August 07, 2013
— Ace Lisa DePasquale was a little hurt that Jane Pratt, who was a childhood hero of hers for editing teen girls' magazines that appealed to the "Smart Girls," is now peddling Sydney Leathers' Idiot's Guide to Getting Older Married Men to Masturbate for You Over the Internet how-to manual.
I linked this in the sidebar yesterday -- but I assumed she was self-publishing or maybe had some kind of deal via, I don't know, Vivid Entertainment's literary imprint, if you can imagine such a thing.
Nope! Teen Girl's Magazine. (Correction: I'm told it's a women's magazine for girls who used to read the teen magazine Sassy. But see my note at the end.) Click the link to the see the story and read what Jane Pratt thinks is important information for teen girls.
How sad is this?
Teen magazines used to peddle the fantasy of becoming a Fashion Model.
Now they peddle the fantasy of becoming a Vagina Model.
This really made me sad for the pathetic current state of the human condition in America in the Age of Obama. How low will we actually go? When teen magazines are celebrating a half-wit's skill at baiting men into 'batin', how far are we from Idiocracy?
[O]ur culture is increasingly dominated by a celebration of the cheap, base, and vulgar, taking Idiocracy not as a frighteningly plausible warning but rather as a fun model to emulate.When even a teen girl's magazine is celebrating "'batin'" -- instructing teen girls how to masturbate for older married men -- then our society is now championing an essentially animal-level existence. Not just in terms of morality -- the bien pensants will always scoff at such a bourgeois construction -- but also in terms of intellect. Something the bien pensants once pretended to be interested in championing.
This is lower than moral nihilism -- at least nihilism requires some kind of conscious, intellectual determination at the outset.
This is simply a kind of willful devolution, the human animal deciding to give up the higher functions of its brain and go back to pack-feeding and rutting.
Thinking and standards are difficult and boring.But Dumb is Easy and Easy is Holy.
It's become a kneejerk response to praise the awful, to binge on guilty pleasures, to feed upon little but the rankest crap.
Isn't this fun? Isn't this terribly naughty? Isn't this thrilling to the spirit, mind, and senses?
It's none of those things. I stand second to no man in appreciation of the erotic or comically transgressive but that's not what we're seeing here. And I'm a bit of a scholar and fan of the vulgar. But this is simply the crudest form of reality tv television, now spreading to print like genital crabs.
It occurred to me, long ago, that the transgressive is only interesting and naughty and daring if there is actually a line capable of being crossed; it is only having a gress to trans in the first place that gives the step a sense of danger and makes viewers, readers, or participants feel a frisson of "getting away with something naughty."
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So what now, when there are no lines to cross anymore? When there is no boundary across which it may be unsafe to step? When there are no dark and silent woods at all for Red Riding Hood to venture into, but only a carnival landscape of garish neon lights and the unending carnival-barking come-ons of brothel wranglers?
Is there any bottom to be found here, or will we just continue devolving into actual animals?
It's a good piece, if I may so so myself, and if I may not say so myself, @NickKronos and @rdbrewer4 said so too.
A Commenter Says...
This whole thing is awful and tawdry, but XOJane isn't a teen girls magazine. It's a website for grownups who used to read Sassy.
Well, okay, but aren't these dumb magazines still really sold to girls?
But in any event, I lay the same charge at them: Dumbing Down The World.
My objection is really not moral here, per se. It's intellectual (which is actually a type of moral objection, in a way).
What got me is not so much that this is a magazine for girls -- a lot of magazines that are really for girls (Cosmo, etc.) are pretty filthy.
What gets me is that this is the magazine for smart girls. Apparently the smart girls are now Stupid Whores, too.
I actually don't mean that -- many of XOJane's readers objected to the article. But XOJane apparently decided that the whole "Smart Girl" act was getting to be a pain so perhaps just let's go the route of Dumpster Fire Barbeque.
The culture isn't just crude in terms of morality. It's even cruder in terms of intellectual aspiration. We glorify the stupid and unfortunate, or, at least, we pay them to degrade themselves for us so that we may feel superior.
But are we? I would say more but I'd be repeating the whole end of my article.
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I can't say the same for Leathers. She's not a very good piece at all.
Posted by: grognard at August 07, 2013 10:35 AM (/29Nl)
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Posted by: Roy at August 07, 2013 10:40 AM (VndSC)
ace, not sure if you'll see this, but you might want to update the previous post with the fact that the Womens Veterans Association of America is that same group that was going to give Filner an award for his work with sexual abuse victims, then rescinded it when the first accusations started to come out. You posted a column about it at the time.
I find it darkly comic that they're NOW talking about how he used their membership as a personal dating pool. Did they not realize that before?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 10:40 AM (4df7R)
He explained that it went like this "Plan A, Marry money live comfortably. Till Plan B, he's not fun anymore, take as much money of his as you can, find another guy, rinse, repeat." I was horrified, but knew exactly what he meant. There are lots of women who aspire to nothing more than either being kept, or being the other half of a "power couple" if they are particularly ambitious. Normal people are getting far fewer especially in LA.
This shit is what teaches girls that its not only but ACCEPTABLE AND DESIREABLE to be that kind of girl. When i was growing up i distinctly remember being that kind of girl was kind of looked down on as shameful.
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 07, 2013 10:41 AM (r7Ddb)
Sydney Leathers, JaneXO, and Slouching Towards Idiocracy....
sounds like a feminist history class.
Posted by: Mo the Girl at August 07, 2013 10:41 AM (YqXne)
Posted by: mrp at August 07, 2013 10:42 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 07, 2013 10:42 AM (g1DWB)
Is there any bottom to be found here, or will we just continue devolving into actual animals?
That reminds me - what's the difference between an animal and a revolutionary lieberal? The animal at least waits until its offspring is born/hatched to start killing them off.
Posted by: steveegg at August 07, 2013 10:42 AM (o44nj)
i did see a commenter mention that, and it was something that hadn't occurred to me.
My current thinking is that I won't mention that because I want them to talk more. I don't want to do anything to shut them up.
Posted by: ace at August 07, 2013 10:42 AM (/IWYB)
Nope! Teen Girl's Magazine. Click the link to the see the story and read what Jane Pratt thinks is important information for teen girls.
Her last name says it all. And she's so stupid she can't even spell "prat" correctly.
I want kids. But I don't want my kids to have to deal with the filth the current crop of humanity is going to leave behind.
Disgusting.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 10:42 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 07, 2013 10:43 AM (/kI1Q)
>>>He explained that it went like this "Plan A, Marry money live comfortably.
You can't hide your lyin' eyes.
Posted by: Henley and Frey at August 07, 2013 10:43 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Drew in MO at August 07, 2013 10:43 AM (cGlgB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 07, 2013 10:43 AM (ZPrif)
Actually ace, excellent point.
Carlin's "10 words you can't say on TV" was funnier during the bleeping stage.
