May 26, 2013

Sunday Morning Book Thread 05-26-2013: In Memoriam [OregonMuse
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Good morning morons and moronettes and welcome to the the award-winning AoSHQ's Sunday Morning Book Thread.


War Stories

Even if this here AosHQ weren't such a smart military blog, I know we've got a crap ton of morons on here who are military history buffs and others who have a keen interest in military topics. So, in keeping with this being Memorial Day weekend, I happened to came across some books that might interest you guys, seriously.

The first book is Savage Continent: Europe in the Aftermath of World War II by Keith Lowe (available on Kindle, too). This came out in the aftermath of the Iraq War, that is, wars don't end when wars end.

Get a load of Lowe's description of post-WWII Europe:

Crime rates were soaring, economies collapsing, and the European population was hovering on the brink of starvation...still racked by violence, where large sections of the population had yet to accept that the war was over. Individuals, communities and sometimes whole nations sought vengeance for the wrongs that had been done to them during the war. Germans and collaborators everywhere were rounded up, tormented and summarily executed. Concentration camps were reopened and filled with new victims who were tortured and starved. Violent anti-Semitism was reborn, sparking murders and new pogroms across Europe. Massacres were an integral part of the chaos and in some places – particularly Greece, Yugoslavia and Poland, as well as parts of Italy and France – they led to brutal civil wars. In some of the greatest acts of ethnic cleansing the world has ever seen, tens of millions were expelled from their ancestral homelands, often with the implicit blessing of the Allied authorities

I remember the left getting all pissy because Iraq didn't become a magical, happy land of unicorns and rainbows immediately when hostilities officially ceased. Obviously, some historical perspective is in order, which the left sorely lacks.

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You probably won't enjoy A Long Way Gone: Memoirs of a Boy Soldier but that doesn't mean you shouldn't read it. The author, Ishmael Beah, was a child soldier in war-ravaged Sierra Leone during the 1990s:

Beah, now twenty-five years old, tells a riveting story: how at the age of twelve, he fled attacking rebels and wandered a land rendered unrecognizable by violence. By thirteen, heÂ’d been picked up by the government army, and Beah, at heart a gentle boy, found that he was capable of truly terrible acts.

Yes, this is wars are fought in the Third World nowadays: by children, hopped-up on drugs and wielding AK-47s.

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Many Vietnam War veterans have long resented John Kerry's 1971 false testimony that U.S. troops were routinely committing war crimes. They also didn't appreciate the Massachusetts senator painting himself as, if not a war hero, then certainly as a patriotic veteran, during his 2004 run for president. This led to the publication of Unfit For Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry by John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi and ignited a huge controversy as the Democratic mainstream media machine went into overdrive attempting to salvage the reputation of their preferred candidate and to discredit both his opponent and his supporters. The result was a major defeat for both the MSM and their candidate, who lost to George W. Bush.

How this all came about is detailed in To Set The Record Straight: How Swift Boat Veterans, POWs and the New Media Defeated John Kerry by Scott Swett and Tim Ziegler. Here is one of the Amazon reviews:

I read Unfit For Command and followed the story in 2004. I also followed the Bush TANG story, which is discussed in this book as an example of the attempt by the MSM to defend Kerry by attacking Bush's war record. I notice a couple of the one-star reviews and comments here try the same approach. I supported McCain in 2000 and was aware that Bush was not running on his war record. I also saw a thorough examination of the Bush TANG story on a left-wing web site in the spring of 2004 that concluded there was no "there" there. If 60 Minutes has used blogger Kevin Drum as a researcher instead of ideologue Mary Mapes, they would have saved some embarrassment. That story is in this book. This book also details the slavish support of Kerry on the part of the TV networks and the major daily newspapers. That behavior, I think, contributed to the decline in ratings and subscriptions that threaten to make them relics of the past. It also includes an excellent description of the rise of the alternative media, which swamped the defenders of Kerry and even coined the term "a guy sitting in his pajamas" to describe bloggers. The history of the rise of bloggers is an integral part of the story. I highly recommend it for that and several other reasons. Other reviews have adequately covered the factual basis of the story and the credentials of the Swiftboat vets. The book is more than that. It is history and anyone interested in the role of blogging in politics should read it for that story.

I read the first chapter last night, and was very pleasantly surprised. A book like this might very well have been some hyper-partisan polemic that can be easily written off by hostile critics, but it was a very well-researched, extensively footnoted examination of the various anti-war organizations of the 60s-70s, the communist sources of their funding and training, and John Kerry's involvement with them. This represents the kind of biographical research that should have been done years ago if we only a functioning free press in this country, rather tan a compliant, supine media dedicated only to furthering the interests of the Democratic Party. As such, the MSM are the big losers in this book, and now that I think about it, the 2004 election was probably their last major defeat.

This book has got politics, history, blogging, Rathergate, Kerry's duplicitous pandering, and MSM ideologues repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot. And all for 99 only cents. You can't beat that.


Another Moron Author Heard From

This week, I got an e-mail from a lurker who occasionally comments as 'arcadehero'. He says:

As my screen name implies, my area of interest is arcades and arcade gaming. I own and operate an arcade in West Valley City, UT called The Game Grid Arcade since 2008 and I also have been blogging about them in general since 2007 on Arcadeheroes.com, which I took ownership of in 2010. I recently completed and released my first book called The Arcade Experience: A Look At Modern Arcades and Why They Still Matter. I spend time on arcade history to show how arcades of today reached the point they are at now while chronicling various locations that are open today, arcade game releases over the past five years, the social aspect of arcades and the technological advances brought by the industry over the years. Available only through Amazon currently as Kindle download or through the CreateSpace print publishing.

Print Copy (full color)
Kindle Edition


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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, rumors, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at aoshqbookthread@gmail.com.

So what have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as we all know, life is too short to read lousy books.

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Posted by: Michael the Hobbit, but you can call me Michael at May 26, 2013 07:12 AM (7cS5n)

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Posted by: Michael the Hobbit, but you can call me Michael at May 26, 2013 07:13 AM (7cS5n)

10 I saw the Hobbit (well, it was a book), and it stunk up the joint.  They seemed to just be going through the motions.  How they'll take that little book and turn it into 3 full length movies I have no idea.

Posted by: pep at May 26, 2013 07:13 AM (6TB1Z)

11 10 — I win

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit, but you can call me Michael at May 26, 2013 07:13 AM (7cS5n)

12

Thanks Oregon Muse. 

 

I'm not sticking around, spending time with family today.  Hope everybody has a safe and meaningful Memorial Day. 

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 26, 2013 07:14 AM (ND7TC)

13 Posted by: Michael the Hobbit, but you can call me Michael at May 26, 2013 11:13 AM (7cS5n)


Michael is not what I'd call you.


That was incredibly annoying.  I'm sure OregonMuse really appreciates you crapping on his thread.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 26, 2013 07:16 AM (X6akg)

14  The Civil War didn't end when it ended, either. People like Jesse James, disaffected Southern soldiers, continued the war through their crime sprees and guerilla raids, for instance.

I vaguely remember Kerry from the '70s. All of us middle class students against the war and the draft and all that knew of his group and were scared of them b/c they were so radical. That's what started to convince me I was a useful idiot.

Posted by: PJ at May 26, 2013 07:16 AM (ZWaLo)

15

Michael, who is now known as Firsty McFirsterton, Epic First Douche.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 07:18 AM (8+xjO)

16 I just finished "Birdseye: The Adventures of a Curious Man" by Mark Kurlansky. Very surprising to me. He was a bookish looking guy, but a serious hunter, explorer, and adventurer. He was a decent cook who would eat anything he could catch or kill, even whales that he harpooned himself. He was also a first rate capitalist who turned his ideas into a fortune. Definitely moron material.

Posted by: Red in Maine at May 26, 2013 07:19 AM (104v+)

17

I read an interesting little book the other day, The Last Battle, by Stephen Harding.  He documents a curious little incident that occurred in May 1945 in Austria.   A group of high-profile French prisoners are being kept in an old castle converted into a prison.

 

The officer and guards abandon the French.  A Wehrmacht officer learns of the prisoners and is concerned that they will be murdered by the SS roving around the area that are killing civilians and soldiers not showing sufficient motivation for the Fuhrer.  Long story short, the Wehrmacht officer makes contact with the Americans and goes with them to rescue the prisoners.

 

This is the only documented case of Germans and Americans joining together in combat in WWII.  The SS mounted a little siege that lasted about 12 hours and German troops with the Americans helped fight the SS.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at May 26, 2013 07:20 AM (b0pG9)

18 I see that some douche showed up and crapped all over the thread.  If one the cobs is around, they need to erase his stupidity.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at May 26, 2013 07:24 AM (b0pG9)

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I'm reading Stephen Coont's Deep Black: Jihad.  It's the first time I've read him.  It moves quickly and its short chapters suit my ADD.

At a slower pace, I'm reading The War Nerd by Gary Brecher.  This a survey of past and present conflicts with mostly evenly applied snark for all involved.  A friend and I disagree on whether his attempt to defend French military honor was serious or snark.

 

Posted by: Nash Rambler at May 26, 2013 07:26 AM (h+OzC)

20 Sorry, guys. As with many dumb things, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit, but you can call me Michael at May 26, 2013 07:30 AM (7cS5n)

21 My father served in Hawaii in WWII. He passed away not long after 9-11. I guess I am relieved he is not seeing what is happening to this country today.

Posted by: AnnaS at May 26, 2013 07:32 AM (LP0Fj)

22 Songs from the War Between The States - Civil War - War of Northern Aggression: http://www.pdmusic.org/civilwar.html

Posted by: Baldy at May 26, 2013 07:32 AM (tyDFN)

23

This represents the kind of biographical research that should have been done years ago....

 

And now he's S.O.S. in spite of all the rest.

Posted by: harleycowboy at May 26, 2013 07:32 AM (+9AX9)

24 Oh, that was a good one by Crowley, this one by Hanson, looks like it won't dissapoint, http://tiny.cc/in6oxw the reviewer Moyar, has been good at debunking everything from the lies about the Phoenix Program, to the first years in Vietnam, even though one minor flaw, Themistocles was an Admiral

Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 26, 2013 07:33 AM (Jsiw/)

25 >>Sorry, guys. As with many dumb things, it seemed like a good idea at the time. You're not the first, and won't be the last. Just get us some coffee, and we'll never speak of this again.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 07:38 AM (4Mv1T)

26 Indulged in some silly fun SF, Captain Vorpatril's Alliance by Lois McMaster Bujold. Not to spoilerize or anything, but at one point the characters manage to inadvertently sink the entire ImpSec building. Also I suspect poor Ivan is a direct descendent of Bertie Wooster. For Memorial Day reading I recommend the (non-fiction) work of George MacDonald Fraser, he of Flashman fame. Quartered Safe Out Here is his personal experiences in Burma during WWII. He has more lighthearted stories in the McAuslan books such as The General Danced at Dawn which are still based in reality but use a lot of "composites" to shield the guilty and dodge retribution. His was a Highland regiment, and the tale of a ginormous reel involving Arab camel drovers, Highlanders, and drunk generals is especially hilarious to those of us who do Scottish dancing. And now back to writing my own silliness involving the dangers of sticking tuna fish sandwiches in classified file cabinets...

