October 04, 2013

1 Woman Killed Yesterday Thought Obama Was Stalking Her

Understandable; he's always on the fucking TV wherever I go.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 05:37 AM (/kI1Q)

2 Morning! 

Check out Hot Air, the Wendy Davis story, and look at the caption to it on the main page. 

Ed Morrisey must be a commenter here.

Posted by: EC at October 04, 2013 05:37 AM (GQ8sn)

3 Last time the Republicans shut down the government over a law the Democrats supported, they ended slavery.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 04, 2013 05:38 AM (VjL9S)

4 Bring the wire cutters folks. It's time for some tax cuts!

Posted by: RiverC at October 04, 2013 05:39 AM (9hUiB)

5 Who wants to bet left nuts that dead woman has 20-30 holes in her?

Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 04, 2013 05:39 AM (OH4ZH)

6 Day 4 of shutdown: Vets are going to need wire cutters to visit WWII memorial.



"Just like old times, huh?"

"Yep.  Get the engineers up here."


Posted by: EC at October 04, 2013 05:40 AM (GQ8sn)

7 Understandable; he's always on the fucking TV wherever I go.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 09:37 AM (/kI1Q)


i know right! while also using federal agencies on People He doesn't like! while also letting us know He doesn't Like US!

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 05:41 AM (nqBYe)

8

>>>Last time the Republicans shut down the government over a law the Democrats supported, they ended slavery.

 

Amend to "First time...", since in 1995-6 it was shut down over welfare reform

Posted by: Bigby's Hockey Glove at October 04, 2013 05:41 AM (3ZtZW)

9 thought obama was stalking her, my ass theyre just trying to justify goin Wild West on her ass by making her out to be a threat to obama.

Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 04, 2013 05:41 AM (OH4ZH)

10

Morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes.

 

 

I havenÂ’t been telling any Hollywood stories lately, since my repertoire is getting scanty (and, frankly, IÂ’ve been too depressed to do much more than drink and bitch online).  IÂ’m going to be away next week, holing up in a little Maine cabin to relax and recharge.  So before I go, hereÂ’s a story about Katharine Hepburn – not my favorite actress, but I know a lot of you like her.  So here goes. . .

 

 

In 1947, Hepburn was cast as Clara, the wife of composer Robert Schumann, in Song of Love.  Director Clarence Brown had arranged a prop piano for her* so that she could pretend to play while the great Arthur Rubinstein would perform on the soundtrack.

 

 

Hepburn would have none of it.  “Nonsense!  The idea that IÂ’m going to pound at some goddamned keyboard.  Rubinstein can carry the bulk of the works, but IÂ’m going to lead in with the first few bars, and IÂ’ll bet nobody knows the difference!”

 

 

For a few weeks, Hepburn studied with a professional pianist, then shot the scene.  After viewing the rushes, Rubinstein shook his head in disbelief.  “If I hadnÂ’t seen it and heard it with my own eyes and ears, I wouldnÂ’t have believed it.  That woman is incredible – she actually does play almost as well as I do.  And when she ends and I begin, only I in the whole world could tell the difference!”

 

 

Here she is, with co-star Paul Henreid as Schumann:

 

http://tinyurl.com/p8bg4uq

 

 

Hope you all have a wonderful day.

 

*just like Dooley Wilson in Casablanca.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 04, 2013 05:42 AM (zF6Iw)

11 Obamacare death panels claim their first victim.

Posted by: drivebylurker at October 04, 2013 05:42 AM (5ikDv)

12 Woman Killed Yesterday Thought Obama Was Stalking Her He is. All of us.

Posted by: Flyover Country at October 04, 2013 05:42 AM (ULH4o)

13 What's an "underage jail?"

5 years old (in a 27.5 depreciation)?

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 04, 2013 05:42 AM (VjL9S)

14 Willy, "Hey Joe think a Bangalore is overkill."

Joe, "Have you seen some of those new barriers they got, bring the Bangalores."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 05:42 AM (HEMX5)

15

>>>while also using federal agencies on People He doesn't like! while also letting us know He doesn't Like US!

 

connect the dots tra la la la la con-nect the dots tra la la la la

Posted by: Bigby's Hockey Glove at October 04, 2013 05:42 AM (3ZtZW)

16 Those Capitol Police probably had their "9's" all turned sideways and shit like in the movies.

Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 04, 2013 05:43 AM (OH4ZH)

17 "...drink and bitch online..."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 04, 2013 09:42 AM (zF6Iw)

Ah...the AOSHQ Moron lifestyle!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 04, 2013 05:44 AM (/kU/5)

18 so Fuel is down to 3.01 here in Columbia SC...

what if fuel continues to go down when ~250,000 government vehicles are not competing for your fuel?

Will LIV get it?

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 05:44 AM (9jfyN)

19

>>>theyre just trying to justify goin Wild West on her ass by making her out to be a threat to obama.

 

In the upcoming smash hit movie, Will Smith will have an agonizing scene in the Oval Office, sorta like 'Presidency at the brink of chaos' why me o lawd why me? He will have his frowny face on.

Posted by: Bigby's Hockey Glove at October 04, 2013 05:45 AM (3ZtZW)

20 The whole WW2 monument fiasco is just an embarrassment. I can't believe our "betters" are pulling this shit. Are they afraid someone is going to walk off with the wall? Petty, spitefull stuff. Especially after endorsing the Occupy movement.

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 04, 2013 05:45 AM (Zswg6)

21 7 Willow,

It's easier if you just accept he is the Ultimate Troll ever who can kill you.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 05:45 AM (9jfyN)

22 Mornin' all.... Yikes! That woman lived less than a mile from where I use to live in Stamford, CT. The cops HAD to see the baby in the car before she put in in reverse and sped away. WTF?!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 04, 2013 05:46 AM (bCEmE)

23 Woman Who Continually Had Sexual Relations With An Underage Jail Sentenced To Prison What? Was the jail just built? Huh? H8ters!!!! Why can't you leave the Buildingosexual community in peace? Why oh why can't you h8ters show tolerance and respect for the "Brickies"? Stonewall!!! Stonewall!!! Stonewall!!! Attica!!! Attica!!!! Attica!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2013 05:46 AM (ZR4Xh)

24 9 Soothsayer,

Imagine what fine stories they'll tell when we are the ones getting killed instead of a fan of his.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 05:46 AM (9jfyN)

25 MPPP make sure not to get into any traffic accidents on the way to the cabin in the woods.

*cue of scary music*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 05:46 AM (HEMX5)

26 Everything we know about everything comes to us from the news media, everything they know comes to them from their sources.

Do you trust your government?

Health care is now completely controlled by your government. The government will decide how much money they will take from you for 'health insurance'. The government will decide how much they will pay medical professionals to provide healthcare, what healthcare will be provided, and who gets it.

Most importantly, once the government has taken what money it wants from those who have more than they need, the government can then spend that money however it chooses.

From each according to ability to pay, to each according to need.

Poor people don't get money, they get government services; health care, housing, food.

Welcome to your future.

Posted by: Not buyin' it at October 04, 2013 05:46 AM (/7zt4)

27 20 Darth Randall,

the word you're looking for is *license* they want the power to grant their operatives license to disobey which means perversely they are not really disobeying get it?

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 05:47 AM (9jfyN)

28
Good news, every Juan!:

As immigrant rights advocates in California celebrated a landmark law Thursday granting driver's licenses to people who are in the country illegally, other states with similar provisions offered a glimpse of potential pitfalls, including rampant identity fraud and little improvement to public safety.

The state can learn a lot about potential problems from New Mexico, which has issued more than 90,000 driver's licenses to foreign nationals since 2003, said Demesia Padilla, that state's secretary for taxation and revenue. "It's been a disaster," Padilla said. "We have had a lot of identity fraud."

The state has broken up fraud rings that used false addresses and fraudulent lease and utility documents to obtain driver's licenses for immigrants who live in other states, she said.

A 2011 study published in the Journal of Insurance Regulation suggested that in states that grant driver's licenses to such immigrants, the rate of uninsured motorists had increased by almost 2%, resulting in more fatal car crashes.

http://tinyurl.com/qccj5lp

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 04, 2013 05:48 AM (kdS6q)

29 @12 Yep. My SO somehow got on the OFA list, and gets a half-dozen emails from him on a light day. We are all Miriam now.

48-hour rule: yesterday we were all exercised that she had a Lexus. It was "only" an Infiniti. Dr Gell-Mann, call your office.

In Taranto's column linked above, he makes a plausible 14th Amendment case for TFG's default threat as an ex-officio impeachable offense. He went off-prompter. Every time he does that, the mask slips a little more.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 04, 2013 05:48 AM (JNUY4)

30 14 Anna Puma,

I am going to try to talk wife into going to DC and I will be bringing wire cutters.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 05:48 AM (9jfyN)

31 Why oh why can't you h8ters show tolerance and respect for the "Brickies"?

http://is.gd/yMnDEx

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 05:49 AM (/kI1Q)

32 Murder Victim The employer Dr. Barry Weiss' story did an about face. Yesterday she was happy all the time, and he would NEVER in a thousand years imagine that she had anything to do with what he was hearing on the news. Today, he's selling a new story: she suffered a fall once and thereafter was trouble, trouble, trouble, got herself pregnant with an unwanted baby (hence a "bad mother"), and she was mean to clients, so he fired her. Take your pick. /A deal he couldn't refuse.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 05:49 AM (MhA4j)

33 Where is the money coming from for the wire? I blathered away about the Lavabit thing yesterday so I'll sum up. I am deeply suspicious of giving the Feds the encryption key and trusting the they will use it only on the emails for which they have a subpoena. I am deeply concerned that the same setup (single SSL encryption key for all users) can be used to for nefarious purposes. The Lavabit guy appears to have violated Rule One for dealing with the courts, i.e., never piss off the judge, so no sympathy for him on that. I don't know what I think about the whole sorry we have to have it in real time claims. I can see why it would be useful and I can also see why the Feds would be concerned that they weren't actually getting all the emails. But it looks like the Lavabit guy was trying to help, to a point. The real time claims put paid to my suggestion for third party decryption with only spot checking that it was working and then in camera review. That is impossible to implement. I honestly don't know what to think. It all comes back to the fact that, no, no, I do not trust the Feds to only look through one person's emails if they have the key to the kingdom. I don't trust me not to do that. Of course they're going to look. That's human nature. Stupid reality being all stupid messy.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 04, 2013 05:49 AM (VtjlW)

34

Wendy Davis, woman who ran filibuster over law supported by most Texans is running on the "don't let Austin become DC" platform?

Well I've seen everything now. I await the ass kicking and liberal tears to satisfy my hunger.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 04, 2013 05:50 AM (GaqMa)

35 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 05:50 AM (/PCJa)

36 jail =|= girl

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 04, 2013 05:50 AM (qnPg9)

37

Woman Who Continually Had Sexual Relations With An Underage Jail

 

At least I got a break for a while.

Posted by: The Brick Shithouse at October 04, 2013 05:50 AM (zF6Iw)

38 Brought along this from the end of the previous thread because I laughed at the perspective on the perverse: 389 Cmon...if your going to shut down the WW2 memorial, at least put some razor wire along the top. Posted by: Red Shirt at October 04, 2013 09:45 AM (FIDMq)

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 04, 2013 05:50 AM (2o9a+)

39 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 05:50 AM (/PCJa)

40 The 95-96 shutdown was over passing a law, the 1861 shutdown was over repealing a law no one but Democrats wanted.

The 2013 shutdown is, again, over repealing a law no one but Democrats want.

And, once again, the Democrats are in favor of slavery.

The first time, they supported the enslavement of man by another man.

Today, they support the enslavement of man by government.


Posted by: RoyalOil at October 04, 2013 05:50 AM (VjL9S)

41 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 04, 2013 09:42 AM (zF6Iw) Where ya headed in the land of pine trees, blueberries, and retirees?

Posted by: Mainah at October 04, 2013 05:51 AM (659DL)

42 What's an "underage jail?"

5 years old (in a 27.5 depreciation)?

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 04, 2013 09:42 AM (VjL9S)




Harry Reid's basement

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 04, 2013 05:51 AM (1Jaio)

43 40 Royal Oil,


but man *we* are the government so it's all okay you know?

//Occutards

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 05:51 AM (9jfyN)

44 Wendy Davis, woman who ran filibuster over law supported by most Texans is running on the "don't let Austin become DC" platform? Wait, what?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 05:52 AM (/PCJa)

45 AlextheChick if they have the digital keys to read your email, they have the digital keys to plant emails.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 05:52 AM (HEMX5)

46 Well, my fleeting sense of optimism that the GOP was actually winning the PR battle on the shutdown crap is gone. It may have been a coordinated OFA effort, but there was a flood of anti-Republican memes on Facebook yesterday, blatantly lying about who actually decided to shut down the memorials and the cancer hospital. And the LIV are drinking the kool aid.

The stinkin' local sports talk morning show has a weekly feature called "Weasel of the Week". Instead of listing the Eagles defense, or the Flyers general ineptitude, or even Harry Reid for his idiotic comment, they chose.....the Republicans in Congress. A fucking sports talk show.

Rage stroke time. Valu-rite city tonight.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 04, 2013 05:53 AM (YmPwQ)

47 * Woman Killed Yesterday Thought Obama Was Stalking Her --- I'd normally laugh at this, if not for all the NSA and IRS stuff from the past year. * Most Interesting Man In The World Who Signed Up For O-care Turns Out To Be A OFA Worker --- This is my shocked face. I have yet to see ANYONE brought up by this administration and get press attention that isn't a plant. * $175 Premium For A Young Healthy Student --- This is going to go over well. Someone let the LIVs hitting the bongs that this is what they're expected to pay for, essentially, no coverage. * Pelosi: Obamacare Is A Dream Come True --- What you call a dream, the country calls a nightmare, Palomino. * Taranto: Could The Republicans Be Winning? --- As long as we keep Boehner et all from f*cking it up, yes. Let the Dims keep hitting themselves in the balls with the rake. * In The Last Shutdown, The GOP Blinked Just As Clinton Was About To Fold --- This is my shocked face. The only part shocking here is that Snuffalufacus actually admitted that it wasn't a total rout in Clinton's favor. * Park Police Now Using Wire To Keep WW 2 Barricades In Place --- *facepalm* SERIOUSLY? I dare those f*ckers to arrest the person who comes out there with wire cutters or bolt cutters to remove those damn things and toss them in the Potomac.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 05:53 AM (/Crba)

48 Obama's shutdown mendacity is much worse than just shutting down the WWII monument:

"Shawn Moran, Vice President of the National Border Patrol Council, spoke exclusively with Breitbart News and claimed that Border Patrol management has begun the practice of ordering Border Patrol Agents to stand down and cease pursuing drug smugglers, human smugglers and traffickers, and illegal aliens."

That's right: Border Patrol is apparently non-essential in Obama's world. Or, he thinks it's a fitting punishment to open our borders as part of his "Obey Me, Congress, or Else" temper tantrum.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2013 05:53 AM (JRmiD)

49 Woman Killed Yesterday Thought Obama Was Stalking Her and CBS News reports that Miriam Carey was fired from her dental hygienist job in April 2012 after getting into a fight with her bosses about using a handicapped parking space they felt she didnÂ’t need to use. so, unemployed, single mother with an "unwanted" pregnancy?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 05:54 AM (IXrOn)

50 Wendy Davis, woman who ran filibuster over law supported by most Texans is running on the "don't let Austin become DC" platform? Well I've seen everything now. I await the ass kicking and liberal tears to satisfy my hunger. Abortion Barbie will go down. Hard.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 05:54 AM (xorT2)

51 44 Allen G,

She's running on a platform of fucking retard rule...

oh wait...she us wants the GOP to get its way in TX oh wait...

it don't have to make sense Allen She's Got What Plants Crave

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 05:54 AM (9jfyN)

52 Not bad willow.  Top ten.  I was back there with my pants off in the last thread.  

Posted by: Beagle at October 04, 2013 05:54 AM (sOtz/)

53 AlextheChick think found a bit of Halloween costume for you.
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Kigurumi-Wearable-animals-Tails-5.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 05:55 AM (HEMX5)

54

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 09:52 AM (/PCJa)

Just saw a clip of her speech, that's more or less a direct quote. Then something about people being "pushed to both sides readying for a fight." (may not be an exact quote.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 04, 2013 05:55 AM (GaqMa)

55 Anyone in the DC area? How about dragging a little red wagon up and down the Capital Mall with a horse's ass and a sign saying. Go Home Citizens, The Mall is Closed and You Are NOT ALLOWED to Gaze Upon the President Obama Memorial Statue. The press does seem to love the paper mache heads.

Posted by: losthusker at October 04, 2013 05:55 AM (PMVw8)

56 49 Artisanal 'ette,

The Secret Service killed Julia...

#WarOnWomyn

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 05:55 AM (9jfyN)

57 Day 4 of shutdown: Vets are going to need wire cutters to visit WWII memorial





Find Sefton. He's got our wire cutters

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 04, 2013 05:55 AM (1Jaio)

58 jail =|= girl

One leads to the other!

Posted by: Roman Polanski at October 04, 2013 05:55 AM (YVx8A)

59 25 MPPP make sure not to get into any traffic accidents on the way to the cabin in the woods. *cue of scary music* --- Cleanse them. Cleanse the world of their ignorance and sin. Bathe them in the crimson of... [pauses] Am I on speakerphone?

Posted by: Mordecai the Creepy Gas Station Attendant at October 04, 2013 05:56 AM (/Crba)

60
That's right: Border Patrol is apparently non-essential in Obama's world. Or, he thinks it's a fitting punishment to open our borders as part of his "Obey Me, Congress, or Else" temper tantrum.

-----

Considering all the rumors of a GOP backstab on Amnesty while we're distracted, perhaps the border patrol IS unessential.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 04, 2013 05:56 AM (YmPwQ)

61 Wendy Davis, woman who ran filibuster over law supported by most Texans is running on the "don't let Austin become DC" platform? I thought she was running on the "In it for Texas" or " For the Children" ..... I'm totally voting for her now...... Wait, what??? Wakes up from one nightmare but still in another, damn.

Posted by: lindafell at October 04, 2013 05:56 AM (PGO8C)

62 Do we know Obama was not stalking her?  Did   she golf?

Posted by: Beagle at October 04, 2013 05:56 AM (sOtz/)

63 54 TSRBike,

Ah so she wants to reward the leftoids for pushing things to the brink...no wait she is "the only sane woman in the room"....

that's the ticket

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 05:56 AM (9jfyN)

64 The cops HAD to see the baby in the car before she put in in reverse and sped away. WTF?! Posted by: Tami at October 04, 2013 09:46 AM (bCEmE) I only watched the video once. Black car with black windows. They didn't bother looking because it was already determined. Anyone, everyone is a "potential" terrorist requiring shoot to kill first response. The new law enforcement code of conduct. Shoot to kill first; tell whatever story later. As participants in the excitement of selling profits, the media love their role as accomplices to authoritarianism. They count. We don't. Not even "real people" with accredited jobs, or laid off. U Can't Touch This old rap MC Hammer http://tinyurl.com/b45uydt

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 05:57 AM (MhA4j)

65 Well they are aspiring Olbermann's or Lupica's, yes I don't get that either.

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at October 04, 2013 05:57 AM (VYGs9)

66 They killed that woman in the car cause she was BLACK!

Posted by: Rev Al at October 04, 2013 05:57 AM (wR+pz)

67 Woman Who Continually Had Sexual Relations With An Underage Girl Sentenced To Prison She's not going to prison, she's going to jail for 4 months. When released, she has to do 2 years of house arrest. I predict she'll violate her house arrest conditions immediately. If she gets credit for the time she has already spent in jail before pleading guilty, she may be released immediately.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 05:57 AM (A/ga/)

68 Check out the new Boston Dynamics videos -- especially the wildcat (cheetah bot) and Atlas (humanoid) Boston Dynamics is the most cutting edge robotics company on the plane.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 04, 2013 05:57 AM (ZPrif)

69 45 Anna Puma,

and the will to do so....

they audited Ben Carson within a business day....

one day

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 05:58 AM (9jfyN)

70 Day 4 of shutdown: Vets are going to need wire cutters to visit WWII memorial. pic.twitter.com/Cyrm7OnLAp The Dems are begging for violence. Begging for it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 05:58 AM (IXrOn)

71 I thought she was running on the "In it for Texas" or " For the Children" .... "For Killing Childrens"

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 05:58 AM (xorT2)

72 >>Do we know Obama was not stalking her? Did she golf?

Please. Everyone knows what a stretch THAT would be.
She's a girl. Cooties, man.

Posted by: Reggie Love at October 04, 2013 05:58 AM (JRmiD)

73 Wendy Davis, woman who ran filibuster over law supported by most Texans is running on the "don't let Austin become DC" platform?
Well I've seen everything now. I await the ass kicking and liberal tears to satisfy my hunger.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 04, 2013 09:50 AM (GaqMa)

-----------

 

I heard an ad on the radio for her this morning. She's going to help bring jobs back to Texas and improve education. I had to laugh. As if Texas has been leading the nation in job loss. Still the retards in Austin love her.

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 04, 2013 05:59 AM (Zswg6)

74 State of Free Speech in Canada: Not Good http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/154312/mark-steyn-losing/stanley-kurtz

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at October 04, 2013 05:59 AM (EPcGF)

75 The Obama Memorial Statue is linked in my name.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 05:59 AM (/Crba)

76 Park Police Now Using Wire To Keep WW 2 Barricades In Place

What a petty sack of shit Barry is. Do even more work, spend even more money, to try and "prove" how NOT spending money is a calamity.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 04, 2013 05:59 AM (YVx8A)

77 Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 09:49 AM (MhA4j) You and Jesse Ventura would make a cute couple.

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 04, 2013 05:59 AM (ETWo2)

78 The Dems are begging for violence. Begging for it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 09:58 AM (IXrOn)



Have Marines from "8th and I" wheel the vets into the memorial.  Let's see who has the balls to start something.


Posted by: EC at October 04, 2013 05:59 AM (GQ8sn)

79 74 Darth Randall,

Well we have Peruvia the Dystopic "Teahadist" vacation spot...

and now we have Moonbatovia its neighbor for moonbats...