Once it became OK to say most of them, it lost it's edge.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 10:44 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: alexthechick - Welcome mighty SMODlets! at August 07, 2013 10:44 AM (VtjlW)
When teen magazines are celebrating a half-wit's skill at baiting men into 'batin', how far are we from Idiocracy?
According to every magazine, TV show, movie and book I've ever read, I've been led to assume that it's not terribly hard for a girl/woman to get a man to have sex with her. So I don't see why it would require an instruction manual to get a man to masturbate in a "virtual" relationship.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 10:44 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Shoot Me at August 07, 2013 10:44 AM (qiXMt)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 10:44 AM (Z1/Hr)
Dear Life,
That was a rhetorical question, not a challenge.
Kthx.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 07, 2013 10:44 AM (knoK7)
Posted by: Mark Foley at August 07, 2013 10:46 AM (RGgMp)
Posted by: Bawney Fwank at August 07, 2013 10:46 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Buzzion at August 07, 2013 10:46 AM (auVE3)
You're soaking in it.
Posted by: Madge at August 07, 2013 10:46 AM (eHIJJ)
You're at least a generation off, possibly two.
Roaring twenties.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 07, 2013 10:46 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Dick at August 07, 2013 10:47 AM (6orKY)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 07, 2013 10:47 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Sweet Brown at August 07, 2013 10:47 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Yep at August 07, 2013 10:47 AM (6sqK6)
Posted by: NCKate at August 07, 2013 10:48 AM (nYbxc)
Posted by: Waldo at August 07, 2013 10:48 AM (tCBZk)
Now it's stuff that makes me blush.
Posted by: alexthechick - Welcome mighty SMODlets! at August 07, 2013 02:44 PM (VtjlW)
AtC at the expense of dating myself, remember when it was all about being a go getter, how to get people to take your seriously (dress for success!) encouraging girls to get careers in a man's world, without letting them eat your lunch? Then some dreamy pix of sean cassidy and some make-up how to's.
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 07, 2013 10:48 AM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: Ryan at August 07, 2013 10:48 AM (659DL)
You're at least a generation off, possibly two.
Roaring twenties.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 07, 2013 02:46 PM (/kI1Q)
Fucking Gatsby. I hate that frigging book. If it were possible to murder a fictional character, I'd start with Daisy Buchanan and just work outward from there.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 10:49 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Mark Foley at August 07, 2013 10:49 AM (RGgMp)
Posted by: Waldo at August 07, 2013 10:49 AM (tCBZk)
It's a lot easier to find things to jack off to these days. Posted by: Yep at August 07, 2013 02:47 PM"
If by 'things to jack off to' you meant Sydney Leathers....we didn't need that reminder. *shudder*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 07, 2013 10:49 AM (knoK7)
Posted by: NCKate at August 07, 2013 02:48 PM (nYbxc)
Heh,
Wife told me the other day when we have kids she wants a boy.
"too hard to raise a girl these days."
This from a Classic Liberal mind you. So yeah, we're totally screwed.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 10:49 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 10:49 AM (Z1/Hr)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 07, 2013 10:50 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 07, 2013 10:50 AM (gJ3b4)
i don't mind people acting like animals, but I rather mind them talking like them
Posted by: ace at August 07, 2013 10:51 AM (/IWYB)
I'd have thought throat punching that annoying friend of hers would have been a higher priority.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 07, 2013 10:51 AM (knoK7)
Posted by: Ganymede at August 07, 2013 10:51 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 07, 2013 10:51 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 07, 2013 10:51 AM (v1mq9)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 07, 2013 10:52 AM (odrSa)
I don't even have a problem with jackin' it cyber-style.
I have a problem with this being sold as some kind of fame-conferring, glamorous, sexy thing.
To teenaged girls.
Posted by: ace at August 07, 2013 10:52 AM (/IWYB)
>>>Remember, it's Leftist cant now that there is no dividing line between humans and animals.
They still can't explain away one thing - bacon.
Posted by: Roy at August 07, 2013 10:52 AM (VndSC)
Fucking Gatsby. I hate that frigging book. If it were possible to murder a fictional character, I'd start with Daisy Buchanan and just work outward from there.
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You and me both. And I had to read that book almost every single year from 7th grade on.
>.<
Posted by: junior at August 07, 2013 10:52 AM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 02:49 PM (Z1/Hr)
Balderdash.
Aristotle deemed us "rational animals" never forget the first part, it's equally important.
Precisely what separates us from animals is our ability for critical thinking which gives rise to morality.
When we act merely like animals we debase ourselves.
You can debase yourself all you want, but first you will blow me.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 10:52 AM (GaqMa)
aka Gold Diggers. They're almost as old as prostitution itself. And less honorable.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 07, 2013 10:52 AM (eHIJJ)
Weiner. Filner. Wotsername the chick what was playing with Weiner. Ah, the really important stuff!
Posted by: MrScribbler at August 07, 2013 10:52 AM (kaGpp)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 10:52 AM (/Crba)
Truth is we are and always have been ~animals~.
The whole point of the human brain is so that we DON'T act like animals. We use reason and forethought and (once upon a time) morality to inform our behavior. All three of those things has been steadily eroded over the last several decades.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 10:52 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: alexthechick - Welcome mighty SMODlets! at August 07, 2013 02:44 PM (VtjlW)
Yeah, my BBF's granddaughter just got her baby Daddy to spring for breast implants for her 21st birthday. This girl is naturally very pretty with a cute little figure especially post baby, but, she is a black hole of need with regards to him buying her stuff--Coach purses, designer everything, etc, money to blow every time she goes out the door--hundreds, not twenties. She is the single most amoral and manipulative person that I have ever met. I guess it is good thing she finally found someone who could afford to support her.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 10:53 AM (kXoT0)
I would like to blame this on Obama but its an MTV thing with a big Bill Clinton assist.
MTV in the 90's had their sitcoms that had issues with teens and preteens that would make daytime Soap Operas look like a bible study show.
Posted by: polynikes at August 07, 2013 10:53 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 07, 2013 10:53 AM (GjPnA)
Posted by: Lauren at August 07, 2013 10:53 AM (ELdpj)
In all fairness, you're supposed to feel that way about her. So it's really accomplished its mission hasn't it?
*runs away*
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at August 07, 2013 02:51 PM (tWmgi)
I said I'd START with her. Not one character in that book would survive when my bloodbath was completed.
Then I'd move on to that godawful "Gone With the Wind."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 10:53 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Sgt. Joe Friday at August 07, 2013 10:54 AM (/Crba)
"Calling a girl a slut warns her that there's a line: she can be sexual but not too sexual." -- Feminist idiot who writes for Slate
IOW, there is no line, ever. Fork a goat, you go girl! Fork a toddler, yay feminism! Jump on poor deceased Aunt Mabel at her viewing. Whut whut!