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 26, 2013 07:40 AM (wfSF5)

27 Just finished Rorke Denver's "Damn Few: Making The Modern SEAL Warrior." Best special forces book I've ever read. Nice blurb by Steven Pressfield on the back cover. Last chapter is "The Warrior's Bookshelf" -- Thucydides, Sun Tzu, Pressfield, U.S. Grant, Ambrose, etc. For the heading "The Ideals We Fight For" -- Declaration of Independence, Constitution of the United States, and Gettysburg Address "Because it wastes not a single word." Definitely does not fit the MSM knuckle-dragger meme about SEALs. If the author's name sounds familiar, he is the real life SEAL officer who played the officer in the movie "Act of Valor."

Posted by: Doug at May 26, 2013 07:41 AM (r+EHB)

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Michael: 

 

 

I was actually rooting for you to get a perfect ten in a row, but when you missed at 9, dat Ol' Black Debil whispered in my ear that you were now to be branded as The Enemy Of All Right Thinking Folk, hence my commentary.

 

 

In truth, I am quite certain that the blog will remain functioning at its usual 32% efficientcy without too much weeping, and the world will also continue to spin on its axis sans calls for your summary execution at dawn.

 

 

Courage, people.  Courage.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 07:42 AM (8+xjO)

29 I think it's Gabe ? who's griped re the "first" thing, but I think it's funny when semi-serious adult morons play that kids' meme here on AoS. Regulars laugh about it. Then there's not so amusing versions. ♦ I thanked God when GWB beat the Clinton cohort Al Gorey and thanked God again when he fended off JFing Kerry as well. Now we've replaced Hillary with Kerry as two pathetic heartbeats away from the White House. Wtf'ingF? "The People Rule," I translated the Latin on the Little Rock officer's car. "Is that what it means?" he replied, "Not any more they don't!" And that was only 1972.

Posted by: mindful webworker usually daylurker at May 26, 2013 07:45 AM (rf20m)

30 wah. the banhammer made me lose my place. (scrolls up)

Posted by: mindful webworker usually daylurker at May 26, 2013 07:46 AM (rf20m)

31 Regarding Benghazi talking points--if there had been an unjustified, premediated massacre by American-supported folks in 1980s/90s Colombia, 1980s El Salvador, the Philippines of Marcos, the Iran of the Shaw, South Korea before it totally opened up governance, by the Contras, by the Kharzai group, or by the 2000s Iraqi government--or if the peope of those nations had murdered our diplomats as was done in Benghazi--if any of those had happened, *and if* a Republican President had in any way tried to manipulate understanding of the event so as to either avoid embarrassment, or continue a preferred foreign policy, and especially if the manipulation had involved arresting an American citizen (no matter what the background of that individual)--then in that case anyone who doubts there would not be serious calls from the Left for unexhausting investigation and possible impeachment never lived through Iran-Contra, or those times in general. Because there would be, and was. I support secession from the current polity because I am not a Catholic and the President is not a Pope. Thus, he can neither claim infallibilty nor would I grant it--and yet somehow this administration just never seems to have to play by the same rules, the same standards, as others, and I fear that unless drastic measures are made to happen unless elite institutions stop issuing themselves and their preferred pliticians prrmanent "get out of jail free" cards, then we are irredeemably set on the road to what will, at best, be a benevolent sort of oligarchic despotism, but will in no way be a self-governing Republic by the common man.

Posted by: T. at May 26, 2013 07:47 AM (bAKC/)

32 Good morning, morons & 'ettes. 'Hope you are all having a restful & inspiring Memorial Day weekend. Thanks especially to those of you who served or are serving this country. I don't usually pop in on the book thread but Mr Y-not was very animatedly telling me about a book he's reading right now that I think might be up many of your alleys: Red November by W. Craig Reed. It goes into some depth about Cold War era sub warfare & the Cuban missile crisis. Mr Y-not reads a lot of military history, but he said he's learning quite a lot from this book. You might want to check it out. http://www.amazon.com/Red-November-Inside-U-S-Soviet-Submarine/dp/B004NSVEY6

Posted by: Y-not at May 26, 2013 07:47 AM (5H6zj)

33 Memorial Day recommendation: With the Old Breed. A grunts eye view of the invasions of Peleliu and Okinawa in WWII. Excellent.

Posted by: matt in maine at May 26, 2013 07:47 AM (p9PPc)

34 I'm listening to the audio book of Cormac McCarthy's The Road. I avoided it for a few years because I wasn't really in the mood for a depressing, bleak story about post-Apocalypse America. But now my mood about the Nation could hardly worsen. It is what I thought it'd be, provides plenty of food for thought.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 26, 2013 07:50 AM (ZshNr)

35 Wow. Epic Juan Williams nuttiness on Fox News Sunday this morning. Apparently, Holder's job is to sign off on whatever his underlings put in front of him as a testament that they're good folks. Only when something goes wrong does he need to look at what they've given him to see if it makes sense. Fortunately, Brit Hume was there to smack him around a bit.

As far as reading goes, still working my way through "The Impossible Country" about North Korea. Fascinating stuff that I had no clue about.

Posted by: Largely Irrelevant Assault Citizen Anachronda at May 26, 2013 07:51 AM (U82Km)

36 "Unbroken" by Laura Hillenbrand, of course.

Posted by: Libra at May 26, 2013 07:52 AM (q5QAW)

37

In order to cleanse the blog forever of The Horror of Michael's Defilement, I give you . . . Denise Richards:

 

 

http://tinyurl.com/plhtf8d

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 07:52 AM (8+xjO)

38 Posted by: Lincolntf at May 26, 2013 11:50 AM (ZshNr)

Over at chicago boyz they are touting the book, "America 3.0" which claims exactly what the title suggests, that we are not on the downside...quite the opposite.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2013 07:54 AM (O6Tmi)

39 25, I think "auto pen" is the new fall guy.

Posted by: PJ at May 26, 2013 07:54 AM (ZWaLo)

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Listening to Sabrina Chase's Fire Hearted on TTS with my Kindle. It's a 3rd party app because I have a Kindle Fire and doesn't recognize a lot of my books, but it does read all of Chase's so at least there's that.

 

Also listened to Baroness Orczy's Lady Molly of Scotland Yard which I liked better than her Old Man in The Corner. Both are mysteries (and I've noticed three versions of one particular story in three of her books) but Lady Molly is a much more sympathetic character than either the Old Man or the reporter in the other book.

 

Also listened to The Blue Fairy Book by Andrew Lang. I read all of his series that I could get my hands on in elementary school and it's nice to revisit them (and somewhat surprising to see which bits I'd either forgotten or remembered incorrectly).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 26, 2013 07:54 AM (lVb7s)

41 So this just happened: pic.twitter.com/qw9UfoS9FU Which is mostly notable because they are actually using a toy as intended. Normally they use the smallest possible chew bone for tug o' war and the tug toys for chewing because #brainy!

Posted by: Y-not at May 26, 2013 07:55 AM (5H6zj)

42 Oh, just so everyone knows, today's sports radio has been all about some college Coach being mean and some Soccer player being a "gay pioneer'.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 26, 2013 07:55 AM (ZshNr)

43 Not so many books were *finished* this time; I'm slogging through Dan Simmons's "Hyperion" series. I believe the term "epic" would describe it.

It isn't all that fun to read, honestly. It feels like a game of Calvinball in the arbitrary nature of its plot. Wherever, or should I say whenever, there are time-travelling all-powerful beings made of adamantine knives - well, there may be characters in the story, but the story won't be character-driven.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at May 26, 2013 07:55 AM (QTHTd)

44 Our Oriental Heritage (The Story of Civilization) by Will Durant. Pre-PC (1935) historian covers the history of the East. Extremely well-written, entertaining and informative. Learned something new in every chapter. $13.00 Kindle

Posted by: ChampionCapua at May 26, 2013 07:57 AM (KZi9D)

45 I got and started A Long Way Gone a couple of years ago. Haven't reached the truly bad parts yet, but because I suspect what's coming it's been *very* easy to find other things to read. Guess I need to be a grown up about it and just read it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at May 26, 2013 07:57 AM (lVb7s)

46 Does anyone have suggestions on how to use the AOS Amazon? I have tried several times but it always reverts to plain Amazon

Posted by: FCF at May 26, 2013 07:57 AM (Khja4)

47 Zombie book recommendation: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot by W.J.Lundt. Written by an Army enlisted man. Very well done. The writing is as smooth and clear as ice. His sequel stays on target, too.

Posted by: eman at May 26, 2013 07:57 AM (izP01)

48 Aristotle's Poetics, motherfucker! Have you read it?!

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo, sighting down the barrel at all SF / fantasy authors at May 26, 2013 07:59 AM (QTHTd)

49 37 Lundy not Lundt.

Posted by: eman at May 26, 2013 08:00 AM (izP01)

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Does anyone have suggestions on how to use the AOS Amazon? I have tried several times but it always reverts to plain Amazon

 

It's been Pixxy-fied for your convenience!

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2013 08:00 AM (590g/)

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Wow, somebody's riding the cotton pony this morning.  Banning Michael the Hobbit for being a little sillier than most is a bit extreme. 

 

 

Semi - OT:  I miss MACHINES FOR SALE.  Did he/she get banned, too?

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 08:01 AM (8+xjO)

52

Granddad served in WWI in France and left some little bits of his shoulder in the dirt over there.  Dad ended up in three camps in Japan from 1942-1945.  

I assumed somehow I would be dragged kicking and screaming into a third world war.   Not going to lie, their stories scared me as a kid.  Despite my father not telling them.    I was not a pacifist so much as attached to all my body parts and spoiled.

 

So every Memorial Day I realize how lucky and spoiled I am and feel fairly unworthy to have brave people risking everything to keep me   safe.  

 

Thank you.    

Posted by: Beagle at May 26, 2013 08:02 AM (sOtz/)

53 "The Story of a Common Soldier of Army Life in the Civil War 1861-1865 by
Leander Stillwell (free ebook)  They were often hungry
http://preview.tinyurl.com/oe2t28h

Personal Memoirs Ulysses S. Grant  (99c ebook on Amazon)




Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 26, 2013 08:04 AM (ARXZ8)

54 41 Wow, somebody's riding the cotton pony this morning. Banning Michael the Hobbit for being a little sillier than most is a bit extreme. Semi - OT: I miss MACHINES FOR SALE. Did he/she get banned, too? Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 12:01 PM (8+xjO) Didn't seem ban-worthy to me.

Posted by: eman at May 26, 2013 08:04 AM (izP01)

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Curse you blog spacing gremlins. 

