December 01, 2013

Tension mounts in the Ukraine
— Purple Avenger

Oh BTW, there seems to be a revolution going on in the Ukraine. [live updated post at Russia today]

Seems to have something to do with the govt abandoning a EU integration.

Former interior minister declares "revolution".

..."Our plan is clear: It's not a demonstration, it's not a reaction. It's a revolution," said Yuriy Lutsenko, a former interior minister who is now an opposition leader...

More here at RT.

Open revolution thread. Bring your own Vaseline and otters though.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 03:45 PM | Comments (381)
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1 Well, is this the first thing to be said on this matter?

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at December 01, 2013 03:47 PM (v6hyJ)

2 Ukranian's, doing the job Americans won't.

Posted by: tbodie at December 01, 2013 03:49 PM (WgBz9)

3 But will they still ship my woman to me?

Posted by: Mail-ordered a bride at December 01, 2013 03:50 PM (6fSty)

4 Boy, things are really going well in the international arena for the Barky Administration.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 03:51 PM (GEICT)

5 You linked Russia Today! You linked Russia Today! Puke! Puke! Puke!

Posted by: The Commenting Software at December 01, 2013 03:52 PM (kkbgQ)

6 3 But will they still ship my woman to me?

Posted by: Mail-ordered a bride at December 01, 2013 07:50 PM (6fSty)

 

Did you buy the gauranteed shipping option?

Posted by: tbodie at December 01, 2013 03:52 PM (WgBz9)

7 A link to the Radio Free Europe live coverage is linked in my sock. A new Orange Revolution at work. And I hope the Russian blackmail over natural gas has been ameliorated in the past few years since the Russians last (successfully) tried it.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 01, 2013 03:52 PM (4NEdy)

8 The Vaseline I get . The otter , not so much .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 01, 2013 03:52 PM (XWw96)

9 Send in Kerry.

Posted by: noone, really at December 01, 2013 03:52 PM (5ikDv)

10 Free Healthcare will pacify them.

Posted by: --- at December 01, 2013 03:52 PM (MMC8r)

11 Wait....they WANT to be part of the EU?!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 01, 2013 03:53 PM (bCEmE)

12 Job #1 of the new revolutionary government: declaring a fatwa against all those who persist in calling Ukraine "the Ukraine" as if it were merely some region of Greater Russia.


Yeah I know old habits die hard.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2013 03:53 PM (8Fl6F)

13 The White album wasn't just music ya know

Posted by: john george paul and ringo at December 01, 2013 03:53 PM (s3AS9)

14 RESET!! RESET!!!!

Posted by: Hillary!!! at December 01, 2013 03:53 PM (MMC8r)

15 Better, alot better, the EU than Russia, Tami.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 01, 2013 03:54 PM (4NEdy)

16 If you like your gulag, you can keep your gulag.

Posted by: Doomsday at December 01, 2013 03:54 PM (5OoFN)

17 Putin is running the Ukraine and many Ukrainians don't like it.Go figure.

Posted by: steevy at December 01, 2013 03:54 PM (zqvg6)

18 15 Better, alot better, the EU than Russia, Tami. Posted by: andycanuck at December 01, 2013 07:54 PM (4NEdy) Hmmm....

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at December 01, 2013 03:55 PM (bCEmE)

19 Likely they'd like EU association to protect them from Russian strong-arming.

Posted by: --- at December 01, 2013 03:55 PM (MMC8r)

20 Otter ain't nothing but a fancy Weasel.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2013 03:55 PM (ND2uH)

21 Every Ukrainian government finds itself stuck between what their population wants and what Putin wants.

Not fun.

I hope this works out all right, this time. Vlad's not feeling especially worried about Obama's reactions, so far as I can tell.

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 03:56 PM (mKMj1)

22 Hmmm. How do you handle a few million troublesome Ukranians?

Posted by: --- at December 01, 2013 03:56 PM (MMC8r)

23 15 Better, alot better, the EU than Russia, Tami.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 01, 2013 07:54 PM (4NEdy)
Six of one. Seven of nine.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 01, 2013 03:56 PM (BrrWI)

24 Jeez, I'm getting worn out. Which side am I to be on in this one? Winning in Kansas City isn't easy. Elway was famous for going in there and throwing 4 interceptions. Nice work, Broncos.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2013 03:58 PM (1Y+hH)

25 Protesters were trying to tear down the Lenin monument. Why is it still there anyway?

Posted by: mama winger's iPad at December 01, 2013 03:58 PM (P6QsQ)

26 Hmmm. How do you handle a few million troublesome Ukranians?

Posted by: --- at December 01, 2013 07:56 PM (MMC8r)

Can you say "Holodomor"? I knew you could.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2013 03:58 PM (8Fl6F)

27 #23 - Not if you're Ukrainian.

8 million died (at least) between 1928 and 1932. The Ukrainians have neither forgotten, nor forgiven, that particular Russian attempt to make them forget their national aspirations.

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 03:58 PM (mKMj1)

28 >>> 12 Job #1 of the new revolutionary government: declaring a fatwa against all those who persist in calling Ukraine "the Ukraine" as if it were merely some region of Greater Russia. OK, I'll drop "The", but Myanmar can kiss my fluffy, white ass. Burma.

Posted by: fluffy at December 01, 2013 03:58 PM (Ua6T/)

29 Job #1 of the new revolutionary government: declaring a fatwa against all those who persist in calling Ukraine "the Ukraine" as if it were merely some region of Greater Russia.


Yeah I know old habits die hard.

They really, really do.

Posted by: The Levant at December 01, 2013 03:59 PM (IiAs3)

30 Why is it still there anyway?
Pigeons Rights.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 01, 2013 03:59 PM (4NEdy)

31 Lots of Ukranian protestors on my street today outside Ukraine consulate. Now it makes sense.

Posted by: Mayor Ford at December 01, 2013 04:00 PM (5Isiq)

32 Bummed the Chefs got swept by the Broncos, but maybe I'll at least manage a fantasy win.

Posted by: logprof at December 01, 2013 04:00 PM (fOFYL)

33 Clearly a false flag operation to raise oil prices

Posted by: Alex Jones at December 01, 2013 04:00 PM (Pr6hk)

34 Walk like a ukranian

Posted by: that fat girl from the go go's at December 01, 2013 04:00 PM (s3AS9)

35 Look at all these rising tensions! Someone should photoshop a pic of a desk with a business phone sitting on it, every light lit up and screaming, with Barry in the background golfing.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 01, 2013 04:01 PM (oFCZn)

36 It's pretty fricking bad when your best option is joining the EU.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2013 04:01 PM (1Y+hH)

37 I think the irony of Europe plunging into war again will be that this time, Germany will be the only sane one on the Continent. Go figure..

Posted by: Jmel at December 01, 2013 04:01 PM (cfFqn)

38 Evening fappers. Almost ready to go back to work. Almost.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 01, 2013 04:01 PM (eQJwb)

39

it will get mighty cold indoors when the Russians turn off the gas.

odd that they would want to join the Euro project given how well that is proceding.

 

evening horde!

Posted by: rich@gmu at December 01, 2013 04:01 PM (ga+7c)

40 Hey, I wrote that song

Posted by: that no name girl from the bangles at December 01, 2013 04:02 PM (s3AS9)

41

In other breaking news : my Pizza is almost done.

 

 

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2013 04:02 PM (ND2uH)

42 My son did a mission trip to Ukraine a few years ago.  Lovely people they were - generous to a fault and so eager to spend time with him.  Their little group was trying to save up money to buy a little piece of land on which to build a church.  My son and his friends were able to donate enough money to them for the purchase.  They were so grateful. 

I hope they are well through this latest upheaval.  These dear people have suffered enough at the hands of the Russians.

Posted by: mama winger at December 01, 2013 04:02 PM (P6QsQ)

43 That's right Vlad.  The American Tiger is a pussy.  Time to round up the Kulaks again while the timing is well.

Posted by: Joseph Stalin at December 01, 2013 04:02 PM (Pr6hk)

44 38 Evening fappers. Almost ready to go back to work. Almost. Posted by: DC in Towson at December 01, 2013 08:01 PM (eQJwb) Evening. I feel like I never left work. Fucking crazy busy last 4 1/2 days.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 04:03 PM (GEICT)

45 Wait....they WANT to be part of the EU It's either the EU or being part of Putin's "Near Abroad." Which is just like being one of the sovereign constituent republics of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 01, 2013 04:03 PM (XFTOV)

46 Monsanto!!!eleventy!!111!!!111!!!!11

Posted by: typical delusional statist moonbat at December 01, 2013 04:03 PM (5ikDv)

47 Ukraine, Mykraine... what difference does it make, let's cook this bird and eat it. 

Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2013 04:05 PM (BeSEI)

48 not following the issue ... still groggy from all the food.

Posted by: rich@gmu at December 01, 2013 04:05 PM (ga+7c)

49 Comments on "Russia Today!" They will feel the power of the Russian fist!! (The EU, Americuh, and all you homos trying to mess with my stuff.) Yeah, whatever. If anybody is keeping score, Romney was right about this, too.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at December 01, 2013 04:05 PM (v6hyJ)

50 Putin on the RIIIIIIIIIITZZZZZZ Ukraine!

Posted by: Frahnkenshteen's Monster at December 01, 2013 04:06 PM (Zswg6)

51 So basically whatever side Obama takes, that's the wrong side in this.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 01, 2013 04:06 PM (RZ8pf)

52 Seriously, I think Ukraine would do better to work out some sort of modus vivendi with Russia, maybe some kind of pan-Slavic federation. The EU has no spare cash to prop up Ukraine's economy, not any more, and they would damned unlikely to risk sending troops to protect Ukraine against Russian aggression.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2013 04:06 PM (8Fl6F)

53 51 So basically whatever side Obama takes, that's the wrong side in this. Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 01, 2013 08:06 PM (RZ8pf) Sad thing is, it's not even a joke.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 04:07 PM (GEICT)

54 Vaseline? Is this another pussy riot?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 01, 2013 04:07 PM (V4CBV)

55 Garry Kasparov tweeted this earlier today, sounds about right:

"You think Putin is more dangerous than Stalin or Brezhnev? What a joke. Putin gets results because no more Trumans or Reagans or Thatchers."

