December 19, 2013
— JohnE. Well, isn't this interesting. Just in the last hour or so, both the official Barack Obama and Organizing for America Twitter accounts have shifted their messaging from touting the benefits and success stories of Obamacare (few as they may be), to scare-whoring the costs of repealing the law.

In addition to that, WhiteHouse.gov put out a pdf bullet-pointing the parade of horribles should the American public decide they want to go this route.

This seems like a pretty significant backpedal. They've also gone to the expense of crunching the numbers (assuming they can be believed anymore than previous estimates) on the costs and interruptions associated with repealing the law at this late date. Not just nationally, but they've done this on a state-by-state basis as well. It appears a lot of time went into this new talking point.
They're also admitting that the law has significant problems:
Moving forward, the President and Democrats in Congress are committed to improving the health care law and fixing it when the need arises. Every day more uninsured Americans are signing up for plans as the website gets faster and more people with insurance are benefiting from the law.I'm not sure if they're seeing disastrous internal polling or if this is a shot at the increasingly-weak knees of several red state Democrat Senators up for reelection next year, but either way, this is not exactly a position of strength. Repealing our signature law that is creating nationwide disruptions and confusion will likely cause more disruptions and confusion! Sure, run with that. Also, the website will be faster. Huzzah.
If you're explaining, you're losing, as they say.
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Posted by: 7 Days in May at December 19, 2013 10:53 AM (j6DTo)
Posted by: no good deed at December 19, 2013 10:54 AM (HsJeN)
Posted by: oejay44cday at December 19, 2013 10:55 AM (3RFv9)
Posted by: oejay44cday at December 19, 2013 10:56 AM (3RFv9)
parade of horribles, maybe. idioms are sketchy
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 10:57 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 19, 2013 10:57 AM (8ZskC)
But it's a cost we could afford, just like the repeal of ChoomCare, and the wholesale removal of the cronies and co-conspirators of the current regime who have bankrupted, de-Constitutionalized and sullied the name of the United States.
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 19, 2013 10:57 AM (veRXo)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 19, 2013 10:58 AM (IRpZs)
Posted by: Hal at December 19, 2013 10:58 AM (MftY/)
Posted by: MMW at December 19, 2013 10:58 AM (kt/h1)
Posted by: joncelli at December 19, 2013 10:58 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Wm. Shakespeare at December 19, 2013 10:59 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: oejay44cday at December 19, 2013 10:59 AM (3RFv9)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2013 10:59 AM (Zm0GY)
Posted by: Just A Friendly Shark Minding His Own Business at December 19, 2013 11:00 AM (V9ol4)
Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request [/i] at December 19, 2013 11:00 AM (6Nqkf)
Posted by: Concealedkerry or SubMitt at December 19, 2013 11:02 AM (vXqv3)
Posted by: (Luftschiffbau Zeppelin GmbH at December 19, 2013 11:02 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: tcn at December 19, 2013 11:02 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Pajama Boy [/i] at December 19, 2013 11:02 AM (6Nqkf)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2013 11:02 AM (Zm0GY)
Posted by: Juan de Hattatime at December 19, 2013 11:03 AM (p7LQY)
Posted by: awkward davies at December 19, 2013 11:03 AM (WK8VM)
Posted by: tcn at December 19, 2013 03:02 PM (fwcEs)
You forgot the "kill it with fire/shoot the ashes out of a cannon" part.
Posted by: joncelli at December 19, 2013 11:03 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Lt. Commander Deanna Troi of Starfleet at December 19, 2013 11:03 AM (V9ol4)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 19, 2013 02:58 PM (IRpZs) "
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Nice visual. You didn't mention the team uniform: mom jeans and a bicycle helmet.
Posted by: WisRich at December 19, 2013 11:04 AM (hdpay)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2013 11:04 AM (Zm0GY)
Posted by: tcn at December 19, 2013 11:04 AM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:04 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Progressive Santa Clause at December 19, 2013 11:04 AM (rCS6C)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 19, 2013 11:04 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Frank Costanza at December 19, 2013 11:04 AM (/Crba)
The "cost of repeal" would be at least a marginal return to the citizenry of the ability to live according to those outmoded concepts of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness (generally defined as not having some fucking government bureaucrat present and taking notes every time you visit your proctologist or gynocologist).
Posted by: Sharkman at December 19, 2013 11:05 AM (TM1p8)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 11:05 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2013 11:06 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 19, 2013 11:06 AM (Asjr7)
John Boner said that he will do everything within his power to lie about repealing the law, and to make you think he's a staunch rock ribbed bedrock conservative.
