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May 22, 2013

Tamerlan Tsarnaev and His Buddy Murdered Three Jewish Men in 2011, Sources Say
— Ace

JUST IN: Boston bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev and man killed by FBI in Orlando responsible for 2011 triple homicide, sources say
— NBC News (@NBCNews) May 22, 2013

You probably remember hearing that the Brothers Tsarnaever were suspected in a 2011 triple homicide (taking place around the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks).

More information is coming out now. Courtesy of ABCNews, we now know the three men were either beheaded or nearly beheaded (anyone see a trend?). Apparently at least one of them was involved in selling pot; marijuana was tossed over his bloodied body. Drugs and cash were left at the scene of the crime.

Via ABCNews:

Tsarnaev had also been close to one of the murder victims, 25-year-old Brendan Mess, investigators told ABC. The two had been training together in a local gym Â–each helping the other with a missing element from their fighting arsenal. Tsarnaev, a golden-gloves heavy weight boxer, lacked martial arts training. And Mess, an experienced jiu jitsu competitor, lacked boxing experience.
The two sparred together at an Allston, MA gym called Wai Kru...
Tsarnaev and Mess lived just a few blocks apart in Cambridge, in the same predominantly Russian neighborhood. Authorities believe there were times Mess crashed at Tsarnaev's apartment.
It was unclear if Tsarnaev knew the other men slain, Raphael Teken, 37, and Erik Weissman, 31.

Given that Jafar smoked pot, it is speculated that this was possibly some sort of Honor Killing by Tamerlan, living out some kind of murderous avenger fantasy, most likely due to his increasing interest in a religion that promotes murderous avenger fantasies.

Or it could simply be yet another beheading of members of a group that Muslims don't like, which is everyone who is not Muslim.

Corrected: I wrote the three victims were Jewish. I think I got that off of Twitter-- but now I don't see any real confirmation of that.

Meanwhile.... Things are just lovely in Stockholm.

Update: At Hot Air, NBC reports that Todashev confessed. And it was just a drug deal gone bad.

Or so he said.

Dead Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev and another man Â— who was killed by the FBI on Wednesday Â— murdered three people in Massachusetts after a drug deal went wrong in 2011, law enforcement sources tell NBC News.
Sources say that what began as a drug ripoff ended in a triple homicide when Tsarnaev and friend Ibragim Todashev realized their victims would later be able to identify them.

Posted by: Ace at 02:09 PM | Comments (163)
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1 Amnesty for all!

Posted by: Rubio at May 22, 2013 02:09 PM (nsOJa)

2 Speechless.

Posted by: pj at May 22, 2013 02:10 PM (ZWaLo)

3 Too easy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2013 02:10 PM (O6Tmi)

4 He's not gonna be doing any speaking.... FBI took him down, and quickly.... No, I'm not gonna put my tin foil hat on but....

Posted by: hello, it's me Donna at May 22, 2013 02:10 PM (9+ccr)

5 I wrote before that we should set an example and behead this vermin!

Posted by: CarolT at May 22, 2013 02:11 PM (z4WKX)

6 We're on the hunt! We're cracking down!

On conservative non-profits.

Posted by: IRS at May 22, 2013 02:11 PM (ZWaLo)

7 Whew, a break from scandalpollooza. Uh, oh this story has *whispers* Muslim fellers. Is the room closing in on us?

Posted by: MSM at May 22, 2013 02:12 PM (nsOJa)

8 Until the headlines say something like:

Murderous Islamists Decapitate Jews in Jihad Killing," it's all just cover for these savages.

We need to get serious, or we are going to lose.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2013 02:12 PM (O6Tmi)

9 Self-radicalized low-level lone wolf pack suffering from teen angst.

Posted by: NYT Headline Writer at May 22, 2013 02:12 PM (hpYnL)

10 NBC? What happened to the boycott?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 22, 2013 02:13 PM (BBWjt)

11 Apparently Todashev admitted he and Tamarlan killed the men and then attacked the FBI agent who then shot and killed him.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 22, 2013 02:13 PM (pAlYe)

12 Who needs Miranda when you have .40 HP's?

Posted by: FBI at May 22, 2013 02:13 PM (Cs2tJ)

13 Who needs Miranda when you have .40 HP's? This one I like.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at May 22, 2013 02:14 PM (4Mv1T)

14 This has nothing to do with 9/11 people.

Posted by: MFM at May 22, 2013 02:14 PM (nsOJa)

Seems convenient, too convenient.

But it is likely that someone who is willing to murder innocent men, women, and children with a bomb has been a violent murderer before.

And the idiot in FLA threw down with a couple of people in a parking lot over a parking space. Obviously he was not too tightly wrapped either.

Posted by: rd at May 22, 2013 02:15 PM (D+lxs)

16
I didn't think the FBI and CIA could get any worse after 9/11, but they have.

Not just this case (interviewing 'former Chechen rebels' in NH and after-hours reservoir sight-seeers), but the case in Cleveland.