Posted by: Beagle at May 26, 2013 08:04 AM (sOtz/)

56 Yahoo it's noon blog time which is way past time to get out the beer and lose the pants.  Got a pork shoulder that's been smoking since 6AM. 

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at May 26, 2013 08:06 AM (kxSZr)

57 >>>Got a pork shoulder that's been smoking since 6AM. Posted by: SpongeBob Saget GPS coordinates for the Horde please. We won't share it with anyone else.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 08:08 AM (4Mv1T)

58 If you feel you need to read more Literature but are pressed for time, I recommend "Heart of Darkness" by Conrad and "Animal Farm" by Orwell. Both clock in at around 100 pages, but oddly they're both allegories of mammoth subjects (imperialism and communism, respectively.)

Next on my Itty-Bitty Litty Committee is "Notes from the Underground" by Dostoevsky. Any other recommendations for tiny tomes of importance?

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 26, 2013 08:08 AM (celt+)

59 Just finished "The Martian" by Andrew Weir and R. C. Bray, on Kindle. The idea is that an astronaut is accidentally left behind when the rest of his crew is forced to make an emergency evacuation from their Mars base. It sounds too contrived but the authors make it work pretty well. The main part of the book will delight engineering types as it describes in detail the castaway's innovations that keep himself alive and ultimately even comfortable. This is as hard as "hard" sci-fi gets, morons! That's the good news. The authors must have gotten all tuckered out thinking up all the survival engineering because once the hero is finally out of danger, the book just stops in a most unsatisfying manner that fritters away all the empathy that has been built up for him. In fact at the very end he comes across as a self-centered asshole! Weirdest ending to an enjoyable story I have ever run into.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 26, 2013 08:09 AM (qIFL7)

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Just starting World War Z as well as Bunker Hill (by Nathaniel Philbrick). I attended a book signing in Seattle last week with Philbrick.  He's a typical Commie/Lib, but very funny and witty and I am enjoying the book so far.  Not so sure about WWZ, but I'll give it a chance. 

 

 

Sick to death of all things Vamp/Zomb/'Wolf, but still thinking about writing a book of my own, titled "Ouch, My Ass" which will be about a species of extraterrestrial Zombie Vampire Werewolfs who impregnate Democrat voters by inflicting anal sex upon them, and then on election day, their progeny burst from the Donk's chests and attach poll workers throughout the country.  The final vote counts are deemed somewhat unreliable as a result, but under the circumstances the Republicans are still declared the winners.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 08:10 AM (8+xjO)

61 32 North 98 West - radio in when you get there and we can give you approach vectors.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at May 26, 2013 08:12 AM (kxSZr)

62 44 41
Wow, somebody's riding the cotton pony this morning. Banning Michael the Hobbit for being a little sillier than most is a bit extreme.


Semi - OT: I miss MACHINES FOR SALE. Did he/she get banned, too?
Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 12:01 PM (8+xjO)

Didn't seem ban-worthy to me.

Posted by: eman at May 26, 2013 12:04 PM (izP01)


It was annoying...but yeah, certainly not ban worthy annoying.  



FCF....that AOS Amazon link has confounded a lot of people. 

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 26, 2013 08:14 AM (X6akg)

63 Beagle - Ihadnoproblematallreadingthat.

Posted by: Freak Out! at May 26, 2013 08:15 AM (3z04s)

64 Posted by: ChampionCapua at May 26, 2013 11:57 AM (KZi9D)


My mom knew the Durants. I think she went to school with their kids. She used to talk about them a lot when I was growing up.

Weird thing is, I got into a medical career, moved to L.A., and wound up taking care of both  of the Durants at the Medical Center  I worked in. They were both very old and very tiny.

Posted by: HH at May 26, 2013 08:15 AM (XXwdv)

65 later 'rons and 'ronettes

Posted by: phoenixgirl@phxazgrl..gone to MAUI at May 26, 2013 08:16 AM (GVxQo)

66

I was posting as Beagle at the lefty Straight Dope in 2004 and did a quick search after Kerry did his "reporting for duty" speech and realized his military service was going to bite him in the butt.  Pre-"swiftboating," the stuff on the Internet was damning.   His  neverending  pompous  self-aggrandizing  lying I would   call it,  from overstating injuries to making up  war crimes.     

 

I am  now   reeling from being the last to know Holder is an Afro-nationalist racist from way back then.   Boring and moderate never looked so good as now.  

Posted by: Beagle at May 26, 2013 08:16 AM (sOtz/)

67 56 later 'rons and 'ronettes

Posted by: phoenixgirl@phxazgrl..gone to MAUI at May 26, 2013 12:16 PM (GVxQo)


Have fun!  I loooove Maui!

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 26, 2013 08:17 AM (X6akg)

68

In hindsight all wars have battles and campaigns that should never have been fought. During WW 2 Western Europe one such battle was in the Huertgen Forest.

 

"The Bloody Forest-Battle for the Huertgen" by Gerald Astor is about this largely forgotten battle. From September 1944 to January 1945 the US Army sent division after division into this forest which is located on the border of Belgium and Germany just to the north of the Ardennes Forest.

 

Hilly with trees only feet apart, perpetually shrouded in mist, fog, rain and later snow, roads barely wide enough for tanks, well entrenched Germans, it was a nightmare for the US soldiers who fought there. Some veterans of the Normandy Invasion who also fought in the Huertgen said it was far worse than Normandy, even Omaha Beach. Most divisions that fought there were so decimated that some historians believe the initial gains by the Germans during the Battle of the Bulge was due to this battle.

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 26, 2013 08:17 AM (PBm/l)

69

Freakout   I   have   to  put  at  least  two  spaces   between  each  word.   Three  if  I  make  a  correction.    It  is  hard  to  get   used to. 

 

This  will  be  perfect  though.    Will  try  to  do  better.   This  post  was  good  practice.    But   right  thumb  is  sore.       

Posted by: Beagle at May 26, 2013 08:19 AM (sOtz/)

70 #42 You are worthy unless you have done something to not deserve it. Freedom is what they fought for. You would be unworthy to forget that.

Posted by: Freak Out! at May 26, 2013 08:19 AM (3z04s)

71

to  and  do  withstood  two  spaces

 

The  blog  gremlins  are  strong. 

Posted by: Beagle at May 26, 2013 08:20 AM (sOtz/)

72 IÂ’ll mention a third book, Berlin Diaries 1940-1945, by Marie Vassiltchikov, a Russian princess whose family fled the Russian revolution. She was closely related to one of my cousins. Wikipedia has a good article on her and the book. Although she isnÂ’t a real cousin, there are encounters in the book with people who are. One is Adam von Trott who was executed for his role in the Valkarie plot to kill Hitler. Posted by: Nash Rambler at May 26, 2013 11:29 AM (h+OzC) One of my favorite books. I enjoy first hand accounts and she was certainly in the middle of it all. I suspect Von Trott was banging her.

Posted by: Waldo at May 26, 2013 08:20 AM (dHIHO)

73 Greetings: especially "Sharkman" @ 51 I recently read Philbrick's "The Last Stand" about Custer's and the 7th's demise. His basic premise seemed to be that it was also Sitting Bull's but he failed to convince me about that. He managed to keep his "Commie/Lib" under control until the very end of the book, so it was definitely a worthwhile read. The maps were the best I've come across in too long a while. Currently, I'm reading Steve Coll's "Ghost Wars" about the USofA's most excellent pre-9/11 Afghanistan adventures. Also well worthwhile.

Posted by: 11B40 at May 26, 2013 08:20 AM (mrdWw)

74 I didn't even find the comment annoying. I've wondered myself how they're gonna stretch that book out. I just search what I'm looking for in the box for the store (you have to take off any ad blocking you may have). I thought someone once said Ace gets a cut of anything in the cart that's bought within 2 hours (days?) of clicking through.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 08:23 AM (zrlmb)

75

The  hard  Left   Islamophilic  UK  Independent  accidentally  gave  Jihad  Watch   a   featured  plug  today    when    their  typically  incompetent      layers   of   fact  checkers      used   JW  as  an  example  of   an  extremist  website. 

 

Or,   taken  at   face  value,  also  possible,  the  Left  plans   to  shut  down  Jihad  Watch  and  nothing  else.   Maybe   Geller   too. 

 

It  is  not   a   coincidence  they  tried  to   blame  Benghazi  on   a  Muhammed video   and   then  tried  to  blame  Geller  and  Spencer  for  the  video.  

 

Those  two  "Islamophobes"   are   Left/MSM  enemy  #2,  after  the Tea  Party.  

Posted by: Beagle at May 26, 2013 08:28 AM (sOtz/)

76

Machines for Sale is a puppeht from a regular.

No bannage there, although it may be harder to sneak that stuff through the new improved Pixxy4000 system.

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2013 08:29 AM (590g/)

77 Big day in racing. Monaco F1 race earlier. Indy 500 just started. Already one crash. Charlotte night race tonight. Somebody always threatens to run both Indy and Charlotte in one day. Also known as the hemorrhoid double.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 26, 2013 08:29 AM (R+6Q+)

78 GPS coordinates for the Horde please. We won't share it with anyone else.


Promise.

Posted by: hungry NSA tech at May 26, 2013 08:31 AM (z9HTb)

79 Yes, they tried for them, after Breivik, the Independent is not totally useless,
on occasion,

Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 26, 2013 08:31 AM (Jsiw/)

80

Freakout I have to put at least two spaces between each word. Three if I make a correction. It is hard to get used to.

 

 

No shit. 

 

My   emails and other correspondence  look like they were typed  featuring  Michael J. Fox on spacebar.

Posted by: garrett at May 26, 2013 08:31 AM (590g/)

81 I've been reading --- well, re-reading, but it's been a couple of decades --- Irving Babbitt's Rousseau and Romanticism. It's a great read for those interested in intellectual history and for those who want to better understand the f-e-e-l-i-n-g-s of the Left. Mr. DeVille has been reading Brave Dragons by Jim Yardley. It's about an American coach who goes over to China to coach a basketball team. Culture shock! Mr.DeV keeps being reminded of Barbara Tuchmann's book on Stillwell's WWII experience, his difficult dealings with the Chinese military.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2013 08:32 AM (C8mVl)

82 making my way through The Lives of Tao, pretty good so far

Posted by: The Dude at May 26, 2013 08:33 AM (vJdyz)

83

"Didn't seem ban-worthy to me."

 

My comment was my attempt at being cryptically sarcastic about Michael the Hobbit's banning.  I can see some commenters being pissed at MACHINES FOR SALE even though I thought he/she was the funniest commenter ever.  But like Michael at the start of this thread, MACHINES hardly earned a complete banning no matter what the scold's vaginas might have been telling them.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 08:33 AM (8+xjO)

84 George MacDonald Fraser also wrote about the Border Reivers...those of you with Scots-Irish ancestry should read it. The Steel Bonnets: The Story of the Anglo-Scottish Border Reivers

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 08:36 AM (zrlmb)

85 As usual, completely missed it.  What will get me banned this time?

Posted by: Beagle at May 26, 2013 08:42 AM (sOtz/)

86

75 Tammy al-Thor

 

That is a good book. The Border Reivers were also called "Land Pirates." Some of my ancesters were of the Maxwell Clan, a large Lowland Border family and also Border Reivers.

