June 20, 2013
— Ace A commenter was tired of the amnesty posts and suggested one about The Monster Cap'n Crunch.
This man (I use the term in a biological sense only) claims to be a captain -- or should I say, "Cap'n." yet:

Three stripes. Three stripes, not four.
The Navy has further exposed him:
" 'You are correct that Cap'n Crunch appears to be wearing the rank of a U.S. Navy commander,' Lt. Cmdr. Sarah Flaherty, a U.S. Navy spokeswoman, tells Foreign Policy. 'Oddly, our personnel records do not show a "Cap'n Crunch" who currently serves or has served in the Navy.' "
Here is how The Liar attempts to defend himself, on Twitter:
"So much fuss about my name. O, be some other name. What's in a name? That which we call Cap'n Crunch, by any other name would taste as sweet"
I passed on this story because I wasn't sure of the details, and I did not want to malign a service-member unduly.
I also passed on it because I thought that "Captain" is both a rank and a position. By which I mean, if you're the skipper of a boat, you're addressed as "captain" by your crew even if your actual rank is commander (or lower-- even a seaman can be a captain, I think, if pushed into that position by the deaths of ranking officers).
So it would not matter (if I'm right about this) that he's only a Commander; if he skippers his own boat, then he's also a Captain, at least on that boat.
Because "Captain" is an important position in addition to being a rank, the Navy has made up a different title, "Commodore," for those persons on board a ship who may have the rank of Captain but who are not actually captains of the ship they're on. It's important to know who the actual captain is, so if there's another captain aboard (or, I think, a technically higher-ranking officer like an admiral who is not, despite his higher rank, actually the captain of the ship), he gets called Commodore and not captain.
That's what I thought, anyway. So perhaps we're all rushing to judgment on this Cap'n Crunch affair. I don't know why he's not listed in the Navy's records but it's possible "Crunch" is a nickname, maybe given to him to emphasize his diligent work-habits and razor-cut abs, or perhaps given derogatorily by his men due to his erratic, obsessive behavior when a couple of messboys stole some Crunchberries from the ship's stocks.
Pushback: I see various definitions of "Commodore" in the comments (which might actually all be the same definition). I think I'm wrong (even though I got my definition from two unimpeachable sources -- Star Trek and Starship Troopers).
Traditionally, "commodore" is the title for any officer assigned to command more than one ship at a time, even temporarily, much as "captain" is the traditional title for the commanding officer of a single ship even if the officer's official title in the service is a lower rank. As an official rank, a commodore typically commands a flotilla or squadron of ships as part of a larger task force or naval fleet commanded by an admiral.It is often regarded as a one-star rank with a NATO code of OF-6 (which is known in the U.S. as "rear admiral (lower half)"), but whether it is regarded as a flag rank varies between countries.[1]
I can't find any citation to back up my belief that "commodore" serves as a rank of convenience to avoid a Two Captains on One Ship problem. Maybe Heinlein made that up, or maybe I'm just misremembering.
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 20, 2013 09:11 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: Cap'n Barry at June 20, 2013 09:12 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 20, 2013 09:12 AM (a3iAA)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at June 20, 2013 09:14 AM (HEa5q)
I served on swift boats with Cap'n Crunch during the Vietnam War, and he was witness to my second wounding.
Posted by: John Kerry, Secretary of State and Stuff at June 20, 2013 09:14 AM (1lQzY)
Posted by: MrScribbler at June 20, 2013 09:14 AM (lNAFm)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 20, 2013 09:14 AM (ZPrif)
Relax. The senior ranking officer on board ship is called "Captain," regardless of rank.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 20, 2013 09:14 AM (5RUlF)
Posted by: JoeShmoe99 at June 20, 2013 09:15 AM (xamKk)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 20, 2013 09:15 AM (8ZskC)
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 20, 2013 09:15 AM (+98Gb)
Posted by: maddogg at June 20, 2013 09:15 AM (OlN4e)
Lionel Richie never served, either.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 20, 2013 09:15 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 20, 2013 09:15 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 20, 2013 09:16 AM (+98Gb)
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Posted by: kathysaysso at June 20, 2013 09:16 AM (6H6o8)
You are going to stand sweating at those battle stations until someone confesses! It's an insult to the honor of this ship! The symbol of our cargo record has been destroyed and I'm going to find out who did it if it takes all night!
Posted by: Cap'n Crunch at June 20, 2013 09:17 AM (1Rgee)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 20, 2013 09:17 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2013 09:17 AM (KXm42)
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2013 01:16 PM (WW8xK)
What's funny is that Billy Bob is the one that brought it up and he was one that last had the HotAir button crack directed at him.
Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2013 09:18 AM (LI48c)
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Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 20, 2013 09:18 AM (kqqGm)
“I’m excited to be bringing my independent brand of media criticism to Fox News. I want to thank CNN for giving me such a prime opportunity over the years and was tempted to continue, but the chance to create a revamped program and establish a strong online presence was too good to pass up. I hope to add a new dimension to Fox’s coverage and have some fun while diving into the passionate debates about the press and politics.”
