December 17, 2013

Study: White People Are Pretty Dumb
— Ace

Via Instapundit, a study about White People being pretty silly about race.

The study goes like this: Two people are partnered up. One can see the picture of a subject person; the other person must find the matching picture from a bunch of pictures only he can see. The person trying to make the match can only ask Yes/No questions of the person who can see the picture which they're trying to match. So the one question asks about gender, hair color, eye color, and etc., trying to figure out which picture his partner is looking at.

In the study, White People refused to ask a very basic question -- "Is this person black?" -- 43% of the time. When they were partnered with a black person, they refused to ask it 79% of the time.

There's a bad side and a good side to this. The bad side is obvious: Many white people are so scared of being seen as racist that they're not willing to talk about simple facts -- and, ironically, they end up being seen as racist as a result. Many whites' sensitivity to racism may have gone so far past the point of diminishing returns that it actively harms their relations with blacks. They place so much importance on demonstrating that black people don't make them nervous that black people make them nervous.

The good side is, of course, that overt racism has been well and truly stigmatized.

And yet it's been stigmatized to the point of absurdity and, actually, stigmatized to the point of racial condescension. When the stigma against racism turns into a stigma against merely acknowledging someone's race -- as if blackness itself were some kind of taboo condition which mustn't be mentioned in polite company -- an attempt to "appear sensitive" becomes its own sort of race consciousness.


Posted by: Ace at 09:19 AM | Comments (358)
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1 I'm black and I'm proud.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 17, 2013 09:20 AM (Ob/LA)

2 How would you describe Fat Albert?

Posted by: wooga at December 17, 2013 09:21 AM (ViY+D)

3 I'm white and I'm...as proud as I can be of something I had absolutely no control over.

Posted by: Viridian at December 17, 2013 09:22 AM (xd4GQ)

4 For the love of God don't say it out loud!!!

Posted by: White Person at December 17, 2013 09:22 AM (NF2Bf)

5 Other examples: Is the shooter a socialist? Is the President a Marxist? Does the Pope shit in the woods?

Posted by: t-bird at December 17, 2013 09:22 AM (FcR7P)

6 What does one expect after being beat up about it fr 50 years.

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 09:22 AM (T2V/1)

7 It's racist to talk about white people trying not to be racist.

Posted by: Filly at December 17, 2013 09:23 AM (xJhbp)

8 I was born a poor, black boy.

Posted by: garrett at December 17, 2013 09:23 AM (TXAd5)

9 I missed all the track events in the 2012 Olympics. Because I don't see race.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 17, 2013 09:23 AM (ZPrif)

10 If anything can be a sign of racism then naming a race must be double-super-fabulous racist. It's pretty absurd.

Posted by: joncelli at December 17, 2013 09:23 AM (RD7QR)

11 3 I'm white and I'm...as proud as I can be of something I had absolutely no control over. Posted by: Viridian at December 17, 2013 01:22 PM (xd4GQ) White Supremicist!!!1! /sarc

Posted by: nnptcgrad at December 17, 2013 09:23 AM (fUOon)

12 I'm white and I'm wow'd.

Posted by: Lies are the best guys at December 17, 2013 09:24 AM (rCS6C)

13 Should we be talking about this?

Posted by: George Costanza at December 17, 2013 09:24 AM (TXAd5)

14 Content of their character, etc. You'd think almost 50 years later that we would have made some progress.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 17, 2013 09:24 AM (659DL)

15 You only have to look at the stories about the knockout game to know this. Its racist for cops or reporters to ever describe the race of the perpetrators. But only for one race

Posted by: thunderb at December 17, 2013 09:24 AM (GTgNo)

16 If the 1st question asked was the person's race those people would have been considered racist.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 17, 2013 09:24 AM (P1WNR)

17 Because "black" is a cause, not a descriptor.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 09:24 AM (P6QsQ)

18 How would you describe Fat Albert? Animated.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 17, 2013 09:25 AM (659DL)

19

"The good side is, of course, that overt racism has been well and truly stigmatized. "

Hahahaha come down to Watts with me and talk to the homies and see what you think about that.  That lovely sentiment is only true among white people.  The rest are PROUD of their overt racism.  Guaranteed.

Posted by: DAve at December 17, 2013 09:25 AM (b7yum)

20 It doesn't matter if you ignore the elephant  in the room.  He still knows you are a Racisit. You Racist.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at December 17, 2013 09:25 AM (fA3u5)

21 In the study, White People refused to ask a very basic question -- "Is this person black?" -- 43% of the time. When they were partnered with a black person, they refused to ask it 79% of the time. That's a nice size pool to pick a crime reporter.

Posted by: RWC at December 17, 2013 09:25 AM (fWAjv)

22 How would you describe Fat Albert?

Posted by: wooga at December 17, 2013 01:21 PM (ViY+D)

___________________________

Big lipped.........

What?  You know we're all thinking it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 17, 2013 09:25 AM (32Ze2)

23 They have forced you to condemn yourself as a racist even if you've done no such thing.

40 years of constant, forced indoctrination.

Where do you think all that internal contradiction is going to go?

Any guess why I'd say "race relations" are at their worst point in this country at any time since the passage of the "Civil Rights" Act?




Posted by: RoyalOil at December 17, 2013 09:26 AM (VjL9S)

24 "Don't Pick on the Black Kid" is why Obama is exempt from the US Constitution...

It also dooms the US IMHO.

Posted by: sven at December 17, 2013 09:26 AM (9jfyN)

25 3rd ward Houston. You would never see parades of whites trapsing through there complaining about it however

Posted by: thunderb at December 17, 2013 09:26 AM (GTgNo)

26 Hence the qualifier "not that it means anything."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 09:26 AM (olDqf)

27

Ah yes, the racism card.  The card that allows us to remember Mandela without commenting on the genocide of whites in South Africa.  20 whites are killed a day in South Africa.

 

But you never hear that, eh?  Fuck racism and all the fucking hucksters.

Posted by: prescient11 at December 17, 2013 09:27 AM (tVTLU)

28 I'm white and fucking awesome.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 09:27 AM (r/Zvc)

29 Heh, they're all pink inside...

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 17, 2013 09:27 AM (GjPnA)

30 6 What does one expect after being beat up about it fr 50 years.Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2013 01:22 PM (T2V/1)
Their task is almost completed.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 17, 2013 09:27 AM (VpMO0)

31 The easy way around this is to ask "shade" questions: is the picture of somebody darker than Will Smith? Lighter than Wesley Snipes?

Posted by: wooga at December 17, 2013 09:27 AM (ViY+D)

32 There was a kids board game I used to play with my children when they were little. They loved it. Each person had a set of small cards they could insert in plastic holders that flipped up and down. You had to guess which single character your opponent had by asking questions, male - female, skin colour, big - small nose, hair colour etc. You flipped possible characters down by elimination.  I wonder if you can still purchase this racist, genderist game? How would you know if the female looking character was not trans for example?  

Posted by: Vizzy at December 17, 2013 09:28 AM (H0lcY)

33 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 09:28 AM (PYAXX)

34 Maybe you pinkies are dumb, but leave us out of it!

Posted by: Albino Anti-defamation League at December 17, 2013 09:28 AM (+H/11)

35 Freckle power! Down with ginger discrimination! No sunscreen, no peace

Posted by: thunderb at December 17, 2013 09:28 AM (GTgNo)

36 And yet it's been stigmatized to the point of absurdity and, actually, stigmatized to the point of racial condescension. When the stigma against racism turns into a stigma against merely acknowledging someone's race -- as if blackness itself were some kind of taboo condition which mustn't be mentioned in polite company -- an attempt to "appear sensitive" becomes its own sort of race consciousness.

TBH, if "the black community" didn't also simultaneously to leverage that attitude at every possible turn - while also bitching about it - then it would stop.

Then again, having your cake and eating it too is the reason for being for the black grievance industry.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 17, 2013 09:28 AM (d4ZzM)

37 Male or female?

Why so cisnormative, hater?

Posted by: Pious Agnostic at December 17, 2013 09:28 AM (2Pd3s)

38 The game is called Guess Who?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 17, 2013 09:28 AM (ZPrif)

39 Today's kids, how old are they before they learn that the n-word is an epithet rather than the black equivalent of "ese"?

Posted by: AmishDude at December 17, 2013 09:29 AM (T0NGe)

40 The Jeneane Garafalos have won.  Unfortunately.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 09:29 AM (KXm42)

41 And yes, I know "shade" is racist. I have a mixed race kid (biologically) so I am exempt.

Posted by: wooga at December 17, 2013 09:29 AM (ViY+D)

42 Posted by: Vizzy at December 17, 2013 01:28 PM (H0lcY) Guess Who? And, yes, I think you can still find it.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 09:29 AM (PYAXX)

43 That was a statement, not a question. The game is called "Guess Who?".

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 17, 2013 09:30 AM (ZPrif)

44 Oh Yeah - The Guess Who Game by Hasbro.

Posted by: Vizzy at December 17, 2013 09:30 AM (H0lcY)

45 Freckle power! Down with ginger discrimination! No sunscreen, no peace

Posted by: thunderb at December 17, 2013 01:28 PM (GTgNo)

thunderb is a ginger?!?!?!??!

Why was I not informed?!?!?

Really, Horde, we need better data sharing here. 

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 17, 2013 09:30 AM (d4ZzM)

46 Heh, they're all pink inside...

Pink, yes.  Also, red and other colors.

Posted by: Dexter Morgan at December 17, 2013 09:30 AM (4WhSY)

47 The 1st question I'd ask is "Does the person look Irish, do they have a drink in their hand?"

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 17, 2013 09:30 AM (P1WNR)

48 The fact that I'm always the first example of something everyone else seems to do a lot more doesn't say anything to me about race, it just says people are bonkers.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Somethingorother at December 17, 2013 09:30 AM (qyfb5)

49 "Many white people are so scared of being seen as racist that they're not willing to talk about simple facts"

What else would anyone ever possibly expect?

Here's how the dialogue has always gone in the past.

The Left: "Let's have a national conversation about race. You go first."

The Right: "Good idea, let's do that. Okay, so, first of all..."

The Left, interrupting: "You vicious racist fuck. You're a shameful disgrace to humanity. Even having this conversation is legitimizing your sick, sadistic views and that's just not anything any civilized person can tolerate." *stomps out indignantly*

Posted by: torquewrench at December 17, 2013 09:31 AM (gqT4g)

50 Some of my best friends are pretty dumb.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 09:31 AM (C2ugk)

51 I miss Looney Tunes.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 09:31 AM (KXm42)

52 Does the person's IP address go as 173.226.71.34? ^^ stil banned.

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 17, 2013 09:31 AM (ZBjRZ)

53 This is what pisses me off so much about the "system keeping minorities down" bullshit.  In a nation so terrified of even *seeming* racist (because, obviously, racism is wrong) that white people won't even mention the basic fact that a person is black, how on Earth is "The System" rigged so that whitey rulez all?

Posted by: Filly at December 17, 2013 09:31 AM (xJhbp)

54

@46

Yes,  go on..

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 17, 2013 09:32 AM (GjPnA)

55 Guys in general have this problem - with women's boobehs. If they see a woman with a huge rack, they think "Jeez, what a huge rack", but can't even make a note about that to the woman,  even while staring directly at them.

Posted by: Roy at December 17, 2013 09:33 AM (VndSC)

56 The President is a ::GONG::

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 09:33 AM (KXm42)

57 The good side is, of course, that overt racism has been well and truly stigmatized. I totally disagree. Liberals constantly talk down to Blacks. Liberals and fellow Blacks get a "get out of jail free card" when being racists. Only conservatives can be racist. Period.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 09:33 AM (0FSuD)

58 The easy way around this is to ask "shade" questions: is the picture of somebody darker than Will Smith? Lighter than Wesley Snipes? ZOMG paper bag party racism!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 09:34 AM (4QSOR)

59 34 Maybe you pinkies are dumb, but leave us out of it!



Solidarity!

Posted by: Jackie Rogers Jr. The World's Greatest Albino Performer at December 17, 2013 09:34 AM (vgIRn)

60 55 Guys in general have this problem - with women's boobehs. If they see a woman with a huge rack, they think "Jeez, what a huge rack", but can't even make a note about that to the woman, even while staring directly at them.

Posted by: Roy at December 17, 2013 01:33 PM (VndSC)


I think after a certain age women figure out why your eyes are on her chest and not her face.

Posted by: joncelli at December 17, 2013 09:34 AM (RD7QR)

61

I saw Shameful Disgrace open for Vicious Racist Fuck at Pine Knob in '92.

 

There were many people of indeterminate race  in the parking lot  trying to sell me little American flags on the end of toothpicks.

Posted by: White Person at December 17, 2013 09:34 AM (NF2Bf)

62 Yes, go on..

Be right with you, Mrs. Clinton.  Laying down some plastic sheeting over here.

Posted by: Dexter Morgan at December 17, 2013 09:34 AM (4WhSY)

63 You're racist if you ask, you're racist if you don't. RACISTS!

Posted by: --- at December 17, 2013 09:34 AM (MMC8r)

64 No need to say anything Roy.

She knows.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 09:35 AM (KXm42)

65 That reminds me- saw some post somewhere on the intarwebz (I could find it again if I wanted, but I don't): "Black People Hate It" or something like that. Now, I'm not going to talk about the list except to say every one of the pictures had black people looking at white (or sometimes asian) people as if they were stupid and/or evil. And I thought, "What if I compiled similar photos, but of white people being horrified by the behavior of black people, and named it 'White People Hate It?'" Of course we all know the answer. I'd be denounced as an evil racisty racist. And probably a "h8r" to boot.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 09:35 AM (PYAXX)

66

When I was a kid my sisters filled an aquarium with dirt and black ants.

So my brother and I, being the scientific types, dumped in a goodly portion of red ants.