We will work with the President to make the law of the land work, but you shouldn't know it.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 11:07 AM (xggaJ)
Posted by: NeverStops at December 19, 2013 11:07 AM (6Hspk)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2013 11:07 AM (Zm0GY)
Posted by: Bosk at December 19, 2013 11:07 AM (n2K+4)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 19, 2013 11:08 AM (qyfb5)
For myself, the whole ACA is such a horror, likely repealing it is the easier, cheaper, and least-damaging way out - at least when compared to going ahead and trying to fix it as the ooopsies become evident.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 19, 2013 03:06 PM (Asjr7)
Or they're preparing to say "It would cost X to repeal it, but if we spend X - Y, where Y is a number we just yanked out of our anus, we would fix it and everything would be great, so give us X-Y!"
Posted by: joncelli at December 19, 2013 11:08 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 19, 2013 11:08 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Dr. Hubert Farnzworth at December 19, 2013 11:08 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Brian Boitano at December 19, 2013 11:09 AM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 19, 2013 11:09 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2013 11:09 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: Concealedkerry or SubMitt at December 19, 2013 11:09 AM (vXqv3)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 19, 2013 11:09 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 19, 2013 11:09 AM (k3dAe)
Posted by: The White House at December 19, 2013 11:09 AM (FcR7P)
'bout time the Libtards were on that side of the fence.
Posted by: Janir at December 19, 2013 11:09 AM (pOZma)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 19, 2013 11:10 AM (sKsAS)
I don't get it. That's what ACA already does, so what would change?
Posted by: George LeS at December 19, 2013 11:10 AM (r5P5x)
Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 19, 2013 11:10 AM (QupBk)
But what will all those pajama clad sexually-indeterminate keyboard jockeys do? Where will they buy their purses and crappy shirts, and what ABOUT THEIR HAIR!!!
DONT YOU CARE!!!!
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 11:10 AM (xggaJ)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:10 AM (/Crba)
==
Not just Dem senators in red states. ALL Dem senators up for reelection next year. Yeah, and that includes Hawaii.
Posted by: mrp at December 19, 2013 11:10 AM (HjPtV)
I agree. Costs would go up...for a week or two.
When the free market sorted out the return to supply/demand and profit/loss issues, freed of the bullshit "adjustments," reckless orders and government controls foisted on us by Choom Boy's regime, costs would drop to pre-ChoomCare levels.
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 19, 2013 11:10 AM (veRXo)
Posted by: Brian Boitano at December 19, 2013 03:09 PM (Kkt/i)
And it only cost three times as much as the web site!
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 19, 2013 11:10 AM (+H/11)
>>>Translation: "We introduced a parasite into your body but you shouldn't have it removed because the operation would be painful. Just let it eat your insides, that's much less trouble."
Sometimes it just makes more sense to give your mother the pain pill rather than a new hip.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 11:11 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 19, 2013 11:11 AM (659DL)
Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2013 11:11 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Ian S. at December 19, 2013 11:12 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: chelsea danger at December 19, 2013 11:12 AM (KfDDN)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 19, 2013 11:12 AM (TQbuA)
We fucked things up so extraordinarily that it would be too costly to clean up!!
#winning.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 19, 2013 11:12 AM (0nxbr)
Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2013 11:12 AM (FcR7P)
Frankly, repealing it now would be enormously expensive and disruptive.
And totally the fault of the democrats, as well.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 11:12 AM (AX3vC)
And Option B is even worse.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 19, 2013 11:13 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:13 AM (/Crba)
If O-care gets repealed, do all the snot-nosed smarmy kids what voted in TFG get booted off their parent's insurance, like, instantaneously?
Becoz thats fkn cool, if so.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 11:13 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Andy Sullivan with Bells On! at December 19, 2013 11:13 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 19, 2013 11:13 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 19, 2013 11:13 AM (veRXo)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at December 19, 2013 11:13 AM (F192H)
Paging Dr. Orwell, you'r e wanted in the psych ward.
Paging Dr. Orwell.
You think that bright boy Barry ever read 1984?
I wonder what books the self-proclaimed genius has read, other than magazine articles about himself.
I doubt he's well-read.
Chauncey Gardiner is more well-read than Jug Knight.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 11:13 AM (xggaJ)
Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2013 11:13 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Mindy at December 19, 2013 11:14 AM (GRLuN)
Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 11:14 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at December 19, 2013 11:14 AM (F192H)
Posted by: boned to the bone at December 19, 2013 11:14 AM (Ph479)
Posted by: Andy Sullivan with Bells On! at December 19, 2013 11:14 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 19, 2013 11:15 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Grimace le Tot at December 19, 2013 11:15 AM (fQfMY)
One of the first things you learn in econ is about insurance, and moral hazard, shit like that.
