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November 21, 2013

Sewage doesnÂ’t lie
— Purple Avenger

A small diversion from the never ending Obamacare debacle...enjoy.

...People, however, are less than honest when asked about things like their illicit drug use. Each year, the National Survey on Drug Use and Health knocks on the doors of some 70,000 Americans asking them detailed questions about their drug use. The data are undoubtedly valuable, but even the surveyÂ’s director admits theyÂ’re not capturing the complete picture. Â“The more sensitive and deviant the behavior, the more likely it is to be underreported,Â” ...
...An analysis of sewage samples at an Oslo ski resort, for example, found three times as much cocaine the Friday night of a season-closing party compared to a normal weekend. According to a separate week-long sampling of 19 European cities done last year, cocaine and ecstasy spiked during weekends. If that all sounds obvious enough, hereÂ’s something else: The same European researchers found ecstasy levels on Utrecht to be off the charts, more than 10 times higher than previously measured in that city. Two days before the study, it turns out, police had raided an illegal ecstasy manufacturing facility in Utrecht. Sewer epidemiology may be able to detect drug busts, too, due to the frantic disposal of incriminating evidence...
...A 2005 Italian study of the river Po, the countryÂ’s longest, found levels of cocaine consistent with twice the estimated national usage...

Suppose some boffins were to create a robotic sewer crawling drug detector? It could sniff its way along down a street's sewer line looking for high concentration traces at the inlet pipes for each address. That data would likely be deemed just as "public" by the courts as garbage is now and could wind up being enough probable cause for a some sort of raid.

Flushing your stash may not work in the future. There may be a robot in the sewer sitting there before the raid even happens waiting to catch more than your morning deuce.

On the plus side, it may be possible at some point in the future for a sewer crawling robot to sense various cancers and diseases that are detectable in urine. ex. Now there's a urine test for prostate cancer that's apparently quite specific.

... "The evidence shows that if TMPRSS2:ERG RNA is detectable at high levels in urine, a man likely has prostate cancer, whether or not his biopsy is positive for cancer," said Tomlins. (Because biopsies typically sample less than 1 percent of the prostate gland, cancers can be missed, even high-grade cancers.)...

Obama talked about "bending the curve", which was all bullshit, but an army of cheap sewer crawling screen-bots really could bend the cost curve down on some things by catching bad stuff very very early.

Its a brave (and stinky) new world

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 05:13 AM | Comments (93)
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1 I wonder what went through Obamas head when he put that medal around Wild Billy Clintons neck?

Posted by: 7 Days in May at November 21, 2013 05:15 AM (j6DTo)

2 even high-grade cancers

High-grade? "Oh yeah, that's a quality cancer you got there."

I love translations.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 21, 2013 05:17 AM (ZKzrr)

3 @1 "A few years ago, I'd have been getting his coffee."
Absolutely looked like a manservant, didn't he?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 21, 2013 05:17 AM (xq1UY)

4 We need Horde Engineer Type Morons to perfect the PooCinerator line of Firestorm based waste disposal...

imbibe in comfort knowing the traces are destroyed.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 21, 2013 05:17 AM (9jfyN)

5 Oy. Just get a urine test. Druggies will just use someone else's loo.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 21, 2013 05:18 AM (IXrOn)

6 "Flushing your stash may not work in the future. There may be a robot in the sewer sitting there before the raid even happens waiting to catch more than your morning deuce." Seven words: Septic field

Posted by: NotCoach at November 21, 2013 05:18 AM (rsudF)

7 Sigh...contrast to the boondoggle in Texas last week where some federal "researchers" offer you $10 bucks to give up a "voluntary" saliva and blood sample. http://tinyurl.com/m8vs5t9

Posted by: MMW at November 21, 2013 05:20 AM (kt/h1)

8 Brave New Whirled.

Posted by: dan a nj con formerly known as dana nj con at November 21, 2013 05:20 AM (wmU4G)

9 If the poo don't fit you must acquit...

//Zombie Johnny Cochrane

Posted by: sven10077 at November 21, 2013 05:20 AM (9jfyN)

10 I'll wait on this prostate cancer test thing. PSA has been an unmitigated disaster, but perhaps this won't have the same problems. (Those problems being that any one of several things that aren't cancer, like having had sex within the last 24-48 hours can cause PSA to spike. 4/5 PSA results are false positive and of the other 1/5 a remarkable percentage aren't lethal cancers.)