Really, read that quote again. It's arguing anything you can think of is AOK.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 07, 2013 10:54 AM (A0glY)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 07, 2013 10:54 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 07, 2013 10:54 AM (odrSa)
52 - "fiction characters fit for murder" probably deserves its own thread.
Mine - Every member of the Spider Robinson "Callahan's Bar" gang.
Although maybe the later works should be kept around as an example of the effect of pot on an author's creative process.
Posted by: ZBBMcFate at August 07, 2013 10:54 AM (Hj9yW)
This appears to be correct. Although I'd put "grownups" in quotes.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 07, 2013 10:54 AM (uYaYO)
You're at least a generation off, possibly two.
Roaring twenties.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 07, 2013 02:46 PM (/kI1Q)
Point noted - after all, the term "sex kitten" came about by the 1950s.
Counter-point - it took the Boomers taking control of things for it to become "mainstream" absent war.
Posted by: steveegg at August 07, 2013 10:54 AM (o44nj)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 10:54 AM (/Crba)
To teenaged girls.
Posted by: ace at August 07, 2013 02:52 PM (/IWYB)
Absolutely, the BFF's gd that I referenced has been having sex since she was 12. Mom is an Earth Mother type who encouraged her to explore her body since it was natural and wholesome. Really, a 12 year old on birth control?
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 10:55 AM (kXoT0)
Since organized religion, well Judea-Christian religion, has been effectively discredited over the last fifty years by these same people, that now proper behavior for young girls is to find themselves, and be attractive to, rich sugar daddies (rich young men from Middle-Eastern Oil families).
Yep, destroying western civilization and devolving to a culture of ancient, 7th century war lords. This is progress.
Posted by: Desperation at August 07, 2013 10:55 AM (YuWcM)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 07, 2013 10:55 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 10:55 AM (Z1/Hr)
Ace, you're the best, but I don't think that janexo.com is a teen website. I can't pull it up at work because it's flagged as "Adult/Mature", but the site's description on Bing is "where women go when they are being selfish, and where their selfishishness is applauded". (Which is deplorable in its own right. Apparently, it's okay to celebrate being a self-centered tw-t because feminism.)
Posted by: Babs at August 07, 2013 10:55 AM (tl7W6)
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Posted by: Ganymede at August 07, 2013 10:56 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2013 10:56 AM (pHivF)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 07, 2013 10:56 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 07, 2013 10:56 AM (STQ9E)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 02:54 PM (/Crba)
Mom died in a car wreck, left him a thriving business and $500K in life insurance.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 10:56 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Old Perv at August 07, 2013 10:56 AM (POWQ9)
Posted by: backhoe at August 07, 2013 10:56 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 02:53 PM (kXoT0)
Until the looks start to fade and he starts looking for greener pastures.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 10:56 AM (4df7R)
Asian. Game. Shows. Go find it on YouTube. We're there.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 07, 2013 10:56 AM (A0glY)
The whole point of the human brain is so that we DON'T act like animals. We use reason and forethought and (once upon a time) morality to inform our behavior. All three of those things has been steadily eroded over the last several decades.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 07, 2013 02:52 PM (4df7R)
Which is why the lieberals are changing the breakpoint between "animal" and "human" to killing off our offspring at every age of development rather than waiting until they're born/hatched. All the other breakpoints have been smashed.
Posted by: steveegg at August 07, 2013 10:56 AM (o44nj)
I have a problem with this being sold as some kind of fame-conferring, glamorous, sexy thing.
To teenaged girls.
Posted by: ace at August 07, 2013 02:52 PM (/IWYB)
seriously.
i remember when most young teen girls around me wanted a horse or a pony, to win blue ribbons, and get good grades so they wouldnt be in trouble with the folks. I did however seem to be in semi rural areas on the edge of suburbs or on an island growing up (AF brat) But this shit is crazy I see today. Out here in Cali, when i look at my friends with kids the only "normal" ones seem to be Mormons, acting in what i grew up thinking was age appropriate ways...
As a jew, that really freaks me out.
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 07, 2013 10:57 AM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 02:55 PM
MEAT IS MURDER!
Really? That's a remarkably...aww fuck what am I even trying.
Listen, if we're just animals then lets fight to the death like animals.
'K, sound good?
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 10:57 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 07, 2013 10:57 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: alexthechick - Welcome mighty SMODlets! at August 07, 2013 10:57 AM (VtjlW)
>>>We can't live on your love-scraps, Ace.
well you know this was after the ONT had been posted.
Posted by: ace at August 07, 2013 10:58 AM (/IWYB)
Posted by: Dancing Queen at August 07, 2013 10:58 AM (FDGeg)
12?
Uhh...isn't that Roman Polanski statutory rape territory?
Posted by: EC at August 07, 2013 10:58 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 10:58 AM (Z1/Hr)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 10:58 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 07, 2013 10:58 AM (mSAq8)
Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at August 07, 2013 10:58 AM (RGgMp)
I thought we were in a war when the Boomers started preaching "free love" like it had never been tried and abandoned in the19th century.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 07, 2013 10:58 AM (/kI1Q)
I've wasted my life.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 07, 2013 02:56 PM (/kI1Q)
It is a horror show to watch. She is relentless and he is madly in love with his baby daughter, so she always wins.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 10:58 AM (kXoT0)
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Two words: Snuff films.
That's where all this ends.
Posted by: Nighthawk at August 07, 2013 10:59 AM (OtQXp)
Posted by: Mætenloch at August 07, 2013 10:59 AM (Ipvk0)
Posted by: Rich Old Perv at August 07, 2013 10:59 AM (POWQ9)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 07, 2013 10:59 AM (7ObY1)
Friend of a friend honey-trapped her way into marrying a guy who had money. He was the head of a construction company which later went broke, at which point she moved on.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 02:58 PM (/Crba)
Oh, she will definitely move on... So far, he is managing to keep it going.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 11:00 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 02:58 PM (Z1/Hr)
The very fact that you're discussing art, is QED, proof we're more than merely animals.
You've set up a remarkably false dichotomy of either/or animal/not animal.
Which is frankly PETA level stupid.
But perhaps you really are just a chimp with a keyboard.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 11:00 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Soona at August 07, 2013 11:00 AM (Wc55c)
Posted by: EC at August 07, 2013 02:58 PM (GQ8sn)
I think it depends how old the other participant was.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 11:00 AM (4df7R)
Yeah, but one of them was a plate of home-baked cookies.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 07, 2013 11:01 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 11:01 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2013 11:01 AM (pHivF)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 07, 2013 11:01 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2013 11:02 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Lauren at August 07, 2013 11:02 AM (ELdpj)
Considering how little actual parenting is being done these days, of boys or girls, this outcome shouldn't surprise anyone. Apparently about 90% of Boomer parents really had no idea what the hell they were doing and never cared to find out.
