May 12, 2013

Sunday Morning Book Thread 05-12-2013: Steampunk Barbecue Edition [OregonMuse]
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This was put together by some foundry workers in Russia. I wouldn't mind having it in my backyard, though.

Good morning morons and moronettes and welcome to the the award-winning AoSHQ's Sunday Morning Book Thread.


The AoSHQ Amazon Store

I've been very neglectful of this because I couldn't be bothered to figure out how to make it work. If you click ace's Amazon Store link in the upper right corner of the main page (the link that says The AoSHQ Amazon Store), it will take you to an Amazon page emblazoned with the AoSHQ logo, and there's some books listed that you can buy. But I don't know how to add new books to the list. If you know the title of your book, you can enter it in the search bar in the upper right corner of and it will call up that book in the AoSHQ store. But if you're browsing around Amazon, it's easy to exit the AoSHQ store, and you won't be notified when you do. So when you finally come upon a book you want to buy, you need to go back to the beginning and enter the title in AoSHQ store seach bar.

Or, if you prefer, you can do it with a little bit of link-fu:

The beginning of any link to any item in the AoSHQ store is going to look like this:

http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/

Now, a typical Amazon book link is big and long. Here's an example:

http://www.amazon.com/Puritan-Gift-The-ebook/dp/B006OO7OZU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368244437&sr=8-1&keywords=the+puritans+gift

In this long link, there's something that looks like an identifying number that occurs right after the '/dp/' part, which is 'B006OO7OZU'. Simply add this identifier to the the 'base' address of the AoSHQ store, and you'll get this:

http://astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B006OO7OZU

If you click on that link, you'll see the book inside the AoSHQ store, and if you buy it, Amazon will contribute a few pennies to ace to help defray his not inconsiderable Valu-Rite expenses.

I'm kicking myself for not doing this earlier. Sorry, ace. From now on, I'm going to try to make all my book links go through the ace store.

Let's start on these new links with Celia 'Sgt. Mom' Hayes' brand new book Air Force Daze which is so new, it isn't even up on her web page, yet. Amazon describes it as

Being a True Account of 20 Years in the Big Blue Machine: With Reminiscences, Rants, Memos and Accounts of Divers Amusing Incidents!

Collected from the archives of the milblog The Daily Brief (formerly Sgt. Stryker's Daily Brief) an assortment of informational briefs, memos, rants and reminiscences by Sgt. Mom

Celia also writes historical fiction, including To Truckee's Trail. This is a story about the The Stephens-Townsend-Murphy wagon train party, which

crossed the continent in 1844, blazing a trail through the wilderness from Ft. Hall in present-day Idaho, across the high desert and over the Sierra Nevada range to Sacramento; two thousand miles across unknown, trackless wilderness on a gamble that life at the end of the trail would be better. This is the story of their journey, every dusty mile and hard choice, and of an extraordinary group of ordinary Americans.

And if that weren't enough, there's her 'Adelsverein' trilogy about German settlers in Texas:

Adelsverein: The Gathering
Adelsverein: The Sowing
Adelsverein: The Harvesting

Or, you can get them in all in one volume:

Adelsverein: The Complete Trilogy

So buy Sgt. Mom's books and send a few farthings to ace. Midget porn doesn't buy itself, you know. We live in a Philip K. Dick world

This article from the American Thinker blog was mentioned in last week's thread, and also in the sidebar. PKD was a tormented soul and he lived a tormented life. Drug use, relationship difficulties (he was married 4 or 5 times), and mental illness plagued him most of his life.As a science-fiction writer he avoided the glorious, sweeping technological vistas of flying cars, jet-packs, and domed cities, but instead, offered up worlds where people are losers or a-holes and things don't work quite right. As such, his books very much resemble Dick's own internal turmoil.

And if you're in the mood for something really bizarre, go to the PKD wikipedia page and read the "Paranormal experiences" section.

I remember one of his stories where a guy is being placed into frozen stasis for a long interstellar journey, only, as I mentioned earlier, things don't work right and he doesn't get quite frozen all the way. So he's conscious, but that's about it. The main shipboard computer, who can communicate with him through his thoughts, cannot revive him. The ship wasn't fitted for normal, awake passengers. "There is no air or food in me" it tells him. They're too far out to go back, the malfunction in the stasis control mechanism is too complicated for the computer to fix, and so there's nothing they can do but go on. Well, this trip is going to take years, so the computer has to find a way to safeguard the guy's sanity. So it tries to give him images and dreams to keep his mind occupied, but the guy keeps figuring out that his experiences are a computer-generated simulacrum, and rejects them. So the computer has to keep coming up with different and more elaborate scenes, hoping that this time, it will be accepted. I forget how exactly it ends, but when the trip is over, the guy can't tell what's real and what's not.

Philip K. Dick Fun Fact #1: According to wikipedia, he and fellow science fiction author Ursula K. Le Guin both went to Berkeley High School in Berkeley, California, and were members of the same graduating class (1947). However, they were unknown to each other at the time. Must have been a big school.

Philip K. Dick Fun Fact #2: If he were alive today, he'd probably be very very rich. Every time a cool sci-fi movie comes out, it's from a Philip K Dick book.

I'm not linking any of PKD's books. There are way too many, and if I link one, I'd probably have to link them all. Besides, a surprising number of them are in the public domain, according to wikipedia:

As of July 17, 2010, eleven of Philip K. Dick's early works in the public domain in the United States are available in ebook form from Project Gutenberg. See Dick, Philip K., 1928–1982 at Project Gutenberg. As of April 4, 2012, Wikisource has one of Philip K. Dick's early works in the public domain in the United States available in ebook form which is not from Project Gutenberg

So there you go.


Mother's Day Book Recommendation

Moron Travis Metzger e-mails to recommend Foster Girl, A Memoir by Georgette Todd, who is actually Travis' fiancée.

He says

I would say that foster care was the second worst thing Georgette went through. The worst was the family life that led inexorably to foster care.

The memoir details

a family history of abandonment, alcoholism, drug use, abuse, incarcerations and a tragic death, all of which forces Georgette and her baby sister Jean-Marie into the foreign world of foster care. From there, Georgette has no choice but to raise herself and her sister through a series of institutional residencies and unloving foster homes.

Fortunately Georgette eventually landed with a foster mother who loved her as a mother should. But getting there was pretty horrific.

And unfortunately, only a hard copy of Georgette's memoir is available for sale now. The Kindle version should be available in a few weeks.


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Free Book Giveaway! Seriously You Guys!

No, seriously.

Long-time reader and occasional moron commenter Mastiff has recently self-published a collection of short stories about politics and political reform, titled The Best Congress Money Can Buy: Stories of Political Possibility. It's available for Kindle and paperback, and Amazon Prime members can borrow it for free.

He says that the topics of some of the stories are:

• What if gun ownership were made mandatory?
• What if you could use a crowdfunding site to fund government, instead of taxes?
• What if you could sue corrupt public officials and make millions?

I especially like that last one.

Mastiff also claims that the tone and style are like Heinlein's classroom scenes in Starship Troopers.

But most importantly, he tells me:

I've scheduled a giveaway for this Sunday, May 12th and Monday May 13th—the Kindle version will be absolutely free until midnight on Monday. All I ask is that you tell your friends and post honest reviews on Amazon.