None of these imbeciles know what that is. Or if they do, don't care, just cuz.
We have a country run by the worst people you could pick.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 11:15 AM (xggaJ)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 11:15 AM (AX3vC)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 19, 2013 11:15 AM (659DL)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 19, 2013 11:16 AM (sKsAS)
Posted by: Concealedkerry or SubMitt at December 19, 2013 11:16 AM (vXqv3)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:16 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 19, 2013 11:16 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Mindy at December 19, 2013 11:16 AM (GRLuN)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 19, 2013 11:16 AM (659DL)
PJ boy looks a lot like Pat from SNL.
Is it a bad thing to have hairy arms and not shave and not be all like folded in on yourself and all cuddly cute and mincing gaily?
Guess it is, according to the gobermint.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 11:16 AM (xggaJ)
If you like your repeal, you can keep your repeal. You're just going to have to pay more for it.
Posted by: Ezekial Emanuel at December 19, 2013 11:17 AM (wAQA5)
Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2013 11:17 AM (FcR7P)
Probably prepping the battlespace for some bad numbers...
***
Also, OFA manages Barack Obama's twitter, Facebook, and BarackObama(dot)com accounts, so it shouldn't be surprising that their messages are in synch. They've had control of them since January, 2013.
WHat's surprising is that OFA has 501c status as a non-partisan organization.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 19, 2013 11:17 AM (ruxvM)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at December 19, 2013 11:17 AM (F192H)
Hey, regime:
You know, a sunk cost argument in a college level business class gets you an "F", right?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 11:17 AM (AX3vC)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 19, 2013 11:17 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 19, 2013 11:17 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 19, 2013 11:18 AM (WdbF7)
Never in the course of human history has the line between malice and incompetence been so successfully blurred.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 19, 2013 11:18 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 19, 2013 11:18 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: boned to the bone at December 19, 2013 11:18 AM (Ph479)
Some things are worth paying more for, even if you need to sacrifice for a time. Like shoes, fresh food, quality dentistry...
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 11:18 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at December 19, 2013 11:18 AM (F192H)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 03:15 PM (AX3vC)
The evil Republicans FORCED us to pass it! Reelect us so we can stop their nefarious plans!
Posted by: New Dem Talking Point, circa April 2014 at December 19, 2013 11:18 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 19, 2013 11:19 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at December 19, 2013 11:19 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2013 11:19 AM (BM7dA)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:19 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2013 11:19 AM (t+DWU)
The IRS is run by people who worked his campaign. I'm not surprised at all.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 19, 2013 11:19 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Andy Sullivan with Bells On! at December 19, 2013 11:19 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: ejo at December 19, 2013 11:19 AM (GXvSO)
Posted by: DVDA at December 19, 2013 11:19 AM (/Crba)
They're gonna help us save money by havin us spend more.
But we can get all these subsidies and stuff, which dont cost nuthin.
We are in good hands.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 11:20 AM (xggaJ)
Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 19, 2013 11:20 AM (yICtd)
Posted by: Nigel Tufnel at December 19, 2013 11:20 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2013 11:20 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: #barackobama [/i] [/b] at December 19, 2013 11:20 AM (5ikDv)
Posted by: MTF at December 19, 2013 11:20 AM (F58x4)
1. Denial and Isolation. CHECK!
2. Anger CHECK!
3. Bargaining CHECK!
4. Depression (coming soon)
5. Acceptance (coming soon)
Posted by: B at December 19, 2013 11:20 AM (VC56G)
They have all the spaghetti in the world to throw at the fridge. Too bad the electorate ordered veal.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 19, 2013 11:20 AM (eHIJJ)
Harry Reid has decided to sign up for 404Care through the DC exchange.
Oh, what's that... even though he makes $193k a year, and is way outside the range a normal person would be at for a subsidy, he's getting one.
Because FU that's why.
Posted by: loves to hate at December 19, 2013 11:20 AM (GDgxf)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 11:21 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Dick Jones, OCP at December 19, 2013 11:21 AM (/Crba)
Heh, Styx. Kinda fitting since Obama's policy ideas are also decades old.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 19, 2013 11:21 AM (ruxvM)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at December 19, 2013 11:21 AM (F192H)
Hey -
maybe they're trying to stir the pot for a real repeal movement so some briliant-er Dem can show up with Teh Single Payer Bill What Saves Us All
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 11:21 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 19, 2013 11:21 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 19, 2013 11:22 AM (sv/s3)
Posted by: toby928© Of Crazy Toby's Health-arama at December 19, 2013 11:22 AM (QupBk)
Look, we just need to get single-payer going and it's going to be all ok.
