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December 14, 2013

The Denver Post Edits Out "Socialist" From Dispatch on Arapahoe Shooter
— Ace

As you know, a classmate described the Arapahoe shooter as "a very opinionated Socialist."

Well that won't do. That won't do at all.

So the Denver Post edits this to say the boy was "very opinionated."

Now they explain the reason for cutting "Socialist" out of his description. You see, the student who described him that way probably didn't even understand (the wonders of) Socialism.

@Whatwesettlefor We decided not to have another student apply a label to the shooter -- a label the student likely didn't even understand ..
— Lee Ann Colacioppo (@LAColacioppo) December 14, 2013

And yet they left in a statement that he was a Keynesian, deep into the article.

@LAColacioppo @Whatwesettlefor But it's ok to talk about his Keynesian ideas? You KNOW he understands one and not the other? @AceofSpadesHQ
— Arthur Kimes (@ComradeArthur) December 14, 2013

Here's how the Denver Post begins its article:

The teenage gunman who entered Arapahoe High School on Friday afternoon and shot two fellow students with a shotgun was outspoken about politics, was a gifted debater and might have been bullied for his beliefs, according to students who knew him.
Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson identified the gunman as Karl Pierson, an 18-year-old student.
"He had very strong beliefs about gun laws and stuff," said junior Abbey Skoda, who was in a class with Pierson during her freshman year. "I also heard he was bullied a lot."

You might imagine -- as the Denver Post would clearly like you to imagine -- that the boy's "very strong beliefs about gun laws and stuff" located him on the right. The average Low Information Voter, after all, would assume a school shooter's views on "gun laws and stuff" were pro-gun.

This is deliberately misleading. He was in fact a bitter opponent of gun rights (ironically, or maybe not so ironically, enough):

Pierson also appears to mock Republicans on another Facebook post, writing "you republicans are so cute" and posting an image that reads: "The Republican Party: Health Care: Let 'em Die, Climate Change: Let 'em Die, Gun Violence: Let 'em Die, Women's Rights: Let 'em Die, More War: Let 'em Die. Is this really the side you want to be on?"

The Denver Post reported that deeper in the article. If it was clear that he was anti-gun rights -- as it is clear -- why leave it vague in the important opening paragraphs of the article?

That makes their deletion of the Socialist descriptor all the more suspicious.

They will imply he's on the right while deliberately editing out facts placing him on the hard left.

Posted by: Ace at 01:32 PM | Comments (278)
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1 Whoa!

Posted by: Ammo Dump at December 14, 2013 01:34 PM (GgPam)

2 work work work

Posted by: winston smith at December 14, 2013 01:34 PM (rn0EN)

3 It's what they do .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 14, 2013 01:34 PM (XWw96)

4 Nothing surprises me about corruption in the mainstream media anymore. Its transformation into a propaganda machine for the Left is complete.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 14, 2013 01:36 PM (2pc1N)

5 Snot-nosed J-school graduates telling you what they think you need to hear.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 14, 2013 01:36 PM (2pc1N)

6 I can't decide which is worse, if they think we're stupid enough to believe that or if they don't.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 14, 2013 01:37 PM (Gk3SS)

7 It's still freaking snowing! Regional radar suggests it's not going to stop any time soon.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at December 14, 2013 01:37 PM (0IhFx)

8 Students said Pierson(Colorado school shooter) held communist views and liked to discuss current events and issues..
http://tinyurl.com/l93uemh

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 14, 2013 01:37 PM (xlX1p)

9 The irony. Not a damn person who has describe-targeted "conservatives" or "tea party" supporters know what they're talking about. In the slightest.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 14, 2013 01:37 PM (IXrOn)

10 The brain wash and mind control will continue until morale improve.

Posted by: Your betters at December 14, 2013 01:38 PM (AWmfW)

11 I'd be pretty offended if I were the student who gave them that quote. I hope she speaks out on being thrown under the bus as stupid for speaking the truth.

Posted by: Filly at December 14, 2013 01:38 PM (Zo+R6)

12 If the facts don't fit the meme, fuck it. You know what to do. Besides, we all know violence like this won't happen if we gut the 2nd amendment. We're expected to believe it's the access to firearms that causes tragedies like this. Political orientation doesn't have anything to do with mass shootings. Unless it can be proved the perp. once voted "R." Oh, and bullying.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 14, 2013 01:40 PM (18r9d)

13 Oh and does that darling little mewling quim realize she just called that kid's teachers incompetent? I mean, if said student doesn't understand what socialism is, isn't that rather the fault of the teachers?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 14, 2013 01:40 PM (Gk3SS)

14 Well, it was either that or refer to him as a "mostly peaceful" disgruntled student.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2013 01:40 PM (gnIRz)

15 Well, bless her heart

Posted by: vapors at December 14, 2013 01:41 PM (/LfPK)

16 We decided not to have another student apply a label to the shooter.
Unless they were to label them as tea party.

Posted by: No Label Mabel at December 14, 2013 01:42 PM (S+wJC)

17 YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

Posted by: Dan Rather at December 14, 2013 01:42 PM (AWmfW)

18 Now had the student labeled the shooter as a "right wing nut job" the quote would have been in the headline.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2013 01:42 PM (hFL/3)

19 Kinda makes me wish I had a subscription to the Denver Post that I could cancel.

Posted by: fluffy at December 14, 2013 01:42 PM (Ua6T/)

20 We can guarantee that if the shooter's friend had described him as a Tea Party person, that would have been the headline.

Posted by: Meremortal takes aim at December 14, 2013 01:43 PM (jTKU5)

21 BTW, (by the retarded rules of the lefty media) why was is ok to ID the attempted Kansas bomber as a soldier in Allah's army? Was it because he was white?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 14, 2013 01:43 PM (18r9d)

22 " Meremortal takes aim" Out of my head!

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2013 01:44 PM (hFL/3)

23 Nice that they absolve him somewhat there. "Of course being a socialist wasn't a motivating factor, he was bullieeeeeeeeeeeed!"

Posted by: Anomander at December 14, 2013 01:44 PM (IWwAa)

24 Is the Denver Post the paper that sued everyone for copyright infringement whenever you linked one of their stories?

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 14, 2013 01:44 PM (xlX1p)

25 Hi Lauren!

Posted by: Meremortal sees Lauren at December 14, 2013 01:44 PM (jTKU5)

26 I love this: "We decided not to have another student apply a label to the shooter" She's talking as if her editing was controlling reality itself, instead of the story about the reality. She's controlling a character in a massive-multiplayer game, and won't let him act outside her script.

Posted by: gp at December 14, 2013 01:44 PM (mk9aG)

27 A car with an Obama '12 bumper sticker holds a greater threat by inestimable factor than any with a Gadsden Flag

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at December 14, 2013 01:44 PM (MhA4j)

28 Teacher disrespected you? Let him die. Student tries to interfere? Let her die.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 14, 2013 01:44 PM (E+uky)

29 I saw the darling little mewling quim open for the,

Yikes - where did that link come from.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 14, 2013 01:44 PM (DL2i+)

30 btw, hahaha @ him being bullied as relevant and a [good] reason for him to be homocidal because Sure As Shit getting SHOT is not nearly as bad as getting 'bullied.' Sticks and stones and bullets may break my bones, but names will simply Destroy Me!!

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2013 01:45 PM (gnIRz)

31 Whole Foods assholes, all of them. I always thought Denver was kind of OK before our daughter and her family moved there over five years ago. We have spent enough time there since, that I now think its a cesspool of leftism. Hickenlooper lives in their neighborhood. This "Post" editing confirms my thinking.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 14, 2013 01:46 PM (uYO4C)

32 Socialism was a local fact, not intended for a national audience.

Posted by: Dan Rather at December 14, 2013 01:46 PM (AWmfW)

And shockingly the broad from the paper is UGLY. Who would've guessed?

