1 Are you going to apply a similar analysis to TFG later?

2 hated it.

3

>>What the hell I am yammering about now?

 

Assult yams.

4 So wait, reading again, are deleted scenes kind of like deleted double posts?

5 I like the missing scene at the end of Titanic where they drag Jack onto the deck of the Carpathia and revive him with a blow dryer.

6 Man iF you get a chancE to reply to that Republican pole here today , let em have your tRUE FEELINGS MISSES LINCOLN Re: The Play in Politics

7 Still, while I (and most other people) would have that bias, there's usually a real pointlessness to deleted scenes. They seem so obviously misconceived it's surprising that anyone, especially solid professionals, spent a few hundred thousand or even a million to film them.

On the other hand, watching the deleted scenes from Spinal Tap is like having a second movie that is just as good as the first.

8 Some deleted scenes are expendable and are removed to shorten the movie.  Others "don't belong".  Most movies have alternate scenes/endings that we never see.

9 @ 8 some times I feel that away about political term limits..

10 Man iF you get a chancE to reply to that Republican pole here today , let em have your tRUE FEELINGS MISSES LINCOLN Re: The Play in Politics

???

11 I got rid of a really cool Beretta OU after college.
Can I undelete it?
How about my first wife.  Can I disable undeleting just to be sure.
There are a few scenes in the 'life of trainer' that I would love to delete.

12 Star Wars VI was better off without the scene where Darth Vader tells Luke about how he dorked Natalie Portman on the shore of Lake Naboo.

13 What was that Reese Witherspoon movie about   an    Alabama divorcee?  Watched the deleted scenes, and it was a completely different movie.

14 "On the other hand, watching the deleted scenes from Spinal Tap is like having a second movie that is just as good as the first." Spinal Tap has deleted scenes??? Off to youtube.

15 Anyone know anything about hawks?

The BAE Systems Hawk is a British single-engine, advanced jet trainer aircraft. It first flew in 1974 as the Hawker Siddeley Hawk, and subsequently produced by its successor companies, British Aerospace and BAE Systems, respectively. It has been used in a training capacity and as a low-cost combat aircraft.

You may now continue.

16 i finally watched the whole movie a couple of years ago....i would always get creeped out when he went into the room and the lady was taking a bath and turned into an old hag....couldn't get past that part..

17 hey, fuck you.

Without deleted scenes, how  the hell could I sell you nerds the same shit over and over and over again?

18 Hello, Danny. 

19 You tell 'em, Peter.

20 Has anyone else seen the original(?) cut of Gibson's "Payback" on Netflix instant?  It's a whole other movie and it sucks. 

It's like the filmed and cut it, watched it, and said, "This sucks.  Let's reshoot and add 20 minutes of good footage and a new ending."  Normally Hollywood just releases the crap movie and calls it a day.

21 I, for one, am eagerly awaiting ace's post on falconry

22

"Anyone know anything about hawks?"

 

I know a little about hawks, Ace.

 

Unlike Eagles...Hawks don't like to eat something that they don't kill themselves.

 

Hawks are very smart...and very patient.

They love overcast days, when their oncoming shadow does not reveal their approach to their prey.

 

 

23 Plantation scene in Apocalypse Now. Hell, all the material in the Redux.

24

Anyone know anything about hawks?

---

A  hawk  made  a  massive  nest  in  woods  behind  BF's  house.  She  came  back  the  next  year  to  raise  another  brood.  The  third  year  a  Great  Horned  Owl  took  over  the nest  and  the  hawk  had  to  find  other  lodging.

25 A good editor can make entire scenes unnecessary by showing you what they want to get across rather than outright stating it. If you've got a crappy editor and/or studio interference, you occasionally end up with scenes that serve little purpose or detract from the film. I see Dark City as a big example of the studio fucking up the film. The studio dictated that there had to be an intro by The Doctor (Kiefer Sutherland) and insisted that certain parts of the story be established at the beginning. The result was that you have a movie where you are about 45 minutes ahead of everyone in it and are waiting for them to catch up. The director's cut of that film is one of the true examples I can think of where it is both a completely different film and a definite improvement on the theatrical product.

26 All horror movies should end with one of those things that go up.

27
Redrum. 

28 17 hey, fuck you.

Without deleted scenes, how the hell could I sell you nerds the same shit over and over and over again?

Posted by: Peter Jackson at January 24, 2013 02:33 PM (gCa4h)

I am intriguded by your 9 hour movie about walking and would like to know more.  Is there any way you can turn a 60 minute prequel into 9 hour series of movies as well?

29 I definitely prefer the director's comments on Office Space to the actual movie.  Especially after the 117th viewing.

30 I can tell you there's like half an hour extra footage in each of the Lord of the Rings DVDs I have, but I couldn't tell you what because it now feels to me that it did belong there.

I could give or take Newt's family, but for me the scene whose absence always bothers me is the automated defense bots in the hallway.

31 22 "Anyone know anything about hawks?" I know a little about hawks, Ace. Unlike Eagles...Hawks don't like to eat something that they don't kill themselves. Hawks are very smart...and very patient. They love overcast days, when their oncoming shadow does not reveal their approach to their prey. Posted by: wheatie at January 24, 2013 02:34 PM (fH4X9) ___________________ Wait--don't hawks fit in with Ace's mixed weight couples post? I think the female is bigger than the male.

32 I have never watched The Shining so I don't have a dog in that fight.  However, I have seen some deleted scenes that I thought would have explained actions in the movie better. But overall, what I have seen is that they do it just to shorten the movie to try and keep it around the two-hour mark.

33

Deleting this scene...there's a whisper of misogyny to it.  Implying that a mere woman couldn't overcome such horror.

 

I mean, of course she would.  She was obviously having her period when Jack went crazy....it's probably what mostly drove him crazy!  But once he died and her time of the month past, of course she would get over it.

 

And the audience needs to see that. 

34 23 Plantation scene in Apocalypse Now. Hell, all the material in the Redux. --- That's what happens when you have Francis Ford Coppola doing enough coke to kill a rhino. Redux was an inferior version to the theatrical version to begin with, but that plantation scene in Redux in particular was what TV Tropes would call a "big-lipped alligator moment". It's totally out of place with the rest of the film.

35 Plantation scene in Apocalypse Now. On the other hand, the porking of the bunnies: Gold.

36 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

37 Sheeeit, without deleted scenes, I wouldn't have ever released a single movie.

38 The movie sucked with or without the epilogue. I remember as a kid breaking out in laughter at the first "redrum". Some horror movie.

39 13 What was that Reese Witherspoon movie about an Alabama divorcee? Watched the deleted scenes, and it was a completely different movie. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 24, 2013 02:31 PM (DRgeg) Umm, a lady in the office told me it was "Sweet Home Alabama." Thanks nice lady.

40 Now if I could just find the missing video for the coffee break song from the 1967 film "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying." I know I've seen it once, I can even quote lines from it, but I can't find any tape or disk that includes it.