Posted by: BobH at December 01, 2013 04:08 PM (1CZY/)

56 Luckily, I moved my Risk armies to Kamchatka.

Posted by: Kramer vs. Kramer at December 01, 2013 04:08 PM (R6JT1)

57 Seriously, I think Ukraine would do better to work out some sort of modus vivendi with Russia, maybe some kind of pan-Slavic federation. The EU has no spare cash to prop up Ukraine's economy, not any more, and they would damned unlikely to risk sending troops to protect Ukraine against Russian aggression.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2013 08:06 PM (8Fl6F)


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I think Ukraine would like to move towards the West and away from Mother Russia, which has the tendency to kill them.

Posted by: mama winger at December 01, 2013 04:08 PM (P6QsQ)

58 I feel like I never left work. Fucking crazy busy last 4 1/2 days.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 08:03 PM (GEICT)

 

...worked through the holiday and weekend.

 

Posted by: typical delusional statist moonbat at December 01, 2013 08:03 PM (5ikDv)

 

yeah, we have min wage protests to look forward to on Thursday!

 

Posted by: rich@gmu at December 01, 2013 04:08 PM (ga+7c)

59 Hmmmm ...... I wonder how the Obama administration will foul this up for the Ukrainian people?

Posted by: gastorgrab at December 01, 2013 04:08 PM (FX38i)

60 Da, Mama Winger is counter-revolutionary outside agitator. You vill be denounced!! The tell will be how the US "Media" treats this, following the lead of the Obama Regime. Are these people just like those wonderful little OWS types, or are they evil Tea-baggers?

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at December 01, 2013 04:09 PM (v6hyJ)

61 Well at least the pro-Russians know whom to blame :


Alex Zollkin 02.12.2013 00:58

1. America has over $17 TRILLION National debt.
2. EU has $11.6 TRILLION of debt (92% of GDP)
3, EU has unemployment of 12.5%
4. EU potential for social unrest is world's highest
5. About 120 million live in poverty in the EU
6. Poor Ukraine wants to be part of this fast sinking EU-Titanic ?
7. Ukraine is being divided by the Zionists - Conquer by division.
8. Ukrainians will soon be disillusioned and fall into despair and depression.

Alex Zollkin 02.12.2013 00:54

Ukrainians desperate, brainwashed by Zionist Media, reacting emotionally, not rationally. Hard reality always catches up later. High price to pay for not thinking soberly : 1) Overloaded EU Titanic will add an extra lead block - the UA. 2) Ukrainians wonÂ’t get jobs in Europe. 3) UA will fall in line behind Greece et al. 4) UA will become another bankrupt IMF slave. 5) Under EU legislation, Ukrainian private bank accounts will be frozen, funds seized by the IMF as happened in Greece et al. 6) The new UA Government still have to face up to Russia and lose billions in a border customs blockade. A lose-lose situation.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 01, 2013 04:09 PM (Nsoq9)

62 OK, so up with the revolution. Mama winger says they're OK, good enough for me. Anybody know if they have a prayer? Won't Putin just bomb them with vodka and/or napalm?

Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2013 04:09 PM (1Y+hH)

63 So basically whatever side Obama takes, that's the wrong side in this.

Lemmesee now. What steps can I take to stir up the most strife, and further diminish America's standing amongst the nations of the world?

Posted by: Barky, pondering at December 01, 2013 04:10 PM (8Fl6F)

64 It will work out just fine, trust me.Russia is our friend

Posted by: the former president of georgia at December 01, 2013 04:10 PM (s3AS9)

65 Had to laugh. Watched a clip of Dame Thatcher being confronted by some model bimbo anti nuke protestor. She had a shirt that said 58% don't want Pershings. Thatcher told her, don't worry dear, we don't have Pershings we have Cruise missiles, and then ushered her out of the way.

Posted by: The Commenting Software at December 01, 2013 04:10 PM (kkbgQ)

66 Apart from the Judenhaß, I see Zollkin's point insofar as it applies to the EU. They're jumping ship from the Lusitania to the Titanic.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 01, 2013 04:10 PM (Nsoq9)

67 7. Ukraine is being divided by the Zionists - Conquer by division.

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In other words, Russians are going to blame the Jews.  I think I've seen this movie before.  It doesn't have a happy ending.

Posted by: mama winger at December 01, 2013 04:12 PM (P6QsQ)

68 51So basically whatever side Obama takes, that's the wrong side in this.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 01, 2013 08:06 PM (RZ8pf)

 

Yea, pretty much. 

Posted by: rich@gmu at December 01, 2013 04:12 PM (ga+7c)

69 Here comes Ukraine again Falling on my head like a memory Falling on my head like a new emotion

Posted by: Vlad Sings the Hits at December 01, 2013 04:12 PM (MMC8r)

70 Geez, this shit is happening faster than I had inticipated.  Time to replenish the store.  Been slacking.

Posted by: Infidel at December 01, 2013 04:13 PM (IEbb0)

71 Meremortal - They're fucked, in summary. The best they can hope for is a nominal independence, if Putin is as serious as I think he is.

Just...no matter what, they're fucked.

Poor Ukraine; independence was nice while it lasted.

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 04:13 PM (mKMj1)

72 I can just see Kerry in one of those Russian beta-male fur hats and his trenchcoat now. A couple of red stars will be all that is missing. grrr...

Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2013 04:14 PM (1Y+hH)

73 Ah, the Zionists again. Is there anything they can't do? And Israel wants to have some kind of Real Politik re-approachment with Russia?

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at December 01, 2013 04:14 PM (v6hyJ)

74 Mama winger, I was thinking "cue the Black Hundreds."

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 04:14 PM (mKMj1)

75 headlines Monday-
Conservatives Foment Rebellion In Ukraine To Make Obama Look Bad.



Posted by: MSM at December 01, 2013 04:15 PM (5ikDv)

76 Fuck Ukraine. Dude, you posted Tonio K!!!! Talk about a voice in the wilderness. Tonio K freakin' rocked! Love that song.

Posted by: Chef Mojo at December 01, 2013 04:15 PM (zJoRO)

77 Ukraine is weak!

Posted by: Kramer at December 01, 2013 04:15 PM (ND2uH)

78 From each according to how many otters they have to each according to how much Vaseline they have left.  

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 01, 2013 04:16 PM (Gk3SS)

79 Just...no matter what, they're fucked. Poor Ukraine; independence was nice while it lasted. Posted by: Dianna at December 01, You see, this is what I was worried about, because it sure seemed like they were fucked. And sure enough...

Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2013 04:16 PM (1Y+hH)

80 We won't see nothin'.

Posted by: The New York Duranty at December 01, 2013 04:16 PM (MMC8r)

81 I was thinking "cue the Black Hundreds."

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 08:14 PM (mKMj1)


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Yikes. 

Posted by: mama winger at December 01, 2013 04:16 PM (P6QsQ)

82 I live in a small town. Where am I going to find an otter this time of night?

Posted by: Mindy is standing on her head because the world is upside down at December 01, 2013 04:17 PM (lCBX+)

83 And Israel wants to have some kind of Real Politik re-approachment with Russia?

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at December 01, 2013 08:14 PM (v6hyJ)

 

they tried having an adult and sober relationship with us...didn't last.

Posted by: rich@gmu at December 01, 2013 04:17 PM (ga+7c)

84 78 From each according to how many otters they have to each according to how much Vaseline they have left. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 01, 2013 08:16 PM (Gk3SS) Every time I read that a little of my soul dies. And I'm not quite sure why.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 04:17 PM (GEICT)

85 Hmmm. How do you handle a few million troublesome Ukranians? Posted by: --- at December 01, 2013 07:56 PM (MMC8r) *Raises hand* I have a suggestionÂ…

Posted by: Iosef Stalin at December 01, 2013 04:17 PM (Vk2pI)

86 Who? Me? No, they just want freedom

Posted by: vlad the expander at December 01, 2013 04:17 PM (s3AS9)

87 "By the middle of the 14th century, present Ukrainian territories were under the rule of three external powers: the Golden Horde, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, and the Kingdom of Poland," Are we heirs to Ukraine?

Posted by: Moron Horde at December 01, 2013 04:19 PM (6fSty)

88 Otters are, of course, a type of weasel.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2013 04:19 PM (UAMVq)

89 Every time I read that a little of my soul dies. And I'm not quite sure why. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 08:17 PM (GEICT)


Oh pish posh, now you're being ridiculous.


Like you had any soul of your own left after participating in this vast expanse of wholesomeness, sweetness and light.



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 01, 2013 04:19 PM (Gk3SS)

90 If anybody is keeping score, Romney was right about this, too.


Hahaha!  What are you even talking about?

Posted by: Candy Crowley at December 01, 2013 04:19 PM (HsJeN)

91 I saw The Black Hundreds open for Megadeth at the Palladium in 1986. Scary fucking show that I barely got out of alive.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 01, 2013 04:20 PM (oFCZn)

92 I have a beautiful little nativity set my kid brought back from Ukraine.  I think I will go set it up, and say a prayer.

Posted by: mama winger at December 01, 2013 04:20 PM (P6QsQ)

93 I think Ukraine would like to move towards the West and away from Mother Russia, which has the tendency to kill them.

Posted by: mama winger at December 01, 2013 08:08 PM (P6QsQ)


If the West were strong, and united, and could project the economic and military power necessary to keep the Russian bear from Ukraine's door, I would agree with you. But the EU is circling the bowl, and has succumbed to rampant socialism itself, and the USA under Obama is a weak reed.



So I think the pragmatic choice for Ukraine is to make the best they can of their relationship with Russia, rather than rely on the shaky support they are likely to get from the EU or the USA.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2013 04:20 PM (8Fl6F)

94 And Weasel Zippers links in my sock link now.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 01, 2013 04:20 PM (4NEdy)

95 My friends.  You have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House.

Posted by: John McCain at December 01, 2013 04:21 PM (Pr6hk)

96 See, now I have more flexibility

Posted by: barry after the election at December 01, 2013 04:21 PM (s3AS9)

97 In the one picture, there is an official from Poland standing with Klitschko. The Poles are in the same boat, but at least have real sovereignty from Russia, instead of the faux sovereignty that Ukraine has. A world in upheaval, or peace in our time? Where's Hillary! when we really need her to ....recharge?

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at December 01, 2013 04:21 PM (v6hyJ)

98 Like you had any soul of your own left after participating in this vast expanse of wholesomeness, sweetness and light. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 01, 2013 08:19 PM (Gk3SS) Well, I was speaking metaphorically. What I really was speaking of is the feeling I would feel if I had a soul. Cause, you know, Ginger.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 04:21 PM (GEICT)

99 >>> Are we heirs to Ukraine? Are we golden?

