posted by: soothie at September 08, 2013 08:27 PM (/sRjO) It was a stupid movie guilty of trying to have the previews look like a movie that it wasn't.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 08, 2013 04:32 PM (Ee/rX)

56 OOPS

Eli throws a pick 1st play of the game

DAL 1st down at NY 15

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:32 PM (8sCoq)

57 SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 04:33 PM (jE38p)

58 found a rumsfeld/Saddam handshake pic

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:33 PM (8sCoq)

59 I'm, being followed by a Storm Shadow. Storm Shadow, Storm Shadow.

Posted by: Yusuf Islam at September 08, 2013 04:33 PM (HYFht)

60 Eli likes to ease himself into competence. Then he likes to win Super Bowls, the bastid.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 08, 2013 04:34 PM (ZshNr)

61 Collapse of American Influence Recalls Dis-Integration of Soviet Union, Fall of France By CONRAD BLACK, Special to the Sun | September 7, 2013 Print Send Comment Share Not since the disintegration of the Soviet Union in 1991, and prior to that the fall of France in 1940, has there been so swift an erosion of the world influence of a Great Power as we are witnessing with the United States. What we are witnessing now in the United States, by contrast, is just the backwash of inept policy-making in Washington, and nothing that could not eventually be put right. But for this administration to redeem its credibility now would require a change of direction and method so radical it would be the national equivalent of the comeback of Lazarus: a miraculous revolution in the condition of an individual (President Obama), and a comparable metamorphosis (or a comprehensive replacement) of the astonishingly implausible claque around him. nysun.com

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 04:34 PM (jE38p)

62 Saudis attack Syria, Iran attacks Saudi oil wells.

I don't know if Iran has that much love for Syria. Its rumored the Saudis bought about 300 or so of these Storm Shadows. That could put a major crimp on Iran's gulf oil terminals if they held a couple hundred back for Iran.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 04:34 PM (9MLX+)

63 found a rumsfeld/Saddam handshake pic Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 I saw that. It was a secret Illuminati grip too...

Posted by: Beto at September 08, 2013 04:35 PM (MhA4j)

64 58 Jones in CO,

http://tinyurl.com/pruze24

TRUMP!

TRUMP!

I may not beat that chicken but I will keep f**king that chicken!

Posted by: Juan McCain Moderate Major Asshole at September 08, 2013 04:35 PM (9jfyN)

65 Eli likes to ease himself into competence. Then he likes to win Super Bowls, the bastid. *** It's not officially a game until Eli gets picked off. So...

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 04:35 PM (DmNpO)

66 friggin cowboys HAVE 1ST DOWN AT ny 15 AND END UP kicking a field goal

FAIL

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:36 PM (8sCoq)

67 I don't know if Iran has that much love for Syria. Its rumored the Saudis bought about 300 or so of these Storm Shadows. That could put a major crimp on Iran's gulf oil terminals if they held a couple hundred back for Iran. Posted by: Purp at September 08, 2013 08:34 PM (9MLX+) The Saudi's are gutless bastards and to afraid of anything happening to their precious oil. I mean G-D forbid they actually have to go to work to make a living.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 04:36 PM (jE38p)

68 61 Collapse of American Influence Well Obama has finally succeeded at a something he aspired to do as a boy....

Posted by: Beto at September 08, 2013 04:37 PM (MhA4j)

69 so what's the deal here, are we fighting opecs war , for europe , european energy war. against Russians movement of gas lines needs/ to control europe ?

why don't we allow sauds, europeans to fight this war. we'll stand on the side lines and throw in after they have wiped Themselves out?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 04:37 PM (nqBYe)

70 Can somebody please explain to me why you are automatically assumed to be a libertarian isolationist if you are on the right and think this proposed war is stupid?

Posted by: KJC at September 08, 2013 04:37 PM (LmD/o)

71 That pool rant is fantastic.

Posted by: Beagle at September 08, 2013 04:38 PM (sOtz/)

72 70 KJC,

because it is SO MUCH EASIER for my wing to you know just label you than argue....

remember "birther" or "Benghazist"?

Posted by: Juan McCain Moderate Major Asshole at September 08, 2013 04:38 PM (9jfyN)

73 Can somebody please explain to me why you are automatically assumed to be a libertarian isolationist if you are on the right and think this proposed war is stupid? Posted by: KJC at September 08, 2013 08:37 PM (LmD/o) Well I am probably against this war and you would probably call me a Neocon, and not mean it as a compliment, but I just don't like siding with Al Quada and radical muzzies.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 04:39 PM (jE38p)

74 I seem to remember the Left constantly demanding the Bush twins enlist to fight in Iraq. Maybe the goose and the gander can agree to send Malia and Sasha to Syria..

Posted by: soothie at September 08, 2013 04:39 PM (/sRjO)

75 Can somebody please explain to me why you are automatically assumed to be a libertarian isolationist if you are on the right and think this proposed war is stupid? **** That time has passed. What, until recently, would have garnered screams of "ISOLATIONIST!" at Rand Paul, is now seen as just simple common sense.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 04:39 PM (DmNpO)

76 71 Beagle,

Present!

Posted by: Bark Diver Ogabe at September 08, 2013 04:39 PM (9jfyN)

77 Saudi oil is heroin and the world is hooked on it. If it were suddenly cut off, fracking would become the new cute puppy the Left would say it always loved.

Posted by: eman at September 08, 2013 04:40 PM (AO9UG)

78 now that we have had our president stick his mouth into this.

who will be the winner?
Putin/ will have control over europe and east asia ?
or sauds and opec will have control over europe and east asia?

what are WE getting out of this but bitter dregs of being kicked around?

someone explain the end game here?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 04:40 PM (nqBYe)

79 There are also pictures of the recredescent Howard Metzenbaum shaking Saddam Hussein's hand. And of course, the Anna Wintour tongue bath in Vogue about the Assad family in 2010. Ah, remembering the oldies. And the idiotic Nancy Pelosi visiting Assad. The devil does indeed wear Prada. And whores, too, apparently.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at September 08, 2013 04:40 PM (v6hyJ)

80 NY 1st n goal

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:40 PM (8sCoq)

81 77 Eman,

You sank my battleship!

Posted by: Bark Diver Ogabe at September 08, 2013 04:41 PM (9jfyN)

82 Damnit Gnats!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 04:41 PM (DmNpO)

83 NY fumbles

DAL 1st down at their 5

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:41 PM (8sCoq)

84 NO WAR FOR OIL !!1!
No! No! To laying pipe!
Fuck Obama's stupid tripe!!!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 08, 2013 04:41 PM (7zANx)

85 I mean G-D forbid they actually have to go to work to make a living.

Actually, the king recognized that as a genuine social issue a while ago and started to incrementally address it over the past 10 years or so.

The Saudis have quietly been cutting back on the number of foreign workers and getting their own people trained up for those jobs that had previously been farmed out.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 04:41 PM (9MLX+)

86 and back to assad vs al quada , alnusra, Mb.

what is the winning side here? morally for america?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 04:41 PM (nqBYe)

87 NY 1st n goal Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 08:40 PM (8sCoq) Well we'll see about that

Posted by: The Ball at September 08, 2013 04:41 PM (jE38p)

88 If there was ever any doubt about whom Kerry was talking about as being willing to finance our mercenary war against Syria, this has dispelled it.

