December 03, 2013

Security Expert: No Security Built Into Obamcare; Flaws Are Big Enough to Permit Hackers to Use Healthcare.gov to Hack Users' Computers; Could Take a Year to Fix Even Just the High-Priority Flaws
— Ace

Good God. Video at the link, and it's worth watching.

"We're talking multiple months to over a year to at least address some of the critical-to-high exposures on the website itself."

And that's just to fix the big holes in security, nevermind closing the smaller exploits.

This expert's advice? If you like your identity, you should keep your identity off Healthcare.gov. Period.

“They said they implemented over 400 bug fixes,” he said. “When you recode the application to fix these 400 bugs—they were rushing this out of the door to get the site at least so it can work a little bit—you’re introducing more security flaws as you go along with it because you don’t even check that code.”

“I’m a little bit more skeptical now, and I would still definitely advise individuals to not use the website because it’s definitely something that I don’t believe is secure and neither did the four individuals that testified in front of Congress,” Kennedy said. “I think there’s some major security concerns there around privacy and information, and they haven’t even come close to being addressed, and won’t be in the short term.”

It gets worse, actually. The expert (a white-hat hacker) notes that the federal government is not required to inform users when their security has been compromised.


“States are required to notify in the event of a breach, the federal government is not,” he added. “So in the event that Healthcare.gov gets compromised and all their information gets taken out of it they don’t have to notify anybody.”

I think we can safely predict that Obama will hide this information from the victims of his site, as he's hidden all information from "Obamacare's losers" already.

Legislation Required: The bills floating around Congress should remedy this defect and include a command that victims of security breaches be alerted, and the public generally apprised of how many breaches occur.

And throw in a criminal penalty for responsible officials should they choose to conceal such breaches.


Posted by: Ace at 11:46 AM | Comments (353)
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1 Foist?

Posted by: Heywood Jablowme at December 03, 2013 11:47 AM (jsWA8)

2 I coulda bin a contenda...

Posted by: Mallfly at December 03, 2013 11:47 AM (bJm7W)

3 Bam, Third time is the charm.  Where are my Ampersands???

Posted by: Heywood Jablowme at December 03, 2013 11:47 AM (jsWA8)

4 The Pope said the website was fine, don't worry.

Posted by: The MSM, Now With 20% More Truthiness at December 03, 2013 11:47 AM (8ZskC)

5 Love it! Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of Democrats. And oh yeah. First! Maybe.

Posted by: Detroit at December 03, 2013 11:48 AM (bb5+k)

6 I trust Pixy with my personal info before I'd ever trust Obamacare. That's why I feel safe posting under my real name here.

Posted by: mugiwara at December 03, 2013 11:48 AM (W7ffl)

7 so look, what's the problem? If hackers were soooo smart, wouldn't we have Obama's school transcripts by now?

Posted by: Mallfly at December 03, 2013 11:48 AM (bJm7W)

8 Security expert - know your place!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 03, 2013 11:49 AM (7ObY1)

9 News Flash:  Programmers Dog-fooded.

Posted by: FYNQ at December 03, 2013 11:49 AM (TM1p8)

10 All of those Democrats who rushed to sign up for this are certainly deserving of any and all misery it will cause them. Hopefully this thing will harvest a disproportionate quantity of Democrat activists.

Posted by: Detroit at December 03, 2013 11:49 AM (bb5+k)

11 Great. I created an account there early on. I never was able to get through to look at actual plans.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 03, 2013 11:50 AM (GEICT)

12 Go ahead.  Type in your DOB and SSN.  Trust us.

Posted by: Kathleen Sebelius at December 03, 2013 11:50 AM (8ZskC)

13 Criminal background checks are just a tool of White Privilege!

Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 03, 2013 11:51 AM (ZPrif)

14 Great.

I created an account there early on. I never was able to get through to look at actual plans.


*finishes Christmas shopping online with BCochran's info*



Posted by: EC at December 03, 2013 11:51 AM (GQ8sn)

15 Oh well, off to Hobby Lobby to buy some hate gifts for Hate Christmas. Wish we had a Chik-fil-a nearby so I could have some Hate Chicken while on my shopping trip.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 03, 2013 11:51 AM (7ObY1)

16 EdSnowden offered to help. Not kidding

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 11:51 AM (zOTsN)

17 Back in the drawer damned sock!

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 03, 2013 11:51 AM (bb5+k)

18 Great.

I created an account there early on. I never was able to get through to look at actual plans.

I've seen your plans.  Trust me, they suck.

Posted by: Some Hacker in Lithuania at December 03, 2013 11:51 AM (8ZskC)

19 *finishes Christmas shopping online with BCochran's info*

You too?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 03, 2013 11:52 AM (YEelc)

20 I'm less worried about identity-thief-hackers stealing my identity than I am about the Obama Administration's lackeys abusing my identity-data which I gave them willingly.

Posted by: zombie at December 03, 2013 11:52 AM (+cx5n)

21 *finishes Christmas shopping online with BCochran's info* Posted by: EC at December 03, 2013 03:51 PM (GQ8sn) Be sure to get your wife something nice. And by nice I mean really slutty.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 03, 2013 11:52 AM (GEICT)

22 I'm not sure people being forced onto Medicaid have much to steal.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 03, 2013 11:52 AM (xlX1p)

23 Obamacare automatically signs you up for LifeLock so don't worry about it.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 03, 2013 11:52 AM (+lsX1)

24 This is not a bug, it is a feature, it helps with direct wealth redistribution!! H8ters gonna h8!!1!!

Posted by: Penfold at December 03, 2013 11:52 AM (Fbt5B)

25 i'm not skeered about hackers, i have Nothing to hide!
and no money to steal.

and small price to pay for the most precious of legislation to ever reach our country.

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 11:52 AM (nqBYe)

26 Yeah, I'm going to take the uninsured tax penalty.

Posted by: Shoot Me at December 03, 2013 11:52 AM (qiXMt)

27 And when this issue was brought up to my Liberal Brother??? He said "Just buy Life Lock first'... So, he wants us to buy Identity insurance, so we can buy Health Insurance, that the Government forces us to buy.... /facepalm...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 11:52 AM (lZBBB)

28 Because an identity thief can just steal your money; the government can steal your entire existence.

Posted by: zombie at December 03, 2013 11:52 AM (+cx5n)

29 “So in the event that Healthcare.gov gets compromised and all their information gets taken out of it they don’t have to notify anybody.”


That needs to be changed.  Like last month.


Posted by: EC at December 03, 2013 11:53 AM (GQ8sn)

30 so do they ask what political party one hails from?

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 11:53 AM (nqBYe)

31 The expert (a white-hat hacker)

This has to be racist somehow.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 03, 2013 11:53 AM (/kI1Q)

32 They're making a list They're checking it twice They're gonna find out who's naughty or nice IRS is coming, bow down!

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 11:53 AM (zOTsN)

33 So, he wants us to buy Identity insurance, so we can buy Health Insurance, that the Government forces us to buy....


Tax.
Tax.
Tax, tax, tax.

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts, Still Growing In Office at December 03, 2013 11:53 AM (8ZskC)

34 My cousin Yuri just loves this healthcare.gov site. He uses it to buy all of his discount medications, firearms, and mail-order Thai brides.

Posted by: Komissar Vladimir at December 03, 2013 11:53 AM (sBegS)

35 Well, ya gotta admit--we're getting much more of a fucking than we paid for.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at December 03, 2013 11:53 AM (9hVHZ)

36 so do they ask what political party one hails from?


Right after the gun ownership questions.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 03, 2013 11:54 AM (8ZskC)

37 zombie, the u.s govt would never use their agencies to harm one hair on our collective heads.

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 11:54 AM (nqBYe)

38 Be sure to get your wife something nice. And by nice I mean really slutty.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 03, 2013 03:52 PM (GEICT)



Already did!



Posted by: EC at December 03, 2013 11:54 AM (GQ8sn)

39 I'm not sure people being forced onto Medicaid have much to steal.

Might still have a credit card they were saving for emergencies.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 03, 2013 11:54 AM (/kI1Q)

40 cicero,  so they really do ask that?

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 11:55 AM (nqBYe)

41 Financial Hari kari is all that is required

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 11:55 AM (zOTsN)

42 There is NO truth to the rumor that we had anything to do with designing this thing. 

Posted by: Life Lock at December 03, 2013 11:55 AM (TOk1P)

43 You really have to design for security from the start of the project. If you try to glue on security features after rollout, you won't be as secure as if you did it right in the first place.

Posted by: gp at December 03, 2013 11:55 AM (mk9aG)

44 thunderb, you made  me laugh!

not fair i'm in a very depressed mood and you shouldn't  mess with my misery.

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 11:56 AM (nqBYe)

45 Oh well, off to Hobby Lobby to buy some hate gifts for Hate Christmas.

Wasn't Hobby Lobby the place that refused to serve Jooooos or something?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 03, 2013 11:56 AM (B/VB5)

46 "I just wanted free healthcare and now my computer got hacked and is remotely controlled as a server for child-porn downloads and OFA donor lists!"

Posted by: zombie at December 03, 2013 11:56 AM (+cx5n)

47 Criminal background checks are just a tool of White Privilege!
-
Some state, Illinois I believe, outlawed asking job applicants whether they've ever been convicted of a felony because, you know, you kill a few people and right away no one wants to hire you.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 03, 2013 11:57 AM (Hx5uv)

48 *drag, drag...thump* Drug this in from the last thread. Perhaps we should "raise awareness" about this security problem. “raise awareness" My newest pet peeve. Raising awareness means, "I want something done about something but I won't do shit. I will tell everyone else in hopes that some other sucker will actually do something. In the meantime I will be satisfied because I raised awareness".

