September 23, 2013
— Ace Great culture you've got there, Savage Animals.
Lieutenant Nigara was a well-respected officer whose work went far beyond the female body searches that fill the days of many policewomen. But today, Nigara, the top policewoman in Helmand province, died from her wounds after being shot twice on her way to work, just three months after her predecessor was assassinated in the same way by attackers who have never been identified.The death was the latest in a campaign of assassinations, intimidation, assaults and kidnappings of prominent women around Afghanistan that has raised fears that the modest gains made by women in the last decade will be wiped out as western troops head home.
The New York Times interviewed her recently. She said she loved her job and wasn't afraid of the Taliban's bloody, actual War on Women.
In an interview this month, Lieutenant Nigara said she was undeterred by the deaths of her two colleagues. She told of living with constant death threats and in near poverty after her brother, also a police officer, was shot and paralyzed. She had been caring for him and his four children, in addition to doing her job.“I’m living in a ramshackle house, and whenever I come back there from duty, I smile to my husband that I am alive,” she said.
She added: “I love this job, and I see my countrymen in trouble and the country in a critical situation, and I feel women’s role is important in policing.”
Lieutenant Nigara originally joined the force during the Communist era in the early 1990s, and she returned after the fall of the Taliban.
She recounted how in 2006 she stopped a would-be suicide bomber, who was wearing an explosive vest, by throwing her arms around him in a bearhug. She apprehended insurgents and drug smugglers several times, even though they were disguised in burqas. And she said she once climbed onto a rooftop to capture an insurgent sniper.
“I am receiving threats on a daily basis,” she said. “The smugglers and terrorists are threatening me, saying I should give up, but I tell them that I am an Afghan woman, and I won’t leave the job as long as there is blood in my veins.”
I have a feeling that she was among the anonymous interview subjects of this NYT piece, in which Afghanistan policewoman noted that sexual harassment and even rape were part of the job.
The report, which the United Nations has circulated only among senior Afghan officials at the Interior Ministry, found that about 90 percent of the policewomen interviewed described sexual harassment and sexual violence as a serious problem, and that about 70 percent of the policewomen said that they had personally experienced sexual harassment or sexual violence themselves, according to people who saw the report or had it described to them.While a much smaller fraction reported either being raped or otherwise sexually assaulted, the overall picture was of a police force in which women were constantly at risk.
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WomenÂ’s rights advocates said that because Afghan policewomen were afraid of being penalized for revealing the problem, it was extremely difficult to get them to talk about abuse. That is all the more true if the person committing the sexual abuse is their commander or one of his close friends on the police force.
The policewomen interviewed by The Times said they feared being fired or demoted, or being sent to work in a job that was far away from their home if they complained.
Most policewomen are low-level security screeners at checkpoints or government buildings, and in many instances they are the only person earning money in the family and desperately need their salaries — usually around $240 per month.
A further disincentive to talking publicly about sexual abuse or coercion is that many Afghans already believe female police officers have loose morals simply because they are willing to work in public with men who are not relatives. If a woman admits that she is under pressure to have sex, conservative relatives might force her to quit — or even kill her to expiate the perceived dishonor to the family.
As for Nigara's predecessor as the country's top policewoman: In April, Lt. Islam Bibi reported that her own brother had attempted to murder her three times.
On the fourth of July, she was murdered.
Many human rights campaigners say Lt BibiÂ’s murder is just one example illustrating how a reversal is already under way.Last month, in a decision that attracted little public attention, a court freed the in-laws of a young woman who had been tortured for refusing to be married off at the age of 13 or 14. And there is a growing backlash against a presidential decree designed to protect women.
You know what would be an interesting experiment?
A widespread, First-World-Wide asylum for Afghan women.
Take their women. Well, not take them; just offer them a way out. Let the population plunge and in 40 years you've got no problems.
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Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 12:09 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 12:09 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: rd at September 23, 2013 12:11 PM (D+lxs)
Posted by: Lucy - The Doctor is In 5 Cents [/i] at September 23, 2013 12:11 PM (U2UQk)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 04:09 PM (/PCJa)
Strange how well that works isn't it?