"Jobs" is "being on the dole" in Moonbatovia

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:00 AM (9jfyN)

80
Hulk Hogan pours his AARP-ready keister into a thong and rides a wrecking ball to promote new web hosting company Hostamania.

Video

http://tinyurl.com/oku3j5j


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 04, 2013 06:00 AM (kdS6q)

81 That lion cub looked really sad. It's obviously crying for its mother.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 06:00 AM (A/ga/)

82 Cops really need better tech to immobilize a car. This unarmed crazy lady didn't have to die. If they could just have disabled her car, this would have ended better. But a car's a weapon. If you can't disable it you have to shoot the driver.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 04, 2013 06:00 AM (ZPrif)

83 "Jobs" is "being on the dole" in Moonbatovia DoleOn Heights

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 06:01 AM (xorT2)

84 Fort Worth. How did you elect Wendy Davis? She has all the intelligence brain-dead bacterium. Really, WTF?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 06:01 AM (/PCJa)

85 A jail, huh. That's weird.

Posted by: Chicken on a Couch at October 04, 2013 06:01 AM (ukNFU)

86 Looks like precious needed more sleep today, Here's Obama's schedule for today:

11:15 am || Receives the Presidential Daily Briefing


Posted by: Reggie Love at October 04, 2013 06:01 AM (JRmiD)

87

Posted by: Mordecai the Creepy Gas Station Attendant at October 04, 2013 09:56 AM (/Crba)

----------------

 

Put me down for $50 on Sexy Witches.

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 04, 2013 06:02 AM (Zswg6)

88 Whoops! Found the mom!

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 06:02 AM (A/ga/)

89 Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 04, 2013 09:59 AM (ETWo2) Likely a better guy than you. But I'm lucky to already have the finest man as my better half.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 06:02 AM (MhA4j)

90 New York Times Does Single Payer Pivot We knew this was coming. Medicaid is the new Single Payer system. Watch how it transitions so.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 06:02 AM (IXrOn)

91 Cops really need better tech to immobilize a car. This unarmed crazy lady didn't have to die. If they could just have disabled her car, this would have ended better. If they would have released the car blocker on her instead of the cop car...

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 06:02 AM (xorT2)

92 These are the giant Chinese hornets of doom. Be afraid. Yes this is real.

http://is.gd/IMTfgq

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 06:03 AM (8sCoq)

93 Dang it, looks like a trip to the store.  I want an omelet, mushroom and cheese, and I have no eggs in the house.  Geez.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 06:03 AM (HEMX5)

94 The GOP should keep in mind that people negatively affected by the shutdown WERE GOING TO VOTE AGAINST YOU ANYWAY.

Posted by: X at October 04, 2013 06:03 AM (KHo8t)

95 75 Joffen,

Uh Joffen it's from 2007... Canada has an oil boom and told their star chamber fuck off....

we elected Chicago Jesus twice...

We're losing not Steyn

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:03 AM (9jfyN)

96 Hulk Hogan pours his AARP-ready keister into a thong and rides a wrecking ball to promote new web hosting company Hostamania. --- This is what happens when you leave your wife to bang one of your daughter's friends... You end up doing stupid crap because your wife's got all your money and has a 20-year old's balls on her chin.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 06:03 AM (/Crba)

97 BREAKING: Joseph Goebbels Assures German Public 'Gated Communities' are 'Totes Awesome.'

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at October 04, 2013 10:01 AM (tWmgi)



Did you ever see those p-shops of Ammanpour?



http://minx.cc/?post=155443



Posted by: EC at October 04, 2013 06:04 AM (GQ8sn)

98 Baby Lion Club Learning To Roar (video) awww the Lamb/Lion

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 06:04 AM (IXrOn)

99

Rage stroke time. Valu-rite city tonight.

 

 

Tonight? Yur doin' it wrong.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 04, 2013 06:04 AM (0HooB)

100 Can you imagine the thought process that it takes to support Abortion Barbi?

Wait. I take that back.

Because there is no "thought" put into it--it's blind hate of Republicans/"Go Team Dem!"

Because her whole reason for her being is "moar abortions!"

In Texas.

Where we've had several Premeditated Murder clinics shut down in the last few years because they're broke. (Don't buy the shit about how the new law shut them down, that's an excuse 'cause the law hadn't gone into effect.)

Not part of that story? How the public, clamoring for more abortions, stepped up and made sure those murder factories would stay open.

What I really want to know is: What in the world did they tell the Commie Castro of San Antone to keep him from running?



Posted by: RoyalOil at October 04, 2013 06:04 AM (VjL9S)

101

The  mommy-they-shot-to-death who thought Obama was stalking her was partly correct.  It was actually the NSA that was stalking her.

Posted by: Roy at October 04, 2013 06:04 AM (VndSC)

102 Though postpartum depression/psychosis is serious business, I sure hope Barky and Moochelle don't try to use it as a teachable moment.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 06:04 AM (A/ga/)

103 Could the GOP be winning the debt fight? If so, Boehner will soon put an end to it. Winning! Losing!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2013 06:04 AM (WjLUf)

104

Everything  about  the  Kenyan  mall  story  stinks.  Apparently  a  global network  of  Somali jihadis assembled  from  dozens  of  nations including many from the United States  under the less-than-competent eyes  of the *deep breath*  NSA, CIA, FBI, DNI, NRO, DHS,    MPD (among others), State Department, and various European spy and police agencies, but especially the US Justice Department's Sensitive Operations Review Committee.

 

 

Posted by: Beagle at October 04, 2013 06:05 AM (sOtz/)

105 Alright folks, get back to work, we gotta pay for these assclowns' welfare.

http://is.gd/jRXFVP

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 06:05 AM (/kI1Q)

106 89 Posted by: Mordecai the Creepy Gas Station Attendant at October 04, 2013 09:56 AM (/Crba) ---------------- Put me down for $50 on Sexy Witches. --- Just remember, you only get it if Sexy Witches are chosen. The difference between Witches and Sexy Witches are like the difference between an elephant and an elephant seal.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 06:05 AM (/Crba)

107 I only watched the video once. Black car with black windows. They didn't bother looking because it was already determined. Anyone, everyone is a "potential" terrorist requiring shoot to kill first response. ======= Didn't have black windows....I can see into her car in the video. They blocked her in behind her car, but no one thought to place a car in front of her vehicle?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 04, 2013 06:05 AM (bCEmE)

108 BREAKING: Joseph Goebbels Assures German Public 'Gated Communities' are 'Totes Awesome.'

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl

 

 

It hurts to laugh so much.

Posted by: Roy at October 04, 2013 06:05 AM (VndSC)

109 34 Wendy Davis, woman who ran filibuster over law supported by most Texans is running on the "don't let Austin become DC" platform? Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 04, 2013 09:50 AM (GaqMa) Sounds racist.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 06:06 AM (A/ga/)

110 104. the burden of a baby includes losing your mind Abort. Save sanity.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 06:06 AM (MhA4j)

111 The mommy-they-shot-to-death who thought Obama was stalking her was partly correct. It was actually the NSA that was stalking her. ACA (OCare) goons.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 06:06 AM (xorT2)

112 Oh yeah, that's right, " For killing Children!!" Sorry, my bad. If she improves education, i.e. raises taxes more, people might catch on to what she's really about. Wait, never mind, it's Austin. I live here, I should know better, hangs head. Hey, it's ACL!!! Go, Abortion Barbie, Go (away)!!!

Posted by: lindafell at October 04, 2013 06:06 AM (PGO8C)

113 106 Beagle,

They advocate limited government and the abolition of Ogabecare?

If not NSA et al could give six shits...

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:06 AM (9jfyN)

114 The ending of the distraught dental assistant at the White House is a tragedy for her family, but I can't see how the law enforcement officers could have distinguished between a crazy lady having a bad day and a crazy lady bomber. After she rammed the cop car to get away from the barrier, she showed aggression and violence, even if it was just panicked flight. It was headed for an abrupt ending at that point.

Posted by: losthusker at October 04, 2013 06:06 AM (PMVw8)

115 Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 10:03 AM (9jfyN) Thanks for pointing out my error. Can't believe I didn't see that.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at October 04, 2013 06:06 AM (EPcGF)

116 These are the giant Chinese hornets of doom.

Just pass a law banning them, amirite?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 06:07 AM (/kI1Q)

117 110 BREAKING: Joseph Goebbels Assures German Public 'Gated Communities' are 'Totes Awesome.' Posted by: The Obsidian Owl It hurts to laugh so much. --- I laugh about as much when I see people in my area wearing shirts reading "Angola - A Gated Community", referring to the state prison about 40 miles up the road from my house.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 06:07 AM (/Crba)

118 117 Joffen,

Nah no biggie we've all been there.....

I posted an article about out of control small government advocates disrupting the Democrats' natural birthright to rule....

it was from 1995

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:07 AM (9jfyN)

119

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2013 10:04 AM (WjLUf)

Not according to Chuck Todd, that's just the Fox News echo chamber lying to you (says the man on msnbc).

I'm a cynic, so I think the coin is still up in the air, the result unknown.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at October 04, 2013 06:08 AM (GaqMa)

120 New York Times Does Single Payer Pivot I recall some famous half-white dude saying that "Healthcare Reform" was a "necessary first step" to single payer, but that the ultimate object was definitely single payer. Now who was that? It's right on the tip of my tongue...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 06:08 AM (/PCJa)

121 At Least He'll Be Able To Park His Next Motorcycle In A Handicapped Spot Closed To The Store Driving without a license... Mieses also has 15 guilty findings for criminal offenses including distribution of cocaine, possession of a firearm without a permit, knowingly receiving stolen property, resisting arrest and several motor vehicle violations, court records show. If only we had a nice enclosed, barred place to put someone like this? Let's hope he never gets to go to a "store" for the rest of his life. But, I doubt that.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 06:08 AM (IXrOn)

122 HA! i picked the right winner for last nights game!!!!! moved up to 25th in my group!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 04, 2013 06:08 AM (8JJ6O)

123 >These are the giant Chinese hornets of doom.

Just pass a law banning them, amirite?



no, we're going to need flame throwers

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 06:08 AM (8sCoq)

124 75State of Free Speech in Canada: Not Good

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/154312/mark-steyn-losing/stanley-kurtz

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at October 04, 2013 09:59 AM (EPcGF)

 

That article was written in 2007

Posted by: Red Shirt at October 04, 2013 06:08 AM (FIDMq)

125 #75 That story is from 2007, Joffen, not today. Steyn won his case and the majority Conservative government repealed Section 13 although, unfortunately, federal and (worse) provincial HRCs still exist.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 04, 2013 06:09 AM (qnPg9)

126 Heh. I did not.

I refuse to think of these people as anything more than shoddy entertainers on the level of a talking mime.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at October 04, 2013 10:08 AM (tWmgi)


There were a couple of others that Wuzzadem had before he wigged out.  One of them was a shot of Pearl Harbor with the ships sinking and on fire.  Amanpour was saying something about how the US shouldn't let something like this make them lash out in response.

Posted by: EC at October 04, 2013 06:09 AM (GQ8sn)

127 Heard Levin last night on the way home, seems the POS in the white house wants to use the debt ceiling fight to take the power of the purse from congress, and unilaterally decide what the debt limit is.  Wonder if that would be enough to start an impeachment.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 04, 2013 06:10 AM (AskuI)

128 but I can't see how the law enforcement officers could have distinguished between a crazy lady having a bad day and a crazy lady bomber. After she rammed the cop car to get away from the barrier, As was said yesterday, boomers tend to boom at initial contact, not try for a second chance.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 06:10 AM (xorT2)

129 If she improves education, i.e. raises taxes more, people might catch on to what she's really about. Wait, never mind, it's Austin. Yeah, luckily it ain't Austin who gets to decide the Governor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 06:10 AM (/PCJa)

130 Now who was that? It's right on the tip of my tongue... Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 10:08 AM (/PCJa) I know it wasn't him, but every time I hear Jim Nantz's radio commercial about health care reform I have to change the station. Can't stand it. It's on ALL the time on AM 630and AM 580 in the DC area.

Posted by: Mainah at October 04, 2013 06:11 AM (659DL)

131 126 Jones in CO,

Oh lord...

Sven J Olafson Theater presents....

Alfred the Butler in "The Swarm"...

http://youtu.be/HlDf3X68FHk

Micro Riffs...Faux MST3k

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:11 AM (9jfyN)

132 Where ya headed in the land of pine trees, blueberries, and retirees?

Posted by: Mainah at October 04, 2013 09:51 AM (659DL)

 

Embden.  Northwest of Skowhegan.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 04, 2013 06:12 AM (zF6Iw)

133 Heard Levin last night on the way home, seems the POS in the white house wants to use the debt ceiling fight to take the power of the purse from congress, and unilaterally decide what the debt limit is. Wonder if that would be enough to start an impeachment.


I think so.

Posted by: EC at October 04, 2013 06:12 AM (GQ8sn)

134 EC, about re-branding Pearl Harbor.  From my blog.
http://tinyurl.com/9jorr4b

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 06:12 AM (HEMX5)

135 135 The Obsidian Owl,

Why if I didn't know any better I'd almost say some of us were laughing this was designed to be a clusterfuck since '09

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:13 AM (9jfyN)

136 @rorycooper  RT @morningmoneyben: Bet WH wants this blind quote back: "We are winning. It really doesn't matter to us how long the shutdown lasts."

@ChadPergram  House today debates 2 mini spending bills. 1 for FEMA costing $10.2 billion.The other is for WIC nutrition programs, costing $6.5 billion

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 04, 2013 06:13 AM (YjDyJ)

137 What is the purpose of the GOP?

Posted by: eman at October 04, 2013 06:13 AM (AO9UG)

138 137 EC,

It may well be enough to start a civil war.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:13 AM (9jfyN)

139 132 If she improves education, i.e. raises taxes more, people might catch on to what she's really about. Wait, never mind, it's Austin. Yeah, luckily it ain't Austin who gets to decide the Governor. --- My understanding is that Austin is an insane asylum with the entire rest of the state serving as armed guards.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 06:13 AM (/Crba)

140 I believe individuals possess certain inalienable rights that ought not be subject to the whim of the majority. Writers on Natural law regarded these rights as self evident. Among them are the rights of self defense, and the right to keep the fruits of your own labor. The corollary to this is that there ought to be a boundary of taxation which the Majority may not cross, whether they have the votes or not. Why must we constantly have to defend ourselves from these bastards who attempt to oppress us by confiscating the fruits of our labor? Where did this notion that they have a right to do such a thing ever enter into the public mindset? I contend that they do not, nor have they ever had a right to tax us beyond a certain amount. Majority be damned.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 04, 2013 06:13 AM (bb5+k)

141 EC, about re-branding Pearl Harbor. From my blog.


And Mogadishu was a humanitarian mission.

Posted by: EC at October 04, 2013 06:14 AM (GQ8sn)

142 Sorry for the reduncancy of #128, Joffen. And the guy who permalinked the story added a comment noting that he missed the original date and mistakenly thought it was current.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 04, 2013 06:14 AM (qnPg9)

143 MPPPP I hope you have a productive time up in that cabin.  Many good memories.

Now to go grocery shopping, make that omelet, and write for all its worth.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 06:14 AM (HEMX5)

144 140 Miss 80s Baby,

Indeed....

Boehner needs to pass spending on eveything but SCOAMFcare and he needs to be theatrical about carrying it to Reid

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:14 AM (9jfyN)

145 140 @rorycooper RT @morningmoneyben: Bet WH wants this blind quote back: "We are winning. It really doesn't matter to us how long the shutdown lasts." @ChadPergram House today debates 2 mini spending bills. 1 for FEMA costing $10.2 billion.The other is for WIC nutrition programs, costing $6.5 billion --- The hurricane (Sandy) giveth, the hurricane (Karen) taketh away.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 06:14 AM (/Crba)

146 ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US

Posted by: These are the giant Chinese hornets of doom at October 04, 2013 06:14 AM (VndSC)

147 150 ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US --- In AD2101, war was beginning...

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 06:15 AM (/Crba)

148 It may well be enough to start a civil war. Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 10:13 AM (9jfyN) If it would just wake up the stupid who voted for him, I would be content with that. The forces of Freedom and the forces of Oppression have been heading for a confrontation for quite some time.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 04, 2013 06:15 AM (bb5+k)

149 109. Tami, yes. A tragedy of errors given the poorest judgement call chain of events. Whether the guards saw the baby or did not see the baby. Everything they did was ill founded. But according to the new protocol that law enforcement younger personnel [ages 40 to 20 something] progressively wire their response to: CONFRONT, agitate the situation, shoot to kill first thing. Former NSA officer and author William B. Scott, "The Permit" http://tinyurl.com/ktswons

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 06:15 AM (MhA4j)

150 Whiny bitch over at Powerline--"Oh noez!! CBS poll finds public blames GOP more!"

Whatever bitch.

1) It's CBS
2) It's a poll
3) It's CBS
4) It's 44-38--with all the media pulling out all the stops for Team D
5) It's CBS
6) They had to lump Obama in with the Dems to get that result
7) It's CBS
Without looking, I'll bet it's "adults" and not "registered voters."
9) It's CBS

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 04, 2013 06:15 AM (VjL9S)

151 Morning all.

Posted by: Don Corleone at October 04, 2013 06:15 AM (1RQeV)

152 It may well be enough to start a civil war.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 10:13 AM (9jfyN)



I do not believe he would be that stupid to attempt it.  But then again, he's the dumbest Lightworker we've ever had.

Posted by: EC at October 04, 2013 06:16 AM (GQ8sn)

153

>Heard Levin last night on the way home, seems the POS in the white house
wants to use the debt ceiling fight to take the power of the purse from
congress, and unilaterally decide what the debt limit is. Wonder if
that would be enough to start an impeachment.<

 

 

Has a President ever been perp-walked out of the Oval Office in handcuffs before?

Posted by: Roy at October 04, 2013 06:16 AM (VndSC)

154 Embden. Northwest of Skowhegan. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 04, 2013 10:12 AM (zF6Iw) Cool. Have a good trip!

Posted by: Mainah at October 04, 2013 06:17 AM (659DL)

155

>>Can you imagine the thought process that it takes to support Abortion Barbi?
.

.I have an idea that women who are the most violent rabid abortion supporters are women who had an abortion when they were very young and now regret it very much.  The only way for them to feel better about is to scream abortion for anyone anywhere and at anytime to make up for the mistake they made in their younger days and somehow in their minds that makes it seem OK for what they did when they were younger.

 

Just an idea I had floating around for a while now, because any other alternative is just downright sick.

Posted by: Registered Voter at October 04, 2013 06:17 AM (MZGhy)

156 Jay Carney freely said yesterday in the press briefing that the administration does not believe it has the constitutional authority to take such action.


Until they do.

Posted by: EC at October 04, 2013 06:17 AM (GQ8sn)

157 158 The Obsidian Owl,

and if the public overtly says "what Constitution" I am freed up to do a lot of things I have not indulged.

There *is* a rule book...it constrains HIM and ME

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:18 AM (9jfyN)

158 Taranto's use of the word maladroitness in defining this administrations actions during the "shutdown" is the understatement word of the day.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 06:18 AM (IXrOn)

159 Health emergency: On eve of Obamacare, Britain's NHS needs political therapy- http://bit.ly/GAxgrRF

"LONDON — In early September, Julie Bailey was settling into her new home. Weeks before, she had been chased out of her town after a succession of death threats, the desecration of her mother’s grave and the collapse of her small business.

No, Bailey isn't the star witness in a mob trial. She's just an average British citizen who became a lightning rod for exposing failures of the country's vaunted National Health Service after her mother died while in its care."

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 04, 2013 06:18 AM (YjDyJ)

160 Park Police Now Using Wire To Keep WW 2 Barricades In Place What is it with the Obama Administration and doubling down on Stupid?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 04, 2013 06:18 AM (sFQyf)

161 My understanding is that Austin is an insane asylum with the entire rest of the state serving as armed guards. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 10:13 AM (/Crba) Has anyone else noticed the correlation with Wealth and Liberalism? Families which acquire enough money lose comprehension of how money is created and acquired. Especially second or later generations.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 04, 2013 06:19 AM (bb5+k)

162 Federalist 58. The House of Representatives cannot only refuse, but they alone can propose, the supplies requisite for the support of government. They, in a word, hold the purse that powerful instrument by which we behold, in the history of the British Constitution, an infant and humble representation of the people gradually enlarging the sphere of its activity and importance, and finally reducing, as far as it seems to have wished, all the overgrown prerogatives of the other branches of the government. This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure.

Posted by: Mainah at October 04, 2013 06:19 AM (659DL)

163 137. "Heard Levin last night on the way home" Yes. And he made an even stronger point. / someone here would couple Levin with Ventura.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 06:19 AM (MhA4j)

164 165 Miss 80s Baby,

WOT she wants us off the teat do she?

//Twist, Oliver Twist

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:19 AM (9jfyN)

165 Her mother said she was fired for using a handicap parking spot at her job. The doc that employed her said she was fired because patients complained that she was too rough with them. I'll go with the doc.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 06:19 AM (A/ga/)

166 I do not believe he would be that stupid to attempt it. But then again, he's the dumbest Lightworker we've ever had. --- I believe he's stupid enough to attempt it. This dumbf*ck just tried to intimidate Wall Street into a manufactured DOW loss the other day to make it seem like the shutdown was having an adverse economic effect.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 06:20 AM (/Crba)

167


Has a President ever been perp-walked out of the Oval Office in handcuffs before?

 

Not to my knowledge. But  it'd sure make a nice .gif animation, wouldn't it?

 

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 04, 2013 06:20 AM (0HooB)

168 Yeah, luckily it ain't Austin who gets to decide the Governor.
=======
Remember the Dems from last time?

"This popular mayor of Houston is going to ride that power-base to victory; all those "good" voters of Houston will swamp the hicks out in Hicksville!"