Posted by: Walter Cronkite at June 20, 2013 09:18 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: John "Captain" Kerry at June 20, 2013 09:19 AM (T0NGe)
But as far as the old' Cruncher---the Captain is a Captain. His two epaulets correspond to a Post-Captain in both the RN and USN for the type of cocked-hat uniform he is wearing, and thus he is good.
Posted by: Mr. Happy-Ounce of Prevention, Pound of Cure at June 20, 2013 09:19 AM (Hfjmb)
Posted by: Trelawney Hope at June 20, 2013 09:19 AM (HDxJh)
"A Commander in charge of a boat would not be called 'Captain.'"
I don't think that's right. Aren't Commanders (O-5) typically in command submarines in the Navy? Yet on board their boats, they're called "Captain."
Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 20, 2013 09:19 AM (5RUlF)
Posted by: joeindc44 didn't write this either at June 20, 2013 09:19 AM (QxSug)
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Posted by: waldo at June 20, 2013 09:20 AM (RZwdH)
Also, let's all refuse to comply with the IRS.
Someone else go first so we can join.
Posted by: Some SCOAMFy purity test at June 20, 2013 09:20 AM (9sjmH)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 20, 2013 09:21 AM (l3vZN)
From Wikipedia: "Post-Captain"
After 1795, when they were first introduced on Royal Navy uniforms, the number and position of epaulettes distinguished between commanders and post-captains of various seniorities. A commander wore a single epaulette on the left shoulder. A post-captain with less than three years seniority wore a single epaulette on the right shoulder, and a post-captain with three or more years seniority wore an epaulette on each shoulder. (National Maritime Museum Uniform Collection, see below.) In the O'Brian series, Aubrey "wets the swab" -- that is, he celebrates his promotion to commander and the acquisition of his "swab" or epaulette with the consumption of copious amounts of alcohol.
Note that the term was descriptive only: no-one was ever styled "Post-Captain John Smith".
Posted by: Mr. Happy-Ounce of Prevention, Pound of Cure at June 20, 2013 09:21 AM (Hfjmb)
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Posted by: Guido "who can see new citizens streaming across the border from his porch" at June 20, 2013 09:21 AM (8I9hB)
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Posted by: George Orwell what knows Lois Lerner lies at June 20, 2013 09:23 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 20, 2013 09:23 AM (r+7wo)
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Posted by: joeindc44 didn't write this either at June 20, 2013 09:24 AM (QxSug)
Posted by: DaveA at June 20, 2013 09:24 AM (DL2i+)
First Chris Wallace, then Juan Williams, now Howie Kurtz.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 20, 2013 09:24 AM (kqqGm)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/postino-I-love-it-5.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 20, 2013 09:24 AM (FRe+O)
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Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 20, 2013 09:25 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at June 20, 2013 09:25 AM (V3kRK)
Come on serfs, don't you know we are all world citizens now, and in the World Navy, 3 stripes is proper.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 20, 2013 09:25 AM (1wTQt)
Posted by: EC at June 20, 2013 09:25 AM (GQ8sn)
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Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:26 AM (xw77v)
“The dirty little secret about extradition law is it’s really about 90 percent politics and only 10 percent law,” Vladeck said.
The 1997 treaty also states that a suspect will not be surrendered to face criminal prosecution for an offense of an activist or “political character,” a term that lacks a clear legal interpretation in Hong Kong.
Posted by: Henry Kissinger at June 20, 2013 09:27 AM (e8kgV)
So if I just put up one more post on amnesty instead of this one we'd have this problem licked, huh?
It is sad to see men who consider themselves manful behave like panicking, shrieking women, chickens running around with their heads cut off.
What is it, in all seriousness, that you think would be gained by having NOT done this post at all?
You dress up your criticisms in the guise as being About the Republic but they're really about you.
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2013 09:27 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Sergio Garcia at June 20, 2013 09:27 AM (cKyRT)
Posted by: waldo at June 20, 2013 09:27 AM (RZwdH)
Posted by: Guido "who can see new citizens streaming across the border from his porch" at June 20, 2013 09:27 AM (8I9hB)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:27 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 20, 2013 09:28 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:28 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 20, 2013 09:29 AM (FRe+O)
Posted by: waldo
Although it was one of my favorite shows, I would have seriously demoted the Skipper. He takes people on board with full wardrobes, jewelry, radios, flashlights, phonographs, records, and somehow the ability to make coconut pies. Yet with all of this he can't navigate a storm.
Posted by: Toucan Koo-Koo for Cocoa Puffs at June 20, 2013 09:29 AM (G+Wff)
Posted by: USNA1985 at June 20, 2013 09:29 AM (PUuQq)
so he is just following protocol or is a frocked Cap'n reverted back to CDR
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 20, 2013 09:29 AM (LRFds)
several posters who sound like they know what they're talking about offer a different explanation that I did. I'm getting my explanation, actually, from Star Trek and particularly from Starship Troopers, which I think had a paragraph-long explanation on what "commodore" meant.