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 21, 2013 05:20 AM (GaqMa)

11 The evidence shows that if TMPRSS2:ERG RNA is detectable at high levels in urine, a man likely has prostate cancer

erg is a prostate cancer?

Sounds about right!

Posted by: EC at November 21, 2013 05:20 AM (GQ8sn)

12 I dunno, Sewage and Obama would seem to have a lot in common.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 21, 2013 05:20 AM (bb5+k)

13 >>> an army of cheap sewer crawling screen-bots really could bend the cost curve down on some things by catching bad stuff very very early. Things like this are why I read this smart Mil-blog.

Posted by: fluffy at November 21, 2013 05:20 AM (Ua6T/)

14 Cocaine Recovery plants as part of every sewer system, we'll be rich!

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 21, 2013 05:21 AM (ZshNr)

15 Suppose some boffins were to create a robotic sewer crawling drug detector? It could sniff its way along down a street's sewer line....

Hahahahaha.....

Posted by: EC at November 21, 2013 05:21 AM (GQ8sn)

16 >>> erg is a prostate cancer? He can be a pain in the balls.

Posted by: fluffy at November 21, 2013 05:22 AM (Ua6T/)

17 I got a septic tank bitches, my flushed drugs become my fertilizer.

Posted by: mugiwara at November 21, 2013 05:22 AM (W7ffl)

18 tsrblke,

Did you see my last post in the THC thread?

Posted by: EC at November 21, 2013 05:23 AM (GQ8sn)

19 This will put honest Ewoks out of work.

Posted by: President Obama at November 21, 2013 05:23 AM (CeNUw)

20 I, for one, do not welcome our new robotic sewer crawling overlords. I am very concerned over that piece in the sidebar about the totes voluntarily lulz roadblock I mean voluntary participation in the survey yup yup re: drunk driving where the fine print revealed that passive air analysis was being done the second you stopped and without any type of consent. Fuck. You. Mother. Fuckers. At some point, some person is going to need to be held personally liable for this shit and lose everything s/he owns in order to get those who are hiding behind official immunity to stop this shit.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 21, 2013 05:23 AM (VtjlW)

21 We should test the crap spewing from the President daily. If his actions are a clue, the cocaine readings will be off the chart.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 21, 2013 05:24 AM (6ahup)

22 Meth dealers will have users pee into a bucket, because about 75% of the meth that goes in comes out unmetabolized, as I understand it. I guess if you're willing to shoot meth, having it laced with tweaker pee isn't a big deterrent.

Posted by: PabloD at November 21, 2013 05:25 AM (DbmtT)

I just love the way that the people heading up all of these "studies" automatically assume that if the results don't match up to their expectations then people must, MUST be hiding something.

Rather than stating that the findings surprised them, but taking them at face value.

We had some of these people show up at our door many years ago, doing a study about drinking patterns. The way that the questions were asked told me all I needed to know about how the results of these studies are reported.

"Do you drink?" - in which it was explained to me that if I had ever consumed so much as ONE alcoholic beverage, then I was considered a "drinker", and thus must answer "Yes".

Never mind that on average I have consumed less than 4 oz. of alcohol in any given year for the past 53 years - in the eyes of this study, I was considered a "drinker".

