October 01, 2013

Scenes From the Ruling Class
— Ace

Trent Lott, now working at a "powerhouse law and lobbying firm," lays it out for you.

Regarding the Shutdown, Lott says of Boehner and Co.:


"They've made their point," Lott huffed. "It's time to say enough and move on." Referring to the die-hard tea partiers in the House Republican caucus, he added, "These new guys don't care about making things work."

...

I asked Lott if his old GOP pals still serving in the Senate have lost control of their party. How do they feel about that? I inquired. Lott shook his head: "That Ted Cruz. They have to teach him something or cut his legs out from under him."

Cut his legs out? Yeah, Lott replied with a chuckle. He noted that when he was in the House in the 1980s he mounted a campaign against a fellow Republican who had challenged him for a leadership post. "Took me two years," he recalled. "But I got him. And he was out of the House." Recalling his vindictiveness and hardball politics, Lott chuckled once more. "Call me if you want more red meat," he said, before heading toward the car waiting for him.

There is an old saying that every profession is a conspiracy against the laity. It's quite true.

It's time to kick the professionals out of politics -- at least the elective offices.

We cannot endure a government which is so determined to rule against the wishes of the people.

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1 I like the part where Trent Lott huffed. Because one always appears so reasonable and sagelike when huffing.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 01, 2013 11:40 AM (t06LC)

2 Trent, thanks for reminding me why you are not missed in the Senate. Too bad you didn't take your buddy Thad Cochran with you.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 01, 2013 11:41 AM (/Crba)

3 Term limits. And repeal the 17th amendment while we're at it.

Posted by: brak at October 01, 2013 11:41 AM (iEoiA)

4 What was Lott huffing?  Paint thinner?

Posted by: rabid squirrel at October 01, 2013 11:41 AM (QSvuk)

5 The man was so tough and "red meat" that he resigned for saying Happy Birthday to Strom Thurmond.

We need more tough guys like that.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 01, 2013 11:42 AM (YmPwQ)

6

We cannot endure a government which is so determined to rule against the wishes of the people.

-

That is going on a t-shirt.

 

Or, my headstone, whichever.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 01, 2013 11:42 AM (9T/th)

7 I'm proud to be a Mississippian, but I'm often ashamed at the folks we send to represent us in Congress. Sigh...perhaps I oughta just move to Texas.

Posted by: Boogie at October 01, 2013 11:42 AM (Vm9OZ)

8 Term limits. 150% taxation rate on those going to work for a lobbying firm for five years after leaving a government position. Every single elected official gets a primary challenger. Five year limitation on working for a federal agency (military is not a federal agency for purposes of this rule). That's off the top of my head.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 01, 2013 11:42 AM (VtjlW)

9 There are four completely distinct and separate critiques of ObamaCare, and as of today they're all getting blurred and jumbled together. This is pitiful and disastrous messaging, because the four critiques are not similar to each other and more importantly they to some degree cancel each other out -- and the Low Information Voters will not be able to sort the critiques out, and the end result is an ineffective mishmash of criticisms that have no effective punch because we'e arguing four mutually negating points at once. Consider the four critiques: 1. The original (and correct) critique of ObamaCare is that, regardless of whether or not it benefits some individuals and regardless of whether or not millions of Americans end up getting "free" health care, the entire ACA system will eventually destroy the American economy overall. It will lead to bankruptcy or at a minimum greatly increased indebtedness, causing ruination for everyone in the long run. 2. The system, whether or not it leads to cheaper healthcare for some people, will inevitably leads to an increased totalitarian dependency state, with the government aware of your every life detail, and having undue control over our daily existence. 3. Totally aside from critiques 1 and 2, a new critique has arisen in recent weeks that ObamaCare "won't work" in that it won't actually save most people any money or convenience; in fact, it seems to set to makes things MORE expensive and MORE inconvenient for a substantial majority of people forced to participate in it. This also is true. 4. And lastly, the critique of the moment is that ObamaCare is not currently being -- and likely will not be in the future -- seamlessly implemented, so that people can't even get their spiffy new health insurance anyway. This argument may be true at the moment, but embedded in it is the implication that ObamaCare is something desirable and worth getting, and that the government is failing us by not doling out our freebies in an efficient or competent way. Now, while of these anti-ObamaCare arguments may be true in and of themselves, there is no clear and distinct messaging about them as separate arguments, and instead everything is blurring together. Which ends up negating the effect of ALL of the arguments in the chaos of the media whirlwind.

Posted by: zombie at October 01, 2013 11:42 AM (+cx5n)

10 Trent Lott didn't make enough cash while he was actually in Congress and now has a lobbying gig, working with his old "friends".

Eff 'em.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 01, 2013 11:42 AM (wtvvX)

11 Another GOPer looking for love in all the wrong places.

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 01, 2013 11:42 AM (CXr4y)

12 C'mon guys, you should listen to Trent Lott and and Karl Rove. I mean, just look how widely revered and respected they are among independents!

Posted by: The Deuce at October 01, 2013 11:42 AM (oDCMR)

13 Was he wearing his cheerleaders sweater? Nothing like a male cheerleader to put the fear of God into a man. That and mimes and clowns. Scary.

Posted by: Chaos, it the other dark meat at October 01, 2013 11:42 AM (oDCMR)

14 They are doing everything in their power to destroy Cruz. Sound familiar?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 01, 2013 11:43 AM (IXrOn)

15

I would note to old Trent that went around came around, and that he got canned out of his position int eh Senate.*

 

 

 

*Yes, he got the cushy lobbying gig, but that was always a given under the system. - and why he wants to keep the system going.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Get Your supplies for Opening Day of RINO Season here! at October 01, 2013 11:43 AM (hLRSq)

16 I met that bastard   at the GOP convention in 1992.  He was a dick then, and age has turned him to vinegar.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 01, 2013 11:43 AM (9T/th)

17 Because one always appears so reasonable and sagelike when huffing.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 01, 2013 03:40 PM (t06LC)

 

Indubitably.

Posted by: Guy with face covered with paint at October 01, 2013 11:43 AM (ggRof)

18 Let it Burn. I seem to be sitting on tons of Gasoline and jet fuel. Can anyone spare a match?

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at October 01, 2013 11:43 AM (0ua55)

19 The man was so tough and "red meat" that he resigned for saying Happy Birthday to Strom Thurmond. At the time, I wondered why his colleagues turned on him so quickly. No longer a mystery.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 01, 2013 11:44 AM (QF8uk)

20 Alex - I think Instapundit had much the same idea about the revolving door.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Get Your supplies for Opening Day of RINO Season here! at October 01, 2013 11:44 AM (hLRSq)

21 Politician is as Politician does.

Posted by: Forest at October 01, 2013 11:44 AM (YnQnk)

22

"It's time to kick the professionals out of politics -- at least the elective offices."

 

Once again, unless and until my plan is adopted, which can only be done with grass roots support, nothing in politics will change.

 

Congressmen and senators need a massive pay increase, matching bonuses, private jet time  and housing allowances.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 11:44 AM (u2a4R)

23 Trent, thanks for reminding me why you are not missed in the Senate. Too bad you didn't take your buddy Thad Cochran with you. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 01, 2013 03:41 PM (/Crba) Yes, yes, a thousand times yes! I'm hoping Cochran will retire next year. There's a relatively young, conservative state senator named Chris McDaniel that folks are urging to run for the seat, but I don't know if he'd be able to overcome Cochran's name recognition...not to mention the fact that Cochran has managed to throw a ton of federal money into the state.

Posted by: Boogie at October 01, 2013 11:44 AM (Vm9OZ)

24 I like to think of the Shutdown as an intervention, carried out by the Tea Party, to show the government what a crack whore it's become.

Time for some rehab.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 01, 2013 11:44 AM (wtvvX)

25 Let it all burn to the ground.

Posted by: Brewer at October 01, 2013 11:45 AM (eV1I0)

26

Shorter Lott:  My and my cronies fortunes are tied to government giving out the goods - dumb@ss tea parties best drop dead

Posted by: meh at October 01, 2013 11:45 AM (W2qJe)

27

I asked Lott if his old GOP pals still serving in the Senate have lost control of their party. How do they feel about that? I inquired. Lott shook his head: "That Ted Cruz. They have to teach him something or cut his legs out from under him."

 

Awww, how cute.   Trent Lott thinks the GOP is the future of the 'pubbie party.   *ruffles his hair*    

 

They have no idea     that they're   done.    Absolutely no idea.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 11:45 AM (4df7R)

28 speaking of Gen. Ulysses S. Cruz --

We can't spare stand this man. He fights.

Posted by: Party of Lincoln at October 01, 2013 11:45 AM (8Q9/U)

29

Shorter Lott:  My and my cronies fortunes are tied to government giving out the goods - dumb@ss tea partiers best drop dead

Posted by: meh at October 01, 2013 11:45 AM (W2qJe)

30 Trent Lott is a good example of a true politico. He was always in it for the money, power, and status. If he'd been born in a blue state, he'd have been a Democrat. He has no principles, just a desire for wealth, power, and status. Scum like Lott are the norm, sadly. Which is why you have to make it attractive for men like him to do your bidding. The left has been better at making being a leftist Democrat a good pathway to wealth, power and status.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 01, 2013 11:45 AM (ZPrif)

31 Gosh I just can't understand why conservatives are so pissed off at the GOP and think they are unserious about stopping the increase in the size of government.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 01, 2013 11:45 AM (3Vi4Y)

32 trent a poster boy for the Old Gauad and quite a Hummpf backdoor Republican..

Posted by: Jet Built Around Cannon at October 01, 2013 11:45 AM (4L2D1)

33 Trent Lott, still an entitled PoS that was never worthy of his office!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 01, 2013 11:46 AM (XdnQT)

34 Wonders what Gabe thinks of Lott now? /sarc/

Posted by: Chin puller at October 01, 2013 11:46 AM (W2qJe)

35 Eh--David Corn at Mother Jones.... His motive would be to gin up the divide--on one side.

Posted by: tasker at October 01, 2013 11:46 AM (r2PLg)

36 Well of course he wants the old guard to take control. He's a lobbyist that gets paid for access to power. We have way too many representatives who think they work for lobbyists and not us.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2013 11:46 AM (g1DWB)

37 Shit Trent Lott and his buddies still in the Senate can't do a fucking thing. Technology has allowed the people of this country to be up to date practically to the second when something like this is attempted in Washington now. Cruz never would have won the primary in Trent Lott's day but technology has allowed for the grassroots to consolidate support and power in a way that is way beyond Lott, McCain, Graham and the others now.

Their time has passed and its likely that the rest of his buddies will join him on the sidelines come 2014/16.

Posted by: H Badger at October 01, 2013 11:46 AM (n/0Nw)

38 What was Lott huffing? Paint thinner? Posted by: rabid squirrel at October 01, 2013 03:41 PM (QSvuk) Visual depiction of Trent Lott huffing: http://bit.ly/1c1tju0

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 01, 2013 11:47 AM (VtjlW)

39 Why the fuck is Trent Lott talking to Mother Jones?

Posted by: Y-not at October 01, 2013 11:47 AM (5H6zj)

40 Lott should be waterboarded. Just for the hell of it.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 01, 2013 11:47 AM (vd7A8)

41 I asked Lott if his old GOP pals still serving in the Senate have lost control of their party.


Michael says that if you can't take care of this -- I have to.