Posted by: rockmom at August 07, 2013 11:02 AM (aBlZ1)
There are reportedly 177 people onboard the Boeing 757.
That's alot of lucky 7's.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 07, 2013 11:02 AM (qM18f)
Posted by: alexthechick - Welcome mighty SMODlets! at August 07, 2013 11:02 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: DocJ at August 07, 2013 11:02 AM (LvaeI)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 02:58 PM (kXoT0)
Uh-oh. Sounds like the type who's not going to like it if the Babydaddy pays more attention to the daughter than to the Babymama.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 11:02 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at August 07, 2013 11:03 AM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Bill and Hillary at August 07, 2013 11:03 AM (rMamm)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 11:03 AM (/Crba)
This stuff makes me want to weep; these people are destroying our daughters, and our future generations.
"Woe unto them that call evil good and good evil; that put darkness for light and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter" Isaiah 5:20.
Posted by: DaveinNC at August 07, 2013 11:03 AM (boNGU)
Uhh...isn't that Roman Polanski statutory rape territory?
Posted by: EC at August 07, 2013 02:58 PM (GQ8sn)
Not with other kids...12-15. She did play in the kiddy rape space with several brainless guys once she got to be 16ish. The guy she is with now is roughly her age, maybe a bit older. When my friend told me 12, I was horrified, no girl at 12 knows enough to decide anything.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 11:03 AM (kXoT0)
aka Gold Diggers. They're almost as old as prostitution itself. And less honorable.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 07, 2013 02:52 PM (eHIJJ)
yeah im just freakin amazed at how young women these days seem to think its the normal and acceptable plan, now. "Gold Digger" used to be spat out as an epithet like "whore" only prostitutes were objects of pity. And a GD was just ... something horrid like a con man, only considered more heartless.
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 07, 2013 11:03 AM (r7Ddb)
I thought we were in a war when the Boomers started preaching "free love" like it had never been tried and abandoned in the19th century.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 07, 2013 02:58 PM (/kI1Q)
I meant "bullets and bombs" war, not "culture war".
Posted by: steveegg at August 07, 2013 11:03 AM (o44nj)
123 Two words: Snuff films. That's where all this ends.
This time the Holocaust will be on pay-per-view?
Posted by: Anachronda at August 07, 2013 11:03 AM (xGZ+b)
Posted by: Mætenloch at August 07, 2013 02:59 PM (Ipvk0)
I thought you were busy this week.
Stop harshing our hate buzz man.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 11:04 AM (GaqMa)
That's where all this ends.
Posted by: Nighthawk at August 07, 2013 02:59 PM (OtQXp)
Clockwork Orange.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 11:04 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 11:04 AM (Z1/Hr)
Posted by: Waldo at August 07, 2013 11:05 AM (tCBZk)
Posted by: Bob at August 07, 2013 11:05 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 03:04 PM (Z1/Hr)
So which ISP are you using again?
Posted by: EC at August 07, 2013 11:05 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 07, 2013 03:02 PM (4df7R)
Yeah, there is some of that on display. I only see them once every few months and then only when I can't avoid it.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 11:05 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: M. Romney at August 07, 2013 11:06 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 07, 2013 03:03 PM (r7Ddb)
It's all about definitions. Now the girl is no longer a "gold digger." Instead, the man becomes her "sugar daddy."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 11:06 AM (4df7R)
Is it that the teeny bopper fanzines are that desperate for anyone to pay attention in the digital world; or is it that like Hollywood, the editors of these mags are deciding to let their freak flags fly openly?
That's been a theory that I've come to - the reason for the big push to normalize every possible sexual perversion is the media/Hollywood wanting to celebrate and do openly what they actually do in private. Not to have it tolerated in their own little corner of the world but to have the whole world celebrate their courage to be really weird and icky.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at August 07, 2013 11:06 AM (hLRSq)
Lest they be accused of racism for holding her to a standard, any standard.
Remember the Time Machine?
In reality, they didn't have to genetically modify the surface dwellers to be stupid, animal-like humans.
We're seeing it was a choice they wanted for themselves . . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 07, 2013 11:06 AM (VjL9S)
Sleeping around should be shameful. Sorry horde, you know I love you, but sex outside a relationship is just way to risky for so many reasons. It should be socially frowned upon.
-
You are correct. Not just in sex, but in lifestyle and work ethic as well. People used to be ashamed of being losers or on welfare, now they are proud of it. We need to shame people more.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 07, 2013 11:06 AM (mSAq8)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 11:06 AM (Z1/Hr)
Surely you jest. It takes at least a roomful of chimpshit to achieve my level of writing excellence.
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 03:04 PM (Z1/Hr)
Your falling shit misspelled "chimpshit".
Posted by: steveegg at August 07, 2013 11:07 AM (o44nj)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 02:55 PM (kXoT0)
Yep, there's nothing more "natural" and green than pumping adolescents with artificial group 1 carcinogen birth control pills. Who cares that they're responsible for the rise in transgendered fish found in fresh water rivers and streams, am-I-rite?
Posted by: Virginia SoCon once again! at August 07, 2013 11:07 AM (+/C3g)
Ah...you missed his point, mostly because you are not a rigid-thinking automaton.
It is the Mandarins (our betters) who decide what is art. And driving man downward, to be as close as possible to animals, is exactly the way they can better control us.
Accepting Jackson Pollack as an artist, and Serrano and all of the rest, demeans our connection to what separates us from those animals.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 07, 2013 11:07 AM (gqgiP)
Now they peddle the fantasy of becoming a Vagina Model." So many things running through my mind, my mind filtering my fingers and my little voice saying, "Don't do it, don't do it"
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitiviy at August 07, 2013 11:08 AM (HVff2)
So did I...people who were there can correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Summer of Love[sic] and associated bullshit took place during the Vietnam War.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 07, 2013 11:08 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: zsasz at August 07, 2013 11:08 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 03:04 PM
I shouldn't engage.
But all the various points I made and you decide to address my joke?
Even Nietzsche, famed for eschewing traditional morality saw us as more than merely animals.
The only philosophers who broach that level of stupid are the rank utilitarians like Peter Singer.
Holy shit guys, our Troll is Singer!
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 11:08 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 11:08 AM (Z1/Hr)
Isn't criticizing this sort of thing kind of treading into that dreaded SoCon territory...?
Snark aside, yeah, I think culture matters. But the minute you bring it up you get a lot of "bible thumper" insults tossed at you. Some of those insults even come from Democrats.
Posted by: @JohnTant at August 07, 2013 11:08 AM (tVWQB)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 11:08 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 07, 2013 03:03 PM (r7Ddb)
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It's still an acceptable term, except nowdays you have to say it with a gutteral snarl.
Posted by: Soona at August 07, 2013 11:08 AM (Wc55c)
Stop harshing our hate buzz man.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 03:04 PM (GaqMa)
Oh I am. My father is gravely ill but it's looking like he may pull through.
