October 18, 2013

The Dumbest Post of the Day
— Ace

This really should have been my slumpbuster: Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to run for president, and he wants either an Amendment to the Constitution to permit this, or he wants to attempt a legal challenge to a clear and unchallengeable statement in the Constitution.

One source said: “Schwarzenegger has been talking openly about working on getting the constitutional rules changed so he can run for president in 2016. He is ready to file legal paperwork to challenge the rules.”

...

Columbia University Law School professor Michael Dorf, an expert in constitutional law, said about the Governator’s case in 2007, “The law is very clear, but it’s not 100 percent clear that the courts would enforce that law rather than leave it to the political process.”

There are a few problems with a Schwarzenegger run, apart from the fact that it's flat-out illegal.

There is the little matter of his love-child with his maid (?), for example. Scandals are no longer automatically disqualifying in candidates, but they don't help. There were already unsavory claims about Schwarzenegger's treatment of women before that, too, claims people will probably now be inclined to take more seriously.

Then there's this: His governorship of California is widely adjudged to be either a disappointment or a failure, and such assessments are bipartisan. Tripartisan, actually, when you consider that Libertarians (his natural constituency) also were disappointed in his work as governor.

This old Reason article by Tim Cavanaugh makes the best case possible for Schwarzenegger as a partial success as Governor, but the author is fairly unconvinced himself.

So is there a case for Gov. Schwarzenegger? HereÂ’s my best defense:

First, as Abraham Lincoln said of Ulysses Grant, “He fights.” Schwarzenegger’s time in office has been marked by almost constant public struggles with teachers, prison guards, nurses, and walk-on players like the preening Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg and the obstructionist Controller John Chiang. Schwarzenegger, a lifelong dealmaker, is nevertheless willing to fire heavy weapons at his opponents....


Schwarzenegger is also willing to say the holiest word in any politicianÂ’s vocabulary: no. He has set yearly state records for percentages of bills vetoed, memorably adding an acrostic F-bomb in the memo accompanying his rejection of a Port of San Francisco boondoggle....

“He’s helped us more than he’s harmed us, for sure,” says Marcia Fritz, president of the California Foundation for Fiscal Responsibility.

...

Finally, while Schwarzenegger failed to shrink government, he did limit its growth.

These are indeed good things. So I'm personally inclined to put Schwarzenegger in the "disappointment" column, rather than the "failure" one.

But the only way the Constitution would be altered to permit a Schwarzenegger bid were if he were such a towering figure -- the Only Man Capable of Saving America -- that the public would demand it.

But he's not. He was, at best, a somewhat competent governor who picked some fights on spending and had partial success in those fights, and partial failures. He also has no substantial constituency at all, having thwarted the Blue State Government Goons on spending and raises for public employees, and having thwarted conservatives on high-profile lobbying for gay marriage and The Crucial Fight Against Global Warming.

So who, apart from Schwarzenegger, seriously entertains this idea, apart from Michael Bloomberg?

Update: Actually, here's where I am most disappointed:

The hope of Schwarzenegger was that he could leverage his star-power and charisma to become a Reagan-esque promoter of Milton Freeman style economics and general political liberty. That is, that he could mainstream an ideology of liberty which the reactionary leftist media, academic, and government classes are determined to delegitimize and Otherize.

I would give f***-all about his mixed record on specific spending items in California if he managed to do that.

The battle for people's minds is more important than any battle over any budget.

Not only did he definitely not manage to do that, I'm not even sure he tried particularly hard. The only thing I have any memory of him talking about is the Statist imperative to Fight Global Warming.

Posted by: Ace at 11:41 AM | Comments (387)
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1 He'd get my vote.  The man knows his way around a set of honkers.

Posted by: Bob Filner, Graduate, Sensitivity Training Centers of Cleveland at October 18, 2013 11:42 AM (8ZskC)

2 Show us the birth certificate!

Posted by: D1st at October 18, 2013 11:43 AM (fIkHQ)

3 Taco Bell supports him. In the future, all restaurants are Taco Bell. Schwarzenegger must become president in order for that "Demolition Man" future to come true.

Posted by: wooga at October 18, 2013 11:43 AM (6XdzX)

4

Um, no thanks.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at October 18, 2013 11:43 AM (0HooB)

5 Ya gotta admit

Yargh!

is more comprehensible than current GOP messaging.

Posted by: DaveA at October 18, 2013 11:44 AM (DL2i+)

6 Only if Jesse Ventura isn't available.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2013 11:44 AM (8ZskC)

7 Oh, you knew i'd show up on this thread. Sure. Why not? It's not as if Article II has any meaning at all. Kenyans? Canadians? Why not Austrians?

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 11:44 AM (bb5+k)

8 Does this mean that it would validate our current President's eligibility retroactively? (And, no, I am not a birther. It is a joke.)

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at October 18, 2013 11:44 AM (QR7wx)

9


Ahhhh-nold did a lot of talkin', but he had a glass chin...



Posted by: California Legislature at October 18, 2013 11:44 AM (Pr6hk)

10

Well, we can and have done worse with a foreign born president...

 

I keeed I keeed. Although I'm sure this quote is now screencapped at the daily kos in the 2 minute hate section.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 18, 2013 11:45 AM (t06LC)

11 Oh, and yeah, Arnold Schwarzenegger was a wimpy girly man of a governor too. We already have one of those, and he's always on PMS.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 11:45 AM (bb5+k)

12 So who, apart from Schwarzenegger, seriously entertains this idea, apart from Michael Bloomberg?

Hello, sailor.

Posted by: Donald Trump at October 18, 2013 11:45 AM (SY2Kh)

13 Maybe it's a tumor.

Posted by: wooga at October 18, 2013 11:45 AM (6XdzX)

14 But the only way the Constitution would be altered to permit a Schwarzenegger bid were if he were such a towering figure -- the Only Man Capable of Saving America -- that the public would demand it.

I thought the public just re-elected that guy?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 18, 2013 11:45 AM (fwARV)

15 And Lou Ferrigno would make a great VP.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2013 11:45 AM (8ZskC)

16 Dude couldn't fix Callyfornia, so he isn't worth of pinch of wienerschnitzel.  Too much Kenndy-Shriver rubbed off on his ass.

Posted by: PipeHolder at October 18, 2013 11:46 AM (VTeUD)

17 hasta la vista baby

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 18, 2013 11:46 AM (8JJ6O)

18 I'm sick of these super egos thinking there is a right to hold political office. Go away and take that asshhole mccain with you.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 18, 2013 11:46 AM (shXYq)

19

Ah-nold ended up being the 'girlie-mahn'

Rolled over like a puppy.

Took it like a bitch.



Posted by: California Legislature at October 18, 2013 11:46 AM (Pr6hk)

20 Australians can't run for president mate.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at October 18, 2013 11:46 AM (a6O1A)

21 Yes, this was the dumbest post of the day. Not even worthy of discussion. Arnold was the RINO squish personified.

Posted by: Ken Royall at October 18, 2013 11:46 AM (h+2SD)

22 We should run every other actor who has faced off AGAINST Schwarzenegger in the movies as candidates.  Possible choices include:



1.  James Earl Jones


2.  Michael Biehn


3.  Robert Patrick



Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 11:46 AM (doBIb)

23 10 Well, we can and have done worse with a foreign born president... I keeed I keeed. Although I'm sure this quote is now screencapped at the daily kos in the 2 minute hate section. Posted by: Jollyroger at October 18, 2013 03:45 PM (t06LC) At this point, I would prefer Cuban Father, Canadian born Ted Cruz over anyone else I see on the potential field. If THEY won't play by the rules, we don't need to play by the rules either.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 11:46 AM (bb5+k)

24 Yeah, I never met a single Kaleefornyun who was happy with Arnold.

Posted by: Y-not at October 18, 2013 11:46 AM (5H6zj)

25 Fuck you Aunold. We already ran McLame. Go make a movie you maid humping old bastard.

Posted by: maddogg at October 18, 2013 11:46 AM (xWW96)

26 memorably adding an acrostic F-bomb in the memo accompanying his rejection of a Port of San Francisco boondoggle

Hah, I hadn't heard about that, and just looked it up. Funny.

The Rollover Brigade would faint over the lack of comity and lamentable tone, of course.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 18, 2013 11:46 AM (YVx8A)

27

I'll be baaack!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at October 18, 2013 11:47 AM (0HooB)

28 Holy crap, can't believe no one's said this yet:



"GET TO DAH CHOPPA, NICKLEFUCKAH!!!"

Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 11:47 AM (doBIb)

29 And Lou Ferrigno would make a great VP. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2013 03:45 PM (8ZskC) But if we're talking action heroes, I nominate Chuck Norris for Secretary of State!

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at October 18, 2013 11:47 AM (EJ/Tn)

30 It's not a tumor

Posted by: Beto at October 18, 2013 11:48 AM (VWfCN)

31

Ah-nold was like a cross of McConnell and Boehner but without the weeping.



Posted by: California Legislature at October 18, 2013 11:48 AM (Pr6hk)

32 I tink Auhnold has a tumah.

Posted by: maddogg at October 18, 2013 11:48 AM (xWW96)

33 I suspect he'd have the Jose Canseco constituency locked up tighter than a dolphins asshole.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 18, 2013 11:48 AM (SY2Kh)

34 24 Yeah, I never met a single Kaleefornyun who was happy with Arnold. Posted by: Y-not at October 18, 2013 03:46 PM (5H6zj) Or anyone from anywhere else, for that matter. He was a suck ass governor.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 11:48 AM (bb5+k)

35 I will support him if he runs,  but ONLY if he chooses   Sly Stallone as a running mate.

Posted by: Roy at October 18, 2013 11:48 AM (VndSC)

36 You know why he wants to be president, right?  So he can prepare to fly on the presidential helicopter, and say "get to da choppah".

Posted by: pep at October 18, 2013 11:48 AM (6TB1Z)

37 EC _ Damnit...., I was seconds too slow..., again.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 11:48 AM (aDwsi)

38 Schwarzenegger didnÂ’t know how to fight to win; and more importantly, he didnÂ’t know how to pick himself up after losing.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 18, 2013 11:48 AM (QF8uk)

39 @28
Damn.  Beat me.

Posted by: pep at October 18, 2013 11:48 AM (6TB1Z)

40 Ha.  Ahhnold has a movie coming out today.. that, and that alone, is the only reason behind "rumors" (AKA press releases) of a presidential run.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 18, 2013 11:48 AM (f9c2L)

41 If we're going to bend a constitutional requirement, I say we bend the age requirement and elect Bieber.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 18, 2013 11:49 AM (Hx5uv)

42 what about sylvester stalone? can he have a job?

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 18, 2013 11:49 AM (8JJ6O)

43

Afta Ah-nold, we, the Dems, have a supah-majority


Posted by: California Legislature at October 18, 2013 11:49 AM (Pr6hk)

44

he is Christie with less back stabbing and more love children

 

no thanks

Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 11:49 AM (zOTsN)

45 At this point, I would prefer Cuban Father, Canadian born Ted Cruz over anyone else I see on the potential field. I'm not far from preferring Putin.

Posted by: toby928© at October 18, 2013 11:49 AM (QupBk)

46 A five-part front page series on Arnold squeezing some chick's boob in an elevator 30 years ago says he's unelectable.

Posted by: The Los Angeles Times at October 18, 2013 11:49 AM (8ZskC)

47 No, he won't be back. Goodbye, good luck, and good night. Interest in Schwarzenegger as President? Zero. point. Zero. He's a New Frontier Kennedy. That's what he is.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at October 18, 2013 11:49 AM (RFeQD)

48 Those of y'all not in California should be made aware of the one word rebuttal to an Arnie presidency. AB-32 http://www.cga.ct.gov/2006/rpt/2006-R-0798.htm

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at October 18, 2013 11:49 AM (93zXY)

49 danny devito?