But hey, the found Whitey Bulger!...hiding in plain sight in California.

Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at May 22, 2013 02:15 PM (LVtr+)

17
Well, case closed. All nice and tidy.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 22, 2013 02:15 PM (jKWYf)

18 we now know the three men were either beheaded or nearly beheaded (anyone see a trend?) Yes... There can be only one.

Posted by: Connor Macleod at May 22, 2013 02:16 PM (XvHmy)

19 10 NBC? What happened to the boycott? Posted by: chemjeff at May 22, 2013 06:13 PM (BBWjt) You know how much money NBC makes off of tweets? $0 You know how much money NBC makes somebody directly embedding their tweets and not providing a link? <$0

Posted by: AmishDude at May 22, 2013 02:16 PM (xSegX)

20 Hehe...fucker got pwned.

Posted by: EC at May 22, 2013 02:18 PM (doBIb)

21
Hey, Rubio and Ryan, let's draft a bill that let Muslim terrorists living in the US "come out of the shadows."

oh wait, just like illegals, they already are out of the shadows!

you two ninnies

Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at May 22, 2013 02:18 PM (xIzGn)

22
I am kind of surprised they didn't go drone strike in this case.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 22, 2013 02:18 PM (jKWYf)

23 I've had enough of muslims today.

Posted by: EC at May 22, 2013 02:18 PM (doBIb)

24 I really think some of you guys have to look up "boycott."

Posted by: Rick Tempest, Boycott Authority at May 22, 2013 02:18 PM (LCRYB)

25 8 Until the headlines say something like: Murderous Islamists Decapitate Jews in Jihad Killing," it's all just cover for these savages. We need to get serious, or we are going to lose. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2013 06:12 PM (O6Tmi) ----------------- The headlines will read: Jews No Longer Suspect in Triple De-capitations.

Posted by: Soona at May 22, 2013 02:19 PM (dpvQD)

26 Hey, Rubio and Ryan, let's draft a bill

Now you went and did it.

Posted by: Hunker down at May 22, 2013 02:19 PM (Cs2tJ)

27 The funny thing about leftards is the shocked look they have on their faces when the Islamic sword comes down on their neck. They remind me of people who speak baby talk to a dog and then think they really understand animals.

Posted by: maddogg at May 22, 2013 02:19 PM (OlN4e)

/looks down on Stockholm

Hiemdall.... prepare the Heroes... it is almost time....

Posted by: Odin AllFather at May 22, 2013 02:19 PM (lZBBB)

29 I really think some of you guys have to look up "boycott."

Did someone say boy?

Posted by: Racist! at May 22, 2013 02:19 PM (nsOJa)

30 "Raphael Teken, 37, and Erik Weissman, 31." These two were probably jewish.

Posted by: scofflawx at May 22, 2013 02:19 PM (hcgfJ)

31 Did you say yoots?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 22, 2013 02:20 PM (pxDth)

32 Ole Speedbump, like many of his muzzie buddies, seems a bit confused about the whole concept of 'getting head'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 22, 2013 02:20 PM (ccXZP)

33 Things are also going swimmingly in London tonight.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 22, 2013 02:20 PM (+z4pE)

34 Posted by: AmishDude at May 22, 2013 06:16 PM (xSegX)

It still gives them undeserved exposure.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 22, 2013 02:21 PM (BBWjt)

35 I really think some of you guys have to look up "boycott."

Did someone say boy?

I'll take this one.

Posted by: Harry Reid at May 22, 2013 02:21 PM (nsOJa)

36 What about a pointed stick?

Posted by: Vlad (Monty) Tepes at May 22, 2013 02:21 PM (DL2i+)

37 Probably practice. He was into training.

Posted by: Bigby's Dusty Hands at May 22, 2013 02:21 PM (RLTt1)

38 11 Apparently Todashev admitted he and Tamarlan killed the men and then attacked the FBI agent who then shot and killed him.

Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at May 22, 2013 06:13 PM (pAlYe)

See Rookie? THATS how ya close a CASE!

Posted by: Senior FBI Agent at May 22, 2013 02:21 PM (lZBBB)

39 Submit!

Posted by: The Caliphate at May 22, 2013 02:21 PM (Rs+YG)

40 I wrote the three victims were Jewish. I think I got that off of Twitter-- but now I don't see any real confirmation of that.

Maybe look for some.

The three guys were named Mess, Teken, and Weissmann. Those three names will net you, on average, 2.7 Jews.

You should probably get your U.S. news from the Mail instead of ABC and NBC. Mail stories are dumb, but they have information in them.