I don't know if they're wrong or if you guys are right but also missing another usage of Commodore (as a rank of convenience to avoid the Two Captains on One Ship problem).
Posted by: ace at June 20, 2013 09:29 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:29 AM (xw77v)
Sorry.... but the CAPTAIN on most Destroyers, is a COMMANDER.
Heck... the Captain of smaller vessels can be a Lt. Commander, or even a Lt....
Captain is a Position, not just a Rank.
Thus, no stolen valor.... just you Landlubbers don't know the ways of the Sea...
Posted by: Romeo13, Retired Inebriated Nautical Proffesional at June 20, 2013 09:30 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: SarahW at June 20, 2013 09:30 AM (LYwCh)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:30 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: LT at June 20, 2013 09:30 AM (mX6UJ)
Posted by: EC at June 20, 2013 09:30 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 20, 2013 09:31 AM (FRe+O)
The ducks wouldn't touch it, even when it got all soggy after about 1/2 an hour in the water.
My niece STILL tells that story and wants to know what material Captain Crunch actually is made of, because when even ducks won't eat it, well, what can you say?
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 20, 2013 09:31 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 20, 2013 09:31 AM (LRFds)
It depends on whose boat you're on.
Posted by: Phinn at June 20, 2013 09:31 AM (oFH2D)
Posted by: waldo at June 20, 2013 09:31 AM (RZwdH)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 20, 2013 09:31 AM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Jones in CO at June 20, 2013 09:32 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: phoenixgirl@phxazgrl at June 20, 2013 09:32 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:32 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 20, 2013 09:32 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 09:32 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Toucan Koo-Koo for Cocoa Puffs at June 20, 2013 01:29 PM (G+Wff)
Yeah... but it was the Proffesor who had it goin on.... he had two hotties and he was the only reasonable bachelor...
Why do you think he couldn't figure out a way off the island??? He didn't want to.... because HIS Answer to... Mary Ann or Ginger? was YES!
Posted by: Romeo13, Retired Inebriated Nautical Proffesional at June 20, 2013 09:32 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: waldo at June 20, 2013 09:32 AM (RZwdH)
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 20, 2013 01:31 PM (GoIUi) ------------------
Asbestos pulled out of houses by the hazmat teams. It was "re-purposed".
Posted by: Guido at June 20, 2013 09:33 AM (8I9hB)
How his mother never noticed this, I do not know. I mocked him until he quit doing it.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 20, 2013 09:33 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:33 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 20, 2013 09:34 AM (8/DeP)
Posted by: EC at June 20, 2013 09:34 AM (GQ8sn)
and that whole 'aye, aye' schitck is The Ghey
Posted by: Bertie Ahern at June 20, 2013 09:34 AM (omBWL)
Commodore by parlance is ordinarily denoting Command and Control of a flotilla.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_%28rank%29
Cap'N Crunch is indirectly considered in Command of Booberry, Count Chocula, Lucky Charms.....
his Marine Contingent is ran by General Mills
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 20, 2013 09:34 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: EC at June 20, 2013 01:30 PM (GQ8sn)
Only for enlisted.... for Zeros it denotes Rank.
Posted by: Romeo13, Retired Inebriated Nautical Proffesional at June 20, 2013 09:34 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:34 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 20, 2013 09:35 AM (UhTsC)
Posted by: EC at June 20, 2013 09:35 AM (GQ8sn)
Cap'N Crunch is indirectly considered in Command of Booberry, Count Chocula, Lucky Charms.....
Speaking of Lucky Charms, I want my money back. I ate Lucky Charms frequently as a child, and my luck STILL sucks.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 20, 2013 09:35 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: mare at June 20, 2013 09:35 AM (A98Xu)
Posted by: Johnnyreb at June 20, 2013 09:36 AM (6McTJ)
I attribute this to having to watch it in late afternoon after babysitting grandkids and taking them to the pool. That's my story, anyway.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 20, 2013 09:36 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Beto at June 20, 2013 09:36 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 20, 2013 09:36 AM (8/DeP)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 20, 2013 09:37 AM (FRe+O)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 09:37 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Mætenloch at June 20, 2013 09:37 AM (XkotV)
we ain't in the the UK, and the gentry ain't what it used to be
Posted by: Bertie Ahern at June 20, 2013 09:37 AM (omBWL)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:37 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 20, 2013 09:37 AM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 20, 2013 01:35 PM (UhTsC)
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I have an idea
Posted by: Rick Moranis at June 20, 2013 09:37 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 20, 2013 09:38 AM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Trelawney Hope at June 20, 2013 09:38 AM (PjUqy)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 20, 2013 09:38 AM (FRe+O)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2013 09:38 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Blacksheep at June 20, 2013 01:36 PM (8/DeP)
Naw... I think he kept Gilligan and the Skipper around to do scut work...
Someone had to gather the Coconuts... so let the Omegas do it...