Posted by: The Spaniard at December 14, 2013 01:46 PM (i+tu4)

34 "Whole Foods assholes, all of them."

Actually the Whole Foods CEO is a prog turned conservative; the only reason his ass isn't getting boycotted is that he's brilliantly keeping liberals in an abundance of arugula. They won't take action with anything that might negatively impact them directly, you see.

Posted by: Filly at December 14, 2013 01:48 PM (Zo+R6)

35 Nice to see that they at least still consider "Socialist" to be a pejorative label.

Posted by: Jean at December 14, 2013 01:48 PM (4JkHl)

36 At least 3 other students were quoted in their article.

Guess those kids "understood" their own words?

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2013 01:49 PM (5ikDv)

37 Anyone else now doubt that John Hinkley was a leftist that they covered for?

Posted by: ASK21 at December 14, 2013 01:49 PM (hppbQ)

38 What's so great about this is that if they had just kept him ID'ed as a socialist, we'd have noted it and moved on. Now it's A Thing.

Please put these people in charge of my health care some more.

Posted by: Filly at December 14, 2013 01:50 PM (Zo+R6)

39 Who needs facts when you are laying down truth?

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 14, 2013 01:50 PM (E+uky)

40 Been seeing some interesting comments in other places alluding to the idea that if children weren't being repressed from all normal aggressive tendencies to the point of silliness, they wouldn't be as likely to act out in the most violent way possible. Being bullied is nothing new. My comment: I never heard about anything like this happening when I was in school and so was God.

Posted by: Meremortal sees Lauren at December 14, 2013 01:50 PM (jTKU5)

41 Has anyone checked to see if the formerly quoted student's parents turned out to be Republicans and, well, we all know they just lie lie lie lie lie about what socialism means.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 14, 2013 01:50 PM (Gk3SS)

42 " Nice to see that they at least still consider "Socialist" to be a pejorative label." Or just too close to home.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2013 01:50 PM (hFL/3)

43 Reminds me of The Commissar Vanishes -- now you see it, now you don't.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 14, 2013 01:50 PM (h4eud)

44 The Left makes these little monsters.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2013 01:50 PM (ztHwl)

45 Some day someone with actual right wing politics is going to do something and than we will never hear the end of it.

Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2013 01:51 PM (zqvg6)

46 Ace, I assume you understand that the media bases its entire philosophy on the "No True Scotsman" fallacy: If a person does something evil, then by definition he is a right-winger. "No true liberal" could ever commit violence out of malice, therefore all shooters and terrorists are right-wing by definition -- even if they explicitly enunciate left-wing views. The self-professed beliefs (liberal) are trumped by their real-world actions (evil a.k.a. right-wing). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman to understand how the Denver Post (and 99% of other media outlets) think.

Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2013 01:51 PM (+cx5n)

47 I keep television off unless I'm watching something to amuse or entertain me. I never heard term "soldier of Allah" when did they use that one?

Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2013 01:51 PM (z4WKX)

48 36 At least 3 other students were quoted in their article.

Guess those kids "understood" their own words?

Posted by: noone, really at December 14, 2013 05:49 PM (5ikDv)

Well, they were highly conflicted in their opinions about the shooter, it was all over the place: Marxist , Maoist , Leninist or socialist. No clear ideology.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 14, 2013 01:52 PM (AWmfW)

49 40
Been seeing some interesting comments in other places alluding to the idea that if children weren't being repressed from all normal aggressive tendencies to the point of silliness, they wouldn't be as likely to act out in the most violent way possible.

I saw at least one commenter who indicated that all the kids at that school had at least two MANDATORY "tolerance and diversity" classes.

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2013 01:53 PM (5ikDv)

50 8 Students said Pierson(Colorado school shooter) held communist views and liked to discuss current events and issues.. http://tinyurl.com/l93uemh Posted by: Dr Spank at December 14, 2013 05:37 PM (xlX1p) That has been edited out, too.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 14, 2013 01:53 PM (h4eud)

51 He can't be a socialist because lots of people know what that means, but he can be a dedicated Keynesian because WTF is that?

Posted by: huerfano at December 14, 2013 01:53 PM (bAGA/)

52 I still insist one of his motives was to create facts on the ground toward gun control. Terrorism, in short.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 14, 2013 01:55 PM (yVoxE)

53 11 I'd be pretty offended if I were the student who gave them that quote. I hope she speaks out on being thrown under the bus as stupid for speaking the truth. ------- Except we all know damned good and well what the leftists do to any and all who dare make them look bad. The chill wind we were always warned about--which never showed--under Bush, is alive and murderous under The JEF.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 14, 2013 01:55 PM (VjL9S)

54 Misinformation from the MFM? The DEUCE you say!!

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 14, 2013 01:55 PM (r5cEL)

55 52 Quite probably.

Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2013 01:55 PM (zqvg6)

56 44 The Left makes these little monsters.

Yes. The diseased fruit of a poison tree.

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2013 01:55 PM (5ikDv)

57 Keynesian means I get a big allowance, right?

Posted by: Teenager at December 14, 2013 01:56 PM (ztHwl)

58 Fuck this editor in particular.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2013 01:57 PM (7mQyC)

59 Socialism, huh? That's one for the interwebs.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at December 14, 2013 01:57 PM (xq1UY)

60 51 - Bingo.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2013 01:57 PM (7mQyC)

61 I'm surprised they didn't try to work in a bulls-eye target somewhere in the article... Wink wink, Palin,wink wink...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at December 14, 2013 01:58 PM (9+ccr)

62 Oh c'mon; if we give them a shield law everything will be just peachy keen.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 14, 2013 01:58 PM (r5cEL)

63 Keynesian means I get a big allowance, right? It means your little brother gets to destroy all of your expensive toys, and then your parents should spend lots of money replacing them. After this process, youÂ’ll still have your toys and your parents will be even richer than before!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 14, 2013 01:58 PM (CeNUw)

64 52 I still insist one of his motives was to create facts on the ground toward gun control. Terrorism, in short.

"Suicide bombers" for gun control?
Ugh, I hate to think that way.

Because it's probably true.

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2013 01:58 PM (5ikDv)

65 51 He can't be a socialist because lots of people know what that means, but he can be a dedicated Keynesian because WTF is that?

Posted by: huerfano at December 14, 2013 05:53 PM (bAGA/)

white-keynesian?

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 14, 2013 01:58 PM (AWmfW)

66 Ace + Dr, Spank: Here is the full unedited AP article with the communist quote (and not-bullied quote): http://tinyurl.com/mkqwrrq "Students said Pierson held communist views and liked to discuss current events and issues, offering his own solutions. None said Pierson was bullied for his beliefs. "He would speak for himself. He would not be afraid to tell someone how he feels," said Zach Runberg, 18, a fellow senior ..." Wriggle out of THAT one, lefties! Now you don't even have the "he was bullied by conservatives and just snapped" excuse (an emerging meme on the left today as a fall-back position).

Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2013 01:59 PM (+cx5n)

67 So, can we start using the leftist playbook yet? Start contacting each and every advertiser in that birdcage liner and threaten boycott? Or is this Not The Hill To Die On? I'm tired of the democrats being more organized than us. That goes from the bottom up (or top down). You decide of the LIV/FSA is the bottom and the MFM/JEF is the top, or vise versa.

Posted by: shredded chi at December 14, 2013 02:00 PM (OFb3N)

68 I'm betting the other student said he was a "highly opinionated Socialist" because the highly opinionated shooter called himself a Socialist. If only there were some way the Denver Post could clarify that with the person they interviewed.

Posted by: Andy at December 14, 2013 02:01 PM (ZSnCv)

69 Now you don't even have the "he was bullied by conservatives and just snapped" excuse (an emerging meme on the left today as a fall-back position).

Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2013 05:59 PM (+cx5n)

Bullied by conservatives; that's fucking rich considered they're all dumped into a piss pot of lefty indoctrination.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 14, 2013 02:01 PM (r5cEL)

70 This kid was concerned about the Republican 'War on Women'? So concerned that he shot a little girl?

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2013 02:02 PM (ztHwl)

71
white-keynesian?
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at December 14, 2013 05:58 PM (AWmfW)
Show me the birth certificate.

Posted by: Alexis Jones at December 14, 2013 02:03 PM (S+wJC)

72 He can't be a socialist because lots of people know what that means, but he can be a dedicated Keynesian because WTF is that?

The Right is lucky this turd never picked up a book by Hayek or Buckley. The Denver Post would have labeled him a conservative theorist.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 14, 2013 02:03 PM (2pc1N)

73 Keynesia can be lovely this time of year.

Posted by: Toure at December 14, 2013 02:04 PM (ztHwl)

74 Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2013 05:59 PM

Gee, how did that get past the Stylebook?

Posted by: your betters in the Media at December 14, 2013 02:05 PM (bAGA/)

75 So concerned that he shot a little girl?
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2013 06:02 PM (ztHwl)

It's just this war and that lying sonofabitch Johnson.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 14, 2013 02:05 PM (Gk3SS)

76 Related linked on Drudge: lUniversity considers banning Nerf guns used in annual zombies v. humans game since somebody misidentified a Neff gun as a real gun and caused a lock down.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 14, 2013 02:05 PM (UdB+b)

77 What I find interesting is that when something like this happens, trigger happy media blames the right, and then wind up being wrong.

Where as something like this site holds up laying blame until the facts are in.

But hell, they way things are going, ace might as well label any sort of mass shooting as 'Liberal Shooter' before we learn the truth.

So far, he would be right 100%.

Posted by: HH at December 14, 2013 02:06 PM (XXwdv)

78 70 - That's how it works dontcha know.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2013 02:06 PM (7mQyC)

79 Someone say 'Liberal Shooter'?

Posted by: Peter North at December 14, 2013 02:07 PM (ztHwl)

80 The Right is lucky this turd never picked up a book by Hayek or Buckley. The Denver Post would have labeled him a conservative theorist. Fortunately, only budding conservatives are taught to read things they might disagree with.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 14, 2013 02:08 PM (CeNUw)

81 At least the gun confiscation mob has a problem making hay over this shooting. The kid used a Biden... I mean shotgun.

Posted by: Meremortal sees Lauren at December 14, 2013 02:08 PM (jTKU5)

82 76 - That someone must be a paid agent... who mistakes a nerf gun for a real gun?... and to the point of forcing a lockdown. Then again some dipsh1t at the TSA is confiscating 2" plastic 'guns' that fit in the hand of play figures.
No GI-Joes for you!

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2013 02:09 PM (7mQyC)

83 It's almost like they're c*cksucking b*stards who will say and do anything to keep their hands on the levers of power to subjugate us all.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 14, 2013 02:10 PM (4/o9U)

84 76 Related linked on Drudge: lUniversity considers banning Nerf guns used in annual zombies v. humans game since somebody misidentified a Neff gun as a real gun and caused a lock down. Posted by: WalrusRex at December 14, 2013 06:05 PM (UdB+b) People are stupid.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2013 02:10 PM (UAMVq)

85 81 - Strangely enough the only place I've even heard about the shooting was on blogs.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2013 02:10 PM (7mQyC)

86 "52 I still insist one of his motives was to create facts on the ground toward gun control. Terrorism, in short." Makes a lot of sense. "You won't listen to my reasoned debates about the need for gun control, I'll fucking show you why you need gun control!"

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2013 02:10 PM (hFL/3)

87 83 - What's this "almost" thing.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2013 02:11 PM (7mQyC)

88 83 It's almost like they're c*cksucking b*stards who will say and do anything to keep their hands on the levers of power to subjugate us all. Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 14, 2013 06:10 PM (4/o9U) It is, isn't it? Uncanny.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2013 02:11 PM (UAMVq)

89 I have to say. Being it says he was bullied for his beliefs, it does illuminate a small flicker of hope for the future.

Posted by: Driver at December 14, 2013 02:12 PM (jrpuQ)

90 They'd be calling him a Tea Partier anyway if only he weren't still alive.

Posted by: --- at December 14, 2013 02:12 PM (MMC8r)

91 89 - Yet the AP says he wasn't bullied for his beliefs so maybe not so much on that hope for the future stuff.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2013 02:13 PM (7mQyC)

92 Related linked on Drudge: lUniversity considers banning Nerf guns used in annual zombies v. humans game since somebody misidentified a Neff gun as a real gun and caused a lock down.
Posted by: WalrusRex at December 14, 2013 06:05 PM (UdB+b)

People are stupid.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2013 06:10 PM (UAMVq)

Assuming that 'misidentified' is the correct term. I'd like to know the identity of the person who made the report and their political views before I assume this wasn't some bitter excluded liberal trying to ruin other people's fun.

Posted by: Methos at December 14, 2013 02:14 PM (hO9ad)

93 90 - Most likely.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2013 02:14 PM (7mQyC)

94 At least the media is no longer even trying to appear unbiased. They were more dangerous being subtle.

Posted by: Icedog at December 14, 2013 02:14 PM (uZ6Ul)

95 Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2013 05:51 PM (+cx5n) Great post, zombie, and I want to say I've appreciated your recent increased frequency of posts of late.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 14, 2013 02:15 PM (xSegX)

96 "Conservatives" are always the evil ones according to the media. The old communists in the politburo who clung to power until the end were "conservative", as are the mullahs in Iran and the Taliban.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at December 14, 2013 02:16 PM (Usdw3)

97 Yet the AP says he wasn't bullied for his beliefs so maybe not so much on that hope for the future stuff.

If only he had been bullied for his beliefs, maybe this could have been prevented.

Wait, wha...

Posted by: Methos tries to think like a lib at December 14, 2013 02:16 PM (hO9ad)

98 Ah the left, the wonderful power of rationalization. Fucking weasels.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2013 02:16 PM (HVff2)

99 97 - haha.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2013 02:17 PM (7mQyC)

100 89 I have to say. Being it says he was bullied for his beliefs, it does illuminate a small flicker of hope for the future. Posted by: Driver Sorry -- he wasn't bullied. See comment #66 above. Overt communism is still perfectly safe to espouse is American high schools, with no rebuttals and no pushback.

Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2013 02:17 PM (+cx5n)

101 Assuming that 'misidentified' is the correct term. I'd like to know the identity of the person who made the report and their political views before I assume this wasn't some bitter excluded liberal trying to ruin other people's fun That's possible. There's always somebody who wants to piss in other people's corn flakes.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2013 02:17 PM (UAMVq)

102 96 Don't forget that arch right winger Adolf Hitler!

Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2013 02:18 PM (zqvg6)

103 What difference does it make?

Posted by: Pravda at December 14, 2013 02:18 PM (CS+gn)

104 Fucking weasels. When a mommy weasel and a daddy weasel love each other very much...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2013 02:19 PM (UAMVq)

105 Yeh, this is no biggie. We did this on all days that ended with Y.

Posted by: TASS at December 14, 2013 02:19 PM (CS+gn)

106 Overt communism is still perfectly safe to espouse is American high schools, with no rebuttals and no pushback. This. It's the default political philosophy.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2013 02:19 PM (UAMVq)

107 The MFM knows full well they can do this and much worse things and not be harmed or thwarted. Tony Soprano knew the same sort of thing about himself.