Now they've a one-trick pony from Cowtown who has an even smaller base of support to pull from.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 04, 2013 06:20 AM (VjL9S)

169 But according to the new protocol that law enforcement younger personnel [ages 40 to 20 something] progressively wire their response to: CONFRONT, agitate the situation, shoot to kill first thing. Former NSA officer and author William B. Scott, "The Permit" http://tinyurl.com/ktswons Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 10:15 AM (MhA4j) Alrighty then, they got that down pat. The other thing I notice from the video...there were a shit ton of people out and about near that shooting.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 04, 2013 06:20 AM (bCEmE)

170

The Obama Memorial Statue is linked in my name.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 09:59 AM (/Crba)


 

Or the rubble pile at the base of Mt. Rushmore.

http://tinyurl.com/oqo8std

Posted by: ExSnipe at October 04, 2013 06:21 AM (57ubW)

171 Families which acquire enough money lose comprehension of how money is created and acquired. Especially second or later generations.



Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 04, 2013 10:19 AM (bb5+k)

-

People who don't    earn their own money don't understand it, nor respect what it took to get it.  Every trust fund baby is a walking illustration.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 04, 2013 06:21 AM (AskuI)

172

Those hornets  are something else.  I saw a documentary on their war against bees and how the bees try to ball up around them in a last-ditch effort to save the  hive.   The hornets  are comparable to a T-Rex or something  if bees were human.   Less combat than massacre.    

 

I hate those little red stinging wasps which all come out at once.   No more complaining about that.  

 

Nature just straight up tries to murder you a lot of the time.  Communing with it: overrated.  

Posted by: Beagle at October 04, 2013 06:21 AM (sOtz/)

173 Park Police Now Using Wire To Keep WW 2 Barricades In Place What is it with the Obama Administration and doubling down on Stupid? Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 04, 2013 10:18 AM (sFQyf) With the MSM behind them, they see no down side to being assholes. And we all know the idiotic 52% that put them in Office hears nothing, sees nothing, understands nothing, and drools when they talk

Posted by: Don Corleone at October 04, 2013 06:21 AM (1RQeV)

174 >>As was said yesterday, boomers tend to boom at initial contact, not try for a second chance. Tend to? Is that the new litmus test for a cop to stop someone who is wielding a deadly weapon? Here's another story from yesterday. Didn't happen in DC so little coverage. Cop stops a guy for speeding. Guy has not 1 but 3 kids in his car. Guy gets out of his car and starts blazing away at the cop and actually hits the cop. Cop kills him. Murderous thug cop? What's the rule now, cops can't shoot until someone actually hits them? http://tinyurl.com/q7vpyo6 There is no question that some cops overreact. What happened in DC yesterday was not an example of that.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 06:21 AM (g1DWB)

175 "The National Park Service, which has somehow become the unofficial goon squad of American liberalism..." - Jonah Goldberg Yeah, and, how/when did that happen, exactly? Not exactly the idea of our properties' guardians that I got in my mid-last-century youth.

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 04, 2013 06:21 AM (2o9a+)

176 Especially second or later generations. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 04, 2013 10:19 AM (bb5+k) Trust fund vs. Trust buster /Bull Moose! ...inbreeding is not healthy.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 06:21 AM (MhA4j)

177 So, I've been watching Sleepy Hollow (but I'm a couple weeks behind), and I freaking love Ichabod. We watched episode 2 last night, and hearing him get upset about being detained when he had not been charged with any crime ("I'm a free man, and anything that impinges on that Liberty without just cause is tyranny!") and the tax on his donut ("A 10% tax on baked goods. You do know the Revolution started over a 2% tax.") and a couple of other lines I don't remember off the top of my head make me think that they at least got someone who understands the founding documents to help write Ichabod's character.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 06:21 AM (/PCJa)

178 >>>>Can you imagine the thought process that it takes to support Abortion Barbi?

They participate in Slut Walks, think dressing up as a vagina to demand free contraceptives and abortion is awesome, and then get all freaked when they hear a songs that contains a repetitions of the line "I know you want it."
Idiots.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2013 06:22 AM (JRmiD)

179 A mind is a terrible thing to waste. I just love to fuck with the visitor pedestrians, especially the ones with a stick up their asses... While Jack and I were in line getting a Joe at the beanery yesterday, in East El LAy Mexifornia, I just had to mention that it was a plot to get illegals too sign up for Driver licenses, that way the Tea Party will be able to find them and deport them when they regain the Presidency. And it looks like they are going to win it all. The silence was deafening.

Posted by: Kudwig olsen at October 04, 2013 06:22 AM (3GuQx)

180 The Quiet Man @57 has the thread winner.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at October 04, 2013 06:22 AM (a5ljo)

181 People who don't earn their own money don't understand it, nor respect what it took to get it. Every trust fund baby is a walking illustration.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 04, 2013 10:21 AM (AskuI)

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See also, multi-generational welfare families.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 04, 2013 06:22 AM (AskuI)

182 Those hornets are something else. I saw a documentary on their war against bees and how the bees try to ball up around them in a last-ditch effort to save the hive. The hornets are comparable to a T-Rex or something if bees were human.Less combat than massacre.


Here's a video of a handful of hornets taking down an entire beehive in minutes.

http://youtu.be/JDSf3Kshq1M

Posted by: EC at October 04, 2013 06:23 AM (GQ8sn)

183 . .I have an idea that women who are the most violent rabid abortion supporters are women who had an abortion when they were very young and now regret it very much. The only way for them to feel better about is to scream abortion for anyone anywhere and at anytime to make up for the mistake they made in their younger days and somehow in their minds that makes it seemOK for what they did when they were younger. Just an idea I had floating around for a while now, because any other alternative is just downright sick. Posted by: Registered Voter at October 04, 2013 10:17 AM (MZGhy) I agree with this assessment, and I likewise apply the same logic to many advocates of Homosexuality. Numerous studies have demonstrated that among the ranks of admitted homosexuals is an all too common occurrence of molestation when young. They have to constantly push and advocate for it to convince themselves that there is nothing wrong with it. Reassurance by numbers, in a fashion.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 04, 2013 06:23 AM (bb5+k)

184 Open enrollment just started at the firm. $802 per month for Blue Cross family coverage, up from $600. No mention of Zerocare at all. I suppose that I'm getting off easy. This time..

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 04, 2013 06:23 AM (YmPwQ)

185 I think it's too early to say that lethal force was needed yesterday in DC. ‏@RealJamesWoods Mom: Capitol chase suspect had post-partum depression http://usat.ly/1fNX7ga via @USATODAY "shot and killed FLEEING her car..."

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:23 AM (5H6zj)

186  137 EC,

It may well be enough to start a civil war.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 10:13 AM (9jfyN)

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I posit that we are in a "cold" civil war right now.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 04, 2013 06:23 AM (32Ze2)

187 From the Taranto/WSJ piece: "Director Francis Collins said about 200 patients who otherwise would be admitted to the NIH Clinical Center for clinical trials each week will be turned away. This includes about 30 children, most of them cancer patients, he said." The Washington Post's left-liberal Wonkblog picked up the story: "As long as the government is shut down, the National Institutes of Health will turn away roughly 200 patients each week from its clinical research center, including children with cancer." How on earth does this compute with the hundreds of millions of "obamaMONEY!" liv's? If a good chunk of the American people think that: 1) money is free, and the government an endless supply of cash 2) we can always print more money crowd 3) cynical view of - we know they have the money; they have it for every thing else they want - most Americans don't trust the government 4) JEF says EVERYTHING'S FINE! The economy is growing! We've added jobs! There is no deficit! etc How can the Dems think this will work out for them?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 06:24 AM (IXrOn)

188 JackStraw, 20 cop cars with guns blazing to 1 car driven by unarmed panicking mother with child. The Permit http://tinyurl.com/ktswons

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 06:24 AM (MhA4j)

189 I do think that all of these incidents in which mental illness is being invoked are, when coupled with Obamacare, part of a movement to start registering, tracking, monitoring, and controlling political enemies. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:24 AM (5H6zj)

190 and if the public overtly says "what Constitution" I am freed up to do a lot of things I have not indulged. There *is* a rule book...it constrains HIM and ME Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 10:18 AM (9jfyN) As that Army Ranger said about confronting some local gang bangers: "Myself and all my friends are all trained and experienced killers. The Current status quo does a lot more to protect them from us than it does to protect us from them. "

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 04, 2013 06:25 AM (bb5+k)

191 192 Truck Monkey,

I've said the same...

at the point Jugears takes the power of the purse he becomes Emperor....

that is my Red Line...at that point the Red Line is crossed.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:25 AM (9jfyN)

192 “The world says: "You have needs -- satisfy them. You have as much right as the rich and the mighty. Don't hesitate to satisfy your needs; indeed, expand your needs and demand more." This is the worldly doctrine of today. And they believe that this is freedom. The result for the rich is isolation and suicide, for the poor, envy and murder.”

“And what's strange, what would be marvelous, is not that God should really exist; the marvel is that such an idea, the idea of the necessity of God, could enter the head of such a savage, vicious beast as man.”

Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 06:25 AM (HEMX5)

193 Taranto's use of the word maladroitness in defining this administrations actions during the "shutdown" is the understatement word of the day. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 10:18 AM (IXrOn) Malevolent incompetence would be closer to the truth.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 04, 2013 06:26 AM (bb5+k)

194
Meanwhile in the Golden State, the GOP -- well, the GOP:

As California Republicans gather in Anaheim this weekend for their biannual convention, they will prepare for an election in which the party is likely to all but abstain from the gubernatorial race and other statewide contests, which are widely considered out of RepublicansÂ’ reach.

Instead, they will focus their limited resources on congressional races and a small group of legislative contests in Southern California and the Central Valley. If Republicans can hold the seats they now occupy and pick up a handful of Democratic-held districts, the party within a year could pull itself back from near-irrelevancy in the Legislature.

http://tinyurl.com/ng587dg

Grim details at the link.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 04, 2013 06:26 AM (kdS6q)

195 Yes, nature is trying to kill us. Colorado took 5 more lives recently- all members of the same family. They were hiking up to a waterfall when a cliff face above them came loose and buried them.

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 06:26 AM (8sCoq)

196 Park Police Now Using Wire To Keep WW 2 Barricades In Place

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Bangalores.   Bring up some Bangalore's.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 04, 2013 06:27 AM (nELVU)

197 Was she shot while still driving the car? Or was she shot while getting out of the car?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 04, 2013 06:27 AM (ZPrif)

198 I think if I hear this bullshit about people not getting paid one more time, I'm going to punch somebody. They're getting paid. Stop fucking lying!

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 06:27 AM (A/ga/)

199

Giant Chinese Hornets of Doom opened for The Good Rats in Sheboyban back in 1983

Posted by: Bigby's Hockey Glove at October 04, 2013 06:27 AM (3ZtZW)

200 185. Posted by: Kudwig olsen at October 04, 2013 10:22 AM (3GuQx) encore!

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 06:27 AM (MhA4j)

201 Fuck Nature.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 04, 2013 06:27 AM (ZPrif)

202 for clarity I am not advocating anything happen to any politician directly....

but why not rob a bank?

The money is no longer a deposit of trust and the faith of the American people...

why not steal from the utilities?

In essence at that point the civil compact is broken as is every justification for Federal economic oversight....

Barack Obama will have stolen 5 trillion dollars at that point...

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:28 AM (9jfyN)

203

So the government  'shutdown'   actually   means  militarizing   various national monuments?  Seems expensive and the opposite of a shutdown.   More like a takeover.  

Posted by: Beagle at October 04, 2013 06:28 AM (sOtz/)

204 >>I do think that all of these incidents in which mental illness is being invoked are, when coupled with Obamacare, part of a movement to start registering, tracking, monitoring, and controlling political enemies.

Once they have access to our medical records there will be no end to the uses they will dream up for tat data. Such as checking medical records for mental issues/medications as part of gun permit background check. They've also done a good job of laying the groundwork for claiming soldiers w/PSTD shouldn't have guns, and oh yeah, every soldier has PSTD.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2013 06:28 AM (JRmiD)

205 179 Park Police Now Using Wire To Keep WW 2 Barricades In Place


What is it with the Obama Administration and doubling down on Stupid?

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They're doubling down on stupid, alright. The stupidity of the public. Too many people, either LIVs or LINVs, think that it's Boehner and/or the GOP who is ordering this. And even if Obama is ordering it, he has no choice because of the GOP shutdown.

I'm rapidly descending back in to the depression I felt after the election last year.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 04, 2013 06:28 AM (YmPwQ)

206 198 Anna Puma,

Yup...even Wordy Russians got the concept....

Obama wants to usher in "anything goes?"

Look for the rule of law to die in about a year...tops.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:29 AM (9jfyN)

207 Tend to? Is that the new litmus test for a cop to stop someone who is wielding a deadly weapon?

Here's another story from yesterday. Didn't happen in DC so little coverage. Cop stops a guy for speeding. Guy has not 1 but 3 kids in his car. Guy gets out of his car and starts blazing away at the cop and actually hits the cop. Cop kills him.

Murderous thug cop? What's the rule now, cops can't shoot until someone actually hits them?

http://tinyurl.com/q7vpyo6

There is no question that some cops overreact. What happened in DC yesterday was not an example of that.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 10:21 AM (g1DWB)

 

I don't see how you can equate a woman who was shot after her car was stopped to a man who was shot during a gunfight.

 

 

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2013 06:29 AM (TpXEI)

208


>>>So the government 'shutdown' actually means militarizing various national monuments?

 

all ur monuments are belong to us?

Posted by: Bigby's Hockey Glove at October 04, 2013 06:29 AM (3ZtZW)

209 Don't be depressed.Just shrug and get on with your life.The reckoning for the political class is coming.

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2013 06:30 AM (9XBK2)

210 The USA is an empire pretending to be a republic.

Posted by: eman at October 04, 2013 06:30 AM (AO9UG)

211 Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 10:21 AM (g1DWB) You do know that once a suspect abandons their weapon, authorization for use of deadly force goes away, yes? So if a bad guy is in a stand-off with a cop, and bad guy has a gun, cop is authorized to use deadly force (actually, he isn't- not until the bad guy actually tries to shoot). Now, there are lots of jots and tittles around that, but it's a good rule of thumb. However, if the bad guy throws his gun away, the cop no longer gets to shoot- even if the suspect flees. He can chase, but not shoot. (again: jots and tittles). In this case, the deadly weapon was a car. Once she abandoned the car, she had relinquished her deadly weapon. In general (jots & tittles) the cops should not have had authorization to fire at that point. I'm sorry, but I don't accept the current Police State as the Right Way. To my knowledge, she was never actually a danger to anyone except herself (and her child), and she certainly wasn't one once she stopped the car and tried to run away. DC is not a war-zone. Cops are not Marines or Soldiers.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 06:30 AM (/PCJa)

212 I went down to the WW2 memorial on Wednesday afternoon. The vets were gone, the barricades were back in place and they were wired. It looks like they used the same safety wire that is used to keep nuts and bolts from shaking loose in high-performance engines, so a small wire cutter would be all you need to cut it.

If a guy wanted to do something like that.

Posted by: Top.Man. at October 04, 2013 06:30 AM (jDGrb)

213 I'm telling you it's World War D out there. Instead of Zombies, it's Dummies who are going rabid. Democrats want chaos. Democrats are promoting all this angst and hatred because they know how to capitalize on these "news events."

Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 04, 2013 06:31 AM (BUcLz)

214 Following the cancellation of the military airshow at Miramar Marine Base, civilians stepped up to carry out the airshow in private planes at their own expense. Now the Department of Defense has canceled that, too. According to the Los Angeles Times, the military involvement in the airshow was canceled once sequestration took effect in the Spring of this year. Following that cancellation, "military officials... insisted... the Miramar show would continue with civilian planes and pilots and with 'static displays' on the ground of Marine fixed-wing and rotary aircraft. Marines would also be ready to explain the [aircraft specifics] to air show visitors." But on October 3, Marine officials confirmed the private air show was canceled due to the federal government's shutdown. The Miramar Air Show is "often billed as the most heavily attended in the nation," but even a privatized version of it will not be allowed to happen as long as the government's doors are closed. Keep in mind that sequestration started rolling on August 2, 2011, when President Obama signed sequestration cuts into law. Horrible: I was stationed at Mirarmar for a few weeks and that Air Show is huge and a huge boost to the economy also. obama is a vindictive fuck

Posted by: Don Corleone at October 04, 2013 06:31 AM (1RQeV)

215 216 Eman,

and MomJeans is gonna break the illusion....

we get to throw tantrums too

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:31 AM (9jfyN)

216 Here's another story from yesterday. Didn't happen in DC so little coverage. Cop stops a guy for speeding. Guy has not 1 but 3 kids in his car. Guy gets out of his car and starts blazing away at the cop and actually hits the cop. Cop kills him. Murderous thug cop? What's the rule now, cops can't shoot until someone actually hits them? Where was the boom? If your original premise is car bomber, bring a second story about car bombers. BTW, the lady WAS UNARMED. Doesn't even equate to your second story.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 06:31 AM (xorT2)

217 181 "The National Park Service, which has somehow become the unofficial goon squad of American liberalism..." - Jonah Goldberg Yeah, and, how/when did that happen, exactly? Not exactly the idea of our properties' guardians that I got in my mid-last-century youth. Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 04, 2013 10:21 AM (2o9a+) The NPS including LEO went leftard a long time ago. They even have a gay ranger association. They have to sign furlough orders but are being ordered to work. So, there is no reason to close any parks.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 06:32 AM (A/ga/)

218 If she got out I don't see why they couldn't taser her.Perhaps they thought she had a bomb strapped to her.

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2013 06:32 AM (9XBK2)

219 there will be no end to the uses they will dream up for tat data.
The mandatory tattooed i.d. numbers will come later. ;^)

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 04, 2013 06:32 AM (qnPg9)

220 They've also done a good job of laying the groundwork for claiming soldiers w/PSTD shouldn't have guns, and oh yeah, every soldier has PSTD. ---- And every mom has post-partum depression. In all seriousness, this menopause crap has made me a little susceptible to panic attacks. They aren't so frequent that I can't manage them, but in the current atmosphere I'm loathe to get a prescription for anti-anxiety meds.

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:32 AM (5H6zj)

221 220 Don Corleone,

Look AAFES on Post has signs saying "we're not shut down"...

professional grade signs...ie this IS Kabuki

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:33 AM (9jfyN)

222 >>The mandatory tattooed i.d. numbers will come later. ;^) RFIDs

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:33 AM (5H6zj)

223 Barack Obama will have stolen 5 trillion dollars at that point...

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 10:28 AM (9jfyN)

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Yeah, but he's not going to default on it. He's good for the money. Just ask him. HAhahahahahahaha!

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 04, 2013 06:33 AM (Zswg6)

224

You do know that once a suspect abandons their weapon, authorization for use of deadly force goes away, yes?

 

Apparently the cops get to chase the person down and shoot them if it's near the upper crust of America.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2013 06:33 AM (TpXEI)

225 I don't know if the Capital Police should have fired on her or not. We don't know enough yet, but anyway, I am not going to lose to much sleep over it.

Posted by: Don Corleone at October 04, 2013 06:33 AM (1RQeV)

226 The very same people who are closing monuments and toilets for octogenarian veterans are going to be tasked with providing you health care.  Think about that for a minute and try and tell me that they won't deny you care......

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 04, 2013 06:33 AM (32Ze2)

227 224 If she got out I don't see why they couldn't taser her.Perhaps they thought she had a bomb strapped to her. --- But even then how does shooting her help?

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:33 AM (5H6zj)

228

>>>I went down to the WW2 memorial on Wednesday afternoon. The vets were gone, the barricades were back in place and they were wired. It looks like they used the same safety wire that is used to keep nuts and bolts from shaking loose in high-performance engines, so a small wire cutter would be all you need to cut it.<<<

 

 

A flamethrower would be far more awesome. One of those old WWII vintage ones.  Get one of the vets to use it. They probably are the  only  ones who know how  they  work.

Posted by: Roy at October 04, 2013 06:34 AM (VndSC)

229 Obama can't win unless there is pain,and the pain is blamed on Republicans.He's taking care of the former and the MFM is taking care of the latter(trying anyway).

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2013 06:34 AM (9XBK2)

230 I try not to get depressed. Usually I'm the stereotypical conservative "happy warrior". Now I'm turning into the "wingnut" that they've always accused me of being.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 04, 2013 06:35 AM (YmPwQ)

231 You do know the Revolution started over a 2% tax.") and a couple of other lines I don't remember off the top of my head make me think that they at least got someone who understands the founding documents to help write Ichabod's character. Digging Sleepy Hollow at the moment.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 06:35 AM (xorT2)

232 Exactly. Obama provides the pain, the Media provides the blame. Rinse and repeat as necessary.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 04, 2013 06:35 AM (ZPrif)

233 Posted by: Registered Voter at October 04, 2013 10:17 AM (MZGhy)
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It's a base instinct: If everyone is a sinner, if everyone will sin like me, then my sins aren't so bad.*

God messes that up, angers them, puts the lie to their rationalization; what with being sin-free and all.

So: Everyone must sin but God does not exist.

Hey, no one said they were logically consistent people.

*Which is stupid. No one ever said, "the more I sin, the happier I am." And for sins, I mean not the religious but all that behavior which debases or is ruinous.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 04, 2013 06:36 AM (VjL9S)

234 Yes, fuck Nature: So THIS happened last night... #snow #utah pic.twitter.com/Xmv6sLOcBz

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:36 AM (5H6zj)

235

 If she got out I don't see why they couldn't taser her.Perhaps they thought she had a bomb strapped to her.

 

To be on the safe side, they should set up sharp shooters and just shoot at anybody who comes near the Capitol.

 

We'll all be much safer.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2013 06:36 AM (TpXEI)

236 Cheese hornets of doom.

Sorry, new glasses, if I'm not sitting properly, the words are all blurry.

Posted by: Not buyin' it at October 04, 2013 06:36 AM (/7zt4)

237 233 If you kill her she can't manually detonate,though I suppose she could have had a dead man switch.I don't know,I wasn't there,was she yelling she had a bomb or something?Don't know the whole story.