Posted by: Romeo13, Retired Inebriated Nautical Proffesional at June 20, 2013 09:38 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 01:32 PM (VtjlW) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly! Although I have no idea what you said, would you please repeat it for Ms. Guido? I think she would get something out of it....except why in the end do I think I'll get my ass kicked?
Posted by: Guido at June 20, 2013 09:38 AM (8I9hB)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 09:38 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: andycanuck at June 20, 2013 09:39 AM (9+vDU)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:39 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: fluffy, former grunt at June 20, 2013 09:39 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Cheri at June 20, 2013 09:39 AM (G+Wff)
Posted by: Lionel Ritchie at June 20, 2013 09:39 AM (A0sHn)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:40 AM (xw77v)
in the Nay-vee, the circular stripes going around both lower sleeves show rank for officers. The Coastees are the same, methinks
Posted by: Bertie Ahern at June 20, 2013 09:40 AM (omBWL)
Posted by: lincolntf at June 20, 2013 09:40 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 20, 2013 09:40 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: fluffy, former grunt
Posted by: Cheri former Coast Guard at June 20, 2013 09:40 AM (G+Wff)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:40 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 09:40 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: General Mills at June 20, 2013 09:40 AM (sefnN)
Posted by: EC at June 20, 2013 09:40 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 20, 2013 09:41 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: SarahW at June 20, 2013 09:41 AM (LYwCh)
http://tinyurl.com/kl2sj5y
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 20, 2013 09:41 AM (FRe+O)
Posted by: Trelawney Hope at June 20, 2013 09:41 AM (PjUqy)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:42 AM (xw77v)
Taint sad.
Posted by: fluffy, former grunt at June 20, 2013 01:39 PM (z9HTb)
Well... the Marines ARE part of the Navy...
/ducks
Posted by: Romeo13, Retired Inebriated Nautical Proffesional at June 20, 2013 09:42 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 20, 2013 01:36 PM (GoIUi)
Isn't Miss Marple supposed to be a great detective? Who lives in a pineapple UNDER THE SEA? Bubbles and all?
Posted by: red sweater at June 20, 2013 09:42 AM (oATMN)
Posted by: jeff at June 20, 2013 09:42 AM (aQ3OJ)
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Appointments at 10, 2 and 4.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 20, 2013 09:42 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 09:42 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:42 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 20, 2013 09:42 AM (BXLPR)
Posted by: David Duke at June 20, 2013 09:43 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2013 09:43 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Trelawney Hope at June 20, 2013 09:43 AM (PjUqy)
Posted by: Sara Lee at June 20, 2013 09:43 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at June 20, 2013 09:43 AM (ZWvOb)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 20, 2013 09:43 AM (gTXnI)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 20, 2013 09:43 AM (/PCJa)
....because of the Commodore thing, and other stuff
Posted by: Bertie Ahern at June 20, 2013 09:43 AM (omBWL)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 20, 2013 01:41 PM (32Ze2)
No, but it was originally sold as a 'Patent Medicine'...
Posted by: Romeo13, Retired Inebriated Nautical Proffesional at June 20, 2013 09:43 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD
ATC - It's Cee-U-Next-Tuesday!
Posted by: Cheri former Coast Guard at June 20, 2013 09:43 AM (G+Wff)
Posted by: Jane Austen at June 20, 2013 09:43 AM (87Uf9)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 20, 2013 09:43 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: lincolntf at June 20, 2013 09:44 AM (ZshNr)
He's an Air Pirate....Cap'n Crunch helped Claire Cehnnault set up the Flying Tigers.....
his group was called the Yodeling Grasshoppers...
really classified stuff he was stabilizing our base in Shangri-La
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 20, 2013 09:44 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:44 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: Bertie Ahern at June 20, 2013 09:44 AM (omBWL)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2013 09:45 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Beto at June 20, 2013 09:45 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 20, 2013 09:45 AM (g1DWB)
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It's like Ace has his finger on the pulse of the Horde's collective heads, which are all ready to explode. Then he deftly hits the pressure release valve and averts disaster.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 20, 2013 09:46 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: General Mills at June 20, 2013 09:46 AM (sefnN)
Posted by: Trelawney Hope at June 20, 2013 09:46 AM (PjUqy)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:46 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at June 20, 2013 09:46 AM (Cegrh)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2013 01:45 PM (KXm42)
Russian???? Commie??? /shudder
Posted by: Romeo13, Retired Inebriated Nautical Proffesional at June 20, 2013 09:46 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:47 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: Armando at June 20, 2013 09:47 AM (5iuEW)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 20, 2013 09:47 AM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Tami at June 20, 2013 01:45 PM (X6akg)
Really was a Captain.... a Pirate Captain...
Posted by: Romeo13, Retired Inebriated Nautical Proffesional at June 20, 2013 09:47 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2013 09:47 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Sara Lee at June 20, 2013 09:47 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Penfold at June 20, 2013 09:47 AM (Fbt5B)
211 188 Next you're gonna tell me that Dr. Pepper is not an actual Doctor.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 20, 2013 01:41 PM (32Ze2) ---------------
No but he played one on TV.
