March 23, 2013
— Pixy Misa A lot worse.
According to people involved with both campaigns, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich came close to running on a unity ticket in the primaries.
As Mitt Romney struggled in the weeks leading up to the Michigan primary, Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum nearly agreed to form a joint “Unity Ticket” to consolidate conservative support and topple Romney. “We were close,” former Representative Bob Walker, a Gingrich ally, says. “Everybody thought there was an opportunity.” “It would have sent shock waves through the establishment and the Romney campaign,” says John Brabender, Santorum’s chief strategist.
If you haven't totally suppressed your memory of the 2012 primaries, you'll recall that Mitt and Rick split Iowa, Mitt took New Hampshire, and Newt won big in South Carolina. Newt looked to solidify himself as the one and only viable not-Mitt candidate in the race. But, an awful debate performance and a Mitt Romney attack ad barrage sealed Newt's fate in the great state of Florida.
The Santorum campaign, seeing its chance to be the next not-Mitt candidate, decided to approach the Gingrich campaign with an idea. An idea so crazy it just might work would have never worked and was microcosm of the idiotic nature of the Santorum campaign.
Brabender(w/ the Santorum campaign) wasn’t short on moxie: He wanted Gingrich to declare in the middle of a nationally televised debate that he was dropping out and endorsing Santorum. “I couldn’t write an ad to match the political theater that would have created,” he says.
Obviously team Gingrich couldn't accept that offer, so Gingrich countered with an equally sane and grounded offer offer that was equally stupid.
He proposed that both men join forces but remain in the race, each concentrating on the states where he matched up best against Romney. Gingrich thought he could carry Georgia, Delaware, Washington, and Wisconsin (from which his wife, Callista, hails). Santorum would focus on other states in the South and the upper Midwest. But there was a catch. “The appeal of a Unity Ticket was strength in numbers,” says Kellyanne Conway, Gingrich’s pollster.
That's right. A unity ticket. How would it have worked in practice? Who knows. It doesn't look like the Santorum or Gingrich campaign really thought it out that far.
Can any of you guess why the unity ticket never came about?
But the negotiations collapsed in acrimony because Gingrich and Santorum could not agree on who would get to be president.
Of course you guessed that, we all did.
It's a shame to look back and think we had the opportunity to lose to Obama by 10% and passed it up.
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Posted by: Andy at March 23, 2013 03:14 PM (hjRtO)
Posted by: pep at March 23, 2013 03:15 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: MoeRon at March 23, 2013 03:18 PM (RMqJU)
Posted by: JDTAY at March 23, 2013 03:18 PM (a0nis)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 23, 2013 03:19 PM (UCv7P)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 23, 2013 03:20 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 23, 2013 07:21 PM (MhA4j)
What is the problem with Jindal?
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 23, 2013 03:23 PM (/ZHx6)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's award-winning solid gold diaphragm at March 23, 2013 03:23 PM (7xeJQ)
Posted by: Elizabethe at March 23, 2013 03:24 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Andy at March 23, 2013 03:24 PM (hjRtO)
For God's sake, flip a freaking coin.
Posted by: pep at March 23, 2013 03:24 PM (6TB1Z)
Cloudy with a chance of shit storms.
"@PoliticalTicker 9m
Bloomberg's gun violence group launches $12 million major ad buy"
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at March 23, 2013 03:25 PM (UCv7P)
As much as I'd like to see a third party emerge, that's a sure way to just give everything to the dash-Ds. So, what do we do? Purge the party of Democrat-lites? Or do they purge the conservatives? Who the hell knows, but I think the coming financial crises will change the shape of both parties.
As Bette Davis said, "Hold on tight...it's going to be a bumpy ride."
Posted by: Maus at March 23, 2013 03:27 PM (amo0F)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at March 23, 2013 03:27 PM (gBSVA)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 23, 2013 03:27 PM (mJgw5)
Posted by: Rex Ryan at March 23, 2013 03:28 PM (fVRdn)
I think Newt might have been the only bastard, who wouild have been bastard enough, to set the course right.
The rest would have folded as the media showed picture after picture of American children dying because of government spending cuts.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at March 23, 2013 03:28 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 23, 2013 03:29 PM (Lq5WC)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 23, 2013 03:30 PM (mJgw5)
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 23, 2013 03:30 PM (/l8GL)
And every time he's televised it'd be the best show on television.
A ratings blockbuster.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 23, 2013 03:31 PM (4Mv1T)
I'm going to just brush up on my daytime drinking to get ready for that.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at March 23, 2013 03:32 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 23, 2013 03:32 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: clemenza at March 23, 2013 03:32 PM (HMQ8k)
Posted by: Andy at March 23, 2013 07:14 PM (hjRtO)
Create a new bookmark and where the url should go, type: javascript:location.reload(true)
call it 'Refresh' or something similar so you remember what it does. When you want to refresh the page for new comments, tap it instead of the usual reload icon and it will refresh the page and return you to wherever you were on the page with new comments below. No annoying scrolling needed.
Posted by: Retread at March 23, 2013 03:33 PM (zxitI)
Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at March 23, 2013 03:33 PM (5hNpF)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at March 23, 2013 03:33 PM (mJgw5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 23, 2013 03:33 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 23, 2013 03:34 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: mama winger at March 23, 2013 03:34 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: clemenza at March 23, 2013 03:35 PM (HMQ8k)
Maybe not. There's talk of sharply limiting the number of debates, the party selecting the debate moderators, and best of all, Lincoln-Douglas style debates. It all comes down to the candidates, of course, and there are a lot of good possibilities in the chute.
Posted by: pep at March 23, 2013 03:36 PM (6TB1Z)
There's a bench in 2016 (*ahem*Scott Fuckin' Walker). Plus, there's no-one else who's going to whine "but it's my turn!" like what we had in '08 and '12 (and '88 and '96 and, okay, '80).
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 23, 2013 03:36 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: traye at March 23, 2013 03:36 PM (99vXN)
Heh.
Mind you, I think I said the same thing about Ron Paul back in 2009...