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at October 18, 2013 11:50 AM (8JJ6O)

50 If we're going to bend a constitutional requirement, I say we bend the age requirement and elect Bieber.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 18, 2013 03:49 PM (Hx5uv)

Couldn't make things any worse.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 18, 2013 11:50 AM (fwARV)

51 Gosh, it's like the criteria for being president so long and complicated we  really do need to strike a couple of 'em in order to get in some quality candidates. I mean, two criteria is ridiculous. Maybe we should just eliminate the age one, too you guys.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 18, 2013 11:50 AM (JRmiD)

52 I would also object because I don't want Skeletor for the First Lady.  She'd frighten the children.

Posted by: pep at October 18, 2013 11:50 AM (6TB1Z)

53 Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to run for president, and he wants either an Amendment to the Constitution to permit this, or he wants to attempt a legal challenge to a clear and unchallengeable statement in the Constitution. Jesus facepalm.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2013 11:50 AM (b1/nQ)

54 >>> First, as Abraham Lincoln said of Ulysses Grant, “He fights.” Schwarzenegger’s time in office has been marked by almost constant public struggles with teachers, prison guards, nurses, and walk-on players like the preening Senate President Pro Tem Darrell

Bullshit. He went head to head with the nurses at the beginning of the term, got bitchsmacked, and was a flinching little quim thereafter.

Posted by: Xander Crews at October 18, 2013 11:50 AM (Aufi/)

55 Run for senator, Arnold.

Posted by: t-bird at October 18, 2013 11:50 AM (FcR7P)

56 But if we're talking action heroes, I nominate Chuck Norris for Secretary of State! Posted by: RondinellaMamma at October 18, 2013 03:47 PM (EJ/Tn) As William F Buckley said, he'd rather have the first 535 people picked from a telephone book. (I wouldn't use the Boston Phone book.) At this point, anyone who wants it, ought to be disqualified.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 11:50 AM (bb5+k)

57 I understand that Obama issued  an executive order that made it illegal to speak Austrian in the White House.  That may pose a problem.

Posted by: Roy at October 18, 2013 11:50 AM (VndSC)

58 Being a health 'nut' I've followed Arnold from his early 'Muscle and Fitness' days. He married into the Kennedy family, then tried to toe a razor thin line with no success. But his early days of steroid use are gonna catch up to him any minute. I have him on next years death watch list.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 18, 2013 11:50 AM (U2UQk)

59 OK, when is Roberts going to drop in and say, "It's a tax!!"?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 18, 2013 11:50 AM (JRmiD)

60 Netanyahu.

Posted by: well, if we're going to waive the rules at October 18, 2013 11:50 AM (+I+jK)

61 No. Next.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)--also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at October 18, 2013 11:50 AM (659DL)

62 he's trump with less money and ex wives

Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 11:51 AM (zOTsN)

63 So who, apart from Schwarzenegger, seriously entertains this idea, apart from Michael Bloomberg? Piers Morgan?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 18, 2013 11:51 AM (IXrOn)

64 Although I honestly believe Auhnold's shriveled old left nut would be a better Potus than what we have now.

Posted by: maddogg at October 18, 2013 11:51 AM (xWW96)

65 If we're going to bend a constitutional requirement, I say we bend the age requirement and elect Bieber.

Biebs is Canadian.

(This is what happens when you don't take acts of war like Celine Dion seriously.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 18, 2013 11:51 AM (/kI1Q)

66 Hawkins1701 at October 18, 2013 03:49 PM (93zXY) Yea, he is a pretty big warmist, isn't he?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2013 11:51 AM (g1DWB)

67 And he will blame the headwinds on.....wait for it.... The Tea Party. I thinks I smells somethin'.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at October 18, 2013 11:51 AM (RFeQD)

68 How about Beast Master?

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at October 18, 2013 11:51 AM (a6O1A)

69 But if we're talking action heroes, I nominate Chuck Norris for Secretary of State! SecDef.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2013 11:51 AM (b1/nQ)

70 I'm not far from preferring Putin. Posted by: toby928© at October 18, 2013 03:49 PM (QupBk) Could he do worse? (Russian loyalty and all.) Someone like Putin on our side? Hell yes!

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 11:51 AM (bb5+k)

71 Okay Humana. You got what you wanted! Now give those people coverage!

Posted by: President Quade at October 18, 2013 11:51 AM (QupBk)

72 Bullshit. He went head to head with the nurses at the beginning of the term, got bitchsmacked, and was a flinching little quim thereafter.


Yep.  I watched Arnold as governor go from a tough-talking action figure to a miserable tire track.  He's awful.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2013 11:52 AM (8ZskC)

73 I will support him if he runs, but ONLY if he chooses Sly Stallone as a running mate. Posted by: Roy
............
I wanna see him and Sly jump out of a chopper on the WH lawn, with guns blazing.. and they don't stop until they clear all of Obama's aides out of the White House.

An army general will run up to Arnold and say "There's 228 casualties, Mr. President".

Arnold will roll his cigar around in his mouth and say "It's a start"

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 18, 2013 11:52 AM (f9c2L)

74 Hear me now, believe me later, but make note of it at the present!

I want to run *clap* for President!!!


Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 11:52 AM (doBIb)

75 Ok...., is it so much more bizarre that Arnold should run than the Drunk Uncle? Note that I don't think that either is rational..., just equally bizarre. Personally, I'm thinking of sending Joe money and heartfelt encouraging letters. I consider the price of admission for a great show. If Joe actually does run, he will get the same treatment that Hillary received in 2008, and be swept aside...., but it would fun to watch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 11:52 AM (aDwsi)

76 If we're going to bend a constitutional requirement, I say we bend the age requirement and elect Bieber. Why stop there?

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at October 18, 2013 11:52 AM (QF8uk)

77 Kuato for Vep!

Posted by: President Quade at October 18, 2013 11:52 AM (QupBk)

78 Senate tho?  Or would he be another vote in the McCain delegation

Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 11:52 AM (zOTsN)

79 If you thought there was dirty foreign money leveraging our elections, now, just think of what this would do.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 18, 2013 11:53 AM (IXrOn)

80 If we're going to bend a constitutional requirement, I say we bend the age requirement and elect Bieber. Biebs is Canadian. (This is what happens when you don't take acts of war like Celine Dion seriously.) Very well played!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2013 11:53 AM (b1/nQ)

81 Arnold, what is best in life?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2013 11:53 AM (g1DWB)

82 Tanned, rested and ready, bitches.  Say hello to your next VP.

Posted by: Jean-Claude Van Damme at October 18, 2013 11:53 AM (SY2Kh)

83 I remember the last time they let an Austrian lead a foreign country. It didn't work out well.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 18, 2013 11:53 AM (Hx5uv)

84

But his early days of steroid use are gonna catch up to him any minute. I have him on next years death watch list.

 

He's already had a heart valve replaced. I bet his balls are the size of BBs.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at October 18, 2013 11:53 AM (0HooB)

85 60 Netanyahu. Posted by: well, if we're going to waive the rules at October 18, 2013 03:50 P YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Irighttherewith'ya at October 18, 2013 11:53 AM (EJ/Tn)

86 Governor he aint, but Senator?

Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 11:53 AM (zOTsN)

87
I have completed my task in Kaleefownya and I am mah-ching to Waushintun. Heah, take mah hand.

Posted by: Arnold Schwarzenegger at October 18, 2013 11:53 AM (OZmbA)

88 But his early days of steroid use are gonna catch up to him any minute. I have him on next years death watch list.
..........
He's already had heart problems.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 18, 2013 11:53 AM (f9c2L)

89 I remember back in the early days of Jennifer Granholm's governorship there was actually talk of  tweaking that requirement because it would be a shame for us to miss the opportunity to vote her into the Oval Office just because she was born in Canada. Silly, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 18, 2013 11:54 AM (JRmiD)

90 But his early days of steroid use are gonna catch up to him any minute. I have him on next years death watch list. Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 18, 2013 03:50 PM (U2UQk) Seen some not very encouraging pictures of him sometime back, but you really think he might die in the next few years?

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 11:54 AM (bb5+k)

91 Right turn, Clyde.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at October 18, 2013 11:54 AM (0HooB)

92

Alright, now things have gone surreal.  I am no longer capable of rational thought and reasonable response.

 

*brrrzzzzzzzt*

 

*Default Setting:  Slay All Humans....*

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet is the Home of the Hostile Takeover at October 18, 2013 11:54 AM (hLRSq)

93

So Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio's eligibility would automatically be moot points, right?

 

Right?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at October 18, 2013 11:54 AM (PZ6/M)

94 Because he did such a bang up job in commiefornia.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 18, 2013 11:54 AM (xmcEQ)

95 Yep. I watched Arnold as governor go from a tough-talking action figure to a miserable tire track. He's awful. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2013 03:52 PM (8ZskC) His Kennedy wife won over his mind and actions.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 18, 2013 11:54 AM (IXrOn)

96 I remember back in the early days of Jennifer Granholm's governorship



She was quite a little pointy elbow'ed thing back in her younger days. 

I would have hit it!


Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 11:54 AM (doBIb)

97 I remember the last time they let an Austrian lead a foreign country. It didn't work out well.


One bad idea and nobody ever lets you forget it.

Posted by: A. Hitler at October 18, 2013 11:55 AM (8ZskC)

98 if he were in the senate he wouldn't have executive control of anything (which is good), but I suspect he would vote with the dems as often as the conservatives

Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 11:55 AM (zOTsN)

99 OK, to be fair, he sponsored a couple of ballot initiatives in his first year as governor that might actually have turned the state around by limiting the power of public employee unions.  However, they failed hugely, and it was all downhill after that.  He never had the guts for a real fight thereafter, and the best you could say is that his governorship represented a six or seven year holding action against the worst depravities of the progressives.

The People's Republic of Kalifornia has since gone on to permanent one-party rule by the Democrats, and the last stop on that line is Detroit with palm trees.

Posted by: mongo78 at October 18, 2013 11:55 AM (t+Qw5)

100 I live in Commiefornia. I remember der Groppenfuhrer as our Governor.

Here's my executive summary of reaction to the idea of swearing in Presidentinator Ahnold.

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. NO.

The one that still really rankles me is his attempted ban on ordering ammo from out of state. Expensive legal counsel told him it was unconstitutional and it was going to get slapped down in the courts. He did it anyway. It got slapped down in the courts. An unnecessary and costly piece of left-wing political theater. Nasty piece of work, that man.

Oh, and if you love expensive "green" energy, you'll absolutely adore Ahnold.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 18, 2013 11:55 AM (gqT4g)

101

Tony Montana.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at October 18, 2013 11:55 AM (a6O1A)

102 President Schwarzmahneggah was one of the Founding Fathers of dis beyotch!


Posted by: President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho at October 18, 2013 11:55 AM (5ikDv)

103 60 Netanyahu. Posted by: well, if we're going to waive the rules at October 18, 2013 03:50 PM (+I+jK) Only man I ever saw kick Ted Koppel's ass on his own program. Very impressed with Bibi at the time. (1979)

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 11:55 AM (bb5+k)

104 "Vote for me, if you want to live..."


Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 11:55 AM (doBIb)

105
Who is youah Daddy and what does he doo?

Posted by: Arnold Schwarzenegger at October 18, 2013 11:55 AM (OZmbA)

106 Arnold, what is best in life? To crush the Dems, Salt their lands, & hear the lamentations of their bitchez!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2013 11:55 AM (b1/nQ)

107 You can in fact do better than Putin when picking foreign leaders.

Bibi 2016.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 18, 2013 11:56 AM (B/VB5)

108 The science is in. The facts are there that we have created, man has, a self-inflicted wound that man has created through global warming. The Arnold

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2013 11:56 AM (g1DWB)

109 It looks like the 1st Tuesday in November 2016 I will be riffing a basketball game & not going to the polls.

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 18, 2013 11:56 AM (HVff2)

110

Two words:

 

Clint Eastwood.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at October 18, 2013 11:56 AM (0HooB)

111

>>>To crush the Dems,
Salt their lands,
& hear the lamentations
of their bitchez!<<<

 

 

 

...on every damn lefty website comment board.

