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August 10, 2013

Second Battle of Guam - July 21 to August 10 1944
— Dave in Texas

Score: An American victory. At a terrible cost.

Almost 8000 American casualties, 1700 dead. And it wasn't over.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 05:50 PM | Comments (90)
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1 We ain't learned a damn thing.

Posted by: EROWMER at August 10, 2013 05:51 PM (OONaw)

2 Wading in from 100 yards out to sea under heavy fire. Hats off to them.

Posted by: fluffy at August 10, 2013 05:52 PM (z9HTb)

3 Guam . . . sometimes I say that just because it's so peculiar.

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 05:54 PM (8lmkt)

4 Is this why Guam will tip over?

Posted by: CDR M at August 10, 2013 05:58 PM (dKV5k)

5 Guam currently has a Republican governor, btw.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 10, 2013 06:00 PM (Vk2pI)

6 They brought it.

Posted by: t-bird at August 10, 2013 06:00 PM (FcR7P)

7 The assault planners had to be extra careful about evenly distributing the landing craft around the island's perimeter.

Guam was one of the few American actions that mandated a 360 degree distribution of forces around the island.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 10, 2013 06:01 PM (di+Lf)

8 Thank you, Dave. We canÂ’t forget our history or we are doomed to repeat it. it is a shame that some people donÂ’t know our history, like SCOAMT.

Posted by: CarolT at August 10, 2013 06:02 PM (z4WKX)

9 3 Guam . . . sometimes I say that just because it's so peculiar.

If they imported some bats, they could start a major industry. I could really see a future for exotic Guam guano.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 10, 2013 06:03 PM (U82Km)

10 The important thing was that the Japanese learn a damn thing

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 10, 2013 06:03 PM (gWOtP)

11 it is a shame that some people donÂ’t know our history, like SCOAMT.

Posted by: CarolT at August 10, 2013 10:02 PM (z4WKX)

To be fair, CarolT, it's not like it's his history. He has nothing in common with actual Americans.

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 06:04 PM (8lmkt)

12 Now, Hello Kitty and sushi.

Posted by: eman at August 10, 2013 06:04 PM (AO9UG)

13 Well, I can't stay awake for the ONT. There has been an interesting discussion over at Neo-Neocon tonight. It started with General Sherman and took off from there. I'm going to bed, but I think it's still pretty active. http://neoneocon.com/2013/08/10/sherman-on-kinder-gentler-war/

Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2013 06:05 PM (sdi6R)

14 THE BALLS ON THESE GUYS

Posted by: toby928© at August 10, 2013 06:05 PM (QupBk)

15 My Uncle was in the Army assault of Guam... He had a picture of a Japanese officer with his guts in his lap and his severed head on the ground . Now my oldest cousin has that sword.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at August 10, 2013 06:06 PM (MhA4j)

16 But Indonesia is a hell of a lot closer to Guam than we are. Were they not affected by WWII? Or were they as disinterested as Il Douche?

Posted by: t-bird at August 10, 2013 06:06 PM (FcR7P)

17 To be fair, CarolT, it's not like it's his history. He has nothing in common with actual Americans.
Posted by: Peaches
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That.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 10, 2013 06:07 PM (aDwsi)

18 The anti-tipping tech used then is still top secret.

Posted by: eman at August 10, 2013 06:07 PM (AO9UG)

19 t bird, indonesia was a dutch colony at the time which meant their overlords' homeland was under Axis occupation. If I recall correctly

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 10, 2013 06:08 PM (gWOtP)

20 Actually, Guam did tip over.

What we're seeing now was actually the underside of Guam back then. We landed, tipped it over, and said "done!".

Posted by: EC at August 10, 2013 06:09 PM (doBIb)

21 The anti-tipping tech used then is still top secret. I believe it was that plain old American sense of balance, and quick reaction.