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 23, 2013 03:37 PM (QTHTd)
And again
Posted by: pep at March 23, 2013 03:38 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Skunk Baxter at March 23, 2013 03:38 PM (xhUAQ)
Posted by: pep at March 23, 2013 07:36 PM (6TB1Z)
Until they tell those fucking hayseeds in Iowa to go fuck themselves and get their ethanol-based fat asses to the back of the line, along with New Hampshire and South Carolina, any changes won't mean jackshit.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 23, 2013 03:39 PM (/l8GL)
Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at March 23, 2013 03:41 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Joe at March 23, 2013 03:42 PM (KHqmy)
Posted by: angel with a sword at March 23, 2013 03:42 PM (mDVDU)
Posted by: Dept. Of Accuracy Dept. at March 23, 2013 03:43 PM (MhA4j)
Yeah. It should probably turn into an open thread.
Here's Ayrun Sun
http://tinyurl.com/brlobw9
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 23, 2013 03:43 PM (QTHTd)
Captain, things can change without that, but I agree with you that we should do it, just because I'm sick of those preening jackasses.
Posted by: pep at March 23, 2013 03:43 PM (6TB1Z)
Newt would have instantly called the media out on that shit. He probably would have lost the election, but the pretense suffusing the effort would have been punctured, and that would have been healthy.
I don't think much of the guy's judgment in many ways. But the one thing about which his judgment is crystal-clear and laser-accurate is that the media are NOT neutral arbiters. Not even remotely close to it. They're outright, shameless partisan hacks.
And Gingrich had no fear of shining a spotlight on that. Whereas R/R shakily shit themselves in fear at the thought that they might "alienate" the press corps. A press corps who already hated both of them with the heat of a thousand exploding suns and weren't shy about the fact.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 23, 2013 03:45 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at March 23, 2013 03:46 PM (aTfg2)
Posted by: clemenza at March 23, 2013 03:47 PM (HMQ8k)
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Agreed.
If, as has been stated countless times, the real enemy is the media, then Newt would have been the perfect weapon to aim at that target. We might still have lost, but it could have set off a chain reaction against the stranglehold the MSM has on public opinion and politics in general.
Posted by: mama winger at March 23, 2013 03:48 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 23, 2013 03:50 PM (GEICT)
Will someone please smack some sense into these idiots?
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at March 23, 2013 03:52 PM (KCvsd)
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 23, 2013 03:53 PM (/ZHx6)
I just saw the latest installment a few weeks ago, and watched it again the next day. Holes in the plot, as usual, but I was highly entertained for two hours, no make that four. Since I watched it twice..
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 23, 2013 03:53 PM (4Mv1T)
Well since we have 2020 hindsight, I prefer the other team than to what happened with the loser Romney.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 23, 2013 03:54 PM (IY7Ir)
Posted by: pep at March 23, 2013 07:43 PM (6TB1Z)
Dear God, if I have to endure another bout of F Chuck telling Monkey Boy Gregory that those cellulite-ridden whores want to be "wooed'... How does the thought of uninterrupted green glass from the Mississippi to Nebraska sound to you fucking slatterns?
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 23, 2013 03:55 PM (/l8GL)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 23, 2013 03:56 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: AD at March 23, 2013 03:56 PM (qtnu2)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 23, 2013 03:57 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 23, 2013 03:58 PM (Vk2pI)
HEY! It's not weird shit. I mean. Not really weird. Per se. For certain definitions of weird.
Tucker and Dale, though, I suppose that could vaguely be considered horror.
Tremors. Because of the awesome.
Strictly Ballroom though you may need to follow that up with Terminator to get the testosterone levels back up.
Super 8 which is great just to see JJ Abrams tugging on Spielberg's arm going "see, see, I made you a movie, did you see, seeeeeeee".
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at March 23, 2013 03:58 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 23, 2013 03:58 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: elize nayden at March 23, 2013 03:58 PM (rvs/F)
Being a Bush should be three strikes and out. Nothing further required.
The last Bush in office crippled the GOP. He stank up the Republican brand like an unserviced Port-a-Potty in the summer in Port-au-Prince. He paved the way for the Obama disaster, and legitimized many of Obama's most appalling excesses and abuses with a bunch of his own.
The family that destroyed the Reagan legacy. Bushes delenda est.
Of course, should the GOP decide to triple down on failure with yet another goddamned Bush, I will merely be sadly surprised.
My own policy is one in which proven failures should be driven weeping into outer darkness, never to return, but the Beltway Buttmunch establishment doesn't work according to those rules.
Did you know that the same asshole consultants who first ran the McQueeg '08 campaign into a wall, and then confidently predicted victory for the Romney '12 campaign, are still getting hired at by the GOP at top rates? They are. So let's have them run the Jeb 2016 campaign, why don't we? Makes perfect sense!
Posted by: torquewrench at March 23, 2013 03:58 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at March 23, 2013 04:00 PM (aTfg2)
62
"In The Electric Mist".
Tommy Lee Jones and John Goodman are in it. It has a No Country For Old Men feel to it.
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 23, 2013 04:01 PM (PBm/l)
Therefore, I want scorched earth. They already hate us. I want them called out for the Marxist, criminals they are.
I want every crappy thing they have stuck us with (Obamacare, debt, student loans, joblessness, etc.) sliced and diced and explained to the LIV so that even they can understand it.
I want the media portrayed as the jackals and cronies to the democrats that they are. Every time Claire Shipman reports she should have to say "I am maried to Obama's press secretary."
So, I am for smart, unafraid, and mean as a snake. Ted Cruz or Rand Paul.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 04:01 PM (GoIUi)
What a tease. I thought you meant Aeryn Sun (Claudia Black) from Farscape.
Posted by: Ook? at March 23, 2013 04:01 PM (OQpzc)
Posted by: NJRob at March 23, 2013 04:02 PM (eQVph)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 23, 2013 04:02 PM (CaJnt)
At least a Newt! ticket would've been interesting.
Since Mitt ran on resume and not on calling Obama a miserable failure, it's unlikely that a Santorum smeer the queers campaign or a Newt! I'm better than you and here's why campaign would have done worse.
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 23, 2013 04:04 PM (nbCFZ)
I seriously envy THIS. Just to get the permits to sink a well here would suck most the wind out of my sails. I already checked it out.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 23, 2013 04:04 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 04:04 PM (csi6Y)
I am sure that youthful Santy or sage Newt! would not have taken foot off gas pedal in debates 2 and 3.