So what are you morons waiting for? Get The Best Congress Money Can Buy: Stories of Political Possibility for free right now!


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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, rumors, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at aoshqbookthread@gmail.com.

So what have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as we all know, life is too short to read lousy books.

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1 That locomotive looks like Walt Disney meets Sergio Leone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 12, 2013 07:16 AM (+98Gb)

2 anyone know when the next "Remaining" kindle book might be out?

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 12, 2013 07:18 AM (5wHPS)

3 Just bought a pair of big ol' binocs through the AoS store for stargazing. If by "star" you mean "my neighbor's boobs."

Seriously, the astronomy threads are cool.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 12, 2013 07:22 AM (celt+)

4

Novels to avoid at all costs:

A Delicate Truth by John Le Carre, released last week

John Le Carre has gone mad with America hate since 9/11 and it has ruined his once formidable writing talent.  His latest novel is probably his worst, not an easy job considering such recent stinkers as Absolute Friends (2004) and A Most Wanted Man (200 .

Here is how Le Carre introduces and describes the novelÂ’s arch-villain:

“born-again benefactress of America’s Republican far right, friend of the Tea Party, scourge of Islam, homosexuals, abortion and, I believe, contraception”

Even The New York Times wrote:

“A Delicate Truth,” John Le Carré’s new thriller, is anything but delicate: it’s ponderous, heavy-handed and obvious — everything that his wonderful early Smiley novels which traded in moral ambiguity and psychological nuance, were not.”

“preachyÂ…  so hobbled by ideological fervor — a detestation for the way the United States and Britain have waged the war on terror — that it rapidly devolves into a didactic and ungainly pitting of good against evil with an utterly predictable story line.”

Pro tip for Le Carre:  you know you have a problem when The New York Times calls you an unhinged moonbat.

Posted by: cool breeze at May 12, 2013 07:22 AM (A+/8k)

5 Sorry!  Damn, I wish AOSHQ had a preview function... or an edit function... or even a reasonably working cut and paste.

Posted by: cool breeze at May 12, 2013 07:25 AM (A+/8k)

6 I'm getting a vasectomy on Friday. They told me to bring music to listen to on headphones and to get three days' bed rest. Being one of those "embrace the suck" types, I'm going to download some Buzzcocks and read Dick.

I've got the three-volume Library of America edition. Pretty cool that Philip K. Dick has entered the canon.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 12, 2013 07:26 AM (celt+)

7 That choo-choo is pretty cool. Guy next to it reminds me of Yul Brynner in Westworld

Posted by: scampydog at May 12, 2013 07:28 AM (2SXc9)

8

Some of the most interesting things I read are the family histories of my ancestors.  A few nights ago, people were commenting about how long their families had been in America.  Two years ago, I had no idea how long my family had been here.  A cousin then passed on to me a line of ancestors that goes back to the Plantagenet kings and that had immigrated in the 1600Â’s.  I was skeptical and delved into it.

 

 

Among other things, I learned that tens of millions of Americans descend from the Plantagenets and that anyone with old New England ancestry has a 50% chance of being within 11th cousins of anyone else with that ancestry.  Whether you know it or not, many of you have that ancestry and IÂ’m pretty sure I am so related you – your cross to bear, not mine.

 

 

I also discovered there is an incredible amount of genealogical information freely available on the internet.  Free was important to me because, as a person who prefers to convert his liquid assets to liquids, I havenÂ’t subscribed to Ancestry.com. 

 

 

In any event, that initial line proved out and I have since collected the names of more than 400 direct ancestors who immigrated or were born here.  Many were found in family histories published in the 1800Â’s.  Those accounts, as well as town histories, some in hard copy and some on town websites, contain fascinating details of their lives and times.

 

 

The recently revamped FamilySearch.org website is a great resource for building a family tree and history.  In addition to millions of government records, they have digitalized the collections of some prominent genealogical libraries.  Archive.com has digitalized works available in many formats.  Heritagequestonline.com is accessible with your library card if your library subscribes.  I initially found Googlebooks to be useful, but I think theyÂ’ve since made it harder to find and/or download relevant books.

 

 

In hopes of  reaching and encouraging more morons to learn about their family histories, I plan to make similar posts in the next couplefew book threads.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at May 12, 2013 07:29 AM (h+OzC)

9 #5

Always paste to Notepad first, then copy and paste to AoSHQ. Plain text is safe, the plainer the safer.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 07:30 AM (kcfmt)

10 Check out coolbreeze's new book, My Turn In The Barrel

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 12, 2013 07:33 AM (QTHTd)

11 NashRambler,  thank you for those sites for geneology which are free.

I always think family trees are interesting ways to get children involved in history.  When I could say "Great Uncle Louie was in the Oklahoma Land Rush" or "Your grandad fought under Patton in North Africa" it made the events seem like they had a personal connection.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 12, 2013 07:34 AM (GoIUi)

12 Never could  get into P. K. Dick.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2013 07:34 AM (53z96)

13 The power of social cliques. I can believe Philip K. dick and Ursula K. LeGuin never knowing of each other in school. Considering how intensely anti-personnel level dull I've always found her works I can only imagine what kind of crowd LeGuin hung out with.

It can happen with people who have far more in common. At a computer game company I worked at in the 80s there were two PC programmers who had both been members of the same graduating class at Hollywood High, just a page apart in the year book. Yet neither had any recollection of meeting until nearly twenty years later while working for Cinemaware.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 07:34 AM (kcfmt)

14 #9

Thanks and once again my apologies to all.  I saved it as a plain text file (.txt) in Word.before copy pasting, but that obviously wasn't enough.

Posted by: cool breeze at May 12, 2013 07:35 AM (A+/8k)

15

Anyone else have this problem - I love my Kindle but I find myself buying so many books that I either will have to give up work or live another 50 years to read them all

 

 

I also have a huge collection of real books and I do buy from Book Depository every few months

 

 

Addiction to books is probably better than addiction to drugs.....

 

 

Posted by: aussie at May 12, 2013 07:35 AM (GIzXf)

16 I was just flipping through the channels quickly but I'm pretty sure I just heard Bob Scheiffer wish "all the fathers out there a happy father's day." Clueless!

Posted by: Captain's daughter at May 12, 2013 07:35 AM (d/ylB)

17 Almost forgot

Re-reading some old Mercedes Lackey  and Anne McCaffrey stuff.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2013 07:37 AM (53z96)

18 Posted by: cool breeze at May 12, 2013 11:25 AM  <<<<

Click the  < > in the comment bar to get a preview edit and take out the html stuff.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2013 07:37 AM (jKWYf)

19 Any idea how it is that PKD's work is in the public domain already and That Damn Mouse is still protected? Besides the army of lawyers?

Posted by: motionview at May 12, 2013 07:37 AM (6Tbb5)

20 Thanks to who ever it was that recommended With the Old Breed re: Marine invasion of Peleliu and Okinawa in WWII. Great book, especially with Memorial Day coming up. A very personal look at war from an enlisted man point of view. Intro by VDH.