Posted by: oblig. is crabby at May 22, 2013 02:21 PM (cePv8)

41 Hubby and I watched 300 last night. We needna citizenry like that to wipe these effers out.

Posted by: Jmel at May 22, 2013 02:21 PM (9tSXa)

42 "Raphael Teken, 37, and Erik Weissman, 31." These two were probably jewish. According to Wiki (yeah, I know) Weissman was outspoken about being Jewish and Teken was buried in Israel. The third guy, Brendan Mess, we don't know.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 22, 2013 02:22 PM (xSegX)

43 all 3 were drug dealers. at least 2 were Jewish. How do you think the 6 month trip was financed? he left after that. Yeah he left 5000, that is enough to buy what 1 or 2 pounds of good weed? There were 3 drug dealers killed a lot more than 5000 was taken away

Posted by: occam at May 22, 2013 02:22 PM (DAHhf)

44 41 Hubby and I watched 300 last night. We needna citizenry like that to wipe these effers out.

Posted by: Jmel at May 22, 2013 06:21 PM (9tSXa)

But we do have them....

Posted by: Evor, Obama Administration Aide at May 22, 2013 02:23 PM (lZBBB)

45 We need a three lone wolf moon t-shirt for the jihad. Those are bitchin'. I kill you.

Posted by: Achmed the dead terrorist at May 22, 2013 02:23 PM (bAGA/)

46 A fine Mess:

http://youtu.be/8wcmEwCg3c4

Posted by: logprof at May 22, 2013 02:23 PM (+iA5G)

47
Posted by: occam

Get back under the stairs!

Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at May 22, 2013 02:23 PM (ZgBZU)

48 Given that Jafar smoked pot What does the Grand Vizier from the first Prince of Persia have to do with this?

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 22, 2013 02:24 PM (T/00Y)

49 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 02:24 PM (/PCJa)

50 26 Hey, Rubio and Ryan, let's draft a bill
Now you went and did it.
Posted by: Hunker down at May 22, 2013 06:19 PM (Cs2tJ)

Ah so you chose option 2 then. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 22, 2013 02:24 PM (pAlYe)

51 We have a friend we sponsored here as a student who is Swedish living near Stockholm. He keeps trying to convince himself they don't have a Muslim problem.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 02:24 PM (lVPtV)

52 What does the Grand Vizier from the first Prince of Persia have to do with this?

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 22, 2013 06:24 PM (T/00Y)

Prince of Persia????

Posted by: Aladin at May 22, 2013 02:25 PM (lZBBB)

53 >>Hubby and I watched 300 last night. We needna citizenry like that to wipe these effers out. Funny. I watched it on Sunday night. Every time I saw Xerxes I thought of Obama. And that ugly misshapen hunchback, Kathryn Ruemmler.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2013 02:25 PM (g1DWB)

54 Anyone have a link to the video that caused this young man to feel so humiliated that he attacked an FBI agent?

Posted by: The Drizzle at May 22, 2013 02:25 PM (ysCLj)

55 Jihadi: We kill you in the name of Allah!
MSM: Motives unclear today as to why someone was attacked and decapitated...
Jihadi: Islam means submission, and we will make the unbelievers submit or die.
MSM: Some experts believe the West's persistent xenophobia and racism can cause normally peaceful persons of unknown religious affiliation to become a little cranky.
Jihadi: There is no law but Allah's and we are his soldiers.
MSM: Other experts believe it's because they are angry with our soft-serve ice cream...

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 22, 2013 02:25 PM (dwArK)

56 @18 Good one

Posted by: CanaDave at May 22, 2013 02:25 PM (XiR4D)

57 You know, it might just be time to start treating such "gangs" of "youths" as military insurgents and meeting them as such.

I don't think the Swedish Military (for what its worth) would be the ones running.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 02:25 PM (/PCJa)

58 Japan doesn't have problems with crazy beheading muslims. Cause they don't let muslims in. What is wrong with banning immigration from muslim countries. Is it discrimination against Islam? Yeah, that's the fucking point.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 22, 2013 02:26 PM (ZPrif)

59 I asked on the last thread, has anyone else seen the trailer for The Purge? It looks interesting.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 22, 2013 02:26 PM (piMMO)

60 I think it may be time for a new Amendment,one "religion" needs to be singled out as positive danger.

Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2013 02:26 PM (9XBK2)

61 It looks interesting.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 22, 2013 06:26 PM (piMMO)

I liked, "The Binge," which was the first in the series.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2013 02:27 PM (O6Tmi)

62 The beheadings will continue until respect for Islam improves.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 02:27 PM (lVPtV)

Meanwhile...things are just lovely in Stockholm....and London.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 22, 2013 02:27 PM (WLywR)

64 Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2013 06:26 PM (9XBK2)

It already has: Fundamentalist Christianity.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2013 02:28 PM (O6Tmi)

65 MSM: Other experts believe it's because they are angry with our soft-serve ice cream...

If it helps, I'm really angry that Wendy's has a vanilla Frosty and thinks I'm dumb enough that I wouldn't ask for a "vanilla Frosty" if I wanted one.

Does that count?