 

I sometimes make fun of Highlanders by saying their men wore skirts, while the Lowlanders were Land Pirates.

Posted by: ExSnipe at May 26, 2013 08:42 AM (PBm/l)

87 I spent yesterday AM at the Strategic Air and Space Museum near the old SAC HQ, then yesterday evening at a Beach Boys concert in Council Bluffs with about 17,000 in attendance. American music by Americans played for Americans, young and old of every stripe. I capped it off by watching "Twelve O'clock High" for the first time, after having it recommended to me for so many years. This is my first holiday in the US since I got back from a few months of work overseas in a kinda unpleasant and vaguely dangerous place. I am very glad to be back, very grateful to be an American, and very happy to have a crowd like you to share that with. And I am truly mindful of the hard work and sacrifice it has taken over time and generations to make America such a great country. Happy Memorial Day to all, enjoy your weekend!

Posted by: MarkW at May 26, 2013 08:43 AM (whanP)

88 Why was Michael the Hobbit banned?

Posted by: Waldo at May 26, 2013 08:43 AM (dHIHO)

89 49 ---" Any other recommendations for tiny tomes of importance?" Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 26, 2013 12:08 PM (celt+) --------------------- Off the top of my head--- Kafka's Metamorphosis Wm Golding's Lord of the Flies Bastiat's The Law (ca. 50 pages!) Hazlitt's Economics in One Lesson Edith Wharton's Ethan Frome Ayn Rand's Anthem HG Wells's Time Machine is under 100, IIRC, and worth a read

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2013 08:44 AM (C8mVl)

90 >>>Why was Michael the Hobbit banned? Posted by: Waldo That TB3K has a hair trigger.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 26, 2013 08:45 AM (4Mv1T)

91

@70

the Independent is not totally useless,
on occasion,

Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 26, 2013 12:31 PM (Jsiw/)

 

---- ---- ---- ---

Agreed.    Basic  "get  the  story"  journalism  is  still   much  healthier  in  the  UK  than  here.    But  their  PC  paralysis  is  often   worse.  

Posted by: Beagle at May 26, 2013 08:45 AM (sOtz/)

92 Just finished Dan Brown's Inferno. Not having read his other hits but being predisposed to thinking he is something of a pompous douchebag, I nonetheless assumed he was capable of telling the kind of hi-tech historical fiction I am otherwise interested in. This book is currently being reamed by reviewers by Amazon (295 5-stars but 53 one-stars and 80 two-stars). My sense is that Brown may have drawn too much praise for the Da Vinci Coda, and is now receiving too much criticism for Inferno. Despite all the surrounding hoopla and negative overhang, I enjoyed it. Quoth the publisher: In the heart of Italy, Harvard professor of symbology Robert Langdon is drawn into a harrowing world centered on one of historyÂ’s most enduring and mysterious literary masterpieces, DanteÂ’s Inferno. Against this backdrop, Langdon battles a chilling adversary and grapples with an ingenious riddle that pulls him into a landscape of classic art, secret passageways, and futuristic science. Drawing from DanteÂ’s dark epic poem, Langdon races to find answers and decide whom to trust ... before the world is irrevocably altered. The story opens with the protagonist Langdon lying in a hospital bed, seemingly having narrowly survived a shot in the head and in possession (well, actually his clothes are in possession, he's in a hospital gown) of a strange relic regarding which he has no recollection. Shortly after he awakens, masked gunmen come looking for the relic, killing one doctor and forcing a second with unexpectedly mad survival skills to whisk him from the scene. At her townhouse, Langdon's savior explains how he showed up a couple of days prior, badly injured and unable to remember what happened because of his head injury. Not surprisingly, the gunmen from the hospital quickly track the duo to their hiding spot and try again, and when still more assassins show up to kill the first, well, you've got a Dan Brown novel on your hands. Ultimately, Inferno is a journey through plots first hatched in the Middle Ages by cunning Florentine counts and manipulative Venetian doges. The descriptions are vivid (if wordy), the scenery is exotic, and the integration of a Dante-evocative scheme coming to fruition in the 21st century is executed nicely. If you accept the story for what it is and don't get bogged down by who wrote it and whether you'll be considered a trendy dork for reading it, I think you'll find Inferno to be a fast, fun ride easily worth the time investment. Rating: 4 out 5

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 26, 2013 08:48 AM (bS6uW)

93 Re: The Last Battle; by Stephen Harding, I found a youtube clip 7min interview on the book posted two days ago.  Fascinating .  I'm going to pick this one up for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un2aEXwh720


Posted by: Yip at May 26, 2013 08:48 AM (/jHWN)

94


"I recently read Philbrick's "The Last Stand" about Custer's and the 7th's demise. His basic premise seemed to be that it was also Sitting Bull's but he failed to convince me about that. He managed to keep his "Commie/Lib" under control until the very end of the book, so it was definitely a worthwhile read. The maps were the best I've come across in too long a while."

 

 

Hey, 11B40.  Hope you are well. 

 

 

I have not read "The Last Stand" yet, but willl soon on your recommendation.  I read Philbrick's "Mayflower" back in 2007 when it came out and I loved it.  Not just about a bunch of frightened colonists landing on a rock, but mainly about King Philip's War, the first of the French and Indian Wars and just about the bloodiest thing since the 30 Years' War decimated Central Europe. Eye-opening, to say the least.  The colonists gave as good as they endured and then some.

 

 

I attended the book signing with an old Navy buddy and of course being a pompous asshole as well as a lawyer (BIRM), I had to ask Philbrick a question after his excellent talk: 

 

 

"Given the pathetic reaction of Boston's population and government in the aftermath of the Marathon Bombing last month, which resulted in a million defenseless citizens cowering in their houses for 48 hours while a veritable police state constabulary hunted for a wounded and unarmed teenager, have you thought of adding an addendum to this book for the second edition called "What A Difference 238 Years Makes"?

 

 

Being a typical Commie/Lib but also having a modicum of grace and class, Philbrick didn't bust my balls or drop a lefty talking points screed on me and the crowd, but rather talked eloquently about this and that for about ten minutes whilst deftly dodging my question.  It was an artful performance, to be sure.

 

 

Begone, vile blog space demons!!!

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 08:49 AM (8+xjO)

95 That photo is almost too much for me.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 08:51 AM (piMMO)

96 You know Rambler, who else you may be related to;http://tiny.cc/tbapxw.


Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 26, 2013 08:51 AM (Jsiw/)

97 I STILL LOVE YA, MICHAEL [Banned for use of caps.]

Posted by: Waldo at May 26, 2013 08:52 AM (dHIHO)

98 The Fall of Paris by Lottman is good too. FDR resisted the French begging for help as long as he could. All I could think was, why didn't the French at least send a spy over to Germany during all these years?? They were living in a dreamworld. "Tanks? Mon Dieu!"

Posted by: PJ at May 26, 2013 08:53 AM (ZWaLo)

99

"Why was Michael the Hobbit banned?"

 

He quite creatively almost succeeded in grabbing top ten comment spots, making it through 8 before failing.  His "comments" were simply the number of the comment right next to the little red number that indicates the comment block occupied, like this:

1 1

2 2

3 3

4 4

and so on.  I thought it was very funny and the 0.127 nanoseconds it took me to scroll past it into the substantive comments only caused a momentary flameup of my carpel tunnel, so I only had to down three oxycontin as an immediate result, rather than the usual 6.

 

Hair trigger indeed.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 08:53 AM (8+xjO)

100 Well except the villain, is one of these folks obsessed with AGW, and resource depletion, so he comes up with a very 'Swiftian' solution, but it makes for a nice travel log

Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 26, 2013 08:53 AM (Jsiw/)

101 The Crying of Lot 49 by Thos. Pynchon is short and good and wildly prophetic.

Posted by: Waldo at May 26, 2013 08:54 AM (dHIHO)

102 ExSnipe, my family were mostly in the Middle March and on both sides; Scots (Armstrong and Elliott) and English (Hunt) Fair amount in the Yorkshire Ridings, West and North

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 08:55 AM (zrlmb)

103 Ah, I see, I missed the actual annoying stuff.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 08:56 AM (zrlmb)

104 75 George MacDonald Fraser also wrote about the Border Reivers...those of you with Scots-Irish ancestry should read it.

The Steel Bonnets: The Story of the Anglo-Scottish Border Rievers  

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 12:36 PM (zrlmb)

 

Noted.  A few weeks ago on the ONT, people were bragging about how their riever ancestors went around harassing, if not killing, the English.

 

Those English  were my ancestors.  One family account  deals with an ancestor who was constantly besieged by rievers.   They eventually killed two of his sons-in-law.   As  a side note,  my ancestor supported 'inter-racial' marriage, i.e., he believed the English and Scots should be able to intermarry.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at May 26, 2013 08:58 AM (h+OzC)

Posted by: Nash Rambler at May 26, 2013 08:58 AM (h+OzC)

106 Pixy is a mean and vindictive bitch.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at May 26, 2013 08:59 AM (h+OzC)

107 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ3MkrSc5yY

Posted by: ELD at May 26, 2013 08:59 AM (poXSE)

108 Currently reading "Engineman" by Eric Brown. An ok read pretty much space opera. My Grandfather served as an airplane mechanic in Rickenbacker's Squadron during WW1. I tried to volunteered to be a waist gunner on helicopters in 1970 but my dad refused to sign off I was 17. Probably saved my life. When I turned 18,I signed up for US NAVY. I served on the USS Nitro for about a year till we took her to the Boston yards to be scrapped (yes the phantom shitter was still active, bastard would shit in your boot sometime during the night). After that I served aboard the USS Luce DLG-7 worked in the aft engineroom was a certified Top watch. I spent the last year ( served 6 years active). Aboard the the USS Canopus in HolyLoc Scotland I'm proud of my service rarely mention it. I will probably go off by myself and get drunk tomorrow.

Posted by: NativeNH at May 26, 2013 09:00 AM (RgIrR)

109 Hey Tammy, you up for a landscaping question?

(hey it's past 100, okay for O/T right?)

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 09:01 AM (BBWjt)

110 87 You know Rambler, who else you may be related to;http://tiny.cc/tbapxw.


 

Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 26, 2013 12:51 PM (Jsiw/)

 

Yep, I believe I have all of them in my tree.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at May 26, 2013 09:02 AM (h+OzC)

Posted by: ELD at May 26, 2013 09:03 AM (poXSE)

112
   What exactly is wrong about banning commenters who crow about being the first?  Very rude behavior, that.


    Personally, I prefer simply executing them, but that's just me.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 26, 2013 09:03 AM (SAMxH)

113 Now that I've gotten ridof FB is this where I report just getting a straight flush?

Posted by: That Guy at May 26, 2013 09:04 AM (vj51i)

114 Well, Nash, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that if your English ancestors were along the border, too, they probably have a few Reiver scalps on their belt. That seems to be the way they rolled back then, English or Scot. He fought off Reivers who were probably coming back for what he stole from them, which their grandfathers probably stole from your grandfather who stole it from their ggrandfather and so on. Possession being 9/10s of the law seems to have been taken very literally!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 09:04 AM (zrlmb)

115 Pot was up to about 2500, down tome and another guy. He had 150 left, I TOLD him before he bet it that I had a straight flush,and he went all in anyway. I'm thinking he was a republican.

