April 26, 2013
— JohnE. The original annoyed me. So I digitally remastered it.
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Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 04:22 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 04:24 PM (INYkK)
Posted by: Long Time Lurker at April 26, 2013 04:24 PM (fyjiS)
Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at April 26, 2013 04:25 PM (jucos)
Posted by: sybilll at April 26, 2013 04:26 PM (/enLT)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 26, 2013 04:26 PM (BDH94)
Posted by: Liberty Lover at April 26, 2013 04:27 PM (eQ4W/)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 04:27 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 04:29 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 26, 2013 04:29 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 26, 2013 04:31 PM (jucos)
Make those graphics available for download. Nothing a color printer and lots of extra red ink can't handle. Make it go viral.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 26, 2013 04:33 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: firecaptain at April 26, 2013 04:33 PM (L8Qa7)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 26, 2013 04:33 PM (HDgX3)
Posted by: I'm soooo post term. at April 26, 2013 04:33 PM (9sjmH)
President Infanticide Obama will not be amused.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 04:34 PM (xk0Xg)
Might be better with Nippers than hemostats
Posted by: willow at April 26, 2013 08:28 PM (nqBYe)
Garden shears!
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 26, 2013 04:35 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at April 26, 2013 04:36 PM (++kZl)
Posted by: OCD Con at April 26, 2013 04:36 PM (ozmjY)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 04:36 PM (2TMW2)
It seemed to be making fun of the left more than the right.
Posted by: gastorgrab at April 26, 2013 04:36 PM (FX38i)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 26, 2013 04:37 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: DM at April 26, 2013 04:37 PM (6qQrr)
Posted by: steevy at April 26, 2013 04:38 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 04:38 PM (2TMW2)
Posted by: sTevo at April 26, 2013 04:38 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo
What do you mean by that? I don't believe at the moment of conception = a child. At 5 months, YES!
There needs to be a discussion on the right about what exactly is pro-life and pro-choice.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 04:38 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 26, 2013 04:38 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: gracepmc at April 26, 2013 04:39 PM (rznx3)
It seems to use the magazine of an AK, but the front sights of an AR.
Posted by: gastorgrab at April 26, 2013 04:39 PM (FX38i)
http://tinyurl.com/ctz6rul
Even the title conveys what is going on at the Gosnell garden shop.
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 26, 2013 04:39 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 04:40 PM (2TMW2)
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 08:38 PM (xk0Xg)
Any 'point' you choose is arbitrary. It's conception or Gosnell. There is no magical middle ground.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 04:40 PM (uhAkr)
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Is the image plagiarized from a soviet poster?
Posted by: gastorgrab at April 26, 2013 04:40 PM (FX38i)
What do you mean by that? I don't believe at the moment of conception = a child. At 5 months, YES!
There needs to be a discussion on the right about what exactly is pro-life and pro-choice
You obviously don't have children.
Posted by: Infidel at April 26, 2013 04:41 PM (gqEUi)
There needs to be a discussion on the right about what exactly is pro-life and pro-choice.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 08:38 PM (xk0Xg)
Tell me then, HOW does life begin?
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 26, 2013 04:42 PM (X6akg)
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If there is life, I am pro. In favor of. Not going to stop it from being alive. Not going to stop its heart. Not going to shed its blood.
Anything else?
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 04:42 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: spypeach at April 26, 2013 04:42 PM (6xG9/)
Posted by: Space Savior Zero at April 26, 2013 04:42 PM (I88Jc)
Overall the original is classic early Soviet art style.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 04:42 PM (2TMW2)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 26, 2013 08:33 PM (HDgX3
How is it "effective?" Having lost a baby in the second trimester, and giving birth to a son nearly three weeks early, when, in your mind, is a baby a "choice?"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 04:42 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: zsasz at April 26, 2013 04:43 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 04:44 PM (2TMW2)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelis
So a few cells the head of a pin is THE SAME as a 6 month fetus? REALLY?
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 04:44 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: Jmel at April 26, 2013 04:44 PM (9tSXa)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 26, 2013 04:45 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 26, 2013 04:45 PM (jucos)
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 04:45 PM (P6QsQ)
Except for rape, there IS a choice. It just happens weeks before TFG and Planned Parenthood advertise.
Posted by: The Q at April 26, 2013 04:45 PM (XQzGn)
Posted by: spypeach at April 26, 2013 08:42 PM (6xG9/)
I remember when I saw my son's heartbeat for the first time on an ultrasound.
My wife was four weeks pregnant. He was the size of the head of a pin.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 04:45 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: spypeach at April 26, 2013 08:42 PM (6xG9/)
Ten weeks. Of course, it is a being with unique DNA at conception.
Posted by: Ook? at April 26, 2013 04:45 PM (OQpzc)
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 26, 2013 04:46 PM (MhA4j)
It was like 15 drugged up old people and fat asses.
More reporters and police than protesters.
Posted by: toby928© at April 26, 2013 04:46 PM (QupBk)
Yeah, Fairey loves "appropriating" (sneer quotes) that shit.
The use of the fascist eagle from the National Recovery Administration in an attempt to demonize was curious, though...I thought proggs thought government jobs were good things....only good job's a government job, they'll tell you, when you suggest cutting taxes and regulations on businesses so they can hire people...
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at April 26, 2013 04:47 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 04:47 PM (2TMW2)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 26, 2013 04:47 PM (qyfb5)
So distinguishable from a Klan rally only by the costumes.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at April 26, 2013 04:47 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 08:44 PM (xk0Xg)
I saw my son's heartbeat at 4 weeks. Yes, it's the same.
At what second does it become a monstrous crime to you?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 04:47 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: The Larch at April 26, 2013 04:48 PM (R5Pm6)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 26, 2013 04:48 PM (tqLft)
The National Recovery Administration logo is an eagle looking left with wings spread and clutching in its claws a wreath and three lightning bolts.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 04:48 PM (2TMW2)
He deflected nuclear warheads, PP wouldn't make a dent.