Posted by: Roy at October 18, 2013 11:56 AM (VndSC)

112 Wait....


What about Robocop?

Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 11:56 AM (doBIb)

113
As William F Buckley said, he'd rather have the first 535 people picked from a telephone book. (I wouldn't use the Boston Phone book.)
---

Iowahawk brings the funny. He says to save money we ought to hire 535 illegal aliens.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 18, 2013 11:56 AM (Hx5uv)

114 He's a warmerist?

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at October 18, 2013 11:56 AM (a6O1A)

115 IIRC, at Maria's urging he hired on Gray Davis' chief of staff and maybe some other Lefty cronies and it all went downhill from there.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 18, 2013 11:57 AM (JRmiD)

116 Biebs is Canadian. (This is what happens when you don't take acts of war like Celine Dion seriously.) Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 18, 2013 03:51 PM (/kI1Q) Cruz is Cuban, Canadian and American (by statute.) Still rather have him than Obama. Hell, even Justin Bieber couldn't make such a mess.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 11:57 AM (bb5+k)

117 Talk about life imitating art. This was a plot point in "Last Action Hero."

Posted by: Jack Slater at October 18, 2013 11:57 AM (i96FB)

118 But his early days of steroid use are gonna catch up to him any minute. I have him on next years death watch list. What's the over/under line & buy in?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2013 11:57 AM (b1/nQ)

119 I don't how to speak any Austrian

Posted by: JEF at October 18, 2013 11:57 AM (nCSwS)

120 Speaking of CA politics, whatever happened to McClintock? He was my pick for gov during the recall, but I fled the state shortly thereafter.

Posted by: Xander Crews at October 18, 2013 11:57 AM (Aufi/)

121 You can in fact do better than Putin when picking foreign leaders. Bibi 2016. John Howard. Still alive.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)--also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at October 18, 2013 11:57 AM (659DL)

122 I'm Lutheran but I would vote for Bibi 3 or 4 times. & here you all thought I was Zionist, ha

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 18, 2013 11:58 AM (HVff2)

123 He'll be President after the passage of the 61st Amendment.

Posted by: Lieutenant Lenina Huxley at October 18, 2013 11:58 AM (X866z)

124 "OK, to be fair, he sponsored a couple of ballot initiatives in his first year as governor that might actually have turned the state around by limiting the power of public employee unions."

He also backed a redistricting/reapportionment arrangement run by a "citizens' panel" that he said would bring fresh new balance to Commiefornia politics.

Instead, the liberals gamed the fuck out of the system and ended up with an arrangement even more unbalanced than before, in their favor. Getting them finally to their goal of a supermajority in the Legislature which lets them raise taxes ad infinitum.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 18, 2013 11:58 AM (gqT4g)

125 If this happens than the Demolition Man prophecy will be 100% accurate.

Posted by: Pezman at October 18, 2013 11:58 AM (lP8dE)

126 Wait.... What about Robocop? Weller is oooooold.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2013 11:58 AM (b1/nQ)

127 Schwartenegger was a success as governor for one reason only: He wasn't Gray Davis. Gray Davis, the guy who was kicked out in the recall that precipitated the Swartzenegger/Huffington race, who not only a liberal fool, and not only an impotent quimby, but most importantly he bankrupted the state because some dudes at Enron literally punked him with a high-chool-level prank. Davis fell for it like a ton of bricks. It was unreal. Schwatzenegger was middling at best, but BY GOD "middling" was like a miracle compared to the ruinous incompetence of Davis.

Posted by: zombie at October 18, 2013 11:58 AM (+cx5n)

128 Lindsay Graham 2016. He's the only candidate moderate enough to win.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at October 18, 2013 11:58 AM (a6O1A)

129

he is like Christie, a devotee of global warming, socially lib, compassionate not so conservative who dislike unions but ultimately does not do much about it other than raise the issue

 

in either case, no one's taxes went down and neither did spending

Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 11:58 AM (zOTsN)

130 Right turn, Clyde. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i98QrSSHxo4 Clyde knows the best way to make a right turn in Congress.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at October 18, 2013 11:58 AM (QF8uk)

131 Arnie?? Why not? He's already out of the closet on roids, drugs, maids, Kennedy's.  Loved him in the movie Twins with the short guy and the hot blonds. And we can have four years of lame accents and Conan the Barbarian references.

Lam-en-tations!!!


It'll be a hoot.




 
 

Posted by: dananjcon at October 18, 2013 11:59 AM (wmU4G)

132

 "Scandals are no longer automatically disqualifying in candidates..."

If you're a Democrat.

Posted by: MLCross at October 18, 2013 11:59 AM (taib7)

133 >>I'm Lutheran but I would vote for Bibi 3 or 4 times. & here you all thought I was Zionist, ha I actually got to meet, speak and kick a soccer ball with Bibi. Nice guy. Not pretentious at all. At least he wasn't toward this moron.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2013 11:59 AM (g1DWB)

134 Arnold could have an AMAZING GOTV campaign.  He could record a list of hundred common names and then robocall people:


"Are you [so and so]?"


Maybe scare them into showing up at the polls...

Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:00 PM (doBIb)

135 Ahnuld battled the unions, got his ass kicked in 2005

After that, he had no stomach for a fight

He's a fighter alright, as long as the victory is in the script somewhere

Posted by: kbdabear at October 18, 2013 12:00 PM (aTXUx)

136 Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at October 18, 2013 03:58 PM (a6O1A) Surely you jest?

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 18, 2013 12:00 PM (HVff2)

137 Shoot, I got my own movie wrong. Demolition Man ... Schmemolition Man.

Posted by: Jack Slater at October 18, 2013 12:00 PM (i96FB)

138 Stehhhhhllahhhhhh! I'll never stop saying "Maria"

Posted by: Arnie Black Harrow-Plunder at October 18, 2013 12:00 PM (MhA4j)

139 Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to run for president, and... Yeah, because he such a bang-up job with California. Forget it. He's just another RINO phony. His signing of AB32 was the clincher.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 18, 2013 12:00 PM (/IXKu)

140 ...on every damn lefty website comment board. Posted by: Roy --------------------- Heh. Posted a link on Huff Po the other day, pointing out that Obama's are higher than the Tea Party negatives. The reaction was immediate, and vitriolic. Spitting, spluttering, name-calling, etc......, but *no* counter facts or data. One guy called me 'a liar'. I posted a note offering a $10,000 dollar wager on the fact, and was called "lame and pathetic"...., but no one took the wager.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 12:01 PM (aDwsi)

141 Ahnuld.. your political career has been ..ERASED!

Posted by: kbdabear at October 18, 2013 12:01 PM (aTXUx)

142 Milton "Freeman"???  I'm unfamiliar with his work.

Posted by: Dudley Smith at October 18, 2013 12:01 PM (q0qbd)

143 I can forgive soccer, sort of

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 18, 2013 12:01 PM (HVff2)

144 He should run for vice-president!

Posted by: Norcross at October 18, 2013 12:01 PM (tmDTL)

145 132
"Scandals are no longer automatically disqualifying in candidates..."
If you're a Democrat.

Posted by: MLCross at October 18, 2013 03:59 PM (taib7)



Ahhh, the John Edwards Rule.  Republicans are hypocrites if they sin. Democrats get points for it.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 18, 2013 12:01 PM (OZmbA)

146 I vill tell ze Democrat girly men to CHILL, and I'll put their agenda ON ICE!

Posted by: Mr. Freeze at October 18, 2013 12:01 PM (W7ffl)

147 Ooooops "..., pointing out that Obama's negatives are higher..."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 12:01 PM (aDwsi)

148 If he can win the Dem nomination he should go for it.

Posted by: DaveA at October 18, 2013 12:01 PM (DL2i+)

149 The thing is, amending this particular constitutional provision is something that should be looked at on its own merits, regardless of the merits of any particular individual who might choose to run in the near future if there's an amendment.

If there's a principled 21st century reason for keeping the current ban on naturalized citizens that goes beyond "I don't like Arnold Schwarzenegger," I have yet to see it.

I don't think anybody, even in the tinfoil hat crowds, is thinking about the original reasoning any more - the notion that somehow via English skullduggery, the 34th Baron of Squatney could get installed as President, and then somehow legally transfer the country back over to King George.  (Heck, that was pretty much tinfoil hat stuff in the 18th century, too, though maybe some caution was warranted at the time.)

Posted by: Suzanne de Nimes at October 18, 2013 12:01 PM (JpC1K)

150 @JackStraw 66 Yea, he is a pretty big warmist, isn't he? Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2013 03:51 PM (g1DWB) Yep. And Cali's economy will be suffering due to that mess for years. (Although, to be fair to Arnie, we had the chance via ballot initiative to suspend the law until unemployment was back below 6%....and we did not do it. I don't think Cali's employment picture will EVER remotely be that good again.)

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at October 18, 2013 12:01 PM (93zXY)

151

@110

 

I'll sign on for that.

 

Fuck it, if he's busy or thinks he's too old, we should see if the chair is available.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 18, 2013 12:02 PM (t06LC)

152 Your votes....give them to me....NOW!!!



Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:02 PM (doBIb)

153 Is he a hugger?

Posted by: Chaos, it the other dark meat at October 18, 2013 12:02 PM (oDCMR)

154 "Speaking of CA politics, whatever happened to McClintock? He was my pick for gov during the recall, but I fled the state shortly thereafter."

McClintock is still in politics. He's a great, solid guy. I don't know if he could possibly have won a statewide race, but I voted for him at recall time. (I spotted der Groppenfuhrer as a phony instantly.)

McClintock wrote a wonderful piece about the insane price tag of public education in Commiefornia, last I looked running at about $12,000.00 per pupil per year, and added up how much amazing shit that figure should buy if it wasn't all being siphoned off into the accounts of union cronies.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 18, 2013 12:02 PM (gqT4g)

155 When I speak of The Peter Principle I am not talking about Arnold and his Maid

Posted by: Tommy Atkins at October 18, 2013 12:02 PM (yuTiW)

156 Never mind the particulars of Ahhnold as POTUS.

The National flouting of so clearly worded a Constitutional requirement would mean the end of the US Constitution as a meaningful restriction on anything.

Cafeteria Constitutionalism and the Republic is over.

Posted by: ThomasD at October 18, 2013 12:02 PM (FA+FN)

157 Scandals are resume enhancers for Democrats. It means that you are clever, and 'smart'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 12:03 PM (aDwsi)

158 Hey, Ace, it's Milton Friedman, not Freeman. Milton Freeman played God in Bruce Almighty.

Posted by: Eddie Willers at October 18, 2013 12:03 PM (bRdb3)

159 He'd slay 'em at the debates. Moderator: Anhald, it's been reported that you have had some issues with women. What do you say to that? Anhald: Fuck you, asshole.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2013 12:03 PM (g1DWB)

160 If there's a principled 21st century reason for keeping the current ban on naturalized citizens that goes beyond "I don't like Arnold Schwarzenegger," I have yet to see it.


Hi there.

Posted by: Soros at October 18, 2013 12:03 PM (5ikDv)

161 148 If he can win the Dem nomination he should go for it. Posted by: DaveA at October 18, 2013 04:01 PM (DL2i+) =+

Posted by: Arnie Black Harrow-Plunder at October 18, 2013 12:03 PM (MhA4j)

162 He did the intro the the Milton Friedman "Free to Choose" videos. Then governed California like a half-hearted socialist. stick with the movies!

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at October 18, 2013 12:03 PM (83xuc)

163 134 Arnold could have an AMAZING GOTV campaign. He could record a list of hundred common names and then robocall people: "Are you [so and so]?" Maybe scare them into showing up at the polls... Posted by: EC You have heard the series of classic "Arnold" prank calls, right? No one in America would take a phone call from Arnold seriously again, after that. "I'm a cop, you idiot!!"

