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January 31, 2013

Ted Cruz Plays Slap the Dummy
— Ace

Ted Cruz may have sunk Hagel.

The Israel question won't hurt Hagel too much -- it's a niche question that only Jews and conservatives care about. Non-Jewish Democrats despise Israel and generally agree with Hagel's dark conspiracies about the "Jewish Lobby."

But Cruz might have made Hagel a very difficult for Democrats. Cruz played audio of Hagel agreeing with a questioner's premise that the US was "the world's bully," complimenting that sentiment as an "important observation" (or words to that effect).

Will our troops really be led by someone who calls them The World's Bully?

Little bonus on that question and response: Hagel said this on.. Al Jazeera.

Consider the politics there.

The left's counter-spin -- and they are already spinning like tops, all the "reporters" like Chuck Todd -- is that Hagel "merely accepted" the premise, he did not offer it himself. And, they say further, is someone appearing on Al Jazeera really required to dispute all premises he disagrees with?

But the same people have claimed that politicians are indeed required to dispute questioner's premises -- see, for example, the ruckus they made when Rick Santorum failed to object to the premise that Obama was a Muslim. And you of course remember all the media attacks in 2008 over McCain's/Palin's failure to silence every single dumb shout at a rally.

But now they're claiming someone can call the US (and its military, of course) "the world's bully" on Al Jazeera and Chuck Hagel can call this an "important observation" and that's okay because We Said.

Update: Here's the Al Jazeera clip in question.

via @brianfaughan and @amandacarpenter

Posted by: Ace at 10:31 AM | Comments (148)
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Little bonus on that question and response: Hagel said this on.. Al Jazeera.

Oops.

Taken out of context? Nah, that ain't gonna fly. Misquoted? Uh uh. Blame Bush? Tough sell. Must think, must think...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 31, 2013 10:33 AM (IDSI7)

2 What an idiot.

Posted by: name at January 31, 2013 10:33 AM (Camtm)

3 Little bonus on that question and response: Hagel said this on.. Al Jazeera. But now that they own Al Gore's Network-- What difference does it make111!!?

Posted by: Hillary!! at January 31, 2013 10:34 AM (r2PLg)

4 Oh wow, a waffly (R) got b****ed slapped. Yawn. Wake me up when someone goes medieval on a (D), 'kay?

Posted by: Jess1 at January 31, 2013 10:34 AM (lbiWb)

5 Link?

Posted by: Catmman at January 31, 2013 10:34 AM (C8XlI)

6 I'm thinkin more and more that Ted Cruz is the shizzle...

Posted by: Anabolic State at January 31, 2013 10:35 AM (PPfwk)

7 Just the fact that he's appeared on Al Jazeera should disqualify him.

Posted by: name at January 31, 2013 10:35 AM (Camtm)

8 Which is O'barky picked Hagel in the first place. They see eye on a lot of things.

Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2013 10:35 AM (UdhwR)

9 Is ChuckHagel Latin for "fig leaf"?

Posted by: Beorn at January 31, 2013 10:35 AM (dGF4J)

10 I'll bet quite a few Senators are calling the White House and begging them to pull the nomination. They do NOT want to vote on this.

Me? I do. I know Hagel's got the nominal R, but the Democrats are a crazy quilt of constituencies and their pro-Israel pro-American minority needs to hear more from the rest of the party.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 31, 2013 10:35 AM (xSegX)

11 Don't most dems believe the same thing?

Posted by: real joe at January 31, 2013 10:35 AM (un/bd)

12 Great takedown of a fool? Yup.
Sunk his nomination? I doubt it. This was why he was nominated.

Posted by: Aruges at January 31, 2013 10:35 AM (MDchW)

13 The fact that this person (and unfortunately so many others) can get into a place of power over us is a very good argument for limited, localized govt.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 31, 2013 10:35 AM (Sptt8)

14 So long Israel, was fun while it lasted.

Maybe in another 2000 years.....

