September 23, 2013

Taliban Assassinates Top Female Police Officer, Months After Killing Her Predecessor
— Ace

Great culture you've got there, Savage Animals.

Lieutenant Nigara was a well-respected officer whose work went far beyond the female body searches that fill the days of many policewomen. But today, Nigara, the top policewoman in Helmand province, died from her wounds after being shot twice on her way to work, just three months after her predecessor was assassinated in the same way by attackers who have never been identified.

The death was the latest in a campaign of assassinations, intimidation, assaults and kidnappings of prominent women around Afghanistan that has raised fears that the modest gains made by women in the last decade will be wiped out as western troops head home.

The New York Times interviewed her recently. She said she loved her job and wasn't afraid of the Taliban's bloody, actual War on Women.

In an interview this month, Lieutenant Nigara said she was undeterred by the deaths of her two colleagues. She told of living with constant death threats and in near poverty after her brother, also a police officer, was shot and paralyzed. She had been caring for him and his four children, in addition to doing her job.

“I’m living in a ramshackle house, and whenever I come back there from duty, I smile to my husband that I am alive,” she said.

She added: “I love this job, and I see my countrymen in trouble and the country in a critical situation, and I feel women’s role is important in policing.”

Lieutenant Nigara originally joined the force during the Communist era in the early 1990s, and she returned after the fall of the Taliban.

She recounted how in 2006 she stopped a would-be suicide bomber, who was wearing an explosive vest, by throwing her arms around him in a bearhug. She apprehended insurgents and drug smugglers several times, even though they were disguised in burqas. And she said she once climbed onto a rooftop to capture an insurgent sniper.

“I am receiving threats on a daily basis,” she said. “The smugglers and terrorists are threatening me, saying I should give up, but I tell them that I am an Afghan woman, and I won’t leave the job as long as there is blood in my veins.”

I have a feeling that she was among the anonymous interview subjects of this NYT piece, in which Afghanistan policewoman noted that sexual harassment and even rape were part of the job.

The report, which the United Nations has circulated only among senior Afghan officials at the Interior Ministry, found that about 90 percent of the policewomen interviewed described sexual harassment and sexual violence as a serious problem, and that about 70 percent of the policewomen said that they had personally experienced sexual harassment or sexual violence themselves, according to people who saw the report or had it described to them.

While a much smaller fraction reported either being raped or otherwise sexually assaulted, the overall picture was of a police force in which women were constantly at risk.

...

WomenÂ’s rights advocates said that because Afghan policewomen were afraid of being penalized for revealing the problem, it was extremely difficult to get them to talk about abuse. That is all the more true if the person committing the sexual abuse is their commander or one of his close friends on the police force.

The policewomen interviewed by The Times said they feared being fired or demoted, or being sent to work in a job that was far away from their home if they complained.

Most policewomen are low-level security screeners at checkpoints or government buildings, and in many instances they are the only person earning money in the family and desperately need their salaries — usually around $240 per month.

A further disincentive to talking publicly about sexual abuse or coercion is that many Afghans already believe female police officers have loose morals simply because they are willing to work in public with men who are not relatives. If a woman admits that she is under pressure to have sex, conservative relatives might force her to quit — or even kill her to expiate the perceived dishonor to the family.

As for Nigara's predecessor as the country's top policewoman: In April, Lt. Islam Bibi reported that her own brother had attempted to murder her three times.

On the fourth of July, she was murdered.

Many human rights campaigners say Lt BibiÂ’s murder is just one example illustrating how a reversal is already under way.

Last month, in a decision that attracted little public attention, a court freed the in-laws of a young woman who had been tortured for refusing to be married off at the age of 13 or 14. And there is a growing backlash against a presidential decree designed to protect women.

You know what would be an interesting experiment?

A widespread, First-World-Wide asylum for Afghan women.

Take their women. Well, not take them; just offer them a way out. Let the population plunge and in 40 years you've got no problems.


Posted by: Ace at 12:07 PM | Comments (191)
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1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 12:08 PM (/PCJa)

2 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 12:09 PM (/PCJa)

3 War on Wymyn. Syria You Guys.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 12:09 PM (/PCJa)

4 But we love women...



...ignorant, covered head to toe and remaining inside.

Posted by: Islamodogfish at September 23, 2013 12:10 PM (nsOJa)

5 Tea Party did it! 

Posted by: Mr. Reid at September 23, 2013 12:10 PM (Tlix5)

6 Unfortunately too many of the abused think their lot is normal.  They will not leave even if they could. 

Posted by: rd at September 23, 2013 12:11 PM (D+lxs)

7 Funny, the only mention of Islam is in a woman's name.

Posted by: Lucy - The Doctor is In 5 Cents [/i] at September 23, 2013 12:11 PM (U2UQk)

8

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 04:09 PM (/PCJa)

Strange how well that works isn't it?

--

I wonder thought how many would come ace, between the Stockholm syndrome and those who think they can overcome savagery.

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at September 23, 2013 12:11 PM (Sj72w)

9

"Many human rights campaigners say Lt BibiÂ’s murder is just one example illustrating how a reversal is already under way."

 

That's perfectly fine to the Left so long as the sin of Western intervention (Imperialism/Colonialism) is expiated.  And if it needs the blood of the innoccent to wash away that sin, then so be it.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet Happy Hour! Cocktails of Betrayal 50% Off! at September 23, 2013 12:11 PM (hLRSq)

10 Coming to a country near you (very near) in the not too distant future.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 23, 2013 12:12 PM (0Jb7F)

11 We'll trade you some of your Afghan wimmens for Janeane Garofalo.

Posted by: Definition of fair trade at September 23, 2013 12:12 PM (nsOJa)

12

About ten years ago I realized we need a Former Muslim Protection Program.  Everything is a death sentence in Islam practically, but especially offending 'honor,' blasphemy, shirk, fitna, and apostasy.    And women are executed for being raped sometimes.    

 

Afghan women would never leave though.  Too scared, brainwashed, and not believing anyone could stand up to the power of the Mullahs and Allah.  Some of them would leave, but only to recruit jihadis or splodey themselves.   

Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 12:12 PM (sOtz/)

13

You'd think the Afghan women would take us up on that offer but they'd have to ask the menfolk for permission to leave, then walk behind 2 male relatives and we're not about to let the guys in or anything....

Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:13 PM (3ZtZW)

14

Sorry Ace... but just like the Mom of the Boston Bombers... there are Islamic women who should not be given access to the US...

 

Some of them are just plain whacked by Western Standards....