Posted by: toby928© at August 10, 2013 06:09 PM (QupBk)

22 East Timor was Portuguese, officially neutral.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 10, 2013 06:09 PM (gWOtP)

23 This island feels kinda wobbly, Sarge. Stop your yappin', Kowalski!

Posted by: eman at August 10, 2013 06:09 PM (AO9UG)

24 WWII was a good war to be a neutral in. The Spanish and the Swiss made out pretty well.

Posted by: toby928© at August 10, 2013 06:10 PM (QupBk)

25 He had a picture of a Japanese officer with his guts in his lap and his severed head on the ground

Do I need to denounce myself because I wish you had posted a link to the pic?

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 06:10 PM (8lmkt)

26 Thanks. I'll be in the camps for that, not knowing more about Dear Reader's land.

Posted by: t-bird at August 10, 2013 06:10 PM (FcR7P)

27 Hmm. Post evaporated.

Anyhow, it is interesting that the first naval round that we see going in in (at ~11 seconds) appears to be phosphorus.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 10, 2013 06:10 PM (aDwsi)

28 THE BALLS ON THESE GUYS Posted by: toby928Â©
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Like basketballs.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 10, 2013 06:12 PM (aDwsi)

29 The Spanish didn't do THAT well. Franco's Spain was by all accounts a schlerotic dump. Better than the murderous leftist fanatics he stopped, admittedly.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 10, 2013 06:14 PM (gWOtP)

30 Guams yellow underside.... it's what's good for you...

Posted by: Yip at August 10, 2013 06:14 PM (/jHWN)

31 The Dutch East Indies (Indonesia) were occupied by the Japanese early in the war, and the Dutch who were there were interned, and badly ill-treated. A couple months ago, I went to the funeral of an elderly friend who was interned there as a youth with his parents.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2013 06:14 PM (60Q+L)

32 The fuckin' Japs were fuckin' animals in WWII. No two ways about it, they were the essence of evil.

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 06:16 PM (8lmkt)

33 Thanks AOP. I didn't know. How did the Japanese treat the locals? I know they were brutal to the Filipinos.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 10, 2013 06:16 PM (gWOtP)

34
"appears to be phosphorus"

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 10, 2013 10:10 PM (aDwsi)

Lovingly referred to as "Willie Peter".

Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 10, 2013 06:16 PM (pJF+c)

35 Peaches, we donÂ’t have to be fair to TFG! HeÂ’s trying to remove us, middle class people and make us dependent on government. He wants to ruin this country & is doing just fine because the republicans refuse to fight with him. Those fools have to stop listening to consultants! They think TFG is popular! HeÂ’s not, he has nothing but indifference for us. History will not be kind to him.

Posted by: CarolT at August 10, 2013 06:17 PM (z4WKX)

36 You know who else did spectacularly well in WWII? American industry. There was nothing more responsible for ushering in the golden age of the 50s and 60s than WWII. It was like we were looking at paradise and couldn't handle the glow and fucked it all up and now here we are, suckin' donkey bawls.

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 06:18 PM (8lmkt)

37 Spain in 1965 and 1967 was kind of a dump. Riding 'third class' on the trains was an experience.

Steak pan-fried in olive oil was good, though.

Rota rules..........

Posted by: I am that old at August 10, 2013 06:19 PM (omBWL)

38 The Dutch East Indies (Indonesia) were occupied by the Japanese early in the war, and the Dutch who were there were interned, and badly ill-treated. A couple months ago, I went to the funeral of an elderly friend who was interned there as a youth with his parents.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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And it wasn't pretty:
"The United Nations report stated that four million people died in Indonesia as a result of famine and forced labor during the Japanese occupation, including 30,000 European civilian internee deaths." But, you know, it was wrong to use the Bomb.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 10, 2013 06:19 PM (aDwsi)

39 Four MILLION? Jesus

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 10, 2013 06:20 PM (gWOtP)

40 Lovingly referred to as "Willie Peter".

Posted by: Doctor Fish
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By the senders.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 10, 2013 06:21 PM (aDwsi)