I learned then and there just how much credence to give to most "studies" - especially the sociological ones.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 21, 2013 05:25 AM (PZ6/M)

24 What? The Deuce?

Posted by: Stewie Griffin at November 21, 2013 05:25 AM (4mTwY)

25 O/T, Bill Ayers finally admits the obvious (he ghost-wrote Obuttfuck's shitty book "Dreams of my Father": http://tinyurl.com/mwld5at

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 21, 2013 05:26 AM (KSjsb)

26 Just imagine you had to pick corn and eat from feces to survive... That was part of our 'White Folks" History.. Andersonville Prison.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at November 21, 2013 05:26 AM (j6DTo)

27 Doing work American sewer alligators won't do.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, upholstering his throne of skulls at November 21, 2013 05:26 AM (naUcP)

28 alex, now that you brought road blocks up, There was an article the other day where a place in Texas!(OMG) set up road blocks and was talking saliva and blood dna samples..

I wondered how that could have been legal and why everyone isn't screaming their heads off.

Posted by: willow at November 21, 2013 05:26 AM (nqBYe)

29 Suppose some boffins were to create a robotic sewer crawling drug detector? It could sniff its way along down a street's sewer line looking for high concentration traces at the inlet pipes for each address. You have lost a country when beer, brats, & sauerkraut are outlawed.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2013 05:26 AM (ix+5k)

30 i had thought to run to Texas if things got shitty.

now not so much.

Posted by: willow at November 21, 2013 05:26 AM (nqBYe)

31 Never mind that on average I have consumed less than 4 oz. of alcohol in any given year for the past 53 years - in the eyes of this study, I was considered a "drinker".

Don't get me started on how the CDC codes alcohol use so they can pathologize normal human behavior. (Is that a word? It is now.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 21, 2013 05:27 AM (ZKzrr)

32 Face Sized Spider ain't got shit on me...........so to speak.

Posted by: Sewer Crawling Robot at November 21, 2013 05:27 AM (MBqvE)

33 Oh shit.

(hopes I am not off topic)

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 21, 2013 05:27 AM (wNF3N)

34 Call me the human detector. I'm always two steps ahead of you extremist wing-nuts.

Posted by: Martin Bashir at November 21, 2013 05:27 AM (6ahup)

35 It all flows downhill.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 21, 2013 05:28 AM (VjL9S)

36 >>There may be a robot in the sewer sitting there before the raid even happens waiting to catch more than your morning deuce. You don't want to know what I've found. I need robot therapy now.

Posted by: Barrel-Sniffing Robot at November 21, 2013 05:28 AM (SUKHu)

37 Excellent. Get the scientists working on the Porta-Sniff AssRooter Shitbot technology posthaste.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 21, 2013 05:28 AM (INAoP)

38 " We need Horde Engineer Type Morons to perfect the PooCinerator line of Firestorm based waste disposal..."

Easy.
The DD-963 (Spruance class) destroyers had a fresh water/vacuum flush/incinerator toilet system that made poop into ash.

Horrific to maintain, but at the end of the day, your sh*t didn't stink.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 21, 2013 05:28 AM (NDA7a)

39 There may be a robot in the sewer sitting there before the raid even happens waiting to catch more than your morning deuce.

What if you are sitting there on the toilet, doing your morning routine, waiting for #2 to drop, and the robot decides to be "proactive" and just climb up the plumbing to give you a "how's your father?"

Posted by: EC at November 21, 2013 05:29 AM (GQ8sn)

40 Research!

Posted by: A guy at the bottom of an outhouse at November 21, 2013 05:29 AM (6ahup)

Heh.

Back when I worked at MSFC, one day the men's room had a new, temporary, um, plumbing addition: a five gallon plastic gas can with a funnel on top. This was in the early days of the ISS design, and one of the companies in the building was doing research on, um, recycling. Think "Yesterday's coffee today!"

Anyway, the joke going around was that it was a mass drug test and everybody would be canned if it came back positive for anything.