They didn't get along at all. Stupid racist ants!

 

 

Posted by: Roland THTG at December 17, 2013 09:35 AM (QM5S2)

67 I think after a certain age women figure out why your eyes are on her chest and not her face.  Posted by: joncelli at December 17, 2013 01:34 PM (RD7QR)

Yeah, but they always say it like it's a bad thing.  

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 17, 2013 09:35 AM (d4ZzM)

68 When your ideas contradict reality, people become unhappy. Racism exists, and will ALWAYS exist, in EVERY Race, because of basic genetic drives. We are wired to perpetuate our OWN Genes... This starts with us, then goes to Family, then extended Family, then those like us... Its part of the Darwinian Process (that the Left so loves to believe in)... Note, that EVERYWHERE, even in America, the vast majority of people Self Segregate. They live in Neighborhoods with those like them. When it IS a choice. Problem is that only Whites have been socially conditioned that this NORMAL Genetic drive, is EVIL.... and so we are overly self conscience and over compensate. Its the same with the Man / Woman thing. Men and Women ARE different, and we are WIRED to treat each other differently.... so when we try to counter that genetic programing, everyone becomes unhappy...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 17, 2013 09:36 AM (lZBBB)

69 I don't get affirmative action for Hispanics. "Legacy of slavery" sure, OK. And Hispanic also includes "from Spain". The one in Europe. With all the white people.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 17, 2013 09:36 AM (T0NGe)

70 I see the Mullahs have wiped their hairy and stretched out asses on da Zero's latest smert diplomacy. Everything he touches bears the mark of his competance.

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2013 09:36 AM (xWW96)

71 *edits tape of experiment* He looks black. *klaxons sound, men in hazmat suits come in to grab questioner*

Posted by: NBC Scientist[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 09:37 AM (4QSOR)

72 The 1st question I'd ask is "Does the person look Irish, do they have a drink in their hand?"
Posted by: Dr Spank

Go for the trifecta: "Do they have a drink in one hand and a spud in the other?"  Works for me!

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2013 09:37 AM (HjPtV)

73 There is certainly racism in America. Everyone knows it. Something should done about it. Maybe if we could elect a great Uniter, with 94% of the perpetual victims of racism voting for this person-- based almost entirely on the color of his skin-- then this scourge upon our nation would finally endÂ… or not.

Posted by: Andy in FL at December 17, 2013 09:37 AM (nf/Xx)

74 I recently took a trip accompanied by family and friends, including a young black man.  While waiting in the airport, he made a trip to the convenience shop to buy some Chapstick and a bottle of water.  At the counter, the clerk said to him "I don't know if you saw the price on that Chapstick - it's $5." 

He got angry at the clerk.  I asked him why.  I thought it was nice of her to warn him that something you can get at Walmart for 99 cents was $5 at the airport.

He said, "She would have never told me that if I wasn't black.  Like she thinks I can't afford that because I'm black or something."

If that had been me I would have thanked her for the heads up and waited till I got off the plane, but my friend thought he had just been insulted because of his race.


Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 09:37 AM (P6QsQ)

75 Hasbro is racist! 43 That was a statement, not a question. The game is called "Guess Who?". As in "Guess who's coming to dinner?" You're all racist.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 09:37 AM (C2ugk)

76 I really didn't have anything to add to the conversation. I just wanted to mention boobehs, because   well,  boobehs.

Posted by: Roy at December 17, 2013 09:37 AM (VndSC)

77 We are wired to perpetuate our OWN Genes... Deliverance?

Posted by: AmishDude at December 17, 2013 09:37 AM (T0NGe)

78 I think Dexter and Hillary could swap tips on how to dress like a lumberjack.

Posted by: wooga at December 17, 2013 09:38 AM (ViY+D)

79 A black man is President of the United States after being twice elected.  Racism?  Case closed.

Posted by: toby928© from the Phantom Zone at December 17, 2013 09:38 AM (evdj2)

80 Is it racist to point out rap?

Posted by: Caliban at December 17, 2013 09:39 AM (DrC22)

81 76 I really didn't have anything to add to the conversation. I just wanted to mention boobehs, because well, boobehs.

Posted by: Roy at December 17, 2013 01:37 PM (VndSC)


Understandable. But look at their eyes once in a while, okay?

Posted by: joncelli at December 17, 2013 09:39 AM (RD7QR)

82 *singing*  Ebony and ivory......

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 09:39 AM (r/Zvc)

83 Here's an Atlantic article on the Upworthy phenomenon. http://tinyurl.com/mgrhy5c The CEO used to work at MoveOn. The Gates Foundation has recently invested in it. ---excerpt--- Today, Upworthy is a million-hit machine for heartfelt, progressive content, and it is trying to use this alchemy—spinning hearty fiber into viral gold—on behalf of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. On Tuesday, the company announced it is launching a global health and poverty section backed with Gates money, suggesting a future for not only the site's editorial strategy but also for its business. Upworthy has mastered the dark viral arts with a unique blend of A/B technology and lily-white earnestness. The staff scours the Web for "stuff that matters," writes multiple headlines for a test audience, selects the top-performer, and blasts it out on social media. It's a deceptively simple plan that's devouring the Internet, one Facebook Newsfeed at a time. The site nearly surpassed 50 million unique visitors in October, which suggests traffic comparable to giants like Time.com, and Fox News.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 17, 2013 09:39 AM (ZPrif)

84 I'm white and I had a guy worn me  about  the price of some shoes I was looking at.


I appreciated it.

But then again maybe I just looked poor to the guy.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 09:39 AM (KXm42)

85 "In the study, White People refused to ask a very basic question -- "Is this person black?" -- 43% of the time." Liberals. "When they were partnered with a black person, they refused to ask it 79% of the time." Liberals plus CINOs (Boehner, Ryan, etc.).

Posted by: NotCoach at December 17, 2013 09:40 AM (juuRy)

86 Is it racist to point out rap?
Posted by: Caliban

Only if you're talking about how awesome it is.

Posted by: Bruce at December 17, 2013 09:40 AM (v+HXt)

87 79 A black man is President of the United States after being twice elected. Racism? Case closed.

Posted by: toby928© from the Phantom Zone at December 17, 2013 01:38 PM (evdj2)


Yeah, but he didn't win both times by 100 percent of the vote so obviously there's much work left to be done.

Posted by: joncelli at December 17, 2013 09:40 AM (RD7QR)

88 *singing* Ebony and ivory......

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 01:39 PM (r/Zvc)

Can we all just get along?!?!?

Except you Reginald Denny.  

Except you.

Posted by: Rodney King[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 17, 2013 09:40 AM (d4ZzM)

89 79A black man is President of the United States after being twice elected. Racism? Case closed.

Posted by: toby928© from the Phantom Zone at December 17, 2013 01:38 PM (evdj2)

 

 

 

 

He is only half black. That means he is black if a Democrat, a goddam Uncle Tom if he was a Republican. Simple as that.

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2013 09:40 AM (xWW96)

90 Racism? Shit, I know those Jews are all racist. Just ask Freddie. That racist MFer got what was coming to him. http://tinyurl.com/bo9cok6

Posted by: Rev Al at December 17, 2013 09:41 AM (0FSuD)

91 Study: People Who Conduct Studies Are Dumb, Racist

Posted by: Stu-22 at December 17, 2013 09:41 AM (AiYlm)

92 Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 01:37 PM (P6QsQ) When you self segregate into a Minority, you can then see ANY interaction as stemming from Race... Its like... Lesbians.... how in the HELL would anyone know you are a Lesbian, or Gay Man, to be able to discriminate against you UNLESS you were out there TELLING THEM? Unless you were putting forth that Identity, so you COULD then blame discrimination for any possible negative outcome.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 17, 2013 09:41 AM (lZBBB)

93 To continue my thought from above- Then I got to thinking, and I realized that the list itself was racist- against blacks. This thing that had been compiled to show how stupid blacks thought whites (and sometimes asians) were was really showing something about blacks- their own insecurity. The first photo was a white guy at the MKL memorial, standing in front of it mimicking MLK's pose. In the background is a black guy with a look on his face like, "No, that's MY race's hero, you're not allowed to want to emulate him. The only thing you're allowed to do is cry at my feet begging forgiveness." And, with only a couple exceptions (mostly involving the fact that a certain portion of the black population not getting cosplay), they were all like that. They were all, "No, this thing belongs to my race, you can't have it, too." As though ONLY BLACKS don't realize that history is shared, as is culture, and that we get to think MLK was pretty cool, and whatever the others were.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 09:41 AM (PYAXX)

94 Amishdude:  Indeed.  If anything we should get reparations from Mexico for their actions with the Alamo.  lol

Posted by: prescient11 at December 17, 2013 09:41 AM (tVTLU)

95 He got angry at the clerk. I asked him why. I thought it was nice of her to warn him that something you can get at Walmart for 99 cents was $5 at the airport. The game is rigged. It's a nice day, your windows are down. A black group pulls up next to you in a car blasting the most vile, hateful music you've ever heard. You roll up your window. You've just done a racist, hateful thing. Instead you should have celebrated that difference of culture and left your windows down.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 09:41 AM (4QSOR)

96 So does this mean we can lift the ban on "Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS2gxYPtbOw

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 09:42 AM (olDqf)

97 "80 Is it racist to point out rap? Posted by: Caliban at December 17, 2013 01:39 PM (DrC22)" I was once told it was, many years ago, by a coworker. I wanted to slap the black off his face.

Posted by: NotCoach at December 17, 2013 09:42 AM (juuRy)

98 Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 01:37 PM (P6QsQ)

That story makes me so sad.  The poor kid has been conditioned to expect the worst in people.

Posted by: Filly at December 17, 2013 09:42 AM (xJhbp)

99 Easy problem to get around in the 'study' as I see it, by asking innocent questions. Do you think they have rhythm? Do you think they like fried chicken? Could their favorite dessert be watermelon? Could their name be Taneesha?

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 17, 2013 09:42 AM (LsF5M)

100 or Gay Man, to be able to discriminate against you UNLESS you were out there TELLING THEM?

Unless you were putting forth that Identity, so you COULD then blame discrimination for any possible negative outcome. Posted by: Romeo13

Sometimes the assless chaps and nipple clamps will tip people off.

Posted by: Bruce at December 17, 2013 09:42 AM (v+HXt)

101  There is certainly racism in America. Everyone knows it. Something should done about it. Maybe if we could elect a great Uniter, with 94% of the perpetual victims of racism voting for this person-- based almost entirely on the color of his skin-- then this scourge upon our nation would finally endÂ…

or not.

Posted by: Andy in FL at December 17, 2013 01:37 PM (nf/Xx)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

It's why I keep listening to Rush.  He was the lone major voice in the media that was saying that Dear Leader was going to push race relations back 50 years. 

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 09:42 AM (r/Zvc)

102 65 Stuff Black People Hate???

Posted by: DAve at December 17, 2013 09:43 AM (b7yum)

103 The racists give this inept president a pass, just because he's (half) black. I guess they just didn't expect much more out of him.

Posted by: Chris M at December 17, 2013 09:43 AM (k3w9p)

104 95 It's a nice day, your windows are down. A black group pulls up next to you in a car blasting the most vile, hateful music you've ever heard. This is when we go for Disc 1, Song 1...and enjoy Tom Araya's bloodcurdling scream at the beginning of Angel of Death. Plus, my car's faster. And louder. Celebrate that diversity, racists.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 17, 2013 09:43 AM (Ob/LA)

105 92 Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 01:37 PM (P6QsQ) When you self segregate into a Minority, you can then see ANY interaction as stemming from Race... Its like... Lesbians.... how in the HELL would anyone know you are a Lesbian, or Gay Man, to be able to discriminate against you UNLESS you were out there TELLING THEM? Unless you were putting forth that Identity, so you COULD then blame discrimination for any possible negative outcome. Posted by: Romeo13 at December 17, 2013 01:41 PM (lZBBB) Hence the lawsuit against the baker who refused to bake a wedding cake for a homo marriage. They went in and intentionally did this to create a scene/scandal/issue, etc. with which to beat us up in the media and advance the agenda. The baker should have agreed and charged them some ridiculous amount.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 09:44 AM (olDqf)

Posted by: DAve at December 17, 2013 09:44 AM (b7yum)

107 I hear "Ivory" I think of a soap that floats I hear "Ebony" I think of a magazine that nobody reads

Posted by: Joe Piscopo as Frank Sinatra at December 17, 2013 09:44 AM (7ObY1)

108 Sometimes the assless chaps and nipple clamps will tip people off.  Posted by: Bruce at December 17, 2013 01:42 PM (v+HXt)

Homoist!

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 17, 2013 09:44 AM (d4ZzM)

109 That story makes me so sad. The poor kid has been conditioned to expect the worst in people.

Posted by: Filly at December 17, 2013 01:42 PM (xJhbp)


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I know, it made me sad too. 

Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 09:44 AM (P6QsQ)

110 OT: I'm about to go buy myself $586 million. Shouldn't cost me more than a buck or two. Should the state of California subsidize lottery tickets in order to increase the chance that *they* will bring all the proceeds from these multi-state contests into their state? Surprised Sacramento hasn't gotten on that yet.

Posted by: t-bird at December 17, 2013 09:45 AM (FcR7P)

111 Speaking of racism. The brothers that got dissed at the Short Hills Mall? They didn't take that shit. Someone has to pay.

Posted by: Rev Al at December 17, 2013 09:45 AM (0FSuD)

112 how in the HELL would anyone know you are a ... Gay Man, to be able to discriminate against you UNLESS you were out there TELLING THEM? Get your gaydar calibrated.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 09:45 AM (PYAXX)

113 So what's the opposite of Ebonics; Ivorics?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 09:45 AM (olDqf)

114 I hear Ebony and I think of a Les Paul Custom.

Posted by: garrett at December 17, 2013 09:45 AM (TXAd5)

115 I have tried to convince my black coworkers that I won't hold the feckless incompetence of our semi black President against them as a group.