 

Its like the Battered Wife syndrome.... abused but they seem to love it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 23, 2013 12:13 PM (lZBBB)

15

Taliban are the honorable representatives of Islam.  Ladies and gentlemen:  THIS is your Muslim Religion of Peace. I think the US needs another "urinate on Muhammed" day.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at September 23, 2013 12:13 PM (EGPJQ)

16 I like your asylum solution, ace.

Posted by: Heralder at September 23, 2013 12:13 PM (+xmn4)

17

Where is NOW?

 

Where are the Women's Study Professors. 

Posted by: rd at September 23, 2013 12:14 PM (D+lxs)

18 Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 04:13 PM (3ZtZW) Sure we'll let 'em in. Back out is a completely different proposition.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 12:14 PM (/PCJa)

19 But, but, but...Rush Limbaugh called a slut a slut!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at September 23, 2013 12:14 PM (7ObY1)

20 Stomp it out Douse the ashes Hang the arsonists

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 23, 2013 12:14 PM (ZshNr)

21 Take their women? Ummm, they aren't very pretty Can we take big booty Columbian chicks instead?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 12:14 PM (j8JLb)

22 What a brave woman.  She went out doing the job she loved.

Posted by: EC at September 23, 2013 12:14 PM (GQ8sn)

23 Ace,Roger Simon has a good piece over at PJM apropro to this.

Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2013 12:15 PM (9XBK2)

24 Remember before the retaliation to 9/11, some Afghan guy wrote a plea to not bomb his country because it was already fucked, and it became this huge cri de coeur for the anti-war forces?

He was so eloquent and sad. Funny that he didn't say a word about the subhuman aspects of his culture.

And offering asylum to Afghan women wouldn't work. They tracked down the former girl with the greenish-yellow eyes who was on the cover of the National Geographic, and now she's a middle-aged sourpuss with fifty children. She hates everyone and everything and just wants to be left alone, living under her husband's thumb. The brainwashing was a success, doctor!

Tribalism trumps all. That's what 2001-2013 taught me. Our reaction from now on should be just to destroy, not try to build.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 23, 2013 12:15 PM (TJw7K)

25 Love the idea of the asylum. But the people babbling about the phony war on women would never let us do it. (Legally. This is one group of illegal migrants I could support.)

Posted by: John W. at September 23, 2013 12:15 PM (icMTF)

26 You know what would be an interesting experiment? A widespread, First-World-Wide asylum for Afghan women. This is actually a really good idea. Is this original to you, Ace?

Posted by: toby928© at September 23, 2013 12:15 PM (QupBk)

27

I actually have no problem with this. And hey, serious you guys, they can have all the free abortions and birth control they want because the Middle Class! Winning!

 

/freedom

Posted by: sans_sheriff at September 23, 2013 12:15 PM (Lljg2)

28

Waiting for US based Muzzie spokesmen to condemn killing... * yawn *  I think I'll be waiting a long time.  

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at September 23, 2013 12:16 PM (EGPJQ)

29 I really wish we would have just dropped some nukes immediately following 9/11 instead of spending the last 12 years fighting there.

Posted by: Ben at September 23, 2013 12:16 PM (FvrXS)

30 We fought this war wrong. We should have done it in a way that left no doubts that attacking us...ever...is a bad idea.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 23, 2013 12:16 PM (659DL)

31 Given that if an R president made that offer the next D to be elected would renig on the promise and send all the women back to their butcher male families women in these situations would be wise to refuse.  

Posted by: palerider at September 23, 2013 12:16 PM (dkExz)

32 I would like to reiterate my objection to comparing these subhuman wastes of DNA to animals. Animals has a reason for their slaughter.

Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 23, 2013 12:16 PM (VtjlW)

33 Oh and I'll take 3.

Posted by: Ben at September 23, 2013 12:16 PM (FvrXS)

34 Here it is. http://tinyurl.com/ldlmfry

Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2013 12:16 PM (9XBK2)

35 I mean, sure, you've gotta wear a potato sack the guys beat you up and rape you at whim, then you can get killed for being raped, and then they'll kill you if you get a job or go to school, plus you get married off at 9yo to some 86 year old perv, but at least its better than living in the Great Satan, that Jew-loving Hellhole.

Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:17 PM (3ZtZW)

36 But was it "murder" murder?  Asking for a Whoopi.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 23, 2013 12:17 PM (sQ0LB)

37 We are thoroughly disturbed insulted by the above comparison to the Taliban or any other muzzy extremist organization, and demand a retraction and apology.



Posted by: Savage Animal League at September 23, 2013 12:17 PM (Pr6hk)

38 Where is NOW?

Congratulating themselves on not being racist like we are.  How dare we condemn this non-Western culture, etc.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, BFD, ZOMG, WTF, BBQ, QED at September 23, 2013 12:17 PM (/kI1Q)

39

Take their women. Well, not take them; just offer them a way out. Let the population plunge and in 40 years you've got no problems.

Ace, how about a trade of women like her for Hillary, Boxer, Pelosi, etc. No way in the world we would come out worse off.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at September 23, 2013 12:17 PM (X+nFp)

40 OT, but Ted Cruz is brilliant. Presently making the case on the senate floor as to how easily the Dems could have prevented a government shutdown. He's making them own it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (DmNpO)

41 Wait!!! I got it, we can trade them New Jersey for their women It's a win/win

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (j8JLb)

42 And Barky wants to aid these fuckers?

Heck of a job, Barky.  Heck of a job.

Posted by: acethepug at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (RpQpx)

43 Can these women make sammiches?  If so, I'm all for Ace's proposed asylum.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (B/VB5)

44

I would like to reiterate my objection to comparing these subhuman wastes of DNA to animals. Animals has a reason for their slaughter.

 

"Animals don't wage war, we should be more like animals all the time!"

Posted by: PETA and other Ilk at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (Sj72w)

45

>>>Ummm, they aren't very pretty

 

Thats why they like dancing boys, silly. Glee is like the top show in AfPak.

Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (3ZtZW)

46 After thinking a little bit about this, I doubt it would make any difference.  What would eventually happen is that Afghani men would just kidnap women from neighbouring countries or put the word out to slave traders that a brand new country was open for their business.

Posted by: EC at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (GQ8sn)

47 If the smelly fuckers on the train everyday are any indication, the Muz have to keep their women oppressed, or they'd never procreate. 

Who the fuck thinks that musk is anything but disgusting?