I asked on the last thread, has anyone else seen the trailer for The Purge?

I've never heard of it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 02:28 PM (/PCJa)

66 Just think of the world without muslims

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 22, 2013 02:28 PM (jE38p)

67 jesus, what's going on with these youths and asians? they're acting like their muslim or something.

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 22, 2013 02:28 PM (QxSug)

68 64 Ha!Actually not funny because it's true.

Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2013 02:28 PM (9XBK2)

69 >>>Sources say that what began as a drug ripoff ended in a triple homicide when Tsarnaev and friend Ibragim Todashev realized their victims would later be able to identify them. Hahahah, yeah, NO. Why the fuck would they leave the drugs there?

Posted by: Eaton Cox at May 22, 2013 02:29 PM (q177U)

70 Is it discrimination against Islam? Yeah, that's the fucking point.

Do you know how many heads you just made go 'splodey?

Posted by: Liberal Does Not Compute! at May 22, 2013 02:29 PM (nsOJa)

71 This is also one reason to avoid drugs and drug culture in general. What's the line -- the guy you buy pot might be just your stoner friend. The guy he buys pot from is pretty much a professional drug dealer. And the guy that guy buys pot from is the kind who has no problem leaving your body in parts in a garbage bag. Once you get involved in an illegal industry like drugs, you're only a few connections away from some really bad, really violent people.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 22, 2013 02:30 PM (ZPrif)

72 I liked, "The Binge," which was the first in the series. *** HAHAHHAHA!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 22, 2013 02:30 PM (piMMO)

73 Why the fuck would they leave the drugs there?

The bags got ripped open in the struggle?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 02:30 PM (/PCJa)

74 69 AND the money.No,always anything to cover up the crimes of that "religion".

Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2013 02:30 PM (9XBK2)

75
are they saying "London Strong" yet?

probably not, right? that would be offensive to someone

Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at May 22, 2013 02:30 PM (LVtr+)

76 Fox is reporting Maj. Hassan has fired his attorneys and will represent himself.

This should be interesting.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 02:31 PM (lVPtV)

77 I liked, "The Binge," which was the first in the series.

The toker's mantra: "puff, puff, give."
The bulimic's mantra: "stuff, stuff, purge."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 02:31 PM (/PCJa)

78 66 Just think of the world without muslims

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 22, 2013 06:28 PM (jE38p)

Imagine theres no Muzzies....

It isn't hard to do....

No one to murder or kill you....

That the religions through...

Imagine all those before us...

Living life in Peace....

Posted by: John Lenon's Smarter Twin at May 22, 2013 02:31 PM (lZBBB)

I asked on the last thread, has anyone else seen the trailer for The Purge?

It looks interesting.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 22, 2013 06:26 PM (piMMO)

It looks like our future. Ignore, excuse, accept, and finally make it official and legal

Posted by: rd at May 22, 2013 02:31 PM (D+lxs)

80 Think of a world where Muslims had not been allowed to leave their flea infested shitholes in the first place. Much improved, I would think.

Posted by: maddogg at May 22, 2013 02:31 PM (OlN4e)

I asked on the last thread, has anyone else seen the trailer for The Purge?

It looks interesting.

They had an ad on the Spurs game last night. It looks like a very slight twist on every home invasion movie you've ever seen.

That's the problem with being a curmudgeon: you can watch the trailers of about 80% of movies and tell exactly how they end. And it doesn't help that Hollyweird ran out of imagination about 20 years ago.

My lawn, you're standing on it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 22, 2013 02:31 PM (+z4pE)

82 What is wrong with banning immigration from muslim countries. Oh, I don't know. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and apostates from Muslim countries sound OK to me.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 22, 2013 02:32 PM (xSegX)

83 76 Who will change his diapers now?Ah silly me,of course the gubmint will take care of all that.

Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2013 02:32 PM (9XBK2)

84 Fox is reporting Maj. Hassan...

It was just "workplace violence", what's the big deal.

Posted by: Nothing To See Here at May 22, 2013 02:32 PM (nsOJa)

85 OT: If illegal immigrants are not required to pay back taxes (their liability is waived, per Schumer) would that not mean that the IRS would be discriminating based on National Origin, when those who are here legally are not given that same pass?

Posted by: EveR at May 22, 2013 02:32 PM (pPOhx)

86 This is largely Irrelevant.

Posted by: White House Source at May 22, 2013 02:32 PM (ndlFj)

87 Heh. Biden getting a dig in at his boss.

Says Preezy Choom is trying to learn how to speak without a teleprompter.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 02:32 PM (lVPtV)

88 76Fox is reporting Maj. Hassan has fired his attorneys and will represent himself.

This should be interesting.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 06:31 PM (lVPtV)

He can afford it, and you paid for it.