Posted by: Splunge at September 08, 2013 04:42 PM (bKA83)

89 qaeda*

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 04:42 PM (nqBYe)

90 Well, looks like David Wilson is starting this year off just like the last one.

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2013 04:42 PM (fOFYL)

91 Actually, the king recognized that as a genuine social issue a while ago and started to incrementally address it over the past 10 years or so. The Saudis have quietly been cutting back on the number of foreign workers and getting their own people trained up for those jobs that had previously been farmed out. Posted by: Purp at September 08, 2013 08:41 PM (9MLX+) Yeah they are real go getters. If I want a ditch dug the first person I usually look for is a Saudi?

Posted by: The Ball at September 08, 2013 04:43 PM (jE38p)

92 33 I'd rate their air force decent because of top notch equipment, top training, but so-so in fightin spirit. Their ground forces? Less than average: top equipment n training but a warrior ethos that's...that's questionable. Just my 2 cents

Posted by: fastfreefall at September 08, 2013 04:43 PM (Tz35j)

93 Is he crying?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 04:43 PM (0axsw)

94 Shit SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 04:43 PM (jE38p)

95 Maryland gov announced $1.5B in transportation funds for Baltimore area. Pretty much all of it is mass transit. Cause roads are icky.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 04:43 PM (ZPrif)

96 Starting to get some ideas about a community that Obama could go organize.

Posted by: Splunge at September 08, 2013 04:43 PM (bKA83)

97 I just don't like siding with Al Quada and radical muzzies

Dood, don't be a racist.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 04:43 PM (9MLX+)

98 >someone explain the end game here?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 08:40 PM (nqBYe)

There is no end game. The Obama administration's national security team doesn't know what they're doing.

Your country's security is in the hands of Samantha Power, Susan Rice, and Valerie Jarrett

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:44 PM (8sCoq)

99 91 The Ball,

Saudi Arabia ululating the jobs Juan Pablo Javier Vasquez won't do

Posted by: Juan McCain Moderate Major Asshole at September 08, 2013 04:44 PM (9jfyN)

100 willow, alls I know is at the end of the day all the wrong people will emerge from it a little bit richer and with a little bit more power the casualties? just fodder

Posted by: soothie at September 08, 2013 04:44 PM (/sRjO)

101 Well, looks like David Wilson is starting this year off just like the last one. *** He's on my FF team. Dear Heavens.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 04:44 PM (DmNpO)

102 eman, the russians have a lot of stake in the pipelines and the Mediterranean sea etc.

what's happening re suez canal? any movemnt of ships there?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 04:44 PM (nqBYe)

103 92 33
I'd rate their air force decent because of top notch equipment, top training, but so-so in fightin spirit. Their ground forces? Less than average: top equipment n training but a warrior ethos that's...that's questionable. Just my 2 cents

I'm surprised. I had been under the impression that getting a decent air force under a tribal culture was a near-impossibility, because you'd always get somebody's connected cousin instead of candidates screened for potential and good qualities.

Posted by: Splunge at September 08, 2013 04:45 PM (bKA83)

104 The Syrian rebels did the attack that Obama is using to justify war. If not, convince me, I'm listening.

Posted by: eman at September 08, 2013 04:45 PM (AO9UG)

105 I was watching Bill O'Reilly one night and he said that people who oppose attacking Assad for using a certain weapon we don't like are no different from people who opposed attacking Hitler after he took over France and Poland. And that we have to trust the administration on the evidence. Is he REALLY that stupid? I mean, don't get me wrong, he was never remotely an intellectual in my book but I just was blown away by the brain deadness on display.

Posted by: KJC at September 08, 2013 04:45 PM (LmD/o)

106 Yeah they are real go getters.

The king is at least trying. I'm not gonna slam him for that. Change in the kingdom has to come slowly.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 04:45 PM (9MLX+)

107 >Yeah they are real go getters. If I want a ditch dug the first person I usually look for is a Saudi?

Posted by: The Ball at September 08, 2013 08:43 PM (jE38p)

yeah- stopping to pray 5 times a day doesn't get that ditch dug any sooner

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:45 PM (8sCoq)

108 So far I like what I see from the Giants and the Cowboys

Posted by: RG3 at September 08, 2013 04:45 PM (jE38p)

109 An Israeli general who had a sterling reputation for being undefeated in battle was asked what his secret was - What was the key to never losing even a single battle? Fight Arabs, he said.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 04:45 PM (ZPrif)

110 >And that we have to trust the administration on the evidence.

I wouldn't trust the administration to hold my drink while I took a piss

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:46 PM (8sCoq)

111 that son of a gun can kick a football

Posted by: Beto at September 08, 2013 04:46 PM (MhA4j)

112 Assad is kicking for NY?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 08, 2013 04:47 PM (7zANx)

113 Is he REALLY that stupid? I mean, don't get me wrong, he was never remotely an intellectual in my book but I just was blown away by the brain deadness on display. Posted by: KJC Following instructions, and selling that Factor Gear. For the folks.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at September 08, 2013 04:48 PM (v6hyJ)

114 How did Dallas not get any points?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 04:48 PM (0axsw)

115 The king is at least trying. I'm not gonna slam him for that. Change in the kingdom has to come slowly. Posted by: Purp at September 08, 2013 08:45 PM (9MLX+) Yeah, like he is trying to curb his funding of Wannabe islamic crap all over the world?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 04:48 PM (jE38p)

116 110 Jones in CO,

Why would that be?

Posted by: Jim Messina's Smile at September 08, 2013 04:48 PM (9jfyN)

117 Apparently we have to attack because a gas attack that suffocates a child is inhuman and terrible. Shrapnel from a grenade or rocket that tears a hole in the chest wall of a child who then suffocates ... apparently not so bad.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 04:48 PM (ZPrif)

118 112 No, he's kicking for Moscow

Posted by: Beto at September 08, 2013 04:48 PM (MhA4j)

119 A guest on Larry Kudlow radio show last night said a US military strike in Syria was "a no-brainer." I laughed because he put it perfectly and didnt even realize it. A No Brainer indeed.

Posted by: soothie at September 08, 2013 04:48 PM (/sRjO)

120 Obama's evidence is thin and of questionable origin. If the shit was rock solid, it would have been presented at the UNSC without hesitation.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 04:48 PM (9MLX+)

121 Is he REALLY that stupid? I mean, don't get me wrong, he was never remotely an intellectual in my book but I just was blown away by the brain deadness on display. Posted by: KJC at September 08, 2013 08:45 PM (LmD/o) He might be that stupid, but he definitely is that lazy and arrogant.

Posted by: eman at September 08, 2013 04:49 PM (AO9UG)

122 115 NeverGiveUp,

Hey now...the ship steers REALLLLLLLLLY slow....

Jihad dead ahead!

Posted by: SS Titanic's Turn Radius at September 08, 2013 04:49 PM (9jfyN)

123 Yay! David Wilson has moved from -2 pts to -1.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 04:49 PM (DmNpO)

124 How would I do it?
Thanks for asking.
Insert a covert element with sniper capability and secure comms. They get to within a mile of the chem perps and fire. Preferably, you take out the chem perps and all identifiable related targets at the same time, including their children. Remember: these are chem perps.
The snipers miss, they call in the loitering support. Bring down those square miles. Reduce them to dust. Repeat ad lib. Make "firestorm" seem like an admonition from the international "authorities".
Something goes wrong in Syria? Oh oh. So sad. Reduce EVERY twelver target that has ever blipped to a glowing minor chunk in the Earth's gamma ray signature. Repeat for good measure. Make those bitches happy before they go to Hell.