Posted by: grognard at September 23, 2013 12:18 PM (/29Nl)

48 He's making them own it. Given the MFM (delenda est), I doubt that. But I have no doubts that he's eloquent. He *was* a successful trial lawyer, after all.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (/PCJa)

49
I'm all for Afgan women and girl refugees coming here.  New names, new lives, none of their male relatives.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (sj9LN)

50

 big booty Columbian chicks

 

That's big boo-TAY

Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (3ZtZW)

51 This post reminds me of the brave officers who are killed by the drug lords in Mexico. At least the drug lords don't pretend it is God who called upon them to do it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (DmNpO)

52 In April, Lt. Islam Bibi reported that her own brother had attempted to murder her three times.

Hey, you try hitting the right one in three tries when they're all wearing burqas.

Posted by: Mahmound al-Bibi at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (8ZskC)

53 How much for the little girl?

Posted by: toby928© at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (QupBk)

54
Patriarchy.....

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (TIIx5)

55 Oh, and by the way, the leader of the Nairobi mall attack has been identified as the "white widow," the wife of London suicide bomber Jermaine Lindsay.

Samantha Lewthwaite  trained female suicide bombers in Somalia and was seen barking orders in Arabic during the attack. They cut off the hands and burned off the faces of the victims in the mall.

The good news is the Kenyans have reported that they've killed her.

Muslim women are often no better than Muslim men.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (TJw7K)

56 big booty Columbian chicks


Somebody watch the Emmy's last night.

Posted by: EC at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (GQ8sn)

57

You know what would be an interesting experiment?

A widespread, First-World-Wide asylum for Afghan women.




Translation: Ace hasn't been laid in ages and those standards are a slidin'.

Posted by: mugiwara at September 23, 2013 12:19 PM (W7ffl)

58

All the answers you need for an analysis of women's issues in Afghanistan and be found in an autopsy.

 

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at September 23, 2013 12:20 PM (EGPJQ)

59

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 04:18 PM (DmNpO)

 

Yeah but expect the media to cut the tape to "I...really...want...to...shut...down...Obama....eleventy"

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at September 23, 2013 12:20 PM (Sj72w)

60 He's making them own it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 04:18 PM (DmNpO)



How dare he make it so the base expects us to TRY...  We'll get tossed off the dinner circuit for sure.

Posted by: Typical RINO at September 23, 2013 12:20 PM (Pr6hk)

61
Who the fuck thinks that musk is anything but disgusting?




Shit.  The goats.  Sorry, answered my own question.

Posted by: grognard at September 23, 2013 12:20 PM (/29Nl)

62 If the smelly fuckers on the train everyday are any indication, the Muz have to keep their women oppressed, or they'd never procreate. Who the fuck thinks that musk is anything but disgusting? Posted by: grognard at September 23, 2013 04:18 PM (/29Nl) The French?

Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 23, 2013 12:20 PM (VtjlW)

63 Animals has a reason for their slaughter. Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 23, 2013 04:16 PM (VtjlW) And also no need for grammar. (taunts happy fun Alex)

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 12:21 PM (qyfb5)

64

I'm still for it, but the way we run immigration and national security it will be a disaster.  There is no jihad threat doctrine any more.  Obama ditched all the materials in 2011.   Let that sink in for a minute. 

 

 

Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 12:21 PM (sOtz/)

65 Ace, great idea for all women to get out of there. The Taliban will have to turn gay. Then they should kill themselves because they don't put up with that. It will be solved faster with no women if they have no choice.

Posted by: CarolT at September 23, 2013 12:21 PM (XN0LR)

66

The problem is that our Administrations policies... for a few administrations... have been flawed.

 

Words DO matter... because wrong words lead to bad thinking...

 

The Cold War was never Democracy, against Communism.... it was a REPUBLIC against Socialism. 

We never should have tried to spread Democracy.... we should have enforced the idea of a Republic with a US Bill of Rights.... because once Sharia law is mentioned in their Founding documents (Constitution) we screwed up.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 23, 2013 12:21 PM (lZBBB)

67 Of course, this is JUST LIKE what Rush Limbaugh did to Sandra Fluke. Or something.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (659DL)

68

>>>Let the population plunge and in 40 years you've got no problems.<<<

 

That is, if you don't consider herds of Arabic-speaking   man-goats to be a "problem".

Posted by: Roy at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (VndSC)

69 Women are for babies, boys are for pleasure!

Posted by: Afghani Goat Fucker at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (32Ze2)

70 Yes, killing women, just because, well, they're women.

Assassinating men, women and children in Kenya, well, because they are not Muslim.

Killing about 3,000 innocent people, well, because you have a grievance and don't like their culture. Or religion.

These people are cowards. Nothing else. They attack the weak and defenseless. Just because.

And I've noticed all the Muslim organization on our evening news programs resoundingly and without qualification condemning this pattern of behavior. 

Posted by: Marcus at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (GGCsk)

71 We must learn that we cannot expect people who stopped growing philosophically in the 7th Century to suddenly become members of the local PTA. Better to bomb the place into oblivion with a notice that if they act up again, it will get bombed again, while giving aid and comfort to those who want to subscribe to our ideas about human dignity and liberty.

Posted by: RS at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (YAGV/)

72 muslims can't live with them, can't live with them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (9Xc5j)

73

@55

Or not.  It was certain this morning.  JW has an update.  Name. 

Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (sOtz/)

74

Considering the amount of equipment we have over there, let's just start a program of arming all the women.

 

Let them work it out for themselves once the playing field is leveled.

Posted by: jwest at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (u2a4R)

75
The French?

Posted by: alexthechick - Booze. Not just for breakfast. at September 23, 2013 04:20 PM (VtjlW)



Yeah, we have some of those too.  Also pretty damn ripe.

Seriously, do these men not understand that their stench contains pheromones that make other men want to fucking kill them with fire when they smell that?

Posted by: grognard at September 23, 2013 12:22 PM (/29Nl)

76 The Taliban will have to turn gay. Way, WAAAAAAY too late.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 23, 2013 12:23 PM (659DL)

77 I remember when the USSR invaded Afghanistan and some said it was the prelude to WWIII. Apparently the justification for the invasion was the Taliban was smuggling heroin into the USSR. After a while they got tired of getting killed and some USA dude was helping the Taliban, so they quit. So we invaded, post 9/11 and it became a political issue, as always, for the left to hammer the right. So we're gonna split. Hopefully, providing lots of manure for the Taliban to grow a healthy crop of heroin producing poppies to smuggle across the border to Russia. GOTO 10

Posted by: Lucy - The Doctor is In 5 Cents [/i] at September 23, 2013 12:23 PM (U2UQk)

78 Local crime story. Move along.

Posted by: thunderb at September 23, 2013 12:23 PM (TMl/O)

79 Hey someone should tell pelosi there is a yob opening

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 12:23 PM (9Xc5j)

80 -
11 We'll trade you some of your Afghan wimmens for Janeane Garofalo. Posted by: Definition of fair trade at September 23, 2013 04:12 PM
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Garofalo?  Echh.  How about some goats instead?