Posted by: Matt in Maine at May 12, 2013 07:39 AM (BcUF8)

21

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 12, 2013 11:34 AM (GoIUi)

Thanks.   In addition to stimulating my own interest in history, I hope it makes history more personal for the younger generations.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at May 12, 2013 07:41 AM (h+OzC)

22 Sorta book related -- I wonder why the book Shibumi by Trevanian (aka Rodney Whitaker) has never been made into a movie? It has memorable eccentric characters, an evil corporation, spies, caving, exotic sex and exotic locales, etc. Instead, we get remakes of Footloose and The Great Gatsby.
 
Incidentally, I highly recommend the book. My copy is pretty worn as I have loaned it out a few times.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 12, 2013 07:42 AM (cHZB7)

23 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2013 11:37 AM (jKWYf)

Thanks, but I can't use this now to clean up the mess in my original post, right?

Posted by: cool breeze at May 12, 2013 07:42 AM (A+/8k)

24 23 Thanks, but I can't use this now to clean up the mess in my original post, right? ------ The gerbil, having posted, moves on.

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at May 12, 2013 07:44 AM (U82Km)

25 I did more reading - but didn't finish a book.

Start with Peter Crowther, "Forbidden Planets". It's an anthology; I read all of these except for the entries by Alastair Reynolds and Ian McDonald - because Reynolds is a smug lefty d-bag, and McDonald is just a shitty writer. Unfortunately I didn't save myself from Michael Moorcock's extremely smug and lefty entry into that series: http://books.google.com/books?id=4uLQ8KVRyDYC&pg=PT150

The theme of each story is a planet which is banned from travel, because if you land on it the planet will make your wishes come true; which is bad, for reasons to do with human nature.

I don't think that any of these stories was memorable. Moorcock especially reveals himself as a hack, worse than Frederick Pohl in his condescension against the Texan way of doing things.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 12, 2013 07:44 AM (QTHTd)

26 Currently reading A Flower Shop in Baghdad which is both funny and fascinating. I always knew Air Force types were smartasses, and this guy is a smartass with oak leaf cluster and combat device. Don't recall if it was a Moron recommendation or not, but I'll give you guys the credit anyway. Totally agree about family trees and history. I had a splendid great-uncle (that I got to talk to, even!) who was with Pershing chasing Pancho Villa on the Mexican border, and who went on to have further adventures in WWI. Most of those stories made use of the phrase "and I thought we were going to die" at some point, but I think he edited any real gore out of his accounts in deference to my youth and gender ;-)

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 12, 2013 07:46 AM (wfSF5)

27 Any idea how it is that PKD's work is in the public domain already and That Damn Mouse is still protected? Besides the army of lawyers?

Posted by: motionview at May 12, 2013 11:37 AM (6Tbb5)


Current law is 70 years after death of author.  Dick died in 1982 so his copyrighted stuff will not be available until  2052.  However, not all of his stuff is under copyright.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2013 07:47 AM (53z96)

28 If we are picking cool BBQ pits, I'll take this one please. http://tinyurl.com/3q5636u

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectal at May 12, 2013 07:47 AM (wR+pz)

29 Downloaded Heinlein's "Tunnel in the Sky" to my Kindle this week, speaking of old sci-fi. My wife has just picked up Bujold's Vorkosigan Saga. I didn't think she'd like the space opera stuff but she's eating it up. My son just started in to the Mary Russell/ Sherlock Holmes stories from my pile of books. I love recommending my favorites and having my family pick them up and enjoy them.

Posted by: alo89 at May 12, 2013 07:48 AM (IacRz)

30 I mentioned earlier last week that I saw the movie "John Dies At The End"; I leafed through a bit of it at the bookstore.

Again with the smug. Earlier on "David Wong" tunes into a radio station, with a right-wing talk show. The guy rants about illegal immigration with the analogy of rats swarming onto a ship in the water (whu?). We're supposed to laugh at those ignorant racists. In my case I just rolled my eyes.

Amazingly, the movie edits out this bullshit. It's saying something that even Hollywood thinks that the book is too offensively anti-American.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 12, 2013 07:49 AM (QTHTd)

31 Not a big fan of Dick.

Posted by: Ellen DeGeneres at May 12, 2013 07:49 AM (celt+)

32 A Delicate Truth by John Le Carre, released last week

John Le Carre has gone mad with America hate since 9/11 and
it has ruined his once formidable writing talent.





Le Carre was always a left douche. In his novels there was no difference between the west and commie countries.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 12, 2013 07:50 AM (cGHyT)

33 #19

PKD lead a very haphazard life and many of his works were done for very low payment to publishers who took complete ownership under their contracts. Quite common for genre writers back then. Robert Silverberg wrote an interesting article about the way genre publishing worked when he was a youngster breaking in and said that some very big names in mainstream novels wrote quickie SF, mystery, westerns, and such under pseudonyms to have a second income hidden hidden from their wives that allowed them to maintain mistresses in New York apartments. The universal excuse was a required meeting with the publisher of their primary works.

A lot of the rights have been clawed back by his heirs but this is little help to the author who died shortly before 'Blade Runner' would have its first theatrical run and change his reputation. This is a guy who'd been eating dogfood to survive just a short time earlier.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 07:50 AM (kcfmt)

34

The American President:  Here's another movie where the evil guy is the conservative, over the top portrayal by commie asshole Dreyfus.

 

And we wonder how they've managed    to   infiltrate  the culture. Well, I guess we don't really wonder anymore.

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 12, 2013 07:52 AM (5wHPS)

35 A book that I'm currently reading, that seems to err on the anti-Communist / counter-jihad side is: Christopher Moore, "A Dirty Job".

Reminds me of Terry Pratchett. It's almost Douglas Adams; but goes more for "amusing" than for "insanely hilarious". When it hits its stride, though, it becomes a real page-turner.

There are a couple of large black dogs, one called "Alvin" and the other "Muhammad". Fatâwa will be issued.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 12, 2013 07:55 AM (QTHTd)

36 #34  My daughter and I were discussing the dangers of big government and I brought up the EPA and their many rules.  I told her that the ePA,  regardless of party in power,  draws those who had a hatred for business.  She asked why that was.

I said,  "Remember that stupid Captain Planet cartoon show?  Remember how the eeeevil businessman was always a bald fat guy in a suit smoking a cigar?"

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 12, 2013 07:56 AM (GoIUi)

37 I noticed that Richard Laymon's - "Funhouse' is on sale for $1.99 through the Kindle store. Richard Laymon, for those who don't know of him, was a horror writer, who died a few years ago. Kind of a horror writer's horror writer by reputation who never really made it big in the U.S. Though he was huge in the UK. His prose style is masterful. Very clean, direct, and to the point. His story lines and plots tend to be Moron friendly as they seem to have been concocted by an overheated 15 yr old hunt and peck typing with one hand while furiously working a boner in the other. All the gals are beautiful and willing to have sex. All the guys are handsome and want to have sex. And Laymon loved boobies. He really really lo-o-o-oved boobies. The problem with some of his books for some people is that as an author he is completely un-PC. His books are always vividly gorey. And well, sometimes pretty rapey as he doesn't flinch from showing the darkside of human nature. Humans often vie with monsters as to who is worse. That said the author he reminds me of most is PG Wodehouse. Not because his books are humorous. but because Laymon was a great prose stylist whose primary concern was to entertain you and keep you entertained throughout his books. Whether that was by horrifying you, building tension, or just making you feel ooky. I haven't read "Funhouse" so I can't tell you how good it is, but it has a reputation for being one of his best early novels. I bought it. If Richard Laymon sounds like your kind of read, I would recommend the following as the best books of his that I've read: 1) The Traveling Vampire Show - his most famous A coming of age story collides with well...a traveling vampire show. 2) One Night in Lonesome October - probably my fave 3) One Rainy Night - great one to start with - starts with a bang and just keeps building, great climax 4) Island Give him a try.

