1 who me first?

2 There's no way I'm first?!?!!

3 The 5% recovery is a lie too.  We have been flat-lining since lat 2008.  There is, and never has been, ANY recovery.

4 Dang it!

5 Many people WILL take a pay cut to not work.  I took a $20K cut when I retired.

6 Yep - saw this this morning. Looking at Welfare Benefits Packages as a whole, the states with the largest welfare packages are: 1. Hawaii- $49,175 2. District of Columbia- $43,099 3. Mass- $42,515 4. Connecticut- $38,761 5. New jersey- $38,728 6. Rhode Island- $38,632 7. New York $38,004 thegatewaypundit

7 We're actually worse off now, in the "recovery", than we were during the recession Monty. Median household income has dropped at almost 3 times a greater rate in the "recovery" than it did during the recession. http://tinyurl.com/nx5xjl4

8 let it burn

9 Durable goods orders, and Obamacare. One more for the trifecta.

10 Kitteh is snoozing while Rome burns.  He will always be able to survive after the collapse.  Rats will abound.

11

OT,  hat tip  to Insty:  Scotty Schlong gets taken to the woodshed for claiming today's GOP would call Reagan a RINO:

 

 

http://tinyurl.com/kypehbg

12

The Treasury will reach the debt limit by mid-October. Or I should say, "the charming genteel fiction known as the 'debt limit'", because it is obvious to every creature upon this earth that the heedless borrowing will go on and on until the SMOD ends it all.

 

Which is why Syria is so, so urgent.  Must wag the doggeh, after all.

13 Please go to Mark Steyn for senate and sign petition for him to run against the dem. http://steynforsenate.com HeÂ’d make a great senator! I hope everyone has a good day.

14 While we’re on the topic of being poor, read “In another country". depressing read

15 Which is why Syria is so, so urgent. Must wag the doggeh, after all. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 08:34 AM (zF6Iw) I'm still curious if we're gonna go with actual military targets this time or are we gonna bomb the shit out of some aspirin factories...

16 And what demographic is statistically the wealthiest segment of society?

The Belle Curve applies within a demographic as much as it applies across a population. There are seniors who are living on minimum Social Security just as much as there are well off Seniors with TWO public union pensions PLUS social security.

There is no reason why Warren Buffet should 'qualify' for social security just because he's over 72 years of age, nor should those public union pensioners. Social security should be for those who have nothing else.

This is called 'means testing', and the republicans are crucified every time anyone says anything about it.

17

Next thing you know we'll be hearing "it takes courage to wipe your ass after taking a dump" PSA's.

 

Finally, a job tailor-made for Mooch.

18 Let it burn....or, whatever.

19 While we’re on the topic of being poor, read “In another country".




He is wrong.  The problem is not "intractable".  All they have to do is cut off all forms of welfare.  That is ALL.



When they get hungry they will either work or starve. In the end some will be working and the others will be dead.  But very few, if any, new ones will be created.

20 19th!!!!


This comment makes just as much sense as "1st"

21 "prostitution is a private matter and no public funds should be spent on sex workers." I don't know...if the government is going to spend money to fuck you, it's nice to at least get an orgasm out of the deal.

22 4 The 5% recovery is a lie too. We have been flat-lining since lat 2008. There is, and never has been, ANY recovery. Posted by: Vic "Flat-lining" is perfect. The economy on the coast has been stone-dead since it was obvious the fix was in for ZerØ. Last trip to Tractor Supply for dog food? The already almost empty shopping center across 341? Lost another store. But the TV shows you happy pictures.... Idiots.

23

The Belle Curve applies within a demographic as much as it applies across a population. There are seniors who are living on minimum Social Security just as much as there are well off Seniors with TWO public union pensions PLUS social security.

 

I hear Belle's got pretty good curves.  Or so the Beast tells me.