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2013 06:37 AM (9XBK2)

238 Like I said earlier, Valurite and Hobo steaks on tap for the weekend.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 04, 2013 06:37 AM (YmPwQ)

239 I like Sleepy Hollow, but I much prefer when he's in dream/flashback mode over being in the 21st Century. I'm up to episode 8 of Walking Dead, Season 3. Last few eps were excessively gruesome/gory, so the next few are probably more story-driven.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 04, 2013 06:38 AM (ZshNr)

240 AlextheChick if they have the digital keys to read your email, they have the digital keys to plant emails. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 09:52 AM (HEMX5) Well crap. I didn't even think about that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 04, 2013 06:38 AM (VtjlW)

241 An unarmed black woman suffering from post-partum depression with a baby in her car, chased down by the cops on Pennsylvania Avenue and shot multiple times, killing her.

Why isn't the meeja exploiting exploring this angle?

Does any one of you doubt that if Romney was President, this would be held up as Trayvon II?

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 04, 2013 06:39 AM (wtvvX)

242 We have a dusting of snow here in Metro Denver this morning

ah, 7 months of winter about to get underway

I gotta get outta here

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 06:39 AM (8sCoq)

243

>>Yes, nature is trying to kill us. Colorado took 5 more lives recently- all members of the same family. They were hiking up to a waterfall when a cliff face above them came loose and buried them.

.

.That was me.

Posted by: Frakking at October 04, 2013 06:39 AM (MZGhy)

244 I like Sleepy Hollow, but I much prefer when he's in dream/flashback mode over being in the 21st Century. So far it's mostly just fun. I try not to put too much thought into it. But I was just really impressed that Ichabod was totally "Dude. Freedom. Remember that stuff?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 06:39 AM (/PCJa)

245 Yep, if it was an eeeevil white man in the White House, the media would be all over this. Al Sharpton would be marching.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 04, 2013 06:39 AM (ZPrif)

246 Blocking national parks is one thing, but his actions are a lot more reckless an mendacious than that with his attempt to destabilize the market, letting illegal aliens (including criminals) walk across the border, and then Feinstein announcing that most of our intelligence agents have been furloughed. It wasn't that long ago he was using Trayvon to agitate for a race war.

Every worst case scenario, worst fear that Obama really wants to take us down and/or spark some sort of civil war seems to be coming true.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2013 06:39 AM (JRmiD)

247 Yes, we don't know enough. We probably will never know enough. My money is on the surviving girl getting a nice settlement -- quietly, months from now. My gut tells me LEOs over-reacted because of the atmosphere generated by the Democrats' violent rhetoric directed at conservatives. Yes, I went there.

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:39 AM (5H6zj)

248 >>I don't see how you can equate a woman who was shot after her car was stopped to a man who was shot during a gunfight. The shots started when after she rammed the gate, hit a secret service officer with her car and went off on a high speed run toward the Capital. We have no idea when she was shot, if the car was moving or not or how she was acting. It's sad that she obviously has mental issues. Reports are now that schizophrenia meds were found in her apartment so this may be a bit more than postpartum depression. But in a time when DC is on heightened alert for terror attacks, at a time when elected representatives are calling other elected representatives terrorists, suicide bombers, hostage takers, etc., at a time when a rep reports that he had been accosted by a crazy woman on the street over the shutdown, at a time when another crazy bastard went onto a Navy base and killed 12 people, I'm not a bit surprised that the cops shot a woman who was using a deadly weapon in a reckless manner after she rammed a gate in front of the WH, hit a secret service agent and led cops on a high speed chase that ended right in front of the Capital.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 06:40 AM (g1DWB)

249 >Why isn't the meeja exploiting exploring this angle?


every story is viewed thru the prism of 'does this help 0bama?'

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 06:40 AM (8sCoq)

250 238 Flatbush Joe,

I am full up on pain...looking forward to giving some back.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:40 AM (9jfyN)

251 Inconsistency seems to be a pattern with some posters here. If the exact same actions took place yesterday and it was found to be a Muslim male driving you would be posting sarcastic crap about how he got what he deserved. Not that would be wrong but that just like the left it seems positions are frequently all relative .

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 04, 2013 06:40 AM (f4Je0)

252 254 Quite likely.

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2013 06:40 AM (9XBK2)

253 @239 Obsidian Owl: Plan for the worst and hope for the best.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 04, 2013 06:40 AM (wtvvX)

254 I gotta get outta here Texas has room. Also usually only 1 day of Winter.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 06:40 AM (/PCJa)

255 AlextheChick if they have the digital keys to read your email, they have the digital keys to plant emails. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 09:52 AM (HEMX5) Well crap. I didn't even think about that. AtC, about that threatening email you sent to... --NSA

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 06:40 AM (xorT2)

256 I really don't appreciate govt agencies being used to threaten political adversaries.
I had once never even thought of OUR govt being a threat to everyday citizens.
I hate that now i'm concerned with their power and lack of integrity to draw lines within their own structures.
I even see regular employees use excuses to Why they won't argue against their govt agency because they know their job is only safe from threat of firing or pension loss if they go along to get along.
if they can't even find the will to assist american citizens supposedly a Free people. what are we all looking forward to with progressives in power ?

we're are the heros i read about as a child?
i used to admire Petraeus , Ham etc. Now i see no one is a hero for the citizen, it's become harsh for me to acknowledge this.
personally devastating really.

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 06:41 AM (nqBYe)

257 Muslim males have quite the track record.

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2013 06:41 AM (9XBK2)

258 I also like Sleepy Hollow because of Ichabod's references to taxation, etc.


Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2013 06:41 AM (JRmiD)

259 Different situations elicit different reactions. This is not inconsistency.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 04, 2013 06:41 AM (ZshNr)

260 where are the hero's*

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 06:41 AM (nqBYe)

261 242 Bevel L,

What the fuck are outsiders doing in District One anyway?

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:42 AM (9jfyN)

262 Meanwhile in the Golden State, the GOP -- well, the GOP:
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They've only themselves to blame.

Instead of standing for something, they whole-hog embraced Dem Lite.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 04, 2013 06:42 AM (VjL9S)

263 You'd almost think there is one anonymous patriot inside this administration that is purposefully telling the NPS to close up things around the country.

Then you realize the hubris of this group and accept that they are quadrupling down on idiocy.

They've made it clear at least through unnamed sources that they are winning...if that is actually the case then wire cutters really won't matter against this administration.

Posted by: H Badger at October 04, 2013 06:42 AM (n/0Nw)

264 255 >>I don't see how you can equate a woman who was shot after her car was stopped to a man who was shot during a gunfight. ---- The shots started when after she rammed the gate, hit a secret service officer with her car and went off on a high speed run toward the Capital. ----- Funny that in the video I saw she had a chance to run over many officers and didn't. I am not satisfied that we understand the timeline, particularly of this "ramming" which I still haven't seen. What I saw was her evading police who were on foot and hitting a barrier - but not a person - during that process. So I still want to know the sequence of events that led to the injuries and her death.

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:42 AM (5H6zj)

265 sorry about that comment.
i probably should have kept my grief to myself

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 06:43 AM (nqBYe)

266

>>>Just shrug and get on with your life.The reckoning for the political class is coming.

 

If everyone shrugs then there is no reckoning coming. Just sayin'

Posted by: Bigby's Hockey Glove at October 04, 2013 06:43 AM (3ZtZW)

267 Oh gosh! That Chelsea Clinton is amazing. I think I'm in love.

[see the sidebar]

Posted by: Fawning LIV at October 04, 2013 06:43 AM (/kU/5)

268 Her being wackadoodle, I can buy. I can also buy her being scared shitless when guns were drawn and shots were fired, which happened twice in separate locations.

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:44 AM (5H6zj)

269 State of Free Speech in Canada: Not Good http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/154312/mark-steyn-losing/stanley-kurtz Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at October 04, 2013 09:59 AM (EPcGF) Canada's fallen in to the same trap as America. We've had it so good, for so long, that most people "trust" that America will remain this way. They didn't factor in someone like the SCOAMF. And, it happened when they weren't looking. Same as Canada's health care (or lack thereof). They assumed, with, what 5 people in the country, years ago, that it wouldn't catch up to them. You cannot grow without exponentiating the issues, and the government is the worse solution provider.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 06:44 AM (IXrOn)

270  where are the hero's*

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 10:41 AM (nqBYe)
_____________________________

Trying to get in to see the WWII Memorial.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 04, 2013 06:44 AM (32Ze2)

271 If the exact same actions took place yesterday and it was found to be a Muslim male driving you would be posting sarcastic crap about how he got what he deserved. Hmmm... now why would that be. What *possibly* could set a Muslim male apart from a black female with a small child. Nope, can't put my finger on it. And, as far as that goes, if it turned out that "Muslim" was entirely ancillary to the story, our positions would mostly evolve to where they currently are. We don't have that extraneous issue, though- we have the basic facts. And, as for her being shot while she was still driving? Unlikely. Certainly possible, but unlikely.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 06:44 AM (/PCJa)

272 ((willow)) i think a lot of people feel the same, i know i do....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 04, 2013 06:44 AM (8JJ6O)

273 152 It may well be enough to start a civil war. Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 10:13 AM (9jfyN) If it would just wake up the stupid who voted for him, I would be content with that. The forces of Freedom and the forces of Oppression have been heading for a confrontation for quite some time. ----- And do not assume that only one side is well armed. The hard-left is also well armed. They certainly were in the 60s.

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 04, 2013 06:44 AM (4LI4E)

274 The other is for WIC nutrition programs, costing $6.5 billion

So when I was out buying food the other night, Kroger had a big "WIC APPROVED!" sticker on the $6/8 oz shitake mushrooms.

'Cause you know toddlers can't get enough of that.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 06:45 AM (/kI1Q)

275 Posted by: Beagle at October 04, 2013 10:28 AM (sOtz/) Ogumble's transforming a government shut-down to order Martial Law. Mark Levin was talking about Obama's authoritarian direction beyond debt ceiling, power of the purse, and 14th amendment: to crash the Dollar and the nation. http://tinyurl.com/q32rmy7 Henry J. Aaron: [Blaming House Republicans...] "So the government is also headed toward a mid-October DEFAULT on its debts — and a full-blown constitutional crisis. Failure to raise the debt will force the president to break a law — the only question is which one." Our Outlaw President? Brookings Institute "You Lie!" The President is forced to abide by and to enforce the law. Never to break any law. Writing the lie, posted by the Brookings Institute, does not trump the US Constitution Rule of Law, no matter how many authoritarians join the totalitarian movement with Obama and bipartisan enablers sharing those values. AS IF Laws only apply to the little people, never to the law makers.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 06:45 AM (MhA4j)

276 Oh no, it's not inconsistent to point out how the media exploits an angle on the news when it serves their purposes, but ignores it when it does not.

I am just adopting their "tactics".  I know damned well that virtually anybody who pulled that stunt (whatever it was that led up to the stunt) was probably going to wind up in a body bag.

I do feel genuinely sorry for the woman and particularly the family she left behind, as she was apparently mentally ill.  If it had been a Muslim terrorist?  Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 04, 2013 06:45 AM (wtvvX)

277 Obama Exemptionalism

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 06:46 AM (MhA4j)

278 258 Inconsistency seems to be a pattern with some posters here. If the exact same actions took place yesterday and it was found to be a Muslim male driving you would be posting sarcastic crap about how he got what he deserved. Not that would be wrong but that just like the left it seems positions are frequently all relative . Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 04, 2013 10:40 AM (f4Je0) I have occasionally noticed examples where members of the right behave in a manner that we associate with the left. I have concluded that neither side has a monopoly on illogical thinking, though I still believe the bulk of it is on the left.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 04, 2013 06:46 AM (bb5+k)

279 258 Inconsistency seems to be a pattern with some posters here. If the exact same actions took place yesterday and it was found to be a Muslim male driving you would be posting sarcastic crap about how he got what he deserved. ----- You're so right. We are questioning the shooting death of an unemployed, black, single mom today and her orphaned baby. I denounce all of us. /sarc

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:46 AM (5H6zj)

280

@255

 

I don't know Jack.  It's not like she was in tactical gear blasting a 12-gauge.   She was doing circles in traffic and sort of trying to get away in an obviously irrational  manner with a baby in the car.   Then she  (allegedly)  got out of the car with no weapon.    And apparently that's when she was shot.  

 

Recent news is not relevant in use of force cases.   

Posted by: Beagle at October 04, 2013 06:46 AM (sOtz/)

281 And we're not cheering the death of a black woman so at least that shows we're not racists.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 04, 2013 06:46 AM (qnPg9)

282 The Paula Deen-inspired  Law and Order episode aired this week. What's funny is that it was so bogged down with Lefty tropes that even EW magazine was offended. In addition to the Zimmerman and Southern-female-chef is raaacist angle, they also included: PSTD, rapey Blurred Lines (the rapist always said "You know you want it"), Stop and Frisk, gun control, and recycling.
Sorry I missed in (not). 

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2013 06:46 AM (JRmiD)

283 272 Willow,

No ma'am...the rot is endemic and seems complete...

you're among friends.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:47 AM (9jfyN)

284 I've watched the video several times.  I do not believe she used her turn signal when exiting the traffic circle.  Perhaps that justifies use of deadly force?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 04, 2013 06:47 AM (N/Sup)

285 >sorry about that comment.
i probably should have kept my grief to myself

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 10:43 AM (nqBYe)


I share your sentiment

I believe the greatest threat to our country is our own government

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 06:48 AM (8sCoq)

286 Also not buying the post-partum depression angle. Depressed people with a death wish don't usually act to save their lives in blind panic, as evidenced by her leaving her own child in the car to get away. She died in sheer terror and yes, the cops over-reacted, and yes, fuck them.

Posted by: Bigby's Hockey Glove at October 04, 2013 06:48 AM (3ZtZW)

287

If it was a Muslim jihadi driving the car like the UNC jihadi  for one  there would be a lot more injured and possibly   killed so the story would be very different.  

Posted by: Beagle at October 04, 2013 06:48 AM (sOtz/)

288 The hard-left is also well armed. They certainly were in the 60s. Posted by: Czar Peter at October 04, 2013 10:44 AM (4LI4E) Obama's campaign rhetoric rumble: Bring a gun to a knife fight. Get in their faces.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 06:48 AM (MhA4j)

289 291 I've watched the video several times. I do not believe she used her turn signal when exiting the traffic circle. Perhaps that justifies use of deadly force? _____ That's it!!!

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:48 AM (5H6zj)

290 192 137 EC, It may well be enough to start a civil war. Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 10:13 AM (9jfyN) ------------------------------ I posit that we are in a "cold" civil war right now. Posted by: Truck Monkey Yep.

Posted by: backhoe at October 04, 2013 06:48 AM (ULH4o)

291 So THIS happened last night...

Send it here.  Indiana's like a fucking sauna.

(High of 86F and we're having a chili contest....27 pots of chili and not a single bottle of beer.  How do these things happen to me?)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 06:49 AM (/kI1Q)

292 Wouldn't it make more sense to power down the web servers instead of leaving them on to broadcast the "This site is shut down" page? Money that could be spent treating psychotic depression sufferers is diverted to fuel petty spite? Also, why has the shutdown forced the closing of Michelle's Twitter account? The Twitter service is free. Are we paying WH employees to think Michelle's most intimate profound thoughts for her? If so, why? Or is she just too lazy to type them herself?

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at October 04, 2013 06:49 AM (a5ljo)

293 The secret to the Democrats being able to control this country is the illusion that there actually is a struggle for control between the Democrats and the Republicans. The Republicans are not the foes of the Democrats, but they play it on TV. The Democrats control the Federal Government, several State governments, the MFM, and the Education Gulag Archipelago. They are not concerned about the squeaks and squeals that come from radio and the internet and the few remaining non-Democrat seats of power. The GOP is just another tool in the Democrat shed. The TEA Party is their true foe because it is what the GOP pretends to be: they enemy of the Democrats. The TEA Party is the last chance the fading Republic has for throwing off the chains. That is why the Democrats and most Republicans fight it so hard.

Posted by: eman at October 04, 2013 06:49 AM (AO9UG)

294 280 Czar Peter,

Oh comrade I KNOW they break gun laws...

only full auto weapon I know for certain was in my county as a boy was a non stamped Ingram M-10 a hippy owned...

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:49 AM (9jfyN)

295 Every worst case scenario, worst fear that Obama really wants to take us down and/or spark some sort of civil war seems to be coming true. Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2013 10:39 AM (JRmiD) I don't believe he consciously wants that. I believe he just wants his own way, and is too foolish to realize that he is going down the path of potential destruction. A cartoon I saw years ago depicted Jimmy Carter walking along a path with ominous looking trees with claws and eyes looking out of the darkness said: "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil..... because I'm the dumbest person in the valley."

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 04, 2013 06:49 AM (bb5+k)

296 (High of 86F and we're having a chili contest....27 pots of chili and not a single bottle of beer. How do these things happen to me?) --- That is a barrel-worthy oversight on your part. :-)

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:50 AM (5H6zj)

297 Wonder if that would be enough to start an impeachment. It might make little bits of metal start flying through the air at high rates of speed. See if the NSA crotch sniffers pick up on that line.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 04, 2013 06:50 AM (sFQyf)

298 Gotta say, with the current state of affairs I am a lot more comfortable with the assumption that any use of government force is wonky and unkosher than the opposite. Liars, cheats, thieves, featherbedders, the whole lot of 'em, until proven otherwise. In other words, the same way they view us. It's not just Alinsky Avenue that is a two-way street.

Posted by: sneaky little chelsea five-eyes at October 04, 2013 06:50 AM (3X3ZR)

299 High of 86F ??? I've been enjoying the cool ~90F temps here in DFW the last few days. I'll trade you.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 06:50 AM (/PCJa)

300 Willow, you are definitely not alone in your feelings toward our government these days.  I was saying the same thing to my wife last night.

NEVER have I felt so threatened by my own government.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 04, 2013 06:51 AM (wtvvX)

301 Texas has room. Also usually only 1 day of Winter. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 10:40 AM (/PCJa) The summers can be wilting though.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 04, 2013 06:51 AM (bb5+k)

302 298 So THIS happened last night... Send it here. Indiana's like a fucking sauna. (High of 86F and we're having a chili contest....27 pots of chili and not a single bottle of beer. How do these things happen to me?) --- I'd trade my position for yours right about now. We're having a combined birthday party for my daughters tomorrow at my house, with a bunch of kids invited, and there's a hurricane floating around in the Gulf. Even if it doesn't hit, the chances of rain are so high that my wife has talked about setting a Jumpy House up in our living room. If I make it through this without drinking heavily, I'll be surprised.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 06:51 AM (/Crba)

303

The shots started when after she rammed the gate, hit a secret service officer with her car and went off on a high speed run toward the Capital. We have no idea when she was shot, if the car was moving or not or how she was acting.

 

You are acting like it doesn't concern you if she was shot after she had been forced from the car or not.  The Police DO NOT have the power of summary execution based upon action.  They are supposed to apprehend people so that they can be tried.

 

I fail to see how killing wacko Dental Hygenists who may have been forced off the road improves our security or addresses any of the litany of problems you mentioned.  I'm very, very sorry for the DC police, but when you shoot an unarmed woman who has her kid in the car, it will invite scrutiny.  It's the damndest thing about having a gun and authority; people have expectations for how you will act.

 

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2013 06:52 AM (TpXEI)

304 >Wouldn't it make more sense to power down the web servers instead of leaving them on to broadcast the "This site is shut down" page?




Yes. Yes it would. Literally pulling the plug would save some money. But as you well know, that is not what this is about.

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 06:52 AM (8sCoq)

305 The summers can be wilting though. Shhhh! I'm trying to combat the Democrats' "Make Texas Blue" here! Ignore him. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Also- that's why air conditioning was invented.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 06:52 AM (/PCJa)

306 Visited the Flight 93 memorial yesterday. Closed, of course. Drove around to the original entrance, hopped the fence plastered with Federal "Closed Due To Emergency Conditions" signs, and hiked 2 miles or so, to pay respect to the heroes on that plane. An 80-ish year old Korean War vet-and his wife-visiting PGH from San Antonio joined me. He wasn't about to be stopped.

Posted by: bp_nj at October 04, 2013 06:53 AM (ph70Q)

307

Wouldn't it make more sense to power down the web servers instead of leaving them on to broadcast the "This site is shut down" page?

 

But that wouldn't "make it hurt."

 

I really do hope this "shutdown" lasts for a while,  and that the  GOP  somehow manages  to stay on message that it's this administration that's causing it.

 

Perhaps  a few LIV's  will wake up.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 04, 2013 06:53 AM (0HooB)

308 Here's what politics in the US has become: getting elected to positions of power so you can fuck with people you don't like with the force of law behind you

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 06:53 AM (8sCoq)

309 I never believed as a child that Texas would ever secede from the Union again.

Now I feel like it will happen in my lifetime.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 04, 2013 06:54 AM (wtvvX)

310 >>The summers can be wilting though. I'm not hating on Texas, which I loved when I lived there, but in Houston we never put out a pumpkin because we were always concerned it'd rot in a few days. Also, "live" Christmas trees had to be shaken vigorously before coming inside to loosen the "waterbugs" (aka, giant cockroaches). Our joke in Houston was that if we saw a partially-finished property, we weren't sure if it was going up or coming down, that's how brutal the heat, rain, and humidity was.

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:54 AM (5H6zj)

311 315 Jones in CO,

ie return to historic norm....