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 23, 2013 04:05 PM (nbCFZ)
If we had picked up Mn, then obaoyyy!
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 23, 2013 04:06 PM (nbCFZ)
Action: The Adventures of Robin Hood
Drama: Casablanca
Comedy: Bringing Up Baby
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 23, 2013 04:07 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 23, 2013 04:07 PM (+bZOu)
Winters Bone is now gone from streaming, since Jennifer L hit the big time.
Independent film called Ink has really grown on me - kind of a supernatural good-v-evil thing
Posted by: Rule #2 at March 23, 2013 04:07 PM (CypDC)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at March 23, 2013 04:07 PM (aTfg2)
oh yeah, imagine the horror at that.
And remember in the final weeks of the campaign when an increasingly flailing and despreate obama cast himself as Bill Clinton part 2?
Yeah, Newt! would've said, um thank you, that was me you dolts.
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 23, 2013 04:08 PM (nbCFZ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 23, 2013 04:09 PM (Z9EHQ)
Period. The end. Even Romney could have said that.
Just, "We are going to repeal it because the people hate it."
Instead, everyone allowed Obama to brag about it while they talked about deficits and stuff, which the LIV voters don't understand or care about.
Here is what I know about Obamacare:
Every doctor is going to have to record your BMI and report it. Think Honey Boo Boo's mother is going to like that?
There is a required 2-week wait before a defibrillator like Cheney had can be placed on your heart. How is that going to go over with the old folks?
You are going to have to report that you smoke and be forced into counseling. How will some of those hipsters like that?
Think you were going on a vacation next year? Your higher premiums will make sure you won't.
Now you guys tell me. How in the HELL could someone who was supposed to be so smart not attack this plan? Why isn't repealing it our number one priority, even now?
It's killing jobs and family income. It's causing a doctor shortage. People are going to DIE because of this bill!
What is wrong with the GOP that they cannot see this?
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 04:09 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 23, 2013 04:10 PM (Z9EHQ)
Jack Reacher
Jack the Giant Slayer
skyfall sucked balls
Yea, pretty much thought the same of those three.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 23, 2013 04:11 PM (4Mv1T)
Romney also took his foot off the gas and had a terrible, terrible campaign in strategy, theme, and organization.
So, in hindsight?
Perry would've made mincemeat out of Obama, if only he hadn't have been visibly drunk during primaries (and if the rumors about his...ah lifestyle were not true).
Newt! sure sure, fun to have watched.
Santorum...you know what? I think he may have appealed to diversity.
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 23, 2013 04:12 PM (nbCFZ)
It is kinda silly to pick at this scab, but since we are just spit ballin, logic would say you would pick anybody else since the known factor is Romney lost.
Down ballot races do not matter if you have a marxist president that cannot be impeached no matter what he does. Think about it, the guy had to be forced to say he would not assassinate American citizens residing in the US.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 23, 2013 04:12 PM (IY7Ir)
Seriously, it is beyond ridiculous when I can see what needs to be done. I am a Midwest grandmother.
My other theory sometimes rears it's ugly face, wherein I think many people in the GOP are either being threatened or blackmailed.
The erratic behavior of some senators over the last few years springs to mind.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 04:13 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 23, 2013 04:14 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at March 23, 2013 04:14 PM (aTfg2)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 23, 2013 04:14 PM (GEICT)
I got "Carrie" for $4.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 23, 2013 04:16 PM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Crude at March 23, 2013 04:16 PM (N3XVc)
Sometimes I forget until somebody asks and then I remember, gop and democrats are on the same team. Its not yours.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 23, 2013 04:18 PM (IY7Ir)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 23, 2013 04:18 PM (wR+pz)
Posted by: angel with a sword at March 23, 2013 04:18 PM (mDVDU)
Posted by: Y-not at March 23, 2013 04:19 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 23, 2013 04:20 PM (nbCFZ)
Killer Joe (stars Matthew McConaughey and Gina Gershon). Weird (what do you expect from William Friedkin?), but you can't look away. Wouldn't let the kids watch, tho.
Interstate 60: Episodes of the Road has been recommended here before (which is how I heard of it), and again, it's weird, but very entertaining.
And if anyone ever recommends Whispers and Lies (stars James Franco) to you, kill them and their known relatives, as well as their neighbors and anyone they have ever come into contact with. You know, just to be sure.
Posted by: jwpaine at March 23, 2013 04:21 PM (VcDCJ)
Posted by: jeannebodine at March 23, 2013 04:21 PM (x0dlI)
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 23, 2013 04:21 PM (nbCFZ)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 23, 2013 04:21 PM (Vk2pI)
Mouse Hunt is fun, it's got an old slapstick kind of vibe to it.
Better Off Ted. Start at the first ep and just watch them all.
Brick, oh how I love Brick, but that's probably darker than you want.
Duck Soup. 'Nuff said.
Safety Not Guaranteed which, okay, might be a little weird but I liked it quite a bit.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Take us away. at March 23, 2013 04:22 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 23, 2013 04:22 PM (tOkJB)
Posted by: The Political Hat at March 23, 2013 04:24 PM (Vk2pI)
Also, Gingrich will run again because campaigns help sell a lot of books, ala Ron Paul, with all that free publicity.
Posted by: edmund at March 23, 2013 04:24 PM (rCS6C)
It's killing jobs and family income. It's causing a doctor shortage. People are going to DIE because of this bill!
What is wrong with the GOP that they cannot see this?
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 08:09 PM (GoIUi)
Because that sobbing pile of shit nicotine slave Boehner keeps funding the monster with his cash fixes for the JEF. He has done the absolute minimum in addressing this shit and needs to be called out on it until he gets off his dead ass and shows a fucking spine against something that everybody hates. We have a leader who doesn't know how to lead.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 23, 2013 04:25 PM (/l8GL)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 04:25 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: wattyler1381 at March 23, 2013 04:26 PM (F2Vrz)
Oh, and if you haven't seen it yet, try Let It Ride (stars Richard Dreyfuss and Teri Garr). Great comedy about degenerate gamblers and horse races.
Posted by: jwpaine at March 23, 2013 04:26 PM (VcDCJ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 23, 2013 04:26 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 23, 2013 04:27 PM (nbCFZ)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 04:29 PM (csi6Y)
Not enough to defeat semi-popular incumbent with full MSM PR protection spell of invisibility cast upon him.