24 Mostly, DOOM comes out on Monday.  Mostly.

25 Monty wears Bernanke like a cougar shaped condom.
 
Monty also takes on the geezers again, which is sure to draw retaliatory fire. My simple suggestion to this is to go to ANY casino in the US on a weekday from 9am to 5pm, and report back what you see.
 
I can tell you in advance -- It's wall to wall geezers. THAT's where the disposable income is at. Go take a look on your lunch break, wage slaves.

26 OT Posted this on last three: Any Western Carolina/Asheville morons around. Taking the Boss Lady to the Biltmore House and have another day to kill. Something that doesn't involve strippers/hookers, seriously you guys.

27 Posted by: Mary Poppins’ Practically Perfect Piercing at August 27, 2013 08:33 AM (zF6Iw) Scott Brown ruined his career. In early 2010 he had more support than any other politician in the country at one time. He had money coming in from everyone, all groups, Tea Party, I made calls for him to be my senator, Jim DeMint didn’t endorse him but sent an email saying he had a good shot of winning the seat and if people were inclined to give $ to him. Then he went to the senate and voted not as 41 against the dems, more often than not he voted as 61 with the dems. Someone called the local radio show last week and said that Scott screwed it up by “not dancing with the one that brought him.” That person was 100% correct. Scott was a huge disappointment to me. If he ran as republican instead of a moderate he would have kept his seat, now we have Lieawatha instead. I wouldn’t make calls or donate to him because I was so disappointed in him, he voted for Dodd-Frank bank bill & others that really pissed me off. Any republican taking advice from Brown is an idiot.

28 Inre the Opera: "It also turns out that unions are a major culprit in the torrent of red ink, as they so often are." This is the truth - Wife #1 was a symphony musician and I got to see how the unions fucked things up but good. The argument from her side was that only a "few" people in the world could play at a symphony level, so the compensation should be on a par with that...like pro sports. I said the analogy was ox-dumb because many thousands of people attend NFL games, not to mention thousands more buy NFL goods - but the audience for a symphony concert is much lower and the market has decided it would rather watch Jerry Rice over some tuba player.

29 27 OT Posted this on last three: Any Western Carolina/Asheville morons around. Taking the Boss Lady to the Biltmore House and have another day to kill. Something that doesn't involve strippers/hookers, seriously you guys.

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at August 27, 2013 08:48 AM (tlhtD)

I posted a response on the other thread.

30 Of course I post on dead thread, but copy/pasted from there: Attention JJ Sefton (or like minded morons) 130 JJ Sefton, Heard an ad on the radio this morning (wmal, dc's local conservative outlet) calling all "patriots" to rally in dc on 9/10 to support defunding of obamacare. As a lurker, I know that you are keen on rallying in dc to support moron values. They gave a website address, but unfortunately, I can't recall it now. If I can locate it, I'll try to pass it on to see if this is something the horde can support.

31 Looking at Welfare Benefits Packages as a whole, the states with the largest welfare packages are:

1. Hawaii- $49,175


navycopjoe's answer to staying home and playing guitar all day long.  It might be worth it, taking a bullet from his wife. 

32 Posted by: slackmac at August 27, 2013 08:53 AM (O66FG) Heard it too - the website is: http://www.exemptamerica.com/

33 Thanks Vic. That's what I was afraid of. May just ride and look at scenery. Christmas isn't gonna work cause we're going Friday.

34 Weird flunky, there are several small, low-key, amateur gem/gold mining sites in the Asheville area. You show up, pay a small fee, get either a bag of seeded dirt or try your luck in the streams. You'll learn a bunch of useless geology and maybe find a few keepers to bring home with you. Plus you'll meet a very eccentric group among the other miners.

35 Excellent @johntant. Thanks for link. It may be a great opportunity to make our voices heard.

36 34 Thanks Vic. That's what I was afraid of. May just ride and look at scenery. Christmas isn't gonna work cause we're going Friday.