41 Posted by: Peter Jackson at January 24, 2013 02:33 PM (gCa4h)

Heh. The problem there is, I intentionally didn't get them the first time around because I knew extended versions were coming. Same reason I don't own any Harry Potter flicks.

42 Try this exercise:  "Visualize, boobies."   Go!

43 I could give or take Newt's family, but for me the scene whose absence always bothers me is the automated defense bots in the hallway.

Posted by: Methos at January 24, 2013 02:36 PM (hO9ad)

THIS!  The auto defense pods were cool.  Except that they should have been activated in series, not parallel.

Also, I'm glad they cut the whole Ripley-had-and-lost-a-daughter-so-surprise-Newt-is-a-surrogate-she-can-take-care-of crap.

44 Umm, a lady in the office told me it was "Sweet Home Alabama."

Thanks nice lady.

Posted by: RWC at January 24, 2013 02:37 PM (fWAjv)

--

Yes, that's the one.  They should have released the deleted scenes instead of the movie.

45 I saw the movie when it came out and I thought  there was a bit with Shelley Duval and the kid fishing on a riverbank with Scatman Crothers. Maybe I dreamt that part. Was a sequel made?

46 Anyone know anything about hawks?






Howard?

47

31...Wait--don't hawks fit in with Ace's mixed weight couples post?

 

I think the female is bigger than the male.

 

Heh.

I don't think that holds true for all types of Hawks, though, tasker.

 

 

48 No TV and no beer make Homer something, something.

49

"Halcon" is Spanish for hawk; in French it's "faucon."  That's all I know about hawks.

50 Except that they should have been activated in series, not parallel. They were in series. The first one runs out and the drones make it past, then the second one almost runs out.

51 Spinal Tap has deleted scenes??? Off to youtube.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 24, 2013 02:33 PM (4c71i)

The DVD has about 1/2 a movie of deleted scenes.

52 Yeah, those deleted scenes with Newt's family added nothing to Aliens. As a matter of fact, neither did any of the other deleted scenes.

53 40 Now if I could just find the missing video for the coffee break song from the 1967 film "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying." I know I've seen it once, I can even quote lines from it, but I can't find any tape or disk that includes it. --- Just do yourself a favor and don't try to look up the lost scene from Twilight Zone: The Movie with Vic Morrow. Been there, done that, got horribly disturbed by it because it's a fucking snuff clip.

54 #51 Shark Sandwich. 

55 Anyone know anything about hawks?

Hawks and falcons, despite many similarities, are very different predators. 

One of them (I think Hawks) grab their prey and kill it with their talons and/or beaks.  The other (Falcons, IIRC) instead use the truly epic speed they can build up on a dive and strike their prey with their feet, normally closed like mini-fists.

Other than that, I got nothin'.

56 When King's stories are converted to movies, there seem to be time given to political digs.  Bet he hates that.

57

Spinal Tap has deleted scenes??? Off to youtube.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 24, 2013 02:33 PM (4c71i)

--

One scene alone is about 20 minutes of a Frampton look-a-like replacement for Nigel Tufnel, which is roll-on-the-floor hilarious.

58 They were in series. The first one runs out and the drones make it past, then the second one almost runs out.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 24, 2013 02:40 PM (QupBk)

Nope.  They both fire at the same time - sometimes wastefully at the same target (I presume).  One ends up with rounds remaning.

59 "...what I have seen is that they do it just to shorten the movie to try and keep it around the two-hour mark."

Posted by: Vic at January 24, 2013 02:36 PM (53z96)

Well yes. But then we wouldn't get to hear about the agony of the director when extraordinarily important scenes are cut by bean-counting, anti-art Jews in Hollywood.

60 Which ending was in the theatrical release of I am Legend? The happy one? or the sadish one?

61

I think the issue of deleted scenes is really dependent on the movie.   Especially if the film is based on another work --    especially a book -- then the deleted scenes may contain bits from the book that just couldn't fit   into the runtime of the final film, but which provide some backstory that fans of the original work would be expecting and that newcomers to the subject may find unnecessary but interesting.   "Lord of the Rings" had to have a bunch of deleted scenes just by the very nature of the project; there   was no way you could get the entirety of all three books into three movies, but the fanbase is so devoted that it was almost a requirement that Jackson & Co. film as much of the material as possible and then cut it up in the post-production.   You don't NEED the scene in the Houses of Healing between Eowyn and Faramir in "Return of the King," but for fans of the book   it's important.  

 

Now, for original films that aren't based on another source, or that    draw   only loosely from another source,      then    I think your   theory about the    number of deleted scenes included on the DVD is absolutely true.     When you're writing a free-form script   that doesn't have to pay attention to any   existing   source material then you have the freedom to write what you want, film what you want, and essentially make your movie what you want it to be.   A lot of deleted scenes in that situation means one of two things to me:

 

A)  Instead of cutting out the unnecessary stuff when the story was still in the paper and ink script phase, the story editing got done after the much more expensive    production phase.     That's just sloppy.

 

OR

 

B) The studio saw a rough cut of the film, hated it, and demanded the director cut out whole chunks of the story to    make the movie    into something they preferred.  

62 I read it. It was awful. So trite.

63 Oh, and whille I don't know much about hawks, I know a bit about crows    and parakeets!

64 The extra scenes (like Cameron's from Aliens) are shot because there is a saying in scriptwriting, "If it ain't on the page, it ain't on the stage." So, a good script will show you something rather than tell you; Someone (Ace?) mentioned something like this about Alien Resurrection, movies that have characters running around saying things about what is happening are poorly written. David Mamet agrees: http://movieline.com/2010/03/23/david-mamets-memo-to-the-writers-of-the-unit/ Scenes are cut from bad movies so theaters can have more screenings and sell more tickets to recoup as much production $$ as possible before it has to be pulled.

65 47 31...Wait--don't hawks fit in with Ace's mixed weight couples post? I think the female is bigger than the male. Heh. I don't think that holds true for all types of Hawks, though, tasker. Posted by: wheatie at January 24, 2013 02:39 PM (fH4X9) ___________________ Dang it. I don't remember which bird I read that about. Maybe--falcons.

66 Just curious ace, if you were to have a script green lit what would be your preference? I would guess romantic comedy.

67 60 Which ending was in the theatrical release of I am Legend? The happy one? or the sadish one? --- The "happy" one where things go all 'splodey, IIRC.

68 Wait--don't hawks fit in with Ace's mixed weight couples post? I think the female is bigger than the male. Yes. Usually by about a third. IIRC.

69 Which ending was in the theatrical release of I am Legend? The happy one? or the sadish one?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 24, 2013 02:42 PM (QupBk)

The one I saw on DVD was the "sad" one and I didn't like it.  I hate bad ending movies.  I get enough of that in real life.  Like last November.

70

The other (Falcons, IIRC) instead use the truly epic speed they can build up on a dive and strike their prey with their feet, normally closed like mini-fists

 

For some reason I'm picturing AtC after a rant, then spotting Piers Morgan.

