April 03, 2013

So, Mark Sanford Won the Run-Off
— Ace

And he'll face Steven Colbert's sister (no, really) in the general.

Although everyone believes his press conference admitting the affair was super-weird n' stuff, I think it was weird primarily for two closely-related reasons.

1, he was being honest, not continuing to lie about. The oddest thing was his candor about it-- which felt strange, because we're not used to seeing candor after a political affair. We know how these things are supposed to go. There is A Script. A, I have sinned, B, I am working on it with my wife, C, I'm talking to ministers and stuff about God and Jesus. We are so used to a fake ritual of feigned, poll-tested remorse (the remorse of someone primarily sorry he got caught) it's strange to see an honest discussion about it.

2, and the weirdest thing was that Sanford included only small nods to point B, "I'm working on it with my wife." He did mention that aspect of it, but it was a strange sort of "working on it with my wife," because he seemed to make it pretty clear he was leaving his wife for this other woman, and "working on it with my wife" seemed to mean "we're trying to figure out a way where everyone's okay with this." He repeatedly mentioned the woman he had an affair with as being among the people he hurt by his actions -- mentioning her before his wife.

The usual script calls for the politician to claim he's willing to do anything to have his wife's trust back again; Sanford's press conference didn't.

I think part of the weirdness was caused by this event happening (due to his being caught away from South Carolina) three-quarters of the way to a decision to leave his wife, and not quite wanting to say that in a nationally-televised broadcast.

Does it matter that he's engaged to the woman he had an affair with now? I've always thought this was an interesting question: Was his bigger sin that he had a sexual affair or that he fell in love with the woman he had an affair with?

I think it's the latter, actually. Partly because such a thing is more of a danger to the spurned wife -- a casual affair might be terrible, but at the end of the day, the decision of whether or not to continue the marriage still remains with the woman. In Sanford's case, that decision didn't lie with Jenny Sanford alone. It's one thing to have a cheap sexual affair; it's another thing to decide the affair is worth leaving your wife over.

And partly because many would say that at Sanford's age, such a thing -- the juvenile excitement of "new love" -- is childish and unseemly. At his age, the thinking goes (I think), he ought to be wise enough to know that the sort of "love" sung about in songs is an intense but ephemeral thing.

And therefore it's unseemlier, even, than an entirely emotion-free sexual affair, like a Clinton-style bejeer in the Oval Office, or a session with a prostitute. It's sometimes a little strange what people will deem as forgivable and unforgivable.

That was the really weird thing in the press conference -- his refusal to throw the woman he had an affair with under the bus and say it was "just a weakness" and that it's all over now and he'll never do it again. He was supposed to say that; it's in the script. He refused to.

Well, he's our guy now. I wouldn't have risked a seat on him (assuming he had any decent competitors), but that's the bet the party has made.

Posted by: Ace at 08:04 AM | Comments (364)
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1 Mark Sanford: Winning over the minority vote one voter at a time!

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 03, 2013 08:08 AM (AC0lD)

2 And we continue defining deviancy downwards.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 03, 2013 08:08 AM (fsH2r)

3 So do you think conservatives will get credit for not being such prudes? Yeah, I didn't think so either.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 03, 2013 08:09 AM (T0NGe)

4 Hispanic outreach baby! Mark Sanford will personally sexify the Latina population into become Republicans. Sanford's mighty meat bat is our only hope!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 03, 2013 08:09 AM (ZPrif)

5 Marriage is a sacred covenant.  Love is a battlefield.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at April 03, 2013 08:09 AM (F3nFt)

6 We won't get anywhere in defeating the Left by electing adulterers, liars, and cheats. 


*straps on helmet and waits for the circular firing squad*

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 03, 2013 08:10 AM (5SJfP)

7 I'm sure Sanford's new fiancee/whore can trust him.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 08:10 AM (4cRnj)

8 I just can't help it because of my dangly bits, so I'll just say it: The home-wrecking Argentinian hussy? She's muy caliente. Zowie.

Posted by: joncelli at April 03, 2013 08:11 AM (RD7QR)

9 4 Hispanic outreach baby!
Mark Sanford will personally sexify the Latina population into become Republicans.
Sanford's mighty meat bat is our only hope!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 03, 2013 12:09 PM (ZPrif)


And this is why I always look away from the screen when drinking any kind of beverage.  I call it the AoSHQ Screen Saver rule.


Now if you'll excuse me, I need to see if any of that brain bleach is left in stock...

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 03, 2013 08:11 AM (5SJfP)

10 You can't make your heart behave. Throwing over the one you love for your political career is cold and reptilian.
Fire away.

Posted by: real joe at April 03, 2013 08:11 AM (5X+/S)

11 Also, Ace, I really hate when people refer to "the party" as if it is a hive mind. There was a crazy multi-way primary, Sanford was the most well-known name, so he got into the top 2 and the other guy was apparently not so appealing. So a majority of runoff voters figured Sanford was better. I know what you mean, but it's a pet peeve with me.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 03, 2013 08:12 AM (T0NGe)

12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl62_82wZUg


Posted by: LC LaWedgie at April 03, 2013 08:12 AM (0It32)

13 Good thing no one would ever try a honeypot operation on a known philanderer...

Right, Average Joe?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 03, 2013 08:12 AM (mN8D3)

14

"And partly because many would say that at Sanford's age, such a thing -- the juvenile excitement of "new love" -- is childish and unseemly. At his age, the thinking goes (I think), he ought to be wise enough to know that the sort of "love" sung about in songs is an intense but ephemeral thing."

I'm in the opposite camp. For once it wasn't just cheap tawdry sex, the usual script, and that was refreshing because it's actually quite common in the real world: people cheat on their spouses with their next spouse.  Doesn't make it right, and doesn't make it right that Sanford got to do it on the government dime, but it's rare to see something so common IRL but uncommon in the political world occur in the public view.  For the record, I've known several people who did this sort of thing, and contrary to the expectation, their second marriages lasted as long if not longer than their first- "once a cheater always a cheater" seems to me more applicable to those who cheat for casual sex than those who cheat for love.

Posted by: Regulus at April 03, 2013 08:12 AM (d4ZzM)

15 Nobody has asked the obvious question: who was hotter: the mistress or the wife?



Posted by: Penfold at April 03, 2013 08:13 AM (Fbt5B)

16 Ace, you gonna get your man in line, or what?

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 08:14 AM (El+h4)

17 Wait..."Steven Colbert" is a real person? I though it was the screen name of aome actor who pretended to be a Repub pundit. Huh.

Posted by: DangerGirl at April 03, 2013 08:14 AM (TLokJ)

18 Interesting analysis. Better than most of what else I've read.

Posted by: Dianna at April 03, 2013 08:15 AM (DV/Ik)

19

The amnesty news has thoroughly deprssed me. Slow motion train wreck about to happen, and no one will listen to us.

Time to buy more ammo and supplies...

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 03, 2013 08:15 AM (uhftQ)

20

I like hiking.

Posted by: garrett at April 03, 2013 08:15 AM (USJAp)

21 He's gonna own the Latin vote.

Posted by: Ook? at April 03, 2013 08:15 AM (OQpzc)

22

I was always able to defend the Republican Party from the scandals of their politicians based on the Republican electorate's past shunning of these guys. 

 

With the reelection of Senator Vitter and now Mark Sanford, I have no leg to stand on.   

Posted by: polynikes at April 03, 2013 08:15 AM (m2CN7)

23 Shit like this makes me glad I'm registered as "Unaffiliated."

Posted by: shillelagh at April 03, 2013 08:16 AM (hRzu2)

24 Yeah, I also think South Carolinians won't be awed by celebrity like other voters we could name (*cough* New York and Hillary *cough*). In fact, I'd bet that miss 1-degree-of-separation-from-a-D-lister is going to find out that her celebrity will hurt her with SC-1.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 03, 2013 08:16 AM (T0NGe)

25 Sigh. I hope he loses. Simply put. If he can not remain faithful in his oath to his wife, he can not remain faithful in his oath to his constituents.

Posted by: Hopeless at April 03, 2013 08:16 AM (qHQCW)

26 If there is one Republican in his district who stays home or votes for the Democrat because of his affair, may I be the first to say FUCK YOU to that Republican.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 08:16 AM (HDgX3)

27 Wait..."Steven Colbert" is a real person? I though it was the screen name of aome actor who pretended to be a Repub pundit. Huh.

Posted by: DangerGirl at April 03, 2013 12:14 PM (TLokJ)

 

Yes, no and Kinda.

His real name is "Steven Colbert" but apparently it's pronounced "Coal-Bert" and "Coal-Bear" is the stage name.

His brother is some kind of high-profile patent attorney or something.

 

The worst part is that Colbert will use his celebrity to raise huge sums (probably from out of state) for his sister.

You know, what the dems hated walker for doing in WI.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 08:17 AM (GaqMa)

28 I'm thinking evangelicals may stay home.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 03, 2013 08:18 AM (4cRnj)

29 He's gonna own the European vote, too. Rich guys have a right to a mistress over there.

Posted by: Ook? at April 03, 2013 08:18 AM (OQpzc)

30 A Dmocrat could on live TV eat a puppy, burn the flag, say a racist joke and beat up a gay couple. And 99.9% of Democrats in his district/state would still vote for him.

On the Republican side, a guy has an affair and Republicans have a moral debate with themselves if the candidate is worthy of their vote.

This is why they win and we lose most of the time.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 08:18 AM (HDgX3)

31 it's important that Sanford gets his ex to say something about Hillary forgiving Bill.

Posted by: mallfly at April 03, 2013 08:18 AM (bJm7W)

32 Shit happens.  People fall in love even while they're married.

Hell.. half the population of married couples get divorced, and a lot of it is because they tire of each other and/or find someone else.  So, hey.. whatever.

And as an aside, all this talk about letting homosexuals get married because it would ruin the institution of marriage.. well, geez, I think heteros have already pissed on marriage as an institution enough already.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 03, 2013 08:18 AM (f9c2L)

33 Don't care...he's not my representative. I might still vote for him if he were running in my district if I thought he would do the best job of keeping the feral gubmint smaller, cheaper and the fuck out of my hair.

My biggest concern about the whole thing was the dereliction of duty part, the marriage was between him, his wife and GOD.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 03, 2013 08:18 AM (44PWr)

34 My understanding is he was a good Governor, but a lousy husband.  He's made his money and could be living on the beach in Argentina (does Argentina have nice beaches?), so he doesn't need the job.  So why is he running for congress, shits & giggles?

Posted by: Paladin at April 03, 2013 08:18 AM (+Wvn3)

35 26 If there is one Republican in his district who stays home or votes for the Democrat because of his affair, may I be the first to say FUCK YOU to that Republican.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 12:16 PM (HDgX3)


This is where I cut in and say "I hope he fails".


Just because the man has a damned "R" next to his name does NOT make him a good choice, or even a superior choice.  >_>

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 03, 2013 08:19 AM (5SJfP)

36 With thereelectionof Senator Vitter and now Mark Sanford, I have no leg to stand on. Well, now it's a matter of degree. They have Bob Menendez. Vitter didn't bother me. That was an "in the past" thing that he and his wife had worked through before it was made public. I also think that it's funny that a DC madam manages to release only one name and it just so happens to be a Republican. Yeah...no.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 03, 2013 08:19 AM (T0NGe)

37 My biggest concern about the whole thing was the dereliction of duty part, the marriage was between him, his wife and GOD.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 03, 2013 12:18 PM (44PWr)


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Dude, he was governor of a state. It's not like NC was about to invade and he was out of town and the SC national guard didn't have its CIC directing the war. I mean come on. A governor could leave the state for a month without anyone knowing and it wouldn't make a difference.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 08:20 AM (HDgX3)

38 I don't think it will effect him.  I know it sounds odd, but I think it's because of the points Ace made in his post.  Between the lines I think Ace feels it, perhaps he just doesn't understand exactly why quite yet.  I feel the same but with a touch more optimisum, I guess.

Posted by: Walknot at April 03, 2013 08:21 AM (vo2je)

39 >>>I'm in the opposite camp. For once it wasn't just cheap tawdry sex, the usual script, and that was refreshing because it's actually quite common in the real world: people cheat on their spouses with their next spouse. Doesn't make it right, and doesn't make it right that Sanford got to do it on the government dime, but it's rare to see something so common IRL but uncommon in the political world occur in the public view. common but still... his wife was humiliated and hurt. this is a difficult calculus that Sanford seems to be trying to figure out: How selfish are you allowed to be, and how selfless are you required to be? There's a tension in the Republican Party (and among any morally serious people) over this question. When we establish something as an Ideal, what does that mean? Doubtless we know the "ideal," selfless thing to do (sacrifice the self for the wife and the kids). Do we praise that behavior or do we insist on it as normal and blame all who fall short? Do we take the ideal as something to be aspired to or the minimum requirement for acceptance in decent society? I know people have a tendency to offer two different answers, too: We tend to be tougher about this with other people and far more lenient -- justifying our own failings as merely falling short of an ideal -- when it's ourselves or someone we're very protective of (such as children or other family members). I'm not sure there's any answer.

Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 08:21 AM (LCRYB)

40 The home-wrecking Argentinian hussy? She's muy caliente. Zowie. Screen door in a hurricane.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2013 08:22 AM (B/VB5)

41 Just bein' realistic. Most folks don't give a crap about marriage anymore.

He lets them feel okay about feeling that way, too.

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 08:22 AM (El+h4)

42 Just because the man has a damned "R" next to his name does NOT make him a good choice, or even a superior choice.

At this time, in this country, in the overwhelming majority of cases...
Yeah, it does.

Posted by: real joe at April 03, 2013 08:22 AM (5X+/S)

43 From what I understand, Sanford's love rocket emits an irresistible pheromone uniquely designed to inflame the loins of the average latina. They can't resist. They are simultaneously overcome with the urge to dingle his dangle and lower capital gains taxes. Win-win baby! It's a motherfucking biological weapon of GOP voter outreach. A love and low tax virus spread one dripping wet latin labia at a time. Unstoppable!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 03, 2013 08:22 AM (ZPrif)

44 He'll have a fair shot if Stephen Colbert remains neutral on his show... I figure we lose, either way.

Posted by: t-bird at April 03, 2013 08:23 AM (oJQ+J)

45

I recognized his whole crazy-in-love thing.  When it comes late in life, it's "unseemly" because people are supposed to be beyond "follish" behavior when they're in middle age.  That's not true, since middle-aged men and women often make fools of themselves.  It's only public figures that have to deal with this kind of coverage.

 

I appreciate his honesty, but my personal feeling is that he ruined his professional life.  If he actually wins this election, good for him.  And if he doesn't, he should think about giving up politics.

