February 05, 2014

Surprise! Obamacare Causing Problems At The Doctor's Office
— Open Blogger

If only someone, or an entire political party, had warned the citizenry that this was coming. If only...

Aliso Viejo resident Danielle Nelson said Anthem Blue Cross promised half a dozen times that her oncologists would be covered under her new policy. She was diagnosed last year with non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and discovered a suspicious lump near her jaw in early January.

But when she went to her oncologist's office, she promptly encountered a bright orange sign saying that Covered California plans are not accepted.

"I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said. "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen."

To hold down premiums under the healthcare law, major insurers have sharply cut the number of doctors and hospitals available to patients in the state's new health insurance market.

When asked about this Obama said:

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1 Wow, what a shame for the lady/

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 05, 2014 08:33 AM (R8hU8)

2 I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen." ------ That's funny. She thinks he actually cares.

Posted by: Adam at February 05, 2014 08:33 AM (Aif/5)

3 I'll go get the others

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 05, 2014 08:33 AM (+hPIb)

4 I'm sooooo ready!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 05, 2014 08:33 AM (GjPnA)

5 Hmmm...Obamacare is causing problems at the doctors office
Who could have seen that coming?

Posted by: jrg at February 05, 2014 08:33 AM (61B4w)

6 Oh no.  Another thread devoted to Danielle Nelson's stupidity.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 05, 2014 08:33 AM (8ZskC)

7 I didn't know.  For realz-ov.

Posted by: Comrade Stalin at February 05, 2014 08:34 AM (BrQrN)

8 Unexpectedly!

Posted by: chiefjaybob at February 05, 2014 08:34 AM (8o/E8)

9 If you like your doctor, you will blow me.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at February 05, 2014 08:34 AM (8ZskC)

10 Oh well. Suck it.

Posted by: NCKate at February 05, 2014 08:34 AM (K/OhM)

11 It's an All-BenK kind of day!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2014 08:35 AM (DmNpO)

12 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said. "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen."


Elections have consequences.  Your life is one of them, idiot.

Posted by: kathysaysso at February 05, 2014 08:35 AM (6H6o8)

13

I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night

 

In Soviet Russia, Affordable Care Act sleeps with you!  In the buttinski! 

Posted by: Comrade Stalin at February 05, 2014 08:35 AM (BrQrN)

14 It's interesting how many of these types of stories are coming out of California. Like the guy that said that he loves Obamacare, he just didn't know that he would be the one paying for it. Likewise, Nelson just loves Obamacare, she just didn't know that she would be the one paying for it.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 05, 2014 08:35 AM (W2YA6)

15 But when she went to her oncologist's office, she promptly encountered a bright orange sign saying that Covered California plans are not accepted.


*sad trombone*

http://www.sadtrombone.com/

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 05, 2014 08:36 AM (8ZskC)

16 You know what it's called when a company promises consumers x and then oh hey sorry oops nope it's not x?


Fraud.   There's, like, an entire protection agency for consumers set up to prevent this shit.

Next up will be doctors must accept Obamacare policies and then the 13th Amendment suits will hit the fan.


Good times, good times. 

Posted by: alexthechick - We besearch thee of great SMOD at February 05, 2014 08:36 AM (Gk3SS)

17 Psst lady, let me let you in on something: the government doesn't care about you. And that goes double for Obama.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at February 05, 2014 08:36 AM (WbOdn)

18 She can still see her doctor, but she has to pay for it herself. 

Isn't this exactly what she voted for?  Elections have consequences, right?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 05, 2014 08:36 AM (fwARV)

19 You fucked up, you trusted us.

Posted by: Dems at February 05, 2014 08:36 AM (Djwm9)

20 Can we get a post about the bitches in Philly getting purse snatched and wondering where all the men are that should be protecting them? Uh, they're robbing your ass, FYI.

Posted by: NCKate at February 05, 2014 08:36 AM (K/OhM)

21 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 08:37 AM (PYAXX)

22 It's called "The Flounder Principle".

Posted by: OCBill at February 05, 2014 08:37 AM (rFipM)

23 I do recall that in 1993-94 one of the ways HillaryCare was going to save money was by reducing the number of specialists. Good ideas never die.

Posted by: mallfly at February 05, 2014 08:37 AM (bJm7W)

24 I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act Huh. Weird. My sympathy meter just pegged zero. It must be broken.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 08:37 AM (PYAXX)

25 It's difficult not to point and smirk at this dumb bunny's misfortune, but anecdotes like this are the tip of the iceberg that is our nation's death by Obamacide. We. Are. Fucked.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 05, 2014 08:38 AM (LIQGY)

26 If only Comrade Stalin knew, he'd surely put a stop to this!

Posted by: Warden at February 05, 2014 08:38 AM (NcbEv)

27 In Soviet America, doctor change YOU.

Posted by: Yakov Smirnov at February 05, 2014 08:38 AM (8ZskC)

28 She's a complete fan...of something she had no clue about and no idea how this entire mess was likely to unfold, now or in the future, despite what Anthem was telling her.  No idea how thousands of doctors want no part of this nightmare.  And it's just beginning.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 05, 2014 08:38 AM (Oa7B2)

29 Your move, senator Cruz.

Posted by: Mr. Powerstroke Super Duty 4X4 King Ranch Edition at February 05, 2014 08:38 AM (LSJmV)

30 Dumbass loved her some Obamacare. I'm tired of dumb people not getting that adding millions to a system was going to cost more (a lot more), make waits longer, that not every treatment was covered and that it was not "free." And what kind of idiot are you that you don't get that if the number of doctors stays the same or is reduced, but more patients are added to the system, you have to wait a hell of a lot longer.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 05, 2014 08:38 AM (A98Xu)

31 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said. "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen." Fan of free healthcare finds out how much it costs, film at 11.

Posted by: --- at February 05, 2014 08:38 AM (MMC8r)

32 Poor cancer patient, read my nic. Suck it honey, TFG knew it would happen & worse. Sucks to be you. I no longer have pity on the livs

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2014 08:39 AM (HVff2)

33

If only Czar Barack Obama knew!!!

 

Barack cares about me and would fix these problems.

Posted by: deluded democrat douchebag at February 05, 2014 08:39 AM (D+lxs)

34 PITY ME!!




And pay my doctor bills!

And gimme your wallet.



And a sammich.


No, ALL the sammiches.

Posted by: LIV #4679671 at February 05, 2014 08:39 AM (5ikDv)

35

I believe in  a simple change in terms. 

 

It's not health care, it's health control.

 

Your government is inflicting health control on your lives.  We'll see how that turns out.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2014 08:39 AM (TOk1P)

36 Sounds like she's got a colo-cranial condition as well.

Posted by: --- at February 05, 2014 08:39 AM (MMC8r)

37 ""I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night,""

FUCK OFF YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCH!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 05, 2014 08:39 AM (0LHZx)

38 Hmmm, cutting doctors who treat really expensive diseases or conditions sure would be a way to reduce costs.  Is this what's happening?  Or are Obamacare insurance companies required to include doctors (hospitals, etc.) that cover every conceivable condition?

Posted by: Mayday at February 05, 2014 08:40 AM (eHc+1)

39 Since we now have a whole thread on this story, I'll repeat why I said in the dump: “I’m a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can’t sleep at night,” Nelson said. “I can’t imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen.” This is what slays me. These mouthbreathing museum grade morons actually believe "Obama cares about me" and conversely "Romney doesn't care about anything but his own money". Look at polling, "cares about me" was the ONLY metric that Obama won with the electorate, and he won 80%-20%. This, right here, is the effect of a MSM that's really a propaganda department. It's breathtaking in it's audacity and in its absolute 180 degree reversal of reality, anyone who took even a cursory look at the history of these two men quickly realized that Obama never, ever cared for anyone except himself, and Romney lived his life with a servant's heart. News flash Danielle, sweety, Obama doesn't give even a shit to what happens to you. If it came down to a choice between second helpings of wagyu beef for him or your chemotherapy to save your life, not only would he not have any second thoughts, you wouldn't merit a first one, or any thought at all. He'll have his medium rare.

Posted by: Weirddave at February 05, 2014 08:40 AM (N/cFh)

40 Release me.

Posted by: Schadenboner at February 05, 2014 08:40 AM (BrQrN)

41 "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen." Just an eerie reminder of the thousands upon thousands of letters that people sent to Stalin explaining why their spouse/child/associate should be freed from the Gulags. If only dear leader understood the situation, he would never have let this happen.

Posted by: Croaker at February 05, 2014 08:40 AM (FxV4W)

42 There's no cure for dumb.

Posted by: Oscar Meyer at February 05, 2014 08:40 AM (HPNED)

43 I wonder if she's a complete fan of dying now

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 05, 2014 08:40 AM (GDtEt)

44 Don't worry, sweetie. On your deathbed you'll still be able to look back on how cool it was to vote for a black guy.

Posted by: Warden at February 05, 2014 08:40 AM (bmp0d)

45 But enough about this! Time for the GOP to focus on legalizing illegal immigrants!

Posted by: The Chamber Of Commerce at February 05, 2014 08:41 AM (QgAFR)

46 I'll repeat what I've been saying: The Ocare shit will not really hit the fan until women lose their trusted OB-GYN and have to start going to some guy who likely wipes his ass with a bare left hand. Shit status will be oh so real.