Posted by: Rocco at October 01, 2013 11:47 AM (8ZskC)

42 I may not know who Joan Walsh is--but I do know Mother Jones is near Commie and David Corn is.... not well motivated. Really-- why would Lott offer red meat to David Corn and Mother Jones?

Posted by: tasker at October 01, 2013 11:47 AM (r2PLg)

43 We cannot endure a government which is so determined to rule against the wishes of the people. America, 1781 - 201.....?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at October 01, 2013 11:48 AM (4p5/2)

44 One Ted Cruz is worth at least 1000 Trent Lotts...



Unless you're an establishment statist ruling class whore!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 01, 2013 11:48 AM (XdnQT)

45 The average politico just wants to rise to the top of whatever power structure currently rules his society. That will always be the case. A man like Trent Lott would be equally happy climbing up the rungs of the Saudi ruling family in Shariastan Arabia or Communist Party China or Fascist Italy. The man has no ideology and never did.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 01, 2013 11:48 AM (ZPrif)

46 30 Trent Lott is a good example of a true politico. He was always in it for the money, power, and status. If he'd been born in a blue state, he'd have been a Democrat. He has no principles, just a desire for wealth, power, and status. --- He WAS born in a blue state. He just happened to read the tea leaves well enough to know that the Republican party wouldn't be a death knell for political ambitions in Mississippi anymore.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 01, 2013 11:48 AM (/Crba)

47 150% taxation rate on those going to work for a lobbying firm for five years after leaving a government position. Is that part of the Glenn Reynolds plan for the revolving door? If not, you should take a look, I think it's schtick, but it's good stuff.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 01, 2013 11:48 AM (yETln)

48 Alex - I think Instapundit had much the same idea about the revolving door. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet - Get Your supplies for Opening Day of RINO Season here! at October 01, 2013 03:44 PM (hLRSq) It's not plagiarism, it's an homage! Yeah, I totally stole it from Insty.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 01, 2013 11:49 AM (VtjlW)

49 Trent Lott, isn't he the guy whose State Capitol is being ran by Fidel Castro these days?

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 01, 2013 11:49 AM (9jfyN)

50 Can't. Speak. Too. Pissed.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 11:49 AM (DmNpO)

51 8 Term limits. 150% taxation rate on those going to work for a lobbying firm for five years after leaving a government position. Every single elected official gets a primary challenger. Five year limitation on working for a federal agency (military is not a federal agency for purposes of this rule). That's off the top of my head. Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 01, 2013 03:42 PM (VtjlW) Congressmen are not allowed to have residences in or around DC. They can sleep in military style barracks or in their offices.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 01, 2013 11:49 AM (3Vi4Y)

52 The original 1996 Contract With America was one of the first real innovations in conservative politics, and conservative-driven political reform, in more than a decade.

Make congressional lawmakers subject to the same laws as ordinary citizens are in the rest of the country? Brilliant. And the polling reflected that. Such provisions were popular even across party lines. Lots of old time Reagan Democrats liked that kind of talk.

Then the momentum got frittered away. And reform failed.

Part of it was a fuckup on the part of the House leadership. Gingrich and Livingstone failed to realize that they could not mount an impeachment push, on the basis of what the public was going to inaccurately parse as a matter of a private adulterous liaison, while themselves having personal lives that were not simon-pure. A major miscalculation.

But a lot of the rest of the failure of conservative reform in that era goes directly to genial old corruptocrats like Trent Lott up in the Senate. Who never were too keen on these new bomb-throwing revolutionaries down in the House. Why, if too many of those bombs were to go off, the flow of pork might be interrupted. And no one would ever want that. Let's just "cut their legs out from under them" and get back to the friendly business of mulcting the public, shall we?

Posted by: torquewrench at October 01, 2013 11:49 AM (gqT4g)

53 "It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctively American criminal class except Congress."  Mark Twain

Posted by: huerfano at October 01, 2013 11:49 AM (bAGA/)

54 Here's Corn's latest book of 2012-- Showdown: The Inside Story of How Obama Fought Back Against Boehner, Cantor, and the Tea Party – William Morrow, 2012.

Posted by: tasker at October 01, 2013 11:49 AM (r2PLg)

55
Completely off topic, but...this is pretty cool:

"The next orbital flight test of the Grasshopper technology is planned for the next International Space Station delivery mission for SpaceX's Dragon cargo ship, currently slated for February. If all goes well, Musk says, the first stage of the Falcon 9 used for that flight will have landing legs. The plan is to have the first stage booster touch down back at its Cape Canaveral launch site.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 01, 2013 11:49 AM (0IhFx)

56 Hey, Trent, how's that co-opting of the TEA going?

ESAD, buddy.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 01, 2013 11:49 AM (eHIJJ)

57 Guys, everytime Gabe starts up with his bullshit, post that snippet.

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at October 01, 2013 11:49 AM (p7BzH)

58 Public Service Message - Every day the government is 'shut down' is another day that ObamaCare is unfunded. Another day that 10's of thousands of IRS agents remain unhired, living in Mom's basement, playing WoW. This is not a bad thing.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 01, 2013 11:50 AM (U2UQk)

59 The only reason we got rid of Lott was he was dumb enough in college to pose for a picture in blackface. Once he said some nice things about Strom Thurmond's dixiecrat career the press hounded him out of office. At least Bush and Co. let him twist in the wind.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at October 01, 2013 11:50 AM (HEa5q)

60 Translation; I got kicked in the nuts once. I cried, walked away and then two years later slashed his tires in the middle of the night.

What a chicken turd.

Posted by: Marcus at October 01, 2013 11:50 AM (GGCsk)

61 Ted Cruz is the new Rorschach test. Him and the American Flag. Show a person a picture of either and ask what they see. Their answer will tell you which side they're on.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 01, 2013 11:50 AM (yETln)

62 I mean, really! Name one thing Cruz has done to draw this much ire from his own party! It has to be more than the fact that he hasn't gone around and kissed enough of the establishment rings, right? *** WRONG! that is precisely why they hate him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 11:50 AM (DmNpO)

63 "The original 1996 Contract With America"

I meant, of course, the 1994 version. Silly rabbit.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 01, 2013 11:50 AM (gqT4g)

64 Yeah, I totally stole it from Insty.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 01, 2013 03:49 PM (VtjlW)


Think Insty also had a tax consequence for spouses, and children of revolving door politicos.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 01, 2013 11:51 AM (XdnQT)

65 Anyone else in the Congress forgoing their paycheck during the shutdown? Ted Cruz is.

Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2013 11:51 AM (W6bkf)

66 Really-- why would Lott offer red meat to David Corn and Mother Jones? Posted by: tasker at October 01, 2013 03:47 PM


He's an amoral dick who only cares about Trent Lott?

Posted by: huerfano at October 01, 2013 11:51 AM (bAGA/)

67 Really-- why would Lott offer red meat to David Corn and Mother Jones?

Posted by: tasker at October 01, 2013 03:47 PM (r2PLg)

 

My question   is why Mother Jones would bother seeking out an old, irrelevant fossil like Trent Lott in the first place.  It's pretty clear they just    snagged him in the parking lot.   What, were they getting  paninis at the local ecofriendly cafe and just happened to   see    Lott wandering past the window?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 11:51 AM (4df7R)

68 Anyone know enough about the House Minority Whip elections of the 80s to be able to tell who the House member is that Lott is referring to? Lott spent the 80s as the Minority Whip to Bob Michell before leaving to take John Stennis' Senate seat. He was eventually replaced by Dick Cheney, and by Gingrich after Cheney became SecDef, so there's only about an 8-10 year window to dig through. I'm curious as to whether they ended up losing a seat just so he could cut the nuts off a guy who challenged him.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 01, 2013 11:51 AM (/Crba)

69

Term limits are a terrible idea.

 

You would only end up with ultra-powerful staff operating in the background while idiots were elected to be front men.

 

 

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 11:51 AM (u2a4R)

70 The Dems are on the steps of the Capitol dragging out furloughed employees. Cspan

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 11:51 AM (DmNpO)

71 Cruz is definitely making the right people mad.

I'm on that bandwagon.  Fuckit.

Posted by: eleven at October 01, 2013 11:52 AM (KXm42)

72



Man, I just can't figure out why we are where we are!

It's almost like all the Republicans have been lying all the time for years and years!

It's remarkably shocking as hell!!!


Posted by: Rev Dr E Ed Shults, Esq at October 01, 2013 11:52 AM (raGXo)

73 It's a guild.

Maybe the bastards should unionize and complete the process.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 01, 2013 11:52 AM (/kU/5)

74 Trent, didn't your career in the public sector end because you said something incredibly stupid? Yeah, that should've been your queue to shut your fucking mouth.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 01, 2013 11:52 AM (xmcEQ)

75 OT: medved is getting his RINO ass kicked His tears are sweet On topic, jwest is a commie

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 01, 2013 11:52 AM (0XV8C)

76 This is what happens when a society removes the physical danger involved in being a lying elitist  scumbag.

Posted by: Jaws at October 01, 2013 11:53 AM (4I3Uo)

77 >>Someone help me out. There has been a long tradition of ex-Senators and Reps who go into the lobbying business once their "public service" careers end. They get paid a shitload of cash to use their access and influence to dominate the people in the Senate and House. That is their meal ticket. A guy like Cruz does not play by the rules. He actually does what he said he was going to do and he represents the wishes of his constituents. Guys like Lott have no influence over him. Therefore, he must be destroyed.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2013 11:53 AM (g1DWB)

78 Cue, even. Damn IT career.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 01, 2013 11:53 AM (xmcEQ)

79 Wait...correct me if I'm wrong but....isn't Lott's opinion about the same as....Gabe's?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 01, 2013 11:53 AM (bCEmE)

80 50 Can't. Speak. Too. Pissed. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 03:49 PM (DmNpO) 51 Forgive my ignorance (because I have to be ignorant to something the rest of you know), but just what do these Cruz haters hate about him so much? I mean, really! Name one thing Cruz has done to draw this much ire from his own party! It has to be more than the fact that he hasn't gone around and kissed enough of the establishment rings, right? Someone help me out. Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at October 01, 2013 03:49 PM (tWmgi) *********** So--the Republicans finally kind of came together on this. The goal here is to get you all to react like this. The focus should be on Democrats and Obama--this is obfuscation. Get it? Ace shouldn't really fall for it. It matters little. 90% of Americans polled couldn't tell you who the hell Lott is.

Posted by: tasker at October 01, 2013 11:53 AM (r2PLg)

81 You would only end up with ultra-powerful staff operating in the background while idiots were elected to be front men. we already have that

Posted by: brak at October 01, 2013 11:53 AM (iEoiA)

82 But a lot of the rest of the failure of conservative reform in that era goes directly to genial old corruptocrats like Trent Lott up in the Senate. Well, yeah. Clinton ran on more elements of the Contract with America than Dole did. True story.

Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2013 11:53 AM (W6bkf)

83 Rorschack test.  That's good.

Posted by: eleven at October 01, 2013 11:53 AM (KXm42)

84 "Call me if you want more red meat," he said, before heading toward the car waiting for him. Whatever you say sir. Washington DC P: 202-457-5290 F: 202-457-6315

Posted by: RWC - this too shall pass. (damn taco bell) at October 01, 2013 11:53 AM (fWAjv)

85 51 Forgive my ignorance (because I have to be ignorant to something the rest of you know), but just what do these Cruz haters hate about him so much? I mean, really! Name one thing Cruz has done to draw this much ire from his own party! It has to be more than the fact that he hasn't gone around and kissed enough of the establishment rings, right? Someone help me out. Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at October 01, 2013 03:49 PM (tWmgi) He's a politician that is interested in increasing his name recognition and popularity among the people that can and might one day vote for him depending on the offices he seeks.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 01, 2013 11:53 AM (3Vi4Y)

86

Reprehensible.    Disgusting.      Repugnant.     Why     are     we    letting    these      fuckers     tell     US     what    to    do?

 

Consent      withdrawn.

 

 

The      Tree    of     Liberty     needs     fertilized,    now    more     than     ever.        Let's     start     with      Lott......

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at October 01, 2013 11:54 AM (g+Cz1)

87 I would like to say something but I don't use profanity.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 01, 2013 11:54 AM (r+7wo)

88

Any idea who he ran out of Congress? 

 

I was living pay  check to pay check back in the 80's and only had the Mpls Red Star and Tribune for info.  For some reason I remember Vin Weber?

Posted by: rd at October 01, 2013 11:54 AM (D+lxs)

89
*Waaahhhha.  Wahhhhaah. Sobs. Cries. Whines.*

This shutdown is hurting my ability to make millions lobbying!  And screwing the taxpayers.

But mostly hurting my ability to make millions lobbying and screwing the taxpayers.

Posted by: Trent Lott-a-cash at October 01, 2013 11:54 AM (sj9LN)

90 Reality is, sadly, that any ruling coalition will be mostly made up of Trent Lott types because they are effective at rising to power. It's exactly their amoral ambition that lets them rise so high. So they system has to somehow harness that power for good instead of evil. US constitution was pretty good at that for a while.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 01, 2013 11:54 AM (ZPrif)

91 Ted Cruz is a known Cubanadian with questionable Bro credentials.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 01, 2013 11:55 AM (ZshNr)

92 Forgive my ignorance (because I have to be ignorant to something the rest of you know), but just what do these Cruz haters hate about him so much? It is amazing how much pushing people out of their comfort zone annoys them. Being an also ran is a pretty comfortable position for some people. Still get the pay and perks but no one asks much from you.

Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2013 11:55 AM (W6bkf)

93 He seemed disturbingly proud that he successfully exacted revenge because someone didn't support his speakership. I may have to rethink my opposition to term limits.

Posted by: boned to the bone at October 01, 2013 11:55 AM (Ph479)

94 Hey, thinly veiled threats of violence aren't cool. Looks like a moby.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 01, 2013 11:55 AM (ZPrif)

95 51 Forgive my ignorance (because I have to be ignorant to something the rest of you know), but just what do these Cruz haters hate about him so much? --- Snarky answers aside, I can't figure it out. Look, I think it takes all kinds to make a coalition and communicate a message, whether it be in media talking heads or as politicians. We've had some people who have rallied conservatives on specific issues -- some of those folks are, to be generous, a little one-dimensional in their appeal or limited in their abilities or flawed in some way. (I'd put Michele Bachmann in that category, but YMMV.) But Ted Cruz, thus far anyway, seems to have very few down sides, either in substance or style. So even if you disagree with his approach on this issue, there is no benefit to the GOP that I can see to destroying him. It's not so much that you have to love Ted Cruz to pass my purity test, but if you paint him as a wacko bird or hobbit or liar, then I'm writing you off.

Posted by: Y-not at October 01, 2013 11:56 AM (5H6zj)

96 Oy. Catch you guys later. Don't get your blood pressure through the roof over a Mother Jones article. Who the hell reads them? Hippies and ...well-- I dunno. People looking to get their crank yanked.

Posted by: tasker at October 01, 2013 11:56 AM (r2PLg)

97 This is what happens when a society removes the physical danger involved in being a lying elitist scumbag. Tree of Liberty + watered. Some assembly required.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2013 11:56 AM (lwkv9)

98 I would like to say something but I don't use profanity.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 01, 2013 03:54 PM (r+7wo)

 

'Sokay, twin.   I swear enough for the both of us. 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 11:56 AM (4df7R)

99

This was less a White House strategy than simply staying in the corner the House GOP had painted them into — to the White House’s surprise, Obama was forced to do what he so rarely has as president: he said no, and he didn’t stop saying no.

Good Golly !! The President wins by being President NO
The Party of NO .. BAD,     President NO ... GOOD

 

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 01, 2013 11:57 AM (e8kgV)

100

Hey, I've got an idea.

 

Let's continue to do everything we do now, paying ego driven millionaires or people with nothing to lose a piss-change salary, not giving them any incentive to make government efficient, crawling up their asses with microscopes and making sure we publish pictures if their kid picks his nose then expect something to change with the quality of leadership because we really, really want it to.

 

Yeah, that'll work.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 11:57 AM (u2a4R)

101 Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 01, 2013 03:52 PM (0XV8C) I don't know how to break this to you gently so I'm just going to say it. My football team has only one less win than your football team. *bounds off*

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 01, 2013 11:57 AM (VtjlW)

102 Trent Lott thinks Trent Lott is a bad-ass, which I find funny.

Posted by: Dr Spank (Twitter Can Blow Me) at October 01, 2013 11:57 AM (qRasw)

103 66 Anyone else in the Congress forgoing their paycheck during the shutdown? ---- Lady Lindsey tweeted that he's giving his to Wounded Warriors.

Posted by: Y-not at October 01, 2013 11:58 AM (5H6zj)

104 Union presidents moaning on the capitol steps

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 11:58 AM (DmNpO)

105
I called up the Maryland exchange hotline but accidentally put my iPhone on "mute" (oops!).  The lady on the other end sounded frustrated.

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 01, 2013 11:58 AM (UypUQ)

106 *bounds off*

Bounder.

Posted by: eleven at October 01, 2013 11:58 AM (KXm42)

107 o even if you disagree with his approach on this issue, there is no benefit to the GOP that I can see to destroying him. There is if you are Dem Lite & he isn't...

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2013 11:58 AM (lwkv9)

108 Rep Scott Rigell (Va-2) is going beyond McCain or King (of NY) has said in his GOP bashing. Is anyone familiar with Kevin Meynardie who is running against him in the GOP primary. Meynardie looks good, but not like a serious contender. Any opinions?

Posted by: GeneTheRINO at October 01, 2013 11:58 AM (KOtE7)

109 Now I don't feel so bad about Lott getting shit-canned for an innocent remark at Strom Thurmond's 100th birthday party or for his wife turning into a pillar of salt.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 01, 2013 11:58 AM (Hx5uv)

110 Well I've been waiting for SMOD all day and it hasn't come...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at October 01, 2013 11:58 AM (9+ccr)

111 Having worked (briefly) in the government (at the city level and as an intern in the US Senate) and having run my own business for many years, the most striking thing about the government is the attitude toward money. In a private company, the mindset is always to maximize revenue and minimize costs without harming service. That mindset pervades every decision. In the government, those considerations are not in the top 25. In fact, cost usually isn't a concern at all. If $25,000 is budgeted for a project and it can get done for $10,000; you can be sure $25,000 will be spent. Go along to get along must end and the current Trent Lotts must be retired. Unfortunately, that is a majority of the current Republican caucus.

Posted by: unknown at October 01, 2013 11:59 AM (UpdGw)

112 Lady Lindsey tweeted that he's giving his to Wounded Warriors. *** Kudos. It's a good move.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 11:59 AM (DmNpO)

113 Saw this yesterday.  He's right and they're angry with him for speaking the truth.
"New York Times Correspondent: ‘There’s No Such Thing as Democrats and Republicans Anymore’"
http://tinyurl.com/kvwafqz

It is worth your valuable time.

Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 11:59 AM (Nx76m)

114 "Name one thing Cruz has done to draw this much ire from his own party!"

Democrats hate him because he's a class traitor. He picked up the Ivy League education which is traditionally one of their turnstiles to attaining huge power in the institutional left, and turned his back on the whole rotten edifice instead of joining it.

Republicans hate him because he's a class traitor to them, too. His other option in life was to do what "mainstream" Republicans have long since accustomed themselves to doing, which is stealing what leftovers they can for themselves off of the banquiet table of the leviathan State, without ever seriously challenging any of its underlying premises or seriously fighting the other party. Cruz rejected them and all their works.

Little wonder there is so much poisonous whispering behind the guy's back.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 01, 2013 11:59 AM (gqT4g)

115 I'm on the Brian Hoyer bandwagon. 



Until further notice.

Posted by: eleven at October 01, 2013 11:59 AM (KXm42)

116

51 Forgive my ignorance (because I have to be ignorant to something the rest of you know), but just what do these Cruz haters hate about him so much?

 

I can tell you at least one reason:  he's a freshman    Senator acting like he's top dog in the litter.    The good ole boys in the GOPe don't like that he's not taking a backseat and biddably doing as he's told.     How else are they going to be able to run the next guy whose  "turn" it is to run for President in 2016? 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 11:59 AM (4df7R)

117 102. Da comrade

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 01, 2013 11:59 AM (0XV8C)

118 I'd forgotten how I thoroughly disliked Trent Lott.  I am not surprised that he feels the way he does or was such a political douche when he was in office.  What I am not happy about is the realization that he, and probably a lot of the losers of the last 20 years are actively employed as lobbyist in DC and actively fighting the conservative (smaller government) movement of the last few years. 

Posted by: Yip at October 01, 2013 11:59 AM (/jHWN)

119

Just went to look at the underwater webcam on the Channel Islands NP website. I watch it at lunch smotimes, got the following message:

 

Because of the federal government shutdown, all national parks are closed and National Park Service webpages are not operating. For more information, go to www.doi.gov.

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 01, 2013 11:59 AM (nTgAI)

120 I called up the Maryland exchange hotline but accidentally put my iPhone on "mute" (oops!). The lady on the other end sounded frustrated. I lol'd

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2013 11:59 AM (lwkv9)

121 Hrothgar: "One Ted Cruz is worth at least 1000 Trent Lotts..."

I think you just insulted Senator Cruz. A thousand sacks of manure aren't worth much unless I have an especially large garden. I think "Cruz not equal to even one Trent Lott" is more the compliment in current context.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 01, 2013 12:00 PM (eHIJJ)

122 You would only end up with ultra-powerful staff operating in the background while idiots were elected to be front men.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 03:51 PM (u2a4R)

How does that differ from what we have today?

Do you think through anything?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 01, 2013 12:00 PM (/kU/5)

123 106. Wow And the war starts.....

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 01, 2013 12:00 PM (0XV8C)

124 I'd like to see term limits.

I'd also like to see lawmaker's salary tied into the average wage index. If that average wage index goes down, their salary goes down.