Posted by: fluffy at December 01, 2013 04:22 PM (Ua6T/)

100 >>>Like you had any soul of your own left after participating in this vast expanse of wholesomeness, sweetness and light. He's a ginger. No soul to lose.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 01, 2013 04:22 PM (eQJwb)

101 All is well!

Posted by: The New York Duranty at December 01, 2013 04:22 PM (MMC8r)

102 And Israel wants to have some kind of Real Politik re-approachment with Russia?

Probably not anymore. Israel's all but declared itself on the side of conservative Sunnism in the region: up Saudi, down Assad and Iran. Putin placed his bets with Iran and Hizbullah.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 01, 2013 04:23 PM (Nsoq9)

103

Posted by: John McCain at December 01, 2013 08:21 PM (Pr6hk)

 

Fuck you with the flaming barbed cock of satan for eternity.

Posted by: Infidel at December 01, 2013 04:23 PM (IEbb0)

104 "I think Ukraine would like to move towards the West and away from Mother Russia, which has the tendency to kill them."

It was done out of love.

Posted by: Mother Russia at December 01, 2013 04:24 PM (kUgpq)

105 Looks like a ukranian steamer to me

Posted by: corporal klinger from toledo at December 01, 2013 04:25 PM (s3AS9)

106 My friends. You have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House. Posted by: John McCain at December 01, 2013 08:21 PM (Pr6hk) I know.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at December 01, 2013 04:26 PM (Vk2pI)

107 Well, I was speaking metaphorically. What I really was speaking of is the feeling I would feel if I had a soul. Cause, you know, Ginger. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 08:21 PM (GEICT)


Point.  

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 01, 2013 04:26 PM (Gk3SS)

108 Point. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 01, 2013 08:26 PM (Gk3SS) Question: How lib/lefty/social justice does Arrow get?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 04:28 PM (GEICT)

109 So I think the pragmatic choice for Ukraine is to make the best they can of their relationship with Russia, rather than rely on the shaky support they are likely to get from the EU or the USA.

The Russians are a far more reliable ally than the US.  With the Black Sea and Odessa, the Ukraine holds a lot of bargaining power and should be able to get a pretty good deal.  But...

...there is all that past unpleasantness that kinda colors the whole thing, and these people got long memories.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 01, 2013 04:28 PM (0OknM)

110 Crap. Now I have to ask Valerie if this is important enough for a speech.

Posted by: Barack-a-klaus at December 01, 2013 04:28 PM (1Y+hH)

111 TWD needs to bring it tonight. I want to see a newly cured Glenn stumble out into the prison yard as Maggie looks on with a hopeful expression before the Gov snipers him.

Posted by: Attica at December 01, 2013 04:29 PM (R6JT1)

112 I'm sure you will all be shocked by Obama's tribute to Rosa Parks. http://tinyurl.com/nav7jec

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 01, 2013 04:29 PM (PjgvN)

113 I'm sure you will all be shocked by Obama's tribute to Rosa Parks.

It's last year's pic too. 

Posted by: no good deed at December 01, 2013 04:31 PM (HsJeN)

114 Stop worrying you guy's, RT just said all is well.

Posted by: LIV TED EATING BORSHT at December 01, 2013 04:31 PM (s3AS9)

115 112 I'm sure you will all be shocked by Obama's tribute to Rosa Parks. http://tinyurl.com/nav7jec Posted by: WalrusRex at December 01, 2013 08:29 PM (PjgvN) F. F. S. I mean, it's epically staged. Wtf other reason would he have for being on a bus? He stepped foot on that bus for the sole purpose of staging a photograph.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 04:32 PM (GEICT)

116

I'm sure you will all be shocked by Obama's tribute to Rosa Parks.

 

 

 

Is he celebrating the Anniversary of a Staged Event with a Staged Photo, again?

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2013 04:33 PM (ND2uH)

117 Question: How lib/lefty/social justice does Arrow get? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 08:28 PM (GEICT)


*stares at you so hard*


What, you think I watch it with the sound on?


Did you fall and hit your head or somesuch?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 01, 2013 04:33 PM (Gk3SS)

118 Dammit!! Why can't I be a Zionist. They get blamed for all the cool stuff. WASP's like me, not so much.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 01, 2013 04:33 PM (15w2J)

119 The trouble with Ukraine... is that it's full of Ukrainians!

Posted by: Pooty-Poot Longshanks at December 01, 2013 04:34 PM (e4elg)

120 This happened a decade ago with the Orange Revolution. And Russia successfully crushed that. Probably will succeed in crushing this one, too. Here's hoping the Ukrainians wins this time.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 04:34 PM (ZPrif)

121 Orange is a terrible color for a revolution.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2013 04:35 PM (ND2uH)

122 What, you think I watch it with the sound on? Did you fall and hit your head or somesuch? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 01, 2013 08:33 PM (Gk3SS) The lawyer/ex-gf chick is very hot, but so very annoying.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 04:35 PM (GEICT)

123 In Soviet Ukraine, Bear arms and keeps YOU.

Posted by: Yakov at December 01, 2013 04:36 PM (MMC8r)

124 Orange is a terrible color for a revolution.
Screw you!

Posted by: zombie william of orange at December 01, 2013 04:36 PM (4NEdy)

125 "I'm sure you will all be shocked by Obama's tribute to Rosa Parks."

Usually in any circumstance involving Obama and a bus, it's about someone else going under it, rather than Obama being inside of it, but whatever.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 01, 2013 04:36 PM (gqT4g)

126 They really, really do. Posted by: The Levant Don't get me started...

Posted by: Istanbul (not Constantinople) at December 01, 2013 04:37 PM (m9V0o)

127 Just received a secret message from my friend Alex. Gonna go underground for now. Where is that iodine I put away for this? Got to stop that EMP. Hey, where is my cat?

Posted by: tinfoil fedora at December 01, 2013 04:37 PM (s3AS9)

128 They get blamed for all the cool stuff. WASP's like me, not so much.

That's what was fun about Moldbug's site. He blamed WASPs - specifically, English Dissenters - for everything.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 01, 2013 04:37 PM (Nsoq9)

129 Ukranian women should come here. I would support amnesty then...

Posted by: JoeyBagels at December 01, 2013 04:38 PM (Usdw3)

130 The lawyer/ex-gf chick is very hot, but so very annoying. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 08:35 PM (GEICT)


So very yes.   It's actually pretty damn preachy which is true to canon actually but, as I said, it's not like I watch for the plot.   My dialogue is way better, if I say so myself.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 01, 2013 04:39 PM (Gk3SS)

131 I'd be up for adopting a few hot Ukranian chicks.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2013 04:40 PM (ND2uH)

132 92 I have a beautiful little nativity set my kid brought back from Ukraine. I think I will go set it up, and say a prayer.
Posted by: mama winger

Prayer does have power. I hope it works.

Because they won't get any help from our idiotic administration. Didn't we just knuckle under to the Chinese on Friday? Why would I expect any spine in support of Ukraine on Sunday night?

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 04:40 PM (mKMj1)

133 So very yes. It's actually pretty damn preachy which is true to canon actually but, as I said, it's not like I watch for the plot. My dialogue is way better, if I say so myself. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 01, 2013 08:39 PM (Gk3SS) This episode saved itself. The black sidekick guy gave the counterpoint of people being responsible for their own actions, regardless of what's happened to them. The wife's take on the lawyer/ex-gf: "Damn she's awfully preachy and selfish. Good thing she's just hot enough to pull that off."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 04:43 PM (GEICT)

134 "By the middle of the 14th century, present Ukrainian territories were under the rule of three external powers: the Golden Horde, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, and the Kingdom of Poland,"

Ahem.  I believe Peruvia was also involved?

Posted by: pep at December 01, 2013 04:43 PM (6TB1Z)

135 Don't get me started...

Posted by: Istanbul (not Constantinople)

Or me.

Posted by: Ceylon at December 01, 2013 04:45 PM (IiAs3)

136 Time for revolution - unless your OK with the steady march into socialism.

Posted by: John at December 01, 2013 04:48 PM (rHaMl)

137 Arrow is definitely left-wing and a preachy, but hasn't gone overboard, IMHO.  Plus, the blonde gal who plays Felicity Smoak makes up for it. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 01, 2013 04:49 PM (lr3d7)

138 Evening morons! After looking over the Yoko Ono fashion show on the sidebar, I now know what to ask for for Christmas. I want the hand-crotch pants!

Posted by: EC at December 01, 2013 04:50 PM (doBIb)

139

Arrow is OW pron but its stupid and entertaining. So I continue to watch it. Yes, the blond geeky gal is hot. So is David Cassidy's daughter.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 01, 2013 04:51 PM (15w2J)

140 Maybe I should pay attention to my Twitter feed once in a while. It's chock full of Ukrainian news services...

Posted by: Anachronda at December 01, 2013 04:51 PM (U82Km)

141 Otters & gasoline? How about weasels & KY?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 01, 2013 04:52 PM (HVff2)

142 I asked my wife, my daughter and my grandaughters if they know where the ottoman empire was. And when it was. Then my lazer scanner measured them for a new dress.

Posted by: Areal supporter of modern Turkey at December 01, 2013 04:52 PM (s3AS9)

143 Arrow is definitely left-wing and a preachy, but hasn't gone overboard, IMHO. Plus, the blonde gal who plays Felicity Smoak makes up for it. Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 01, 2013 08:49 PM (lr3d7) Agree with all that. It walks the line, but interesting back story and eye candy keep it on the tv for me.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 04:53 PM (GEICT)

144 Here's the Fox News link for those who would rather not give huffpo nor other foreigners any traffic: http://preview.tinyurl.com/pxfvzed

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at December 01, 2013 04:54 PM (BXo5H)

145 A little revolution now and then is a good thing.

Posted by: toby928© Day two of mourning at December 01, 2013 04:57 PM (QupBk)

146 I'm bored. Cougar is asleeping on the couch with Beagle. Maybe I'll drink heavily for the next hour. What should I drink?