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 05, 2014 08:41 AM (LSJmV)

47 Next up will be doctors must accept Obamacare policies and then the 13th Amendment suits will hit the fan. Not a Dr. Issue. The terminology is all screwed up. Doctor's don't "accept" insurance- they "contract" (or not) with insurance. It's not that the Dr. chose not to accept BCBS- it's that BCBS chose not to accept the Doctor. She can still see her Dr. It'll just be an out-of-network visit, meaning it applies to a higher deductible (usually) and has a higher patient share once the deductible is met. Oh, and the doctor can bill her for any amount billed over the "allowable amount."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 08:41 AM (PYAXX)

48 The news media will lose interest in this kind of story very soon; then the problem will disappear.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 05, 2014 08:41 AM (l3vZN)

49 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said. "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen."

Oh. My. GAWD!!

You honestly think the JEF gives a dead rat's ass about you and your problems AFTER he had your vote?  You're of no more use to him now than a broken golf tee is.

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 05, 2014 08:41 AM (OtQXp)

50 26 If only Comrade Stalin knew, he'd surely put a stop to this!
=========
Even after the burning, there's going to be a big chunk of them running around with nostalgia for these days upcoming, like the Russians from the ONT.

AoSHQ, where it's never too early to start drinking. Heavily.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 05, 2014 08:41 AM (VjL9S)

51 42 There's no cure for dumb. Posted by: Oscar Meyer at February 05, 2014 12:40 PM (HPNED) Death is a cure for dumb.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 05, 2014 08:41 AM (LIQGY)

52 The loyalist that were thrown into the Gulags were certain that Stalin didn't know either.

Posted by: deepred at February 05, 2014 08:41 AM (RHYM4)

53 44 Don't worry, sweetie. On your deathbed you'll still be able to look back on how cool it was to vote for a black guy. Posted by: Warden at February 05, 2014 12:40 PM (bmp0d) Nailed it.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 05, 2014 08:42 AM (A98Xu)

54 News flash Danielle, sweety, Obama doesn't give even a shit to what happens to you.


People who think politicians "care about them" or SHOULD HAVE TO "care about them" are beyond hope.  They're imbeciles.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 05, 2014 08:42 AM (8ZskC)

55 Don't worry, sweetie. On your deathbed you'll still be able to look back on how cool it was to vote for a black guy. Every corpse gets a free t-shirt.

Posted by: --- at February 05, 2014 08:42 AM (MMC8r)

56 Or are Obamacare insurance companies required to include doctors (hospitals, etc.) that cover every conceivable condition? They probably have to include providers who can care for every (major) conceivable condition- but they can include as few of those as they want to keep costs down.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 08:43 AM (PYAXX)

57 50 26 If only Comrade Stalin knew, he'd surely put a stop to this! ========= Even after the burning, there's going to be a big chunk of them running around with nostalgia for these days upcoming, like the Russians from the ONT. AoSHQ, where it's never too early to start drinking. Heavily. Posted by: RoyalOil at February 05, 2014 12:41 PM (VjL9S) I got the drinking heavily part down already...viva cheap whisky!

Posted by: model_1066 at February 05, 2014 08:43 AM (LIQGY)

58 Danielle Nelson, I dub thee ... CancerBitch.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 05, 2014 08:43 AM (/+JlE)

59 The best part is how she dares not speak ill of obama jong un.

Posted by: Soothsayer and the Cult Jam at February 05, 2014 08:44 AM (iwCB8)

60 Well Bless your heart, lady, no need to worry your little diseased head! WH spokesman Carney just said last week that you can still see your oncologist, you'll just have to PAY MORE! So see, this IS how Dear Leader wanted it, so you can rest easy now.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at February 05, 2014 08:44 AM (9ek7+)

61

Reminds me of the Monty Python sketch

where the minister has the No Claims Policy

which can be pretty worth while as long as he never makes a claim (says the insurance salesman)

 

http://tinyurl.com/pvy4wsj


 

Posted by: McCool at February 05, 2014 08:44 AM (nCSwS)

62 But teh stoopid Sarah Palin said she could see Alaska from her house, right, sugar tits?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 05, 2014 08:44 AM (zF6Iw)

63 If you like your cancer, you can keep your cancer.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at February 05, 2014 08:44 AM (tv7DV)

64 kimbama jung il?

Posted by: Soothsayer and the Cult Jam at February 05, 2014 08:44 AM (iwCB8)

65 58 Danielle Nelson, I dub thee ... CancerBitch. Posted by: ScoggDog at February 05, 2014 12:43 PM (/+JlE) Stupid Cancerbitch

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 05, 2014 08:44 AM (HVff2)

66 No problem - we will force doctors to treat ObamaCare patients! At gunpoint, if necessary.

Posted by: Josef V. Stalin at February 05, 2014 08:44 AM (QgAFR)

67 She can still see her doctor, but she has to pay for it herself.

Isn't this exactly what she voted for? Elections have consequences, right? Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 05, 2014 12:36 PM (fwARV)

Pay for it herself?   What kind of monster are you!


I mean, you're acting as if she'd have to pay something towards, say, a deductible, a very very large deductible, before her coverage would begin or something even if the doctor took her insurance.   That's just crazy talk.

Posted by: alexthechick - We besearch thee of great SMOD at February 05, 2014 08:44 AM (Gk3SS)

68 hugobama jung ilstro

Posted by: Soothsayer and the Cult Jam at February 05, 2014 08:45 AM (iwCB8)

69 Wait a sec We may be too judgemental What does this chick look like?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 05, 2014 08:45 AM (GDtEt)

70 The truly sad part is, if Obama ran again in 2016 this stupid fucking cunt would slap an Obama sticker on her Prius and enthusiastically vote for him.

So once again....FUCK OFF YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCH.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 05, 2014 08:45 AM (0LHZx)

71 Obama's War on Cancer Patients should be the meme for a week.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 08:45 AM (ZshNr)

72 #ItsByChoice that she is no longer seeing her doctor. Nobody said she can't pay for it out of her own pocket. Right? CHOICES! POTUS gives us CHOICES!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 05, 2014 08:45 AM (DmNpO)

73 We besearch thee of great SMOD at OT- what is "besearch?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 08:45 AM (PYAXX)

74 Enlightenment has a body count, honey.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 05, 2014 08:46 AM (8ZskC)

75 What does this chick look like? Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 05, 2014 12:45 PM (GDtEt) No way are her elbows pointy enough. This level of stupid makes you look ugly, too.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 08:46 AM (PYAXX)

76

55 -

 

Hold on a sec... that guy over there got buried in  a suit, in a $15,000 coffin, with real cloth lining!  I got a pine box.

 

Is this fair? 

 

Time for deathcare reform. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 05, 2014 08:46 AM (TOk1P)

77 40 Release me.

Posted by: Schadenboner at February 05, 2014 12:40 PM (BrQrN)

But erections have consequences!

Posted by: Dems at February 05, 2014 08:46 AM (Djwm9)

78 Obama's War on Cancer Patients should be the meme for a week.


Too late.  We've got "High School Valedictorians Living In The Shadows" running all next month.

Posted by: The GOP at February 05, 2014 08:47 AM (8ZskC)

79 Yet another victim of Romney's Republican cancer rays.

Posted by: the MFM at February 05, 2014 08:47 AM (5ikDv)

80 Need a ruling from Alex ... Has CancerBitch achieved Cuntling status, or simply the lower rank of Mewling Quim ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 05, 2014 08:47 AM (/+JlE)

81 Sad.

However, a quick FB search shows the poor, misguided lady still has BHO among her likes.

The stupid. It burns.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 05, 2014 08:47 AM (gHDMy)

82 Elections have consequences.

In this bitch's case, deadly ones.

TOUGH. SHIT.

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at February 05, 2014 08:47 AM (wtvvX)

83 Hell, even if you don't like your cancer you can keep your cancer.  See how generous I am?

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at February 05, 2014 08:48 AM (tv7DV)

84 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said. "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen."

Ha, ha!  It couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

Posted by: Greg Q at February 05, 2014 08:48 AM (4Pleu)

85 Anyone who has social media contacts constantly sporting the Komen pink ribbon on everything should be busy coming up with a "Beat Obamacare" ribbon.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 08:48 AM (ZshNr)

86 75. This level of stupid makes you look ugly, too. Good point Oh well, worms gotta eat too I guess

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 05, 2014 08:48 AM (GDtEt)

87 Unfortunately unlike Bill Clinton he doesn't "feel your pain."  Yeah right Bill, but he'd happily feel anything else he could get his hands on.

Posted by: georgeofthedesert at February 05, 2014 08:48 AM (Eq2MX)

88 I gotta go swing a hammer now...i'll imagine every swing will be the one that shatters the skull of TFG. Suck it, NSA.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 05, 2014 08:48 AM (LIQGY)

89 But hey, FREE ABORTIONS WHILE THEY LAST!!!!

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at February 05, 2014 08:48 AM (wtvvX)

90 This thread will end in tears.

Posted by: Soothsayer and the Cult Jam at February 05, 2014 08:48 AM (iwCB8)

91 A FB acquaintance posted last week an article from MSDNC about the o'cide problem cases being exaggerated and ‘horror cases’ falling apart after scrutiny. I almost replied to congratulate him on using the exception to prove the rule, but that would be expecting self-awareness from a moonbat. Rather I just smile and await the impending death of society, after which I will personally make my feelings known to said prior acquaintance

Posted by: nuke it from orbit at February 05, 2014 08:48 AM (dpccS)

92

From previous thread: 374 "Doesn't justify wishing death on someone, but it certainly puts things in perspective."