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I wonder thought how many would come ace, between the Stockholm syndrome and those who think they can overcome savagery.
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at September 23, 2013 12:11 PM (Sj72w)
"Many human rights campaigners say Lt BibiÂ’s murder is just one example illustrating how a reversal is already under way."
That's perfectly fine to the Left so long as the sin of Western intervention (Imperialism/Colonialism) is expiated. And if it needs the blood of the innoccent to wash away that sin, then so be it.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Happy Hour! Cocktails of Betrayal 50% Off! at September 23, 2013 12:11 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 23, 2013 12:12 PM (0Jb7F)
Posted by: Definition of fair trade at September 23, 2013 12:12 PM (nsOJa)
About ten years ago I realized we need a Former Muslim Protection Program. Everything is a death sentence in Islam practically, but especially offending 'honor,' blasphemy, shirk, fitna, and apostasy. And women are executed for being raped sometimes.
Afghan women would never leave though. Too scared, brainwashed, and not believing anyone could stand up to the power of the Mullahs and Allah. Some of them would leave, but only to recruit jihadis or splodey themselves.
Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 12:12 PM (sOtz/)
You'd think the Afghan women would take us up on that offer but they'd have to ask the menfolk for permission to leave, then walk behind 2 male relatives and we're not about to let the guys in or anything....
Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:13 PM (3ZtZW)
Sorry Ace... but just like the Mom of the Boston Bombers... there are Islamic women who should not be given access to the US...
Some of them are just plain whacked by Western Standards....
Its like the Battered Wife syndrome.... abused but they seem to love it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 23, 2013 12:13 PM (lZBBB)
Taliban are the honorable representatives of Islam. Ladies and gentlemen: THIS is your Muslim Religion of Peace. I think the US needs another "urinate on Muhammed" day.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at September 23, 2013 12:13 PM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 12:14 PM (/PCJa)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 23, 2013 12:14 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 23, 2013 12:14 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 12:14 PM (j8JLb)
Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2013 12:15 PM (9XBK2)
He was so eloquent and sad. Funny that he didn't say a word about the subhuman aspects of his culture.
And offering asylum to Afghan women wouldn't work. They tracked down the former girl with the greenish-yellow eyes who was on the cover of the National Geographic, and now she's a middle-aged sourpuss with fifty children. She hates everyone and everything and just wants to be left alone, living under her husband's thumb. The brainwashing was a success, doctor!
Tribalism trumps all. That's what 2001-2013 taught me. Our reaction from now on should be just to destroy, not try to build.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 23, 2013 12:15 PM (TJw7K)
Posted by: John W. at September 23, 2013 12:15 PM (icMTF)
Posted by: toby928© at September 23, 2013 12:15 PM (QupBk)
I actually have no problem with this. And hey, serious you guys, they can have all the free abortions and birth control they want because the Middle Class! Winning!
/freedom
Posted by: sans_sheriff at September 23, 2013 12:15 PM (Lljg2)
Waiting for US based Muzzie spokesmen to condemn killing... * yawn * I think I'll be waiting a long time.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at September 23, 2013 12:16 PM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: Ben at September 23, 2013 12:16 PM (FvrXS)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 23, 2013 12:16 PM (659DL)
Posted by: palerider at September 23, 2013 12:16 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 23, 2013 12:16 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:17 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 23, 2013 12:17 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Savage Animal League at September 23, 2013 12:17 PM (Pr6hk)
Congratulating themselves on not being racist like we are. How dare we condemn this non-Western culture, etc.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 23, 2013 12:17 PM (/kI1Q)
Take their women. Well, not take them; just offer them a way out. Let the population plunge and in 40 years you've got no problems.
Ace, how about a trade of women like her for Hillary, Boxer, Pelosi, etc. No way in the world we would come out worse off.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at September 23, 2013 12:17 PM (X+nFp)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (j8JLb)
Posted by: Ian S. at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (B/VB5)
I would like to reiterate my objection to comparing these subhuman wastes of DNA to animals. Animals has a reason for their slaughter.