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 01, 2013 04:58 PM (eQJwb)

147 I blame Ted Cruz

Posted by: JarvisW at December 01, 2013 04:58 PM (E7Iyp)

148 What should I drink? Posted by: DC in Towson at December 01, 2013 08:58 PM (eQJwb) Whatever is closest to hand.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 04:59 PM (GEICT)

149 Amazon PrimeAir. I'm skeptical. But kinda cool they are working on it. Good PR if nothing else.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 04:59 PM (ZPrif)

150 Brandy is always good in the winter.

Posted by: Infidel at December 01, 2013 05:00 PM (IEbb0)

151

What should I drink?

 

Urine.

Posted by: Zombie Gandhi at December 01, 2013 05:00 PM (ND2uH)

152 Amazon PrimeAir. I'm skeptical. But kinda cool they are working on it. Good PR if nothing else. I foresee a lot of youths suddenly taking up sporting clays.

Posted by: EC at December 01, 2013 05:00 PM (doBIb)

153 Putin wrote his doctoral, yes, he's Doctor Vlad to you, argued that the Soviet state should use her energy products to promote the state's interests. This is why he is so interested in Syria. And Ukraine. Pipelines to Europe.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2013 05:01 PM (g1DWB)

154 Valu-rite vodka does me right. Blocks any recent memory

Posted by: drink at December 01, 2013 05:01 PM (s3AS9)

155 >>>Whatever is closest to hand. The bar I designed is 3 feet from my recliner. It's *all* close at hand. From college Cochran level swill to high end booze and everything in between.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 01, 2013 05:02 PM (eQJwb)

156 Your move Vlad You appear to be the strong horse I hope Ukrainians know the JEF is his bitch Don't expect even a strongly worded statement

Posted by: Thunderb at December 01, 2013 05:03 PM (zOTsN)

157 If only there was some.... Super Power.... who could help them... someone who could keep them out of both Russia's near abroad, and the EU.... Some.... Land of the Free type of place...

Posted by: Death Panel at December 01, 2013 05:03 PM (lZBBB)

158 What is the deal with the Ukraine? They want in to the EU, or out of it?

Posted by: navybrat at December 01, 2013 05:04 PM (YcCMP)

159 Don't expect even a strongly worded statement

Posted by: Thunderb at December 01, 2013 09:03 PM (zOTsN)


They won't even use a thesaurus for this statement!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 01, 2013 05:04 PM (XdnQT)

160 The bar I designed is 3 feet from my recliner. It's *all* close at hand. From college Cochran level swill to high end booze and everything in between. Posted by: DC in Towson at December 01, 2013 09:02 PM (eQJwb) I'm gonna ignore the second half of that. You have a bar 3 feet from your recliner? I know where I'm crashing next time I'm in MD.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 05:04 PM (GEICT)

161 The Ukraine was crazy to give up their nukes in '96.

Posted by: toby928© Day two of mourning at December 01, 2013 05:05 PM (QupBk)

162

Unfortunally for us, everyone knows TFG is a bitch.  Not even ours.

 

 

 

 

Posted by: Infidel at December 01, 2013 05:06 PM (IEbb0)

163 I feel a Hunter S Thompson drunk comin on

Posted by: where am I? at December 01, 2013 05:06 PM (s3AS9)

164 I'm too lazy to check, but have there been any links to Ukrainian chicks yet? If not, why not?

Posted by: EC at December 01, 2013 05:06 PM (doBIb)

165 Ukraine people mostly want to be more like EU, but the ruling class keeps getting bought off by Putin. There's also a large ethnic Russian minority that prefers Russia.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 05:06 PM (ZPrif)

166 Ack, spelling is not good on beer and pills.

Posted by: Infidel at December 01, 2013 05:07 PM (IEbb0)

167 I have a mini fridge on casters does that count as a bar design.

Posted by: The hickster at December 01, 2013 05:07 PM (vCVhg)

168 Lord, the Giants suck.

Posted by: toby928© Day two of mourning at December 01, 2013 05:08 PM (QupBk)

169 Ukraine PM was set to sign big new trade deal with the EU, but changed his mind at the last moment after a talk with Uncle Vlad. That was the spark for the protests.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 05:08 PM (ZPrif)

170 TD Crimsonskins.

Posted by: EC at December 01, 2013 05:08 PM (doBIb)

171

Agree with all that. It walks the line, but interesting back story and eye candy keep it on the tv for me.

They haven't openly started slamming conservatives yet, which means the eye candy wins out. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 01, 2013 05:08 PM (lr3d7)

172 If not, why not? Posted by: EC at December 01, 2013 09:06 PM (doBIb) Because the wife is sitting right next to me. Those kind of pics tend to get noticed.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 05:08 PM (GEICT)

173 >>>I know where I'm crashing next time I'm in MD. I might or might not have slept in this chair before. It reclines almost fully horizontal, which puts the beer/wine fridge within arms-length.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 01, 2013 05:08 PM (eQJwb)

174 Touchdown Aboriginals!

Posted by: toby928© Day two of mourning at December 01, 2013 05:08 PM (QupBk)

175 Of course, many younger Ukrainians want to join the EU so they can get the hell out of Ukraine.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 05:09 PM (ZPrif)

176 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH_E6YSQqTo Ukrainian Army recruitment video.....they have nothing to fear from the bear.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 01, 2013 05:09 PM (l3vZN)

177 Because the wife is sitting right next to me. Those kind of pics tend to get noticed. "Honey, I'm going to the bathroom...."

Posted by: EC at December 01, 2013 05:09 PM (doBIb)

178 "Honey, I'm going to the bathroom...." Posted by: EC at December 01, 2013 09:09 PM (doBIb) Â…with the MacBook in my hand.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 05:10 PM (GEICT)

179 Daily reminder: Ukraine is really far away.

Posted by: WOW at December 01, 2013 05:10 PM (6j8ke)

180 ....they have nothing to fear from the bear. Yeah, I'd fight for that.

Posted by: toby928© Day two of mourning at December 01, 2013 05:11 PM (QupBk)

181 Posted by: DC in Towson at December 01, 2013 09:08 PM (eQJwb) I'veÂ…fallen asleepÂ….in my recliner as well.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 05:11 PM (GEICT)

182 >>>164 I'm too lazy to check, but have there been any links to Ukrainian chicks yet? Because tinyurl is a PITA on the iPad. http://tinyurl.com/k8jund3

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 01, 2013 05:12 PM (eQJwb)

183 Ukraine is a tiny country.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 01, 2013 05:12 PM (ND2uH)

184 BBC reports 10s of thousands are protesting in Mexico City over their president's planned overhaul of the energy sector. http://bbc.in/1cLlC84 Lots of unrest around the world tonight.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at December 01, 2013 05:12 PM (fzFF6)

185 I am sure Uncle Vlad told the elected leaders of the Ukraine they had a nice little country there and it would be a shame if anything happened to it They want to stay as puppets so they make a deal with Uncle Vlad. The people dont think the tiger will eat them last and want to ally with the west

Posted by: Thunderb at December 01, 2013 05:12 PM (zOTsN)

186 Ukraine is a tiny country. They once had the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world. Fools.

Posted by: toby928© Day two of mourning at December 01, 2013 05:12 PM (QupBk)

187 The people dont think the tiger will eat them last and want to ally with the west I'm sure that Barry and the EU will fight to the last Ukrainian.

Posted by: toby928© Day two of mourning at December 01, 2013 05:13 PM (QupBk)

188 DC with the save!!!

Posted by: EC at December 01, 2013 05:14 PM (doBIb)

189 Mario Bello is a dyke???? ‘As I continued to look through photos, I came across a black-and-white one of my best friend and me taken on New Year’s Eve. We looked so happy, I couldn’t help but smile.’ She added: ‘It didn't occur to me, until that soul-searching moment in my garden, that we could perhaps choose to love each other romantically.’ The actress expressed her feelings to Clare the next time they saw each other, and recalled how they then ‘began the long, painful, wonderful process of carpet munching and scissoring.’ http://goo.gl/eG9KXs I blame Mel Gibson. How many women has he turned gay now???

Posted by: The Commenting Software at December 01, 2013 05:14 PM (kkbgQ)

190 Reforming the energy sector is possibly the #1 most important thing Mexico could do to improve their economy.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 05:15 PM (ZPrif)

191 http://tinyurl.com/k8jund3

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 01, 2013 09:12 PM (eQJwb)

The water appears to be cold.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2013 05:15 PM (8Fl6F)

192 We will support our friends in Asia

Posted by: barry what doesnt know geografy at December 01, 2013 05:15 PM (s3AS9)

193 Poland Czechoslovakia Ukraine Seems so very familiar, right?

Posted by: Thunderb at December 01, 2013 05:16 PM (zOTsN)

194 SNF is a cripple fight.

Posted by: toby928© Day two of mourning at December 01, 2013 05:16 PM (QupBk)

195 >>>The water appears to be cold. The water was nice and warm. I was just out of frame, and she had the usual reaction women do to my presence.

Posted by: DC in Towson might be lying at December 01, 2013 05:16 PM (eQJwb)

196 TD People of Unusual Stature.

Posted by: toby928© Day two of mourning at December 01, 2013 05:16 PM (QupBk)

197 The water was nice and warm. I was just out of frame, and she had the usual reaction women do to my presence. Posted by: DC in Towson might be lying at December 01, 2013 09:16 PM (eQJwb) That was pretty bad, even for my "standards".

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 05:17 PM (GEICT)

198 >>>That was pretty bad, even for my "standards". Nice scare quotes. Appropriate too.

Posted by: DC in Towson might be lying at December 01, 2013 05:20 PM (eQJwb)

199 Just checked into the Giants-'Skins game and holy shit! Alfred Morris has two receptions!

Posted by: logprof at December 01, 2013 05:20 PM (fOFYL)

200 >>I am sure Uncle Vlad told the elected leaders of the Ukraine they had a nice little country there and it would be a shame if anything happened to it He's already demonstrated it to both Ukraine and the EU. In 2009 he shut down gas shipments to Ukraine which not only crippled their economy it shut down Ukraine as a transit to the EU which gets 25% of its gas from Russia. Putin is trying to do in Ukraine what it did in Syria. And his opponent is the world class dunce, Obama. He'll likely get what he wants.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2013 05:20 PM (g1DWB)

201 Ukrainian women soldiers. http://tinyurl.com/6owxlk Invasion doesn't seem so bad.

Posted by: EC at December 01, 2013 05:20 PM (doBIb)

202 Reforming the energy sector is possibly the #1 most important thing Mexico could do to improve their economy. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 09:15 PM (ZPrif) That sounds logical. Does their president have a coherent plan for it? Why the protests? My reason for posting that link was simply that it seems there has been a great deal of protesting in many countries lately.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at December 01, 2013 05:21 PM (fzFF6)

203

If memory serves, didn't the Ukraine and Poland have a defense shield that the SCOAMF dismanteled?