/engineer humor

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at November 21, 2013 05:29 AM (0HooB)

42 The DD-963 (Spruance class) destroyers had a fresh water/vacuum flush/incinerator toilet system that made poop into ash.

Sometimes I feel bad about all the time I waste here, but I learn so much...

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 21, 2013 05:30 AM (ZKzrr)

43 RE: the sidebar post on 'Freedom of the Press'.

The first step in understanding elements of the Constitution is to view it thru the Founder's eyes, and the context of the society they lived in; AND, those events that compelled the Founders to set up guidelines (and limits) as to the nature of government, and it's relationship with the citizenry... in short: the 'do's' and 'dont's'.

If you take the time to think about it, the context of 'freedom of the press' is fairly clear, AND runs concurrent with 'freedom of speech'. The latter refers to the ability to voice one's views and opinions; typically on the subjects of governance, and the conduct of government (whether it be an individual, or the institution as a whole). The former, is the concurrent right to transcribe those views and opinion into printed matter so as to better disseminate them.

In that context, you have the right to criticize 'official' behavior (or policies), and the equally important right to spread said views to other citizens.

My interpretation comes from the viewpoint that the Constitution is NOT a 'stand-alone' document! It is actually 'Part B' of the Declaration of Independence (it being Part A). One gives context to other; and so it goes with the chaining together the rights of free speech, and a free press... one is pointless without the other.

As for the stinky robots... I foresee the repair of said bots being handled by the 'you drew the short straw' method of selection.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 21, 2013 05:30 AM (lJaja)

44 Camera in every home. Shit sniffer in every sewer.

Posted by: RWC at November 21, 2013 05:30 AM (fWAjv)

45 26 Just imagine you had to pick corn and eat from feces to survive... -- -- Second harvest, Baby! -- -- That was part of our 'White Folks" History.. Andersonville Prison. -- -- That's why Barky skipped Gettysburg, White Folks History. Men suffered and died in the cause of ending slavery. Gettysburg commemorations have been a time of reconciliation. Barky HATES that shit.

Posted by: fluffy at November 21, 2013 05:30 AM (Ua6T/)

46 Posted by: EC at November 21, 2013 09:23 AM (GQ8sn) I did, (and I think you know that.) If only I could bullshit science better!

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 21, 2013 05:31 AM (GaqMa)

47 so how much ability to clean this up do water treatment facilities have ?

Posted by: willow at November 21, 2013 05:31 AM (nqBYe)

48 alex, now that you brought road blocks up, There was an article the other day where a place in Texas!(OMG) set up road blocks and was talking saliva and blood dna samples.. I wondered how that could have been legal and why everyone isn't screaming their heads off. We are. It was a federally supported study done by a third party (private) using off duty Ft. Worth po po. Egg on everyone's faces with pitchfork tines being sharpened.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2013 05:32 AM (ix+5k)

49 Ayers must be unhappy with Obama if he's chosen now to stab him in the back with a revelation like that and add another scandal to the pile.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 21, 2013 05:32 AM (Xlbr8)

50 25 O/T, Bill Ayers finally admits the obvious (he ghost-wrote Obuttfuck's shitty book "Dreams of my Father": http://tinyurl.com/mwld5at Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 21, 2013 09:26 AM (KSjsb) You mean the book which convinced everyone that Obama was a fricken genius and thereby got him elected? Yeah, Obama is a dumb fuck who has never accomplished anything in his life.