I'm just here procrastinating from the other stuff I should be doing. :-)
Posted by: Mætenloch at August 07, 2013 11:09 AM (Ipvk0)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 07, 2013 11:09 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2013 11:09 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 07, 2013 03:06 PM (4df7R)
There are websites where young hotties advertise for Sugar Daddys. They lay out there demands with regards to spending allowances on credit cards, apartments, cars, etc. It is not prostitution because they are careful to couch it in terms of "I am so pretty, I want a relationship in which you to take care of pretty me, so I can take care of fabulous, rich, smart you and make you look good."
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 11:09 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: DaveinNC at August 07, 2013 03:03 PM (boNGU)
I Read this passage in a novel a few days ago, and thought how absolutely perfect it is.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 07, 2013 11:09 AM (gqgiP)
Posted by: steevy at August 07, 2013 11:10 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Mætenloch at August 07, 2013 03:09 PM (Ipvk0)
I was unaware of the gravity, and sorry to hear that.
I withdraw my snarky remark then an apologize most humbly. Prayers for your father.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 11:10 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 11:10 AM (Z1/Hr)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 11:10 AM (/Crba)
Fact is, men are sexual animals and always have and will be. Women were the gatekeepers who kept the animals in control as they had control of the P.
Once the gatekeepers decided to no longer be gatekeepers and distribute the P without regard, society was lost. Men no longer have to marry. Men no longer have to be gentlemen. Men no longer have to work hard. And believe it or not, humor will also suffer because men no longer have to make women laugh.
Posted by: polynikes at August 07, 2013 11:10 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: alexthechick - Welcome mighty SMODlets! at August 07, 2013 11:11 AM (VtjlW)
These days, it is decidedly underwhelming because that IS today's culture.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 03:01 PM (/Crba)
My brain- damaged foster daughter's birth family kept trying to get her laid once she moved back in with them, after (lots of pressure) she turned 19. IT WAS HORRIFIC.
Shes 26 now, got a steady boyfriend and waited until she found a good man might be a nice dad, at 25. I was proud my parenting stuck, despite how hard they tried to ruin her.
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 07, 2013 11:11 AM (r7Ddb)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 07, 2013 11:11 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, fewer than 8 limbs at August 07, 2013 11:11 AM (zUi7I)
Just scanning the thread... and shaking my head. I'm too old for this but not too ignorant. Seriously, I grieve for our society. It's sad that this is what our grandchildren will inherit. Just sad. Sorry about the Doom-i-ness. But I do not want this for my grandchildren.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 07, 2013 11:11 AM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 03:06 PM (Z1/Hr)
Does the song bird discuss it's own beauty?
A sunrise is also a wonderful sight. However it is not even alive.
Because nature produces beauty does not, itself, make it intelligent.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 11:11 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 07, 2013 11:12 AM (STQ9E)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 07, 2013 03:06 PM (mSAq
Good luck with that. We have people who get grants from the National Endowment for the Arts for performance art done live on stage with their own feces.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 11:12 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2013 11:12 AM (pHivF)
There are two ways to address the issue.
One would be shame.
The other would be to cut off the welfare net and let many of these people sink or swim on their own.
Shame would be the humane option, but cutting the welfare net is far more likely to see results.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 03:08 PM (/Crba)
Where did I put my knife?
Posted by: steveegg at August 07, 2013 11:12 AM (o44nj)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 07, 2013 11:12 AM (gJ3b4)
Is there a Radio Disney station in your neck of the woods?
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at August 07, 2013 11:12 AM (epxV4)
The website owners that I hope die in a fire while writhering in pain from syphillis are the creators of Ashley Madison.
Posted by: polynikes at August 07, 2013 11:12 AM (m2CN7)
>>>We have people who get grants from the National Endowment for the Arts for performance art done live on stage with their own feces.
So, we have to stop paying them. Let them do it for shits and grins.
Posted by: Roy at August 07, 2013 11:13 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: zsasz at August 07, 2013 11:14 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 11:14 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 03:10 PM (Z1/Hr)
You've been toying with proving that you are an ignorant ass, and now you've done it.
Good job.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 07, 2013 11:14 AM (gqgiP)
***
Go ahead. This country abandon truth and logic long ago.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 07, 2013 11:14 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 03:10 PM (Z1/Hr)
I never denied animalosity.
I denied being nothing more than animals. ("merely animals")
I noted we are Rational animals.
How many straw men must you kill to make your pitiful point.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 11:15 AM (GaqMa)
This filth will be just a faint memory once Sharia comes to town, insh'Allah.
Posted by: Jaws at August 07, 2013 11:15 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 07, 2013 03:14 PM (gqgiP)
In fairness, I waited until I was married, and have only ever had 1 partner.
So by his definition, I'm probably not "doing it right" anyway.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 11:16 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: polynikes at August 07, 2013 03:12 PM (m2CN7)
Anybody think that Lindsey Lohan, Miley Cyrus, Justin Beiber, et al are acting out because they had appropriate upbringings? Nope, they were used and exploited and then once they were no longer kid phenoms, it got harder and harder to get the press to pay attention and without press coverage, they literally do not exist to themselves.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 11:16 AM (kXoT0)
I don't know how to break this to you, but on 6 November 2012, the USA crossed the Idiocracy Finish Line when we elected a complete incompetent because he successfully convinced 51% of voters that his opponent wanted to give them cancer, outlaw tampons and put Big Bird in binders, or something.
And Honey Boo Boo is even more stupider than Ow! My Balls!
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 07, 2013 11:16 AM (QXlbZ)
but this is what I'm talking about -- it's one thing to watch Jersey Shore, but now we're READING it too?
Posted by: ace at August 07, 2013 11:17 AM (/IWYB)
Posted by: zsasz at August 07, 2013 11:17 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: JQP at August 07, 2013 11:18 AM (U4GjV)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 03:12 PM (kXoT0)
I know it was Canada, but I feel I must mention it: mayonnaise enemas and oral sex, live on stage.
ART.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 11:18 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 11:18 AM (Z1/Hr)
Posted by: Waldo at August 07, 2013 11:18 AM (tCBZk)
The first time our now-19-year-old said that some movie star was "hot," I embarrassed her for a good five minutes by explaining that hot was merely a euphemism for the sexual response, and that there were more elegant and descriptive words available.
It is difficult, but what the fuck else are we going to do with our time?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 07, 2013 11:18 AM (gqgiP)
Posted by: JEM at August 07, 2013 11:18 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 07, 2013 11:18 AM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 11:18 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 07, 2013 11:19 AM (mSAq8)
Reasoning?
Really?
How about instinct. Preprogrammed responses. hardwired behavior.