Posted by: zombie at October 18, 2013 12:04 PM (+cx5n)

164 Here's McClintock's semi-satirical paper on public edumacation.

It's brilliant. This guy deserves a higher profile.

www.tommcclintock.com/articles/a-modest-proposal-for-saving-our-schools

Posted by: torquewrench at October 18, 2013 12:04 PM (gqT4g)

165 Touché 160

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at October 18, 2013 12:04 PM (HVff2)

166 Ugh.

Posted by: zombie at October 18, 2013 12:04 PM (+cx5n)

167 Batman Forever should disqualify Arnold from any elective office.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2013 12:04 PM (8ZskC)

168 >>> I don't think anybody, even in the tinfoil hat crowds, is thinking about the original reasoning any more - the notion that somehow via English skullduggery, the 34th Baron of Squatney could get installed as President, and then somehow legally transfer the country back over to King George.

I could be persuaded by Anna Chapman to vote for her.

Posted by: Xander Crews at October 18, 2013 12:04 PM (Aufi/)

169 One guy called me 'a liar'. I posted a note offering a $10,000 dollar wager on the fact, and was called "lame and pathetic"...., but no one took the wager. Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 04:01 PM

Speaking of wager, bet which will be longer ..

1. The script to "Escape Plan"
2. Jeff B's explanation of why Arnold is the perfect man to run in 2016

Posted by: kbdabear at October 18, 2013 12:04 PM (aTXUx)

170 Weller is oooooold.

He was the bad general (Marcus) in the recent Star Trek movie.  He also did a HC series about Romans and such.  It was pretty good.  He's a sort of prof at Syracuse and is working on a PhD.  He's a multidimensional kind of guy. 

Posted by: pep at October 18, 2013 12:04 PM (6TB1Z)

171 83 I remember the last time they let an Austrian lead a foreign country. It didn't work out well. Ouch!!

Posted by: Tommy Atkins at October 18, 2013 12:05 PM (yuTiW)

172 158 Hey, Ace, it's Milton Friedman, not Freeman. Milton Freeman played God in Bruce Almighty.

Posted by: Eddie Willers at October 18, 2013 04:03 PM (bRdb3)



That was Milton Bradley

Posted by: Sphynx at October 18, 2013 12:05 PM (OZmbA)

173 He was the bad general (Marcus) in the recent Star Trek movie. He also did a HC series about Romans and such. It was pretty good. He's a sort of prof at Syracuse and is working on a PhD. He's a multidimensional kind of guy.


I think he's also a lefty.

Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:05 PM (doBIb)

174 164 Here's McClintock's semi-satirical paper on public edumacation. It's brilliant. This guy deserves a higher profile. www.tommcclintock.com/articles/a-modest-proposal-for-saving-our-schools Posted by: torquewrench Tom McClintock!!! I voted for that guy.] for governor The first conservative I EVER voted for!

Posted by: zombie at October 18, 2013 12:05 PM (+cx5n)

175 Hey, Ace, it's Milton Friedman, not Freeman. Milton Freeman played God in Bruce Almighty.


Wait. I thought that was Morgan Fairchild.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2013 12:05 PM (8ZskC)

176 All of the stuff talked about in the Reason article was from his first term, no? First term, not bad. Second term? Abject failure. Also, what's up with the assertion of limiting the growth of government? How is that quantified, or even known? Isn't that sort of like saying that Obama's stimulus saved jobs? How do you know?!?

Posted by: gm at October 18, 2013 12:05 PM (/kBoL)

177 If there's a principled 21st century reason for keeping the current ban on naturalized citizens that goes beyond "I don't like Arnold Schwarzenegger," I have yet to see it. Posted by: Suzanne de Nimes at October 18, 2013 04:01 PM (JpC1K) The current occupant of the Whitehouse is the prime example of what happens when you allow someone of divided loyalty to control the reins of power in our Country. By the Standards of 1787, Barack Obama would have been considered a Foreigner. Not speculation. Have historical examples to demonstrate it.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 12:05 PM (bb5+k)

178 Arnold would be a stunningly poor candidate. Yet it is worth nothing that he would have been a modest improvement over Romney or Mccain. At least Arnold had some principles he would fight for. At least he wasn't totally afraid of negative press.

Posted by: bigggggles at October 18, 2013 12:05 PM (0a/7L)

179 Nice night for an election, eh?



Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:06 PM (doBIb)

180 >>I can forgive soccer, sort of Well to be fair we were at a business trade fair and some company was giving out soccer balls as a promotion so we were just kicking the thing around when he came over to talk and kicked the ball around with us for a while. His security dudes didn't look to pleased.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2013 12:06 PM (g1DWB)

181 Hey, Ace, it's Milton Friedman, not Freeman. Milton Freeman played God in Bruce Almighty. Posted by: Eddie Willers at October 18, 2013 04:03 PM (bRdb3) That was Milton Bradley Posted by: Sphynx at October 18, 2013 04:05 PM (OZmbA) Milton Berle played God in Oh, God.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)--also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at October 18, 2013 12:06 PM (659DL)

182 Ahnuld can fuhgetabouddit.

Now, Mickey Rourke for Pres? Hell, yes!

Nobody fucks with the crazy guy.

Posted by: West at October 18, 2013 12:07 PM (1Rgee)

183 He was the bad general (Marcus) in the recent Star Trek movie. He also did a HC series about Romans and such. It was pretty good. He's a sort of prof at Syracuse and is working on a PhD. He's a multidimensional kind of guy.
---

He did a series on architecture and uit was quite good.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 18, 2013 12:07 PM (Hx5uv)

184 " New-York, 25th July, 1787. Dear Sir, Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of foreigners into the administration of our national government ; and to declare expressly that the command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on any but a natural born citizen. I remain, dear sir, Your faithful friend and servant, John Jay. " Letter to George Washington which created the Natural born citizen requirement.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 12:07 PM (bb5+k)

185

Schwarzenegger is like a mail order bride.  The promise of the thing, and the allure of the unknown might be attractive, at first.

 

But after the bride gets here, and  she's 75 lbs. overweight, and has a nasty personality to boot, she kind of loses her appeal.

 

Schwarzenegger, if he ever entertained notions of being President, should have NEVER gotten himself elected Governor.  We already know he's a porker. 

Posted by: BurtTC at October 18, 2013 12:07 PM (TOk1P)

186 Milton Berle played God in Oh, God.

The hell he did.

Posted by: Milton Burns at October 18, 2013 12:08 PM (8ZskC)

187 Milton Berle played God in Oh, God.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)--also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at October 18, 2013 04:06 PM (659DL)


That was "Oh, God, Orgasm 2"

Posted by: Sphynx at October 18, 2013 12:08 PM (OZmbA)

188 Why doesn't he ask Obama for a waiver from that provision in the Constitution?

Posted by: Z as in Jersey at October 18, 2013 12:08 PM (A1UEK)

189 Ugh. Always put a [ / i ] without spaces in your nic. Either you already know this or someone else 'inoculated' you because they do it. In two more weeks we've been promised a software upgrade, but unfortunately the Canadian programmers are involved with some American health care site.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 18, 2013 12:08 PM (U2UQk)

190 Wait. I thought that was Morgan Fairchild. Posted by: Cicero ---------------- Morgan Freeman, damnit.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 12:08 PM (aDwsi)

191 Milton Berle played God in Oh, God.

The hell he did.

Posted by: Milton Burns at October 18, 2013 04:08 PM (8ZskC)



Uhhh...George Burns?


Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:08 PM (doBIb)

192 >>f there's a principled 21st century reason for keeping the current ban
on naturalized citizens that goes beyond "I don't like Arnold
Schwarzenegger," I have yet to see it.

I think Obama is a good demonstration of the risks of doing this. No, I'm not going all birther, it's just that given where and how he was raised he is the least American president by a long shot. He does not believe in American exceptionalism, he does not see himself as the leader or representative of all citizens, and he sure as hell got elected using foreign donations (whose impact to his policy decisions we may or may not eventually determine). And look who is his closed aide: Valerie Jarrett, who was raised in Iran.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 18, 2013 12:08 PM (JRmiD)

193 159 He'd slay 'em at the debates.

Moderator: Anhald, it's been reported that you have had some issues with women. What do you say to that?

Anhald: Fuck you, asshole. Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2013 04:03 PM

I watched the debates for the Recall 10 years ago and the only reason Ahnuld didn't look like a tackling dummy was the presence of babbling idiot Arianna Huffington and potted plant Cruz BustaMechha

Tom McClintock and Green Party candidate Peter Camejo looked like the only two who actually studied for the test

Posted by: kbdabear at October 18, 2013 12:08 PM (aTXUx)

194 He also backed a redistricting/reapportionment arrangement run by a "citizens' panel" that he said would bring fresh new balance to Commiefornia politics. Instead, the liberals gamed the fuck out of the system and ended up with an arrangement even more unbalanced than before, in their favor. Getting them finally to their goal of a supermajority in the Legislature which lets them raise taxes ad infinitum. This is exactly why I am against an Article V convention. The only people allowed in the room will be Harvard educated NE lawyers. At least right now we still have 2nd Amendment protections.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 18, 2013 12:08 PM (sByIH)

195 #172: No, Milton Bradley was that famous Spartan warcry. You know the one... "You want our spears? Milton Bradley!"

Posted by: Eddie Willers at October 18, 2013 12:08 PM (bRdb3)

196 Arney should stick to making movies.  Someone should tell him  that he's in a good position to make movies that depict America's exceptional goodness.  It's sacrifices for freedom.   Perhaps make a  movie about a  communist agitator becoming president and the ensuing battle for freedom.

Posted by: Soona at October 18, 2013 12:08 PM (3Mz5/)

197 If there's a principled 21st century reason for keeping the current ban on naturalized citizens I have yet to see it. = keeping the current ban? Natural Born v. Naturalized citizen "Yet to see"...The blind aren't missing anything given no vision.

Posted by: Arnie Black Harrow-Plunder at October 18, 2013 12:09 PM (MhA4j)

198 NFW. Arnold folded on every issue that really mattered and even took the wrong side on some.

It was too much to hope for but I wanted to see some uber liberal legislators' heads on pike outside the Statehouse. There isn't much else that would reverse the death spiral my lifelong home is in.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 18, 2013 12:09 PM (kcfmt)

199 GET YOUR ASS TO THE POLLS!!!



Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:09 PM (doBIb)

200 I'd vote for Howard Stern. It would be hilarious to watch him throw slices of baloney at Angela Merkel's ass.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 18, 2013 12:09 PM (+lsX1)

201 I think he's also a lefty.

I find that unlikely.  He's in Hollywood, after all.

Posted by: pep at October 18, 2013 12:09 PM (6TB1Z)

202 >>>He was the bad general (Marcus) in the recent Star Trek movie. He also
did a HC series about Romans and such. It was pretty good. He's a sort
of prof at Syracuse and is working on a PhD. He's a multidimensional
kind of guy.
---
He did a series on architecture and uit was quite good.<<<


He's probably busy. He's on Sons of Anarchy now, playing a dirty cop and banging hookers.

Posted by: well, if we're going to waive the rules at October 18, 2013 12:09 PM (+I+jK)

203 191 Milton Berle played God in Oh, God.

The hell he did.


Posted by: Milton Burns at October 18, 2013 04:08 PM (8ZskC)


Uhhh...George Burns?
Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 04:08 PM

WRONG !!!!

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at October 18, 2013 12:09 PM (aTXUx)

204 The National flouting of so clearly worded a Constitutional requirement would mean the end of the US Constitution as a meaningful restriction on anything. Cafeteria Constitutionalism and the Republic is over. Posted by: ThomasD at October 18, 2013 04:02 PM (FA+FN) We are there now. Did you know the 14th amendment created a right to abortion?

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 12:09 PM (bb5+k)

205

Shit, let's get Nick Searcy or James Woods or some real conservative actor to run.  The only attraction to Arnold as a candidate is his pop-culture appeal and we could get that with someone else that is actually an American and actually a conservative.

