even within those chapters he pads like the Dickens.

LITERALLY like Dickens, who was paid by the word.   Good grief.   I don't even read the full novels at this point; I just skim   for dialogue.   Otherwise it's like banging my head against a wall of text.

Of course, George RR Martin is a lazyass progressive bastard, so I buy his books secondhand.   So I really shouldn't complain.

And to be honest, I think Jamie has a soft spot for Brienne.   Not a gooey, mushy thing, but I think he    enjoys her company,   for all that he tells her what an   ugly whore she is.

My wife bought The Bible on blu-ray today at Target. Two racks of DVD, one of Blu-ray. There were three DVD copies left. She got the last Blu-Ray.

This is significant somehow.

"My wife bought The Bible on blu-ray today at Target"

Meh. I've got it in hardcover. Oh, and yes, GoT (otherwise known as LOTR w/t*ts) linkynoworky.

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at April 02, 2013 03:15 PM (73P6

I get that they're trying to establish these    lush,   expansive worlds with rich characters, blah, blah, but after a while it just gets BORING.    Give me their names, where they're from, and let my head do the rest, kay?

Tolkien managed it in three books    with   "Lord of the Rings," then expanded upon it all with his other Middle-Earth books.       He didn't take the    "Silmarillion" and    smush it into "Return of the King," even if sometimes it feels like he tried. 

Posted by: tubal at April 02, 2013 03:16 PM (BoE3Z)

He meant "Game of Thrones."

The Others take you, Ace!

(A Feast For Crows...now that was a slog....)

That sounded like Jimmy Two Times

"Jaime slowly changes his "

They've got a guy named "jaime"? Well, I wasn't going to watch it anyway...

Posted by: ace at April 02, 2013 03:17 PM (LCRYB)

It's like GRRM is really, REALLY trying to establish that Jamie doesn't have much love lost for this    Brienne lady,   even though she carries a burning torch for the incestuous Adonis.

We get it, Georgie.   Really, we do.

Indeed.  But I have to say, the GoT books are very good. 

One deep thought by Tyrion I really thought about in book 5.  It was his observation that many people choose slavery over death.

In fact, a slave's very existence is the fact that they choose life in chains over death/prison/torture for refusing.

I have thought this for a long time.  Unless a people fight for their freedom, all is not well.  The right of a people, of a civilization, to exist is paid in blood.  Without that price, there is no real social evolution.

My wife bought The Bible on blu-ray today at Target. Two racks of DVD, one of Blu-ray. There were three DVD copies left. She got the last Blu-Ray.

This is significant somehow.

It means I'm being threatened on you Jesusy freaks!

If you haven't read books 4 and 5 I'd recommend not doing so, and probably dropping the series altogether.  The two combined books took forever to come out and were supposed to be part of a single book that somehow kept expanding - having read the two books I can't see why it kept expanding as large swaths should have been excised by a editor gleefully returning the manuscript as boring having been forced to read through it all.

But I suppose once you reach a certain level of notoriety you can get away with robbing customers blind and the publishers won't give a damn since they know people will buy it.

One deep thought by Tyrion I really thought about in book 5. It was his observation that many people choose slavery over death.

Much as I rag on GRRM for being a leftist asshat who I hate with a passion, he really knocked it out of the park with Tyrion.   Love that character.   Someday I'll watch the series and love him even MORE because    Peter Dinklage,   who may be of short stature but who is HAWT with a capital HAWT.

Tubal:  We ain't there yet!!!  But the slow descent into bondage is disturbing.  The counterrevolution got started with Reagan/Goldwater, and is now ready to shine after the disturbing lessons of GWB/Zero.

On the Keystone pipeline - if 42% of leftists want it, then it should be getting fucking built. 

Of course, if zero says no then he truly will be a crazy idealogue and the GOP should be ready to reap the reward of the swinging pendulum of politics.

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Posted by: © Sponge at April 02, 2013 03:26 PM (xmcEQ)

HAH!   So true.