 

Sorry, not firing on all cylinders.  Broken ribs are not good.

Posted by: Infidel at December 01, 2013 05:22 PM (IEbb0)

204 The collapse of the Soviet Union is the greatest geopolitical calamity of the century Vlad Putin

Posted by: Thunderb at December 01, 2013 05:23 PM (zOTsN)

205 >>>Invasion doesn't seem so bad We commence prepatory bombing in 5 minutes.

Posted by: DC in Towson might be lying at December 01, 2013 05:23 PM (eQJwb)

206 I had television off until after 7 pm to watch Showtime series, first two hours were reruns of last Saunday's episode.s. I haven't seen a thing about it on my iPad. There is usually a WSJ, Fox News or Drudge apps. I was updating my rose list for 2014, while reruns were on. The SCOAMF will manage to be on the wrong side, as usual.

Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2013 05:23 PM (z4WKX)

207 New Mex Prez wants to allow private investment in energy sector. Right now it's pure socialism, govt monopoly. The Mexican Left is vowing to take down the govt rather than allow private investment in the energy sector. Mexico's energy sector massively underperforms because it's so corrupt ... because it doesn't allow private investment, aka capitalism. So all the layabouts with their phoney baloney govt jobs aren't so happy.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 05:24 PM (ZPrif)

208 We commence prepatory bombing fapping in 5 minutes.

Posted by: toby928© Day two of mourning at December 01, 2013 05:24 PM (QupBk)

209

Ukrainian women soldiers.


http://tinyurl.com/6owxlk



Invasion doesn't seem so bad.  

 

 

What the fuck...

they don't have standard issue pumps?

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2013 05:24 PM (ND2uH)

210 Don't make the mistake of thinking that Obama is a dunce.

He's doing exactly what was planned and promised.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 01, 2013 05:24 PM (LSDdO)

211 Ukrainian women soldiers. http://tinyurl.com/6owxlk Invasion doesn't seem so bad. Would they consider some help from a hastily-formed American Foreign Legion?

Posted by: t-bird at December 01, 2013 05:24 PM (FcR7P)

212 Yes they wanted a missile shield

Posted by: Thunderb at December 01, 2013 05:25 PM (zOTsN)

213 Lopez Obrador, the defeated Socialist, is a wannabe Chavez.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 05:25 PM (ZPrif)

214 those women, they make good personal bodyguards, sunglasses optional.

Posted by: moamar in hiding at December 01, 2013 05:25 PM (s3AS9)

215

New Mex Prez wants to allow private investment in energy sector. Right now it's pure socialism, govt monopoly.

 

New Mexico is a State. 

They don't have Presidents.   They have Governors.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at December 01, 2013 05:25 PM (ND2uH)

216 I don't think he is a dunce I think he is a commie and Putins bitch The Manchurian President

Posted by: Thunderb at December 01, 2013 05:26 PM (zOTsN)

217 Not that it's a biggy but Nicaragua is becoming a Marxist hellhole again.

This time's probably permanent.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 01, 2013 05:27 PM (LSDdO)

218 Reforming the energy sector is possibly the #1 most important thing Mexico could do to improve their economy. Feeding a kleptocracy does not make it go away.

Posted by: t-bird at December 01, 2013 05:27 PM (FcR7P)

219 So, we can expect some bloodshed, followed by "things as they were" except the Ukranians will be just that much more angry. I'm not seeing a win here for anybody. Maybe they should just drop the whole idea.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2013 05:27 PM (1Y+hH)

220 AFP - A Pacific islander's bid to become the world's first climate change refugee failed Tuesday, with a New Zealand judge describing his case as "unconvincing".

Lawyers for Ioane Teitiota, 37, argued that New Zealand immigration authorities should not deport him, even though his visa had expired, because rising seas were threatening his low-lying homeland of Kiribati in the central Pacific.

The difficulties Teitiota and his family would encounter in Kiribati -- which consists of more than 30 coral atolls, most only a few metres above sea level -- meant they should be recognised as refugees, the lawyers said.

In a written ruling handed down on Tuesday, High Court judge John Priestley acknowledged that Kiribati was suffering environmental degradation attributable to climate change, including storm surges, flooding and water contamination.

But he said that under the internationally recognised UN Refugee Convention a refugee must fear persecution if they returned to their homeland, a criteria Teitiota did not meet.

"The economic environment of Kiribati might certainly not be as attractive to the applicant and his fellow nationals as the economic environment and prospects of Australia and New Zealand," he said.

"But... his position does not appear to be different from that of any other Kiribati national."

The judge rejected the argument from Teitiota's legal team that he was being "persecuted passively" by the environment because climate change was a threat to him that the Kiribati government was powerless to control.

"Novel and optimistic though these submissions are, they are unconvincing and must fail," Priestley wrote.

Posted by: Frankie Goes To New Zealand at December 01, 2013 05:27 PM (e8kgV)

221 Okay, so I settled on a spur of the moment holiday White Russain. Pinnacle Peppermint Bark vodka, Kahlua, Bailey's Vanilla Cinnamon since we're out of milk. Very tasty. In unrelated news, I now have type 2 die-a-beet-us.

Posted by: DC in Towson might be lying at December 01, 2013 05:27 PM (eQJwb)

222 >>> Would they consider some help from a hastily-formed American Foreign Legion? Sure, but they might want you to fight the Russians, not "burrow in their foxhole"

Posted by: fluffy at December 01, 2013 05:27 PM (Ua6T/)

223

That's it.  Poland had a missile shield, obutt nixed our help on that.  Is that correct?

 

Fuck it, going to bed. 

Posted by: Infidel at December 01, 2013 05:28 PM (IEbb0)

224 What the fuck... they don't have standard issue pumps? Yeah, the first thing I noticed too were their shoes! /snark

Posted by: EC at December 01, 2013 05:29 PM (doBIb)

225 Good lord, Collinsworth and Michaels sure know how to blow a QB.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2013 05:29 PM (ND2uH)

226 Bush had arranged for Poland to be the site of radar and launch pads and in return they would be covered.

Obama nixed the deal when Putin squealed.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 01, 2013 05:29 PM (LSDdO)

227 America should support the pro-freedom protests in Ukraine and oppose the anti-capitalist ones in Mexico. Obama will probably do the opposite.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 05:29 PM (ZPrif)

228 I don't think he is a dunce I think he is a commie and Putins bitch
All of the above?

Posted by: fluffy at December 01, 2013 05:30 PM (Ua6T/)

229 Good lord, Collinsworth and Michaels sure know how to blow a QB. Clearly, Collinsworth has talented tonsils.

Posted by: toby928© Day two of mourning at December 01, 2013 05:30 PM (QupBk)

230 You take the Americana out of the Pax Americana and you still have Pax, right? Well, they'll probably name it after me, but you get the idea.

Posted by: Baraka O at December 01, 2013 05:30 PM (FcR7P)

231 It's a mistake to underestimate your enemy.

And be assured, Obama is America's Enemy.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 01, 2013 05:30 PM (LSDdO)

232 Sure, but they might want you to fight the Russians, not "burrow in their foxhole" In that case, I propose a joint training exercise, over here. ...in my pants.

Posted by: t-bird at December 01, 2013 05:32 PM (FcR7P)

233 I visited family for the holiday in New Mexico. The new president had the Amtrak Santa Fe Chief searched  from top to bottom. And he confiscated my frybread sandwich. Really got my goat.

Posted by: green chile eater at December 01, 2013 05:32 PM (s3AS9)

234 Tension mounts in the Ukraine Always be sure to torque your tension mounts to 35 ft/lbs.

Posted by: --- at December 01, 2013 05:32 PM (MMC8r)

235 >>>I propose a joint training exercise I see what you did there.

Posted by: DC in Towson might be lying at December 01, 2013 05:33 PM (eQJwb)

236 Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2013 09:29 PM (ND2uH) The mute button is my constant friend.

Posted by: Vendette at December 01, 2013 05:33 PM (gferp)

237 Micheals doesn't even have vestige of gag reflex left.

Posted by: toby928© Day two of mourning at December 01, 2013 05:34 PM (QupBk)

238 My guess is the current leadership doesn't like the taste of polonium.

Posted by: Jean at December 01, 2013 05:34 PM (CMlD4)

239 >>Bush had arranged for Poland to be the site of radar and launch pads and in return they would be covered. >>Obama nixed the deal when Putin squealed. There are two pipeline routes from Russia to EU countries. One goes north through Poland and the other south through Ukraine. The EU is Gazprom's biggest customer. Putin is Gazprom.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2013 05:34 PM (g1DWB)

240 Two minutes left in the half! Get ready for the Bob Costas sermon!

Posted by: Vendette at December 01, 2013 05:35 PM (gferp)

241 Redskins - Giants. East Coast Futility Bowl

Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2013 05:36 PM (1Y+hH)

242 Putin mourns for the USSR Putin was KGB Putin routinely jails and kills capitalists and journalists This is his nature

Posted by: Thunderb at December 01, 2013 05:36 PM (zOTsN)

243 189; yawn Why do people insist on letting the world know there sexual preference details? I mean I love busty redheads but I don't tell the world about it or think I'm special. I just love busty redheads.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 01, 2013 05:36 PM (8SsiG)

244 >>> Putin was KGB *** swoon ***

Posted by: Barry at December 01, 2013 05:37 PM (Ua6T/)

245 "So I think the pragmatic choice for Ukraine is to make the best they can of their relationship with Russia, rather than rely on the shaky support they are likely to get from the EU or the USA.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Nah.  Russia's the one that's circling the bowl.  US and Yoorup's natural gas production is leaving Russia in the dust.  And Russian demographics, hoo boy.

Posted by: mrp at December 01, 2013 05:37 PM (HjPtV)

246 Even the announcers are falling asleep.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2013 05:37 PM (1Y+hH)

247 >>>Get ready for the Bob Costas sermon! Huh. I've never seen "switch to Big Bang Theory for twenty minutes" spelled that way before.