Posted by: maddogg at May 22, 2013 02:32 PM (OlN4e)

89 Once you get involved in an illegal industry like drugs, you're only a few connections away from some really bad, really violent people.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 22, 2013 06:30 PM (ZPrif)

Three degrees of unfreedom!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 22, 2013 02:32 PM (Cnqmv)

90 Slashing throats is just a gateway crime.

Posted by: Dang at May 22, 2013 02:33 PM (Hx2XA)

91 I'm pretty sure I saw Ruemmler with a pressure cooker in Boston - there was a women's fingerprint they couldn't identify.

Posted by: [/i]An Observation at May 22, 2013 02:33 PM (ylhEn)

92 I don't really know much about the world of drug dealers and drug rip offs but don't they usually take the money and drugs instead of sprinkling them on top of the bodies?

If leaving the drugs and money is the common practice, what is the financial advantage to doing drug rip offs?

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at May 22, 2013 02:34 PM (31Nrp)

93
Never ever argue with Ace.

Look up quagmire.

Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at May 22, 2013 02:34 PM (8dspl)

>>>Sources say that what began as a drug ripoff ended in a triple homicide when Tsarnaev and friend Ibragim Todashev realized their victims would later be able to identify them.

Hahahah, yeah, NO. Why the fuck would they leave the drugs there?

Posted by: Eaton Cox at May 22, 2013 06:29 PM (q177U)

Some low level druggie trying to move a coule of kilos? That would have gotten them a lot of attention. Alternatively, maybe thay got religion (of pieces).

Posted by: rd at May 22, 2013 02:34 PM (D+lxs)

95 Lois Lerner -- Lois Lane's shrewish older sister.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 22, 2013 02:34 PM (ZPrif)

96 Fox is reporting Maj. Hassan has fired his attorneys and will represent himself. This should be interesting. Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 06:31 PM (lVPtV) What a stand up guy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 22, 2013 02:34 PM (jE38p)

97 We need an Amendment because we have to cover not only immigrants from certain countries but immigrants of a particular religion from anywhere they may come from.Also if a person already here converts,huge red flag,converts are usually worse.

Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2013 02:34 PM (9XBK2)

98 It was just "workplace violence", what's the big deal.

That reminds me: I heard something about that today that I either hadn't heard or hadn't quite understood previously.

Apparently, while Major Traitor-to-his-country is getting paid a nice salary for being a traitor to his country, the wounded survivors of his little rampage aren't getting all the benefits they should because the attack was deemed "workplace violence" instead of an act of war (or terror).

In case your blood pressure was in danger of nearing normal.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 02:34 PM (/PCJa)

99 Once you get involved in an illegal industry like drugs, you're only a few connections away from some really bad, really violent people. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 22, 2013 06:30 PM (ZPrif) Funny. I never hear about the violent Kinder egg gangs. http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/26/the-kinder-egg-kerfuffle/

Posted by: AmishDude at May 22, 2013 02:34 PM (xSegX)

100 94 Never ever argue with Ace. Look up quagmire. Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at May 22, 2013 06:34 PM (8dspl) Giggity giggity.. I don't see the connection.

Posted by: RWC at May 22, 2013 02:35 PM (Wl/Ht)

101 Posted by: EveR at May 22, 2013 06:32 PM (pPOhx)

Raaaacist H8r!

It is just so much easier to give these illegals a pass on back taxes (and other assorted crimes like identity theft) because it will encourage them to vote Dem.

"Real" citizens, you're already screwed and your vote can't be counted on because so many of you actually work.

Posted by: Weimar Republican at May 22, 2013 02:35 PM (Cnqmv)

102 99 Until he is convicted he is still an officer in the US Army.He has been paid $278.000 as he awaits trial.

Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2013 02:36 PM (9XBK2)

103 I think it was an initiation rite of sorts, killing Jewish drug dealers on 9/11, like being jumped into the crips. He needed some cred for the real hardcases back in Checnya.

Posted by: Jean at May 22, 2013 02:36 PM (CMlD4)

104 This is also one reason to avoid drugs and drug culture in general.

What's the line -- the guy you buy pot might be just your stoner friend. The guy he buys pot from is pretty much a professional drug dealer. And the guy that guy buys pot from is the kind who has no problem leaving your body in parts in a garbage bag.

Once you get involved in an illegal industry like drugs, you're only a few connections away from some really bad, really violent people.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 22, 2013 06:30 PM (ZPrif)

-----------------------------------------------------

No shit! Not saying that I've had any real experience with that.

Posted by: Soona at May 22, 2013 02:36 PM (wT39m)

105 SIDEBAR: Too difficult to get illegals to pay back taxes? But, they have no difficulty hounding citizens regardinng their taxes.

Posted by: Waldo at May 22, 2013 02:36 PM (w+oEo)

106

Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2013 06:34 PM (9XBK2)

steevy, that amendment idea is just opening up a huge Pandora's box which, inevitably, will in the end be used against us instead of the muzzies.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 22, 2013 02:37 PM (BBWjt)

107 There's a chance of running into violent psychos in any walk of life. But you definitely up your odds when you regularly come into contact with an illegal industry like drugs.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 22, 2013 02:37 PM (ZPrif)

108
Funny. I never hear about the violent Kinder egg gangs.

I thought we agreed we wouldn't be speaking German on this blog?

Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at May 22, 2013 02:37 PM (NLH1M)

109 Until he is convicted he is still an officer in the US Army.He has been paid $278.000 as he awaits trial. Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2013 06:36 PM (9XBK2) ??? How is he passing his semi-annual PRTs? Is he crawling a mile and a half in 13 minutes?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 22, 2013 02:37 PM (jE38p)

110 "Sen. Ted Cruz: 'I donÂ’t trust Republicans'"

http://tinyurl.com/pys3r39

Posted by: snarky the bear at May 22, 2013 02:37 PM (/b8+5)

111 Until he is convicted he is still an officer in the US Army.He has been paid $278.000 as he awaits trial.

Yeah. I get that. I even sort of agree with it (we have to apply the law equally and such).

My gripe is that by refusing to classify the attack as what it was (that is: an act of war/terror), they're denying benefits to the victims while he's also receiving his nice salary.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 02:38 PM (/PCJa)

112 Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 06:31 PM (lVPtV)

I've been saying for awhile that he wants the death penalty so he can be a martyr. His attorneys evidently weren't getting him his 72 goats fast enough.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 22, 2013 02:38 PM (U22Yw)

113 I had to kill him, officer. He was carrying a Super 8 projector and might have been planning to watch Mo-ham-med videos.

Posted by: Tsarknob Tsarknob at May 22, 2013 02:38 PM (2iU3x)

114 I just heard on the radio that the president is giving a big speech or something?

Posted by: snarky the bear at May 22, 2013 02:38 PM (/b8+5)

115 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 22, 2013 06:37 PM (jE38p)

I'll be at Park West Tavern if you want a drink.

I'm buying, and I'll toast your promotion.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 22, 2013 02:38 PM (O6Tmi)

116 107 Yeah,I've thought of that.Sigh.

Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2013 02:38 PM (9XBK2)

117 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 22, 2013 06:37 PM (jE38p)

I heard the Air Force is letting him use their bike.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 22, 2013 02:38 PM (U22Yw)

118 Just another satisfied "customer" of Obama's ICE, doing the drug deals and murders that lazy Americans won't do.

Posted by: Horrified Observer at May 22, 2013 02:39 PM (/sohm)

119 Never ever argue with Ace.

Look up quagmire.

Posted by: soothsayer

It's akin to challenging someone to a self-strangulation contest.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at May 22, 2013 02:39 PM (dwArK)

120 SIDEBAR: Too difficult to get illegals to pay back taxes? But, they have no difficulty hounding citizens regardinng their taxes.

Posted by: Waldo at May 22, 2013 06:36 PM (w+oEo)

Yes but "real" citizens are, for the most part, behaving legally, so they are easier to terrorize with IRS SWAT teams, and the IRS knows where they live and how much is in their bank accounts.

Posted by: Weimar Republican at May 22, 2013 02:39 PM (Cnqmv)

121 Until he is convicted he is still an officer in the US Army.He has been paid $278.000 as he awaits trial. Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2013 06:36 PM (9XBK2) ??? How is he passing his semi-annual PRTs? Is he crawling a mile and a half in 13 minutes? Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 22, 2013 06:37 PM (jE38p) And since he is obviously TMPQ/Med Waiver and at least now in the Navy 3 of those in 4 years gets you Admin Separated, what is his sorry ass still doing in the Military?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 22, 2013 02:39 PM (jE38p)

122 Tamerlan Tsarnaev and His Buddy Murdered Three Men in 2011, His buddy Kathryn Ruemmler, you mean!

Posted by: t-bird at May 22, 2013 02:39 PM (FcR7P)

123 It looks like our future. Ignore, excuse, accept, and finally make it official and legal *** Ugh. I just read a synopsis of The Purge and I had thought it would be a vigilante pic but, instead, it goes on about how the victims must decide how to deal with the criminals without becoming monsters themselves. Not exactly a pro-self-defense plot.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 22, 2013 02:39 PM (piMMO)

124 And I agree with Cruz.

Posted by: RWC at May 22, 2013 02:39 PM (Wl/Ht)

125 Good thing this wasn't Boston or they'd have had to shut down the entire Commonwealth.

Posted by: Fritz at May 22, 2013 02:39 PM (UzPAd)

126 112 Yeah,that's the part I have the biggest problem with as well.Truly disgusting and once again,the politicians in uniform are toeing the administration line.