Posted by: Staff at May 12, 2013 07:56 AM (G9qZk)

38 30 Aw shucks. I bought that book because of a book thread recommendation .

Posted by: Tuna at May 12, 2013 07:59 AM (M/TDA)

39 I love me some genealogy. I found out I am a descendant of a Sept 11 Domestic Terrorist John Doyle Lee. That's 9/11/1857. Sen Mike Lee and the Udalls are also some of his descendants. EVERYBODY has fascinating ancestors.

Posted by: Matt in Maine at May 12, 2013 07:59 AM (BcUF8)

40 I thought Amazon would track the browser from its referral point. On Instapundit's links, it goes to Amazon's main page, but he still gets referral credit. Is he using a different system?

Posted by: JohnJ at May 12, 2013 07:59 AM (Tt6ky)

41 I would love to find that "Dick" story you describe. Larry Niven of Lucifer's Hammer, Inferno and the Mote in God's Eye (that last which might just be the greatest sci-fi novel of all time, according to me) fame wrote a somewhat similar story called "Wait It Out" in 1971 about an astronaut stranded on Pluto by a lander accident who rather than dying when he removes his helmet upon realizing that the accident means he is a dead man, is flash frozen and awakes during each day (I think, I might have this backward) when the sun warms him enough for brain waves to travel, and can see events slowly occuring on Pluto around him, as well as a faint star that is Sol shining in the distance. Between reading Niven, Pournelle, Harlan Ellison, Kurt Vonnegut, Cordwainer Smith and Dick as a young man, no wonder my brain is so full of wacky ideas.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 12, 2013 08:01 AM (6gk77)

42 Sabrina, A Flower Shop in Baghdad was actually written by a Moron.....Mike the Moose, I think? I loved it. Not what I expected at all, but really good! Sgt Mom's books are great as well. I have all hers, and all of yours, too. I am probably the only Moron(ette) who has read the Sookie Stackhouse series, but in case I'm not, let me warn y'all the last book sucks big time. Horribly written, full of continuity errors, just all around awful.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 12, 2013 08:02 AM (zGbFP)

43

Philip Dick was an odd bird, and some things he wrote were interesting, but they were all permeated by his paranoia.  It's a bit of an acquired taste and not for everybody, and sometimes not really for anybody.  

 

And "movie"  adaptions:  "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"  is nothing like "Blade Runner" except  that there are "andies" in both books, and it is set in the future.

 

He was in tight straights (financially and health wise) at one point in his life and RAH sent him a letter and money, and periodically called him to check up on him.

 

For all Dick's Leftiness and other faults, he always said that Heinlein was a gentleman and real prince of a man, and genuinely appreciated his concern and kindness toward him.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at May 12, 2013 08:05 AM (I2uSp)

44 42 Sookie should have ended 3 or 4 books ago. I gave up the series 2 books ago. Waste of money. That's what happens when an author gets to full of herself. From the reviews I've read looks like she's pissed off quite a bit of her readers.

Posted by: Tuna at May 12, 2013 08:08 AM (M/TDA)

45 I am probably the only Moron(ette) who has read the Sookie Stackhouse series, but in case I'm not, let me warn y'all the last book sucks big time. Horribly written, full of continuity errors, just all around awful.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 12, 2013 12:02 PM (zGbFP)


I got the first one from the library and read the first few chapters. I thought it sucked. Took it back.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2013 08:08 AM (53z96)

46 #35

Moore, to my disappointment, is a lefty. Went full retard on the gun grabbing recently. A shame considering how good some of his stuff was. He's been going downhill. His previous novel, 'Foole' through in a anti-Bush joke despite taking place several centuries ago. His latest tries literally to be very arty and I ended up getting bored and wandering off to to other stuff.

Have you read any of his vampire books? They take place simultaneously with 'A Dirty Job' in San Francisco and one of the scenes is replicated from the main vampire character's perspective. (The first book was written ten years before the other two and he asks the reader to pretend it's more recent as all three take place in a relatively short span of time.)

It turns out he used very specific locations for those books. A few years ago I had a job that had me working out of the Ft. Mason Center for a couple weeks as part of a YouTube Live! event Google was doing to try to monetize the site's more famous contributors. Next door was a marina and across the street was a Safeway supermarket. In the vampire books several of the main characters are graveyard shift stockers in the Safeway. That exact Safeway. A passage even make reference to Ft. Mason center.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 08:08 AM (kcfmt)

47 For all Dick's Leftiness and other faults, he always said that Heinlein was a gentleman and real prince of a man, and genuinely appreciated his concern and kindness toward him. I remember reading about Theodore Sturgeon, in a bout of writers block, who was corresponding with Heinlein and Heinlein replied with a long list of ideas and discussion designed to prod him along, all freely given and free of charge, along with a check... http://madgeniusclub.com/2012/10/02/heinlein-sturgeon-and-writers-block/

Posted by: zsasz at May 12, 2013 08:09 AM (MMC8r)

48 Thanks, Tammy! I knew there was a Moron connection somewhere... but I frequently peruse the Book Thread pre-caffeine and, well, y'know. The memory thingy. Now, off to write more so I can amuse the Horde and other super-literary types!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 12, 2013 08:09 AM (wfSF5)

49

Apropos  of just about nothing, Orson Scott Card's  Ender's Game  has finally been made into a movie! 

 

I can't understand   why Hworeywierd resorts  to remakes and pre/sequels when there's   such a vast untapped resource  of new material within the Sci-Fi genre.  Maybe EG will be the start of a trend, if they don't screw it up too badly.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 12, 2013 08:09 AM (+z4pE)

50 Read Andy Weir's 'The Martian', a thriller about an astronaut's struggle to stay alive after getting accidentally stranded on Mars. Funny as Hell with a lot of science thrown in, just a gripping story up to the hair-raising finale. A great read.

Posted by: waelse1 at May 12, 2013 08:11 AM (CkeQ+)

51 OT:  Holy Crap, CBS actually having Sheryl Attkisson on the Sunday Show.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2013 08:12 AM (jKWYf)

52 #41

The PKD story in question was first published in Playboy in the late 70s or early 80s. Thereabouts. IIRC, it was an anniversary issue, 25th or 30th. And if I looked at Wiki first I would have been better off:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Hope_I_Shall_Arrive_Soon


Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 08:13 AM (kcfmt)

53 Tuna, I stuck through all of them and I am not sorry I did, per se, but man....her writing just got worse and worse. I don't mind that Sook ended up with who she did, but it was not set up well, and really... to have invested 5 books in a relationship that you then end in a page or two is just crappy writing, especially when the way you write it is totally out of character for both of the people. I'd heard she meant to end it after a few books, and that this was the endings she had intended. She really ought to have stuck to her original plan. Vic, this series was definitely NOT written with you in mind! I always thought of them as Young Adult and female YA, at that. All in all, I think the Twilight series was better and I never would have thought I'd say that. On the other hand you might like Ilona Andrews and her Kate Daniels and Edge series.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 12, 2013 08:17 AM (zGbFP)

54 That's 9/11/1857.

I recommend William Bagley, "Blood of the Prophets". I think I averaged at least one "holy shit" per page, no pun intended

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 12, 2013 08:17 AM (QTHTd)

55 #49

Mostly because they have a very low opinion of their audience and believe anything that requires them to process new concepts like an unfamiliar plot.