Posted by: Cretin, eyes on the prize, forever eschewing dining off the meat of dead Commies at September 08, 2013 04:49 PM (tfSla)

125 Eli!

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 04:49 PM (0axsw)

126 Eli throws another pick

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:50 PM (8sCoq)

127 Ok. So is Dallas really stepping up or is Eli really stepping in it?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 04:50 PM (DmNpO)

128 Hey, Jerry, open the roof on the stadium, this is getting good.

Posted by: God at September 08, 2013 04:50 PM (4iRJI)

129 Apparently we have to attack because a gas attack that suffocates a child is inhuman and terrible. Shrapnel from a grenade or rocket that tears a hole in the chest wall of a child who then suffocates ... apparently not so bad. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 08:48 PM (ZPrif) Hey I am all for wiping any nation off the face of the earth to uses WMDs unprovoked or going in an taking or destroying all the other WMDs they have and breaking other things in that country while we do it. But that is NOT was obama is proposing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 04:50 PM (jE38p)

130 Both of these teams suck.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 04:50 PM (0axsw)

131 Muslims, thanks to Muhammed, look down on farming. Fellahs are seen as less than the glorious mujihideen. Another stupid thing to add to the list.

Posted by: Beagle at September 08, 2013 04:50 PM (sOtz/)

132 127 Jerry Jones has the deepest pockets and longest reach in the NFL

Posted by: Beto at September 08, 2013 04:51 PM (MhA4j)

133 Yeah, like he is trying to curb his funding of Wannabe islamic crap all over the world?

Being the keepers of the Islamic grail, that's a social necessity.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 04:51 PM (9MLX+)

134 This whole charade is Saudis vs Putin. You'd think Jugears would be a bit confused, but of course it was the house of saud that punched his dance card. It might be nice to see that LAT secret video about now....

Posted by: ontherocks at September 08, 2013 04:51 PM (uIShF)

135 I assume much of the evidence we have is intel and comms intercepts we got from the Israelis. Reality is most countries in the UN are so reflexively anti-Israel, they wouldn't trust Israel to tell them the weather. If Obama went to UNSC and said, here's a transcript Israel gave us ... that wouldn't convince many.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 04:51 PM (ZPrif)

136 yeah- syrians dead from gas are way deader than syrians killed by bullets bombs and getting their heads chopped off

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:51 PM (8sCoq)

137 Anyone watching the trailer for that movie about the taking of the Maersk, 'Captain Phillips'? Wasn't it concluded that his actions weren't near as heroic as originally portrayed?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 04:52 PM (DmNpO)

138 Being the keepers of the Islamic grail, that's a social necessity. Posted by: Purp at September 08, 2013 08:51 PM (9MLX+) Yup, and that's the problem.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 04:52 PM (jE38p)

139 A guest on Larry Kudlow radio show last night said a US military strike in Syria was "a no-brainer." I laughed because he put it perfectly and didnt even realize it. A No Brainer indeed. Posted by: soothie Larry Kudlow is now what I would call a "clown-Con". He supports Amnesty and naturalization of the millions of illegals in the country, because it would be an economic stimulus. Right. And because Reagan did it. And if Reagan was alive today to speak about that, he would probably say it was a mistake and he was hoodwinked by Teddy Kennedy. So if he comes out in favor of a strike, it's "Clown-Con" time.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at September 08, 2013 04:52 PM (v6hyJ)

140 So far I like what I see from the Giants and the Cowboys

Posted by: RG3 at September 08, 2013 08:45 PM (jE38p)

+++++++++++++++

Word

Posted by: Kirk Cousins at September 08, 2013 04:53 PM (jucos)

141 so apparently TFG's over/under on syrians getting killed in civil war before he pretends to give a shit is 100,100

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:53 PM (8sCoq)

142 If Obama went to UNSC and said, here's a transcript Israel gave us ... that wouldn't convince many. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 08:51 PM (ZPrif) A) fuck the UNSC B) I am pretty sure Assad's forces, if not Assad himself, ordered the gas Attack BUT So what? What's the plan? What's the desired outcome? Who are we supporting?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 04:54 PM (jE38p)

143 The House of Saud vs. Russia? Where's the popcorn?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 04:54 PM (0axsw)

144 Did anyone else read "Scandis sign up for Syria strike plan?".

OK,
Maybe that was just me.

Posted by: I'm So Confused at September 08, 2013 04:55 PM (g1NvC)

145 >Wasn't it concluded that his actions weren't near as heroic as originally portrayed?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 08:52 PM (DmNpO)

r u kidding? this is Tom Hanks here- and don't forget-- Obama's Navy SEALs ending up whacking those pirates, so the flick is a liberal win/win

Tom Hanks holds out long enough foe Obama's military to bring the coop de grass

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:55 PM (8sCoq)

146 Anyone betting that *something* will happen on 9/11 that will demand our immediate action against Syria?

Posted by: shibumi at September 08, 2013 04:55 PM (25HWz)

147 The House of Saud vs. Russia? Where's the popcorn? Posted by: Boss Moss We saw that movie in the 1980's, in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at September 08, 2013 04:56 PM (v6hyJ)

148 142 What's the plan?

A slap on the wrist for Assad.

What's the desired outcome?

Obama gets to say he did something about his Red Line.

Who are we supporting?

Obama. And his ego.

Posted by: Splunge at September 08, 2013 04:56 PM (bKA83)

149 Is this something? A pipeline from Qatar through Syria? http://tinyurl.com/p5jrkl3

Posted by: Regular Guy at September 08, 2013 04:56 PM (N3Al8)

150 >The House of Saud vs. Russia? Where's the popcorn?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 08:54 PM (0axsw)

I got a sawbuck on Vlad

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:56 PM (8sCoq)

151 No, he's kicking for Moscow
I thought Obama was kicking for Moscow?
Or was that 'catching'? Hmm.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 08, 2013 04:56 PM (7zANx)

152 I don't care what you guys say. He's still clean and articulate.

Posted by: Uncle Joe at September 08, 2013 04:56 PM (KArqF)

153 I did not start Wilson, but James Jones of the Packers laid a goose egg and it is not assured Victor Cruz will not do that same (even if Eli's fault, not his).

Posted by: logprof at September 08, 2013 04:57 PM (fOFYL)

154 147 Reader CJ Burch,

Yeah and we sided against the EUropean nation then too...

only price we paid was WTC 1,2 other buildings and a side of the Pentagon...so there's all that

Posted by: sven10077 at September 08, 2013 04:58 PM (9jfyN)

155 r u kidding? this is Tom Hanks here- and don't forget-- Obama's Navy SEALs ending up whacking those pirates, so the flick is a liberal win/win Tom Hanks holds out long enough foe Obama's military to bring the coop de grass *** How silly of me. I completely forgot about Obama sneaking out of the WH to personally oversee the shooting of those pirates.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 04:58 PM (DmNpO)

156 >>This whole charade is Saudis vs Putin. Actually, its us vs Putin. Always has been. Obama is just starting to figure this out.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 08, 2013 04:58 PM (g1DWB)

157 and the nice liberal bigot Robert Deniro says to ease up on Obama...he's doing the best he can.

Posted by: soothie at September 08, 2013 04:58 PM (/sRjO)

158 Let's see for the last 5 years + obama has Trashed America Trashed American arrogance in Foreign Policy Called America the worlds Bully and the cause of all the Worlds problems Praised the UN Praised following and not leading Apologized for America keeping the World safe Apologized for every American Fart Apologized for saving the world from the Commies Apologized for what white people did and do And now that and more is coming back to bite him in the ass. Well cry me a river, life is a bitch sometimes and karma hurts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 04:58 PM (jE38p)

159 Dueling incompetence.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 04:59 PM (ZPrif)

160 Nowhere to hide in a big flat desert or dessert. Commo works perfectly. I think Vlad and the skins would be a heavy favorite.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 04:59 PM (0axsw)

161 >So what? What's the plan? What's the desired outcome? Who are we supporting?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 08:54 PM (jE38p)

1) be seen as Doing Something

2) preserve POTUS' dignity

3) the same people who dreamed up 9/11

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 04:59 PM (8sCoq)

162 157
and the nice liberal bigot Robert Deniro says to ease up on Obama...he's doing the best he can.