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 23, 2013 04:31 PM (nbCFZ)
Sometimes on Fridays roasted chickens are $5 at Stop and Shop.
They're pretty good if you eat them right after they're cooked.
Posted by: soothsayer, a transcorporeal at March 23, 2013 04:31 PM (Yyowi)
No soul
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 23, 2013 04:32 PM (nbCFZ)
By the way, let's remember who got the highest television ratings during the conventions last year. It was Billy Jeff.
In his speech in which he urged Americans to back Obama again, and in which he promised that late 1990s style bursting prosperity would be just around the corner if they did so. Enough average Joes and Janes remember that time fondly that this message was well received. It was central to Obama getting re-elected.
Well, we're around the corner now. The promised abundance has not materialized. And this is having consequences. Not least for the guy who Billy Jeff was talking up. Who is now completely tanking in the polls. Even in deep blue states like New York! Because the promise hasn't been kept. And the low information schlubs who bought into that promise are getting pissed.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 23, 2013 04:34 PM (gqT4g)
For example, Judas Iscariot was a leader. He led the Romans and the Temple Guards right to Jesus.
Good old Monsignor pointed out that we have a lot of leaders who are bad leaders in opposition to the Church. (Veiled hint about Obama may be inserted here, because this is what he meant.)
Leaders are supposed to do the following things:
DEFEND those who they lead.
Tell the truth, always.
Serve their followers.
We do not have this. We have people who have accumulated power and are not defending us. Plus a great many of them are deceitful.
Enough.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 04:34 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 04:36 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: clemenza at March 23, 2013 04:36 PM (HMQ8k)
Posted by: Rule #2 at March 23, 2013 04:36 PM (CypDC)
If the voters hate it so much, why did they vote against repealing it? It would have taken some months if Romney had won but now it will take years. The Republicans will have to keep chipping away at it for the foreseeable future.
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 23, 2013 04:37 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Andy at March 23, 2013 04:38 PM (OZPoa)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 23, 2013 04:39 PM (8sCoq)
John Bra-bender, SantorumÂ’s chief strategist.
Wow, nearly 150 posts in and no one of the Horde comments on Rick "No Sex/No Fun" Santorum employing a guy with such an amazing last name.
Posted by: disappointed Moron at March 23, 2013 04:39 PM (lG3E4)
Sheryl Atkinson better hope she didn't fudge her taxes even a tiny teensy bit!
Oh, and did you spot the missing name in the IRS Star Trek article? Starts with an O. Used to be the name of that high official graced nearly every other sentence in any article about government malfeasance, back when that high official was in the other party. Now... not so much, as they say.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 23, 2013 04:39 PM (qIFL7)
If you're trying to tell me that Slick is the worst thing that ever happened to this country and that white trash red-nosed predator can't die too soon, you've found a receptive audience.
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 23, 2013 04:39 PM (/l8GL)
That should have been the #1 ad running in all 50 states. People should have combed through that law and highlighted the worst aspects of it in ads.
Ad everyone would have been unified.
Now we are getting all of this stuff thrown at us and there is no way we can stop it until 2016. By then the health care system will be severely damaged.
Be that as it may, we should be blaming all of the misery and destruction on Obama and the democrats.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 04:40 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2013 04:41 PM (aDwsi)
>>>I ate a whole chicken last night .
I understand that was the habit of Charlie 'Bird' Parker..
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2013 04:42 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Avi at March 23, 2013 04:44 PM (z9OI2)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 23, 2013 04:45 PM (81ahw)
Nice doesn't work. The LIV's already thing we are icky and evil.
So go with scorched earth. I don't even care if we lose, just so someone tells it like it is.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 04:45 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 04:46 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at March 23, 2013 04:46 PM (wR+pz)
R/R should have focused on it more than they did but to claim they never made the case is revisionist history. It was mentioned repeatedly on the campaign trail and the issue was raised during the debates. Regardless, the lack of a barrage of ads on the subject does not excuse the voters for deciding to send the SCOAMT back to the White House simply because they thought he cared more.
Posted by: 80sBaby at March 23, 2013 04:46 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Machiavelli at March 23, 2013 04:47 PM (Vk2pI)
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I do not disagree, but when one examines credentials and experience in the private sector, Romney was pretty much on top. All a moot point, of course, if the candidate can not be elected.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2013 04:48 PM (aDwsi)
Oh, Newt already new I was going to be the boss, but Rick just couldn't quite get with the program.
*looks down beneath desk*
Newt! Who told you you could come up for air. I'm not done yet...
Posted by: Callista Gingrich at March 23, 2013 04:48 PM (lG3E4)
Well, I am done with electability. I don't care whether the dems won because of their outreach to LIV's, or because of fraud, or because some GOP stayed home, or because of the media.
All of these will be in operation next time as well. SO I say get out there and say to the dems, "Who made you the boss of me?"
"Who the hell are YOU to tell ME how to run my life?"
Over and over. We might not win but it would sure get people thinking. Even the LIV's.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 04:48 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 23, 2013 04:49 PM (NzBQO)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 23, 2013 04:50 PM (81ahw)
Told to my husband by a Knight of Malta based in VA.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2013 04:50 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 04:50 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: soothsayer, a transcorporeal at March 23, 2013 07:40 PM (Yyowi)
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Big Bird and SpongeBob 2016! unless Big Bird is ghey. I hate the gheys.
Posted by: Guido-Liberal Arts PHD Squidolgy at March 23, 2013 04:50 PM (NQq8e)
Posted by: wattyler1381 at March 23, 2013 04:52 PM (F2Vrz)
Say what people will about Gingrich, but I backed him for exactly that reason. He is a walking breathing encyclopedia. Gingrich would have exposed Obama for the absolute fucking dunce he is. He would have lost of course, but at least he would have drawn blood.
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Agreed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2013 04:53 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Ronster at March 23, 2013 04:53 PM (4PYOi)
Posted by: akak at March 23, 2013 04:53 PM (eFroM)
Posted by: Andy at March 23, 2013 04:53 PM (OZPoa)
the whole Romney's kids are creepy thing.
You know, where are our foot soldiers calling BS on this on TV?