Posted by: toby928© from the Phantom Zone at December 17, 2013 09:45 AM (evdj2)

116 Jumpin' Jesus on a fucking joystick, the fucking upworthy PR campaign fucking continues?

Posted by: Guy Who Doesn't Give a Shit at December 17, 2013 09:46 AM (7ObY1)

117 The baker should have agreed and charged them some ridiculous amount.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 01:44 PM (olDqf)

Receipt:

Wedding Cake for 100:          $500.00
Legal Services Charge:      $200,000.00

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 17, 2013 09:46 AM (d4ZzM)

118 "As though ONLY BLACKS don't realize that history is shared, as is culture, and that we get to think MLK was pretty cool, and whatever the others were."

Exactly.  Segregation/Jim Crow hurt white people, too, by raising barriers between basic human interaction and encouraging racism, suspicion, and hatred.  That eats away at the soul.  The end of it benefited ALL Americans by allowing us to enjoy one another's society and truly fulfill what is written in the Declaration. 

Posted by: Filly at December 17, 2013 09:46 AM (xJhbp)

119 Posted by: akula51 at December 17, 2013 01:43 PM (Ob/LA) LOL..... yup.... all they soon hear is Vrroommmm..... and see the taillights...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 17, 2013 09:46 AM (lZBBB)

120 83 Flatbush Joe at December 17, 2013 01:39 PM (ZPrif)

Awesome, hey HJ tell us some more about UpWorfy...there's a real hunger for knowledge here on the topic chum.

Posted by: sven at December 17, 2013 09:46 AM (9jfyN)

121 I thought race was just a social construct.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 17, 2013 09:46 AM (VpMO0)

122 This is when we go for Disc 1, Song 1...and enjoy Tom Araya's bloodcurdling scream at the beginning of Angel of Death. SLAYER!

Posted by: garrett at December 17, 2013 09:46 AM (TXAd5)

123 112 how in the HELL would anyone know you are a ... Gay Man, to be able to discriminate against you UNLESS you were out there TELLING THEM? Get your gaydar calibrated. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 01:45 PM (PYAXX) Yeppers. Thought Daniel thye realtor that showed me a house Saturday was going to spontaneously combust.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 17, 2013 09:47 AM (LsF5M)

124 So what's the opposite of Ebonics; Ivorics?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 01:45 PM (olDqf)


English

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 17, 2013 09:47 AM (d4ZzM)

125 113 So what's the opposite of Ebonics; Ivorics? Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 01:45 PM (olDqf) ------- English. I denounce myself.

Posted by: Cold Rage at December 17, 2013 09:47 AM (Dz/ZL)

126 I have one test and one test only for the cult of Political Correctness. Could you make "Blazing Saddles" today? No? I rest my case.

Posted by: NYC Parent at December 17, 2013 09:47 AM (HEo6y)

127 122 SLAYER! It's the answer to many of life's challenges. Fuck it, at least ya feel better after those 28 minutes of bliss.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 17, 2013 09:48 AM (Ob/LA)

128 So what's the opposite of Ebonics; Ivorics? Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 01:45 PM (olDqf) ------- English. I denounce myself. Posted by: Cold Rage at December 17, 2013 01:47 PM (Dz/ZL) You should. Everyone knows it's Swedish.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 09:48 AM (PYAXX)

129 Can I never, ever, ever hear another word about whatever the fluke "upworthy" is, ever again? Pretty please?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 17, 2013 09:49 AM (7ObY1)

130 Bannion and Cold Rage. So close!

Posted by: Mainah at December 17, 2013 09:49 AM (659DL)

131 117 The baker should have agreed and charged them some ridiculous amount. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 01:44 PM (olDqf) Receipt: Wedding Cake for 100: $500.00 Legal Services Charge: $200,000.00 Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 17, 2013 01:46 PM (d4ZzM) I'd have charged them $10,000 and delivered Entenmann's sheet cake. Either that or Twinkies covered in Cool Whip (NB-doesn't that sound like some sort of homo code words?)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 09:49 AM (olDqf)

132 As an immigrant (legal), I've pretty much concluded that the following two statements are true: 1) America is crazy obsessed with race 2) America is the least racist country I know of

Posted by: votermom at December 17, 2013 09:49 AM (GSIDW)

133 Jumpin' Jesus on a fucking joystick, the fucking upworthy PR campaign fucking continues?



Posted by: Guy Who Doesn't Give a Shit

Considering your nick, why do you care?

Posted by: Blanco at December 17, 2013 09:49 AM (4WhSY)

134 Just a note. The lawyer killed in Short Hills was an evil Jew. Just happens, yeah right.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 09:50 AM (0FSuD)

135 Get your gaydar calibrated. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 01:45 PM (PYAXX) Yeppers. Thought Daniel thye realtor that showed me a house Saturday was going to spontaneously combust. Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 17, 2013 01:47 PM (LsF5M) Gaydar goes off by their Mannerisms... their Actions... their affectations.... I can introduce you to Gay men and women that you would NEVER be able to tell.... because the mannerisms they CHOOSE are not 'tells'...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 17, 2013 09:50 AM (lZBBB)

136 You should. Everyone knows it's Swedish. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 01:48 PM (PYAXX) -------- Damn dirty scandis.

Posted by: Cold Rage at December 17, 2013 09:50 AM (Dz/ZL)

137 I saw The Guess Who open for Thrill Up My Leg in '67.

Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at December 17, 2013 09:50 AM (27KAF)

138

Ace,

 

This reminds me of that story of you with the liberal chick, where she was just floored that you would describe a black guy as black.

 

I do wonder, did I grow up in some different environment.  Who are these fucking pussies that can't describe someone by race??  Has 1984 or A Brave New World happened already, and it just missed me??

 

PC is dangerous and strange b/c it prevents the mind from functioning rationally and properly.  One must always come up with "some other description".  Fucking joke.

Posted by: prescient11 at December 17, 2013 09:51 AM (tVTLU)

139 134 Just a note. The lawyer killed in Short Hills was an evil Jew. Just happens, yeah right. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 01:50 PM (0FSuD) Evil Jew. That's redundant, no? /s

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 09:51 AM (olDqf)

140 129 BlueStateRebel at December 17, 2013 01:49 PM (7ObY1)

I saw Twatter open up for Upworfy in Buttmunch Idaho back in '73...

Posted by: sven at December 17, 2013 09:51 AM (9jfyN)

141 Damn dirty scandis.

Posted by: Cold Rage at December 17, 2013 01:50 PM (Dz/ZL)


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Keep that up and I'm sending you a nice box of Lutefisk for Christmas.  From LAST Christmas.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 09:51 AM (P6QsQ)

142 It all depends where this study was done. I suspect that it was done in an urban area. Why do I suspect this? Because there is one unifying over-arching rule which summarizes all "new" rules concerning the public discussion of race. The only rule you need to know is this: White people are not allowed to mention or note the existence of race. Because if a white person does so -- even with the most positive or neutral intentions, he or she will be accused of racism. If the person is a conservative, they will be accused of overt racism. If the person is a liberal, they will be accused of unconscious racism, of unwittingly exercising their "white privilege." This is true in basically 99% of instances. All a white person needs to do to attract criticism as a racist is to merely acknowledge the existence of race, or say some word involving race. Most people here are conservatives and so are rightly sick of constantly being falsely accused of racism, and you might imagine that you are being unfairly singled out as a group with these accusations. But actually, there is an even worse circular firing squad on the left, where there are endless internicene accusations of racism and white privilege going on at universities and nonprofits or companies and comment-threads and other organizations or groups. Endless. Constant. Eric Holder and his Race Gestapo Krewe bait us for being "cowards" for "not discussing race enough," but there's a reason why no one ever discusses it: Because the phase "discuss race" is a euphemism for "Confess your sins, white man!" There is no discussion. Ever. The discussion has ended. Whites lost. All that remains is self-abnegation. This is why people in the study refused to ask the "obvious" question: they knew that to do so, however innocently and neutrally, would be perceived as a racist act. This Rule is well-known in most major cities; but perhaps it has not filtered out completely to all rural areas. Which is why I'm sure it must be an "urban setting" for the survey.

Posted by: zombie at December 17, 2013 09:52 AM (+cx5n)

143 Re: "If that had been me I would have thanked her for the heads up and waited till I got off the plane, but my friend thought he had just been insulted because of his race." This same thing has happened to me and I'm as white as the Obama Campaign HQ^(MSNBC Staff x Edgar Winters).

Posted by: Walsingham at December 17, 2013 09:52 AM (VnGOc)

144 133 Blanco at December 17, 2013 01:49 PM (4WhSY)

Indeed...I think we should start petitioning the Cobs to unban Lace Wigs as well...

b/c Upworfy is just about the same thing.

Posted by: sven at December 17, 2013 09:52 AM (9jfyN)

145 I can introduce you to Gay men and women that you would NEVER be able to tell.... because the mannerisms they CHOOSE are not 'tells'... Posted by: Romeo13 at December 17, 2013 01:50 PM (lZBBB) Of course. I've been surprised my self. By the pinch on the butt.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 17, 2013 09:52 AM (LsF5M)

146 Study: White People Are Pretty Dumb

 

Frankly, I'd say that white people are fine.  It's the too-PC-by-half guilt-tripped whites - Barky's voting bloc - that are pretty dumb.

 

Now, here's an awful thing.  Prior to Barky, my thoughts didn't particularly go in any singular direction when I saw a black man or woman.  Now, when I see a black man or woman - after nearly eight years of Obama - my thought is instantly, "hmm.  An O-bot.  I wonder just how much he / she hates me."  Because Obama has made blatant black racism "cool."

 

And if you don't believe me, ask the nearest victim of the knockout game.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 17, 2013 09:53 AM (zF6Iw)

147 This reminds me of that story of you with the liberal chick, where she was just floored that you would describe a black guy as black.

In the South, it's become one word, blackguy.  As in, Did you see that blackguy at the Olympics?

Posted by: toby928© from the Phantom Zone at December 17, 2013 09:53 AM (evdj2)

148

"PC is dangerous and strange b/c it prevents the mind from functioning rationally and properly."

 

 

 

Consider who invented PC and ask yourself if they were ever capable of rationally thinking in the first place. Like giving an algebra problem to an amoeba.

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2013 09:53 AM (xWW96)

149 Here's a WaPost article on the Upworthy phenomenon http://tinyurl.com/o22xazs Good graphs. Upworthy publishes very little compared to other sites. --- Prior to Upworthy the model for success online was to use fewer people than traditional news outlets do to create and curate much more content. Upworthy is using very few people to create no content and to curate very little. "Our top curators comb through hundreds of videos and graphics a week, looking for the 5-7 that theyÂ’re confident are super-shareable," Upworthy explains. "ThatÂ’s not a typo: We pay people full-time to curate 5-7 things a week." One reason Upworthy limits the content it unleashes is that they're focused on traffic from Facebook, and Facebook limits the amount of content a publisher can profitably post. Outlets on Facebook get punished if they're posting too much content to the site. So a Facebook-focused publisher like Upworthy has far sharper diminishing marginal returns than a traditional publisher who's extremely interested in, say, repeat viewers of their homepage. That said, we're in an era when repeat viewing of the homepage is a lot less important than virality on Facebook. So it's not clear that should hold much weight. The lesson of the social Web is that in terms of traffic -- and traffic is not the only metric publishers should worry about, but it's important -- one piece of content that goes viral is worth hundreds of pieces of content that don't.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 17, 2013 09:53 AM (ZPrif)

150 "A black man is President of the United States after being twice elected. Racism? Case closed."

When it comes to baseless allegations of racism, the case is NEVER going to be closed. Never. It's far too useful to the left and far too psychologically comforting for them.

My favorite? When Skip Gates was caught breaking into his house in Cambridge, MA, and didn't have ID on him to prove he lived there, or was the Harvard professor he claimed to be.

The Cambridget town cops sensibly suggested he have the campus police come vouch for his identity. While waiting for those cops to show up, Gates began to kick off verbally at the municipal officer, who retreated outside, because Gates is so noisy the cop can't hear his radio. Gates follows the guy outside and continues his loud confrontational harangue, at which point he gets arrested.

I'm sure we can all agree that a white guy would never, ever get arrested for acting that way towards a cop. White Privilege Card and all that.

But it's what happened next that was priceless.

Gates -- the black tenured Harvard professor -- calls four other friends of his to complain about how Whitey is keeping a brutha down with vicious racist bias.

Those four friends being:

-- his attorney Charles Ogletree, a tenured black professor at Harvard Law
-- the black Mayor of Cambridge
-- the black Governor of Massachusetts
-- the black President of the United States

You couldn't make this stuff up. Amazing how the "white power structure" turns out to be run by blacks, yet it's still all Whitey's fault.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 17, 2013 09:54 AM (gqT4g)

151 Black people don't like Slayer.

Posted by: Tyrone Shoelaces at December 17, 2013 09:54 AM (YmPwQ)

152 Keep that up and I'm sending you a nice box of Lutefisk for Christmas. From LAST Christmas. Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 01:51 PM (P6QsQ) --------- You can tell a difference? /runs

Posted by: Cold Rage at December 17, 2013 09:54 AM (Dz/ZL)

153 1) America is crazy obsessed with race
2) America is the least racist country I know of


Yep.. It's maddeningly stupid.  Again, it's because the Garafalos have won.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 09:55 AM (KXm42)

154 149 Flatbush Joe at December 17, 2013 01:53 PM (ZPrif)

Thanks for the update...now Facebook and Goggle are ran by Liberal dickheads...

they rig the game in bias against Right of Center memes...

so of course it is genius to think we should enrich Upworfy and Fartbox by increasing their traffic.