71 I watch a lot of deleted scenes when I watch DVD's and they almost all are completely unnecessary, often in a "Why would you even think you should film this?" way. But I think that's partly just because I already know the way the movie is "supposed to go" so I'm biased against these Scenes Which Don't Belong. Still, while I (and most other people) would have that bias, there's usually a real pointlessness to deleted scenes. They seem so obviously misconceived it's surprising that anyone, especially solid professionals, spent a few hundred thousand or even a million to film them.

I tend to think the opposite unless the deleted scene detracts from the story.  I don't mind watching the extra stuff that gets cut out if it just adds a little more backstory or exposition.  If it's a movie I really like, I want to watch every bit of filming done on it no matter what.

72

Editing is what makes a movie.  It's always better to have too much film to choose from than too little.

 

The Godfather is the best example of a perfectly edited film.  Every scene is necessary.  Every scene contributes to story. 

73 Nope. They both fire at the same time - sometimes wastefully at the same target (I presume). Not the way I remember it but hell, they didn't even show the scenes in the corridor in the theatrical release (just the controller counting down) so we could have seen different versions.

74 Off prey-sock.

75 I always thought they should have kept that deleted scene at the end of Gone With The Wind wherein Rhett goes to Belle Watling's.

76 You want deleted scenes?

I got some deleted scenes for you....

77 Same reason I don't own any Harry Potter flicks.

Posted by: Methos at January 24, 2013 02:38 PM (hO9ad)

Doesn't matter. Any reason is good enough.

78 Are we talking regular hawks or assault hawks here Ace?

79

24...A hawk made a massive nest in woods behind BF's house. She came back the next year to raise another brood. The third year a Great Horned Owl took over the nest and the hawk had to find other lodging.

 

--------

 

Just having a Great Horned Owl in the area...is a threat to Hawks.

Owls hunt at night.

They will attack the nest of a Hawk, or an Eagle, and feed their young to their own babies.

 

80 After seeing the recent Footloose remake, I think that entire movie should have been put in the deleted scenes section of the DVD

81 Come and play with us. 

82 I quit watching horror films when I realized I'm living one in Obama's America.

83 African or European Hawks?

84 6

On the other hand, watching the deleted scenes from Spinal Tap is like having a second movie that is just as good as the first.

Posted by: wiserbud at January 24, 2013 02:28 PM (gCa4h)

One of my eventual side-projects is to seamlessly integrate the deleted scenes back into the movie.  My Criterion edition has the deleted scenes in letterbox...

85 What I don't like is trailers for a movie that have scenes that are not in the theathrical release.

That's false advertising, IMO.

86 Ace should have been able to cobble together five words about hawks by now.

87

Just having a Great Horned Owl in the area...is a threat to Hawks.
Owls hunt at night.

 

There's no love   lost between owls and crows, either,   for the same reason.    If you want to keep crows off your   property, forget the scarecrow and get a   fake owl

88 Are you all talking about Hudson Hawk?  That had deleted scenes.

89 82 I quit watching horror films when I realized I'm living one in Obama's America. --- Make an exception and watch Cabin In The Woods.

90 I could give or take Newt's family, but for me the scene whose absence always bothers me is the automated defense bots in the hallway.


That was a great scene, but I think Cameron took it out because the audience would start thinking that most of the alien menace was killed and that there would be less tension.  How many aliens were killed in those hallways?  Hundreds?  Without that scene, you don't know how many of them are crawling in the ceiling panels toward the main characters and it's a lot more scary.

91 Editing is what makes a movie. It's always better to have too much film to choose from than too little.

The Godfather is the best example of a perfectly edited film. Every scene is necessary. Every scene contributes to story.

Posted by: jwest at January 24, 2013 02:44 PM (ZDsRL)

I have all three Godfather Director's cut movies on Blu-Ray.  Some of the deleted stuff was restored and I can tell you, I n II or great, III sucks but all versions of III suck.

92 there are some very fine USAF Fighter squadrons that have a hawk as their emblem

93 >>>Ace should have been able to cobble together five words about hawks by now. more like 12,000!!! I'll have the post up in four hours.

94 It's Bush's fault! The jooozz made you do it!

95 I totally agreed with deleting footage of that guy driving over to his girlfriend's house in Butt Bangers 5. For artistic reasons, you know.

96

OT 4 toddies and I still feel like crap, can't  breath, body hurts, coughin like an idiot and can't sleep.  Anyone wanna make me a sammich?

 

I need a kitteh.

OK, I'll quit bitchen.

97 You know, the book, "The Shining, had a happy ending like that.  I read it years ago and threw the book across the room when Danny and his Mom and the black guy that gets chopped in half in the movie but survives unscathed in the book, all sit around and have a good laugh at the end.

98 All work and no golf vacations make Barry a dull boy.  All work and no golf vacations make Barry a dull boy. All work and no golf vacations make Barry a dull boy. All work and no golf vacations make Barry a dull boy. All work and no golf vacations make Barry a dull boy. 

99 I have hawks in my back yard ( lots of trees )


They're very quite, except when they choose to be loud.  They like to snatch up moles or mice, swoop up to a branch, then tear their catch to shreds and eat it


I imagine the moles or mice as liberals, and smile

100 Funny thing is most human couples are "mixed-weight" but the sexual dymorphism of homo-sapiens is so natural to us we don't see it. If we saw humans the way we see other species we'd think -- man, the males are *way* bigger than the females. I'm 180 and most of my girlfriends have been 120-130. I'm 50% bigger. And usually half a foot taller. And given that men -- even the lazy ones -- have less body fat and greater muscle mass -- we are more than 50% stronger than women.

101 In my new film, Zombies take over the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court.  And no one notices. 

102 B) The studio saw a rough cut of the film, hated it, and demanded the director cut out whole chunks of the story to make the movie into something they preferred.

When they showed the original cut of Vacation to audiences, it bombed.

They had to pull the cast back and film an entirely new ending, which was interesting, as Anthony Michael Hall had shot up 6 to 8 inches since the original filming ended.

103 QUIET


sh*t

104 My favorite screenwriting guru, John Truby, says that screenwriting is harder than brain surgery. The Pixar guys have said that all their movies have started out as the worst movie ever made. But they are wise in that they put the story first and keep working out the kinks until it is absolutely right.

105 How many aliens were killed in those hallways? Hundreds? Exactly. There was a finite number of drones possible, the colonists plus the Marines. The fact that Ripley is able to walk around the nest, pretty much unmolested, tells you that most of the beasts were acid spray by the end.

106 Just curious ace, if you were to have a script green lit what would be your preference? I would guess romantic comedy. Worf & JEF locked in a love cabana in Hawaii?

107 85 What I don't like is trailers for a movie that have scenes that are not in the theathrical release.

That's false advertising, IMO.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 24, 2013 02:46 PM (X/+QT)

Ah, yes.  Like "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels."