/ubernerd
Posted by: toby928© at April 26, 2013 04:48 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: typo dynamofo at April 26, 2013 04:50 PM (WVMUQ)
Posted by: Space Savior Zero at April 26, 2013 04:50 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 04:50 PM (2TMW2)
You can always trust the progs to lie, cheat, steal, and move the goalposts whenever you think you have reached a principled "compromise". Of course, any compromise you reach with them will still be evil in the first place!
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 26, 2013 04:50 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: sybilll at April 26, 2013 04:51 PM (/enLT)
The first time I held our son in my arms, he was crying, and the moment I spoke his name (yes, we knew we were having a son and named him before he was born), he stopped crying, and his big eyes focused intently on my face. As I spoke to him, he relaxed in my arms and seemed to smile. And he was less than an hour old (I had an emergency c-section and had to get "cleaned up" first).
Just think of Gosnell's poor little victims whose mothers' voices they never heard again.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 04:51 PM (lVPtV)
Anything else?"
A just fertilized egg doesn't have a heart.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 04:51 PM (xk0Xg)
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Actually much earlier. At Fetal age 4 weeks, (gestational age 5 and a half weeks) fetal heartbeat ban be heard via ultrasound. The neural tube closes right after that, and facial features begin to form at 5 weeks.
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 04:51 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 04:52 PM (2TMW2)
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 08:51 PM (xk0Xg)
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How many abortions are performed post-coitus?
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 04:52 PM (P6QsQ)
That's supposed to be a dove? Sheeee-it. I could steal a better dove than that.
When I put the two images together, I can see you're right. But from just glancing at the graphic...that's supposed to be a dove?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at April 26, 2013 04:52 PM (hO8IJ)
I always thought it would be more effective to do something to divide their side, such as billboards in black areas congratulating Planned Parenthood on killing 3,000,000 black babies last year.
And teary television spots with mothers wishing their aborted babies happy birthday, wondering what they would have been like, what milestones they would have passed, etc...
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 26, 2013 04:52 PM (AC0lD)
A just fertilized egg doesn't have a heart.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 08:51 PM (xk0Xg)
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Apparently, neither do you.
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 26, 2013 04:52 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: gastorgrab at April 26, 2013 04:53 PM (FX38i)
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 08:52 PM (P6QsQ)
Morning after pills.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 04:53 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 04:54 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: toby928© at April 26, 2013 04:54 PM (QupBk)
I guess Fairey's legal troubles of stealing a copyrighted picture have been sorted out. But it just further proves he does not create, he just snips and folds things others have created.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 04:55 PM (2TMW2)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 26, 2013 08:52 PM (AC0lD)
My guess is that the liberal press would never let you buy airtime for that ad on any network or cable channel, nonetheless, it is a great idea!
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 26, 2013 04:56 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: chaz at April 26, 2013 04:56 PM (sSNkG)
Posted by: loneduck at April 26, 2013 04:56 PM (60g/A)
Yeah, that jackass Neal Boortz is a libertarian and pro-choice, even mocking pro-lifers. I remember a few years ago when his precious princess daughter married, and he began longing for a grandchild.
I won't say what's in my mind.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 04:56 PM (lVPtV)
does it have sensory, does it feel pain
i think that what is being asked.
at this point i almost want to say , yes we'lll pay for the pill, the coil, the vasectomy, the tubal ligation, jut make it stop.
Posted by: willow at April 26, 2013 04:57 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 08:53 PM (uhAkr)
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Let me tell you about morning after pills. I was raped in college. When they took me to the hospital, without my knowledge or consent, they gave me medicine that would be called the morning after pill today I guess. Without ever telling me. I was furious. As if I didn't have enough to deal with, they treated me like an infant who could not make her own decisions. One that I would NOT have made that way, contrary to the all-knowing almighty "Women's Crisis Team".
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 04:57 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Lilredhen at April 26, 2013 04:57 PM (ybwS+)
their aborted babies happy birthday, wondering what they would have been
like, what milestones they would have passed, etc...
There were some of those sometime in the recent past. Woman watching child playing, then the child fades out, some sad regretful voiceover.
Posted by: toby928© at April 26, 2013 04:58 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 08:51 PM (xk0Xg) ---
Apparently, neither do you.
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 26, 2013 08:52 PM (BV
Apparently, you're just a liberal, making an emotional argument.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 04:58 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 04:58 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: zsasz at April 26, 2013 04:59 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 26, 2013 04:59 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 26, 2013 04:59 PM (jucos)
What second does it become abominable murder?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 04:59 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Anthony L. at April 26, 2013 05:00 PM (bl6Iq)
(I only cuss in my on-line life, FWIT.)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 05:00 PM (lVPtV)
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Assumes facts not in evidence ! LOL!
love you back , times two.
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 05:01 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: zsasz at April 26, 2013 08:59 PM (MMC8r)
I don't support butchering 5 month old fetuses, so, no.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 05:01 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: Anthony L. at April 26, 2013 09:00 PM (bl6Iq)
Start by taking back the language! Pro-abortion or Pro-infanticide take your pick.
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 26, 2013 05:03 PM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Otto Zilch at April 26, 2013 05:03 PM (eEa5w)
The third week.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 05:03 PM (2TMW2)
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 08:58 PM (xk0Xg)
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So, you're an emotionally disturbed conservative?
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 26, 2013 05:03 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 09:01 PM (xk0Xg)
Months is too broad. We need seconds. How many seconds can it be alive before it becomes abominable murder? three thousand, four hundred and fifty-seven?
If there's traffic, do we give the girl a mulligan if she's thirty seconds over the time?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 05:03 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 09:01 PM (xk0Xg
What? How about three or four month old "fetuses."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 05:03 PM (lVPtV)
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4 and a half?
4?
3 and 3/4s?
Something is either alive or it is inanimate or it is dead. Blood, DNA, intake of nourishment indicate life.
3 and a 1/2?
2 and 7/8?