You should hire on with Mooch McDonald Champiom Dammer from KY with such insight HJ.

Posted by: sven at December 17, 2013 09:56 AM (9jfyN)

155 The origins of the Black & White cookie.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 17, 2013 09:56 AM (IXrOn)

156 If you just point at people and say "racist" over and over and over it becomes true.


Jeneane would make Goebbles proud.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 09:56 AM (KXm42)

157 Well lookie here. Another totes voluntary serious you guys cheek swab thingy in which the local police provided help. But it's okay you guys because the cops were there for security and a cop car there with flashing lights isn't coercive or stuff. http://bit.ly/18U2LIy Out of control, lucky to live through it, etc.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 09:57 AM (VtjlW)

158 The origins of the Black & White cookie. Dang it. Now I want an Oreo.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 09:57 AM (PYAXX)

159 Don't black people do this too? (see the heads of the NAACP)

Posted by: Clownf*cker at December 17, 2013 09:57 AM (W2YA6)

160 Eric Holder and his Race Gestapo Krewe bait us for being "cowards" for "not discussing race enough," but there's a reason why no one ever discusses it: Because the phase "discuss race" is a euphemism for "Confess your sins, white man!"  There is no discussion. Ever. The discussion has ended. Whites lost. All that remains is self-abnegation.


Nathan Bedford Forest himself could not have come up with a more perfect plan to demolish black America than to instill in the mindset of the American public - both black and white - that it's racist to so much as ask black Amercians to look at themselves in the mirror to determine what's wrong.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 17, 2013 09:57 AM (d4ZzM)

161

 

And yet it's been stigmatized to the point of absurdity and, actually, stigmatized to the point of racial condescension.

 

I just mentioned this to some folks last night. I serve on a suburban school board and Friday night is a big game against the nearby city high school. After games, their team, encouraged by the coach, likes to stomp on the home team’s logo at center court. They were told not to try that at our school. The coach responded by saying “Many of our fans have guns, and we do it as a signal for them to leave the building. Otherwise they may not leave.”

 

As a result, our police chief wants to use a metal detector wand on fans that night. Our admin refuses, saying it would be a sign of disrespect since we donÂ’t do it for games against other schools.  (And they believe the coach is b.s.ing.

 

When I was able to regain my composure, and moved beyond the safety concerns, I argued that our stance was condescending. That if any coach from a visiting “white” school with a history of trouble said it, we would not hesitate to take precautions, and gladly explain why to angry fans. But we won’t do it in this case, to protect the feelings of those sensitive types of people. The bigotry of low expectations turns logic on its head. Turns intelligent people dumb.

Posted by: CJ at December 17, 2013 09:57 AM (9KqcB)

162 OT: Bigamy is not legal. A N. Dakota court ruled that a man who is married to another man, can freely marry a woman in N. Dakota because the state does not recognize same sex marriage. Since the Federal government must recognize marriages if a state does (via the DOMA ruling), this means that the Federal government must recognize the bigamous marriages. http://tinyurl.com/kc8txye

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 17, 2013 09:57 AM (XvHmy)

163

I honestly think this whole can't talk about race thing is regional.  When I lived in Connecticut there was never a mention of black or Hispanic when they were describing a wanted person on the TV.  If they didn't say the guy was white, it was just inferred he was black or Hispanic.

 

Here in Kentucky I was shocked the first time I heard a TV news guy say the wanted person was a dark skinned black man.  At first I thought I had misheard it, but nope he repeated it later in the broadcast.  And every time I see something like that on the TV every time they have mentioned what race the perp is. 

Posted by: Registered voter at December 17, 2013 09:57 AM (BGFPo)

164 maddogg, indeed.  liberalism is a mental disorder.

Posted by: prescient11 at December 17, 2013 09:57 AM (tVTLU)

165 The Secret to the right taking over the media is I swear to God..."UpTwinkies" Charles Johnson is a genius....

or you know not.

Posted by: sven at December 17, 2013 09:58 AM (9jfyN)

166 155 The origins of the Black & White cookie. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 17, 2013 01:56 PM (IXrOn) Did involve forced busing?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 17, 2013 09:58 AM (UAMVq)

167 OT: Bigamy is [d]not[/d] NOW legal. A N. Dakota court ruled that a man who is married to another man, can freely marry a woman in N. Dakota because the state does not recognize same sex marriage. Since the Federal government must recognize marriages if a state does (via the DOMA ruling), this means that the Federal government must recognize the bigamous marriages. http://tinyurl.com/kc8txye Posted by: The Political Hat at December 17, 2013 01:57 PM (XvHmy)

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 17, 2013 09:58 AM (XvHmy)

168 Race, gender, whatever.

I find it astonishing that anybody gets laid anymore.

You're all rapists.

Posted by: Fritz at December 17, 2013 09:58 AM (UzPAd)

169 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 01:57 PM (VtjlW) Dang it. And I can't give that the rant it deserves. [Insert AllenG Standard 4th Amendment Rant (version 3.11) Here]

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 09:58 AM (PYAXX)

170 Gaydar goes off by their Mannerisms... their Actions... their affectations.... >>

When I was 18 I worked as a cashier at a grocery store One of the bag boys was gay but I didn't have a clue for months. Then one of his boyfriends came through my line while he was bagging. It was a complete flip from talking normally to what you picture as the most flaming. Even the subject became decorating and curtains.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 17, 2013 09:59 AM (TI3xG)

171 Keep that up and I'm sending you a nice box of Lutefisk for Christmas. From LAST Christmas. Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 01:51 PM (P6QsQ) How would anyone know?

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 09:59 AM (0FSuD)

172 Now, here's an awful thing. Prior to Barky, my thoughts didn't particularly go in any singular direction when I saw a black man or woman. Now, when I see a black man or woman - after nearly eight years of Obama - my thought is instantly, "hmm. An O-bot. I wonder just how much he / she hates me."

---------------




I have started to feel that way too and I hate it.  Which is one of the reasons I love going to church.  The one I attend is multi-racial and going there helps restore the healthy relationships I have with whoever and whatever.  When I walk in, I know I am loved and can likewise give back that same love with an open heart, and without fear.  It helps keep me sane in an insane world.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 09:59 AM (P6QsQ)

173 Is it racist to say "Cornel West"? How about "Maya Angelou"? Or is that sexist?

Posted by: Caliban at December 17, 2013 09:59 AM (DrC22)

174 Charles Johnson That's Jharles Chonson Because the corpulent creep obsessively Googles himself, hoping to find somebody, ANYBODY, talking about him. Because he USED to be somebody.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 17, 2013 09:59 AM (7ObY1)

175 151 Black people don't like Slayer. Shit. Foiled again.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 17, 2013 09:59 AM (Ob/LA)

176 Meh. It'll all work out.

Posted by: CAC at December 17, 2013 10:00 AM (zYQM9)

177  I have one test and one test only for the cult of Political Correctness.
Could you make "Blazing Saddles" today?
No?
I rest my case.

Posted by: NYC Parent at December 17, 2013 01:47 PM (HEo6y)

 

 

--------------------------------------------------

 

 

Another one.  Could Walt Disney, if he were still alive, produce "Song of the South"?

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 10:00 AM (r/Zvc)

178 170 The Hickster at December 17, 2013 01:59 PM (TI3xG)

Well now they can discuss doilies and how to decorate the arch...

Posted by: sven at December 17, 2013 10:00 AM (9jfyN)

179 Posted by: Cold Rage at December 17, 2013 01:54 PM (Dz/ZL)



Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 01:59 PM (0FSuD)

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o hey dere, ya da naughty list for sher

Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 10:01 AM (P6QsQ)

180 174 BlueStateRebel at December 17, 2013 01:59 PM (7ObY1)

I usually use BikeBoy the Jazz Flautist but he has fallen so far I want to show a flash of the white tail so to speak.

Posted by: sven at December 17, 2013 10:01 AM (9jfyN)

181 Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 02:01 PM (P6QsQ) A Yooper AND a Scandi? We're doomed.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 10:01 AM (PYAXX)

182 Reminda me of when I was in New Orleans. A buddy and I are walking Bourbon St. and end up in the gay district. He didn't realize it. We're getting drinks in some bar, twenty minutes in, I'm chatting with a local, Jeremy comes up to me wide-eyed - "this is a fucking gay bar!" "Yeah, man. They all are at this end of the block." He was beside himself that he couldn't tell. I guess all the guys were supposed to be in drag or something. The guy I was talking to said "I knew you two were straight the minute you walked up and ordered. Don't worry, guy, you're fuckin' ugly. I wouldn't do you with his dick." I joked him for weeks about that.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 10:01 AM (C2ugk)

183 I find it astonishing that anybody gets laid anymore. I love my conservative, beautiful, happy, smart, Mormon wife!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 10:02 AM (4QSOR)

184 160 Nathan Bedford Forest himself could not have come up with a more perfect plan to demolish black America than to instill in the mindset of the American public - both black and white - that it's racist to so much as ask black Amercians to look at themselves in the mirror to determine what's wrong. Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 17, 2013 01:57 PM (d4ZzM) So I just got a newsletter from my Marxist state assembly-crook Daniel Squadron (NY 26th diet). And here's a little tidbit: "Fairer Drug Laws: A large number of people carry around small amounts of marijuana. But the vast majority of those who get criminal records for it are young black and Latino men. The color of your skin, your gender, your age should not define whether your behavior is a criminal act or not. I'm proud to sponsor legislation that will deal with this injustice." What "injustice?" The pot possession or the racial background of the perp???? Fuck.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 10:02 AM (olDqf)

185

"Because the corpulent creep obsessively Googles himself, hoping to find somebody, ANYBODY, talking about him. Because he USED to be somebody."

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 17, 2013 01:59 PM (7ObY1)

 

 

Actually, He used to put out the image of being somebody, while hiding his actual subhuman piece of shit self from actual examination.

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2013 10:02 AM (xWW96)

186 I usually use BikeBoy the Jazz Flautist but he has fallen so far I want to show a flash of the white tail so to speak. Chunky Cheetos works too and what did Andy Breitbart call him, Jazzy McPonytail?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 17, 2013 10:03 AM (7ObY1)

187 Little Green Footballs is offending to all Martians.

Posted by: Charles Johnson at December 17, 2013 10:03 AM (EGPJQ)

188 Those four friends being:

-- his attorney Charles Ogletree, a tenured black professor at Harvard Law
-- the black Mayor of Cambridge
-- the black Governor of Massachusetts
-- the black President of the United States

You couldn't make this stuff up. Amazing how the "white power structure" turns out to be run by blacks, yet it's still all Whitey's fault.

Posted by: torquewrench

Yeah, but at least the copy got free beer and hugs in the Rose Garden.

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2013 10:03 AM (HjPtV)

189 cop, of course.

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2013 10:03 AM (HjPtV)

190 I have started to feel that way too and I hate it. Which is one of the reasons I love going to church. The one I attend is multi-racial and going there helps restore the healthy relationships I have with whoever and whatever. When I walk in, I know I am loved and can likewise give back that same love with an open heart, and without fear. It helps keep me sane in an insane world.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 01:59 PM (P6QsQ)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

I do the same thing.  Of course, here in OK the racial tensions aren't nearly as bad as they are  in other places, especially blue states.

 

Strange, huh?  That blue states seem to have the most  racial problems.  Hmmmm.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 10:03 AM (r/Zvc)

191
This post......

IT'S A TRAP!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at December 17, 2013 10:03 AM (TIIx5)

192 Retard 1 (black) on City Council here in Atlanta got offended by Retard 2 (white) using the term 'white paper'.

Retard 2 (who should've asked Retard 1 how he could've been elected to City Council while being such a colossal retard) stammered and admitted she didn't even know what the term 'white paper' meant, but didn't think it was racist.

Posted by: negentropy at December 17, 2013 10:04 AM (27KAF)

193 Dang it. And I can't give that the rant it deserves. [Insert AllenG Standard 4th Amendment Rant (version 3.11) Here] Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 01:58 PM (PYAXX) Well put. White chocolate covered Oreo? *shoves through usb port just in case* So we had our office Christmas lunch today and it was very nice. It would be bad form to face plant from a food coma on my desk, right?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 10:04 AM (VtjlW)

194 You could just ask if the person was a creepy-assed cracka. 

Posted by: Marmo at December 17, 2013 10:04 AM (QW+AD)

195 Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 02:01 PM (C2ugk) In fairness, there's a difference between seeing some gays in a bar (including the bartender), and realizing you're in a "gay bar." Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 02:02 PM (olDqf) I love the not-quite-said assertion there that "A large number of [white] people carry around small amounts of marijuana." See, the whites are doing it to! They're just not getting caught! Or if they are, they're just not being charged! No, we don't have any proof of any of those assertions, and you're racist for asking!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 10:05 AM (PYAXX)

196 I usually cut to the chase with "colored fella?". White men had all the power, but gave it up. Smart?

Posted by: nip at December 17, 2013 10:05 AM (jI23+)

197 So we can once again, credit leftists with turning society into a bunch of schizophrenics (sp?).

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at December 17, 2013 10:05 AM (DoZD+)

198

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 17, 2013 01:53 PM (ZPrif)

 

Are you getting paid to pimp the site?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 17, 2013 10:05 AM (zF6Iw)

199 It all depends where this study was done. I suspect that it was done in an urban area.

There's some truth to that, but on the other hand (at least here in Minnesota), there are very few black people outside the urban areas.

For example, here in Minneapolis where I live, black people comprise about 18% of the population.

Alexandria, MN with a population of about 11,000, a town far removed from the urban centers of the Twin Cities, Duluth, St. Cloud and Rochester?  .85% as of 2010.  That's up from only .42% in 2000.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 17, 2013 10:05 AM (SY2Kh)

200 On the outside chance you ever get the opportunity, ask a Liberal and/or an African American Liberal (the whole set, or the sub-set): What Do You Want? And as they blabber, write down what they want. Justice, Opportunity, etc. They'll go on for days if you let them, saying nothing. Then calmly describe how they already have it, and watch them go nuts. This is when the Koch, Bush, Racist, Misogynist, Class discussion flies. It's not something you should do often - it will rot your gut - but it's fun if you get the chance once in awhile.