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at August 27, 2013 08:54 AM (tlhtD)

Check around for NC State Parks that rent cabins.  Hopefully you can find one close enough for wifey to drive over to Builtmore and you can rent a boat at the park and go fishing.

37 I'm here in Palm Beach with the 5 percenter's. Thanks, Obama!1!1!!! We are having a spectacular recovery.

38 OT Posted this on last three: Any Western Carolina/Asheville morons
around. Taking the Boss Lady to the Biltmore House and have another day
to kill. Something that doesn't involve strippers/hookers, seriously you
guys.

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at August 27, 2013 08:48 AM (tlhtD)



Lots of good weed up there too.  Or so I heard.

39 35 Excellent Lincoln, she absolutely loves the idea of panning for gold. She actually buys pounds over the net and pans it in kitchen. I know, shut up! If it makes her happy it makes me happy.

40 One other thing to keep in mind about that area up there around Ashville.  It is home to one of the most liberal colleges in the country and there are a lot of lefty commies there.

41 I like JJ's idea of a massive rally. I live in the area, so would help any moron out to the extent an anonymous moron can safely do so.

42 Weird flunky, I pan at home, too! I guess it does seem strange to others to have bags of dirt shipped to one's house, but I've done it. I'll check my book and figure out where the best spot near Asheville was. I can picture the place, can't recall the name. I'll have it in ten minutes.

43 41 So Vic, you're saying my Ga. Gun Owners "Liberty or Death" T-shirt would be a hit.

44

Any Western Carolina/Asheville morons around. Taking the Boss Lady to the Biltmore House and have another day to kill. Something that doesn't involve strippers/hookers, seriously you guys.

 

Hm. We have an indoor pistol range, On Target. I think they may rent out pistols. Walking around downtown can be interesting.

45 Has any member of the Prophets of Choom explained why the Debt Clock was stopped for quite a while?

Hell, has anyone -- hint, hint Republicans -- even ASKED?

As my Flip Wilson talking doll used to say: "I smell a rat, and the wind is coming from your direction!"

46 43 Thank you Lincolntf.

47 OT

How to tap a beer keg with det cord. 

http://youtu.be/2OmFmsjIt2E

Slo-mo near the end is pretty dang cool!

48 I hope Scott Brown doesnÂ’t make a complete fool of himself with trying to run for president. He had a great future but screwed it up. I have Boston Herald app on my iPhone. Last weekend it alerted me that he was thinking of running. ItÂ’s not a good idea, heÂ’s not the problem solving reach across the aisle guy he thinks he his. MPPP-Thanks for link to story. Carol

49 Oh, the whole Blue Ridge Parkway is available to drive along, or you can get out and hike a bit if so inclined.

50 Ugh, the "In Another Country" piece hit home for me. This past week, I had the pleasure of attending the parent orientation/back to school night at two different public middle schools, as one of my twins is going to a magnet. The magnet school is, for various mostly-political reasons, housed in the middle school that serves the ghetto/trailer park area of our district. The two presentations really were like being in two different countries. Our zoned middle school's principal talked about UIL, PTA, and reminded us to please use the designated lane for drop-off and use the parent website to keep up on our students' grades. The ghetto middle school principal felt it necessary to introduce the campus police and make it clear that "holding" any drug related item was in fact an offense. Of course, since most of the parents who bothered to show up were magnet parents, the first question at the end was "Um...how separate is the magnet unit from the rest of the school?" (answer: very).

51

Treasury Secretary Jack Lew challenged Congress on Tuesday to raise the debt limit-telling CNBC that President Barack Obama will not negotiate over the issue.

"What we need in our economy is some certainty. We don't need another self-inflicted wound," Lew said in a "Squawk Box" interview. "Congress should come back and they should act."

He added, "We don't need another crisis at the last minute" because it causes uncertainty in the financial markets.

No of course not. We need Barry's sound fiscal policy that's like a drug addict looking for a fix

52 44 41 So Vic, you're saying my Ga. Gun Owners "Liberty or Death" T-shirt would be a hit.