Jeezis, are people stupid.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 11:22 AM (xggaJ)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at December 19, 2013 11:22 AM (F192H)
Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 11:22 AM (MMC8r)
If they cannot honestly answer these questions, then the cost of repeal cannot be higher than the cost of keeping the damn thing. Depending on your interpretation, restoring the nation to the intent of the Constitution would be quite expensive, too. But with $17 trillion and counting of debt what we have is already defining the upper limits of 'expensive.'
Posted by: Epobirs at December 19, 2013 11:23 AM (bPxS6)
Posted by: don't scorn reform, but cast out the still born at December 19, 2013 11:23 AM (R6JT1)
Posted by: Dennis DeYoung at December 19, 2013 11:23 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2013 11:24 AM (t+DWU)
It would be a damn shame were their dream team of Ran and Boner have to actually do something other than lie their asses off.
Damned shame, it would be super difficult, I know.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 11:24 AM (xggaJ)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:24 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 19, 2013 11:24 AM (IRpZs)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 19, 2013 11:24 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Navigator on the Titanic at December 19, 2013 11:24 AM (MMC8r)
Hey now, I just heard that "Love is the Best Protection!"
Posted by: Lizzy at December 19, 2013 11:25 AM (ruxvM)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 19, 2013 11:25 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 19, 2013 11:25 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: President Barack Obama at December 19, 2013 11:26 AM (7ObY1)
Two thirds of Americans are temporarily and illegally exempt from this POS, and it is still going down in flames.
Cost? I think restitution from the democrat donors should cover the cost of shutting this monstrosity down.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 11:26 AM (AX3vC)
heh. Its kind of like a big admission of the lie about how much Odeathcare was gonna cost.
Of course the retort is that none of those things mentioned in the letter was actually free, there are massive new taxes on all kinds of things, including health care insurance and prescriptions to pay for those "free" things.
Finally, it costs nothing to repeal but a little ink, it costs the whole healthcare system in this country to keep it in place.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 19, 2013 11:27 AM (MaP11)
Posted by: Fritz at December 19, 2013 11:27 AM (TKFmG)
Posted by: edj[/i] at December 19, 2013 11:27 AM (klzyR)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 19, 2013 11:27 AM (9rNUl)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at December 19, 2013 11:27 AM (6Nqkf)
Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 03:22 PM (MMC8r)
Congratulations, you nailed it in one.
Posted by: joncelli at December 19, 2013 11:27 AM (RD7QR)
And now hospitals and charities are chipping in to pay premiums:
"The idea is that the hospitals (or other providers) would somehow subsidize their patients' premiums in order to make sure they remained insured, and therefore more likely to pay (or have someone pay) their bills."
Posted by: speedster1 at December 19, 2013 11:28 AM (v40Bj)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at December 19, 2013 11:28 AM (09o/X)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 03:21 PM (3ZtZW)
-------------------------------------------------
The single payer law has been already written up and in some dem congressman's office safe for years.
Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2013 11:28 AM (BM7dA)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at December 19, 2013 11:28 AM (Dwehj)
Posted by: OchoBanditosASSEMBLE! at December 19, 2013 11:29 AM (SumQv)
Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 11:29 AM (MMC8r)
"I'm thinking they may have skipped from "anger" straight into "depression".
They've been in anger since at least 2000 and Gore v. Bush. Can't be healthy.
Posted by: Lee (in KY) at December 19, 2013 11:29 AM (gVyYO)
Do you recall the movie "Around the World in 80 Days", where Phineas Fogg buys the steamship, and burns the cargo and all flammable portions of the ship in order to keep up steam to reach England?
Same thing here, except we are the people expected to pay full price for the steamer once it reaches port.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 11:29 AM (AX3vC)
Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 11:30 AM (MMC8r)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/barbie-serial-killer-10-610x581.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2013 11:30 AM (Zm0GY)
Posted by: Emperor Barack the Magnificent at December 19, 2013 11:30 AM (9qt/T)
Posted by: Lady in Black, on iPhone & not responsible for typos at December 19, 2013 11:30 AM (bct5R)
The next thing you know, he'll be stopping by the Marine Guard at the helicopter entrance and asking for a light...