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 05:03 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: spypeach at April 26, 2013 05:04 PM (6xG9/)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 05:04 PM (2TMW2)
We asked, "What's that for?". The Dr explained they could determine if the fetus had a likelihood of having Downe's.
We asked, "And that's necessary because?" The Dr explained.
We said to ourselves, "So, we'll stick a needle in my wife, risking injury to the child, so we can decide if we want to kill him, on the off chance something might be wrong with him."
Pass. And never looked back.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 26, 2013 05:05 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Kermit Gosnell at April 26, 2013 05:05 PM (XvHmy)
Because anyone who doesn't believe that's what Obama and his fellow Progs desire, is willingly stupid.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 05:06 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 05:07 PM (2TMW2)
Plenty of people that are brain dead are pulled off of life support. Is that murder?
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 05:08 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 05:08 PM (lVPtV)
Er, I mean, you know, in my own house. Over here. By myself.
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 05:08 PM (P6QsQ)
Er, I mean, you know, in my own house. Over here. By myself.
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 09:08 PM (P6QsQ)
*mental image captured*
Too late!
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 05:09 PM (doBIb)
They did the same thing with us. The Doctor looked at the length of time my wife was pregnant and said, "Oh, you'd better hurry up and get the amniocentesis!"
When I asked why we needed to hurry, there was an awkward silence.
We said no as well.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 05:09 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Craig Poe"
Wow, you're just so fucking brilliant.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 05:11 PM (xk0Xg)
They did the same thing with us. The Doctor looked at the length of time my wife was pregnant and said, "Oh, you'd better hurry up and get the amniocentesis!"
When I asked why we needed to hurry, there was an awkward silence.
We said no as well.
My wife was 38 when she got pregnant with our son. It was practically mandatory for them to do one.
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 05:11 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 26, 2013 05:12 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Starboardhelm at April 26, 2013 05:12 PM (hHgxI)
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 09:08 PM (xk0Xg)
If you are being kept alive by artificial means? Of course not.
A baby is not being kept alive in such a way. It is growing within its mother.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 05:12 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Anthony L. at April 26, 2013 05:14 PM (bl6Iq)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 05:14 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: EC
I think they want us to think that. And I'm not judging here, on diagnostic procedures. I don't think they can stick that needle in you if you don't consent.
My wife was 35 with our second.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 26, 2013 05:15 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 09:11 PM (doBIb
I was 37. I fired my Obgyn when, as a very slender (skinny) woman, I lost eight pounds in my first trimester due to severe morning (all day) sickness. When I finally gained an entire two pounds in my second trimester, he asked me if I wanted to be a "fat cow."
I found a different practice and was so happy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 05:16 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Friiiday Frisson at April 26, 2013 05:17 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at April 26, 2013 05:17 PM (HVff2)
A baby is not being kept alive in such a way. It is growing within its mother"
If an embryo doesn't have a functioning brain, it's at the same stage as somebody that's brain dead.
"What a stupid fucking argument. I am against aborting 5 month old fetuses. When is it ok?"
So you're point is that a week old fertilized egg is the same as a 5 month old fetus?
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 05:18 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 09:11 PM (xk0Xg)
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I'm glad you noticed.
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 26, 2013 05:18 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Peaches at April 26, 2013 05:18 PM (8lmkt)
What a great week this has been. Not.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 05:19 PM (lVPtV)
Well done sir. Fight these assholes tooth and nail. The imagery is sad but so true. Throw this shit in their faces and make them own it.
They will never tell you this - but inside the image will stick.
You've inspired me to start making my own posters and bumperstickers.
I got into a fight with a liberal about Gosnell's clinic. One woman had eight abortions there. I asked her "Where does personal responsibility come in to your pro-choice advocacy?" She exploded. Didn't want to deal with the ugly facts. Instead she said "You don't know these women. How dare you judge them!" I told her my taxes pay for this abomination and I damn well have a right to judge. Tough shit lady.
Posted by: Cheri at April 26, 2013 05:19 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: baldilocks at April 26, 2013 05:19 PM (Su0W2)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 05:19 PM (wsGWu)
-- No, it isn't. It is not taking an action to kill a human being who would live otherwise. It is refraining from using extraordinary means to maintain a life in order to let nature take it's course. It is not the active killing of a human being, as abortion is, as is every other form of murder.
Posted by: OCD Con at April 26, 2013 05:19 PM (ozmjY)
Posted by: sTevo at April 26, 2013 05:19 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Anthony L
And I care what you think because...?
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 05:20 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 09:19 PM (lVPtV)
This week sucked donkey balls, Jane. And I'm sorry for your husband's friend. Will add that to tonight's prayer list. xoxo
Posted by: Peaches at April 26, 2013 05:20 PM (8lmkt)
Leftism is more than just a mental disorder...it's a spiritual one.
Posted by: baldilocks at April 26, 2013 09:19 PM (Su0W2
Yes, it is. Thank you for those words.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 26, 2013 05:21 PM (lVPtV)
The next time people give me shit for being a spinster I should point out I was born after 1973. 1-in-4 chance anyone who would want me got "choiced."
Ho-hum.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at April 26, 2013 05:21 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 09:18 PM (xk0Xg)
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If left to live, a week old baby will eventually become a 5 month old baby, Einstein.
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 26, 2013 05:22 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 26, 2013 05:22 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Mark at April 26, 2013 05:22 PM (jRICF)
Posted by: Anthony L. at April 26, 2013 05:23 PM (bl6Iq)
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 08:51 PM (xk0Xg)
So all the women and men here who saw their hearts of their children beating at four plus weeks are wrong and you're right. /s
Why are you comparing a just fertilized egg to a four week embryo?
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 05:23 PM (xk0Xg)
Your mother CHOSE not to murder you in her womb.
Posted by: Anthony L. at April 26, 2013 09:23 PM (bl6Iq)
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POW!
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 26, 2013 05:24 PM (BVkEs)
No it isn't. A brain dead person in your scenario will not recover from their condition. An embryo will grow and develop.