And of course, there should be no self-exemptions on laws they pass.

Posted by: Mike at October 01, 2013 12:00 PM (Rk8LS)

125 I'm going to start a guild. Start making scepters, thrones, rings, crowns, and bejeweled staffs. And, spit buckets. Spit buckets of Platinum and Gold. Jump right into the Ruling Class merchandising.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 01, 2013 12:00 PM (IXrOn)

126 Mitch McConnell should go with Lott & hopefully Bevin will win the seat.

Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 12:00 PM (d2QQ4)

127 A thousand sacks of manure aren't worth much unless I have an especially large garden. --- Or just want to express your opinion of ObamaCare by having them delivered to the White House lawn addressed to the SCOAMF personally.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 01, 2013 12:01 PM (/Crba)

128 Lady Lindsey tweeted that he's giving his to Wounded Warriors.

Props to him for that.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 01, 2013 12:01 PM (B/VB5)

129 I mean, Peter King can't go on national television and just say "I hate Cruz because I'm being a petty jerk." I'm aware that King goes after him but I've never bothered to waste my time listening.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at October 01, 2013 03:59 PM (tWmgi)

If Peter King gets re elected it will only be because his district is gerrymandered so he is a sure thing.  His constituents are not satisfied with his performance.  There was many a good laugh in long island bars when he said he was thinking of running for president.

Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 12:01 PM (Nx76m)

130 I mean, really! Name one thing Cruz has done to draw this much ire from his own party! It has to be more than the fact that he hasn't gone around and kissed enough of the establishment rings, right?

Someone help me out.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at October 01, 2013 03:49 PM (tWmgi)


They sent him the "Sit, down, shut up, you are just a Freshman Senator from this super icky state of Texas.  Your betters will get back to you with your voting card all filled out."  He ignored the signal.  If too many of the new puppies don't fall in line when the old dogs bark, then the whole thing goes to sh!t.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 01, 2013 12:01 PM (kXoT0)

131 The Good Ole Boy network is alive and well in MS, and Trent is part and parcel of that. And he has a huge rolodex of names and numbers of the various players in local affairs.
 
I'm sick of it, and it burning down is definitely part of Let It Burn.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 01, 2013 12:01 PM (wNF3N)

132 You would only end up with ultra-powerful staff operating in the background while idiots were elected to be front men. Yes, Minister? Seriously though, how is that different than the current bureaucracy in many departments?

Posted by: bonhomme at October 01, 2013 12:01 PM (yETln)

133 Rep Scott Rigell can go fuck himself

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 01, 2013 12:01 PM (1RQeV)

134 Oops Make that 103 Did we just lose posts or did my Chicago education fail me again?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 01, 2013 12:01 PM (0XV8C)

135 Herding Cats is going straight in the trash when I get home. For real.

Posted by: MrMosis at October 01, 2013 12:01 PM (45Vj6)

136 I called up the Maryland exchange hotline but accidentally put my iPhone on "mute" (oops!). The lady on the other end sounded frustrated.

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 01, 2013 03:58 PM (UypUQ)

 

 

LOL.    Wish    I'd     thought     of      that.

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at October 01, 2013 12:02 PM (g+Cz1)

137

Of the government, by the government, for the government.

It shouldn't be like winning the lottery to be elected, but that's what it's become.

Living large on the backs of the folks.

 

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 01, 2013 12:02 PM (QM5S2)

138 Crap!  And I remember defending Trent Lott for something stupid he said in commemorating Strom Thurmond's birthday.  Yeesh.  That was a waste of time for me!

Posted by: Doc Barak at October 01, 2013 12:02 PM (PLOz8)

139 oh for God's sake it's been less than 24 hours and the rino's are wringing their hands

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 01, 2013 12:02 PM (8JJ6O)

140 Didn't see that one coming no sirree. At an event in Birmingham, Ala. Monday night, former Johns Hopkins neurosurgeon Ben Carson revealed that he had received a visit from the Internal Revenue Service following his much-noted remarks at a National Prayer Breakfast earlier this year. “I had my first encounter with the IRS this year, unsurprisingly after the prayer breakfast,” Carson told an audience that at the annual Business Council of Alabama Chairman’s Dinner, according to a report from Cliff Sims of the Montgomery, Ala.-based Yellowhammer News.

Posted by: RWC at October 01, 2013 12:02 PM (fWAjv)

141 TRUCKERS' strike to roll on Washington Oct. 11-13: pass it on!

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mqbzx38

Faceplant shut their page down; they're suing Faceplant.

Posted by: Beverly at October 01, 2013 12:02 PM (vNWfU)

142 That Ted Cruz. They have to teach him something or cut his legs out from under him." Sounds exactly like a Daily KosKid. Or John McLame. But I repeat myself.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at October 01, 2013 12:02 PM (7ObY1)

143 142 oh for God's sake it's been less than 24 hours and the rino's are wringing their hands --- They're doing it to protect the phony-baloney jobs! Harrumph!

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 01, 2013 12:02 PM (/Crba)

144 #119, MWR, your post and mine at 133, like sisters we be.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 01, 2013 12:03 PM (kXoT0)

145 I'd either go for term limits or, barring that, no government pensions for congresscritters or their staffers.

Posted by: Y-not at October 01, 2013 12:03 PM (5H6zj)

146 Too bad Breitbart had to die.  I imagine he'd be in Lott's face for  two weeks  badgering him on these remarks.

Posted by: Soona at October 01, 2013 12:03 PM (llpSw)

147 Congressmen are not allowed to have residences in or around DC. They can sleep in military style barracks or in their offices. Posted by: Buzzion at October 01, 2013 03:49 PM (3Vi4Y) They can hang in gibbets until the budget is balanced.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 01, 2013 12:03 PM (qyfb5)

148 If Peter King gets re elected it will only be because his district is gerrymandered so he is a sure thing. His constituents are not satisfied with his performance. There was many a good laugh in long island bars when he said he was thinking of running for president. Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 04:01 PM (Nx76m) were they really laughing or did you read their minds?

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 01, 2013 12:03 PM (8JJ6O)

149 Does anyone here actually believe that they will cancel Service Academy football games? I'm calling bullshit. Even so, the house needs to add those to the funding bill it send over tonight and date the Senate to vote it down. The President is now playing games. He knows full well he could fund all that stuff, but instead wants to play childish games. Pathetic.

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 01, 2013 12:03 PM (CXr4y)

150 "Public service" should be a 5-10 year endeavor, not a lifetime career.

Posted by: Y-not at October 01, 2013 12:03 PM (5H6zj)

151 Faceplant shut their page down

Shoulda thrown some "rape a chillbilly" in there. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 01, 2013 12:04 PM (/kI1Q)

152 145 That Ted Cruz. They have to teach him something or cut his legs out from under him."


Sounds exactly like a Daily KosKid. Or John McLame. But I repeat myself.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at October 01, 2013 04:02 PM (7ObY1)

Sounds like the mob to me.

Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 12:04 PM (Nx76m)

153 Cruz: "Name one thing Cruz has done to draw this much ire from his own party."

He's exposing their corrupted, running Statism. That is the single largest threat to be advertised to a country that was founded upon freedom and is supposedly a land of Liberty.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 01, 2013 12:04 PM (eHIJJ)

154 “I had my first encounter with the IRS this year, unsurprisingly after the prayer breakfast,”

Evil cocksuckers.

Posted by: eleven at October 01, 2013 12:04 PM (KXm42)

155 #119, MWR, your post and mine at 133, like sisters we be.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 01, 2013 04:03 PM (kXoT0)

 

 

You, me and chique make three!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 12:04 PM (4df7R)

156 people are angry because Cruz hasn't settled into a life as a member of the political class in the perpetually losing party. --- Rep. Bob Michell settled into the life of a leadership position in the perpetually losing party in the 1980s, spending years as the Minority Leader. The events of the 1993-1994 Congress got a bunch of the young guns pissed off at him to the point where he was completely dumped from leadership when they won the House.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 01, 2013 12:05 PM (/Crba)

157 Too many republicans getting elected waving the flag and talking patriotism while dreaming of fucking us all and planning for their eventual K-street job. Big business is not a friend to conservatives.

Posted by: Drew in MO at October 01, 2013 12:05 PM (cGlgB)

158 They can hang in gibbets until the budget is balanced. In oak trees...

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2013 12:05 PM (lwkv9)

159 BTW;

>I asked Lott if his old GOP pals still serving in the Senate have lost control of their party.<

Their party? This is of course a revealing part of the dialogue as the questioner unwittingly unmasks his bias.

It's not "their" party. That's presumptive and bigoted.

Posted by: Marcus at October 01, 2013 12:05 PM (GGCsk)

160 Keep talking like that Ace and you'll make Malor cry.

Cry Boehner tears, he will.

Posted by: ThomasD at October 01, 2013 12:05 PM (FA+FN)

161 you mad bro?

Posted by: ted cruz at October 01, 2013 12:05 PM (zOTsN)

162 Anyone else in the Congress forgoing their paycheck during the shutdown?

-----

Miss Lindsay sees the writing on the wall, and has decided to donate his salary to the Wounded Warrior Project.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 01, 2013 12:05 PM (YmPwQ)

163 Yeah, its clowns like Lott and Pete King that make implementing Levin's Liberty Amendments even more critical.

Posted by: Iblis at October 01, 2013 12:05 PM (9221z)

164 There was many a good laugh in long island bars when he said he was thinking of running for president.

Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 04:01 PM (Nx76m)

A representative hasn't won since the 19th century.

And King needs to learn elocution or spit the marbles out of his mouth before he runs for anything other than his cushy seat.

God, what an asshole.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 01, 2013 12:05 PM (/kU/5)

165 To be fair, Lott had to go into lobbying.  That much hairspray and mousse ain't cheap.  He's got to burn through 10K a month on that.  The stylist flown to his home for a weekly trim and monthly color from NYC is probably another 5K a month.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 01, 2013 12:06 PM (kXoT0)

166 Little wonder there is so much poisonous whispering behind the guy's back. Well, hopefully Cruz has enough inner, spiritual and personal (ie friends and family) resources to not be deterred by poisonous attacks on him. He also does have a few friends in the Senate. What's the line from "It's a Wonderful Life" -"No man is poor who has friends" or something like that

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2013 12:06 PM (a4Omg)

167 You, me and chique make three! Hawt!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2013 12:06 PM (lwkv9)

168 153 Does anyone here actually believe that they will cancel Service Academy football games? I'm calling bullshit.

Even so, the house needs to add those to the funding bill it send over tonight and date the Senate to vote it down.

The President is now playing games. He knows full well he could fund all that stuff, but instead wants to play childish games.

Pathetic.

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 01, 2013 04:03 PM (CXr4y)

If the alumni get together and fund the travel, the games will go on.  They are refusing to pay for the travel costs.

Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 12:06 PM (Nx76m)

169 I agree Czar Peter, cancelling the games is just too fucking obvious a ploy. They'll dangle the threat, but they won't disrupt the entire NCAA DI season just to make a point they know would backfire.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 01, 2013 12:06 PM (ZshNr)

170 Lott was and is a racist pig.  I feel sorry for anyone who felt or still feels the need to defend him.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 01, 2013 12:06 PM (TOk1P)

171
There was a time in America, mostly because Dems held congress for so long that the Repubs could enjoy all the fruits of "statesmanship" and the Dems were happy because they got everything they wanted and the Repubs got to pretend. 

Yeah, well that shit has ended Trent.  The country can't afford to go down that road anymore, SO Fuck YOU.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 01, 2013 12:06 PM (sj9LN)

172 just what do these Cruz haters hate about him so much?

***

Cruz is a boat-rocking wave-maker when the Establishment wants smooth sailing.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 01, 2013 12:06 PM (Hx5uv)

173 Peter King hates Cruz because Cruz voted against the giant pork barrel Sandy relief bill although there are probably other reasons as well.

Posted by: huerfano at October 01, 2013 12:06 PM (bAGA/)

174 come git some

Posted by: ted cruz at October 01, 2013 12:06 PM (zOTsN)

175 Yes, Minister? Posted by: bonhomme at October 01, 2013 04:01 PM (yETln) It's bizarre just how many political foibles are predicted by that show. I guess we really are following Britain down the path they trod to mediocrity.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 01, 2013 12:06 PM (qyfb5)

176 The current salary (2013) for rank-and-file members of the House and Senate is $174,000 per year.

Piss-change?

You're an idiot.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 01, 2013 12:07 PM (wtvvX)

177 Too bad Breitbart had to die. I imagine he'd be in Lott's face for two weeks badgering him on these remarks. I don't think so. Trent Lott would not be important enough to be on Breitbart's radar. Republicans should put on a press conference detailing the things that the Senate's rejection of their CR is doing. Just have it going continuously. Talk about who in their caucus is not taking their pay. That is the kind of thing AB would do instead of wasting his breath on some washed up old lobbyist.

Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2013 12:07 PM (W6bkf)

178 you aint seen me crazy yet

Posted by: ted cruz at October 01, 2013 12:07 PM (zOTsN)

179 A representative hasn't won since the 19th century. --- Who *was* the last House member to win? Polk? Most of the people I'm thinking of in the 1800s who won it were in the Senate, a state governor, or a general.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 01, 2013 12:07 PM (/Crba)

180 And Cruz is abiding by the wishes of the people? Must be more of those liberal polls - you know, like the ones that predicted an Obama win last year.

Posted by: packsoldier at October 01, 2013 12:07 PM (r2lch)

181 It remains ominously quiet outside. I risked a meeting with some friends for lunch. I was surprised to find that the streets are still paved, and the traffic controls seemed to be functional. Still..., it seems that people were calm..., too calm. It is a case of collective denial, a low-level hysteria manifesting itself as self-imposed restraint. Soon the panic will set in.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 01, 2013 12:07 PM (aDwsi)

182 You, me and chique make three!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 01, 2013 04:04 PM (4df7R)

We can be the AtC, the Empress' ladies.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 01, 2013 12:07 PM (kXoT0)

183 Look here all you teabagging antigovt anarchist national park hating racialist racists, Trent Lott (from the frozen hair coalition) has spoken. Case closed. Got it? Now where the hell is my Obama phone? And didn't somebody tell me my health care was gonna be free? Well?

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 01, 2013 12:07 PM (X+nFp)

184 173 I agree Czar Peter, cancelling the games is just too fucking obvious a ploy. They'll dangle the threat, but they won't disrupt the entire NCAA DI season just to make a point they know would backfire.

Imma leave that one alone out of respect for our men in service.

Posted by: eleven at October 01, 2013 12:08 PM (KXm42)

185
Rorschack test. That's good.

This is their order...repeat this, and you're sane:

Vagina
Vampire Bat
Penis
Penis
Baseball Glove
Vagina
Scary face
Two Penises
Vagina
Vagina
Mom

I read this on the internets, (pre shutdown), so you know it's the Trvth!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 01, 2013 12:08 PM (0IhFx)

186 Ted Cruz doesn't need to change, we have to change the DC idiots with new blood, term limits of 12 years.

Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 12:08 PM (bnAKg)

187 And wholly crap, Pete King- who pooped in his cereal?

The guy is now attacking the entire Republican Party and specifically Cruz.

He wouldn't last five minutes in an intellectual debate, the Vichy Republican he is.

Tell ya what- Pete. Why don't you join the other party. They seem to be more of the unhinged type like you. You can hold Harry's dribble cup.

Posted by: Marcus at October 01, 2013 12:08 PM (GGCsk)

188 I'm pissing off all the right people

Posted by: ted cruz at October 01, 2013 12:08 PM (zOTsN)

189 you aint seen me crazy yet Posted by: ted cruz When he says, "Oh hell no!", head for the exits.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2013 12:09 PM (lwkv9)

190 It remains ominously quiet outside. I risked a meeting with some friends for lunch. I was surprised to find that the streets are still paved, and the traffic controls seemed to be functional. Still..., it seems that people were calm..., too calm. It is a case of collective denial, a low-level hysteria manifesting itself as self-imposed restraint. Soon the panic will set in.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 01, 2013 04:07 PM (aDwsi)

 

 

This business will get out of hand.  It will get out of hand and we'll be lucky to live through it.

 

#StoriesFromTheShutdown

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 12:09 PM (4df7R)

191 173. They need a bill to pay for the army navy game Gotta have the annual army beat down

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 01, 2013 12:09 PM (frroL)

192

We're conservatives.  We're suppose to understand the concept of "you  get what you pay for".

 

We deserve every elected official we have.  They are the best and brightest we're going to get for the money.

 

On the campaign finance side, until we outlaw incumbents fundraising and accepting any money while in office, along with using government funds to match whatever their opponent raises, we'll always end up with type of people and quality of leadership we have right now.

 

Government sucks because we've designed government to suck.  No amount of bitching will change it.  Only change with change it.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 12:10 PM (u2a4R)

193 Vagina
Vampire Bat
Penis
Penis
Baseball Glove
Vagina
Scary face
Two Penises
Vagina
Vagina
Mom

Stole.

Posted by: eleven at October 01, 2013 12:11 PM (KXm42)

194 Fuck Lott.

Posted by: walknot at October 01, 2013 12:11 PM (86zol)

195 "you aint seen me crazy yet"

This does actually raise  a question.   If by some miracle, TC survives this, runs for POTUS, and by the  grace of God gets it, what will  his relationship with the squishes be?

Posted by: Jaws at October 01, 2013 12:11 PM (4I3Uo)

196 Why the fuck is Trent Lott talking to Mother Jones?

Unless there's a "Fuck You", "Get off my lawn" or "first you will blow me" involved doing an MJ interview is an automatic RINO flag.

Posted by: DaveA at October 01, 2013 12:11 PM (DL2i+)

197 The president could cut HIS vacation budget a little and fund the service academy game travel costs.

Posted by: rd at October 01, 2013 12:12 PM (D+lxs)

198 I mean, I've joked about this, but I've never thought the entire upper echelons of the GOP actually embraced the idea. Posted by: The Obsidian -------------------------- Turns out , truth is uglier than fiction.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 01, 2013 12:12 PM (aDwsi)

199 Holy shit! Dems now preaching about how the furloughs are damaging self-esteem.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 12:12 PM (DmNpO)

200 Term limits, three 2-year terms for House and one 6-year term for Senate. And that is after Senators revert to being appointed by state legislatures. This with the following laws-
1. Once maximum terms are served, no return allowed elected, bureaucrat, or lobbyist.
2. No lifetime judges at any level.
3.No person in possession of a law degree allowed to hold elected office except judge.
4. Eligibility rules strictly enforced.
5 Above rules obeyed on pain of death.

Posted by: EROWMER at October 01, 2013 12:13 PM (OONaw)

201 201 Why the fuck is Trent Lott talking to Mother Jones?

Unless there's a "Fuck You", "Get off my lawn" or "first you will blow me" involved doing an MJ interview is an automatic RINO flag.

Posted by: DaveA at October 01, 2013 04:11 PM (DL2i+)

That's easy, no real publication wants to talk to the guy.

Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 12:13 PM (Nx76m)

202 Dems now preaching about how the furloughs are damaging self-esteem. --- Apparently being deemed "non-essential" hurts the poor widdle snowflakes' feelings.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 01, 2013 12:13 PM (/Crba)

203

I remember watching House of Cards and thinking that these people were caricatures.

Those were the days.

Posted by: Wodeshed at October 01, 2013 12:13 PM (ngk0T)

204 One reason I joined the Tea Party was guys like this. My "reps" sent me form letters but never listened to me.

Posted by: backhoe at October 01, 2013 12:13 PM (ULH4o)

205

 

Mother Jones?  Isn't that what B.O. has every night when the eight ball runs out?

Posted by: wth at October 01, 2013 12:13 PM (wAQA5)

206 War on Womyns!!!!! http://tinyurl.com/pw2enk4 Seven Ways the Government Shutdown Will Hit Women Hardest (Slate) -Looking at pandas online in the middle of the day for stress relief.

Posted by: RWC at October 01, 2013 12:14 PM (fWAjv)

207 Ask Senator McCarthy if this is anything new,it was the GOP that did him in,despite tge fact he did nothing wrong.

Posted by: steevy at October 01, 2013 12:14 PM (9XBK2)

208 "...Which ends up negating the effect of ALL of the arguments in the chaos of the media whirlwind. Posted by: zombieWhich ends up negating the effect of ALL of the arguments in the chaos of the media whirlwind. Posted by: zombie" Fuck the media. Healthcare is not a right nor is it an authorized power of the federal government. That is all there is to it; unless and until we can govern according to law - equally applied and justly applied there is no limit to what the powers the state will maintain. We need to be a nation of laws, right now we are not.

Posted by: Melvin Frohike at October 01, 2013 12:14 PM (sYLzD)

209 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 04:12 PM (DmNpO) Self esteem is deflated because people can't push buttons on the elevators for the Congresscritters.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2013 12:14 PM (a4Omg)

210 This does actually raise a question. If by some miracle, TC survives this, runs for POTUS, and by the grace of God gets it, what will his relationship with the squishes be? Posted by: Jaws ----------------------------------- Roughly, that of Drill Instructor to Boots.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 01, 2013 12:14 PM (aDwsi)

211 5 sockpuppet, I forgot that's why Lott had to go,

Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 12:14 PM (WPBmS)

212 I won't say anything about Trent Lott to avoid my self-ban on profanity, but isn't it funny he got ousted for praising Strum Thurmond while Grand Kleagle Robert KKK Byrd was in the senate?

Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 01, 2013 12:15 PM (r+7wo)

213 They want to give Ted Cruz the Sarah Palin and Tea Party treatment. Last I checked Sarah was still a prominent figure, and the Tea Party was still alive. Just not tax exempt. But it's going to require a confluence (I like that word) of the three to make the earth move.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 01, 2013 12:15 PM (U2UQk)

214 Holy shit! Dems now preaching about how the furloughs are damaging self-esteem. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 04:12 PM (DmNpO) Of course they are. *headdesk* Waaay back when I was a wee(er) alex, I was heading towards a career as one of those behind the scenes ultra powerful staffers. I walked away from all of that. When I was asked why, I replied "I hated every second of high school." Funnily enough, nearly everyone understands what I mean by that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 01, 2013 12:15 PM (VtjlW)

215 211. You know, I bet panda steaks tastes pretty damn good

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 01, 2013 12:15 PM (frroL)

216 Wow.  Just wow.

Posted by: dogfish at October 01, 2013 12:15 PM (nsOJa)

217 I am sure it's been mentioned. Lott was and still is a segregationist democrat that changed parties to stay in office. The the name Strom Thurman ring a bell?