I've always been amazed by how 'Ender's Game' is worshiped. I never thought it was especially good. (I've always hated kid supergenius stories.) When it was first published as a novella it was a type of shaggy dog story every young writer wanted to do: video games turn to front for real war or training system for recruiters to identify talent, etc. There were easily a dozen published that year. Card got nominated for the big awards and lost. Then he turned the novella into a long boring novel and got nominated again, with some controversy.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 08:18 AM (kcfmt)

56 All in all, I think the Twilight series was better

Now there is something you don't want on your Amazon review page

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 12, 2013 08:19 AM (QTHTd)

57

@39 Posted by: Matt in Maine at May 12, 2013 11:59 AM (BcUF

 

I was going to wait until next week to mention it, but an incredible resource for finding your links to notable people is http://preview.tinyurl.com/bqpwh88


Posted by: Nash Rambler at May 12, 2013 08:19 AM (h+OzC)

58 Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 12, 2013 12:09 PM (wfSF5) Today is my birthday. I've decided to treat myself to a book or two, and your review of "The Martian" sounds like an idea. Having read and enjoyed "Firehearted", do you recommend any other books written by you? :-) I'm thinking about "The Long Way Home". I have discovered that Mother's Day >> 65th Birthday. Which is OK.

Posted by: jwb7605 ([i][u]Let it Burn[/u][/i])[/s][/b] at May 12, 2013 08:20 AM (Qxe/p)

59 Now, off to write more so I can amuse the Horde and other super-literary types! We really ought to have you locked away somewhere with everything you need to keep writing...caffeine, hookers, blow, whatever you require!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 12, 2013 08:20 AM (zGbFP)

60 Dick's "left" the way Orwell's "left". I can cope with leftism as long as it's up-front and the author's not snide about it.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 12, 2013 08:20 AM (QTHTd)

61 Happy birthday, jw!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 12, 2013 08:21 AM (zGbFP)

62 Damn, hit post too quick....Last Mage Guardian is my all time favorite of Ms Chase's books.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 12, 2013 08:21 AM (zGbFP)

63 Happy birthday!

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2013 08:22 AM (53z96)

64

"7 That choo-choo is pretty cool. Guy next to it reminds me of Yul Brynner in Westworld"

 

 

Westworld. Where nothing can go worng.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at May 12, 2013 08:22 AM (jz0+s)

65 - forgot to mention this: the Dick / Orwell link is in the American Thinker article (I'd read this when it came up in the sidebar).

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 12, 2013 08:22 AM (QTHTd)

66 I read the first of the Sookie Stackhouse books and never went back for more. It might have been better if I'd gotten there sooner and the genre wasn't so played out.

What also did a lot of damage was reading a bunch of Laurel Hamilton's stuff before getting fed up with her. In the first ten or so books the lead character is annoying pent up and the reader keeps wanting her to just have a one night stand to be done with it already and let the plot happen. (There was also an annoying inconsistency in how the character fails to use her powers to help a suffering friend even though she'd done something similar already for another person, demonstrating that she had the ability.)

Then Hamilton discovered her clitoris or something in real life. Sex was suddenly at the core of EVERYTHING with Anita Blake becoming the world's most boring fuck monster. There is almost a plot development but then the author remembers it's been hours since Anita screwed anything and the book becomes Penthouse forum for a few dozen pages, until you forget what the story was.

I like a good sex scene just fine. But not if it derails the story.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 08:27 AM (kcfmt)

67 You're right about Shibumi, they adapted his Eiger Sanction, with Clint Eastwood, but it does capture the 70s mood much better then Condor, then they would have had to film in many places, like a Bond film, from the preface in Japan, to the Middle East and ultimately France.

Posted by: cornelius, waiting for the Cobalt bomb at May 12, 2013 08:27 AM (Jsiw/)

68 Killer barbecue. I would stick a harley engine in it and drive it around the backyard.

Posted by: berserker at May 12, 2013 08:29 AM (FMbng)

69 If you like SF, Baen Books has a fantastic free library (http://www.baenebooks.com/c-1-free-library.aspx). And a lot of stuff that's not available in the free library (which is totally DRM-free, by the way) can be found in their free CDs, which can be downloaded from The Fifth Imperium (http://ebooks.thefifthimperium.com/).

Highly recommended.

Posted by: RoadRunner at May 12, 2013 08:30 AM (YalbS)

70 Speaking of X rated books - anyone ever read the Robert E. Vardeman / Victor Milan series, "War of Powers"? (googles) Seems it hasn't been noted in minx.cc yet. Anyway.

The sex scenes in there do, in fact, help the plot along and the series does, in fact, have a plot - if a rather episodic / epic plot.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 12, 2013 08:32 AM (QTHTd)

71 And if that weren't enough, there's her 'Adelsverein' trilogy about German settlers in Texas: According to The Worst Hard Time the German immigrants in Texas suffered greatly during the dust bowl years.

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 12, 2013 08:39 AM (tOkJB)

72 Dick was nuts but also very perceptive and knew a bullshitter when he met one. He wrote a story in 1954, The Turning Wheel, that suggested what the world would be like if L. Ron Hubbard's Dianetics became a world-conquering religion. (This was long before it actually became Scientology after Hubbard sold off the rights to the Dianetics name.) He doesn't actually refer to Hubbard by name but it's pretty obvious who he had in mind.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 08:40 AM (kcfmt)

73 I ran across the Richard Castle book series, from the TV Show.  Apparently ABC has some ghost writing as Richard Castle.  It has Fallen on the cover as author, along with the Bio of the TV character.  His character in the book is named Rook, and here is the best part.  Nickey Heat is just like Beckett only sluttier.  A light read, not bad, since the TV show already gave me the visual of the characters.

Posted by: Paladin at May 12, 2013 08:41 AM (3Eu3B)

74 Of course, the True Blood series, is a blood soaked, perverse merrygoround, and that was only from the first episode, well it comes from Alan Ball who is seriously twisted.

Posted by: cornelius, waiting for the Cobalt bomb at May 12, 2013 08:43 AM (Jsiw/)

75 Re #40 I'd like to know more about this. I've got stuff in my Amazon cart and I would like to know how to give AoS credit.

Posted by: kevmalone at May 12, 2013 08:49 AM (3srFj)

76 Pic of cleverly constructed locomotive BBQ beside ad for Nicole Ritchie's new media trial balloon 'Candidly Nicole'. Theme for the day: Train Wrecks?

Posted by: Socalcon at May 12, 2013 08:50 AM (K6CHr)

77 Then Hamilton discovered her clitoris or something in real life. Let me say I knew Hamilton (remotely) when she was nothing. She got divorced when she made it big, and became even more theatrical and self-indulgent. Her character was ALWAYS her, and apparently went down the exact same road.