No, they're handsome, married, fathers with good careers. Just because they wouldn't date you, you fugly feminazi, doesn't mean they don't count. Seriously, someone should have fucking pulled the rug on that. Like "why, what do you mean, how? Because they give you wet willies?"
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 23, 2013 04:53 PM (nbCFZ)
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Say what people will about Gingrich, but I backed him for exactly
that reason. He is a walking breathing encyclopedia. Gingrich would have
exposed Obama for the absolute fucking dunce he is. He would have lost
of course, but at least he would have drawn blood.
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Agreed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2013 08:53 PM (aDwsi)
I second...or is it third?
Posted by: Guido-Liberal Arts PHD Squidolgy at March 23, 2013 04:54 PM (NQq8e)
Posted by: Avi at March 23, 2013 04:54 PM (z9OI2)
I am excited to see Rand Paul take Iowa's caucus in 2016 with the aid of Pappy von Fruitbat's legions of pothead retards freeping the shit out of CorndogFest.
Fuck this stupid party.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 23, 2013 04:54 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2013 04:55 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Avi at March 23, 2013 04:55 PM (z9OI2)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2013 04:56 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 23, 2013 04:56 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 23, 2013 04:58 PM (81ahw)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 04:58 PM (csi6Y)
This is a challenge! Who will match me?
As the Dims say, its for the kids!Posted by: Judge_Roy_Bean at March 23, 2013 04:59 PM (aTfg2)
Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 23, 2013 04:59 PM (81ahw)
Say what people will about Gingrich, but I backed him for exactly
that reason. He is a walking breathing encyclopedia. Gingrich would have
exposed Obama for the absolute fucking dunce he is. He would have lost
of course, but at least he would have drawn blood.
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like Goldwater did? Posted by: Avi at March 23, 2013 08:55 PM
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Goldwater v. Johnson a different scenario altogether, but opposition within the party hurt badly. Of course the Dems were just beginning to fight *really* dirty..
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2013 05:00 PM (aDwsi)
The "Walking, Breathing Encyclopedia" got thrashed by Romney in a debate.
Posted by: 80sBaby- at March 23, 2013 05:00 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 23, 2013 05:00 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 23, 2013 05:01 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2013 05:02 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 23, 2013 05:02 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Cheri at March 23, 2013 05:02 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2013 05:02 PM (ZPrif)
I would vote foe someone who put a bounty on liberals.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 23, 2013 09:01 PM
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I would settle for a license and legal limit...
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2013 05:03 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: EC at March 23, 2013 05:03 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 05:04 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 23, 2013 05:04 PM (GEICT)
You must understand, I don't give a shit anymore. I will vote in the primary for whom I think is the most conservative canidate, win or lose. I want to keep my SS coming in but would gladly give up 10% if I thought it would help the country. Fat chance, I know.
Posted by: Ronster at March 23, 2013 05:04 PM (4PYOi)
Posted by: kartoffel at March 23, 2013 05:05 PM (OgNv0)
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Much worse..., 20/20 hindsight ain't helping all that much. Truth is Obama and fellow travelers/Fifth Columnists had the fix in.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2013 05:06 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Andy at March 23, 2013 05:06 PM (OZPoa)
Posted by: wattyler1381 at March 23, 2013 05:07 PM (F2Vrz)
Posted by: notsothoreau at March 23, 2013 05:08 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: kartoffel at March 23, 2013 09:05 PM (OgNv0)
I am praying to whatever god will hear me to coax Bloomberg into a 3rd party run in 2016, please let his ego take them to this decision.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 23, 2013 05:08 PM (NzBQO)
Posted by: EC at March 23, 2013 05:08 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: CK at March 23, 2013 05:09 PM (LmD/o)
Now back to the Firefly marathon .... Posted by: Andy at March 23, 2013 09:06 PM
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Worse..., the taxpayers are already picking up the tab for Pell Grants, and will soon pick up the tab for student loan meltdown.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2013 05:09 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: President Rand Paul at March 23, 2013 05:10 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: rickl at March 23, 2013 05:10 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Ronster at March 23, 2013 08:53 PM (4PYOi)
My WWII pacific theater vet uncle used to say we needed to get invaded and lose a million people per day to wake up this completely pussified society. He also expressed his doubts that even that would work.
Posted by: Berserker at March 23, 2013 05:11 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Elizabethe at March 23, 2013 05:12 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2013 05:12 PM (AJM+z)
Posted by: Berserker at March 23, 2013 09:11 PM
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He might be right..., looked how the Rooskies ended up after WWII
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2013 05:12 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 05:13 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: teej at March 23, 2013 05:15 PM (RYVE/)
Posted by: Berserker
I've thought this as well. Unfortunately having to scare the shit out of people seems to be the only remedy. Live on your own with no access to money, goods, services and pandemic outbreaks. Good enough?
Posted by: Cheri at March 23, 2013 05:17 PM (EAgmr)
Hey Andy I have a simple solution to your scrolling problem on the iphone.
When you get to the last comment you read, just click the comment number. The page will reload and drop you down to that comment. And just repeat. though once you do it once you will have to click the new comment you are on and then jump back to the top to refresh. But once you refresh you'll again be dropped down to that last comment read.
Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2013 05:18 PM (GULKT)
The government gives loans, no questions asked, to any kid who wants a bunch of money. He can be going to Harvard or Cow College U or Acme State. He still gets the money (PLUS his own estimate of living expenses). He gets the money whether he is majoring in petroleum engineering or Ukranian folk dance. No one asks whether he will be able to get an actual JOB with that major.
So kids borrow THOUSANDS every year and spend it foolishly, because older and wiser people (like parents) are not consulted. (You didn't know they can borrow over $30,000 per year at age 18 without parental consent? Wake up!)
Then when they do not get the 100 grand job that the colleges told them would be waiting when they got a degree, they somehow believe it is the fault of banks.
NO. It is the fault of the government and the colleges, which sold those naive and foolish kids into indentured servitude in order to make sure people like Elizabeth Warren could get paid $300,000 for teaching ONE CLASS!
AND, when they go to pay the money back, if they get married then their spouse's income is counted in on their ability to repay! So they don't get married!