Posted by: Guido at June 20, 2013 09:48 AM (8I9hB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 20, 2013 09:48 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Beto at June 20, 2013 09:48 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at June 20, 2013 09:48 AM (HQX6o)
Posted by: Trelawney Hope at June 20, 2013 01:46 PM (PjUqy)
Navy is on the Four Year Plan... but Gold after 12...
Posted by: Romeo13, Retired Inebriated Nautical Proffesional at June 20, 2013 09:48 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at June 20, 2013 09:48 AM (fk1A8)
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Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 20, 2013 09:49 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: little debbie does dallas at June 20, 2013 09:49 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Trelawney Hope at June 20, 2013 09:50 AM (PjUqy)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:50 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 20, 2013 09:50 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2013 09:50 AM (87Uf9)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 09:51 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 20, 2013 09:51 AM (BXLPR)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:51 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: Guido at June 20, 2013 09:51 AM (8I9hB)
Posted by: Trelawney Hope at June 20, 2013 09:51 AM (PjUqy)
or a JAG geek; or a dentist, maybe, with a Steady Hand
Posted by: Bertie Ahern at June 20, 2013 09:52 AM (omBWL)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 20, 2013 09:52 AM (TQbuA)
Front!
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 09:52 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: EC at June 20, 2013 09:53 AM (GQ8sn)
http://tinyurl.com/russell-brand-morning-joe
Posted by: Beto at June 20, 2013 01:36 PM (MhA4j)
Holy shit; I'm no big Russell Brand fan but he almost had Meeka squirting on that one. Scarborough might be so pissed another intern might die.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 20, 2013 09:53 AM (0Y/LU)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 20, 2013 09:53 AM (/gHaE)
Posted by: steevy at June 20, 2013 09:53 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 01:51 PM (VtjlW)
Seriously....I have a fantastic recipe for lemon bars. Unfortunately they are about half butter.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2013 09:53 AM (WW8xK)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 20, 2013 09:54 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 09:54 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 20, 2013 09:54 AM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at June 20, 2013 09:54 AM (84wuL)
Posted by: SurferDoc at June 20, 2013 09:54 AM (F+av1)
Posted by: RobM1981 at June 20, 2013 09:55 AM (XFKC+)
Posted by: EC at June 20, 2013 09:55 AM (GQ8sn)
>> /ducks
Why are you ducking? Are you afraid of the other Village People, too?
Posted by: Sara Lee at June 20, 2013 01:47 PM (z9HTb)
It's touchy - they are in the very strictest sense but don't like being reminded of that.
Posted by: Trelawney Hope at June 20, 2013 01:50 PM (PjUqy)
Because my first ship was the USS Iwo Jima (LPH-2)? Where I LIVED with Shipboard Marines for Long periods of time?
Posted by: Romeo13, Retired Inebriated Nautical Proffesional at June 20, 2013 09:55 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Com'dr Crunch at June 20, 2013 09:55 AM (2iU3x)
So many men from his generation were actual combat veterans that a Supply Guy looked like a Comparative Weenie
Posted by: Bertie Ahern at June 20, 2013 09:55 AM (omBWL)
Posted by: Louise at June 20, 2013 09:56 AM (mQmzV)
Posted by: Romeo13, Retired Inebriated Nautical Proffesional at June 20, 2013 01:48 PM (lZBBB)....
But we switched out our Navy Good Conduct medals to three years vice 4 to match everyone else. I mean was it really that hard to go 4 years to get one?
Posted by: Johnnyreb at June 20, 2013 09:57 AM (6McTJ)
Posted by: Trelawney Hope at June 20, 2013 09:57 AM (PjUqy)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 09:57 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 20, 2013 09:58 AM (BXLPR)
The President explained his confusion to the Chancellor as he apologised for calling him “Jeffrey” three times at the G8 summit of the world’s wealthiest nations.
A witness dubbed the series of slips “a visibly crushing blow” to the Chancellor.
George Osborne prides himself on being very pro-American — but that’s where the similarity ends.
JEFFREY OSBORNE, 65, is an R&B singer and songwriter whose hits include the 1982 ballad On the Wings of Love. His father, Clarence “Legs” Osborne, was a trumpet player who had 12 children and died when Jeffrey was 13.
GEORGE OSBORNE, 42, is the Oxford-educated MP for Tatton in Cheshire. His dad, Sir Peter Osborne, is the 17th Baronet of Ballentaylor and Ballylemon in County Waterford, Ireland, and co-founder of the posh fabric and wallpaper designers Osborne & Little.
Posted by: 57 States at June 20, 2013 09:58 AM (e8kgV)
Once we get to upgrade to Minx 0.71 alpha that problem should be fixed.
#twoweeks
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2013 09:58 AM (WW8xK)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at June 20, 2013 09:58 AM (CKNcG)
So if Crunch is actually Commander Crunch, what does this make Captain Kangaroo?