Sadly, that may be exactly true.

Posted by: Splunge at September 08, 2013 04:59 PM (bKA83)

163 Yup, and that's the problem.

Any Saudi king always has a number of things that are essentially forced actions due to social inertia.

Public presentation is a large component of the multi-tiered manner the ME operates in. You publicly pander to the street to keep away from the lamp posts, then do what you must do behind the scenes to make shit actually work (like clandestine intel cooperation with Israel)

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 04:59 PM (9MLX+)

164 May I duct tape far fuck mike Mc Cathy to the 1st missile shot across the bow? Can I? Can I? Pretty please

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at September 08, 2013 04:59 PM (HVff2)

165 wish JackStraw was here.

what of this?

Syria chemical weapons attack not ordered by Assad, says German press

Bild am Sonntag cites high-level German surveillance source suggesting Syrian president was not personally behind attacks simon tisdall @the guardian.com sunday september 2013

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:00 PM (nqBYe)

166 Actually the Saudis keep the space rock in the silver vagina in the black box. The Priory of Sion, Freemasonsand Skull and Bones keep the Grail.

Posted by: Beagle at September 08, 2013 05:00 PM (sOtz/)

167 grrr

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:00 PM (nqBYe)

168 Cowboys and Giants trying to out-suck each other.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 05:00 PM (ZPrif)

169 and the nice liberal bigot Robert Deniro says to ease up on Obama...he's doing the best he can. *** It's a pity, but it's true. It IS the best he can do.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 05:00 PM (DmNpO)

170 1) be seen as Doing Something2) preserve POTUS' dignity3) the same people who dreamed up 9/11 Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 08:59 PM (8sCoq) I see a Cabinet position in your future.

Posted by: BignJames at September 08, 2013 05:01 PM (j7iSn)

171 There'll be plenty of time for "grrrr"ing in the barrel, Willow.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 08, 2013 05:02 PM (7zANx)

172 Any Saudi king always has a number of things that are essentially forced actions due to social inertia. Public presentation is a large component of the multi-tiered manner the ME operates in. You publicly pander to the street to keep away from the lamp posts, then do what you must do behind the scenes to make shit actually work (like clandestine intel cooperation with Israel) Posted by: Purp at September 08, 2013 08:59 PM (9MLX+) All well and good, but the Saudi's have been, are, and will continue to fund the madrases that teach the hatred of the West, of the Jews, of the United States. screw em

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 05:02 PM (jE38p)

173 damn it andy!

you could have pretended to Not see that.

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:02 PM (nqBYe)

174 Football is all fixed. When you all come to accept that you will be at peace with Sundays. Thursdays and Mondays too.

Posted by: Mr. Natiral at September 08, 2013 05:02 PM (KArqF)

175 Is this something? A pipeline from Qatar through Syria?

Very big deal...it impacts Iran's ability to use the straight as an extortion lever

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 05:03 PM (9MLX+)

176 see look they're all busy with their football talk.

slides away from edge.

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:03 PM (nqBYe)

177 Well, I'm screwed for FF this week. Between Wilson stinking it up for my team and AJ Green delivering big for my opponent, all hope is lost.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 05:03 PM (DmNpO)

178 How important is the Mecca space rock to the religion?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 05:04 PM (ZPrif)

179 Cowboys and Giants trying to out-suck each other. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 09:00 Sounds like Barney Franks house

Posted by: Beto at September 08, 2013 05:05 PM (MhA4j)

180 Mecca should have been eliminated on 9/12.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 05:05 PM (0axsw)

181 The Saudis back the Sunni(/Wahhabi/Salafi: Alkoran, Alsunnas, Alcaliphate! Ululate, Decapitate, Iterate!) insurgency and insurgents (including Alqada) from Morocco to Constantinople (now Istanbul because Peace), through Reconquered Iberia, Italy, and the Balkans into France and Austria, and now into Germany and the British Isles, and beyond. Alprogress! Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 08, 2013 05:05 PM (GJ8w3)

182 Scientology should get themselves a space rock. Seems to work.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 05:05 PM (ZPrif)

183 I think I could go for the Michael Corleone approach, when they came after him after the Don died. Incinerate Damascus and the Assad Family. Incinerate Riyadh and Mecca. Incinerate Teheran, Qom and use heavy penetrators on the buried Iran nuke facilities. And incinerate Islamabad.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at September 08, 2013 05:05 PM (v6hyJ)

184 so what will we/the world have to give up for Putin to let Obama save face?

is this where we are at?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:06 PM (nqBYe)

185 So far there are more turnovers than either team has points.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 05:06 PM (ZPrif)

186 Commandante 0 has shot hisself in the dick with his dithering and waffling. It is the end of whatever little power he had and the beginning of the lameness that he so richly deserves, in spades. /I denounce myself Raycist! That is all.

Posted by: Gmac - Pondering the coming implosion at September 08, 2013 05:06 PM (IanLz)

187

Very big deal...it impacts Iran's ability to use the straight as an extortion lever

Does Qatar have that kind of influence in the region as to stir the pot and crash Assad?

Posted by: Regular Guy at September 08, 2013 05:07 PM (N3Al8)

188 Medina too, Boss Moss, and all the "holy cities" except Jerusalem.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 08, 2013 05:07 PM (7zANx)

189 another thing i believe i've mentioned before.

Obama stated the 'red line' how long ago?

who would have remembered if HE didn't want that line brought back up?
the media certainly wouldn't have brought it up.

so why did Obama want this ?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:07 PM (nqBYe)

190 Awww. Poor Bobby Jr. http://nypost.com/2013/09/08/rfk-jr-s-sex-diary-of-adultery/

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 05:07 PM (DmNpO)

191 How important is the Mecca space rock to the religion?

Not much actually. The act of making the pilgrimage is itself is more important than the rock. If the Kaaba vanished tomorrow, people would still come

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 05:07 PM (9MLX+)

192 The NFL is like the post office now. They don't really care bout excellence any more.
It's about the plaintiff bar, unions, TV (FUCK TV!), and putting rich 'backs in the U.S. Senate in affirmative action/community-organized states.

Posted by: Cretin, eyes on the prize, forever eschewing dining off the meat of dead Commies at September 08, 2013 05:08 PM (tfSla)

193 http://tinyurl.com/5x7

Not your daddy's SWAT team...

SWAT kills 107 year old in SWAT raid...

Monroe Isadore come on DOWN....

you may be the one bastard who has a point on 40 acres and a mule...

Posted by: sven10077 at September 08, 2013 05:08 PM (9jfyN)

194 Cowboys and Giants trying to out-suck each other. ----- ------ This footbaw intwigues me.

Posted by: Barney Frank at September 08, 2013 05:08 PM (sOtz/)

195 Wait, I thought the Kaaba was the building, not the space rock.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 05:10 PM (ZPrif)

196 ofgs i meant the strait of hormuz when asking about suez/

my brain is not very helpful at times. (shut up ) yeah i know

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:10 PM (nqBYe)

197 Leftists Heading To Syria To Act As Â“Human ShieldsÂ” For Assad RegimeÂ… The useful idiot brigade. Weasel Zippers: Well OK, that MIGHT actually convince to back some missile strikes. Allah Snackbar!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 05:10 PM (jE38p)

198 @178 Mecca and Medina are more important I think. The Kabaa is a central point of worship. Idolatry really.