Posted by: RobM1981 at December 17, 2013 10:06 AM (zurJC)

201
To be safe, I never eat blackberries, black-eyed peas, eggplant, or plums. 

Posted by: Doctor Fish at December 17, 2013 10:06 AM (pJF+c)

202

192 Retard 1 (black) on City Council here in Atlanta got offended by Retard 2 (white) using the term 'white paper'.

Retard 2 (who should've asked Retard 1 how he could've been elected to City Council while being such a colossal retard) stammered and admitted she didn't even know what the term 'white paper' meant, but didn't think it was racist. --

 --

--Why is toilet paper white?

 

Posted by: Racist products at December 17, 2013 10:07 AM (EGPJQ)

203 So we had our office Christmas lunch today and it was very nice. It would be bad form to face plant from a food coma on my desk, right?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 02:04 PM (VtjlW)

Psssst.

Upper?

Just slowly, slowly, slide the cash through the USB port and  DON'T LOOK AT ME!!!

Geeesh!  Amateurs.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 17, 2013 10:07 AM (d4ZzM)

204 We have to throw our own office party this year. The company isn't even chipping in to buy a pizza or three. Just like we now throw our own Summer picnic. But at least we still have jobs, after all the downsizing, all the closing of divisions, all the cutbacks including moving to a cheaper and crappier office. We still have jobs. For now. I guess I can deal with buying our own party food.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 17, 2013 10:07 AM (7ObY1)

205 It would be bad form to face plant from a food coma on my desk, right? Correct. You should find an unused office or meeting room, book it for the afternoon for "prep" and then face plant into a food coma there.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 10:07 AM (PYAXX)

206 Point of clarification: All chaps are assless; otherwise, they'd be leather pants. Nipple clamps, however, are a dead give-away. Unless they're attached to a WWII field phone. Then, they're just a party favor.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at December 17, 2013 10:07 AM (2oU2+)

207 Retard 2 (who should've asked Retard 1 how he could've been elected to City Council while being such a colossal retard) stammered and admitted she didn't even know what the term 'white paper' meant, but didn't think it was racist. Apparently 19th Cent British Parliament put blue covers on reports for consideration. They were called "blue papers". A shorter report that didn't rise to the standard of blue paper was given a white cover and called ... a "white paper". Ain't nothing racial in it.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at December 17, 2013 10:08 AM (4QSOR)

208 I'll put it this way:

No one can name a single neighborhood or area in ANY city in America where a black man would be in fear of his life if he were to walk down the sidewalk alone.

Yet EVERY SINGLE large major city in America has an area and neighborhood where a white man would be in fear of his life if he were to walk down the sidewalk alone.

Who are the racists?

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 17, 2013 10:09 AM (VjL9S)

209 Posted by: bonhomme at December 17, 2013 02:08 PM (4QSOR) Mark this date down in your calendars, folks. That was an explanation of something that didn't cost us sanity points.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 10:09 AM (PYAXX)

210

There's some truth to that, but on the other hand (at least here in Minnesota), there are very few black people outside the urban areas.

For example, here in Minneapolis where I live, black people comprise about 18% of the population.

Alexandria, MN with a population of about 11,000, a town far removed from the urban centers of the Twin Cities, Duluth, St. Cloud and Rochester? .85% as of 2010. That's up from only .42% in 2000.

 

 ---

I can vouch that here on the far north shore of Lake Superior, there are virtually no non-white people

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 17, 2013 10:09 AM (EGPJQ)

211 OK, go ahead and label me a racist. I'm just going to speak plainly without any tact.  I would look at the photos and note that some darker skinned people look like they are part negro. OK? Big deal.

I would say 95 percent of American born black people have some caucasian strain -- european, middle eastern or otherwise--or american indian in them. So what?  I have american indian in my heritage too.

So if the photo showed a medium complexion black person I would say, yeah, they have some negro and some white. Again, so what?

I'd even say that if partnered with a black person looking at the photos.

Posted by: Sphynx at December 17, 2013 10:09 AM (OZmbA)

212

The subjects of posts   these past couple of days  have me sitting on  so many  walks in a bar jokes  that I am getting the shakes from withdrawal. 

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2013 10:09 AM (m2CN7)

213 Who are the racists?  You are for pointing that out.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 10:10 AM (C2ugk)

214 Yet EVERY SINGLE large major city in America has an area and neighborhood where a white man would be in fear of his life if he were to walk down the sidewalk alone. Who are the racists? [Libtard:On] Well obviously whites. It's only the whites' racism that makes them afraid of those areas. The black has a much greater chance of being "stopped while being black" than the white does of getting mugged, knifed, or shot. And those are all morally equivalent. [Libtard:Off]

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 10:11 AM (PYAXX)

215 Or smart enough to know that racial discussions will get you into trouble.

Posted by: ejo at December 17, 2013 10:11 AM (GXvSO)

216 The one thing I know about race is that if the person is a victim the media reports him as a black guy, and if the person is a raping, murdering, knock out playing, felonious son of Obama there is no mention of skin color!

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at December 17, 2013 10:11 AM (vXqv3)

217 So I guess that makes me the dumb one.

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at December 17, 2013 10:12 AM (vXqv3)

218 213 Who are the racists? You are for pointing that out. Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 02:10 PM (C2ugk) ...and you are for noticing they pointed it out.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 17, 2013 10:12 AM (LsF5M)

219 201 To be safe, I never eat blackberries, black-eyed peas, eggplant, or plums. In Italian, the word for eggplant, melanzana, is also a racial pejorative for blacks. As anyone who ever watched The Sopranos knows, it's pronounced something like "mool-in-YAHN" in the southern dialects. Tony Soprano: "But you didn't put "Jewish" on your college application did you? What did you put?" Noah (Meadow's would-be boyfriend): "They can't ask about religion. I put African-American." Tony Soprano: "Let me get this straight, you're a moolinyahn, a ditsoon... a charcoal briquette."

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 17, 2013 10:12 AM (7ObY1)

220 @208

There are plenty of urban neighborhoods that are dangerous for a lone black person to walk through.

Now, I would agree there are no urban neighborhoods that are safe for white people but not black.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at December 17, 2013 10:12 AM (q/kmn)

221 198 Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 17, 2013 02:05 PM (zF6Iw)

It's like the Ugg Boots script has gone hive mind...

an intertesting story MP-4 and as that was a good story so too are Ugg Boots Good...

//Ugg Boots esq

Posted by: sven at December 17, 2013 10:13 AM (9jfyN)

222 The subjects of posts these past couple of days have me sitting on so many walks in a bar jokes that I am getting the shakes from withdrawal. Isn't that uncomfy?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 10:13 AM (PYAXX)

223 68 "It's part of the Darwinian process." I utterly reject the proposition that macroevolution led from goo to you. Also, as Darwinism is one of the foundational causes of evil in the 20th century (how it is directly tied to eugenics, euthanasia, the Marxist and Nazi ideologies, and of course, the holocaust), your point seems to be that wanting to preserve one's own purified gene pool (as part of Darwinian scientific fact), so is therefore OK-- or at least, "Stop blaming only white people for things that are caused by the need to preserve genes in everyone, white and black." But, I see no reason to be beholden to a disproved theory, so I recommend avoiding being an avowed racist (albeit with the excuse of "genes made me do it," which is basically what the Nazi's also said.). Darwinism is, in many ways, like global warming. It's all story-telling (no evidence of macroevolution) and "scientific consensus." Here's but one question (only one) for proponents of Darwinism to ponder: As the Neo-Theory of Darwinism clearly states that genetic mutations are the prime cause of change and adaptation (mutations do cause change-- I'm not denying this), which eventually leads to large-scale change (I am denying this), then explain how this fits with the complete lack of any example in the known scientific world of any mutation, even a single one, that actually adds new genetic information. How can something be getting more and more complex when there is zero evidence of said proposed vehicle for adding that complexity?

Posted by: Andy in FL at December 17, 2013 10:13 AM (nf/Xx)

224 In Soviet Russia bar walk into YOU.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 10:13 AM (KXm42)

225 I don't know royal oil . Seems most MLK boulevards aren't safe for blacks or whites . Less safe for whites , sure , but not really safe areas for anyone .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 17, 2013 10:13 AM (WK8VM)

226 "I recently took a trip accompanied by family and friends, including a young black man."

An acquaintance of mine from Germany had a somewhat similar experience. He had recently arrived, and was shopping in Hyde Park. It being summertime, he was looking at watermelons, and, watermelons not be all that common in Germany, he asked a fellow shopper how one can tell if a melon is ripe. I'm sure you can see what's coming: the fellow shopper was black, and she blew her stack.

In retrospect it's funny, but at the time being confronted with a shrieking harridan and not having any idea what the hell he did wrong was no fun at all.

Posted by: Brown Line at December 17, 2013 10:13 AM (WN9m7)

227 We do some coon hunting here in Minnesota.  But I suppose THAT is considered racist nowadays.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at December 17, 2013 10:14 AM (EGPJQ)

228 Dude....click bait!

Posted by: fluffy at December 17, 2013 10:14 AM (Ua6T/)

229 All that stuff about integrity and honesty and morals is just heteronormative, Western Civilizational (i.e. racist) crap.

/sarc off

Posted by: Jimbo at December 17, 2013 10:14 AM (V70Uh)

230 As anyone who ever watched The Sopranos knows, it's pronounced something like "mool-in-YAHN" in the southern dialects. "Mooli" for short.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 17, 2013 10:14 AM (LsF5M)

231 Let's not get niggardly with our comments.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 10:14 AM (0FSuD)

232 Aubergine.  That works for me.

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2013 10:16 AM (HjPtV)

233 It's an interesting phenomenon. When twitter and facebook rose to prominence they were interesting phenomenons. I find the media business interesting. I'm curious about what works and what doesn't.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 17, 2013 10:16 AM (ZPrif)

234 White people are the worst! Amirite?

Posted by: Amanda Marcotte at December 17, 2013 10:16 AM (/AHDz)

235 We hit the  stupidity  apex when  Niger went from being  NYE-jer    to  Nee-zhere.



Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 10:16 AM (KXm42)

236 208 I'll put it this way: No one can name a single neighborhood or area in ANY city in America where a black man would be in fear of his life if he were to walk down the sidewalk alone. Yet EVERY SINGLE large major city in America has an area and neighborhood where a white man would be in fear of his life if he were to walk down the sidewalk alone. Who are the racists? ======== Well, duh - the racists are the little old ladies who cross the street when they see aforesaid black man walking towards them. Just ask Obama.

Posted by: votermom at December 17, 2013 10:16 AM (GSIDW)

237 And free enterprise... what's that all about?

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2013 10:17 AM (HjPtV)

238 230 As anyone who ever watched The Sopranos knows, it's pronounced something like "mool-in-YAHN" in the southern dialects. "Mooli" for short. Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 17, 2013 02:14 PM (LsF5M) It's from "Hair" so it can't be racist, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6o8tvj8VFI

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 10:17 AM (olDqf)

239 Psssst. Upper? Just slowly, slowly, slide the cash through the USB port and DON'T LOOK AT ME!!! Geeesh! Amateurs. Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 17, 2013 02:07 PM (d4ZzM) *smacks* You know I don't do drugs! Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go suck down a Diet Coke or three. We still have jobs. For now. I guess I can deal with buying our own party food. Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 17, 2013 02:07 PM (7ObY1) I am incredibly grateful that I still have a job. We are a teeny tiny little office and the office Christmas lunch was more a thank you God that we made it to next year and a thank you from the boss for helping deal with the hell that has been the last few years. I would have been more than happy with chipping in for pizza but the boss is a good guy and wanted to do something nice for us.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 10:17 AM (VtjlW)

240 Hell, Royal Oil. Seriously I know people that won't even GO to the entire city of Portsmouth (Va), much less walk there. And I mean the entire city, not just certain neighborhoods. It's silly and unjustified, but they do have a reputation. That came from many years of violent crime.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 10:17 AM (C2ugk)

241 Or smart enough to know that racial discussions will get you into trouble. Posted by: ejo ---------------- Tell me about it.

Posted by: J. Derbyshire at December 17, 2013 10:17 AM (aDwsi)

242 Posted by: Brown Line at December 17, 2013 02:13 PM (WN9m7)

What a lovely impression of America she gave to a foreign visitor.

Posted by: Filly at December 17, 2013 10:17 AM (xJhbp)

243


>>>No one can name a single neighborhood or area in ANY city in America where a black man would be in fear of his life if he were to walk down the sidewalk alone.

 

Ahem. No, not accurate. Black on black crime is rampant in many cities. Detroit, LA, Chicago, Milwakee, you name it, even my little Upstate NY city.

Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at December 17, 2013 10:18 AM (3ZtZW)

244

ALL of this is just another form of chaos.  Chaos is what the  leftists want.   It's what the leftists need.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 10:18 AM (r/Zvc)

245 231 Let's not get niggardly with our comments. Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 02:14 PM (0FSuD) *ponders* *looks up definition* *more pondering* then just to be safe...RACIST!

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 17, 2013 10:19 AM (LsF5M)

246 Used to be a regular at a bar that did karaoke on the weekends. Always funny to see white people do rap, and then get to that awkward moment where an "n word" cropped up.