"Animals don't wage war, we should be more like animals all the time!"
Posted by: PETA and other Ilk at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (Sj72w)
>>>Ummm, they aren't very pretty
Thats why they like dancing boys, silly. Glee is like the top show in AfPak.
Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: EC at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (GQ8sn)
Who the fuck thinks that musk is anything but disgusting?
Posted by: grognard at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (/29Nl)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (/PCJa)
I'm all for Afgan women and girl refugees coming here. New names, new lives, none of their male relatives.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (sj9LN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (DmNpO)
Hey, you try hitting the right one in three tries when they're all wearing burqas.
Posted by: Mahmound al-Bibi at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (8ZskC)
Samantha Lewthwaite trained female suicide bombers in Somalia and was seen barking orders in Arabic during the attack. They cut off the hands and burned off the faces of the victims in the mall.
The good news is the Kenyans have reported that they've killed her.
Muslim women are often no better than Muslim men.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (TJw7K)
You know what would be an interesting experiment?
A widespread, First-World-Wide asylum for Afghan women.
Translation: Ace hasn't been laid in ages and those standards are a slidin'.
Posted by: mugiwara at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (W7ffl)
All the answers you need for an analysis of women's issues in Afghanistan and be found in an autopsy.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at September 23, 2013 12:20 PM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 04:18 PM (DmNpO)
Yeah but expect the media to cut the tape to "I...really...want...to...shut...down...Obama....eleventy"
Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at September 23, 2013 12:20 PM (Sj72w)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 04:18 PM (DmNpO)
How dare he make it so the base expects us to TRY... We'll get tossed off the dinner circuit for sure.
Posted by: Typical RINO at September 23, 2013 12:20 PM (Pr6hk)
Who the fuck thinks that musk is anything but disgusting?
Shit. The goats. Sorry, answered my own question.
Posted by: grognard at September 23, 2013 12:20 PM (/29Nl)
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 23, 2013 12:20 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 12:21 PM (qyfb5)
I'm still for it, but the way we run immigration and national security it will be a disaster. There is no jihad threat doctrine any more. Obama ditched all the materials in 2011. Let that sink in for a minute.
Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 12:21 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: CarolT at September 23, 2013 12:21 PM (XN0LR)
The problem is that our Administrations policies... for a few administrations... have been flawed.
Words DO matter... because wrong words lead to bad thinking...
The Cold War was never Democracy, against Communism.... it was a REPUBLIC against Socialism.
We never should have tried to spread Democracy.... we should have enforced the idea of a Republic with a US Bill of Rights.... because once Sharia law is mentioned in their Founding documents (Constitution) we screwed up.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 23, 2013 12:21 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (659DL)
>>>Let the population plunge and in 40 years you've got no problems.<<<
That is, if you don't consider herds of Arabic-speaking man-goats to be a "problem".
Posted by: Roy at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: Afghani Goat Fucker at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (32Ze2)
Assassinating men, women and children in Kenya, well, because they are not Muslim.
Killing about 3,000 innocent people, well, because you have a grievance and don't like their culture. Or religion.
These people are cowards. Nothing else. They attack the weak and defenseless. Just because.
And I've noticed all the Muslim organization on our evening news programs resoundingly and without qualification condemning this pattern of behavior.
Posted by: Marcus at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: RS at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (YAGV/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (sOtz/)
Considering the amount of equipment we have over there, let's just start a program of arming all the women.
Let them work it out for themselves once the playing field is leveled.
Posted by: jwest at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (u2a4R)
The French?
Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 23, 2013 04:20 PM (VtjlW)
Yeah, we have some of those too. Also pretty damn ripe.
Seriously, do these men not understand that their stench contains pheromones that make other men want to fucking kill them with fire when they smell that?
Posted by: grognard at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 23, 2013 12:23 PM (659DL)
Posted by: Lucy - The Doctor is In 5 Cents [/i] at September 23, 2013 12:23 PM (U2UQk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 12:23 PM (9Xc5j)
11 We'll trade you some of your Afghan wimmens for Janeane Garofalo. Posted by: Definition of fair trade at September 23, 2013 04:12 PM
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Garofalo? Echh. How about some goats instead?