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at August 27, 2013 09:02 AM (tlhtD)

Probably be OK out in the mountains, but around Ashville it would be about like a flaming turd on a front porch.

53

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Stock futures fell further on Tuesday after Western powers told the Syrian opposition to expect a strike against President Bashar al-Assad's forces within days, according to sources who attended a meeting between envoys and the Syrian National Coalition in Istanbul.

S&P 500 futures fell 16 points and were below fair value, a formula that evaluates pricing by taking into account interest rates, dividends and time to expiration of the contract. Dow Jones industrial average futures lost 113 points and Nasdaq 100 futures fell 35 points.

The stock market is joining the rest of the economy in the crapper

54 53. Excellent! :-)

55

Scott Brown ruined his career.

 

Preaching to the choir, Carol.  Look, despite my hard-assedness, I know that sometimes - very sometimes, you do have to work with the other side to get something done.  I could forgive Brown that.  But to start your career as an "independent voice" by cozying up to Barney Frank, of all people, was the death blow for me.  It meant either Brown was too stupid, too gullible or already too corupted to be a stand-up guy.  Nothing he has said or done afterwards has changed my opinion.  And Howie Carr shot his wad with me as well, demonstrating what a total gasbag lickspittle he is.

 

OK, 'rons, phone keeps ringing.  It's going to be one of those days.  See you all later.

56

Probably be OK out in the mountains, but around Ashville it would be about like a flaming turd on a front porch.

 

 

You do realize that there are plenty of us non-commies here too, right? As a matter of fact, Asheville is something of a center for builders of custom-made muzzleloading rifles.

57 Obama will "not negotiate"? Honest. The ship of state is piloted by kamikazes, but at least they are fanatical.

58 Mmmm, nummy num, doom prepared especially for me by my betters in DC. Is this a great country or what? We have full employment for magical thinking ignoramuses who could not pour p!ss out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel in charge of the future of the world. In a sane world, Obama would be scrambling to hold onto a job manning the french fry station at a third rate diner, but, no, WE are so d@mn dumb we give him the keys to the treasury, all the command codes, the nuclear football, Marine 1 and AF1 and then proudly watch him strut around the Vineyard in Mom jeans.

59 No, no, no. The trick is to *appear* to be working with the other side; you're not supposed to actually *help* the Democrats. But, Stupid Party and all that..

60 Weirdflunky, Randall Glen near Asheville was the spot I liked most for gem mining. The gold spot was different, might need to dig through receipts to remember the name, but they're all in the same river system so they're basically interchangeable.

61

The Seattle minimum wage hike makes perfect sense - if you understand the mindset. It's the plan to boot the on-the-books low wage workers out of the area by pricing them out of the labour market. That way, it'll all be mid to upper wage workers, or off-the-books illegals when the rich want their parties waitered or their lawns mowed. Boom, massive savings on social welfare, and the SWPL types get to boast that they live in a well run socialist Utopia, having kicked out anyone who would make that inconvenient.

 

New York City, and San Francisco have done something similar, although NYC has taken it to whole new lows/highs. (What, you think making these places inhospitable for poor and/or minority people isn't the aim? Implicit whiteness, people.) 

62 After reading this I can now go to work to pay for it all.

63 Any assistance in getting J.J. Sefton's attention would be appreciated. @johntant posted the website I referred to earlier. I suspect this is right up his alley, but can't check website at work.

64 Thanks Lincoln, panning will be just the ticket. If my shot out knees hold up.heh

65 Have fun.

66 Scottie Centerfold should look at his record of running as a fucking RINO versus having a conservative focus and ponder why things shook out the way they did. Seems like he listens to the likes of fat fuck Schmidt and ditz Wallace without realizing that those simpletons lose elections like Shrum does for the donks. Hey, they get invited to MSLSD a lot.

67 #28  CarolT,  I read something the other day that applies to Scott Brown.

People who win the big prize on looks are often credited with being smarter than they actually are,  especially by themselves.