You are trumpeting your ignorance. Is that your intent?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 07, 2013 11:19 AM (gqgiP)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 07, 2013 11:20 AM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 07, 2013 11:20 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Jaws at August 07, 2013 03:15 PM (4I3Uo)
Exactly! So long as you don't have a problem with hairy men beating and raping your women and children. It'll be paradise!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 11:20 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 07, 2013 11:20 AM (7ObY1)
http://tinyurl.com/cqaqg3z
Posted by: caustic at August 07, 2013 11:20 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2013 11:20 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 07, 2013 03:19 PM (gqgiP)
Meh.
Aristotle has a sad, every time Alasdair MacIntyre is proven right.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 11:20 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: zsasz at August 07, 2013 11:21 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 07, 2013 11:21 AM (uYaYO)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2013 03:20 PM (KXm42)
Nature abhors a vacuum.
Wait..no that's the wrong context for that statement.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 11:22 AM (GaqMa)
>>>I'd say we Went Plaid and overshot it long ago. .
.
.I have a dog that can hit Ludicrous Speed.
Posted by: Registered Voter at August 07, 2013 11:22 AM (RlPjE)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 03:18 PM (Z1/Hr)
That's some quality BS right there. Next time you're being attacked by a wild dog, try reasoning with it about why it shouldn't kill you. Tell me how that goes.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 11:22 AM (4df7R)
>>>And the fear of the vaccuum.
Totally rational fear. It has a human corollary in the "fear of the va-jay-jay".
Posted by: Roy at August 07, 2013 11:22 AM (VndSC)
***
I knew we were in deep trouble when the country said it was OK for Clinton to commit perjury and obstruction of justice to cover up his sex offense because everybody lies about sex.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 07, 2013 11:23 AM (XUKZU)
A sunrise is also a wonderful sight. However it is not even alive.
Because nature produces beauty does not, itself, make it intelligent.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 03:11 PM (GaqMa)
----------------------------------------
You're waxing poetic for a troll?
Hey, Fyscal Clyff. Fuck off!
Posted by: Soona at August 07, 2013 11:23 AM (Wc55c)
Posted by: alexthechick - Welcome mighty SMODlets! at August 07, 2013 11:23 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at August 07, 2013 03:20 PM (EGPJQ)
I have nieces and nephews that I care passionately about. My significant other has two great kids. But, I feel a guilty relief that there is no one on the planet was my child.
I do trust that people of good will, decency, and civility can produce good citizens. The planet survived Rome and other collapsing civilizations, but, damn it is hard to watch and I feel for those of you "with hostages to fortune".
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 11:23 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: tasker at August 07, 2013 11:24 AM (r2PLg)
My wife and I have that same conversation often. It's sad on so many levels.
Posted by: Jaws at August 07, 2013 11:24 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 11:24 AM (Z1/Hr)
Why doesn't some republican, like rand paul or cruz demand equal time and dinner with this guy. Might learn something.
Posted by: caustic at August 07, 2013 11:24 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2013 11:24 AM (pHivF)
>>>Sleeping around should be shameful. Sorry horde, you know I love you, but sex outside a relationship is just way to risky for so many reasons. It should be socially frowned upon.
I agree it should be, don't think it will ever be though.
Posted by: Bigby's Accusing Finger at August 07, 2013 11:25 AM (3ZtZW)
Jackass
All reality shows, where people wallow in others' dirty laundry and people are willing to tell all for a pittance.
Animal brothels in Germany (coming soon to the US)
Cradle to grave welfare
Lying politicians accepted as normal
Sports figures as heroes
These are some of my least favorite things.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 07, 2013 11:25 AM (ccXZP)
One of the reasons I like Tim Tebow and hope he gains a measure of success is that contrary to the MBM's claims, he never proselytizes; he just isn't embarrassed by expressions of faith.
I stopped that shit 15 years ago because it kicked my ass and I couldn't keep up with the 20-year-olds. That you do it at our age is certainly worthy of a prayer and thanks.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 07, 2013 11:25 AM (gqgiP)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 07, 2013 11:25 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 07, 2013 11:25 AM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: Waldo at August 07, 2013 11:25 AM (tCBZk)
Posted by: rickl at August 07, 2013 11:25 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 11:26 AM (/Crba)
The troll is approaching Obama Voter levels of imbecility.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 07, 2013 03:21 PM (uYaYO)
Approaching? From the bottom? All evidence points to a further sinking below even that low line.
Posted by: steveegg at August 07, 2013 11:26 AM (o44nj)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 07, 2013 11:26 AM (gJ3b4)
Oops. You made the fatal troll error at AOSHQ....you became boring.
Goodbye.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 07, 2013 11:26 AM (gqgiP)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 11:26 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Waldo at August 07, 2013 11:26 AM (tCBZk)
The thing I find incredible is that Sydney Leathers is teh kind of person who would taunt the Bearded Lady in a carnival sideshow and laugh.
I do not think she's familiar with the concept of irony.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 11:26 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: steevy at August 07, 2013 11:26 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2013 11:26 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: alexthechick - Welcome mighty SMODlets! at August 07, 2013 11:27 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 03:24 PM (Z1/Hr)
you are definitely an exception to your rule.
Posted by: polynikes at August 07, 2013 11:27 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 03:24 PM (Z1/Hr)
Everyone just sit back and let that sink in. Really bask in it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 11:27 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 11:28 AM (Z1/Hr)
Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at August 07, 2013 03:24 PM (Z1/Hr)
Hi!
*waves*
Posted by: Laser Pointer at August 07, 2013 11:28 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at August 07, 2013 03:20 PM (4df7R)
Yeah, and once us gals get on board with the whole genital mutilation thing, it will be sweet.
OTOH, it would almost be worth it to watch the NAGs, NARAL, Code Pink, Komen, Planned Parenthood, Flukes, and other womyn pukes realize that, "Oh shit, we got to sit down, shut up, and squeeze out a baby every year until Achmed gets tired of us. Then, after that, we have to pray that he will still feed us rather than beating us to death for some imagined crime."
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 11:28 AM (kXoT0)
I. Devout faith and hard work builds a strong nation.
II. The nation becomes prosperous and moves away from God.
III. The nation declines... precipitously ... as a result of its loss of faith
IV. Survivors of the collapse... the strong and faithful... survive and return to Phase 1.
(We are deep into Phase III, BTW).
It isn't necessary for the Cycle of Apostasy to be strictly a religious phenomenon. It is utterly explainable in secular terms.
1. Hard work and delayed gratification enables a nation to build and store wealth.
2. As the nation grows wealthy, there is less need for hard work and self-denial because of the wealth the nation has banked. vWhen enough wealth is banked, the nation becomes capable of supporting a non-productive class.
3. As the non-productive class expands and the work ethic declines, the national wealth is exhausted, leading to collapse.