Posted by: eman at December 14, 2013 02:20 PM (tqyMn)

108 It all started with Stalin,who called all his enemies " right wing".

Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2013 02:21 PM (zqvg6)

109 #68 Andy Ding! Ding! Ding! Exactly what I was thinking. I was gonna post the same thought, but for some reason exhibited some semblance of due diligence by skimming previous posts. Yes, the kid likely told his classmates "I AM A SOCIALIST!" That editor should be fired. They're supposed to report, not whitewash or 'intuit'.

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 14, 2013 02:21 PM (tTMRX)

110 This Colacioppo woman needs to be relentlessly attacked and mocked.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 14, 2013 02:22 PM (dfYL9)

111 In before the scorpion!

Posted by: toby928© still banned in Boston at December 14, 2013 02:22 PM (evdj2)

112 Par for the course Ace and why I fully support Operation Implant Dentistry

Posted by: sven at December 14, 2013 02:22 PM (9jfyN)

113 95 Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2013 05:51 PM (+cx5n) Great post, zombie, and I want to say I've appreciated your recent increased frequency of posts of late. Posted by: AmishDude If by "posts" you mean "comments on dead AoS threads, then yeah, I guess I've been "posting" more. This is to compensate for the fact that I'm on a self-imposed semi-hiatus from zombietime and PJM due to real-world work/family schedules. I still upload essays on occasion nowadays, just not as frequently. So, to milk my politics prostate, I comment. (There's a metaphor you weren't expecting, eh?)

Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2013 02:22 PM (+cx5n)

114 I also have a theory. The shooters name is Karl. I'm thinking he comes from a long line of communists. I mean, seriously, Karl?

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2013 02:23 PM (hFL/3)

115 Lying through omission and selective editing is what the media does best. It's the media's way of claiming they covered something when they didn't.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at December 14, 2013 02:23 PM (KCvsd)

116 This is a bit off topic, but not completely. I have WSJ subscription & app on iPad. I couldn't sleep last night &'started reading the third in a series of three articles from VA after WWII. Over 2000 vets, probably with PTSD were given lobotomies! A Dr. Freeman came up with the treatment & had it approved to be done by any surgeon, even those without brain surgery expertise. This was buried until WSJ discovered it. That might be wrong, it might be common knowledge. That doctor said it was okay, while they had brains open, to take out other pieces for research. Doctors that were not experienced in brain surgery, did it with ice picks through the eyes.

Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2013 02:23 PM (z4WKX)

117 Shooter was armed with 12-gauge Bidengun, machete and three incendiary devices.

Posted by: Meremortal, taking inventory at December 14, 2013 02:24 PM (jTKU5)

118 113 saw palmetto

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 14, 2013 02:24 PM (HVff2)

119 115 Lying through omission and selective editing is what the media does best. It's the media's way of claiming they covered something when they didn't. Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at December 14, 2013 06:23 PM (KCvsd) The media have become the Ministry of Truth.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2013 02:25 PM (UAMVq)

120 Overt communism is still perfectly safe to espouse is American high schools, with no rebuttals and no pushback.Posted by: zombie at December 14, 2013 06:17 PM (+cx5n)
It probably entitles one to extra credit.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 14, 2013 02:26 PM (S+wJC)

121 Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2013 06:23 PM (z4WKX)

Wtf... That is sick shit.

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at December 14, 2013 02:27 PM (IPz9m)

122 She might be right. Perhaps the student was a prospective journalism major. Can I get an amen, Amish?

Posted by: rfichoke at December 14, 2013 02:29 PM (J87gl)

123 Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2013 06:23 PM (z4WKX)

Good grief, that just made me queasy.

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2013 02:30 PM (8lmkt)

124 Corrupt lying fucksticks.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 14, 2013 02:31 PM (ZPrif)

125 "Our deepest fear is not that we are weak. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world ... As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others." -- Marianne Williamson (not Nelson Mandela)

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 14, 2013 02:33 PM (e8kgV)

126 So the classmate -- a person who KNEW the shooter -- isn't allowed to "label" said shooter, but a reporter with NO knowledge of the student is allowed to label him as one who "likely didn't even understand" a word?

She's labelling complete stranger!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 14, 2013 02:33 PM (KL49F)

127 His parents (although we don't know about him) were CHRISTIANISTS too!!!

Posted by: editor, The Denver Pussed at December 14, 2013 02:33 PM (PDhMJ)

128 Some highschool age kid will kill and wound more highschool aged kids this weekend in any number of US cities this weekend. But we won't read about it.

Posted by: oj joe at December 14, 2013 02:33 PM (5fkya)

129 KG, it is sick! I'm going back to part 2, then part 1. I hope the surgeon who got this approved had a long, painful life. They have videos of surviving family members that didn't know what was wrong with their Uncles, etc. Doesn't syphillis cause brain damage if not treated? One man had it, they could have given him antibiotics instead. I can't spell that STD, sorry.

Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2013 02:33 PM (z4WKX)

130 Remember, Socialism is such a complex and heady ideology, nobody has ever successfully implemented it in anything other than theory or the classroom. The whippersnapper can't be allowed to sully the Left's Holy Grail.

Posted by: Fritz at December 14, 2013 02:34 PM (TKFmG)

131 "The sheriff believes the teen intended to harm many more people but ended up killing himself less than two minutes after entering the school because he knew a sheriff's deputy was closing in." At least they learned from Columbine not to stand around outside the school while a shooter roams inside.

Posted by: Meremortal lived 3 miles from Columbine. at December 14, 2013 02:35 PM (jTKU5)

132 What are the odds that he went to Occupy Denver or any Occupy camp. If not the only thing stopping him was he could not get a ride.

Posted by: Trevor@TJexcite at December 14, 2013 02:36 PM (bkAvJ)

133 It's what we do.

Posted by: The Media at December 14, 2013 02:37 PM (9u2hL)

134 According to my imaginary polling 14% know what Keynsian is, but 48% feel it's best if the government regulates it.

Posted by: UWP at December 14, 2013 02:38 PM (2hQRj)

135
I hope the surgeon who got this approved had a long, painful life.

Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2013 06:33 PM (z4WKX)

No doubt he was a eugenics believer, what with that characteristic disregard for human life and dignity.

I can only hope that our modern day Mengele Dr. *spit* Emmanuel doesn't come up with his own twisted schemes for our military....

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at December 14, 2013 02:39 PM (IPz9m)

136 The Left likes a mobile set of goalposts when it comes to the definition of socialist--they favor a very, very strict dictionary definition of it when they need to shield themselves from embarrassment (as with Obama).

Posted by: --- at December 14, 2013 02:39 PM (MMC8r)

137 I'm at work now. So sorry about the mess. I just figured I'd ask the editors about an editorial decision. I honestly didn't think anyone would answer. I bet she's sorry she did and it's back to the cocoon for her.

Posted by: Whatwesettlefor at December 14, 2013 02:39 PM (AdBDH)

138 Ironically, this liberal, public school loving reporter is implying that public schools are failing to teach the definitions of words.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 14, 2013 02:40 PM (KL49F)

139 uring OctoberÂ’s game, a professor called 911 and put a classroom on lockdown after thinking he saw a real gun. And the universityÂ’s safety and transportation department got several calls to its non-emergency number while the game was being played,

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 14, 2013 02:41 PM (aHfQj)

140 So some journalist did a little creative editing to ensure a neutral story, is this really all that important? The real crisis in journalism in this country is that Megan Kelly thinks Santa is white, can't we all just focus on that?

Posted by: your betters at MSNBC at December 14, 2013 02:43 PM (IV4od)

141 Well, I hope Biden and Krugman are happy.

Posted by: Jean at December 14, 2013 02:43 PM (4JkHl)

142 Oh, I forhot. In Peruvia, the closing of the College Football season is celebrated with a ritual known as 'The Stompening of The Ungrateful Loaf'.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2013 02:43 PM (yC3ah)

143 Plus, yo, what are those fuckin' Chicoms doing on OUR moon? That's been irking me all day. I had no idea and it was a helluva thing to wake up to.