Posted by: Meremortal at December 03, 2013 11:57 AM (1Y+hH)

49 Security, who needs any security

Posted by: Neville obama at December 03, 2013 11:57 AM (t3UFN)

50 What a hot mess this is, and you've got obama trying to re-sell this thing all over the Country on our dime... Disgusting...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at December 03, 2013 11:57 AM (9+ccr)

51 I'm not sure people being forced onto Medicaid have much to steal.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 03, 2013 03:52 PM (xlX1p)

 

They make great victims.  By the time the cops believe them, you have an extra 2 weeks headstart. 

Posted by: deluded at December 03, 2013 11:57 AM (D+lxs)

52 >>I'm not sure people being forced onto Medicaid have much to steal. Even the poorest US citizen has something that is extremely valuable to an illegal alien.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 11:57 AM (g1DWB)

53 And when this issue was brought up to my Liberal Brother??? He said "Just buy Life Lock first'... So, he wants us to buy Identity insurance, so we can buy Health Insurance, that the Government forces us to buy.... So? Sign up lib brother sans lifelock. When he becomes an unperson due to identity theft, point, TOLD. YOU. FUCKING. SO. Laugh.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2013 11:57 AM (xZxMD)

54 President Choad Load makes it all better. My last day in the hospital is December 22nd. Suck it, suckers.

For the rest of you, my cash/barter practice will be open January 2nd... and you get my cell number for 24-hour care... priced for the real person not some Reggie Love swallowing exec....

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 03, 2013 11:57 AM (vHRtU)

55

I signed up and now some tranny in Thailand is now got my Amazon Prime account

 

 

Posted by: Fred Q. at December 03, 2013 11:57 AM (W6iIX)

56 SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 11:57 AM (t3UFN)

57 If you like your identity, you can keep your identity.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at December 03, 2013 11:58 AM (6RwsK)

58 You don't steal money You steal identity to apply for new cards We had a baby sitter steal hubbies ID She ran up over 10k, at a gas station in Brooklyn They had to be in on it She also went on a shopping spree with her family 26 k You don't have to have money, just a desirable credit rating

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 11:58 AM (zOTsN)

59 It's always worse than we think.

Posted by: Null at December 03, 2013 11:58 AM (P7hip)

60 You really have to design for security from the start of the project. If you try to glue on security features after rollout, you won't be as secure as if you did it right in the first place.



Doing it right wasn't part of the fucking plan.



Posted by: EC at December 03, 2013 11:58 AM (GQ8sn)

61 If you like your identity, you can keep your identity. Posted by: John the Libertarian at December 03, 2013 03:58 PM (6RwsK) Sure, but your credit score is going to shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 11:59 AM (t3UFN)

62

(Third person to mention Lifelock in under 50 comments)

 

*Slinks away in shame...*

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2013 11:59 AM (TOk1P)

63

So, he wants us to buy Identity insurance, so we can buy Health Insurance, that the Government forces us to buy....

 

Can someone aask Chief Justice John Roberts if LifeLock is a tax or a fine?

 

 



 

Posted by: Fred Q. at December 03, 2013 11:59 AM (W6iIX)

64 This is starting to look very planned.  Obama is stalling Obamacare until after the 2014 elections.  He'll blame the web site and not his plan.


And another thing,  what happens to people with fluctuating incomes?  The self-employeed.  This month you qualify for a government subsidy,  then next month you don't.  This year you do,  next year you don't.  Fucking nightmare.

Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2013 11:59 AM (YWXTN)

65 Expect Audit

Posted by: Tragic 8 Ball at December 03, 2013 11:59 AM (6ahup)

66 The part where it automatically sends all your information to OFA and automatically generates a pre-filled voter registration application is working perfectly, however.

Like, almost, that was the intent.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 03, 2013 11:59 AM (VjL9S)

67 walrusrex, why shouldn't a serial rapist work at victorias secret?

or a child predator work at a child care facility?

they served their time .

and that's actually the issue if we think about it.
(i don't have the answer to this, tg-d i'm not an atty)


Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 11:59 AM (nqBYe)

68 Has anyone speculated that the lack of security was intended?

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at December 03, 2013 11:59 AM (oDCMR)

69 In Soviet Amerikka, Government fucks you!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 03, 2013 12:00 PM (wtvvX)

70 Of course it was intended. The non-partisan wrecking ball strikes again.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at December 03, 2013 12:00 PM (6RwsK)

71 That's a feature, not a bug, glitch, design flaw, whateverthey'recallingit.

Posted by: Obamacare Navigators - Enroll America, ACORN, La Raza, Planned Parenthood at December 03, 2013 12:00 PM (JRmiD)

72 [

I think we can safely predict that Obama will hide this information from the victims of his site, as he's hidden all information from "Obamacare's losers" already.[/i]

 

 

Did he mention it at the presser he just had?

 

No?

 

Then I think we all know he won't say a g-ddamn word.

 

I'm telling you, this    "administration's" determination to get people to use the damn site in DIRECT    contradiction to their      safety and well-being   is FUCKING CRIMINAL.   There   is a lot more than   " mere" identity theft at stake here.    

 

You've got terminal cancer?   A prescription for oxycodone?   Well   congrats, you just turned up on a junkie's list of houses to rob.  

 

You're   a single parent with three kids, and you work two part-time jobs?   Congrats, you just ended up on a pedophile's list of houses to    leer at.

 

You're a young woman living alone?   Congrats, a rapist just got all your personal details.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 03, 2013 12:00 PM (4df7R)

73 In my little experience with code I know fixing one bug usually makes another one (or two).  Like the bubble in the wallpaper game.

It takes forever to get something unbugged.

Posted by: eleven at December 03, 2013 12:00 PM (KXm42)

74 Has anyone speculated that the lack of security was intended?

It's been speculated, but Occam more likely applies in this situation.  There's not one element of this thing that was well implemented, so why would security be any different?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 03, 2013 12:01 PM (B/VB5)

75 We are under a blizzard of death warning here. Guess I'll go check the radar. Maybe the website ID stealing will goose the economy. Lord knows it needs it. Later.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 03, 2013 12:01 PM (1Y+hH)

76

I signed up and now some tranny in Thailand is now got my Amazon Prime account

 

 

Thailand, huh?   At least that tranny knows his / her place.

Posted by: garrett at December 03, 2013 12:01 PM (lKP9h)

77 Can someone aask Chief Justice John Roberts if LifeLock is a tax or a fine?

Check out my concurring opinion at 33.

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts, Still Growing In Office at December 03, 2013 12:01 PM (8ZskC)

78 On FOX News, the Union thugs are gong bat shit about losing their pensions. Cry me a river

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 12:02 PM (t3UFN)

79 I had my identity stolen once.  It absolutely sucks and the cops can't/won't help you in anyway other than take a report.  You are on your own when it happens.

Posted by: Registered Voter at December 03, 2013 12:02 PM (Hdbf3)

80 These people could fuck up a peanut butter sandwich. And remember these are our betters. Smartest assholes in the room!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 03, 2013 12:02 PM (oFCZn)

81 who's that one dumbass who got on TV and said it was all scalable HTML and easy as setting up a webserver? good grief what a clusterf*ck this thing is.

also, I'm sure these security experts are getting lined up for a roto-rooter style IRS audit any minute now

Posted by: Jay in CDA at December 03, 2013 12:02 PM (xGt2P)

82 They said they implemented over 400 bug fixes Wow. 400 bugs is nothing. Tells me they've barely begun.

Posted by: t-bird at December 03, 2013 12:02 PM (FcR7P)

83

47 -

 

And yet, right across the river in Missouri, every time you have ever been to court is right there on the internet for all to see.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2013 12:02 PM (TOk1P)

84 Is there a anti-ACA PAC on the right that plans to advertise this... warn potential victims away from Healthcare.gov. It would be honest and responsible and oh yeah, it would help cause the death spiral and the end of this nightmare.

Posted by: scofflawx, PhD Candidate at December 03, 2013 12:02 PM (Mmwdu)

85 This is kinda like that whole Obama campaign site "oopsie" where zip code verification on donations was "unintentionally" not enabled so that it accepted donations from foreigners, right?

Posted by: Obamacare Navigators - Enroll America, ACORN, La Raza, Planned Parenthood at December 03, 2013 12:02 PM (JRmiD)

86 (sorry i forgot to say i believe this  is their stance)

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 12:02 PM (nqBYe)

87 We can all be comforted by the fact that IF your data gets compromised, there's oodles of youtube videos to blame.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 03, 2013 12:02 PM (wNF3N)

88 David Kennedy to be audited by the IRS in 3...2...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2013 12:03 PM (DrWcr)

89 Thailand, huh? At least that tranny knows his / her place.


*golf clap for cross-thread reference*


Posted by: EC at December 03, 2013 12:03 PM (GQ8sn)

90

65 This is starting to look very planned. Obama is stalling Obamacare until after the 2014 elections. He'll blame the web site and not his plan.


And another thing, what happens to people with fluctuating incomes? The self-employeed. This month you qualify for a government subsidy, then next month you don't. This year you do, next year you don't. Fucking nightmare.

 

Evidently there was a need for 16,000 new IRS agents.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at December 03, 2013 12:03 PM (oDCMR)

91 Hey, it's all good.

The feds will just download your info to the City of Detroit.

Bankruptcy solved!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 03, 2013 12:03 PM (wtvvX)

92 We found out by accident when she applied for a bank credit card, one we already had. The bank called us. She ran that up in 2weeks

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 12:03 PM (zOTsN)

93 The good news is that Libs have turned off the t.v. and are singing tra-la-la as loud as they can.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at December 03, 2013 12:03 PM (6RwsK)

94 look you guys it's just another way of sharing the collectives pie.