Posted by: brak at December 17, 2013 10:20 AM (M2qTM)

247 THE MIDDLE CLASS!

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 10:20 AM (0FSuD)

248 19 Hahahaha come down to Watts with me and talk to the homies and see what you think about that. That lovely sentiment is only true among white people. The rest are PROUD of their overt racism. Guaranteed. Posted by: DAve at December 17, 2013 01:25 PM (b7yum) We both know you're only speculating about Watts without real knowledge. How do I know? Watts is at least half "Hispanic" many of whom consider themselves white. Try a blacker city.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 17, 2013 10:20 AM (36Rjy)

249 “OK, and this guy is he white, black, or hispanic?” “He looks black.” “You are white and racist.”

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 17, 2013 10:20 AM (QF8uk)

250 *ponders* *looks up definition* *more pondering* then just to be safe...RACIST! Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 17, 2013 02:19 PM (LsF5M) You don't remember this epic fail? http://tinyurl.com/3s4g

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 10:21 AM (0FSuD)

251
So a white, hispanic, asian and some other race walk into a bar...

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 17, 2013 10:22 AM (MaP11)

252 Re-post from a previous thread. Heather turns on the sarc. --------- and ya wonder why they call conservatives racists... --------- I don't wonder. It's because they're hateful lying sacks of shit who project their own vile feelings and beliefs onto The Other to protect their psyches from the pain of realizing that they're hateful sacks of shit. Posted by: HeatherRadish

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 17, 2013 10:22 AM (aDwsi)

253 Posted by: J. Derbyshire at December 17, 2013 02:17 PM (aDwsi)

I read your paper, and I never saw anything more benign and full of common survival sense than the advice given there.

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 17, 2013 10:22 AM (o3MSL)

254 Just overheard at work: "A meteorite hitting this building would be an incident, but it wouldn't be a problem."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 10:22 AM (PYAXX)

255 Racism is still around. You can see a little in these comments. No offense to anybody for calling out your offensiveness. But, put yourselves in the shoes of a black reader. I'm sure they see it a lot more clearly and more often than we whities do. And have to put up with it or call it out if they see fit and want to tangle.  There is a LITTLE truth to the white privilege argument, you have to admit.

Posted by: Sphynx at December 17, 2013 10:23 AM (OZmbA)

256 42 Posted by: Vizzy at December 17, 2013 01:28 PM (H0lcY) Guess Who? And, yes, I think you can still find it. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 01:29 PM (PYAXX) There is a similar party game where you make up cards with the names of famous people. A name is taped on the back of each person and they must figure out who they are by asking "yes"/"no" questions, similar to "Twenty Questions", of other players. "Am I white?" , "Am I a musician?"

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 17, 2013 10:23 AM (mck3/)

257 Funny thing, I actually got help up at gunpoint by two black dudes once ... in freaking Seattle. 3.5M white people and I get held up by 2 of the 15 black dudes in Seattle.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 17, 2013 10:23 AM (ZPrif)

258 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 02:22 PM (PYAXX)

What Federal Agency do you work for?

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 17, 2013 10:23 AM (o3MSL)

259 "A meteorite hitting this building would be an incident, but it wouldn't be a problem."

Sound like a variation of SMOD.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 10:23 AM (KXm42)

260 We both know you're only speculating about Watts without real knowledge. How do I know? Watts is at least half "Hispanic" many of whom consider themselves white. Try a blacker city.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 17, 2013 02:20 PM (36Rjy)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

There are a few towns in OK that are  90+% black.  And I would have no problem  walking around in those towns.  Seriously, I do love living in OK.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 10:24 AM (r/Zvc)

261 There is a LITTLE truth to the white privilege argument, you have to admit. Posted by: Sphynx at December 17, 2013 02:23 PM (OZmbA) Sorry, NO I doubt have to admit anything such nonsense.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 10:24 AM (0FSuD)

262 I suppose my targets are all racist since all the bulls-eyes are all black, sometimes I even put white eyes on em.

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at December 17, 2013 10:24 AM (vXqv3)

263 Fascinating how we (not the Moron Horde, but whitey in general) even care what these cretins screaming "racist!" in our faces think.  I am surrounded by libs and give not a hoot if they call me "h8r" or "racist" or "tea-bagger."  It's like being insulted by a retarded people. 

Posted by: kathysaysso at December 17, 2013 10:24 AM (6H6o8)

264 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 01:57 PM (VtjlW) Good fucking lord, it's almost like the people setting these experiments up know nothing about research ethics. Again, I reiterate: Nuremberg doctrine, over 50 years old, covered this already. FFS. Meanwhile the NIH is cracking down hard on people who filled out the wrong animal use form.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 17, 2013 10:25 AM (GaqMa)

265

First question I ask: is the guy bashing your head into the concrete to the point where you think you are going to die? 

 

After that, this whole thing about skin color seems fairly  trivial. 

Posted by: G. Zimmerman at December 17, 2013 10:25 AM (xCw24)

266 At NRO: 45 States Still HavenÂ’t Hit 10% of Enrollment Goals for Obamacare

Posted by: --- at December 17, 2013 10:26 AM (MMC8r)

267 Posted by: Sphynx at December 17, 2013 02:23 PM (OZmbA)

Another viewpoint (non-PC) is that stereotypes exist because there is a solid element of truth in them, otherwise, they would not be valid stereotypes.

They do not be rules, matey, they be only guidelines!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 17, 2013 10:26 AM (o3MSL)

268 Argh. Just saw a Facebook thing pop up from the Atlantic, “Why the rich don’t give to charity”. The answer the Atlantic did not provide: because so many of them are liberal and liberals give less than conservatives. (Wouldn’t be surprised if many of the non-charitable got rich and/or stay rich through cronyism, too.)

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 17, 2013 10:26 AM (QF8uk)

269 >>>No one can name a single neighborhood or area in ANY city in America where a black man would be in fear of his life if he were to walk down the sidewalk alone. Ahem. No, not accurate. Black on black crime is rampant in many cities. Detroit, LA, Chicago, Milwakee, you name it, even my little Upstate NY city. Let's modify the scenario, then. A white man is visiting a city. He accidentally wanders into a run-down neighborhood. There's tinfoil in the windows, a bunch of young black men are loitering about. A black man is visiting a small town. He gets lost on a back road and sees a bunch of widely spaced houses- many (most) of them look run-down and like they have had any technology upgrades since 1950. Both of these men are afraid for their lives. Is either of them wrong to be? I submit that the black man's fear is based on prejudice (even "racism") far more than the white man's.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 10:26 AM (PYAXX)

270 Those flashights on my AR and 40 cal are racists since they illuminate black in the black of night.

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at December 17, 2013 10:26 AM (vXqv3)

271


blackpeopleloveus.com/

 

still my fave site

Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at December 17, 2013 10:26 AM (3ZtZW)

272 No one can name a single neighborhood or area in ANY city in America where a black man would be in fear of his life if he were to walk down the sidewalk alone.
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Sorry. Should clarify: That's a majority white neighborhood vs. a majority black neighborhood.

Which is safer for a lone male of the minority race to enter alone? Even if you control for economic status, don't you suppose you know which is safer?

Why is that, if we are to have an honest discussion about race? Why is it not  most appalling that we allow such a situation to fester?

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 17, 2013 10:26 AM (VjL9S)

273 One of the reasons that I loathe the race and class warfare coming out of Washington is because I have a deep and abiding sympathy for young black men who are trying to live an honorable life.  Good men who work hard, who are responsible, trying their best to live a moral life and all they are getting from the race hustlers is more vitriol and from the white political class, more fear and avoidance.

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2013 10:27 AM (HjPtV)

274 There is a LITTLE truth to the white privilege argument, you have to admit. Tell us about the Jews, Kanye.

Posted by: White people r Pussies at December 17, 2013 10:27 AM (R6JT1)

275 But, put yourselves in the shoes of a black reader. I'm sure they see it a lot more clearly and more often than we whities do. And you know the ethnic make-up of the horde how? How can you assume that all the commenters are white? Am I "whitie?"

Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 10:27 AM (C2ugk)

276 Speaking of...

@gabrielmalor

Real helpful, John. RT @charliespiering: McCain says his colleagues who are voting against the budget deal "lack intellectual integrity"

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 17, 2013 10:27 AM (B0gqn)

277

>>>3.5M white people and I get held up by 2 of the 15 black dudes in Seattle.

 

REPRESENT!

Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at December 17, 2013 10:28 AM (3ZtZW)

278 There is a LITTLE truth to the white privilege argument, you have to admit.

Posted by: Sphynx at December 17, 2013 02:23 PM (OZmbA)

 

I wish I had some Oprah privilige, or Obama privilege or some Sharpton privilege or some etc, etc ,etc. 

 

privilege is a consequence of capitalism.   No longer becuase of your skin color and hasn't been  for more than a few decades.    

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2013 10:28 AM (m2CN7)

279 There is a LITTLE truth to the white privilege argument, you have to admit.>>

And who gave whites that "privilege"?

Look at the history of when Blacks stagnated in moving up the economic ladder. It oddly correlates to when "Whites" changed their status from competitor to victim.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 17, 2013 10:28 AM (TI3xG)

280 We lost more than a few workers on my crew when I was working in Newark. White, Black, Hispanic...didn't matter. You went out the wrong door at the wrong time of day and you were the next victim.

Posted by: garrett at December 17, 2013 10:28 AM (TXAd5)

281 My friend that goes to Yale has told me that Yale Campus Police are not allowed to mention race when describing a subject, even in cases of a pursuit!

Posted by: rory at December 17, 2013 10:29 AM (IL9gH)

282 Posted by: Hrothgar at December 17, 2013 02:23 PM (o3MSL) Actually, I'm pretty sure they were talking about our internal trouble-ticket system, and when to use a "problem ticket" vs an "incident ticket." But I really don't know that, because I really did only hear that one snippet.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 10:29 AM (PYAXX)

283 It's from "Hair" so it can't be racist, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6o8tvj8VFI Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2013 02:17 PM (olDqf) OK JJ, I had no idea a "swamp guinea" was a person of the black color persuasion. Go figure. learn something new every day in this joint. I'll have to remember to use it in a sentence this week. That's the only way I'll remember it.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 17, 2013 10:29 AM (LsF5M)

284 The reason whites are assigned "group racial guilt" is because it is (falsely) presumed that they are all the descendants of, or at a minimum financially benefitted from, the institution of slavery in the past. But I once saw an incredibly devastating statistic which completely reverses this presumption, and if it was well-known would obliterate all existing narratives about race in this country. The statistic is this: Most American descendants of slave-owners now self-identify (and are identified by society) as BLACK. A related statistic: The vast majority of "white" Americans (over 97%) are not descended from slave-owners. Here is the explanation for both stats: Plantation owners in the southern slave states were actually a very small percentage of the overall population. Even in antebellum days, many whites in the south were poor, and could not afford to keep slaves. Amongst the comparatively few plantation owners (and other smaller-setting slave owners), it was not considered wise to have a lot of sons, because then the family holdings would be broken up. So for that reason (and other sociological reasons), wealthy southerners tended to have fewer children than non-wealthy southerners. Now here's where the story gets unpleasant. It is true that, partly as a result of the need to minimize legitimate heirs, and partly due to racist slaves-are-my-possessions attitudes, rape (or coerced sexual relations) of female black slaves by white slave-owners (or their sons) was indeed pretty commonplace. The case of Jefferson and his slave lover is well-known, but that actually was a rarity, because in that case they were in a (as far as we can tell) adult consensual relationship. Most white/black male/female relationships back then were nonconsensual. The resulting children were not only deemed "bastards" and rejected by the father, but in most cases (due to genetic phenotypes) were born darker-skinned than the biological father and were thus perceived as "black." And since the mother was a slave, her "black" child was also deemed a slave. The end result of this practice for decades (and centuries in the earlier British and French eras) was an ever-increasing percentage of the black/slave population who were in fact the illegitimate half-white offspring of the slaveowners themselves. And because (as the academics will tell us) of the "internalized racism" of the slaves, the light-skinned "mulatto" slaves were considered more attractive and desirable even by the other blacks, and so those half-white slave-owner descendants themselves tended to have a lot of offspring. Which is why, to this day, most American "blacks" look paler than African "blacks," and why (according to genetic studies) 70+% of "African Americans" are at least partly white. Considering that Jim Crow laws prevented black/white mixing from 1865 to 1965, and that there actually haven't been a significant number of interracial marriages even after 1965, the vast majority of the "white blood" in American blacks come as a result of rapes committed during the antebellum era. Which would mean, getting back to the point, that the vast majority of those 70+% blacks who are part white are themselves descended from slave-owners. Whew! Now, on the other side of the equation: I forget the exact stats, but way over 50% of American "whites" are descended from immigrants that arrived in America after slavery was abolished here, coming during the great mass migration era of the late 19th and early 20th century. Thus, over half of Americans are descended from Italians Irish Jews Scandinavians Greeks Armenians Germans Russians ...etc. etc. who emigrated to the US in the 1865-1920 era. So those people could not even conceivably be descended from slave-owners, since they weren't even in this country when slavery existed here. The other 40-whatever percent (sorry, don't know the exact number) of "white" American who do indeed have ancestors that were here in the pre-1865 era are for the most part descended from: - Northerners who lived in non-slave states where slavery was illegal anyway. - Poor southerners who could not afford slaves. - Or people in southern or marginal areas who simply did not own slaves for whatever reason (banish the misconception that all southerners owned slaves; actually fairly few did). The end result is that a pretty small percentage of "white" Americans are actually physically descended from slave-owners. Yet compare that to the nearly 70% of self-indentified "blacks" who ARE descended from slave-owners (via rape). This completely reverses the underlying assumption we have as a nation about "group guilt" over slavery. If anything, pale-skinned blacks need to pay reparations to dark-skinned blacks. Why should Tony Morelli and Melvin Finklestein and Michael O'Shaughnessy feel guilty about slavery or its history in the US when their ancestors arrived in this country long after slavery was abolished?

Posted by: zombie at December 17, 2013 10:29 AM (+cx5n)

285

>> There is a LITTLE truth to the white privilege argument, you have to admit.