108 94 >>>Ace should have been able to cobble together five words about hawks by now. more like 12,000!!! I'll have the post up in four hours. Posted by: ace at January 24, 2013 02:47 PM (LCRYB) ___________ Let's see..a couple of days ago you admitted to being good at something...

109 They were in series. The first one runs out and the drones make it past, then the second one almost runs out. Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 24, 2013 02:40 PM (QupBk) A and B were shooting at the same time. Then C and D kicked in when there were depleted.

110 Anyone know anything about hawks?

AJ Hawk sacked his brother-in-law in a Fiesta Bowl.

111 more like 12,000!!! I'll have the post up in four hours.

Posted by: ace

 

*Sighs*

 

Fully automatic assault post.  Typical clinger....nobody needs 12,000 words.

112 #102  I call the movie, "Night of the Living Fed." 

113 And I'm convinced Ace can do a 5,000 word essay on Manti T'eo being fooled by a man doing a dying girl voice for months. And having late night sexy-time calls with a dude pretending to be a chick. it's like a metaphor for Obama ... or something.

114 >>>What I don't like is trailers for a movie that have scenes that are not in the theathrical release. I sort of like when they do that, in one way: Especially if the trailer has jokes, I like having different takes or different jokes in the trailer, because then the joke isn't spoiled in the movie. Although sometimes it does bother me-- why is that line I've now heard 100 times not in the movie? There's a line from the What About Bob? trailer that still bothers me. Bill Murray says "No one's ever hated me enough to kill me before," and Richard Dreyfuss responds, "How do you know?" It's not in the movie. It bothers me. It also bothers me because I can't see where it would even fit (given that in the movie, bob is never aware Dreyfuss actually hates him or wants to kill him; he thinks it's all some type of therapy).

115 In Pizza Man III, showing them actually eating the pizza after the porkening was entirely gratuitous.

116 I'm a foot taller than Mrs Smith ( not an extra foot, for those of you in Marin County ).


other differences?  Well, the dick / vagina thing.......

117 In my new film, Zombies take over the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court. And no one notices.

Do they leave Pelosi alone because they think she's one of them?  Like in Walking Dead when they cover themselves in stank and shuffle around grunting, to blend in.

118 Someone socked Roger Corman upthread, but actually Corman emphasizes the opposite: know exactly what you're going to do before you start filming.

According to him, this is why so many films go over budget.

You can't make the films he does for as little as he does without pre-planning. Corman is really an engineer by trade and abhors waste.

I think Hitchcock had little tolerance for the film's not being tight before shooting either, but I'm not as sure about that as with Corman.

119 111 I was there.

120 In "Clue" they couldn't make up their damn minds, so they released all three endings.


That fascinated my kids

121 96  "I totally agreed with deleting footage of that guy driving over to his girlfriend's house in Butt Bangers 5. For artistic reasons, you know."

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 24, 2013 02:48 PM (BuSM

 

Absolutely.  What was the director thinking in "Backdoor Romance" leaving in that scene buying lube?  Like the audience wouldn't figure out where the lube came from?

122 "Night of the Living Fed." Nice.

123 the theory being that if you've got a bad product at least don't keep the audience for too long.

Yep, when a modern era movie starts dipping in to the low 80min run time range, that's a solid indicator its probably gonna suck pretty bad.

124

And given that men -- even the lazy ones -- have less body fat and greater muscle mass -- we are more than 50% stronger than women.

 

Exactly.  Mentally too.  Which is why Republicans questioning Hillary about her responsibility for Benghazi had such a whisper of misogyny to it.

125 Hated "The Shining" movie. Much of the suspense and horror of the book were left out. Having said that, even the book wasn't up to the standards that I expected from King.

126 It's not that unusual for men to be literally 2x the size of the wives. 250 to 130 isn't that uncommon. It's funny. I meet a 5'2 girl and I think we're not far from the same size -- even though i'm a foot taller. Few times I've met a 5'2 guy I can't stop thinking about how damn short he is.

127 111 Anyone know anything about hawks? AJ Hawk sacked his brother-in-law in a Fiesta Bowl. --- AJ Hawk's brother-in-law, Brady Quinn, is used to taking it from behind from big burly men, if the pics from the wedding reception are any indication.

128 #119  They tried eating her--but had to spit it out. 

129 I hate that they deleted the scene in Fantastic Voyage when the crew embiggened while they were still in the body.

130 I totally agreed with deleting footage of that guy driving over to his girlfriend's house in Butt Bangers 5. For artistic reasons, you know. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 24, 2013 02:48 PM (BuSM I disagree, He was listening to Deep Purple, knocking at your backdoor and it would have totally set the scene.

131 They were in series. The first one runs out and the drones make it past, then the second one almost runs out.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 24, 2013 02:40 PM (QupBk)

A and B were shooting at the same time. Then C and D kicked in when there were depleted.


IIRC, there were 4 guns total with 2 guns each covering two different hallways.  A and B guns covered one approach, while C and D guns covered another approach.  The aliens first test one hallway and make it to the welded blast doors that were barricaded.  They couldn't break through that way.  They then attempt to breach another hallway and almost make it with one gun that had only a handful of rounds remaining in it.

132 Are there any definitive explanations for the final tracking shot into the photograph?

133 There's a line from the What About Bob? trailer that still bothers me. Bill Murray says "No one's ever hated me enough to kill me before," and Richard Dreyfuss responds, "How do you know?" _________________ It might have fit after this-- ________________ Dr. Leo Marvin: You understand, don't you? There's no other solution. You won't go away. Bob Wiley: I will. Dr. Leo Marvin: No, you won't. You're just *saying* you will! But then, after I don't kill you, you'll show up again. And you'll do something else to make everyone in my life think you are wonderful and I'm a schmuck. But I'm not a schmuck, Bob, and I'm not going to let you breeze into town and take my family away from me, just because you're crazy enough to be *fun*.

134

Dang it. I don't remember which bird I read that about.

 

Maybe--falcons.

 

Oh, it's true for a lot of Hawks, tasker.

 

Especially for Red Tail Hawks...and Coopers Hawks.

 

But even though the males are smaller, they are fierce hunters...and often attack prey that is bigger than they are.

 

Male Coopers Hawks can carry off a full-grown chicken.

Which is why they're referred to  as  'chicken hawks'.

 

 The larger female Hawks usually remain on the nest, to protect the babies...while the males go out and hunt.

 

135 122 In "Clue" they couldn't make up their damn minds, so they released all three endings. That fascinated my kids --- That was a marketing gimmick, AFAIK. All three endings were plausible and the version you saw would depend on the theater you went to. I still prefer the VHS version which presents all three the best.

136

Apparently his original thinking was that if he doesn't show the audience Newt's family, the audience will not really accept that Newt once had a family.

 

This reminds me of the riff that comes up so often if you listen to Rifftrax, MST3K, or Cinematic Titanic    whenever a character has to travel from one point to another.  Bad movies like to    pad out their screentime with lots of    filler,    and there's nothing more filling than a shitload of walking, driving and parking.     Need to add half an hour to your film?   Then    by Jove,     Audience Member,     you are GOING to watch    Polly Protagonist    walk from the front   door to her car, open the car door, get behind the wheel, close the door, turn the key, pull out of the driveway, and proceed to drive down the road, AND YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE IT.   