Posted by: Afghani Men at September 23, 2013 12:23 PM (8GKDa)

81

>>>How much for the little girl?

 

Actually, thats a serious question in that part of the world.

Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:24 PM (3ZtZW)

82 The problem with Scotland is that its full of Scots!

Posted by: Long Shanks at September 23, 2013 12:24 PM (xWW96)

83

>>Seriously, do these men not understand that their stench contains pheromones that make other men want to fucking kill them with fire when they smell that?<<

 

 

Maybe that is how to stop the Taliban violence -  just  soap and water.

Posted by: Roy at September 23, 2013 12:24 PM (VndSC)

84 OT, but booze is involved so shut up. My grape vine has gone crazy this year, completely overtaking an apple tree and now bearing lots of grapes. Muscadine. Has anyone ever made homemade wine/moonshine out of grapes? They're dark purple or black, with one or two seeds each. I'd rather one quart of moonshine than ten bottles of wine, but not sure if it's practical.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 23, 2013 12:24 PM (ZshNr)

85

Where is Hadji  the Muslim Comic?

 

He should be here.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 23, 2013 12:24 PM (0HooB)

86 You know, it's almost like some cultures are objectively more destructive than others. Naw, they totes said in college that wasn't true.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 12:24 PM (qyfb5)

87 Perhaps sooner or later Mr. Obama will realize that we are fighting against people who won't quit until the entire modern human culture submits to their despicable demands.

Posted by: Marcus at September 23, 2013 12:25 PM (GGCsk)

88 I like the idea of detonating large thermonuclear devices all over the Middle East.  I think we should start with Iran, though. 

Posted by: Null at September 23, 2013 12:25 PM (P7hip)

89 29 Ben, you're right we should have used nukes on that Fourth world country.

Posted by: CarolT at September 23, 2013 12:25 PM (XN0LR)

90 You know, it's almost like some cultures are objectively more destructive than others. Naw, they totes said in college that wasn't true. Unless it's ours.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 23, 2013 12:25 PM (659DL)

91 Perhaps sooner or later Mr. Obama will realize that we are fighting against people who won't quit until the entire modern human culture submits to their despicable demands. He's already at war with the Tea Party.

Posted by: toby928© at September 23, 2013 12:26 PM (QupBk)

92 Perhaps sooner or later Mr. Obama will realize that we are fighting against people who won't quit until the entire modern human culture submits to their despicable demands. Posted by: Marcus at September 23, 2013 04:25 PM (GGCsk) Yeah like he'd care

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 12:26 PM (9Xc5j)

93

But you see, old President Numball is out saying he gotta clean up all these guns and stuff, and golfin is good way to blow off steam.

We are being led by the most narcissistic bunch of idiots evar!


Posted by: Rev Dr E Ed Shults, Esq at September 23, 2013 12:26 PM (raGXo)

94 How about offering the Afghan women a free trip to China?  Solve two problems at once.

Posted by: Mayday at September 23, 2013 12:27 PM (eHc+1)

95 I like the idea of detonating large thermonuclear devices all over the Middle East. I think we should start with Iran, though. Posted by: Null at September 23, 2013 04:25 PM (P7hip) Take it somewhere else

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 12:27 PM (9Xc5j)

96

>>>Women are for babies, boys are for pleasure!

 

"If you turn the filthy woman over, she is a boy"

- Kooran

Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:27 PM (3ZtZW)

97

>>Perhaps sooner or later Mr. Obama will realize that we are fighting against people who won't quit until the entire modern human culture submits to their despicable demands.
Posted by: Marcus at September 23, 2013 04:25 PM (GGCsk)

 

 

We are, and he is one of them:     liberals.

Posted by: Roy at September 23, 2013 12:27 PM (VndSC)

98 Plan A1:  Get the little girls out of Afghanistan.  That might work.   At least the brainwashing will not be complete in many cases.  

Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 12:27 PM (sOtz/)

99 OT, but not too far OT...



CAIR has changed its name to the Washington Trust Fund.



WTF. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!



http://tinyurl.com/n9tce3u



Drive by comment, have to get ready for work now.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 23, 2013 12:27 PM (yh0zB)

100

If I were king of the world  ,  I would declare one month to temporarily relocate  every  non hostile  Afghanistan to a designated part of the country,  going through check  points  and contained in the smallest area possible for temporary habitation.    After completion ,  the other part of the country would be a free fire zone  until nothing moved.     After,  people would be relocated back.    Easy Peezy.  

Posted by: polynikes at September 23, 2013 12:28 PM (m2CN7)

101 Cruz is friggin good! A thing of beauty.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 12:28 PM (DmNpO)

102 I thought Charlie Wilson (D) singlehandedly won the war in Afghanistan?

Posted by: Lucy - The Doctor is In 5 Cents [/i] at September 23, 2013 12:28 PM (U2UQk)

103 “I’m living in a ramshackle house, and whenever I come back there from duty, I smile to my husband that I am alive,” she said.

**


Got choked up reading this...thinking about my wife.

**


Republican war on woman...spit.




Posted by: dananjcon at September 23, 2013 12:28 PM (wmU4G)

104 But I meant well!!!

Posted by: King Barky at September 23, 2013 12:28 PM (ZWaLo)

105

I wonder how much cognitive dissonance is required for leftard women to call Arab culture equal to western culture. They defend it you know. I've seen the little moronic droolers do it. That kind of stupid requires quite a disconnect from reality.

Posted by: maddogg at September 23, 2013 12:29 PM (xWW96)

106 @57 - look, there are eminently, uh, entertainable women in every culture around the world. Take away enough and the Afghan birth trend will look like, uh, well...Japan or Germany. Maybe we got something wrong in the late '40s, there.

Posted by: JEM at September 23, 2013 12:29 PM (o+SC1)

107 Savagery   committed by a bunch of   savage  animals?  Sorry, my give-a-shitometer just doesn't move.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 23, 2013 12:29 PM (0HooB)

108 Alright... I'm out. Gotta take care of the aftermath of the school assembly. Catch you morons tomorrow.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at September 23, 2013 12:29 PM (/PCJa)

109 A widespread, First-World-Wide asylum for Afghan women.

That's a damned good idea, Ace.  And I'd let ALL of them in ahead of any "amnesty seekers".