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 12:03 PM (nqBYe)

95 I had my identity stolen once. It absolutely sucks and the cops can't/won't help you in anyway other than take a report. You are on your own when it happens.

Be sure to file that report, though.  It will be part of your defense when the warrants come down.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 03, 2013 12:03 PM (YEelc)

96
Legislation?  They're to worried about plastic guns to care about anybody's actual health or security.

Posted by: Vernon Davis at December 03, 2013 12:04 PM (caCiW)

97 Who else thinks healthcare.gov is going to get mined like hell for DNC fundraising and get-out-the-vote purposes?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2013 12:04 PM (DrWcr)

98 Wait 'til Obama follows Amazon's lead and adds "drone service" to the web site.

Posted by: edj[/i] at December 03, 2013 12:04 PM (klzyR)

99 And started a dialogue. Cause raising awareness and starting dialogues constitute "work" in the world of liberals.

And by "dialogue" I mean "monologue", in which I harangue everyone who doesn't CARE as much as I do.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 03, 2013 12:04 PM (/kI1Q)

100 This is starting to look very planned. Obama is stalling Obamacare until after the 2014 elections. He'll blame the web site and not his plan. Elections are in November. 11 months of no medical insurance coverage does not bode well for donks.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2013 12:04 PM (xZxMD)

101 the Union thugs are gong bat shit about losing their pensions. But...but...but you promised us their money!!

Posted by: ...And what rhymes with thug you? at December 03, 2013 12:04 PM (FcR7P)

102 On FOX News, the Union thugs are gong bat shit about losing their pensions. Cry me a river



All those pensions...will be lost...in time....like tears....in rain.....


Posted by: EC at December 03, 2013 12:04 PM (GQ8sn)

103 I had my identity stolen once. It absolutely sucks and the cops can't/won't help you in anyway other than take a report. You are on your own when it happens. Posted by: Registered Voter at December 03, 2013 04:02 PM (Hdbf3) Yup me to. One time Radio Shack called me and asked if I was in Harlem trying to buy 3 TVs and opening up a Charge Account with them. Another time some idiots stole my identity from gateway computer and by mistake shipped it to my house instead of the drop site in NYC

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 12:04 PM (t3UFN)

104 They said they implemented over 400 bug fixes.

404, to be exact...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 03, 2013 12:04 PM (wtvvX)

105 Wish we had a Chik-fil-a nearby so I could have some Hate Chicken while on my shopping trip. Don't skip the hateraid, it's the best

Posted by: Orlandocon ette at December 03, 2013 12:04 PM (SldZ2)

106 82 I had my identity stolen once. It absolutely sucks and the cops can't/won't help you in anyway other than take a report. You are on your own when it happens. Posted by: Registered Voter at December 03, 2013 04:02 PM (Hdbf3) ~ My identity was stolen once but they brought it back when they found out what a loser I am.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 03, 2013 12:05 PM (6ahup)

107 Doesn't matter how poor you are, you can always pre-qualify for a $500-$250 w/ 28% interest store credit card.

Yeah.

A couple hundred thousand already harvested, fully ripe identities and you might be talking a small fortune.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 03, 2013 12:05 PM (VjL9S)

108 cicero, so they really do ask that?

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 03:55 PM (nqBYe)


I wouldn't know but if its not there now, look for it in the Obamacare 2.0 upgrade.

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts, Still Growing In Office at December 03, 2013 12:05 PM (8ZskC)

109 Jesus, I feel sorry for the poor saps who either have to use this beast and risk having their identity stolen or go without health insurance.
I'm lucky that I get to keep my health insurance (for now!) but what about the millions who have been kicked off and will be kicked off in the future?

Posted by: Fart at December 03, 2013 12:05 PM (2aB+q)

110 Thunderb we had a similar incident , a unknown to me shopper in another state using our card to buy furniture the store  jcpenney called and asked if i were out shopping
they were going over the max limits

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 12:05 PM (nqBYe)

111

79 -

 

Congratulations, you win the cross-thread  tie-in contest! 

Posted by: BurtTC at December 03, 2013 12:05 PM (TOk1P)

112 That's a feature, not a bug, glitch, design flaw, whateverthey'recallingit.
-
Self help income redistribution.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 03, 2013 12:05 PM (Hx5uv)

113 All those pensions...will be lost...in time....like tears....in rain.....


Posted by: EC at December 03, 2013 04:04 PM (GQ8sn)

 

Don't think Roy Batty had a pension plan...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2013 12:05 PM (DrWcr)

114 >>Who else thinks healthcare.gov is going to get mined like hell for DNC fundraising and get-out-the-vote purposes?


Why would you think that? *winks*
It's not like Plan Navigator status has been given to a bunch of Lefty activist organizations or anything....

Posted by: Obamacare Navigators - Enroll America, ACORN, La Raza, Planned Parenthood at December 03, 2013 12:05 PM (JRmiD)

115 I come to Ace for the Blade Runner references.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at December 03, 2013 12:05 PM (6RwsK)

116 Elections are in November. 11 months of no medical insurance coverage does not bode well for donks. Out of the kindness of his heart, Obama will grant single-payer insurance to whoever needs it.

Posted by: t-bird at December 03, 2013 12:05 PM (FcR7P)

117 And throw in a criminal penalty for responsible officials should they choose to conceal such breaches.

Heh. Never happen.

Posted by: The Marxist Democrat Machine at December 03, 2013 12:05 PM (Dwehj)

118 Can we start a betting pool on when some 12 year old hacker will crash the site and its 50K user limit with a Denial of Service attack?

Posted by: AndrewsDad at December 03, 2013 12:06 PM (C2//T)

119  Jesus Balls!
What a colossal failure

Posted by: berserker lurker at December 03, 2013 12:06 PM (dp+Dt)

120 >>All those pensions...will be lost...in time....like tears....in rain.... Time to Muntz. Ha Ha!

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 12:07 PM (g1DWB)

121 If we're going to criminalize the intentional concealment of breeches, why don't we just define it as a "high crime" just for completeness? That way, no one can question whether there is any wiggle room in interpretation of what the that means.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at December 03, 2013 12:07 PM (Djwm9)

122 No problem. King Obama has declared it fixed. Now the media is free to focus on other issues....

Posted by: JoeyBagels at December 03, 2013 12:07 PM (BtQt+)

123 >>Can we start a FUNDRAISER FOR some 12 year old hacker willcrash the site and its 50K user limit with a Denial of Service attack?

FIFY

Posted by: Obamacare Navigators - Enroll America, ACORN, La Raza, Planned Parenthood at December 03, 2013 12:07 PM (JRmiD)

124 Don't think Roy Batty had a pension plan...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2013 04:05 PM (DrWcr)



Yes he did.  It had a 4 year vesting time.




Posted by: EC at December 03, 2013 12:07 PM (GQ8sn)

125 I've coded patches until my paws are raw.

Posted by: Bo the Whitehouse Webmaster at December 03, 2013 12:07 PM (Dwehj)

126 "I know fixing one bug usually makes another one (or two)." You betcha!

Posted by: gp at December 03, 2013 12:07 PM (mk9aG)

127 On FOX News, the Union thugs are gong bat shit about losing their pensions. Cry me a river

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 04:02 PM (t3UFN)



You have but to ask.


*SOB*

Posted by: John Boehner at December 03, 2013 12:07 PM (+H/11)

128 Who else thinks healthcare.gov is going to get mined like hell for DNC fundraising and get-out-the-vote purposes?

I thought that was its primary purpose.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 03, 2013 12:07 PM (YEelc)

129 Remember the BP spill in the Gulf? Yeah, good times.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at December 03, 2013 12:08 PM (6RwsK)

130 Meanwhile, unsecured data is piling up in a dysfunctional backend system, easy for any hacker to alter, remove, or duplicate.  Though what's the point?  It's not like it's going to get to the right people anyway.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 03, 2013 12:09 PM (4df7R)

131 If your ID gets stolen, notify the three credit reporting agencies in writing. Have them put a hold on your info so they have to call you whenever new credit is requested. Contact your bank, and the cards. All UN writing. Keep copies of everything you send. For at least three years. In fact, forever in case you need a car loan or a mortgage

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 12:09 PM (zOTsN)

132 Does willow need some cheering up???

Posted by: maddogg at December 03, 2013 12:09 PM (xWW96)

133 Fun Part? There are reports that O's Tech Surge was... 6 people....

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 12:10 PM (lZBBB)

134 Car loans? Mortgages? In this economy?

Posted by: John the Libertarian at December 03, 2013 12:10 PM (6RwsK)

135 130 Don't think Roy Batty had a pension plan... Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2013 04:05 PM (DrWcr) Yes he did. It had a 4 year vesting time. --- I've seen Return On Investment you people would never believe... But soon they will all be lost, like tears in the rain.

Posted by: Roy Batty at December 03, 2013 12:10 PM (/Crba)

136 Roy Batty was only charge enough to live 4 years? That's fucked!

Posted by: Penis Love Vagina! at December 03, 2013 12:10 PM (kkbgQ)

137 I wonder if the three major credit reporting agenies are publicly traded compaines?

Posted by: YIKES! at December 03, 2013 12:11 PM (mETGQ)

138 i do, but boobs don't do 'it for me.

i need Hope for Change.

lol

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 12:11 PM (nqBYe)

139 400 down, only one to go! Bug: 401 Description: design makes implementation impossible. Status: needs moar speechifyin'

Posted by: The White House at December 03, 2013 12:11 PM (FcR7P)

140 LifeLock will let me sign up in three minutes. Never considered it before. $10 or $25 a month, though.

Posted by: edj[/i] at December 03, 2013 12:11 PM (klzyR)

141 Can we start a betting pool on when some 12 year old hacker willcrash the site and its 50K user limit with a Denial of Service attack?