Or The Captain (and Tennille)?
Or Commander McBragg?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2013 09:58 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Captain Qunch at June 20, 2013 09:59 AM (++9Rf)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 09:59 AM (xw77v)
http://tinyurl.com/m23pu77
From Priests for Life
Posted by: caustic at June 20, 2013 10:00 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 20, 2013 10:00 AM (X6akg)
I'm asking for an idiot 20 year old.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 20, 2013 10:00 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Roy at June 20, 2013 10:00 AM (VndSC)
Of course, I don't get these newer cartoons anyway, not seeing the humor and not recognizing what the characters are supposed to be. I mean, I never paid attention to the "under the sea" part because he lived in a damn PINEAPPLE, a land-based fruit. And the squirrel astronaut confused me.
And don't even talk to me about Oswald the Octopus, with a penguin, a talking flower, a weiner dog in a bun, and assorted bizarro othr characters. THAT one used to put me to sleep!
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 20, 2013 10:00 AM (GoIUi)
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Posted by: Johnnyreb at June 20, 2013 10:01 AM (6McTJ)
Posted by: Trelawney Hope at June 20, 2013 10:01 AM (PjUqy)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 10:01 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 20, 2013 10:01 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 20, 2013 10:01 AM (jiESZ)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 10:01 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 20, 2013 10:01 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 20, 2013 10:01 AM (b9K4P)
Posted by: Gore Vidal at June 20, 2013 10:02 AM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: EC at June 20, 2013 10:02 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 20, 2013 10:02 AM (FRe+O)
Posted by: Trelawney Hope at June 20, 2013 10:02 AM (PjUqy)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 10:02 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: Bud Norton at June 20, 2013 10:02 AM (6cOMd)
Posted by: SurferDoc at June 20, 2013 10:02 AM (F+av1)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 10:03 AM (VtjlW)
I'm asking for an idiot 20 year old.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 20, 2013 02:00 PM (4Mv1T)
>
>
>
>Geez, TR you are always busy aren't you?
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at June 20, 2013 10:03 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: lincolntf at June 20, 2013 10:03 AM (ZshNr)
Does anyone else ever wonder how often Sandra Lee gets asked for the recipes to Sara Lee pastries? I bet it makes her eye twitch.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at June 20, 2013 10:03 AM (4df7R)
Okay, the line for those in the Horde who will now nobly volunteer to conduct an inspection to ascertain that truth of that assertion starts over there. Please maintain your position in line.
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 02:01 PM (VtjlW)
I'm ok with you checking as long as I get to watch.
Posted by: buzzion at June 20, 2013 10:03 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: © Sponge at June 20, 2013 10:03 AM (xmcEQ)
I never did figure out why he wasn't stripped of his commission for leaving fucking Wesley in control of the bridge.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 20, 2013 10:04 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at June 20, 2013 10:04 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar, Alliance Naval Reserve, Retired, Deceased at June 20, 2013 10:04 AM (zUi7I)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 20, 2013 10:04 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 20, 2013 10:05 AM (l3vZN)
Posted by: Pres**ent Barack “Unexpectedly” Obama at June 20, 2013 10:05 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 01:57 PM (VtjlW)
Set out a plate of them, turn your back, discover that they disappeared, and you didn't get any.
That's unfortunate.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2013 10:05 AM (WW8xK)
Posted by: George Orwell in his cups at June 20, 2013 10:05 AM (xw77v)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at June 20, 2013 10:06 AM (2iU3x)
evidently as of ST-In Duh Darkness I am told Starfleet is not a "military organization"...maybe Jean Lucky was running an adult daycare center
Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 20, 2013 10:06 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Guido at June 20, 2013 10:06 AM (8I9hB)
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 20, 2013 10:06 AM (++9Rf)
"Pretty girls ride for free!"
But I'm no pretty girl and don't wish to be,
Just take my fare and let me be.
Posted by: SurferDoc at June 20, 2013 10:07 AM (F+av1)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 20, 2013 10:07 AM (FRe+O)
I'm asking for an idiot 20 year old.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 20, 2013 02:00 PM (4Mv1T)
Use their passport.
Posted by: caustic at June 20, 2013 10:07 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 10:07 AM (VtjlW)
TSA rules and the airlines say they "might" accept other forms of valid ID, like SS card, or birth certificate. I told Road boy he'd need to get his DL renewed, first.
He's high maintenance he is. I have to gather all the FACTS, because my opinions mean exactly squat.
Thankfully his 16yo bro gives me exactly zero trouble. It's a "balanced approach".
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 20, 2013 10:07 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 20, 2013 10:07 AM (b9K4P)
Posted by: Tami at June 20, 2013 02:00 PM (X6akg)
The unknown soldier
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 20, 2013 10:08 AM (0Y/LU)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2013 10:09 AM (87Uf9)
Uncle Ben?
Not my uncle.
I was crushed the day I learned that news. CRUSHED.