Posted by: Afghani Men at September 23, 2013 12:23 PM (8GKDa)
Posted by: Long Shanks at September 23, 2013 12:24 PM (xWW96)
>>Seriously, do these men not understand that their stench contains pheromones that make other men want to fucking kill them with fire when they smell that?<<
Maybe that is how to stop the Taliban violence - just soap and water.
Posted by: Roy at September 23, 2013 12:24 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 23, 2013 12:24 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 23, 2013 12:24 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 12:24 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Marcus at September 23, 2013 12:25 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Null at September 23, 2013 12:25 PM (P7hip)
Posted by: CarolT at September 23, 2013 12:25 PM (XN0LR)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 23, 2013 12:25 PM (659DL)
Posted by: toby928© at September 23, 2013 12:26 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 12:26 PM (9Xc5j)
But you see, old President Numball is out saying he gotta clean up all these guns and stuff, and golfin is good way to blow off steam.
We are being led by the most narcissistic bunch of idiots evar!
Posted by: Rev Dr E Ed Shults, Esq at September 23, 2013 12:26 PM (raGXo)
Posted by: Mayday at September 23, 2013 12:27 PM (eHc+1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 12:27 PM (9Xc5j)
>>>Women are for babies, boys are for pleasure!
"If you turn the filthy woman over, she is a boy"
- Kooran
Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:27 PM (3ZtZW)
>>Perhaps sooner or later Mr. Obama will realize that we are fighting against people who won't quit until the entire modern human culture submits to their despicable demands.
Posted by: Marcus at September 23, 2013 04:25 PM (GGCsk)
We are, and he is one of them: liberals.
Posted by: Roy at September 23, 2013 12:27 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 12:27 PM (sOtz/)
CAIR has changed its name to the Washington Trust Fund.
WTF. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
http://tinyurl.com/n9tce3u
Drive by comment, have to get ready for work now.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 23, 2013 12:27 PM (yh0zB)
If I were king of the world , I would declare one month to temporarily relocate every non hostile Afghanistan to a designated part of the country, going through check points and contained in the smallest area possible for temporary habitation. After completion , the other part of the country would be a free fire zone until nothing moved. After, people would be relocated back. Easy Peezy.
Posted by: polynikes at September 23, 2013 12:28 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 12:28 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Lucy - The Doctor is In 5 Cents [/i] at September 23, 2013 12:28 PM (U2UQk)
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Got choked up reading this...thinking about my wife.
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Republican war on woman...spit.
Posted by: dananjcon at September 23, 2013 12:28 PM (wmU4G)
I wonder how much cognitive dissonance is required for leftard women to call Arab culture equal to western culture. They defend it you know. I've seen the little moronic droolers do it. That kind of stupid requires quite a disconnect from reality.
Posted by: maddogg at September 23, 2013 12:29 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: JEM at September 23, 2013 12:29 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 23, 2013 12:29 PM (0HooB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 12:29 PM (/PCJa)
That's a damned good idea, Ace. And I'd let ALL of them in ahead of any "amnesty seekers".
Fat chance it'll happen, as it would embarrass too many "vested interests" on the left to actually let in, you know, actual victims of an actual war on women....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 23, 2013 12:29 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 12:29 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 12:30 PM (9Xc5j)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 23, 2013 12:31 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 12:31 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2013 12:33 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:33 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2013 12:34 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 23, 2013 12:34 PM (YNK3y)
Ace's Amnesty for Afghan Wimmens is a good idea.
There are some smoking hot Afghan chicks out there. Got one in my office. Six feet tall, curvy, jet black hair halfway down to her ass, face like a Disney princess.
And look who you'd be competing with: Afghan men - the most sexually confused and suppressive creatures on the planet. I guarantee you, you drop down on one of these Afghan gals and give 'em some beak, you've got a love slave for life. And she'll be telling all her friends.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 23, 2013 12:34 PM (CJjw5)
Whoa, I did not know this existed. This blows my mind. My first-born son died not long before this so my brain was completely fried.