A newborn does not have a fully-formed brain either. We take people off life support at the functional level of newborns (and above that) when they have no hope of recovery and let nature take its course.
The latter is considered perfectly acceptable. Abandoning a newborn, however, is considered monstrous.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 05:24 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 05:24 PM (wsGWu)
This is why the pro-infanticide group are so dead set against ultra-sounds prior to abortions. They don't want these women to be informed that there is a living, developing human being inside of them. Just zygotes....mass of tissue.
Posted by: Cheri at April 26, 2013 05:24 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: tammy at April 26, 2013 05:25 PM (U5uTP)
Posted by: Anthony L. at April 26, 2013 09:23 PM (bl6Iq)
Yeah. And if a women is going to MURDER what's in her womb, you prefer a 5 month fetus as opposed to an embryo that was fertilized a week ago, that doesn't have a brain?
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 05:25 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: Himura Kenshin at April 26, 2013 05:26 PM (cKvMf)
Posted by: baldilocks at April 26, 2013 05:26 PM (Su0W2)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at April 26, 2013 05:26 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: SicSemperTyurannus at April 26, 2013 05:27 PM (EAESv)
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It seems logic didn't make it into its DNA. Poor thing.
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 26, 2013 05:27 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 05:28 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Anthony L. at April 26, 2013 05:28 PM (bl6Iq)
Posted by: L, elle at April 26, 2013 05:29 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: RushBabe at April 26, 2013 05:29 PM (orY9d)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at April 26, 2013 05:29 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at April 26, 2013 09:26 PM (DGIjM)
For anyone, Shrimp. Brilliant use of messaging. We could use more of that.
Posted by: Peaches at April 26, 2013 05:29 PM (8lmkt)
It's not me being "murdered", so... my problem with abortion is pretty academic.
I do know that where more unwanted bastards born of not-very-bright parents survive to adulthood, my chances of being murdered go up.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 26, 2013 05:30 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: lou's a girl at April 26, 2013 05:30 PM (vgd4f)
How many of those could have been his best friend.. his girlfriend.. his wife one day... the kid on the high school football team.. the kid who goes on to cure cancer..
Really sobering for him."
THAT should be made into a national commercial. Powerful stuff
Posted by: The Q at April 26, 2013 05:30 PM (XQzGn)
However, don't expect me to offer you sympathy or to sooth your troubled conscience. You made that choice, you live with it.
After all, it's all about choice, isn't it, lefties?
Posted by: akornzombie at April 26, 2013 05:31 PM (3DXGj)
Yeah, I don't like Gosnell. But I also don't care all that much about the abortionists who draw the line earlier in the process.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 26, 2013 05:31 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 05:32 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at April 26, 2013 05:32 PM (DGIjM)
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If murder is answer to these social ills, maybe this is why DHS is buying so much ammo.
Posted by: sTevo at April 26, 2013 05:32 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 05:33 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Peaches at April 26, 2013 05:33 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: tammy at April 26, 2013 05:34 PM (U5uTP)
Posted by: baldilocks at April 26, 2013 05:34 PM (Su0W2)
not-very-bright parents survive to adulthood, my chances of being
murdered go up.
DAMN RIGHT!
Posted by: John Holdren at April 26, 2013 05:35 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 26, 2013 05:35 PM (eyJh9)
There is no middle ground.
What you believe is up to you.
But his motherfucking truth will go marching on.
Posted by: WOMEN'S HEALTH!!1! at April 26, 2013 05:35 PM (9sjmH)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 26, 2013 05:35 PM (ZQNhv)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 26, 2013 05:35 PM (y6Loi)
I just don't see how you can say "not a baby up until 4 months, 3 weeks, 6 days, 23 hours and 59 seconds" then boom, one second later it magically becomes a baby."
Thank you for actually thinking before responding. I don't know at what point aa embryo/fetus becomes "a person". But without implantation a fertilized egg will simply become waste and the woman will never know it happened. This is the beginning of life as a human? I just can't see it.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 05:37 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: Anthony L. at April 26, 2013 05:37 PM (bl6Iq)
not-very-bright parents survive to adulthood, my chances of being
murdered go up.
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And,you can make the same argument with open boarders and the influx of muzzies. You could get blown up ordering a taco.
Posted by: sTevo at April 26, 2013 05:37 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: ALH at April 26, 2013 05:37 PM (nYKXT)
We're not doing our side any favors by running off the folks who have one foot on each side.
Posted by: tammy at April 26, 2013 09:34 PM (U5uTP)
If these people are so delicate they will accept children having their heads cut off with scissors because pro-lifers challenge them, they're not really going to show up to help us.
Posted by: John Holdren at April 26, 2013 05:37 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at April 26, 2013 05:37 PM (DGIjM)
not-very-bright parents survive to adulthood, my chances of being
murdered go up.
That's more or less what I said.
Posted by: Margaret Sanger at April 26, 2013 05:37 PM (xKC/c)
not-very-bright parents survive to adulthood, my chances of being
murdered go up.
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If murder is answer to these social ills, maybe this is why DHS is buying so much ammo.
That just happens to be one of the premises of "Freakanomics". The author posits the theory that the crime rate during the early 90's started to drop instead of increase as trending due to abortion legalization the generation before. The author also speculates had Caecescu, the Romanian dictator, rescinded his anti-abortion edict then maybe he would have been alive because all those rioting youths would have been "taken care of" a generation earlier.
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 05:38 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 05:38 PM (wsGWu)
The Turkish ob-gyn working for the Air Force threatened me with immediate hospitalization with no visitors if I didn't lose 7 pounds in 3 days.
I actually did this, because I was scared and had no one to help me. So NOW that would be considered normal weight gain after all of my sickness.
I have never forgotten that, and have sympathy for anyone who has to deal with an Army hospital.
This same doctor would not give anesthesia of any sort at delivery. Fortunately, I come of strong stock and have quick deliveries. I did have to listen to a woman on the floor screaming and begging for pain meds for almost 24 hours.
West Berlin, 1968. I remember.