I haven't managed to get through book 5 yet.  I've been trying,   but it's a slog.    Is there any mention of Sansa in it?   And if so, is she still a sniveling wuss, or does she grow a bit more backbone?

BTW, I can't help but notice that there's been a fair amount of commentary on GoT's (lack of) viewership outside of the "liberal white women" audience, and yet Ace devotes more words to said show than that in the thread title.

Does that mean Ace, ya know, favor the slightly older liberal white women?

I really like GOT, but I want to hang myself every time Martin uses the phrase, "much and more" or "little and less", which he does every third paragraph or so in the later books.   He really does need an editor.

So you're saying Star Wars prequels?

Ummm...it's called Star Cuddles now.  Coming soon on Blu-Ray!

Psst...Greedo tickled first.

Of course I would hang myself before watching a mini series about the Bible.

Posted by: doug at April 02, 2013 03:29 PM (I6iFS)

An editor and a fucking DIET.   Talk about needing to trim the fat.

Posted by: Regular Moron at April 02, 2013 03:28 PM (feFL6)

so, basically, just another fucking reality show.

"At that moment, a wind, like as if a 747 was taking off, blew his hair, almost blew the set over and sustained for 20 seconds across the desert, and the actors didn’t break — they kept going. And everything stopped. Everyone just looked at everyone like, ‘What just happened?’" – Inside TV

Agree MWR, Tyrion is fantastic.

As far as Arya goes, I have a feeling that she will have some bad ass powers and do some real interesting shit in the near future.

I can't remember if it was the 6th or 7th book, but GRRM said that the title had changed from a "Time for Wolves" or something like that, to some other title.

My interpretation:  Winterfell is about to get its fucking due and a lot of slaughtering they shall commit.  That will be a very fun read.

"buys beat up, rusted out, worn out classic cars cheaply, enhances their value through skilled and talented labor, then tries to sell them for as much money as possible"

Wheeler Dealers.

Posted by: doug at April 02, 2013 03:30 PM (Lf1Ga)

You might want to give that some thought.

Thanks, ace!

I've got to say the solution to the John Arras murder mystery revealed in Book 4 was absurd and just seemed like something he made up quickly because he had to give Sansa a check-in chapter and needed *something* to happen in it.

Posted by: ace at April 02, 2013 03:30 PM (LCRYB)

Agreed.     And    considering how long he took getting    books   4 and 5   written,     I   find it cheeky that he'd do it.    You spent that much time writing   pages and pages of what's essentially filler; you couldn't    flesh this out a bit?

And I don't even LIKE Sansa.  Though she's   shown   enough grit to survive this long,   so there's hope for her yet.

Posted by: doug at April 02, 2013 03:30 PM (Lf1Ga)

Please.

Ace,

You didn't like Ender's Game???????  Blasphemy!!  Since you're a deep thinker and all, just wait until you get to Speaker for the Dead and Xenocide.  The metaphysical discussions in those books are literally, literally mind blowing!!

Very interesting concept of space and ability to travel.

Posted by: ace at April 02, 2013 03:31 PM (LCRYB)


Ace:  David Gemmell.  Read ALL of them. (like 30 books).  Trust me.

I don't think I've read anything that wasn't Warhammer 40K in like a year and a half.

Does Kratman have anything new out?  Caliphate was awesome.

Posted by: ace at April 02, 2013 03:31 PM (LCRYB)

I read it in college and thought it was great. It might help to be young and naive. Also, read Speaker for the Dead and see if that improves Ender's Game for you.

The metaphysical discussions in those books are literally, literally mind blowing!!

Whoa, that's like, a lot.

44 Ygritte hasn't gotten naked yet.

 

We'll see if that holds.

 

(hoping it doesn't)

Posted by: ace at April 02, 2013 03:21 PM (LCRYB)

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Awfully cold where she is, Ace.

You want the poor girl to freeze?

I'd like to see Jon Snow and the Dragon Girl get together.

Those two characters are the only reason why I watch the thing.