Posted by: steevy at May 22, 2013 02:40 PM (9XBK2)

127 nood

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 22, 2013 02:41 PM (X6akg)

128 Fox is reporting Maj. Hassan has fired his attorneys and will represent himself. This should be interesting. Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 06:31 PM (lVPtV) Just another delaying tactic on his part. Gotta keep that sweet Uncle Sam salary rollin' in.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 22, 2013 02:41 PM (673KB)

129
Until he is convicted he is still an officer in the US Army.

Ridiculous, isn't it. Our own rules and laws and rights will end up being our nation's suicide pact.

and: NOOD!

Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at May 22, 2013 02:41 PM (KwX0v)

130 Until he is convicted he is still an officer in the US Army.He has been paid $278.000 as he awaits trial. **** that's nearly $300k he will have handy to pay restitution to the victims.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 22, 2013 02:41 PM (piMMO)

131 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 22, 2013 06:39 PM (jE38p)

Army is a lot more lenient on that at the moment. Also, I think that since he's under charges, that plays a role as well.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 22, 2013 02:42 PM (U22Yw)

132 Wasn't Jafar a genie?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 22, 2013 02:43 PM (V1ZIU)

133 This is where Tamerlan got his Glock with the filed off serial number.

Posted by: RarestRX at May 22, 2013 02:43 PM (OlAq3)

134 86 OT: If illegal immigrants are not required to pay back taxes (their liability is waived, per Schumer) would that not mean that the IRS would be discriminating based on National Origin, when those who are here legally are not given that same pass? ____________________ Tax evasion is not the only crime that is being waived for illegal aliens in the new "comprehensive" amnesty bill. They also won't be prosecuted for U.S. crimes like identity theft, using false/fraudulent documents, perjury on official documents (for all the illegal alien welfare frauds and voter frauds), and a whole host of other crimes that U.S. citizens would certainly be prosecuted for.

Posted by: Horrified Observer at May 22, 2013 02:43 PM (/sohm)

135
It's akin to challenging someone to a self-strangulation contest.

That's an interesting way to put it.

Posted by: soothsayer, now with 20% less ruth at May 22, 2013 02:43 PM (ZgBZU)

136

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 06:38 PM (/PCJa)

I was trying to write something funny about the workplace violence issue, and steam started coming out of my ears because I am so disgusted with the DoD/Obama treatment of the Ft Hood survivors. What a worthless lickspittle and despicable chain of command we now have!

Posted by: Weimar Republican at May 22, 2013 02:44 PM (Cnqmv)

137 Army is a lot more lenient on that at the moment. Also, I think that since he's under charges, that plays a role as well. Posted by: Country Singer at May 22, 2013 06:42 PM (U22Yw) Yeah I hear ya but fuck that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 22, 2013 02:44 PM (jE38p)

138 We're a nation of laws (but only for some people).

Posted by: Horrified Observer at May 22, 2013 02:45 PM (/sohm)

139

Ugh. I just read a synopsis of The Purge and I had thought it would be a vigilante pic but, instead, it goes on about how the victims must decide how to deal with the criminals without becoming monsters themselves.

Not exactly a pro-self-defense plot.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 22, 2013 06:39 PM (piMMO)

Most sane people will look at it as either fort up with friends or Spring Cleaning Night.

Posted by: rd at May 22, 2013 02:46 PM (D+lxs)

140 We're a nation of laws (but only for some people).

Posted by: Horrified Observer at May 22, 2013 06:45 PM (/sohm)

Sorry, my friend, we are now a nation of lawyers, not a nation of laws.

Posted by: Weimar Republican at May 22, 2013 02:48 PM (Cnqmv)

141 In reviewing an application for the amnesty provided in the Senate amnesty bill, the Secretary of Homeland Security is explicitly barred from considering: document forgery, skipping court-ordered removal hearings, making false statements to authorities, multiple illegal re-entries, or felony arrests that did not result in convictions.

Posted by: Horrified Observer at May 22, 2013 02:49 PM (/sohm)

142 Wasn't Jafar a genie? In the platform game Prince of Persia, he's the evil Grand Vizier who tries to kill you in the dungeon and get it on with your buxom sweetheart.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 22, 2013 02:50 PM (T/00Y)

143 In our experience, drug deals "gone bad" almost always result in the survivors leaving both the drugs and the cash behind.

Posted by: F.B.I. at May 22, 2013 02:50 PM (29vnO)

144 It has been said - but it needs to be repeated. Islam is not a religion in the Western sense of the world - any more than a tadpole is a fish just because it lives in water and has gills.

Islam is the embryonic form of an Islamic government masquerading as a religion. Its actual intent is to overthrow the established government in any country it invades and establish a theocracy in its place. By the way there are Islamic sites on the web which make this very point.

This makes Islamics members of a terrorist organization bent on over throwing the government of the United States and allows them to be put in the same legal class as the Klan and the Communists as subversive organizations. We are idiots not to do this.

Posted by: [/i]An Observation at May 22, 2013 02:54 PM (ylhEn)

145 Apparently, while Major Traitor-to-his-country is getting paid a nice salary for being a traitor to his country, the wounded survivors of his little rampage aren't getting all the benefits they should because the attack was deemed "workplace violence" instead of an act of war (or terror).