Fat chance it'll happen, as it would embarrass too many "vested interests" on the left to actually let in, you know, actual victims of an actual war on women....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 23, 2013 12:29 PM (wtvvX)

110 I think a small nuke dropped at Tora Bora at the exact right time could have saved a lot of lives in the subsequent years.  The strong horse would have been crystal clear.   But we did bomb the hell out of that place and miss him.  So it's 20/20 hindsight and guesstimation.  

Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 12:29 PM (sOtz/)

111 OT, but not too far OT... CAIR has changed its name to the Washington Trust Fund. WTF. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! http://tinyurl.com/n9tce3u Drive by comment, have to get ready for work now. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 23, 2013 04:27 PM (yh0zB) I don't think they changed their PR arm from CAIR. What they did was change their fund raising arm, or reorganized it to that other name to hide and wash all the foreign money they are getting.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 12:30 PM (9Xc5j)

112 How about a 1:1 trade of Code Pink members for Afghani police women?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 23, 2013 12:31 PM (sQ0LB)

113 Got choked up reading this...thinking about my wife. *** Amen. Such bravery.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 12:31 PM (DmNpO)

114 The Taliban ARE gay ?

Posted by: CarolT at September 23, 2013 12:32 PM (iANqq)

115 And we LOST to these asshats?

Posted by: Iblis at September 23, 2013 12:32 PM (9221z)

116 We need a Constitutional Amendment to remove islam from the category of a religion.

Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2013 12:33 PM (9XBK2)

117 115 well, we gave up trying to fight these asshats

Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:33 PM (3ZtZW)

118 Savages.

Posted by: Chique d'afrique at September 23, 2013 12:33 PM (vv73a)

119
Way OT - insty has a cool video of a chicken plucker.

Plucker.  I said plucker.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 23, 2013 12:34 PM (sj9LN)

120 I read that some 25000 Afghanis have moved to the US since the war started.

Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2013 12:34 PM (9XBK2)

121 Well, Obama gave it the old college try.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 23, 2013 12:34 PM (YNK3y)

122

Ace's  Amnesty  for Afghan Wimmens is a good idea.

 

There are some smoking   hot Afghan chicks out there.  Got one in my office.  Six feet tall,  curvy,  jet  black hair halfway down to her ass, face like a Disney princess.

 

And look  who you'd be competing  with:   Afghan men - the most sexually  confused and  suppressive  creatures on the planet.  I guarantee you,  you drop down on one  of these Afghan gals and give 'em some beak,  you've  got a love slave for life.  And she'll be telling all her friends.

 

 

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 23, 2013 12:34 PM (CJjw5)

123

Whoa, I did not know this existed.  This blows my mind.   My first-born  son died not long before this so my brain was completely fried.  

 

In name.  

Posted by: Beagle at September 23, 2013 12:34 PM (sOtz/)

124 I hate these fuckers! How about a zero tolerance policy for muslims? And for every Lt. Nigara there is some privilege white girl who converts and becomes a radical murderer muslim. Why? Because they crave attention and are nothing but hate.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at September 23, 2013 12:35 PM (T0Pku)

125

Plucker. I said plucker.

 

Great. Just great.

Posted by: The Chicken at September 23, 2013 12:36 PM (0HooB)

126 >>>Apparently the justification for the invasion was the Taliban was smuggling heroin into the USSR. After a while they got tired of getting killed and some USA dude was helping the Taliban, so they quit.<<<

I have no doubt the Afghans were running opium into the USSR (it's a tradition) but it wasn't the Taliban. The Tali's were a creation of Pakistan in the late 80's early 90's. The original Mujahideen fighting the Russians were a combination of local religious fanatics, imported religious fanatics, and (the largest group) local hillbillies who were happy to use jihad as an excuse to smoke a few Ivans.

The ISI set up the original Taliban schools for Afghan refugees and students and took the opportunity to create their own religious fanatic army. That is why you have to smite the shit out of Pakistan to beat the Taliban--you can smack them around in Afghanistan all you want but they always have support and a retreat across the border.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at September 23, 2013 12:36 PM (DlUMF)

127 I propose a swap: the entire female Kabul police force for Code Pink.

Win-win!

Posted by: pookysgirl at September 23, 2013 12:36 PM (kMnHs)

128 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 23, 2013 04:34 PM (CJjw5) Yes, I do indeed endorse this plan, whole-heartedly!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 12:36 PM (qyfb5)

129 Call me a racist or whatever, Muslims are responsible for more deaths than any other religion! We should ban it in the US. They hate us now, let's add more reason for their hate.

Posted by: CarolT at September 23, 2013 12:37 PM (Eflez)

130 A widespread, First-World-Wide asylum for Afghan women. Take their women. Well, not take them; just offer them a way out. Let the population plunge and in 40 years you've got no problems. Yes, refugee status. Raise the limits per country, change the requirements, and create a campaign that can safely get them out. The problem is getting them out, safely. The purple inked women who voted in Iraq made me cry - still does thinking about it. (damn that Bush!) Imagine a sea of women creating their own mass mecca out of that hell. I would cry for days.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 23, 2013 12:38 PM (IXrOn)

131 I don't think they changed their PR arm from CAIR. What they did was change their fund raising arm, or reorganized it to that other name to hide and wash all the foreign money they are getting.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2013 04:30 PM (9Xc5j)



It's not as funny if I have to explain it.



Washington


Trust


Fund

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 23, 2013 12:38 PM (yh0zB)

132 But Mitt Romney has binders full of womyn!!!

Posted by: rumningrn at September 23, 2013 12:38 PM (PLOz8)

133

Here's a thought...

 

How about installing a ruthless puppet king who could use our superior technology and killing power in ways that we could never do ourselves?

 

A king could change the direction of the country, make child/goat fucking a crime, help women out and basically do things in a way that Afghans would understand.

 

You know, like the way shit was handled for thousands of years before the New York Times started to tell people how to run countries.

Posted by: jwest at September 23, 2013 12:38 PM (u2a4R)

134 Really hoping one of you is hunting for Grandpa's old grape moonshine recipe. These bunches aren't going to pick themselves and I'm not going to pick them unless I'm assured of eventually getting drunk for my efforts.