41 The fuckin' Japs were fuckin' animals in WWII. No two ways about it, they were the essence of evil. Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 10:16 PM Just commenting today to a co-worker that the Japanese continue to get physically less impressive with every generation. Most of the best DNA died in that war and now it's only a matter of time until they are down to too few male specimens of note.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at August 10, 2013 06:21 PM (MhA4j)

42 Four MILLION? Jesus Posted by: boulder toilet hobo
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They were the most ruthless motherf*ckers that ever walked the earth.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 10, 2013 06:22 PM (aDwsi)

43 Four MILLION? Jesus

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 10, 2013 10:20 PM (gWOtP)

yeah

They were the most ruthless motherf*ckers that ever walked the earth.

yeah

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 06:23 PM (8lmkt)

44
Just commenting today to a co-worker that the Japanese continue to get physically less impressive with every generation. Most of the best DNA died in that war and now it's only a matter of time until they are down to too few male specimens of note.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at August 10, 2013 10:21 PM (MhA4j)

True.

At one time, the Japanese were the most feared nation in the east, steam rolling everyone in their path.

Now?

This...

http://youtu.be/ZjAXJaFydwM

Posted by: EC at August 10, 2013 06:24 PM (doBIb)

45 Out, Biden! Out, damned Biden sock!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 10, 2013 06:24 PM (aDwsi)

46 Out, Biden! Out, damned Biden sock!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 10, 2013 10:24 PM (aDwsi)

I didn't want to say anything but, trust me, I was tempted . . .

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 06:25 PM (8lmkt)

47 Instead of fighting for it, we should have towed Guam to a remote location and starved out the Japanese.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2013 06:25 PM (Z2yIy)

48 The National Assessment of Educational Progress exams in civics, U.S. history, and geography have been indefinitely postponed for fourth and twelfth graders. The Obama administration says this is due to a $6.8 million sequestration budget cut. The three exams will be replaced by a single, new test: Technology and Engineering Literacy.

Â“Without these tests, advocates for a richer civic education will not have any kind of test to use as leverage to get more civic education in the classrooms,Â” said John Hale, associate director at the Center for Civic Education.

http://tinyurl.com/mg7rktf National Review via Instapundit)

I just thought this was relevant based on some of the comments on this thread. "History? That old school."

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 10, 2013 06:25 PM (cHZB7)

49 What Difference Does It Make? - Hillary

Posted by: Craig Poe at August 10, 2013 06:25 PM (BVkEs)

50 They were evil and determined to win,but thank God for the Bombs. It saved Japan from itself.

Posted by: CarolT at August 10, 2013 06:25 PM (z4WKX)

51 Peaches - It was sticky...., and smelled bad.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 10, 2013 06:25 PM (aDwsi)

52 There has been an interesting discussion over at Neo-Neocon tonight. I can't believe someone is actually arguing that destroying the productive enterprises of a hostile country doesn't contribute to strategic victory. Meh.

Posted by: toby928© at August 10, 2013 06:26 PM (QupBk)

53 True. At one time, the Japanese were the most feared nation in the east, steam rolling everyone in their path. Now? This... http://youtu.be/ZjAXJaFydwM Posted by: EC at August 10, 2013 10:24 PM (doBIb) Even we think that is gayÂ…

Posted by: The Village People at August 10, 2013 06:26 PM (Vk2pI)

54 Lovingly referred to as "Willie Peter".

Posted by: Doctor Fish
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By the senders.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 10, 2013 10:21 PM (aDwsi)

Correct Joe, and pickling off a load of WP required big boy panties and a pair of swinging balls so that eliminates you because the results would hurt your feelings. Bitch.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at August 10, 2013 06:27 PM (pJF+c)

55 48 - Are you f*cking kidding me?! The Ministry of Truth marches on.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 10, 2013 06:27 PM (aDwsi)

56 Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy Hah! I finally noticed your nic. What are they breeding for in Japan? From what I see in CA, it seems to be a decidedly non-physical culture. Like their men want to grow up to be boys.