Posted by: disa at April 03, 2013 08:23 AM (R+h7Q)

46 Vitter didn't bother me. That was an "in the past" thing that he and his wife had worked through before it was made public.

I also think that it's funny that a DC madam manages to release only one name and it just so happens to be a Republican.

Yeah...no.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 03, 2013 12:19 PM (T0NGe)

 

No Vitter was worse because he did a Bill Clinton finger pointing during his first run.  He not only denied the allegations, he attacked and disparged his Republican opponents in Louisiana who had the nerve to call him out on this  matter. 

Posted by: polynikes at April 03, 2013 08:23 AM (m2CN7)

47 follish=foolish

Posted by: disa at April 03, 2013 08:23 AM (R+h7Q)

48 It's not like he had a serious challenger.

Posted by: Shoot Me at April 03, 2013 08:23 AM (qiXMt)

49

You left out one small detail that more or less demonstrates that Sanford is, indeed, an idiot.  When he started his new election campaign, he asked his wife to work as his campaign manager.  I think that right there indicates that there's something seriously wrong with Sanford.

Also, I'm still of the opinion that the whole thing was horribly mishandled.  He'd already been caught (by his wife) with this woman once before, and he'd promised that he'd keep clear of her.  He should have ended his marriage *first* before restarting the sexual relations with the new woman.  Instead, we've got some pretty clear indications that the man's word means little, if anything.

 

Posted by: junior at April 03, 2013 08:23 AM (UWFpX)

50 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo
.........
Thanks for some perspective.. "dereliction of duty"?  Not so much.. but you would htink he woulda been able to come up with some "official" reason to visit South America..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 03, 2013 08:24 AM (f9c2L)

51 Just because the man has a damned "R" next to his name does NOT make him a good choice, or even a superior choice. >_>

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 03, 2013 12:19 PM (5SJfP)


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Once again, this type of thinking is why we lose and they win. It's a big part of why Romeny lost too. He wasn't perfect so TruCons stayed home. Well great, instead of getting a fiscal conservative who had an affair, you'll get a moonbat Democrat. But you'll show him!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 08:24 AM (HDgX3)

52 No doubt Stephen Colbert will devote a considerable amount of time on his program during his sister's campaign to wry commentary on Sanford.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 03, 2013 08:24 AM (9eDbm)

53 I'm not sure there's any answer.


Posted by: ace


The answer is adding a second girl to the mix.

Posted by: Mark Sanford at April 03, 2013 08:24 AM (4cRnj)

54 And as an aside, all this talk about letting homosexuals get married because it would ruin the institution of marriage.. well, geez, I think heteros have already pissed on marriage as an institution enough already. Yeah, that's truly a problem. Or maybe it isn't. You see, the WaPo has an article that says. "Children born out of wedlock? Awesome, it is just progress toward a world with more nontraditional families!" http://tinyurl.com/c39oy33 And you thought it was all about "And now gays can have two-parent households and maybe raise a kid." Yeah...no.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 03, 2013 08:24 AM (T0NGe)

55 What's the big deal? He's just a Clinton Republican.

Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 08:24 AM (MMC8r)

56
At this time, in this country, in the overwhelming majority of cases...
Yeah, it does.

Posted by: real joe at April 03, 2013 12:22 PM (5X+/S)


That went real far with Scott Brown, now didn't it? 


I'm certain that you'd be just tickled pink at the idea of Christie 2016 as well.


No, it doesn't.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 03, 2013 08:24 AM (5SJfP)

57 Dude, he was governor of a state. It's not like NC was about to invade and he was out of town and the SC national guard didn't have its CIC directing the war. I mean come on. A governor could leave the state for a month without anyone knowing and it wouldn't make a difference.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 12:20 PM (HDgX3)

 

Governors don't direct natural disaster response?

I mean they aren't great about it here in MO, but I'd hate to have an F-5 pass through a city and not have one around.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 08:25 AM (GaqMa)

58 Colbert's sister, Ashley Judd, the intellectual heft team D has for 2014 is starting to scare me.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at April 03, 2013 08:25 AM (epxV4)

59

Simply put. If he can not remain faithful in his oath to his wife, he can not remain faithful in his oath to his constituents.

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Only if there is some other younger hotter state out there. If SC will give him the love he needs, he won't go looking for it over the border.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 03, 2013 08:25 AM (SO2Q8)

60
Well, he's our guy now




Hmmm..... nope.




Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 03, 2013 08:25 AM (kdS6q)

61 well, geez, I think heteros have already pissed on marriage as an institution enough already. The same people who did that are now the ones pushing homosexual marriage. It's not the traditionalists.

Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 08:25 AM (MMC8r)

62 I know Ace hates what I'm about to say and he'll say it's pointless and silly to embargo negative things about Republicans but... This is the kind of Will Folks Sacred Duty To Be Brutally Honest About Republicans stuff I'm talking about. I'd rather be pimping this guy Sanford instead of acknowledging and rehashing his faults. That's what the Left does and they can make red and purple turn blue.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2013 08:25 AM (uff2W)

63 Well, he's our guy now. I wouldn't have risked a seat on him (assuming he had any decent competitors), but that's the bet the party has made.



Unless he does something else stupid he will win this race in a walk.  The only problem is the North Charleston area is heavy Dem territory.  The rest of the district is all Republican.

Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 08:25 AM (53z96)

64
Once again, this type of thinking is why we lose and they win. It's a big part of why Romeny lost too. He wasn't perfect so TruCons stayed home. Well great, instead of getting a fiscal conservative who had an affair, you'll get a moonbat Democrat. But you'll show him!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 12:24 PM (HDgX3)


How many friggin times is this bullshit going to have to be debunked?  Do you even give a damn, or are you a Democrat, just sticking to a narrative, and damn the torpedoes?

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 03, 2013 08:26 AM (5SJfP)

65 The reason to vote for Sanford is to prevent Colbert going from insufferable d**k to a gloating insufferable d**k.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 03, 2013 08:26 AM (Vk2pI)

66 50% of marriages don't end in divorce. That's a made up statistic.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 03, 2013 08:26 AM (ZPrif)

67 I think heteros have already pissed on marriage as an institution enough already. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 03, 2013 12:18 PM (f9c2L) ------------------------------------------------------------ THIS^^. It is kind of funny because the Heterosexual model of marriage has an over 50% fail rate. How could it get any more ruined? That being said, I think a union of homosexuals is not a marriage either and I am not for it. Domestic Partnerships? Yes. Marriage? No.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 03, 2013 08:26 AM (jucos)

68 The answer is adding a second girl to the mix.

Posted by: Mark Sanford at April 03, 2013 12:24 PM (4cRnj)

don't forget the Val-U-Rite.  Oh and throw in a couple Russian hookers.

Did someone just yell "PARTY!?"

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 08:26 AM (x3YFz)

69 The bit about "I will die knowing I found my soul-mate" was an egregious over-share. Especially when part of the problem here is the public humiliation of the wife.

Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 08:26 AM (LCRYB)

70 Seriously Ace.

Are you going to correct Malor or not? A number of us seem to care about his deceptive and absurd wording on the headline comments for today; I know you were talking about the use of language and such... doesn't this qualify?

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 08:26 AM (El+h4)

71 32 Shit happens. People fall in love even while they're married. Hell.. half the population of married couples get divorced, and a lot of it is because they tire of each other and/or find someone else. So, hey.. whatever. And as an aside, all this talk about letting homosexuals get married because it would ruin the institution of marriage.. well, geez, I think heteros have already pissed on marriage as an institution enough already. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 03, 2013 12:18 PM (f9c2L) Heh.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp whose marriage was a mockery at April 03, 2013 08:27 AM (DGIjM)

72 And take a look at his squeeze.

http://www.thestate.com/


Yes, like a screen door.

Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 08:27 AM (53z96)

73 When we establish something as an Ideal, what does that mean? Doubtless we know the "ideal," selfless thing to do (sacrifice the self for the wife and the kids). Do we praise that behavior or do we insist on it as normal and blame all who fall short? Do we take the ideal as something to be aspired to or the minimum requirement for acceptance in decent society? I think that's a difficult question also. As with all difficult questions, the Left tries to resolve it and so they say, "Bah! Away with standards, mankind is perfectible and if he can't achieve a goal, then it is not a worthy goal."

Posted by: AmishDude at April 03, 2013 08:27 AM (T0NGe)

74 @37 My understanding was that his staff didn't know where he was. That's a no-no in my book for the chief executive but, as I said, he's not running in my state so I may not have all the details correct. I wouldn't not vote for him because of the affair and I wouldn't not vote in the general election over anything. If I thought he would do a better job of advancing my principles in DC then I'd vote for him.

I'm pessimistic enough to think that all we're doing at this point is whistling on our way to the gallows so I certainly understand the LIB crowd but I'm stubborn enough to try to fight it on the way down.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 03, 2013 08:27 AM (44PWr)

75 It is kind of funny because the Heterosexual model of marriage has an over 50% fail rate. How could it get any more ruined? That being said, I think a union of homosexuals is not a marriage either and I am not for it. Domestic Partnerships? Yes. Marriage? No.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 03, 2013 12:26 PM (jucos)

Gay and lesbian folks are no more or less committal than the rest of us.  It's a non-point.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 08:28 AM (x3YFz)

76 Yes, the solution to the ruination of marriage by heterosexuals is...

To create two new extra kinds of marriage (?)

This is dream logic. You know, to get the paper, you have to eat the banana.

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 08:28 AM (El+h4)

77 "Gay marriage!!" HOORAY! Havent seen you in minutes !

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 03, 2013 08:28 AM (fsH2r)

78 If there is one Republican in his district who stays home or votes for the Democrat because of his affair, may I be the first to say FUCK YOU to that Republican.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 12:16 PM


I hate the left to the point where I don't care if a repub pistol whips his wife in a fucking stained wife beater. We are up against the slime of humanity, so morals mean nothing to me at this point.

Posted by: Berserker at April 03, 2013 08:28 AM (FMbng)

79

"At his age, the thinking goes (I think), he ought to be wise enough to know that the sort of "love" sung about in songs is an intense but ephemeral thing."

 

Let me tell you this:  it does not have to be an ephemeral thing.  My second marriage is going on 7 years, and we love each other even more than at the outset, which was staggerlingly intense.  True that the emotional intensity has levelled off (i.e. we don't cry with joy very often now, which we used to do quite often), but it's even stronger, now that we have a foundation of daily life to build on.  We enjoy listening to love songs from our youth, then say to each other "Now I know what they were singing about!"

 

I wish this for each of you, simultaneously knowing how rare and precious it is.

Posted by: disa at April 03, 2013 08:28 AM (R+h7Q)

80
The answer is adding a second girl to the mix.

Posted by: Mark Sanford at April 03, 2013 12:24 PM (4cRnj)


And video equipment. Can't forget that.

Posted by: joncelli at April 03, 2013 08:28 AM (RD7QR)

81 That went real far with Scott Brown, now didn't it?
I'm certain that you'd be just tickled pink at the idea of Christie 2016 as well.


I would have voted for Brown over Fauxcahontas; I would take Christie over Obama. Neither is perfect, but both are better than the alternative.
You stay home and bask in your purity. The Dems thank you for that.

Posted by: real joe at April 03, 2013 08:28 AM (5X+/S)

82 Wow, just googled "Steven Colbert's sister".  Her name is Elizabeth Colbert-Busch.  Except for her helmet of ash blonde hair in most photos, they look just alike.  Yes, he is holding multiple fundraisers for her and there are many articles which say she can win.  She is the Director of Business Development at Clemson University's Restoration Institute.

Did you know that Colberts were from a family of 11 kids?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 03, 2013 08:28 AM (kXoT0)

83 Especially when part of the problem here is the public humiliation of the wife.

Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 12:26 PM (LCRYB)

 

 

Yeah, if I every say that and it's not about my wife (current wife, not any future wife) she has every right to shoot me.

Either I've found my soul mate, or I've proven I can't be trusted with the choice at all there's really not much middle ground on this one.

 

(I suppose there's the possibility that my wife goes before I do, given my health that's unlikely, but anyway, in which case the whole experience changes my entire outlook on life and shit, but barring that it's a stupid statement.)

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 08:29 AM (GaqMa)

84 The same people who did that are now the ones pushing homosexual marriage. It's not the traditionalists. Posted by: zsasz
.......
What bullshit.  Show me any Christian congregation in this country that doesn't have its share of divorces.  Traditionalists?  They're traditionalists until the day the want to get unhitched.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 03, 2013 08:29 AM (f9c2L)

85 @AmishDude

No, I think you have it wrong.

The Left sets up both sides of this debate. The first (their real position) is the strong side: "Away with all ideals!" The second, the weak side (provided for us) is "well, it's complicated."

Small surprise which side wins.

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 08:29 AM (El+h4)

86 Thank you, Ace, for nailing this one. Sanford had an affair and admitted his love for the woman. And now he's gonna marry her. People may be rolling their eyes over the political-chess part of this story, but if he found true love, G-d bless him.

Posted by: Joejm65 at April 03, 2013 08:30 AM (+ygda)

87
He'll have a fair shot if Stephen Colbert remains neutral on his show...
Posted by: t-bird




Oh, you are just adorable!

Colbert Report: http://tinyurl.com/arp8bcu

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 03, 2013 08:30 AM (kdS6q)

88 >>>Simply put. If he can not remain faithful in his oath to his wife, he can not remain faithful in his oath to his constituents Sexual weakness does not translate to political weakness. Base biological urges can easily trump rational thought, but what "urge" would arise where he would betray his constituents? Not like West Virginia is going to tempt him with sexy hillbillies. That said, he is still an asshole who will tarnish the entire GOP, all for the sake of his personal power trip.

Posted by: wooga at April 03, 2013 08:30 AM (mi68K)

89 >>>I'd rather be pimping this guy Sanford instead of acknowledging and rehashing his faults. That's what the Left does and they can make red and purple turn blue. simply pimping a product without any thought would be even more boring for you to read than it would be fore me to write. Though it would be close. No one reads those posts. You just assume OTHER people are reading them, so you want more of such posts to influence others. Trouble is, other people are just as bored by predictable product-pimping as you are, and also won't read them. I really can't disagree with this strongly enough, this idea that victory flows from dumbness and unwillingness to think and debate. I often get pissed when people suggest stuff along these lines. The Founders would never support such a thing, the idea that political rhetoric must be relentlessly on-message and strictly patrolled against politically unhelpful remarks. That's something the Politburo believes. I don't. This is an elephant in the room. It does no one any favors to pretend it's not there.

Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 08:31 AM (LCRYB)

90

I hope I'm wrong, but I see Sanford losing.

 

He'll probably get just as many votes as any republican would be expected to get in a special election in a +14 district, but the democrat vote is going to be big.