Posted by: B at December 19, 2013 11:30 AM (VC56G)
Short version:
1. I took a gigantic dump on your front lawn.
2. Man, is that going to be hard to clean up! Maybe just leaving it there is a viable option.
Posted by: The Regular Guy at December 19, 2013 11:31 AM (qHCyt)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 19, 2013 11:31 AM (6x+VL)
Posted by: joncelli at December 19, 2013 03:08 PM (RD7QR)
Given how Obamacare is screwing us all, I would keep your example but switch X for K. Because we're all going to need some KY for what's coming our direction.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 19, 2013 11:31 AM (+/C3g)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:31 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 19, 2013 11:31 AM (sKsAS)
Repeal obamacare and say goodbye to midnight basketball.
Posted by: Bent Bill Clinton at December 19, 2013 03:23 PM (bkTIc)
Bah. Can't see the basket anyway.
Posted by: Inner City Kid at December 19, 2013 11:31 AM (RD7QR)
We asked that that bill not be passed
We said that that law was passed illegally
We tried to repeal that law twice
We tried to get the law struck down
Our fears, having been made real, have been shown to be true
And yet somehow, someway, you think that you can convince us, despite all your KNOWN lies before about this bill, that it will be better to accept this mess than to repeal it and recover and try again?
Now I understand why Valerie Jarrett is taking interviews about how SHE'S not responsible for this mess. HUH UH no way am I the Chief of Staff.
Even Hillary has backed up a bit and claims she'll decide whether or not to run in 2016 later.
So far the only guy taking it on the chin in this admin is John F'n Kerry.
Everyone else is AWOL. (and even Kerry went back to 'Nam. Scene of his LAST triumph)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 11:31 AM (LSDdO)
Everyone else? Not so much.
Posted by: Marcus at December 19, 2013 11:31 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:32 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Carol at December 19, 2013 11:33 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: AmishDude at December 19, 2013 11:33 AM (Hw3b3)
Posted by: Troy Aikman at December 19, 2013 11:33 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at December 19, 2013 11:33 AM (j0wOO)
Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 11:33 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 19, 2013 11:33 AM (t3UFN)
Isn't that the argument they are trying to make?
Do they really believe the thousands of people losing their plans, doctor choices, medications, treatment options and unable to afford the new premiums and deductibles believe that?
Posted by: Marcus at December 19, 2013 11:33 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: jakeman at December 19, 2013 11:34 AM (vH4YP)
Stop right there
I gotta know right now
Before we go any further....
I'm praying for the end of time
So I can end my time with you.
Just say no.
Posted by: AE at December 19, 2013 11:34 AM (sSKe8)
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at December 19, 2013 11:35 AM (2oU2+)
Repeal it, and I swear I'll blow this n*gger's head ALL OVER THIS TOWN!!
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 19, 2013 11:35 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Mallamutt, using OAF Logic to do what he wants at December 19, 2013 11:35 AM (wfk7/)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 19, 2013 11:35 AM (ruxvM)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2013 11:35 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 11:35 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Daybrother at December 19, 2013 11:36 AM (Gj4R8)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:36 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 19, 2013 11:36 AM (fWX8r)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/b] [/s] at December 19, 2013 11:36 AM (HA2Ey)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 19, 2013 11:36 AM (qIFL7)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 19, 2013 11:36 AM (7ObY1)
Apparently you CAN tell a book by it's cover.
Those pics of him are pretty, well, swishy.
AND he has that sneer plastered on his puss in most of them.
He does have a face that cries out for a fist. (or a fisting?)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 11:36 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 11:36 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:36 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: toby928© Of Crazy Toby's Health-arama at December 19, 2013 11:37 AM (QupBk)
Tell me what way the wind is blowing?
Look at this way: If there was strong support against repeal, then the argument would be "look at all these polls opposing repeal."
Posted by: RoyalOil at December 19, 2013 11:37 AM (VjL9S)
"Repeal would raise costs, strip protections from families across America."
Guess what, fuckrockets: THAT HAPPENED WHEN THE LAW WENT INTO EFFECT.
I wish I was still amazed that they can proclaim this stuff without bursting into flames as their pants catch fire, but I'm not.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 19, 2013 11:37 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 19, 2013 11:37 AM (MPG6L)
Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 11:37 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:37 AM (nVRvy)
***
:-) That album CD is in my truck CD changer right at this moment.
Posted by: B at December 19, 2013 11:37 AM (VC56G)
Posted by: Mallamutt, using OAF Logic to do what he wants at December 19, 2013 11:38 AM (wfk7/)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:32 PM (/Crba)
I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE!!!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 19, 2013 11:38 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:38 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:38 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2013 11:38 AM (BM7dA)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:39 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:39 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 19, 2013 11:39 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2013 11:39 AM (t+DWU)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:40 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: edj[/i] at December 19, 2013 11:40 AM (klzyR)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 11:40 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 19, 2013 11:40 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: Registered Voter at December 19, 2013 11:40 AM (Hdbf3)
Moving forward, the President and Democrats in Congress are committed to improving the health care law and fixing it when the need arises.