4. Only those who have maintained the work ethic and the ability for self-denial survive to rebuild.
Once again, we are in Phase 3 of the Cycle.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 07, 2013 11:28 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: NCwoof at August 07, 2013 11:28 AM (aUQgu)
I am a Boomer. I grew up in the age when girls were loose if they went "all the way." Girls in my high school who got pregnant went to the home for unwed mothers or to stay with an out of town relative until the baby was born, although most got hastily arranged marriages.
I didn't sign on to any of this. I do not allow my grandkids to even use the word "fart" in public, let alone this other stuff. My children do not participate in this type of stuff, nor do my grandkids.
Heck, not only do I not have tattoos, I don't even have pierced ears!
This has been pushed by Hollywood and the media, and because of the breakdown in the family (another result of the sexual revolution warned about by several Popes but everyone thought they were just being meanies) we will have more and more of this.
It is rather like the slums of 18th century London, only instead of gin mills we have meth and crack. Unfortunately, I do not see a John Wesley on the horizon to ignite a Great Awakening.
Posted by: Miss Marple at August 07, 2013 11:28 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at August 07, 2013 11:29 AM (7ObY1)
>>>But if you've ever owned a dog or cat, you know they make educated choices. Reasoning.
How many internet cat videos did it take to develop that hypothesis?
Posted by: Roy at August 07, 2013 11:29 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 07, 2013 11:29 AM (/Crba)
@Soona,
I have work to do an I'm stalling.
Also, somewhat ironically my comps paper is on the relationships between animals and humans as it applies to research.
Or as I put it to BChochran, "Kill all the animals, cure all the humans."
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 11:29 AM (GaqMa)
Looking back at the "appalling" LTZ *now* is like looking back to Leave it to Beaver when I was in kollege in the late '80's.
Posted by: Jaws at August 07, 2013 11:29 AM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 07, 2013 11:29 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: ejo at August 07, 2013 11:29 AM (GXvSO)
*taps foot* So. You don't care about the goats? You're fine with a little goat rape? Hmmmm?
*crosses arms too*
Posted by: alexthechick - Welcome mighty SMODlets! at August 07, 2013 03:27 PM (VtjlW)
Well according to Fyscyl Clyff we're all just animals, so goats (and their kids) were included in my "women and children" statement.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 11:30 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: eleven at August 07, 2013 11:30 AM (KXm42)
>>> I once tried reasoning with a snapping turtle, I do not recommend it.
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.I am sooo stealing that line. Goes very nicely with the "are the voices in my head bothering you" pick up line.
Posted by: Registered Voter at August 07, 2013 11:30 AM (RlPjE)
Out here in Cali, when i look at my friends with kids the only "normal" ones seem to be Mormons, acting in what i grew up thinking was age appropriate ways...
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Someone did a (apparently not very successful) Pride and Prejudice remake about a decade ago set in the modern era. iirc, they had to make the cast Mormons, because that's the only large cultural group they could find that would care about the mores in the book these days.
Posted by: junior at August 07, 2013 11:30 AM (UWFpX)
Date of decline? The institution of the designated hitter rule.
Posted by: NCwoof at August 07, 2013 03:28 PM (aUQgu)
George Will, is that you?
Posted by: steveegg at August 07, 2013 11:30 AM (o44nj)
I'd say that Bill Clinton had a lot to do with the current guttering in the US. But it's not just him. He was an accelerant, though.
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For myself, I think the first indication of the fall into immorality was back in the 60's when I first saw a poster of all the Disney cartoon characters in various acts of sex. Even back then, when I was young, that saddened me.
Posted by: Soona at August 07, 2013 11:31 AM (Wc55c)
*gets squirted in the face*
HEY!
*jumps on the counter*
*gets squirted in the face*
HEY!
*jumps on the counter*
*gets squirted in the face*
HEY!
*jumps on the counter*
*gets squirted in the face*
HEY!
*jumps on the counter*
*gets squirted in the face*
HEY!
*jumps on the counter*
*gets squirted in the face*
HEY!
*jumps on the counter*
*gets squirted in the face*
HEY!
*jumps on the counter*
*gets squirted in the face*
HEY!
[Next day]
*jumps on the counter*
*gets squirted in the face*
HEY!
Posted by: HeatherRadish's cats at August 07, 2013 11:31 AM (/kI1Q)
Strangely enough, they were.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 11:32 AM (kXoT0)
@CBD,
I got lucky.
Also I still feel bad for snarking at Maet, didn't know why he was gone, that played into my wording probably.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 11:32 AM (GaqMa)
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I also say that anytime President Bullshit Walks is depicted.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 07, 2013 11:32 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 07, 2013 11:32 AM (pHivF)
Posted by: tasker at August 07, 2013 11:33 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: steevy at August 07, 2013 11:33 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at August 07, 2013 11:34 AM (4df7R)
Our younger brat's best friend turned in to quite the little liar to cover up her older boyfriend (I am kicking myself for not dropping a dime on him for statutory rape).
She used us as cover once. I warned her once. She kept at it, so we cut her off. Our brat was furious and put off and blah, blah, blah. But now? She gets it.
The worst part is that she is an only child, and her parents did less about it than we did.
They were too busy with their rescue dogs and expensive tats.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 07, 2013 11:34 AM (gqgiP)
Posted by: fluffy at August 07, 2013 11:34 AM (zBjWY)
Which reminds me I need to find a torrent of that.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 07, 2013 11:34 AM (uYaYO)
Posted by: ejo at August 07, 2013 11:34 AM (GXvSO)
Posted by: Tom Hagen at August 07, 2013 11:34 AM (ZuiHO)
That's ultimately what sets us apart. That is our unique gift from God that as humans, we can aspire to become something greater than what we are born to.
Not even angels have that.
And when you see people behaving like mere trash, it's because they don't aspire to be more than trash; and perhaps cannot.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 07, 2013 11:35 AM (QXlbZ)
Posted by: zsasz at August 07, 2013 11:35 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Bob Filner at August 07, 2013 11:36 AM (nSvN3)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 07, 2013 11:36 AM (odrSa)
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It sure ain't rocket science noticing that the further left this country has become, the worse off we are becoming. As civilized and moral humans, as beings that live independent, prospering lives. We're definitely losing our way and our descent (moral, ethical, economical) is aligned with our leftward shift. The disintegration is getting unbearable to witness.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 07, 2013 11:36 AM (LFvB+)
Posted by: zombie at August 07, 2013 11:36 AM (+cx5n)
'Tis a sad state of affairs when mediocrity itself is something to aspire to.
America continues its slouch into destruction unimpeded.