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright Damns the Imoral shitfuckstained in the tank media at January 31, 2013 10:36 AM (+OTLF)

15 13
The fact that this person (and unfortunately so many others) can get into a place of power over us is a very good argument for limited, localized govt.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 31, 2013 02:35 PM (Sptt

Its an even better argument for using the guillotine when removing politicians from power.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright Damns the Imoral shitfuckstained in the tank media at January 31, 2013 10:37 AM (+OTLF)

16 13
The fact that this person (and unfortunately so many others) can get into a place of power over us is a very good argument for limited, localized govt.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 31, 2013 02:35 PM (Sptt

Its an even better argument for using the guillotine when removing politicians from power.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright Damns the Imoral shitfuckstained in the tank media at January 31, 2013 10:37 AM (+OTLF)

17 Why would Obama hire an America-bashing Jew hater for SecDef? Because he can't appoint himself.

Posted by: zsasz at January 31, 2013 10:37 AM (MMC8r)

18 It would be funny if Hagel didn't come back. JEF won't pull the nom, how dare we question his judgement. Ted Cruz now will be attacked by the press and the JEF. I hope we are ready

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 10:37 AM (Dnbau)

19 Why would Obama hire an America-bashing Jew hater for SecDef? Because he can't appoint himself.

Posted by: zsasz at January 31, 2013 10:37 AM (MMC8r)

20 It would be funny if Hagel didn't come back. JEF won't pull the nom, how dare we question his judgement. Ted Cruz now will be attacked by the press and the JEF. I hope we are ready

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 10:37 AM (Dnbau)

21 Ace's question is built on a faulty premise-- that the Democrat's have this thing called--shame.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 10:37 AM (r2PLg)

22 Ace's question is built on a faulty premise-- that the Democrat's have this thing called--shame.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 10:37 AM (r2PLg)

23

Wow, stick a fork in Hagel. He's done.

Posted by: imp at January 31, 2013 10:37 AM (UaxA0)

24

Wow, stick a fork in Hagel. He's done.

Posted by: imp at January 31, 2013 10:37 AM (UaxA0)

Little bonus on that question and response: Hagel said this on.. Al Jazeera.

---

It'll look patriotic once we're done with it.

Degree of difficultly 9.7

Posted by: MSNBC at January 31, 2013 10:38 AM (SO2Q8)

26 A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZPECFQ4NhE

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2013 10:38 AM (XvHmy)

Little bonus on that question and response: Hagel said this on.. Al Jazeera.

---

It'll look patriotic once we're done with it.

Degree of difficultly 9.7

Posted by: MSNBC at January 31, 2013 10:38 AM (SO2Q8)

28 A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZPECFQ4NhE

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2013 10:38 AM (XvHmy)

29 Will our troops really be led by someone who calls them The World's Bully? Will? Does that mean is?

Posted by: The current CiC at January 31, 2013 10:38 AM (SSWdi)

30 This is the dumbest nomination...in every sense...ever.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 31, 2013 10:38 AM (EDjKF)

31 Will our troops really be led by someone who calls them The World's Bully? Will? Does that mean is?

Posted by: The current CiC at January 31, 2013 10:38 AM (SSWdi)

32 This is the dumbest nomination...in every sense...ever.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 31, 2013 10:38 AM (EDjKF)

33 Barky probably considers that a resume' enhancer.

Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2013 10:38 AM (RD7QR)

34 Barky probably considers that a resume' enhancer.

Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2013 10:38 AM (RD7QR)

So long Israel, was fun while it lasted.

Maybe in another 2000 years.....

Honestly? At this point, I think Israel could more legitimately say that to US.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 31, 2013 10:39 AM (4df7R)

So long Israel, was fun while it lasted.

Maybe in another 2000 years.....

Honestly? At this point, I think Israel could more legitimately say that to US.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 31, 2013 10:39 AM (4df7R)

37 22 This is the dumbest nomination...in every sense...ever.
--- WORD

Posted by: Harriet Miers at January 31, 2013 10:39 AM (SO2Q8)

38 22 This is the dumbest nomination...in every sense...ever.
--- WORD

Posted by: Harriet Miers at January 31, 2013 10:39 AM (SO2Q8)

39 If all 12 pubs held together and vote no, and IF they manage to get 3 of the 14 Dems, isn't Hagel done?

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 10:39 AM (Dnbau)

40 If all 12 pubs held together and vote no, and IF they manage to get 3 of the 14 Dems, isn't Hagel done?

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 10:39 AM (Dnbau)