Posted by: Lincolntf at September 23, 2013 12:38 PM (ZshNr)

135 You know what would be an interesting experiment? A widespread, First-World-Wide asylum for Afghan women. Take their women. Well, not take them; just offer them a way out. Let the population plunge and in 40 years you've got no problems. *** But do they suffer from battered-woman syndrome? Is the abuse and the message that accompanies it so deeply ingrained that they will allow it to take root here as well?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 12:38 PM (DmNpO)

136 "And we LOST to these asshats?"

No, we lost to ourselves.

Posted by: Jaws at September 23, 2013 12:39 PM (4I3Uo)

137 I guarantee you, you drop down on one of these Afghan gals and give 'em some beak, you've got a love slave for life. And she'll be telling all her friends.

----

Nice euphemism.

You just gotta hope that she hasn't been circumcised with a coke bottle previously.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 23, 2013 12:39 PM (YmPwQ)

138 Killed her, huh?
What, did she want to put an end to bacha bazi?
And speaking of bacha bazi, apparently RINOs, Rovians, and bacha bazi enthusiasts of both parties, but mainly "Republican" gave some Fox guy oppo research when they announced Sen. Cruz was going on.
Cruz, it is intimated, wants to put an end to Socialized medicine, and then take on bacha bazi.
No wonder they're incensed.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lcznf9m

Posted by: High-grade Moron at September 23, 2013 12:39 PM (tfSla)

139 Call me a racist or whatever, Muslims are responsible for more deaths than any other religion! We should ban it in the US. They hate us now, let's add more reason for their hate. ** I would argue that Environmentalism is a religion as well. Untold numbers have been killed by their restrictions on pesticides.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 23, 2013 12:40 PM (DmNpO)

140 But Mitt Romney gave Mrs. Soptik cancer!!!

Posted by: rumningrn at September 23, 2013 12:40 PM (XsjeH)

141 Washington
Trust
Fund

??


Who talks french?




 

Posted by: dananjcon at September 23, 2013 12:41 PM (wmU4G)

142 Isn't this the same NY Times who cheers on Obama because he's negotiating with the Taliban because you know... "dialog" cures everything?

Seems the Slimes had bigger problems with them being sexually harassed on the job than some piddly little concern like being murdered for being a woman with a job

But the Sex In the City women who read the Slimes don't worry about being murdered when their main concern is a manager who they overheard saying another coworker has a great ass



Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2013 12:42 PM (/9IC1)

143 But Mitt Romney wants to force womyn to buy black market, back alley tampons!

Posted by: rumningrn at September 23, 2013 12:42 PM (XsjeH)

144

New title, in a sane world.  

Posted by: Beagle, Director of the FMPP at September 23, 2013 12:42 PM (sOtz/)

145 What we need to do to these pukes that fuck goats and little boys and kill women who can read is to invest billions and billions of dollars into their country, tell them all that the Mooslim Way is the Pieceful Way, have tens of thousands of our brave women and men die for their Mooslim Pieceful cause....and before you know it....we'll hatch a whole bunch of little Ben Franklins, George Washingtons, you know, we'll make their country ripe for Democracy!!!!!!!!

Posted by: MoeRon at September 23, 2013 12:44 PM (9l2V1)

146

>>>How about installing aruthless puppet king

 

Traditional Afghan kings before the commie reign were like the french kings, first amongst equals. Reinstalling the king means also reinstalling the aristocracy. I'd support it anyhow, and the surviving lineage is here, in the USA, but they ain't gonna go for it and they wouldn't be ruthless.

Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:44 PM (3ZtZW)

147 "But do they suffer from battered-woman syndrome? Is the abuse and the message that accompanies it so deeply ingrained that they will allow it to take root here as well?"

I have a bad feeling that many of their chip-on-the-shoulder male children would  take the Tsarnaev career path.

Posted by: Jaws at September 23, 2013 12:44 PM (4I3Uo)

148 Stop with the drama, these are moderates!

Posted by: John al-McCain at September 23, 2013 12:44 PM (/9IC1)

149 Well, we could take their women. And then they'd give birth to sons here. Who would grow up to be savage muzzies.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 23, 2013 12:46 PM (ZPrif)

150 No worries. Their soccer team is great. Just ask NPR!

Posted by: Caliban at September 23, 2013 12:47 PM (DrC22)

151 I read that some 25000 Afghanis have moved to the US since the war started.

Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2013 04:34 PM (9XBK2)

____________________

And those are just my kids!

Posted by: Afghani Goat Fucker at September 23, 2013 12:47 PM (32Ze2)

152 Bitch wouldn't make me a halal sammich!

Posted by: Achmed at September 23, 2013 12:48 PM (/9IC1)

153

I'm growing more and more tempted to,  when I walk  past a  female  in a hijab, mutter softly, "Slave,"  but that  would be mean.

 

I refuse to call them women, because a real woman wouldn't put up with that shit.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 23, 2013 12:48 PM (0HooB)

154 If the people want me to be their President, I will see to it that there is established a panel to recommend the creation of a commission which will make recommendations to the Agency For the Advocacy of the Rights of All Women Anywhere to Be Given The Full Rights of All People which I will establish which will send a letter the the UN Human Rights Commission to look into this matter.
Never let it be said that I don't care about those less fortunate than me.

Posted by: Hillary! at September 23, 2013 12:48 PM (bJm7W)

155 No worries. Their soccer team is great. Just ask NPR!

Posted by: Caliban at September 23, 2013 04:47 PM (DrC22)


Of course they're great, their anuses depend on it.


(too much?)

Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at September 23, 2013 12:48 PM (p7BzH)

156 A widespread, First-World-Wide asylum for Afghan women. Perfectly okay. But there has to be one demand - any Muslim women wanting out have to leave their medieval values behind. If they can't separate themselves from forced usage of burkhas and headscarves and whatever other crap is associated with their religion, then they can stay where they are.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at September 23, 2013 12:49 PM (vd7A8)

157 Fuck it.  Let the missiles fly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Fly, my pretties!!!  Fly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: President Sarah Palin at September 23, 2013 12:49 PM (PzbX0)

158 A widespread, First-World-Wide asylum for Afghan women. Oh,shit.

Posted by: Afgan Goats at September 23, 2013 12:49 PM (mETGQ)

159

"Reinstalling the king means also reinstalling the aristocracy. "

 

That's the beauty of a monarchy.  You have the power to grant lands and titles, so you can delegate.

 

Make deals with who you can and kill those you can't.  Rule with an iron fist so that the people know who is in charge. 

 

Peace and prosperity.