*ragetwitching*
THE NEED HAS ARISEN. THE NEED HAS ARISEN LIKE FUCKING NOSFERATU FROM THE GRAVE. AND YOU CANNOT FIX IT, YOU CAN ONLY STAKE IT THROUGH THE HEART!
I HATE these people!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 19, 2013 11:40 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:40 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Null at December 19, 2013 11:40 AM (P7hip)
And all the stooges with their coins
They're the ones who make the rules, it's not a game it's just a rout
Posted by: AE at December 19, 2013 11:40 AM (sSKe8)
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 19, 2013 11:40 AM (fWX8r)
Posted by: dirks strewn at December 19, 2013 11:40 AM (kfcYC)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:41 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 11:41 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: jakeman at December 19, 2013 11:42 AM (vH4YP)
At least repealing it will be a one time cost. Keeping it is a gift that keeps on costing.
Posted by: Nick Shaw at December 19, 2013 11:42 AM (9Xn+t)
If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, people with life-threatening illnesses will lose their coverage.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 19, 2013 11:42 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Mega at December 19, 2013 11:42 AM (hHFOx)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:42 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: Concealedkerry or SubMitt at December 19, 2013 11:42 AM (vXqv3)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 19, 2013 11:42 AM (sKsAS)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 19, 2013 11:42 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 19, 2013 11:42 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:42 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:43 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: toby928© Of Crazy Toby's Health-arama at December 19, 2013 11:43 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:43 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 19, 2013 11:43 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 19, 2013 11:43 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Hollowhead at December 19, 2013 11:43 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:43 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: edj at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (klzyR)
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And what about all those IRS agents we hired. Those people have families too. Do you want them to be homeless?
Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2013 11:43 AM (BM7dA)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 19, 2013 11:44 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Your President, All Shaky at December 19, 2013 11:44 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:44 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: the amazing cult of kool aid at December 19, 2013 11:44 AM (eQZZW)
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 03:43 PM (tWmgi)
Of course!
And now we've found out.
And we don't like it.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 19, 2013 11:44 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Zombie Sandman at December 19, 2013 11:45 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 19, 2013 11:45 AM (sKsAS)
Posted by: losthusker at December 19, 2013 11:45 AM (qergu)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 11:45 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: SH at December 19, 2013 11:45 AM (F1lOF)
Posted by: Mega at December 19, 2013 11:45 AM (hHFOx)
That's how I see it. Those secret internal polls both sides run must have Duh!1 so low he's in the Labrea tar pits.
Posted by: backhoe at December 19, 2013 11:45 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:46 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: Carol at December 19, 2013 11:46 AM (z4WKX)
1) a free market
2) control of your medical destiny
3) no ability for the democrats to punitively use health as another arrow in the quiver....
yeah downside Ogabe?
Fuck you I am not seeing it.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 11:46 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Emperor Barack IV at December 19, 2013 11:46 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 11:46 AM (AX3vC)
Yes.
Or in jail, if they've participated in using their position to harass taxpayers whose point of view they don't like.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 19, 2013 11:47 AM (ruxvM)
I've never kissed a boy but I'd like to try. Call me, m'kay?
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 19, 2013 03:36 PM (7ObY1)
The "m'kay" is all the proof you need to know the guy's a colossal douche. No one says (let alone writes) "m'kay" unless they're
A) Being deliberately snarky, or
B) A douche
Frequently the two overlap.
Why am I unsurprised he likes Miley Cyrus and chick flicks? I can't stand either.
I knew an Ethan in grade school. The guy was a total dick and a loser. This guy? Doesnt' even rate on the dick scale, but definitely a loser.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 19, 2013 11:47 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 19, 2013 11:47 AM (ZBjRZ)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 19, 2013 11:47 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Sandy Fluke's Roast Beef Lips at December 19, 2013 11:47 AM (/Crba)
Cicero I salute you.
My presence here is not needed I yield back the balance of my time.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 11:48 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at December 19, 2013 11:48 AM (9Bdcz)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke 2[/i] at December 19, 2013 11:48 AM (klzyR)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:49 AM (nVRvy)
Mark my words.
Posted by: JPowell at December 19, 2013 11:49 AM (+SXXg)
Posted by: HillaryCare II at December 19, 2013 11:49 AM (JKrHx)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:49 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 19, 2013 11:49 AM (ZBjRZ)
If the ACA is repealed, what will happen to us?