I meant what I said a few days ago...

the WW2 Gen and the Boomers with too few Gen Xers are all that is left of people steeped in civics...

the candle is about out.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:55 AM (9jfyN)

312 @313: That's an awesome story.  Good on ya.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 04, 2013 06:55 AM (wtvvX)

313 sorry about that comment.
i probably should have kept my grief to myself

 

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 10:43 AM (nqBYe)

 

No need to apologize, willow.  I've been swining from despair to anger to outright murderous thoughts about how much I would cheer if DC got wiped out by a nuke tomorrow.  That's one reason why I'm unplugging for a week.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 04, 2013 06:55 AM (zF6Iw)

314 Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 10:44 AM (5H6zj) I'm such a "Hell Yeah Killum" hawk on most things but something doesn't feel right about this. It was a car chase, happens in Los Angelos all the time, we watch it on T.V. Are those gonna end in an execution? She could not get to anyplace important because of the barriers. They have no Helo to follow her? Let her get out of the city without a big chase? I've watched police drag bigger and more dangerous than her out of a car, all the while knowing they were criminals and knowing the car was stolen. I don't like this.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 04, 2013 06:56 AM (XIxXP)

315 The Republicans are not the foes of the Democrats, but they play it on TV. Puts Linda "My hubby owns the WWE" McMahon's Senate run in its proper light, that. Oh, and no apologies needed, willow. We're all in the same place. While I'm at it, sven and VN may disregard my concerns of earlier this week. When the time comes, just be sure not to discuss operational details in open channels, no?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 04, 2013 06:56 AM (naUcP)

316 Those hornets are something else. I saw a documentary on their war against bees and how the bees try to ball up around them in a last-ditch effort to save the hive. The hornets are comparable to a T-Rex or something if bees were human.Less combat than massacre. hmmm are we in need of a meteor/asteroid shower?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 06:56 AM (IXrOn)

317 So now it's summary execution by law enforcement . Yeah no hyperbole on your part. Facts before accusation. Don't need 'em. And by the way , those dems sure do exaggerate things .

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at October 04, 2013 06:56 AM (eb70/)

318 Jackstraw, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Posted by: eman at October 04, 2013 06:57 AM (AO9UG)

319 >>I don't believe he consciously wants that. I believe he just wants his own way, and is too foolish to realize that he is going down the path of potential destruction.

I think Obama is a sociopath - he really doesn't care about other peoples' pain, as seen with Fast an Furious and Benghazi. I think he sees a drastic stock market fall, a terrorist attack, of some type of violent altercation because/during the shutdown as politically useful. Destruction is politically useful now, which is why he is doing these things, and it doesn't matter whether or not he realizes or even cares about the long term consequences.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2013 06:57 AM (JRmiD)

320 Now I feel like it will happen in my lifetime. Some of us are praying for it...and making travel plans.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 04, 2013 06:57 AM (naUcP)

321 315 Here's what politics in the US has become: getting elected to positions of power so you can fuck with people you don't like with the force of law behind you Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 10:53 AM (8sCoq) NAtional soZIalism.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 04, 2013 06:57 AM (bb5+k)

322 >>She could not get to anyplace important because of the barriers. Yeah, my husband pointed that out yesterday. It's not like she was in a Hummer. But CAR BOMB!!! ELEVENTY!11!!! I'm usually pro-police, but this thing does not pass the smell test for me yet. I read there will be an investigation. There'd better be. I really wonder if the police would've done what they did had they'd known there was a baby in the car. The helicopter scenario you suggest would've been much better.

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 06:59 AM (5H6zj)

323 I also like Sleepy Hollow because of Ichabod's references to taxation, etc. Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2013 10:41 AM (JRmiD) I like Sleepy Hollow because it's just stupid fun. Though, seriously, get Ichabod some new clothes already. I'm begging you. I really really liked Abbie (presumably) leaving the postits all over the motel room explaining what does what. That's a nice, practical touch. Then there's this: http://bit.ly/1bwy9Qv and then http://bit.ly/1fLAIzU Total mystery that makes me laugh. Utter and total mystery.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 04, 2013 06:59 AM (VtjlW)

324
If George Bush was in the White House and this woman was killed by police. The race baiters and the MFM would be screaming bloody murder about it. Bush killed the woman because of racism and sexism. But because King Barry the douche is Prezzy they'll drop it as fast as they can

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 04, 2013 06:59 AM (1Jaio)

325 Here's what politics in the US has become: getting elected to positions of power so you can fuck with people you don't like with the force of law behind you Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 10:53 AM (8sCoq) That should be on a bumper sticker.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 04, 2013 06:59 AM (XIxXP)

326 http://tinyurl.com/nuwbbol

Oh look a Leukemia patient lost their coverage under Ogabecare...

hey Chad glad you got your way buddy...

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 06:59 AM (9jfyN)

327 With so much bad shit happening in rapid successsion all over the place and increasing nastiness of gov actions and liberals, like some folks have said on here already, dont get depressed. Angry? Yes. Disgusted? Sure. Suspicious and untrusting when gov types askfor your trust? Absofuckinglutely. But like soldiers before battle, if we do some basic preparations, we'll help ourselves mentally for when the shit gets real. A little food storage, a few dollars of cash stashed away, good relations with neighbors, family, friends, and some spiritual nourishment, whatever feeds your spirit, and we'll weather the bad shit. Will we get scathed? Probably. But a lot of this shit is mental and we'll get through it because we belie e i helping ourselves n those around us. No shit.

Posted by: fastfreefall at October 04, 2013 07:00 AM (qnIhA)

328 Shooting an erratically behaving woman with a baby in the back seat can in no way be credited as a A Job Well Done, and Security Saves The Day also rings false. One thing is certain however, Jugears' arrogance and petulance has heightened the DC LEOs sense of the roiling hatred increasingly expressed towards the seat of the Federal Government.

Posted by: ontherocks at October 04, 2013 07:00 AM (WAtZR)

329 >>I don't know Jack. It's not like she was in tactical gear blasting a 12-gauge. She was doing circles in traffic and sort of trying to get away in an obviously irrational manner with a baby in the car. Then she (allegedly) got out of the car with no weapon. And apparently that's when she was shot. >>Recent news is not relevant in use of force cases. Really. A week ago this place was all atwitter when reports of terrorists calmly walked into a mall and slaughtered dozens of people. Some reports link that attack to a white woman with a bunch of kids. And you don't think cops have been trained to adjust their response in the times that we now live in? Have you seen DC since 9/11? It is like an armed camp. I will repeat, she hit and hospitalized a secret service agent will she was driving irrationally and endangered lots of people. Do you really want cops to stop, run her plates, get a search warrant for her home and interview her relatives to see if she has some issues before acting? She was pulled over after ramming the gates. 6 cops had her surrounded with guns drawn and she rammed a police car and hit secret service agent while getting away the first time. That's when the shots started. Go watch the video again. Anyone who has ever been pulled over by the cops for a traffic stop knows the last thing you ever do is get out of the car. That goes double after you have already hit a cop, been shot at by the cops, led them on a high speed chase which wrecked another cop car and crashed in front of the Capital.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 07:00 AM (g1DWB)

330 The Twitter service is free. Are we paying WH employees to think Michelle's most intimate profound thoughts for her?

@FLOTUS is just another propaganda tool.  They're smart enough to keep her real thoughts toward us private.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 07:00 AM (/kI1Q)

331

Sadly this young ladys mistake was acting like she did in one of the most protected places in the country.  It was an ongoing situation that ended at the capital but started at the White House.  I think that anyone who did the same would end up getting shot as well. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 04, 2013 07:00 AM (32Ze2)

332 Doom Doom SNAFU Doom Bastards Doom Despire Awwwww, widdle wion cubbie is so cute... BP falling.

Posted by: RWC at October 04, 2013 07:01 AM (fWAjv)

333 That's one reason why I'm unplugging for a week.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 04, 2013 10:55 AM (zF6Iw)


uh hmm, i think i should do something similar if not longer. maybe find some strength i feel has been lost. maybe it won't look so bleak.

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 07:02 AM (nqBYe)

334 No new news, just old recycled news, so try the noodles :

http://roadsandkingdoms.com/2013/the-noodle-master-of-penang/

Posted by: Not buyin' it at October 04, 2013 07:02 AM (/7zt4)

335 >>>If the exact same actions took place yesterday and it was found to be a Muslim male driving you would be posting sarcastic crap about how he got what he deserved.<<<

I don't believe this woman was giving thanks to Allah at that precise moment, so inconsistency doesn't even enter the discussion.

Posted by: Fritz at October 04, 2013 07:03 AM (UzPAd)

336 Well, JackStraw must be privy to some additional video than I saw. What I saw was a woman NOT hitting guys on foot with her car while she was trying to evade capture. Kind of the opposite of the Tsarnevs' behavior, for example.

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 07:03 AM (5H6zj)

337 That's one reason why I'm unplugging for a week. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 04, 2013 10:55 AM (zF6Iw) uh hmm, i think i should do something similar if not longer. maybe find some strength i feel has been lost. maybe it won't look so bleak. Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 11:02 AM (nqBYe) I did it for a couple of weeks, It brings the blood pressure down

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 04, 2013 07:03 AM (XIxXP)

338 Anyone who has ever been pulled over by the cops for a traffic stop knows the last thing you ever do is get out of the car. That goes double after you have already hit a cop, been shot at by the cops, led them on a high speed chase which wrecked another cop car and crashed in front of the Capital. Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 11:00 AM (g1DWB) She was unarmed. The car was abandoned. What threat did she pose at the moment she was gunned down?

Posted by: eman at October 04, 2013 07:03 AM (AO9UG)

339 If that woman deliberately drove her car at an officer, that is attempted murder


but- I don't like this shit about cops shooting people who aren't pointing guns at them

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 07:03 AM (8sCoq)

340 262 AlextheChick if they have the digital keys to read your email, they have the digital keys to plant emails.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 09:52 AM (HEMX5)


Well crap. I didn't even think about that.
================
That's what I keep saying!!

The 4th Amendment was written because the Founders were well familiar with the practice of the police "planting" evidence. Or just flat-out lying to obtain an arrest.

You tell me: If the FBI shows up with a cache of kiddie porn that they say they pulled from your emails, how are you going to prove they didn't come from you?

Or dial it down a bit: What's to stop them from "spoofing" your IP and posting racist or terrorist threats? And then "leaking" that to a friendly source?

Look how quick they fingered the film-maker guy over Bengazi. Now, what do you think they can do if they've time to plan it?

I don't think it's what they had on the Piss-Yellow Coward John Roberts, I think it's what they told him and showed him they could and would do that turned him.

Remember when it used to be "better 100 criminals go free than one innocent man go to jail?"
Now it's "better 100 innocent men go to jail than one bureaucratic unionized law officer have to follow the Constitution."

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 04, 2013 07:03 AM (VjL9S)

341 258. Unarmed is unarmed, regardless. And unless the Muslim male were wearing Muslim clothing, scarf or cap, or symbolic jewelry, the male could not have been visually identified as "Muslim". The driver was not allowed to speak. And having a "swarthy" complexion is not reason to murder an unarmed and non-confrontational person. If someone was wearing baggy clothing that might be hiding explosives, or is shouting in a foreign tongue rather than speaking in conversational tone in an attempt to communicate amicably, then a defensive posture is a natural response. Defensive postures are not all-response-the-same regardless of circumstances. Go fix your own patterned inconsistencies.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 07:03 AM (MhA4j)

342

"Chad Henderson, Come ON Down!   You're the next contestant..."

Posted by: Independent Practice Advisory Board at October 04, 2013 07:04 AM (N/Sup)

343 I never believed as a child that Texas would ever secede from the Union again. Now I feel like it will happen in my lifetime. Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 04, 2013 10:54 AM (wtvvX) Dude, I feel like it might happen by the end of this year.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 04, 2013 07:04 AM (VtjlW)

344 Despair. F.

Posted by: RWC at October 04, 2013 07:04 AM (fWAjv)

345 >>> Cheese Hornets of Doom Didn't they tour with The Psychedelic Furs in '86?

Posted by: fluffy at October 04, 2013 07:04 AM (z9HTb)

346 if they have the digital keys to read your email, they have the digital keys to plant emails. Exactly!

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 07:04 AM (MhA4j)

347 Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 04, 2013 10:59 AM (VtjlW)

Heh. Yes, Sleepy Hollow is stupid fun.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2013 07:05 AM (JRmiD)

348 Anyone who has ever been pulled over by the cops for a traffic stop knows the last thing you ever do is get out of the car.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 11:00 AM (g1DWB)


I actually didn't know that. I opened the door of my  car last week immediately because my driver window doesnt roll down anymore.

i was yelled at by policeman, (no i don't blame him)  but i WAs unaware of that rule of conduct.

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 07:05 AM (nqBYe)

349 I mean- the Border Patrol has to shoot beanbags at people, but in DC it's 'fire at will'? That can only mean that some human life is more valuable than other, and THAT means a political decision has been made about who it's okay to kill

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 07:05 AM (8sCoq)

350

Is there anyone who thinks Miley Cyrus is even remotely attractive? And for fucks sake close your crooked toothed mouth, Every picture of her is with her gross mouth gaped open. Kate Upton, YES. Miley. Yuk.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 04, 2013 07:06 AM (S1X4V)

351 >I actually didn't know that. I opened the door of my car last week immediately because my driver window doesnt roll down anymore.i was yelled at by policeman, (no i don't blame him) but i WAs unaware of that rule of conduct.

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 11:05 AM (nqBYe)


sometimes cops get shot dead during a traffic stop. They take the traffic stop encounter very very seriously

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 07:06 AM (8sCoq)

352 Operational details are best discussed face to face, quietly, away from microphones, and under a tree canopy.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 04, 2013 07:06 AM (AskuI)

353 $175 for a "young healthy" student.  Just how healthy is a guy that age that wants to play with little kids all day?

Also funny (not funny ha ha) -- he retweets an Al Jazerra article on ObamaCare.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 04, 2013 07:07 AM (0It32)

354 I even see regular employees use excuses to Why they won't argue against their govt agency because they know their job is only safe from threat of firing or pension loss if they go along to get along. Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 10:41 AM (nqBYe) Same for students at universities. They are bullied and intimidated into work that skews the professor's way of thinking, or else, bad grades.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 07:07 AM (IXrOn)

355 356. obama exemptionalism

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 07:07 AM (MhA4j)

356 You know, I really, really, really hate John Roberts now.  He foisted this shit upon us. Yeah, I know, Dems and all, but the government forcing a citizen to buy a product is such a no-brainer unconstitutional act that my head just explodes when I read his name.

Posted by: dogfish at October 04, 2013 07:07 AM (nsOJa)

357 The hard-left is also well armed. They certainly were in the 60s. Curb to sidewalk range. How are they at 300+ yard engagements?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 07:07 AM (xorT2)

358 346 Jones in CO,

I am pretty pro-cop I think my posting record backs that.

Ask yourself a question though...

A person hits me with their car I am a CCW I pursue to keep the felon in sight...they hop out of the car flailing no visible gun....

I put 31 shots in his/her body.....

Legal Shoot?

cause as others have said in the eyes of that quaint thing called "law" it is supposed to be the same for a badge or no...

I'd say it was murder, and I am not saying I would not have done the same....

instead they get a standing O b/c "we're special"


Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 07:07 AM (9jfyN)

359 Interesting link on twitter: http://www.army.mil/article/112429/Capital_Shield_2014___First_Responders_train_in_Nation_s_Capital/ "WASHINGTON (Sept. 30, 2013) -- Emergency vehicles and first responders are once again in action in the National Capital Region and will be thru Oct. 3. They are participating in "Capital Shield 2014... More than 38 participating agencies from DOD and Capital region response agencies will perform mock mass casualty rescues, Defense Support to civil agency technical rescues and law enforcement tactical responses. The goal of the exercise is to ensure government agencies at every level are prepared to coordinate action to protect the public in the event of an actual disaster in the National Capital Region."

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 07:07 AM (5H6zj)

360 Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 11:05 AM (8sCoq) I just keep seeing all those car chases in LA with crazy driving, running lights, endangering people and they all end the smae way, wheels sparking from blown out tires and cops dragging somebody out of theur car. Wait, I forgot. This is DC, like Obamacare, our rules don't apply to them.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 04, 2013 07:08 AM (XIxXP)

361 It's different when you get pulled over on a motorcycle.

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 07:08 AM (8sCoq)

362 sometimes cops get shot dead during a traffic stop. They take the traffic stop encounter very very seriously

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 11:06 AM (8sCoq)


right. as i said i don't blame Him, just that i was unaware of the rule.


last time i was pulled over i was 17 or so, a long time ago.


Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 07:08 AM (nqBYe)

363


>>>but- I don't like this shit about cops shooting people who aren't pointing guns at them

 

I'd call that a situation what oughta be remedied.

Posted by: Bigby's Hockey Glove at October 04, 2013 07:09 AM (3ZtZW)

364 360 Vashta Narada,

I figure it is important enough that as many have the needed data as possible that I post links to the necessary sourcebooks...

fate'll take care of itself...

if it ever comes to that I am screwed anyway.

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 07:09 AM (9jfyN)

365 >>I'm also wondering where the #Justice4Trayvon crowd is at... Just sayin'. Some of the usual suspects were blaming the GOP's Shutdown for this yesterday. smh

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 07:09 AM (5H6zj)

366 Does this blog make my ass look fat?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 04, 2013 07:09 AM (AskuI)

367 I really wonder if the police would've done what they did had they'd known there was a baby in the car. The helicopter scenario you suggest would've been much better.

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2013 10:59 AM (5H6zj)

----- ------ ----- ------- --------- --------

 

How did they not know with so many officers close to the car with weapons drawn at different times? 

Posted by: Beagle at October 04, 2013 07:09 AM (sOtz/)

368 uhh...

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 07:09 AM (8sCoq)

369 Anyone who has ever been pulled over by the cops for a traffic stop knows the last thing you ever do is get out of the car. Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 11:00 AM (g1DWB) I actually didn't know that. I opened the door of my car last week immediately because my driver window doesnt roll down anymore.i was yelled at by policeman, (no i don't blame him) but i WAs unaware of that rule of conduct. Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 11:05 AM (nqBYe) I got out of my car after being pulled over by a Mass State Trooper. That was thirty years ago; a much less paranoid time. I will get out of my car any damn time I want. The cop can take a few steps back and be ready if he wants, but I'm not staying in my car because the cop's training videos make me a menace in his mind.

Posted by: eman at October 04, 2013 07:09 AM (AO9UG)

370 364 Yep,that traitorous bastard should have and could have ended this all.

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2013 07:10 AM (9XBK2)

371 ((willow)) i think a lot of people feel the same, i know i do.... Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 04, 2013 10:44 AM (8JJ6O) /nod

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 07:10 AM (IXrOn)

372
TFG is stalking half of the US trying to take their stuff....for the chilrens!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 04, 2013 07:10 AM (sj9LN)

373 sometimes cops get shot dead during a traffic stop. They take the traffic stop encounter very very seriously

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 11:06 AM (8sCoq)

A lot of times innocent people get shot by overzealous cops too.

This 'get to the end of your shift alive' mentality, like these cops are in 'the shit' and every person is a potential madman, is dangerous. I don't much like the idea of living in a state where a policman has broad latitude on when he can dispense summary execution.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2013 07:10 AM (TpXEI)

374

Is there anyone who thinks Miley Cyrus is even remotely attractive?...

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 04, 2013 11:06 AM (S1X4V)

 

*****


Everytime I look at her   it just breaks my achy breaky heart!

Posted by: Billy Ray at October 04, 2013 07:11 AM (N/Sup)

375 >>I actually didn't know that. I opened the door of my car last week immediately because my driver window doesnt roll down anymore.i was yelled at by policeman, (no i don't blame him) but i WAs unaware of that rule of conduct. Don't ever get out of the car unless you are told to. Go watch the video I posted up thread of the guy who was pulled over for speeding. He got out of his car. Cop told him repeatedly to get back in his car. Guy pulled a weapon he had hidden and shot the cop. He also had 3 little kids in his car so the kid in the car rule is a bit flexible. You are asking for trouble if you get out of your car without being told to.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 07:12 AM (g1DWB)

376 >>I actually didn't know that. I opened the door of my car last week immediately because my driver window doesnt roll down anymore.i was yelled at by policeman, (no i don't blame him) but i WAs unaware of that rule of conduct. Don't ever get out of the car unless you are told to. Go watch the video I posted up thread of the guy who was pulled over for speeding. He got out of his car. Cop told him repeatedly to get back in his car. Guy pulled a weapon he had hidden and shot the cop. He also had 3 little kids in his car so the kid in the car rule is a bit flexible. You are asking for trouble if you get out of your car without being told to.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 07:12 AM (g1DWB)

377 >>I actually didn't know that. I opened the door of my car last week immediately because my driver window doesnt roll down anymore.i was yelled at by policeman, (no i don't blame him) but i WAs unaware of that rule of conduct. Don't ever get out of the car unless you are told to. Go watch the video I posted up thread of the guy who was pulled over for speeding. He got out of his car. Cop told him repeatedly to get back in his car. Guy pulled a weapon he had hidden and shot the cop. He also had 3 little kids in his car so the kid in the car rule is a bit flexible. You are asking for trouble if you get out of your car without being told to.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 07:12 AM (g1DWB)

378
MPPP make sure not to get into any traffic accidents on the way to the cabin in the woods.

*cue of scary music*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 09:46 AM (HEMX5)








And for goodness' sake, if you find a book in the basement DON'T READ THE BOOK OUT LOUD.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2013 07:12 AM (TIIx5)

379
MPPP make sure not to get into any traffic accidents on the way to the cabin in the woods.

*cue of scary music*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 09:46 AM (HEMX5)








And for goodness' sake, if you find a book in the basement DON'T READ THE BOOK OUT LOUD.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2013 07:12 AM (TIIx5)

380
MPPP make sure not to get into any traffic accidents on the way to the cabin in the woods.

*cue of scary music*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 04, 2013 09:46 AM (HEMX5)








And for goodness' sake, if you find a book in the basement DON'T READ THE BOOK OUT LOUD.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 04, 2013 07:12 AM (TIIx5)

381 Is there anyone who thinks Miley Cyrus is even remotely attractive?... Posted by: Minnfidel at October 04, 2013 11:06 AM (S1X4V) She needs to get aquainted with Jesus and Squats, she is too young for her ass to be that flabby.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 04, 2013 07:12 AM (XIxXP)

382 Is there anyone who thinks Miley Cyrus is even remotely attractive?... Posted by: Minnfidel at October 04, 2013 11:06 AM (S1X4V) She needs to get aquainted with Jesus and Squats, she is too young for her ass to be that flabby.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 04, 2013 07:12 AM (XIxXP)

383 Is there anyone who thinks Miley Cyrus is even remotely attractive?... Posted by: Minnfidel at October 04, 2013 11:06 AM (S1X4V) She needs to get aquainted with Jesus and Squats, she is too young for her ass to be that flabby.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 04, 2013 07:12 AM (XIxXP)

384

Just scanned Drudge, Kos and HuffPo for my morning look into the abyss.