 

We don't need to see any of that.   It's enough that she was in one place and now she's somewhere else; clearly she traveled there    somehow.     Provided there's no implication that she broke the laws of space-time to reach her destination -- like, say, leaving her house at sunset and arriving at her destination half an hour away at    high noon, which is not unheard of in really, really bad movies     -- then we don't    need to see the actual travel.     Just like we don't need to see evidence of Newt's family to know she had a family.  She exists, therefore SOMEONE gave birth to her somehow.      You'd have to be a   cynical, hard-hearted bastard to see a     little girl all alone    and    surrounded by murderous aliens    and say,   " How am I supposed to feel any sympathy for her when I don't know anything about her    history?"

137 OT clusterfuckery

http://tinyurl.com/b3gelse

Online insurance exchanges may (read probably) not ready to go on schedule.

138 122 In "Clue" they couldn't make up their damn minds, so they released all three endings.


That fascinated my kids

Posted by: John Smith at January 24, 2013 02:54 PM (Dll6b)

That was marketing genius!  Got people to see the movie multiple times, talk about it, and fits in with the game concept.

139 89 82 I quit watching horror films when I realized I'm living one in Obama's America.

---

Make an exception and watch Cabin In The Woods.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 24, 2013 02:47 PM (e0xKF)

And, "Shaun of the Dead."

140 Hawks?

A dying breed of American.

I figure we'll be extinct within two more elections.

141 OMG, if you want to know how Star Wars 2 could have been even worse, check out "Star Wars 2 Deleted Scenes" on YouTube. Portman giving a political speech in the Senate with the words "Wake up!" I kid you not. Also, it was chaired by Harry Reid -- before he got the lightening hands power.

142 >>> Yep, when a modern era movie starts dipping in to the low 80min run time range, that's a solid indicator its probably gonna suck pretty bad. there was a Duane "The Rock" Johnson movie, the remake of Walking Tall, that was like 70 minutes long. Like a TV episode. The runtime is listed as 86 minutes but that's a lie. I think they padded it with long credits.

143 OT clusterfuckery

http://tinyurl.com/b3gelse

Online insurance exchanges may (read probably) not ready to go on schedule.



If the govt gave out free blowjobs, they would find a way to fuck that up.

144 Online insurance exchanges may (read probably) not ready to go on schedule. --- Know why? Because the assumption by Pelosi et all was "the states will do the heavy lifting." They didn't expect 20+ states to give them the finger.

145 But in all three endings, Communism Was Just A Red Herring.

146 148 But in all three endings, Communism Was Just A Red Herring. --- But Mrs. Peacock was a man?!?

147 I hate how in movies, you can apparently ride a horse at a gallop for hours on end like it was a freakin motorcycle.

148 Posted by: EC at January 24, 2013 02:55 PM (GQ8sn) You're right. Just watched it again on youtube.

149 If the govt gave out free blowjobs, they would find a way to fuck that up. Posted by: EC at January 24, 2013 02:57 PM (GQ8sn) It would prolly be a union job and it takes them forever to finish anything.

150 In Night of the Living Fed, there's a scene where the Supreme Court zombie justices leave the bench and devour the lawyers during their oral arguments.  Audiences screening this sequence have repeatedly stood and cheered. 

151 By 2025 the technological problem of robo-birds will be solved. Flying, flapping silent robo-birds that can fly just like real birds. Land on trees, avoid branches, all that. Nature has a proof of principle that birds can be made cheap. You'll be able to buy a robo-hawk from Amazon for $199 by 2025. Some real privacy/surveillance issues will crop up.

152 there was a Duane "The Rock" Johnson movie, the remake of Walking Tall, that was like 70 minutes long.


I have been wondering about that movie.  Now that I know it is teh suck I will avoid it.

153

<<Anyone know anything about hawks?>>

 

They are really good swimmers.

154

Its just as bad when they edit out too much of a movie.

155 Even ace's reviews about a nonexistent piece of a movie are a bit long.

156
That was a marketing gimmick, AFAIK.

Plus, it was based on a game, which could have a different ending every time you played it.

I thought it worked, despite the fact that it was almost an exact rip-off of Murder by Death

157 The Red-Tail Hawk is the most common in the United States. It's legal, in most states, to possess them for purposes of falconry. Falconry is a hobby for rich people with a lot of time on their hands. It's generally best to hunt with a hawk that hasn't imprinted with you as their parent figure. The imprinting can screw up their training. When hawks molt, it's generally recommended that you save their pinions and tail feathers. If their new feathers get damaged, you can use the old ones, super glue, and some bamboo skewers to fix them.

158 And, "Shaun of the Dead." Hilarious movie.

159 It would prolly be a union job and it takes them forever to finish anything.



There would be fights breaking out at the blow job office.

160 I hate how in movies, you can apparently ride a horse at a gallop for hours on end like it was a freakin motorcycle.

And the fact that people in movies have absolutely no peripheral vision whatsoever.

161

Come to think about it,  Wicker Man would have been better if they would have had an epilogue.

162 A Boy and His Dog with Don Johnson.  Instant classic. 

163 I'd really like to read the deleted paragraphs from this post. But Damned if i'm going to buy the platinum edition AoS membership that'd give me access.

164 One of my favorite riffs from Mystery Science Theater 3000 occurs during "The Starfighters". They're marveling at some scene that probably didn't need to be in the movie and Crow remarks that the "cutting room floor was remarkably clean."

165 They didn't expect 20+ states to give them the finger.

You may be too generous. According to the article:

The Obama administration and 18 states are preparing to establish the insurance markets, a centerpiece of the 2010 law designed to extend coverage to millions of uninsured people

That's 30+ by my count. That's some miserable failure right there.

166 HAWKES!!  THE RIPPONING!

167 Here are some baby hawks, already eating meat and fighting. If they could get some Valu-Rite vodka in them they'd be down with the AoS lifestyle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIEBSvsgpaE

168 One of my favorite riffs from Mystery Science Theater 3000 occurs during "The Starfighters". They're marveling at some scene that probably didn't need to be in the movie and Crow remarks that the "cutting room floor was remarkably clean." Posted by: Hobbitopoly at January 24, 2013 03:02 PM (M7CrI) Those guys were great.

169

OT - On the advise of someone from the moron horde, I had USAA quote insurance. 

 

They came in great on auto and the umbrella policy, but they were pretty high on homeowner.

170 I want the deleted paragraphs, writer's commentary audio track, and CGI previz for this post.

171 166 I'd really like to read the deleted paragraphs from this post. But Damned if i'm going to buy the platinum edition AoS membership that'd give me access. --- Grab it off BitTorrent later for free.

172 Come to think about it, Wicker Man would have been better if they would have had an epilogue.

Wicker Man would have been better if it was an entirely different movie.