Posted by: DC in Towson might be lying at December 01, 2013 05:38 PM (eQJwb)

248 Sooo there are dirty hippies in the Ukraine too?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 01, 2013 05:38 PM (DmNpO)

249 Just my 2 cents: One thing to keep in mind is that there are no good guys in Ukraine. Yulia is just as corrupt as the guys, but the difference is she's prettier (it's probably why they arrested her). Don't just assume that Ukraine will be better off under the EU. On my Ukrainian tour, my guide in Poltava (east of Kyiv) did not want the EU in Ukraine because the Germans would buy up country financially (and the Germans and Ukrainians have a nasty history). Wouldn't be surprised if these 'protesters' are hired astroturf. It's a common belief in Ukraine (at least according to my Kyiv guide) that the CIA orchestrated the Orange Revolution. Given the fact the entire country runs along the lines of 1920s Chicago, that would not surprise me here.

Posted by: shadowaofashade at December 01, 2013 05:39 PM (kL1XH)

250 "I just love busty redheads." Oh FU weirdo, next you'll be liking oxygen and ice cream.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2013 05:40 PM (1Y+hH)

251 MOSCOW (The Borowitz Report)—The N.S.A. leaker Edward Snowden today reached out to the United States government, offering to fix its troubled healthcare.gov Web site in exchange for immunity from prosecution.

Speaking from an undisclosed location in Russia, Mr. Snowden said he hacked the Web site over the weekend and thinks he is “pretty sure what the problem is.”

“Look, this thing was built terribly,” he said. “It’s a government Web site, O.K.?”

Mr. Snowden said that if an immunity deal can be worked out, “I can get to work on this thing right away—I don’t need a password.”

Posted by: Frankie Goes To Moscow at December 01, 2013 05:40 PM (e8kgV)

252 The People of Unusual Stature tie it up.

Posted by: toby928© Day two of mourning at December 01, 2013 05:40 PM (QupBk)

253 Giants tie it up.

Posted by: Vendette at December 01, 2013 05:40 PM (gferp)

254 Tension mounts in the Ukraine Always be sure to torque your tension mounts to 35 ft/lbs. Posted by: --- at December 01, 2013 09:32 PM (MMC8r) What is it w/the Dodge pu commercial touting xlb/ft of torque?

Posted by: BignJames at December 01, 2013 05:41 PM (HtUkt)

255 shadowofashade, honestly, you aren't paying attention.

This isn't about Yulia.

This isn't even about the EU.

This is about not going back to being a Russian province.

Yes, they're going to lose, for now. But I'm proud of them for trying.

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 05:41 PM (mKMj1)

256 You're gonna need all the rubber bands you can get from Mike Rowe, people. Gird those loins. Or we can do it the other way...

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 01, 2013 05:41 PM (FcR7P)

257 I didn't build healthcare.gov

Posted by: jar at December 01, 2013 05:41 PM (e8kgV)

258 Redskins-Giants, cripple fight indeed.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 01, 2013 05:41 PM (8SsiG)

259 The EU is the future, we have your best intrest at heart 80% of the time.

Posted by: your betters from harvard at December 01, 2013 05:42 PM (s3AS9)

260 Posted by: puddleglum at December 01, 2013 09:36 PM (8SsiG) They're trolling for dates?

Posted by: BignJames at December 01, 2013 05:43 PM (HtUkt)

261 250; and beer. I'm edgy.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 01, 2013 05:44 PM (8SsiG)

262 700,000 "astroturfers"?  Yeah, right.  Ethnic Russkies vs Ukrainians.  Just like ethnic Russkies vs.  native Estonians.  Just like ethnic Russkies vs. native Latvians, etc. etc.  Last century it was ethnic Germans stirring up trouble in the borderlands, now, Russians.

Posted by: mrp at December 01, 2013 05:44 PM (HjPtV)

263 Fuck, why don't they just petition the U.S. for statehood? It couldn't work out any worse for them economically than joining the EU.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 01, 2013 05:44 PM (DmNpO)

264 OK, Redskins, you got 1 second back. Use it wisely.

Posted by: Vendette at December 01, 2013 05:45 PM (gferp)

265 "Wouldn't be surprised if these 'protesters' are hired astroturf. It's a common belief in Ukraine (at least according to my Kyiv guide) that the CIA orchestrated the Orange Revolution. Given the fact the entire country runs along the lines of 1920s Chicago, that would not surprise me here. "

Posted by: shadowaofashade at December 01, 2013 09:39 PM (kL1XH)

Oh really,
Who the fuck is gonna hire and organize 100,000 people?
"Organizing For Obama" couldn't do it. Just who do you think did this?
The CIA?
The original "Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight"?
If you have cites to back that up, let's see them...




Posted by: ChrisP at December 01, 2013 05:46 PM (BpTC0)

266 MRP, yep.

Usually, with some encouragement from the Rodina.

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 05:46 PM (mKMj1)

267 What's with this astroturf nonsense? bullshit. There are clear better and worse guys in Ukraine. Russia is much worse than the EU. It's not even close.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 05:46 PM (ZPrif)

268 Not that it's a biggy but Nicaragua is becoming a Marxist hellhole again. This time's probably permanent. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 01, 2013 09:27 PM (LSDdO) Isn't there rioting going on in Honduras as well? IIRC, the defeated far Left candidate was declaring herself the victor. She is the wife of the former President who was legitimately removed by office automatically and removed by their Supreme Court who ordered the army to remove him. Their Congress overwhelmingly voted to affirm, including most members of the ousted President's own party. Paraguay also had to kick out their President (an ex-Priest who was kicked out of the church), and did so according to their Constitution.

Posted by: The Fruited Hat at December 01, 2013 05:46 PM (Vk2pI)

269 265; Heh! Its cute people think the CIA is competent.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 01, 2013 05:48 PM (8SsiG)

270 >>>OK, Redskins, you got 1 second back. Use it wisely. Awwww. You still have hope. That's adorable.

Posted by: DC in Towson might be lying at December 01, 2013 05:49 PM (eQJwb)

271 Fuck, why don't they just petition the U.S. for statehood? It couldn't work out any worse for them economically than joining the EU. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

Do you have any idea, young lady, how much pain and anguish that would cause the Poles if we didn't make the same offer to them, earlier?  The Polish romance with America has cooled a bit with Barry in the saddle, but the love still lingers.

Posted by: mrp at December 01, 2013 05:49 PM (HjPtV)

272 Master of the clock, that kid.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2013 05:49 PM (1Y+hH)

273 US and Yoorup's natural gas production is leaving Russia in the dust. Don't forget Israel's new offshore find. Da Jooz will suddenly become a lot more popular in Europe.

Posted by: --- at December 01, 2013 05:49 PM (MMC8r)

274 That's like straight Putin propaganda. The protests are run by the CIA! And the people wanting more freedom are all just crooks! And CIA plants! Come on.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 05:49 PM (ZPrif)

275 700,000 "astroturfers"? Yeah, right. Ethnic Russkies vs Ukrainians. Just like ethnic Russkies vs. native Estonians. Just like ethnic Russkies vs. native Latvians, etc. etc. Last century it was ethnic Germans stirring up trouble in the borderlands, now, Russians. Posted by: mrp at December 01, 2013 09:44 PM (HjPtV) Anschluß = Подключение = Reconquista de Aztlán

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 01, 2013 05:51 PM (Vk2pI)

276 Awwww. You still have hope. That's adorable. Posted by: DC in Towson might be lying at December 01, 2013 09:49 PM (eQJwb) I'm not a Redskins fan. I was just thinking they may have done better with that 1 second than another team did yesterday (with apologies to Toby).

Posted by: Vendette at December 01, 2013 05:51 PM (gferp)

277 Flatbush Joe, he's just quoting his "guide."

*Snicker*

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 05:51 PM (mKMj1)

278 Dianna:

My point was this 'protest' could just be paid EU astroturf (just the Orange Revolution was CIA astroturf). 

Posted by: shadowaofashade at December 01, 2013 05:52 PM (kL1XH)

279 http://goo.gl/eG9KXs

I blame Mel Gibson. How many women has he turned gay now???

Posted by: The Commenting Software at December 01, 2013 09:14 PM (kkbgQ)



Wow, she looks rough.  Time has not been kind.  I'm guessing that there's more to this than that she simply "discovered" that she was gay.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 01, 2013 05:52 PM (lr3d7)

280 ; and beer. I'm edgy. Posted by: puddleglum at I thought that's what the busty redhead was for.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 01, 2013 05:52 PM (1Y+hH)

281 Worked with a lot of Ukrainians over the years, good people every one of them. Many now citizens, and quite aware of (and disturbed by) the direction of this country. I hope their country can get free somehow, the EU ( as krappy as it is)seems like small beer compared to the "ally" that brought them the Holodomor. Good luck and God bless you all, Ukraine !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 01, 2013 05:53 PM (3X3ZR)

282 Do NOT trust otters. A friend told me..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 01, 2013 05:53 PM (aDwsi)

283 >>>I was just thinking they may have done better with that 1 second than another team did yesterday (with apologies to Toby). Hehehe. I'm still giggling over that.

Posted by: DC in Towson might be lying at December 01, 2013 05:53 PM (eQJwb)

284 #278 - You're not very sensible.

The Orange Revolution was a lot of things - some of them intensely weird, from our point of view - but it was not "CIA astroturf."

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 05:53 PM (mKMj1)

285 Wow, she looks rough. Time has not been kind. What's wrong with her faaaaaaaace...?

Posted by: --- at December 01, 2013 05:54 PM (MMC8r)

286 So, Did you see Kim Kardashian's sisters boob's? I just have to get my brows done. Ever wonder where I sell all that crap? Oh, momma's callin'. My man is yesus you know!!!11!!!... fargblgarbbblll...

Posted by: squirrel at December 01, 2013 05:54 PM (s3AS9)

287 Damn, that killed my /plinkett tag.

Posted by: --- at December 01, 2013 05:54 PM (MMC8r)

288

Nice turtleneck, Costas. 

It looks like Heinz Ward is having a conversation with his penis.

Posted by: garrett at December 01, 2013 05:54 PM (ND2uH)

289 Do you have any idea, young lady, how much pain and anguish that would cause the Poles if we didn't make the same offer to them, earlier? The Polish romance with America has cooled a bit with Barry in the saddle, but the love still lingers. *** Did I need to include the sarc tag?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 01, 2013 05:55 PM (DmNpO)

290 My screen looks different. I wonder if my Mac updated something & I didnÂ’t notice it. The colors are intense.

Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2013 05:55 PM (z4WKX)

291 Just saw on Drudge that Snowden offered to fix SCOAMTTcare website for amnesty. Said he doesn't need any passwords.

Posted by: Justamom at December 01, 2013 05:55 PM (Sptt8)

292 Do NOT trust otters. A friend told me..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 01, 2013 09:53 PM (aDwsi)


NOW ya tell me!!