41 Is the nominee smarter than a fifth grader?

Posted by: Jeff Foxworthy at January 31, 2013 10:40 AM (MMC8r)

42 22 This is the dumbest nomination...in every sense...ever.
--- Without a doubt

Posted by: David Souter at January 31, 2013 10:40 AM (SO2Q8)

43 he isn't smarter than my dog

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 10:40 AM (Dnbau)

44 I will be drafting a letter to Senator Cruz, asking him to resign from his Texas seat and move to New Jersey, where hopefully we will be filling an open seat or two in the very near future.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2013 10:40 AM (GsoHv)

45 That probably just solidified turban durbin's yes vote

Posted by: cicero skip at January 31, 2013 10:40 AM (3m9Uc)

46 27 If all 12 pubs held together and vote no, and IF they manage to get 3 of the 14 Dems, isn't Hagel done? Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 02:39 PM (Dnbau) _____________ I don't see which three they would get.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 10:41 AM (r2PLg)

47

The Left is not fond of Hagel. They hate him. His appointment is being backed by establishment libs and the media, but he's going to get reamed by both the Republican shadow media and by the subversive leftists like Stewart.

It's won't end well.

Give him a few days to let the attention die down, and after a number of denials about a replacement and showy overt public support from Obama, Hagel will withdraw.

Posted by: imp at January 31, 2013 10:41 AM (UaxA0)

48 "Slap the Dummy?" My mind went straight to masterbation.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 31, 2013 10:42 AM (l86i3)

49 Hating America is the mainstream Democrat position.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at January 31, 2013 10:42 AM (nZvGM)

50 The Tel Aviv Holiday Inn has a VERY Jewish lobby.

Posted by: zsasz at January 31, 2013 10:43 AM (MMC8r)

51 And yet there's still a decent chance that he'll be confirmed.

Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2013 10:43 AM (RD7QR)

52 Wow. Maybe he can get back to being brutalized by Grahamnesty?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at January 31, 2013 10:43 AM (1hM1d)

53 Actually, this just fits in with the Muslim outreach objective, doesn't it? It's like hitting the ground running, or something.

Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at January 31, 2013 10:43 AM (Sptt8)

54 Jeez. Its just a pic of him in a Gestapo uniform..... if you know the context it all makes sense. Trust me.

Posted by: Bigby's Palm Pilot at January 31, 2013 10:43 AM (3ZtZW)

55 he is gonna get beat up but I am not convinced that all 12 pubs will hold together, let alone grab 3 dems. I am loving the show, but I don't know if its possible

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 10:44 AM (Dnbau)

56 If this dim bulb is confirmed, I give up.

Yeah, call the U. S. military "bullies." POS. Talk about totally killing what morale is left.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2013 10:44 AM (UOM48)

57 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: President Ketchum at January 31, 2013 10:44 AM (/eBe8)

I'm feeling very uncomfortable about this whole thing. It's been too easy to club this guy over the head, even though he deserves every bit of it.

Whichever way this goes, the MFM/WH propaganda machine have already planned this out.

Posted by: Soona at January 31, 2013 10:44 AM (gnJaC)

59 John Eff Kerry, who called the troops stupid, is now Sec. of State.
Hagel call the troops and U.S. military "bullies."
Would anyone expect differently from preezy's nominations?

Posted by: Deli LLama at January 31, 2013 10:44 AM (lGu1O)

7 Just the fact that he's appeared on Al Jazeera should disqualify him.

I gave my first foreign policy address on Al Jazeera.

So, Hagel is my kind of guy!

Posted by: Barqy Al Clusterfuq at January 31, 2013 10:45 AM (BZMZX)

61 Hagel's Cruz-in' for a bruisin'.

Posted by: zsasz at January 31, 2013 10:45 AM (MMC8r)

62 The ruckus they made when Rick Santorum failed to object to the premise that Obama was a Muslim. And you of course remember all the media attacks in 2008 over McCain's/Palin's failure to silence every single dumb shout at a rally. Whether that was true or not it should have been screamed from the rooftops and commented on incessantly. It's time to frame them up like they do our candidates.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 31, 2013 10:45 AM (l86i3)

63

Will our troops really be led by someone who calls them The World's Bully?