Like maybe just Lelee walking around in her panties.

173 Also in Night of the Living Fed, there's a scene where the zombie president summons Hillary Clinton to the Oval Office.  He eats her then dies a horrible zombie death. 

174

LOL, why the talk about knowledge and hawks?  You don't know anything about steel, but wrote a 1,000 word post about it yesterday.

<meant to be good-natured ribbing>

175 Sylvester Stallone and Billy Dee Williams lit up the screen in "Nighthawks."

176 Come to think about it, Wicker Man would have been better if they would have had an epilogue.

Posted by: polynikes at January 24, 2013 03:02 PM (m2CN7)

 

It would add a whole new level of hilarity to the remake,t hat's for sure.

 

"What's that smell?"

"What smell?"

"You don't smell that?     It smells like burning hair    and sizzling flesh."

 

"Oh, that's just    Nicolas Cage burning to death in a big wicker statue."

 

"Oh, is that all?      No wonder    it's got an undertone of     cooked ham."

177 I have been wondering about that movie. Now that I know it is teh suck I will avoid it.

Meh.  It was fun enough.  Shootiness and a very WWE kind of fight at the end.  I wouldn't say no if I found it in the $5.00 bin at Walmart.

178 Accidentally saw Obama on my TV.

He was nominating two minions to something.

The thing is,  he was getting bothered by a fly that kept buzzing around his head. 

1. Why are there flies in the White House?
2. It's January.
3. Beleezebub is the Lord of the Flies.

And now,  back to cleaning closets while you all discuss this.

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180 Male Coopers Hawks can carry off a full-grown chicken. Which is why they're referred to as 'chicken hawks'. ______________ Heh, wheatie I didn't know that. I thought that was a political put down--only. *Le sigh*

181 179 Come to think about it, Wicker Man would have been better if they would have had an epilogue. Posted by: polynikes at January 24, 2013 03:02 PM (m2CN7) It would add a whole new level of hilarity to the remake,t hat's for sure. "What's that smell?" "What smell?" "You don't smell that? It smells like burning hair and sizzling flesh." "Oh, that's just Nicolas Cage burning to death in a big wicker statue." "Oh, is that all? No wonder it's got an undertone of cooked ham." --- This... will be my MECCA~!

182 And the fact that people in movies have absolutely no peripheral vision whatsoever.

Posted by: eleven at January 24, 2013 03:02 PM (KXm42)

 

In Korean dramas,    you get this ^^   turned up to eleventy.  

183 Posted by: yankeefifth at January 24, 2013 03:06 PM (Z9EHQ) That was unnecessary.

184 17 hey, fuck you.

Without deleted scenes, how the hell could I sell you nerds the same shit over and over and over again?

Posted by: Peter Jackson at January 24, 2013 02:33 PM (gCa4h)

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67 hours of LOTR footage and no one ever manages to explain why (3000 years later) Aragorn should be King of Gondor. Jeez that bugs me.

Could you add that is the triple extended edition?

185 They came in great on auto and the umbrella policy, but they were pretty high on homeowner. Posted by: jwest at January 24, 2013 03:03 PM (ZDsRL) whenever you can you should go with them. I have heard only good things about their response following sandy.

186 >>>Anyone know anything about hawks?

Dude, you seem a little....scattered....of late.

187 That took some effort.

188

Can we make yankeefifth take a turn in the barrel if the wall-o-text is deliberate?

 

Decisions, decisions...

189 If I think more than five words about hawks, then I'm probably going to write a post about hawks.

Anyone know anything about hawks?

 

Ace, Do.Not.Look.Out.The.Window.

190 67 hours of LOTR footage and no one ever manages to explain why (3000 years later) Aragorn should be King of Gondor. Jeez that bugs me. Could you add that is the triple extended edition? --- Because... the stewards of Gondor flamed out?

191 Imagine a robo-hawk or robo-falcon that can fly around the neighborhood, beaming it's eye cam back to your iphone. It can perch on roofs and trees. And when it comes back it can land on your arm. Every 12 year old boy will want one. They'll come with built-in laser tag lasers in the eye so you can have dogfights with your friends.

192 Posted by: yankeefifth at January 24, 2013 03:06 PM (Z9EHQ)

Grounds Keeper Willy: "Ye have t'a shinnin' boy!"
Bart: "Don't you mean, 'the Shinning?'"
GKW: "Do'ye want t'get SUED boy!?"

193
O/T

.... Today is my and Mrs Fixers Anniversary.  27 years.  Thank gawd I "just" remembered.

194 That was unnecessary. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 24, 2013 03:07 PM (l86i3) apologies, one too many copy and paste

195 I think Prometheus could have left everything in and it still would have made no sense. BTW the ending to Modern Family last night was fantastic.

196 Posted by: yankeefifth at January 24, 2013 03:06 PM (Z9EHQ)

I would congratulate your commitment to the gag, if I didn't know about cut and paste.

197 Sylvester Stallone and Billy Dee Williams lit up the screen in "Nighthawks."

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's

 

Mr Stallone paid his half sister a 2 million dollar lump sum, plus 16,000 a month for medical and psychiatric help and a yearly income for "physical and emotion abuse" she claims she suffered at his hands when she was a teen.  She later became a drug addict and prostitute. hmmmmm

198

Anyone know anything about hawks?

---

They ain't never gonna win the super bowl

199 Can we make yankeefifth take a turn in the barrel if the wall-o-text is deliberate?

Posted by: MWR

Make him wear the barrel.

200

Can we make yankeefifth take a turn in the barrel if the wall-o-text is deliberate?

Decisions, decisions...

 

Perhaps those who hashtag fail take a turn inside yankeefifth?

201 182 YankeeFifth,

Yes, now if only your job were say fapping instead of typing...at least YOU would be excited...

heh

202 197 I think Prometheus could have left everything in and it still would have made no sense. BTW the ending to Modern Family last night was fantastic. Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 24, 2013 03:09 PM (NzBQO) ____________________ Okay I have to eject. DVRed it--watching it tonight. Go ahead and talk amongst yourselves about it.

203 I would congratulate your commitment to the gag, if I didn't know about cut and paste. Posted by: Methos at January with my typing skills it would have taken a week for me to type that.

204 Can we make yankeefifth take a turn in the barrel if the wall-o-text is deliberate?

And then he has to clean it.

205 Hawks are RACIST. bcos, ya know, their usually Republicans. That's all I know about hawks. Yours truly, some lib

206 Make him wear the barrel.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 24, 2013 03:10 PM (xz0nG)

 

lol!   I LIKE    it!

207 I guess the scene in The Birds where Tippi Hedren just   simply  walks  out  through  the  door to escape the room full of   attacking  blackbirds was deleted.

208 If I think more than five words about hawks, then I'm probably going to write a post about hawks. Anyone know anything about hawks? If we get a review of "Hudson Hawk" out of this...

209 67 hours of LOTR footage and no one ever manages to explain why (3000 years later) Aragorn should be King of Gondor. Jeez that bugs me.
Could you add that is the triple extended edition?