And...the dragons.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 02, 2013 03:31 PM (QTHTd)

Jesus was carrying the cross, but suddenly Mary Magdalene and a gang of kick-ass Game of Thrones type super chicks run up and slay all of the heavily armed Roman guards, while jiggling and showing cleavage. They spirit Jesus off in an improbable escape, using Sekret Pentecostal Christian Majik, and start a signs and wonders commune that was the basis of the modern Charismatic Church Movement.

Posted by: Cicero, Semiautomatic Assault Commenter at April 02, 2013 03:34 PM (8ZskC)

shhh!  Don't say anything!  Just buy a rope and throw it in front of him. Then nobody move.

The very concept of polyamory - engaging in open relationships in which a person can be involved with more than one partner - can seem terrifying to the lifelong monogamist (which most of us are). I met my first open couple about a year ago and it made me nervous in the way meeting steampunk enthusiasts makes me nervous: I didn't understand what made them tick.

In the time since, I've gotten to know several non-monogamous couples, and they not only seem very happy but also extremely devoted to each other.

Posted by: wheatie at April 02, 2013 03:37 PM (5kUwW)

Given that the title of the book    series     is "Song of Ice and Fire," it's always seemed like a sure bet to me that   Jon SNOW and Daenerys Targaryen, daughter of DRAGONS, would end up together.  

Don't forget the deep descriptions of what everyone is eating and wearing.

I actually enjoyed Books 1-3.  There was a feeling a real history to Westeros.  Plus there was some glimpses at a greater story like the hints to the identity of John Snow's mother.

In Book 4 GRRM started going off tanget and loosing his way with the plot. Book 5 totally goes off the rails and he's obviously flailing and throwing in new throw away plot lines and characters. 

"I don't really understand your "I read Wikipedia so I know all about it" rejectivist thing"

Can't speak for him, but in my case, if much widespread commentary doesn't intrigue, then I won't go any further. Can't say I've regretfully missed much over the years (other than earlier post on Sin City).

Posted by: Regular Moron at April 02, 2013 03:37 PM (feFL6)

I guess my point is:  if it's cool, then unass your couch and go do it instead of watching someone else do it.  Much more rewarding.

Posted by: Judas Iscariot at April 02, 2013 03:37 PM (BoE3Z)

Ah, so you've    read   Dan Brown then, have you?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at April 02, 2013 03:40 PM (4df7R)

Well, yeah, but my scenario is a little more plausible than his.

Posted by: ace at April 02, 2013 03:38 PM (LCRYB)

Ok, thanks. I will soon.  First I need to get back into glasses.  Something about the written page that causes eye-strain where reading on the Net does not.

Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2013 03:40 PM (Oa0Hi)

I've read in several places "War of the Roses with Dragons."

Posted by: waldo at April 02, 2013 03:42 PM (TE8aX)

Sweet mortar-loading jesus, I want the movie rights to that one.

Posted by: ace at April 02, 2013 03:41 PM (LCRYB)

Unless Georgie Porgie decides to kill off Bran because he realizes he's being too    obvious, then has to   pull some new     "third head" out of     thin air like a magic trick.   "Uh... uh...  Tyrion!  It's Tyrion!"

Posted by: © Sponge at April 02, 2013 03:43 PM (xmcEQ)

now why you gotta do the Francis thing?

But on-topic:  it wasn't an insult, it was friendly advice, Nancy.

Posted by: tasker at April 02, 2013 03:45 PM (r2PLg)

ONLY if you make eye contact.

Posted by: Regular Moron

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That skanky looking welder chick does not do it for me. Other than that, I like the show.

Wonder how he'll make out on the wrecked F-40.

So what's the basic plot to GoT? Nobody has discussed that at all. Is there a plot, or does it just plod?

Posted by: Soona at April 02, 2013 03:40 PM (Oa0Hi)

Lots of noble families  fighting for the crown, killing each other   in    bloody,   often brutal ways,    and having sex like     rather crude     rabbits.   Oh, and incest.   And     dragons.    And a bit of pedophilia.  

It's... different.    Not bad.    Very complex.    But... different.

Posted by: Jay at April 02, 2013 03:38 PM (VyNFn)

Dam!!!!  Dog ate my notes.... can't remember the plot!..... crap....