 

I disagree. While I would not wish suffering for an enemy except in the most extreme circumstances, such as child molesters and other sorts of depraved, I find nothing wrong in wishing the death of my enemies.

 

Notice I said enemies and not opponent. It is fine to have a political disagreement. Such would fall into the category of opponent.

 

But I can only call someone who seeks to enslave and or kill my children an enemy. And I most fervently would wish death upon them so that my family may survive.

 

So how else should I see the leftists who seek to place the yolk of slavery upon my children and threaten their very survival as anything but an enemy? Should I not wish an enemy to die before they kill my children?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 05, 2014 08:49 AM (v6cwT)

93
Danielle Nelson is "a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act," and coincidentally, an ignorant slut!

Danielle was elated when she thought some other working slub was paying for her care, but is now less than enthusiastic when she's required to pay for her own care. 

She should consider purchasing Velvet Jones book "So You Wants to be a Ho" and learn the finer points of flat-backing to pay the bills.  It's only fair!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at February 05, 2014 08:49 AM (nQjHM)

94

Nasty stuff. I feel for her and others in this situation, even though I can't help but think about how many of the very people now suffering blindly voted this guy in and gave the Dems the power to enact this.

 

I did not realize how quickly it would all go bad, but it did not take rocket science to see where it would head at some point.

 

 And I wonder if anyone remembers several years ago, of Obama's ACA "Czar" saying bluntly that anyone who did not realize the act would be a significant income transfer plan had not been paying attention. I thought that was a pretty huge admission, but I guess it's gone down the Ministry of Truth's memory hole. Never heard of it again, wiped clean.

Posted by: RM at February 05, 2014 08:49 AM (fRppw)

95 Time for deathcare reform. The usual solution in times like this is mass graves.

Posted by: --- at February 05, 2014 08:49 AM (MMC8r)

96 >>It's interesting how many of these types of stories are coming out of California. Take a look at what the voters of California have done to one of the most prosperous places on the planet and all becomes clear.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 05, 2014 08:49 AM (g1DWB)

97 If only Comrade Stalin knew what was happening to us in these camps.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 05, 2014 08:49 AM (V70Uh)

98 It's not that the Dr. chose not to accept BCBS- it's that BCBS chose not to accept the Doctor.

She can still see her Dr. It'll just be an out-of-network visit, meaning it applies to a higher deductible (usually) and has a higher patient share once the deductible is met.

Oh, and the doctor can bill her for any amount billed over the "allowable amount." Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 12:41 PM (PYAXX)


Actually, no.  There's a doctor in Texas who said that she is no longer taking BCBS due to fundamental unilateral changes in the terms of the contract which she does not accept and BCBS is saying no you have to take the insurance since we still think you are in the network.   The next step is telling physicians who are not part of a network at all that they have to take the contract rates despite not being in the network at all.  Remember, that's already being discussed under guise of insurance companies continuing to pay for treatment under cancelled policies. 


And besearch is beseech + alkiehol. 


Posted by: alexthechick - We beseech thee of great SMOD at February 05, 2014 08:49 AM (Gk3SS)

99 *thump thump thump* Hmm, my Give-A-Shitometer doesn't appear to be working. Again.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 05, 2014 08:49 AM (0HooB)

100 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said. "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen."


Wake up and smell the shit.

Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2014 08:49 AM (MNq6o)

101 Reminds meÂ….. This twat probably scoffed at Sarah Palin's concern over "death panels." Now, this idiot has been deemed, "non essential."

Posted by: Seems legit at February 05, 2014 08:49 AM (A98Xu)

102 I predict again that the public health care system will switch very quickly to the public school model.

Most people will suffer and the 25% who can afford it will opt out, even though they pay for the flawed system anyway.

Percentage distribution of students in grades 1–12, by type of school: 1993, 2003, and 2007

Type of school

1993 2003 2007 Public, assigned 79.9 73.9 73.2 Public, chosen 11.0 15.4 15.5 Private, church-related 7.5 8.4 8.7 Private, not church-related 1.6 2.4 2.6

Posted by: scottst at February 05, 2014 08:50 AM (idA6q)

103 You guys are always harping on Barry's failures.  Why not look at one of his massive successes:

http://tinyurl.com/o9yuy29

Kerry visiting Israel.

With special twitter commentary from Susan Rice.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 05, 2014 08:50 AM (BZAd3)

104 Danielle, you can't spend the rest of your short life worrying about your mistakes.  You fucked up- you trusted us.

Posted by: The DNC at February 05, 2014 08:50 AM (SY2Kh)

105 I have nothing to do today except clean the 10" of snow off my huge car. So I think I'll make some hot dogs.

Posted by: Soothsayer and the Cult Jam at February 05, 2014 08:50 AM (iwCB8)

106 I'll take "Death Panels" for $1 Trillion, Alex....

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at February 05, 2014 08:50 AM (wtvvX)

107 Has Paul Krugman called her a liar yet?

Posted by: Countrysquire at February 05, 2014 08:50 AM (LSJmV)

108 I have a broke-ass relative that I'm trying to help by finding Medicaid doctors for her. Twice I've called doctor's and asked if they accept Medicaid and just heard "No." followed by click. I'm thinking lots of people are being shunted on the Medicaid. These doctor's offices must be getting flooded with calls of people trying to find a doc. I've never been treated so rudely by any doctor, dentist, medical provider of anything. Never had this sort of experience my entire life. But, man, once I mention the word Medicaid they immediately hang-up. No. Click. Goodbye. Go fuck yourself.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 05, 2014 08:51 AM (ZPrif)

109 BUT SHE'S STILL A FAN???????

Posted by: janetoo at February 05, 2014 08:51 AM (IgUON)

110 Introduce her to the west coast liberals who were shocked SHOCKED that their premiums went up 3000%.

Posted by: --- at February 05, 2014 08:51 AM (MMC8r)

111 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said. "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen."

 

 

I guess the beatings do improve morale.

 

 

I'll  forego any further commentary about this idiot person with the C and just leave it at that.

 

Posted by: eleven at February 05, 2014 08:52 AM (fsLdt)

112 You can keep your doctor. You can also keep my penis is your mouth. Ok, one of these two is a lie.

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 05, 2014 08:52 AM (M3hAT)

113 I'm glad she's such a big fan

Posted by: Avi at February 05, 2014 08:52 AM (Gx3Fe)

114 "I'm a complete fan idiot of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said. "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen."

LOL and the rubes couldn't imagine things were how Uncle Joe wanted them either.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 05, 2014 08:52 AM (nptiF)

115 I take no joy in this woman's cancer, or the ignorance that led her to support Obamacare. But people need to be shown the connection between what they vote for and what actually happens. Even if it won't change her mind, then holding her up as an exemplar of the irrationality of the Left might change some others.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 08:52 AM (ZshNr)

116 I hate that I have to even look at his stupid, lying mug in that video still.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 05, 2014 08:52 AM (osdNx)

117 Sorry --botched paste job came from here

https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=6

But the point is still the same.

Posted by: scottst at February 05, 2014 08:52 AM (idA6q)

118 She says she was a big fan of obamacare? Hey sweety, honey, doll there ain't even free lunch in Fantasy Land at Disney World. Grow up idiot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2014 08:52 AM (nzKvP)

119 Take a look at what the voters of California have done to one of the most prosperous places on the planet and all becomes clear.


Yep.  I've lived here all my life.  I've also been in over 40 countries so I know California is one of the most amazingly beautiful, resource-rich places on the planet. And the idiot electorate and legislature have managed to turn it into a shithole that people productive people run from.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 05, 2014 08:52 AM (8ZskC)

120 I do hope this cunt dies. There I said it. Fuck her.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 05, 2014 08:53 AM (0LHZx)

121

BUT SHE'S STILL A FAN???????

 

 

This is what we're up against.  Common sense is passe.

Posted by: eleven at February 05, 2014 08:53 AM (fsLdt)

122 9 If you like your doctor, you will blow me. That's funny right there, I don't care who you fuck.

Posted by: Larry the Cable Guy at February 05, 2014 08:53 AM (JQuNB)

123 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said.



This simple sentence describes the entire left in this country.


De fucking lusional.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 05, 2014 08:53 AM (BZAd3)

124 HEY, KIDS!

Don't try this at home!!

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at February 05, 2014 08:53 AM (wtvvX)

125 And people that dumb are allowed to vote?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2014 08:53 AM (nzKvP)

126 I see a potential health care reality spin-off of "The Biggest Loser."

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at February 05, 2014 08:53 AM (OPzNA)

127 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said. "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen." If only Czar Obama knew...

Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2014 08:53 AM (T0NGe)

128 Can we get a post about the bitches in Philly getting purse snatched and wondering where all the men are that should be protecting them?