 

I have one thing to say:  The world has gone  kcufing  crazy.  Time to check the locks on the doors  and windows and pull all the shades and curtains.  Can't be sure which reality is in effect Outside.  I am  so  thankful  this place exists.

 

 

Okay, that was a couple of things.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 04, 2013 07:12 AM (BAS5M)

385

Just scanned Drudge, Kos and HuffPo for my morning look into the abyss.

 

I have one thing to say:  The world has gone  kcufing  crazy.  Time to check the locks on the doors  and windows and pull all the shades and curtains.  Can't be sure which reality is in effect Outside.  I am  so  thankful  this place exists.

 

 

Okay, that was a couple of things.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 04, 2013 07:12 AM (BAS5M)

386

Just scanned Drudge, Kos and HuffPo for my morning look into the abyss.

 

I have one thing to say:  The world has gone  kcufing  crazy.  Time to check the locks on the doors  and windows and pull all the shades and curtains.  Can't be sure which reality is in effect Outside.  I am  so  thankful  this place exists.

 

 

Okay, that was a couple of things.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 04, 2013 07:12 AM (BAS5M)

387

I will repeat, she hit and hospitalized a secret service agent will she was driving irrationally and endangered lots of people.

 

It was my understanding that the only   LEO    injured in the incident was the one who flipped his car on the road barrier.  Who is this secret service agent?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 04, 2013 07:13 AM (4df7R)

388 @364 His treachery is even worse than you might know. After initially siding with the conservatives on the court in striking down obamacare, he switched sides at the 11th hour and rewrote the statute as presented and altered the constitution to uphold it. May he burn in the lowest depths of hell for his treason.

Posted by: kreplach at October 04, 2013 07:13 AM (IyKYr)

389

I will repeat, she hit and hospitalized a secret service agent will she was driving irrationally and endangered lots of people.

 

It was my understanding that the only   LEO    injured in the incident was the one who flipped his car on the road barrier.  Who is this secret service agent?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 04, 2013 07:13 AM (4df7R)

390 @364 His treachery is even worse than you might know. After initially siding with the conservatives on the court in striking down obamacare, he switched sides at the 11th hour and rewrote the statute as presented and altered the constitution to uphold it. May he burn in the lowest depths of hell for his treason.

Posted by: kreplach at October 04, 2013 07:13 AM (IyKYr)

391

I will repeat, she hit and hospitalized a secret service agent will she was driving irrationally and endangered lots of people.

 

It was my understanding that the only   LEO    injured in the incident was the one who flipped his car on the road barrier.  Who is this secret service agent?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 04, 2013 07:13 AM (4df7R)

392 @364 His treachery is even worse than you might know. After initially siding with the conservatives on the court in striking down obamacare, he switched sides at the 11th hour and rewrote the statute as presented and altered the constitution to uphold it. May he burn in the lowest depths of hell for his treason.

Posted by: kreplach at October 04, 2013 07:13 AM (IyKYr)

393 After the Occupy guy shooting a window in the White House, and the Navy Yard last week, of course the police are jumpy and didn't want another incident.

They had her car surrounded by cops when it was stopped and they didn't shoot her, and then she took off, right?

I think this time it really is just a tragedy. She was doing crazy stuff and wouldn't stop. I feel bad for her and her child, but a perfect ending would have been a miracle. If anything, it's an indictment of our mental health treatment rules: if you're crazy and don't want to go to the hospital, fine with us.

Posted by: PJ at October 04, 2013 07:13 AM (ZWaLo)

394 After the Occupy guy shooting a window in the White House, and the Navy Yard last week, of course the police are jumpy and didn't want another incident.

They had her car surrounded by cops when it was stopped and they didn't shoot her, and then she took off, right?

I think this time it really is just a tragedy. She was doing crazy stuff and wouldn't stop. I feel bad for her and her child, but a perfect ending would have been a miracle. If anything, it's an indictment of our mental health treatment rules: if you're crazy and don't want to go to the hospital, fine with us.

Posted by: PJ at October 04, 2013 07:13 AM (ZWaLo)

395 After the Occupy guy shooting a window in the White House, and the Navy Yard last week, of course the police are jumpy and didn't want another incident.

They had her car surrounded by cops when it was stopped and they didn't shoot her, and then she took off, right?

I think this time it really is just a tragedy. She was doing crazy stuff and wouldn't stop. I feel bad for her and her child, but a perfect ending would have been a miracle. If anything, it's an indictment of our mental health treatment rules: if you're crazy and don't want to go to the hospital, fine with us.

Posted by: PJ at October 04, 2013 07:13 AM (ZWaLo)

396

369 It's different when you get pulled over on a motorcycle.


Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 11:08 AM (8sCoq)


*****


Do they still ask you to roll down your window?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 04, 2013 07:13 AM (N/Sup)

397

369 It's different when you get pulled over on a motorcycle.


Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 11:08 AM (8sCoq)


*****


Do they still ask you to roll down your window?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 04, 2013 07:13 AM (N/Sup)

398

369 It's different when you get pulled over on a motorcycle.


Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 11:08 AM (8sCoq)


*****


Do they still ask you to roll down your window?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 04, 2013 07:13 AM (N/Sup)

399 >>he hard-left is also well armed. They certainly were in the 60s.

My parents make at least one cross-country road trip a year to visit family and friends, from CO to East Coast, with side-trips to Canada, FL, etc.. One thing they noticed this year that they hadn't seen before: a lot of new government depots/storage facilities conveniently built inear interstates. They were concerned that these may contain food (if there's a crisis and we become dependent on the govt for rations) or worse, guns/armored vehicle type stuff that we know DHS has been stockpiling. ANyone else see this kind of thing?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2013 07:14 AM (JRmiD)

400 >>he hard-left is also well armed. They certainly were in the 60s.

My parents make at least one cross-country road trip a year to visit family and friends, from CO to East Coast, with side-trips to Canada, FL, etc.. One thing they noticed this year that they hadn't seen before: a lot of new government depots/storage facilities conveniently built inear interstates. They were concerned that these may contain food (if there's a crisis and we become dependent on the govt for rations) or worse, guns/armored vehicle type stuff that we know DHS has been stockpiling. ANyone else see this kind of thing?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2013 07:14 AM (JRmiD)

401 >>he hard-left is also well armed. They certainly were in the 60s.

My parents make at least one cross-country road trip a year to visit family and friends, from CO to East Coast, with side-trips to Canada, FL, etc.. One thing they noticed this year that they hadn't seen before: a lot of new government depots/storage facilities conveniently built inear interstates. They were concerned that these may contain food (if there's a crisis and we become dependent on the govt for rations) or worse, guns/armored vehicle type stuff that we know DHS has been stockpiling. ANyone else see this kind of thing?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 04, 2013 07:14 AM (JRmiD)

402 You are asking for trouble if you get out of your car without being told to. Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 11:12 AM (g1DWB) I don't fucking care.

Posted by: eman at October 04, 2013 07:14 AM (AO9UG)

403 You are asking for trouble if you get out of your car without being told to. Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 11:12 AM (g1DWB) I don't fucking care.

Posted by: eman at October 04, 2013 07:14 AM (AO9UG)

404 You are asking for trouble if you get out of your car without being told to. Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 11:12 AM (g1DWB) I don't fucking care.

Posted by: eman at October 04, 2013 07:14 AM (AO9UG)

405 Wasn't special agenr Clarice Starling demoted, suspended, hauled up on charges for shooting and killing a woman holding a baby?

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at October 04, 2013 07:14 AM (a5ljo)

406 Wasn't special agenr Clarice Starling demoted, suspended, hauled up on charges for shooting and killing a woman holding a baby?

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at October 04, 2013 07:14 AM (a5ljo)

407 Wasn't special agenr Clarice Starling demoted, suspended, hauled up on charges for shooting and killing a woman holding a baby?

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at October 04, 2013 07:14 AM (a5ljo)

408 http://tinyurl.com/oqhe8xv

Vo Nguyen Giap...dead at 102

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 07:15 AM (9jfyN)

409 Jack i didn't actually get out of the car, just opened the door so i could hear him.
But i do understand they are at risk, they do not know Who they are going to face.
that he yelled at me , for something i thought was silly did make me reflect on this.

but i'm not goijng through a depression either.

and still think the aggression shown by a multitude of police in DC was over zealous and They have other solution I would think Trained in those solutions

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 07:15 AM (nqBYe)

410 [i\Go watch the video I posted up thread of the guy who was pulled over for speeding. He got out of his car. Cop told him repeatedly to get back in his car. Guy pulled a weapon he had hidden and shot the cop. He also had 3 little kids in his car so the kid in the car rule is a bit flexible.

You are asking for trouble if you get out of your car without being told to.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 11:12 AM (g1DWB)[/i]

 

You're still pushing this as remotely equivalent? 

 

And I think the guy got in trouble because he shot at the cop.  Under your logic, the cop should have been able to blast him the second he left the car.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2013 07:16 AM (TpXEI)

411 Maybe we should send these Barrycaders to the border.

Posted by: gracepmc at October 04, 2013 07:16 AM (rznx3)

412 What threat did she present at the moment she was killed by the police?

Posted by: eman at October 04, 2013 07:16 AM (AO9UG)

413 Vo Nguyen Giap...dead at 102


He Marxist long time.

Posted by: EC at October 04, 2013 07:17 AM (GQ8sn)

414 394 http://tinyurl.com/oqhe8xv Vo Nguyen Giap...dead at 102 Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 11:15 AM (9jfyN) I'm old enough to know who he is. Gevalt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2013 07:17 AM (WjLUf)

415 397 GracePMC,

Indeed....maybe we should swap El Patrolero Bordero and the NPS staff eh?

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 07:17 AM (9jfyN)

416 I'm also wondering where the #Justice4Trayvon crowd is at... Just sayin'.
Trolling conservative blogs trying to make lemonade out of lemons once it turned out not to be a TEA Partier!!!11!!!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at October 04, 2013 07:18 AM (qnPg9)

417

@336

This was so nothing like Kenya I honestly can't believe you'd claim that one.  A single, lone, woman driving erratically with no weapon.

 

v.

 

A couple dozen heavily armed  jihadis with weapons and explosives stockpiled in a mall.  

 

Various  Strawmen.    They shot her when the driving threat ended.

 

 

Nobody is claiming she acted rationally or that the police were not in danger.  The problem is the use of deadly force after she quit driving and apparently tried to flee on foot surrounded by dozens of armed officers in the most heavily-defended  symbolic part of our national leadership.  

 

Sure, it attracts terrorists, and everyone else.  

Posted by: Beagle at October 04, 2013 07:18 AM (sOtz/)

418 >>It was my understanding that the only LEO injured in the incident was the one who flipped his car on the road barrier. Who is this secret service agent? Don't know his name. >>One Secret Service officer was struck by the woman's car, and a Capitol Police officer was injured when he slammed into a barricade during the pursuit. http://tinyurl.com/pl2jogd If you watch the video you can hear the shooting start when she tried to get away from the cops/secret service after ramming the gates and not after she crashed at the Capital. Once the shooting starts rules change.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 07:18 AM (g1DWB)

419

I'm sure it's already been mentioned here today, but   after almost 400 comments there's no way I'm going to be able to read them all.   So    I apologize if this is a   duplicate.

 

Military keeps Camp David open, cuts NFL, baseball coverage to troops overseas

 

Washington Examiner: http://tinyurl.com/nv559mp


 

President Obama has visited the Navy-run presidential retreat Camp David in central Maryland only 32 times, but it is being kept open during the government shutdown for his entertainment and security at the same time the Pentagon is cutting sports coverage to hundreds of thousands of troops around the world...

 

 

...Obama has spent just 78 days at the retreat, choosing instead to spend his weekends in Washington and hitting military golf courses, which are also being kept open during the government shutdown.

 

 

In the meantime, overseas troops who typically look forward to watching NFL games and the baseball playoffs provided by the Armed Forces Network, will get little if any service due to the shutdown...

 

FUCKING DICKWAD.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 04, 2013 07:18 AM (4df7R)

420 Yesterday headline 1400 American citizens' social security identities emailed to one insurance agent's request for Obamacide. Today we hear of an East Texan restaurant owner whose internet banking statement "suddenly" have 4 Trillion Dollars in his account. /and he offered to pay off the national debt Confidence in internet security of either records or transactions?

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 07:18 AM (MhA4j)

421 399 EC,

I am in the position of a WW1 Ace celebrating "an esteemed enemy" on Gen Giap...

he is as close to a Revolutionary War General as I've seen in the 20th century....

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 07:18 AM (9jfyN)

422 police stops  as a regular woman , with no criminal past! still flustered, my mind was racing thinking about omg do i have a broken taillight , was i driving to fast, my spouse will be furious, where is the insurance card .

yeah i am afraid of authority figures  even though i've never been in trouble.

so yeah i could see the woman freaking out especially if ill.

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 07:18 AM (nqBYe)

423 No need to apologize, willow. I've been swining from despair to anger to outright murderous thoughts about how much I would cheer if DC got wiped out by a nuke tomorrow. That's one reason why I'm unplugging for a week. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 04, 2013 10:55 AM (zF6Iw) yep get a fresh perspective. It'll do wonders. I try to do mini-these every day to keep my balance. Sunning and reading sci-fi. Exercise pretty much every day. It makes a huge difference. And, zoning out on a good flick or tv show doesn't hurt. Hope you have fun and recharge. I have a girls night out this weekend, which will be fun.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 07:19 AM (IXrOn)

424 Go watch the video I posted up thread of the guy who was pulled over for speeding. He got out of his car. Cop told him repeatedly to get back in his car. Guy pulled a weapon he had hidden and shot the cop. He also had 3 little kids in his car so the kid in the car rule is a bit flexible. No, really you aren't. Or, rather, you shouldn't be. As someone above said: I'll get out of my car any d*mn time I want. If I'm leaning against my car with no weapon (and, in Texas at least, I'm required to inform the cop if I'm carrying), then he has no cause to shoot me. I don't care if it makes him edgy. That's his d*mn job. You also seem to be conflating an immediate response to an attack with an immediate response to a suspect attempting to flee. Those are two different things. Put another way- let's say the cop *had* said, "Sir, if you'd like to get out of your car, you may." Would that have changed anything about the scenario? Would he suddenly *not* have had permission to defend himself when the guy pulled a gun and started shooting? No, of course not. So it seems the determining factor is the immediate (or at least imminent) use of a weapon against the police (or innocent standers-by) which determines if a cop is authorized to use deadly force. NOT simply whether or not the suspect stays in the car. NOT simply whether the suspect complies with the cops' orders.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 07:19 AM (/PCJa)

425 nevermind. LOL

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 07:19 AM (nqBYe)

426 Giap's ability as a general is in direct proportion to the assistance given him by the Democrat party.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2013 07:20 AM (WjLUf)

427 Seriously Jackstraw- draw a VENN diagram regarding the two scenarios- the lady in DC yesterday and the vid you posted. The area of overlap is incredibly small- and none of that overlap is probative regarding use of force.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 07:20 AM (/PCJa)

428 And for goodness' sake, if you find a book in the basement DON'T READ THE BOOK OUT LOUD. --- I'm drawing a f*cking line in the sand here... DO NOT READ THE LATIN!

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 07:20 AM (/Crba)

429 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2013 11:17 AM (WjLUf)

I checked....the bar for this evening's Moron Meet-up has a ramp and wheelchair accessible bathrooms.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 04, 2013 07:21 AM (/kU/5)

430 El Patrolero Bordelero? Doesn't translate.

Wait...damn glasses..

I get it. Border Patrol was 'ordered to stand down', which I assumes means no more overtime, or something. Unless it means just stand there and watch the illegals stream across the border.

English is so confusing.

Posted by: Not buyin' it at October 04, 2013 07:21 AM (/7zt4)

431 Vo Nguyen Giap...dead at 102 He Marxist long time. Gonna be dead longer time.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 07:21 AM (xorT2)

432 I'm drawing a f*cking line in the sand here... DO NOT READ THE LATIN!

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 11:20 AM (/Crba)



Klaatu


Barada


*coughcoughmumbleahem!!!*

Posted by: EC at October 04, 2013 07:21 AM (GQ8sn)

433 are we hatin' on cops now?

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 04, 2013 07:21 AM (8sCoq)

434

... 4 Trillion Dollars in his account. /and he offered to pay off the national debt


Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 11:18 AM (MhA4j)

 

***


That would cover less than 25% of the national debt.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 04, 2013 07:21 AM (N/Sup)

435 "Anyone who has ever been pulled over by the cops for a traffic stop knows the last thing you ever do is get out of the car." $#!+ Those of us who don't watch World's Deadliest Cop Chases, don't get stopped, etc don't know how to act by unwritten rules. How to spread-eagle properly, as I found one day. When I learned (Flintstones era), getting out was what you did. When I was teaching my twin boys to drive, one say, son's unsteadiness got us pulled over. It was all friendly when they realized it was student, not impaired, driving. But I explained to them about this very change from 'my day,' and asked them to tell my boys how to respond. That was a good lesson. Older cop to younger cop when told when I had learned to drive: "That's before you were born, isn't it?" Heh.

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 04, 2013 07:21 AM (ZFXqT)

436 Speaking of computer glitches, this headline at Puff-Ho: "Typo Blamed For Adding $13 Billion To Spanish Debt"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2013 07:21 AM (WjLUf)

437 405 FUCKING [shitdip] DICKWAD.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 07:22 AM (MhA4j)

438 Jones, not me, they are essential.

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 07:22 AM (nqBYe)

439 412 JJ Sefton,

Well I think he is overrated as a general from a skill standpoint... few like him in the west from a willpower one though....

Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 07:23 AM (9jfyN)

440 415 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2013 11:17 AM (WjLUf) I checked....the bar for this evening's Moron Meet-up has a ramp and wheelchair accessible bathrooms. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 04, 2013 11:21 AM (/kU/5) Me snark at you long time, gwei-lo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2013 07:23 AM (WjLUf)

441

I checked....the bar for this evening's Moron Meet-up has a ramp and wheelchair accessible bathrooms.

 

And please to be hoisting   one (even better, several)   for me.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 04, 2013 07:23 AM (0HooB)

442 ...and wouldn't even get us back to where we were the day BHO was inaugurated.   Just sayin'.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 04, 2013 07:23 AM (N/Sup)

443 "Park Police Now Using Wire To Keep WW 2 Barricades In Place"


So does that mean that if the WW II vets get inside their own memorial the Park Police will call Obama to tell him that the enemy has gotten inside the wire?

It is good to confirm that this is how they think of Americans.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 04, 2013 07:24 AM (31Nrp)

444 RE: wiring Barrycades in place at WWII memorial - This is the same guy that lets criminals into this country, just because "it's the right thing to do." This is the same guy who (wrongly) brags about his (WHITE) grandfather liberating a death camp.

Posted by: Baldy at October 04, 2013 07:25 AM (tyDFN)

445 428 ...and wouldn't even get us back to where we were the day BHO was inaugurated. Just sayin'. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 04, 2013 11:23 AM (N/Sup) There isn't enough money or bleach to erase the debt and the stain.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2013 07:25 AM (WjLUf)

446 "5
Who wants to bet left nuts that dead woman has 20-30 holes in her?


Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 04, 2013 09:39 AM (OH4ZH)"



I seriously doubt their marksmanship is that good.  20 to 30 shots fired?  Yeah, probably.  Hits?  More like 3 to 5.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 04, 2013 07:26 AM (31Nrp)

447 Do you know why Miley Cyrus is a 'famous celebrity'? Because the media realized they have the daughter of a celebrity who was eager and willing to behave like a spectacle and a douche bag in front of the cameras, and that = eyeballs, which in turn = $$.

Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 04, 2013 07:26 AM (yVirp)

448 >> Seriously Jackstraw- draw a VENN diagram regarding the two scenarios- the lady in DC yesterday and the vid you posted. The area of overlap is incredibly small- and none of that overlap is probative regarding use of force. Only if you are being willfully obtuse. I was responding to the statement that she shouldn't have been shot for getting out of her car. Cops have been trained for years to tell people to stay in their cars after they are stopped. They do this for safety reasons. If you want to hop out, go for it. But don't be surprised at the reaction you get. Particularly after you have hit a secret service agent, caused a cop to crash and total his car, crash into the WH gates and then crash at the capital after leading the cops on a high speed chase with shots fired.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 07:27 AM (g1DWB)

449

 "Park Police Now Using Wire To Keep WW 2 Barricades In Place"

 

If only there was some  device, some  tool that could be used to defeat wire.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 04, 2013 07:28 AM (BAS5M)

450 401. My thinking exactly. And they seem to follow orders well.

Posted by: gracepmc at October 04, 2013 07:28 AM (rznx3)

451 I checked....the bar for this evening's Moron Meet-up has a ramp and wheelchair accessible bathrooms. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 04, 2013 11:21 AM (/kU/5) Does it have soft toilet paper and soft cushions for the seats?

Posted by: Don Corleone at October 04, 2013 07:28 AM (1RQeV)

452
Did anybody do the "10 4 Good Buddy" yet for the date?

*Showing my age.*


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 04, 2013 07:28 AM (sj9LN)

453 How much could it cost to let our soldiers continue to watch the baseball playoffs and football? And all the other programming that keeps them in touch with home? Seriously demoralizing and wrong. SCOAMTTspite

Posted by: Justamom at October 04, 2013 07:28 AM (Sptt8)

454 Ooops SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 04, 2013 07:29 AM (1RQeV)

455 432 "5 Who wants to bet left nuts that dead woman has 20-30 holes in her? Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 04, 2013 09:39 AM (OH4ZH)" I seriously doubt their marksmanship is that good. 20 to 30 shots fired? Yeah, probably. Hits? More like 3 to 5. --- This. These cops remind me of the ones from a Ron White routine where the cops unloaded a few clips on a criminal in a car at short range and didn't even hit the car. It was a Suburban, at that.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 07:29 AM (/Crba)

456 When life hands you wire, get wire cutters. QED.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2013 07:30 AM (WjLUf)

457 SCOAMTTspite Posted by: Justamom at October 04, 2013 11:28 AM (Sptt He is the nastiest prick who ever lived in the White House

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 04, 2013 07:30 AM (1RQeV)

458

Harry Reid Apologizes....Then invokes Robert Grand Kleagle Byrd?  WTF?