 

That's just the way liberals think.  If Colbert's sister is running, it will be fun to vote.

 

Sanford will probably get the seat back in 2014, but this one is going down.

Posted by: jwest at April 03, 2013 08:31 AM (u2a4R)

91

Gotta say Ace, I don't get your line of thinking at all. 

 

At what age do men stop being capable of falling in love?  Is it always phony, or just after 40? 

 

Jeez, the guy dumped one  dame for another.  It happens ALL THE TIME.  Just most of  the time it's not somebody running for elective office.  If that's what you  were having trouble getting, I would be on board with you, but you seem to think this is some sort of man bites dog thing. 

 

It's not. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2013 08:31 AM (TOk1P)

92 How about if he had just apologized for running away and left it at that? I don't care whether he fell in love with the new woman or not. His lovestruck gushing was weird and unseemly and we could have done without seeing that.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 03, 2013 08:31 AM (6zgse)

93 It is kind of funny because the Heterosexual model of marriage has an over 50% fail rate. How could it get any more ruined? OK, let me pull back the curtain on marriage. Ready? It's for women. It's not for men, it's for women. 100% for women. You know all those "spousal benefits". They're for chicks. If we didn't reproduce sexually, we wouldn't have marriage. If women laid eggs, we wouldn't have spousal benefits. If there weren't marriage, Mark Sanford would have left Jenny a loooooooong time ago. If there were polygamy, she'd've married him realizing that at least 2 more would come into the fold. Moreover, when he finally divorced her, she could take him to the cleaners. Marriage actually worked, even in that case. Mark Sanford had to give up a lot to get his Latin squeeze.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 03, 2013 08:32 AM (T0NGe)

94 I'd like to say it doesn't matter but it does I guess. For some reason we will let a doctor who had an affair perform open heart surgery on us but we wouldn't let him vote for us in the house. 

Posted by: robtr at April 03, 2013 08:32 AM (rTgOf)

95

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 03, 2013 12:30 PM (kdS6q)

 

 

Perhaps I'm overly hopeful but that could totally backfire as well.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 08:32 AM (GaqMa)

96 Colbert's sister, Ashley Judd, the intellectual heft team D has for 2014 is starting to scare me.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at April 03, 2013 12:25 PM (epxV4)


Nope, she has a real resume.  Lots of business background and accomplishments.  That is not to say I hope she wins, I don't.  However, I would not dismiss her as an Ashley Judd.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 03, 2013 08:32 AM (kXoT0)

97 The oddest thing was his candor about it-- which felt strange, because we're not used to seeing candor after a political affair. Except I dont want to hear all his and his wife's personal shit. Both of them went on and on. blah. As far as being engaged -- they were divorced years ago. Why aren't they married? Is this going to be one of those Hwd dealies were they are engaged for 10 years and have kids and then split up?

Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 03, 2013 08:32 AM (TE8aX)

98 Her accent beguiled him.


That and the beejers.

Posted by: eleven at April 03, 2013 08:32 AM (KXm42)

99 89

So that means you'll let Gabriel Malor's intentional twisting of language stand?

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 08:32 AM (El+h4)

100 Did someone mention gay marriage?!?

Posted by: Gay Marriage, 24/7 Baby!!! at April 03, 2013 08:33 AM (ynTB7)

101 To think nude hiking the Appalachian Trail would have seemed more normal than what he did...

Posted by: Baldy at April 03, 2013 08:33 AM (opS9C)

102 Oh, you are just adorable! Colbert Report: http://tinyurl.com/arp8bcu Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 03, 2013 12:30 PM (kdS6q) I'm tempted to say that this should be reported as an independent expenditure, but then I remembered: The rules don't apply to Democrats.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 03, 2013 08:33 AM (Vk2pI)

103 I don't like Sanford.

But I'd vote for his son Lamont.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 03, 2013 08:33 AM (wtvvX)

104 This has nothing to do with the blatant revolutionary attack on social underpinnings that is "gay marriage". This is about the utter lack of shame of the political class .

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 03, 2013 08:33 AM (fsH2r)

105

This is the Post Clinton Era... the only thing which will make this an Issue... is if those on the RIGHT make it an issue.

 

If a Lefty brings it up???  Just say...'Bill, and Hillary'

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2013 08:33 AM (lZBBB)

106 Man I had forgotten how cool the first run Levitra commercials were...

"quality when it counts"...

sounds like they're selling Sigma-6...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 03, 2013 08:33 AM (LRFds)

107 Hell.. half the population of married couples get divorced, and a lot of it is because they tire of each other

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 03, 2013 12:18 PM (f9c2L)

Odd thing.  The longer I'm with my wife, the more I pat myself on the back for roping her in.  She isn't perfect, but she's a damn sight closer to perfect than anything else I've run across in the last 15 years.

Not to get mushy ::getting mushy:: but you can parade tight little bodies past me all day long.  I'll look, but like the big trout in the lake who doesn't get caught, I will never bite.

You just have to marry the right one.  Until you find the right one, don't get married.  It ain't rocket surgery.


Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 08:33 AM (x3YFz)

108 I can't believe I'm reading comments from grown adults lamenting a politician's dishonesty. Fact: All politicians are liars and most of them are crooks.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2013 08:34 AM (ZgBZU)

109 Nope, she has a real resume. Lots of business background and accomplishments. That is not to say I hope she wins, I don't. However, I would not dismiss her as an Ashley Judd. Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 03, 2013 12:32 PM (kXoT0) Not puffy enough...

Posted by: The Puffy Hat at April 03, 2013 08:34 AM (Vk2pI)

110 Simply put. If he can not remain faithful in his oath to his wife, he can not remain faithful in his oath to his constituents. Posted by: Hopeless at April 03, 2013 12:16 PM (qHQCW) I'm a Christian and know adultery is a terrible sin, but I actually don't subscribe to this. I think they are two separate things. The opposite is also not true. Faithful husband or wife politicians screw us over all the time.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 03, 2013 08:35 AM (6zgse)

111 What bullshit. I'd draw a venn diagram, but it wouldn't make any difference to you.

Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 08:35 AM (MMC8r)

112
I would have voted for Brown over Fauxcahontas; I would take Christie over Obama. Neither is perfect, but both are better than the alternative.
You stay home and bask in your purity. The Dems thank you for that.

Posted by: real joe at April 03, 2013 12:28 PM (5X+/S)

The Dems also thank you, the useful idiot, helping their cause along by acting in desperation every single election.


We have to run the mildest, most non-boat-rocking candidate possible at all times or face the annihilation of the country.  Well, we are indeed facing the annihilation of the country, but it is actually because of the constant slew of non-boat-rocking candidates that our 'FisCon' wing keeps trotting out.


Half the idea behind LiB is allowing the populace, a nation of shortsighted pleasure-seekers, to feel the consequences of their decisions and do an about-face before it is well and truly too late to do any good.


That's never going to happen, though, because you, and those like you, enable the Dems by forestalling the day of pain with your constant battlecry of We Have No Choice in every successive election I have seen since I began paying attention to politics.  0.o Roundabout twelve years, I was fifteen.  This has been going on for a long friggin' time.


If you want to know why the Left is winning, you need only stare hard at the man you see in the mirror before you take your rest tonight.


THAT MAN enables the Left, and doubles down on it by projecting his fault onto others who see more clearly than he.  >_>

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 03, 2013 08:36 AM (5SJfP)

113 107 Tangonine,

if you're getting tired of spouse you're probably doing things wrong y'know?

I am fond of mine, can't imagine slowing down with anyone else.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 03, 2013 08:36 AM (LRFds)

114 I guess he could have smoked crack with a hooker and made a comeback, hypothetically.

Posted by: Beagle at April 03, 2013 08:36 AM (sOtz/)

115 This is an elephant in the room. It does no one any favors to pretend it's not there.

Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 12:31 PM (LCRYB)

 

 

I'd add that this doesn't strike me as a conservative evangelism (in the non-religious sense) blog.

Let the RNC and Co pimp Sanford, that's their job, the advertising wing of the party  We're pretty much all members of the fold arguing over the direction to take things next.

 

When you redevelop your product (whatever it is) you're marketing team has to still sell the original until the new one comes out on the market, their job should not effect the design team whose job it is to criticize everything.

We're not the marketing team.  I don't begrudge anyone one it, but it's not us, if someone want's that they should go join that particular team.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 08:36 AM (GaqMa)

116 I'd rather be pimping this guy Sanford instead of acknowledging and rehashing his faults. That's what the Left does and they can make red and purple turn blue. I'm with you. The Commies let NOTHING stop them. Nothing. Bribes in the freezer? Caught on tape smoking crack? Dead girl at the bottom of the Chappaquidick? The Commies never, ever, EVER take their eyes off the prize. And they keep winning. And winning. And winning. We fall into circular-firing-squad mode, and we keep losing.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at April 03, 2013 08:36 AM (7ObY1)

117 The opposite is also not true. Faithful husband or wife politicians screw us over all the time.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 03, 2013 12:35 PM (6zgse)


Exactly, Pelosi and Reid are faithful spouses with marriages in the 50+ year range and I would not trust either one of them with a leftover hard boiled Easter egg.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, FLLDFC Gangstette Wily Wench at April 03, 2013 08:36 AM (kXoT0)

118 And take a look at his squeeze.

http://www.thestate.com/


Yes, like a screen door.

Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 12:27 PM (53z96)



Ok, I realize as a woman I may not see 'it'....but I ain't seeing it.  Mildly attractive....very mildly.  They kinda look like siblings....

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 03, 2013 08:36 AM (X6akg)

119 OT: ING Bank has "technical glitch," customers reportedly have negative balances.

Posted by: Baldy at April 03, 2013 08:37 AM (opS9C)

120 I really can't disagree with this strongly enough, this idea that victory flows from dumbness and unwillingness to think and debate. But who doesn't know he hiked the Argentinean tailtrail?

Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 03, 2013 08:37 AM (TE8aX)

121 He wasn't perfect so TruCons stayed home. Well great, instead of getting a fiscal conservative who had an affair, you'll get a moonbat Democrat. But
you'll show him!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 12:24 PM (HDgX3)

Um... really?  At least you're not calling him perfect...

I'd rather be pimping this guy Sanford instead of acknowledging and rehashing his faults. That's what the Left does and they can make red and purple turn blue.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2013 12:25 PM (uff2W)


Really?  Ok.

Clearly I'm not understanding.

1) People have set patterns of behavior... someone who steals in the past will likely steal in the future... an aggressive abusing jerk now will be an aggressive abusive jerk in the future... right?

2) Sanford decided to violate his word, his promises, his oath (marriage) for his own personal gain with no concern for who he screwed over... THAT is his behavior isn't it?  What part of that in inaccurate?

So we need more congress people who will be on the lookout only for their selfish gains while giving less than a damn about the people who trusted them and got them into office?

I must be missing something; how does getting another self-centered self-absorbed douche looking out only for himself help Conservatives of any stripe?

Oh wait, you believe he's changed, he won't possibly do this again; he "loves" you, he'll be good for you... sure he's been a cad in the past but it's really going to be different this time... right?


When he sells you out for his personal benefit; don't come crying to me.
 Unless you're really looking for someone to tell you "I F***ING TOLD YOU SO YOU DAMN STUPID IDIOT".  Then go ahead and come to me.

Posted by: gekkobear at April 03, 2013 08:37 AM (X0NX1)

122 You just have to marry the right one. Until you find the right one, don't get married. It ain't rocket surgery.

A lot of marriages are entered into for all kinds of wrong reasons.  That's really the problem with marriage.

Marriage isn't broken, people just aren't doing it right.

Posted by: eleven at April 03, 2013 08:37 AM (KXm42)

123 You just have to marry the right one. Until you find the right one, don't get married. It ain't rocket surgery. Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 12:33 PM (x3YFz) ------------------------------------------------------- I married up and I know it. I worship the ground she walks on daily and I have been with her 30 years and married to her 23. Maybe I am just lucky.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 03, 2013 08:37 AM (jucos)

124 I don't get the argument that because many heterosexuals have bad marriages, then somehow SSM is justified. To me it's simply that words have meaning. Marriage is a man and a woman by age-old definition. I have no problem with giving same sex couples the same exact rights. It's just not a marriage.

Posted by: real joe at April 03, 2013 08:37 AM (5X+/S)

125 Does it matter that he's engaged to the woman he had an affair with now? I've always thought this was an interesting question: Was his bigger sin that he had a sexual affair or that he fell in love with the woman he had an affair with? --- The "sin" was in essentially abandoning his post and being a total flake about his emotional turmoil. And, iirc, there were some questionable trips/expenses that seemed to be him using his position as governor to piggy-back trips to see the squeeze. The guy came off as a hormone-addled thirteen year old. The "in love" stuff contributed to that, but primarily because he was completely ga-ga silly poems in love. Whatever happened to people realizing their marriage - or life - is not fulfilling them emotionally and taking time to re-tool their personal and professional lives without dragging down the people who are relying on them (their families, their employers)? No, this guy wanted it all. He wanted to be taken Seriously as Great Governor With A Big Future Politician while going through a second puberty, during which time he made a jackass of himself. Even now I wonder what his commitment is to the office for which he's running. Would he have run for Congress had he not left the Governorship in disgrace or is this just the best, easy job he can get?

Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 08:37 AM (5H6zj)

126 Simply put. If he can not remain faithful in his oath to his wife, he can not remain faithful in his oath to his constituents.
Posted by: Hopeless at April 03, 2013 12:16 PM (qHQCW)

I dated a screaming hot model (if you ettes get J.Jill catalogs, she's one of the models).  We had a chat about Clinton and this topic of faithfulness and how it indicates character.  She didn't get it.  Couldn't make the connection.  Comm major from Columbia (right?  wtf was I thinking?). 

Told her to go pound sand a month later.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 08:37 AM (x3YFz)

127 14 beagle,

he lacks a few key ingredients...

1) balck

2)democratonium

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 03, 2013 08:38 AM (LRFds)

128 It's worth noting that if Sanford is a decent pol with a strong spine, you have to be willing to let him hash this stuff out -- at least he is being honest about it instead of throwing up the usual B.S. screen. Bill Clinton was a win for the Dems and look what a philanderer the guy is. If Sanford has a chance of being a strong voice in favor of curtailing the Leviathan and killing it for good, the warts can be overlooked.

As far as I can tell, none of this was illegal, yes?

This doesn't mean pimp him because he's 'better than a democrat' but rather, don't throw him under the bus because of some of his flaws; you need to look at the whole picture.

For example, Barky has probably never even thought of cheating on his wife. Does that make him worthy of a senate seat, much less a presidency?

Of course, what he did is wrong; but as one economist said, without a freedom to fail, a system becomes fragile.