 

The only good thing Arnold did was get the execrable Gray Davis out of office.  But that just delayed the inevitable leftist takeover of California. 

Posted by: rockmom at October 18, 2013 12:10 PM (aBlZ1)

206 I find that unlikely. He's in Hollywood, after all.


Oh right, I don't think there are that many there.

Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:10 PM (doBIb)

207 OT

870k Toyotas recalled for spider-related problem


http://tinyurl.com/lra9us7

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 18, 2013 12:10 PM (MnSla)

208

How friggin' retodded. Nobody better even be considering this shit. If there's anything but the faintest of murmurs from the GOP about doing this, I'll fkn stroke out. You make an Arnold run legal, you make it legal for every Pol Pot wanna-be undergrad from the Sorbonne to run.

Posted by: Bigby's Hands Over Fists at October 18, 2013 12:10 PM (3ZtZW)

209 It's about time someone recognized me and my work. That Friedman bastard gets all the credit.

Posted by: Milton Freeman at October 18, 2013 12:10 PM (JwUOg)

210 George Burns you idiots. Jewish with cigar. Milton dressed up like women.

Posted by: Chaos, it the other dark meat at October 18, 2013 12:10 PM (oDCMR)

211 I personally think that 35 years of citizenship should qualify an immigrant american to run for president, just as 35 years of citizenship is required for a native born american. I can't see voting for that hypothetical person, but they should be allowed to run and lose.

Posted by: tail end charlie at October 18, 2013 12:10 PM (c1vW9)

212 196. Soona, he's campaigning in order to sell his next movie production, drumming up his audience. Who knows, the movie could be a documentary of his political campaign.

Posted by: Arnie Black Harrow-Plunder at October 18, 2013 12:10 PM (MhA4j)

213 Uhhh...George Burns? ---------------------------- Ed Burns..., no wait...., Ken Burns. Yeah, that's it, Ken Burns.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 12:11 PM (aDwsi)

214 Posted by: Milton Burns at October 18, 2013 04:08 PM (8ZskC)

Uhhh...George Burns?



Yeah, George Burns, alright.  In hell.

Posted by: Oh God at October 18, 2013 12:11 PM (8ZskC)

215 I remember the last time they let an Austrian lead a foreign country. It didn't work out well. There's always the UN.

Posted by: Kurt Waldheim at October 18, 2013 12:11 PM (FcR7P)

216 He wants to ignore the Constitution? Who does he think he is, me?

Posted by: Lord god King Boofoo at October 18, 2013 12:11 PM (RL/ur)

217 At least Arnold had some principles he would fight for. Until his initiatives got stomped in Congress. After that, he'd be kissing every Democrat ass in sight.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 18, 2013 12:11 PM (/IXKu)

218 WTF??

Posted by: Milton Dennehy at October 18, 2013 12:11 PM (8ZskC)

219

184 -

 

Speaking of Jon Jay, would it kill anybody if he sat tonight?  He's not a great offensive player, even under the best of circumstances.  Against a tough lefty, he's hopeless.  Which would be fine, if his defense was making a difference...

 

Well, I guess it has been making a difference, just not in a positive way.  Put Shane Robinson out there, for pete's sake.  The  guy has one more home run in this series than 23 other guys on the team. 

Posted by: BurtTC at October 18, 2013 12:11 PM (TOk1P)

220 That tears it. Schwarzenneger is a raging steroidal sociopath. This world descends further into madness every day.

Posted by: rrpjr at October 18, 2013 12:12 PM (xRP9Y)

221 I was in the sequel .. "Oh God, the Jews were RIGHT!"

Posted by: Jeff Goldblum at October 18, 2013 12:12 PM (aTXUx)

222 "Lord god King Boofoo"

Totally

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 18, 2013 12:12 PM (MnSla)

223 They could get around the natural born citizen thing with the commerce clause.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at October 18, 2013 12:12 PM (a6O1A)

224 Posted by: Brian Dennehy at October 18, 2013 04:09 PM (aTXUx) hahahaha

Posted by: Arnie Black Harrow-Plunder at October 18, 2013 12:12 PM (MhA4j)

225 I'm still alive you know

Posted by: Milton Vigoda at October 18, 2013 12:13 PM (aTXUx)

226 I like you, Sully.  That's why you'll vote for me last.




Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:13 PM (doBIb)

227 My first car was a Morgan Vigoda.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at October 18, 2013 12:13 PM (8ZskC)

228 He's probably busy. He's on Sons of Anarchy now, playing a dirty cop and banging hookers. At least he's qualified.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2013 12:13 PM (b1/nQ)

229 It takes 2/3rds of both houses and 3/4ths of the legislatures to ratify an Amendment  there Arnold. If you were that flipping popular you wouldn't need to run. You could just announce you were available.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at October 18, 2013 12:14 PM (0q2P7)

230 This is exactly why I am against an Article V convention. The only people allowed in the room will be Harvard educated NE lawyers. At least right now we still have 2nd Amendment protections. Posted by: bonhomme at October 18, 2013 04:08 PM (sByIH) I have ALWAYS been against an Article V convention. The very idea is insane. The Founders were brilliant and competent. Today's statesmen? Ignorant rubes without principles.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 12:14 PM (bb5+k)

231 210 It's about time someone recognized me and my work. That Friedman bastard gets all the credit. Posted by: Milton Freeman at October 18, 2013 04:10 PM

Whose name is on the ending credits?

Posted by: Morgan Friedman at October 18, 2013 12:14 PM (aTXUx)

232 My take on Schwarzenegger as California Governor was that he made proposals to the legislature that would have put California on the road to fiscal sanity and every one of them was rejected by the Democrats who run the California Legislature.  Then he tried to go around the Legislature with those proposals with a set of propositions to the people of California but after a multimilliondollar ad campaign by the government employee unions, the people of California rejected those propositions.  At that point, Schwarzenegger realized that California is hopeless but it is fun to be governor and his wife liked being First Lady of California. 

California is FUBAR and the voters of California consistently vote to keep it that way.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 18, 2013 12:14 PM (q1sF4)

233

>>>That tears it. Schwarzenneger is a raging steroidal sociopath

 

His Kennedy-Skeletor  wife refuses to put out unless he goes for the Presidency. I'd be praising God for that, but to each his own.

Posted by: Bigby's Hands Over Fists at October 18, 2013 12:14 PM (3ZtZW)

234 By the way, he was a shitty gutless governor who cut corrupt crony deals all over the place including getting some democrat kingpin's punk son freed from a murder charge.

Posted by: rrpjr at October 18, 2013 12:15 PM (xRP9Y)

235 >>>Shit, let's get Nick Searcy or James Woods or some real conservative actor to run.

You know who would be great... Fred Thompson.



(seriously though, Searcy would be the shit, he would fight like hell)

Posted by: well, if we're going to waive the rules at October 18, 2013 12:15 PM (+I+jK)

236 From the WaPo article on zero insurance signups in Oregon

conservative comment:

The simple fact of the matter, Ann, is that more people have signed up for a one-way trip to Mars (200,000) than have been able to sign up for health care.

liberal response:

The one-way trip to Mars has been available for longer than 18 days... comparing apples to oranges.

Posted by: you can't make this stuff up at October 18, 2013 12:15 PM (5ikDv)

237 OT, Here's Rick Astley's "rickroll" hit sung in Klingon: http://youtu.be/b0YC3RpvE3M

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at October 18, 2013 12:15 PM (xuaNB)

238 Terminator 45: True Lies

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 18, 2013 12:15 PM (IXrOn)

239 Shit, let's get Nick Searcy or James Woods or some real conservative actor to run.

You know who would be great... Fred Thompson.



(seriously though, Searcy would be the shit, he would fight like hell)

Posted by: well, if we're going to waive the rules at October 18, 2013 04:15 PM (+I+jK)



Hell yeah...he'd got Art Mullen on everyone's ass.



Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:16 PM (doBIb)

240 It's cute that he thinks he's still relevant.

Posted by: eleven at October 18, 2013 12:16 PM (Hy7dS)

241 I wish I could tell you that Ace fought the good fight and that the RINO's let him be. I wish I could say that .. but blogging is no fairy tale world ...

Posted by: Milton Freeman at October 18, 2013 12:17 PM (aTXUx)

242 212 I personally think that 35 years of citizenship should qualify an immigrant american to run for president, just as 35 years of citizenship is required for a native born american. I can't see voting for that hypothetical person, but they should be allowed to run and lose. Posted by: tail end charlie at October 18, 2013 04:10 PM (c1vW9) We don't get to pick and choose which parts of the Constitution we want to enforce. Of course, thanks to Barry, we find out that Nobody can enforce Presidential eligibility requirements. It is a law with no enforcement mechanism apparently.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 12:17 PM (bb5+k)

243

Judas Priest.... really Ah-nold.

We go from McCain ==>Romney==>Schwarzenegger?  Really? Really?

Grant?  More like Rosecrans OR Pope for gosh sakes...

Posted by: odd at October 18, 2013 12:17 PM (kduZC)

244 "225 They could get around the natural born citizen thing with the commerce clause.

Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at October 18, 2013 04:12 PM (a6O1A)"


Either that or the penumbras and emanations clause.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 18, 2013 12:17 PM (q1sF4)

245 199 GET YOUR ASS TO THE POLLS!!!

Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 04:09 PM (doBIb)



I finally got this one.  Total Recall. Heh. Took awhile.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 18, 2013 12:17 PM (OZmbA)

246 The one-way trip to Mars has been available for longer than 18 days... comparing apples to oranges. Posted by: you can't make this stuff up at October 18, 2013 04:15 PM (5ikDv) I'll drink to that! Gotta love 'em. They keep on tryin'.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 18, 2013 12:17 PM (IXrOn)

247 I must break you, high taxes.

Posted by: Dolph Lundgren at October 18, 2013 12:17 PM (SY2Kh)

248 I sense a low-grade hysteria setting in...., insane laughter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 12:17 PM (aDwsi)

249 The simple fact of the matter, Ann, is that more people have signed up for a one-way trip to Mars (200,000) than have been able to sign up for health care.

liberal response:

The one-way trip to Mars has been available for longer than 18 days... comparing apples to oranges.

Posted by: you can't make this stuff up at October 18, 2013 04:15 PM (5ikDv

THAT'S MY CONSERVATIVE COMMENT!!!

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 18, 2013 12:18 PM (fwARV)

250 I finally got this one. Total Recall. Heh. Took awhile.

Posted by: Sphynx at October 18, 2013 04:17 PM (OZmbA)



Really?


I'm dropping all sorts of Arnold one-liners related to him running all over this post!


See if you can find them all!




Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:18 PM (doBIb)

251 I have ALWAYS been against an Article V convention. The very idea is insane. The Founders were brilliant and competent.

Today's statesmen? Ignorant rubes without principles.


Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 04:14 PM (bb5+k)

 

 

------------------------------------------

 

 

I like Levin's ideas,  though.  Let there be a consortium of states holding a Constitutional convention.  Leave the fucking fed out of it.

Posted by: Soona at October 18, 2013 12:18 PM (3Mz5/)

252 Would the real Milton Freeman please stand up?

Posted by: Milton Freeman at October 18, 2013 12:18 PM (JwUOg)

253 >>>Hell yeah...he'd got Art Mullen on everyone's ass.

Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 04:16 PM (doBIb)<<<


Over on Twitchy they've got him taking on libtard wrestling douche Kevin Nash. It's a thing of beauty.

Posted by: well, if we're going to waive the rules at October 18, 2013 12:18 PM (+I+jK)

254 225 They could get around the natural born citizen thing with the commerce clause. Posted by: Boss Moss the Redskin Savage at October 18, 2013 04:12 PM (a6O1A) Wickard v Fillburn. Farmer can't grow wheat to feed his own cows without permission from the Government.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 18, 2013 12:19 PM (bb5+k)

255
OT:  As expected they had previously violated the pretend debt ceiling, they just weren't calculating it.  So it jumped $328 Billion in one day.

Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves they are.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 18, 2013 12:19 PM (N8z9m)

256

>>>We go from McCain ==>Romney==>Schwarzenegger? Really? Really?

 

Really. Let's just be MOAR DESPERATE

 

look at meeeeee!!11!

Posted by: Bigby's Hands Over Fists at October 18, 2013 12:19 PM (3ZtZW)

257 @251

I LMFAO'd at that one. Well played!

Posted by: noone, really at October 18, 2013 12:19 PM (5ikDv)

258 this from the guy who wilted under Cali's union thugs? How about we nominate guys who can fight back, like Scott Walker? Only, make sure our next nominee is not an open-borders nutcase.

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at October 18, 2013 12:19 PM (QxSug)

259 I watched the debates for the Recall 10 years ago and the only reason Ahnuld didn't look like a tackling dummy was the presence of babbling idiot Arianna Huffington and potted plant Cruz BustaMechha Tom McClintock and Green Party candidate Peter Camejo looked like the only two who actually studied for the test Posted by: kbdabear THANK YOU for remembering those debates! And you are correct: McClintock and Camejo DESTROYED all the other candidates. Which was wild, because McClintock and Camejo were political opposites! But that debate changed my life, really. It was the moment I finally swung fully away from mobattism and into the conservative camp. Afte the debate was over, having seen McClintock and Camejo run circles around the other buffoons, I said to myself that I was going to vote for one of the two. So then I looked them both up online and found that I agreed with McClintock on about 85% of issues, and only about 10% of issues for Camejo. I was convinced.

Posted by: zombie at October 18, 2013 12:19 PM (+cx5n)

260 >>I'm dropping all sorts of Arnold one-liners related to him running all over this post! Running Man. What do I win?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2013 12:20 PM (g1DWB)

261 170 Weller is oooooold.

He was the bad general (Marcus) in the recent Star Trek movie. He also did a HC series about Romans and such. It was pretty good. He's a sort of prof at Syracuse and is working on a PhD. He's a multidimensional kind of guy.


According to his online bio, he was also once engaged to Sela Ward.  This automatically makes him an alpha male in my book, liberal or not.  Sela was the hottest thing on the planet this side of Sophie Marceau.

Posted by: pep at October 18, 2013 12:20 PM (6TB1Z)

262 I hope I can get across the border ... I hope to see my friend Ace again and shake his hand ... I hope the Hudson is as blue as it has been in my dreams ... I hope ....

Posted by: Milton Freeman at October 18, 2013 12:20 PM (aTXUx)

263 What this country needs is more idiots running for high office.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 18, 2013 12:20 PM (l0lja)

264 Hey, at least Schwarzenegger isn't a WOMAN!!!!!

Posted by: blaster at October 18, 2013 12:20 PM (W6bkf)

265 Of course, thanks to Barry, we find out that Nobody can enforce Presidential eligibility requirements. I'll bet that if some conservative foreign-born individual were to toss their hat into the primary ring, the enforcement mechanism would be found, and rather quickly at that.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 18, 2013 12:21 PM (/IXKu)

266 According to his online bio, he was also once engaged to Sela Ward. This automatically makes him an alpha male in my book, liberal or not. Sela was the hottest thing on the planet this side of Sophie Marceau.

OMG!  Sela Ward???  Does anyone else remember those phone company commercials she did wearing that black vinyl catsuit?  *gasps*


And Rustler's Rhapsody?  She was uber-hawt in that!


Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:21 PM (doBIb)

267 How about we nominate guys who can fight back, like Scott Walker? Only, make sure our next nominee is not an open-borders nutcase.

Walker is pro-amnesty.  Next.

Posted by: pep at October 18, 2013 12:21 PM (6TB1Z)

268 268 Hey, at least Schwarzenegger isn't a WOMAN!!!!!

Posted by: blaster at October 18, 2013 04:20 PM (W6bkf)


But apparently can get pregnant. Dumb, I know . . .

Posted by: Sphynx at October 18, 2013 12:21 PM (OZmbA)

269 Schwarzenegger is a deranged psychopath. If you read his biography you'll get a glimpse into his mind. I've been a fan of his bodybuilding history and have read a lot about him in the past. He's basically a wanna-be dictator. He is driven by an insatiable lust for power and this has been his driving force throughout his life.

Posted by: Andrew at October 18, 2013 12:22 PM (VjlMj)

270 Woah, Hey arnie, go fuck yourself.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 18, 2013 12:22 PM (FMbng)

271 As expected they had previously violated the pretend debt ceiling, they just weren't calculating it. So it jumped $328 Billion in one day. So have we hit the new debt ceiling yet?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b] at October 18, 2013 12:22 PM (sByIH)

272 liberal response:

The one-way trip to Mars has been available for longer than 18 days... comparing apples to oranges.


Also, one is extremely dangerous, participation highly likely to kill you.  The other involves a rocket.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 18, 2013 12:22 PM (SY2Kh)

273 Ace,

Any assessment of Schwarzenegger that claims he wasn't a catastrophe for California is disingenuous. 

He made no attempt to change the course of the state, which had veered wildly from a libertarian-minded, pro-business, pro-growth state in the 1980s to a shitstorm of feelgood leftist bullshit beginning in the 1990s.

After the recall of Gray Davis California would have been accepting of a change, but Arnold chose another direction, that of the empty gesture and the meaningless cut.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 18, 2013 12:23 PM (oJ5Fd)

274 Also, one is extremely dangerous, participation highly likely to kill you. The other involves a rocket.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 18, 2013 04:22 PM (SY2Kh)

I'm totally stealing that. 

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 18, 2013 12:24 PM (fwARV)

275

I wouldn't cast a vote for Arnold soley based on Last Action Hero.  

 

I want my money back Arnold!!

Posted by: polynikes at October 18, 2013 12:25 PM (m2CN7)

276 [i276 liberal response:

The one-way trip to Mars has been available for longer than 18 days... comparing apples to oranges.


Also, one is extremely dangerous, participation highly likely to kill you. The other involves a rocket.[/i]

One involves a place with no sign of intelligent life.  The other is a trip to another planet.

Posted by: pep at October 18, 2013 12:25 PM (6TB1Z)

277 *squinting*

Look. I'll do it. You don't even have to change the Constitution for me either.

There's still a 24 hour White House chef, right?

Posted by: Steven Segal at October 18, 2013 12:26 PM (+I+jK)

278 As expected they had previously violated the pretend debt ceiling, they just weren't calculating it. So it jumped $328 Billion in one day. So have we hit the new debt ceiling yet? #twoweeks

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2013 12:26 PM (b1/nQ)

279 There are only 3 significant differences between Ahnuld and Chris Bagadonuts

1. Christie is American born
2. Ahnuld is a Hollywood actor
3. Christie actually fought the unions and won

Other than that, they're interchangeable. I lived in CA under 2 terms of Ahnuld

Posted by: kbdabear at October 18, 2013 12:26 PM (aTXUx)

280 Sela Ward has to be the perfect definition of "cougar".


http://ilarge.listal.com/image/545238/936full-sela-ward.jpg


Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:26 PM (doBIb)

281 So have we hit the new debt ceiling yet?

As I understand it, there actually is no new debt ceiling at all until Feb. 7.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 18, 2013 12:26 PM (YVx8A)

282

Having seen the documentary "Predator", I approve of Schwarzenegger's, and Jesse Ventura's, position on illegal aliens.

 

Was there any other movie with 2 future governors?

Posted by: lgw at October 18, 2013 12:26 PM (WnZQb)

283 Walker is pro-amnesty. Next. ******* yup yup. But at least he fought. Why, oh why, did Mr. Generic Republican Governor T-Paw drop out so early!

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at October 18, 2013 12:26 PM (QxSug)

284 Sela Ward was in RR? I only remember Ann-Margaret. "You shot him in the head!"

Posted by: eleven at October 18, 2013 12:27 PM (Hy7dS)

285 how old, photoshopped is that Sela Ward photo?

Posted by: joeindc44 is totally not on Soros's pay now...right? at October 18, 2013 12:27 PM (QxSug)

286 I've been a fan of his bodybuilding history and have read a lot about him in the past. He's basically a wanna-be dictator. He is driven by an insatiable lust for power and this has been his driving force throughout his life. I don't remember that part. I do remember he was a big fan of head-games and used his knowledge of psychology against bodybuilding competitors. He would talk constantly through the other guys routines. He also would mess with people's workout routines and give them bad advice. He admits this proudly in an on-camera interview.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b] at October 18, 2013 12:27 PM (sByIH)

287 Uh......yea, just the idea of whoever the hell Illinois, New York, California et. al. would send to rewrite the Constitution leaves me all warm and fuzzy inside.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 18, 2013 04:20 PM (OWjjx)

 

 

---------------------------------------------

 

 

The nice thing about a states' Constitution convention is that it's not a popular vote.  Any changes would have to be approved by three quarters of the other states.  I don't see any wild leftist bullshit being able to pass that muster.  

 

If  the states do call a convention, it's going to be aimed at bringing this country back to the Constitution, not  away from it.

Posted by: Soona at October 18, 2013 12:27 PM (3Mz5/)

288 "245 Judas Priest.... really Ah-nold.
We go from McCain ==>Romney==>Schwarzenegger? Really? Really?
Grant? More like Rosecrans OR Pope for gosh sakes...

Posted by: odd at October 18, 2013 04:17 PM (kduZC)"



Winston Churchill once said that Americans will always do the right thing after they have exhausted all the other options first.  That would predict that we are going to run and lose with a whole lot more squishy moderate candidates before we ever run another successful conservative.  The only objection to Schwarzenegger is that it is not his turn yet.  We have to give Chris Christie his chance to lose.  And Jeb Bush.  And Richard Lugar.  And Peter King.  And John Boehner.  And Lindsey Grahm. 

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 18, 2013 12:28 PM (q1sF4)

289 Sela Ward was in RR?

I only remember Ann-Margaret.


"You shot him in the head!"

Posted by: eleven at October 18, 2013 04:27 PM (Hy7dS)



Ann was NOT in Rustler's Rhapsody.   That was Marilu Henner.


Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:28 PM (doBIb)

290
I never did hear what the new pretend debt ceiling is.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 18, 2013 12:28 PM (N8z9m)

291 273 Schwarzenegger is a deranged psychopath. If you read his biography you'll get a glimpse into his mind. I've been a fan of his bodybuilding history and have read a lot about him in the past. He's basically a wanna-be dictator. He is driven by an insatiable lust for power and this has been his driving force throughout his life.   I'm thinin' this is a feature and not a bug, right?

Posted by: odd at October 18, 2013 12:28 PM (kduZC)

292 If it came down to "the Only Man Capable of Saving America" argument, I'd bet we end up with Barack Hussein III before President Ahnold.

Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at October 18, 2013 12:28 PM (j0wOO)

293 how old, photoshopped is that Sela Ward photo?


Don't care.


Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:29 PM (doBIb)

294 >>Was there any other movie with 2 future governors? Bedtime for Bonzo. Reagan became the governor of CA and the chimp is the current one.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2013 12:29 PM (g1DWB)

295 I saw the movie Junior years ago. That automatically disqualifies Ahnold. If it were up to me, he would have been executed for making that film.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 18, 2013 12:29 PM (oFCZn)

296 292 We go from McCain ==>Romney==>Schwarzenegger seriously guys your party is dead just bury it

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 18, 2013 12:29 PM (nooa6)

297 What has Christie won against the teachers unions. Schools still suck. Taxes still high.

Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 12:29 PM (IR1YI)

298 199
GET YOUR ASS TO THE POLLS!!!


Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 04:09 PM (doBIb)

GET YOUR ASS TO THE POLES!!!