68 57 You do realize that there are plenty of us non-commies here too, right? As a matter of fact, Asheville is something of a center for builders of custom-made muzzleloading rifles.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 27, 2013 09:11 AM (210xL)

I expected there would be a few.  But I had a niece who attended Warren-Wilson.  She found in a great school.  She is about as flaming a liberal as her mother. Warren-Wilson is a den of lefty trolls.

But personally, other than driving through it, I have never been to Ashville. Those muzzle loader folks in Ashville or out in the surrounding area?

69 "it takes courage to wipe your ass after taking a dump"

ObamaWipe is a new entitlement program being formed to combat the need to wipe one's ass.  Apparently it will come as an exclusive ObamaPhone app. Details are sketchy and lips are sealed on this Cass Sundstein project.

70 Ah, the Baby Boomers . . . .

Have you heard the story about how they're throwing themselves these lavish weddings because they couldn't afford a fancy wedding when they were younger?

71 #71  A certain segment of my generation have never grown up.  Get over it, folks! 

72 Oh and so long as I'm de-lurking, I really enjoy vic's news roundup and MPPPP's hollywood stories every morning. Thank you both, and remember, there are many, many lurkers who appreciate you too. I generally read on phone on the way to work, and posting is a hassle, so remember that you influence and arguments sweep much broader than may appear within comments. I simply felt compelled to reach out to JJ in light of this ready-made, pre-planned, pre-advertised rally. I suspect that we should support it as much as possible. My kids can't afford our lifestyle much longer.

73 Pay no attention to Monty. This whole "economy" thing will be fine someday. Pinky promise. And stop fighting over the best bridge underpass locations to set up house. There are plenty of large cardboard boxes for all of us and while you maybe can't drive over the bridges you will be able to live under them.

74

Posted by: slackmac at August 27, 2013 09:27 AM (O66FG)

 

Slackmac, it's my understanding that J.J.'s busy with a paying gig this week, so may not be readily available.  I'm afraid I don't have his contact mail, so all I can suggest is checking in every now and then today to see if you two match up.

 

And thanks for the compliment.  You do me more credit than I deserve.  I'm just an entertainer; the intellectual firepower resides in other commenters.

75 Nice doom Monty, I can't stay much b/c I have to establish the groundwork for the 10077 homestead, botanical garden, and workshop here in Scenic Columbia SC but make no mistake the Gotterdamerung we're squaredancing to was built on purpose....

and the craftsperson's initials are evidently NEA...

76 Of course I'm remiss in failing to acknowledge the doom-master, Monty. Nobody does it better. I hope that your concise and persuasive take on our financial situation is being heard far and wide. My thanks and appreciation.

77

But personally, other than driving through it, I have never been to Ashville. Those muzzle loader folks in Ashville or out in the surrounding area?

 

Nearby area, I think. Jim Chambers Gunlocks is out in Canton, Rice Barrel Co. was in Fairview (about 20 minutes from where I live) until a few years ago.

 

Asheville is really not that bad, at least off campus. I fellow I met when I was in Mississippi a few years back said that he had spent time in both Asheville and Oregon, and that while Asheville liked to think of itself as "weird" it was pretty tame compared to Seattle and places like that.

 

The real problem with Asheville is that it is a tourist town, so there are no jobs apart from service peon and lawyer/doctor.

78 I beg to disagree. Unemployed people make great works of art. Just look at some of the reality tv shows with which they have enriched our lives with...and another example, the Broadway productions they once acted so brilliantly in. Don't be so doomy. Get YOLO. Just look at the culture that surrounds you. Be happy. Be happy that you too, are a moron. Viva la moron!

79 Miss Marple, Scott Brown won the seat because he was the better candidate and people here are sick of KennedyÂ’s. He had support from the entire country, he was going to vote 41 against Obamacare. But they passed it before he was seated. He won out of hard work, but he should have stayed away from the MA dems. He should have been a republican, not a dem in R clothing.