Posted by: D-Lamp at November 21, 2013 05:32 AM (bb5+k)

51 alex, now that you brought road blocks up, There was an article the other day where a place in Texas!(OMG) set up road blocks and was talking saliva and blood dna samples.. I wondered how that could have been legal and why everyone isn't screaming their heads off. Posted by: willow at November 21, 2013 09:26 AM (nqBYe) Someone else mentioned it above as well and it's in the sidebar. It's legal(ish) because it's "voluntary". And it wasn't a road block, no, no, no, no, people were just asked to pull over there please as each car was stopped one by one. No one ever said *wink wink* that you had to stop, if the driver assumed that, well, that's on the driver. Now, all of that is bullshit, of course, but that's how the game is played. The passive alcohol sensor without any consent is extremely problematic though. What would have happened if someone was over the limit? Off duty cops were there, presumably that person would have been arrested. If not, then the people doing the survey just allowed a known impaired driver continue driving.
The whole thing sticks like a sewer robot.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 21, 2013 05:32 AM (VtjlW)

52 Oh sure. And where, pray tell, are the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles going to live after you evict them from their home so you can send in your robotic sewer-dwelling shitbots?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/i][/u] at November 21, 2013 05:33 AM (4df7R)

53 What if you are sitting there on the toilet, doing your morning routine, waiting for #2 to drop, and the robot decides to be "proactive" and just climb up the plumbing to give you a "how's your father?" Mooooooooon River!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2013 05:34 AM (ix+5k)

54 Dump up

Posted by: Sewer Crawling Robot at November 21, 2013 05:34 AM (MBqvE)

55 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 21, 2013 09:32 AM (VtjlW) No. It's my turn to twitch on the ground. Common Rule: 45CFR46 (NIH version, the various other agencies use the same text), ICH protocols, FFS, Nuremberg Code. While it's true that only the common rule is actually enforceable in the US, the other's are supposed to guide the interpretation of it. This was in violation of every one of those.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 21, 2013 05:35 AM (GaqMa)

56 If only I could bullshit science better!

Can you check boxes?

Posted by: EC at November 21, 2013 05:35 AM (GQ8sn)

57 Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 21, 2013 09:20 AM (GaqMa)

A good friend got a second opinion when he got the impression that his urologist was a little too excited about operating on his prostate cancer (high PSA and 2/12 positive biopsy)

He went to Sloan Kettering, which has a good urology department, where he was told, essentially, "Are you fucking insane? Don't do a damned thing. In 10 years the science will be completely different."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2013 05:35 AM (oJ5Fd)

58 rick, in Texas of all places.

voluntary? if police signal to pull over, pulling over is voluntary?

i guess i could look at the ashtray for a moment and not see the police.
wonder if that would be allowed.

Posted by: willow at November 21, 2013 05:36 AM (nqBYe)

59 pow, pow.

pow , pow. pow!

Posted by: willow at November 21, 2013 05:37 AM (nqBYe)

60 so how much ability to clean this up do water treatment facilities have ?

Posted by: willow at November 21, 2013 09:31 AM (nqBYe)

Probably not much at all, other than the filters they use. But the dilution makes it a non-issue.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2013 05:37 AM (oJ5Fd)

61 Don't get me started on how the CDC codes alcohol use so they can pathologize normal human behavior. (Is that a word? It is now.) Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at November 21, 2013 09:27 AM (ZKzrr) Pathologize is a perfectly cromulent word. Hey. let's go out for a nice dinner. We'll have a pre-dinner martini at the bar, then a glass of wine with dinner and then an aperitif. Oh. Look. We're binge drinkers.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at November 21, 2013 05:37 AM (VtjlW)

62 willow, new post up!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at November 21, 2013 05:37 AM (0HooB)

63 alex, and probably charge you for being sensored on your ticket!

Posted by: willow at November 21, 2013 05:37 AM (nqBYe)

64 ty BackwardsBoy.

Posted by: willow at November 21, 2013 05:38 AM (nqBYe)

65 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2013 09:35 AM (oJ5Fd) 2/12? Isn't that a higher is worse score? (Or do I have it backwards again.) Given the damage even caused by your typical biopsy, we should not be attacking prostate cancer as aggressively as we are.

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 21, 2013 05:40 AM (GaqMa)

66 Let me just say that prostate cancer is a more likely diagnosis in men than breast cancer in women. Death rates are very near to the same.