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2013 02:44 PM (8lmkt)

144 Forgot, not forhot. Which seems like it should be an old, seldom used word.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2013 02:44 PM (yC3ah)

145 The kid was a PROGRESSIVE. A very opinionated one who was running afoul of his debate coach. His opinions line up with PROGRESSIVES rather than socialists. Calling a murderer the same label as the current freaks running most of the government is not allowed.

Posted by: Lester at December 14, 2013 02:44 PM (2UPXV)

146

Keynesian terrorists!

also capital-S Socialist, did he vote for Eugene Debs way back in the day or something

Posted by: blue.dot at December 14, 2013 02:44 PM (TP6sz)

147 I'm betting the other student said he was a "highly opinionated Socialist" because the highly opinionated shooter called himself a Socialist. If only there were some way the Denver Post could clarify that with the person they interviewed. Posted by: Andy at December 14, 2013 06:01 PM (ZSnCv) ---- I'm sure an interview with him would reveal thatr the kid constantly referred to himself as a socialist.

Posted by: UWP at December 14, 2013 02:45 PM (2hQRj)

148 140 notorious far-right blonde at FOX News promoting KKK theory of Christmas

Posted by: blue.dot at December 14, 2013 02:46 PM (TP6sz)

149 One of these days, a black, female socialist nut bag is going to go into a high school with a gun intent on mayhem - and get capped by a couple of pure capitalist, MS13 gangbangers, here illegally, selling pot in the parking lot. The press will tie itself in knots.

Posted by: Jean at December 14, 2013 02:47 PM (4JkHl)

150 Smell that?

Smells like blue shit.

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2013 02:48 PM (5ikDv)

151 Progressives don't kill people with shotguns, they use hoes. It's better for Mother Gaia.

Posted by: Jean at December 14, 2013 02:48 PM (4JkHl)

152 what are those fuckin' Chicoms doing on OUR moon? - Yeah, the Moon is white, like Santa Claus.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 14, 2013 02:49 PM (npF2s)

153 #137 No; thank you. Somebody needs to police those suckers-of-cock. If we don't, no one will.

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 14, 2013 02:49 PM (tTMRX)

154 what are those fuckin' Chicoms doing on OUR moon? If you wanted to claim the Moon you should have placed a flag there, like we did on Mars.

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at December 14, 2013 02:51 PM (yC3ah)

155 So this kid hated your right to self defense so much he made a point of purchasing a shotgun lawfully to show you how bad those laws are. Which means it was an illegal purchase since he bought it with intent to murder.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at December 14, 2013 02:51 PM (MhA4j)

156 Another Progtard brainwashed kid shoots classmates...

For Gun Control!

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2013 02:51 PM (5ikDv)

157 "Crazy Carl" www.youtube.com/watch?v=XveOdgoiLjI "Obscene anger issues"

Posted by: Sarahw at December 14, 2013 02:51 PM (LYwCh)

158 152 what are those fuckin' Chicoms doing on OUR moon? - Yeah, the Moon is white, like Santa Claus. Posted by: WalrusRex at December 14, 2013 06:49 PM (npF2s) Bullshit, my charts prove is green cheese.

Posted by: Mike the Mann at December 14, 2013 02:52 PM (4JkHl)

159 "Conservatives" are always the evil ones according to the media. The old communists in the politburo who clung to power until the end were "conservative", as are the mullahs in Iran and the Taliban. Posted by: JoeyBagels at December 14, 2013 06:16 PM (Usdw3) That's why I refuse to accept their labels. I self-identify as "classical liberal" and explain that I believe in the primacy of the individual over government. I always call the current crop of Leftist what they are: paternalistic totalitarians/collectivists.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at December 14, 2013 02:52 PM (2Jy1U)

160 HE WAS THE BULLY He shouted down a student When corrected he shouted down and threatened his debate coach, which got him canned from the team and suspended from school If you disagree with him HE WILL KILL YOU "Get in their faces!"

Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 02:53 PM (zOTsN)

161 156 Another Progtard brainwashed kid shoots classmates... For Gun Control! Posted by: noone, really at December 14, 2013 06:51 PM (5ikDv) And the middle class.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2013 02:53 PM (UAMVq)

162 NAVY RULES! 12 in a row!
On an unrelated matter, read this link.
It's about Navy Sailors getting cancer from helping with the Japanese Tsunami.

http://tinyurl.com/me443od

Posted by: jwb7605 [/i][/u][/s][/b] at December 14, 2013 02:53 PM (3Tv+N)

163 Bullshit, my charts prove is green cheese. Posted by: Mike the Mann at December 14, 2013 06:52 PM (4JkHl)

And now I have to watch Wallace and Gromit.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 14, 2013 02:54 PM (Gk3SS)

164 I bet the libs already have their anti gun fundraising letters typed up? Wouldn't want to let another shooting go to waste would they?

Posted by: Lloyd Loar at December 14, 2013 02:54 PM (9u2hL)

165 JEA/occam/bluedot: STFU, you dunce.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2013 02:54 PM (gnIRz)

166 163 Bullshit, my charts prove is green cheese. Posted by: Mike the Mann at December 14, 2013 06:52 PM (4JkHl) And now I have to watch Wallace and Gromit. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 14, 2013 06:54 PM (Gk3SS) Stilton? Wensleydale?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2013 02:55 PM (UAMVq)

167 Just referring to all shooters as "socialists" would be okay by me. Maybe not jello shooters, but, you know...

Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2013 02:55 PM (FcR7P)

168 @165

Oh is that what it was?
I took the dog out and thought I had stepped in something.

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2013 02:56 PM (5ikDv)

169 And now I have to watch Wallace and Gromit.

Time well spent, my queen.

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2013 02:56 PM (8lmkt)

170 I still upload essays on occasion nowadays, just not as frequently. So, to milk my politics prostate, I comment. (There's a metaphor you weren't expecting, eh?) Surprisingly, no.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 14, 2013 02:56 PM (xSegX)

171

>>>I'd be pretty offended if I were the student who gave them that quote. I hope she speaks out on being thrown under the bus as stupid for speaking the truth.

.I am fairly certain that student has already had a visit from the Police and the School Administration and has been told to not talk about a "pending investigation".

Posted by: Registered Voter at December 14, 2013 02:57 PM (BGFPo)

172 ....who was described as exceptionally bright but difficult and argumentative -- was upset about being booted from the debate team.

Minne said the senior had a combative personality.

"He was always the type that wanted to be right. He would always argue with the teacher about scholastic things, whatever we were talking about he always had something to say. Never wanted anyone to tell him he was wrong. I definitely noticed that in the classes I was in with him," Minne said. "He spoke intelligently, he's a smart guy, I think he did pretty well in school, he was just kinda weird. ... He wasn't a violent person, HE WAS JUST VERBALLY AGGRESSIVE." http://tinyurl.com/mvrrh4k

How can even a kid say someone wasn't violent if the just stormed a school to kill his debate coach and shot other kids and himself?

Posted by: Lester at December 14, 2013 02:57 PM (2UPXV)

173 He had a shotgun, a machete, and two Molotov cocktails

Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 02:57 PM (zOTsN)

174 ~~notorious far-right blonde at FOX News promoting KKK theory of Christmas~~ leftists race-obsessiveness leads makes them immune to self-parody and completely lacking in self awareness FIFY, derp.

Posted by: --- at December 14, 2013 02:57 PM (MMC8r)

175 Stilton? Wensleydale? Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2013 06:55 PM (UAMVq)

Yes, please.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 14, 2013 02:58 PM (Gk3SS)

176 Sounds like a local news story...

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at December 14, 2013 02:58 PM (Pr6hk)

177

Reposted from the comments in Gabe's story below.