Posted by: Barney Frank at September 08, 2013 05:11 PM (sOtz/)

199 189 willow- great questions. I guess that o thought nobody would pay any attention to the previous 11 cw uses.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2013 05:11 PM (MH+80)

200 Not your daddy's SWAT team... SWAT kills 107 year old in SWAT raid... **** I don't think anyone should get a pass for firing on the police, whether 18 years old or 107. Yet.... he was alone at the time. The only person he could have hurt was himself. Why the need to rush him?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 05:12 PM (DmNpO)

201 Doh. Sock fail. Yeah, they could do without the Kabaa.

Posted by: Beagle at September 08, 2013 05:12 PM (sOtz/)

202 yeah the kaaaba is the fancy shed that the space rock is nailed to the side of

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 05:12 PM (8sCoq)

203 Kabba Kabboom?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 05:13 PM (0axsw)

204 Ben Had, i don't know why i have this feeling but i feel We are being punk'd.

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:13 PM (nqBYe)

205 My wife just pointed out that Obama's TV Ratings have been falling every speech he makes so he had to create a war so people would tune in to listen to him again.

Posted by: Beto at September 08, 2013 05:13 PM (MhA4j)

206 200 Nidermeyer's Dead Horse,

Well I am not being too hard on the SWAT really...guy went oiut like hne wanted I guess...

will Holder deploy the Hate Crime Gestapo?

Posted by: sven10077 at September 08, 2013 05:13 PM (9jfyN)

207 Very big deal...it impacts Iran's ability to use the straight as an extortion lever Sorry, I've been seeing this all day. It's STRAIT! Bombing Syria promotes better spelling.

Posted by: t-bird at September 08, 2013 05:13 PM (FcR7P)

208 Kabba Kabboom? Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 09:13 PM (0axsw) OK pretty funny there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 05:14 PM (jE38p)

209 kaaba ba booey

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 05:14 PM (8sCoq)

210 kaaba kablooey?

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 05:14 PM (8sCoq)

211 Why the need to rush him? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 If they had just waited til after 9pm he would have fallen asleep.

Posted by: Beto at September 08, 2013 05:14 PM (MhA4j)

212 If you like your big black space rock, you can keep your big black space rock. Maybe.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 08, 2013 05:14 PM (ZshNr)

213 will Holder deploy the Hate Crime Gestapo? *** I dunno. Was he black?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 05:15 PM (DmNpO)

214 Maybe we can bomb syria, impoverish them more, make them take American food stamps. Now according to the dems that will really make our economy soar!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 05:15 PM (jE38p)

215 If they had just waited til after 9pm he would have fallen asleep. *** No kidding!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 05:15 PM (DmNpO)

216 The Sauds, are just the moneymen, the real problem are the tribesmen that constitute the Ikwan, this is why it's turtles all the way down, the ones who attacked us in Iraq, are from the Ghamid, like several of the 9/11 hijackers,
the Uteibi, like the leader of the Grand Mosque Siege, and the Quahtan,

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at September 08, 2013 05:15 PM (Jsiw/)

217 so Obama's big speech will come on 9/10?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:15 PM (nqBYe)

218 Does Qatar have that kind of influence in the region as to stir the pot and crash Assad?

I think the emirates punch above their weight class in influence. A pipeline from Qatar just happens, rather conveniently, to pass suprisingly close to Bahrain, Dammam, and RasTanura. Anything that gives the Saudi's a backdoor export method that avoided passing through the straight diminishes Iran's influence dramatically.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 05:16 PM (9MLX+)

219 If they had just waited til after 9pm he would have fallen asleep. *** Or wait until he got hungry and then spiked his butterscotch pudding.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 05:16 PM (DmNpO)

220 Yes, kaaba building contains the Black Stone. Not a very creative name Black Stone.

Posted by: Beagle at September 08, 2013 05:16 PM (sOtz/)

221 Thinking about attacking a black rock is obviously raciss.

Posted by: MFM at September 08, 2013 05:17 PM (4iRJI)

222 Serena Williams won again. A testament to the power of PEDs, especially HGH, I suspect. Look at pictures of Serena when she was young. She and Venus actually look quite similar. Now Serena looks like a Hulk version of Venus.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 05:17 PM (ZPrif)

223 20 minutes into the game and Wilson is still at -1 pts.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 05:17 PM (DmNpO)

224 213 NDH,

Indeed...

well *maybe* I did a Bing image and the hits were of the right age period to be 1906....

who knows?

Fatass white guy in his 30s or the guy who looked to be extant in 1927?

Posted by: sven10077 at September 08, 2013 05:17 PM (9jfyN)

225 My wife just pointed out that Obama's TV Ratings have been falling every speech he makes so he had to create a war so people would tune in to listen to him again. Posted by: Beto Sponsored by GE. We bring good things to light.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at September 08, 2013 05:17 PM (v6hyJ)

226 TFG exhausts me.
everyday.

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:17 PM (nqBYe)

227 Now Serena looks like a Hulk version of Venus. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 09:17 PM (ZPrif) One of her thighs and half her ass could feed the poor children of Syria for 6 months

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 05:18 PM (jE38p)

228 Kaabaoom is a comment I made a lot in 2002.

Posted by: Beagle at September 08, 2013 05:18 PM (sOtz/)

229 supposedly there's another magic rock somewhere that they piss themselves over- the rock where Mo Hammit jumped into outer space or something

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 05:18 PM (8sCoq)

230 204 willow- I not sure we are being punked as much as set up. Russia and China have alot to gain by the US losing stature. o may have read Mao but he has never read Sun Tzu.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2013 05:19 PM (MH+80)

231 226 TFG exhausts me. everyday. Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 09:17 PM (nqBYe) Me too. Listening to him takes effort.

Posted by: EC at September 08, 2013 05:19 PM (doBIb)

232 Kaaba ba ba bomb bomb Iran.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 08, 2013 05:19 PM (jucos)

233 Black Rockstone, Jack of all Trades, Except For Ham-Related Trades!

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 08, 2013 05:19 PM (ZshNr)

234 Me too. Listening to him takes effort. Posted by: EC An effort not to throw something through the TV screen.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at September 08, 2013 05:20 PM (v6hyJ)

235 227 NeverGiveUp,

Lad10077 did a report on Predator 1 and 2....

look the later sequels needed the roid raged alien huntahs...

BIGGER, FASTER, BOOMIER!

Posted by: Herr Guvanator and Danny Glouver at September 08, 2013 05:20 PM (9jfyN)

236 supposedly there's another magic rock somewhere that they piss themselves over- the rock where Mo Hammit jumped into outer space or something Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 09:18 PM (8sCoq) Yeah, but the Joooos own that rock although obama does not recognize jooowish ownership of that rock

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 08, 2013 05:20 PM (jE38p)

237 Serena is one major away form tying Navratilova for 4th all time. Martina's PED of choice was steroids. So it's HGH vs Steroids.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 05:20 PM (ZPrif)

238 Me too. Listening to him takes effort. *** For a while, right after he took to the national stage, I wondered if it was me: Why can't I understand him? When you look around and everyone is nodding and smiling and clapping, you wonder if it's YOU who just doesn't get it. I no longer think that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 05:21 PM (DmNpO)

239 Granted, I'm distracted by the Great Horned Owl calling in the middle distance (still within rifle range, if you're me), but doesn't the shared legacy (ha-kitab) mean we're talking about where G*d sent the horned ram?
We'd be without Abraham (the "father of many") if that failed.
Thise places existed. The accounts differ only slightly. You could say that it's a matter of the different intonations given those metaphors.
I draw the line when they want to kill me.
Matter of fact, I already have the holds on my go-to rifle.