Posted by: t-bird at August 10, 2013 06:27 PM (FcR7P)

57 Even we think that is gayÂ…

Posted by: The Village People at August 10, 2013 10:26 PM (Vk2pI)

Seaman ship! Seaman ship! For love!

lol

Posted by: EC at August 10, 2013 06:28 PM (doBIb)

58 Peaches - It was sticky...., and smelled bad.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 10, 2013 10:25 PM (aDwsi)

I wasn't going to be that nice but, sure, that.

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 06:29 PM (8lmkt)

59 The National Assessment of Educational Progress exams in civics, U.S. history, and geography have been indefinitely postponed for fourth and twelfth graders. The Obama administration says this is due to a $6.8 million ~~sequestration~~ vacation budget ~~cut~~.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 10, 2013 06:29 PM (aDwsi)

60 Peaches, Have you talked to Tammy? Where did they move to? I asked you during one ONT this week and then I fell asleep if you answered. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at August 10, 2013 06:31 PM (z4WKX)

61 What are they breeding for in Japan?

I live in SoCal and I'm pretty sure they are breeding for American genes. Srsly, you almost cannot walk down the street or go to Costco or Target without seeing American men with Japanese wives/girlfriends. Granted, these are not stalwart, conservative American men, they are libtards. But their children will never look like them and forget about blond!

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 06:31 PM (8lmkt)

62 Have you talked to Tammy? Where did they move to? I asked you during one ONT this week and then I fell asleep if you answered.
Carol

I emailed her the other night that the horde sends love. She's busy, she'll get back when she is up to it. Meanwhile, please keep her on your prayer list. She's a tough cookie, but this is not an easy thing for her.

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 06:33 PM (8lmkt)

63 The ginger gene is apparently disappearing. I have a supply for those women who are interested.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 10, 2013 06:34 PM (aDwsi)

64 Peaches you are hysterical. IÂ’m laughing at that one!

Posted by: CarolT at August 10, 2013 06:35 PM (z4WKX)

65 Peaches, of course IÂ’ll keep Tammy on the prayer list. Where did they move to? Carol

Posted by: CarolT at August 10, 2013 06:36 PM (z4WKX)

66 From the greater Asian co prosperity sphere to the Village People. Only at the HQ.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 10, 2013 06:37 PM (gWOtP)

67 They were the most ruthless motherf*ckers that ever walked the earth.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 10, 2013 10:22 PM (aDwsi)

_________________

Hmmmmmm...... interesting

Posted by: The Huns at August 10, 2013 06:37 PM (jucos)

68 The ginger gene is apparently disappearing. I have a supply for those women who are interested.

This is why there are no better men than those of the horde . . . givers, to the last drop! It's always amazed me, though, how the gingers are quite disproportionately represented here on the HQ.

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 06:39 PM (8lmkt)

69 Bitch. Please.

Posted by: Temujin at August 10, 2013 06:40 PM (gWOtP)

70 Bitch. Please.

plus, the impeccable manners . . .

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 06:40 PM (8lmkt)

71 From the invasion of China in 1937 to the end of World War II, the Japanese military regime murdered near 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most probably almost 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war. This democide was due to a morally bankrupt political and military strategy, military expediency and custom, and national culture (such as the view that those enemy soldiers who surrender while still able to resist were criminals).

Ref : http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP3.HTM

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 10, 2013 06:43 PM (aDwsi)

72 2 Wading in from 100 yards out to sea under heavy fire. Hats off to them. Posted by: fluffy at August 10, 2013 09:52 PM (z9HTb) My bet? Land crafts got hung up on coral, or the stupid tide charts were wrong, which happened all the time.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 10, 2013 06:43 PM (wR+pz)

73 This is why there are no better men than those of the horde . . . givers, to the last drop! It's always amazed me, though, how the gingers are quite disproportionately represented here on the HQ.
Posted by: Peaches
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True..., all very true.
I will concede that that 'Better dead than red' thing has bothered me over the years.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 10, 2013 06:44 PM (aDwsi)

74 Mike Hammer, thanks for link. IÂ’m watching Ray Donovan. IÂ’ll look at it when this is over.

Posted by: CarolT at August 10, 2013 06:45 PM (z4WKX)

75 The real measure of an army is how they fight against armed men...and how they treat the defenseless.

I'll take the ferociousness of the American Army any day over the Japanese, and the kindness of the same men shown towards the civilians.