Posted by: AndrewsDad at December 03, 2013 04:06 PM (C2//T)

 

a better one is DoS the waiting rooms also and poach everyones email addy.

 

Then it is spam-a-palousa, Nigerian Prices with bank account issues, 300 viagra spams per day.....

 

woot! 

Posted by: Fred Q. at December 03, 2013 12:11 PM (W6iIX)

142 I'd have fixed this stuff weeks ago, except for I can't get anything done with all of these constant pop-ups telling me to install Acme Antivirus. Sigh.

Posted by: Bo the Whitehouse Webmaster at December 03, 2013 12:11 PM (Dwehj)

143

So given an informed voter.... what do you think the compliance rate will be?  As soon as I get booted from my insurance, there is no way in hell I am going on the govt site. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 03, 2013 12:12 PM (32Ze2)

144 Help! I've fallen and I can't get up!

Posted by: Obama's Favorability Rating at December 03, 2013 12:12 PM (8ZskC)

145 I'm lucky that I get to keep my health insurance (for now!) but what about the millions who have been kicked off and will be kicked off in the future? Posted by: Fart at December 03, 2013 04:05 PM (2aB+q) I'm sorta hoping they will show up at their local Congressman's office with pitchforks and torches.

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 03, 2013 12:12 PM (bb5+k)

146 There are reports that O's Tech Surge was... 6 people.... Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 04:10 PM (lZBBB) ~ 5 of which likely built the "Wait in Queue" page. Success!

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at December 03, 2013 12:12 PM (6ahup)

147 Roy Batty was only charge enough to live 4 years? That's fucked! Posted by: Penis Love Vagina!

I thought Ned Beatty was fucked in Deliverance.

Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2013 12:12 PM (YWXTN)

148 We don't need no stinking sec . . . Hey, WTF? Obama is good. Obamacare is good. Obama is good. Obamacare is good. Obama is . . . . CTRL ALT DEL

Posted by: flounder at December 03, 2013 12:12 PM (Kkt/i)

149 edj if you signed onto obamacare , perhaps it would be a 20 well invested .

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 12:12 PM (nqBYe)

150 Car loans? Mortgages? In this economy?

I was thinking of getting a house because I have to move in March and I hate the fuck out of sharing walls with people who don't have to get up to work in the morning.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 03, 2013 12:13 PM (/kI1Q)

151 Current Crises Level: Chris Matthews

Posted by: USA at December 03, 2013 12:13 PM (VIaw0)

152 Posted by: Bo the Whitehouse Webmaster

You're posting too many pics of the First Bitch.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 03, 2013 12:14 PM (/kI1Q)

153 I thought Ned Beatty was fucked in Deliverance. Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2013 04:12 PM (YWXTN) And here comes Ted Cruz as Burt Reynolds with a badass hunting bow.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at December 03, 2013 12:14 PM (6RwsK)

154 Roy Batty was only charge enough to live 4 years? That's fucked! Bummer. After year five your fully vested in the retirement plan.

Posted by: Tyrell Corporation Benifits Department at December 03, 2013 12:14 PM (mETGQ)

155 I think Obama said your identity is protected as long as you are waiting in the Fuh  Queue.

Posted by: Roy at December 03, 2013 12:14 PM (VndSC)

156 so.

if someones finances or name or life gets stolen off the site do they have Standing?

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 12:14 PM (nqBYe)

157 Ted Cruz What a whacko bird!

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 12:14 PM (zOTsN)

158 or what if the hacker just rewrites their chart ? for fun?

Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 12:15 PM (nqBYe)

159 Gosh. I'm not signing up. I wouldn't want my identity being used for the wrong reasons.

Wouldn't want to learn I registered to vote in some extra places or something, ya know?

Posted by: Mickey Mouse at December 03, 2013 12:15 PM (bvtgt)

160
Daddy, did you plug the security holes yet?

Posted by: Sasha at December 03, 2013 12:15 PM (caCiW)

161

>>Yup me to. One time Radio Shack called me and asked if I was in Harlem trying to buy 3 TVs and opening up a Charge Account with them.

Another time some idiots stole my identity from gateway computer and by mistake shipped it to my house instead of the drop site in NYC

.

.

.Hey at least my guy had class.  He got a card and went to Geneva and bought hookers and blow at a gentlemen's club to the tune of $2,500 and sent me the friggin bill!  I would have never found out if the CC company had not insisted on sending the bill to my home address and not the Atlanta address he tried to use.  He also opened a cell phone in my name and various and sundry other things that took me almost a year to ferret out and finally convince everyone it wasn't me.

Posted by: Registered Voter at December 03, 2013 12:15 PM (Hdbf3)

162 If you like your big holes.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 03, 2013 12:15 PM (BrrWI)

163 Benefits of using healthcare.gov

1) 33% chance you won't actually be enrolled in a plan, which carries a 100% chance you will be assessed a penaltax by the IRS.
2) 100% chance you will pay more if you are enrolled than if you had bought insurance. Unless you were uninsurable before.
3) 100% chance your personal information--including your health history--will be sent a leftist group, e.g. Organizing for America.
4) 100% chance a voter registration card will be pre-filled and sent out--whether that's to your address or not isn't important.
5) 100% chance your identity will be stolen.
6) 80-90% chance you won't even be able to log in.

Gee, why aren't people rushing to sign up for that?

 

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 03, 2013 12:15 PM (VjL9S)

164 I wish my bank had called before cancelling my card. I told them I was going overseas due to deployment, the bastards still shut my account down when I used my card in Hong Kong. Do you have any idea how unnerving it is to be completely broke in a foreign country? Took them months to correct it. Fortunately I had left my Dad with access to the account, so he could fight with the bank as my proxy.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at December 03, 2013 12:15 PM (Opyrm)

165 Sign up for Obamacare today and get 3,000 emails free daily about lace wigs and Nigerian get rich schemes.

Posted by: Sphynx at December 03, 2013 12:16 PM (OZmbA)

166

Legislation Required: The bills floating around Congress should remedy this defect and include a command that victims of security breaches be alerted, and the public generally apprised of how many breaches occur.

And throw in a criminal penalty for responsible officials should they choose to conceal such breaches.

 

 

-------------------------------------------------------

 

 

More legislation for this POS?  Fuck that.   REPEAL IT!

Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 12:16 PM (9sMM9)

167 if someones finances or name or life gets stolen off the site do they have Standing? Posted by: willow at December 03, 2013 04:14 PM (nqBYe) The site itself has a disclaimer saying you do not have a reasonable expectation of Privacy... that your info 'may' be shared... So.... no...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 12:16 PM (lZBBB)

168
NOBODY HAS FUCKING STANDING.

Posted by: Dread Butt Pirate John Roberts at December 03, 2013 12:16 PM (caCiW)

169 If you like your big holes.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 03, 2013 04:15 PM (BrrWI)

 

How YOU doin'?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 03, 2013 12:16 PM (DrWcr)

170

"...And throw in a criminal penalty for responsible officials should they choose to conceal such breaches."

 

Oh, you're talking about consequences now? Silly rabbit, there are no consequences.  Or penalties.  Or strongly worded letters.  In an administration notorious for scandal, incompetence, and outright criminal behavior, not one person (to my knowledge) has so much as lost a job.  Consequences are for losers and--paraphrasing President Obama--he won, twice.

Posted by: troyriser at December 03, 2013 12:17 PM (2jF2B)

171 Another time some asshole tried to use my card to buy plane tickets from Africa for the London Olympics

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 12:17 PM (zOTsN)

172 You know, I've been saying for awhile that Western Civilization is dead, but this just drives it home.
http://is.gd/pjt0dW

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 03, 2013 12:17 PM (/kI1Q)

173 NOBODY HAS FUCKING STANDING.

Posted by: Dread Butt Pirate John Roberts at December 03, 2013 04:16 PM (caCiW)

 

Sure, if you do it right.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2013 12:17 PM (DrWcr)

174 Surely the awesomeness of Barry will shield the little liberals signing up on the site.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 03, 2013 12:17 PM (oFCZn)

175 >>Benefits of using healthcare.gov

1) 33% chance you won't actually be enrolled in a plan, which carries a 100% chance you will be assessed a penaltax by the IRS.
2) 100% chance you will pay more if you are enrolled than if you had bought insurance. Unless you were uninsurable before.
3) 100% chance your personal information--including your health history--will be sent a leftist group, e.g. Organizing for America.
4) 100% chance a voter registration card will be pre-filled and sent out--whether that's to your address or not isn't important.
5) 100% chance your identity will be stolen.
6) 80-90% chance you won't even be able to log in.

Gee, why aren't people rushing to sign up for that?

************
Don't forget:
7) If you qualify for Medicaid there is a 100% chance you will be enrolled and given no other health insurance purchase options.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2013 12:18 PM (JRmiD)

176 Anybody mentions standing again and I'll kill 'em.

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts at December 03, 2013 12:18 PM (8ZskC)

177 And throw in a criminal penalty for responsible officials should they choose to conceal such breaches.

Ace is so cute when he gets all idealistic on us.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 03, 2013 12:18 PM (SY2Kh)

178 Remember to keep up the magical thinking! We can wish these security flaws away by magic!

Posted by: John the Libertarian at December 03, 2013 12:18 PM (6RwsK)

179 Standing

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 12:18 PM (zOTsN)

180 You h8ers are a h8in' agin. Can't you see this is for the common hood.
 
Good, not hood. My bad.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 03, 2013 12:18 PM (wNF3N)

181 This turd is getting really hard to polish. Whew.

Posted by: The Media at December 03, 2013 12:19 PM (Dwehj)

182 I'm just standing here.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 03, 2013 12:19 PM (YEelc)

183 You know, I've been saying for awhile that Western Civilization is dead, but this just drives it home.
http://is.gd/pjt0dW

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer <<<

 

 

 

too late

Posted by: Zima at December 03, 2013 12:19 PM (VndSC)

184 Meanwhile, since it went online in October, roughly 33% of users who tried to use Obammycare.gov have encountered glitches, bugs, or other errors, making their experience    suboptimal.   But hey, that's no problem.   I mean, when a third of Amazon's customers can't get onto the site, can't search the site, can't order what they want to order from the site, can't pay for what they've ordered,    or can't get what they've ordered delivered to them, that's no problem!  Happens all the time.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 03, 2013 12:19 PM (4df7R)

185
Funny thing is, it's probably less expensive to pay the no-insurance tax penalty than what you stand to lose from identity theft/tanking your credit rating.