Posted by: John Smith at October 01, 2013 12:16 PM (wR+pz)

218

We're conservatives. We're suppose to understand the concept of "you get what you pay for".

 

Used to be you could spend a lot of money on a good pair of shoes and know they'd last for years and years.   You could buy a cheap pair of shoes, too, but then you'd have to replace them more frequently as they wore out.  That was okay because they were cheap.

 

These days you can buy an expensive pair of shoes and they'll wear out in the same amount of time as the cheap pair.   The only reason you spend that much money on a pair of shoes is vanity.     "You got the knockoffs, but I got the REAL Nikes."

 

How much we pay them isn't the problem.   It's how long we keep them after they've worn out    that matters.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 12:16 PM (4df7R)

219 Holy shit! Dems now preaching about how the furloughs are damaging self-esteem. F their self esteem.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2013 12:16 PM (lwkv9)

220

217 -

 

Lott stayed in the Senate for quite some time after the Strom Thurmand flap.

 

May have been years, even.  He lost his Leadership position though. 

Posted by: BurtTC at October 01, 2013 12:16 PM (TOk1P)

221 220 211. You know, I bet panda steaks tastes pretty damn good --- "I wonder what badger tastes like..." "I dunno. Probably tastes like ferret." "Wow, you've had ferret? What's it taste like?" "Chicken."

Posted by: Dr. Denis Leary at October 01, 2013 12:16 PM (/Crba)

222 what will his relationship with the squishes be?

Posted by: Jaws at October 01, 2013 04:11 PM (4I3Uo)

If Ted Cruz wins, that means that the squishes will have been voted out the same day.

But if not, the relationship will be: His Bitches.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 01, 2013 12:16 PM (/kU/5)

223

ATC

 

How about after a person serves in Congress, as part of their pension, they must live in the state they represented for a minimum of the time they were representative or 6 years, whichever is shorter, and cannot set foot in DC during that time period?

Posted by: rd at October 01, 2013 12:17 PM (D+lxs)

224 Newest conspiracy theory:  Teabaggers are hacking the exchanges and that is why they don't work.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 01, 2013 12:17 PM (Hx5uv)

225 217 Yeah,thought he got a raw deal,now I say fuck him(I do not have a self imposed ban on profanity)

Posted by: steevy at October 01, 2013 12:17 PM (9XBK2)

226 you aint seen me crazy yet

Posted by: ted cruz

Are you sayin' you're gonna get Cruzazay?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 01, 2013 12:18 PM (ligos)

227 Remember when Senate leader Lott thought power sharing was a good idea. See how much good will that farce brought?

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at October 01, 2013 12:18 PM (9Bdcz)

228 223. You know you'd get a pair of jimmy choo boots even if they lasted a week

Posted by: Navycopjoe at October 01, 2013 12:18 PM (frroL)

229 I hate these guys. Both Dems and Repubs.

Posted by: GuyfromNH at October 01, 2013 12:18 PM (kbOju)

230 I walked away from all of that. When I was asked why, I replied "I hated every second of high school."

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 01, 2013 04:15 PM (VtjlW)

You sure it wasn't because the steps to the Capitol were too tall for your stride?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 01, 2013 12:19 PM (/kU/5)

231 I cannot wish enough bad juju on these ckufs.  Cruz truly is courageous.

Posted by: dogfish at October 01, 2013 12:19 PM (nsOJa)

232 Newest conspiracy theory: Teabaggers are hacking the exchanges and that is why they don't work. Posted by: WalrusRex ------------------------- Letfty projection. It is what they would do, ergo...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 01, 2013 12:19 PM (aDwsi)

233 229 Newest conspiracy theory: Teabaggers are hacking the exchanges and that is why they don't work.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 01, 2013 04:17 PM (Hx5uv)

Tommorrow's theory: Teabaggers got IT jobs working on the exchanges and purposely did a crap job.  (which would be awesome if true).

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 01, 2013 12:19 PM (UypUQ)

234

I defended that turd  when the Dems  and other light weight Republican pundits went after him.   My defense was  valid but all the same,  I  now regret it  tremendously.

 

 

Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2013 12:19 PM (m2CN7)

235 You know, I bet panda steaks tastes pretty damn good

yankeefifth has a theory about that ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 01, 2013 12:19 PM (YVx8A)

236

I am a state-government employee.

 

I am non-essential.

 

*checks self-esteem meter*


Nope, not so much as a flicker.   Guess my sense of personhood isn't    inextricably       woven into    the fucking   title on my job description.  Who knew!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 12:19 PM (4df7R)

237 ATC How about after a person serves in Congress, as part of their pension, they must live in the state they represented for a minimum of the time they were representative or 6 years, whichever is shorter, and cannot set foot in DC during that time period? Posted by: rd at October 01, 2013 04:17 PM (D+lxs) Also cromulent.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 01, 2013 12:20 PM (VtjlW)

238 yeah, yesterday I heard the "non-essential" government employees were offended by the label "non-essential."

Well, how do you feel about this label:  Butter Sucking Asshole.

That fit you a bit better?  You perpetually offended shit stains?

Posted by: tangonine at October 01, 2013 12:20 PM (x3YFz)

239 Please, oh please let the RNC call me and ask me for money.

Posted by: rockhead at October 01, 2013 12:20 PM (jtTKf)

240 You sure it wasn't because the steps to the Capitol were too tall for your stride?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 01, 2013 04:19 PM (/kU/5)

 

Oh CBD.   You're only going to die tired.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 12:20 PM (4df7R)

241 These ckufs are just as antagonist against anyone else speaking out against them.  That means you.  I am ckufing furious.

Posted by: dogfish at October 01, 2013 12:21 PM (nsOJa)

242 All shoes are now made in China. And we know their penchant for quality manufacturing processes.

Posted by: brak at October 01, 2013 12:21 PM (iEoiA)

243 Ted Cruz has about the same chance of winning a national election as Roseanne Barr.

Posted by: packsoldier at October 01, 2013 12:21 PM (r2lch)

244 >>This does actually raise a question. If by some miracle, TC survives this, runs for POTUS, and by the grace of God gets it, what will his relationship with the squishes be? Calling them squishes isn't really accurate and it masks the real problem. The problem is money. Does anyone wonder why a guy like Paul Ryan, seemingly solid conservative, all of a sudden becomes and advocate for illegal immigration? Money. Big business, the Chamber of Commerce and all the outside lobbyists like Trent Lott want cheap labor and are spending enormous amount of money to "influence" our representatives. And they have a lot more money that we do. And money wins elections. It's not the water in DC that makes these guys change when they get there, it's the money.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2013 12:22 PM (g1DWB)

245 245 Please, oh please let the RNC call me and ask me for money.

Posted by: rockhead at October 01, 2013 04:20 PM (jtTKf)

Right?

Posted by: tangonine at October 01, 2013 12:22 PM (x3YFz)

246 148 #119, MWR, your post and mine at 133, like sisters we be. Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 01, 2013 04:03 PM (kXoT0) Hey! Hands off my twin!

Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 01, 2013 12:22 PM (r+7wo)

247 51 I think republicans are jealous of the grassroots support Ted Cruz has. Cruz has it because he has not turned into one of those that think they are above us. Establishment GOP must be fuming & I'm glad because I've been fuming at GOP for years .

Posted by: CarolT at October 01, 2013 12:22 PM (WCaqs)

248 These days you can buy an expensive pair of shoes and they'll wear out in the same amount of time as the cheap pair. The only reason you spend that much money on a pair of shoes is vanity. "You got the knockoffs, but I got the REAL Nikes." There is certainly a law of diminishing returns on shoes. $15 shoes: don't try to wear them daily, they'll fall apart. $75 shoes: may not be stylish, but will last as long as most more expensive shoes. $300+ shoes: this is for impressing secretaries and some businessmen. They'll almost certainly be uncomfortable, but extremely stylish. They might have free re-soling.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 01, 2013 12:22 PM (yETln)

249 Cruz/Palin/West 2016


They'd shit themselves before their heads explode.



 

Posted by: dananjcon at October 01, 2013 12:22 PM (wmU4G)

250

I'd still defend Trent Lott for saying    what he said back when he was still in Congress, because free speech doesn't    stop being your right even when you're an asshat.

 

That said,   my defense would be along the lines of, "The asshat has the right to say whatever the fuck it wants.     If you don't like it, find another ass-based haberdasher."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 12:22 PM (4df7R)

251 It's kind of a shame Reagan was such a fu*king gentleman. He could have purged these people like Stalin purged his enemies. He had the chance to remake the GOP in his image. Instead he let in the Bushes.

Posted by: rrpjr at October 01, 2013 12:23 PM (c5/fE)

252 51

I'm just against heroes.  Not everybody who disagrees with Cruz is McCain.  The GOP is so desperate for a hero that the warriors turn everything into an us vs them mentality between their hero of the week and the Establishment!!  It's damn annoying.  And the warriors can turn against heroes so quickly without taking any responsibility for the statues they erected. 

Posted by: Shoot Me at October 01, 2013 12:23 PM (qiXMt)

253 All shoes are now made in China.

 

Posted by: brak at October 01, 2013 04:21 PM (iEoiA)

 

 

Funnily enough, so are a lot of politicians.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 12:24 PM (4df7R)

254 You'll never get men like Lott out of politics. The best you can do is build a system that harnesses their egos and limits the damage they can do.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 01, 2013 12:24 PM (ZPrif)

255 217 I won't say anything about Trent Lott to avoid my self-ban on profanity, but isn't it funny he got ousted for praising Strum Thurmond while Grand Kleagle Robert KKK Byrd was in the senate?

Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 01, 2013 04:15 PM (r+7wo)


Why it's if there is a double standard or something.  *shockface*

Posted by: Red Shirt at October 01, 2013 12:24 PM (FIDMq)

256 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 01, 2013 04:04 PM (4df7R) All right. I guess she can be part if the family. But the two if us are twins, ok? She's just our older sister.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 01, 2013 12:24 PM (r+7wo)

257

"How much we pay them isn't the problem."

 

You should write to whoever is handling your retirement investments and let them know that they can hire someone for minimum wage to run things.  They only work in millions and billions, not the trillions we entrust these bozos with.

 

Money matters.  Among the people who would make excellent, responsible congressmen and senators, $175K wouldn't start to pay their normal living expenses.  Add in the cost of maintaining  two residences and finding the right people becomes a joke.

 

Make running for national office a promotion instead of invitation to poverty.  Tap into the sweet spot for executive leadership.  Don't nickel and dime or (which is the main objection) screw the country because of salary envy.