Posted by: Cretin, eyes on the prize, forever eschewing dining off the meat of dead Commies at September 08, 2013 05:21 PM (tfSla)

240 I not sure we are being punked as much as set up. Russia and China have alot to gain by the US losing stature. o may have read Mao but he has never read Sun Tzu.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2013 09:19 PM (MH+80)

Ben, Set Up is a much better explanation. as i said my brain is skittering around as it often does when stressed.

---

EC yes.

so what do you guys think we will have to let go of, or give away to not have this blow up the world?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:21 PM (nqBYe)

241 Serena is one major away form tying Navratilova for 4th all time. Martina's PED of choice was steroids. So it's HGH vs Steroids. Posted by: Flatbush Joe Maybe it's Brawndo?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at September 08, 2013 05:21 PM (v6hyJ)

242 Hawaii?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 05:22 PM (ZPrif)

243 237 Flatbush Joe,

You forgot the part where I rip the spines out of my prey and polish it!

http://youtu.be/ygJSyQ4XscA

Posted by: Serena "Want Some Candy?" Williams at September 08, 2013 05:22 PM (9jfyN)

244 PEDs have an ever greater impact on women's sports than men's. A little TRT can go a long, long way in a female athlete.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 05:23 PM (ZPrif)

245 241 Reader CJ Burch,

Heh...it has what prey craves...

Posted by: Serena at September 08, 2013 05:23 PM (9jfyN)

246 I no longer think that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 08, 2013 09:21 PM (DmNpO)

neidermeyer, i understood him. what i couldn't understand is why America wanted What he was selling.

then i wondered if kool-aide (something int he water) was a reality

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:23 PM (nqBYe)

247 Martina's backstroke won her fewer matches than her penis.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 08, 2013 05:23 PM (ZshNr)

248 I thought Serena used gamma rays to enhance her performance

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 05:23 PM (8sCoq)

249 Shit.... Serena looks like Earl Campbell.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 08, 2013 05:23 PM (jucos)

250 240 willow- Putin wants Georgia back.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2013 05:24 PM (MH+80)

251

I think the emirates punch above their weight class in influence. A pipeline from Qatar just happens, rather conveniently, to pass suprisingly close to Bahrain, Dammam, and RasTanura. Anything that gives the Saudi's a backdoor export method that avoided passing through the straight diminishes Iran's influence dramatically.

Will natural gas production in Qatar rise as a result of a pipeline? If so would this diminish Russia's production needs of natural gas for market?

Posted by: Regular Guy at September 08, 2013 05:24 PM (N3Al8)

252 Martin and Serena were both men.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 05:25 PM (0axsw)

253 248Jones in CO,

WRONG! I eat Beta males.....

249 Truck Monkey,

He was simply the first wave...

Posted by: Serena at September 08, 2013 05:25 PM (9jfyN)

254 Ben Had, well i thought that was a done deal?
didn't Obama immediately back out of the shield for Georgia that they had been promised
ceding Georgia right after He was elected?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:25 PM (nqBYe)

255 Serena Williams...... I'd hit it.

Posted by: Sexy Filner at September 08, 2013 05:25 PM (Aif/5)

256 247 LincolnTF,

look the penis helps with balance....

Posted by: Serena at September 08, 2013 05:26 PM (9jfyN)

257 HGH = Horse Giddyup Hormones???

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 08, 2013 05:26 PM (7zANx)

258 Serena's achievements are super impressive. Also the fact she's still dominant at 31. Crazy old for a female tennis player. Funny that the press never even asks her about PEDs. And we are told we have to find her hulking, mannish build sexy and attractive. I find Venus attractive. Serena ... not so much. She has a pretty smile ... on top of her no longer completely human physique.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 05:26 PM (ZPrif)

259 255 Sexy Filner,

so would I...with a car or forklift

Posted by: Danny Glouver in Predator 2 at September 08, 2013 05:27 PM (9jfyN)

260

was I the only one who was secretly happy just a little when someone ran on the court and stabbed that chick tennis player? She's the one who used to shriek when in a volley. I forget her name?

Posted by: he who doesn't like weird noises while playing tennis at September 08, 2013 05:28 PM (N3Al8)

261 And we are told we have to find her hulking, mannish build sexy and attractive.
Mind if Serena and I dance wif your dates?

Posted by: moochelle o. at September 08, 2013 05:28 PM (7zANx)

262 It's just odd. Pretty much every other athlete that has shattered records in the past 20 years has been shown to be on PEDs. Yet Serena never, ever even gets asked. She's never even forced to deny the obvious.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 05:29 PM (ZPrif)

263 Funny that the press never even asks her about PEDs. ------- Gah! Racist much?

Posted by: MFM at September 08, 2013 05:29 PM (Aif/5)

264 I like Sharapova.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 05:29 PM (0axsw)

265 Look hot sexy Russian tennis players don't rip off droids arms...

Posted by: Michelle-A-waroo at September 08, 2013 05:29 PM (9jfyN)

266 Monica Seles. That was a fucked up sports moment if I ever saw one. Can't find much humor in it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 08, 2013 05:30 PM (ZshNr)

267 Monica Seles. And the Germans locked up her dad longer for tax evasion than the crazy stabber was locked up for attempted murder.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 08, 2013 05:30 PM (7zANx)

268 Posted by: he who doesn't like weird noises while playing tennis ***** What if they farted really loud every volley? Would they stop the match because people were laughing too loud?

Posted by: Beto at September 08, 2013 05:30 PM (MhA4j)

269 Monica Seles got stabbed. Which was horrible and not cool at all, even a little, even though, yeah, she shrieked in an insanely annoying way. A bunch of them do. It's stupid and not at all necessary.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 08, 2013 05:31 PM (ZPrif)

270 Monica Seles was stabbed. I didn't like watching her play because she screamed when she hit the ball. I know her opponents used to complain about it as well.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 08, 2013 05:31 PM (jucos)

271 Obama throws like a real girl....not a PED one

Posted by: Beto at September 08, 2013 05:31 PM (MhA4j)

272 They keep saying that this isn't another Iraq or Afghanistan... and that is exactly the problem. If this was truly an important issue meriting war ground troops would be used without hesitation.

Posted by: KJC at September 08, 2013 05:31 PM (LmD/o)

273 willow -yes, but Putin doesn't want to leave Georgia in satellite status. I see Putin wanting to rebuild the Soviet empire of old. He would also like to give us even more payback for Afghanistan.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2013 05:31 PM (MH+80)

274 Oh is that weird noise? whoopsie

Posted by: he who doesn't like weird noises while playing tennis at September 08, 2013 05:32 PM (N3Al8)

275 The Russians never carry bowcasters.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 05:32 PM (0axsw)

276 Somewhere, troll Dum-Dum is smiling! See the sock link.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 08, 2013 05:32 PM (7zANx)

277 Will natural gas production in Qatar rise as a result of a pipeline? If so would this diminish Russia's production needs of natural gas for market?

It gives the ME nations a way to compete with Gazprom for the European market.

I don't know how where Qatar is on actuals vs capacity at this point.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 05:33 PM (9MLX+)

278 Seles would be considered a mute compared to today's players.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 08, 2013 05:33 PM (ZshNr)

279 276 andycanuck,

Pity he never had DC hero's ratings.....