I've decided to change careers. I'm now a professional caveman.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 03, 2013 12:19 PM (TIIx5)

186 I'm still standing.

Posted by: Queen Elton John at December 03, 2013 12:20 PM (6RwsK)

187

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 03, 2013 04:17 PM (/kI1Q)

 

 

 

 

Heather, western civ. started downhill when ever standards were lowered enough so that rat squeezings like Budwiser could be called a "premium beer".

Posted by: maddogg at December 03, 2013 12:20 PM (xWW96)

188 *icy judicial glare*

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts at December 03, 2013 12:20 PM (8ZskC)

189 A can of Krylon glossy security will fix it up in a jiffy.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 03, 2013 12:21 PM (L0b3J)

190 Dos Equis, formulated by an Austrian brewmeister, brewed by Mexicans.

Posted by: Sphynx at December 03, 2013 12:21 PM (OZmbA)

191 More legislation for this POS? Fuck that. REPEAL IT!

Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 04:16 PM (9sMM9)

 

I'd say the legislation wouldn't apply solely to Obammycare, but to all federal data systems   that house personal, individually identifiable data.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 03, 2013 12:21 PM (4df7R)

192 183 You know, I've been saying for awhile that Western Civilization is dead, but this just drives it home. http://is.gd/pjt0dW Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 03, 2013 04:17 PM (/kI1Q) It's got electrolytes which plants crave!

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 03, 2013 12:21 PM (bb5+k)

193 So obamacare is impossible to sign up for, I mean it's not like that foreign speaking DR in a county 50 miles away is gonna be able to help you anyway. Leeches anyone?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 12:22 PM (t3UFN)

194 A professor of cultural studies at Boston Suffolk University has a plan:

This man has a plan to sterilize not just the women of 13 countries, but the women of the entire world.

-

Now, I'm no professor but I think I may see a sustainability problem with this plan.

Linked on NRO.


Posted by: WalrusRex at December 03, 2013 12:22 PM (Hx5uv)

195 Bondo -- its not just for fucked up cars

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 03, 2013 12:22 PM (L0b3J)

196 I had some clowns drain my checking account using multiple high dollar transactions in one minute at a grocery store - then that same weekend try an get a car using an instant car loan (they got the loan, but the dealer flagged the paperwork inconsistencies - they were minutes from driving off in "my" new car).

Posted by: Jean at December 03, 2013 12:22 PM (cLM8I)

197 No. Just 80% of the time.

Posted by: Mega at December 03, 2013 04:20 PM (uvaJ1)

 

Ah, you're right, of course.  The other 20% never even make it that far.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 03, 2013 12:22 PM (4df7R)

198 Standing by me Ohhh Standing, by me

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 12:22 PM (zOTsN)

199 I don't often drink beer, but when I do, I prefer rat piss formulated by Australian brewmeisters and brewed by Mexicans.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at December 03, 2013 12:22 PM (6RwsK)

200 >>I'd say the legislation wouldn't apply solely to Obammycare, but to all federal data systems that house personal, individually identifiable data.

What about the Obamacare hub? Do we even know who will have access to it?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2013 12:22 PM (JRmiD)

201 Barry: If you like your personal information being secure you can ke...well you're screwed

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 03, 2013 12:23 PM (1Jaio)

202 I don't often drink beer, but when I do, I prefer rat piss formulated by Australian brewmeisters and brewed by Mexicans. Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at December 03, 2013 04:22 PM (6RwsK) Substitute Egyptian beer and your close

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 12:23 PM (t3UFN)

203 What about the Obamacare hub? Do we even know who will have access to it?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2013 04:22 PM (JRmiD)

 

 

"*shifty eyes*"

 

-The NSA

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 03, 2013 12:23 PM (4df7R)

204 Standing by your man, and tell the world....

Posted by: Thunderb at December 03, 2013 12:23 PM (zOTsN)

205 I would have to state that Messikans brew some pretty tasty rat piss.

Posted by: maddogg at December 03, 2013 12:24 PM (xWW96)

206 >>prefer rat piss formulated by Australian

The Australians may use rat piss, but the Austrians use barley and hops.

Posted by: Sphynx at December 03, 2013 12:24 PM (OZmbA)

207 What about the Obamacare hub? Do we even know who will have access to it?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2013 04:22 PM (JRmiD)


It is not the place of a subject to ask such impertinent questions.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 03, 2013 12:24 PM (8ZskC)

208 Walrus Rex, you see a problem, they see success!

Posted by: nnptcgrad at December 03, 2013 12:24 PM (Opyrm)

209 I guarantee you one thing.  If I end up losing my insurance next year, I will not in one bajillion years go through the federal exchange.  I'll go right and purchase from an insurance company but no way in hell I'm putting my information on that website.  It's bad enough I have to send them all the crap I do for my taxes.

Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at December 03, 2013 12:24 PM (GrtrJ)

210 212 What about the Obamacare hub? Do we even know who will have access to it? Convicted felons.

Posted by: edj[/i] at December 03, 2013 12:24 PM (klzyR)

211 Some yahoo on FOX with a bow tie wants to double the federal gas tax..Must be a democrat

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 12:24 PM (t3UFN)

212 A computer hacker walks into a bar and commences to get shit faced.  As he was about to leave,  the bartender grabs him and says " give me your keys, I can't let you derive drunk"

Posted by: polynikes self proclaimed king of walked into a bar jokes at December 03, 2013 12:24 PM (m2CN7)

213 Now on FNC:  Reporting that push is on to double fed gas tax.

Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 12:25 PM (9sMM9)

214 Well maybe time for some good news. 

For you fans of the Japanese Godzilla movies and of Monkey Punch's Lupin the 3rd franchise.  The director for Godzilla: Final Wars will direct the forthcoming live action Lupin the 3rd movie.

http://cybernautscast.wordpress.com/2013/12/03/lupin-the-3rd-goes-live/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2013 12:25 PM (B9up3)

215 What about the Obamacare hub? Do we even know who will have access to it?

ACORN, SEIU, OFA

Posted by: Jean at December 03, 2013 12:25 PM (cLM8I)

216 Earl? his fuckin name is earl? No wonder he has a bow tie

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 12:25 PM (t3UFN)

217 Never had my identity stolen but I did have my credit card number stolen. Turns out I wanted to fly to various cities in Africa for no apparent reason. Gotta give credit to AMEX. They called me and took the charges away.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 12:25 PM (g1DWB)

218 Daddy, did you plug the security holes yet?

Posted by: Sasha at December 03, 2013 04:15 PM (caCiW)





Barry: Not yet, but take a hike because Reggie's gonna plug my holes

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 03, 2013 12:25 PM (1Jaio)

219 Never had my identity stolen but I did have my credit card number stolen. Turns out I wanted to fly to various cities in Africa for no apparent reason. Gotta give credit to AMEX. They called me and took the charges away. Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 04:25 PM (g1DWB) Shit I get my credit card numbers stolen all the time.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 12:26 PM (t3UFN)

220 So, you know what is going as well here?

These credit card companies have to have an insurance policy that reimburses them for identity theft.
So, it's an acceptable level of loss for them right now.

Tell me, what happens when those policies get cancelled after, say 300,000 new cases in a week? And the credit card companies have to take measures to cut their losses?

Hint: the crash of 2008 was over a threatened constriction in commercial credit.

I mean, we haven't even started gaming out the second and third level effects of this mess.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 03, 2013 12:26 PM (VjL9S)

221 I thought it was still legal to punch people in the face for wearing bow ties.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at December 03, 2013 12:27 PM (6RwsK)

222 200 John Roberts comes from the Hillary Clinton School of Taxation:
 
"We (the United States) tax everything that moves and doesn’t move, and that’s not what we see in Pakistan,” she said.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 03, 2013 12:27 PM (wNF3N)

223 Information security is for the elites, not the proles.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 03, 2013 12:27 PM (urv6T)

224 And throw in a criminal penalty for responsible officials should they choose to conceal such breaches. Uh.... you do realize that this would kill any Internet surveillance? I mean if we had to DISCLOSE when your data was being looked at??? What, you want Privacy or something?

Posted by: NSA and DHS... Thanks loads Repubs... at December 03, 2013 12:27 PM (lZBBB)

225 UWP, why the hell do they care about hosting costs?  The have a budget of billions.  They could make a phone call and have DISA stand up a secure server farm in 30min.  I understand that kind of effort from a start-up running off their credit cards, but why HHS?

Posted by: Jean at December 03, 2013 12:27 PM (cLM8I)

226 Maybe this is why SCOAMF won't sign up.

Someone might steal his identity and use it for nefarious purposes.

(like finding out he wasn't born here, or even worse *shudder* his grades*)

Posted by: just sitting here in my tinfoil hat at December 03, 2013 12:27 PM (bvtgt)

227 There. The new banner on the home page "Hackers Beware!" with a skull and crossbones should do the trick. Ready for business!