Posted by: exotic dancer overseer at October 18, 2013 12:29 PM (QdOC1)

299 Phil Roberts from Duck Dynasty for president. Knows the value of hard work. How to build & run a company. Prays. And likes to shoot little animals.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2013 12:30 PM (b1/nQ)

300 I like Levin's ideas, though. Let there be a consortium of states holding a Constitutional convention. Leave the fucking fed out of it. Posted by: Soona at October 18, 2013 04:18 PM

Just for shits and giggles, let's first have a 10-year period in which all Americans -- especially the ones in political office -- are forced to abide by the EXISTING Constitution. And punish the living bejeebers out of any public-trough-sucking pig who violated the rules.

There'd be no need to change anything.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 18, 2013 12:30 PM (kaGpp)

301 Ahnuld won in the 2003 recall because of anger over 2 issues ..

Davis signing the bill for driver licenses for illegals, and tripling the car registration fees

Ahnuld rescinded both, but crept back to advocacy of license for illegals after he won re-election

Posted by: kbdabear at October 18, 2013 12:30 PM (aTXUx)

302 Navycop - Lesly Gore http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsYJyVEUaC4

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 18, 2013 12:31 PM (aDwsi)

303 I never did hear what the new pretend debt ceiling is.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 18, 2013 04:28 PM


That's because there ain't one.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 18, 2013 12:32 PM (kaGpp)

304 Speaking of Da Ahrnod:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2334867/

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 18, 2013 12:32 PM (Hx5uv)

305 @304

and since the Fed is sorta busy , NOW could be good timing...

Posted by: noone, really at October 18, 2013 12:32 PM (5ikDv)

306 Over on Twitchy they've got him taking on libtard wrestling douche Kevin Nash. It's a thing of beauty.

Posted by: well, if we're going to waive the rules at October 18, 2013 04:18 PM (+I+jK)

Nash has told the story of how he injured his knee playing basketball, then went to work on the assembly line at one of the Detroit automakers, and faked a work place accident so he could get comp benefits for the injury he got somewhere else.  Makes sense that he's pro-Obamacare.  

Still, one of the joys of the new world of Twitter is watching TV's Art Mullen go at it hammer and tongs with Diesel over the expansion of the entitlement state.


Posted by: Dudley Smith at October 18, 2013 12:32 PM (q0qbd)

307 Clint, Nolan Ryan,

Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2013 12:32 PM (X1lGS)

308 Schools still suck. Taxes still high.

Posted by: thunderb at October 18, 2013 04:29 PM (IR1YI)

You live here?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 18, 2013 12:33 PM (oJ5Fd)

309 303 Phil Roberts from Duck Dynasty for president. Knows the value of hard work. How to build & run a company. Prays. And likes to shoot little animals.   Hmmm... and also, it appears, has a partially 'tarded tea soaked brother!  I'm thinkin' a whole new tea brand called "Si Tea!". 

Posted by: odd at October 18, 2013 12:33 PM (kduZC)

310 Cit him some slack he was married to a Kennedy... That says it all...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at October 18, 2013 12:33 PM (9+ccr)

311 Oh what fresh hell is this. . . though if axing the born citizen law is allowed, I'd donate money to get Merkel to run over here after she is bored with Germany. But zut alors, we have enough libs here that want to be European, we don't need to ship in MORE with designs on running for pres.

Usually VPs are picked to appeal to diff sections of the base than the person running for pres, I get that. But I still wish that Reagan had picked a VP better fit to lead the conservative charge, continue his gains after he left office and not hand the torch over to fiscal softies. It feels like we've been flailing ever since, W's strong lead after 9/11 notwithstanding.

We need to be behaving like the dems, hand pick charismatic fiscal cons to groom and get in office like Jarrett did with Obama, ones we know won't turn. Doesn't have to be an actor, but those skills help. There are a few Hollywood conservatives I think could fill in for the Gipper 2.0 in the meantime, but they'd need strong stomachs, the left media will tear their slightest impropriety to shreds. Does James Woods have any sealed divorce records to be concerned about? Any repub candidate will have their health records leaked, I can assure you of that.


Posted by: LizLem at October 18, 2013 12:33 PM (BF+2f)

312 Well, if we are going to make foreigners president (!) why not Rowan Atkinson - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91DSNL1BEeY

Posted by: Irighttherewith'ya at October 18, 2013 12:33 PM (EJ/Tn)

313 "The nice thing about a states' Constitution convention is that it's not a popular vote. Any changes would have to be approved by three quarters of the other states. I don't see any wild leftist bullshit being able to pass that muster. If the states do call a convention, it's going to be aimed at bringing this country back to the Constitution, not away from it. " Term limits Term limits Term limits Term limits Term limits

Posted by: Andrew at October 18, 2013 12:33 PM (VjlMj)

314 "After the recall of Gray Davis California would have been accepting of a change, but Arnold chose another direction, that of the empty gesture and the meaningless cut.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 18, 2013 04:23 PM (oJ5Fd)"



The fact that the voters of California rejected every one of the propositions that Schwarzenegger put before them in order to go around the Legislature argues to the falsity of your statement.



Schwarzenegger demonstrated that California is FUBAR and that a majority of Californians will continually vote to keep it that way.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 18, 2013 12:33 PM (q1sF4)

315 Get out of my way you Fucking pansies. Seriously, you guys...

Posted by: ahnuld govahnator at October 18, 2013 12:33 PM (dNkDl)

316
Oh wow, really Waterhouse?  They can go infinity until then?  Crap I gotta go get me some of that crazy feed cash.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 18, 2013 12:34 PM (N8z9m)

317 Cit him some slack oops ,cut

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at October 18, 2013 12:34 PM (9+ccr)

318 http://ilarge.listal.com/image/545238/936full-sela-ward.jpg


Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 04:26 PM (doBIb)

*



Yeah, I always dug her man. Sophisticated Brunettes make my monkey wiggle.


Posted by: dananjcon at October 18, 2013 12:34 PM (wmU4G)

319 306 awesome

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 18, 2013 12:36 PM (nooa6)

320 Sela Ward. Hubba hubba.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2013 12:36 PM (b1/nQ)

321 Acey, I got to drive you to the STO'

Posted by: Milton Freeman at October 18, 2013 12:36 PM (aTXUx)

322 He's just trying to get some hype. He's got a slate of movies coming out in the next few years

Posted by: brak at October 18, 2013 12:37 PM (RBQss)

323 The only thing I have any memory of him talking about is the Statist imperative to Fight Global Warming. Nothing says, "Imperative to Fight Global Warming" quite like jetting around said globe in your private jet.

Posted by: BuddyPC at October 18, 2013 12:37 PM (jfUIE)

324 There'd be no need to change anything.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 18, 2013 04:30 PM (kaGpp)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

I don't think there'd be  any drastic changes, to be honest.  It would probably become more of a  reaffirmation of the Constitution.  Anything changed would probably be clarifications, like the commerce clause, or, as we're discussing here, the criteria for citizenship of the president.

Posted by: Soona at October 18, 2013 12:37 PM (3Mz5/)

325 Yep , agree 100% with your update about Arnold's failures.

Posted by: Y-not, evil hobbit at October 18, 2013 12:37 PM (5H6zj)

326 Schwarzenegger was not just a failure as governor, he was catastrophic. His first big failure was his spread of ballot initiatives; he could have put his muscle behind one, probably the best starting point would have been curtailing union spending on political campaigns, or maybe redistricting. Instead, he threw them all out there, got all his adversaries worked up, and failed across the board. But that wasn't the disaster. He failed repeatedly at getting the state's budget in place; unable to bend the Democrats to his will, he fell back on gimmick after gimmick, kicking the can ever further down the road, rather than presenting the voters with a serious choice. But even that wasn't the worst failure. No, the biggest long-term disaster was AB32. Schwarzenegger was, or at least made a pretense to being, a green idiot, a full-on climate loon, and he actively beat the bushes for ever more restrictive watermelon nonsense. I figure we've got about a decade before the aftermath of what he put in place, and what the One-Party Government that succeeded him is doing with it, before any semblance of quality of life in this state is ruined for everyone under $8M net worth. Unless the whole mess collapses of its own weight before then.

Posted by: JEM at October 18, 2013 12:37 PM (o+SC1)

327

For the dumbest post of the day, I bring the stupidest son of a bitch of the day.

http://tinyurl.com/najbvpd

Posted by: maddogg at October 18, 2013 12:37 PM (xWW96)

328 Grant? More like Rosecrans OR Pope for gosh sakes...
---

I see the Rethugs more as Braxton Bragg, the general who could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 18, 2013 12:38 PM (Hx5uv)

329 Schwarzenegger demonstrated that California is FUBAR and that a majority of Californians will continually vote to keep it that way.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 18, 2013 04:33 PM (q1sF4)

I'm not referring to to props.

I'm talking about his tax policies, his regulatory schemes, etc.

The governor has no control over the propositions.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 18, 2013 12:38 PM (oJ5Fd)

330 Sela Ward guest-starred in one of the funniest Frasier episodes ever. She was a supermodel-zoologist who wanted to keep her relationship with Frasier on the down-low but Frasier was determined to prove he was dating her. One of the funniest sit-com scenes ever: "What do you think of me now?"

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 18, 2013 12:38 PM (DmNpO)

331 I'm beginning to believe that the symbol for the GOP should become a horse's ass. Seems like that's the way it operates anymore, and it seems to attract that sort of idiot.


I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: tcn at October 18, 2013 12:40 PM (3kDQa)

332 We coulda had McClintock.

But noooooo. Who wants some dull guy talking about the budget when we can have a movie star.

Libs hated Gray Davis only because they had to go without their pr0n with all the brownouts. Nothing at all to do with him signing away the state to pensions. Nope, it was inconvenient for them.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 18, 2013 12:40 PM (pgQxn)

333 Posted by: maddogg at October 18, 2013 04:37 PM (xWW96)
---

Yeah, they were doing it for the greater good to eliminate a very slight risk that a child might be injured.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 18, 2013 12:41 PM (Hx5uv)

334 Just to further stoke the fire, Sela Ward is a conservative. 

Posted by: pep at October 18, 2013 12:41 PM (6TB1Z)

335 I like Nick's fighting attitude, but he spends too much time on Twitter punching down on nobody trolls.

The "I live in a huge mansion and make lots of money and you don't" snarks at the trolls can bite him square in the ass in a campaign.

Posted by: kbdabear at October 18, 2013 12:42 PM (aTXUx)

336 Just to further stoke the fire, Sela Ward is a conservative.

Posted by: pep at October 18, 2013 04:41 PM (6TB1Z)



brb

Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:42 PM (doBIb)

337 I like Nick's fighting attitude, but he spends too much time on Twitter punching down on nobody trolls. The "I live in a huge mansion and make lots of money and you don't" snarks at the trolls can bite him square in the ass in a campaign. *** I unfollowed him because it just plain got old and boring and, frankly, looks more than a little bit like insecurity.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 18, 2013 12:43 PM (DmNpO)

338 Stoke? or Stroke?

Posted by: tcn at October 18, 2013 12:43 PM (3kDQa)

339 >>>I have ALWAYS been against an Article V convention. The very idea is insane. The Founders were brilliant and competent. Today's statesmen? Ignorant rubes without principles.

Article V amendments still need 3/4 ratification by State Legislatures. I envision only one amendment meeting the 2/3rds concurrence requirement at an Article V convention and 3/4 ratification.


 Amendment 28
This Constitution of the United States is hereby abolished and its union dissolved; all member states are hereby free and independent sovereign nations. All land belonging to the United States of America is hereby returned to the state in which it resides.

That's the only thing I think you can get 3/4ers of the states to agree to at this point.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at October 18, 2013 12:43 PM (0q2P7)

340 Unless the whole mess collapses of its own weight before then. Posted by: JEM at October 18, 2013 04:37 PM

Hey, just give me some time. I'm workin' on it!

Posted by: San Andreas Fault at October 18, 2013 12:43 PM (aTXUx)

341 Just to further stoke the fire, Sela Ward is a conservative. Bunk. brb.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2013 12:43 PM (b1/nQ)

342 300 292 We go from McCain ==>Romney==>Schwarzenegger

seriously guys
your party is dead

just bury it

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 18, 2013 04:29 PM (nooa6)



Democrat????