.

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.Why do you think I have to admit to white privilege?  Never experienced it, never got ahead because of it.

Posted by: Registered voter at December 17, 2013 10:29 AM (BGFPo)

286 I tend to agree with Sphynx a little bit on this.  My grandchildren are blue-eyed blonde fair-skinned Swedes. I've noticed they get a lot more positive attention of the ooh-ing and ahhh-ing variety in public places then do dark-skinned children in the same vicinity.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 10:29 AM (P6QsQ)

287 Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 17, 2013 02:27 PM (B0gqn)

Well, of all the Senators there, McCain certainly understands what the lack of intellect and integrity means!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 17, 2013 10:29 AM (o3MSL)

288 This is so damned tiring. The Left are the kid who shoves one kid into another, and then starts shouting 'Fight!, Fight!' The media pour fuel on the fire.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 17, 2013 10:29 AM (aDwsi)

289 I've walked around black neighborhoods without fear BTW.  Never had any problems that I can remember.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 10:29 AM (KXm42)

290

254 -

 

Of course.  And the dead bodies, the fires, the rubble aren't problems either, they are incidental results. 

 

The fact that the firetruck can't get through?  That's a problem.

 

Building about to fall over?  See, now that gets tricky.  Is that a threat or an opportunity? 

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2013 10:30 AM (xCw24)

291 Nancy Pelosy walks into a bar. 5/8" ASTM 516 Gr. 70 with cHARPY impact results.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at December 17, 2013 10:30 AM (z/WO2)

292 *stares at albino hands*

Dammit!

Posted by: Powder at December 17, 2013 10:30 AM (LDsJ6)

293 Good fucking lord, it's almost like the people setting these experiments up know nothing about research ethics. Again, I reiterate: Nuremberg doctrine, over 50 years old, covered this already. FFS. Meanwhile the NIH is cracking down hard on people who filled out the wrong animal use form. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 17, 2013 02:25 PM (GaqMa) Apparently, this has been going on all over the country for a few years now. I know I've seen reports of people going door to door and offering cold hard cash for cheek swabs as well though I believe that's for a different study. I am still waiting for an answer as to what would have happened had a cheek swab come up positive for prescription drugs. Would that have been reported to the police?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 10:30 AM (VtjlW)

294 Oh and overt racism is far better than the institutionalized infantilization disguised as racial favoritism. With overt racism, one knew who one's enemies were. Now, not so much. That over racism went underground in the sixties and is far more effective in destroying a race than slavery, the Klan, etc.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 17, 2013 10:30 AM (36Rjy)

295 Well, just one more wine before my nap, because I can pace myself!

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 17, 2013 10:31 AM (0FSuD)

296 I wouldn't walk around  fucking  Newark though.  Ain't stupid.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 10:32 AM (KXm42)

297 Meanwhile the NIH is cracking down hard on people who filled out the wrong animal use form. Posted by: tsrblke, Chicken - good. Weasel - bad.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 17, 2013 10:32 AM (qc7at)

298 There are a few towns in OK that are 90+% black. And I would have no problem walking around in those towns. Seriously, I do love living in OK.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 02:24 PM (r/Zvc)

 

I grew up in a Louisiana town in a neighborhood where I was the only white kid.   The big urban centers is where you see the schism. 

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2013 10:32 AM (m2CN7)

299 275 But, put yourselves in the shoes of a black reader. I'm sure they see it a lot more clearly and more often than we whities do.

And you know the ethnic make-up of the horde how?
How can you assume that all the commenters are white? Am I "whitie?"

Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 02:27 PM (C2ugk)


Well, I looked, and I AM a whitey.  Penis size and all.  All I said was put yourselves (you and I whities that is, I know some morons are black) in the shoes of 1 (one, exactly 1 for a forinstance) black reader.  I know you're ready to pounce for any reason because it's entertaining to you, so go ahead, continue, and have fun..

Posted by: Sphynx at December 17, 2013 10:32 AM (OZmbA)

300  One of the reasons that I loathe the race and class warfare coming out of Washington is because I have a deep and abiding sympathy for young black men who are trying to live an honorable life. Good men who work hard, who are responsible, trying their best to live a moral life and all they are getting from the race hustlers is more vitriol and from the white political class, more fear and avoidance.

Posted by: mrp at December 17, 2013 02:27 PM (HjPtV)

 

 

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THIS!  1000 TIMES THIS!

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 10:32 AM (r/Zvc)

301 I've noticed they get a lot more positive attention of the ooh-ing and ahhh-ing variety in public places then do dark-skinned children in the same vicinity. Odd. I have always thought that white babies were the creepiest of all the babies.

Posted by: garrett at December 17, 2013 10:33 AM (TXAd5)

302 Hey all you white people: Remember how your White Privilege meant you got to blow off those finals in college and high school?

Hey all you white people: Remember how your White Privilege means you can show up to work whenever you feel like it?

Hey all you white people: Remember how your White Privilege means you can hump on whoever you want 'cause you don't have to get married if you make a baby?

I was walking down the street the other day and this guy just up and handed me $1000. Why? White Privilege, baby.
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This post has been pre-denounced as utterly racist.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 17, 2013 10:34 AM (VjL9S)

303 Odd. I have always thought that white babies were the creepiest of all the babies. No arguments there.

Posted by: The People of Midwich at December 17, 2013 10:34 AM (QF8uk)

304 New post up thank God.


Let's not do this again ace.


Thanks.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 10:35 AM (KXm42)

305 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 17, 2013 02:30 PM (VtjlW) You go knocking on doors sans police and you're just doing research. I may not agree with it for a shit ton of reasons, but it doesn't violate any regulations or guidance behind those regulations. And thus I'll be out voted by the rest of the committee every time. This however violates time honored principles of research ethics many of which are ensconced in the regulations directly.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 17, 2013 10:35 AM (GaqMa)

306

301 -

 

I hate babies.  When I'm in public  and somebody's kid starts crying and whining, I tell them to grow up. 

Posted by: BurtTC at December 17, 2013 10:35 AM (xCw24)

307

Racism is still around. You can see a little in these comments. No offense to anybody for calling out your offensiveness.

 

That's mighty white of you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 17, 2013 10:36 AM (zF6Iw)

308 I wish I had some Oprah privilige, or Obama privilege or someSharpton privilege or some etc, etc,etc. Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2013 02:28 PM (m2CN7) Well, shit, so do I and most other black people.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 17, 2013 10:37 AM (36Rjy)

309 3.5M white people and I get held up by 2 of the 15 black dudes in Seattle.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 17, 2013 02:23 PM (ZPrif)


Central District is so bad that Domino's quit delivering until forced to resume by a judge.

Posted by: kathysaysso at December 17, 2013 10:37 AM (6H6o8)

310 I grew up in a Louisiana town in a neighborhood where I was the only white kid. The big urban centers is where you seethe schism.

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2013 02:32 PM (m2CN7)

 

 

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I will make some exceptions for OK.  There are limited places in OKC where I would be afraid to walk even during daylight hours, let alone at night.  However, that area is small compared to the rest of the metro.

 

Also, there's areas infested with meth and crack addicts, but I don't count them because  I would probably have the same chance of being accosted by a white, hispanic, asian, or black person.  THOSE are the areas I avoid.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2013 10:38 AM (r/Zvc)

311 Why is this place so obsessed with race?

Posted by: No to Hate at December 17, 2013 10:38 AM (X/vHw)

312 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 02:26 PM (PYAXX) Not gonna lie, but having been in both of those scenarios, I'm not sure the latter guy shouldn't be afraid. Granted, I had wandered into known meth territory, when I got back to something resembling "town" the purveyor of the general store went "WTF were you doing there?!" Again though, deep southern MO may be a odd case. That and I'm lilly white, so my fear wasn't racially based. It was probability based.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 17, 2013 10:38 AM (GaqMa)

313 I forget the exact stats, but way over 50% of American "whites" are descended from immigrants that arrived in America after slavery was abolished here, coming during the great mass migration era of the late 19th and early 20th century. The strains of my family are primarily European immigrants that came in no later than the 1850s. It's unlikely that any of them breezed into the country and started up cotton plantations.

Posted by: --- at December 17, 2013 10:39 AM (MMC8r)

314 Whoops, I meant 'no EARLIER than the 1850s.'

Posted by: --- at December 17, 2013 10:39 AM (MMC8r)

315 On "White Privilege" No, it doesn't exist. Not at all. What *does* exist (do? anyway) is (are) socio-economic and family structure factors which help, at a very young age, determine how "easy" or "hard" your life will be. People born rich will face fewer "problems" than people born poor. People born into a family with a mom and a dad who are married to each other are less likely to have children out of wedlock themselves. People whose parents read to them and talk to them will tend to have better vocabularies and do better in school. Only one of those is an economic factor, and as your income goes up, the difference between you and the next group "below" you is less and less. None of them are racial factors. Now, here's the thing. Even these are only "tendencies." Exceptions are, by definition, exceptional- but they do occur. Further, they can all be overcome. That is- someone from a poor family where dad was never around and mom never had time to read to the kids can STILL be every bit as successful as someone from a more "privileged" situation- and then give that "privilege" to their own children.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 10:40 AM (PYAXX)

316 167 A N. Dakota court ruled that a man who is married to another man, can freely marry a woman in N. Dakota because the state does not recognize same sex marriage. Posted by: The Political Hat at December 17, 2013 01:58 PM (XvHmy) My brain hurts.

Posted by: rickl at December 17, 2013 10:40 AM (zoehZ)

317 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 02:40 PM (PYAXX) I think there's a reasonable argument that people who are approaching poverty may not have as much time to read to and talk with their kids than say...my parents who had at least weekends off for most of my life and were home by 6PM. So economics is a factor there, but not destiny.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 17, 2013 10:42 AM (GaqMa)

318 Hahaha! I work 911 for police. Race is the first thing we ask about the subject! "Is he white?" is enough to get the caller to clarify if the subject isn't. heh.

Posted by: americashat at December 17, 2013 10:42 AM (jyHJu)

319 255 Racism is still around. You can see a little in these comments. No offense to anybody for calling out your offensiveness. But, put yourselves in the shoes of a black reader. I'm sure they see it a lot more clearly and more often than we whities do. And have to put up with it or call it out if they see fit and want to tangle. There is a LITTLE truth to the white privilege argument, you have to admit.

Posted by: Sphynx at December 17, 2013 02:23 PM (OZmbA)

How in the fuck would you know?

Posted by: baldilocks at December 17, 2013 10:43 AM (36Rjy)

320 Well, shit, so do I and most other black people.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 17, 2013 02:37 PM (36Rjy)

 

That's my point baldi.   Privilege today is based  on financial  or fame status and not skin color.    

Posted by: polynikes at December 17, 2013 10:43 AM (m2CN7)

321 146 Study: White People Are Pretty Dumb

Frankly, I'd say that white people are fine. It's the too-PC-by-half guilt-tripped whites - Barky's voting bloc - that are pretty dumb.

Now, here's an awful thing. Prior to Barky, my thoughts didn't particularly go in any singular direction when I saw a black man or woman. Now, when I see a black man or woman - after nearly eight years of Obama - my thought is instantly, "hmm. An O-bot. I wonder just how much he / she hates me." Because Obama has made blatant black racism "cool."

And if you don't believe me, ask the nearest victim of the knockout game. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

This^ Yeah, I think the same way nowadays. And I was raised to be about as race-neutral as anyone can be. It's a damn shame.

Posted by: backhoe at December 17, 2013 10:44 AM (ULH4o)

322 The case last night in NJ where the young husband was pulled from his car and shot defending his wife during a carjacking is a good case in point.  The wife was unharmed, she gave a full description of the two perps.

But all the media reported was two males, 20s, jeans, dark jackets, Yankees hats.  Good luck finding someone like that in north Jersey, eh?

Of course, people are becoming aware that when the race of suspects are not mentioned, it doesn't mean they are White Hispanics.

Posted by: Adjoran at December 17, 2013 10:48 AM (473jB)

323 So economics is a factor there, but not destiny. Some, but not much. And it doesn't take a lot of time to read your kid into success. I've seen some studies that say something like an hour a week (that's less than 10 minutes a day). Unless you're at work every hour your child is awake (which, I guess, is possible), you've got time to read to your kid. But I'll go one further- each one being "negative" correlates to the others being more likely to be negative. Being poor makes it less likely that mom and dad will have time to read to the kids. There's also a high correlation between poverty and single-parent homes. It's real easy to start of in life with 3 strikes against you from the outset. That said- my original point remains: none of them are racial factors.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 10:49 AM (PYAXX)

324 Um, it appears to me that 43% of the white folks are color-blinded....I am another person that doesn't even think of what color someone's skin is when I hear of some type of crime or something....granted I do wonder about their religion or their political ideology or their nationality....but color of their skin? No. As you can see as a conservative tea party republican, I am NOT racist, however, I have some religious bigotry (of which I believe it's well founded) and also some strong national pride (which should also be well founded), and am very much prejudiced against ignorance where it makes it's ugly head visible in politics. Now, it is obvious that the difference between the 79% and 43% is a measure of some type of racial bigotry. The question is who is that 36%? I would imagine it's the Christ Matthews' of the world, the liberal elite who still obviously see the world in black and white.

Posted by: doug at December 17, 2013 10:49 AM (uJ8q7)

325 Yes, Sphynx, infantilization annoys the shit out of me. Why? Because it's an insidious form of slavery--one in which the enslaved believe that the terms of their servitude are owed to them.

I don't have to put myself in the "shoes of a black reader." I am one. We black human beings are not magical Negroes and see no more clearly than anyone else, especially where self-interest is concerned.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 17, 2013 10:49 AM (36Rjy)

326 The "White Privilege" (someday I'll learn to spell "privilege without spell check) thing annoys me because the entire purpose of the theory is to ascribe blame on whites no matter what.