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 08:38 AM (El+h4)

129 He's gonna own the European vote, too. Rich guys have a right to a mistress over there. I heard a radio interview with some woman who was promoting a book on men and women and going on various conservative talk shows. You know what women most want to hear? Not "I love you" but "I will take care of you". So the European upper crust tolerated and tolerates affairs, even the wives, because they know that they will be taken care of and that the cost of divorce is high. So let him have his honey or two, she might have her own and she won't be left destitute.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 03, 2013 08:38 AM (T0NGe)

130 Governors don't direct natural disaster response?I mean they aren't great about it here in MO, but I'd hate to have an F-5 pass through a city and not have one around.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 12:25 PM (GaqMa)


_____________


For fuck's sake. The choice is this guy or Stephen Colbert's sister. And you're debating whether or not to vote for him because had a tornado ripped through his state he wouldn't have been around to direct the response.

REALLY?


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 08:38 AM (HDgX3)

131 Was Sanford a good Governor?

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp whose marriage was a mockery at April 03, 2013 08:39 AM (DGIjM)

132 I'm sure we'll have jeenyus consultants telling us why it's so awesome that this dipshit won the primary. Looking at you, Rick Wilson.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 08:39 AM (RIPnD)

133 OT - but the lefties must be twisting themselves in knots over this: TIME: Your mother — she was your protector. She often carried a gun, she seemed to be very fond of guns. Did you inherit your mother’s fondness for guns? MAYA ANGELOU: Well, I do like to have guns around, I don’t like to carry them. But I like -- if somebody is going to come into my house and I have not put out the welcome mat, I want to stop them. TIME: Have you ever fired a weapon? ANGELOU: Of course! TIME: At a person? ANGELOU: I’ve fired it period, not at a person I hope! I was in my house in North Carolina. It was fall. I heard someone walking on the leaves. And somebody actually turned the knob. So I said, "Stand four feet back because I'm going to shoot now!" Boom! Boom! The police came by and said, "Ms. Angelou, the shots came from inside the house." I said, "Well, I don't know how that happened."

Posted by: RWC at April 03, 2013 08:39 AM (fWAjv)

134 I married up and I know it. I worship the ground she walks on daily and I have been with her 30 years and married to her 23. Maybe I am just lucky.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 03, 2013 12:37 PM (jucos)

you and me both brother!  I spend most of my days wide-eyed. 

(the first one that says "bushy tailed" gets throat punched)

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 08:39 AM (x3YFz)

135 Posted by: Tami at April 03, 2013 12:36 PM (X6akg)


Well I thought she was hawt. But I am an old fart.

Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 08:40 AM (53z96)

136 11 Also, Ace, I really hate when people refer to "the party" as if it is a hive mind. There was a crazy multi-way primary, Sanford was the most well-known name, so he got into the top 2 and the other guy was apparently not so appealing. So a majority of runoff voters figured Sanford was better. I know what you mean, but it's a pet peeve with me. Posted by: AmishDude at April 03, 2013 12:12 PM (T0NGe) ******** I was going to come in with some variant of the this gripe. The electorate of South Carolina decided, they had a choice.

Posted by: Frank Rich, Theater majeur at April 03, 2013 08:40 AM (r2PLg)

137 32 Shit happens. People fall in love even while they're married. Hell.. half the population of married couples get divorced, and a lot of it is because they tire of each other and/or find someone else. So, hey.. whatever. And as an aside, all this talk about letting homosexuals get married because it would ruin the institution of marriage.. well, geez, I think heteros have already pissed on marriage as an institution enough already. -------------- The 50% divorce stat is junk math. Please show your work or cite the data you are using.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at April 03, 2013 08:40 AM (gWdNj)

138 The Dems also thank you, the useful idiot, helping their cause along by acting in desperation every single election.

You are moving the goal posts. I didn't want Romney, Christie or Brown, but when the general election comes, I see no other choice. I will not sit out the election.
Again, go bask in your purity while the country burns.

Posted by: real joe at April 03, 2013 08:40 AM (5X+/S)

139 Is this about GAY MARRIAGE? Because if it isn't about GAY MARRIAGE, what is the use of posting it?

Posted by: Augustus Caesar at April 03, 2013 08:40 AM (A71EA)

140 Okay, Ace, instead of pimping Sanford how about you tear apart Colbert's sister? It is the next best thing, after all. Our product sucks. But nevermind our product, their product is horrible and wants to kill you!

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2013 08:41 AM (hNqVf)

141 Holy Crap--El stinko. Left a Frank Rich sock on. oops.

Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 08:41 AM (r2PLg)

142 Was Sanford a good Governor?

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp whose marriage was a mockery at April 03, 2013 12:39 PM (DGIjM)



He was probably the best governor we have ever had. At least as long as I have lived in this State.

Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 08:41 AM (53z96)

143 >>>At what age do men stop being capable of falling in love? Is it always phony, or just after 40? the soul-mate talk is a sign of early stages of oxytocin-fueled crush-love. That part of it does not last. No one in the world wants to hear about someone's soul-mate and such. as far as falling in love past 40-- I actually agree with your point. However, I think (think as in "speculate;" I'm nowhere near sure of this) that part of why Sanford's crush-love is deemed to be worse than the typical politician sociopathic release-sex affair is because we don't forgive such silliness in older, wiser people.

Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 08:41 AM (LCRYB)

144
As mentioned if he was a dem, he would be celebrated for his actions.  To tell the truth, it seems he actually fell in love with the gal, rather than just getting a lewinsky so seems to me much better although he should have went for the divorce first.

But as the lesser of two evils, SC should vote for him because giving another seat to the unmitigated evil of the dem party is just crazy, but they will choose their poison.  I hope they know she would vote straight-line pelosi.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 03, 2013 08:41 AM (IY7Ir)

145 For fuck's sake. The choice is this guy or Stephen Colbert's sister. And you're debating whether or not to vote for him because had a tornado ripped through his state he wouldn't have been around to direct the response.REALLY?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 12:38 PM (HDgX3)

 

Uhh well I don't live in SC, so no.

But if I did, also no.  The primary hashed out you get what you get.  Any decision I would have made against him would have been in the primary stage.

After that it's "Lesser two evils" time.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 08:42 AM (GaqMa)

146 And another seat bites the dust...

I would say he's not trustworthy. But that seems to be a positive quality with the current crop of voters. Maybe loathsome? Nah, that seems to be a popular fad also.

He will lose because it plays to the Republican Parties greatest weakness- divisiveness.

Overtly religious people won't vote for him due to moral issues.
Women won't largely vote for him due to his wife's predicament.
Voters will once again show apathy is genetically a Republican disease.

So just like the buffoon sitting in the White House, the opposition wins by Republican default. Because we'd rather eat our young, then watch them grow up.

Posted by: Marcus at April 03, 2013 08:42 AM (GGCsk)

147 The Dems also thank you, the useful idiot, helping their cause along by acting in desperation every single election. Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 03, 2013 12:36 PM (5SJfP) The problem is that when the Dems loose, they simply have to put off the advance of socialism by an election or two - they have lost nothing. When a GOPer looses, what they and we have lost will likely be permanent. Unfair, but such is life.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 03, 2013 08:42 AM (Vk2pI)

148 So Sanford's wife agreed to try anal?  Or was that the other politician dude?

Posted by: Fritz at April 03, 2013 08:42 AM (UzPAd)

149 >>Shit happens. People fall in love even while they're married. People allow themselves to fall in love with someone besides their spouse. It's a process, not a lightning strike. If you're committed to your relationship, you recognize the temptation and change your circumstances so it doesn't happen. People have bad marriages. That's fine. But be an adult about it. Fix it or move on. THEN fall in love with someone new.

Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 08:43 AM (5H6zj)

150 BTW- If Colbert's sister gives me a boob flash- I might think about voting for her.

Posted by: Marcus at April 03, 2013 08:43 AM (GGCsk)

151 Can't find anything more recent... "From the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Vital Statistics Reports, Volume 58, Number 25, Births, Marriages, Divorces, and Deaths: Provisional Data for 2009: The divorce rate of 3.4 was exactly half the marriage rate of 6.8"

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 03, 2013 08:43 AM (feFL6)

152 142 Was Sanford a good Governor? Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp whose marriage was a mockery at April 03, 2013 12:39 PM (DGIjM) He was probably the best governor we have ever had. At least as long as I have lived in this State. Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 12:41 PM (53z96) I hope he wins.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp whose marriage was a mockery at April 03, 2013 08:43 AM (DGIjM)

153 Don't worry, the National Bloggers Club's got this.

Posted by: Shoot Me at April 03, 2013 08:44 AM (qiXMt)

154

Sanford's wanted anal?

 

It IS about gay marriage!!!11!!

Posted by: Augustus Caesar at April 03, 2013 08:44 AM (A71EA)

155 She's hot Vic.

Posted by: eleven at April 03, 2013 08:44 AM (KXm42)

156 OT: Gaza launches rockets into Israel, Israel fires back and the BBC headline is Isreal Breaks Truce -- assholes.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 03, 2013 08:44 AM (TE8aX)

157 When a man marries his mistress he creates a job opening.

Right?

Yes, I know that "that's the way things are" but what marriage used to give was at least a measure of material security in society to children and to wives in the face of fickle emotion.   It doesn't do that any more.   Fickle emotion rules.   Huzzah!

Our "feelings" give us the right to screw up our children's lives and destroy our spouses finances because nothing is more important than being in love.   Because screwing up children's lives and destroying the ex financially is what a loving person does.  Right?

So, yay, Sanford is in love.  Whoop-de-doo.

Reminds me (as this sort of thing often does) of staying with a lady when I came back from the Philippines (I was briefly "homeless" and a kind stranger took me in while I found a house at my new PCS) who's husband had been on an unaccompanied tour in the PI and got himself a girlfriend (yeah, happens).  He didn't understand (according to her) why none of his children were speaking to him (after all, it was between him and his *wife*) and had asked his wife not to do anything because... this is the kicker... HE hadn't decided yet.   Like, somehow, it was up to him?

I've got no sympathy, even if I can find some empathy for the human condition.   It's easy to empathize...  we really shouldn't sympathize or excuse or stop at least promoting the ideal of responsibility, faithfulness, and selfless virtues.

Posted by: Synova at April 03, 2013 08:44 AM (xyWmb)

158 118 And take a look at his squeeze. http://www.thestate.com/ Yes, like a screen door. Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 12:27 PM (53z96) Ok, I realize as a woman I may not see 'it'....but I ain't seeing it. Mildly attractive....very mildly. They kinda look like siblings.... Posted by: Tami at April 03, 2013 12:36 PM (X6akg) ____________ Oh wow. She looked better before. She's gotta lose that ombre hair dye thing. yikes.

Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 08:44 AM (r2PLg)

159 @75 Is that statistically true or just the right thing to say? Gay divorce % = straight divorce %? There must be actual numbers ah from up there in the snow. Vermont is a state right?

Posted by: Beagle at April 03, 2013 08:44 AM (sOtz/)

160
As far as I can tell, none of this was illegal, yes?
Posted by: RiverC




The 37 ethics violations he plead no contest to, as well as the associated 100k+ fine, would argue otherwise.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 03, 2013 08:44 AM (kdS6q)

161 "For fuck's sake. The choice is this guy or Stephen Colbert's sister."

Hah... misread that and thought it said "GAY or Stephen..."

was reaching for the gay button.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 08:44 AM (x3YFz)

162 BTW- If Colbert's sister gives me a boob flash- I might think about voting for her. Gack. That's a man, baby.

Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 08:45 AM (MMC8r)

163 I'm gonna have to keep nagging, or this ain't gonna get done. I get to be annoying cop today. Or maybe, forever. Whatever. Gabriel Malor needs a correction from the person that owns and runs this blog. We forget, but the internet remembers and so does the subconscious.

I. will. not. stop.

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 08:45 AM (El+h4)

164 So is this a thing?

.

Or, dare I ask, is this  something?

Posted by: logprof at April 03, 2013 08:45 AM (+iA5G)

165 you and me both brother! I spend most of my days wide-eyed. (the first one that says "bushy tailed" gets throat punched) Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 12:39 PM (x3YFz)

Relax.  It's "bright-eyed and bushy tailed" not wide-eyed.

But are you like...deer-in-the-headlights-wide-eyed?

::: runs ::::

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 08:45 AM (sbV1u)

166 ...and this is why I hate people.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Shogun at April 03, 2013 08:45 AM (fMiHM)

167 Marriage isn't broken, people just aren't doing it right. Posted by: eleven at April 03, 2013 12:37 PM (KXm42) Granted, I have never been married, but I believe one of the problems is equating marriage with romantic love. Romantic love is nice and all, but marriage is a deeper commitment, a covenant, and I think if people would be committed to going through rough patches together rather than giving up too soon, marriages would last longer. Not saying one has to stay with an abusive or adulterous spouse, but the whole "irreconcilable differences" thing.... Gah. I once read a book that reported on a survey done on married and once-married couples. The marriages that stayed intact and those that broke up were not different with regard to marital problems. They found that difference was that the couples with intact marriages were committed to staying together and making the marriage work. I think if people had a more sober view of marriage, they would be more circumspect about picking spouses and getting married. Again, I have never been married, so take it for what it's worth.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 03, 2013 08:46 AM (6zgse)

168 was reaching for the gay button. Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 12:44 PM (x3YFz) --------------------------------------------------- There's a gay button?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 03, 2013 08:46 AM (jucos)

169 I. will. not. stop. Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 12:45 PM (El+h4)

Then you'll be mocked relentlessly.

Enjoy.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 08:46 AM (sbV1u)

170 152 Jumbo Shrimp,

I think him running is retarded, I am also pretty sure I'll fund the dumbass.

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 03, 2013 08:46 AM (LRFds)

171 "...many would say that at Sanford's age, such a thing -- the juvenile excitement of "new love" -- is childish and unseemly. At his age, the thinking goes (I think), he ought to be wise enough to know that the sort of "love" sung about in songs is an intense but ephemeral thing."

It would seem that way, yes, but when you've been banging the same piece of tail for decades and a new one comes along, you just somehow make room in your heart.


The Heart wants what the Heart wants.....and by "Heart", I mean "penis".


Posted by: Kasper Hauser at April 03, 2013 08:46 AM (HqpV0)

172 What Y-Not said. The guy is a fucking narcissistic 15 year old on the inside. Do not want. Its not about just putting warm "R" bodies in office. Unless Olympia Snowe is your idea of acceptable.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 08:46 AM (RIPnD)

173 Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 12:33 PM (x3YFz)

+1000

Posted by: GMan at April 03, 2013 08:46 AM (sxq57)

174 Dem's vote for whoever wins the primary. Period. Full stop. It could be a mule wearing a straw hat. They would still vote for it.