"The Nevada Democrat said the chamber has “lost the aura” of Sen. Robert C. Byrd, the long-time lawmaker from West Virginia who was seen as a keeper of the chamber’s traditions".................................Paging Trent Lott. Would a Mr. Trent Lott please pick up the red courtesy phone.


Posted by: Minnfidel at October 04, 2013 07:30 AM (S1X4V)

459 jackstraw that not getting out of the car thing ,  or how to "do a traffic stop and not be thought a criminal and killed.
It might be a good idea to put it in the drivers license hand book.

hell it might actually be in there but , it wasn't the norm 25 years ago. at least not where i grew up.

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 07:30 AM (nqBYe)

460 So does that mean that if the WW II vets get inside their own memorial the Park Police will call Obama to tell him that the enemy has gotten inside the wire? Methinks the REMF wouldn't know what "inside the wire" meant.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 07:30 AM (xorT2)

461 My understanding is that the woman in DC was running away when shot.  If that is true, not only would the officers see that she had no weapon, but   also   that there was no imminent threat, ergo, no need to use deadly force.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 04, 2013 07:30 AM (AskuI)

462 421. "When I learned (Flintstones era), getting out was what you did." Whenever he got a speeding ticket driving highways cross country, my dad always got out and stood waiting to talk with the officer, outside of our car. We all sat inside quietly watching (praying he wouldn't get the ticket, just a friendly warning as often as not). I know he gave the officers his drivers license and of course our vehicle's license plate was on the front and the back; but I don't recall the procedure then including the production of vehicle registration let alone proof of insurance for the officer to review. My first time pulled over, I began to open the door and the officer firmly asked me to remain in the vehicle. I was lucky to just get a warning.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 07:30 AM (MhA4j)

463

Do you know why Miley Cyrus is a 'famous celebrity'?

 

Even after reading your   quite cogent explanation, my answer is still, "No."

 

All   I ever see of her is her tongue,  and it's not that big. I'm tempted to tell her not to stick it out unless she's willing to use it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 04, 2013 07:30 AM (0HooB)

464 How much could it cost to let our soldiers continue to watch the baseball playoffs and football? And all the other programming that keeps them in touch with home? Seriously demoralizing and wrong. SCOAMTTspite Posted by: Justamom at October 04, 2013 11:28 AM (Sptt Well, they just lost the military vote. Oh wait. They stopped counting those long ago.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 04, 2013 07:31 AM (XIxXP)

465 If only there was some device, some tool that could be used to defeat wire.

 

 

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 04, 2013 11:28 AM (BAS5M)

 

 

/Col Hogan hands the Boltcutters to Cpl Lebaeu.... 

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 04, 2013 07:31 AM (lZBBB)

466 416. I wonder who issued that order since Big Sis has yet to be replaced.

Posted by: gracepmc at October 04, 2013 07:31 AM (rznx3)

467 so she crashed the SS car or Did the SS guy run into a Barricade He should have known was there? she likely did not know was there ?

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 07:32 AM (nqBYe)

468 And please to be hoisting one (even better, several) for me.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 04, 2013 11:23 AM (0HooB)

The old guy is buying.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 04, 2013 07:32 AM (/kU/5)

469 If only there was some device, some tool that could be used to defeat wire. Send the Vets dykes.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 04, 2013 07:32 AM (XIxXP)

470 "Anyone who has ever been pulled over by the cops for
a traffic stop knows the last thing you ever do is get out of the car."
..............
Yes.. but a few years ago, I got stopped on the highway by a state cop.  As I was pulling over, I hit a big camshaft (or whatever that thing that spins under your car is called) that was on the shoulder. 

I was so worried I screwed my car, I jumped out to see what it was I hit and to examine my car.

The cop was so rattled by that, he only gave me a warning, even though I had been doing about 20 over the limit.. and he also gave me a stern warning to NEVER get out of the car!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 04, 2013 07:32 AM (f9c2L)

471 'just pickin'


Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 07:33 AM (nqBYe)

472 Only if you are being willfully obtuse. I was responding to the statement that she shouldn't have been shot for getting out of her car. One of us is certainly being obtuse here. If she'd tried to hit someone with a sword, dropped the sword and run away, would cops still have had authorization to shoot? SHE HAD ABANDONED HER WEAPON. In fact, the ONLY way she could relinquish her weapon was by getting out of the car- staying in the car kept her in possession of a deadly weapon. There's also the part where you don't get to use the fact that she "clipped" a secret service agent 2 minutes ago (or 3, or 5, or however many it was) to justify use of force now. Let's take a suspect on foot with a gun. He engages with police and then breaks the engagement- running away. Eventually he is surrounded. At that point, and in full view of the officers, he throws his weapon to the ground and tries again to make a break for it. Do the cops get to fire?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 07:33 AM (/PCJa)

473 Giap's ability as a general is in direct proportion to the assistance given him by the Democrat party.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2013 11:20 AM ..............I wonder if Jane Fonda will be attending the memorial. (Scrunt)

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 04, 2013 07:33 AM (S1X4V)

474 Today local news was running the zillionth story on that stupid Tesla car fire at the end the news woman said "because of the government shutdown the federal transportation administration will not be coming to investigate the accident" the stupid story was just a bludgeon to point out once again that the shutdown is "bad" I may have the name of the agency wrong she said it right but my brain is a sieve.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at October 04, 2013 07:33 AM (RZ8pf)

475 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 04, 2013 11:30 AM (0HooB)

I am a bit surprised at all of the attention. She is not particularly good looking. I think she has a certain ferret-like face, and her body is meh.

Anyone ever listen to her music? I haven't so I can't comment, other than I will bet that I won't like it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 04, 2013 07:33 AM (/kU/5)

476

He also would not know what REMF means

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 04, 2013 07:34 AM (R8hU8)

477 Well kids, gotta clean out the car for the trip to Granny's in the Smokies. Later.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 04, 2013 07:34 AM (XIxXP)

478 Meghan McCain was Miley Cyrus before Miley Cyrus was famous. The media 'celebritized' Meghan because she's the daughter of a famous R senator who is willing to make an ass out of herself in front of the cameras.

Posted by: slippery when soothsayer at October 04, 2013 07:34 AM (yVirp)

479 422. "Speaking of computer glitches," Brazil (1985)

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 07:35 AM (MhA4j)

480

If the woman stalked forward toward the police with her hands concealed on her person in a way which  certainly suggested she had a concealed weapon, I stand corrected.    Otherwise the video has nothing to do with what happened in DC.  

Posted by: Beagle at October 04, 2013 07:35 AM (sOtz/)

481 I may have the name of the agency wrong she said it right but my brain is a sieve.

NHTSB?

Like we don't already know why a Tesla car catches on fire.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 07:35 AM (/kI1Q)

482 The woman's behavior and driving was erratic and dangerous. The streets were filled with other cars and pedestrians. Were the police to just let her continue until she killed a civilian? I feel sorry for the woman and her daughter but if it comes down to her or me, she's going down.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 07:35 AM (A/ga/)

483 Does this underage jail have a warden?

Posted by: Harry Reid at October 04, 2013 07:35 AM (KRpfP)

484 464. who is willing to make an ass out of her [vagina] in front of the cameras.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 07:36 AM (MhA4j)

485 Abortion Barbie will go down on your. Hard-on.

Couldn't resist.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2013 07:36 AM (B/VB5)

486 Send the Vets dykes.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 04, 2013 11:32 AM.....................On  the way!  Will there be cake? I loves me some cake, and cookies, and cheese, and waffles, and ice cream and spaghetti and wymens.

Posted by: Rosie Odonnell at October 04, 2013 07:36 AM (S1X4V)

487

Posted by: Justamom at October 04, 2013 11:28 AM (Sptt

 

the Military Appropriations bill, which funds the Military and Vet Affairs... passed the House in late July... and sits in the Senate, waiting for a vote...

 

The Military portion of this can be laid DIRECTLY at Harry Reid's Feet.

 

But the Press is clueless....

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 04, 2013 07:36 AM (lZBBB)

488

Okay, listen up people!   Does everybody know where their Marine sword  is? 

 

 

Just in case you have to get it down to do battle today.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 04, 2013 07:36 AM (N/Sup)

489 Were the police to just let her continue until she killed a civilian? That's not a question. However, she had ceased being a threat when she stopped and exited the vehicle.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 07:37 AM (/PCJa)

490
First footage from Gareth Edwards's upcoming American Godzilla movie  Just ignore the pretentious Robert Oppenheimer voice over.

Video

http://tinyurl.com/phsp6tm




Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 04, 2013 07:37 AM (kdS6q)

491 tap tap

Posted by: FUBAR at October 04, 2013 07:37 AM (Cs2tJ)

492 ACE- A-RAH-A! ACE-A-RAH-A!

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 07:38 AM (A/ga/)

493 Well, they just lost the military vote. Oh wait. They stopped counting those long ago. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 04, 2013 11:31 AM (XIxXP) Now that's a ridiculous statement. You can't count ballots you've never sent in the first place. What do you think the military vote is, Chicago or something?

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 04, 2013 07:38 AM (VtjlW)

494

Send the Vets dykes.Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at October 04, 2013 11:32 AM.....................On the way! Will there be cake? I loves me some cake, and cookies, and cheese, and waffles, and ice cream and spaghetti and wymens.

Posted by: Rosie Odonnell at October 04, 2013 11:36 AM (S1X4V)


****

 

And little Dutch boys.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 04, 2013 07:38 AM (N/Sup)

495 Giap's ability as a general is in direct proportion to the assistance given him by the Democrat party. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 04, 2013 11:20 AM (WjLUf) No shit. If you read his book he talks about how important US media coverage was to his operations.

Posted by: Mainah at October 04, 2013 07:38 AM (659DL)

496 This thread is starting to smell like stale Kaboom...

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at October 04, 2013 07:39 AM (7ObY1)

497 What do you think the military vote is, Chicago or something? Chicago has to get all those extra ballots from somewhere.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 07:39 AM (/PCJa)

498 http://tinyurl.com/nuwbbol Oh look a Leukemia patient lost their coverage under Ogabecare... hey Chad glad you got your way buddy... Posted by: Sven10077 at October 04, 2013 10:59 AM (9jfyN) Good Lord. ThatÂ’s about to change because Michael just got a letter from his insurance carrier saying as of January 1, he would be dropped from coverage because of new regulations under Obamacare. His doctor at the Mayo Clinic may be gone as well. "Now it doesn't mean I can't go see my current doctor, but my $4,500 out-of-pocket, is going to turn into a minimum of $26,000 out-of-pocket to see the doctor that IÂ’ve been seeing the last seven years," he said. Michael realizes millions of people will benefit from the coverage, but he wants them to realize that others are making sacrifices to make that happen. He says that he and his wife will continue to look at their options, try and find a similar plan, and if they need to, theyÂ’ll pick up second jobs. This is why it won't be worth working anymore. What's the point of working harder? It gets you nowhere.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 07:39 AM (IXrOn)

499 Cops really need better tech to immobilize a car. This unarmed crazy lady didn't have to die. If they could just have disabled her car, this would have ended better. But a car's a weapon. If you can't disable it you have to shoot the driver.

I was thinking yesterday they need vehicle trap zones in a couple of places around DC.  Something you can't drive around or through.

How do you tell a whacko Dental Hygienist from a whacko Somali VBIED?

Posted by: DaveA at October 04, 2013 07:40 AM (DL2i+)

500 Slow Joe gonna Slow Joe: http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=37832#respond

Posted by: Country Singer at October 04, 2013 07:40 AM (p++28)

501 481 This thread is starting to smell like stale Kaboom... Posted by: BlueStateRebel at October 04, 2013 11:39 AM (7ObY1) Then put on a sarong and start singing, bud. ACE-A-RAH-A! ACE-A-RA-A!

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 07:41 AM (A/ga/)

502 Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 04, 2013 11:30 AM (0HooB)

I am a bit surprised at all of the attention. She is not particularly good looking. I think she has a certain ferret-like face, and her body is meh...........Bingo. I don't get it. There are a lot more talented better looking celebs out there. I mean can you really count Billy Ray as a celebrity? He actually seemed like he had his shit somewhat together from interviews I read, I can't imagine he's thrilled with his daughter acting like a whooore. And note to Miley. Get some dental work done before you decide your trademark is to stick your gross tongue out. Yeck.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 04, 2013 07:41 AM (S1X4V)

503 Quoting an Ezra Klein article:

As the White House sees it, Speaker John Boehner has begun playing politics as game of Calvinball, in which Republicans invent new rules on the fly and then demand the media and the Democrats accept them as reality and find a way to work around them.

Note the telling phrasing "the media and the Democrats".

And there's no way in hell TFG has ever read Calvin and Hobbes.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2013 07:41 AM (B/VB5)

504 And......BOHICA :


WASHINGTON—Senior Republicans in Congress, frustrated over their inability to strike a deal to reopen the government, began shifting from their drive to undercut the 2010 health-care law, which has been the central element of the dispute, toward a broader budget deal.

The new focus comes as Congress is beginning to confront the need to raise the U.S. debt ceiling, which the Treasury said must be done this month in order to pay the nation's obligations. With federal agencies largely shuttered for a third day, some GOP lawmakers were exploring whether the political stalemate over funding the government could best be resolved by crafting a broader fiscal package that would include an increase in the debt ceiling.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 04, 2013 07:41 AM (sj9LN)

505 The woman's behavior and driving was erratic and dangerous. The streets were filled with other cars and pedestrians. Were the police to just let her continue until she killed a civilian? I feel sorry for the woman and her daughter but if it comes down to her or me, she's going down.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 11:35 AM (A/ga/)

 

 

++++++  ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ 

 

Right, but wrong.  If they had shot her when she was driving crazy right next to them I would agree.   Her dangerous driving had ended when they shot her.  Situations evolve.  It's not a  "once dangerous, always dangerous, can be shot" rule. 

Posted by: Beagle at October 04, 2013 07:41 AM (sOtz/)

506 Maybe that one HeatherRadish. Poor us, the federal government is shut down so there is no one who can investigate. Besides the local fire department. And the police. But still because the government is shut down we will never know the cause of the fire. Except, we do.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at October 04, 2013 07:42 AM (RZ8pf)

507 The last I heard, the House of Representatives has sent 4 separate CRs to the Senate.  Is the DHS (FEMA is a DHS agency) funded in one of them?

Posted by: mrp at October 04, 2013 07:42 AM (HjPtV)

508

The cop was so rattled by that, he only gave me a warning, even though I had been doing about 20 over the limit.. and he also gave me a stern warning to NEVER get out of the car!

 

You can also find cops who will tell you to ALWAYS give them quarter if they need a place to stay.

 

Someone will need to point me to the law that says you have to stay in your car until a cop gives you leave to exit it.

 

If that law doesn't exist?  It's a bullshit requirement.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2013 07:42 AM (TpXEI)

509 Any idea what Boner was talking about?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 04, 2013 07:43 AM (KRpfP)

510 Cops really need better tech to immobilize a car.

And, based on the video yesterday, a lot more time on the range.  At one point they had the car surrounded by cops with guns drawn and none of them hit her.  Reminds me of the recent story where 2 NYC cops shot at a suspect and each of them hit a different innocent bystander.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2013 07:43 AM (B/VB5)

511 Iowa Republican party warns Iowans about police
http://is.gd/TpSFPI

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 07:43 AM (/kI1Q)

512 Thank Gaia for Global Warming. And short shorts. wondering if IT can move my computer outside in front of Metro...

Posted by: RWC at October 04, 2013 07:44 AM (fWAjv)

513 He actually seemed like he had his shit somewhat together from interviews I read, I can't imagine he's thrilled with his daughter acting like a whooore. And note to Miley. Get some dental work done before you decide your trademark is to stick your gross tongue out. Yeck. Posted by: Minnfidel at October 04, 2013 11:41 AM (S1X4V) She started acting like a whoooore when she was 15 and with her parents permission. Before she went all gangsta, she really was quite attractive.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 07:44 AM (A/ga/)

514 Poor us, the federal government is shut down so there is no one who can investigate. Besides the local fire department. And the police.

And Tesla, pretty sure they have someone on staff who can read the data on the car's recorders. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 07:44 AM (/kI1Q)

515 At one point they had the car surrounded by cops with guns drawn and none of them hit her. Actually, this is one point where I agree with Jackstraw- she might have been hit while in the car. As far as I know we haven't heard specifically otherwise. If she was hit while in the car, but was having some sort of psychotic break, she might not have even realized she'd been hit. Thus the (then) driving away. So it's possible she bled-out from a wound in the initial barrage. If that's the case, then this goes firmly back into "good shoot." If it's not, well, then it's not.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 07:45 AM (/PCJa)

516 Day 4 of the Shutdown means that the Obamas are probably running low on cracked crab and lobster tail.  Butter reserves must be approaching emergency air lift status.

Posted by: Fritz at October 04, 2013 07:46 AM (UzPAd)

517 A day or so ago there was a video of a cat batting stuff off of a desk. Anyone recall which thread that was hooked to?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 04, 2013 07:46 AM (aDwsi)

518 if the federal govt being shut down effects anyone but a fed employee.
the fed govt has too much control.

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 07:46 AM (nqBYe)

519 "I will get out of my car any damn time I want.

The cop can take a few steps back and be ready if he wants, but I'm not staying in my car because the cop's training videos make me a menace in his mind.

Posted by: eman at October 04, 2013 11:09 AM (AO9UG)"



Well, you can do it that way if you like.  If something accidentally goes sideways the cop will get a letter of reprimand in his permanent record and you will be dead.



But, hey, don't let anybody tell you what to do.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 04, 2013 07:46 AM (31Nrp)

520 I think the media plays up Miley Cyrus because she was a cute teen star on disney channel and now she is the whore of Babylon (rapylon?).

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at October 04, 2013 07:46 AM (RZ8pf)

521 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 11:33 AM (/PCJa) whether in public or at home, small scale or big operation Precedence "Because I Could" Clinton wasted families and an entire community. And the media never covered the victims' side, to impartially counter to the official rationale. When the FBI/ATF got tired of terrorizing the Branch Davidians holed up begging to surrender to the Texas Rangers, JackStraw's Rule of Order proceeded. The citizens asked to be shot and burnt to death because they refused to surrender to terrorism (as they saw it). And the Federal agents were blameless to not hold the siege they initiated for the duration, to await the community or some stragglers to surrender eventually. ...All's fair in love and war. And in hate and peace.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 07:47 AM (MhA4j)

522 Obama's Hostages

Thousands of tourists are unexpectedly finding parks closed, nobody there, hotel and campsite reservations useless at Yosemite, Sequoia, Yellowstone, Great Smoky Mountains, Big Bend, Acacia, Denali, and 394 other NPS destinations. The personal disruption and loss will be horrendous.

Groups of Grand Canyon river rafters are being stopped at Lee’s Ferry, Arizona, by armed park rangers, banned from floating down the Colorado River through the national park – one group from Philadelphia spent over $30,000 for the non-adventure and faces hundreds of dollars more for flight-change fees to go home disappointed.

Posted by: drivebylurker at October 04, 2013 07:47 AM (5ikDv)

523

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 04, 2013 11:36 AM (N/Sup)

 

Marine sword?  uh... no.... but...

 

/looks at the sword collection in his office...

 

Hmm.... Katana?  Claymore?  Longsword?  Cup Hilt Rapier? orrr.. hmmm...

 

/looks at the picture of his win at a National 5 Man Elizabethan Fencing tournament...

 

Yeah.... now that I've rebalanced the sabre.... and put a Left hand hilt so I can use the 45 in the right hand....

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 04, 2013 07:47 AM (lZBBB)

524 A day or so ago there was a video of a cat batting stuff off of a desk. Anyone recall which thread that was hooked to?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 04, 2013 11:46 AM (aDwsi)

 

That was the palate cleanser thread from Day 1 or 2 of the Shut Down.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 04, 2013 07:47 AM (4df7R)

525 "I think there is something about the state of television that is so promising for this show."

Bait...don't take it.....you have been warned...Submission for informational and entertainment purposes only. No malware; Fox News can be trusted.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/opvokm6


Posted by: Not buyin' it at October 04, 2013 07:48 AM (/7zt4)

526 Miley was a big deal in the tweener set. She made over $125 million. I don't know how successful she is now. Time will tell...

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 07:49 AM (A/ga/)

527 505 I think the media plays up Miley Cyrus because she was a cute teen star on disney channel and now she is the whore of Babylon (rapylon?).    

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at October 04, 2013 11:46 AM (RZ8pf)

 

 

Ahhh yesss.... the corruption of innocence.... an oldey, but a goody!

Posted by: Can you say... SATAN! at October 04, 2013 07:49 AM (lZBBB)

528 Winner - Engineer(s) who designed the pop-up barrier. I'll bet they are smiling..., as they ought to.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 04, 2013 07:49 AM (aDwsi)

529 "And, based on the video yesterday, a lot more time on the range." The streets have become the range.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 07:50 AM (MhA4j)

530 President Brackets McSportypants is cancelling AFN sports broadcasts? I'm sure the sports media will be all up in his grill...

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 04, 2013 07:50 AM (ZshNr)

531

Thousands of tourists are unexpectedly finding parks closed, nobody
there, hotel and campsite reservations useless at Yosemite, Sequoia,
Yellowstone, Great Smoky Mountains, Big Bend, Acacia, Denali, and 394
other NPS destinations. The personal disruption and loss will be
horrendous.

 

THIS is what should have everyone enraged.    There is flat out no reason for any of this.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 04, 2013 07:50 AM (4df7R)

532 Ok, the "narrow" CR funding bills were defeated in the House because the rules required a 2/3 majority for passage.

Posted by: mrp at October 04, 2013 07:50 AM (HjPtV)

533 I think circumstances dictate things. Pulled over on the shoulder is dangerous; let the nice person in uniform come to you. Years ago, I pulled over in a parking lot for what I presumed was a tail light out or something (expired tag) and I just jumped right out. Maybe that's the real reason why I got the full-car drug search! mindfulwebworks.com/radical/officer-green.html

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 04, 2013 07:50 AM (aPEuQ)

534 @513: No kidding.  They totalled a Crown Vic with that thing.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2013 07:51 AM (B/VB5)

535 Well, you can do it that way if you like. If something accidentally goes sideways the cop will get a letter of reprimand in his permanent record and you will be dead. But, hey, don't let anybody tell you what to do. Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 04, 2013 11:46 AM (31Nrp) Then I'll be dead.