Posted by: Sphynx at October 18, 2013 12:44 PM (OZmbA)

343 It's all that guy's fault!

(points to solitary shivering scrawny R in fetal position sucking thumb in dark corner)

IF we get rid of him it will all be so much better!

Posted by: California at October 18, 2013 12:44 PM (pgQxn)

344 ace has been quiet. Too quiet. I feel a movie review coming.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2013 12:45 PM (g1DWB)

345 As a libetarian oriented former Republican, I couldn't vot for him.  I could care less that he slept with his maid (?) but I qualifies as a FAIL as a governor.

Posted by: georgeofthedesert at October 18, 2013 12:45 PM (Eq2MX)

346 83 I remember the last time they let an Austrian lead a foreign country. It didn't work out well. Wait till Hitler finds out that Arnold is running. It'll make the greatest Hitler video of them all.

Posted by: Great Caesar's Ghost at October 18, 2013 12:45 PM (8JxYH)

347 Sela Ward is a conservative. Bunk.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 18, 2013 12:45 PM (oFCZn)

348 Ahem...

http://tinyurl.com/kbtdvo4

And she leans right.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 18, 2013 12:46 PM (wmU4G)

349 As a libetarian oriented former Republican, I couldn't vot for him. I could care less that he slept with his maid (?) but I qualifies as a FAIL as a governor.

How much less could you care?

/petpeeve

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 18, 2013 12:46 PM (SY2Kh)

350 Ahem...

http://tinyurl.com/kbtdvo4

And she leans right.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 18, 2013 04:46 PM (wmU4G)



Ward/Harmon 2016



Can't lose!

Posted by: EC at October 18, 2013 12:47 PM (doBIb)

351 352 Ahem...

http://tinyurl.com/kbtdvo4

And she leans right.


And now I do too.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at October 18, 2013 12:47 PM (QdOC1)

352 Back.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2013 12:47 PM (b1/nQ)

353

"I see the Rethugs more as Braxton Bragg..."

Yeah?

Welp, I see the democraps as like their incompetent blind eyed cretin Jeff Davis. Inflexible, rigid, dogmatic, partisan upheld incompetent friends (like your friend Bragg)  over the main objections of the rest of the army and elected officials. 

Posted by: odd at October 18, 2013 12:47 PM (kduZC)

354 And she leans right.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 18, 2013 04:46 PM (wmU4G)

Too bad she isn't leaning forward....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 18, 2013 12:48 PM (oJ5Fd)

355 OK -- got Ruster's Rhapsody mixed up with The Villain.

Posted by: eleven at October 18, 2013 12:48 PM (Hy7dS)

356 []Ward/Harmon 2016

Risky.  Very risky.  I fear space would explode in a paroxysm of hotness. 

Posted by: pep at October 18, 2013 12:49 PM (6TB1Z)

357 348 ace has been quiet. Too quiet.

I feel a movie review coming. Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2013 04:45 PM

No hints of it on his Twitter timeline. The only new release he's talked about was Gravity which he refuses to see. He also told Andy Levy to get the sand out of his vagina because Andy liked it

Posted by: kbdabear at October 18, 2013 12:49 PM (aTXUx)

358 Nood

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2013 12:49 PM (b1/nQ)

359

Mmmmmm.  A big spoonful of crunchy peanut butter.

 

*chewing, crunching*

Posted by: Soona at October 18, 2013 12:49 PM (3Mz5/)

360

Some ancient astronaut theorists say the phrase was originally:

"I could care less but I can't be bothered"

Thus, "I could care less . . ."  is sort of right.

Also acceptable: "I couldn't care less"


Posted by: Sphynx at October 18, 2013 12:50 PM (OZmbA)

361 I can totally see her choochies.

Posted by: eleven at October 18, 2013 12:51 PM (Hy7dS)

362 Generate free publicity for Escape Plan - done.

Posted by: DaGovanators daily checklist at October 18, 2013 12:51 PM (DL2i+)

363 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 18, 2013 04:38 PM (oJ5Fd)


By that time Schwarzenegger had pretty much given up and was just enjoying the Governor's mansion because his wife liked being First Lady. 

When the voters of California rejected all his propositions exactly the same way that the California Legislature rejected all his proposals to return to sanity, Schwarzenegger gave up the obviously futile task of trying to fix what is wrong with California.  After that, I don't think Schwarzenegger really paid much attention to the responsibilities of his job.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at October 18, 2013 12:52 PM (q1sF4)

364 Just to further stoke the fire, Sela Ward is a conservative. To further stoke the fire she was in 'Against all odds' with James Wood, conservative. Google/Bing images for NSFW images. Phil Collins music could be a deal maker/ deal breaker depending on your musical taste; or lack of.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 18, 2013 12:53 PM (U2UQk)

365 Ah, yes, how I long for the more civilized days of politics.

Posted by: Zombie Alexander Hamilton at October 18, 2013 12:55 PM (+I+jK)

366 "Columbia University Law School professor Michael Dorf, an expert in constitutional law, said about the Governator’s case in 2007, “The law is very clear, but it’s not 100 percent clear that the courts would enforce that law rather than leave it to the political process.”" When the future Gibbons or Plutarchs writes their tales of the Fall of the American Republic, they should consider this for the introductory quote for the Fin de siecle prologue chapter.

Posted by: T. at October 18, 2013 12:57 PM (xGnmX)

367 Ooops, how I long for the days I could post on the proper thread.

Posted by: Zombie Alexander Hamilton at October 18, 2013 12:58 PM (+I+jK)

368 To further stoke the fire she was in 'Against all odds' with James Wood, conservative.

That's Rachel Ward.  You can't go wrong either way.

Posted by: pep at October 18, 2013 12:58 PM (6TB1Z)

369 That's Rachel Ward. You can't go wrong either way. Close enough for government work. Mea culpa. I just helped a UPS driver get unstuck from a five ton rock and still a little winded. Plus Myers Rum and coke.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 18, 2013 01:03 PM (U2UQk)

370 Barack Obama isn't American, regardless of where he was born.

Posted by: Kensington at October 18, 2013 01:03 PM (Yy2ZT)

371 373 That's Rachel Ward. You can't go wrong either way.

Close enough for government work.

Mea culpa. I just helped a UPS driver get unstuck from a five ton rock and still a little winded. Plus Myers Rum and coke.


And all the blood had left your head.

Posted by: pep at October 18, 2013 01:03 PM (6TB1Z)

372 Arnold bent whichever way the warm winds of global warming blew.  He was good at pretending to be strong and pragmatic, but was really wishy-washy and easily influenced.

Basically, a dope.

Posted by: Fritz at October 18, 2013 01:05 PM (TKFmG)

373 That's Rachel Ward. I remember her from "Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid".

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 18, 2013 01:06 PM (/IXKu)

374 Just a thought experiment: Would it really take a constitutional amendment? Maybe. But maybe not. Consider: "Since the Framers never explicitly defined the term [natural born citizen] nor included text dealing with the status of people who didn't clearly fall into either one of the above categories, we can assume they intended it to be defined through later laws and statutes." (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/343478.php) Granted, that post specifically enumerated Schwazenegger as "clearly" in the non-NBC category, but it reminds me of an argument I had on this topic regarding the eligibility of then-governor of Puerto Rico Luis Fortuno to be POTUS. The U.S. acquired PR in 1898. Congress, in 1917, by law, declared Puerto Ricans American citizens. Anyway, this gentlemen whom I was debating, believed that that law made PRs eligible. But, I countered, had Congress not passed that law, if I follow you, they would not be eligible. He conceded that. So, I asked him, if Congress could pass a law declaring everyone in the world a U.S. citizen, then everyone heretofore born anywhere could be POTUS. He answered affirmatively. In sum, his position was that a "natural born citizen" was whatever Congress said it was, a position not far removed from the one I cited from this blog.

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at October 18, 2013 01:09 PM (MSrqi)

375 I wouldn't get too worked up about Angie Harmon's conservatism. For one, I've only ever seen her cop to being a Republican, not a conservative. It seems to me that the only thing she ever wants to talk about politically is how much she lurves teh gays.

I think she's probably closer to the Meghan McDimwit wing of the Republican Party.

I'll bet that her co-star Sasha Alexander might be conservative, though. (Almost certainly not, but she's so hot I can't help pretending.)

Posted by: Kensington at October 18, 2013 01:11 PM (Yy2ZT)

376 331
For the dumbest post of the day, I bring the stupidest son of a bitch of the day.
http://tinyurl.com/najbvpd

Posted by: maddogg at October 18, 2013 04:37 PM (xWW96)


Flaaaames, on the side of my face.....omggg this is why we can't have nice things in Utah, like own our own federal lands. What the crap were they thinking????

Posted by: LizLem at October 18, 2013 01:18 PM (BF+2f)

377

I wonder what he could do now that his lefty ex-wife maria doesn't have a death grip on his 'nads.

 

Posted by: Max Entropy at October 18, 2013 01:23 PM (QKYRm)

378
I TOLD you he wanted to be President.

Posted by: Barney Ross at October 18, 2013 01:24 PM (TIIx5)

379 The battle for people's minds is the most important battle, indeed. Great point Ace. And, that's the battle Chris Christie wants absolutely nothing to do with. Sure, he's a fighter (as he likes to say) and he loves to take on the PTA and NEA types. But he never makes an ideological stand, ever. Never, never, never. He will leave his governorship having accomplished a marginal bit of stuff, missed on pensions and reducing the size of government, and have persuaded literally no one to change their views of the proper role of government.

Posted by: MTF at October 18, 2013 01:32 PM (qf2kI)

380 Remember when Carly Fiorina was a business savvy entrepeneur, celebrated high tech turnaround CEO, cancer survivor, and a brilliant moderate voice who wasn't saddled with baggage of the dirty tea party idiots, or the rubber stealing so-con Jesus nuts, and who was exactly what California needed after Ahnult stalled out and coasted through his second term? Then Wild eyed moon-chaser Jerry Brown stomped her like a cockroach? I do.

Posted by: cackfinger at October 18, 2013 01:37 PM (OsCtd)

381 #384... If Fiorina couldn't beat Brown, I don't know what hope there is for California. Republicans need to bank heavily on future Democrat candidates imploding "Carlos Danger" style.

Posted by: wooga at October 18, 2013 01:42 PM (6XdzX)

382 @384 - Fiorina's business record was a little less shiny than 'celebrated high tech turnaround CEO'. Still, it's embarrassing as hell that anyone would vote for Jerry Brown for anything.

Posted by: JEM at October 18, 2013 01:45 PM (o+SC1)

383 Ass to see you.

Posted by: president schwarzenegger at October 18, 2013 05:25 PM (eJvk4)

384 I have to admire how he's mastered the essentials of the American system of government.

In particular, he grasps that there is no constitutional provision, however clear and explicit, that the Supreme Court will follow if it doesn't want to.

On the other hand, he has a pretty immense ego to think that the Supreme Court would want to violate the Constitution *for him.*

He's male, white, middle-aged, successful, and flagrantly (and so far as is known exclusively) heterosexual.

(When you get right down to it, that was the Democratic case against Romney.)


Posted by: A6 at October 18, 2013 06:15 PM (RMMQt)

385 Remember when Carly Fiorina was a business savvy entrepeneur,... Entrepreneur of what? All she did was climb the management ladder at AT&T and Lucent, thenfor whatever reason got tapped to be the head of HP. I don't recall her starting and growing a company from the ground up.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at October 18, 2013 08:00 PM (/IXKu)

386 Uncle Ace is forgetting the Trump factor. Ahnold isn't so delusional to believe he'd be elected; but he is not in the least delusional in believing he'd get a helluvalot of attention and maybe a kickstart to his, uhm, career.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 18, 2013 08:33 PM (w45V0)

387 He doesn't fight. When he lost his first initiative battle, he bent over faster than a crossdresser in prison.

Posted by: mikulin at October 19, 2013 11:41 AM (AUchl)

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