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June 11, 2013

Spying scandals metastasize to Canada
— Purple Avenger

Oh my, Canada has been spying on its citizens too.

Defence Minister Peter MacKay approved a secret electronic eavesdropping program that scours global telephone records and Internet data trails Â– including those of Canadians Â– for patterns of suspicious activity.
Mr. MacKay signed a ministerial directive formally renewing the governmentÂ’s Â“metadataÂ” surveillance program on Nov. 21, 2011, according to records obtained by The Globe and Mail. The program had been placed on a lengthy hiatus, according to the documents, after a federal watchdog agency raised concerns that it could lead to warrantless surveillance of Canadians...

European spying on public (way more than anyone expected was going on at least) to be revealed in 5...4...3...2...

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 02:20 AM | Comments (38)
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1 It's everywhere!

Posted by: zeera at June 11, 2013 02:23 AM (3dXwx)

2 Morning 'rons & 'ettes. Eastbound to East Texas, then north to Kitchner, Ontario for our annual trip to Canada.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2013 02:27 AM (bpzkI)

3 3 card monte trick. Find the Muslim.

Posted by: tony redenzo at June 11, 2013 02:31 AM (rGzAT)

4 2 Morning 'rons & 'ettes. Eastbound to East Texas, then north to Kitchner, Ontario for our annual trip to Canada.

Posted by: rickb223

They'll be spying on you...yes, the Canadians too.

Posted by: Gmac at June 11, 2013 02:33 AM (IanLz)

5 It never ceases to amaze me how countries all get the same brilliant idea (not) at virtually the same time, then all go over the cliff together. see also; no-doc loans, no down payment loans, housing crisis, bank failures

Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request [/i] at June 11, 2013 02:35 AM (U2UQk)

6 They'll be spying on you...yes, the Canadians too. They have a long way to go to be as good as a third grader. Last year I took a Cold Steel khukhri & a laminated page on how to carve long pig, & when they searched the van & our luggage, they never found it.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2013 02:40 AM (bpzkI)

7 Morning all. Pat Cadell is fired up about this. Over at Breitbart (where else?).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2013 02:40 AM (+98Gb)

8 1 It's everywhere!

Posted by: zeera at June 11, 2013 06:23 AM (3dXwx)

Frog blast the vent core!

Posted by: Bob at June 11, 2013 02:41 AM (TjB5G)

9 It never ceases to amaze me how countries all get the same brilliant idea (not) at virtually the same time, then all go over the cliff together. see also; no-doc loans, no down payment loans, housing crisis, bank failures ...world wars...

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2013 02:41 AM (bpzkI)

10 We are truly trapped in the Net.

Sandra Bullock hardest hit?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 11, 2013 02:43 AM (AKcpz)

11 9 ...world wars... Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2013 06:41 AM (bpzkI) "Will Mr. Gavrilo Princip please pick up the courtesy phone..."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 11, 2013 02:43 AM (+98Gb)

12 Sandra Bullock hardest hit? I would.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2013 02:45 AM (bpzkI)

13 see also; no-doc loans, no down payment loans, housing crisis, bank failures Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request at June 11, 2013 06:35 AM (U2UQk) Canada's hasn't really had the banking and housing crises, the latter because it's much harder to qualify for a mortgage. They actually make you show that you have the ability to pay. Harper's got some problems of his own right now and the media is hounding him over ethical issues courtesy of some members of his caucus, so I'm sure they'll have a field day with this.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 11, 2013 02:45 AM (u8ZVh)

14 The Black Hand courtesy phone?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 11, 2013 02:45 AM (AKcpz)

15 Conferences guys, it's those lavish conferences. While most of the drones are just partying on our dime, a few dedicated statists actually get together and plot shit (collaborate is modern "PC" term). You'll have to rouse Cthulhu from the ONT, but I believe it involves entrails and wierd sexual rites with octopus tentacles.

Posted by: Jean at June 11, 2013 02:47 AM (CMlD4)

16 ...world wars...
Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2013 06:41 AM (bpzkI)

What was the name of that department that tried to silence Mark Steyn a few years ago? Human Rights Commission, or something equally misleading.

Posted by: Retread at June 11, 2013 02:48 AM (Oz+LZ)

17 2 Morning 'rons & 'ettes. Eastbound to East Texas, then north to Kitchner, Ontario for our annual trip to Canada. Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2013 06:27 AM (bpzkI) We'll leave the light on for you.

Posted by: PRISM at June 11, 2013 02:48 AM (Wl/Ht)

18 Mmm, suddenly I want a plate of Poutine and Scrapple

Posted by: Jean at June 11, 2013 02:52 AM (CMlD4)

Not sure if you're driving, but living 2 hours from the Canadian border and having gone in many times I can tell you that 8 times out of 10 the Canadian custom guys are absoloute dicks. Hopefully it will be above 60 for your visit. And bring your bug spray! a 50 gal. drum should suffice.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 11, 2013 02:53 AM (bXdYS)

20 What was the name of that department that tried to silence Mark Steyn a few years ago? Human Rights Commission, or something equally misleading. Posted by: Retread at June 11, 2013 06:48 AM (Oz+LZ) Human Rights Commission or Tribunal, depending on the province. The feds have one too.

Posted by: Vendette (formerly I lurk, therefore I am) at June 11, 2013 02:53 AM (u8ZVh)

21 19 Not sure if you're driving, but living 2 hours from the Canadian border and having gone in many times I can tell you that 8 times out of 10 the Canadian custom guys are absoloute dicks. Hopefully it will be above 60 for your visit. And bring your bug spray! a 50 gal. drum should suffice. Posted by: Minnfidel at June 11, 2013 06:53 AM (bXdYS) On my recent trip, the guy was pleasant, but asked if I owned any guns. Not, did I have any, did I own any. I lied right to his face, maintaining a mental picture of a large footlocker sinking in a lake. Lucky the kiddos were asleep, they would given me up.