It's easy to bayonet a child. Not so easy to save him.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2013 06:45 PM (gqgiP)

76 Hai Peaches

You've googled "Temujin" I trust?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 10, 2013 06:46 PM (gWOtP)

77 My bet? Land crafts got hung up on coral, or the stupid tide charts were wrong, which happened all the time. Posted by: Billy Bob
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Lots of guys stepped in holes, or off landing ramps, and just sank to the bottom.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 10, 2013 06:46 PM (aDwsi)

78 Enter the Ginger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUD9NBSJvqo

Posted by: toby928© at August 10, 2013 06:46 PM (QupBk)

79 ONT's up. Please shuffle over and alleviate the boredom. Pretty please????

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 06:47 PM (8lmkt)

80 I watched the color of war on the military channel this afternoon. Damn the Germans were a hard group to beat.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at August 10, 2013 06:47 PM (wR+pz)

81 You've googled "Temujin" I trust?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 10, 2013 10:46 PM (gWOtP)

Posted by: Peaches at August 10, 2013 06:47 PM (8lmkt)

82 CBD: The European code of chivalry had a large part in it. The western warrior code from the High Middle Ages on doesn't support the killing of peasants. It views peasants as people with a job to do, not as one with the enemy. This extends to Jews too. It wasn't the Pope who slaughtered the Rhinelanders, it was idiots in the Rhineland. There is no honour in killing Schlomo Weinstein. The Japanese Military in the 1930s and 40s had forgotten that code.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 10, 2013 06:55 PM (gWOtP)

83 Dave,

That footage is excellent! We were just on the army ducks at the Wisconsin Dells, and it's really cool to see them in action. God, those guys had brass balls! Five mph in the water, it must have seemed like forever till they jumped out and waded to the shore.

Posted by: Name at August 10, 2013 08:10 PM (GU2mo)

I've read that the first jetty built in Apra harbor in Guam, just after VJ Day, had as its foundation brand-new deuce-and-a-half trucks packed with bags of cement - driven on top of each other until they formed the spine/base of a jetty.

If you were supply personnel on Guam, you'd probably face a very delayed return to the States when the war ended, as it was one of the sites of the unimaginably huge stockpiles being assembled to support Operations Olympic and Coronet, and the subsequent occupation. The other main site, the Philippines, had a population of some size and an economy of sorts, and was able to easily absorb most of the surplus (jeepneys driven their today are I believe made from surplus jeeps). But in Guam? Really nothing to do other than ship it back to the US (months/years), or get rid of it.

As to Japanese occupation behavior, I think it varied quite a bit - though the best it got was, uh, not very good. Someone asked about Indonesia. I know the Dutch internees had it rough. In Bali, in 1993, I had a scuba divemaster who refused to lead groups of Japanese divers. Not because of the divers - thanks to conformity, competence, and top-notch gear they usually are a dream to lead - but because his father had been very mistreated by the Japanese, had spent time in a sort of labor camp, etc. So there you go.

Don't think Guam saw too many problems with hydrographic errors, tide-tables, and landing craft/amtraks stranded on fringing reefs far from shore (though I could be wrong). That infamously occurred at Betio/Tarawa, but I think Guam was different and that our operations had advanced considerably by then.

One under-appreciated aspect of WWII was the truly astonishing pace and scale of advance in technology and technique that occurred in just 4 fucking years. Doubt there has been anything else like it in human history. And it all was built on the unbelievably thorough exploitation of all the best unique elements of America.