I must do a rant about the student loan scam once a week on one site or another. It is criminal. And the colleges are complicit in it. I wouldn't be surprised to see those kids drafted into Obama's brown shirts if they didn't pay up.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 05:18 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: CK at March 23, 2013 05:18 PM (LmD/o)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 09:13 PM (csi6Y)
Follow your dreams, pay your own way. If it doesn't work out, don't come crying to me if it didn't work out.
Posted by: Ronster at March 23, 2013 05:19 PM (4PYOi)
Posted by: barky the precedent at March 23, 2013 05:20 PM (zfAOM)
Posted by: Andy at March 23, 2013 05:20 PM (OZPoa)
Posted by: elizabethe at March 23, 2013 05:20 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: EC at March 23, 2013 05:21 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: EC at March 23, 2013 09:21 PM (doBIb)
Which doesn't help if the last comment you read, and want to continue reading from is at the middle of the page.
Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2013 05:22 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: willow-ette at March 23, 2013 05:23 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Y-not at March 23, 2013 05:25 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: K. Rove card carrying pollitical genius at March 23, 2013 05:25 PM (p4U6S)
Then we had McCain ahead but suddenly acting squirrely when the financial crisis hit.
Or how about the sudden conversion of Rob Portman to gay marriage? Why did his son being gay make him switch that position? I have a gay relative I love dearly but I am not changing my belief on his behalf.
If you ask me, there is an underground group of dems, probably funded by Soros, who make it their business to dig up dirt on GOP people and their relatives. Some can be turned by the threat of disclosure. Others are physically threatened, or their relatives are.
I realize this sounds paranoid and tin foilish, but it has been bothering me for some time. And here's another thing. Why did Romney change from a fierce campaigner and debater to Mr. Meh?
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 05:25 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 23, 2013 05:26 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: teej at March 23, 2013 05:26 PM (AoY8i)
Posted by: EC at March 23, 2013 05:27 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 23, 2013 05:28 PM (bxiXv)
My son's sites are set on the music business as a performer. He's got natural talent and is an awesome guitarist, drummer, keyboardist. I've also told him that millions of other kids are too. The music industry is cutthroat to the extreme and you have to be able to pay rent and eat.
I am urging him into a music school to study music engineering/production and a business degree. You have to be able to read a contract and musical production is still risky but if you have the technical skills - which he has - he could make a good living off of it. Play the gigs on the weekends when you can get them to satisfy the other side of your passion. If you make it then great - you can buy your old mom a mansion and 'Benz...if not, you can still eat.
Posted by: Cheri at March 23, 2013 05:28 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: willow-ette at March 23, 2013 09:23 PM
That was my thought as well.
Posted by: Berserker at March 23, 2013 05:29 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2013 05:29 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 05:29 PM (csi6Y)
Paul, Bachmann, and Santorum were examples this time.
The field needs to be weeded of those with no practical chance much sooner. Also, get rid of media-run debates: if they want to televise, fine, but they don't control the rules or supply the questioners. And limit the participants to the top four by RCP poll average.
Posted by: Adjoran at March 23, 2013 05:29 PM (9uOra)
must do a rant about the student loan scam once a week on one site or another. It is criminal. And the colleges are complicit in it. I wouldn't be surprised to see those kids drafted into Obama's brown shirts if they didn't pay up.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 09:18 PM (GoIUi)
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The whole thing's a swindle. Colleges beat on K-12s to make every kid believe the only goal is to go to college. Some corporations won't look at anyone who doesn't have a degree. Many jobs require a degree/certification to work in that profession. It's bullshit, a lot of it.
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 23, 2013 05:29 PM (+bZOu)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 09:25 PM (GoIUi)
I propose it might be possible, they are blackmailed into making decisions the one wants. i thought something might be wrong after Roberts decision and that hogwash he threw at america.
either that or many republicans don't really stand for anything i do, and just needed a chance to roll over .
Posted by: willow-ette at March 23, 2013 05:29 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 23, 2013 05:30 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: EC at March 23, 2013 05:31 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Jones in CO at March 23, 2013 05:31 PM (8sCoq)
Parents are told that college educations guarantee a greater salary. Since parents are not informed if their kids change majors, get poor grades, or borrow thousands of dollars and live in a high rise apartment with jacuzzis and a swimming pool or take some of that money and go to Acapulco on Spring break, I fail to see how it is any fault of the parents, since they are not informed.
And as far as the students, those are 18-year old naive kids who are told BY THE COLLEGES that there are jobs in the majors they have chosen, which in many cases is not true.
I refuse to absolve the government and the universities for running this scam.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 05:31 PM (GoIUi)
It's a purchase, like any other. Choose a college you can afford, pick a sensible major, and study hard.
Posted by: Y-not at March 23, 2013 09:25 PM (5H6zj)
Very well said. Ivy League schools are not the be all end all. State universities or even community college might be the best for many students.
Posted by: Ronster at March 23, 2013 05:31 PM (4PYOi)
Also, Gingrich will run again because campaigns help sell a lot of books, ala Ron Paul, with all that free publicity.
Posted by: edmund
That will guarantee that the Democrat party elects the first black and first woman to the Presidency, and will also be the end of the Republican party.
Posted by: SFGoth at March 23, 2013 05:31 PM (mx7vs)
Posted by: teej at March 23, 2013 05:33 PM (+jNI+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 23, 2013 05:33 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2013 05:33 PM (Ofqaw)
You have a serious case of amnesia if you don't remember Romney landed the biggest smackdown since debates were first televised around Kennedy-Nixon.
I'm not kidding, it was that big. Newt couldn't even have managed that.
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 09:04 PM (csi6Y)
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And then backed down.
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 23, 2013 05:34 PM (+bZOu)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 05:34 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2013 05:34 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Cheri at March 23, 2013 05:34 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2013 09:33 PM (Ofqaw)
I think it would be nice if teens were given assistance to get into trade schools for credits the last 2 years of highschool.
Posted by: willow-ette at March 23, 2013 05:35 PM (nqBYe)
My guess was "they" threatened his family, either directly or they caught him in a sex sting live on video.
Regarding who? That is the big question. I've thought in other areas that there is an invisible hand at work, which is more than happy for a Bush or Obama to take the blame.
Posted by: Rule #2 at March 23, 2013 05:36 PM (CypDC)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 23, 2013 05:36 PM (GEICT)
I think it would be nice if teens were given assistance to get into trade schools for credits the last 2 years of highschool.