Will? Does that mean is?

Posted by: The current CiC at January 31, 2013 02:38 PM (SSWdi)

I don't see a problem either.

Posted by: The new Secretary of State at January 31, 2013 10:45 AM (mETGQ)

64 47 again, his version of "reaching out." the new Eisenhower!!!!! --- With this president, I'd call it "reaching around the aisle".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 31, 2013 10:45 AM (e0xKF)

65 I am ready to start a Senator Cruz for president 2016 campaign. I wish all senators were his clones.
And I also wish Lindsay Graham was always like this.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky poised in fluid situation at January 31, 2013 10:45 AM (baL2B)

66 Â“Anti-Semite MJ Rosenberg tweets Â‘talked about Israel with Hagel, happily heÂ’s lying todayÂ’Â”- http://bit.ly/VqpTVj

Posted by: 80sBaby at January 31, 2013 10:45 AM (YjDyJ)

67 That money I sent Ted Cruz early last year? Can't really say I'm regretting it.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at January 31, 2013 10:46 AM (ZMzpb)

68 when does the committee vote?

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 31, 2013 10:46 AM (8sCoq)

69 So long Israel, was fun while it lasted.Maybe in another 2000 years.....

Honestly? At this point, I think Israel could more legitimately say that to US.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at January 31, 2013 02:39 PM (4df7R)

--- Don't worry about Israel. all of the rest of the ME assholes better be really worried

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 31, 2013 10:46 AM (R8hU8)

70 Is that 'bully' in a manner reminiscent of Jenjhis Kahn?

Posted by: zsasz at January 31, 2013 10:46 AM (MMC8r)

71 But Cruz might have made Hagel a very difficult for Democrats. Cruz played audio of Hagel agreeing with a questioner's premise that the US was "the world's bully," complimenting that sentiment as an "important observation" (or words to that effect).

Now we know why Barry likes him.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 31, 2013 10:46 AM (1Jaio)

72 Personally, I like the guy. I give him 5 hoof-strikes of approval.

Posted by: John F'n Kerry, seared into your memory as Sec of State at January 31, 2013 10:47 AM (Fdm2J)

73 56 when does the committee vote? Posted by: Jones in CO at January 31, 2013 02:46 PM (8sCoq) _________________ Next week, according to C-Span.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 10:47 AM (r2PLg)

74 Next week, according to C-Span. Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2013 02:47 PM (r2PLg) Lots of time to forgive and forget.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 31, 2013 10:47 AM (l86i3)

75 60 Personally, I like the guy. I give him 5 hoof-strikes of approval. --- I vote nay!

Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at January 31, 2013 10:47 AM (e0xKF)

76 Non-Jewish Democrats despise Israel and generally agree with Hagel's dark conspiracies about the "Jewish Lobby." Same goes for Jewish Democrats.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 31, 2013 10:47 AM (GFM2b)

77 I got wood!

Posted by: Truman North, overstimulated at January 31, 2013 10:47 AM (I2LwF)

78 " Non-Jewish Democrats despise Israel" So full of crap. Generalize much?

Posted by: Jordan at January 31, 2013 10:48 AM (Hz1zc)

>>>"Slap the Dummy?" My mind went straight to masterbation.

To be fair, it does that anyway.

Posted by: Bigby's Palm Pilot at January 31, 2013 10:48 AM (3ZtZW)

They are going to do a 'tentative Vote' when they come back from recess.

Whatever the hell that is..

Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2013 10:48 AM (BZMZX)

81 Obama. Kerry. Hagel.

That wheezing you hear is the early stage of America's death rattle.

Posted by: Fritz at January 31, 2013 10:49 AM (/ZZCn)

82 Does anyone know if Hagel was offered the chance at OCS while an NCO and if there is a record?
If he was, it isn't definitive proof of competence, but if he wasn't, that would be pretty damning on the military record for a potential SoD.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 31, 2013 10:49 AM (aZ6ew)

83 I vote nay!

Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at January 31, 2013 02:47 PM (e0xKF)

-----

..... ahem

Posted by: John Elway at January 31, 2013 10:49 AM (nELVU)

If he is confirmed after engaging in such a sputtering clusterfuck of a confirmation hearing, then the Senate officially loses whatever credibility it might have once had (you know,b ack when it actually used to pass budgets and shit). Your average LIV doesn't know SecDef from shinola and doesn't care. The only ones watching this right now are engaged individuals on BOTH sides, left and right.