Posted by: eman at October 04, 2013 07:51 AM (AO9UG)

536 >>One of us is certainly being obtuse here. >>If she'd tried to hit someone with a sword, dropped the sword and run away, would cops still have had authorization to shoot? >>SHE HAD ABANDONED HER WEAPON. In fact, the ONLY way she could relinquish her weapon was by getting out of the car- staying in the car kept her in possession of a deadly weapon. >>There's also the part where you don't get to use the fact that she "clipped" a secret service agent 2 minutes ago (or 3, or 5, or however many it was) to justify use of force now. >>Let's take a suspect on foot with a gun. He engages with police and then breaks the engagement- running away. Eventually he is surrounded. At that point, and in full view of the officers, he throws his weapon to the ground and tries again to make a break for it. >>Do the cops get to fire? Ah, so your super secret detective sklllz would guarantee that if said person dropped the sword they wouldn't have another weapon? The details of this are still coming out. Like the report that just came out that she had a verbal confrontation with the SS *before* ramming the gate and hitting him. Might be kind of interesting to hear what she said before assuming this was jackbooted thuggery, don't ya think? Oh the report also said that it appears she never got out of the car. So it is equally likely that after hitting the SS, after causing a cop to crash, after leading a high speed gun shot filled car chase from the WH to the Capital she did not in fact drop her sword and refused to obey the cops. So is that the new rule? We are allowed to hit cops with a deadly weapon and threaten the health and security of others and lead gun shot filled high speed chases in the middle of DC and continue to ignore the directions of cops to stand down and if they shoot us they are wrong? Oh, ok.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 07:51 AM (g1DWB)

537 "In The Last Shutdown, The GOP Blinked Just As Clinton Was About To Fold"
---
So many seem to forget that piece of history.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at October 04, 2013 07:51 AM (7mQyC)

538 Groups of Grand Canyon river rafters are being stopped at LeeÂ’s Ferry, Arizona, by armed park rangers If there's the money to pay them to stand there and threaten to shoot people who are trying to enter the park that those people own, there's the money to pay to keep the parks open. Yes, yes, I know the House keeps passing the CRs to do that but shhh I'm on a roll. Can anyone point me to the legal authority by which the parks are closed? I'm not being entirely snarky, I'm sure it exists, I simply don't recall what it is off the top of my head. I do have a horrible suspicion that this is going to end in a shooting death, just as TFG et al want.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 04, 2013 07:51 AM (VtjlW)

539 In the meantime, overseas troops who typically look forward to watching NFL games and the baseball playoffs provided by the Armed Forces Network, will get little if any service due to the shutdown... FUCKING DICKWAD. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 04, 2013 11:18 AM (4df7R) So, ESPN, how do you like your pos idol, now? Call me a H8ter.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 07:52 AM (IXrOn)

540 The other thing I notice from the video...there were a shit ton of people out and about near that shooting.

The closed sections of Pennsylvania Ave. are effectively a pedestrian mall now.

Posted by: DaveA at October 04, 2013 07:52 AM (DL2i+)

541

Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2013 11:43 AM (B/VB5)

 

Its not clear from the video... but when did they first start shooting?

 

Because if one of the 'cops' sent off a shot early, it would explain her trying to get away.... and all the ensued...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 04, 2013 07:52 AM (lZBBB)

542 Any idea what Boner was talking about?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 04, 2013 11:43 AM ......................Was he crying? Oh and Harry Reid (sort of) apologized and invoked Robert KKK Byrd. Geebus. Can you imagine if a senator invoked the memory of an old racist? Oh wait, yes, Trent Lott can. Of course it's a hypocritical double standard so the left won't say shit about it natch.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 04, 2013 07:52 AM (S1X4V)

543 If that law doesn't exist? It's a bullshit requirement. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
..........
It's not a requirement.. and not a law..

It is for safety reasons.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 04, 2013 07:53 AM (f9c2L)

544

IS is what should have everyone enraged. There is flat out no reason for any of this.

 

 

All of the river sections that are below Fed Operated Dams are closed right now.  They only operate the dams and campgrounds.  The boat launches require no personnel, but they immediately closed the gates and locked them up.

Not because the feds do anything but clean the shitters and collect camping fees, but to inconvenience the populous.

Posted by: garrett at October 04, 2013 07:54 AM (OhOhI)

545 @525: The sports media slobbers over Obama more than MSNBC.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2013 07:54 AM (B/VB5)

546 The idiot NPS tried to close down Mt. Vernon which is privately owned. lol

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 07:54 AM (A/ga/)

547 The cops deal with crazies all of the time. Don't give the impression that you might be a crazy. Window down, hands on the wheel, politeness. You have everything to gain, and nothing to lose. If you have a chance, do a ride-along with the local cops, it will convey to you the crap they have to deal with all of the time. I'm not defending bad/poorly trained cops, I'm just saying it's a stressful job, and it is just bad form to add to the stress.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 04, 2013 07:55 AM (aDwsi)

548 Winner - Engineer(s) who designed the pop-up barrier. I'll bet they are smiling..., as they ought to. Splash one bogey!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 07:55 AM (xorT2)

549

So is that the new rule? We are allowed to hit cops with a deadly weapon and threaten the health and security of others and lead gun shot filled high speed chases in the middle of DC and continue to ignore the directions of cops to stand down and if they shoot us they are wrong?

 

See, you're being obtuse.  You can shoot at someone in possession of a deadly weapon.  When the weapon is gone, you can't keep shooting at them.

 

You keep trying to bring the earlier actions into what is a very simple situation - if she was unarmed, and out of the vehicle, there was no reason to shoot her.

This isn't a problem for you?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2013 07:56 AM (TpXEI)

550 "474
Okay, listen up people! Does everybody know where their Marine sword is?


Just in case you have to get it down to do battle today.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 04, 2013 11:36 AM (N/Sup)"



Marine swords are for people who are A) Marines B) officers.



We peons had entrenching tools.  Not quite as elegant but in the same ball park for effectiveness.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 04, 2013 07:56 AM (31Nrp)

551 Off to put out fires.

Take some chili with you.

*belch*

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 07:56 AM (/kI1Q)

552 "Boehner has begun playing politics as game of Calvinball, in which Republicans invent new rules on the fly..." Boehner? No. Cruz, yeah.

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 04, 2013 07:58 AM (RM1gx)

553 All of the river sections that are below Fed Operated Dams are closed right now. They only operate the dams and campgrounds. The boat launches require no personnel, but they immediately closed the gates and locked them

Posted by: garrett at October 04, 2013 11:54 AM ...................................There was a story on HA yesterday in the Green Room where Walker in WI  essentially told the feds to suck it and  told his DNR guys to go reopen the boat  launches. LOL.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 04, 2013 07:58 AM (S1X4V)

554 Groups of Grand Canyon river rafters are being stopped at LeeÂ’s Ferry, Arizona, by armed park rangers. wiki: Lee's Ferry is designated within the southwesternmost extreme of Glen Canyon National Recreation Area and is considered the northernmost end of Grand Canyon National Park alexthechick, you're right that it is not a matter of saving any money, the opposite in fact. And that "Because I Could" Obama is setting up circumstances that will sorely try patience and end tragically, NEEDLESSLY. Rafters need to float where rivers aren't designated federal land. (good luck at that) There are a lot of Reservations throughout AZ that host entertainment for tourists wherein Obama has NO SAY.

Posted by: panzernashorn at October 04, 2013 07:58 AM (MhA4j)

555 I'm not defending bad/poorly trained cops, I'm just saying it's a stressful job, and it is just bad form to add to the stress.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 04, 2013 11:55 AM (aDwsi)


while i sympathize And I DO.

 I'm sure the ill woman by all accounts wasn't having a good day either.

just a comment, don't drag out a sword or anything!


Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 07:59 AM (nqBYe)

556

>>Okay, listen up people! Does everybody know where their Marine sword is? <<

 

Don't have one. I do have a garden pitchfork. Just need to file the points  nice  and  sharp.

Posted by: Roy at October 04, 2013 07:59 AM (VndSC)

557 >>See, you're being obtuse. You can shoot at someone in possession of a deadly weapon. When the weapon is gone, you can't keep shooting at them. I guess you missed the part where she did not get out of the car. Weapon not dropped.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 08:00 AM (g1DWB)

558 Did someone deem the Ewok to be a nonessential employee of the blog?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 04, 2013 08:01 AM (/Crba)

559 Hey, Jersey morons, is it worth it parking in Hoboken for tonight's meetup? I don't mind the extra expense. I looked at the train schedule and I'd rather just head back to PA as soon as we're done.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 04, 2013 08:02 AM (r+7wo)

560

Rafters need to float where rivers aren't designated federal land. (good luck at that)

 

 

It's just the access points.   Most waterways belong either to private landowners and states.  The feds just operate certain access points.   Usually those immediately below the  dams.

The thing that pisses me off is they charge me a commercial use fee, and then close the ramps I want to use.

Posted by: garrett at October 04, 2013 08:02 AM (OhOhI)

561 also i would again like to make a  note.

Applause of the House when  the "terror" was dealt with.

so this is what they'd been hearing, And what those dealing with the "terror" thought.
wrongly. but
o fk it. i'm out of thoughts.
(thank g-d yes ?)

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 08:02 AM (nqBYe)

562

Groups of Grand Canyon river rafters are being
stopped at LeeÂ’s Ferry, Arizona, by armed park rangers, banned from
floating down the Colorado River through the national park

 

They're just following orders.  Keep repeating that.  They're good people.  They wouldn't think of shooting you if you kept on down the river.

 

 Â– one group
from Philadelphia spent over $30,000 for the non-adventure and faces
hundreds of dollars more for flight-change fees to go home disappointed.

 

Filthadelphia?  Probably Barky voters.  Fuck them.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 04, 2013 08:03 AM (zF6Iw)

563 I have a spade.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 04, 2013 08:04 AM (KRpfP)

564

NEW THREAD PLEASE

 

content furloughed

Posted by: thunderb at October 04, 2013 08:04 AM (zOTsN)

565 Rafters need to float where rivers aren't designated federal land. Floaters gonna float.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 08:04 AM (xorT2)

566 rafting or tubing is one of the funnest things ever. mho

Posted by: willow at October 04, 2013 08:05 AM (nqBYe)

567 Iowa Republican party warns Iowans about police http://is.gd/TpSFPI Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 11:43 AM (/kI1Q) This is weird.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 04, 2013 08:05 AM (IXrOn)

568

I think its dicked up that NPR is still on but baseball and football games to the troops overseas are cut off

 

does he think they wont figure this out

 

does he think they have no internet

 

what a dick

Posted by: thunderb at October 04, 2013 08:07 AM (zOTsN)

569 Aren't those rafting expeditions organized by private contractors?  Are those contractors required to have a federal permit to raft down that section of the river?

Posted by: mrp at October 04, 2013 08:07 AM (HjPtV)

570 550Groups of Grand Canyon river rafters are being stopped at LeeÂ’s Ferry, Arizona, by armed park rangers, banned from floating down the Colorado River through the national park

They're just following orders. Keep repeating that. They're good people. They wouldn't think of shooting you if you kept on down the river.

– one group from Philadelphia spent over $30,000 for the non-adventure and faces hundreds of dollars more for flight-change fees to go home disappointed.

Filthadelphia? Probably Barky voters. Fuck them.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 04, 2013 12:03 PM (zF6Iw)

 

Whoops, couldn't stop.  The operation to get those 'lawbreakers' would be benny hill-esque.  Seriously?  Armed with big, black scary looking rifles?  Permission to fire on rafters floating thru a park?  What a fucking joke.

Posted by: Red Shirt at October 04, 2013 08:07 AM (FIDMq)

571 552 NEW THREAD PLEASE content furloughed Posted by: thunderb No kidding- this one is beyond "hoary."

Posted by: backhoe at October 04, 2013 08:08 AM (ULH4o)

572 Weird, well maybe, I thought it was refreshing to see a Repub on the side of the People and the Constitution.

Posted by: sneaky little chelsea five-eyes at October 04, 2013 08:08 AM (3X3ZR)

573 rafting or tubing is one of the funnest things ever. mho Posted by: willow -------------------------------- Like most things, I've seen it go bad. Failure to anticipate rapids or bad weather. Choose your river carefully.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 04, 2013 08:08 AM (aDwsi)

574 "A day or so ago there was a video of a cat batting stuff off of a desk. Anyone recall which thread that was hooked to?" -Mike Hammer Will our Sylvester-cat in the office do? How many minutes would you like? He can do that all day. I need to post pix of the cardboard filebox we let him have as a scratching post!

Posted by: mindful webworker - choose at October 04, 2013 08:08 AM (RM1gx)

575

Are those contractors required to have a federal permit to raft down that section of the river?

 

Yes.  We pay for Permits to Float and Usage Fees for the Parking Lots / Boat Ramps.

Posted by: garrett at October 04, 2013 08:08 AM (OhOhI)

576

NPS 1st Armored Division  -- coming soon!

Posted by: Beagle at October 04, 2013 08:08 AM (sOtz/)

577 I think its dicked up that NPR is still on but baseball and football games to the troops overseas are cut off

does he think they wont figure this out

does he think they have no internet

what a dick

 

Posted by: thunderb at October 04, 2013 12:07 PM (zOTsN)

 

Why should he care?

 

They won't vote for him;

Their  votes won't be counted;

If they get uppity, his officers will put them in their place.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 04, 2013 08:09 AM (zF6Iw)

578

rafting or tubing is one of the funnest things ever

 

Yes.  But be careful.  Even the most placid looking river will kill you if you make a mistake.

Posted by: garrett at October 04, 2013 08:09 AM (OhOhI)

579 Iowa Republican party warns Iowans about police http://is.gd/TpSFPI Posted by: HeatherRadish� needs a beer at October 04, 2013 11:43 AM (/kI1Q) This is weird. Very.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 08:09 AM (xorT2)

580 As a Philadelphian who is certainly not a Zero voter, I echo your sentiments, MPPPP. They are going to come back and whine that the eeeevil Republicans did this to them, and the local media will be lapping it up.

Today, though, they're going off on Gov. Corbett, who inartfully copmpared gay "marriage", and must now be flogged by the usual suspects.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 04, 2013 08:10 AM (YmPwQ)

581 Pissy calzontotas.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 04, 2013 08:10 AM (KRpfP)

582 Yo, Mike Hammer, found it for ya: http://tinyurl.com/nbklxyc

Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 04, 2013 08:10 AM (naUcP)

583 Nood

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 04, 2013 08:10 AM (bCEmE)

584 Permits to Float

FFS.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 04, 2013 08:11 AM (/kI1Q)

585

what a petty small tyrant

 

what a dick

 

Posted by: thunderb at October 04, 2013 08:12 AM (zOTsN)

586 The Searchlight Strangler doesn't care about the law, the truth, or the constitution but now he suddenly cares about a senate rule he has broken with impunity myriad times? Does Harry think he and the Indonesian Idiot are winning? Is that why he is now apologizing?

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 04, 2013 08:12 AM (PjgvN)

587

Gather all your belongings and grab Willow too!

Posted by: Red Shirt at October 04, 2013 08:12 AM (FIDMq)

588
Well.... if Our President is willing to put the screws to ordinary folk because he's pissed at Republicans....closing parks, kicking kids out of chemo, using armed guards against kayakers..... think what he's capable of if the whole shooting match collapses and we find ourselves living by Thunderdome rules.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 04, 2013 08:12 AM (nELVU)

589 That should read: "who inartfully compared gay "marriage to incest".

Yeah, I know, what's the context? Doesn't matter. Burn him.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 04, 2013 08:13 AM (YmPwQ)

590 Nood up. Grab willow!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 04, 2013 08:13 AM (xorT2)

591

Permission to fire on rafters floating thru a park? What a fucking joke.

 

Nope.  We've seen over the past couple of days that NPS people are assholes.  And an asshole with a gun - whose authoritah is being disrespected - is dangerous.  I can very easily imagine a ranger firing a "warning shot" just before a "sink the raft" and a "shoot to kill" shot.

 

In fact, I guarantee you that at least one of the rangers is hoping someone mouths off so he can  shoot.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 04, 2013 08:13 AM (zF6Iw)

592 I guess you missed the part where she did not get out of the car. Weapon not dropped.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 12:00 PM (g1DWB)

 

Here's where I have a problem, JackStraw.     The woman's only weapon was her car.  When    the car was no longer moving, she was no longer a KNOWN threat.  She was not at that point driving her car AT anyone.  Were she barreling towards a cop or a pedestrian or even another car at the time     then yes, okay.   But the car had crashed and was apparently disabled.  At no time had she fired a weapon at the pursuing law enforcement officers; she was not actively shooting at them    after    the car crashed either.    

 

There are car chases on the news every day in which a lunatic goes zigging and zagging wildly through traffic on a busy freeway or city street, cops screaming in pursuit.   Rarely do you see the police take out their guns and fire on the vehicle except as a last resort; and even then they're   likely to     fire first at the tires.     Even when the person behind the wheel is a known criminal   who is probably armed, they don't just    shoot the driver after the car's been disabled.    That would only come into play if the driver refuses to cooperate    even after being warned,  or if the driver makes a move that indicates they're going to use a weapon   or assault an officer.    None of that appears to be the case in this situation; if it is, we'll find out in due time.

 

We don't know everything that happened yesterday.  I doubt we'll ever know everything.   But there is something about this that is just not right.  

 

That said, I'm sure that whatever    LEOs   contributed to this woman's death are feeling pretty awful right now.    Killing someone is bad enough, but killing a young mother,   who may have been suffering from mental problems,   in front of her toddler     has got to rank    among    the worst.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 04, 2013 08:14 AM (4df7R)

593 Aren't those rafting expeditions organized by private contractors? Are those contractors required to have a federal permit to raft down that section of the river? Posted by: mrp ----------------------- As we all know, this has NOTHING to do with funding. It is designed to discomfort as many people as possible with the certainty that the media will spin it as the Republicans fault. I note in passing that most of the venues 'closed' are those that are demographically appealing to white folk, you know, like a Churchill bust. Whether intentional or not, it is a simple truth.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 04, 2013 08:17 AM (aDwsi)

594 Woman Killed Yesterday Thought Obama Was Stalking Her That was her reality. Who are we to try to impose our reality on her?

Posted by: edj[/i] at October 04, 2013 08:20 AM (klzyR)

595

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 11:27 AM (g1DWB)------- I have heard conflicting reports she did not hit anyone or anything, but the cop/SS guy hurt himself & his car on his own.

Posted by: Baldy at October 04, 2013 08:21 AM (tyDFN)

596 However, she had ceased being a threat when she stopped and exited the vehicle.

Not anymore and especially not in the Capitol area of DC.  Wait til someone publishes a map of the whole thing.  It certainly sounds like everything happened right smack downtown DC which ain't very big and is splodey target thick.

Posted by: DaveA at October 04, 2013 08:23 AM (DL2i+)

597

86 Fort Worth. How did you elect Wendy Davis? She has all the intelligence brain-dead bacterium. Really, WTF?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 04, 2013 10:01 AM (/PCJa)

 

 

 

When she was on City Council  (she was our neighborhood's representative) , she seemed harmless enough; it's when she got to State office that she got too big for her britches.

 

I'll confess - Mr. TiFW and I both voted for her, because we knew her late father; he was good people.

 

Haven't voted for her since she got into State office.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at October 04, 2013 08:23 AM (PZ6/M)

598 >>I have heard conflicting reports she did not hit anyone or anything, but the cop/SS guy hurt himself his car on his own. “Whoa! Whoa!,” Secret Service officers were shouting at the car, according to a witness, Shawn Joseph, 29. “It looked liked [the driver was] scared or lost. I thought they might have been a tourist.” But then, witnesses said, officers tried to place a barrier in front of the car. The driver swerved. The officers moved the barrier. She hit it, and a Secret Service officer was thrown up on the hood and then off the car. http://tinyurl.com/ptrjvlx

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 08:24 AM (g1DWB)

599 And, based on the video yesterday, a lot more time on the range

The other video shows DCPD doesn't get a lot of hi-speed driving practice either.

Posted by: DaveA at October 04, 2013 08:27 AM (DL2i+)

600 "532 The idiot NPS tried to close down Mt. Vernon which is privately owned. lol

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 04, 2013 11:54 AM (A/ga/)"



The thing about these many overreaches is that they are the perfect counter to Democrat whining.



Democrat:  What about the people who will starve because they don't get WIC (or whatever is their particular victim of government shutdown)?


Reply:  What is essential and what is nonessential is decided by President Obama and the Executive Branch.  If they cared more about WIC they would continue that instead of spending the money on Park Police and barricades to keep Americans from visiting open air monuments or financially self supporting museums and parks.  Most of those parks not only do not cost the government anything but they actually pay money into the general fund from the user fees.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 04, 2013 08:29 AM (31Nrp)

601 >>That said, I'm sure that whatever LEOs contributed to this woman's death are feeling pretty awful right now. Killing someone is bad enough, but killing a young mother, who may have been suffering from mental problems, in front of her toddler has got to rank among the worst. Couldn't agree more. I doubt anyone is happy about this outcome.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2013 08:34 AM (g1DWB)

602 If Obama had a sister, she might look like Miriam Carey.

Posted by: El Gordo at October 04, 2013 09:40 AM (AlOQa)

603 Hmmmmm......
be.com/watch?v=LQbHnLSasfQ

For all the good cops out there, just kidding.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 04, 2013 09:41 AM (TPimP)

604 Damn....one more time.
http://tinyurl.com/6mbw33

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at October 04, 2013 09:43 AM (TPimP)

605 Looks like political gladiator Cruz has got some friends, to say the least. http://2016cruz.org/?p=1#comment-5

Posted by: Stephen at October 07, 2013 12:07 PM (AytuB)

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