Only if it includes Insty's headline FISH FEELS ABANDONED BY BICYCLE.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 05, 2014 08:54 AM (B/VB5)

129 Summary of position: Impugn my piety all you like, if you voted for this, I ain't saving you, don't really care what happens to you, too busy looking after the innocents you harmed, good day.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 05, 2014 08:54 AM (naUcP)

130 Obamacare = Light fuse; get away.

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at February 05, 2014 08:54 AM (wtvvX)

131 Gonna post it again.
PSA just put 500rd bricks of CCI 22lr on sale.
$50.00.
Not too bad in today's market

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 05, 2014 08:54 AM (DHj6D)

132 128 it was awesome, wasn't it.

Posted by: NCKate at February 05, 2014 08:54 AM (K/OhM)

133 ""I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," " Useless. Idiot. Your God-King doesn't give a fuck about you serf. In fact, your treatment will cost too much. Time to take a pill and die. Still think the that the US healthcare system pre-2010 sucked?

Posted by: blindside at February 05, 2014 08:55 AM (WzWmY)

134 I see a potential health care reality spin-off of "The Biggest Loser."

More like Survivor...

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at February 05, 2014 08:55 AM (wtvvX)

135 Wanna know why heroin use is going up?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at February 05, 2014 08:55 AM (Bps3R)

136 But the good news for this cunt is that she can now quit her job and become a poet or a sculptor.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 05, 2014 08:55 AM (0LHZx)

137 Obamacare = Light fuse; drop in someone else's lap; get away.

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at February 05, 2014 12:54 PM (wtvvX)



Fixed.

Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 08:55 AM (GQ8sn)

138 There's no cure for dumb.

Posted by: Oscar Meyer

Actually, about that ...

Posted by: Death [/i] [/b] at February 05, 2014 08:55 AM (cxs6V)

139

>>"I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said.

 

Hmm. Cognitive disjunction?

Posted by: rrpjr at February 05, 2014 08:55 AM (s/yC1)

140 They called us liars. They called us haters. They called us racists. They said we wanted people dead. They said we were greedy. So they refused to listen. And WE WERE RIGHT.

Posted by: --- at February 05, 2014 08:55 AM (MMC8r)

141 Hm. I'm mistaken. I thought I gave a crap about this person's problems but it turns out that I was hungry.

Posted by: NR Pax at February 05, 2014 08:55 AM (oDCMR)

142 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said. "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen.".......The stupid is strong with this one.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at February 05, 2014 08:55 AM (X+nFp)

143 PS - hey dummy, its happening exactly how Obama wants it. He doesn't give two shits about you. As a matter of fact, he'd probably prefer if you would just shut up and die so he can keep eating his waffle.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 05, 2014 08:55 AM (osdNx)

144 If only Czar Obama knew... Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2014 12:53 PM (T0NGe) Actually that would be Comrade obama, as in comrade Stalin

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2014 08:55 AM (nzKvP)

145 @128 Linky?

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at February 05, 2014 08:55 AM (wtvvX)

146 that's your typical upscale Failifornia lieberal... dumber than a bag of hammers and built to stay that way.

we are *so* screwed here, except for the weather.
(assuming it rains again, one day soon)

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 05, 2014 08:56 AM (q+fqH)

147 136 But the good news for this cunt is that she can now quit her job and become a poet or a sculptor. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 05, 2014 12:55 PM (0LHZx) LOL Yeah, we need more of those.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 05, 2014 08:56 AM (A98Xu)

148 Useless. Idiot. Your God-King doesn't give a fuck about you serf. In fact, your treatment will cost too much. More. He has loathing for his constituents. He hates them. He laughs at them in private. At least he thinks of the Tea party as "meddling kids".

Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2014 08:56 AM (T0NGe)

149 Gonna post it again.
PSA just put 500rd bricks of CCI 22lr on sale.
$50.00.
Not too bad in today's market

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 05, 2014 12:54 PM (DHj6D)



PSA will ship it to you when THEY feel like it.



Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 08:56 AM (GQ8sn)

150 Take a look at what the voters of California have done to one of the most prosperous places on the planet and all becomes clear. Posted by: JackStraw at February 05, 2014 12:49 PM (g1DWB) The voting patterns of Calif changed, as the ethnic / cultural makeup changed. You can thank de facto unlimited Immigration. And then you have the GOP, who wants to make it even EASIER for them to vote.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 05, 2014 08:56 AM (84gbM)

151 I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen. Well, relying on your imagination is certainly easier than learning history.

Posted by: t-bird at February 05, 2014 08:57 AM (FcR7P)

152
But people need to be shown the connection between what they vote for and what actually happens.

------------


 I voted for President Obama because he's black and cool. 

Posted by: Danielle Nelson at February 05, 2014 08:57 AM (nQjHM)

153 Stories like this + Idiots like this = An easy path for Universal Healthcare Yes, Universal Healthcare instead of a Republican landslide is now a more likely result of the failed obamacare.

Posted by: Soothsayer and the Cult Jam at February 05, 2014 08:57 AM (iwCB8)

154 @145: Link to Insty in my name.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 05, 2014 08:57 AM (B/VB5)

155 Well, at least she'll have plenty of time to enjoy her Obamacare-related unemployment.  Right??

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at February 05, 2014 08:57 AM (wtvvX)

156 Egg, get back in the pan!

Posted by: Omelette Station at February 05, 2014 08:57 AM (Djwm9)

157 When asked about this Obama said: "1-800-F1UCKYO! Operators are standing by..."

Posted by: t-bird at February 05, 2014 08:57 AM (FcR7P)

158 All the data I've seen show private school enrollment has been declining. Especially religious schools. Public k-12 has been growing, not declining. Sad to say.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 05, 2014 08:57 AM (ZPrif)

159 I wonder if she feels like a part of History for having voted for TFG...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 05, 2014 08:58 AM (0HooB)

160 I take no joy in this woman's cancer, or the ignorance that led her to support Obamacare. But people need to be shown the connection between what they vote for and what actually happens. Even if it won't change her mind, then holding her up as an exemplar of the irrationality of the Left might change some others.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 12:52 PM (ZshNr)

This ^1,000,000,000,000

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 05, 2014 08:58 AM (fwARV)

161 More. He has loathing for his constituents. He hates them. He laughs at them in private.


Exactly correct.  The God-King is a malevolent bastard.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 05, 2014 08:58 AM (8ZskC)

162 we are *so* screwed here, except for the weather. (assuming it rains again, one day soon) Don't be silly. We'll need California to raise the sandworms we need for "Plan B" of healthcare. The CHOOM corp positions are already given away...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 05, 2014 08:58 AM (naUcP)

163 Posted by: alexthechick - We beseech thee of great SMOD at February 05, 2014 12:49 PM (Gk3SS) Okay... yes. A doctor *can* specifically opt out of an insurance network, but it's fairly rare. Self-pay patients are notorious for lacking the second-half of that term, so doctors tend to accept as many forms of insurance as is feasible. And, as for those "unilateral contract changes:" as a former BCBS employee, I heard that a lot from providers. It was true (even on its face) maybe 1 time in 50. The rest of the times were not "contract changes" but compensation changes- which are built into those contracts. Of that 1-in-50, the changes were never (to my knowledge) "unilateral" on the part of BCBS- many of them were legislative/regulatory changes, and the rest tended to be a reinterpretation of an existing contract clause (reinterpretation as in: "wait... treatment for alcoholic liver cirrhosis is treatment for illness or injury due to alcoholism, which we specifically exclude. We shouldn't have paid all those claims..."). And, in the posted quote, it is strongly implied that this was an insurance decision- not a doctor's decision.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 08:59 AM (PYAXX)

164 "PSA will ship it to you when THEY feel like it."

Gonna give them a try despite that.

I CAN'T get it here for twice that price.
Not available
Shelves empty
not in stock
And on and on.

Spent a weekend with Mrs VIA cruzin' stores, and she was amazed.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 05, 2014 08:59 AM (DHj6D)

165 This is what we're up against. Common sense is passe. ___ Damn reality is fucking with the narrative. This is bullshit man. WE NEED TO ALL THINK RIGHT THOUGHTS HARDER!

Posted by: The Left at February 05, 2014 08:59 AM (M3hAT)

166 Her process: I like Obama. Republicans are icky. I believe everything Obama tells me. He says he'll give me things! Go, Obama, Go!

Posted by: --- at February 05, 2014 08:59 AM (MMC8r)

167 "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen." I'll say it again: "My Preezy only beats me because I disappoint him."

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 08:59 AM (7ObY1)

168 Here's some data on the decline in private school k-12. https://www.census.gov/hhes/school/files/ewert_private_school_enrollment.pdf It peaked around 1960 at over 14% and now is barely above 8%.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 05, 2014 09:00 AM (ZPrif)

169 And people that dumb are allowed to vote?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2014 12:53 PM (nzKvP)


***



 FFS, This morning, some lady w/an e-mail...@Cornelledu couldn't figure out how to place an order on our website.  (Basic shop-cart design)

 

Posted by: dananjcon at February 05, 2014 09:00 AM (NpXoL)

170 She should be asking herself how she failed Obama.

Posted by: --- at February 05, 2014 09:00 AM (MMC8r)

171 Most people will suffer and the 25% who can afford it will opt out, even though they pay for the flawed system anyway. Which is how it is in Germany and, I imagine, much of Europe. Mission accomplished!