Better than sending them to a liberal arts college...at any expense.
Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2013 05:36 PM (Ofqaw)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2013 05:36 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Y-not at March 23, 2013 05:37 PM (5H6zj)
Cheri- If I may be so bold to offer, be very careful with this.
My son has been in Berklee the past year. Was accepted into their Music Production and Engineering Program this past fall, which is extremely difficult to get into. He has two friends who just graduated there, and both are working in fast food. The music business has been decimated in the past decade. I don't know how anyone makes any money in it any longer because of free music downloads. Happy to discuss off line if you ever care to.
It's a long, expensive road we've been down. 60k just for this past year.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 23, 2013 05:37 PM (4Mv1T)
>>>My guess was "they" threatened his family, either directly or they caught him in a sex sting live on video.
What's under the robe, Justice Roberts?
Posted by: Chris Hansen at March 23, 2013 05:38 PM (Ofqaw)
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at March 23, 2013 05:38 PM (DaxAl)
Better than sending them to a liberal arts college...at any expense.
Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2013 09:36 PM (Ofqa
That and those last two years are when many teens decided they are gonna play, cause they think they are 'grown', let them see what work is and what it pays and the advantage to apply themselves for money during that hormonal time.
Posted by: willow-ette at March 23, 2013 05:38 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 05:38 PM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2013 05:39 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Cheri at March 23, 2013 09:28 PM (EAgmr)
My daughter just knew she could be a famous singer, and wanted to move to Nashville. Of course, I told her of all the pitfalls in that thinking. She is now a dental hygienist making good money and sings with a small band. Best of both worlds.
Posted by: Ronster at March 23, 2013 05:40 PM (4PYOi)
Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2013 05:41 PM (Ofqaw)
Posted by: NJRob at March 23, 2013 05:42 PM (FVp26)
Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2013 05:42 PM (dBYCN)
I think educators have decided sex, anything goes!banana curriculum to be of some advantage to the world.
probably replaced shop.
Posted by: willow-ette at March 23, 2013 05:42 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: CarolT at March 23, 2013 05:42 PM (z4WKX)
Son passed through a "for-profit" school to get his FAA A&P. Not cheap for 14 months of training. He made it out ok, passed his exams and is now employed. Students witg a good work ethic will get through it and be employable in the end, but many of his classmates never finished. The school was pushing student loans hard, and I'm afraid the slackers are as bad off as a Wymyn's studies major.
Posted by: Rule #2 at March 23, 2013 05:43 PM (CypDC)
Posted by: elizabethe at March 23, 2013 05:43 PM (qPCAa)
Posted by: eman at March 23, 2013 05:44 PM (64rcm)
Posted by: Robert at March 23, 2013 05:44 PM (R4pS5)
Posted by: Brain Failure at March 23, 2013 05:44 PM (iYcji)
Posted by: Tobacco Road
Thank you TR. I better do a lot more research on this. You're right - the school is not cheap and what I know about this industry is little. I guess that I'm trying to not squash the kid's dreams but can not in good conscience encourage foolish and expensive endeavors.
My wish - a plumber or electrician. The job of the future is any type of handyman or tradesman. Considering this generation has a hard time screwing in a light bulb it will be a boom industry
Thanks again TR !
Posted by: Cheri at March 23, 2013 05:45 PM (EAgmr)
Posted by: rickl at March 23, 2013 05:46 PM (sdi6R)
Woulda , shoulda, coulda,
The milk has been spilt for quite a while.
I will now use my magical powers to create a new thread.
Thank You.
Posted by: seamrog at March 23, 2013 05:47 PM (PN3se)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 05:47 PM (csi6Y)
AND the fact that NO kid has access to the number of majors in his chosen field who actually get jobs in the field and what the starting salaries were unless he does a ton of internet sleuthing?
Couple this with parents who are from a different generation, many with no degrees themselves, who do NOT understand the educational system in universities or the ramifications of the student loan payback system.
There should be a "truth in lending" requirement of all universities and colleges which requires easily understandable information about expected employment and salaries.
It's all very well to dump it on the students and parents, but the average college freshman doesn't understandall of this stuff, doesn't believe that departments would LIE about employment prospects, and has a little life experience.
It's pretty shabby to blame kids who don't have any idea what's going on.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 05:47 PM (GoIUi)
because fair.
Posted by: willow-ette at March 23, 2013 05:47 PM (nqBYe)
and that would have been worth the loss we' already experienced.
Posted by: willow-ette at March 23, 2013 05:48 PM (nqBYe)
And you believe that Roberts honestly believes the "Its A Tax" thing? It was totally out of character, he had to say something to rationalize his vote. People don't just flip like that for no reason.
Posted by: Rule #2 at March 23, 2013 05:49 PM (CypDC)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at March 23, 2013 05:50 PM (csi6Y)
Posted by: eman at March 23, 2013 05:50 PM (64rcm)
Posted by: Cheri at March 23, 2013 05:51 PM (EAgmr)
Let me tell you something. My mother was a dean of women at a private university. I taught undergrad labs. I have relatives who teach in universities. I know exactly what is going on with this.
It is a scam which is allowing colleges to jack up their tuition without market competition, so that they can increase salaries and hire all sorts of administrative people at exorbitant salaries.
Elizabeth Warren; $300,000; one class.
I am not backing down over this, because it is a winning issue for the GOP and it is also something that is causing misery for huge numbers of students.
Posted by: Miss Marple at March 23, 2013 05:55 PM (GoIUi)
This would have been the right choice, but he has some health issues, and judgment issues, and he/we needed for him to have that going off to college experience. So he did, at my behest. In retrospect, I am not sure what we would have done different, but even though he got into the dream program at Berklee, he decided we were wasting our money. He's no longer at Berklee, living in Boston on my dime, trying to figure out what to do next.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 23, 2013 05:58 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: motionview at March 23, 2013 06:04 PM (wo0qO)
Posted by: Kaitian at March 23, 2013 06:05 PM (deq9o)
Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2013 06:12 PM (dBYCN)
I am urging him into a music school to study music engineering/production and a business degree. You have to be able to read a contract and musical production is still risky but if you have the technical skills - which he has - he could make a good living off of it. Play the gigs on the weekends when you can get them to satisfy the other side of your passion. If you make it then great - you can buy your old mom a mansion and 'Benz...if not, you can still eat.