In name.
Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 12:34 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 23, 2013 12:35 PM (T0Pku)
Posted by: The Chicken at September 23, 2013 12:36 PM (0HooB)
I have no doubt the Afghans were running opium into the USSR (it's a tradition) but it wasn't the Taliban. The Tali's were a creation of Pakistan in the late 80's early 90's. The original Mujahideen fighting the Russians were a combination of local religious fanatics, imported religious fanatics, and (the largest group) local hillbillies who were happy to use jihad as an excuse to smoke a few Ivans.
The ISI set up the original Taliban schools for Afghan refugees and students and took the opportunity to create their own religious fanatic army. That is why you have to smite the shit out of Pakistan to beat the Taliban--you can smack them around in Afghanistan all you want but they always have support and a retreat across the border.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at September 23, 2013 12:36 PM (DlUMF)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 12:36 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: CarolT at September 23, 2013 12:37 PM (Eflez)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 23, 2013 12:38 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 04:30 PM (9Xc5j)
It's not as funny if I have to explain it.
Washington
Trust
Fund
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 23, 2013 12:38 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: rumningrn at September 23, 2013 12:38 PM (PLOz8)
Here's a thought...
How about installing a ruthless puppet king who could use our superior technology and killing power in ways that we could never do ourselves?
A king could change the direction of the country, make child/goat fucking a crime, help women out and basically do things in a way that Afghans would understand.
You know, like the way shit was handled for thousands of years before the New York Times started to tell people how to run countries.
Posted by: jwest at September 23, 2013 12:38 PM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 23, 2013 12:38 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 12:38 PM (DmNpO)
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Nice euphemism.
You just gotta hope that she hasn't been circumcised with a coke bottle previously.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 23, 2013 12:39 PM (YmPwQ)
What, did she want to put an end to bacha bazi?
And speaking of bacha bazi, apparently RINOs, Rovians, and bacha bazi enthusiasts of both parties, but mainly "Republican" gave some Fox guy oppo research when they announced Sen. Cruz was going on.
Cruz, it is intimated, wants to put an end to Socialized medicine, and then take on bacha bazi.
No wonder they're incensed.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lcznf9m
Posted by: High-grade Moron at September 23, 2013 12:39 PM (tfSla)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 12:40 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: rumningrn at September 23, 2013 12:40 PM (XsjeH)
Seems the Slimes had bigger problems with them being sexually harassed on the job than some piddly little concern like being murdered for being a woman with a job
But the Sex In the City women who read the Slimes don't worry about being murdered when their main concern is a manager who they overheard saying another coworker has a great ass
Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2013 12:42 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: rumningrn at September 23, 2013 12:42 PM (XsjeH)
New title, in a sane world.
Posted by: Beagle, Director of the FMPP at September 23, 2013 12:42 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: MoeRon at September 23, 2013 12:44 PM (9l2V1)
>>>How about installing aruthless puppet king
Traditional Afghan kings before the commie reign were like the french kings, first amongst equals. Reinstalling the king means also reinstalling the aristocracy. I'd support it anyhow, and the surviving lineage is here, in the USA, but they ain't gonna go for it and they wouldn't be ruthless.
Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:44 PM (3ZtZW)
I have a bad feeling that many of their chip-on-the-shoulder male children would take the Tsarnaev career path.
Posted by: Jaws at September 23, 2013 12:44 PM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: John al-McCain at September 23, 2013 12:44 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 23, 2013 12:46 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Caliban at September 23, 2013 12:47 PM (DrC22)
Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2013 04:34 PM (9XBK2)
____________________
And those are just my kids!
Posted by: Afghani Goat Fucker at September 23, 2013 12:47 PM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Achmed at September 23, 2013 12:48 PM (/9IC1)
I'm growing more and more tempted to, when I walk past a female in a hijab, mutter softly, "Slave," but that would be mean.
I refuse to call them women, because a real woman wouldn't put up with that shit.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 23, 2013 12:48 PM (0HooB)
Never let it be said that I don't care about those less fortunate than me.