Posted by: Flounder at December 01, 2013 05:55 PM (E7Iyp)

293 Oh, the EU is paying them to protest? That's 10% less insane than claiming they are paid by the CIA.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 05:56 PM (ZPrif)

294 Did I need to include the sarc tag? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

No, but I should have.

Posted by: mrp at December 01, 2013 05:56 PM (HjPtV)

295 >>> this 'protest' could just be paid EU astroturf Never tell me the odds, Kid!

Posted by: Han Solo at December 01, 2013 05:57 PM (Ua6T/)

296 Bush had arranged for Poland to be the site of radar and launch pads and in return they would be covered. Obama nixed the deal when Putin squealed. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 01, 2013 09:29 PM (LSDdO) I believe that was one of the first things TFG did as president elect, or maybe he was president. IÂ’ve tried to ignore him as much as possible.

Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2013 05:59 PM (z4WKX)

297 The "protest" could also be an optical illusion. Maybe it's only 10 people using mirrors so it looks like a hundred thousand! Where's David Blaine?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 01, 2013 05:59 PM (ZPrif)

298 People:

I just reported what the NATIVE UKRAINIANS told me (without any prompting). 


Posted by: shadowaofashade at December 01, 2013 05:59 PM (kL1XH)

299 No, but I should have. *** heh. Right now joining the US no more guarantees economic success than joining the EU. We can't even get our own shit straight until the Dems are out of office and tax/regulation-loving R'pubs are replaced.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 01, 2013 05:59 PM (DmNpO)

300 Oh, the EU is paying them to protest? That's 10% less insane than claiming they are paid by the CIA. Posted by: Flatbush Joe

No! No!  That's 100% more insane!  : )

Posted by: mrp (now adding smiley faces, just to be sure) at December 01, 2013 05:59 PM (HjPtV)

301 Flatbush Joe, I think "shadowofashade" is a paranoid idiot. The EU has the money to turn out over ten people in what alternate universe?

Yeah, that's what I thought, too.

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 05:59 PM (mKMj1)

302 kL1XH

Not recognising your hash, tovarisch.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 01, 2013 06:00 PM (Nsoq9)

303 "The Ukraine was crazy to give up their nukes in '96."

All of the Soviet "special weapons", no matter where they were, had been rigged with the Red version of a PAL, a permissive action link.

Not got correct code? Nukey no workey.

Maaaaaaybe possible to make warhead work after reverse engineering everything down to the firing set. Not something that happens quickly.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 01, 2013 06:01 PM (gqT4g)

304 #298 - My dear, do you speak Russian or Ukrainian?

Because, what they "tell" you through your "guide" (minder), and what they actually say? Very different animals.

My spoken Russian sucks. I actually understand quite a lot. How about you?

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 06:01 PM (mKMj1)

305 >>> I just reported what the NATIVE UKRAINIANS told me (without any prompting). Can we get an exclusive?

Posted by: Cokie Roberts' Twitter feed at December 01, 2013 06:01 PM (Ua6T/)

306 NDH, IÂ’m going to watch Masters of Sex now. IÂ’m glad I remembered that you posted a while back that it was good. Have you watched Ray Donovan or Homeland on demand yet?

Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2013 06:02 PM (z4WKX)

307 I just reported what the NATIVE UKRAINIANS told me (without any prompting). Posted by: shadowaofashade at December 01, 2013 09:59 PM (kL1XH) And I know guys that would tell you that aliens are real and that most of our current technology stems from reverse engineering alien tech. Doesn't make it true.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 06:02 PM (GEICT)

308 Obama hapless foreign policy has left bubbles of opportunity for the bad guys and potential cesspools everywhere.

Posted by: gracepmc at December 01, 2013 06:02 PM (rznx3)

309 You can never go wrong with a Tonio reference, but do you really think the Boss is going to bring out the discs on this one?

Posted by: CraigC at December 01, 2013 06:03 PM (07cQi)

310 Can we get an exclusive? Posted by: Cokie Roberts' Twitter feed --------------- Sure..., they hate Obama. Roberts: "Oh..., well, we can't say that."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 01, 2013 06:03 PM (aDwsi)

311 The question is...why would anyone need to pay them to protest? Wanting EU association makes sense given the history, even if you disagree with it. And the EU hasn't been exactly welcoming to the former Eastern bloc countries, so it's unlikely they'd make the expense and risk pissing off the rat-faced bastard in the Kremlin.

Posted by: --- at December 01, 2013 06:05 PM (MMC8r)

312 Fake protest??? I got your fake protest right here. In Ukraine we only protest when it pay's. In US you get pay to protest. See difference? Ya, I think so.

Posted by: boris from seiu moscow at December 01, 2013 06:05 PM (s3AS9)

313 "302 kL1XH

Not recognising your hash, tovarisch.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 01, 2013 10:00 PM (Nsoq9)"

But, he's CONCERNED!

Posted by: ChrisP at December 01, 2013 06:05 PM (BpTC0)

314 NDH, IÂ’m going to watch Masters of Sex now. IÂ’m glad I remembered that you posted a while back that it was good. Have you watched Ray Donovan or Homeland on demand yet? *** I'm happy you are enjoying MoS. At your encouragement I looked on Showtime On-Demand for Homeland and couldn't find it. Then, last night, I stumbled into an area called "Bingeworthy TV" and found it there. I watched three episodes last night. So far, so good.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 01, 2013 06:06 PM (DmNpO)

315 Regarding Nicaragua, it appears that continuismo is alive and well there, as Daniel Ortega is pushing through a Constitutional ban on term limits. Soon to be "President for Life" Ortega.


Having been there myself on several occasions, though, I don't see it as Marxism. Ortega (and his very nasty wife) portrays himself as a patriot, socialist, and "christian". He got the RC church on side by banning abortion, under any circumstances. He is less a marxist than he is a corporatist fascist, in the mold of Juan Peron, Franco, or even Anastasio Somoza. I have heard Nicas refer to him as "Somoza light". He has a good relationship with his capitalist cronies.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2013 06:07 PM (8Fl6F)

316 "My screen looks different. I wonder if my Mac updated something & I didn't notice it."

Uh, no, that was us.

Posted by: NSA at December 01, 2013 06:08 PM (gqT4g)

317 At your encouragement I looked on Showtime On-Demand for Homeland and couldn't find it. Then, last night, I stumbled into an area called "Bingeworthy TV" and found it there. I watched three episodes last night. So far, so good. Posted by: Niedermeyer’s Dead Horse at December 01, 2013 10:06 PM (DmNpO) You must have Comcast. You never know where you are going to find things. MOS at least has its own category on Showtime, you don’t have to look at the series. I”m glad you liked Homeland. I loved first season. This year is good too but first was the best.

Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2013 06:08 PM (z4WKX)

318 Actually Dianna, both of the guides spoke flawless English. 

I never said I agreed with them.


Posted by: shadowaofashade at December 01, 2013 06:08 PM (kL1XH)

319 You must have Comcast. You never know where you are going to find things. MOS at least has its own category on Showtime, you donÂ’t have to look at the series. *** I do indeed.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 01, 2013 06:09 PM (DmNpO)

320 >>>And I know guys that would tell you that aliens are real and that most of our current technology stems from reverse engineering alien tech. Dude, that's totally true. I saw it on the tee vee. Plus, the guy had wacky hair, so you know he's a real scientist.

Posted by: DC in Towson might be lying at December 01, 2013 06:09 PM (eQJwb)

321 176 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH_E6YSQqTo
Ukrainian Army recruitment video.....they have nothing to fear from the bear.

How about a Ukrainian hottie dancing around on a MiG-29?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lDZfCN2OHY

Posted by: Anachronda at December 01, 2013 06:12 PM (U82Km)

322 Dude, that's totally true. I saw it on the tee vee. Plus, the guy had wacky hair, so you know he's a real scientist. *** Lemme guess. The History Channel?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 01, 2013 06:12 PM (DmNpO)

323 Dude, that's totally true. I saw it on the tee vee. Plus, the guy had wacky hair, so you know he's a real scientist. Posted by: DC in Towson might be lying at December 01, 2013 10:09 PM (eQJwb) I love the guy like a brother. He's godfather to my girls. But I have had some insane convos regarding that kind of stuff. My buddy, not the crazy haired weirdo scientist guy.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 06:12 PM (GEICT)

324 >>> Actually Dianna, both of the guides spoke flawless English. Hey! You-crane, right? You wanna crane, just go ahead and crane. >>> I never said I agreed with them. We don't have to agree, 'cause, Hey! That's America, Jack!

Posted by: Uncle Si at December 01, 2013 06:14 PM (Ua6T/)

325 Hugh Crain?! Oh No! RUN!! What? The Ukraine? Oh, never mind.

Posted by: Elanor Lance at December 01, 2013 06:15 PM (OJKfN)

326 http://tinyurl.com/lhmte3a Here is Bolton talking about China testing the US.

Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2013 06:16 PM (z4WKX)

327 it's gotta start somewhere...the Ukraine is as good a spot as any other

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2013 06:16 PM (JMmQ9)

328 To all the people saying this is Putin's doing.
That has a lot to do with it, but according to my wife's family who live in the Ukraine, it is do to the East/West divide in the country.  The majority of the citizens in the Western part of the Country want the benefits they think the EU free trade will bring.  While those in the Eastern half see it as a way to lock out their factories and manufacturing.

Think North/South during the American Civil War.

Posted by: Bill at December 01, 2013 06:16 PM (GFbkw)

329 It's Celebrity Chopped. One is the actress who played Mary Ann on Gilligan's Island. She just gleefully chopped up some candied ginger.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at December 01, 2013 06:17 PM (fzFF6)

330 #318 - It doesn't matter what your guides spoke. It matters what you understand.

Or don't you understand the implications?

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 06:18 PM (mKMj1)

331 Fascism is now the dominant political-economic system in the world. Even China is fascist, despite retaining the symbols of Communism. The United States is also fascist, and the Constitution gets no more than lip service.