Posted by: Miss Marple at April 26, 2013 05:38 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: baldilocks at April 26, 2013 05:39 PM (Su0W2)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 26, 2013 05:40 PM (y6Loi)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 05:41 PM (wsGWu)
No one is going into anyone bedroom. But rather, a prohibition would attempt to stop contract killers from killing. Is that really too much government?
I used to be ambivalent. But I should have known better. If Liberals are for something, take the opposing path to increase spiritual integrity.
Posted by: Libertarians for Life at April 26, 2013 05:42 PM (9sjmH)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 05:42 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 05:44 PM (wsGWu)
Love it.
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 26, 2013 05:44 PM (BVkEs)
One quote from her website open letter:
Here, we nobly speak of the quality of rights for all persons, action plans and non-violent solutions, while the rights of the helpless and the pre-born are continually violated in often the most violent acts imaginable. Indeed, in America, since 1973, over 40 million American babies have been legally murdered. At least 13 million of these babies were Black. Two of these babies were mine. Coupled with the blatant practice of euthanasia, and the open assault on marriage and family, we have lost and continue to lose millions of our children in this culture of death. Some may argue that a woman has a right to chose what she does with her body. She does, but where is the lawyer for the baby, who is like a helpless slave in the womb of his/her mother?
Posted by: Cheri at April 26, 2013 05:44 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at April 26, 2013 05:44 PM (ial2b)
Yeah, it was pretty controversial when it came out. I just didn't see any solid evidence backing up his claim that abortion = less future crime. Sure, there's going to be less people, but that doesn't imply that lower population numbers mean lesser crime.
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 05:44 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Readers Digest Presents: This is Joe's Post-Taco bell, Not Very Happy Colon at April 26, 2013 05:45 PM (eQnzo)
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at April 26, 2013 05:46 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 26, 2013 05:46 PM (y6Loi)
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at April 26, 2013 05:46 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at April 26, 2013 05:46 PM (pM2hF)
Since it doesn't yet have any human structures and is a mass of cells, it isn't a human.
When this "unique human life" passes out of the woman's body because it isn't implanted, what is it then? A dead human?
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 05:47 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: baldilocks at April 26, 2013 05:48 PM (Su0W2)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 05:48 PM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Berserker at April 26, 2013 05:48 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: tammy at April 26, 2013 05:48 PM (U5uTP)
Posted by: Craig Poe
Says the guy that thinks a fertilized egg is the same as a 5 month fetus.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 05:49 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: tammy at April 26, 2013 05:49 PM (U5uTP)
Posted by: akornzombie at April 26, 2013 05:49 PM (3DXGj)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 05:50 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: weaseltooth at April 26, 2013 05:50 PM (BBWjt)
When this "unique human life" passes out of the woman's body because it isn't implanted, what is it then? A dead human?
Yup. It's human, and after failing to implant it is dead.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 26, 2013 05:51 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: tammy at April 26, 2013 09:48 PM (U5uTP)
Why? We're having a discussion on a charged topic where everybody gets flamed. The 'go-halvsies' people on abortion don't get special treatment.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 05:52 PM (uhAkr)
@244 I just dont see how with today's ultrasounds.. all the pictures of aborted babies that are at everyone's fingertips how anyone can be pro abortion unless they are sick human beings. they cant fool themselves like they could back in the 70's and 80's and say its just a clump of cells.
All it took for me was to see my sisters ultrasound.. she was 8 weeks pregnant. That was no blob of cells. Arms , legs, heartbeat .. that was my nephew. He is 21 now.
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Because people actively avoid looking at the pictures. The pictures can be powerful, but only if people are willing to subject themselves to them. Most people (on both sides) are properly horrified and turn away the moment the imagery appears.
And as for those who aren't horrified, there's always denial. I remember reading an article many years ago which claimed that it was impossible to really tell what was going on in the old anti-abortion film, "The Silent Scream" because the image was too fuzzy to make out enough details.
And on another note, I think I'm going to steal the pic at the top and post it on my Facebook page.
Posted by: junior at April 26, 2013 05:52 PM (DWqDw)
Thanks for the thought but I know it doesn't matter. With a lot it's religion.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 05:53 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: Christmasghost at April 26, 2013 05:53 PM (lr8AM)
But after 5 months, then women lose all rights over their bodies. Then government should totally force them to have their child.
But I'm like totally compassionate and non-judgmental and stuff.
Posted by: weaseltooth at April 26, 2013 05:54 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2013 05:54 PM (71gyQ)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 05:55 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: tammy at April 26, 2013 05:55 PM (U5uTP)
@247 Thank you for that info. I knew Dr. King was a passionate anti-abortion advocate--she can be seen with others protesting outside Gosnell's clinic back before the story got out--but I didn't know that about her personal life. God bless her.
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There are quite a few people with recognizable names who have had "buyer's remorse", so to speak, years after having had an abortion. iirc, even Roe herself, from Roe v. Wade, ultimately turned against abortion.
Posted by: junior at April 26, 2013 05:55 PM (DWqDw)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 26, 2013 05:55 PM (jucos)
2 things are required to sustain life. #1 A heart to sustain the brain. #2 A brain to tell the heart to beat. Both required at conception. Am I wrong?
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at April 26, 2013 05:56 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 08:51 PM (P6QsQ)
Mama, how is your mama north of Nogales doing?
I was on a mountaintop just east of Patagonia this week. The USBP position that had been there for years (agents, thermal imagers, ground surveillance radars), was gone . Nobody there.
If your mama needs a demonstration of force to keep the cartels away, let me know.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at April 26, 2013 05:56 PM (ial2b)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 05:56 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 09:53 PM (xk0Xg)
Liontooth the martyr, fighting the waves of horrible christianists who keep arguing with him without mentioning religion at all in any of their arguments.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 05:57 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 05:57 PM (nH8jP)
But after 5 months of pregnancy, then I'm totally in favor of using the Bible to force women to have children.