Not as crushed as I was when I found out Ma Bell wasn't my mom.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2013 10:09 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Boo Berry at June 20, 2013 10:09 AM (2cfUo)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 20, 2013 10:09 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at June 20, 2013 02:06 PM (2iU3x)
Conductor. ("Leavin' on a midnight train, whoo-Hoo!")
Posted by: SurferDoc at June 20, 2013 10:09 AM (F+av1)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 20, 2013 02:07 PM (b9K4P)
They make that assumption because Water Navy's have evolved a set of rules to deal with long term voyages, with little to no outside contact...
Air Force rules are ill equipped for a Long Voyage.
Posted by: Romeo13, Retired Inebriated Nautical Proffesional at June 20, 2013 10:10 AM (lZBBB)
I am conflicted. As someone who takes cooking seriously, her fake food makes want to hurl. She also lives with one of the biggest cocksuckers on earth (Andrew Cuomo).
But she has rockin' boobs.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2013 10:11 AM (WW8xK)
Posted by: RobM1981 at June 20, 2013 01:55 PM (XFKC+)
It was inwented in 1918 by a little old lady in Vladivostok .
Posted by: CaWest at June 20, 2013 10:11 AM (1Rgee)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 20, 2013 10:12 AM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: Trimegistu
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That's how the rules read. But he'd fly from Logan next month and I'm sure those TSA folks aren't quite as a flexible as they might have been after the Brothers Karamazov were visited upon their fair city.
Plus oldest Road boy plays bass in a death metal band and is a tattoo artist apprentice, in addition to interning in a recording studio.
Imagine how that would go with those TSA goons.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 20, 2013 10:12 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 20, 2013 02:11 PM (WW8xK) -----
Aaannnnd I get sucked back in.
Posted by: Guido at June 20, 2013 10:13 AM (8I9hB)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 20, 2013 02:07 PM (b9K4P)
The Navy has a big presence at Area 51. Or so they say.
Posted by: SurferDoc at June 20, 2013 10:13 AM (F+av1)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at June 20, 2013 10:13 AM (CKNcG)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 20, 2013 02:07 PM (FRe+O)
That's for obvious non gay rights reasons. She doesn't want him to be chased around by younger versions of herself.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 20, 2013 10:14 AM (b9K4P)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at June 20, 2013 10:16 AM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 20, 2013 10:16 AM (FRe+O)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 20, 2013 10:16 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 20, 2013 10:17 AM (87Uf9)
I flew out of Logan a couple years ago without my ID (left it at home). I was just pulled aside by TSA and asked a couple questions---some biographical, a couple about my neighbors, nothing too crazy. 'Course, I'm about as white-bread as they come, so YMMV.
Posted by: Armando at June 20, 2013 10:18 AM (5iuEW)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 20, 2013 10:18 AM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Y-not still has all her teeth at June 20, 2013 10:18 AM (nq+Ye)
Posted by: lincolntf at June 20, 2013 10:19 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: jakeman at June 20, 2013 10:19 AM (96M6e)
Posted by: eleven at June 20, 2013 10:21 AM (KXm42)
How very convenient. Next you'll be telling us that there was never a "Captain Midnight", a "Sgt. Rock" or the "Boy Commandos" who served in the armed forces either.
Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at June 20, 2013 10:22 AM (Q1DS+)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 20, 2013 02:12 PM (4Mv1T)
He has a month, just go to Motor Vehicle and renew the license.
Posted by: caustic at June 20, 2013 10:22 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Guido at June 20, 2013 10:22 AM (8I9hB)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 20, 2013 10:23 AM (b9K4P)
Posted by: lincolntf at June 20, 2013 10:23 AM (ZshNr)
That was the case in the crew of the Space Shuttle. Commander and Pilot. The distinction was somewhat arbitrary: elevating a co-pilot function to the superior rank and making him leader and jack-of-all-trades back-up.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at June 20, 2013 10:25 AM (jhI6f)
Sir are you a Laker's fan? Sir why do you look nervous?
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at June 20, 2013 02:23 PM (b9K4P) ----------------
Aha!!! Gotcha!!!!!!
Posted by: Guido at June 20, 2013 10:26 AM (8I9hB)
Posted by: caustic
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He's in school eight states away from here where he is licensed. Logistical issues.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at June 20, 2013 10:28 AM (4Mv1T)
And yes, any large space fleet we ever build will be organized on naval precepts.
Posted by: Captain Ned at June 20, 2013 10:29 AM (i+Fm3)
Never heard of it. There is "Flag Captain", but that won't do.