"Something about the written page that causes eye-strain where reading on the Net does not"

Tablet. Kindle. Other device.

Seriously - I find the various tablets to be so much easier to read than the printed page. Try a few and see if one works for you.

Posted by: waldo at April 02, 2013 03:43 PM (TE8aX)

But he also knows how to be a conniving little bastard,   which makes him   that much more interesting.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 02, 2013 03:45 PM (ZPrif)

And swords 'n blood 'n tits 'n pissed off family members 'n brutality for the fun of it. The Middle Ages, in other words. Or the Kennedy family.

Posted by: Regular Moron at April 02, 2013 03:45 PM (feFL6)

easy, crusher.  I let my pent up hate for all reality shows get the best of me.  It's because I do get it that I get fired up and tend to clack clack the claymore early.

@82I read Ender's Game yesterday.

I gotta tell ya, I don't get the hype.

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I suspect that Ender's Game is a little too well known and has left a little too strong of an imprint on the genre in general.  In short, it's not the fresh and new book that it was when it first came out.  It's kind of like someone seeing "The Usual Suspects" for the first time in 2013.  What made it neat and interesting when it first came out oh so many years ago is now tired and overdone.  That's not through any fault of the original except, perhaps, that too many people liked it and decided to copy it with their own little twists.

Well, assuming for a moment that television entertainment requires anything more than, "OMG Fucking!" and "OMG Dragons!" the acting is first rate, and the political intrigue is interesting.

And as Ace has pointed out, the actresses who get naked look rather nice.

#159,

Saw the same thing in "Insatiable 3". Sort of...

173, yes, 'tis funny.

Posted by: Dr. Mr. Badman at April 02, 2013 03:46 PM (D8pR3)

Because the characters really are genuinely interesting.   I actually skip over the sex bits because they're annoying and get in the way of the rest of the plot.   All of the characters have   good and bad qualities,   and that's not sugarcoated in any way.    It's    rare to find that in a fantasy novel, where generally the good characters' positive traits are overwhelmingly more prevalent than their negatives,   and vice versa.  

Although   the truly nasty ones    in      GoT     are just NASTY.   Yes,     Cersei,      I'm looking at you.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 02, 2013 03:47 PM (xmcEQ)

I hear you.  I've been crawling around in the engine block of my dad's truck for about 3 years (I prefer trucks to cars since you can wiggle around those little bastards easier... more room).

Parts are getting harder to come by nowdays, though and I find myself at junk yards more than pep boys

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 02, 2013 03:50 PM (+aHgF)

And then people wonder why I Fence at Ren Faires.... LOL....

Posted by: © Sponge

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I would have passed. people really don't understand how expensive parts for those things are. If there are any surprises...God help them...

On the bright side, it makes me feel better about trying to restore a 68 GS Buick. It could be worse...

You suck ONE cock.......

...you've sucked 'em all?

That's been my experience.

"So it's like Dungeons and Dragons with nekkid people?"

Like I said, "LOTR w/t*ts", and a writer who thinks he's better/smarter than JRR Tolkien*.

...

* for those who think of Tolkien as a "young person's writer", I suggest you peruse his work on Beowulf and languages.

Posted by: The Gorn at April 02, 2013 03:43 PM (IkHXL)

So you going with earplugs for you or removal of functioning vocal cords for her, cause, you know, that quarter ton of loveliness has got a mouth on her.?

* for those who think of Tolkien as a "young person's writer",

There are people who think of Tolkien as a young person's writer?    Have they been hitting the pipe weed?

@166 ace

Re Wars of the Roses:  Yeah, hence my David Frost quip.

Martin has been doing this all very third-hand.  There's no there there, in terms of authorial ability to transmit anything coherent and compelling IMO. 

I don't mean this in terms of Martin's being Michael Moore-ish, but rather that, his (Martin's) physical bulk notwithstanding, there's almost nothing about him as a life-experienced and legitimately, deeply reflective person to put into the Fire and Ice saga.  Yeah, Martin invents "stuff" and worlds and characters, but there's no there there -- not in the way that there was with Tolkien.