The left hates Hagel, the right hates Hagel, and he's done NOTHING to disprove any of the arguments against him. If anything he's managed to reinforce every negative comment ever made about him. And he's done it in spectacular, mind-numbing fashion on live television. If the idiots in the Senate then choose to CONFIRM him, after his public display of incompetence, all the engaged people - left and right -- who have been watching him babble like a concussed turd will give their representatives merry hell from now until the next millenium.

Politicians are stupid, but even stupid people don't like having granola-eating hippies picketing outside their offices and calling them war criminals for five years because they confirmed an idiot like Hagel.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit [/i][/u][/b] at January 31, 2013 10:49 AM (4df7R)

85 Okay, I'll admit, I was a little (okay: a lot) dubious about sending a never-before-held-elective-office lawyer to replace Kay Bailey.

So far, he's doing much better than I'd feared.

Posted by: President Ketchum at January 31, 2013 10:49 AM (/eBe8)

86 http://www.scribd.com/doc/122880292/Navy-Sequestration-Guidelines

Sean and Jean, is this close to what you are seeing in the briefings on the cutbacks?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 10:49 AM (S7Hzw)

87 The only thing that matters is what the media wants.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 31, 2013 10:49 AM (C8mVl)

Gee, I remember when Chris Tingles asked Michele Bachmann about investigating congress with regard to their anti-American views, and the fit hit the shan.

Sauce for the goose...

Posted by: Amalgamated Cliff Divers, Local 157 at January 31, 2013 10:49 AM (Ph479)

89 lets not give the administration too much credit. They may not have gamed out what to do if Hagel goes down in flames.

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 10:50 AM (Dnbau)

90 68 They are going to do a 'tentative Vote' when they come back from recess. Whatever the hell that is.. --- I think it means a straw poll amongst Democrats on the committee. If they don't want to put their reputation on the line for this idiot, they'll declare a TKO and quietly urge Obama to pick someone else.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 31, 2013 10:50 AM (e0xKF)

91 well if the Donks have a majority on the committee and a majority in the full Senate, then meet your new SecDef

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 31, 2013 10:50 AM (8sCoq)

92 If this is a setup, it's time to speculate about who the real candidate will be.
I can't believe we're not doing that yet. Isn't there a hack list we can check?

Posted by: comatus at January 31, 2013 10:50 AM (qaVK+)

93 Ted Cruz is just warming up.

I can't help but wonder if the President didn't think this would be a slam dunk because CH, while a dirty RINO, he is still an R and - something something - Republicans will HAVE to confirm him - right?

Posted by: TFG at January 31, 2013 10:51 AM (Walj9)

94 I vote nay! Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at January 31, 2013 02:47 PM (e0xKF)-- Shouldn't that be neigh? (with a sliding whinny at the end)

Posted by: rickb223 at January 31, 2013 10:51 AM (GFM2b)

95 The Republicans are HECKLING the nominee!!!

Posted by: MSNBS at January 31, 2013 10:52 AM (MMC8r)

This is the one time I'm glad we don't have a training program for republican politicians that teaches them how not to say something stupid.

Posted by: jwest at January 31, 2013 10:52 AM (ZDsRL)

Idiot in charge as the Secretary of State w/t John Kerry? Check

Similar idiots scattered throughout this administration? Check

Chuck Hagel's nomination fits in like a condom on a banana used in sex education classes? Check

What's next? Bob Menedez being nominated for something?

Personally, I hope the Hagel nomination gets shot down and that Menendez dies screaming in a fire, short of that perhaps a nice 25 year stint in a federally supervised prison, but thats just me.

Posted by: Gmac - Waiting for the revolution at January 31, 2013 10:52 AM (IanLz)

98 Posted by: Jordan at January 31, 2013 02:48 PM (Hz1zc)

Oh look the resident asshat contratian liberal unemployed troll who claims to be a libertarian progressive who just wants us all to get along is back.