Posted by: jwest at September 23, 2013 12:49 PM (u2a4R)

160     
      I know an Air Force PJ named Reilly who once told me that, in his opinion, the entire country of Afghanistan has one big case of PTSD, based on the continuous warfare that has existed there since the late 1970s.  He said that he personally saw women over there just get up and abandon their infants, just like that.  I never had to advise Afghans (I had my hands full with the spoiled, rich assholes from the UAE I was advising), but the SF guys and SEALs I knew in Kandahar used to tell me similar kinds of stories. 

    Every day, I thank the Big Guy Upstairs that I was born in the United States....

Posted by: Pave Low John at September 23, 2013 12:49 PM (y89Wu)

161 Probably already mentioned but Lois Lerner is retiring.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2013 12:50 PM (oFCZn)

162 Speaking of Afghanistan snd Taliban, this is a good time to remind everyone we still have an American POW in that hell hole...over 4 years now. Please don't forget him. Obama is too busy helping Al Qaeda and golfing to do anything about it, that shitbag. Please don't forget him. I don't know his name, that's how much I suck.

Posted by: soothsayer at September 23, 2013 12:51 PM (LbdZK)

163

Every day, I thank the Big Guy Upstairs that I was born in the United States....

 

Me too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at September 23, 2013 12:51 PM (0HooB)

164

@153

I don't speak to them at all because I know their rules.  It can be awkward because American women in my neighborhood who are clueless introduce me to these abayaed Muslimas and I just say "hi".    

"Where is your husband or male relative?" I never add.  

Posted by: Beagle, Director of the FMPP at September 23, 2013 12:51 PM (sOtz/)

165

I think we did have a girl who was at risk of honor killing applying for asylum? I know that happened in Canada, oh, back in 2004-5? Plus, I guess if a woman is being condemned to die by stoning she could apply for asylum? But 9yo girls gotta have written permission from their folks maybe.

Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:51 PM (3ZtZW)

166 Probably already mentioned but Lois Lerner is retiring.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2013 04:50 PM (oFCZn)


With her pension and other benefits in tact, no doubt.

Posted by: Retread at September 23, 2013 12:52 PM (G+w7R)

167 I doubt it would make any difference. What would eventually happen is that Afghani men would just kidnap women from neighbouring countries or put the word out to slave traders that a brand new country was open for their business. If they went into neighboring countries, some of those countries would start bombing Afghani men. And more slave traders just gives Liam Neeson more to kill.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 23, 2013 12:53 PM (QF8uk)

168 Is the Northern Alliance kaput over there? Or can we just turn the country over to them, like we should have done at the beginning?

Posted by: toby928© at September 23, 2013 12:54 PM (QupBk)

169 >>>>And we LOST to these asshats?>>>>

No. They're negotiating with Karzai. The last few times they've gone up against the ANA, they've had their asses kicked. So we didn't lose.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 23, 2013 12:54 PM (TJw7K)

170 Ace, I beat you to it. http://tinyurl.com/motoxlw

Posted by: Jason at September 23, 2013 12:54 PM (YT5Q5)

171 Top Afghan Policewoman killed... Emma Graham-Harrison The Guardian The latest is likely to severely dent the morale of the 30 or so remaining female officers, mostly younger and far less experienced. "They have given us warning that one of us will be killed every three months and we will be killed one by one." Only 1% of police in Afghanistan are female. The country would never tackle the appalling levels of violence against women unless their numbers rose. === Taliban are funded by Saudi Wahhabi Sunnis, the most brutal dictatorship from Mecca that denies everyone's human rights. They're misogynists who particularly take insidious pleasure by torturing females from birth to grave. Given Sunni Wahhabi Sharia, the increased numbers of female Afghan police will increase the appalling increase of violence against women. To tackle violence against women, the men must take the lead. And they will not. The violence against women is a Sunni Wahhabi religious "right" of every Muslim male. The only reason there are any female Afghan police is an imposition by the US government "trainers" of Afghan "democracy" which, given Majority Rule by Sunnis, has no place whatsoever for any female leaders, let alone Law Enforcers. How does a female Afghan enforce Sharia Law to tackle violence against women when even her male counterparts at work refuse to acknowledge the female's human rights?

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 23, 2013 12:55 PM (MhA4j)

172 We'd should do a one for one trade: for each Afghan woman granted asylum here we give one goat in payment. Not sure the men would miss their wimmins, except for making sammiches.

Posted by: Retread at September 23, 2013 12:55 PM (G+w7R)

173 Every day, I thank the Big Guy Upstairs that I was born in the United States.... Posted by: Pave Low John at September 23, 2013 04:49 PM (y89Wu) Even with all the damage that's been done, we've at least seen circumstances of relative peace and prosperity that many in the world believe are a myth.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at September 23, 2013 12:55 PM (qyfb5)

174 "A widespread, First-World-Wide asylum for Afghan women.

Take their women. Well, not take them; just offer them a way out. Let the population plunge and in 40 years you've got no problems."



While asylum in the first world would be a humane policy, many here have pointed out various problems with that approach.  I have a modest proposal that might have more chance for producing positive results.



Build a modern superhighway from Kabul to the Chinese border.  If possible, build a railroad from Kabul to the Chinese border as well.  Since the Chinese have been killing off their female babies for three decades now, there is a fairly significant imbalance in the sex ratios in China.  Chinese women are higher status wives and Chinese women are tending to migrate in to the cities where life is easier and a bit more prosperous.  Farmers in remote rural areas will probably be willing to pay for a wife even if she is a lower status Afghan who can't even speak Chinese.  Even if an individual farmer can't afford to pay for a wife, his relatives can probably chip in and come up with the price.



Life as the wife of a Chinese farmer may be no picnic but by all descriptions it seems better than life as a woman in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at September 23, 2013 12:55 PM (31Nrp)

175 Srsly, am reading "Taliban" (2000) by Ahmed Rashid. We put billions in. Saudis put a s**tload in, Iran, Pak., even India revitalized the national airline at one point.
In some earlier period, before it occurred to a very few Afghans that an alliance with the Soviet Union was in any way a good idea, it seems women had more say, girls went to school, Herat was supposed to have been an irrigated Eden (among others), and they flew kites in Kabul.
The best we could do before the Taliban took Kabul was to try to buy back the stinger missiles we gave to the mujahedin. (Iran took 5 at a cool mill each.)
Between Jimmeh Carter and Slick Willie Clinton, they didn't really have much hope.
[Did Rove want disarray in Afgh. to make it easier for his bacha bazi buddies?]