Posted by: That Guy at May 26, 2013 09:06 AM (vj51i)

116 chemjeff, sure! I"ll even recommend a book to keep it on topic!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 09:06 AM (zrlmb)

117 Congratulations on the straight flush. Usually takes me two flushes.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 26, 2013 09:06 AM (R+6Q+)

118 Banning Michael the Hobbit for being a little sillier than most is a bit extreme.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 12:01 PM (8+xjO)

He wasn't banned. His irritating posts were deleted.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2013 09:07 AM (O6Tmi)

119 Three days of a heavy subject at the HQ make me really long for the ONTs.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 09:08 AM (piMMO)

120 Now that I've gotten ridof FB is this where I report just getting a straight flush? Straight flush? Meh. We're only interested if you've gotten a historical first Gay flush.

Posted by: Liquor in Front, Poker in the Rear at May 26, 2013 09:08 AM (ZR4Xh)

121 Another good short book is Pincher Martin by William Golding. Can't really say anything about it without being a "spoiler", but it's a good, wrenching read about a castaway. My wife is in the middle of Inferno, I'll read it next. I think a shitload of the opposition to Dan Brown is because he writes popular books that center on Christianity and Dead White Artists, two things the Left can't abide. What other author of novels has been attacked because they weren't "true"? Stupid. I liked Da Vinci Code, thought Angels and Demons was patently ridiculous, but will definitely read Inferno.

Posted by: lincolntf at May 26, 2013 09:08 AM (ZshNr)

122 Banning Michael the Hobbit for being a little sillier than most is a bit extreme. *** What did I miss?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 09:08 AM (piMMO)

123 RE: "Reivers"

...and all this time I thought it was a made up word  'the bogey man from stories' in Firefly/Serenity. Ya learn stuff here.

I love the horde, well, most, ok, some, serious you guys.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 26, 2013 09:08 AM (3dSJO)

124 I did get a royal flush a month ago. Posted the play by play movie of it to youtube. A 65,000 to 1 shot. Probably be the only one in my life.

Posted by: That Guy at May 26, 2013 09:11 AM (vj51i)

125 What did I miss?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 01:08 PM (piMMO)[i/i]

Nothing. He wasn't banned. Just a deletion of some irritating comments that distracted from the Book Thread.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2013 09:11 AM (O6Tmi)

126 Football, cheeseburgers, apple pie, and Jeeps. #NoFinerCountry

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 09:11 AM (piMMO)

127 I read the first chapter of The DaVinci Code. What utter crap writing.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 26, 2013 09:12 AM (celt+)

128 No wait,I'm sorry, the royal flush was 650,000 to 1 odds. Str flush today, 72,000 to 1

Posted by: That Guy at May 26, 2013 09:12 AM (vj51i)

129

The Fall of Paris by Lottman is good too. FDR resisted the French begging for help as long as he could. All I could think was, why didn't the French at least send a spy over to Germany during all these years?? They were living in a dreamworld. "Tanks? Mon Dieu!"

 

The French were confident that they could resist a German invasion.  Vastly superior doctrine on how to deploy armored forces is where the Germans kicked ass in 1940.  The French actually had some quite nice tanks (by early  WWII  standards) but tended to disperse them is "penny-packets" all over the place.  The Germans concentrated their armor and had much more agile-thinking high command at that time.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at May 26, 2013 09:13 AM (b0pG9)

130 Posted by: lincolntf at May 26, 2013 01:08 PM (ZshNr)

Daniel Silva's Gabriel Alon series is an interesting confluence of art, spies, terrorists and politics.

Especially the earlier ones. His later ones have become a bit formulaic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2013 09:13 AM (O6Tmi)

131

@105 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 01:04 PM (zrlmb)

 

I think you're probably right.  Some day, maybe I'll figure out which other ancestors lived on either side of the border and might have interacted.  I'm looking forward to reading that book.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at May 26, 2013 09:14 AM (h+OzC)

132

CBD:  Michael the Hobbit's apology comment was also deleted, hence the thought that he's been permanently hanged, drawn and quartered, banned, barreled, burned and his ashes pissed on. And he hasn't shown up since apologizing, so I think it is safe to assume he has been Sanctioned with Extreme Prejudice.

 

 

The Blog Watchers Be Watchin'!

 

 

Now to search the 'Tubes for one of MACHINES FOR SALE's epic comments.  I've looked before to no avail but maybe this time I'll succeed.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 09:14 AM (8+xjO)

133 I would talk books,but the last book I read was 30 years ago.

Posted by: That Guy at May 26, 2013 09:15 AM (vj51i)

134 I like Daniel Silva. My wife is an Art Historian and loves his books. (She also once did a local television piece discussing the Da Vinci Code, back when she worked at Holy Cross. )

Posted by: lincolntf at May 26, 2013 09:15 AM (ZshNr)

135 Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 01:14 PM (8+xjO)

"machines for sale" was a classic. I haven't seen it in at least a year.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2013 09:16 AM (O6Tmi)

136 Posted by: lincolntf at May 26, 2013 01:15 PM (ZshNr)

I'm reading "Fallen Angel" right now, and it seems a bit tired. But the series was solid, so he's allowed a clunker or two.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2013 09:17 AM (O6Tmi)

137 Tammy, okay

I have this problem area in my yard, here it is

http://tinyurl.com/nltjzrn

It is on the western side of my house, it is a shaded area of the yard, it is not very accessible to anything, it is also where my AC unit is, and there is a gutter drainage pipe right underneath that little footpath area so I cannot dig it up too terribly much. 

Any suggestions?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 09:18 AM (BBWjt)

138 Pipes for sale was a biggie at one time.

Posted by: That Guy at May 26, 2013 09:18 AM (vj51i)

139 On family Poker night a few years ago, I was dealt a royal flush. I was able to ride that baby all the way to a $2.50 pot. The God of Luck is a cruel motherfucker.

Posted by: Somewhat Sorry To Offend You at May 26, 2013 09:18 AM (ZR4Xh)

140 Reading Rick Atkinson's latest ( 3rd to round out series ) on WWII,  The Guns at Last Light.  Follows from D-Day to the end.


Posted by: Yip at May 26, 2013 09:18 AM (/jHWN)

141 oblig. book:

Right now I am reading Mark Steyn's America Alone (yeah I know, I'm late to the party).  It seems a bit repetitive, actually.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 09:21 AM (BBWjt)

142 Any suggestions? Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 01:18 PM --- What are you trying to accomplish, chemjeff? Screening? Weed suppression? Beauty?

Posted by: Y-not is not Tammy at May 26, 2013 09:21 AM (5H6zj)

143 On family Poker night a few years ago, I was dealt a royal flush. I was able to ride that baby all the way to a $2.50 pot. The God of Luck is a cruel motherfucker. Posted by: Somewhat Sorry To Offend You at May 26, 2013 01:18 PM (ZR4Xh) ---- Thats how it works. Best hand of all time doesn't get jack. Mine was small, and had to slow roll all the fricking way so no one would suspect.

Posted by: That Guy at May 26, 2013 09:22 AM (vj51i)

144 131 On family Poker night a few years ago, I was dealt a royal flush.

I was able to ride that baby all the way to a $2.50 pot.


The God of Luck is a cruel motherfucker.

Posted by: Somewhat Sorry To Offend You at May 26, 2013 01:18 PM (ZR4Xh)


Well look on the bright side, now you know you can never count on another one again 

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 09:23 AM (BBWjt)

145 86---" That photo is almost too much for me." Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 12:51 PM (piMMO) ------------------------------- When I was 13, I had a huge crush on my oldest brother's good friend. Yep, X was my first luuuuuuuv, although he of course regarded me as the little-sister twerp that I was. No matter! I was going to maaaarrry him! They both entered the service at the same time, bro went into the Air Force, X into the Marines. X went to Vietnam and never came back. There are (alas) a couple of other names I know on that wall, but X's always make me the saddest. About 15 years ago, for some reason that I don't remember, I decided to write X's parents just to tell them the story. His dad was no longer living but his mom was deeply moved to hear from me. It reminded her that there are doubtless MANY out there, people she's never heard of, who still remember her son, who go to his name on that wall. If any of you know someone who has given the ultimate sacrifice, even if it's just a casual acquaintance, the guy you sat next to in chem lab, the kid you played ball with, whatever, try to find the address and write their family. Even if it has been years since you knew them. ESPECIALLY if it has been years. You remember!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2013 09:23 AM (C8mVl)

146 Y-not, I'd like it to be easy to maintain and just not be a bunch of weeds.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 09:24 AM (BBWjt)

147 As long as gardening questions are allowed, I have a question about broccoli & cauliflower. I have discovered that my cauliflower plants (which were planted first, while still very cool out) are going haywire. The heads are losing their compactness & "bolting." So they're shot. But the broccoli are behind the caulis (no heads yet) so how do I prevent them from doing the same thing? Also, any recomm's on pest control for chard? I think there's some sort of leaf miner attacking them.

Posted by: Y-not is not Tammy at May 26, 2013 09:24 AM (5H6zj)

148 Posted by: Somewhat Sorry To Offend You at May 26, 2013 01:18 PM (ZR4Xh)


I had a Royal Flush a couple of months ago at my game. I just slow played it, and did quite well on that hand.

Only time I've ever had one, outside of those stupid college games with deuces wild and all that.

Posted by: HH at May 26, 2013 09:25 AM (XXwdv)

149 chemjeff, if it were me, I'd plant astilbe, Solomon's Seal, some vinca and some miniature daffodils for spring. However, you being a man, I'm going to assume you want something neat and tidy and uniformly low growing.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 09:25 AM (zrlmb)

150 However, you being a man, I'm going to assume you want something neat and tidy and uniformly low growing.

yeah

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 09:26 AM (BBWjt)

151 139 Y-not, I'd like it to be easy to maintain and just not be a bunch of weeds. Awaiting Tammy's suggestion as I have some similar shady areas. One thing we're doing in places that is low maintenance but a helluva a lot of fun (and edible) is establishing mint plants, especially the trailing/not upright types (so iirc peppermint over something like spearmint). It's a perennial that survives our winters and smells so good first thing in the morning when it's damp with dew. Other good hardy naturalizing shade-tolerant plants are cranesbill/wild geranium.

Posted by: Y-not is not Tammy at May 26, 2013 09:27 AM (5H6zj)

152 133 oblig. book:

Right now I am reading Mark Steyn's America Alone (yeah I know, I'm late to the party). It seems a bit repetitive, actually.
 