Posted by: Derp-Derp at September 08, 2013 05:33 PM (9jfyN)

280

Mia Copa Mia Copa Mia Copa

Posted by: he who doesn't like weird noises while playing tennis at September 08, 2013 05:34 PM (N3Al8)

281 If we sent in The Archers with Longbows nobody would be bitching about it.

Posted by: Beto at September 08, 2013 05:34 PM (MhA4j)

282 Jimmeh Carter's enduring legacy (beyond the emasculation of a state's authority to set speed limits) is the idea that Iranians want the "shadow-of-g*d" authority of the ayatollahs (look it up).
Another sure sign of where L'il Barry "bacha bazi" Obama's true allegiance lies is how he comes down on those temporary marriage (as in Chicago) mullahs.
You wanna have sex with kids? Hey, so do the Iranian mullahs.

Posted by: Cretin, eyes on the prize, forever eschewing dining off the meat of dead Commies at September 08, 2013 05:34 PM (tfSla)

283 >>> yeah- stopping to pray 5 times a day doesn't get that ditch dug any sooner If it is Allan's will, the ditch wil be dug quickly.

Posted by: al-fluffy at September 08, 2013 05:35 PM (z9HTb)

284 What's weird is A-stan is more important now, than when we invaded given all the strategic mineral finds that happened subsequently...which of course is why we're abandoning it and letting the Chinese and Russians pick up all those contracts.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 05:36 PM (9MLX+)

285 BenHad, uh hmm. I agree Putin would like to rebuild the Soviet Union. and Be the Super Power of the World.

and He just might be.

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:37 PM (nqBYe)

286 I liked Elena Dementieva, who retired a little while back- she was such a head case... it was fun to watch. She would start screaming in Russian to no one in particular when things went wrong

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 08, 2013 05:37 PM (8sCoq)

287 >>I don't know how where Qatar is on actuals vs capacity at this point. Qatar has been throttling the flow of natural gas from the South Pars field for years to keep the price higher. South Pars is the world's biggest natural gas reserve by far. Bu it is owned not just by the Qataries but is shared with Iran.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 08, 2013 05:38 PM (g1DWB)

288 And so do older men in Yemen, Cretin [etc.], that ends in the death of an 8-year-old girl. See the sock link.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 08, 2013 05:38 PM (7zANx)

289 Purp, It's almost like everything becomes accidentally purposeful. (Our losses)

or we actually want to cede power. which would actually fit with obama pre president words.

.to be fair.

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:39 PM (nqBYe)

290 Anyone betting that *something* will happen on 9/11 that will demand our immediate action against Syria?

Posted by: shibumi at September 08, 2013 08:55 PM (25HWz)

Not if we have an overnight vigil on Mt Shasta and meditate for peace, and bang on de drum all day.

Posted by: Give Peace a chance. . . and drum circles at September 08, 2013 05:40 PM (p7nDq)

291 Jack good to see you here to chime in on this.

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:40 PM (nqBYe)

292 287 JackStraw,

Quite...if we were a serious nation we would be using our reserves and aiding Canada in fucking Russia, and Arabia...

instead we get "apple slices!"

Posted by: GOP base at September 08, 2013 05:42 PM (9jfyN)

293 By the way, the whole "war of choice" meme was probably the stupidest shit I ever heard of--every war is avoidable if you choose to give up your objectives--but this is the choiciest war yet. Even Kosovo arguably made more sense given that it was happening in a "civilized" continent.

Posted by: KJC at September 08, 2013 05:42 PM (LmD/o)

294 293,

Sense?

Never heard of it

Posted by: Donk Ass Mofo at September 08, 2013 05:43 PM (9jfyN)

295 willow- Putin already has Europe under his thumb because of energy. The US cannot supply energy to any other nation in a cost effective manner. For all of the bluster, Iran is still a Russian client state and we have ceded Egypt to Russia as well. The next question will be what Turkey does.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2013 05:44 PM (MH+80)

296 Thank you willow.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 08, 2013 05:44 PM (g1DWB)

297 295 Ben Had,

There are alternatives...

Posted by: focus on South America and Japan at September 08, 2013 05:45 PM (9jfyN)

298 BenHad, that was a tough post to read. But yes you're right.

Local newspaper Hurriyet also reported on Sunday that Turkish fighter jets conducted a patrol flight over the Syrian border due to Â“increased activityÂ” in theÂ…

albanytribune@
i don't know of the veracity of that particular media

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:47 PM (nqBYe)

299 Our "leader" had talked more about Syria in the last two weeks than he has about Afghanistan in the last four years. Truly inexcusable.

Posted by: KJC at September 08, 2013 05:48 PM (LmD/o)

300 Couldn't they just say that the Mexicans used poison gas and invade?

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 05:48 PM (0axsw)

301

By RT -- (September 8, 2013)

In a move to intensify its defense near the Syrian border, Turkey has deployed additional troops and more weapons to the countryÂ’s southeast. Earlier this week, Turkey sent reinforcement to the south amid WashingtonÂ’s calls for a military strike on Syria.

The Turkish military dispatched additional units to Suruc, located in the southern province of Sanlıurfa, on Sunday, TodayÂ’s Zaman reported. According to the report, semi-trailer trucks loaded with armored vehicles and tanks were sent midday from a command post in the southeastern city of Gaziante

But in his recent statement, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan reiterated that Turkey Â– which has been openly supporting the rebel opposition Â– was ready to take part in any international coalition against Syria.

Â“Whether it would be as an opposing force or supplying forces to provide logistical support, all this would be determined by circumstances,Â” Erdogan said on Sunda

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:51 PM (nqBYe)

302 297 focus- yes and Thank you for that. My only question to that would be, our Latin American is only slightly less screwed than our ME policy. We did manage to extricate ourselves out of the Honduran debacle without starting a war.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2013 05:52 PM (MH+80)

303 The Sauds (OPEC) are for Assads overthrow because he is Putins(Gazprom) boy. As long as Assad is in power, Gazprom has a monopoly on European gas.
Once he is gone, Qatar gets a pipeline to Syria, Turkey,(Jordan gets free gas in the deal), and into Europe to compete with Gazprom.
That's why Bandar was in Russia three weeks ago. He was trying to get Vlads buyoff on the offing of Assad, with the conditions of price-fixing gas in Europe and getting the 'stans back. Vlad told him to 'pound-sand'.

Suddenly, Saudi is willing to pay the freight on USA taking-out Assad.

Let the Saudi princes fight their own fucking war. They have all those nice F-15s, F-16s, M1A1 Abrams we sold them, as well as the Brit attack-jets.

They can't really fly(ask anyone who has had the misfortune to train or fly with them).
Their sole qualification for being a "Fighter Pilot" is being born into the Royal Family.
We've got no dog in this fight. This really is a case of:
"Follow The Money".

Posted by: ChrisP at September 08, 2013 05:53 PM (jdPps)

304 so the question left open i guess.

what solution is there now that Obama has chosen this path ?

what can be expected as the result.
if he backs away what ?
if we tap syria lightly . will that be face saving enough?
or is this going to turn into THEE war?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 05:55 PM (nqBYe)

305 Chris Christie hangin' with Jerry Jones? What's up with that?

Posted by: Mr. Natiral at September 08, 2013 05:56 PM (KArqF)

306 >>We've got no dog in this fight. This really is a case of: "Follow The Money". Sure we do. The middle east doesn't belong to Putin anymore than it does to us. But he clearly thinks he has a dog in this fight. You are only a super power as long as the world thinks you actually have power. This is something our boy king is rudely waking up to.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 08, 2013 05:59 PM (g1DWB)

307 You are only a super power as long as the world thinks you actually have power. This is something our boy king is rudely waking up to.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 08, 2013 09:59 PM (g1DWB)

I'm left wondering if this really doesn't matter to him?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 06:00 PM (nqBYe)

308 304 willow- the next few days will tell. Thank you for the conversation. Must run and finish some chores but I really enjoyed the exchange.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 08, 2013 06:00 PM (MH+80)

309 BenHad, be well.

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 06:01 PM (nqBYe)

310

It gives the ME nations a way to compete with Gazprom for the European market.