Posted by: weaseltooth at April 26, 2013 05:57 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Trevor (@tjexcite) at April 26, 2013 05:58 PM (CdeLs)
Posted by: tammy at April 26, 2013 05:59 PM (U5uTP)
Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at April 26, 2013 05:59 PM (pM2hF)
Posted by: weaseltooth at April 26, 2013 06:00 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 06:00 PM (nH8jP)
Can we have an ONT now?
Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 26, 2013 06:00 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Jones in CO at April 26, 2013 06:01 PM (8sCoq)
I think we just proved proggs aren't really alive.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at April 26, 2013 06:02 PM (hO8IJ)
Posted by: baldilocks at April 26, 2013 06:02 PM (Su0W2)
Posted by: tammy at April 26, 2013 06:02 PM (U5uTP)
youtube.com/watch?v=Ve-WioUpVYk
Posted by: The Q at April 26, 2013 06:04 PM (XQzGn)
Ready to move to the shallow end for the night.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 26, 2013 06:04 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: tammy at April 26, 2013 10:02 PM (U5uTP)
oh, crap, I wondered if that was you, darlin' . . . what the hell is Thor's problemo this evening?
Posted by: Peaches at April 26, 2013 06:04 PM (8lmkt)
@276 Does all sov. art of that period look the same, or was plagiarist fairy plagarizing the Stenberg bros. in particular?
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I've seen a lot of WW2 era Soviet propaganda posters. For the most part, they generally look quite a bit different from what's been shown here though they're all stylistically similar to each other. Part of the reason for the "sameness" within an era is no doubt due to the Cult of Personality that Communist nations have. What the leader likes, everyone else ends up liking.
Posted by: junior at April 26, 2013 06:04 PM (DWqDw)
Ok, genius. Does a newborn baby look like a 17 year old?Can the baby accomplish the same mental tasks?
A fertilized egg has a brain? It has limbs?
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 06:04 PM (xk0Xg)
For most golfers, that's a needless distraction about their golf game.
For Tiger Woods, it's a reminder of what he needs to do when he gets off the golf course.
Posted by: The Q at April 26, 2013 06:05 PM (XQzGn)
I meant this one:
youtube.com/watch?v=ULI5kolBpAk
Posted by: The Q at April 26, 2013 06:05 PM (XQzGn)
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Biblical verse against injury to a child in the womb.
Posted by: Thumper at April 26, 2013 06:05 PM (VMcEw)
Posted by: L, elle at April 26, 2013 06:06 PM (0PiQ4)
I however am a supremely educated and enlightened individual who is totally okay with killing babies before 5.0000000000000000 months of pregnancy. After that though I'm totally down with forcing women to have their babies.
Posted by: weaseltooth at April 26, 2013 06:06 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Protagoras at April 26, 2013 06:07 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2013 06:08 PM (71gyQ)
Posted by: loneduck at April 26, 2013 06:08 PM (60g/A)
people yelling 'get in the hole!' after every friggin' golf shot
Posted by: Jones in CO at April 26, 2013 10:01 PM (8sCoq)
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Shortly after Tigers return to golf, he took a shot, and one guy yelled "get in the water". It was funny as hell.
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 26, 2013 06:08 PM (BVkEs)
Actually, the heart does not need any signals from the brain to continue beating.
Heart cells have been kept alive and beating outside of complete bodies for years.
However, the brain can modulate their action. Meditation can allow incredible control, and, of course, an adrenaline rush will speed heartbeat.
Posted by: Bob (codename: Henri) at April 26, 2013 06:08 PM (RUsmm)
Posted by: tammy at April 26, 2013 06:10 PM (U5uTP)
Obama says "God Bless" to Planned Parenthood?
So, girls are sleeping with men they're not married to - making babies nobody wants - then hey kill those babies before their born, and Obama wants God to bless this?
Good luck with that
Posted by: Lily at April 26, 2013 06:10 PM (igSv+)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 06:10 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 26, 2013 06:10 PM (Zd/NW)
If the child is born alive, it is time to call the paramedics.
Gosnell needs a rope, and a 291st trimester abortion for himself.
Posted by: Kristophr at April 26, 2013 06:10 PM (wYVte)
Thanks Q, but we all know that the worst was tainted love.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 06:10 PM (xk0Xg)
When the poster first loaded my first impression was a head-shape and a dark square where a mustache would be, I immediately looked for Hitler. Freak minds can work that way.
Posted by: Rorschached at April 26, 2013 06:11 PM (1R473)
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Similarly, votes are cast the same way.
Posted by: sTevo at April 26, 2013 06:11 PM (VMcEw)
Actually the 'go-halvsies' people deserve extra special scorn. Because for them it is not about morals or principles at all. It is just some watery compromise that is not grounded on any solid principle, just pragmatic convenience.
Either you believe the unborn child is a living human being entitled to a right to life, or you believe it is not. There is no "well, maybe". There is no point along gestational development at which the "spark of life" finally kicks in. Either the developing child had it at the very beginning, or you reject the idea in toto and become a Gosnell-esque butcher.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 26, 2013 06:11 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: L, elle at April 26, 2013 06:11 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: Peaches at April 26, 2013 06:11 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: cowboyup at April 26, 2013 06:12 PM (fOLTf)
I wish liberals were as concerned preventing pregnancies that would only end in abortion as they are concerned about ....
- reusable grocery bags
-carbon footprints
-littering
- testing on animals
-wearing fur
-eating animals
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Posted by: Lily at April 26, 2013 06:13 PM (igSv+)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 06:14 PM (nH8jP)
Posted by: baldilocks at April 26, 2013 06:14 PM (Su0W2)
Posted by: tammy at April 26, 2013 06:14 PM (U5uTP)
@306 With them it is all or nothing, even when they say they want it safe, rare and legal. The only thing they want it is "legal", period. Whenever we pass any little restriction, then it becomes we are outlawing abortion and sending girls to back alleys with a coat hanger.
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Parental Consent laws have failed at least twice now in California when presented to the state's voters.