You should slap your mother for not swallowing.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright Damns the Imoral shitfuckstained in the tank media at January 31, 2013 10:52 AM (+OTLF)

99 Judge Napolitano ‏@Judgenap

.@GeraldoRivera Looking To Run For Senate As Republican In New Jersey

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 31, 2013 10:52 AM (8sCoq)

100 well if the Donks have a majority on the committee and a majority in the full Senate, then meet your new SecDef Posted by: Jones in CO at January 31, 2013 02:50 PM (8sCoq) Now we will see if ANY dem has a pair or has any guts or independence. My guess, unfortunetaly, is NO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2013 10:52 AM (9Bj8R)

101
#17 Why would Obama hire an America-bashing Jew hater for SecDef?

Because he can't appoint himself.

Posted by: zsasz at January 31, 2013 02:37 PM (MMC8r)

You just know that teh SCOAMF thinks he would make a better SecDef than anybody else anyway. He wants a "yes man".

Posted by: Marmo at January 31, 2013 10:53 AM (QW+AD)

102 And he's dumb, let's not forget that.

Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at January 31, 2013 10:54 AM (evdj2)

103 Hume is right, the guy is not bright.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at January 31, 2013 10:54 AM (wR+pz)

104 If this is the shit hagel say sin public, don't ya just wonder what he says in private?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2013 10:54 AM (9Bj8R)

105 If this ass is confirmed, re-enlistments will plummet.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2013 10:54 AM (UOM48)

106 well if the Donks have a majority on the committee and a majority in the full Senate, then meet your new SecDef

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 31, 2013 02:50 PM (8sCoq)

----------------------------------------------------

As I said, if Dear Leader wants this guy, the dems will vote for him. Senators fear tyrants too.

Posted by: Soona at January 31, 2013 10:54 AM (gnJaC)

107 Miss Lindsey's a co-dependent quisling, but he occasionally goes back to his JAG roots.

Posted by: zsasz at January 31, 2013 10:54 AM (MMC8r)

108 some of those southern dems may have pause about votin for this maroon

Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2013 10:55 AM (Dnbau)

109

66 - No, I fully agree that "non-Jewish Democrats hate Israel" but there's no need to bring me into it.

Posted by: General Izemutch at January 31, 2013 10:55 AM (3ZtZW)

110 .@GeraldoRivera Looking To Run For Senate As Republican In New Jersey

Posted by: Jones in CO at January 31, 2013 02:52 PM (8sCoq)

Finally, a candidate I can support!

Posted by: Chris Christie at January 31, 2013 10:55 AM (nZvGM)

111 If this ass is confirmed, re-enlistments will plummet. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2013 02:54 PM (UOM4

Maybe, probably not. People are in the Military for a whole host of reasons- retirement, a job, healthcare. Now many will probably be FORCED out for sure.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2013 10:56 AM (9Bj8R)

112 98 some of those southern dems may have pause about votin for this maroon --- My guess is that the ones who will be fence-sitting are Pryor (AR), Landrieu (LA), Johnson (SD), Baucus (MT), and several other red-state Dims up this cycle.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 31, 2013 10:56 AM (e0xKF)

113 My guess is that the ones who will be fence-sitting are Pryor (AR), Landrieu (LA), Johnson (SD), Baucus (MT), and several other red-state Dims up this cycle. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 31, 2013 02:56 PM (e0xKF Is there a demo on the committee with any integrity?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2013 10:57 AM (9Bj8R)

114 That idiot Landrieu claims we don't have a spending problem. It's just made up by Fox News.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2013 10:57 AM (UOM48)

115 re: "Give him a few days...Hagel will withdraw"

Because Jews.

Will be the story--not officially, but it'll be what's believed, and Hagel will be added to the list of Good People The Joos Have Destroyed In Their Quest To...Whatever.

And Bang Blondes.

Curiously, the paleocon "neocon"-haters I keep up with seem to be staying away from commentary on the hearing. Today's scene should be pissing them off. Hagel's getting yacked for saying dumb-guy versions of some of the stuff they sometimes say. But so far, nothing.

Left-sympathetic "libertarians" are all in on the "neocon war-boner" talk today, but the right-symps aren't. It's like they see there's some bamboozlin' going on, and they're leaning back and squinting at it.