Posted by: The Navigator's at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (pJF+c)
Pursue opportunities with the Soylent Green corporation.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 19, 2013 11:49 AM (4df7R)
So the Megyn Kelly and Duck Dynasty diversions haven't been able to drawa attention away from ObamaCare's myriad failures and now they are falling back on the old "If I go down, you do down with me," claim?
That's what a hostage taker does, Mr. Obama. One who is trying desperately to salvage something out of a debacle.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 19, 2013 11:49 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:50 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: The GOP at December 19, 2013 11:50 AM (hHFOx)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (4df7R)
I have blown through the HATE zone and am coasting in the quiet tidal pool of contemplation of various plans of revenge.
So far I'm up to plan Z.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 11:50 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:50 AM (/Crba)
Posted by: Jean at December 19, 2013 11:51 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 19, 2013 11:51 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:51 AM (nVRvy)
If the ACA is repealed, both Uncle Oscar and Aunt Zeutini will suffer immensely, and that's not fair to these great Americans.
Posted by: Michelle O'Bama at December 19, 2013 11:51 AM (pJF+c)
Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 19, 2013 11:51 AM (yICtd)
Fuck you I am not seeing it.
The Little Sisters of the Poor won't have to buy health insurance that covers abortions for the nuns. They can use the money they save to help the poor; SCOAMF and his cronies/handlers will lose some of their power over the poor if they know they don't need the gov't to get a meal.
Can't let that happen, now, can they?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 19, 2013 11:51 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 19, 2013 03:49 PM (hLRSq)
"Shoot the hostage."
"What?"
"Take her out of the equation. Go for the good wound. He can't get to the plane with her."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 19, 2013 11:51 AM (4df7R)
Eyewitnesses say balcony collapse at Apollo Theatre in central London during performance has trapped people - @BBCBreaking
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 19, 2013 11:51 AM (0nxbr)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 11:51 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 19, 2013 11:52 AM (h4eud)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:52 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: SH at December 19, 2013 11:52 AM (F1lOF)
Posted by: Baraka--my thumb tastes good at December 19, 2013 11:52 AM (BM7dA)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:53 AM (/Crba)
Sandra Fluke Hardest Hit
Posted by: B at December 19, 2013 03:50 PM (VC56G)
Is it possible to hit Sandy Fluke hard, with a vagina that loose?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 19, 2013 11:53 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: edj[/i] at December 19, 2013 11:53 AM (klzyR)
Posted by: Thunderb at December 19, 2013 11:53 AM (zOTsN)
What bothers me is this whole raging clusterfuck inferno has taught me there are no heroes in healthcare or the Govt.
If Doctors were smart they would say "fuck this and fuck insurance" and let real market forces take over.
The fact is the entire health insurance healthcare subsidy biz is a perpetual motion payola machine.
My heart is breaking.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 11:54 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:54 AM (/Crba)
>>>AND he has that sneer plastered on his puss in most of them.
It's not a sneer. It's my doody-in-my-PJ's face. Cuz mommy will wipe my butt.
Posted by: Pajama Boy who can't stomach the cocoa at December 19, 2013 11:54 AM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:54 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 19, 2013 11:54 AM (yICtd)
Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 19, 2013 03:52 PM (h4eud)
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Heh. Now that's funny.
Posted by: Baraka--my thumb tastes good at December 19, 2013 11:54 AM (BM7dA)
If the ACA is repealed, I'll be forced to return to flat-backing for a living, and that's not a pleasant thought, especially with clients like #9.
Posted by: Ashley Dupre at December 19, 2013 11:55 AM (pJF+c)
***
That's not helping as much as you think...
:-)
Posted by: B at December 19, 2013 11:55 AM (VC56G)
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 19, 2013 11:55 AM (E+uky)
Posted by: Jean at December 19, 2013 11:55 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 19, 2013 11:55 AM (yICtd)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 19, 2013 11:55 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Arbalest at December 19, 2013 11:56 AM (FlRtG)
Posted by: Marcus, Now The Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:56 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: jakeman at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (vH4YP)
He's really Rachel Maddow?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 11:56 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: stickety at December 19, 2013 11:56 AM (+Vm+w)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 11:57 AM (aDwsi)
She's his wife Chris Hayes....
Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 11:57 AM (9jfyN)
Posted by: the amazing cult of kool aid at December 19, 2013 11:57 AM (eQZZW)
Yes, because nothing says normal like a male wearing some chicks feety pajamas.
Posted by: Marcus, Now The Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 11:57 AM (nVRvy)
Posted by: Daybrother at December 19, 2013 11:58 AM (OpqT8)
"Repeal would raise costs, strip protections from families across America."