Posted by: rickl at December 01, 2013 06:19 PM (sdi6R)

332 HmmmÂ…Â…I feel like something is missing. It's been sketchy as of late. Not quite sureÂ….

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 06:19 PM (GEICT)

333 I WANT MY ONT Sorry, was I shouting?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 01, 2013 06:20 PM (RZ8pf)

334 While those in the Eastern half see it as a way to lock out their factories and manufacturing.

Think North/South during the American Civil War. Posted by: Bill

The Russians bitched that Ukraine's defense industries were infringing on Russia's patents.

Posted by: mrp at December 01, 2013 06:20 PM (HjPtV)

335 Posted by: gracepmc at December 01, 2013 10:02 PM (rznx3) It will be that way for years!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 01, 2013 06:21 PM (XdnQT)

336 PGiS, you've put Dire Straits in my head...

Posted by: Vendette at December 01, 2013 06:21 PM (gferp)

337 Well, free trade is always good, and suppression of dissent is bad, but OTOH, getting in bed with the EU has to be a bad thing, too. Sounds like our friends the Ukranians are just a mixed-up bunch of folks! Both sides duking it out for something stupid. Gee, if we had a govt in Washington that provided a good example to countries like this one, maybe they'd sign on with us instead, and people could be free and prosperous, and stuff.

Posted by: Optimizer at December 01, 2013 06:22 PM (Mxt9o)

338 Slavs speaking flawless English.   Yes, some do.

Posted by: mrp at December 01, 2013 06:22 PM (HjPtV)

339 Seriously, the fucking pop vid is really annoying.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at December 01, 2013 06:22 PM (GEICT)

340 Posted by: Vendette at December 01, 2013 10:21 PM (gferp)

So I'm not the only one!

Do you hear the guitars afterward?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2013 06:23 PM (oJ5Fd)

341 Do you hear the guitars afterward? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2013 10:23 PM (oJ5Fd) Now I do!

Posted by: Vendette at December 01, 2013 06:23 PM (gferp)

342 >>>I WANT MY ONT I want to have another drink. But it's bed time. Damnit.

Posted by: DC in Towson might be lying at December 01, 2013 06:23 PM (eQJwb)

343 Sorry, was I shouting?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 01, 2013 10:20 PM (RZ8pf)

No worries, my ears normally ring only for a little while.

Posted by: tbodie at December 01, 2013 06:24 PM (13IVx)

344 "330 #318 - It doesn't matter what your guides spoke. It matters what you understand.

Or don't you understand the implications?

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 10:18 PM (mKMj1)"


I really think that he may not.

His 'Guides' speak for all Ukraine. As the Ukrainians he met spoke for all of Ukraine.

Anything else is "Astroturf" by the CIA...

Posted by: ChrisP at December 01, 2013 06:24 PM (BpTC0)

345 I WANT MY ONT Sorry, was I shouting? Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 01, 2013 10:20 PM Your shouting doesn't bother me a bit. Damn Straight, PGiS. I gotta be driving to the office in less than 8 hours, I want my ONT soon if not sooner.

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2013 06:24 PM (JMmQ9)

346 I really think that he may not.His 'Guides' speak for all Ukraine. As the Ukrainians he met spoke for all of Ukraine.Anything else is "Astroturf" by the CIA... Posted by: ChrisP at December 01, 2013 10:24 PM (BpTC0) Maybe the guides were CIA?

Posted by: Vendette at December 01, 2013 06:24 PM (gferp)

347 I WANT MY ONT Sorry, was I shouting? Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle -------------------- Here sweetie..., everything will be fine. Now just take this pill...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 01, 2013 06:25 PM (aDwsi)

348 Seriously, the fucking pop vid is really annoying. *** yep

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 01, 2013 06:26 PM (DmNpO)

349 That better be a puppy upper and not a doggie downer Hammer.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 01, 2013 06:26 PM (RZ8pf)

350 I think this is the CIA AstroTurf ONT.

Posted by: blaster at December 01, 2013 06:27 PM (4+AaH)

351 I spent the holiday in New Mexico. I have never been more confused/offended. Am I Anglo, Spanish ,Indian? There are art fairs for two of those groups. And you better like green chile. Truth is I am 25% Lakota and German and English and mutt. But I wasn't asked. It was fascinating to see socially sponsord racism at work.Can you guess which party rules ABQ?

Posted by: don't call me that at December 01, 2013 06:27 PM (s3AS9)

352 #344 - I am aware of that; he/she/FSB sockpuppet may not be, or may be disingenuous.

I know I really, really hate watching people risk their lives when, basically, they are entirely betrayed.

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 06:27 PM (mKMj1)

353 I want my,
I want my ONT!

...

Posted by: ChrisP at December 01, 2013 06:28 PM (BpTC0)

354 >>> Maybe the guides were CIA? Woah! Layers, Man.

Posted by: Bill, adventurer at December 01, 2013 06:28 PM (Ua6T/)

355 #346 - No, Vendette, there's a fair chance his guides were on retainer to the FSB.

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 06:28 PM (mKMj1)

356 Just changing my socks before bed. Don't mind me.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 01, 2013 06:29 PM (eQJwb)

357 #346 - No, Vendette, there's a fair chance his guides were on retainer to the FSB. Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 10:28 PM (mKMj1) I needed to add the sarc tag but I didn't. Sigh.

Posted by: Vendette at December 01, 2013 06:29 PM (gferp)

358 Can you guess which party rules ABQ? Posted by: don't call me that at December 01, 2013 10:27 PM (s3AS9) Bugs Bunny always forgot to make the left turn there...

Posted by: Vendette at December 01, 2013 06:30 PM (gferp)

359 With friends like Alberta Oil Peon Ukraine has nothing to worry about. What part of freedom don't you get?

Posted by: whatmeworry? at December 01, 2013 06:30 PM (dZGNV)

360 What do you call a boomerang that doesn't come back ? A stick.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 01, 2013 06:30 PM (e8kgV)

361 Yay!!! It stopped raining

Posted by: Ncj at December 01, 2013 06:30 PM (mL7EQ)

362 Nude.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 01, 2013 06:31 PM (eQJwb)

363 It ain't the ONT, but a new thread is up.

Posted by: Vendette at December 01, 2013 06:31 PM (gferp)

364 Alton, did you have to remind us that we have to go to work tomorrow? I wasnÂ’t going to think about it until shortly before I went to sleep.

Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2013 06:31 PM (z4WKX)

365 I needed to add the sarc tag but I didn't. Sigh. Posted by: Vendette

Oh, I got it - I just wanted to unmercifully hammer the point home. Rather like Ayn Rand, without the gratuitous rapes.

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 06:32 PM (mKMj1)

366 363. Yay!! New thread up

Posted by: Ncj at December 01, 2013 06:32 PM (mL7EQ)

367 Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 10:32 PM (mKMj1) Thank you for clarifying!

Posted by: Vendette at December 01, 2013 06:33 PM (gferp)

368 Be back for the ONTÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 01, 2013 06:33 PM (Vk2pI)

369 yo, ncj, i was counting on your bears to beat the vikes, thanks for nuttin.

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at December 01, 2013 06:33 PM (OJKfN)

370 @Dianna: Of course I understand what joining the EU means (you know, the bureaucrats who want to dictate that cars be incapable of going faster than 70 mph). It means that Ukraine would be as expensive as the rest of the EU (as far as standard of living wise), and probably follow the EU down the path of Islamic invasion and western feminism (yuck).

Posted by: shadowaofashade at December 01, 2013 06:34 PM (kL1XH)

371 Alton, did you have to remind us that we have to go to work tomorrow? I wasnÂ’t going to think about it until shortly before I went to sleep. Posted by: Carol at December 01, 2013 10:31 PM sorry to be such a buzz-kill, Carol; but I can't sleep without a little ONT. I do not think that 10:00 PM eastern is an unreasonable time for the ONT; then again, I do not bitch about free ice cream. well, maybe a little....

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2013 06:38 PM (JMmQ9)

372 #370 - shadow - As opposed to, hey, the folks who kill 8 million of your fellows in a couple years?

What could possibly make you think they would prefer a bunch of ineffectual idiots to that?

Is my sarcasm and skepticism clear to you, or shall I abandon subtlety?

Never mind. If you can't figure it out, far be it from me to enlighten you. You had guides who spoke perfect English, and that means they were perfectly trustworthy, and conveyed every possible sentiment to you with perfect fidelity!

Posted by: Dianna at December 01, 2013 06:38 PM (mKMj1)

373 ONT is up

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2013 06:39 PM (JMmQ9)

374 With friends like Alberta Oil Peon Ukraine has nothing to worry about. What part of freedom don't you get?

Posted by: whatmeworry? at December 01, 2013 10:30 PM (dZGNV)

Idiot. If I thought that Ukraine stood a ghost of chance of prospering by hitching their wagon to the EU mule, I'd say "go for it". Ukraine is like Olive Oyl, with Russia playing the role of Bluto. Unfortunately, Popeye is nowhere to be found, and the EU is Wimpy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2013 06:43 PM (8Fl6F)

375 Guides in Turkey were very very careful about what they said and were concerned about being monitored by the state police who were loyal to Erdogun, unlike the military Your Ukrainian guides may have been just as concerned and careful.

Posted by: Thunderb at December 01, 2013 06:50 PM (zOTsN)

376 @Dianna #372 Quit being hysterical and stop jumping to conclusions. What Alberta said: Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2013 10:43 PM (8Fl6F) Idiot. If I thought that Ukraine stood a ghost of chance of prospering by hitching their wagon to the EU mule, I'd say "go for it". Ukraine is like Olive Oyl, with Russia playing the role of Bluto. Unfortunately, Popeye is nowhere to be found, and the EU is Wimpy.

Posted by: shadowaofashade at December 01, 2013 06:57 PM (kL1XH)

377 Ukraine is caught between a rock and a hard place. I don't envy them.

Posted by: rickl at December 01, 2013 07:08 PM (sdi6R)

378 156. The world knows. There might even be some fighting over him - why should Vlad have him all to himself?

Posted by: gracepmc at December 01, 2013 07:45 PM (rznx3)

379 Late update: American Left supporting, oddly enough, the Russians. See the sock link.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at December 01, 2013 09:08 PM (4NEdy)

380 Someone has probably already said it, but Ukraine isn't called "The" Ukraine anymore.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 01, 2013 10:13 PM (GiUnc)

381 8 The Vaseline I get . The otter , not so much .

OTTERS.  When Gerbils just won't cut it.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 02, 2013 05:31 AM (XO6WW)

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