 

 

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 12:24 PM (u2a4R)

258 Now you see low they believe you are and why 404care isn't good enough for them but is for you.  May they reap tenfold what they sow.

Posted by: dogfish at October 01, 2013 12:25 PM (nsOJa)

259 Most people in politics aren't there out of some great conviction -- other than the conviction that they belong in the ruling class.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 01, 2013 12:25 PM (ZPrif)

260 "These new guys don't care about making things work." That's why there is a "Trent Lott *International* Airport" in the middle of aviation nowhere in Mississippi. Got a one-below hop once for straying into the damn thing's approach path while getting off a low-level. Named for him while he was still a sitting Senator. "Making thngs work" means using the Federal government as a sinecure and means of personal glorification.

Posted by: T. at October 01, 2013 12:25 PM (vDd63)

261 Newest conspiracy theory: Teabaggers are hacking the exchanges and that is why they don't work.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 01, 2013 04:17 PM (Hx5uv)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

I thought the Tea Party was dead?  Seems strange that such a dead entity can wield so much power.

Posted by: Soona at October 01, 2013 12:25 PM (llpSw)

262 257 It's kind ofa shame Reagan was such a fu*king gentleman. He could have purged these people like Stalin purged his enemies. He had the chance to remake the GOP in his image. Instead he let in the Bushes.

Posted by: rrpjr at October 01, 2013 04:23 PM (c5/fE)


WTH does that even mean?  "Let in the bushes"  He was senile, idiot, he didn't control the party.  wtf are you talking about?

Posted by: tangonine at October 01, 2013 12:25 PM (x3YFz)

263 All right. I guess she can be part if the family. But the two if us are twins, ok? She's just our older sister.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 01, 2013 04:24 PM (r+7wo)

 

You got it, twin.    *fist bump!*      

 

*pulls Sherry into hug*  Booyah!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 01, 2013 12:25 PM (4df7R)

264 And King needs to learn elocution or spit the marbles out of his mouth before he runs for anything other than his cushy seat. God, what an asshole. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 01, 2013 04:05 PM (/kU/5) He's Mumbles Menino's long lost brother.

Posted by: chique d'afrique, formerly Chelsea, now back to being an actual female at October 01, 2013 12:26 PM (r+7wo)

265 "These new guys don't care about making things work."

That's correct. We're not interested in 'making things work', we're not interested in making a deal with the devil.

Read my book "You can Negotiate Anything" where I say, "the real negotiations don't start until the picket lines go up."

"Anyone else want to Negotiate?"

Posted by: Korben Dallas at October 01, 2013 12:26 PM (+UGAB)

266 NDH: "Dems now preaching about how the furloughs are damaging self-esteem."

Ahahaha!

Technically a laugh is a sort of speech so that didn't leave me speechless, but it really did.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 01, 2013 12:26 PM (eHIJJ)

267 It sounds just like House of Cards, lol. I'm telling you, term limits. We should talk about nothing but term limits. Every discussion should include a plug for term limits. Aside from war, how else could we dethrone the ruling class?

Posted by: Andrew at October 01, 2013 12:27 PM (VjlMj)

268 Make running for national office a promotion instead of invitation to poverty. Tap into the sweet spot forexecutive leadership. Don't nickel and dime or (which is the main objection) screw the country because of salary envy.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 04:24 PM (u2a4R)


You have got to be shitting me. Since when are congresspeople in poverty? Seriously?


They are all of them millionaires, many of them vastly grew their wealth while in office, so what the actual fuck are you talking about?


Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at October 01, 2013 12:27 PM (p7BzH)

269 Senate live on CSpan 2 now. Reid now up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 12:28 PM (DmNpO)

270 257

Reagan won by getting a lot of moderates and even Democrats to vote for him as well as conservatives. So much for a "purge". Yours is a prime example of the kind of rank fuckheadedness that is destroying the conservative movement from within.

Posted by: packsoldier at October 01, 2013 12:28 PM (r2lch)

271 How about after a person serves in Congress, as part of their pension,

Stack all the drums of high level waste (that Harry isn't letting in to Yucca Mtn while he uses it as a boys camp) into the hallways of Congress and the bureaucracy .

Posted by: DaveA at October 01, 2013 12:29 PM (DL2i+)

272 I thought the Tea Party was dead? Seems strange that such a dead entity can wield so much power.

Posted by: Soona at October 01, 2013 04:25 PM (llpSw)


Yer fixin' to find out how much power we wield (grabs lightsaber) <insert relevant movie quote here>

But in all seriousness, the tea party ain't white, ain't black, asian, mexican, arab, caucus, german, irish, greek: our color is the color of the parchment the constitution was written on.  And we're going to bring the hammer.  And it's going to be a long day.

Posted by: tangonine at October 01, 2013 12:29 PM (x3YFz)

273 Cruz's push to push for individual funding bills just keeps on paying off. The Dems say they will not accept the "nitpicking" SOOOOO... that would be yet another "No", Dems?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 12:31 PM (DmNpO)

274

You want to see shit work?

 

Make a bonus of $500K contingent on congress establishing a budget on time that stays with 19% of GDP. 

 

It would make your head spin.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 12:31 PM (u2a4R)

275 During the 112th Congress, there were 420 former member of Congress registered as lobbyists. Think about. 420 former members of Congress getting paid by various special interests to influence Congress. If you think they are doing that for shits and giggles you are sadly mistaken.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2013 12:32 PM (g1DWB)

276 275 Senate live on CSpan 2 now.

Reid now up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 01, 2013 04:28 PM (DmNpO)

Now why the F would I watch that?

Posted by: tangonine at October 01, 2013 12:32 PM (x3YFz)

277 Cruz/Palin/West 2016 You know you'll go to hell for teasing...

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2013 12:32 PM (lwkv9)

278

"They are all of them millionaires, many of them vastly grew their wealth while in office..."

 

Yeah.  How's that  working out for you?

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 12:32 PM (u2a4R)

279 284 "They are all of them millionaires, many of them vastly grew their wealth while in office..."

Yeah. How's that working out for you?

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 04:32 PM (u2a4R)

When the right turns on the rich...it's a party.

Posted by: tangonine at October 01, 2013 12:33 PM (x3YFz)

280 Reagan won by getting a lot of moderates and even Democrats to vote for him as well as conservatives. So much for a "purge". Yours is a prime example of the kind of rank fuckheadedness that is destroying the conservative movement from within.

Posted by: packsoldier at October 01, 2013 04:28 PM (r2lch)

 

Why did the Democrats and 'moderates'  vote for Reagan braniac?   I thought Reagan was the conservative of conservatives,  the tea party before there was a tea party.

 

clueless dumbfuck. 

Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2013 12:34 PM (m2CN7)

281
CT doing it's part to get 30 million uninsured Americans affordable health care coverage by enrolling 22 people in 3 hours. It's a new record!

@AccessHealthCT "Stats:We logged 10,000 visitors in the last 3 hours. 22 enrollments so far."



Connecticut...Making a dent. A very small, tiny, miniscule dent.


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 01, 2013 12:34 PM (0IhFx)

282

281 "During the 112th Congress, there were 420 former member of Congress registered as lobbyists. Think about. 420 former members of Congress getting paid by various special interests to influence Congress."

 

Allow challengers to raise any amount of money they want from any U.S. source.

 

Give incumbents a matching amount to the highest challenger, while making it totally illegal to raise or accept any money while in office. 

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 12:35 PM (u2a4R)

283 260 You'll never get men like Lott out of politics. The best you can do is build a system that harnesses their egos and limits the damage they can do. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 01, 2013 04:24 PM (ZPrif) We could call it... gee, I dunno, a "Constitutional Republic" or something like that.

Posted by: rickl at October 01, 2013 12:35 PM (zoehZ)

284

Think how very, very much less Trent Lott's services are worth if his pals don't control the Senate anymore.   Your damn right Lott wants to break Cruz's legs.  

Posted by: canodad at October 01, 2013 12:35 PM (fqXPm)

285 You want to see shit work? Make a bonus of $500K contingent on congress establishing a budget on time that stays with 19% of GDP. It would make your head spin. How about, "Do what you were elected to do or summary executions begin on Monday. No excuses"?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2013 12:35 PM (lwkv9)

286 >>>They have to teach him something or cut his legs out from under him.<<<

Sounds like some of the dumber fucking trolls on this site.

Posted by: Fritz at October 01, 2013 12:37 PM (x2W/k)

287 @AccessHealthCT "Stats:We logged 10,000 visitors in the last 3 hours. 22 enrollments so far." Connecticut...Making a dent. A very small, tiny, miniscule dent. Like a gnat trying to hump a virgin elephant.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2013 12:37 PM (lwkv9)

288 249 Ted Cruz has about the same chance of winning a national election as Roseanne Barr. Posted by: packsoldier at October 01, 2013 04:21 PM (r2lch) Dunno if you're serious or not, but if so - I disagree. Ted Cruz has about the same chance of winning the Republican nomination as Roseanne Barr. Throwing up the same ol' GHW Bushes, Doles, GW Bushes, McCains, Romneys is the Republican establishment's idea of a winning strategy. I think if Cruz could get the nomination, he'd have about the same chance of winning a national election as Reagan. This is why all the tea party and non-whacko liberterian types need to register Republican. We need to overwhelm the establishment. WTH, the JEF did it to the Dems, why can't we?

Posted by: rockhead at October 01, 2013 12:37 PM (jtTKf)

289

"How about, "Do what you were elected to do or summary executions begin on Monday. No excuses"?"

 

As much as I would like to see that, my idea would work better.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 12:38 PM (u2a4R)

290 Last year, Lott's lobbying firm which is actually a partnership with John Breaux, a former Democratic Senator from LA, took in over $6 million in lobbying fees. And people wonder why he hates Ted Cruz? He doesn't care about Republican issues let alone conservative issues. He cares about money.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2013 12:38 PM (g1DWB)

291 Trent Lott. The man deserves tar and fathering. Everyday. For the rest of his life everyday.

Posted by: Dave in Houston at October 01, 2013 12:44 PM (wB5dd)

292 jwest - Why[i\] is it that a person earning an average salary should not be able to live and work in/around D.C.? Is it a salary problem, or a culture problem? I submit that it is a culture problem. I do not believe for a moment that the average politician is possessed of extraordinary intellect, or even experience. Case in point : Joe Biden. You are suggesting that one answer to the political morass is increasing salaries, which sounds like big-government Republicanism to me. Naturally those doing the job should earn a living wage, but I can not imagine why the pay (and perqs, and benefits) should be an attraction. I regard that as part of the problem. Frankly, I suspect that you feel that those whose financial circumstances are less than affluent, are sub-par in the context of intellect and achievement. There is an air of arrogant elitism about it. I have encountered it many times, in board rooms, in clubs, etc.. It is a contempt for those whose circumstances have been less than your own. It is the Trent Lott attitude. I am not going to get into a pissing contest over this, but statements like "Tap into the sweet spot for executive leadership." is the very methodology that leads to professional, self-promoting politicians.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 01, 2013 12:45 PM (aDwsi)

293 294

What planet do you live on? Reagan won by broadening his appeal to reach out to moderates and disaffected Democrats, not just by preaching to the choir. The only people who really like Cruz are hardcore Tea Tards. Where is he going to get elected outside deep red areas like Texas? He can't even unite his own party behind him, let alone reach to others.