The rules regarding heridatary rule get kind of funny when one is descended from immortals (Elrond's father, I think, was Aragorn's *many greats* grandfather).

210 187)  Because Aragorn promised everyone a free phone... whenever they were eventually invented in the future.

Duh, how does anyone get to be king? 

211 "67 hours of LOTR footage and no one ever manages to explain why (3000 years later) Aragorn should be King of Gondor. Jeez that bugs me.
Could you add that is the triple extended edition?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90"

"He was Aragorn son of Arathorn, the nine and thirtieth heir in the right line from Isildur, and yet more like Elendil than any before him."
    — Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age, The Silmarillion

Yeah, what he said.

212 (CNSNews.com) - Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday will celebrate the launch of a newly rebranded organization called the “100,000 Strong Foundation,” which aims to have 100,000 American students studying in China by 2014. ------------- Maybe these 100,000 kids can learn what capitalism is while they are over there. Bring some of that knowledge back here, ya know.

213 213 187) Because Aragorn promised everyone a free phone... whenever they were eventually invented in the future. Duh, how does anyone get to be king? --- There's no Gap in Rohan! There's not even a mall there!!!

214 The rules regarding heridatary rule get kind of funny when one is descended from immortals (Elrond's father, I think, was Aragorn's *many greats* grandfather).

Also, he was last in the line of the Kings of Gondor.  He could have been king 60 years (or more) before the LotR books take place, but he was too busy whining and feeling sorry for himself.

215 The scenes in   The Towering Inferno that actually had smoke in them,  along with the flames,  were deleted.

216

I know nothing of hawks.

Perhaps we should have a discussion of longbows vs. crossbows instead?

217

I'd actually love it if the rifftrax guys would riff Prometheus, since it would give me reason to watch it    so I'd know what the hell everyone was talking   about when they talk about black goo. 

 

Does anyone else do that, btw?     Watch certain movies only because there's a Rifftrak available (or similar comedic    voiceover)?      I would have never watched "The Happening" without Rifftrax.     I'd probably live a much longer, happier life if I'd never watched it at all, but at least the Rifftrak    made it bearable.

Seriously.   I have never watched a big budget movie with worse acting in my entire life, OMG.   And yes,    I'm including every single entry in Lindsay Lohan's filmography in that assessment.

218 >>> I hate how in movies, you can apparently ride a horse at a gallop for hours on end like it was a freakin motorcycle.

Or like it was a whore who don't know what she's doing.

219 1. Why are there flies in the White House?
2. It's January.

1. Flies like shit.
2. He keeps the thermostat on 80.

220 The severest cuts to The Shining came when Kubrick opened the film beyond North America.  He may have cut the ending out for the North American version, but he then cut an additional 24 minutes from the film for Europe and other locales.  The final cut of the Shining in most countries is under two hours.

221 The entire part of Debbie Does Dallas where she actually "does Dallas" was deleted.

222 Perhaps we should have a discussion of longbows vs. crossbows instead?

That one's old.

Trebuchet vs. cannon.

223

 This is an example of how feisty Cooper's Hawks are....

 

Cooper's Hawk attacking a plastic statue of a Great Horned Owl.

....And he looks pissed.

 

http:/ /youtu.be/k0aRlPCLp70

224 Elrond's father, I think, was Aragorn's *many greats* grandfather His brother actually, but yeah, that.

225 In the closing scene of Night of the Living Fed, a zombie Monica Lewinski arrives at the Oval Office with a pizza (extrra cheese and sausage).  She then devours Bill-swallows everything-gets his splatter all over her blue dress and then dies a horrible zombie death.  Enough to make any grown man cry. 

226 Trebuchet vs. cannon.

I can't build a cannon in my garage.

227 Ethan Hawke blows.  Training Day--WTF? 

228 One of the things I think is critical to the idea of deleted scenes is a critical part of the movie making art; it is the fact that words convey ideas significantly differently than pictures and dialogue. And while it is the craft of the movie maker to look at words and *imagine* the way that pictures and dialogue will convey a different meaning than the words on featureless paper, they sometimes fall short and more or less is said in the film than what the filmmaker imagined.

If Aliens were a novel, and you read the team coming across a 1 random little girl who had evaded the aliens somehow when everyone else had died; would you not secretly suspect the writer might be putting a doppleganger into the mix? It is common enough a plot device. To accept her fully would you not need her humanized with flashbacks of times past, and inward dialogues? Well when we see Newt on screen she IS a little girl with no flaws, acting like a little girl, looking like a little girl, we feel she is a little girl. All of this can't be known until we SEE Newt be that little girl.

Maybe the theory of bad movies and deleted scenes is the filmmaker cannot well envision how film tells a story and so makes a bad film of what could potentially be a good story, if only given to a filmmaker who knew how to tell it.

229 I can't build a cannon in my garage.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at January 24, 2013 03:17 PM (ZKzrr)

 

Well, you COULD.  You'd just need to turn your garage into a    forge.   I see how that would be problematic, though.

230 Aragorn actually has a minor goddess in his lineage.

231 "They didn't expect 20+ states to give them the finger" Giving them the finger on Obamacare and Gun Control. It's almost like an effective secession. I like it.

232 I can't build a cannon in my garage.

If the A-Team could do it, why can't you?

More honestly- yes, actually you can.  Any hardware store should have enough metal pipe and enough wire that you could at least make a fairly small-bore cannon.

Getting ammunition may be more difficult, but you could build the cannon itself.

233 /nerd off

234 Oh, and Anchorman had so many outtakes and abandoned subplots, they literally used them to make a second movie. A 93 minute movie. http://tinyurl.com/ctycmo

235 /nerd off

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 24, 2013 03:19 PM (QupBk)

 

 

Aww, but you're so cute when you're nerdy, toby!

236 /nerd off
 Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 24, 2013 03:19 PM (QupBk)

Liar.

237 234 burn the witch,

Just wait until the impact of spiking coal starts to be felt...

I think Giggles may break the union effectively.

238 Rifftrax Hunger Games or Twilight on youtube its all good

239 re: "I think Hitchcock had little tolerance for the film's not being tight before shooting either, but I'm not as sure about that as with Corman."

He didn't knowingly overshoot, but he always cut out stuff. Often not enough stuff. Most of his movies have one too many scenes in them. The therapeutic dingleberry hanging off Psycho, the letter-voiceover scene in Vertigo...infuriating fuckups.

Corman's rule sounds good, but why do I give a shit if a studio wastes their money? I'm not a producer. Fuck them. Heaven's Gate is a great movie. I don't care if a bunch of assholes lost their asshole money betting on it. They'd have spent it on whores!

(Since you're a commie now, Ace, maybe you can join me in being pissed at how the movie audience is made to confuse studios' interest in profit with their own interest in quality entertainment. People criticize movies they haven't even seen by calling them bombs. That's fucked up.)

240 235 Allen G,

You could probably make a fairly effective 20mm nuzzle loader ammo and all....