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 01:21 PM (BBWjt)

 

I liked that book.   It is repetitive.   It seems like just about every book I've read by a conservative author reads like it hasn't been edited or proofread.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at May 26, 2013 09:27 AM (h+OzC)

153 If any of you know someone who has given the ultimate sacrifice, even if it's just a casual acquaintance, the guy you sat next to in chem lab, the kid you played ball with, whatever, try to find the address and write their family. Even if it has been years since you knew them. ESPECIALLY if it has been years. You remember! *** What a terrific idea!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 09:28 AM (piMMO)

154
      Astroturf works well for lawnscaping.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 26, 2013 09:28 AM (SAMxH)

155 Daniel Silva's Gabriel Alon series is an interesting confluence of art, spies, terrorists and politics. Especially the earlier ones. Agreed. Good stuff. For a lighter weight version of the genre (by which I mean no gruesome terrorism or significant cultural issues), I also enjoyed the Art History Mysteries featuring Jonathan Argll and Flavia di Stefano by the English author Iain Pears.

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 26, 2013 09:28 AM (bS6uW)

156 I"m gonna suggest ajuga.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 09:28 AM (zrlmb)

157 Re gardening.... I am a wimp and go for easy-peasy: New Guinea Impatiens in the shade and potted Calliope Geraniums in the sun.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 09:29 AM (piMMO)

158 >>149 I"m gonna suggest ajuga. That's pretty. Does it spread?

Posted by: Y-not is not Tammy at May 26, 2013 09:29 AM (5H6zj)

159 Margarita DeVille, that was a very, very good thing you did by writing to her.  I commend your class and the love that clearly inhabits your heart.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2013 09:30 AM (8+xjO)

160 Y-not, I am not real up on my veggies; it's been a good while since I had a proper vegetable gardens beyond a few mater plants. Hopefully that changes next year! I will say that if the leaf miners aren't completely ruining the chard, I'd just ignore it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 09:31 AM (zrlmb)

161 Jim Thompson... discovered him a few weeks back-- noir writer from the 50's and 60's-- start with "The Killer Inside Me"-- you won't be disappointed-- try some Dave Zeltzerman and Charlie Houston as well--

Posted by: tomc at May 26, 2013 09:32 AM (avEuh)

162 151 >>149 I"m gonna suggest ajuga.

That's pretty. Does it spread?

Posted by: Y-not is not Tammy at May 26, 2013 01:29 PM (5H6zj)


It does.  We have some we brought from one house to the other and it has spread.  It was beautiful this year.  Unfortunately, ours is done for the season.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 26, 2013 09:33 AM (X6akg)

163 I think Pears is the best of the genre.

Posted by: lincolntf at May 26, 2013 09:33 AM (ZshNr)

164 I"m gonna suggest ajuga.

Will it crowd out the other weeds?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 09:34 AM (BBWjt)

165 Other good hardy naturalizing shade-tolerant plants are cranesbill/wild geranium.


Geraniums are quite easy. Just transplant some and they spread.

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2013 09:34 AM (z9HTb)

166 I will say that if the leaf miners aren't completely ruining the chard, I'd just ignore it. --- Yeah, we're kind of doing that now, but I'm wondering if I should pull them. Not sure if they'll attack the broccoli. I usually spend so much time researching before starting a project that I never get started! So this time I decided I'd just plant a bunch of different stuff and see what works. We have 3 super-sunny beds and 2 partially shaded beds. It's a darned good thing I'm not tryign to feed a family of 7 with this enterprise!

Posted by: Y-not is not Tammy at May 26, 2013 09:34 AM (5H6zj)

167 Oh yes ma'am it spreads. It's a fantastic groundcover, always looks tidy. It's a bit promiscuous, but in that area I think a little sluttiness would not be a bad thing. And I'd still throw a few mini daffs in there, because that's just the kinda girl I am. Plus I'd go with some sort of concrete colored stepping stones, maybe those octaganol shaped ones? But seriously cj, take a look at some astilbe, they are lovely and fairly easy maintenance.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 09:35 AM (zrlmb)

168 Mint will beat out any weed, in my experience.

Posted by: Y-not at May 26, 2013 09:35 AM (5H6zj)

169 Vinca, too.

Posted by: Y-not at May 26, 2013 09:36 AM (5H6zj)

170 Why do these turds keep putting Lindsey Graham on T.V. and interviewing him? He's just trying to go a wee bit to the right so he doesn't get primaried. Why in the world does S.C. need him? A republican will win there, so why not nominate a conservative?

Posted by: FooShnicka at May 26, 2013 09:36 AM (R7P0v)

171 Why in the world does S.C. need him? A republican will win there, so why not nominate a conservative? ---- The same damned reason we got stuck with Snorin' Orrin in Utah. Our betters were convinced we needed the seniority for committees. Fat lotta good that did us!

Posted by: Y-not at May 26, 2013 09:38 AM (5H6zj)

172 Okay, to keep this on-topic...these is great (albeit out-of-print) gardening books: Practical Garden of Eden, Fred Hagy ( food as landscaping) The Four Season Landscape, Susan Roth (I have 3 copies of this, absolutely indefensible for me) Lamium might be another good choice, it'd lighten the area up. It's really aggressive, though. And a few Lily of the Valley pips for later spring bloom?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 09:39 AM (zrlmb)

173 Book signing story...


My BiL had served on staff  under a certain General during the first Gulf War. The General wrote a book, and was here in KC doing the book tour thingy.

So my BiL and his best buddy go to this event. As the General is signing my BiL's  book, his buddy leans forward and says "Excuse me General, but Bastard is spelled with one S".

Apparently the General just burst out laughing, altho at the time my BiL didn't think it was very funny.


Posted by: HH at May 26, 2013 09:40 AM (XXwdv)

174 Tami, is ajuga not evergreen in your area? I know it won't bloom steady, but does it stay year-round? I hadn't thought about it being dormant in colder areas. CJ, you wanna be very very careful with mint.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 09:40 AM (zrlmb)

175 This is seriously OT, but if the lovely ladies can talk gardening then I should be able to grab a couple of beers with the guys in the garage to talk sports. Big Thing 1: #1 Vandy plays #2 LSU in the SEC baseball tourney championship at 3:30 CT. The world stops moving at my house when State U is involved in a big game. Big Thing 2: Everett Golson is gone from Notre Dames ?!? Hate to break it to the yankees but the Irish's season just went down the tubes. Major impact loss right there. Wow.

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 26, 2013 09:41 AM (bS6uW)

176

Worst books I've ever read (not necessarily in worst order as all are uniformly bad--as Samuel Johnson said, "There is no point in setting the precedency between a louse and a flea.")

"The Da Vinci Code"--Dan Brown

"American Lion"--Jon Meacham

Anything by Sarah Vowell

 

There are probably more but I'm doing my best to strike them from my memory.

 

\

 

 

Posted by: Libra at May 26, 2013 09:42 AM (q5QAW)

177 Are great, damn it. I was only posting one book at first, and forgot to change my is to are. I swear I know the difference!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 09:43 AM (zrlmb)

178 Tammy, yeah I don't think I am going to do the mint, I know it spreads like crazy

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 09:44 AM (BBWjt)

179 chemjeff, hubby is the gardener in this house.  He suggests a mix of hostas and astilbe.  They're perennials.   Or if you just want ground cover, periwinkle.


Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 26, 2013 09:46 AM (X6akg)

180

I just finished The Passage of Power -- the fourth volume of Robert Caro's LBJ bio. It was very good. While clearly a NY urban liberal who believes that government is generally a force for good, Caro is a fantastic researcher and writer.

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What I find interesting is that Caro criticized both LBJ (and RFK) for their strong arm tactics when they are used against causes Caro believes in (e.g., squashing media stories critical of LBJ; use of criminal justice system to pursue Hoffa and organized labor), yet he turns around and praises those strong arm tactics when they are used to support causes Caro believes in (e.g., public accomodations access, anti-poverty programs). You would think he would begin to question whether it is a good thing for politicians to have too much power -- though I think Caro is clearly obsessed with the concept of political power. I almost wonder if he is an unconscious fascist. He is simply looking for someone to take power and use it for good -- I don't think Caro is a big believer in Lord Acton's theorem -- "power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

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Also just finished reading Evan Currie's Into the Black, the first book in his Odyssey One series. Its free to read for Amazon Prime members. It was fun military space battle science fiction.

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Also just finished listening to the audio book version of The Winter King, a biography of Henry VII by Thomas Penn. I am interested in the Tudor period of English history, but I knew next to nothing about Henry VII, the founding member of the dynasty. I wanted to like the book, but honestly I found it rambled and was hard to follow -- though sometimes I find it hard to maintain my concentration while listenting to more serious books during my morning commute. I am often thinking about many other things (like what I want to eat for lunch). All that having been said, I think liberatarians would like the book -- its pretty critical of both Henry VII using the machinery of the monarchy against his real and perceived political opponents, and his underlings using the power of the royal courts to further their personal wealth and corruption.

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I am currently listening to John Scalzi's The Human Division series from Audible. I disagree with Scalzi's politics, but he tells a good story (and works hard at the business of being a writer). I think most Morons would like the book.

Posted by: nc at May 26, 2013 09:46 AM (fkBVg)

181 TwitchyTeam ‏@TwitchyTeam 4m 'Absolutely awesome': Rolling Thunder honors vets, rolls into DC for Memorial Day [pics, vine video] http://bit.ly/1586qhV

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 09:48 AM (piMMO)

182 Tami, is ajuga not evergreen in your area? I know it won't bloom steady, but does it stay year-round? I hadn't thought about it being dormant in colder areas.


======


It only blooms in the spring.  Dark green in the summer but the spikes shrivel up, or as my husband just said, "like a cold dick in January."

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 26, 2013 09:49 AM (X6akg)

183 This is seriously OT, but if the lovely ladies can talk gardening then I should be able to grab a couple of beers with the guys in the garage to talk sports. *** Yes, but you're talking BASEBALL. You know this is a FOOTBALL blog.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 09:49 AM (piMMO)

184 I disagree with Scalzi's politics I freakin hate it when fiction authors wear their politics on their sleeves. I'm also surprised they're so stupid to do so ... way to alienate half your potential fan base, regardless of which way you lean.

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 26, 2013 09:51 AM (bS6uW)

185 Vinca/periwinkle is a personal fave of mine, but I have to say, I have found that most non-gardening men (Thor and my Daddy being my prime examples) don't care much for viney things. CJ strikes me as the type of man who wants everything neat and tidy and uniform. It'll drive him nuts when it throws a tendril over the stepping stones.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 09:51 AM (zrlmb)

186 168 ---"Big Thing 1: #1 Vandy plays #2 LSU in the SEC baseball tourney championship at 3:30 CT. The world stops moving at my house when State U is involved in a big game. " ----------------- Hope to see that one.....after the ACC finishes up, of course. Unbelievable 18-inning game last night w/ UNC vs NC State.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2013 09:52 AM (C8mVl)

187 This is seriously OT, but if the lovely ladies can talk gardening then I should be able to grab a couple of beers with the guys in the garage to talk sports.