Don't call his bluff, America
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 11:58 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 19, 2013 11:58 AM (yICtd)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 11:58 AM (/Crba)
Comes to me after a couple months says his landlord bugging him to get rid of the car and he can't afford to have it towed.
I says "So?"
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 11:59 AM (LSDdO)
Oh, good to know.
Harry Reid has decided to sign up for 404Care through the DC exchange.
Oh, what's that... even though he makes $193k a year, and is way outside the range a normal person would be at for a subsidy, he's getting one.
Because FU that's why.
Posted by: loves to hate at December 19, 2013 03:20 PM (GDgxf)
He's a Nevada resident, or he's supposed to be. Why is he signing up through the DC exchange?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 19, 2013 11:59 AM (TIIx5)
PJ: Hey, who dunked their johnson on my coffee?
Dude: How do you know someone did that?
PJ: Ummmm
Posted by: Marcus, Now The Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 12:00 PM (nVRvy)
You know fuck it....
maybe we should out retard populist the fuckers and get our Mirror Universe John Boehner on....
hey America trillion dollar deficits don't bother you and you want free shit?
Have I got a deal for you divide a trillion by 300 million and you get 3333 and a third.
So elect me and I will cut you a 3400 dollar check....
Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 12:00 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: eman at December 19, 2013 12:02 PM (EWsrI)
Posted by: AE at December 19, 2013 12:02 PM (sSKe8)
Guys like my father-in-law will benefit greatly from Obamacare. People in the middle to upper-middle class will be totally screwed because they will need to pay far more in order to make selling insurance to poor people profitable.
Posted by: stickety at December 19, 2013 03:56 PM (+Vm+w)
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He's a low-income old man with a deductable of $3500 and you're calling this a good plan? My parents weren't poor, but just the deductable would have wrecked them financially.
Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2013 12:03 PM (BM7dA)
With a vase on the dash board?
There's a car that says WOMYN
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 12:03 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: jakeman at December 19, 2013 12:05 PM (vH4YP)
Posted by: Mr. Peabody at December 19, 2013 12:06 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at December 19, 2013 12:08 PM (6Nqkf)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 19, 2013 12:09 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: SH at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (F1lOF)
We can never win by relying on the ineptitude of our opponents. We can exploit their ineptitude (and other glaring weaknesses) when the opportunity presents itself, but even that alone won't do the trick. To win, we need to push our positives. Either our ideas are better than theirs, or they're not. We need that conviction or we'll always, invariably, inevitably lose.
Besides, they have the media. Ineptitude isn't an exploitable flaw if no one knows about it. People still think Bush is responsible for the economy.
Posted by: troyriser at December 19, 2013 12:10 PM (V9ol4)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 12:12 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: avi at December 19, 2013 12:17 PM (kcF49)
And, Hill-Holder clutch. Also stolen from Studebaker.
Almost all "modern" engines have a mandatory cam belt replacement. I hate it, but you can't really blame Subaru for that. Cadillac NorthStar V8, OMG.
Now, deliberately pointing one generation of their advertising at A Certain Demographic -- they'll never live that down. But it wasn't their engineers.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 19, 2013 12:19 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: ace at December 19, 2013 12:21 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: ace at December 19, 2013 12:22 PM (/FnUH)
We were a tougher nation with a sense of humor then.
I am not calling out any policy just saying we are weaker for the hypersensitivity, but your place your rules Ace.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 12:33 PM (9jfyN)
Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 19, 2013 12:41 PM (2iHnw)
Posted by: American_Spirit at December 19, 2013 12:41 PM (23gmE)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 19, 2013 12:59 PM (G6U3l)
Mary love, don't you have vaginal knitting to get to.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 01:11 PM (9jfyN)
Obama advertising his programs is like you paying highter electric bills so that the electric company can tell you how wonderful they are. What choice have you got? Obama is a thief, and he has spent hundres of million of your dollars telling you how wonderful he is. Jessie James does NOT need advertising!
Posted by: burt at December 19, 2013 01:59 PM (1+kJ5)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at December 19, 2013 02:15 PM (sKsAS)
Posted by: stickety at December 19, 2013 02:57 PM (+Vm+w)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at December 19, 2013 03:13 PM (VAche)
Posted by: ace at December 19, 2013 04:22 PM (/FnUH)
hmmm. Normally the regular crew here is a bit, er, vociferous (I said I'd used that word in a sentence this week. Check!). But I'm furrowed brow and smell a rat here.
Something ain't right.
Posted by: tangonine at December 22, 2013 06:48 PM (x3YFz)
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