Posted by: High-grade Moron Isotopes/thousands of centrifuges at September 23, 2013 12:55 PM (tfSla)

176 170 Ace, I beat you to it. Piker.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 23, 2013 12:57 PM (QF8uk)

177 yay im done bye all

Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hand at September 23, 2013 12:57 PM (3ZtZW)

178

I'll bet that if we did install a puppet king, he would be so grateful that he would set a portion of his kingdom aside as a place where the U.S. could send it's violent criminals instead of the expensive prisons they are housed in now.

 

Just like Australia was the new beginning for British prisoners, some shit hole piece of land in Afghanistan could be the promised land for our hardened criminals.

 

See, everything working together for a better tomorrow.

Posted by: jwest at September 23, 2013 12:59 PM (u2a4R)

179 I am against importing any muslims. Their ideology is poisonous and we are having a hell of a time with our homegrown leftists. We don't need to exacerbate our situation, though of course, Obama is doing his best to...

Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at September 23, 2013 12:59 PM (p7BzH)

180 174. Chinese commie spoiled men would gladly rape non-Chinese women. But there are no more racist people than the Chinese. As a policy, Red Chinese men would never marry Afghan women.

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 23, 2013 01:01 PM (MhA4j)

181 Could it be that the only solution is the assasination of Pashtun males. Perhaps all of them. Give the females a chance. Of course, given the chance, the females might just recreate this same social pathology.

Posted by: MTF at September 23, 2013 01:03 PM (iLYus)

182 The ME needs a safe haven for women. Too bad Islam has no place for females except as slave property to their male family member. Other faiths organize nunneries, places of faith and refuge, training professionals to run hospitals, clinics, to garden, to weave for self sufficiency and for their own contributions to the indigent.

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 23, 2013 01:05 PM (MhA4j)

183 No reason for the West to export/import Muslims to save them from themselves. They want their Identity. So don't mess up by bringing that Identity here to juxtapose itself above our own Identity. Rather, turn to Syria or Turkey or even Iran to host a Muslim outreach for battered (Sunni) women. Chances are something already exists. Yes, politically make it all about the damned Sunnis since they are by FAR the worst ever barbarians advancing themselves to rule the globe. Rely on Muslims to fund/donate a place for women, where the jewels of ancient civilization yet have not been destroyed by encroaching fundamentalists, by CIA operators and mercenaries, and even by the US Air Force while allied with these horrible Wahhabi terrorists al-Qaeda/Muslim-Bro. Realize that the US Air Force wiped out the nation of Libya that had modernized to make room socially and legally, educationally and professionally for human rights including equal opportunity for Women. Whatever infringements made by Gaddafi could be argued as equal opportunity abuse to maintain his power to keep Libya stabilized for its various populations and tribes.

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 23, 2013 01:19 PM (MhA4j)

184

@170

Great minds.  I beat you though.  Now would be the time to have a big brainy circle jerk and congratulate ourselves.   Not like anything is going to happen on this front.

Great op-ed, btw, scholarly n' stuff.    

 

It is heartening to see CAIR (WTF) getting slammed in the Daily Caller.  Twelve years late, but still awesome.  

Posted by: Beagle, Director of the FMPP at September 23, 2013 01:20 PM (sOtz/)

185 "180 174. Chinese commie spoiled men would gladly rape non-Chinese women. But there are no more racist people than the Chinese. As a policy, Red Chinese men would never marry Afghan women.

Posted by: panzernashorn at September 23, 2013 05:01 PM (MhA4j)"



Then they can buy them as concubines.  Whatever.  The fact is that they can't find Chinese wives.  They might be able to buy a North Korean refugee but those are in rather limited supply.  If they can make money at it, I am pretty sure that Chinese officials will be happy to overlook an industry that supplies Afghan women to serve as Sally Hemings to several million poor Chinese farmers.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at September 23, 2013 01:29 PM (31Nrp)

186 I support genocide for the Pashtun. They are human slime and always have been.

Posted by: Sammy at September 23, 2013 02:23 PM (HMI9a)

187

That NatGeo girl.  Thought about her a lot.  If she could have been brought to civilization before it was too late....

 

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at September 23, 2013 02:26 PM (oioKB)

188 Marcus @ 87-
That 'culture' that wants to kill us IS ubama's culture.

Posted by: EROWMER at September 23, 2013 02:42 PM (OONaw)

189

The ME needs a safe haven for women.

And Christians. And Hindus. And gays. And Athiests. And capitalism. And democracy. And freedom loving liberals. And intellectuals.And dissidents.  And free from the dogs of the religious police. And free of the oil-money wahhabi fucks. And free of all imans, ayatollahs, and other assholes preaching this shit. Free of mention of that piss-mohamad . Free of child rape and GM. And well. I could go on, but basically a haven from islam. Especially free from any constitutional reference to islam or sharia. If islam is not considered the quaint backwaters rock-bowing cult of the arabian goat-fuckers in the dust of the radioactive fallout, then we are not done.

If we provide free areas here, we will just shrink smaller in the sphere we consider free, in faith and real territory.

I'm sure if we succeed we will still have the other problems; tribalism, jeleousy, hate, greed, suffering... but we'll be rid of one of the main drivers.And one of our enemies.

When we can make this profitable is when it will happen. If we can make it self replicating, then maybe we'll survive and prosper as well. That is their method, if not model. Which is ascendent. ?

Posted by: meleager at September 23, 2013 05:26 PM (V0Tr2)

190 Take their women. Well, not take them; just offer them a way out. Let the population plunge and in 40 years you've got no problems....

Would'a
could'a
should'a

My offer, post 9-11, was in the normal course of martial law,

1) anyone caught outside between one hour before sunset and one hour after sunrise will be shot on site.
2) anyone caught outside in a burka/concealment will be shot on site.
3) any man caught outside will be shot on site... maybe loosen that one up and give the men an hour +/- high noon.

But what do you expect when a liberal panty waste CiC is thinking "indoor plumbing will make then LOVE us"

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2013 05:37 PM (80R0X)

191 I used to work for women's international NGOs (freelance). I remember one day (around 1993), one of the Pakistani women asking me passionately, "Where are the WESTERN FEMINISTS? Why won't they help us?"

Indeed.

When I repeated that question to the New York radfems I knew, they bristled defensively and swore they were doing all they could (nothing, really). But they were much too worried about whether enough Western Feminists had won the Tony Award for Directing, etc., to pay any attention to problems moslem women face.

Posted by: Beverly at September 23, 2013 08:10 PM (iW9/C)

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