Republicans throw darts at their candidates. They pick apart their lives like they're some contestant on 'Idol". Then they don't show up to vote. Coup de grace? They blame everyone else and lament how the world isn't fair or something.

Posted by: Marcus at April 03, 2013 08:46 AM (GGCsk)

175 Obama's nominee for Secy of Energy looks like the inspiration for the psycho in No Country for Old Men.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 03, 2013 08:46 AM (mN8D3)

176

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 03, 2013 12:46 PM (6zgse)

 

We should make C.S. Lewis's "The Four Loves" required reading in high school .

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 08:47 AM (GaqMa)

177 Oh look, Republicans once again went full retard in the primary.  Let's make him the official spokesman for the sanctity of traditional marriage as long we're being stupid.

Why even give the Democrats/MSM a chance to beat us up?  Whatever the guy's ideology, he would have had 99% the same voting record as his opponent, but we've now given a great big opening for Democrats.  I'm sure female voters will take another look the GOP after nominating the guy that ran off with some Spring Break hookup.  And let's not forget the incredible judgement this guy showed being a sitting Governor and leaving the country without telling anyone.

Way to go.

Posted by: McAdams at April 03, 2013 08:47 AM (bhmq1)

178 168 was reaching for the gay button. Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 12:44 PM (x3YFz) --------------------------------------------------- There's a gay button? Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 03, 2013 12:46 PM (jucos) _______________ I think it's right next to the Hot Air button.

Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 08:47 AM (r2PLg)

179 There's a gay button? It's usually on every link in the morning thread.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 03, 2013 08:47 AM (feFL6)

180

143 -

 

That's why I'm not going to listen to a word of this silliness, because I don't want to hear ANYBODY talk about their love and soul mates and all the rest of that tommyrot. 

 

So put me on the list as voting for falling in love at any age, and wanting adults to be mature about it... which of course INCLUDES not giving press conferences  on the topic. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2013 08:47 AM (TOk1P)

181

I was going to come in with some variant of the this gripe.

 



The electorate of South Carolina decided, they had a choice.

 

 

Posted by: Frank Rich, Theater majeur at April 03, 2013 12:40 PM (r2PLg)

 

 

Yeah... funny how a 'Party' which is says it is for State Rights, and Self Determination, tries to make EVERY political choice National.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2013 08:48 AM (lZBBB)

182 169

I've really been feeling the mocking, let me tell you.

Let me go turn up the A/C, it's getting unseasonably hot in here.

Really everything Bowden said was true. Normal conservatives really just want to give in. You just have to peel away the layer of rationalization and outrage.

We going to see some consistency, or just complaints about consistency?

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 08:48 AM (El+h4)

183 I once read a book that reported on a survey done on married and once-married couples. The marriages that stayed intact and those that broke up were not different with regard to marital problems. They found that difference was that the couples with intact marriages were committed to staying together and making the marriage work. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 03, 2013 12:46 PM (6zgse)

A marriage can survive anything, anything at all, with only one exception.

Contempt.

Let that creep in on the part of either party, and it will end.  It's only a matter of time before all the dominoes fall.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 08:48 AM (sbV1u)

184 I assume they'll elect him. If he loses, that's a big self-inflicted doucheshot to the head by the SC GOP.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 03, 2013 08:48 AM (ZshNr)

185 Dem's vote for whoever wins the primary. Period. Full stop. It could be a mule wearing a straw hat. They would still vote for it. Posted by: Marcus at April 03, 2013 12:46 PM (GGCsk) A mule wearing a straw hat would be an improvement...

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 03, 2013 08:48 AM (Vk2pI)

186

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 12:46 PM (RIPnD)

 

 

Sadly the time to take care of that is passed.

The choice now is not "Is Olympia Snow acceptable" it's "is this other guy worse"

(To continue your comparison.)

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 08:48 AM (GaqMa)

187 Well, he's our guy now. I wouldn't have risked a seat on him (assuming he had any decent competitors), but that's the bet the party has made.


A dumbass bet like the party of stoopid always makes.  Sure he's human garbage but he's our human garbage.  What could go wrong with that?

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 03, 2013 08:48 AM (DZSFY)

188 But are you like...deer-in-the-headlights-wide-eyed?

::: runs ::::

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 12:45 PM (sbV1u)

Generally?  yes.  I've found people let you go to the front of the line when you do that.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 08:48 AM (x3YFz)

189 There's a gay button? It's a myth.

Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 08:48 AM (MMC8r)

190 I. will. not. stop. Spare us. Seriously. You have been heard and ignored. Let it go. This is Ace's house, not yours.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 03, 2013 08:49 AM (T0NGe)

191 Another troll reveals itself as such. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2013 08:49 AM (TOk1P)

192 We going to see some consistency, or just complaints about consistency? I complain about consistency, but only sometimes.

Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 08:49 AM (MMC8r)

193 If the man votes a fairly consistent and  conservative line- who cares what Chiquita he boffed?

Posted by: Marcus at April 03, 2013 08:49 AM (GGCsk)

194 Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 12:45 PM (El+h4) I wasn't going to say anything, but you really need to calm down, go get a smoke, and just make fun of Gabe's usage of language if that's what you want. No one else cares 3 threads later.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at April 03, 2013 08:49 AM (xAtAj)

195 189

Wrong; that's the countermyth.

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 08:49 AM (El+h4)

196 Ok, so I went and looked for other pics of her because maybe the one Vic posted wasn't a true indication of her looks.


I stand by my original observation....but again, as a woman I may not get it.



http://tinyurl.com/bns9xmq




Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 03, 2013 08:50 AM (X6akg)

197 .....

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp cant find the gay button at April 03, 2013 08:50 AM (DGIjM)

198

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 03, 2013 12:46 PM (6zgse)

 

 

Yeah... amazing how many divorces there are right AFTER the kids grow up.... and that reason to stay together, is gone.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2013 08:51 AM (lZBBB)

199

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at April 03, 2013 12:49 PM (xAtAj)

 

 

Plus Ace has made it abundantly clear that he doesn't adjust other Cob-Log's writings. It's that simple.

This blog isn't a messaging board, if you've got a problem take it up with Gabe.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 08:51 AM (GaqMa)

200
Its pretty clear Colberts sister didn't get the entertainment gene.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 03, 2013 08:51 AM (IY7Ir)

201 A marriage can survive anything, anything at all, with only one exception.

Contempt.


Excellent point Sean.  Once the sarcasm starts it's all over but the shouting.

Posted by: eleven at April 03, 2013 08:51 AM (KXm42)

202 Generally? yes. I've found people let you go to the front of the line when you do that. Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 12:48 PM (x3YFz)

LMFAO.

I too married well, well above my station.  Every morning I look at her and think, "And she married ME!  :::: pause ::::   Why?"

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 08:51 AM (sbV1u)

203 181 I was going to come in with some variant of the this gripe. The electorate of South Carolina decided, they had a choice. Posted by: Frank Rich, Theater majeur at April 03, 2013 12:40 PM (r2PLg) Yeah... funny how a 'Party' which is says it is for State Rights, and Self Determination, tries to make EVERY political choice National. Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2013 12:48 PM (lZBBB) *********** well it's sort of ironic how I left my Frank Rich theater majeure sock on for that comment but-- unfortunately the media will make it a national event.

Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 08:51 AM (r2PLg)

204 This blog isn't a messaging board, if you've got a problem take it up with Gabe. Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 12:51 PM (GaqMa) I had to check RiverC's last post to make sure it wasn't a sock. It read like a sock.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at April 03, 2013 08:52 AM (xAtAj)

205 Excellent point Sean. Once the sarcasm starts it's all over but the shouting. Posted by: eleven at April 03, 2013 12:51 PM (KXm42)

Been there.  Done that.  

It sucks.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 08:52 AM (sbV1u)

206 My opinion is that this is the gy the SC district chose.  As far as the finger-pointing from the democrats,  I would point out that we have a huge number of similar,  if not far more serious cases of the exact same thing from democrats.

My personal feelings and sympathies for Mrs. Sanford aside,  I am not willing to have to force our candidates to live up to the standards set for us by the democrats,  while they themselves have NO standards except winning.

In a less stressful age before we realized that we had a president and a party who were determined to destroy the country,  I might have been outrged at Sanford's running. 

Now?  Shove him in their faces.  Elect him,  and take no crap about adultery when we have Robert Menendez PAYING for sex with underage Dominican hookers with illegally donated money from a crony who got government contracts. 

I cannot imagine under any circumstances that he will not do a better job that the sister of a smirky Hollywood semi-comedian.


Posted by: Miss Marple at April 03, 2013 08:52 AM (GoIUi)

207 Again, go bask in your purity while the country burn

Let It Fucking Burn.  It needs to at this point.

Posted by: GMan at April 03, 2013 08:52 AM (sxq57)

208 Palestinians vs Israel is very similar to the Gays vs Us thing here in the US. Israel is just sitting there minding its own business trying to live and let live and then BOOM! an explosion courtesy of Gaza Palestinians. Then Israel says hey knock it off and the Palestinians and their supporters scream why are you so anti-Palestinian, you haters?!?!

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2013 08:52 AM (0w+w3)

209 I assume they'll elect him. If he loses, that's a big self-inflicted doucheshot to the head by the SC GOP. Again. This was a primary. People made choices. I certainly don't like the outcome, but there it is. They couldn't stop him from running for the primary, so there's no SC GOP to blame.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 03, 2013 08:52 AM (T0NGe)

210 He paid only 74K on those "ethics violations" which were largely a crock of shit.

http://www.wltx.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=85249

Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 08:52 AM (53z96)

211 My    opinion of the man doesn't matter at this point,    and mattered little from the start.  It'll be up to the voters of SC to decide if they'll elect him or not.  If they do, I hope he doesn't prove a disappointment.    If they don't, God have mercy on us all.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 03, 2013 08:52 AM (4df7R)

212 Posted by: Tami at April 03, 2013 12:50 PM (X6akg) Yeah, the new squeeze is in good shape and attractive, but I don't think she's all that hot. But what do we know? We're just chicks. They do look related (see the eyes and nose).

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 03, 2013 08:53 AM (6zgse)

213

201 -

 

Frankly, I'd rather have the shouting.  I've  seen couples that work on perfecting their contempt for each other for years and years. 

 

Please, someobody punch the other one so we can be put out of OUR misery. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 03, 2013 08:53 AM (TOk1P)

214 208 Soothsayer,

I am anti-Palestinian because I am pro-pizza...

Posted by: Harlekwin15-Emergency back Up Angst ID at April 03, 2013 08:53 AM (LRFds)

215 196 Ok, so I went and looked for other pics of her because maybe the one Vic posted wasn't a true indication of her looks.


I stand by my original observation....but again, as a woman I may not get it.



http://tinyurl.com/bns9xmq




Posted by: Tami at April 03, 2013 12:50 PM (X6akg)


--You didn't see the string bikini pics, did you?


(Mind you, I'm not at all condoning his betraying his wife, just making a call on the other chick's looks.)

Posted by: logprof at April 03, 2013 08:53 AM (+iA5G)

216 Excellent point Sean. Once the sarcasm starts it's all over but the shouting. shooting. You don't know my wife.

Posted by: zsasz at April 03, 2013 08:53 AM (MMC8r)

217 EoJ, thanks for the SIII review. My phone's at least six years old and the buttons are starting to go so it might be time to haul myself into the smart phone era.
PROS: The Horde in my pocket. CONS: I'm on this ancient and incredibly cheap plan so if I change I'm looking at a big jump in costs. PROS: Shiiiiinnnyyy. CONS: I might need two hands to hold it. I shall continue to ponder.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 03, 2013 08:53 AM (VtjlW)

218 And the ACU only gave him a 92 rating.

Sheesh

Posted by: Courtesy Flush at April 03, 2013 08:53 AM (8lB0x)

219 but that's the bet the party has made.

That's the bet the registered party members in the district he seeks to represent have made.

(Am I the only person who resents people who live eight states away telling me who I can or can't have represent me?)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 03, 2013 08:53 AM (/kI1Q)

220 196 Ok, so I went and looked for other pics of her because maybe the one Vic posted wasn't a true indication of her looks. I stand by my original observation....but again, as a woman I may not get it. http://tinyurl.com/bns9xmq Posted by: Tami at April 03, 2013 12:50 PM (X6akg) ____________ Again it's the hair dye. Wrong color. It's washing her out. During the affair there were pics of her with the true brunette coloring--much better IMO.

Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 08:54 AM (r2PLg)

221 I stand by my original observation....but again, as a woman I may not get it. As a guy I don't see any 'babe' factor there. Pleasant looking, yeah. That's about all. // course Mrs Regular Moron got a 9.2 on 'Hot or Not' years ago. No, no pics.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 03, 2013 08:54 AM (feFL6)

222 The divorce rate of 3.4 was exactly half the marriage rate of 6.8 ------ I've read up on this a bit and everyone concurs that the numbers floating around are crap because of the assumptions that go into generating them. Do you measure divorce rate as number of divorces per year or per person or per marriage or what? What seems to be the case is that some people get a lot of divorces while some people never get divorced (even if they're miserable). But I don't think it's accurate to suggest (as some do; not saying that's you) that a marriage has a 50% chance of winding up in divorce.

Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 08:54 AM (5H6zj)

223 Tami at April 03, 2013 12:50 PM (X6akg) She's got that Kennedy woman look - coarse from too much sun, booze, drugs, sex,and cigs

Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 03, 2013 08:54 AM (TE8aX)

224 I had to check RiverC's last post to make sure it wasn't a sock. It read like a sock.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at April 03, 2013 12:52 PM (xAtAj)

 

 

Just to be clear, that wasn't directed at you HoboJerky, it was a follow-up to your comment!  An addendum if you will.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 08:54 AM (GaqMa)

225 194

Which is exactly my point. Haven't you figured it out? We complain in one thread about language being used against us; Language is used against us in another thread by 'one of our own', and three threads later we forgot it even happened; no correction, no one wants to be 'that guy', the one that gets ostracized for making a locally political point about a very basic level of message consistency on the level the language itself;

Fortunately I'm not a conservative. I don't mind being demonized or mocked, it's no big deal, but Gabe is full of it and using his position here to advance an agenda that is against all of our best interests, even those of us who support homosexual partnerships.

But it 'doesn't matter' because, according to Sean Bannion, essentially no one wants to be mocked by a bunch of silly sockpuppets.

This is the spine of the Republican party. This is the top conservative blog. Didn't think the Tories still lived on these shores, maybe I was wrong?

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 08:54 AM (El+h4)

226 Do we really need to go through the list of Democrat sexual/marriage exploits and then say- well- we're better than that as an excuse for not voting?

As if that's a substitute for reasoning.

I am a little sick of the self-righteousness.