241 Posted by: sven10077 at January 24, 2013 03:21 PM (LRFds)

I'm not going to ask for plans.
I'm not going to ask for plans.
I'm not going to ask for plans.
I'm not going to ask for plans...

242 I think Prometheus could have left everything in and it still would have made no sense. BTW the ending to Modern Family last night was fantastic.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 24, 2013 03:09 PM (NzBQO

 

Its run in sitcom is better in my opinion.  The Neighbors is my new best sitcom. 

243 >>>You could probably make a fairly effective 20mm nuzzle loader ammo and all....

I'm going to need more than 20mm if that's how we are going to load it.

244 244 Allen G,

ok...

sorry

245 246 MtM,

Heh maybe....

then again....

it'd be an interesting experiment to see how effectively one could compact and seal a muzzle loader and what FPS you could get with a well formed round.

246

As evidenced by yesterday's Benghazi hearings, apparently there are no hawks left.  Sad, but true.

247

Corman's rule sounds good, but why do I give a shit if a studio wastes their money? I'm not a producer. Fuck them. Heaven's Gate is a great movie. I don't care if a bunch of assholes lost their asshole money betting on it. They'd have spent it on whores!

 

I think Corman's rule is a good one for filmmaker's to keep in mind, though, especially new filmmakers.     When what you want to do is make movies,    and you need someone to finance them, you need to keep the cost down.   You don't ahve to make crap movies, either; you just have to make sure the story is tight as a drum and doesn't have any dead spots.   Once you've built up enough cred you can start   being a little looser about what you create, and the financial backers will give you some more leeway.  

248 The other cool potential home engineering project would be a minimally expensive drone that had a claymore design engineered to ablate the recoil lateral to the carrier....

I often wondered why the US IFV/CAV Bradley force did not have ablative claymores mounted on the side in case of human wave attacks....

249 There are always exceptions to the statement that deleted scenes were correct in being deleted.

My entry for this discussion is the scene I liked best from the movie "High Fidelity." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5ziBCarxEk

It only appeared on the DVD, and it caused Beverley D'Angelo not to have a credit for the movie. But her scene and her delivery in it was deadly cold.

250 249 foghorn leghorn,

Nah that is just our new aristocracy taking care of their own....

Part of why I want an Art V and divorce or reversion to articles of confederacy is that they simply have too much control of our money.

251 226 This is an example of how feisty Cooper's Hawks are.... Cooper's Hawk attacking a plastic statue of a Great Horned Owl. ....And he looks pissed. http:/ /youtu.be/k0aRlPCLp70 Posted by: wheatie at January 24, 2013 03:16 PM (fH4X9) ---- Coopers hawks and Sharp-Shinned hawks will also open up bird feeders (unless they contain sunflower seeds). I thought I had a squirrel problem for a while until I finally caught a Coopers Hawk repeatedly cracking open the clear plastic on different bird feeders. I took pictures of what I thought was a Coopers hawk breaking a bird feeder, only to have a bird vet tell me I had pictures of Coopers and sharp-shinned hawks (not to be confused with pointy elbowed hawks).

252

There is a deleted scene from "Star Wars" with Luke and Roy shooting the swamp rats on Tatooine, and on the way home, Luke looks up to see the Federation ship shooting Leia's and thd made a comment.

I always thought when he was making the first three prelouge movies, he could tie it all together to that as the very last scene in Episode III. But i am not near as smart as George Lucas.

253 Hawks are badass. They make an impression here when they swoop in, grab a bird and splatter blood on the patio door. It's like CSI with feathers.

254 Aaiiieee, silly sock...

255 I think Prometheus could have left everything in and it still would have made no sense.

I bootlegged it off TPB.  It was a waste of a perfectly good DVD burning it.  Had I paid hard money in a theater, I'd have walked out after 45 minutes and demanded my money back.  Apollo 18 sucks just as bad too, don't even bother pirating it.

256 Damn, too much caffeine. I'm twitchy today and hit enter too soon. In NJ there are 3 species of hawks that look very similar Coopers hawks, sharp-shinned hawks and Merlins. That doesn't take the differences in plumage between juvenile and adult into account. I'm not that avid a bird watcher, I borrowed a 500mm lens to take pictures of what I thought was just one Coopers hawk opening up a bird feeder in my yard. I found our it was 2 types of hawks (coopers and sharp-shinned) at the feeder plus another type called a Merlin in the general area.

257 Speaking of hawks, I opened the garage door and our cat came running in.  I stepped out for a smoke a caught a hawk circling about 50 feet above.

After seeing all the carnage the cat has wrought on the local birds, I told my wife that I would bust a gut laughing if she got carried away by a bird of prey.  Cosmic justice.

258 What, no mention of the unbearably cute video from the ONT? http://youtu.be/4E5vUUtSWT4

I thought I sensed some hostility last night...

259 261 Hollowpoint,

the healthy asian lass?

260 old and busted: longbows
the new hawtness: hawks!

261 261 Hollowpoint,

the healthy asian lass?

Thinner than her.

262 Oops, meant to post that in the "cute" thread above

263 "58 They were in series. The first one runs out and the drones make it past, then the second one almost runs out.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 24, 2013 02:40 PM (QupBk)

Nope. They both fire at the same time - sometimes wastefully at the same target (I presume). One ends up with rounds remaning."

I was going to say that the whole concept of an unmanned gun that can only operated for 2 minutes before a repair crew has to go out and fix it, is obviously stupid wasteful that no sane authority would have paid to install it.

Then I remembered there's supposed to be a mighty, murderously corrupt Earth Company. 

Cameron's a genius.

264 I would love to see the pie fight seen in dr. Strangelove. I loved the French Plantation scene in Apocalypse Now. It in fact could have been the basis for a whole new film. Other scenes like the extended playboy bunny scene was unnecessary. I also loved the video interview Uma Thurman did of John Travolta in Pulp fiction.

265

Check out 'The Shining Code 2.0' documentary.

Moon landing conspiracists think Kubrick filmed the moonwalks and 'confesses' in The Shining.

Cuckoo

266 Sometimes I feel like the Vice President in "Murder at 1600."

267 "What the hell I am yammering about now? Someone please stop me."

I really wish you would stop.  You don't know what you're talking about.  There is absolutely no correlation between cut scenes and script quality.  There are so many improvised scenes shot and deleted during filming because it costs so much more to reshoot if you're missing some critical logical explanation or "bridge."  So much easier to leave it on the cutting-room floor.

268

In all fairness to Ace, I feel the need to point out a quote from this post that is never going to go away. We will be using it whenever we disagree with Ace and are feeling snarky and petty and childish:

"Look, sorry. But when you're writing all day, any random thought you have more than five words to say about becomes a post."

I apologize in advance. But when I'm having a lousy day and am feeling superior, you can expect me to quote this back at you. And maybe add "asshat" in there or something. I'll be super juvenile about it. And have bad spelling.

 

Hugs and kisses on all your pink parts,

Bobby