Women have better propagandists.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 21, 2013 05:42 AM (wNF3N)

67 BTW: Things are about to get nasty in Texas.

Take a few years to hit.

Why?

Heard yesterday the JEF has/will add 16,000 IRS auditors just for TX.

Now:
1) What do you think they're going to do?
2) There are not 16,000 unemployed, qualified people available, but he does have a good OFA list of preferred applicants.

I'm sure that story is true in every red state.

I don't think we have even come close to the level of spite, intimidation, retaliation and harassment he intends to unleash.

The GOP could have--and still can--win a huge victory against Obaaamacare.

A specific bill that defunds the additional IRS agents--it is such a huge, easy win, only the GOP could fuck it up.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 21, 2013 05:42 AM (VjL9S)

68 voluntary? if police signal to pull over, pulling over is voluntary? i guess i could look at the ashtray for a moment and not see the police. wonder if that would be allowed. Look the cop dead in the eye. Ask two questions. 1. Am I under arrest? 2. Am I free to go? He KNOWS where that is headed. A no answer to both is considered kidnapping and lethal force is allowed.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2013 05:43 AM (ix+5k)

69 @68: 1.The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion... Nuremberg Code. For some 66 years now this has been the baseline. Something is fishy here. What IRB approved this? (As required by the various research acts?)

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 21, 2013 05:46 AM (GaqMa)

70 38 Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 21, 2013 09:28 AM (NDA7a)

sounds like a plan and of some utility for other types of human waste

Posted by: sven10077 at November 21, 2013 05:46 AM (9jfyN)

71 Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 21, 2013 09:40 AM (GaqMa)

12 samples taken, of which two showed cancer or pre-cancerous cells.

And I agree about the biopsies. It's incredibly invasive (my friend got a nasty infection requiring intravenous antibiotics), and may spill cancerous cells into the blood or surrounding tissues.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2013 05:46 AM (oJ5Fd)

72 The incinerating toilet already exists. Had to use one at my radar site on a mountaintop that had no water supply. If you had a bad burrito for lunch and had the trots...you were in trouble. Use it more than once an hour and your dangly parts would get overly warm.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at November 21, 2013 05:48 AM (u1jJP)

so in other words,

The shit just got real.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 21, 2013 05:50 AM (SO2Q8)

74 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2013 09:46 AM (oJ5Fd) Eh sorry, I thought it was a Gleason Score. Yeah still, given what we know about prostate cancer now even, wanting to cut is aggressive to say the least. But I'm not surprised. I think I told the story about my Law class where we had to watch the "patient education tool." Unsurprisingly, the tool made "watchful waiting" (close monitoring and possible drug therapy to look for changes) sound like "palliative care." And was heavily biased towards radiation therapy (which isn't without drawbacks.) Less surprisingly, it was sponsored by a company that made radiation therapy machines (although it was supposedly cleared by the Urological society.)

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 21, 2013 05:51 AM (GaqMa)

75 2even high-grade cancers

High-grade? "Oh yeah, that's a quality cancer you got there."

I love translations.

Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer

---

Good news is, after Common Core, all cancers will be high grade

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 21, 2013 05:52 AM (SO2Q8)

an army of cheap sewer crawling screen-bots really could bend the cost curve down on some things by catching bad stuff very very early.

---

I've have them whipped up momentarily

Posted by: Skynet at November 21, 2013 05:54 AM (SO2Q8)

77 OK, horde, since I don't know which thread everyone is in: I'm peacing out. It's time to prep for the deer season. I'll see you all on the other side. (Hopefully with deer!)

Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 21, 2013 05:54 AM (GaqMa)

78 1 I wonder what went through Obamas head when he put that medal around Wild Billy Clintons neck? Posted by: 7 Days in May at November 21, 2013 09:15 AM (j6DTo) The whistling windÂ… as usual.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at November 21, 2013 05:55 AM (HsTG8)

79 Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No really!) at November 21, 2013 09:54 AM (GaqMa) Make Gaia cry: kill a Bambi for us!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at November 21, 2013 05:55 AM (HsTG8)

Or that study that found that people who drink just one diet soda a week had a 67% risk of developing Type II Diabetes, while those who drank sugar-sweetened beverages - no matter how many - had a 0% risk of developing it.

The researchers couldn't understand their results, and were determined to do "more studies", because the premise of their study - that drinking sugar-sweetened drinks leads to higher TIID incidence - was not only overwhelmingly proven false, but in fact the opposite was shown to occur.

http://is.gd/56u60W

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at November 21, 2013 05:57 AM (PZ6/M)

81 I'd like to see the results of the shit sniffing bot after it sniffs the White House sewer.

Posted by: torabora at November 21, 2013 06:00 AM (WLbax)

82 Of course there could (paging Zombie Clancy!) always be a terrorist sewer bot....

Posted by: torabora at November 21, 2013 06:03 AM (WLbax)

83 Sewer epidemiology may be able to detect drug busts, too, due to the frantic disposal of incriminating evidence...

Great. They can detect a drug bust after the drug bust. Genius.

Posted by: Dang at November 21, 2013 06:06 AM (YWXTN)

84 Let me just say that prostate cancer is a more likely diagnosis in men than breast cancer in women. Death rates are very near to the same.

More men with prostate cancer die of concurrent heart disease than from the cancer.

You're a lousy propagandist.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 21, 2013 06:09 AM (ZKzrr)

85 Or that study that found that people who drink just one diet soda a week had a 67% risk of developing Type II Diabetes

Oh look, they proved people with a family history of diabetes are more likely to drink diet sodas.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at November 21, 2013 06:11 AM (ZKzrr)

86 Have I mentioned that I don't have a prostate?

Taken out three years ago.

If nothing else, from full to empty bladder averages 10 seconds.
That includes unreeling,and restowing.

Comes in handy as hell during football games.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 21, 2013 06:13 AM (NDA7a)

87 The Obama Administration is more than welcome to sample my deuce each and every day.

Posted by: Fritz at November 21, 2013 06:18 AM (TKFmG)

88 Purp, with all due respect, but if I want a robot analyzing my urine for stuff, I'll buy a kit and pee into it. The sewer-rat approach is 'way too much a liberal solution for me: expanding the power of the state to watch and control us *for our own good*.

Posted by: Brown Line at November 21, 2013 06:25 AM (VrNoa)

89 If drug crimes are worth sending SWAT through the door why isn't it worth sending a guy into the sewer with a gas mask and a vial?

Posted by: DaveA at November 21, 2013 06:29 AM (DL2i+)

90 expanding the power of the state to watch and control us *for our own good*.

The "power" to look at sewage already exists. Once its flushed and into the system its no longer yours, like garbage put to the curb.

You'd be free to ignore any notification letters sent to an address. The couldn't ID a specific person anyway with doing some expensive DNA match anyway, and that would blowup any possible cost advantage

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 21, 2013 07:18 AM (Xlbr8)

91 why isn't it worth sending a guy into the sewer with a gas mask and a vial?

It probably is in some cases. There's places in my neighborhood that have been dealing drugs for over 10 years now that the cops don't bust because they're pretty discrete and avoid any overt above ground probable cause.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at November 21, 2013 07:21 AM (Xlbr8)

92 Remember that move "The Island". They had toilets which analyzed your urine and told you what you should and should not be eating.

Posted by: DavidM at November 21, 2013 07:27 AM (R/e5b)

93 There may be a robot in the sewer sitting there before the raid even happens waiting to catch more than your morning deuce. Given the rather toxic and caustic nature of my morning deuce, I hope the 'bots are rated for hostile environments.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at November 21, 2013 11:29 AM (1hM1d)

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