Why can't we get some lawyers to file a class action suit against ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN and those in the press that slander right wingers and the tea party? We have seen time and again, stories that readily identify Republicans in the first paragraph of a news story, if not in the first line or headline (ie Lamar Alexander's aid or whatever he was), but when it is a known or suspected dem, nada. Then there are all of Gabe's examples, baseless slander from the Left. It's fraud, slander, and journalistic malpractice and it needs to stop.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 14, 2013 02:58 PM (Zswg6)

178 Certainly feels as of this school shooting, timed same as a Friday afternoon White-House-news-dump, will end up having no legs at all. Newtown anniversary? Meh. Budget deal? Bleh. Meanwhile, the economy continues its downward spiral, and no one feels a thing. But Navy beat Army in a sloshy cold mess.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 14, 2013 02:58 PM (jzewP)

179 God the girl he shot has severe head trauma due to gunshot Cowardly fuck!

Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 02:58 PM (zOTsN)

180 Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 06:53 PM
Yep. They be fascists.

Posted by: Lester at December 14, 2013 02:59 PM (2UPXV)

181 174 I wasn't serious. y'all're sensitive

Posted by: blue.dot at December 14, 2013 03:00 PM (TP6sz)

182 Own him, derp, he's one of yours!

Posted by: --- at December 14, 2013 03:00 PM (MMC8r)

183 He wasn't a violent person, right up to the part where he shot two people and blew his own brains out in a public school because DEBATE TEAM REVENGE AND REPUBLICANS!!11!!

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2013 03:01 PM (5ikDv)

184 ooh derp is strong

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 14, 2013 03:01 PM (ZPrif)

185 Clearly the answer is to ban debate teams.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2013 03:02 PM (hFL/3)

186

182 i'm not a leftist. y'all're very serious.

Posted by: blue.dot at December 14, 2013 03:02 PM (TP6sz)

187 They're journalists, in other words, they're liars. Look, the profession is terminally corrupt. It needs to fade away now. But it won't, because it is a political tool. A filthy cesspit of a destructive political tool, but it gets results.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 14, 2013 03:02 PM (qyfb5)

188 Breaking eggs, making omelets...another day in left Paradise...

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2013 03:02 PM (5ikDv)

189 I suck at twitter, so I may be wrong, but it looks like the DPost scrunt deleted those tweets.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2013 03:04 PM (hFL/3)

190 also saying anyone has to own up to this guy is like people saying that Anders Breivik somehow tainted the right, it's a stretch

Posted by: blue.dot at December 14, 2013 03:04 PM (TP6sz)

191 It really does seem like the angry leftist rhetoric directly impacted young Karl's decisions here.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2013 03:05 PM (hFL/3)

192 I want to know what he was arguing about with the other student last week, that led the debate coach to intervene. I want to know how he threatened the debate coach during that argument. I have no doubt finding out that would be embarrassing and destructive to the narrative Therefore, This story will not be reported at all past this weekend

Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 03:06 PM (zOTsN)

193 Obama told him to get in their faces. Obama is directly responsible.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 14, 2013 03:06 PM (ZPrif)

194 8 Students said Pierson(Colorado school shooter) held communist views and liked to discuss current events and issues..
http://tinyurl.com/l93uemh

QFT

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2013 03:06 PM (5ikDv)

195 So that's two confirmed cases of someone taking literally the Left's advice to "get in their faces." FRC/Chick-fil-a guy, and this young socialist.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2013 03:06 PM (hFL/3)

196 174 I wasn't serious. y'all're sensitive Posted by: blue.dot at December 14, 2013 07:00 PM (TP6sz) Heh. You progs believe in the White Man's Burden, you just don't call it that anymore. You're the guys victimizing blacks by your bigotry of low expectations.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at December 14, 2013 03:06 PM (2Jy1U)

197 "The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses." -- Lenin, Centrist and Syphilis Enthusiast Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 14, 2013 03:07 PM (gnLTi)

198 there's "angry" rhetoric on both sides, the difference is mainly that "respectable" liberal columnists give credence to treating conservatives as irrational, while their conservative counterparts try to be nicer about engaging the argument. but if one side doesn't accept that your opinions have a rational basis, as is the case with liberals these days, argument is pretty useless

Posted by: blue.dot at December 14, 2013 03:08 PM (TP6sz)

199 Ace, If I post the URL from WSJ that is behind their paywall, is it okay as long as I credit it? IÂ’m getting more horrified as I read the series on lobotomies. Thank you, Carol

Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2013 03:08 PM (z4WKX)

200 196 lol whereTF did this come from

Posted by: blue.dot at December 14, 2013 03:08 PM (TP6sz)

201 He had a shotgun, a machete, and two Molotov cocktails Was it a machete or a copy of 'Machete'? Because that movie sucked.

Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2013 03:09 PM (yC3ah)

202 Shut the fuck up Go back to the huffpo echo chamber Or troll hot air Go away You are boring and predictable. You add nothing

Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 03:10 PM (zOTsN)

203 I'm watching Naked and Afraid. Julie and Puma are teamed up. Two idiots. Two naked idiots. And I'm a bigger idiot for watching them.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2013 03:10 PM (gnIRz)

204 If anyone other than the shooter is as fault here, it's the public school system for brainwashing him into thinking gun-rights are evil. These schools are fomenting violence against those who support the Constitution.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 14, 2013 03:10 PM (KL49F)

205 I don't feel sorry for him, but I do feel sorry for his parents. He's in clubs, has friends, is by any account "high functioning"... and now they have to wonder how it might have been their fault because what didn't they see? We're so bound to "nurture" these days that it's always the parent's fault. He failed to kill whoever it was he was after (the debate coach?) but he succeeded in subjecting his parents to abusive emotional punishment for their rest of their lives.

Posted by: Synova at December 14, 2013 03:10 PM (7/PU+)

206 Print is the sharpest and the strongest weapon of our party.

Stalin

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2013 03:11 PM (5ikDv)

207 202 I've never posted on either site. good try tho

Posted by: blue.dot at December 14, 2013 03:11 PM (TP6sz)

208 " it's the public school system for brainwashing him into thinking gun-rights are evil. These schools are fomenting violence against those who support the Constitution." And Obama. And liberals. And the media. The entire left wing machine shares in the blame.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2013 03:11 PM (hFL/3)

209 Fucking people. Yeah? What's "Conservative" then, you useless, encrusted twat? ..and I fucking HATE that word.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at December 14, 2013 03:12 PM (+jW+U)

210 And even if his parents are liberal loonies who rant about the Tea Party all day and the danger of guns... sorry... not their fault.

Posted by: Synova at December 14, 2013 03:12 PM (7/PU+)

211 He also shot a beautiful 15 year old girl in the head He should burn in hell His parent prolly fed him these ideas

Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 03:12 PM (zOTsN)

212 They named him Karl.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2013 03:12 PM (hFL/3)

213 some serious reverse-engineering of the old "Palin had targets on a map" and "Sharron Angle talked about 2nd Amendment remedies" talking points going on here

Posted by: blue.dot at December 14, 2013 03:12 PM (TP6sz)

214 Typical 'progressive.' You're full of shit and even You don't believe a word you're saying.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 14, 2013 03:14 PM (gnIRz)

215 What are you talking about, the Denver Post that I know of is of very high ethics. Is this the same Denver Post that decided not to report on current Denver Mayor Michael Hancock being a frequent visitor of Denver Sugar's, a local brothel, when two prostitutes would admit to Mr. Hancock being a client of theirs? No, I can't believe that they would alter a story this way.

Is this the same Denver Post that, when two "illegal aliens" (who were never named) came knocking, the Post gladly ran a story about how they installed a home theater system at then presidential candidate Tom Tancrado's home? No, your report seems to fall below their standards of ethics.

How dare you sir, slander the good integrity of this highly prestigious institution known as the Denver Post. Good Day!