 Don't forget the "Cooking with Dildo" segments.

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2013 09:52 AM (z9HTb)

188 CJ strikes me as the type of man who wants everything neat and tidy and uniform.


Did you just imply that chemjeff is gay?

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2013 09:54 AM (z9HTb)

189 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 01:49 PM (piMMO) LOL! Yes, dear, but what you're obviously not appreciating is that this is SEC baseball. Like SEC football we're talking the real deal here. I wouldn't waste the Horde's time with an update on the lesser conferences.

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 26, 2013 09:54 AM (bS6uW)

190 Rick Atkinson's final book in his Liberation Trilogy, "The Guns at Last Light", came out a couple weeks ago, and if you have the slightest interest in WW2, it's a must read, as were the first two, "An Army at Dawn" and "The Day of Battle".

The series covers the European Theater, and his writing style holds interest with all the tidbits of fascinating facts and anecdotes he incorporates in the narrative, far, far from a dry read. Similar stylistically to Shelby Foote's Civil War series and destined to be a classic as that series is.

Superb, and highly recommended.

Posted by: JHW at May 26, 2013 09:55 AM (B38OD)

191 never heard them being called 'waist gunners' ; door gunners, man.


Our door gunner was 17 in II Corps ; his parents signed off, although 17 ers weren't supposed to be sent to Vietnam.


Incredibly, the Army must have made a personnel mistake

Posted by: Haley Joe Ozboy at May 26, 2013 09:55 AM (omBWL)

192 Hah! We shall see, Blacksheep, we shall see!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2013 09:56 AM (C8mVl)

193 Hostas are great if you don't have deer and/or snail issues and you'll want to read the labels carefully to check for size, which varies from inches wide to several feet. And again, I can't see him wanting to wade through anything to check the heat pump. They are beeeyootiful and can be addictive. Not as addictive as astilbes, of course, but very nice.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 09:56 AM (zrlmb)

194 LOL! Yes, dear, but what you're obviously not appreciating is that this is SEC baseball. Like SEC football we're talking the real deal here. I wouldn't waste the Horde's time with an update on the lesser conferences. *** Ahhhh yeah. I bow to your wisdom.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 09:57 AM (piMMO)

195 Oh hell, no, I find that gay men are a little more open to more natural lines in the garden. Most straight men want everything in neat rows, and a lawn that is barely 1/4 inch tall. Very controlled. Blacksheep, how'd the Aggies do against the Bulldogs?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 09:59 AM (zrlmb)

196

177 -- I freakin hate it when fiction authors wear their politics on their sleeves. I'm also surprised they're so stupid to do so ... way to alienate half your potential fan base, regardless of which way you lean.


I agree --though in fairness to Scalzi, he typically is not overt about his politics in his books. He is overt on his website about it -- and thats his preregorative. I do hate it when writers threw in slaps at southerners, Republicans and evangelicals in their books simply to show their leftist intellectual street cred -- but Scalzi does not really do that.

 

He does make fun of a blowheard radio talk show host in the Human Division -- but the blowhard could be an amalgamation of Limbaugh, Beck, Schultz and Olberman (though I suspect he had Beck and Limbaugh in mind). But again, he is not beating you over the head with politics -- and I think he avoids doing that because he is a good writer. Its really lazy writing to use stock political caricatures.

Posted by: nc at May 26, 2013 09:59 AM (fkBVg)

197 HAH!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2013 09:59 AM (C8mVl)

198 Oh hell, no, I find that gay men are a little more open to more natural lines in the garden.


I see. Well, I do call myself 'fluffy'

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2013 10:01 AM (z9HTb)

199 Posted by: Y-not at May 26, 2013 01:38 PM (5H6zj)

Wife decided to break the rules and turn on Chris Wallace this AM.  Five minutes in with Dicky Durbin and Miss Lindsay, she turned the tube to HGTV.  We both felt we would now see something worth watching.

Lindsay is so slow he couldn't even respond to Durbin's McCarthy era swipe.  Even though not in SC, I think I will contribute to the TP candidate in the SC primary.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2013 10:02 AM (Cnqmv)

200 Posted by: nc at May 26, 2013 01:59 PM (fkBVg)


Boy does Stephen King come to mind. He just can't keep it out of his books.

Posted by: HH at May 26, 2013 10:04 AM (XXwdv)

201 Banned or not, I still feel pretty bad. Thanks for the kind words.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit, but you can just call me Michael at May 26, 2013 10:04 AM (7cS5n)

202 I remember when I first found out you were a dude, fluffy!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 10:05 AM (zrlmb)

203 From The Business Insider:

"Many Swedes were left asking why a country that prides itself on a generous welfare state, liberal social attitudes and a welcoming attitude towards immigrants should ever have race riots in the first place."

Yes, why..., how can  that be?


Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 26, 2013 10:05 AM (aDwsi)

204 We shall see, Blacksheep, we shall see! You know I'm just kidding around. I see you're an ACC fan - I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see either UNC or UVA take the whole thing. Good luck!

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 26, 2013 10:05 AM (bS6uW)

205 186 Hostas are great if you don't have deer and/or snail issues and you'll want to read the labels carefully to check for size, which varies from inches wide to several feet.

And again, I can't see him wanting to wade through anything to check the heat pump.

They are beeeyootiful and can be addictive.

Not as addictive as astilbes, of course, but very nice.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 01:56 PM (zrlmb)


We have a ton of deer and the hostas are about the only thing they DON'T eat. 

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 26, 2013 10:06 AM (X6akg)

206 "Many Swedes were left asking why a country that prides itself on a generous welfare state, liberal social attitudes and a welcoming attitude towards immigrants should ever have race riots in the first place." Yes, why..., how can that be? Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 26, 2013 02:05 PM If they will just look into a mirror they we see their nasty, Scandi whiteness.

Posted by: Whistleblower Karen Hudes at May 26, 2013 10:08 AM (MhA4j)

207 Tammy, my wife is the gardener. I describe myself as 'the guy with the shovel'

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2013 10:08 AM (z9HTb)

208 197 ---"You know I'm just kidding around. I see you're an ACC fan - I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see either UNC or UVA take the whole thing. Good luck!" Posted by: Blacksheep at May 26, 2013 02:05 PM (bS6uW) --------------------- Good luck to the SEC too! The main thing is that we Southerners smack the snot out of those damn Californians and Pacific coasters!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2013 10:10 AM (C8mVl)

209 OMG, Tami, redneck deer FEAST on them. I dug up some of the real common ones, (huge, with those big white flowers that smell so pretty in August?) to plant at our place in Arkansas and they were chewed off to the ground before they got 4 inches tall. Maybe there wasn't anything else for them to eat? They haven't touched my lilies, but those are fairly close to the house.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 10:10 AM (zrlmb)

210 Blacksheep, how'd the Aggies do against the Bulldogs? MSU beat the Aggies 6-4, who then went on to lose their knock-out rematch with Vandy. Vandy then beat MSU to get into the championship from their side, while LSU knocked out the Hogs to get in from theirs. My wife has already fled the jurisdiction knowing what's to come this afternoon.

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 26, 2013 10:12 AM (bS6uW)

211 Good luck to the SEC too! The main thing is that we Southerners smack the snot out of those damn Californians and Pacific coasters! Amen to that.

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 26, 2013 10:13 AM (bS6uW)

212 gaming thing is up

Posted by: The Dude at May 26, 2013 10:13 AM (vJdyz)

213 Lets face it WWII was plain brutal to everyone.  Victor, villain, and innocent.

In occupied Holland the 'Hungerwinter' set in as the Germans denied the civilians food in reprisal for Operation Market Garden.  They were reduced to eating grass and even their cats to keep living.

"Bombers of the Royal Air Force have just taken off from their bases in England to drop food supplies to the Dutch population in enemy-occupied territory” announced the BBC on 29 April, 1945.

Between April 29th and May 8th 1945, the RAF and USAAF, delivered by bombers, more than 10,000 tons of food to the starving population of Holland.

http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/aerialcampaigns/p/manna.htm

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 10:13 AM (HdtPo)

214 Tammy, my wife is the gardener. I describe myself as 'the guy with the shovel True Hero Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2013 02:08 PM (z9HTb) FIFY. There are NO gardens without The Guys with the Shovels. Thor gets more he...... appreciation when he digs my flowerbeds than almost any other time!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 10:14 AM (zrlmb)

215 LOL!  Redneck deer!


We have those large ones with the white flowers too....probably 30 - 40 of them, maybe more.  They're never touched....but there are lots of other things to eat so maybe our deer view them as fast food and are eating the gourmet stuff.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 26, 2013 10:14 AM (X6akg)

216 Sabrina,
Did you ever finish "A Flowershop in Baghdad"?
Am interested in your thoughts, for good or ill.

If you could drop me a note at my website, so we don't pollute the pristine AoS.

And everyone knows you don't get a combat device for smart-assedness.
Its documented on your OPR.
or in my case, a Letter of Counseling.
heh


Posted by: MikeB A Flowershop in Baghdad at May 26, 2013 10:16 AM (8Ik17)

217 Posted by: Blacksheep at May 26, 2013 02:12 PM (bS6uW) Damn it I was pulling for MSU. And of course I am officially in Razorback territory now, and have an innate dislike for LSU made worse by a bad encounter with the most obnoxious fans I have ever encountered, so I was hoping Arkansas would take them out.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 10:17 AM (zrlmb)

218 We have those large ones with the white flowers too....probably 30 - 40 of them, maybe more. Posted by: Tami at May 26, 2013 02:14 PM (X6akg) I am officially inviting myself to your house in August! If the darn deer would wait and eat 'em after the flowers bloom, I wouldn't begrudge it! Have you ever grown Solomon's Seal? LOVE LOVE LOVE that.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 10:19 AM (zrlmb)

219 I am officially inviting myself to your house in August!


If the darn deer would wait and eat 'em after the flowers bloom, I wouldn't begrudge it!

Have you ever grown Solomon's Seal? LOVE LOVE LOVE that.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 02:19 PM (zrlmb)


And you would be more than welcome, but if everything goes well, we will be moving in late July/early August.  Heading back to Missouri after a 30 year hiatus.


I will have to ask my husband....I wouldn't know Solomon's Seal if I fell over it.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 26, 2013 10:23 AM (X6akg)

220 Gardening? Hell, all I do is spend time trying to get rid of the weeds, honeysuckle, and bermuda grass.

As an aside, a quisling from our local Progressive City Council rang my doorbell a couple of weeks ago, and informed me that the row of 15 Hemlocks, which I planted 13 years ago, and which I have nurtured ever since, would have to be cut down. Some anonymous person called and complained that this person's visibility to oncoming drivers was restricted if they were walking on my side of the road (there's no sidewalk).