Posted by: Jean at June 11, 2013 02:59 AM (CMlD4)

22 Not sure if you're driving, but living 2 hours from the Canadian border and having gone in many times I can tell you that 8 times out of 10 the Canadian custom guys are absoloute dicks. Hopefully it will be above 60 for your visit. And bring your bug spray! a 50 gal. drum should suffice. Driving. Two days from N. Texas. Stopping overnight in Indy to have dinner with friends. Should be 74 for highs. Beats 107 heat index. Bugs weren't bad last year.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2013 03:01 AM (bpzkI)

23 On my recent trip, the guy was pleasant, but asked if I owned any guns. Not, did I have any, did I own any. I lied right to his face, With my smartassed Texas attitude, I'd have said, "Duh! You need some?"

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2013 03:03 AM (bpzkI)

24 Driving. Two days from N. Texas. Stopping overnight in Indy to have dinner with friends. Should be 74 for highs. Beats 107 heat index. Bugs weren't bad last year.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2013 07:01 AM ...........We have barely been above 70 all spring and it's been non-stop rain so the skeeters might be ugly this time.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 11, 2013 03:06 AM (bXdYS)

25 Posted by: Jean at June 11, 2013 06:59 AM ...................Yea, they love questions like that. I think it's to try and trip you up so they have a reason to pull all the shit out of your truck. It's gotten to the point that with the hassle, cost of gas etc. we hardly go anymore.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 11, 2013 03:07 AM (bXdYS)

26 We have barely been above 70 all spring and it's been non-stop rain so the skeeters might be ugly this time. Thanks for the heads up. I'll let the guys I'm traveling with know.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2013 03:09 AM (bpzkI)

27 The other day Mrs. Minnfidel was cold as it's been a shitty cold spring here. I said I'll be dammned if I am going to turn the furnace back on in JUNE! I said, put on a sweater. So of course she shot me a dirty look and then turned the fireplace on. As usual I lose.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 11, 2013 03:12 AM (bXdYS)

28 Once I was thru, I realized I was wearing a hunting related cap, had a scope maker's coffee mug, and a gun manufacturer's polo shirt on.

Posted by: Jean at June 11, 2013 03:14 AM (CMlD4)

29 Once I was thru, I realized I was wearing a hunting related cap, had a scope maker's coffee mug, and a gun manufacturer's polo shirt on.

Posted by: Jean at June 11, 2013 07:14 AM...........LOL. Surprised they didn't have you pull over and go through your whole car. They did that on one of our trips an found an empty clip that got behind the seat of my truck. They went absolutely apeshit. Finally I got pissed and said boys. it's a square piece of metal with a spring in it. The only harm it could do is if someone threw it at you. (Which I would have loved to do). The crescent wrench next to it is more deadly. It only took 11/2 hours and they finally said enjoy your stay. I had all I could do to not say FU. My kids or anyone knows when crossing in, don't say a word unless they ask you a direct question, and if so keep it short as possible. Well off to the salt mines.

Posted by: Minnfidel at June 11, 2013 03:22 AM (bXdYS)

30 When I went across from Alberta to meet friends in Montana and bring them back up for a quick visit (he had to leave his vehicle as he had a firearm with him), customs gave me the third degree upon return. I very calmly said "why are you questioning me? I'm a Canadian citizen and you must grant me entry." Shut the dude up right quick. The next day after I had returned the friends to the US, the agent explained it was a precaution against people in cross-border relationships importing their sweethearts.

Posted by: Gingy at June 11, 2013 04:15 AM (aH+zP)

31 Aaaand there go my Canada evacuation plans. *sigh* Fuck it, I'm heading for the Caymans.

Posted by: Michael at June 11, 2013 05:12 AM (Y/HG5)

32 We had a nice run. Summon the sweet meteors of death.

Posted by: Shoot Me at June 11, 2013 05:24 AM (qiXMt)

33 Canada's NSA. They know how many donuts you ate. And they'll use it against you.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at June 11, 2013 05:56 AM (71LDo)

34 I'm pretty sure the only safe place to hole up and hide from the NSA is Cambridge, Mass. I'd look for Snowden at the Hahvard Coop.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at June 11, 2013 05:57 AM (71LDo)

35 The programme was started by the Liberals; it looks like it was targetted and aimed at overseas traffic (like Bush's version); and it's now on HIATUS due to privacy concerns. That sure sounds like Obama's programme./sarc

Posted by: andycanuck at June 11, 2013 06:31 AM (9+vDU)

36 Trust Stephen Harper, Peter MacKay is still high as they know where the line is and they have a opposition party that is not just a lesser of them. The NDP and Liberal are really on the opposite side of center and not just farther left and the Conservatives.

Vic Toews on the other had does make one worry. The Minister of Public Safety had made some questionable comments on Bill C-30 (A child protection act) which was to allow the warrant wireless taps of Phones and IP's and only child molesters are the ones objecting to is. Why did they need a warrant if all this time they already had the metadata of those involved in criminal activity. In the end C-30 died and they modified current laws over a new law and authorization.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at June 11, 2013 08:44 AM (CdeLs)

37 Renewing the metadata program might have been the change in current law and over an whole new law that would allow warrant less wire taps and force IP's to give over all the data.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at June 11, 2013 08:46 AM (CdeLs)

38 trying again

Posted by: Brewer at June 13, 2013 09:11 AM (eV1I0)

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