Of course, whether the infamous 9th Circuit would allow those laws to stand even if they did pass is another matter entirely...
Posted by: junior at April 26, 2013 06:14 PM (DWqDw)
Posted by: baldilocks at April 26, 2013 06:16 PM (Su0W2)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 26, 2013 06:16 PM (Zd/NW)
Bruce Springsteen actually ripped that song off for a new song circa 2007, so it shows how far HE'S fallen from the 80s.
NO ONE has ripped off "Heartbeat," and Don Johnson has been excommunicated partially because of it. Worst song of the 80s
Posted by: The Q at April 26, 2013 06:16 PM (XQzGn)
At the moment of conception cell division begins to rapidly unfold according to the genetic coding from each parent. Legs, organs, and eyelashes are all laid out based upon the information contained within the cell. Nothing will be added.or changed. Your arm length and hair color has been determined. The only think separating.you from a born child is time.
Thanks for finally admitting it! It's not there YET. It's a blueprint.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 06:16 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at April 26, 2013 06:17 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: JohnE. at April 26, 2013 06:18 PM (nRTou)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 06:18 PM (wsGWu)
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree!
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 06:19 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: tammy at April 26, 2013 06:19 PM (U5uTP)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 06:20 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 26, 2013 06:21 PM (Zd/NW)
Way to completely miss the point. Enjoy your ignorance.
A 10 year old doesn't have "developed" breasts.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 06:21 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 06:22 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Shocked, Shocked I Tell You at April 26, 2013 06:23 PM (1R473)
Is a load of lumber at a construction site a building? Again, it isn't, it becomes.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 06:23 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 26, 2013 10:21 PM (Zd/NW)
Uh....no.
If we are pro-life, then they are pro-death; or anti-life.
Life and choice are not opposites.
Do not let them control the language.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 26, 2013 06:24 PM (/WLC3)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 26, 2013 06:25 PM (QlTaC)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 06:25 PM (wsGWu)
I volunteer to take up to 1.5 metric butt-tons of stress from you. I can use it for nefarious purposes.
Posted by: Bob (codename: Henri) at April 26, 2013 06:26 PM (RUsmm)
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at April 26, 2013 06:27 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 26, 2013 06:28 PM (U5uTP)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 06:28 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 26, 2013 06:30 PM (U5uTP)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, elsewhere at April 26, 2013 06:30 PM (m9V0o)
I however am pro-choice. The less children liberals have the better.
Posted by: Josef at April 26, 2013 06:31 PM (Kd2Tr)
Posted by: baldilocks at April 26, 2013 06:32 PM (Su0W2)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 06:33 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 06:35 PM (wsGWu)
The cells for that particular tissue growth have yet to be activated.
Again, they are there. as in "present". They don't just appear out of nowhere.
No, the lumber can not spontaneously become a building without adding to it. A zygote, however, DOES become
Does become isn't NOW.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 06:37 PM (xk0Xg)
T-dub, take a look at
http://www.bluesci.org/?p=3283
To minimize misunderstanding, I state that I am anti-baby-murder. And actually ant-murder.
I am totally pro-self-defense with deadly force.
Posted by: Bob (codename: Henri) at April 26, 2013 06:40 PM (RUsmm)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 06:41 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: AES at April 26, 2013 06:43 PM (3XQRk)
Yes, THIS may be the worst song of the 80s:
youtube.com/watch?v=CmALA8miQY8
Posted by: The Q at April 26, 2013 06:44 PM (XQzGn)
Posted by: HoundOfDoom at April 26, 2013 06:48 PM (CFrIf)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 26, 2013 06:49 PM (U5uTP)
Scale up your bandwidth before I toss this poster into the deep liberal waters like shark chum!
Shame on you for causing those who see it to feel bad. [wink]
Posted by: trax at April 26, 2013 06:49 PM (mVBvP)
Posted by: lpy at April 26, 2013 06:51 PM (VSS5v)
What I'd agree on is that a zygote is self organizing organism that becomes a human.
Do you not hate me quite as much?
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 06:54 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 06:57 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: DNA at April 26, 2013 06:58 PM (9MgHD)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 26, 2013 06:59 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 26, 2013 07:02 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 26, 2013 07:12 PM (U5uTP)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 07:18 PM (wsGWu)
When a woman doesn't go into Planned Parenthood for an abortion, we pay for it, and the government. For the next 18 years.
Posted by: joan at April 26, 2013 07:20 PM (z4gOE)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 07:23 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 26, 2013 07:23 PM (U5uTP)
Ok, genius. Does a newborn baby look like a 17 year old?Can the baby accomplish the same mental tasks?.Is his body as physically developed?
Is the newborn equally human despite these functional differences? Posted by: Lauren
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There was a recent article in the Journal of Medical Ethics arguing that until a person can contribute in some way to their own upkeep they can't be considered human, ergo things like Kermit Gosnell's butchery up to the age of two or three is perfectly fine. I've read similar arguments out of the eugenics movement from its inception to today on why people with disabilities, choice minorities, children, the elderly, etc. can't be considered human.
As for what is to be considered a living human argument: Anything with individually distinct human genetic code with active cell functions. Period. End of story.
And to forestall Liontooth: Yes, a just fertilized egg, yes even if it doesn't implant. If you take blood from someone and keep it in a bag or whatever, that's not human because it's got it's donor's genetic code (ergo isn't individually distinct).
Posted by: Ranba Ral at April 26, 2013 07:25 PM (G99e4)
Posted by: DNA at April 26, 2013 07:26 PM (9MgHD)
I was born in '75 to a 16 year old mother. I could simply "not have been".Posted by: LoneMarauder, skulking silently at April 26, 2013 07:28 PM (eHBHk)
When a woman doesn't go into Planned Parenthood for an abortion, we pay for it, and the government. For the next 18 years.
Ah, yes- the progressive agenda- putting a $ value on human life.