Posted by: Marcus at April 03, 2013 08:54 AM (GGCsk)

227
“I look forward to a vigorous campaign that focuses on creating jobs, balancing our country’s budget and choosing an independent-minded leader who shares the values of the great people of South Carolina,” said Colbert Busch.




Bingo,  Putting San the Man up lets the Democrat run as the "Kinder, Kuche, Kirche" canidate in a conservative state. There's 10 points right there.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 03, 2013 08:55 AM (kdS6q)

228 The wife was a Snap-E-Tool heiress which makes her a keeper in my book.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 03, 2013 08:55 AM (TE8aX)

229 Palestinians vs Israel is very similar to the Gays vs Us thing here in the US.

Israel is just sitting there minding its own business trying to live and let live and then BOOM! an explosion courtesy of Gaza Palestinians.

Then Israel says hey knock it off and the Palestinians and their supporters scream why are you so anti-Palestinian, you haters?!?!

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2013 12:52 PM (0w+w3)


--I believe it was Jonah Goldberg who made the point that as much as they piss and moan about it, it's always liberals who re-ignite the culture wars.

Posted by: logprof at April 03, 2013 08:55 AM (+iA5G)

230 The divorce rate is higher generally speaking in Republican states. A lot of that is due to the fact more Republicans get married to begin with than Democrats. But still. all this holier than though talk is bullshit. When 2 can no longer stand to be in the same room together, they leave. Republican. Democrat, whatever. It's ridiculous for strangers to opine on this subject in the first place. You have no idea what Sanford and his wife's relationship was like. For all you know they were sleeping in separate beds and only together for his political career. Who knows? It's none of my business and it has absolutely ZERO impact on how he would be as a congressman.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 08:55 AM (HDgX3)

231 The Heart wants what the Heart wants.....and by "Heart", I mean "penis".


Posted by: Kasper Hauser at April 03, 2013 12:46 PM



Well my mom died almost 2 years ago. My father met a new women and is acting like a teenager at 74, and even lets her carry his balls in her purse. There is no fucking age limit on stupidity.

Posted by: Berserker at April 03, 2013 08:55 AM (FMbng)

232 But I don't think it's accurate to suggest (as some do; not saying that's you) that a marriage has a 50% chance of winding up in divorce. Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 12:54 PM (5H6zj) Correct. That would only be true if you have 0 information about the two people getting married. Given that they have never married before, I'm guessing the survival rate shoots up dramatically.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at April 03, 2013 08:55 AM (xAtAj)

233 I too married well, well above my station. Every morning I look at her and think, "And she married ME! :::: pause :::: Why?"

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 12:51 PM (sbV1u)

we should stop talking about fight club.  I married a woman with more degrees than a thermometer, is so screaming hot that when I look at her I see a girl in a bikini walking out of a river with a "come get me, throw me in your truck and let's go get this thing stuck" look.  Every day.

Nothing short of a miracle.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 08:56 AM (x3YFz)

234 This is the spine of the Republican party. This is the top conservative blog. Didn't think the Tories still lived on these shores, maybe I was wrong?

Your "concern" has been duly noted.


Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 08:56 AM (sbV1u)

235 What seems to be the case is that some people get a lot of divorces while some people never get divorced (even if they're miserable).

Kind of like abortions or STDs, eh?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 03, 2013 08:56 AM (/kI1Q)

236 If I could vote in his district, I would probably end up voting for him since he seems to have a pretty solid conservative record (according to Vic) and I wouldn't want to help Obama become lord, dictator, and petty tyrant OTUS (any more so than he is now). However, I don't think I could bring myself to campaign for him.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 03, 2013 08:56 AM (6zgse)

237 Hahaha, I just found out that Sanford is running against Elizabeth Colbert Bush! er, Busch...wtfever. Now if his campaign can't find anything funny in that to deflect the expected broadsides from her brother, we are truly lost.

Posted by: CitizenEgg at April 03, 2013 08:56 AM (RB0el)

238 50% of marriages don't end in divorce. That's a made up statistic.

True dat! The real statistic is 50% of marriages end in a brutal murder with an assault weapon, or a pistol with more than 7 shots in the magazine. Source: The Obama gun control team.

Posted by: An Observation at April 03, 2013 08:56 AM (ylhEn)

239 @ River C It is not Ace's place to "correct" Gabe. He will allow him to post whatever he wants. If it's out of line with his loose-ass policies on cob behavior, he'll pull his posting privileges. Give it a rest. There'll be another gay marriage thread in the morning, assuming Gabe wakes up.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 08:56 AM (RIPnD)

240 My mom is neighbor's with Colbert's mom. Not sure if there is any inside info there. Guess I need to needle a little bit, just to have some "content" to post here.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at April 03, 2013 08:57 AM (4Mv1T)

241 Putting San the Man up lets the Democrat run as the "Kinder, Kuche, Kirche" canidate in a conservative state.

And if she really believed that, she wouldn't be running for Congress, she'd be in a kitchen somewhere.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 03, 2013 08:57 AM (/kI1Q)

242

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 03, 2013 12:53 PM (VtjlW)

 

 

AtC, I've got a Nokia Lumnia 920 and I like it a lot.  Thing is quite durable.  And it comes in shiny colors.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 08:58 AM (GaqMa)

243 When is the election?

Posted by: Misophonia Sufferer / Serious Cat at April 03, 2013 08:58 AM (UypUQ)

244 Sanfords squeeze has "man' eyebrows. Usually means there is a jungle down below. If I were to guess she probably has a baritone voice too.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 03, 2013 08:58 AM (jucos)

245
The problem is that when the Dems loose, they simply have to put off the advance of socialism by an election or two - they have lost nothing.

When a GOPer looses, what they and we have lost will likely be permanent.

Unfair, but such is life.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 03, 2013 12:42 PM (Vk2pI)


Yes sir, that being my point about having to feel the consequences at some point or other.


In a sense, we're already here.  >_>  The situation isn't ideal, but we are indeed beginning to feel the consequences of our decisions.  Whether it is in time to awaken the populace at large is anyone's guess.  LiB.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LiB at April 03, 2013 08:58 AM (5SJfP)

246 I know! Maybe posting about it One More Time will get Ace to give a shit!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at April 03, 2013 08:58 AM (xAtAj)

247 But I don't think it's accurate to suggest (as some do; not saying that's you) that a marriage has a 50% chance of winding up in divorce. True, because that was only looking at one years worth of data on a per thousand basis. You'd have to average about 70 to 80 years to get a clearer picture. Which is too much math for me. But it is kinda disturbing.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 03, 2013 08:58 AM (feFL6)

248 Well my mom died almost 2 years ago. My father met a new women and is acting like a teenager at 74, and even lets her carry his balls in her purse. There is no fucking age limit on stupidity. --- My dad went through a teenaged boy phase as well after my mom died (about 20 yrs ago now). Drove me nuts. Eventually wound up re-marrying. Wish he'd stayed in the teenaged boy phase, frankly, as his new marriage doesn't seem that happy.

Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 08:58 AM (5H6zj)

249 The divorce rate is higher generally speaking in Republican states. A lot of that is due to the fact more Republicans get married to begin with than Democrats.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 12:55 PM (HDgX3)

stats, numbers and links or it didn't happen.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 08:58 AM (x3YFz)

250 >>>Well, he's our guy now. I wouldn't have risked a seat on him (assuming he had any decent competitors), but that's the bet the party has made. So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at April 03, 2013 08:59 AM (OFKz5)

251 we should stop talking about fight club. I married a woman with more degrees than a thermometer, is so screaming hot that when I look at her I see a girl in a bikini walking out of a river with a "come get me, throw me in your truck and let's go get this thing stuck" look. Every day. Nothing short of a miracle. Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 12:56 PM (x3YFz)

Is your wife my wife's sister?  I married a professional dancer who is finishing her PhD.  

Bro!  Christmas at your house next year!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 08:59 AM (sbV1u)

252 SC GOP in his district. Look, the guy was a Governor, there's no reason a district wouldn't look to him to run for Congress after his term. I just don't remember people blaming District 6 for Barney Frank, or District 9 for Nancy Pelosi. What is this the Hunger Games already? I assume he'll win and he'll hopefully be a reliable vote, but the guy has been a punchline up and down the Western Hemisphere, that's going to be an elephant in the room no matter what.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 03, 2013 08:59 AM (ZshNr)

253

“I look forward to a vigorous campaign that focuses on creating jobs, balancing our country’s budget and choosing an independent-minded leader who shares the values of the great people of South Carolina,” said Colbert Busch.

 

When I read that,   this is what I see:

 

"I look forward to words that every politician says during a campaign, regardless of party or ideology, because people will listen to anything and most are too stupid to bother looking past the words to examine actions.   So blah, blah, blah, great people of    South Carolina."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 03, 2013 08:59 AM (4df7R)

254 Well my mom died almost 2 years ago. My father met a new women and is acting like a teenager at 74, and even lets her carry his balls in her purse. There is no fucking age limit on stupidity.

____________

I told my wife if I croak before her, I don't want in her in a perpetual state of mourning. I'm gone. Take a little time to be sad. Then go live the rest of your life. I died, not you.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 09:00 AM (HDgX3)

255 Looking forward to the extensive column space given to critically scrutinizing , analyzing, and discrediting Colbert's sister.You know, the actual enemy.
Is she in 'favor of marriage'?

Posted by: LeBron Steinman at April 03, 2013 09:00 AM (jfWE9)

256 239

http://tinyurl.com/7qyzcvn

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 09:00 AM (El+h4)

257 Just to be clear, if I lived there, I suspect I'd vote for him too, but I wouldn't be happy about it.

Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 09:00 AM (5H6zj)

258

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 12:56 PM (RIPnD)

 

Or Put differently "market place of ideas do you speak it Mother Fucker!" (because we do here.)

 

I too hate Gabe's constant moral superiority about this shit, I've learned just not to read his posts .

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 09:01 AM (GaqMa)

259 --You didn't see the string bikini pics, did you?
(Mind you, I'm not at all condoning his betraying his wife, just making a call on the other chick's looks.)

Posted by: logprof at April 03, 2013 12:53 PM (+iA5G)



I saw one pic from a distance of her sitting on the side of a boat and one from the side/back of her and him sitting on the beach?  Those? 

Posted by: Tami[/i] at April 03, 2013 09:01 AM (X6akg)

260 Not sure if divorce rates really reflect in political ideology. It's much more different across race and socio-economic lines.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at April 03, 2013 09:01 AM (xAtAj)

261 At least he's pre-disastered on the mistress thing. So, that won't be a worry in the future.

Posted by: Ook? at April 03, 2013 09:01 AM (OQpzc)

262 River, it isn't so much that Gabe is "advancing an agenda" here, as he is giving his opinion on one issue. Conservatives may have a set or range of core beliefs that put them in the C camp, but I don't believe we need to be in lockstep on every issue like Dems.
For example, I don't agree with Let it Burn. To me, that is surrender and I am not yet ready to give up. It's burning anyway, but I still want to fight.

Posted by: real joe at April 03, 2013 09:02 AM (5X+/S)

263 (Am I the only person who resents people who live eight states away telling me who I can or can't have represent me?) Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 03, 2013 12:53 PM (/kI1Q) Welcome to the nationalization of politics. Since the stakes are now so high and the margins by which issues are decided are so small, every race now has national implications. That being the case, everyone believes they have a right to opine since, as a practical matter, that vote from that guy/gal eight states over does impact my life.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 03, 2013 09:02 AM (VtjlW)

264 RiverC at April 03, 2013 12:54 PM (El+h4) Gabe gets ragged on all the time for his bullshit, including the thread you are referencing. Do I wish Ace would correct the offensive language? Yes. But whether he does or not, we don't "fire" people for doing something we disagree with. It's not going to happen. But feel free to keep getting on Malor's case.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 03, 2013 09:03 AM (TE8aX)

265 Is your wife my wife's sister? I married a professional dancer who is finishing her PhD.

Bro! Christmas at your house next year!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 12:59 PM (sbV1u)

2 PhD womenz that are hot?  (mine is a retired military officer, so... kit up accordingly).  Your safety is not guaranteed.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 09:03 AM (x3YFz)

266 So this is when we circle inwards, aim, and fire because anyone who says he is maybe a weak candidate is helping the Democrat. Everyone smoke your last cig and blindfolds up.

Posted by: Beagle at April 03, 2013 09:03 AM (sOtz/)

267 That being the case, everyone believes they have a right to opine since, as a practical matter, that vote from that guy/gal eight states over does impact my life. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 03, 2013 01:02 PM (VtjlW)

Precisely.

Sea Salt Caramel Brownie?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 09:04 AM (sbV1u)

268 After 4 kids, my wife ballooned up to a size 2. Normally I don't appreciate when bitches be lettin themselves go, but that's why I know we have a mature love. It doesn't bother me.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 09:04 AM (RIPnD)

269

Meanwhile, in Egypt...

 

The U.S. Embassy in Cairo shut down its Twitter feed Wednesday following a public fight with the Egyptian Presidency and the Muslim Brotherhood over the arrest of an Egyptian television star.

 

Foreign Policy:  http://tiny.cc/pn5yuw

 

Gee, remember last time the US Embassy in Cairo had a Twitter fracas?   I seem to recall    it happening sometime last September.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at April 03, 2013 09:04 AM (4df7R)

270 263 (Am I the only person who resents people who live eight states away telling me who I can or can't have represent me?) Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 03, 2013 12:53 PM (/kI1Q) Welcome to the nationalization of politics. Since the stakes are now so high and the margins by which issues are decided are so small, every race now has national implications. That being the case, everyone believes they have a right to opine since, as a practical matter, that vote from that guy/gal eight states over does impact my life. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 03, 2013 01:02 PM (VtjlW) ________________ ^ This.

Posted by: tasker at April 03, 2013 09:04 AM (r2PLg)

271 stats, numbers and links or it didn't happen.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 12:58 PM (x3YFz)


____________


http://tinyurl.com/c2jb3zm

Link to the census


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 09:04 AM (HDgX3)

272

Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 03, 2013 01:03 PM (TE8aX)

 

 

Also I'm still not entirely sure that the Occam's Razor answer to this is "gabe is a miserable copy editor."

It's not the first time he's written an sentence riddled with typos.  (And if that's the case, but him on twitter.)

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 09:04 AM (GaqMa)

273 Since I dont live in SC... I trust the people who actually LIVE there to make the choice. People make mistakes.. every single day. Personally.. I dont know why he would want to continually answer the affair questions but...

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp still cant find the gay button at April 03, 2013 09:04 AM (DGIjM)

274 Is your wife my wife's sister? I married a professional dancer who is finishing her PhD. Bro! Christmas at your house next year! Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 12:59 PM (sbV1u) *sidles over* Here. Have this cake. The sprinkles on top? Extra goodness. *hides rat poison box*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 03, 2013 09:05 AM (VtjlW)

275 Gabe gets ragged on all the time for his bullshit, including the thread you are referencing. Do I wish Ace would correct the offensive language? Yes. 

Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 03, 2013 01:03 PM (TE8aX)

I've tangled with Gabe.  He's good people.

as far as offensive language?  put on your big kid pants and quit being a pussy.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 09:05 AM (x3YFz)

276 Fortunately I'm not a conservative.

This is the top conservative blog.


So why are you here?  No mocking, just wondering, seems odd.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 03, 2013 09:05 AM (IY7Ir)

277 --I believe it was Jonah Goldberg who made the point that as much as they piss and moan about it, it's always liberals who re-ignite the culture wars The Left fabricates these culture wars, in the first place.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 03, 2013 09:05 AM (0nyYS)

278 263 (Am I the only person who resents people who live eight states away telling me who I can or can't have represent me?)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 03, 2013 12:53 PM (/kI1Q)

______

For local / state offices, you're right. For national offices, you're damn right I will try to influence you. When a Democrat senator or congressman from the other 49 states vote it affects me as much as it affects you.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 09:05 AM (HDgX3)

279 After 4 kids, my wife ballooned up to a size 2. Normally I don't appreciate when bitches be lettin themselves go, but that's why I know we have a mature love. It doesn't bother me.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 01:04 PM (RIPnD)

 

I read these things then have to square them with that mushy ass video on your blog.  It makes the shtick far less enjoyable .

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 09:06 AM (GaqMa)

280 I like Mark Sanford.  The GOP really, really has to get over its "holier than thou" attitude.


Posted by: Al at April 03, 2013 09:06 AM (V70Uh)

281 >>>If you're committed to your relationship, you recognize the temptation and change your circumstances so it doesn't happen. good point. Really the best point. There's a reason for the old-timey separation of the sexes. I'm not saying we should go back to that, but anytime a married person feels that special thrill with another person, it's time to stop seeing that person in any context except what is absolutely required. Continuing to see that person, making excuses to communicate with that person, will lead to the place it always does.

Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 09:06 AM (LCRYB)

282 Eh, Sanford's pretty smart to run at this time. No one who's got a brain wants Brick O'Spazz to gain any more power so in 2014, he probably gets a pass and is elected. If Sanford ran for the 1st time since quitting in 2016? Probably not. This politics biz like show biz must be heady stuff. Once these bozos get a taste of it, they never stop trying to get more.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 03, 2013 09:06 AM (j2lYi)

283 After 4 kids, my wife ballooned up to a size 2. Normally I don't appreciate when bitches be lettin themselves go, but that's why I know we have a mature love. It doesn't bother me. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 03, 2013 01:04 PM (RIPnD)

What's her secret?  Mine only took one kid to go from 0 to 2. 

I'm gonna be keepin' 'dat pimp hand strong when I get home tonight, yo!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 09:06 AM (sbV1u)

284 *hides rat poison box*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 03, 2013 01:05 PM (VtjlW)

oh, my sexy little critter, I'll just send you some heels. 

You'll be fine

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 09:06 AM (x3YFz)

285 Never liked Sanford. But, with that said. I'm not going to judge him on his personal crap. For all we know his wife has been cheating for years with the pool man (for me it would be the UPS guy - so hot - and I thought all UPS guys were gay. I order waayy too much stuff these day, haha.) Anyway, it's no excuse the tit for tat stuff, but honestly we have no idea, and neither should we. Maybe they married too young, no true love, just thought it was the thing to do. And, then he/she found what they considered a soul mate. Live in misery the rest of your life, or enjoy it. As long as all kids are taken care of. I'm not sure if they have any, or how old they are if they do, but he looks old, so I'm assuming they are too. this a meh on the who cares scale

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 03, 2013 09:07 AM (XYSwB)

286

Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 12:58 PM (5H6zj)

 

I'll say flat out... unless there is some great financial benefit to to doing so... I'll never marry again.

 

Getting the Law involved in a relationship... getting the State to condone it... isn't needed.... if my Word is not good enough, no law will make the relationship last... if my vow to God does not help me remain faithful... no piece of paper will...

 

Legal Marriage today has become a way to penalize Men on break up... even though women constantly SCREAM about equality under the law... (and I say this as a Man who was a Full Time Single Parent of twins, from the time they were 1.5 years old, to adult).

 

So... I just will not play that game... and.... go my own way...

 

 

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2013 09:07 AM (lZBBB)

287 No. River is right. Language matters. Social affirmation of abberant sexual behavior :"It's just marriage. Don't you like marriage?" Stabbing a baby in the head and sucking out its brains:"It's. a choice. Don't you like choices?" Opposing the above on moral grounds:"It's just a camp. Don't you like camping?" "Gay marriage" is an intentional leftist assault on western civilization right from the commie playbook,and this here "award winning conservative blog " has its very own useful idiot.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 03, 2013 09:07 AM (fsH2r)

288 I don't have any problem with his pro-SSM stance, but to someone reading the blog who doesn't know his position (his name isn't Gay-briel Malor to a causal reader or LIV) will be sent a mixed message. I understand the policy of liberty vis a vis posting, but I'm sure any of you can easily construct a series of posts whose language are such that while following the 'letter' of such rules, they break or undermine the spirit of them. The manipulative 'endorsing marriage' line is just such a single example of what I mean.

I already talked to Malor about this, that would only have the possible effect of therapy; i.e. making me less angry about something I should be angry about; I have no power to make Gabriel change this wording that he is, in bad faith, committed to.

I think it's a serious issue and I should need to use a chain of expletives to make the point.

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 09:07 AM (El+h4)

289 Every single night Colbert's sister will get free advertising from her bro.

The young people who watch will vote for her, cause he asked them to vote for her.

Did democrats vote in the primary?

Posted by: Caustic at April 03, 2013 09:07 AM (/b8+5)

290 "Fortunately I'm not a conservative."

heh.  words to die by.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 09:08 AM (x3YFz)

291 *sidles over* Here. Have this cake. The sprinkles on top? Extra goodness. *hides rat poison box* Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Tea. at April 03, 2013 01:05 PM (VtjlW)

I also have a fondness for racktastic gingers.  Ask mpfs.

Jus' sayin'

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 09:08 AM (sbV1u)

292 "That being the case, everyone believes they have a right to opine since, as a practical matter, that vote from that guy/gal eight states over does impact my life. "

Ha Ha!  Think globally, act locally, Comrade Alex!

Posted by: Dem Victory Campaign Credit Card Verification Center at April 03, 2013 09:08 AM (HjPtV)

293
Continuing to see that person, making excuses to communicate with that person, will lead to the place it always does.

Posted by: ace at April 03, 2013 01:06 PM

This is what's gonna fuck up the military's bullshit "wymen uber alles" clause.  It's been bad enough on short tours.  Combat is gonna be brutal.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at April 03, 2013 09:09 AM (0It32)

294 Stabbing a baby in the head and sucking out its brains:"It's. a choice. Don't you like choices?"

"It's women's health care. Why do you want women to not have health care?"

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at April 03, 2013 09:09 AM (/kI1Q)

295 Heh, last line should have been 'should not need to use...'

But, whatever. The sense of the phrase remains in the absence of the proper negative modifier.

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 09:10 AM (El+h4)

296 oh, my sexy little critter, I'll just send you some heels.  You'll be fine  Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 01:06 PM (x3YFz)

You would have been better off with a Javelin, 4 pallets of ammo, and a lemon bar.

Something tells me I am going to have to go fetch the flamethrowers now.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 09:11 AM (sbV1u)

297 I already talked to Malor about this, that would only have the possible effect of therapy; i.e. making me less angry about something I should be angry about; I have no power to make Gabriel change this wording that he is, in bad faith, committed to.

I think it's a serious issue and I should need to use a chain of expletives to make the point.

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 01:07 PM (El+h4)

I take it you folks don't frequent the anti-idiotarian rottie site.  You would melt the fuck down. 

Lighten up Francis' (shout out to sean).  ya'll need to be worried about 54987 other things over Gabe's creative application of language.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 09:11 AM (x3YFz)

298

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 01:04 PM (HDgX3)

 

wait a sec.... how can the marriage and divorce rates be THAT different between men and women???

 

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2013 09:11 AM (lZBBB)

299 So... I just will not play that game... and.... go my own way... Posted by: Romeo13 at April 03, 2013 01:07 PM (lZBBB) as a woman.. I am with ya.. I will NEVER EVER EVER get married again. NEVER. This .. 'men only get screwed' is bullshit. My divorce.. case in point.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp still cant find the gay button at April 03, 2013 09:12 AM (DGIjM)

300 Did democrats vote in the primary?

Posted by: Caustic at April 03, 2013 01:07 PM (/b8+5)



They had their own primary with only 2 candidates.

Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 09:12 AM (53z96)

301 I'll say flat out... unless there is some great financial benefit to to doing so... I'll never marry again. -------- You know what that makes me think? That you probably were a great husband and would be one again! (Not that I'm criticizing your decision, mind you.) That's the sad thing. People who shouldn't get married, often are the quickest to do so. They want the party, the honeymoon, the role-playing etc. While people who have the emotional maturity and personal responsibility to be great husbands and wives, sometimes talk themselves out of it.

Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 09:12 AM (5H6zj)

302 Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 01:06 PM (sbV1u) Wow, you and EoJ have seriously high standards. Some of us have never been a size 2 and will never be until partway through the decomposition process after we have gone to meet our Maker. I do have a PhD though.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 03, 2013 09:12 AM (6zgse)

303 My dad went through a teenaged boy phase as well after my mom died (about 20 yrs ago now). Drove me nuts. Eventually wound up re-marrying. Wish he'd stayed in the teenaged boy phase, frankly, as his new marriage doesn't seem that happy. Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 12:58 PM



yeah thats my biggest fear, him marrying this CHUD. What pissed me off the most is that about 6 months after mom died I swear I thought I was going to see him on a beer commercial. He was going out with his friends 5 nights a week and coming home at 1-2am, he had all kinds of women around him, was talking about playing guitar in a band again. I updated all his guitars, got him new gear, got him ready, and poof, he meets jabba and it all went out the window. He went from the most interesting man in the world to a fucking lap dog.

Stupidity knows no age. He was married 52 years and has less freedom now than when he was married. I think that generation loves going from the frying pan into the blast furnace.

Posted by: Berserker at April 03, 2013 09:12 AM (FMbng)

304 "Did democrats vote in the primary?"

Yeah, but they were defeated.

Posted by: Shoot Me at April 03, 2013 09:13 AM (qiXMt)

305 Something tells me I am going to have to go fetch the flamethrowers now.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 01:11 PM (sbV1u)

Not at all.  Alex is good people. Known her from DPUD.  Just wave some leather calf length stompy boots in front of her and she's yours for life.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 09:13 AM (x3YFz)

306 I've tangled with Gabe. He's good people. as far as offensive language? put on your big kid pants and quit being a pussy. Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 01:05 PM (x3YFz) Yes, it's clear that you and gabe do greco-roman nude wrestling. So you put on some pants and stop being his bottom.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 03, 2013 09:14 AM (TE8aX)

307
At least he's pre-disastered on the mistress thing. So, that won't be a worry in the future.
Posted by: Ook




Sanford admitted to other affairs during his marriage, but claimed they didn't count because some undefined sexual-line wasn't crossed.

Ticking time bomb, Gloria Allred.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 03, 2013 09:14 AM (kdS6q)

308 Wow, you and EoJ have seriously high standards. Some of us have never been a size 2 and will never be until partway through the decomposition process after we have gone to meet our Maker.  I do have a PhD though.  Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 03, 2013 01:12 PM (6zgse)

No, it's that my wife had low standards.  

Seriously, the series of events that conspired to bring us together were ridiculous and improbable in the extreme.  It surely was not by design.  I'm a very, very lucky guy.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 09:15 AM (sbV1u)

309 While people who have the emotional maturity and personal responsibility to be great husbands and wives, sometimes talk themselves out of it. Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 01:12 PM (5H6zj) Or no one proposes to them.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 03, 2013 09:15 AM (6zgse)

310 297

For every real problem that could use fixing, there's some guy saying, "chill out," while the fences rot and the rabbits get in.

In this analogy, that guy is you, tango.

The fact that it is a small problem means that it is an easy one. When did you last weed your garden? "Oh, chill out, those are tiny tearthumb sprouts. That kudzu? Small."

Better to tackle the huge problems we can't do anything about.

/sarc

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 09:16 AM (El+h4)

311 6 We won't get anywhere in defeating the Left by electing adulterers, liars, and cheats. As Ronald Reagan said, politics is the oldest profession, and bears a strong resemblance to the second oldest profession. On the other hand, truth is over rated. Any guy who's ever been asked by his lady does this dress make me look fat? understands that intuitively.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at April 03, 2013 09:16 AM (1hM1d)

312 Again, I have never been married, so take it for what it's worth.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 03, 2013 12:46 PM (6zgse)



There is much wisdom in what you write as an outsider.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 03, 2013 09:16 AM (DZSFY)

313 Yes, it's clear that you and gabe do greco-roman nude wrestling. So you put on some pants and stop being his bottom.

Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 03, 2013 01:14 PM (TE8aX)

huh.  Your little panties *are* all wadded up aren't they?

Pro Tip:  stop while you're behind.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 09:17 AM (x3YFz)

314 For every real problem that could use fixing, there's some guy saying, "chill out," while the fences rot and the rabbits get in.  In this analogy, that guy is you, tango. Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 01:16 PM (El+h4)

Better get busy then, Sisyphus.

Just leave the rest of us out of it.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 09:17 AM (sbV1u)

315 >>Or no one proposes to them. Well, sure. But since I pursued my husband like a lioness stalking a gazelle, then proposed to him, I wouldn't let that stop me! ;-)

Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 09:18 AM (5H6zj)

316 This .. 'men only get screwed' is bullshit. My divorce.. case in point. So, you needed a better lawyer?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at April 03, 2013 09:18 AM (1hM1d)

317

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 01:16 PM (El+h4)

 

You do realize the problem you have in mind is correcting someone else's thinking

 

It's more like "that guy's lawn across the street is starting to look bad so I'm going to seize his home."

 

You want a lockstep blog, go find one, this sure as hell ain't it.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 09:18 AM (GaqMa)

318 The only voters who care are the so-cons, and we know they are already so fickle that they can't be bothered to turn out to vote for a real family guy like Mitt, but they be damned sure to support Akin to the hilt... okay, tjhat's just Huckabee.

Posted by: sexypig at April 03, 2013 09:19 AM (dZQh7)

319 Speaking of Greco-Roman nude wrestling I heard wrestling was gigged from the Olympics in 2020. So rhythmic gymnastics and golf, but not an original olympic sport still popular globally?