Posted by: zsasz at May 12, 2013 08:51 AM (MMC8r)

78 One chick-lit vampire series I kind of like is Mary Janice Davidson's 'Undead and...' series, most of which Betsy the Vampire queen as their narrator. One aspect that really makes a difference is the strong sense of humor that runs throughout.

Another from the same author I liked is 'Me, Myself, and Why?' about an FBI unit comprised of people with severe mental disorders that also grant them insights into the criminals they track down. The lead character has multiple personalities. I recommend the audio version over the text because the performer really goes to town making each personality a distinct character.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 08:51 AM (kcfmt)

79 Re Blood of the Prophets, The distances involved and the contemporary records convince me that Brigham Young tried to stop the massacre. Cedar City is a long way from SLC, and Jacob Hamblin's timeline makes the most sense.

Posted by: Matt in Maine at May 12, 2013 08:53 AM (BcUF8)

80 Westworld. Where nothing can go worng.

Posted by: Cicero Kid


I'll tell you what went worng: every g-damned TV show and 'sci-fi' movie for 5 years after Westworld had at least one character rip off his face and - DUH! DUH! DUUUUUUH!  

OMG! HE's A Robot! Look wires and shit! E'rryone panic!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 12, 2013 08:55 AM (YTstp)

81 Thanks, epobirs at 52.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 12, 2013 08:56 AM (7TwHV)

82 happy birthday jw!

Posted by: chemjeff at May 12, 2013 09:00 AM (BBWjt)

83 Dick is my favorite!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 12, 2013 09:01 AM (BBWjt)

84 Le Carre was always a left douche. In his novels there was no difference between the west and commie countries.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 12, 2013 11:50 AM (cGHyT)



I may have been too young when I first picked up one of his books, but I thought they were ponderously boring wastes of time.  I've never felt compelled to try them again.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 12, 2013 09:04 AM (sdYFQ)

85 Cracked open a box I'd stowed away for more than a year. It was marked "Books - favorites." Among the things I am happily contemplating being reintroduced to:

Carrion Comfort by Dan Simmons. First-rate epic about evil mind-controlling "vampires." Highly recommended. For much of the book, it's a first-person narrative by an older woman, one of the evil creatures, and he pulls it off. Great book.

What Cops Know by Connie Fletcher. Consists entirely of quotes from cops, broken down as one chapter per subject. She tells you who the cops were at the end of the chapter, but not who said what. Very easy to read, very easy to get pulled into. Love it.

Black Sunday. Thomas Harris in fine form, well before he went off the rails and wrote the travesty that was Hannibal

The Holcroft Covenant by Robert Ludlum. Delightfully trashy. I love this book because it's so over the top and exaggeratedly dramatic, even for Ludlum. His technique for demonstrating that something is dramatic is that people start shouting, even to themselves, and expressing themselves in hysterical fashion, like "Don't you see! We had it wrong all along!" (not a real quote) (I think). I don't know why I like this overwrought Nazis-try-to-make-the-Fourth-Reich tale, but I do.

Posted by: Splunge at May 12, 2013 09:10 AM (bKA83)

86 What I'm currently reading: Shipstar by Larry Niven and Gregory Benford.

This is the sequel to Bowl of Heaven, in which a sublight colony ship from Earth discovers a much larger vessel, an immense half-sphere using a star as its energy source and propulsion system.

This won't be out until late this year but Larry gave me a copy of the Word file and I whipped up a quickie EPUB version. Interestingly, the best way to read this will be on a color tablet as it includes several highly detailed images of the Shipstar. It is possible the publisher will have some color plates in the hardcover and it isn't completely unheard of for a paperback. But the cost penalty for such isn't a factor if your reading it on a tablet.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 09:14 AM (kcfmt)

87 Ace recommended "The Monster of Florence." I'm not usually a fan of Preston, but this is excellent.

Posted by: Doug at May 12, 2013 09:17 AM (cRyPj)

88 If anyone is in the market for a $45,000 New Image Mini Drainable 9" Pouch - Color Match: Green - Beige - Box From Hollister with great reviews, it isn't available through Ace's store. astore.amazon.com/aoshq-20/detail/B000BF41FE

Posted by: Up With People! at May 12, 2013 09:17 AM (krveP)

89 Those who read CJ Cherryh might want to reconsider any future purchase of the author's books.  This was her comment on FB on May 5th about a news article calling Kansans fools for electing people who want to reject government subisidies.

The ironies contained in this piece show quite a gulf between the dogma people believe and the real situation they're in. The reason for having a government spanning numerous small divisions is so that, in time or circumstance of need, the government can move goods and services from areas of abundance to areas of crisis. This has helped us transition through technological changes, the Dust Bowl, industrial rise and fall---etc, and the family-farm crisis; but---is your own area a habitual donor, or a habitual recipient of this transfer? Worth knowing, before trying to dismantle the system.

Article she is commenting on - http://tinyurl.com/bqglnwu

You know, Apple or Motorola or Microsoft did not need the government to help them technologically transform the world.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 12, 2013 09:23 AM (k9TQr)

90 What I'm listening to: The Nightside series by Simon R. Green.

The Nightside is the secret magical core of London. The lead character is a hard boiled detective who many believe will eventually become a sort of  AntiChrist and destroy the world.

It is an enjoyable series but at times I've wanted to slap the author for inserting the zillionth reminder that this is the Nightside and weird stuff is normal here. After a half dozen volumes I really don't need to be reminded with anything like the frequency it was invoked in the first volume. If I'm still with you after this much, assume I get the setting.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 09:23 AM (kcfmt)

91 BTW, I did the URL trick to get the kindle version of Tyranny of Cliches. We really need to get more books on the AoSHq store.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 12, 2013 09:24 AM (xSegX)

92 Thanks, Roadrunner at 69. Those links are like tripping over the last container of Dilithium Crystals extant in the universe.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 12, 2013 09:25 AM (7TwHV)

93 currently reading Gilded Latten Bones by Glen Cook, getting ready for the release of the new Garrett P.I book in July, Wicked Bronze Ambition

Posted by: The Dude at May 12, 2013 09:28 AM (vJdyz)

94 91 It is an enjoyable series but at times I've wanted to slap the author for inserting the zillionth reminder that this is the Nightside and weird stuff is normal here.

Yeah, he does repeat himself a fair bit. I got really sick of a few turns of phrase, like "(some character) could (do something that is not a sport, like 'gloom') for the Olympics," or "suddenly and violently and all over the place."

But this doesn't keep me from really enjoying the Nightside series.

Posted by: Splunge at May 12, 2013 09:31 AM (bKA83)

95 #90

I don't need to reconsider on Cherryh. She has always bored the hell out of me whenever I've tried to read one of her novels.

C.J., businesses exist for the purpose of responding to scarcity. These locations are called 'markets.'

She mad also want to consider the role government played in making the Dustbowl far worse than it needed to be.