80 Baby Boomers are not as bad about grandiose weddings as the current crowd. I spent almost nothing on my wedding.  My next door neighbor's eldest daughter got married a couple of years ago and had to have a big wedding with reception despite the fact that her mother had no job, no money, and no pot to piss in.


My understanding is this is common now.



TheKnot.com and WeddingChannel.com's annual Real Weddings Study revealed that the average amount spent on a wedding in 2012 was $28,427, with couples dropping more cash than they have in the past four years on all aspects of the event.

81 Well,  I see on Drudge than bothe Russia AND China have again issued dire warnings about going into Syria.

So,  how will Obama get out of this embarrassing mess?

Methinks we need an event to distract everyone.  You can bet he hs his minions combing local news stories to look for something,  anything,  to make into a cause celebre.

82 Drudge has that Syria says that Kerry is a liar -- Second look at Assad?
 
Oh and fuck Scotty Brown. He decided to play it as a Dem with basically ONE Republican vote under his belt, and lost ignominiously to a piece of shit like Warpath Lizzy.

83 MPPP, What ruined Brown totally for me was the debt ceiling in 2010. Harry Reid introduced a bill in the morning and Brown jumped up & voted “yay” and he was the only one. It was a sham bill by Reid, he didn’t vote for his own bill. Carol

84 #80  Yes,  I agree.

BUT because he THINKS he is smart he didn't realize WHY he won.  So he was lured to the dem side thinking he was going to make some super deal and get them to see things his way.

That is what I mean.  He isn't as smart as he thinks he is.  And if he is using Schmidt and Wallace,  I KNOW that he is as dumb as a box of rocks.

85 Dump up

86 Mary PoppinÂ’s PPP, sorry I left off a P in my last comment. Carol

87 Have you seen my dumps? They scare the shit out of me. I can't save cause I give myself combat pay to use on PDSD therapy.

88 MPPPP, as a lurker, i know that people express appreciation for your stories every morning. I'm convinced that there are many more who will never thank you personally, but appreciate it nonetheless. That said, as much as I enjoy the stories, I appreciate how you express your anger and frustration with the situation we find ourselves in. You are not alone, and I am glad you give voice to our frustration here.

89 Scott Brown has always paid attention to advice from seasoned political consultants and it has paid off handsomely!

90 Oh and Scotty thinks he can run for preezy -- Pat Robertson has a better shot. Shit, Zombie Ted Kennedy has a better shot. Wait, my dog's heartworms has a better shot.
 
Okay, I don't have a dog but still...

91 Marsalis Inc sold Lincoln Center a bill of goods in conjunction with asshole Stanley Crouch on a type of music which will never have more than a niche audience; particularly when you don't allow it to develop beyond a point which is already past. The best improv is played in the clubs and I don't see that ever changing.

92 35---" small, low-key, amateur gem/gold mining sites in the Asheville area. You show up, pay a small fee, get either a bag of seeded dirt or try your luck in the streams. You'll learn a bunch of useless geology and maybe find a few keepers to bring home with you." Posted by: Lincolntf at August 27, 2013 08:56 AM (ZshNr) -------------------- Great suggestion! Panning in streams is a barrel (or panful?) of fun for people of all ages. I thought it was stupid until we actually tried it. Fun, fun, fun!

93 It doesn't take courage for an individual to delay gratification.  It takes foresight and self-discipline.  I guess I can understand why a government entity gets the message wrong. 

94 "Next thing you know we'll be hearing "it takes courage to wipe your ass after taking a dump" PSA's."

What do you think all those "wash your hands" signs are?

95 How in the world can you draw 8k/mo disability? SSA sez my estimated disability would be about 1600/mo.

96

"...but it's really a giant generational wealth transfer from the relatively poor young to the relatively wealthy old."

 

 You do know that's a left wing liberal/progressive meme, right?