In August 1945, in the western Pacific, some task group cruised the waters, its air defense featuring radar and directed by guys recruited from Wall Street trading firms (good at quick decisions based on lots of fast-changing info), its AAA using proximity-fuzing, its battlewagon main batteries using the most advanced electro-mechanical computers ever devised, while 30,000+ feet above, a pressurized heavy bomber carried a nuclear weapon towards Japan - a bomb invented and built in an era when leather, cotton, wood, simple steel, and plaster were the most common materials used in construction and manufacturing. In an economy reckoned to be just about 70% mobilized for the war. It is no exaggeration to say the US (aside from politically) was just warmed up by the time it vaporized the Axis (yes yes the Soviets bled the Nazis white but even that might not have happened without our largesse).

Even the few today who don't qualify as historical/strategic/economic illiterates, or simpletons, have trouble grasping the awesomeness of the US in WWII, methinks.

Posted by: non-purist at August 10, 2013 08:13 PM (afQnV)

Oh, that divemaster in Bali was Balinese, not Dutch, and I think his father had his bad experiences with the Japanese on Java, not Bali. Somehow I seem to recall that the Japanese did not mess much with Bali, which would make sense. Gentle culture, agricultural economy, no oil - which is main reason Japan needed Java and other islands.

Posted by: non-purist at August 10, 2013 08:17 PM (afQnV)

86 off topic, yet not: I just finished reading the essay Thank God for the Atom Bomb that you guys posted a few days ago. I hadn't seen it before and am so glad you posted it. My grandpa was one of the guys headed for Japan when the bombs were dropped, so I already knew that the bomb had saved his life, but I had not considered how relieved the thousands and thousands of soldiers who had been fighting for years in Europe and throughout the Pacific would be to not have to continue fighting and probably die. Thank you.

Posted by: Mrs Ward at August 11, 2013 04:45 AM (zD055)

87 As a just-commissioned (Feb. 29, 1944) junior ensign, my late father commanded a landing craft from an "amphibious attack transport" (i.e., an armed troopship), the USS Zeilin (APA-3), landing Marines under fire in the Second Battle of Guam. I won't try to reprint his recount of the battle here, and in fact I could only get him to tell the story twice (once, to me, in 1974, and one more time, in 2007, to my four kids). Suffice it to say: The fighting was brutal. The closest approximation he'd ever seen, he said, was Hollywood's depiction of the D-Day landings at Normandy in the beginning minutes of "Saving Private Ryan."

Posted by: Beldar at August 11, 2013 08:00 AM (VIkXN)

88 A little off topic. My dad was stationed twice on Guam in the 70's. I think my brother and his friends found nearly all the bullet shells from that battle! He had at least 10 moving boxes full of them when we were packing out...they wouldn't let him take them, he had to pick just a handful. He also found a live WWII bomb, my dad called the naval magazine and they came out and detonated it. We used to play at a place called the tank farm near Nimitz Hill...tanks left over from WWII. Guam was a kid's paradise in the 70's!

Posted by: Sarah at August 11, 2013 11:50 AM (f19Uh)

89 I saw a photo online a few years ago of a couple of American soldiers and a pair of Filipino guerrillas. Our boys were in the usual fatigues, with bandoliers of ammo strapped across their chests, carrying their guns with the easy grace of long use.

The Filipinos were about six inches shorter, barefoot, also criss-crossed with ammo belts, packing heat, shirtless.

But what caught my eye was the collection of JAPANESE JAWBONES each Filipino had dangling from his belt. They would kill one, cut out his jaw, strip off the flesh to clean it, and carry it as a war trophy.

They don't fuck around, those boys.

Posted by: Beverly at August 11, 2013 09:37 PM (S3SIe)

90 From that site: USA had 1,747 people killed and 6,053 wounded and Japan had over 18, 040 people killed and 485 POW (Prisoners of war) USA had 36,000 men prepared for battle and Japan had only 22,000 men ready And the AMERICANS are complaining about terrible cost? 5% dead as opposed to 80%? Stop whining!

Posted by: corey nader at August 12, 2013 11:16 AM (iWqAg)

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