There is no family farm crisis. It was a hoax built of emotionalism over the transition from how agriculture as a business was conducted. Some people took longer to take the hint and suffered as a result. It was never as if the grocery stuff shelves would be bare for lack of goods. The choice of some people to continue living in the 19th Century is not a crisis.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 09:32 AM (kcfmt)

96 Holy shit, epobirs, you must be like Larry Niven's publicist or something. Damn.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 12, 2013 09:34 AM (6gk77)

97 Hey, I have a new book out, as well. It's called Free Shit: Living the American Dream. I know. I stole it.

Posted by: zsasz at May 12, 2013 09:45 AM (MMC8r)

98 I just picked up The Best Congress Money Can Buy.  I'll be sure to post a review of it once I finish reading it.  It's around 80 pages, so it should hopefully be pretty quick.

My book, My Teachers are Zombies, is still available for purchase
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CKJ70AW


Posted by: Tom In Korea at May 12, 2013 09:48 AM (oJkTX)

99 Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 01:32 PM (kcfmt)

There is one counter-argument to that:

national security requires that a country be able to maintain a food supply independent of its neighbors. So subsidizing that idyllic farm life to keep a small number of people on the farm does make some sense.

Absolutely the wrong thing to do economically, but for instance, Switzerland does that specifically to maintain a food supply.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2013 09:49 AM (O6Tmi)

100 Has anyone else with a Kindle had their "samples" disappear? I used to be able to download a sample and read it months later. Now they seem to be gone as soon as I turn the Kindle back on.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 12, 2013 09:50 AM (lVb7s)

101 That midget porn can get expensive.

Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2013 09:50 AM (KXWDL)

102 That midget porn can get expensive. Coming up short?

Posted by: zsasz at May 12, 2013 09:52 AM (MMC8r)

103 Splunge, I think I read the Holcroft Covenant during the summer of '82 while I was a swing shift security guard at the Intel plant in Dear Valley, AZ after my sophomore year of college. I remember reading the first scenes of Holcroft where the protagonist hears this wild story from the guy and then the guy has his throat cut right in front of Our Hero. Idiot protagonist then goes on the wildest of goose chases that last the entire book, because The Dude With The Ridiculous Story What Got His Throat Cut Right After Telling It Would Never LIE, Right?!?! Halfway through the book, I heaved it at the wall, swore, had another beer (at home after shift by then), then picked it up and finished it. Of course, since Books Are Sacred N Shit. I hated that book and it was the last of about ten Ludlum books I read that summer. That was nothing less than Epic Summer. I swam each day at my folks' house, drove an hour in horrible heat from Tempe to my job, and read for 8 hours and checked the doors of the plant twice in that time, which took about three minutes total. I alternately read over that summer the following: Every Stephen King novel then written Ditto every Ludlum novel Ditto every novel by Leon Uris and James Clavell Every novel by Pournelle and Niven written together, and all of Pournelle's written separately. Then in August it was back to college at Oregon State, tanned the color of dark chocolate, very well-rested, and ready to begin courting the First Ex-Mrs. Sharkman (AKA Cthulhu's Second Daughter, Pam). Ahhhhh. Good times indeed.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 12, 2013 09:52 AM (C3KwS)

104 #97

Nope, I do his IT support. My last visit was to set up a webcam and show him how to use it for an interview with a UK publication. Larry's brain is so heavily geared for big concepts the little real-life stuff is often mystifying to him.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 09:53 AM (kcfmt)

105 That locomotive looks like Walt Disney meets Sergio Leone. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 12, 2013 11:16 AM (+98Gb) The Good, The Bad, and The Goofy...

Posted by: Donald Duck's Gimp Mask at May 12, 2013 09:53 AM (Vk2pI)

106 Posted by: Sharkman at May 12, 2013 01:52 PM (C3KwS)

What did you think of the Falkenberg novels?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2013 09:54 AM (O6Tmi)

107 Falkenberg?  Even with Borloi and the Co-Do, at least we made it out into space before collapsing. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 12, 2013 09:56 AM (k9TQr)

108 epobirs, I have to wonder if C.J. would have to rewrite her Kesrith series if she was writing it today.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 12, 2013 09:58 AM (k9TQr)

109 guess I could post the videogame thread in a little while if no one beats me to posting a new thread

Posted by: The Dude at May 12, 2013 09:58 AM (vJdyz)

110 I'm back.  Grandson came by with his soon to be wifey.  They are about to make me a great granddad.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2013 09:59 AM (53z96)

111 112 I'm back. Grandson came by with his soon to be wifey. They are about to make me a great granddad. And here I thought you were just Old Granddad.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 12, 2013 10:00 AM (xSegX)

112 #101

Running farms in a way that delivers low productivity or goes bust and produces nothing is hardly a security booster.

You'd get more results from encouraging the big ag product producer and consumer companies to fund scholarship programs at ag and cow colleges. A big business is still going to need professionals as resident mangers of their operations. The difference is, the family doesn't get dragged down into overwhelming debt if the company that employs them screws up. They may be out of a job and see some rough time but nothing like the going down with the ship effect the family farm has had on many who couldn't deal with modern requirements.

For food security you need a good pool of well educated professional farmers, not slaves to a patch of soil.


Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 10:02 AM (kcfmt)

113 Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2013 01:59 PM (53z96)

Congratulations!

Good reason to drink bourbon!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2013 10:03 AM (O6Tmi)

114 Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 02:02 PM (kcfmt)

Agreed.

I said, "some sense." It clearly isn't the best way to do it.

In fact, with improvements in farming technology and genetics, fewer people than ever can produce more food. And the trend will continue in the positive direction for a long time. I can't imagine a non-extraordinary set of circumstances other than government interference that would allow the world to starve.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 12, 2013 10:06 AM (O6Tmi)

115 I hated Shibumi. I don't get it, why is it so well regarded? Honestly curious here.

Posted by: BornLib at May 12, 2013 10:07 AM (zpNwC)

116 Halfway through the book, I heaved it at the wall, swore, had another beer (at home after shift by then), then picked it up and finished it. Of course, since Books Are Sacred N Shit

I know that feel, bro. I should mention another book I didn't finish last week - Ruckley's "Winterbirth".

Back in '08, I laughed it off my shelf when Kennet, depressive lord of Kolglagarbleblah, suddenly rouses himself and promises to make it all better. Then a crew of fanatic fatalists infiltrates Kolglagarblebleh and stabs him. Boy, I couldn't see that coming.

But I had to fish it out of the bin again - I mean, "Game of Thrones" was good when I re-read that one, so maybe it's improved with age. Oh, no. The map still sucks, the characters are still indistinguishable from one another, and I still have no clue why I should root for team Fate (whose members don't trust in fate) or team Honour (who are living on someone else's ancestral land).

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 12, 2013 10:07 AM (QTHTd)

117

Picked up "The Great Book of Amber" yesterday; all 10 of the Amber books by Roger Zelanzy in a huge 1258 page wrapping. I had read most of those books before, but it was so long ago I thought I would reaquaint myself with them.

 

As far as the "Ender's Game" movie goes, Orson Scott Card writes a column for a small weekly newspaper in my hometown of Greensboro; he has mentioned several times that he has maintained the rights to his novels, and also the creativity rights. He says that the movie will be as similar to the book as he can make it. 

Posted by: DaveinNC at May 12, 2013 10:08 AM (/NgNT)

118 #112

Rita Rudner: "My grandmother asks me, when is she going to be a great-grandmother? I told her, when she does something extraordinary."