The city (hereafter referred to as asshole idiots, AI) agreed with me that it was easily possible to walk on the other side, or take another route, but demanded that I cut the trees anyhow, because even though the trees were on my property, they were also on the right-of-way, and if something *did* happen, the AI, having received a complaint, would be liable. I was (still am) pissed. Oh, and of course, the burden of cutting the trees, and hauling debris, was mine.

 

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 26, 2013 10:24 AM (aDwsi)

221 Reading Rick Atkinson too.   Not as impressed with this volume, The Guns At Last Light, re WWII from Normandy to V-E Day, as I was with The Day of Battle (Sicily and Italy) and An Army at Dawn (North Africa).   Perhaps that's because this story is so much more familiar to me:   D-Day, the hedgerow country, the breakout, the liberation of Paris, Market Garden, the Hurtgen Forest, the Battle of the Bulge, etc.   Lots of great stories but stories I've heard forever.   But Atkinson is always very very good, and the trilogy as a whole has been great, particularly now as the greatest generation passes away and fades more and more into the past.

Posted by: The Regular Guy at May 26, 2013 10:25 AM (nov+8)

222 "In occupied Holland the 'Hungerwinter' set in as the Germans Democratic Socialists denied the civilians food in reprisal for Operation Market Garden. They were reduced to eating grass and even their cats to keep living."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 26, 2013 10:26 AM (aDwsi)

223 Mike, put the cat back on the keyboard.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 10:28 AM (HdtPo)

224 Gardening? Hell, all I do is spend time trying to get rid of the weeds, honeysuckle, and bermuda grass. *** One of my favorite scents in all of life is that of the Honeysuckle.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 10:28 AM (piMMO)

225 There are NO gardens without The Guys with the Shovels.

Thor gets more he...... appreciation when he digs my flowerbeds than almost any other time!



Appreciation is often in the form of a request to move a shrub again ;-b

Posted by: fluffy at May 26, 2013 10:29 AM (z9HTb)

226 In more book related news. this coming weekend at Dallas is Project A-kon.  The authors Elizabeth Moon, Esther Friesner, Lee Martindale, and Robin Wayne Bailey will be there.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 10:32 AM (HdtPo)

227 Has anyone here read any of Adm. Stockdale's books (or books about him) ? If so, which would you recommend I read first?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 10:35 AM (piMMO)

228 Jeez, Mike, that is awful. Tami, Missouri is an awesome place to return to! I lived in West Plains for a while and am only 20 miles south of the border of that fine state.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 10:36 AM (zrlmb)

229 Oh, and of course, the burden of cutting the trees, and hauling debris, was mine.


Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 26, 2013 02:24 PM (aDwsi)


Of course, citizen, the right and privilege of maintaining your property belongs to you (as specified by your fellow citizens)!



Funny, but I never thought of the word citizen as threatening until recently!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2013 10:37 AM (Cnqmv)

230 Okay, I went out and tidied up a bit, noticed that it wasn't all weeds out there, some of it actually was ground cover.  so I will just leave that there.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 10:38 AM (BBWjt)

231 NDH, is he the guy that ran with Perot?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 10:40 AM (zrlmb)

232 chemjeff, if there's enough of it, you can probably divide it and spread it around.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 10:41 AM (zrlmb)

233 NDH, is he the guy that ran with Perot? *** Yes. A true, honest-to-God, born in the flesh, American hero.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 10:41 AM (piMMO)

234 James Stockdale was the senior officer of the American POWs at the Hanoi Hilton.  Did almost an eight year sentence in that hell.  And yes he was the guy who ran with Perot who said 'What am I doing here?'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 10:43 AM (HdtPo)

235 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 02:40 PM (zrlmb)

ADM Stockdale ran with Perot.  Stockdale was an incredible man and officer, in the "how do we get such men" category. 

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 26, 2013 10:44 AM (Cnqmv)

236 Yeah it would be nice if it was all neat and tidy, but mainly I'm lazy

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 10:45 AM (BBWjt)

237 Yeah it would be nice if it was all neat and tidy, but mainly I'm lazy *** I have Blackberry vines taking over in two places and it's too hot, and I'm too lazy, to go out and pull them up.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 10:46 AM (piMMO)

238 Massive but worth it: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/njypnqb>50 Days of War and Peace, or Why Harry Truman Dropped the Bomb</a>.  Incredibly detailed and sourced account of the final days of WWII, by a Normandy Beach vet.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 26, 2013 10:47 AM (qvify)

239 I have Blackberry vines taking over in two places and it's too hot, and I'm too lazy, to go out and pull them up.

No kidding.  It is already quite humid out there.  I didn't even do all that much work and I was still sweating.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 10:47 AM (BBWjt)

240 Wait until after you pick the berries before tearing up the vines NDH. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 10:48 AM (HdtPo)

241 Massive but worth it: http://tinyurl.com/njypnqb 50 Days of War and Peace, or Why Harry Truman Dropped the Bomb. Incredibly detailed and sourced account of the final days of WWII, by a Normandy Beach vet.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 26, 2013 10:48 AM (qvify)

242 Tami, Missouri is an awesome place to return to! I lived in West Plains for a while and am only 20 miles south of the border of that fine state.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 02:36 PM (zrlmb)


Ah....we'll be almost neighbors!  We may end up in the Farmington area.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 26, 2013 10:50 AM (X6akg)

243 Tearjerker Warning: PBS airing 'D-Day: The Price of Freedom' at 2pm. Synopsis: 5 veterans of the Normandy Invasion return for the 1st time

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 10:50 AM (piMMO)

244 This Kind of War .After we developed nukes and SAC, apparently we weren't going to need grunts anymore. Until Kim Jung Il's Mama's Mama's baby daddy decided to take the Korean Peninsula. Terrific description of America losing early and then turning it around.

Posted by: motionview at May 26, 2013 10:50 AM (6Tbb5)

245 Wait until after you pick the berries before tearing up the vines NDH. *** Already done!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 10:51 AM (piMMO)

246 >>>Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 26, 2013 02:24 PM (aDwsi)

I know it seems annoying now, but they may have done you a favor by making you get rid of the trees when they were still relatively small.  Depending on which part of the country you live in, hemlocks vary from being merely annoying to downright dangerous when they get larger.

They can rot unpredictably from the inside out, and once they start to die have an annoying  tendency to snap off near the top, creating a 6-10 foot spear coming straight down, or will just whimsically drop a 4-inch branch at random.  Either way they can absolutely ruin the day of someone who happens to be underneath (or even just near) them at the time.

Nobody is making me do it but every couple of years I have a tree service come in and fell 5-6 mature (i.e. 50-70 foot tall) hemlocks. The threat to the main house has been mostly eliminated, and in another 6 years or so I think the garage will be safe as well. 




Posted by: TH at May 26, 2013 10:51 AM (tcvYF)

247 I'm guessing that this is now as close to an open thread as we're going to gt for a while.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 26, 2013 10:52 AM (piMMO)

248 Looks like the Indy 500 is going to finish under caution.  That sucks.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 26, 2013 10:57 AM (BBWjt)

249 Where's this guy Kannan from?

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 26, 2013 11:00 AM (hC80d)

250 He's from Brazil, but I think he's Lebanese.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 11:02 AM (zrlmb)

251 Braz-banese?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 26, 2013 11:03 AM (HdtPo)

252 I remember when this    used to be an American sport.

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 26, 2013 11:03 AM (hC80d)

253 Lebazillian?

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 26, 2013 11:04 AM (hC80d)

254 LOL, Lebazillian! I remember when he got into it with Hector. I dunno, the Indy's been furrin for a looong time. It's based on Formula One, no? Yankees and furriners infiltrating NASCAR, now, THAT'S an issue!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 11:07 AM (zrlmb)

255 Awesome story about that charm, damn. And he was so tender with that little baby.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 11:15 AM (zrlmb)

256 Oh, here y'all are . . . the gaming thread is, as usual, en fuego.

Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2013 11:17 AM (8lmkt)

257 Peaches! Enjoying your 4 day? I like the gaming thread, but know ZIP about it. They just tickle me with how in to it they get, I wish more would comment.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 11:19 AM (zrlmb)

258 Oh, speaking of books, I just picked up the new Brad Thor at Target this morning (paperback, I can't read the hard cover versions, too difficult to hold).  Black List.  Can't wait!!

Posted by: Peaches at May 26, 2013 11:19 AM (8lmkt)

259 Just got in off the road from weekend trip down to GA.  I am finishing up the two books (re-read) of the Shadow of the Lion series by Mercedes Lackey, Eric Flint, and Dave Freer.  Excellent books.  I have a new Sabrina Chase in waiting.



Also, checked out Amazon and they are running a sale on classics they had a bunch of Hemingway and others.  I downloaded Gone With The Wind.  My wife has it in paperback but I have never got around to reading it.  Since it was there for the Kindle for only $1.99 I went ahead and got it.

Posted by: Vic at May 26, 2013 11:28 AM (lZvxr)

260 57 I was posting as Beagle at the lefty Straight Dope in 2004 *waves* Hi Beagle! Small world, huh?

Posted by: Weirddave at May 26, 2013 11:30 AM (aH+zP)

261 Vic, I re-read GWTW a few years ago, and found it a little worse for the passing of time, lol. Looking forward to hearing your take on it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 11:35 AM (zrlmb)

262 regarding The Arcade Experience:

I believe that the description at Amazon should read "bowling alley", not "bowling ally" as it is currently.  ally vs. alley

:wq!

Posted by: Insert Clever Name Here at May 26, 2013 11:39 AM (SS8WM)

263 Looking forward to hearing your take on it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 03:35 PM (zrlmb)


Amazing that here I am a Son of the South and have never read it.  I always considered it a "chick book" and more like a soap opera but for $1.99 I will give it a shot.

Posted by: Vic at May 26, 2013 11:45 AM (lZvxr)

264 Vic, I definitely found it to be very chickish and soap-opera-y upon re-reading it as a grown woman. Loved it as a junior high miss, though. It's a great story (even if it didn't age well), but even as a jr high miss I never found her attraction for Ashley to be believable.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 26, 2013 11:57 AM (zrlmb)

265 Iraq is 10 years past and it STILL is a hot mess. The big winner was Iran, we got rid of their worst enemy and now the new Iraqi government is best friends with Iran . The big losers were the Christians, 50% of the population was forced to leave and go to a safer (?) place mostly Syria ! and Jordan. This is much worse than inn any of the countries the USA liberated in WW II

Posted by: occam at May 26, 2013 12:49 PM (DAHhf)

266 I read "A Long Way Gone" a few years back.  Excellent, excellent book, and highly recommended--  It is, in a a way, very much like "Aquariums of Pyongyang" in that the reality of what these kids had to go through is so unbelievably horrible that the mind almost wants to pretend it isn't real.

Posted by: Taft at May 26, 2013 02:40 PM (d2FFC)

267 I'm late to the commenting party here but many thanks for posting about my book, The Arcade Experience!

Posted by: Arcadehero at May 27, 2013 08:18 AM (27BfC)

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