Posted by: t-bird at February 05, 2014 09:00 AM (FcR7P)

172 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said.

Sleeping pill!  There,  I said it.

Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2014 09:00 AM (MNq6o)

173 37 ""I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night,""

FUCK OFF YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCH!!
=========
As we were discussing on the other thread: She and hers will gladly line us up against the wall and pull the trigger.

You can't sleep at night?

YOU CAN'T FUCKING SLEEP AT NIGHT?!!

How do you think I feel?

25% increase this year alone. On top of the 25% increase over the last two years for the health insurance I fucking pay for 100% myself!

And you fucking can't sleep at night? Because your free--paid for by me--health care insurance isn't free for the doctor you want?!

Listen lady, there's a bed down at the Salvation Army. Use it and pay for your own damned doctor.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 05, 2014 09:00 AM (VjL9S)

174 But people need to be shown the connection between what they vote for and what actually happens *** Not to excuse this woman's idiocy but...let's just say that the last two Republican nominees didn't exactly lay our a vision that differed much from Barky.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 05, 2014 09:00 AM (M3hAT)

175 Travel ban in my home county. Might be here at work a lot longer than I expected to be. It is horrific out there.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 09:01 AM (7ObY1)

176 Cognitive dissonance is not just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: joncelli at February 05, 2014 09:01 AM (RD7QR)

177 Is ace OK? Kinda starting to worry...

Posted by: Will work for sig at February 05, 2014 09:01 AM (q177U)

178 Gonna give them a try despite that.

I CAN'T get it here for twice that price.
Not available
Shelves empty
not in stock
And on and on.

Spent a weekend with Mrs VIA cruzin' stores, and she was amazed.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 05, 2014 12:59 PM (DHj6D)



Browse www.gunbot.net in the early mornings for the best chance to score .22lr.


The handy little sort feature makes things easier.  I like the "sort by price" option so I can see who has what at what price/round.


Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 09:01 AM (GQ8sn)

179 "Aliso Viejo resident Danielle Nelson said..." Reality makes an appearance in an upscale neighborhood.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 05, 2014 09:01 AM (jVaLp)

180 Well.. that's unexpected!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 05, 2014 09:01 AM (Z7PrM)

181 I have come to believe TFG is too stupid/lazy to purposely do all the harm that has been done in the past five years. He is just a convenient product of affirmative action.

Now the rat-faced Iranian is a different story. She is conniving and deceitful enough. Plus I think she truly hates America. It's in her blood.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 05, 2014 09:01 AM (gHDMy)

182 If she's a "complete fan" she should be fine with paying whatever is required under O-care. And Moo Moo is a sick puppy to wish for the death of a mentally disabled person.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 05, 2014 09:01 AM (1Y+hH)

183 Yeah ammo shortage logjam has broken. My Walmart hasn't had 9mm in a year, now they have boxes of 50 at 10.37. They have had 5.56 at less than 50 cents a round for a long time.

Posted by: blaster at February 05, 2014 09:01 AM (4+AaH)

184 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 05, 2014 01:00 PM (ZPrif) If you were wondering who embiggenated the thread, blame Joe.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 09:02 AM (PYAXX)

185 Posted by: BlueStateRebel
........
Where you at?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 05, 2014 09:02 AM (Z7PrM)

186 She ll be singing the praises of ACA right up until they stuff her in a coffin. FOOL.

Posted by: gone galt at February 05, 2014 09:02 AM (lOzFA)

187 Long time meaning past couple of months.

Posted by: blaster at February 05, 2014 09:02 AM (4+AaH)

188 I mean, you're acting as if she'd have to pay something towards, say, a deductible, a very very large deductible,
alexthechick - We besearch thee of great SMOD at February 05, 2014 12:44 PM

I'm pretty sure she hasn't got that far in figuring things out yet. The provider list and double checking things WHEN YOU HAVE CANCER while picking a new plan was too much for her. Deductibles, co-pays, drug formularies,  pre-approvals for treatment, ER policy, approved hospitals, pharmacies, and doctors etc did not matter as much as the cheapest premium and maxing out the subsidy received. She is in for a lot of surprises,

Posted by: Lester at February 05, 2014 09:02 AM (2UPXV)

189 i only feel sorry for those who didn't vote for obama......

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 22 days until spring training at February 05, 2014 09:02 AM (u8GsB)

190 They called us liars.

They called us haters.

They called us racists.

They said we wanted people dead.

They said we were greedy.

So they refused to listen.

And WE WERE RIGHT. Posted by: ---


Amen.

Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2014 09:02 AM (MNq6o)

191 It peaked around 1960 at over 14% and now is barely above 8%. Catholic schools were a common option when I was in school. I imagine they've taken a hit over the years.

Posted by: t-bird at February 05, 2014 09:02 AM (FcR7P)

192 By the way, who in Congress is actively working to get rid of Obamacare?

Posted by: dogfish at February 05, 2014 09:02 AM (NuPNl)

193
"I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said.




Ah,  quel dommage.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2014 09:03 AM (kdS6q)

194 Where you at? Northern suburbs of Buffalo. Travel ban in Niagara County. My mother works for the county, she just e-mailed me about the ban. They were all sent home earlier today.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 09:03 AM (7ObY1)

195 "Stalin had as Khrushchev called it 'a cult of personality' built to shield his rule. Essentially all facets of the media, i.e propaganda attributed all positive things in the USSR to Stalin. Anything negative was ascribed to Trotskyites, saboteurs, and fascists." (H/T Philip L, yahoo answers contributor) The Stalin analogies do fit, except for all the murder.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 05, 2014 09:03 AM (9eDbm)

196 172 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said.

Sleeping pill! There, I said it.

Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2014 01:00 PM (MNq6o)

Bazinga!

Posted by: SLCooper at February 05, 2014 09:03 AM (Djwm9)

197 Now the rat-faced Iranian is a different story. She is conniving and deceitful enough. Plus I think she truly hates America. It's in her blood.

Agreed, he's the figurehead, the Rat is making the policy.  Thus her quote that "the second term will be for revenge" or whatever it was fits in well with e.g. D'Souza.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 05, 2014 09:03 AM (B/VB5)

198 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said.


You are guaranteed 20 minutes of nature footage set to music of your choice.

Posted by: Government Euthanasia Clinic at February 05, 2014 09:03 AM (GQ8sn)

199 More awesome o'care news:

http://tinyurl.com/p3xf37n

Identity stolen after using o'care website.

This while the Target CEO was being grilled on capital hill for lax security.

Yeah, right.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 05, 2014 09:03 AM (BZAd3)

200

Clearly the doctor is a Tea bagger just trying to make Pharoah look bad. 

 

NSA transmitting his info to IRS, DEA and EPA.  

Posted by: McCool at February 05, 2014 09:03 AM (nCSwS)

201 The Stalin analogies do fit, except for all the murder.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 05, 2014 01:03 PM (9eDbm)

So far.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 05, 2014 09:04 AM (fwARV)

202 "Browse www.gunbot.net in the early mornings for the best chance to score .22lr."

That's where I got it from.

I start checking every morning at 0610.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 05, 2014 09:04 AM (DHj6D)

203 Dear Ms Nelson It is a bummer that we can' afford to cure that cancer stuff, I think you should be thanking President Obama that now you are free to embark on an exciting new career as an amateur whore. Well...with the time you have left. Might I suggest gang bangs? Much more efficient.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 05, 2014 09:04 AM (M3hAT)

204 I love being lied to and then disappointed at the most challenging points in my life.  I also drink my own urine, and I like to cut myself.

Posted by: LIV Google Glass NameTag Profile at February 05, 2014 09:04 AM (Kkt/i)

205 "Maria Berumen, a tax preparer in Downey, was uninsured for years because of preexisting conditions. The 53-year-old was thrilled to find coverage for herself and her husband for $148 a month after qualifying for a big government subsidy." So....guaranteed drain on the system, gets discounted, subsidized price.

Posted by: --- at February 05, 2014 09:04 AM (MMC8r)

206 Does this mean I don't get my taxpayer-supplied scooter?

Posted by: The Guy Who Only Worries About Getting A Taxpayer-Funded Scooter at February 05, 2014 09:05 AM (8ZskC)

207 Buffalo......ouch.

Posted by: eleven at February 05, 2014 09:05 AM (fsLdt)

208 I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night But your Care is now Affordable! If you had actually gotten seen by a doctor, it would have cost too much.

Posted by: t-bird at February 05, 2014 09:05 AM (FcR7P)

209 I start checking every morning at 0610.


Good man!

Posted by: EC at February 05, 2014 09:05 AM (GQ8sn)

210 207 Buffalo......ouch. A friend in Philly told me earlier today they are expecting a lot more than we have.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 05, 2014 09:05 AM (7ObY1)

211 The Stalin analogies do fit, except for all the murder. Posted by: Chairman LMAO

Can you fucking give us a minute here?  We're working on it!

Posted by: ACA Death Panels at February 05, 2014 09:05 AM (MNq6o)

212 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," This line completely baffles me.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at February 05, 2014 09:06 AM (4Chvm)

213 Ian S.
To join the suuper sekrit group

aceofspadeshq-subscribe@yahoogroups.com


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 05, 2014 09:06 AM (DHj6D)

214 153
Stories like this + Idiots like this = An easy path for Universal Healthcare

Yes, Universal Healthcare instead of a Republican landslide is now a more likely result of the failed obamacare.