Posted by: Bo the Whitehouse Webmaster at December 03, 2013 12:27 PM (Dwehj)

228 And "Earl" has a flouresent bycicle on his lapel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 12:27 PM (t3UFN)

229
Now on FNC: Reporting that push is on to double fed gas tax.

Cause Lord knows we don't pay enough taxes.

I suspect the repubs will vote for it and kill themselves for the election.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 03, 2013 12:28 PM (caCiW)

230 I just had a brain storm: They should make the Zerocare website a no hacking zone. That'll do it. Yer welcome.

Posted by: maddogg at December 03, 2013 12:28 PM (xWW96)

231 >>What about the Obamacare hub? Do we even know who will have access to it?
ACORN, SEIU, OFA

Those guys have access to the Obamacare site, but the hub is the mega db that merges the Obamacare site with a bunch of other federal dbs, including IRS, DHS, etc. It will be one-stop shopping for bureaucrats wanting info on a citizen.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2013 12:29 PM (JRmiD)

232 I just had a brain storm: They should make the Zerocare website a no hacking zone.

I'm angry I didn't think of that first.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 03, 2013 12:29 PM (/kI1Q)

233 Careful there MadDog, you might give Biden a run for the title of this Administration's brain trust. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2013 12:30 PM (B9up3)

234

I just had a brain storm: They should make the Zerocare website a no hacking zone. That'll do it. Yer welcome.

 

Hey why not?  It works perfectly for guns!  Oh, wait...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2013 12:30 PM (DrWcr)

235 Now on FNC: Reporting that push is on to double fed gas tax.
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I was just feeling sassy on Sunday because I bought gas for lee than $3.00.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 03, 2013 12:30 PM (Hx5uv)

236 democrats have NO answers other than tax and spend

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 12:31 PM (t3UFN)

237 We're gonna double the fed gas tax? Sweet. Cause, you know, having some of the highest gas prices in the country wasn't already fun enough.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 03, 2013 12:31 PM (GEICT)

238 Reporting that push is on to double fed gas tax.

A splendid idea!

Posted by: October, 1929 at December 03, 2013 12:31 PM (Dwehj)

239 I think there should be a minimum wage of $14 per hour for hackers. A living wage!

Posted by: Sphynx at December 03, 2013 12:31 PM (OZmbA)

240 We had the explosion.  Then the secondary explosions, now the tertiary explosions are starting to cook off.  What's next?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 03, 2013 12:31 PM (gmoEG)

241 I hope they keep growing government because this is working out so well.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at December 03, 2013 12:31 PM (6RwsK)

242 Way back when the intertoobz still used tubes I got a call from Agent SoAndSo at the Detroit DEA office.  My CC# was on a list found with a heroin smuggler.  Had to tell Lord+Taylors that I'd never been to Detroit or spent > 600$ in a day let alone on clothes.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 03, 2013 12:31 PM (DL2i+)

243
Joey Biden: Just don't give these hacker guys Obamacare's webnet number then they can't dial it and hacker it. Problem solved

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 03, 2013 12:31 PM (1Jaio)

244

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at December 03, 2013 04:30 PM (OWjjx)

 

 

 

 

Feel free. I don't twitter.

Posted by: maddogg at December 03, 2013 12:31 PM (xWW96)

245 And "Earl" has a flouresent bycicle on his lapel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 04:27 PM (t3UFN)

 

 

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Yup.  He looks and acts like the  epitome of a leftist academic pussy.   Fucking pussyman.

 

Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 12:32 PM (9sMM9)

246 You just know some Dem is going to laugh at these concerns and say something along the lines of, "Obama got bin Laden, I think he can find some hacker in China. So no, no one is going to hack healthcare.gov."

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 03, 2013 12:32 PM (VjL9S)

247 this guy is an asshole

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 12:32 PM (t3UFN)

248 >>And "Earl" has a flouresent bycicle on his lapel Always. He's a world class douche.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 12:32 PM (g1DWB)

249 Joey Biden: Just don't give these hacker guys Obamacare's webnet number then they can't dial it and hacker it. Problem solved

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 03, 2013 04:31 PM (1Jaio)

 

And if they do, go out to the balcony and fire two shotgun blasts into the air.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2013 12:32 PM (DrWcr)

250 Duh, there's a gas tax? They don't charge me tax.

Posted by: LIV at December 03, 2013 12:32 PM (OZmbA)

251 Cloward-Piven working. These fucks are a domestic enemy.

Posted by: torabora at December 03, 2013 12:32 PM (QnYHF)

252 Neil Cavuto is about to blow a blood vessel trying to get a simple answer from 'Earl of the glowing bicycle'

Posted by: Ragamuffin at December 03, 2013 12:32 PM (fzFF6)

253 Obamacare? Never heard of it.

Posted by: LIV at December 03, 2013 12:33 PM (OZmbA)

254 271 Obamacare? Never heard of it.
Posted by: LIV



You and me both, buddy.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at December 03, 2013 12:33 PM (OZmbA)

255 Is this the Earl from My Name is Earl???

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2013 12:33 PM (B9up3)

256 Obama's approval rating in the RCP average of polls has just fallen below 40% for the first time. You may commence fapping.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 12:34 PM (g1DWB)

257 Who the hell is this idiot who's arguing with Cavuto? And what's with the neon green bicycle pin?

Posted by: Antisocialist at December 03, 2013 12:34 PM (eGr8Z)

258
I don't often drink beer, but when I do, I prefer rat piss formulated by Australian brewmeisters and brewed by Mexicans.
Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at December 03, 2013 04:22 PM (6RwsK)

Substitute Egyptian beer and your close

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 04:23 PM (t3UFN)








Oh wow. At least one other Moron has sampled Stella......

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 03, 2013 12:34 PM (TIIx5)

259 GOODBYE, EARL!

Posted by: Dixie Scrunts at December 03, 2013 12:35 PM (/kI1Q)

260 Those guys have access to the Obamacare site, but the hub is the mega db that merges the Obamacare site with a bunch of other federal dbs, including IRS, DHS, etc. It will be one-stop shopping for bureaucrats wanting info on a citizen.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2013 04:29 PM (JRmiD)

 

 

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Don't get paranoid or anything, but I think they've had all, ALL our information for years.

Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 12:35 PM (9sMM9)

261 Et tu, NBC? (Well, CNBC anyway...but still) http://cnb.cx/1dO9MyP

Posted by: MTF at December 03, 2013 12:36 PM (ac/8R)

262 You may commence continue fapping.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2013 04:34 PM (g1DWB)

 

We are Morons, after all...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2013 12:37 PM (DrWcr)

263 Don't get paranoid or anything, but I think they've had all, ALL our information for years.

Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 04:35 PM (9sMM9)

 

maybe, but if healthcare.gov is any example of government IT capabilities, I'm not too skeered

 

remember they had no idea the speedbump brotherw were until they ID'd the oldest speed bump brother

Posted by: Fred Q. at December 03, 2013 12:38 PM (W6iIX)

264 Should attribute on Twitter the 404Care site being hacker free to Biden.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2013 12:39 PM (B9up3)

265 Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 04:35 PM (9sMM9) Yes, but now with the Disclaimer you on the Website, saying you do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy... We can put ALL your data together, and use it for whatever purpose we want...

Posted by: NSA and DHS... Thanks loads Repubs... at December 03, 2013 12:39 PM (lZBBB)

266 LIV at December 03, 2013 04:33 PM (OZmbA) Pretty good hash for the walking mentally-dead Obama voters.

Posted by: t-bird at December 03, 2013 12:39 PM (FcR7P)

267 Nigerian Blue Cross saved me 3000% on my premiums! (As soon as I put up $3000 'good faith' money)

Posted by: --- at December 03, 2013 12:40 PM (MMC8r)

268
Barry - Technical Genius: What do you mean the website isn't protected? uhhh...ummm...See if we can get some computer size condoms to put over the your computer before you log it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 03, 2013 12:40 PM (1Jaio)

269 And what's with the neon green bicycle pin? --- Be seeing you!

Posted by: Number Two at December 03, 2013 12:40 PM (/Crba)

270 Nigerian Blue Cross saved me 3000% on my premiums! (As soon as I put up $3000 'good faith' money) Posted by: --- at December 03, 2013 04:40 PM (MMC8r) Now that's funny

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 12:41 PM (t3UFN)

271 And what's with the neon green bicycle pin?

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Be seeing you!

Posted by: Number Two at December 03, 2013 04:40 PM (/Crba)

 

I am not a number!  I am a free man!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 03, 2013 12:41 PM (DrWcr)

272 If a hacker likes your name, ssn, dob and address, he'll keep your name, ssn, dob and address.

Posted by: YIKES! at December 03, 2013 12:42 PM (mETGQ)

273 Even worse, the whole airline-note-passing incident was a fake. When you can't trust a Hollywood dipshit who looks like Nick Nolte fucked a Wookie and it had his baby, the terrorists have won. http://tinyurl.com/nlua5tu Great writing, btw, Elan. You made up the entire story and you STILL couldn't make yourself come off as the winner, or even as less than a passive-aggressive, cowardly little cheesedick.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 03, 2013 12:42 PM (CJjw5)

274 We can put ALL your data together, and use it for whatever purpose we want...

Posted by: NSA and DHS... Thanks loads Repubs... at December 03, 2013 04:39 PM (lZBBB)

 

 

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The only thing they didn't have access to until last year was my medical records.  Now they even have that.  And I haven't even gotten close to the Ocare website.

Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 12:42 PM (9sMM9)

275 You know... there is a Pulitzer prize sitting out there... waiting for the reporter who goes to the INSURANCE companies listed on the Obamacare sites, and asking THEM how many people they have successfully enrolled.... But that would take some actual reporting...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 12:43 PM (lZBBB)

276 The Elan Gale airline nasty note exchange with the woman was a HOAX.
 
Daily Mail has details:
 
http://tinyurl.com/q4gn6gp

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 03, 2013 12:43 PM (wNF3N)

277

The British loon John McAfee said it best:

 

This website is a hacker's wet dream.