Posted by: Cheri at March 23, 2013 09:28 PM
Well, he's already playing instruments, so that's a start. I don't know about going to music school to do engineering/production. Depends on how much it's going to cost. If it's cheap and provides a basic understanding of the work, it can't hurt and will be an asset. If it's an expensive in depth curriculum, pass on it. Having the formal education doesn't hurt, but engineering and production is an even tighter field than playing. Generally speaking, the work and positions go to people who get results, not the "most qualified". The best way to approach the field is through the field. Go mix bands live, even do it for free for experience. Do it often. Pick it up as you go along. Reputation is EVRYTHING.
How qualified you are on pushing sliders doesn't hold the same weight as getting a great sound and overall feel, without training. It's more about having a good ear for production and direction than knowing what phasers and compressors do exactly. That stuff you can pick up as you go along. Get him to listen to A LOT of records and live performances to develop an ear for what works for what styles and how different instruments sound with different mixes, etc. A cheap grounding course will help, an expensive technical one will probably be a waste of $$$.
Posted by: otho at March 23, 2013 06:13 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 23, 2013 06:27 PM (1V6Pv)
Posted by: citizen of the LoL at March 23, 2013 06:42 PM (DBkD3)
g'damn liberal GOP bloggers, this is a shithole full of right wing socialist Romney lovers who want the GOP to promote big government healthcare programs and other liberal agenda items.
Get it through your fricken heads, if we ran any one who the base believed in, we would have turned out. There were only three candidates in the nomination that would guarantee we didn't turn out and would lose to Obama -- Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, and Jon Huntsman.
Anyone else, including Santorum and Gingrich, we would have turned out.
Keep on supporting the flaming liberals wing of the party you moronic GOP establishment folks, you just won't win another national election again.
Posted by: doug at March 23, 2013 08:03 PM (uJ8q7)
Posted by: TooCon at March 23, 2013 08:31 PM (f+yEj)
Posted by: yankeefifth at March 23, 2013 08:09 PM (Z9EHQ)
We (or at least myself and and any one with a working clue) knew Romney wasn't going to win. He had everyone and his brother selling the notion of electibility in the primaries. Thing is no one addressed my argument which was the biggest negative for Obama was his highly unpopular signature "achievement" Obama-care. Nominating Romney took Obama's biggest screw up off the table. I like Romney and truly believe he is a good man. However, he is just the sort of guy the scumbags can paint/demonize as an out of touch rich guy. Some idiots are still arguing that Romney was the right choice because they want to nominate another moderate (Christie, Jeb Bush) because they are afraid a conservative who actually will defend conservative principles will lose. You win the middle by expanding the base by educating the middle about conservative ideas. You lose the race by trying to woo the middle playing somewhat liberal.
Posted by: Largebill at March 23, 2013 09:34 PM (jzlk6)
Not paranoid at all, Miss Marple. Look at BO's political history. He'd still be trying to get elected as alderman in Chi-town if he hadn't pulled crap like that several times.
Posted by: FOAF at March 23, 2013 09:40 PM (Kz60W)
Akin losing does not reflect on Santorum. Santorum may have had the chops to make a coherent statement explaining that Akin while inarticulate was right. We don't punish children for crimes their father may have committed. Romney by comparison just cowered and disavowed any knowledge of Akin. Weakness does not compel people to join your cause. I have had more than enough of these foolish candidates thinking they will win by showing they can be a polite conservative. BS! Give me someone who will fight. I know liberal Republicans oppose Palin, but I have no doubt she would fight to win not worry about being considered impolite.
Posted by: Largebill at March 23, 2013 09:48 PM (jzlk6)
Posted by: Juicer at March 23, 2013 11:58 PM (QyAjS)
Whichever RINO might have prevailed in the early days, especially Romney, was almost guaranteed to suck the oxygen out of the room. Perry is a whole 'nother thing to be dissected later.
Let's try to make this simple: it was worth electing a RINO like Bush 2, in order to defeat Clinton's sock puppet, Gore. But in hindsight, Bush 2 was almost as bad as Bush 1.
Fast forward to today: RINOs are LOSERs.
Earth to GOP: try something else.
Posted by: Born Free at March 24, 2013 12:14 AM (htomV)
With this post you have guaranteed that I will never take seriously any thing you have to say ever.
If Newt or Santorum had been nominated and lost to Obama, it would have discredited conservatives or social conservatives.
The reality is that Romney won the primaries and went on to lose an election to an incompetent President who has demonstrated that he does not have the ability to lead the country while the economy limps along and we have record debt and an unemployment rate like the worst days of Jimmy Carter or the Great Depression. Oh, yeah. He also got us into a new war. This time it really was a war for oil - except it is a war for the French to have Lybian oil, the US gets no benefit at all from that operation.
That election loss discredits "electable" RINOs. Of course, the response of the establishment wing of the party is to blame the socons and the Tea Party for the loss of their favorite candidate. Well, the competent manager could not competently manage the roll out of a new IT product on election day and the dogs just wouldn't eat the dog food no matter how much you paid the consultants.
We sucked it up and voted for McCain out of party loyalty then we did the same thing for Romney. Your response is this piece of shit post.
Fuck you Ben.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at March 24, 2013 02:15 AM (31Nrp)
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Posted by: Chris Balsz at March 24, 2013 08:18 AM (Way6d)
Newt will never win. Mitt could have won, but he sucked and his managers and experts sucked. and his campaign sucked.. They all sucked. I like Santorum but he is too religious for our pop-culture.
It's long past time for some fresh younger ideas and faces.
plus -Newt is two-faced. Sometimes he is awesome, and sometimes he is so horrid, it's mind boggling. right?
Posted by: F&U at March 24, 2013 10:38 AM (O7ksG)
Perhaps the R-party should come up with a winning strategy before the primary. Agree to keep the egos in check and find a way to not destroy each other on the climb to the top.
Posted by: F&U at March 24, 2013 10:41 AM (O7ksG)
The Republicans are the stupid party! Everything they choose is stupid - and the options they reject are only worse.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pirate Scum of Umbar at March 24, 2013 12:35 PM (gmoEG)
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