Posted by: Soothsayer and the Cult Jam at February 05, 2014 12:57 PM (iwCB


Alas, you say sooth. (See what I did there?) The GOP will screw up, the MSM will push stories about "We need to do something!!" and they'll give us UniHealthCare.

Posted by: joncelli at February 05, 2014 09:06 AM (RD7QR)

215 You have cancer? Here's why that's actually a good thing

Posted by: Future MSM Headline [/i] [/b] at February 05, 2014 09:06 AM (cxs6V)

216 I said your health care would be affordable. I never said anything about good. Now take your blue pill and go away.

Posted by: SCOAMT at February 05, 2014 09:07 AM (PYAXX)

217

I have a broke-ass relative that I'm trying to help by finding Medicaid doctors for her. Twice I've called doctor's and asked if they accept Medicaid and just heard "No." followed by click.

I'm thinking lots of people are being shunted on the Medicaid. These doctor's offices must be getting flooded with calls of people trying to find a doc. I've never been treated so rudely by any doctor, dentist, medical provider of anything. Never had this sort of experience my entire life.

But, man, once I mention the word Medicaid they immediately hang-up. No. Click. Goodbye. Go fuck yourself.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 05, 2014 12:51 PM (ZPrif)

 

I would do the same.  If you are recording, and they say they do not take medicaid, you would have an admission.  Think of what it would sound like on a TV News story?  

 

Hang Up.  Click.   Sorry, we must have been disconnected.  And NO sound bite. 

 

 

Posted by: deluded democrat douchebag at February 05, 2014 09:07 AM (D+lxs)

218

Remember folks: this was supposed to happen.  Democrats set up ObamaCare to fail.  Why?  So the disaster of ObamaCare would pave the way for the true liberal endgoal: single payer.

 

Yes, the ObamaCare system is nothing but a Trojan Horse.  Yes, people will die and suffer because of ObamaCare.  But the Democrats and liberals don't care.  It's just collateral damage as they march towards their "progressive" goal.

Posted by: MacGruber at February 05, 2014 09:07 AM (XxAYS)

219 "Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death, there is no appeal and execution is carried out automatically and without pity."

-Robert A. Heinlein

Posted by: DanInMN at February 05, 2014 09:07 AM (XqeyF)

220 Isn't this exactly what she voted for? Elections have consequences, right?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 05, 2014 12:36 PM (fwARV)


^^^^THIS^^^^

She says she's a fan of the ACA (right there tells you she's an Obamabot and a true believer).

Can't.Muster.Any.Sympathy.

Sucks for everybody else that this delusional fool drug down with her.


Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop posting from work at February 05, 2014 09:07 AM (T6MoX)

221 "still a fan" - You have to practice to be this stupid. No way that comes naturally. Years and years of practice.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at February 05, 2014 09:08 AM (X+nFp)

222

You have cancer? Here's why that's actually a good thing

 

N/M......I was going to riff on that but karma, she is a bitch.

Posted by: eleven at February 05, 2014 09:08 AM (fsLdt)

223 Semi-related: I see that the Donks are mad at Debbie Wasserface Schlitz for stating that the Donks will not retake the House. The one time Wasserface tells the truth, she gets in trouble with the Donks. No amount of lying caused that sort of unfortunate reaction. Here, they lied to Nelson to get Nelson to do what they wanted. That's standard Donk operation procedure. No problem.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 05, 2014 09:08 AM (Hx5uv)

224 Actually that would be Comrade obama, as in comrade Stalin Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2014 12:55 PM (nzKvP) That was a czarist attitude as well. It was just transferred to Stalin.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 05, 2014 09:09 AM (T0NGe)

225 So the disaster of ObamaCare would pave the way for the true liberal endgoal: single payer. This. A million times, this. And rather than attempt to protect their supposed constituents from this literal slavery, the GOP wants to focus on amnesty. Awesome.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 09:09 AM (PYAXX)

226 Yes, Universal Healthcare instead of a Republican landslide is now a more likely result Universal Healthcare? Landslide? That gives us an idea...

Posted by: Your GOP Elite at February 05, 2014 09:09 AM (FcR7P)

227 As we were discussing on the other thread: She and hers will gladly line us up against the wall and pull the trigger. And yet, we were told we were not Christians & mean for not sympathizing with her plight.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 05, 2014 09:09 AM (xorT2)

228 Take two hope-n-change and call, me in the morning.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 05, 2014 09:09 AM (Hx5uv)

229 "Last week, the California Assembly approved legislation enabling people who lost coverage because of the overhaul to keep seeing their doctors if they're pregnant or undergoing treatment for cancer or other conditions."
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Not if their doctors move to Texas.

Posted by: mrp at February 05, 2014 09:10 AM (JBggj)

230 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night,"


Your support for the Affordable Care Act was deemed to be "substandard".

Put on this gown and lie down on the gurney.  This will be over before you know it.

Posted by: The ACA Death Panel Provider at February 05, 2014 09:10 AM (MNq6o)

231 Yes, Universal Healthcare instead of a Republican landslide is now a more likely result


Why stay in the frying pan when there's an actual fire nearby?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 05, 2014 09:10 AM (8ZskC)

232 LOL and the rubes couldn't imagine things were how Uncle Joe wanted them either.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 05, 2014 12:52 PM (nptiF)

Ah, you made the exact point I was going to...lol.  Ah well, I already made it on a different blog.

Posted by: GMan at February 05, 2014 09:10 AM (sxq57)

233 Posted by: Ian S. at February 05, 2014 01:03 PM (B/VB5)

Why didn't BO ask TFG who the IRS chief was visiting in the WH over 100+ times? More specifically if he was meeting with the RFI?

I honestly don't think the TFG knows what is going on and that is why he finds out when he has the newpapers read to him.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at February 05, 2014 09:10 AM (gHDMy)

234 Danielle you idiot... Good news is, Barky's having someone get right back to you on this matter. Bad news is, it's someone just like pajama boy. You're pretty much forked.

Posted by: Roscoe at February 05, 2014 09:11 AM (MIovV)

235 As we were discussing on the other thread: She and hers will gladly line us up against the wall and pull the trigger. *** Liberals believe that the only real sin is opposition to liberalism.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 05, 2014 09:11 AM (M3hAT)

236 I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act... And yet you don't realize it was, in fact, all an act.

Posted by: t-bird at February 05, 2014 09:11 AM (FcR7P)

237 These are the same people who are currently signing petitions to have gun owners SHOT.

You want your cancer treatment, cupcake?  Pay for it.  Yourself. 

*Note:  When I use food-based pet names, I'm patronizing the SHIT out of you.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 05, 2014 09:12 AM (fwARV)

238 @108 - Someday I'm going to write my grand signal-to-noise opus. Every stable system has to be able to tolerate a certain amount of noise in its signal. Whether you're talking about malformed Ethernet packets on your local network or welfare cases as a percentage of the total population or food impurities in the human body, any stable system either by design or by evolution accommodates a certain amount of chaff with the wheat with only nominal degradation. But...performance degradation as the signal-to-noise ratio falls off is not a linear relationship. Eventually the rise in the curve gets quite sharp. And systems engineered or evolved to perpetually handle low signal-to-noise conditions are very costly and generally quite inefficient. And so you have our healthcare system as it had evolved, where the cost of Medicaid and the underinsured were 'disappeared' into the larger money flows so long as they were a small fraction of the total and the system could afford to do so. Obamacare does not change the basic nature of the equation, it just pushes us a long way up that curve. The British NHS does change the architecture of the system, by making most of the medical workforce employees of the government. Note I'm not saying that this is a *good* thing, or necessarily a *bad* thing, it's just a *thing*.

Posted by: JEM at February 05, 2014 09:12 AM (o+SC1)

239 How do we convince these people that conservatism is the best way out of this mess? The "I told you so" refrain is pretty thin gruel at this point. We simply won't win elections if we can't convert the disillusioned.

I want results, not barbed *ock dressed in triumphalism.

Posted by: 13times at February 05, 2014 09:12 AM (fGPLK)

240 Here's hoping that J Pod  quote in the sidebar is  true.

Posted by: eleven at February 05, 2014 09:13 AM (fsLdt)

241 Hmm, Single Payer Healthcare...Amnesty...Single Payer Healthcare Amnesty. Let me eat this Peanut Butter cup while I think about which we should get on board with. Eureka! Taxpayer funded healthcare for illegals...on this platform we can't lose!

Posted by: The Republican Leadership at February 05, 2014 09:13 AM (M3hAT)

242
From the cooments of that LATimes story:

LibertyFirst1776_ at 9:59 AM February 5, 2014

I can vouch for this.  Had a family plan for 10 years.  Cancelled Dec 31 and new "Obamacare"-ready plan took effect Jan 1.  Old plan had $150 hospital copay.  New plan has $4k deductible.  Had a medical emergency Jan 23 in the middle of the night - rushed to ER.  A month before it would have cost me $150, under my "improved" Obamacare-ready plan I am out $4k and counting.