Posted by: Hillary! at September 23, 2013 12:48 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Caliban at September 23, 2013 04:47 PM (DrC22)
Of course they're great, their anuses depend on it.
(too much?)
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at September 23, 2013 12:48 PM (p7BzH)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at September 23, 2013 12:49 PM (vd7A8)
Posted by: President Sarah Palin at September 23, 2013 12:49 PM (PzbX0)
Posted by: Afgan Goats at September 23, 2013 12:49 PM (mETGQ)
"Reinstalling the king means also reinstalling the aristocracy. "
That's the beauty of a monarchy. You have the power to grant lands and titles, so you can delegate.
Make deals with who you can and kill those you can't. Rule with an iron fist so that the people know who is in charge.
Peace and prosperity.
Posted by: jwest at September 23, 2013 12:49 PM (u2a4R)
I know an Air Force PJ named Reilly who once told me that, in his opinion, the entire country of Afghanistan has one big case of PTSD, based on the continuous warfare that has existed there since the late 1970s. He said that he personally saw women over there just get up and abandon their infants, just like that. I never had to advise Afghans (I had my hands full with the spoiled, rich assholes from the UAE I was advising), but the SF guys and SEALs I knew in Kandahar used to tell me similar kinds of stories.
Every day, I thank the Big Guy Upstairs that I was born in the United States....
Posted by: Pave Low John at September 23, 2013 12:49 PM (y89Wu)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2013 12:50 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 23, 2013 12:51 PM (LbdZK)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 23, 2013 12:51 PM (0HooB)
@153
I don't speak to them at all because I know their rules. It can be awkward because American women in my neighborhood who are clueless introduce me to these abayaed Muslimas and I just say "hi".
"Where is your husband or male relative?" I never add.
Posted by: Beagle, Director of the FMPP at September 23, 2013 12:51 PM (sOtz/)
I think we did have a girl who was at risk of honor killing applying for asylum? I know that happened in Canada, oh, back in 2004-5? Plus, I guess if a woman is being condemned to die by stoning she could apply for asylum? But 9yo girls gotta have written permission from their folks maybe.
Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:51 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2013 04:50 PM (oFCZn)
With her pension and other benefits in tact, no doubt.
Posted by: Retread at September 23, 2013 12:52 PM (G+w7R)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 23, 2013 12:53 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: toby928© at September 23, 2013 12:54 PM (QupBk)
No. They're negotiating with Karzai. The last few times they've gone up against the ANA, they've had their asses kicked. So we didn't lose.
Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 23, 2013 12:54 PM (TJw7K)
Posted by: Jason at September 23, 2013 12:54 PM (YT5Q5)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 23, 2013 12:55 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Retread at September 23, 2013 12:55 PM (G+w7R)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 12:55 PM (qyfb5)
Take their women. Well, not take them; just offer them a way out. Let the population plunge and in 40 years you've got no problems."
While asylum in the first world would be a humane policy, many here have pointed out various problems with that approach. I have a modest proposal that might have more chance for producing positive results.
Build a modern superhighway from Kabul to the Chinese border. If possible, build a railroad from Kabul to the Chinese border as well. Since the Chinese have been killing off their female babies for three decades now, there is a fairly significant imbalance in the sex ratios in China. Chinese women are higher status wives and Chinese women are tending to migrate in to the cities where life is easier and a bit more prosperous. Farmers in remote rural areas will probably be willing to pay for a wife even if she is a lower status Afghan who can't even speak Chinese. Even if an individual farmer can't afford to pay for a wife, his relatives can probably chip in and come up with the price.
Life as the wife of a Chinese farmer may be no picnic but by all descriptions it seems better than life as a woman in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at September 23, 2013 12:55 PM (31Nrp)
In some earlier period, before it occurred to a very few Afghans that an alliance with the Soviet Union was in any way a good idea, it seems women had more say, girls went to school, Herat was supposed to have been an irrigated Eden (among others), and they flew kites in Kabul.
The best we could do before the Taliban took Kabul was to try to buy back the stinger missiles we gave to the mujahedin. (Iran took 5 at a cool mill each.)