Might have been somewhere else in the comments, but a modern CVN has multiple Captains:
Ship (under Battlegroup Admiral)
Airwing (under Battlegroup Admiral)
Reactor (under Ship CO)
Engineering? (under Ship CO)
Medical (Ship CO)
Posted by: Mr. Happy-Ounce of Prevention, Pound of Cure at June 20, 2013 10:42 AM (Hfjmb)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at June 20, 2013 10:45 AM (CKNcG)
Posted by: mr_jack at June 20, 2013 10:53 AM (TMG3G)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 20, 2013 10:59 AM (BDU/a)
Posted by: Lucky Pierre at June 20, 2013 11:15 AM (5fSr7)
Posted by: Andrew Solovay at June 20, 2013 11:22 AM (JVRVS)
Ace: *I want the truth!*
Capn Crunch: *You can't handle the truth!*
[pauses]
Capn Crunch: Son, we live in a world that has bowls, and those bowls have to be filled with delicious cereal. Who's gonna do it? You? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep on an empty stomach and curse Capn Crunch. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That delicious breakfast saves lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me in that bowl, you need me in that bowl. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very breakfast that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a spoon, and start eating. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Posted by: Ace at June 20, 2013 11:46 AM (jsPgy)
Posted by: KellyFromMesquite at June 20, 2013 11:56 AM (ELMcf)
Pfft! Whomever's on Marianne!
Posted by: KellyFromMesquite at June 20, 2013 12:05 PM (ELMcf)
Posted by: ketos at June 20, 2013 12:35 PM (x3wXD)
Up until the mid 1800's it was a title for a person, usually a captain, commanding more than 1 ship. Then it became an official flag rank for 1 stars. However, in 1899 the Navy stopped using it as an official command rank and it reverted to a title. During WW II they brought the rank of commodore back as a 1 star temporary flag rank, but at the end of WWII stopped promoting people to it and by 1950 there were no longer any 1 star commodores, and it was a again used as a title for a person commanding a squadron of ships. This allowed the Navy to promote from Captain (0-6) directly to rear admiral (O-
The Navy's O-6 to O-8 promotion did not (understandably) sit will with the other services who had to promote to brigadier general - a 1 star 0-7 rank before getting to the 2nd star and O-8 (Major General). As a result in 1982 DOPMA brought back the "Commodore Admiral" rank as a 1 star O-7 flag rank (general rank). However, that caused a lot of confusion in the Nav (I was a Navy Pilot then) because captains who commanded a squadron of ships were also "Commodores" but not Commodore Admirals. So they changed "Commodore Admiral" to Rear Admiral lower half in 1983.
As for titles used for commanding officers, the Marine was partially correct - the commanding officer of a "boat" is called a skipper regardless of his rank, but the term "boat" in the Nav is used for submarine - so a submarine CO is called a skipper, as is the CO of an aviation squadron (as opposed to a ship squadron such as a Destroyer Squadron which is commanded by a commodore who is, or at least was often a captain). However, the CO's of ships (destroyers, cruisers, minesweepers, oilers, aircraft carriers etc) are called Captain regardless of their rank. If you do not believe this, deploy as a Naval aviation officer and helo pilot on a destroyer and call the CO "skipper." I can assure you from experence that the conversation that follows is usually one way and often less than friendly. They really take that "captain" thing seriously.
Posted by: Mike at June 20, 2013 01:06 PM (z+6cs)
Not unusual on board a ship to call the senior officer "Captain" and/or Skipper. Most old WWII subs had LCDR's as Captains.
Those on land stations who were senior, were referred to by their actual
rank, mostly "Mr" if rank under CDR. The jarhead way up there is wrong.
Posted by: old salt at June 20, 2013 02:03 PM (EZjmq)
Needless to say, he spent most of his time on the ship during offloading just to be called Major and not Captain.
Posted by: Gunsmoke at June 20, 2013 03:17 PM (HJMfC)
Posted by: Nobody in particular at June 20, 2013 03:37 PM (LNmYT)
Posted by: Gromulin at June 20, 2013 03:37 PM (SNjPs)
Comment 412 pretty much has it nailed as far as the current and past useage of commodore, captain, and skipper.
The modern Navy keeps trying to get oldtimers (like me) to call submarines "ships".
They're boats, regardless of their displacement.
And the differences between subamrines and other vessels? All ships and boats eventually sink, only submarines are designed to come back up...
Posted by: gospace at June 20, 2013 04:25 PM (mkqcx)
The Navy Lt I'm on duty with has never heard of addressing a sister service O-3 as "Major" while assigned to or serving aboard a ship. Just sayin'.
Posted by: Brennan at June 20, 2013 05:13 PM (lyiO3)
Posted by: David at June 21, 2013 05:30 AM (bPJIa)
The real submarine Commanding Officers are O-5 rank. Those other COs on immitation submarines (aka boomers) are O-6s.
fwiw, the second CO on my boat was knicked The Dread Pirate Robert (no -s); a somewhat small man with a napoleon complex but hot damn if he couldn't run a ship in fine order. He was an asshole and challenging to work under but a good kind of asshole: if you didn't 'prove' yourself he always stayed an asshole to you, so during his command the cream of the crop rose and the detrius stayed put. He relieved our Engineer (O-4, #3 in chain of command just under the XO) for cause.
Posted by: blogRot at June 21, 2013 06:58 AM (A6JXc)
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