After I stabilized I needed to find a specialist and a new primary care doc.  Started going down the extensive list provided by the insurance company.   Call after call, "we are not accepting new patients" or "please join our concierge service at X dollars per month".  I contacted my ER doc and had him refer me to a colleague who made an exception and accepted me as a patient.




On the upside, this is gonna thin out the human herd quicker than a pack of hungry leopards on the Atkins.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 05, 2014 09:14 AM (kdS6q)

243 "Any huge implementation like this comes with a lot of moving parts,"
We can fix that.

Posted by: The ACA Death Panel Provider at February 05, 2014 09:14 AM (MNq6o)

244 I honestly don't think the TFG knows what is going on and that is why he finds out when he has the newpapers read to him.

Yup.  It conveniently squares all the circles around the seemingly contradictory things Obama does and says.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 05, 2014 09:14 AM (B/VB5)

245

My friends, you have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House

Posted by: John McCain at February 05, 2014 09:15 AM (Q6pxP)

246 Danielle Nelson seems like a silly thinker to me.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 05, 2014 09:15 AM (eytER)

247 I want results, not barbed *ock dressed in triumphalism.

Posted by: 13times at February 05, 2014 01:12 PM (fGPLK)

These people have already shown, empirically, a complete inability to be educated.  For YEARS, the data existed to prove, again - empirically - that their model was not only going to fail, but actually make things worse.

They don't WANT to listen.  They already KNOW they're right, we're wrong and that's it. 

You can't convert a fanatic.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 05, 2014 09:15 AM (fwARV)

248 We simply won't win elections if we can't convert the disillusioned. To do that, you have to convince them that "we want free stuff, give it to us" ain't gonna fly any more. Good luck with that one.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 05, 2014 09:15 AM (naUcP)

249 *Note: When I use food-based pet names, I'm patronizing the SHIT out of you.  Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 05, 2014 01:12 PM (fwARV)

I have vastly simplified the process.  I have a one-size-fits all name for idiots regardless of sex, race, or creed.

"Sparky"

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 05, 2014 09:15 AM (MPIX5)

250 Nood

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 05, 2014 09:15 AM (bCEmE)

251 Ms Nelson: I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act even though it is completely screwing me over and threatening my life. Note that she didn't say, "I *was*." Sigh.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at February 05, 2014 09:15 AM (r+7wo)

252
Barry: What's she bitching about? She can now get contraception and abortions. And that's all the womyn's health issues there are

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 05, 2014 09:15 AM (1Jaio)

253 It doesn't sound like her doctors dropped out of her plan, but that the plans dropped them.   I suspect there is a larger set of doctors who are going to remove themselves from the market, and that shoe hasn't fallen yet.

Posted by: Jean at February 05, 2014 09:16 AM (4JkHl)

254 Start at the bottom and work backwards. What are we talking about?
Oh, Person has illness, goes to doctor. Doctor treats illness. Person is happy. Doctor says "Who pays for this?"

...and that's when the fight started.

Posted by: Justin Lately Jr at February 05, 2014 09:17 AM (nQE02)

255 I said it in the earlier post, Danielle is just like a victim of a con man. A con man preys on the mark's *greed*. They are both responsible. You may feel a little sorry for the victim, but they wouldn't have been swindled if they hadn't wanted to get an unbelievable return on a minimal investment.
Unfortunately, the Danielles of this country have blown it for all of us, not just themselves.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 05, 2014 09:17 AM (POpqt)

256 So Romney's responsible for yet another woman's cancer.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 05, 2014 09:17 AM (ZshNr)

257 I want results, not barbed *ock dressed in triumphalism. Can't I have both? But, to address your point- we'll never convince this one. She's "all in" with OCare, and she'll never believe that the problem is with the Prog/Commie idea. For those on the fence, you have to do several things: 1- Point out how OCare hurts/costs them. 2- Point out how a Conservative solution would help. 3- Point out how OCare hurts/costs society. 4- Point out how a Conservative solution would help. But before those, you first have to *reach them.* And that's really where our problem lies. The GOP (and other Conservative groups) need to start making PSAs and paying to have them aired. Blitz the airwaves with "this is how ObamaCare hurts you." Then blitz the airwaves with "Conservative solution X (say... insurance across State lines- just to pick one at random) fixes problem Y."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 05, 2014 09:17 AM (PYAXX)

258 well, I learned something. My post this morning on this topic that was a reference to a scene in a famous Bond movie was, I thought, a reference to Dr. No. In fact, it was a reference to Goldfinger.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 05, 2014 09:18 AM (Hx5uv)

259 New one? ah hell I just got here!

Posted by: Justin Lately Jr at February 05, 2014 09:19 AM (nQE02)

260 To do that, you have to convince them that "we want free stuff, give it to us" ain't gonna fly any more. Good luck with that one. We could just show them examples like CancerBitch and say, "Here's your free stuff. How do you like it? Keep voting for Dims if you like this."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 05, 2014 09:19 AM (0HooB)

261 Wish the reporter had asked Danielle who she does blame for her situation.
I'm guessing it would be either Republican in Congress or the greedy insurance company.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 05, 2014 09:19 AM (POpqt)

262 Danielle Nelson seems like a silly thinker to me. Posted by: @JohnTant


Seems like a preschool or kindergarten teacher to me.  Probably has a little unicorn or dolphin tattooed on her ankle.

Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2014 09:19 AM (MNq6o)

263 They don't WANT to listen. Theyalready KNOW they're right, we're wrong and that's it.
===
Statists want a permanent, 24/7/365 power to make life-and-death decisions for every person within the United States.  The power to monitor your activities, the power to approve or disapprove every choice you make.  That goes, of course, for your children, too.  It takes a village, comrade.

Posted by: mrp at February 05, 2014 09:20 AM (JBggj)

264 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said. "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen."

... "You fucked up, you trusted us"

Posted by: Eric "Otter" Stratton at February 05, 2014 09:22 AM (e8kgV)

265 Statists want a permanent, 24/7/365 power to make life-and-death decisions for every person within the United States. The power to monitor your activities, the power to approve or disapprove every choice you make. That goes, of course, for your children, too. It takes a village, comrade.

Posted by: mrp at February 05, 2014 01:20 PM (JBggj)

Which is precisely why I insist on retaining the power to shoot those fuckers in the face when the metal meets the meat.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 05, 2014 09:22 AM (fwARV)

266 "'I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night,' Nelson said. 'I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen.'"

Reality. A mugging thereby. Some assembly required.

Of course, what Obama and his acolytes "wanted to happen" _really was_ for everyone everywhere to get top shelf health insurance that paid for every imaginable desire, and that actually did cost less than health insurance had cost previously.

And what they ought to have added to their wish list of things that they "wanted to happen" was to have tame whales pull boats full of happy revelers through seas of sweet lemonade, because the whole kit and kaboodle of things that they "wanted to happen" was completely irrational magical thinking from the get-go.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 05, 2014 09:23 AM (gqT4g)

267 You know, as someone who has been up close and personal to watching a trusted person lie to you and betray you at the worst possible time, I understand exactly how she can sit there and justify this. You still love the person, so you go into denial, etc, etc. Usually happens to folks who are in relationships with people with personality disorders. They dominate you and take over your personality.

That's all well and good, except for one critical thing. The betrayer here is a STRANGER who this woman doesn't know from Adam, but yet she's reacting like she just found out her husband emptied the bank account and flew to Barbados. That right there is all the evidence you ever need to see to know that Democrats are entirely emotional in their politics, that their thought process is actually somewhat pathological, and that logic or reality will NEVER penetrate.

That woman might DIE because of this, and she can't muster the anger to tell Wonderboy and his glorious plan to fuck off. Savage was right... liberalism is a mental disorder.

Posted by: WolfinNC at February 05, 2014 09:23 AM (fOr/v)

268 How do we convince these people that conservatism is the best way out of this mess? The "I told you so" refrain is pretty thin gruel at this point. We simply won't win elections if we can't convert the disillusioned. I want results, not barbed *ock dressed in triumphalism. Oh, we're gonna show you some results, grasshopper.

Posted by: Grand Old Party of Marxist Quislings at February 05, 2014 09:24 AM (JQuNB)

269 This woman voted for this problem. I'm sorry for her but she herself created this issue. If she wants to fix it she needs to stop saying stupid shit like "the President didn't want this to happen". Because he did, and so did Max Baucus, Nancy Pelosi and all the other evil-doers in Congress. Once she realizes what she herself enabled she will be on the road to fixing the problem.

Posted by: MTF at February 05, 2014 09:24 AM (F58x4)

270 Seems like a preschool or kindergarten teacher to me. Probably has a little unicorn or dolphin tattooed on her ankle. Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2014 01:19 PM (MNq6o) Or an a spider?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2014 09:24 AM (0FSuD)

271 If we can't convert moderate democrats we're doomed to lose. Maybe it's time to get my cut of the free cake, we can't win, or so they say.

See what I did there? That's the end game for not converting mistakes made by the opposition.

Posted by: 13times at February 05, 2014 09:25 AM (fGPLK)

272 we'll never convince this one. She's "all in" with OCare, and she'll never believe that the problem is with the Prog/Commie idea.

Well, given her cancer, and lack of options for treating it, I'd guess that won't be a problem for too long.