If you're white, you're to blame for any and all problems facing the black community.  Even if you've never taken a single racist action by word, thought or deed in your life, you are to blame because "white privilege".

The impression I get is that the "legacy of slavery" argument was getting stale, so they invented the "white privilege" smear to replace it. 

Never, ever can it be suggested that some of the problems facing the black community are due to cultural issues within black society.  Never can the cure be to stop focusing on and creating racial divisions.

The PC / race hustlers do anything to prevent a color-blind society.  Without the race card, they have no reason to exist.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 17, 2013 10:50 AM (SY2Kh)

327 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 02:49 PM (PYAXX) Total agreement is no fun, so I had to pick on something

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 17, 2013 10:51 AM (GaqMa)

328 Well, I looked, and I AM a whitey. Penis size and all. All I said was put yourselves (you and I whities that is, I know some morons are black) in the shoes of 1 (one, exactly 1 for a forinstance) black reader. I know you're ready to pounce for any reason because it's entertaining to you, so go ahead, continue, and have fun... No pouncing.no need to continue. The only thing entertaining is your continued assumption that you are preaching to a bunch of whities (you even just called me white - again). How do you know that I 'm not currently in the shoes of a black ma (disregard for a moment that this is the HQ and of by law, I'm not wearing pants)

Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 10:52 AM (C2ugk)

329 "Many white people are so scared of being seen as racist that they're not willing to talk about simple facts...'

Hmmm.... wonder if that could ever affect the outcome of an election?

Posted by: Whadever at December 17, 2013 10:54 AM (Xv7f/)

330
I really hate the racial identity politics or identity politics of any kind in fact.

But I am not going to see that end by the end of my life, so it will continue to be a discussion for all of us for a long time.

That being said, the biggest racist organizations that I can see in this country are in the abortion industry.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 17, 2013 10:54 AM (MaP11)

331 *correcting my own typo: How do you know that I 'm not currently in the shoes of a black man??

Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 10:55 AM (C2ugk)

332 Well, I looked, and I AM a whitey. Penis size and all. All I said was put yourselves (you and I whities that is, I know some morons are black) in the shoes of 1 (one, exactly 1 for a forinstance) black reader. I know you're ready to pounce for any reason because it's entertaining to you, so go ahead, continue, and have fun..

Posted by: Sphynx at December 17, 2013 02:32 PM (OZmbA)

Spot your implicit racism in that post.

Take your time.  This is a graded exercise.

For extra credit, define the term, "irony."

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 17, 2013 10:58 AM (sbV1u)

333 For extra credit, define the term, "irony." Oh! I know this one! "Kind of like iron."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Just in for a minute at December 17, 2013 10:59 AM (PYAXX)

334 And I thought, "What if I compiled similar photos, but of white people being horrified by the behavior of black people, and named it 'White People Hate It?'" It depends. If you do it "ironically," you'll get an NEA grant.

Posted by: rfichoke at December 17, 2013 11:00 AM (ZPypl)

335 He said, "She would have never told me that if I wasn't black. Like she thinks I can't afford that because I'm black or something."

If that had been me I would have thanked her for the heads up and waited till I got off the plane, but my friend thought he had just been insulted because of his race.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 01:37 PM (P6QsQ)

A sign of his indoctrination. Help the kid out if you can.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 17, 2013 11:00 AM (36Rjy)

336 Spot your implicit racism in that post I don't think it's worth it, Sean. He doesn't get it. And won't because he's more enlightened than us.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 11:07 AM (C2ugk)

337 Posted by: zombie at December 17, 2013 02:29 PM (+cx5n)

That bit of history was good and was an example of why black Americans consider all persons with acknowledged black ancestry to be black. But this question has some faulty implicit assumptions:

"Why should Tony Morelli and Melvin Finklestein and Michael O'Shaughnessy feel guilty about slavery or its history in the US when their ancestors arrived in this country long after slavery was abolished?

Posted by: zombie at December 17, 2013 02:29 PM (+cx5n)"

No one should feel guilty about things that they did not carry out personally, whether their ancestors did or not.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 17, 2013 11:08 AM (36Rjy)

338 Hey Baldi my Watts homie!!!

Posted by: DAve at December 17, 2013 11:10 AM (b7yum)

339
Let's not do this again ace.


Thanks.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 02:35 PM (KXm42)

Fifty years of silence is what got us where we are now.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 17, 2013 11:11 AM (36Rjy)

340


I'm no racist.  I hate everybody. 

Posted by: Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, Warrior Poet at December 17, 2013 11:15 AM (Xv7f/)

341 339 Let's not do this again ace. Thanks. Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2013 02:35 PM (KXm42) Isn't this the "national conversation about race" we were supposed to have?

Posted by: rickl at December 17, 2013 11:19 AM (zoehZ)

342 Fifty years of silence is what got us where we are now. Thank you. I can't think of one instance where avoiding an uncomfortable conversation or situation is the right solution. And why it's uncomfortable is beyond me. Aren't we all adults here? Well, most of us...

Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 11:19 AM (C2ugk)

343 Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 01:37 PM (P6QsQ)A sign of his indoctrination. Help the kid out if you can.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 17, 2013 03:00 PM (36Rjy)


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I will, baldilocks.


Merry Christmas to you, my sister.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 17, 2013 11:21 AM (P6QsQ)

344 No one should feel guilty about things that they did not carry out personally, whether their ancestors did or not. Posted by: baldilocks Of course you and I know that ought to be the case; we as a society don't, for example, throw a man's son in jail for crimes the man himself committed. To even consider doing so is absurd. However, my point was that much of the "group guilt" and "white privilege" which the far-left assigns to "white people" as a whole is based on the faulty assumption that American whites are the descendants of slave-owners. Yes, it shouldn't even matter, because no one can be responsible for actions taken by an ancestor before one was even born; but my comment addresses race-baiters on their own territory and on the terms they set up: Even if we as a society embrace the morally repugnant notion of "blood guilt," of blaming entire races for the actions of their ancestors -- even in that scenario, American whites would still not assume blame for slavery, because the vast majority of American whites are not descended from slave-owners. Whereas possibly over over of people now classified as "black" are likely descended from slave-owners. Through no fault of their own, needless to say. Yes, we should reject the notion of "group guilt" entirely, but it's useful to point out that the notion fails even under its own set of rules.

Posted by: zombie at December 17, 2013 11:25 AM (+cx5n)

345 Whereas possibly over over of people = Whereas possibly over HALF of people

Posted by: zombie at December 17, 2013 11:26 AM (+cx5n)

346 For extra credit, define the term, "irony."

It's like silvery, only rust colored.

Posted by: Karl Marx at December 17, 2013 11:26 AM (evdj2)

347 To go further with this, I would claim that anti-white racism is a far bigger problem than anti-black racism. Anti-white racism is preached with impunity in our colleges (they refer to it as "white privilege"), without so much as definition of what it is, or a theory as to why it exists, as an example. It is practiced widely within the black community (as evidenced by the 2012 Presidential election), and everybody is afraid to point it out and call it for what it is. It is also widely practiced by Liberals, of course, most of whom are white, themselves. They actually pat themselves for how virtuous they are for proclaiming how racist they, themselves, are. We would not have ObamaCare if not for anti-white racism, and the massive unemployment, lawlessness at the highest levels of govt, and the general tyranny of the Socialist agenda. No candidate, R or D, could have said "you didn't build that", and still come close to being elected without it. Hell, Obama couldn't have been elected in the first place with out it. Both McCain and Romney were disarmed by its widespread acceptance in popular culture.

Posted by: Optimizer at December 17, 2013 11:29 AM (Mxt9o)

348 I wonder if they had asked about race in the first question or so if the study would have concluded that White people are very racist indeed. I am becoming jaded about racism. I was niave and thought to goal was to treat everyone the same. But I was wrong. And I resent that. It makes me question the whole point of not being racist. If it is to give some people preference, just a different group, then why are we so up in arms about preferences in the first place? Privilege according to race seems not to be wrong or unfair in the public mind. So why not favor our own race over others? Okay, well I would probably not asked about race, either. And I'm not entirely sure my motives would be color blindness, but rather the appearance of being racist and even admitting that I noticed taboo such things....

Posted by: petunia at December 17, 2013 11:35 AM (DAcBA)

349 But isn't white privilege also considered to be just the idea that "whites have it better" by simple fact of being in the majority?  I've seen academics discuss it in terms of "seeing people of your own race in ads" and "being able to purchase bandages in your skin tone."

Posted by: Filly at December 17, 2013 11:36 AM (xJhbp)

350 182 Reminda me of when I was in New Orleans. A buddy and I are walking Bourbon St. and end up in the gay district.
He didn't realize it. We're getting drinks in some bar, twenty minutes in, I'm chatting with a local, Jeremy comes up to me wide-eyed - "this is a fucking gay bar!"
"Yeah, man. They all are at this end of the block."
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Bourbon and Dumaine, right?  Cafe Lafitte in Exile?

I found out when I was in college it had been a gay bar for maybe decades.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 17, 2013 11:46 AM (BDU/a)

351 Upworthy used to ask the stupidest "poll" type questions upon visiting the website. "Do you think the world should be a better place?" - asinine like that. I answered in whatever way would be least pleasing to them.

Posted by: fb at December 17, 2013 11:49 AM (JVEmw)

352

For some it is all about race.  Contrary to Freud, a cigar cannot just be a cigar.

 

Frequently there is no upside to acknowledging a the race of a black person.  I find myself avoiding blacks in general because of those who have created a no win situation for me.  I am not the racist, the dominant blacks who promulgate their tribalism (and those non-blacks with white liberal guilt) are the racists.  Because they have creatied the hostile mixed race environment.  

 

Their victimhood, their ability to trump my innocence by taking offence, means that any relationship to them is fraught with bad faith.   Why even bother?   

 

I have friends who are black, but knowing that they will not cause a problem for me lets me approach them as individuals, just like if I were to meet Chique d Afrique or Baldilocks.  I can relate to them based upon the content of their character, because they do not demand some reaction from me based upon the difference in the color of our skin.   

Posted by: Minuteman at December 17, 2013 11:53 AM (a5Mel)

353 @284 [zombie] That was long, but pretty interesting. I can offer my own insights from my own genealogical exploits. I'll start with my former sister-in-law, who is black. We looked into her roots many years ago, and that's when I learned that it's commonplace for blacks to have white roots. There was one story of an ancestor who was told, "You always wanted to know who your father was, well there he is:" [in the casket before her; her mother's long-time employer]. I also learned that blacks often have aboriginal roots, too [she did]. I really doubt your statistic. I think it would have to be closer to 95% of blacks in the US have white ancestry (altough I couldn't say how many were from non-consensual relations with slave owners). We had a black woman were I used to work who was more Irish than a lot of the white folks there - she had an Irish gt-grandpa, while they were Polish and Italian!! Then there's my mother, descendant of Irish and Germans who immigrated to the North around 1850. No slave owners there, and they were a generation before the Poles and Italians. If you go way, way back on my father's side, you find something unexpected. It's surprising to find a slave owner there, because it was in Colonial NY. I don't think slavery was ever very common in NY, but it wasn't actually outlawed until 1808. So one or two of the thousands of my ancestors who lived back then owned a slave. It was just one, and I don't know if I could say for sure if it was a black slave (if I'm not mistaken, there were white slaves also, although they were much less common). To reiterate zombies point, BRIEFLY, the overwhelming majority of whites in the US have little or no slave-owning ancestry, while the overwhelming majority of blacks DO!!

Posted by: Optimizer at December 17, 2013 11:54 AM (Mxt9o)

354 I think race relations started downhill when race professionals (both white and black) took over the narrative. This was right at 50 years ago. The rest of us just stood back and thought 'What a bunch of rude bastards', and went on with building America. Oh damn, was that racist?

Posted by: EROWMER at December 17, 2013 12:06 PM (OONaw)

355 *Bourbon and Dumaine, right? Cafe Lafitte in Exile? I couldn't tell you the name of the bar, but Dumaine sounds right. My understanding was that end of Bourbon was "The District" Same night, a little later, we're standing on the sidewalk talking to a large field hockey coach and I told Jeremy it was his turn to buy the drinks. "I'm not going in THAT place to get 'em!" He had no idea the next bar he walked into was the same thing. Even better, he comes back with drinks for us and the gal we're talking with, and her wasted girlfriend walks up yelling, wanting to fight me for trying to fcuk her girl. She looked like a slightly less attractive Andrew Zimmern wearing a crewcut wig, and I'm laughing because her girlfriend is threatening me while my buddy is cussing "THAT was a fucking gay bar too!" Good times. Good times.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 17, 2013 12:10 PM (C2ugk)

356 Fuck you Sphynx.  You are the racist.  Racist.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 17, 2013 12:22 PM (a5Mel)

357

Baldilocks is right about Watts.  One of my best buddies, a Chicano or Latino or Hispanic, is from close to that area.  We went by the house he grew up in and pointed out the empty lots that were created in the riots. 

Along with being Hispanic or Latino or Chicano he is also a Civil War Reinactor.  Confederate, of course. 

Posted by: Minuteman at December 17, 2013 12:30 PM (a5Mel)

358 355 *Bourbon and Dumaine, right? Cafe Lafitte in Exile?

I couldn't tell you the name of the bar, but Dumaine sounds right. My understanding was that end of Bourbon was "The District". . .
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When I was a kid, early Sixties this was, I went to grammar school two blocks away from there.  One weekend afternoon, caught by a rainstorm, my mother and I took refuge just inside Cafe Lafitte, and found my school principal having a drink with a male friend at the bar.  The principal, you see, was married, and his son was in my class at school.

Years later my mother told me that the place was a gay hangout even then.  Now that doesn't prove that my principal was gay, but . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 17, 2013 01:13 PM (BDU/a)

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