Posted by: Jones in CO

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She is soooo unattractive and he's so enamored with her. he must be hard up or drunk a lot more than we think he is.

$400,000 for a wrecked F-40. I was wondering why the owner wasn't getting it fixed. What about insurance? Or suing the shop that wrecked it?

And when winter comes, the old dead things come down from the cold to kill the living.

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So Pelosi  and friends are in this  series too?  OMG!  They don't get naked, do they?

#198,

Seemingly, yes. On other boards dedicated to such things (yes, I know, I should spend more time here...) there are those fools who rate Martin > Tolkien.

>>it's like Dungeons and Dragons with nekkid people?

Needs more rape.

Posted by: Regular Moron

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I laugh at their idea of "profit". I know those people don't work for free. Those tools aren't donated, etc.

Posted by: Kitty Frontage formerly known as Jess1 at April 02, 2013 03:57 PM (lbiWb)

OMG.

Kill it.  Kill it with fire!!!!

>>it's like Dungeons and Dragons with nekkid people?

Needs more rape-rape

Posted by: George RR Martin at April 02, 2013 03:57 PM (seHKT)

FTFY

Here's a Tom Clancy Sex Scene:

"Lockheed called her the Ghostrider. ...

She had no corners, no box shapes to allow radar signals to bounce cleanly off her.

Her high-bypass turbofans were designed to emit a blurry infrared signature at most.

From above, her wings appeared to mimic the shape of a cathedral bell. From in front, they curved oddly toward the ground,... Though she was a masterpiece of electronic technology inside, she usually didn't use her active systems"

Mmmmmmmbaby.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 02, 2013 03:57 PM (xmcEQ)

Keep me updated.  Half my time is spent buying tools I didn't know I needed when I started (I'm sure you're in the same boat).

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Ampersand Shogun at April 02, 2013 03:59 PM (fMiHM)

Well, it's realistic in that regard.

I'm   not one for depressing, pessimistic views of the world in    the    books I read   --   probably because I've got a depressing, pessimistic view of the world I live in, so why compound it? --   but what I find most intriguing about GoT is     how characters    react to particular challenges.    Do they seek revenge, plot   murder,   turn the other cheek, run away...    The characters don't always take the path you expect, and often the path they take changes them profoundly, which tangles up their moral compasses even more.   They don't fix their mistakes.

I doubt the story will have a satisfying finale, just b/c I think Georgie Porgie doesn't have a clue how to WRITE a satisfying finale.   But I'm interested to see where all of these people end up, and    how    they get there.    The last time I was interested in characters like that was    reading  "The Belgariad,"   and GoT is much more diverse    and morally    challenging.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 02, 2013 04:00 PM (aDwsi)

parts nowdays are a BITCH to come by.  You'll find yourself crossing state lines to junk yards, trust me.

251,

I have got to get a copy of Sin City then. Stat!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 02, 2013 04:00 PM (aDwsi)

Honestly?  If I were to open a small business today it'd be a salvage yard.  You can charge top dollar these days because there's just nothing out there.  Buy a farmer's old truck for $300 and sell the parts for $3,000.

Posted by: tasker at April 02, 2013 04:04 PM (r2PLg)

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You forgot "yeast free".

Posted by: Mike Hammer

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They are, but it didn't used to be that way. From the time I got it until they started making parts two decades passed. Compared to a Chevy or Ford, prices are waaaay up there, tho.

Hang in there. As cars from the 60's and early 70's have been snapped up, people have been turning to the mid to late 70's ones. I'm betting we'll see more parts for your Cutlass soon.

Might consider reading the books. Old school, but a classic for a reason./i]

245...I doubt the story will have a satisfying finale, just b/c I think Georgie Porgie doesn't have a clue how to WRITE a satisfying finale.

A satisfying finale for me...would be to see the little blond boy-King, and his evil mother/aunt, get killed off in an especially painful way.

Like maybe...torched by the dragon-girl's dragons.

I hope most 78 Cutlass's haven't been crushed. It's a good looking car. Lots of potential too.