Posted by: HvyMtlHntr at April 26, 2013 07:28 PM (HqLmn)
Posted by: LoneMarauder, skulking silently at April 26, 2013 07:29 PM (eHBHk)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 26, 2013 07:30 PM (U5uTP)
Posted by: DNA at April 26, 2013 07:31 PM (9MgHD)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 07:35 PM (wsGWu)
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This is an argument I hear all the time that is just. not. true.
What many conservatives object to is not providing help for those in need, but this insistence that the only way to accomplish that is through government confiscation of monies via confiscatory taxes that go to programs that continually fail but are never rescinded once established. Or programs ripe with fraud and abuse. Or programs that make no sense but have been around for so many years that no one dares touch them. Or programs that reinforce bad choices by making those bad choices economically attractive.
Many MANY conservatives happen to be very involved in providing support to young women and their children. Actively. Directly. Not invisibly through payroll deductions, as seems to be the only way liberals view "help".
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 07:37 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Jerry Smith at April 26, 2013 07:37 PM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 07:38 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: DNA at April 26, 2013 07:38 PM (9MgHD)
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Cancer cells contain only the DNA of their host. Babies contain their own uniquely human DNA, distinct from the mother.
I totally agree that a woman has the right to do with her body as she chooses. I do not agree that she has the right to do to someone ELSE'S body as she chooses. A baby at any stage is distinctly NOT the woman's body.
Posted by: mama winger at April 26, 2013 07:40 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Cracker Annie Mouse at April 26, 2013 07:42 PM (QhE5s)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 26, 2013 07:48 PM (U5uTP)
Saw similar things student teaching in inner-city Toledo and when I'd go in with mom when she worked at the Salvation Army. There were plenty of people who actually needed help, but so many were just lazy, entitled jackasses to the point that it was sickening.
Posted by: Ranba Ral at April 26, 2013 07:53 PM (G99e4)
No problem. My now was at conception up until implantation/imbedding. After that, I don't know. I don't see that conception will ever be the legal definition of a person in the US. Maybe those that won't concede it (evidenced in this thread) are right to not give in. I just don't see the current system ever changing with that.
Maybe I should have started out with "Can we all agree that butchering a 5 month fetus is fucking murder, and anybody that disagrees is a fucking murderer?"
I don't hate you, I'm just greatly annoyed by your stubborn refusal to acknowledge basic science. Posted by: Lauren
I can live with that! :-)
Abortions represent only about 3% of total services provided by Planned Parenthood,
Right. 97 women go into planned parenthood and get condoms. 3 get abortions. How much expense is it for the 97 vs. the 3. Who's paid for the scalpel, the gauze, the disinfectants, etc. ? I'm sure no government money, right?
although they do receive federal funding, the money cannot be used for abortions by law
The Doctor volunteers his/her time so he/she gets a tax break. Besides
his labor, where is the big cost? The disposal of the fetus? That's just bio 'waste', thrown in with the used needles and rubber gloves.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 07:54 PM (xk0Xg)
There is no moral argument that can be made for abortion. It is a completely un-natural act. It is based on a lie, and leaves emotional wreckage and family destuction in it's wake. It is a major contributing factor to the rapid downward spiral of a healthy American society. Future generations will judge us harshly.
Posted by: HvyMtlHntr at April 26, 2013 08:01 PM (HqLmn)
Yes, THIS may be the worst song of the 80s:
youtube.com/watch?v=CmALA8miQY8
The Q, you're like Ghandi only with links and snark!
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 08:01 PM (xk0Xg)
The Doctor volunteers his/her time so he/she gets a tax break. Besides
his labor, where is the big cost? The disposal of the fetus? That's just bio 'waste', thrown in with the used needles and rubber gloves.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 11:54 PM (xk0Xg)
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Once a sick fuck, always a sick fuck. And that means you liontoothless. You've been checkmated, so give up, if it's in your DNA to do so.
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 26, 2013 08:01 PM (BVkEs)
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Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2013 08:08 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 26, 2013 08:08 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 26, 2013 08:09 PM (BVkEs)
Once a sick fuck, always a sick fuck. And that means you liontoothless. You've been checkmated, so give up, if it's in your DNA to do so.
Posted by: Craig Poe
Clearly 'subtleness' isn't one of 'its' talents. Thanks for confirming my initial impression.
Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 08:19 PM (xk0Xg)
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 26, 2013 08:29 PM (BVkEs)
@276 Does all sov. art of that period look the same, or was plagiarist fairy plagarizing the Stenberg bros. in particular?
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I've seen a lot of WW2 era Soviet propaganda posters. For the most part, they generally look quite a bit different from what's been shown here though they're all stylistically similar to each other. Part of the reason for the "sameness" within an era is no doubt due to the Cult of Personality that Communist nations have. What the leader likes, everyone else ends up liking.
Posted by: junior at April 26, 2013 10:04 PM (DWqDw)
If you are interested there used to be a blog -- A Soviet Poster A Day. It has moved on from vintage Soviet art to other things but it's an easy search and there are archives. Depending on its use in service to the state art varies in style.
Posted by: gracepmc at April 26, 2013 08:33 PM (rznx3)
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Posted by: liontooth at April 26, 2013 09:11 PM
I'm gonna go ahead and say the first digit of your age is no higher than 2. Twiddle down.
Posted by: Corona at April 27, 2013 05:06 AM (fh2Y7)
"the same people who take every opportunity they can to cut funding for
social services, food stamps, and every other program that would end up
supporting these low income kids and their families. You say you'd
rather pay for the baby than kill it, but in reality you'd rather do
neither.)"
DON'T MAKE THE BABY IN THE FIRST PLACE! (sorry about the yelling, but I'm angry)
You really don't have to sleep around (really)
and/or
Use Birth Control like you mean it.
Such Casual, Careless People!
Posted by: Lily at April 27, 2013 05:43 AM (igSv+)
As for "choice" now that we have removed all the stigma from unwed mothering, and we have a slew of infertile couples who are willing to buy babies, why is abortion so necessary? Especially in light of the fact that back alley abortions are still killing women.
Convenience.
Own up to it, preezy.
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