Posted by: tunakermit at December 14, 2013 03:14 PM (idk45)

216 You are boring and predictable. You add nothing Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 07:10 PM (zOTsN)

I don't know if I'm proud or pissed that I got banninated like immediately when I was sock trolling the other day.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 14, 2013 03:15 PM (Gk3SS)

217 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Rocky Mountain News at December 14, 2013 03:16 PM (hFL/3)

218 The Arapahoe shooting came a day before the one-year anniversary of the Newtown, Conn., attack in which a gunman killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Terrorism.

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at December 14, 2013 03:16 PM (5ikDv)

219 #213 Exactly. Or... more or less, yes. No one and no philosophy made this guy snap after not getting what he wanted on the debate team. I do say "more or less" though because while the philosophy doesn't make anyone decide to kill someone any more than a FPS video game or declaring abortion is murder, it certainly didn't get through with any love and tolerance of diverse ideas. Not that this seems to be about intolerance of ideas...

Posted by: Synova at December 14, 2013 03:16 PM (7/PU+)

220 I said "IF it's anyone's fault but the shooter's" because the Left LOVES to attribute blame on anyone BUT the perp. I'm just using their own rules against them.

But the kid was brainwashed in the public school system and they are trying to make Manchurian Candidates out of our kids.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 14, 2013 03:16 PM (KL49F)

221 Their creepy agenda aside, how can the Denver Post represent themselves as journalists if they edit quotes in order to obfuscate?

Posted by: jix at December 14, 2013 03:17 PM (iGpXz)

222 217 Miss me yet? Posted by: Rocky Mountain News at December 14, 2013 07:16 PM (hFL/3) ------------------------------- Oh, yes. Yes.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 14, 2013 03:18 PM (dfYL9)

223 Was he "bullied" or was he simply an asshole?

When you're an asshole people respond accordingly.

Posted by: BuckIV at December 14, 2013 03:18 PM (CLfqv)

224 There's a simple term for their explanation: bullshit.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 14, 2013 03:20 PM (X/+QT)

225 Their creepy agenda aside, how can the Denver Post represent themselves as journalists if they edit quotes in order to obfuscate?
Posted by: jix at December 14, 2013 07:17 PM

Only if they deem you are likely incapable of making a coherent, knowledgeable statement, of course.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at December 14, 2013 03:22 PM (KQp38)

226 He was the bully. It got him suspended. He threatened a teacher. Reject the premise

Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 03:22 PM (zOTsN)

227 Stalin would be proud. He'd give the Denver Post an A for effort and a D for execution . . . they were not thorough. Then he'd execute the lot for not being thorough, Just look at North Korea on how to make an uncle vanish.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 14, 2013 03:22 PM (RXQ2T)

228 But the kid was brainwashed in the public school system and they are trying to make Manchurian Candidates out of our kids.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 14, 2013 07:16 PM (KL49F)

There is no "trying" about it.

And this is going on ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 14, 2013 03:22 PM (LSDdO)

229 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 14, 2013 07:22 PM (LSDdO)

Yep, and it's why my mom started homeschooling me when I was eight. She was sick of the State acting like her kid was their kid. She's possessive that way.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 14, 2013 03:26 PM (KL49F)

230 Is there any national political leftist leader who has been pleading with youth to get in peoples faces, talk to them about healthcare at every opportunity no matter how inappropriate to the venue? Who would that be? Who would be exhorting youth to confront friends and family on political issues? Lead them to think it was a life or death matter? Lead them to anger and fear all out of proportion to normal high school concerns? Who?

Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 03:26 PM (zOTsN)

231 Good news everyone, Paul Ryan will be on NBC with Patty Murray in the morning bashing conservatives.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 14, 2013 03:26 PM (IV4od)

232 Obviously, he "...might have been bullied for his beliefs..." by students who had no idea what those beliefs were.

Posted by: Neal Marx, American Newsman at December 14, 2013 03:26 PM (6ahup)

233 NBC? At least no one will be watching

Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 03:27 PM (zOTsN)

234 He *was* violent, not just argumentative. According to one kid purporting to be his classmate, at an event where donuts were brought in as refreshments, a kid ate HIS donut...so he choked the kid until he turned purple and others had to pry darling Carl's fingers off the donut nabber"s neck.

Posted by: Sarahw at December 14, 2013 03:27 PM (LYwCh)

235 So the religious parents didn't notice the debater/shooter had bought a shotgun, machete, and was rigging incendiary devices? Where did he get the money for this stuff or did he have a job? When self described communists start building bombs and carrying long knives and shotguns I think I would notice.

Posted by: Lester at December 14, 2013 03:27 PM (2UPXV)

236 CBS Evening News whitewashed his leftist views completely and seemed to implicate "religion" and "divorce". Abject lying: the new facts.

Posted by: Beagle at December 14, 2013 03:28 PM (sOtz/)

237 Good news everyone, Paul Ryan will be on NBC with Patty Murray in the morning bashing conservatives.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 14, 2013 07:26 PM (IV4od)

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2013 03:28 PM (8lmkt)

238 Posted by: lowandslow at December 14, 2013 07:26 PM (IV4od)

I assume Patty will have on the extra large strap on?

I hear Ryan likes the stretchiness.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 14, 2013 03:28 PM (LSDdO)

239 No one and no philosophy made this guy snap>>

Maybe not snap but to be willing to kill innocents is driven by the ends justify the means, get in their face, you have to break some eggs to make an omelet crowd which is mostly left and specifically socialist.

Posted by: The Hickster at December 14, 2013 03:29 PM (TI3xG)

240 What we have heah, is a failure to lock up the insane.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 14, 2013 03:29 PM (LSDdO)

241 >>I don't know if I'm proud or pissed that I got banninated like immediately when I was sock trolling the other day. We only get to pick one now? I demand a refund. Proudly.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 14, 2013 03:30 PM (SUKHu)

242 I should say the PROVEN VIOLENT INSANE.

Wouldn't want anyone to start putting false labels on people to stifle their politics or freedoms.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 14, 2013 03:30 PM (LSDdO)

243 We need machete-control!!!11eleventy

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 14, 2013 03:31 PM (KL49F)

244 "We need machete-control!!!11eleventy" Racist!

Posted by: NMA at December 14, 2013 03:31 PM (hFL/3)

245 What we have heah, is a failure to lock up the insane.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 14, 2013 07:29 PM (LSDdO)

What we have here is a threadwinner!

Posted by: Peaches at December 14, 2013 03:32 PM (8lmkt)

246 236 Congressman Ryan how do you deal with the nutwinger section of your part?

Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2013 03:32 PM (zqvg6)

247 Another Joe Biden shooter: shotgun now weapon of choice (assuming news is accurate).

Posted by: Beagle at December 14, 2013 03:32 PM (sOtz/)

248 226 He was the bully. It got him suspended. He threatened a teacher. Reject the premise Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 07:22 PM (zOTsN) **************** Typical bully; insecure and thinks the world revolves around them. I understand the teacher in question led the kid away from the school as as to minimize casualties.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 14, 2013 03:33 PM (RXQ2T)

249 We only get to pick one now?

I demand a refund. Proudly. Posted by: Mama AJ at December 14, 2013 07:30 PM (SUKHu)

I was trying to be all reasonable and crap.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 14, 2013 03:33 PM (Gk3SS)

250 But those new CO gun laws didn't stop this shooting? Why I just can't believe it, they need more.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 14, 2013 03:35 PM (MaP11)

251 ATC I was just weary of blue dot not feather. Did I jump ugly on you? If so I'm sorry

Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 03:35 PM (zOTsN)

252 I wonder if this kid sees himself as as martyr to the gun-grabbing cause.

Posted by: Gem at December 14, 2013 03:35 PM (zw+pb)

253 It would be a good thing if conservatives and other believers in responsible government and sound fiscal policy had some sort of national organization that could speak out about the falsehoods and obfuscations of the Democrat Left.