Posted by: Beagle at April 03, 2013 09:19 AM (sOtz/)

320 You do realize the problem you have in mind is correcting someone else's thinking  Posted by: tsrblke at April 03, 2013 01:18 PM (GaqMa)

This is a bad thing?

Scheiße!!

Posted by: Der Kommissar at April 03, 2013 09:20 AM (sbV1u)

321 @310: Everyone understood what was really going on with Gabe's post. It's not like it's a novel thing that he pushes gay marriage every day (ask EoJ). But your whining has reached "yes, I would cheer if the banhammer swung" proportions, no matter how sympathetic I am to misuse of English.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 03, 2013 09:20 AM (B/VB5)

322 And partly because many would say that at Sanford's age, such a thing -- the juvenile excitement of "new love" -- is childish and unseemly. At his age, the thinking goes (I think), he ought to be wise enough to know that the sort of "love" sung about in songs is an intense but ephemeral thing. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oh, nonsense. There is nothing in life that experience will not improve. Sex and love are two things that life experience can VASTLY improve. As if somehow we humans are super smart at love when we're 25 years old or something. Ridiculous. If most married people were honest I bet the VAST majority would admit to some misgiving about regrets of the past and the prospects for a new start. To some extent it is a miracle of commitment that some marriages stay together as long as they do.

Posted by: deadrody at April 03, 2013 09:21 AM (b2D8X)

323 For every real problem that could use fixing, there's some guy saying, "chill out," while the fences rot and the rabbits get in. In this analogy, that guy is you, tango. Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 01:16 PM (El+h4)

A wise NCO once said to me:  the worst enemy isn't the enemy, it's a hot head.  Experience has proven that over and over.  Slow is fast, fast is slow.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 09:21 AM (x3YFz)

324 >>318 The only voters who care are the so-cons I certainly hope the Republican wins, but I think there could be some exposure to the "war on women" argument. Moderate women or Indy women may have a visceral reaction against Sanford. I don't know if there are enough of them to sway the outcome of the election, tho.

Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 09:21 AM (5H6zj)

325 So, you needed a better lawyer? Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at April 03, 2013 01:18 PM (1hM1d) no. I had a good one. ugh.. its long story that nobody wants to hear.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp still cant find the gay button at April 03, 2013 09:23 AM (DGIjM)

326 A wise NCO once said to me: the worst enemy isn't the enemy, it's a hot head. Experience has proven that over and over. Slow is fast, fast is slow. Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 01:21 PM (x3YFz)

I got the same theme, different verse.

"There you go again, Lieutenant.  Thinkin' "
          - 1SG Larry R. Howell  Ft. Riley, KS  1986

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 09:23 AM (sbV1u)

327

As a Charleston native, IÂ’m truly ashamed that my hometown managed to beclown itself by electing this guy. You think people would know better.

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The voter turnout was pathetic, which makes this Sanford victory even worse. IÂ’d be willing to bet my paycheck that my family members down there didnÂ’t even vote.

Posted by: ICBMMan at April 03, 2013 09:23 AM (SRlAF)

328 Sorry about the break language.  I thought I needed to put that in to get a clear line between the sentences.

Posted by: ICBMMan at April 03, 2013 09:24 AM (SRlAF)

329 "I like Mark Sanford. The GOP really, really has to get over its "holier than thou" attitude." THIS. Democrats wouldn't care about this stuff. See Gavin Newsome. Clinton is now an honored statesman.

Posted by: sexypig at April 03, 2013 09:26 AM (dZQh7)

330 To some extent it is a miracle of commitment that some marriages stay together as long as they do. Posted by: deadrody at April 03, 2013 01:21 PM (b2D8X) My parents have been married 48 years... today. In the early years my mom could have left a half dozen times.. she didnt. they have a happy life. People change.. they just changed together. they are happy they did.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp still cant find the gay button at April 03, 2013 09:26 AM (DGIjM)

331 "There you go again, Lieutenant. Thinkin' "
- 1SG Larry R. Howell Ft. Riley, KS 1986

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 03, 2013 01:23 PM (sbV1u)

I laughed.  Still laughing as I type...

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 09:26 AM (x3YFz)

332 I like how a lot of folks here have no problem with the bastardization of language in a way that's designed to help the left.  Warm fuzzies.

Way to go guys!

Posted by: GMan at April 03, 2013 09:26 AM (sxq57)

333 You do know that Gabe refused to correct it right? Thereby leaving River in the ridiculous positipn of arguing that "gay marriage " was the proper term. And thus the conversation drifts leftward....... Old leftist. trick.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 03, 2013 09:29 AM (fsH2r)

334 Sanford's opponent was connected to a crook.  Marriage is not the only issue here.

Jeez.

Posted by: Shoot Me at April 03, 2013 09:29 AM (qiXMt)

335 So if libs don't vote for Sanford, are they hypocrites too?

Posted by: Iblis at April 03, 2013 09:33 AM (9221z)

336 I like how a lot of folks here have no problem with the bastardization of language in a way that's designed to help the left. Warm fuzzies.

Way to go guys!

Posted by: GMan at April 03, 2013 01:26 PM (sxq57)

You idiots are picking a fight over a missing word in a blog post.

Pause.  Really think about the ramifications of picking the fight.

Then unfuck yourself.  Tell us when you're done.

Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 09:33 AM (x3YFz)

337 It's not "missing" tango. That's the point. Gabe can do whatever he wants with his dick. He can't do whatever he wants with the language.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 03, 2013 09:38 AM (fsH2r)

338 tangonine, recalling that "women looking to trade up" situation, my wife taught me the Chinese say that as "riding a donkey looking for a horse."

Posted by: sexypig at April 03, 2013 09:38 AM (dZQh7)

339 "He can't do whatever he wants with the language." Actually, yes he can. There are no stone tablets for the English language. I see no Agency of Language to regulate it. Now, maybe in Germany or France...

Posted by: sexypig at April 03, 2013 09:39 AM (dZQh7)

340 Besides Ilike River ashe too.knows the joys of 75% off Easter candy.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 03, 2013 09:39 AM (fsH2r)

341 Sexypig do you know that when N and S Koreans speak to each other they can't effectively communicate? Divided by a common language. Same here. He is using the language of the left.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 03, 2013 09:43 AM (fsH2r)

342 Speaking as one whose district has, at one time or another, sent Dan Rostenkowski, Rod Blagojevich, and Rahm Emmanuel to Congress, all I can say is that I'm glad we're not the only doofuses in the US of A.

Posted by: Brown Line at April 03, 2013 09:43 AM (VrNoa)

343 "How many friggin times is this bullshit going to have to be debunked? " Sorry, but there actual commenters who appeared after the election was over, so happy to be back at Ace of Spades that said they would not and did not vote for Romney. Many actually. I do think its not just Tru-Cons, but some small percentage of a variety of types: Tru-Cons Anti-Mormon Christians (again a small percent of all Christains) Anti-Rich people who just cannot stomach banker types people who worried about Romneycare (fair enough.) Luap Nor Gary Johnson voters and I think Obama definitely got some uncoordinated fraud going his way. But I also think the GOP needs to look north to Harper for how to adapt. That guy actually gets stuff done, and its not all micro-ball that no one can figure out.

Posted by: sexypig at April 03, 2013 09:45 AM (dZQh7)

344 "Sexypig do you know that when N and S Koreans speak to each other they can't effectively communicate? Divided by a common language. Same here. He is using the language of the left." And yet we call both languages Korean. Languages can change, as per your example, and even diverge, but they do so by people changing the language which you claim he can't do.

Posted by: sexypig at April 03, 2013 09:47 AM (dZQh7)

345 BTW, I watched a special on North Korea where an eye surgeon from Nepal went there to fix 1,000 blind people. (You know your country is poor when Nepal is sending specialists to you and not the other way around.) So, these people all get fixed and the doctor removes their bandages in a big hall, and these people all rush the stage to bow down and THANK their dear leaders for getting their sight back. I saw no one thank the doctor. Now, that could be editing, but I bet they did not. Mainly because they are so afraid and brainwashed that they dared not to. Sick, sick sick.

Posted by: sexypig at April 03, 2013 09:49 AM (dZQh7)

346 313 Yes, it's clear that you and gabe do greco-roman nude wrestling. So you put on some pants and stop being his bottom. Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 03, 2013 01:14 PM (TE8aX) huh. Your little panties *are* all wadded up aren't they? Pro Tip: stop while you're behind. Posted by: tangonine at April 03, 2013 01:17 PM (x3YFz) No doubt you are an expert in men's behinds but I'm not interested.

Posted by: waldo at April 03, 2013 09:51 AM (TE8aX)

347 Gee. I wonder where Moo Moo stood on the COD nomination?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 03, 2013 09:52 AM (VwC86)

348 Oh he can. But only for purposes of adopting tactics for societal overthrow. Google up Yuri. Bezmenov

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 03, 2013 09:52 AM (fsH2r)

349 The old socon not voting myth again.  Anyone who believes that is too stupid to look at a map.  ALL of the socon States went for Romney.  FL, VA, and OH is where Romney lost.  Those are "moderate" States.

Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 09:57 AM (53z96)

350 Vic Ohio isn't moderate. It's conservative with small regions that need to do the neutron dance.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 03, 2013 10:01 AM (fsH2r)

351 Sorry, but there actual commenters who appeared after the election was over, so happy to be back at Ace of Spades that said they would not and did not vote for Romney. Many actually. --- IIRC Romney got more total votes than McCain did. He lost because his messaging and GOTV operations failed in the states he need to win. See Vic's post.

Posted by: Y-not at April 03, 2013 10:08 AM (5H6zj)

352 Actually, I didn't argue that 'homosexual' or 'same sex marriage' was the correct term, only that it was the term we were shoehorned into agreeing to use. Gabriel has the liberty, for the moment, to push his agenda via this blog, but I do not believe he has the liberty to push his agenda via the language. He's not even using the agreed-upon term; I am attempting to reason with the man, not foist upon him what I really believe, that any use of 'marriage' when coupled with 'homosexual' should be in quotes: homosexual 'marriages', to make it clear that the term marriage is being used incorrectly.

Posted by: RiverC at April 03, 2013 10:20 AM (El+h4)

353 Once again, this type of thinking is why we lose and they win. It's a big part of why Romeny lost too. He wasn't perfect so TruCons stayed home. Well great, instead of getting a fiscal conservative who had an affair, you'll get a moonbat Democrat. But you'll show him!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 03, 2013 12:24 PM (HDgX3)***


This myth has been exploded.  They lost because of minority women.  Move on, idiot.

Posted by: Klawnet at April 03, 2013 10:23 AM (ePxxX)

354 In addition to being a big, fat guy, I'm old and pretty much set in my beliefs. That's good news for the GOP because there's no way in hell I'd vote for Sanford if I were a SC resident. Fortunately that's not the case.

As someone said previously how can you trust a guy to adhere to an oath of office when he's proven unable to adhere to a vow of marriage? When he lied repeatedly to his wife but also his staff and the people of SC?

But hey.. it's ok. We have to beat the DEMS at all cost, right? If he wins and turns out to be just another turncoat RINO will that be ok too? At least we beat the DEMS.

"If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything." Learn it. Love it. Live it. My.02

Posted by: Really Fat Guy at April 03, 2013 10:25 AM (Je/il)

355 329 "I like Mark Sanford. The GOP really, really has to get over its "holier than thou" attitude."

THIS.

Democrats wouldn't care about this stuff. See Gavin Newsome.

Clinton is now an honored statesman.
Posted by: sexypig at April 03, 2013 01:26 PM (dZQh7)***


Because they're Democrats.  Go thou and be likewise, if that suits your standards.

Posted by: Klawnet at April 03, 2013 10:29 AM (ePxxX)

356 His opponent was a big-spending establishment guy who would have been in the pocket of the corrupt GOP establishment in SC - the ones who opposed Sanford and Haley and DeMint and Tim Scott.

Both men lived in the district for most of their lives.  Their professional lives were there, their community activities long before either was in politics.  But out of state bloggers have a hard time believing that the people in the district know more about both of the candidates than they do.

Some bloggers heard Curtic Bostic's name for the first time EVER at 8:00 Wednesday morning two weeks ago, and endorsed him at 8:05.  But why oh why don't those dumb hicks in SC listen to meeeeeee?

Sanford has a track record of budget cutting, fighting and vetoing spending, and reform.  Yeah, he's got the adultery thing against him, which every voter was well aware of.  You think we should have sent the big spender instead?  Then who would whine about Bostic being too establishment, too squishy?

Mark my words, the special election won't be close.  You would never suspect that if you get your news from Politico or Roll Call or National Journal, but remember they work for Obama and the last thing they want is a smart reformer in Congress.

Posted by: Adjoran at April 03, 2013 10:33 AM (9uOra)

357

Well, he won and the regime candidate lost.

 

We shall see what the people in his district have to say soon enough, and if the state party will support him. Personally? I regard him as a liability at this point, but I don't know if that is how he is veiwed by his constituants.

Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at April 03, 2013 10:54 AM (IanLz)

358 Vic Ohio isn't moderate. It's conservative with small regions that need to do the neutron dance.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 03, 2013 02:01 PM (fsH2r)



I've wanted to believe this but after voting for the JEF and Sherrod Brown twice, that state can't be called conservative.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 03, 2013 11:01 AM (DZSFY)

359 He is still popular here.  And yes, the corrupt SC GOP (who ran out of ballots during the 2008 primary in Myrtle Beach at 10 am) does not like him. 

Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 11:01 AM (53z96)

360 I've wanted to believe this but after voting for the JEF and Sherrod Brown twice, that state can't be called conservative.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 03, 2013 03:01 PM (DZSFY)



I think that was snark.

Posted by: Vic at April 03, 2013 11:02 AM (53z96)

361

355-Churchill did opium, Eisenhower porked his secretary and John F. Kennedy (founder of modern Special Forces) made his secretary give one of his pals a blowjob.

If Mark Sanford is willing to lower spending and isn't in the pocket of the corrupt GOP establishment, the I don't give a good goddamn about his Latina hussy. I have never looked at politicians for moral guidance. All I care about is that they don't fuck everything up and respect our freedoms-that's it. 

 

Posted by: Danny at April 03, 2013 11:21 AM (n5iOS)

362

@6: "We won't get anywhere in defeating the Left by electing adulterers, liars, and cheats."

 

Didn't get too far with a squeaky-clean, proper, loyal-to-his-family guy, either.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 03, 2013 12:35 PM (FsqHK)

363 The MSM loves to make Reps look ridiculous . And a man in Sanford's position can't be made to look ridiculous

Posted by: Jack Woltz at April 03, 2013 03:55 PM (z9OI2)

364 Who the hell is Mark Sanford?


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