Posted by: oblig. at January 31, 2013 10:57 AM (cePv8)

116 .@GeraldoRivera Looking To Run For Senate As Republican In New Jersey What, Sally Jesse busy?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 31, 2013 10:57 AM (l86i3)

117 New thread

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2013 10:57 AM (S7Hzw)

118 Cruz for Senate minority leader/majority leader after '14
/a boy can dream

Posted by: willy at January 31, 2013 10:58 AM (kUCQ4)

119 104 That idiot Landrieu claims we don't have a spending problem. It's just made up by Fox News. --- She's still pissed that James O'Keefe et all were after her over the "Louisiana Purchase".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 31, 2013 10:58 AM (e0xKF)

120 83 Shouldn't that be neigh? (with a sliding whinny at the end) That's the joke.

Posted by: Rainier Wolfcastle at January 31, 2013 10:59 AM (9TK8E)

121 Anyone listening to the Joooo bashers calling C-Span? Nauseating.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2013 10:59 AM (UOM48)

122 If this ass is confirmed, re-enlistments will plummet.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2013 02:54 PM (UOM4

--------------------------------------------

Enlistments will definitely go down for American warriors like your son. What I'm afraid of are the people who will volunteer under the present leadership. With the culling of the warriors in the higher ranks, I'm beginning to wonder if this is the start of the buildup of Baraka's Homeland Security Force.

Posted by: Soona at January 31, 2013 11:00 AM (gnJaC)

123 Another school shooting.

Posted by: Soona at January 31, 2013 11:01 AM (gnJaC)

124 Non-Jewish Democrats despise Israel"

So full of crap. Generalize much?

Posted by: Jordan at January 31, 2013 02:48 PM (Hz1zc)

Those anti Israel protests manned mostly by non jewish democrat voters would appear to further confirm what a dope you are.

Posted by: polynikes at January 31, 2013 11:02 AM (m2CN7)

125 In all fairness, the premise was not "America is a bully" but instead "the world thinks America is a bully." I'm don't necessarily agree with this premise either but there's a huge difference between the two.

Posted by: Saddam at January 31, 2013 11:04 AM (phUqH)

126 so hagel went on al jazeera on tax payers money as a spokeperson for american interests and as a paid senator and ridiculed america as a bully , also advocating for softening stance on a nuclear arming Iran?

has he mentioned if america should be allowed borders ?

you know some things are just crazytown.

Posted by: ette at January 31, 2013 11:05 AM (nqBYe)

127 Yo Adrian ,, look who is commander in chief!!!!

Posted by: Clemenza at January 31, 2013 11:06 AM (3GuQx)

128 Anyone listening to the Joooo bashers calling C-Span? Nauseating.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2013 02:59 PM (UOM4

it's seems to have become acceptable again.

Posted by: ette at January 31, 2013 11:08 AM (nqBYe)

129 Dems will vote for other Dems no matter what the circumstances. Dems backed Blago in this wonderful state of illinois even knowing he was being investigated. Repubs will turn on other Repubs-George Ryan stepped down because he was corrupt and lost the support of R's.

Posted by: ejo at January 31, 2013 11:18 AM (GXvSO)

130

Valerie Jarrett must be so pissed at Ted.

Posted by: wth at January 31, 2013 11:19 AM (wAQA5)

131 So thankful for having the sharp minds of Rand Paul and Ted Cruz in the senate.

Posted by: exceller at January 31, 2013 11:24 AM (ROGMG)

132 See what happens when you try to be a Maverick like McCain and Graham on the issues they care about? I despise all three of them equally but for different reasons.

McCain for his media whoring 'Maverick' personae and being pro-amnesty Senator from a border state. All that Mavericky selling out to the MSM for all those years and what did it net him?
Graham for offering amnesty to criminals which he's okay with because he's from the border state of South Carolina.
And Hagel because he's apparently just too stupid to get with the program.