Between Jimmeh Carter and Slick Willie Clinton, they didn't really have much hope.
[Did Rove want disarray in Afgh. to make it easier for his bacha bazi buddies?]
Posted by: High-grade Moron Isotopes/thousands of centrifuges at September 23, 2013 12:55 PM (tfSla)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 23, 2013 12:57 PM (QF8uk)
I'll bet that if we did install a puppet king, he would be so grateful that he would set a portion of his kingdom aside as a place where the U.S. could send it's violent criminals instead of the expensive prisons they are housed in now.
Just like Australia was the new beginning for British prisoners, some shit hole piece of land in Afghanistan could be the promised land for our hardened criminals.
See, everything working together for a better tomorrow.
Posted by: jwest at September 23, 2013 12:59 PM (u2a4R)
Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at September 23, 2013 12:59 PM (p7BzH)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 23, 2013 01:01 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: MTF at September 23, 2013 01:03 PM (iLYus)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 23, 2013 01:05 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 23, 2013 01:19 PM (MhA4j)
@170
Great minds. I beat you though. Now would be the time to have a big brainy circle jerk and congratulate ourselves. Not like anything is going to happen on this front.
Great op-ed, btw, scholarly n' stuff.
It is heartening to see CAIR (WTF) getting slammed in the Daily Caller. Twelve years late, but still awesome.
Posted by: Beagle, Director of the FMPP at September 23, 2013 01:20 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 23, 2013 05:01 PM (MhA4j)"
Then they can buy them as concubines. Whatever. The fact is that they can't find Chinese wives. They might be able to buy a North Korean refugee but those are in rather limited supply. If they can make money at it, I am pretty sure that Chinese officials will be happy to overlook an industry that supplies Afghan women to serve as Sally Hemings to several million poor Chinese farmers.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at September 23, 2013 01:29 PM (31Nrp)
Posted by: Sammy at September 23, 2013 02:23 PM (HMI9a)
That NatGeo girl. Thought about her a lot. If she could have been brought to civilization before it was too late....
Posted by: Richard Aubrey at September 23, 2013 02:26 PM (oioKB)
The ME needs a safe haven for women.
And Christians. And Hindus. And gays. And Athiests. And capitalism. And democracy. And freedom loving liberals. And intellectuals.And dissidents. And free from the dogs of the religious police. And free of the oil-money wahhabi fucks. And free of all imans, ayatollahs, and other assholes preaching this shit. Free of mention of that piss-mohamad . Free of child rape and GM. And well. I could go on, but basically a haven from islam. Especially free from any constitutional reference to islam or sharia. If islam is not considered the quaint backwaters rock-bowing cult of the arabian goat-fuckers in the dust of the radioactive fallout, then we are not done.
If we provide free areas here, we will just shrink smaller in the sphere we consider free, in faith and real territory.
I'm sure if we succeed we will still have the other problems; tribalism, jeleousy, hate, greed, suffering... but we'll be rid of one of the main drivers.And one of our enemies.
When we can make this profitable is when it will happen. If we can make it self replicating, then maybe we'll survive and prosper as well. That is their method, if not model. Which is ascendent. ?
Posted by: meleager at September 23, 2013 05:26 PM (V0Tr2)
Would'a
could'a
should'a
My offer, post 9-11, was in the normal course of martial law,
1) anyone caught outside between one hour before sunset and one hour after sunrise will be shot on site.
2) anyone caught outside in a burka/concealment will be shot on site.
3) any man caught outside will be shot on site... maybe loosen that one up and give the men an hour +/- high noon.
But what do you expect when a liberal panty waste CiC is thinking "indoor plumbing will make then LOVE us"
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2013 05:37 PM (80R0X)
Indeed.
When I repeated that question to the New York radfems I knew, they bristled defensively and swore they were doing all they could (nothing, really). But they were much too worried about whether enough Western Feminists had won the Tony Award for Directing, etc., to pay any attention to problems moslem women face.
Posted by: Beverly at September 23, 2013 08:10 PM (iW9/C)
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