Posted by: GMan at February 05, 2014 09:26 AM (sxq57)

273 Don't worry, sweetie. On your deathbed you'll still be able to look back on how cool it was to vote for a black guy.

So she's got that going for her.  Which is nice.

Posted by: grognard at February 05, 2014 09:26 AM (/29Nl)

274

239: "How do we convince these people that conservatism is the best way out of this mess? The "I told you so" refrain is pretty thin gruel at this point. We simply won't win elections if we can't convert the disillusioned.

I want results, not barbed *ock dressed in triumphalism."

 

When you are able to come up with such a plan or methodology, I will support it.

 

Until then, all I have is the barbed cock of Schadenfreud.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 05, 2014 09:28 AM (v6cwT)

275 Ask me if I care... http://tinyurl.com/42v58or

Posted by: Obammy at February 05, 2014 09:28 AM (N3Al8)

276 "I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said. "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen." Paraphrase: "I'm a complete fan of putting the government in absolute control of the most intimate decisions in the most private ares of peoples' lives, but just not MY life, "Nelson said. "This can't be happening to anyone else, can it? Because Obama is Christ is God, right? And never makes a mistake, right?"

Posted by: arik at February 05, 2014 09:28 AM (Gizfs)

277 "Next up will be doctors must accept Obamacare policies and then the 13th Amendment suits will hit the fan."

Longstanding prediction here: that if not repealed, Obamacare will, and must, result in the forcible impressment into service of health professionals. Who the government will require to work for less money than they think they ought to receive for their services.

Including inter alia certain blocs of unionized health professionals (cough NURSING UNIONS cough) who had been extremely avid supporters of and organizers for Comrade Ogabe.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 05, 2014 09:29 AM (gqT4g)

278 So when it snows in NYC the head ewok takes off and heads to PJ Clarks for a pop or ten?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 05, 2014 09:33 AM (0FSuD)

279 205 "Maria Berumen, a tax preparer in Downey, was uninsured for years because of preexisting conditions. The 53-year-old was thrilled to find coverage for herself and her husband for $148 a month after qualifying for a big government subsidy."

So....guaranteed drain on the system, gets discounted, subsidized price.
===========
Median household income in Downey, CA: $53,202.

Seems our "tax preparer" is hiding some $25,000 in income to qualify for the "big government subsidy."


Posted by: RoyalOil at February 05, 2014 09:35 AM (VjL9S)

280 Well look on the bright side! She will still be voting D after she is dead so she has that going for her!

Posted by: Buckeye Katie at February 05, 2014 09:36 AM (1M/xn)

281 Nelson is just another one of the idiot sheeple.  Is she still a fan of the healthcare act?  Choom boy doesn't care about anyone's health.  He cares about amassing and retaining power.

Posted by: Titanium at February 05, 2014 09:36 AM (IgOQg)

282 This weeks special is a 30 second video of President Obama himself with a parting message for you as you gently slip form the bonds of this mortal coil.

And you still get the 5% discount when you use your Discover card!

Posted by: The ACA Death Panel Provider at February 05, 2014 09:36 AM (MNq6o)

283 ""How do we convince these people that conservatism is the best way out of this mess? The 'I told you so' refrain is pretty thin gruel at this point."

I have mentioned that I actually met someone who was bitching about having had her hours at work reduced from full to part time because of "That damned ACA Act thingy."

Not realizing that ACA and Obamacare are one and the same.

This confusion is, I postulated, in part a result of deliberate obfuscation by the left, and sure enough, I was able to tot up repeated examples of cases in which Democrats referred to parts of Obamacare which poll-test well as "Obamacare", but blame the unpopular parts on the "Affordable Care Act".

So, to the list of things that have to be figured out, add a way to reliably puncture that particular bit of imposture. Which may also be being aided and abetted by abject self-delusion of the type Ms. Nelson displays. ("I know they say these bad things are because of Obamacare. But, Obama. Who can do no wrong. So it must instead be because of the ACA. That's it. Bad, bad ACA!")

Posted by: torquewrench at February 05, 2014 09:37 AM (gqT4g)

284 Seems our "tax preparer" is hiding some $25,000 in income to qualify for the "big government subsidy."


Posted by: RoyalOil

Maybe she's a farmer?

Posted by: Dang at February 05, 2014 09:38 AM (MNq6o)

285 Who knew mental retardation was a cause of insomnia?

Posted by: Fringe at February 05, 2014 09:41 AM (oWl4T)

286
This confusion is, I postulated, in part a result of deliberate obfuscation by the left, and sure enough, I was able to tot up repeated examples of cases in which Democrats referred to parts of Obamacare which poll-test well as "Obamacare", but blame the unpopular parts on the "Affordable Care Act".

Posted by: torquewrench at February 05, 2014 01:37 PM (gqT4g)

Jimmy Kimmel had a segment on his show where he asked random people on the street which they preferred.  Amazing that many people chose one or the other not knowing it was the same thing.

Posted by: Titanium at February 05, 2014 09:43 AM (IgOQg)

287

"I'm a complete fan of the Affordable Care Act, but now I can't sleep at night," Nelson said. "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen."

 

 

Oh sweet special snowflake of course he did.

Posted by: Cheri at February 05, 2014 09:45 AM (G+Wff)

288 Boo F'in Who.

Posted by: Gmac at February 05, 2014 09:49 AM (4pjhs)

289 All is proceeding as I have foreseen.

Posted by: F. Hayek at February 05, 2014 09:49 AM (rFipM)

290 All is proceeding as I have foreseen.

Posted by: Zombie Stalin at February 05, 2014 09:51 AM (rFipM)

291 The Stupid really does Burn....

"We tried to warn you, Maroon...."

Posted by: backhoe at February 05, 2014 09:51 AM (ULH4o)

292 Millions of people like this lady are going to be in jeopardy because they simply don't have enough information about how terrific-sounding socialist plans boomerang to hurt them. Yes, she's clueless, but the major media bears strong responsibility for her woes. Hear me out nowÂ… she likely trusted her TV network that worked as propaganda for Obamacare and actively suppressed conservative views while blackballing Republicans and their warning messages. I understand personal responsibiity and that with a few clicks of a mouse this lady could have heard the other side. But the point is, she trusted what she was told by her president and his major media lapdogs. Now she's going to pay an enormous price for her trust, probably with her health, and maybe with her life. If any good comes out of Obamacare, I hope it's the re-education of the American public about how free capitalism works for betterment, and the shaming of major media held accountable.

Posted by: E.F. Taylor at February 05, 2014 09:53 AM (mzCga)

293 "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen."

Oh, how naive you are. It is exactly how they want it to happen.

Posted by: GWB at February 05, 2014 09:55 AM (mCJmF)

294 "I can't imagine this is how President Obama wanted it to happen." The exact summary of this President and every Progressive idea ever.

Posted by: adc at February 05, 2014 09:59 AM (QRtGH)

295 283

One of my friends is a 55 year old lifelong leftist, industrial plumber/contractor and works sunrise to sunset. Family of three. Wife is stay at home mom. His 2014 quarterly taxes and health care costs increased by something like 15-28%.

He refuses to admit Obamacare/ACA was a bad idea, even when it's costing him money. He sends his daughter to a private Catholic school instead of  public schools because public schools suck.

He certainly isn't stupid, but he's as stubborn as a mule and will never admit to being wrong, especially to me.

So he votes for Jerry Brown and Obama because he hates Republicans more than he hates paying taxes.

Posted by: 13times at February 05, 2014 10:11 AM (fGPLK)

296 "My sympathy meter just pegged zero. It must be broken."

Sure is!  Mine's so far into the negative zone it's wrapped around the bar on the left side.

Posted by: delayna at February 05, 2014 10:28 AM (KnC4k)

297 Danielle, THIS is the reason that the Health Care Reform law was implemented AFTER you voted for Obama a second time, not before, like it was the true CRISIS it was sold as. Bet you wish you had that old broken-down pre-2010 health care system now, donchya? Hope you enjoyed being all historic with your vote and all the laughing you did at Palin, while she was trying to save dummies like you. FAIL

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 05, 2014 10:41 AM (9Bdcz)

298 "My sympathy meter just pegged zero. It must be broken."

I might feel something if she hadn't cheered on fucking the rest of us over.  But, nope.

Posted by: HR at February 05, 2014 10:45 AM (hO8IJ)

299 "Elections have consequences. Your life is one of them, idiot." Point and laugh. You voted for this, enjoy your shit sandwich.

Posted by: gdonovan at February 05, 2014 10:58 AM (re37p)

300 Look on the bright side you dumb twat.  In a year, you may be free of "job lock" as well.  

Posted by: eureka! at February 05, 2014 11:47 AM (xiXna)

301

Ms. Nelson -

 

See me rubbing the tips of my thumb and forefinger together?

 

World's smallest violin playing the world's saddest song.

 

Elections have consequences, you stupid bint.

Posted by: BUTCH at February 05, 2014 11:55 AM (0APJ3)

302 42 There's no cure for dumb.
Posted by: Oscar Meyer at February 05, 2014 12:40 PM (HPNED)

Yeah there is DEATH and she's going to get the cure courtesy of Democrat/Obamacare.

Posted by: Oldcrow at February 06, 2014 07:58 PM (dxHVH)

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