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 10:08 AM (kcfmt)

119 #116

John Ringo's 'The Last Centurion' had a good subplot about farming. Following a devastating flu pandemic combined with a mini-ice age, there aren't enough survivors who understand how to run things and large numbers of yuppies have to start new lives learning from scratch how this stuff really works. The point was that there always needs to be a core group who knows how to do it the hard way if circumstances make it the only way once again.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 10:14 AM (kcfmt)

120 #119

Zelazny is one who went far too early. 'Lord of Light' is still to me the Watchmen of SF novels. I can only be completely understood with multiple readings because it manages to cross so many genres.

Posted by: epobirs at May 12, 2013 10:17 AM (kcfmt)

121 #100 Tom in Korea, thanks a bunch! The best part of publishing the book is knowing that awesome folks like you and the other Morons can read it :-)

Posted by: Mastiff at May 12, 2013 10:27 AM (z/vPs)

122 Picked up "The Great Book of Amber" yesterday; all 10 of the Amber books by Roger Zelanzy in a huge 1258 page wrapping. I had read most of those books before, but it was so long ago I thought I would reaquaint myself with them.



I have that very same book.  I had read all of the individual books years ago when the library had them.  When I saw that one of the shelf at the bookstore I had to get it.

Here it is and $3 cheaper than what I paid for it.

http://is.gd/jDF95F

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2013 10:34 AM (53z96)

123 123 #100 Tom in Korea, thanks a bunch! The best part of publishing the book is knowing that awesome folks like you and the other Morons can read it :-)

No problem.  Was there any particular reason that you decided to make day the free day?  I've been considering when to use my first free day to promote the book.  I was thinking of making it a small celebration once my 100th copy is old.

Posted by: Tom In Korea at May 12, 2013 10:57 AM (oJkTX)

124

Thanks for the plug, OM - the first Sunday in months that I don't check the book thread by mid-morning is the day when you put me in the main post, with links to my books, too!

I plead distraction, as I am working away on my next historical -  set in Texas in 1875 - which I hope to release around November of this year.

(And anyone reading the Adelsverein Trilogy for the first time - enjoy! And realize that I hardly had to make anything up!)

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at May 12, 2013 11:09 AM (PvxhO)

125 Just finished taking the missus to "The Great Gatsby" Thought it would suck mightily but turned out to be great. Very faithful to the book and actors really found the emotional core of the novel. Lame-ass high school teachers try to present the book as an indictment of the American dream when it's really a great novel about the human condition. Highly recommended.

Posted by: Staff at May 12, 2013 11:22 AM (G9qZk)

126

in the Kindle, try "Killer" by Dave Zeltserman-- cheap and for some reason you want to root for this ex-mafia hitman

"Injured Reserves" by DC Bourone is another good one-- might have been recommended to me by another moron but I forget--

I second and triple recommend reading "The Martian" byWeir-- excellent

"Sleepless" or anything by Charlie Huston-- his vampire series is imho the absolute best around-- read everyone and wanted more

lastly for the week, try "Kill Whitey" by Brian Keene-- dark crime and supernatural-- what's not to like-- cheap too--

enjoy!

Posted by: tomc at May 12, 2013 11:37 AM (avEuh)

127 108, CBD: I loved all of the Falkenberg novels, every damned one of them and have always wished for more. Curiously reading then led me to Keith Laumer and his Bolo and Retief stories, all of which are amazing, IMHO.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 12, 2013 11:57 AM (7TwHV)

128 118 BTH. I must confess that on a single occasion in my 50 years, I did burn a book. It was The Alienist by Caleb Carr. This occurred at 2 am on the night after I graduated from Law School, May 12, 1995. It was simply The Worst Fucking Book I Have Ever Read. I was separated from Pam (Second Daughter of Cthulhu) for the first year of the seven we endured apart before finally divorcing, I had just missed graduating with honors by attaining a 2.999998 GPA, was no longer able to shoot the 25 foot J because I cut part of my shooting hand middle finger off accidentally in the Navy in '89, and was full of tenderloin, creamed spinach and garlic mash from a great dinner at Ruth's Cris. So I read the last 100 pages of this Putrid Tome while drinking an entire bottle of single malt scotch and smoking cigars on the porch of the duplex I rented a room in, and when finished tossed it onto the parking lot drain cover, poured a wee bit o' scotch onner, lit 'er up, and watched 'her burn (Scots accent optional whilst reading this tale - YMMV). The Smoking Wreckage was of course finally reduced to ash and those ashes doused by Draoining The Lizard. I confess this crime with head hung low, and ashamed. Just a typical conservative, me, I guess. It was fun, though.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 12, 2013 12:14 PM (6gk77)

129 I am working on these novels at the moment and they are great!

Novik's first novel, His Majesty's Dragon series

Posted by: catman at May 12, 2013 12:16 PM (krZBk)

130

Too late for last week's book thread, I finished Ruth Downey's Roman Britain-era comic detective novel Semper Fidelis, the fifth in the series.  Then I returned to, and finished David Quamman's Spillover, which I liked although his The Song of the Dodo was better. Spillover considers zoonotic diseases. Quamman could have devoted more time to the issue of what makes wild reservoirs important and less time on the speculation about how HIV got into people and where it incubated between the time it apparently jumped from chimpanzees to humans (c. 1900) and when it went global (c. 1960+).  

Here's a sci-fi short story on the theme of sleeping through star travel, <a href="http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/starday.htm">Starship Day</a>.    

Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at May 12, 2013 01:06 PM (VR8af)

131 I've continued to read those Evan Currie books (mil-scifi) and I can't wait for the September release of the next installment. May start the Jack Campbell  "Lost Fleet" series while I wait. I knew you would care. lol!

Posted by: and irresolute at May 12, 2013 02:20 PM (DBH1h)

132 133 I knew you would care. ------ We do, actually. That's why there's a book thread.

Posted by: Assault Citizen Anachronda at May 12, 2013 03:01 PM (U82Km)

133 It's obvious that the Russkies know nothing about BBQ.

Most BBQ pits have a fire box.  This guy has a fire in the wrong place in his BBQ pit.  He musta tossed some Wadka on it.

Posted by: TexBob at May 12, 2013 03:27 PM (N3F4O)

134 12 Never could get into P. K. Dick.

Vic, you just have to approach a Dick story with the whole "Stories have a beginning, middle, and end" thing tossed out the window,. especially the "end" part. After managing that, they are very enjoyable.


Posted by: West at May 12, 2013 05:03 PM (LHKGX)

135 122 #119

Zelazny is one who went far too early. 'Lord of Light' is still to me the Watchmen of SF novels. I can only be completely understood with multiple readings because it manages to cross so many genres.

Heh. I've practically memorized the damn thing.


Posted by: West at May 12, 2013 05:06 PM (LHKGX)

136 #125 Tom in Korea, Was there any particular reason that you decided to make day the free day? Mostly because of the book thread :-)

Posted by: Mastiff at May 12, 2013 09:20 PM (z/vPs)

137 Vic, you just have to approach a Dick story with the whole "Stories have a beginning, middle, and end" thing tossed out the window,. especially the "end" part. After managing that, they are very enjoyable.


Posted by: West at May 12, 2013 09:03 PM (LHKGX)



Maybe I'll give him another shot.  Some are available at Gutenberg for free so it will not cost me anything but time.

Posted by: Vic at May 13, 2013 12:13 AM (53z96)

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