We have Desert Valley Auto Parts out here in AZ. They usually have what you need, but you tend to pay out the wazoo for it. However, if you are are regular they cut you deals.

What they ask for cars is insane.

>>>Given that the title of the book series is "Song of Ice and Fire," it's always seemed like a sure bet to me that Jon SNOW and Daenerys Targaryen, daughter of DRAGONS, would end up together.

it almost seems so obvious it can't be that simple.

that said, yes, it's probably that.

given that the dragon has three heads (i forget what prophecy that's in) the outstanding question is who is the third head, but that's not much of a question at all. It's Bran, duh.

Until book 5 I've assumed Bran as well (or maybe Tyrion once he decided to track down and serve Danerys, but he doesn't really fit into the "ice and fire" theme).  But after ADWD I'm wondering if it's the "surprise survivor" that was revealed (sorry to be vauge, trying to avoid obvious spoilers). 

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 02, 2013 04:09 PM (XYSwB)

Isn't it great?

BTW, does anyone    get   that annoying anti-piracy commercial on the radio?   Where the guy talks about how once upon a time people recorded songs and other people bought them and everyone was happy, but today people record songs    and make movies     and bad people download them for free?     I mean,    I    get the message.    It just peeves me     royally the way teh commercial acts like    performing arts are sacred and    precious,        and  there's some kind of     reverence we should pay to       "The Thong Song."  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at April 02, 2013 04:09 PM (4df7R)

That's where I put the book down and never picked it up again....

>>>I'm shocked nobody has mention how much space is devoted to describing food and eating said food.

I believe they finally came out with a GoT cookbook based on the ludicrous amount of things GRRM describes.

Oh my God the eels.  Eels everywhere!

I'm shocked nobody has mention how much space is devoted to describing food and eating said food.

I swear he takes this right out of "Beowulf" and CS Lewis.   My favorite parts in the "Narnia" series are often where the characters are sitting down to eat, and you get this wonderful description of all the food they're eating.    Of course, Georgie Porgie is less appealing than that, hence the Beowulf thing, which is all "haunch of boar" and "leg of mutton" and the like.

"Odors..., don't forget eye-watering odors"

This. I chuckle every time I see folks in flicks walking unconcerned next to a row of tradesmen and shops. Ever smell an open tannery? Rendered fat for lye? Cooked urine for ammonia?

Trust me, you ain't casually sauntering past any of those places whilst engaging in witty banter.

Oh, and I searched that Carla Gugino. Wow. She does seem to have, er, talents...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 02, 2013 04:10 PM (aDwsi)

I hear you, brother.  I met a cajun friend in my travels through the military, we became pretty close, and he always invited me home (Thibodaux, LA) for some of mama's crawfish.  More trucks and cars there ripe for the pickin' than anyone could imagine.

Good stuff.

Posted by: Croaker at April 02, 2013 04:13 PM (leNBy)

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Well, from what I've seen so far, you don't have to worry about that. 

Posted by: Pipboy 3000 at April 02, 2013 04:15 PM (ggRof)

Skip over it and you're golden.    I honestly have no idea what Tolkien was trying to do there and I wouldn't deign to guess, but you don't lose a thing by skipping it.   Very odd.

Posted by: © Sponge

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I blame Barrett Jackson for 90% of the problem. These egotistical idiots with more money than brains got in prick waving fights and jacked up the price of cars overnight. At one point I saw CLONES going for 6 figures!

I used to go every year before it became a spectacle; the in place to go. It was awesome. It was all about the cars. Now they are secondary at best.  

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 02, 2013 04:19 PM (XYSwB)

Ah, you mean the Paleolithic era.

Posted by: Croaker at April 02, 2013 04:13 PM (leNBy)

I really don't think GRR M has any clue how this is going to end... he just grabed what he thought was a cool title.... and is now milking the story for as long as it sells...  putting in extraneous plot lines...

Can anyone even tell me who the Protagonist is? 

I refuse to begin reading GoT until I'm sure he will finish it.