Posted by: CozMark at January 31, 2013 11:26 AM (WAHqd)

133 They're having a party and guess who gets to be the pinata?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - there on Thunder Island! at January 31, 2013 11:27 AM (hLRSq)

134 Ace once again showing his ignorance or just outright lying to the morons. The REASONS the Republican attacks on Hagel today are so savage sounding today are: 1. Hagel going to work for Obama is like betrayal of Omerta or something, just like it was for Huntsman, and just like it woulda been for Jed, and this is how that message gets conveyed, 2. before today it became clear that no D was going to put up any more than the most nominal formulaic Potemkin attack on Hagel, which means Obama got to them that he really really needs this because it's close close close, 3. we need to do WTF we can to get back foreign policy cred from the Kenyan Muslim, and 4. cuz we all been gittin' our butts kicked now for 3 months and the blood lust is up.

Posted by: rex the wonder god at January 31, 2013 11:27 AM (21TJo)

135 This is just step two in the nomination process. Next up: PROFIT!!

Posted by: somejoe at January 31, 2013 11:28 AM (SSWdi)

136

When Hagel's done they should nominate Sen. Durbin for Asst. SecDef.

Then all would be complete in the unity of policy.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - there on Thunder Island! at January 31, 2013 11:29 AM (hLRSq)

137

When Dems start dreaming about a purple Texas, remind them that Ted Cruz was just elected.

Posted by: SH at January 31, 2013 11:32 AM (gmeXX)

138 If Hagel isn't confirmed maybe he can become an analyst for Al(Gore) Jazeera or MSNBC.

Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at January 31, 2013 11:41 AM (erlzv)

139 No, Cruz didn't sink him. Unless Hagel skins a live hobo on the witness table, all 55 Dems will vote for him. That was a sure thing once Schumer bought in.

Posted by: RonW at January 31, 2013 11:43 AM (HRJmX)

140 Barny the frank eater would be a good SecDef

Posted by: Iluv jumbo black nuts at January 31, 2013 11:45 AM (zCojJ)

141 ITS A TRAP!

Would the WH want exactly this to happen? Hagel (A Repub in name only) gets the crap kicked out of him by fellow R's. His nomination gets ash canned and TFG puts up someone farther to the left of Hagel with the WH tossing up their hands saying that this is further proof that they can't work with R's.

Posted by: Tony253 at January 31, 2013 11:53 AM (PryWG)

142 Not sure yet. Look for the spin this Sunday on the talking heads shows. If they talk about how horrible Hagel's performance was then watch out. If the WH decides to circle the wagons by sending protectors to spin the meeting then Hagel will probably squeak by if no other complications.

If Hagel's nomination is going to be defeated by Dems, the most likely place is the committee (less press coverage). Republicans can't really defeat Hagel on the floor but are laying out markers on unpopular national security policies that Hagel supports (and probably Obama as well). For example, no sanctions on Iran, anti-Israeli talk, and now how the U.S. is a bully etc. are not really popular positions in the U.S.

Each of these generally unpopular stances can reduce the electability of Dem. senators in specific situations either by pissing off campaign donors and/or voters. So you would need to analyze specific Dem. senators on the committee to determine the effects.

Posted by: wg at January 31, 2013 11:58 AM (uVc0d)

143 Ted Cruz is what conservatives WISHED Rubio was going to be like as a Senator. Rubio's schtick was easy when he was up against Charlie Crist.

Too bad Cruz was born in Canada.

Posted by: McAdams at January 31, 2013 12:01 PM (EU2BU)

144 Buzzfeed leaps to Hagel's defense by claiming the clip Cruz showed is 'out of context' and in no way does it show what Cruz claims it does: http://tinyurl.com/a5uvh2c

Posted by: drawandstrike at January 31, 2013 12:03 PM (uVLJc)

145

From what I've read, Cruz is a U.S. citizen by birth, having been born in Calgary to an American-born mother. Because his mother had U.S. citizenship at the time of his birth, it transferred to him on foreign soil.

Posted by: TxAnn56 at January 31, 2013 12:20 PM (Y/hkJ)

146 But Hagel would now make a perfect book-end for Kerry and his Jingis Khan remarks.

Posted by: sexypig at January 31, 2013 12:20 PM (dZQh7)

147 Chuck Hagel makes Linc Chaffee look smart and likable

Posted by: phreshone at January 31, 2013 12:20 PM (0SXI6)

148 I doubt it will be enough to sink him in that den of scum and villainy.

Posted by: Socratease at January 31, 2013 12:28 PM (3V4IJ)

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