Posted by: Jollyroger at August 07, 2013 11:37 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: steevy at August 07, 2013 11:37 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at August 07, 2013 11:37 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 07, 2013 11:37 AM (odrSa)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 07, 2013 11:38 AM (di+Lf)
Re: xoJane.com, a quick headline scan:
Wanna Thank Your Mother: Man Butts Are In, And I Am Into That
I Know It's Kind Of Hipstery, But I'm Super Into Novelty Tanks Right Now
The Easiest Glitter Nail Polish Removal Trick Ever
UGH, I SUCK At Handling Racial Microaggressions
And for some reason there's a whole subsection on rihanna.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 07, 2013 11:38 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Waldo at August 07, 2013 11:38 AM (tCBZk)
"Like saying "I'd hit it!" any time a female is depicted?"
You do realize that is a long running inside joke at the HQ, correct?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at August 07, 2013 11:39 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Waldo at August 07, 2013 11:40 AM (tCBZk)
Animals don't aspire.
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 07, 2013 03:35 PM (QXlbZ)
That is why animals can continue to function even though they are part of the food chain. They have no ability to think of the future and its possible consequences.
This allows antelopes to return to grazing so soon after one of their buddies just got taken down by a lion. Humans try to not to repeat actions that have resulted in bad consequences.
Posted by: polynikes at August 07, 2013 11:41 AM (m2CN7)
Every time some Lefty would go off about 'McCarthy's demagoguery', Buckley would respond with, "What demagoguery?"
Posted by: No way I'm Putting my Name on This, Bexause not-PC at August 07, 2013 11:41 AM (aDwsi)
I'm going to connect this story to the last one, since it should be (and probably already has):
Of COURSE it's about morality!! Look at what is going on all around us, and one of the biggest problems that exists in our society is the fact that people believe they are free to have sex with anybody they want.
You know, people all those years ago didn't object to that because they wanted to be prudes. They objected because societies break down when you have girls who want to bang anybody/anything, like they're men, and when you have congressmen who prey on them.
How is it we live in a world where women are being pawed on by monsters, and there isn't a universal cry, starting with the woman who is being pawed, and by EVERY OTHER MALE IN THE VICINITY telling him, no, it's not ok. It doesn't matter if you are a congressman or president or anyone else. It's not ok.
So stop it. Or expect the real men of this world to knock your teeth out of your mouth, and there isn't a court in this country who should EVER consider prosecuting.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 07, 2013 11:42 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 07, 2013 03:36 PM (LFvB+)
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I'm going to make a bet. When the 2014 elections start getting nearer and the candidates start throwing their hats into the ring, we'll be getting a lot of discussion on the evils of socons. Why should socons be telling us what's right and wrong or morally degrading.
We need to talk only about fiscal issues.
Watch for it.
Posted by: Soona at August 07, 2013 11:43 AM (Wc55c)
Is this for real? It had better not be for real. That "word", if it isn't stopped, is eventually going to cause a good old fashioned curbstomping.
Posted by: Jaws at August 07, 2013 11:44 AM (4I3Uo)
Same reason we don't hang pedophiles from lampposts. There are always excusers and enablers who step in to shame those of us with moral fiber into doing nothing. Think anybody in Florida failed to learn what happens to you if you defend yourself from a Black Yute beating your ass into the ground--lie back and enjoy it, it will be over soon.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 11:46 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Gorilla who aspires at August 07, 2013 11:46 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: RWC at August 07, 2013 11:48 AM (fWAjv)
No degradation surprises me anymore. Our civilization has been on the slow boat to Kurtz's compound for about a century.
Posted by: Feh at August 07, 2013 11:49 AM (LLrch)
Love ya, Soona, but, I can't take that bet. It will be done here at AoSHQ over and over again--more in sorrow than in anger--as we are twitted to stop driving people away from us over infanticide or other social issues, which, are loser issues.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 11:49 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 07, 2013 11:49 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 07, 2013 03:49 PM (8sCoq)
Particularly a culture that hands out condoms to pre-teens and supports abortion without parental notification...so that, oh, I don't know a parent could make sure their 13 year old daughter is not quietly hemorraghing to death in her canopy bed.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at August 07, 2013 11:51 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 07, 2013 11:52 AM (8sCoq)
"UGH, I SUCK At Handling Racial Microaggressions"
Is this for real? It had better not be for real.
Posted by: Jaws
I consider your questioning of my veracity a nano-aggression:
http://tinyurl.com/ltfllsy
And from the article:
The term “racial microaggression” was first used in the 1970s by psychiatrist Chester Pierce, MD. A definition of the term from Dr. Derald Wing Sue, a psychology professor at Columbia University, states, in part, that “Racial microaggressions are the brief and everyday slights, insults, indignities and denigrating messages sent to people of color.”
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 07, 2013 11:52 AM (kdS6q)
if you kill God, you also kill the idea of an externally-imposed code of human conduct. When that's gone, there is no right or wrong. Every behavior becomes acceptable.
Posted by: Jones in CO at August 07, 2013 11:54 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: BarakaTarkata at August 07, 2013 11:59 AM (si4cu)
Posted by: Desperate for Inattention at August 07, 2013 12:00 PM (ymovd)
Posted by: Desperate for Inattention at August 07, 2013 12:02 PM (ymovd)
Posted by: Feh at August 07, 2013 12:07 PM (LLrch)
Posted by: Feh at August 07, 2013 12:09 PM (LLrch)
Posted by: Y-not popping in on the phone at August 07, 2013 12:19 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: eveofdestruction at August 07, 2013 12:26 PM (pVfba)
Stop harshing our hate buzz man.
Posted by: tsrblke at August 07, 2013 03:04 PM (GaqMa)
Oh I am. My father is gravely ill but it's looking like he may pull through.
I'm just here procrastinating from the other stuff I should be doing. :-)
Posted by: Mætenloch at August 07, 2013 03:09 PM (Ipvk0)
Oh dear. Huge prayers up Maet!
Posted by: jem at August 07, 2013 12:29 PM (fM4kr)
To be fair the wild dog might be reasoning, "Lunch!", so it's not necessarily an irrational animal. Now, is that instinct or reasoning? That's actually a provocative question. At what point is it discernible for the sake of species fitness?
I don't know. We survive at the top of the food chain because we have a nice cerebrum and most of us choose to use it. But where is the line that says either, "I'm doing this because I can't help myself," or "I'm doing this because I choose to in order to survive"?
The line can get blurry.
As for wild dogs' art preferences, it climaxed (and I would argue collapsed) when they did a portrait playing cards. Completely irrational and unreasoned.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 07, 2013 12:38 PM (eHIJJ)
You just can't make this stuff up.
Posted by: caustic at August 07, 2013 12:43 PM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Decaying Morals at August 07, 2013 12:44 PM (MlqTY)
Posted by: MoeRon at August 07, 2013 01:22 PM (TFsVB)
So is the rest of the essay. Good work.
(Sydney Leathers, indeed.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 08, 2013 07:36 AM (BDU/a)
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Ah, well. At least I'll finish out what's left of my life in the golden age of the idiocracy, in which we still care whose ass it is and why it's farting.
Posted by: Anachronda at August 07, 2013 10:35 AM (FzhYM)