 

 I thought that working all your life, saving your money and investing your savings and preparing for your golden years was a good thing. Now, we're stealing from the younger generation because we...spent forty or fifty years -or more- working for a living??? WTF?

97 I wouldn't say it takes "courage" to save money--more like determination and discipline.  And having a reserve is generally a good idea, but lately I've been rethinking that one in terms of actual dollars.  As hysterical as it may sound, what good is a stash of dollars in even an honest banking institution when you may wake up one morning to find that the Treasury Department has essentially turned them into Rentemarks?

At this point I'm ready to say that money is only as good as the use one puts it to, and these days my idea of savings and investments is oriented toward tangible property.  You can't eat dollars, they do a crappy job of keeping rain off of your head and in a very real sense these days buy a lot less than they used to.  I don't see things getting much better in the immediate future.

I'm a fifty year old state employee in the fine Commonwealth of Pennsylvania; I make a stable salary and supposedly have a guaranteed pension if I make it to retirement.  That's ten to fifteen years from now, which doesn't seem all that long.  But five years ago who would have thought that half a decade would feel like a lifetime?  At this point I don't even bother thinking about Social Security when I retire--it's already pining for the fjords--and I'm not exactly confident about that pension.  I keep getting a mental image of a rusty lockbox with some cobwebs, a dead spider and a petrified Nekko wafer in it on top of an IOU.

What makes matters worse is that I live and work in Philadelphia for the Department of Public Welfare.  Every day I see where the money--such that it is--is going.  And then I go to work.  It would almost be funny if I weren't sitting in the front row with some mooch's hand in my popcorn bucket and his screaming SSI kids behind me.  The state capitol is pert near broke, yet Philly still siphons off the bulk of the state's funds.  Trust me when I say that the rest of the state wants it either annexed by New Jersey or floating out to sea, whichever comes first.  I don't see things getting much better when I'm getting seven to ten new cases nearly every day and subway billboards are recruiting Food Stamp applicants.  This will not be the place to be when people start swiping EBT cards and getting either funny money or nothing at all, and I have no intention of being here when that happens.

Money in the bank used to be a good thing, but these days real estate--somewhere away from the cities--is infinitely better.  And I'm not talking about renting, I'm talking about ownership with a mortgage that can be paid off before we start seeing three dollar bills with Barky The First's picture replacing the current greenback (And has anyone else noticed that the bills make the presidents look like bad knock-off Hanna Barbera cartoons?  What exactly was the point of that in light of the fact that our own government can't quite manage to counterfiet C-note?).  That and a reliable vehicle (again, paid off) look to me to be a much better investment than a pile of electronic paper sitting in a virtual vault, and right about now would be the time to move in that direction.

Risky?  Sure--what isn't anymore?  Maybe the money may one day be worth something again, and maybe the Detroit Lions and the Philadelphia Eagles might play each other in the Superbowl.  I'll pass on those bets.  Call me nuts--you wouldn't be alone--but a country house that can be lived in and kept in the family is worth far more that conventional savings these days.  Just my two bucks (Yeah I know it used to be two cents; people also used to wear bellbottoms)....

98 96 How in the world can you draw 8k/mo disability? SSA sez my estimated disability would be about 1600/mo.

Posted by: BignJames at August 27, 2013 09:58 AM (HtUkt)

Read a news story a couple of years ago about some Detroit welfare queen who was pulling in $75K a year in welfare and disability payments for her children who were diagnosed with ADD. 

All it takes is a quack doctor and someone who knows how to beat the system. Having illegitimate children has now become an occupation. 

And it doesn't cost much to "raise" them when you simply turn them out on the street.

99 It takes courage to save money where this confiscatory govt can find it.

100 I know that I am late to the revival but I am VERY happy to see that DOOM is back at the old stand.
Well, 'happy' that it's back --- here. Not so much that DOOM is still trucking right along and will be paying us all a visit at some near future point. Not that we don't deserve it, but interesting times be on the horizon.