Posted by: Cheri at December 03, 2013 12:44 PM (G+Wff)

278 287 And what's with the neon green bicycle pin? --- Be seeing you! Posted by: Number Two at December 03, 2013 04:40 PM (/Crba) Fucking Bubbles....

Posted by: Number 6 at December 03, 2013 12:44 PM (lZBBB)

279 We're keeping the enrollment error rate a secret because it's so awesomely low and we wouldn't want to embarass you teabaggers with how awesome it is!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 03, 2013 12:44 PM (+H/11)

280 The only thing they didn't have access to until last year was my medical records. Now they even have that. And I haven't even gotten close to the Ocare website. Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 04:42 PM (9sMM9) HIPPA law is pretty much dead as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: YIKES! at December 03, 2013 12:45 PM (mETGQ)

281 292 Aaaand EoJ beats me to the punch on the hoax reveal.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 03, 2013 12:45 PM (wNF3N)

282 You know, there isn't anything to be worried about with hackers on the healthcare.gov site, as the only people signing up have no real money anyway. Hackers want to go for the money!

Posted by: Janir at December 03, 2013 12:45 PM (64eg4)

283 The good news is ....  f*ckit.

Now millions of Americans are confronted with a terrible dilemma:  Do I enter my private financial and health-related information into a hopelessly compromised federal government information network, or do I pay the federal government's fine for not entering my private financial and health-related information into a hopelessly compromised federal government information network?

Posted by: mrp at December 03, 2013 12:46 PM (HjPtV)

284 >>But that would take some actual reporting...


....and I guessing most/all journalists aren't interested in doing anything that would invite screamy calls from Carney, cut off from WH access, an IRS audit, wiretapping to get at the sources, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2013 12:46 PM (JRmiD)

285 294 there is a Pulitzer prize sitting out there... waiting for the reporter who goes to the INSURANCE companies listed on the Obamacare sites, and asking THEM how many people they have successfully enrolled.... I know definitively the answer for at least one state that "built" its own exchange... Zero. Precisely zero.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 03, 2013 12:46 PM (sjuby)

286 I saw Permit Hackers open for Cheap Trick at the dome in '81.

Posted by: Countrysquire at December 03, 2013 12:46 PM (LSJmV)

287

>>>Hackers want to go for the money!<<<

 

 

You can sell SSNs for more than Bitcoin out there.

Posted by: Roy at December 03, 2013 12:47 PM (VndSC)

288 I think I'll go back to paying cash for everything whenever possible.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 03, 2013 12:47 PM (yh0zB)

289 I honestly do not know what we are going to do. I'm really scared for my husband. I'm worried about my kids. I'm keeping my fingers crossed I don't have another TIA...

This is just ridiculous. We had insurance and now *poof* we don't. All because of the megalomaniac in the white house needed an applause line.

Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2013 04:41 PM (hFL/3)


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Lauren -  Did you say that you were looking into some sort of medical sharing plan through a Christian organization?  Did that pan out?

Posted by: mama winger at December 03, 2013 12:47 PM (P6QsQ)

290 HIPPA law is pretty much dead as far as I'm concerned. Posted by: YIKES! at December 03, 2013 04:45 PM (mETGQ) The HIPPA law or any law was never meant to mean anything to the obama admin. And the HIPPA law is just some one's wet dream way to make money on useless paper work and always has been. It's a fraud

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 03, 2013 12:48 PM (t3UFN)

291 Uh... you mean healthcare.gov is a hoax.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at December 03, 2013 12:48 PM (6RwsK)

292 “This is our ultimate dogfooding experience,” said Eric Gundersen, the co-founder of Development Seed.

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Ok, WTF is "dogfooding"? Forget it, I don't want to know.

Zerocare is all about dog shit, not dog food.

Posted by: Chris Creosote at December 03, 2013 12:48 PM (YmPwQ)

293 Aaaand EoJ beats me to the punch on the hoax reveal. Posted by: GnuBreed at December 03, 2013 04:45 PM (wNF3N) ------------------------ And I sweetened it with Nick Nolte fucking a Wookie.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 03, 2013 12:48 PM (CJjw5)

294 You know... there is a Pulitzer prize sitting out there...

No there isn't.  The committee will never reward a wrecker/sabateur who attempts to deflate Ear Leader's propaganda.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 03, 2013 12:49 PM (/kI1Q)

295 Don't fret, guys. It's all worth it to finally have access to affordable healthcare.

Posted by: Chad Henderson - Cockjockey at December 03, 2013 12:49 PM (LSJmV)

296
Well for a bit of good news.

Number two son scored 2k of CCI large pistol primers today.


..... but I have this nagging premonition Im gonna need them sooner rather than later.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 03, 2013 12:49 PM (nELVU)

297 Who you gonna believe, me or some folks that have been doing computer/website security for 30 years?


Posted by: King Barky the Liar at December 03, 2013 12:49 PM (WGm5T)

298 This is just ridiculous. We had insurance and now *poof* we don't. All part of the plan, wInGnUtZ!!!!11111 Obey.

Posted by: Top. Men. at December 03, 2013 12:50 PM (ymlXZ)

299 Hey, the Administrative Simplifications provisions of HIPAA (which don't simplify anything of course) keep the lights on in my house. The acronym really stands for the "Kennedy-Kassebaum Permanent Healthcare EDI SME Employment Act of 1996", but yeah, it's HIPAA not HIPPA. I love reviewing resumes of folks with HIPPA experience. So does File 13.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 03, 2013 12:50 PM (sjuby)

300 313 >> And I sweetened it with Nick Nolte fucking a Wookie.
 
*makes a note to never ask for sweet tea at EoJ's house*

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 03, 2013 12:51 PM (wNF3N)

301 off topic, but ted rall seems to have gotten his head our of his ass, if only briefly:

http://www.gocomics.com/tedrall/2013/12/02#.Up5SGCcvmLk

Posted by: Mallfly at December 03, 2013 12:51 PM (bJm7W)

302 Your move, senator Cruz.

Posted by: Mr. Powerstroke Super Duty 4X4 King Ranch Edition at December 03, 2013 12:52 PM (LSJmV)

303 And I sweetened it with Nick Nolte fucking a Wookie. --- Jesus, it must have been the week I was in New York for SNL and got "sick" while hanging out at Studio 54. I guess I did so much coke that I spent the night with Eddie's Aunt Bunny.

Posted by: Nick Nolte at December 03, 2013 12:52 PM (/Crba)

304 What does a brother have to do to get an indictment around here?

Posted by: Scooter Libby at December 03, 2013 12:52 PM (2iHnw)

305 I hate to be a dick about it, but did you actually think giving your personal info to the govt was a good plan? 

Ever?

I do have empathy for the sodden twits that did, but at the same time:  "fkin duh."

Posted by: tangonine at December 03, 2013 12:53 PM (x3YFz)

306 >>>The expert (a white-hat hacker)<<<

What he really wears is a white hood.

Posted by: MFM at December 03, 2013 12:53 PM (bvtgt)

307

Speaking of LifeLock:

 

Did some research on a post on this latest outrage, and, in true tin-foil-hat style, Googled LL, got the name and city of its CEO, and ran him through OpenSecrets.

 

The bad news is that the only political contributions he's made are to his Republican Rep. Drat! Aside from Big Pharma, he's going to be the biggest net beneficiary of the ObamaTax.

Posted by: speedster1 at December 03, 2013 12:53 PM (v40Bj)

308 Ok, WTF is "dogfooding"? Forget it, I don't want to know. I'm guessing that, in the new, improved USSA; this will become standard rations for white, rIgHtWiNg!!111 H8rs!!!!eLeBinTy!!!! as we atone for all of our prior sins. We'll be doing penance out here in flyover country.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 03, 2013 12:54 PM (ymlXZ)

309 EoJ -- One lump or two?
 
Gnu -- Er, no thanks. Nolte can thank me later.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 03, 2013 12:55 PM (wNF3N)

310 but, but...grandma prefers cat food.

Posted by: Countrysquire at December 03, 2013 12:55 PM (LSJmV)

311 We're keeping the enrollment error rate a secret because it's so awesomely low and we wouldn't want to embarass you teabaggers with how awesome it is!

I just follow our awesome, too awesome college grades path. We are very humble.

Posted by: King Barky the Liar at December 03, 2013 12:55 PM (WGm5T)

312
Hey did that stuttering clusterfuck ever come out and talk about his miserable failure today?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 03, 2013 12:55 PM (caCiW)

313 I hate to be a dick about it, but did you actually think giving your personal info to the govt was a good plan?

Yeah, I definitely wouldn't want the government knowing what my Social Security or Drivers License number is.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 03, 2013 12:56 PM (SY2Kh)

314 Ok, WTF is "dogfooding"? Forget it, I don't want to know. I'm guessing that, in the new, improved USSA; this will become standard rations for white, rIgHtWiNg!!111 H8rs!!!!eLeBinTy!!!! as we atone for all of our prior sins. We'll be doing penance out here in flyover country. Pssssssst. Pedigree Beef Stew.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2013 12:56 PM (xZxMD)

315 The acronym really stands for the "Kennedy-Kassebaum Permanent Healthcare EDI SME Employment Act of 1996", but yeah, it's HIPAA not HIPPA.

I love reviewing resumes of folks with HIPPA experience. So does File 13.

Posted by: akula51 at December 03, 2013 04:50 PM (sjuby)

 

 

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So you say.   I'm in the medical profession and everything I've seen on this as far as posters, memos,  and compliance have all spelled it  HIPPA.

Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 12:56 PM (9sMM9)

316 Hey did that stuttering clusterfuck ever come out and talk about his miserable failure today?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk

Yeah, and he does a mean Chip Diller impersonation, I'll tell you what.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 03, 2013 12:57 PM (uCNam)

317 If a hacker likes your name, ssn, dob and address, he'll keep your name, ssn, dob and address.
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Also please include a high definition photo of your house key.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 03, 2013 12:57 PM (Hx5uv)

318 I hate to be a dick about it, but did you actually think giving your personal info to the govt was a good plan?

If you're employed for wages, your employer reports your name, address, SSN (they issued it...), marital status, children under 18 or lack thereof, how much money you make, and how much they spent on what kind of group health insurance you have.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 03, 2013 12:57 PM (/kI1Q)

319 Not one Senate Democrat running for re-election in 2014 will have a "safe" seat.

Not one.

Posted by: mrp at December 03, 2013 12:57 PM (HjPtV)

320 331 but, but...grandma prefers cat food. Posted by: Countrysquire at December 03, 2013 04:55 PM (LSJmV) If you like your cat food, .....well, you know the rest, serf.

Posted by: Top. Men. at December 03, 2013 12:57 PM (ymlXZ)

321 Im sorry.  Guys.  I'm a redneck.

I'm firmly in the camp of "If it don't look right, shoot it.  If it twitches, shoot it three more times."

Posted by: tangonine at December 03, 2013 12:58 PM (x3YFz)

322 Lauren -


I admire you for your attention to their statement of faith.  I'll continue to pray for your husband and for your situation in regards to your insurance.  I can't imagine how stressful this has been for all of you.  Please know that there are people out there who care about what happens to you. 

Posted by: mama winger at December 03, 2013 12:58 PM (P6QsQ)

323 "334 I hate to be a dick about it, but did you actually think giving your personal info to the govt was a good plan?" When you have no other choice identity theft starts looking like the least bad bad option. Honestly, they can have our identity, hope they enjoy the 80K in student loan debt.

Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2013 12:59 PM (hFL/3)

324 So, I am one of those who is losing her insurance as of the 31st. I am going straight to my local Blue Cross office and getting a policy there. Not on their website. Not on the Obamadeath site. In person.

Am I eligible for subsidies? Who knows? I am self employed and my income varies. However, I will waive my "subsidies" if they exist, to keep my identity.

Posted by: shibumi at December 03, 2013 12:59 PM (25HWz)

325 Andrea Tantric on FNC. I approve.

Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 03, 2013 01:01 PM (ZPrif)

326 You get what you pay for.

Posted by: "One-Bid" Obama at December 03, 2013 01:01 PM (DrC22)

327 Im sorry. Guys. I'm a redneck. I'm firmly in the camp of "If it don't look right, shoot it. If it twitches, shoot it three more times." Awesome bumper sticker material

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2013 01:01 PM (xZxMD)

328 336 So you say. I'm in the medical profession and everything I've seen on this as far as posters, memos, and compliance have all spelled it HIPPA. Uh, no. It's the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. Definintely HIPAA. I've been in healthcare IT for far too long.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 03, 2013 01:01 PM (sjuby)

329 Thank you, Mama Winger, I truly appreciate it.

Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2013 01:01 PM (hFL/3)

330 343 Im sorry. Guys. I'm a redneck. I'm firmly in the camp of "If it don't look right, shoot it. If it twitches, shoot it three more times." Posted by: tangonine at December 03, 2013 04:58 PM (x3YFz) Just don't forget the beer.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 03, 2013 01:03 PM (ymlXZ)

331 Shibumi, if you don't have any major pre-existing conditions you may be able to get one of the heritage policies that are typically much cheaper than the Obamacare compliant policies. That's what we would do were it not for all of our issues. The only catch is you have to get it in effect prior to Dec 31st.

Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2013 01:03 PM (hFL/3)

332 off topic, but ted rall seems to have gotten his head our of his ass, if only briefly:

http://www.gocomics.com/tedrall/2013/12/02#.Up5SGCcvmLk

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See also http://tinyurl.com/lxu2hjr. It's an anti-Obama cartoon by Rall that is, get this, causing him to be accused of racism for making Obama look like a chimp.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 03, 2013 01:03 PM (Hx5uv)

333 So, I am one of those who is losing her insurance as of the 31st. I am going straight to my local Blue Cross office and getting a policy there. Not on their website. Not on the Obamadeath site. In person. Depending on where you are, you might be able to avoid ObamaCare for another year. I still see Aetna listing Dec 15 as a start date in Texas. My extremely ill-informed understanding is that the plans bought on Dec 15 2013 will last until Dec 15 2014 under current law.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 03, 2013 01:04 PM (QF8uk)

334  Andrea Tantric on FNC. I approve.

Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 03, 2013 05:01 PM (ZPrif)

 

 

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Ah, Andrea Tarantula.

Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 01:04 PM (9sMM9)

335 What if Barry had a press conference and no one cared?

Posted by: mrp at December 03, 2013 01:06 PM (HjPtV)

336 Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 03, 2013 05:03 PM (ymlXZ) Yup.... I'm not shootin seriously until I ask someone to hold muh beer...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 03, 2013 01:06 PM (lZBBB)

337 I don't believe this.

If there's one thing the administration is good at, it's security.

Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at December 03, 2013 01:06 PM (bvtgt)

338 Hey, healthcare.gov says it can add inches to my penis in just 30 days!

Posted by: --- at December 03, 2013 01:06 PM (MMC8r)

339 And throw in a criminal penalty for responsible officials should they choose to conceal such breaches Ha ha, you make joke. This administration doesn't give a shit about criminal penalties, Holder works for the MAN.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 01:07 PM (0FSuD)

340 Holder works for the MAN.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 03, 2013 05:07 PM (0FSuD)

Eric Holder is a ********* ******* and he can **** my ****

Posted by: tangonine at December 03, 2013 01:11 PM (x3YFz)

341

They are good at keeping  secure the stuff that is important, like the WH visitor logs, the list of unions and crony corporations waived from ObamaCare, photography of WH events.  You know, stuff that needs *real* security.

Posted by: Gideon7 at December 03, 2013 01:11 PM (CkCQU)

342 Amazing that Obama has managed to keep his own identity information locked down *super-tight* and has implemented the what is in effect the destruction of personal privacy.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2013 01:11 PM (JRmiD)

343

Hmmmm.  Looks like the  bottom is going to fall out of the nice weather we've been having in OKC starting tomorrow night.

 

Winter storm warning already issued.

Posted by: Soona at December 03, 2013 01:12 PM (9sMM9)

344 Yeah, Lifelock guy was bankrupt and stumbled on that idea and is raking in money hand over fist by charging people per month something they could do themselves by sending out three copies of one form letter to each credit reporting agency. Whatever he charges, above the cost of three stamps is basicallyprofit.

Posted by: UWP at December 03, 2013 04:57 PM (fdXMW)

 

Or you could just periodically call one of the credit reporting agencies and report the possibility of an  identity  theft and put a credit alert on for a year for no charge. 

Posted by: polynikes self proclaimed king of walked into a bar jokes at December 03, 2013 01:12 PM (m2CN7)

345 364 Amazing that Obama has managed to keep his own identity information locked down *super-tight* and has implemented the what is in effect the destruction of personal privacy.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2013 05:11 PM (JRmiD)

Welcome to 6 years ago.  We knew Bush's GPA within hours of him announcing for presidency.  Try getting O'Commie's transcripts.

Good luck.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Posted by: tangonine at December 03, 2013 01:14 PM (x3YFz)

346 Can't some adult say to all this:  "Stop!"  Roberts?  Can't you dummy up some kind of continuing jurisdiction doctrine to enable you to monitor stealth tax laws to ensure that they at least do what they're supposed to do?

Posted by: SFGoth at December 03, 2013 01:15 PM (VxV3H)

347 Akula --   I thought there was a HIPPA  Health Info Privacy Protection Act.   HIPAA would be the COBRA stuff where you can buy the insurance you had through your employer no?   

Posted by: palerider at December 03, 2013 01:19 PM (dkExz)

348 Be better if her name was Andrea Doria Titanic...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2013 01:20 PM (B9up3)

349 Owner of the Abilene, TX Schlotzsky's shuts the place down to put the workers through 'attitude readjustment.'  This guy needs to be put in charge of the near Sisyphean task of sorting out 404Care.

http://tinyurl.com/ml7fgr8

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 03, 2013 01:24 PM (B9up3)

350 Understanding Health Information Privacy The HIPAA Privacy Rule provides federal protections for individually identifiable health information held by covered entities and their business associates and gives patients an array of rights with respect to that information. At the same time, the Privacy Rule is balanced so that it permits the disclosure of health information needed for patient care and other important purposes. The Security Rule specifies a series of administrative, physical, and technical safeguards for covered entities and their business associates to use to assure the confidentiality, integrity, and availability of electronic protected health information. Source: http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/ I see a couple places out there that reference a HIPPA, but it's my opinion that they do so very incorrectly. The above is what comes up when you Google "health information privacy protection act", fwiw. I've worked with CMS for a decade and a half or so, so I don't always trust their website, but I've worked in and around this legislation nearly 20 years. When I go to HHS.GOV and type in "HIPPA" in their search box, they ask me one simple question: "Did you mean: HIPAA?"

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 03, 2013 01:25 PM (sjuby)

351 Sisyphean...nice

Posted by: fastfreefall at December 03, 2013 01:26 PM (Tz35j)

352 OK.  I'm now edumacated on that abbreviation.

Posted by: palerider at December 03, 2013 01:28 PM (dkExz)

353 Conspiracy theorizing but does anyone think this is all part of some greater plan by Obama and his Alinsky followers?

Posted by: Fester at December 03, 2013 03:04 PM (4X1PW)

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