In case your blood pressure was in danger of nearing normal.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at May 22, 2013 06:34 PM (/PCJa

Yeah, that's been out there for a while. Oh, and no Purple Hearts, either.

This is what a country gets when it elects a Muslim-sympathizing, Marxist community organizer.

Hey, 52%ers, go fuck yourselves and DIAF.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2013 02:59 PM (lVPtV)

146

so the guy admits to the fbi his complicity in a triple murder then attacks them?

Posted by: kj at May 22, 2013 03:04 PM (XKW0w)

147 Actually 131 the 270,000 will be going to either Biden's or Hillary's reelection war chests .

Posted by: DrDrill at May 22, 2013 03:08 PM (9JcOd)

148 The tradition is called 'Gazavat' in their neck of the woods, it's Russian for Holy War, and it goes back about 200 years,

Posted by: Admiral Marcus at May 22, 2013 03:09 PM (Jsiw/)

149 51 - that's what I call Stockholm Syndrome or sticking one end of the alimentary canal up the other end .

Posted by: DrDrill at May 22, 2013 03:11 PM (9JcOd)

150 Why is it that these guys love their porn, their alcohol, and their drugs, plus looking at little girls and trying to kidnap and marry them, but they go on their Jihads for their buddy allah (PBUHA). Doesn't anybody but me see the oddness? By the way, does it seem like we haven't deported any of these visa violators since 9/11? Why the heck not????

Posted by: TimothyJ at May 22, 2013 03:22 PM (0LB6+)

151 kinda reminds me of nov 24, 1963...

Posted by: sound awake at May 22, 2013 03:23 PM (ZjfK8)

152 And it was just a drug deal gone bad. Or so he said. If it was a drug deal gone bad, why would they leave the drugs and money behind?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/b][/u][/s] at May 22, 2013 03:31 PM (CA2NO)

153

What is wrong with banning immigration from muslim countries.

Our goats would be too horny all the time.

Posted by: wth at May 22, 2013 03:45 PM (wAQA5)

154 Right. Two Muslims kill three Jews, leave the drugs and money behind and it's a "drug deal gone bad." That's insanely stupid. Where Chrissy Matthews when you need his clarity.

Posted by: Pastorius at May 22, 2013 03:52 PM (gMAUH)

155 i learned everything i need to know about islam on 9/11...

Posted by: sound awake at May 22, 2013 03:53 PM (ZjfK8)

156 And this just in.....2 dirty rotten filthy muzzies run over a British soldier then behead him in the middle of the street while onlookers gasp....breathless.....clueless.....weapon less. Thank your progressive British govt. for rendering you helpless to the murderous muzzie monsters who are now over running every ignorantly tolerant country in the West.

Posted by: John Q. Public at May 22, 2013 04:23 PM (RZvso)

157 "(islam)-a religion that violates the human rights of half the people on the planet and that doubles as a political ideology that is indistinguishable from nazism" - pat condell

Posted by: sound awake at May 22, 2013 04:30 PM (ZjfK8)

158 Islam is a kinda like a star trek cloaking device that protects you from being detected while you kill infidels and cut their heads off with rusty revolvers.

Posted by: yadda yadda at May 22, 2013 04:39 PM (aJ9QE)

159 How does that last update make any sense? Rob a drug dealer in order to.......leave money and drugs behind? Lord, how far will the MSM go to deny radical Islam? They're just happy go lucky robbers that forget what they came to rob.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at May 22, 2013 06:51 PM (7v8o1)

160 At the time that story first broke about Tsarnaev's connection with that triple homicide, I did a quick google search on each of their names, and found evidence that each one of them was Jewish. Killed on 9-11, no less.

Posted by: Stormy at May 22, 2013 08:17 PM (RZssu)

161 What are ya gonna need a fuckin' rope fer huh? - Connor MacManus

Posted by: Red State Ricky at May 22, 2013 10:08 PM (tUOX5)

162

Pam Geller at Atlas Shrugged is about a month ahead of you on Tsarnaev killing the three Jewish men.

Posted by: phaedruscj at May 23, 2013 07:50 AM (1nrHu)

163 Regarding the events in Stockholm, the WP has this quote from a councilor representing the neighborhood where the rioting started (H/T: www.humanevents.com)

Â“This is a wake-up call for decision makers and Swedish society as a whole,Â” says Awad Hersi, a Stockholm city councillor from near where the riots started. But Hersi, of Somali origin, argues that the situation is not yet as serious as it was in London in 2011 or Paris in 2005. Â“There are differences with Stockholm: the scale, the methods are different. Stockholm still has a chance but it is a matter of time.Â”

Does that not sound like an open threat? People of Sweden, does that sound like the words of a fellow Swede? Seriously you guys.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 23, 2013 08:16 AM (9eDbm)

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