Maybe once the Tea Party has purged enough RINOs, it can secede from the Union and form its own Randian paradise on some deserted island. But it sure as hell won't win any national elections.

Posted by: packsoldier at October 01, 2013 12:45 PM (r2lch)

294 Barrel.....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 01, 2013 12:45 PM (aDwsi)

295 286

Ever heard of Reagan Democrats? Pick up a book sometime, fucktard.

Posted by: packsoldier at October 01, 2013 12:47 PM (r2lch)

296 238 Newest conspiracy theory: Teabaggers are hacking the exchanges and that is why they don't work.

Posted by: WalrusRex
-------------------------

Letfty projection. It is what they would do, ergo...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 01, 2013 04:19 PM (aDwsi)

OMG, thank you for the laugh.  All I could see is all those tea party ladies who in the 1800\s would have a quilting bee, but now having a tea party meeting trying to get on skype to talk to one of their grandaughters at college.  It was hillarious.  They had to run next door and get the college kid engineer to get them into skype and let them have the conversation.  They baked him a bunch of pies, which they thoughtfully froze, for him to take back to school.

Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 12:51 PM (Nx76m)

297 Regardless of what you might think of Cruz' actual tactics or politics, one thing that we all should be happy about is a newcomer with enough self-respect to ignore the stupid seniority structure. I have no more patience for elected representatives who feel it's their God-given right to rule over their peers in the legislature, and intimidate them into abandoning their constituents. If we can't have term limits then a healthy dose of disrespect for long-time incumbents is the next best thing.

Posted by: GalosGann at October 01, 2013 01:01 PM (vW1n3)

298 Ever heard of Reagan Democrats? Pick up a book sometime, fucktard.

--

Yeah, and after 8 years of CommieBama, there might be a good chance for a wave of Cruz Democrats.  Why be such an a-hole? 

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 01, 2013 01:03 PM (XB5Ak)

299 I'll say it for everyone the fuckers like Trent Lott can kiss my ass their the reason the GOP is sunk!

Posted by: 4th Horseman of the Apocalypse ( Yes I Have Arrived) at October 01, 2013 01:04 PM (4Na4A)

300 299 Hey packsoldier, stop lying about what Reagan did and didn't do. He DID defeat back stabbing RINO pussies like yourself in 1980 who managed to derail his campaign in 1976. Your crew, comprised of the Gerald Fords, George Bushs, Howard Bakers and the Bob Doles of world HATED Reagan with a PASSION! Your type of bottom feeding filth stood aghast when Reagan walked out at Reykjavik and told Gorbachev and the Soviet to "...tear down this wall"! A little bitch like yourself assuredly wet your pants when Newt stood up to Clinton and managed to force that philandering POS to finally sign onto to welfare reform (after vetoing the bill 3 times...I'm sure you were begging Newt to quit, I mean with the poor optics and all). If you want to go through life scared and defenseless, that's fine with me. Just get the hell out of our way!

Posted by: WVinMN at October 01, 2013 01:08 PM (4Pleu)

301

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 01, 2013 04:45 PM (aDwsi)

 

People who have a talent for making organizations run efficiently are either in positions with large corporations or running their own businesses.  Either way, they are making a lot more than a congressman makes.

 

Unless someone is totally driven by ego, getting them to give up their comfortable private life for open circus of politics is very hard.  At a minimum, the pay and perks should be reasonable to attract the talented.

 

Not only do they need a solid base pay, but they need an equal amount on the line in bonuses to give them an incentive to find ways to make the country run efficiently.  Right now, there isn't any reason to look for cost savings or to even try to reduce spending.

 

I would like to think that there are plenty of ultra-talented people ready to give up the comforts of their labors to work in the fishbowl of Washington for the good of America.  Sarah Palin was an example of what happens to people who are willing to do this.

 

What would it hurt to have well paid, incentivized people raising and spending out 2.5 trillion each year, instead of stumblefucks we ended up with in the current system?

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2013 01:09 PM (u2a4R)

302 It should be noted many "Reagan Democrats" were Republicans who re-registered after the Watergate clusterfuck. Once election time came they remembered why they were Republicans, thus why Ford almost came back down 30 points in the polls to beat Carter before his major gaffe cost him even w/ a double digit advantage in turnout for Democrats. Many of them eventually ended up becoming Republicans by the 90s. A good many are dying off. Thus why today's Democrat party is at it's most extreme since LBJ.

Posted by: The Former Moron, AuthorLMendez at October 01, 2013 01:10 PM (yAor6)

303 Sander Levin, D-Mich "How dare you bring up parks. What about the children?!" Exactly, Mr. Levin. Tell it to Harry Reid in the Senate, who just sent his Latina spokeswoman to tell the House to go eat shit. Where's the Budget? Pass the Budget, Senate.

Posted by: Love means never having to say you're sorry, or something at October 01, 2013 01:13 PM (MhA4j)

304 Palin and Cruz should start a new party. Who cares if it means short term election losses by splitting votes...even if we win now, we still lose since the GOP grows government and liberalism anyway. Let us not forget about Amnesty as well which Paul Ryan and others are working on as we speak.

Posted by: Dan at October 01, 2013 01:15 PM (m3gf3)

305 Pete DeFazio, D-OR: "So what about the national parks? What about the EPA?!! It's a faux government shut-down." /FAUX?

Posted by: Love means never having to say you're sorry, or something at October 01, 2013 01:16 PM (MhA4j)

306 Gads, Pelosi and her "The Senate DID pass your number...."

Posted by: Love means never having to say you're sorry, or something at October 01, 2013 01:18 PM (MhA4j)

307 We cannot endure a government which is so determined to rule against the wishes of the people. ********************* And the Republicans know it, which is why they're busy working "behind the scenes" right this moment to pass amnesty bills. Can't control the people? Then just bring in millions of new people, who are more easily controlled.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at October 01, 2013 01:22 PM (/sohm)

308 "Money matters.Among the people who would make excellent, responsible congressmen and senators, $175K wouldn'tstart to pay their normal living expenses. Add in the cost of maintaining two residences and finding the right people becomes a joke." Why on earth do they need to maintain two residences? It's a part-time job. They should be in DC for the session, and then go back home to their other job in the place they allegedly represent. Encouraging people spend the bulk of their lives in DC is one of the worst things we could do. I want an elected office to be as difficult and exhausting as possible. I want a bright, ambitious person to come to DC full of piss and vinegar. I want him to jump in, do his job, and carry out the will of his constituents. And then I after a term or two, I want him to leave. I want him to stagger, exhausted, back to private life, where he can channel that ambition and experience into doing something productive.

Posted by: GalosGann at October 01, 2013 01:24 PM (vW1n3)

309 H-1B Obamacare Illinois Bombshell

http://tinyurl.com/lv4eb25

They hired all those folks who read to you from the manual when you called about your computer or your phone?

Posted by: knowledge is power at October 01, 2013 01:28 PM (Nx76m)

310 "314 "Money matters.Among the people who would make excellent, responsible congressmen and senators, $175K wouldn'tstart to pay their normal living expenses. Add in the cost of maintaining two residences and finding the right people becomes a joke."

Why on earth do they need to maintain two residences? It's a part-time job. They should be in DC for the session, and then go back home to their other job in the place they allegedly represent. Encouraging people spend the bulk of their lives in DC is one of the worst things we could do.

I want an elected office to be as difficult and exhausting as possible. I want a bright, ambitious person to come to DC full of piss and vinegar. I want him to jump in, do his job, and carry out the will of his constituents. And then I after a term or two, I want him to leave. I want him to stagger, exhausted, back to private life, where he can channel that ambition and experience into doing something productive.

Posted by: GalosGann at October 01, 2013 05:24 PM (vW1n3)"



Simple solution.  Make air conditioning illegal in DC.



If that is not effective enough, allow ranchers who's livestock is being eaten  by endangered species like wolves or bears to trap those predators and then transport them to DC where they will be reintroduced to the environment.



Remember, gun ownership is severely restricted in DC and it is against the law to kill those endangered species anyway.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 01, 2013 01:38 PM (31Nrp)

311

As much as I would like to see that, my idea would work better.

I'm fond of the carrot and stick approach. Shove a carrot up the non performing politician's ass, then beat him to death with a stick.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 01, 2013 01:46 PM (0IhFx)

312
The carrot, I should note, is completely optional, though Moochelle would approve, as long as it's organic!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 01, 2013 01:47 PM (0IhFx)

313

>>Posted by: packsoldier at October 01, 2013 04:28 PM (r2lch)

 

 

 

 

And as President, Reagan had no control or influence over the RNC and GOP hierarchy and couldn't have cleaned out and replaced the party infrastructure with actual conservatives?

The fact of his popularity and political skills in winning couldn't have translated into actual Republican political/party reform once he WAS elected?

But Reagan wasn't that kind of reformist and didn't understand the long-term threat of the hidebound RINO Establishment. Too bad.

Oh, and fuck you.

Posted by: rrpjr at October 01, 2013 01:48 PM (c5/fE)

314 This is the same Lott that said during the Bush-Rove amnesty debacle that the Congress should write a bill that protestors can accept then put what they wanted into the bill during conference. He is two-faced back-stabbing umm  I forgot he is a typical establishment GOP politician   

Posted by: HW at October 01, 2013 01:55 PM (L8ekH)

315 I think the tea Party should re-brand itself as the Revolutionary Wing of the GOP.   Clearly identify with the original Constitution.  Adopt the tricorn hat and fly the Gadsden flag.

Posted by: Abbie Normal at October 01, 2013 02:06 PM (PXnNl)

316 Lott,

May I offer you a cup of shut the fuck up?

Posted by: Fuck You Lott at October 01, 2013 02:35 PM (NGBna)

317 Shit, I'm sorry I didn't see this while it was a live thread. When I last saw male cheerleader Lott, he was sucking Shakedown Jackson's and not-very-Sharpton's choads for being friends with Thurmond. I'm trying to figure out if yammering to Mother Jones is a step up or down.

Posted by: Captain Hate on his iPhone at October 01, 2013 03:22 PM (pYoMo)

318 I missed this too, may I offer my tardy, F*ck you Trent Motherf*cking Lott! What a no good c&cks%cking piece of sh*t! Another example of the lack of difference between the two parties. Except one pitches and the other catches. No good bastards.

Posted by: name at October 01, 2013 05:52 PM (KqnY1)

319 "These new guys don't care about making things work." This is like being happy that a car being driven toward a cliff at 80 mph is "working." Those darn guys who stopped the car, they don't care about making things work. We have a car to drive here. All their crazy talk about this so-called cliff, that's at list 200-300 yards off in the distance. No need for this craziness of stopping the car.

Posted by: Cloudbuster at October 02, 2013 03:21 AM (y5pTy)

320

It's time to kick the professionals out of politics -- at least the elective offices.

We cannot endure a government which is so determined to rule against the wishes of the people.

F*ckin' A right.

 

Posted by: Big Daddy B at October 02, 2013 03:24 AM (osx1V)

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