A group that could (if it had a large enough representation in Congress) could instigate investigations and seek testimony on why and how news organizations consistently present a unified and Democrat/Left supporting narrative regardless of the facts of any particular event.

Or could even spend time explaining why sound fiscal policy is necessary for the health of the Country.

Be nice if we had some organization like that with leaders that believed and acted on those principles.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 14, 2013 03:36 PM (LSDdO)

254 a kid ate HIS donut...so he choked the kid until he turned purple Posted by: Sarahw at December 14, 2013 07:27 PM (LYwCh)
I don't blame him.

Posted by: Homer Simpson at December 14, 2013 03:36 PM (S+wJC)

255 ATC I was just weary of blue dot not feather. Did I jump ugly on you? If so I'm sorry Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 07:35 PM (zOTsN)

No, no, no, nothing of the sort. I was making fun of myself is all. You didn't do anything at all.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at December 14, 2013 03:37 PM (Gk3SS)

256 The MFM: where useless assholes with reality issues go to contribute to the greater bad. Utopia is unreachable without a Creative Editing License.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 14, 2013 03:38 PM (42o0q)

257 @253 We can call it (nothing like) The Republican Party.

Posted by: Beagle at December 14, 2013 03:39 PM (sOtz/)

258 So.

Will the patch we'll be required to sew onto our clothes be a large
C or an R?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 14, 2013 03:39 PM (LSDdO)

259 I long for the fjords of Peruvia

Posted by: Thunderb at December 14, 2013 03:40 PM (zOTsN)

260 >>I don't blame him. >>Posted by: Homer Simpson A Tea Party spokesman took credit today for inspiring previous acts...

Posted by: Brian Ross at December 14, 2013 03:40 PM (SUKHu)

261 @carol, Honestly, That's about par for the course for that time period in research. When my colleagues ask me (the former scientist) why I don't trust the research enterprise, I say "with it's history why should I?" "Acres of Flesh" is a good story on prisoners research. "Willowbrook Wars" for children stuff. And the National Commission on the human radiation experiments wrote a whole bit on when the government shoved radioactive rods up servicemen's noses.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at December 14, 2013 03:41 PM (GaqMa)

262 Be nice if we had some organization like that with leaders that believed and acted on those principles.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 14, 2013 07:36 PM (LSDdO)

Whoa, let's not get carried away here.

Posted by: John Boehner at December 14, 2013 03:43 PM (2DunM)

263 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at December 14, 2013 07:41 PM (GaqMa)

Reminds me of boot camp when they gave us this shot and afterwards, everyone in every company got sick. (and they knew that was going to happen.

To this day, I have no idea what it was. or whether it was anything at all but it seemed strange the widespread effect.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 14, 2013 03:47 PM (LSDdO)

264
(Top Fuel Dragster voice)

Sunday....Sunday.....SUNDAY

Paul and Patti appearing LIVE......SUNDAY!

Posted by: NCwoof at December 14, 2013 03:48 PM (aUQgu)

265 "Acres of Flesh" is a good story on prisoners research. "Willowbrook Wars" for children stuff. And the National Commission on the human radiation experiments wrote a whole bit on when the government shoved radioactive rods up servicemen's noses. Posted by: tsrblke, PhDÂ© (tablet) at December 14, 2013 07:41 PM (GaqMa) I feel sick from reading just two of the three part series. I will read third later. Thank you. Carol

Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2013 03:48 PM (z4WKX)

266 And the National Commission on the human radiation experiments wrote a whole bit on when the government shoved radioactive rods up servicemen's noses. Seriously? Good lord.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 14, 2013 03:48 PM (UAMVq)

267 258 [Bitter Clinger]

I'll take the Battle Flag of Northern Virginia for 1000, Alex

Posted by: NCwoof at December 14, 2013 03:50 PM (aUQgu)

268 Anybody watch A Young Doctor's Notebook? I watched season 1 and it was a bit too dark for me. Season 2 is better though when I think about it it is pretty dark, too. Probably, more but with less body parts. It's the story of a doctor right out of school in 1917 Russia sent to some hell hole to run a hospital. It's pretty miserable. It's black humor but frankly I'm not into all that ruskie doom and gloom.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 14, 2013 03:51 PM (h4eud)

269 Denver Post School of Journalism. 1. See news 2. Decide what lesson needs to be taught. 3. Report facts that support the conclusion 4. Suppress or distort facts that don't.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at December 14, 2013 04:10 PM (h53OH)

270 With respect to Ace, I don't understand why anyone treats these people as honest brokers at all. Why engage them as ethical persons? Since the Clinton years I've seen nothing but complete dishonesty from the Left. Since they became full on Socialist/Communist during W's time they seem now to have programmed even their Bien Pensant foot soldiers as mentally ill liars. Why discuss it? They consider every conversation a battle to be won at any cost. They are the Master Race of our political time. It's like doing business with a devout Muslim who won't even shake your hand while he's pretending, badly, that you are more than a talking pig to him. Fuck these mainstream dinosaurs. Confront them with their lies and move on. They are going to destroy us all and then blame it on us while they move on to their next target.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 14, 2013 04:35 PM (t9gHm)

271 Clearly the answer is to ban debate teams.

Posted by: Lauren at December 14, 2013 07:02 PM (hFL/3)

Now, now. Clearly the kid was a master debater.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2013 05:34 PM (60Q+L)

272 I wonder if this kid sees himself as as martyr to the gun-grabbing cause.

Posted by: Gem at December 14, 2013 07:35 PM (zw+pb)

His last thought was probably looking at his brains on the ceiling, and saying to himself, "that's me, all over."

Denounces self, but only a little.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2013 05:41 PM (60Q+L)

273 WHAT? Lee Ann, is 'socialist' a slur your paper can get sued over?

You do know that the POTUS is/was a member of the 'socialist' New Party, ehh?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 14, 2013 06:55 PM (80R0X)

274

I'm not on Twitter, so could someone please ask her about this:

"The words of our sources and the people we cover must never be altered."

Ethics Policy of Denver Post
http://www.denverpost.com/ethicspolicy

Posted by: Fen at December 15, 2013 12:16 AM (a422o)

275 The student said what he said, they are supposed to report facts, not clean up quotes. Whether he understood it or not, he said it.

Posted by: docweasel at December 15, 2013 05:46 AM (tVTtf)

276 INTJ. I always knew I was a Sith Lord.

Posted by: NJRob at December 15, 2013 08:27 AM (iJWJi)

277 I have also never seen such a "run up" to an anniversary as the week-long coverage PRECEDING the Sandy Hook shooting. Of course, of course it was one of the most horrific crimes in the US, but the patently forced attempts of the hard Statists to keep this event on the "front burner" is truly dispiriting. Reminds me very much of the prior Ace post (I believe) on how the left transformed its disgust with the fact that a "silly little Communist" in fact killed JFK all by his lonesome deranged self, into the "culture of hate" meme. Very recently I was in the home of a libtard (parent of one of my child's school friends) who was risk-tisking about the "culture of hate" as he'd seen it described in "The Kennedy museum" (as though referencing the Vatican). Me: "You do know that Lee Harvey Oswald was a self-declared, committed communist, visited the Soviet Union, wrote numerous letters that he wanted to serve Communism, etc." He: "WellÂ….he was crazy, so you knowÂ…yada yadaÂ…." Always their way: attribute any act evil and lunacy to "right wing" ideology when possible. When frank Communisits or other Statists go bad: well then we must be dealing with something form of idiosyncratic derangement.

Posted by: NYC Parent at December 15, 2013 11:02 AM (dbIOh)

278 "We decided"? Those two words are all the answer any thinking person needs.

Posted by: jbspry at December 15, 2013 10:14 PM (vZrwS)

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