I don't know how where Qatar is on actuals vs capacity at this point.

_{I'm just trying to form an understanding of the players here and group them . It seems in this one there is no 'us against them'. What a tangled mess this is. NWO indeed.}

Posted by: Regular Guy at September 08, 2013 06:02 PM (N3Al8)

311 so much for arab spring being about democracy.
or just getting the players into position, maybe?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 06:05 PM (nqBYe)

312 anyway i suspected something funky was up when the red line long spoken of long ago in politics , long forgotten by americans in general had to be forced down all of our throats Now to get Our Help.

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 06:08 PM (nqBYe)

313 i always talk to myself.
i don't have issues at all!

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 06:09 PM (nqBYe)

314 I'm just trying to form an understanding of the players here and group them.

Its not an easy two dimensional ven diagram. Public presentations are often just for show, and behind the scenes dealings rarely revealed. More of a n-dimensional thing where actual alliances can shift on a daily basis.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 08, 2013 06:09 PM (9MLX+)

315 It's just the gerbil wagging the tail.

Posted by: Richard Gere at September 08, 2013 06:09 PM (0axsw)

316

so much for arab spring being about democracy.
or just getting the players into position, maybe?

_{It seems like a bunch of privateers just using politics as a weapon to divide people then use some as tool to get what they want. I guess it has been that way since forever. Silly me I thought the US only had a few bad apples.}

Posted by: Regular Guy at September 08, 2013 06:09 PM (N3Al8)

317 Here's to your thin red line.

Posted by: David Lee Roth at September 08, 2013 06:10 PM (0axsw)

318 Regular guy.
yes i used to have a lot of faith in being the good guys.

it's been a horrible awakening for me.
i keep hoping i am being paranoid and we do have good guys just waiting to grab the moment.
however i am losing faith.

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 06:13 PM (nqBYe)

319 What is more worrisome than the fact that the United States has an inadequate president, is that the public still accords the incumbent a significant degree of support. If the American people, who have responded to intelligent leadership so often within living memory, has become so morally obtuse that it buys into this flimflam, the problem is more profound than I imagined.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 08, 2013 06:15 PM (e8kgV)

320 if we tap syria lightly . will that be face saving enough?
or is this going to turn into THEE war?

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 09:55 PM (nqBYe)

If we attack Syria no matter how lightly, the Russians will have to do something in response. Syria is their ally, so their credibility is on the line in a big way.

Posted by: schizoid at September 08, 2013 06:18 PM (N457C)

321 You've gotta admit, this goes a long way toward explaining why the Kingdom spent so much money getting the JEF elected. They now OWN him...

Posted by: ChrisP at September 08, 2013 06:19 PM (jdPps)

322 He even bows and grovels to them.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 06:20 PM (0axsw)

323 schizoid, well Putin certainly seems serious, he's also expending a lot of cash to bring ships in.
Three Russian naval ships were sailing toward Syria in the eastern Mediterranean on Friday and a fourth was on its way, the Interfax news agency
abc news

Posted by: willow at September 08, 2013 06:21 PM (nqBYe)

324 WH CHIEF OF STAFF: ASSAD APPEARS TO BE LYING ABOUT CHEMICAL WEAPONS USE http://tinyurl.com/nezy55m This guy was all over the Sunday shows. The dems were calling him Susan. HOUSE INTEL CHAIR: 'CONFOUNDING' BENGHAZI FIBBER SUSAN RICE WOULD BRIEF LAWMAKERS ON SYRIA ON ANNIVERSARY OF ATTACKS http://tinyurl.com/ocyxkzd

Posted by: caustic at September 08, 2013 06:22 PM (/b8+5)

325 There's speculation on Hot Air that the Russian ships working with the Syrian air force might be able to shoot down our missiles in flight.

Posted by: schizoid at September 08, 2013 06:27 PM (N457C)

326 LINDSEY GRAHAM POLLING UNDER 50 PERCENT IN PRIMARY, COULD FACE RUNOFF http://tinyurl.com/neer3at LINDSEY GRAHAM IMPLIES FAILURE TO STRIKE SYRIA MAY RESULT IN U.S. GETTING NUKED http://tinyurl.com/l2xmbze The top one is defintely related to the bottom one.

Posted by: caustic at September 08, 2013 06:28 PM (/b8+5)

327 >>You've gotta admit, this goes a long way toward explaining why the Kingdom spent so much money getting the JEF elected. They now OWN him. Any US president would be supporting Team Saud against Team Iran. However, few would be as inept as this clown. Never attribute to malice what can be explained by ineptitude.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 08, 2013 06:31 PM (g1DWB)

328 Japanese professor pushes for Hide and Seek at the Olympics. From the Telegraph.

Posted by: Boss Moss at September 08, 2013 06:36 PM (0axsw)

329

Its not an easy two dimensional ven diagram. Public presentations are often just for show, and behind the scenes dealings rarely revealed. More of a n-dimensional thing where actual alliances can shift on a daily basis.

And yes I'm thinking more and more profit driven and less political. Like you said alliance can shift daily. Those puppet strong men who governed the ME did serve a purpose.

Posted by: Regular Guy at September 08, 2013 06:37 PM (N3Al8)

330

it's been a horrible awakening for me.
i keep hoping i am being paranoid and we do have good guys just waiting to grab the moment.
however i am losing faith

Up on the ONT is a post quoting a retired US General as saying in the recent days he has talked to many military personnel who are either retiring or really confused and disgusted with the whole Syrian boondoggle.. Coup anyone?

Posted by: Regular Guy at September 08, 2013 06:44 PM (N3Al8)

331 Why can't the Saudis fight this if they want it so bad. God, I'm sick of this. Our blood, their $$. What world is this?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 08, 2013 06:51 PM (KL49F)

332 Fifteen of the nineteen hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis; I don't EVER want to be on their "side" in a war.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at September 08, 2013 06:59 PM (KL49F)

333 Never attribute to insight what can be explained by hubris.

Jugears is a confused pawn in all of this, being had by his own ill advised Lines (Red)

ChrisP has it right.
Follow the money (pipeline)

Bandar pissed of Putin with threats about the Olympics and muzzie unrest.

Jugears is owned lock stock and barrel by the Saudis, conventional diplomacy does not apply here.

.....not when you have an unconventional incompetent injecting himself with habitual community agitation dressed as foreign policy.

Posted by: ontherocks at September 08, 2013 07:52 PM (uIShF)

334 The Saudis and Qataris are the biggest beneficiaries of an American strike on Syria. Qatar gets it natural gas pipeline to Europe and Saudis control ALL energy flow from the Gulf. Since they are the people who will gain from the chemical attacks, logic dictates that they are more than likely the people ultimately behind said attacks. On a further note, there is absolutely zero chance of Putin allowing that pipeline to be installed. Russia would lose way too much money, and more importantly political inluence in Europe, if that were to happen.

Posted by: False Flag Fleabag at September 09, 2013 08:57 AM (ugAvG)

335 Let me get this straight. Obama is willing to go to war for pipelines now? Time to bomb Canada!

Posted by: Keystone Pipeline at September 09, 2013 09:00 AM (ugAvG)

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