David Gerrold Syndrome is an ugly phenomenon.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 02, 2013 04:20 PM (lZBBB)

I'd say that by the nature of the story there are   multiple protagonists.      You really don't know who's going to win in the end, so each character is, essentially, a main character, and each character (of these main characters) undergoes some kind of character arc that causes them to change and grow.  

Or, you know, get killed off.   That happens a lot.

Posted by: ace at April 02, 2013 04:23 PM (LCRYB)

In more ways than one.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 02, 2013 04:20 PM (lZBBB)

I really don't think GRR M has any clue how this is going to end... he just grabed what he thought was a cool title.... and is now milking the story for as long as it sells...putting in extraneous plot lines...

If I remember correclty there was a pretty entertaining Twitter dust-up between Martin and the producers of Lost over exactly this point after the series finale. 

Posted by: Mike Hammer

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Niiice. I'll admit I don't know a lot about the Olds stuff, but you can't go wrong with 400+ C.I.  

I just don't understand why everyone isn't dredging for gold off of Nome.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 02, 2013 04:27 PM (XYSwB)

he wrote like 30 books.  Several trilogies.  When I got news he died in 2004 I was crushed, always wanted to meet him.

Posted by: Mike Hammer

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Same here. Seeing it ruined for the average Joe really turned me off to the whole thing.

The last time I went (4-5 years ago) they had a VIP parking section full of exotic supercars. It was right next to the entrance. The parking for us schmoes was in BFE and you had to catch a shuttle that bounced you around like a bean in a can.

@295
"Odors..., don't forget eye-watering odors"
This. I chuckle every time I see folks in flicks walking unconcerned next to a row of tradesmen and shops. Ever smell an open tannery? Rendered fat for lye? Cooked urine for ammonia?
Trust me, you ain't casually sauntering past any of those places whilst engaging in witty banter.
Oh, and I searched that Carla Gugino. Wow. She does seem to have, er, talents...

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Tracy Hickman, one half of the original Dragonlance team, released a book a couple of years ago (Eventide - not D&D related in any way, shape, or form) that featured, among other things, a tanner who had been born with no sense of smell.  The problems that others have when visiting him are pretty funny.  Of course, what gets even better is when he suddenly wakes up one morning and his nose is working properly...

>>>But after ADWD I'm wondering if it's the "surprise survivor" that was revealed (sorry to be vauge, trying to avoid obvious spoilers).

who are you talking about? you mean C? Or do you mean the kid that goes around with Jon Connington claiming to be a descendant of the Targaryens?

If you mean the latter, it's not going to be some pretender just discovered in book 5 of a 7 book series.

If you mean the former, also no. She's a monster.

The latter, and I hope you're correct that he ends up being a pretender - just seemed like Martin might have been going for an alternate "SURPRISE!" since everyone has figured out the R+L=J "twist".

#102:   Of course I would hang myself before watching a mini series about the Bible. Posted by: doug at April 02, 2013 03:30 PM (Lf1Ga)

Whatever that means.   Ex-Christian here, so I have challenged major assumptions more than once...

328,

Now that would be a good tale. I'll look it up.

@328

 not DD related in any way, shape, or form

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Stupid lack of ampersands.

>.<

That should obviously read "... not D and D related..."

@334
328,
Now that would be a good tale. I'll look it up.

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Just to give you a heads up, the book is a collection of short stories that take place over the course of several months, and are strung together to form a complete plot.  The book as a whole is written with a focus on humor.  The tanner doesn't appear until one of the later stories.

@338> That should obviously read "... not D and D related..."

Posted by: junior at April 02, 2013 04:34 PM (UWFpX)


like this: D&D

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Which is exactly the way that I wrote it.  Instead, it came out looking like the book wasn't related to a discussion of bra sizes.  Of course, that's not exactly inaccurate.  It's just not what I was intending to say.

"Gidget Goes Hawaiian".   Now  THERE's a movie.

I used to watch GoT for the nudity, then I got interested in it. However, it has gotten to convoluted and boring. There has been a lot of build up with no battle between the 'people' and the white walkers.