1 I will wait for a few more people to comment before I post my OT/ news.

2

Wow, you mean that Fucking Without Consequences actually has consequences?

 

Who knew?

3 No one can have it all without doing some really reprehensible things a la Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama.  If you are OK with empowering and shielding a really scummy Democratic male, then back up the truck, baby, and we will start stacking the gold and silver bullion for you.

4 Her last frat party?

I hope all the bridges have fences along the walkways. 

Bless her poor little heart.

5

Seriously, Cat, did you just claim "first" from me by posting a post that says you'll post what you have to say in a later comment to this post? 

 

That's got to be some sort of a blog violation right there. 

6 Their empowerment = my utter boredom with them.

7 Wow, who knew, morals mean something in the long run?

8 I remember Cubby. 

9 If I had a time machine to go back and take advantage of every missed opportunity of past interactions with girls, I'd be very empowered indeed.

10 End of the Hook Up Culture...but the beginning of the Psychological Comfort Dog Culture. Hurray! http://goo.gl/LNBPj

11 Well it seems like Yale does actually practice diversity. See the link.

12 so washed up old whores arent empowered?

13

In the olden days, Ace...a girl who lost her virginity before wedlock, was considered 'damaged goods'.

 

So I think the 'Empowerment' thing came from that.

 

You're spot on, about the "little petty false signifiers".

Engaging in adult vices does not make you a grownup. 

14 I'd like to note for the record that unlike those Ivy Leaguers, it was a Duke girl who went public with sexual performance reviews of her male classmates.

15 There's that "intellectual" snobbery again. As if going to Princeton automatically means sooper-smartness. I'd rather marry a non-college educated yet successful entrepreneur than some self-satisfied Princeton legacy grad.

16 I said it for the last article and I'll say it for this one.  These women are full of shit.   They think it is the end of days because they are graduating from college.  Hey stupid, you're real life is just beginning.  You have been sheltered up until now, a a lot of you will continue to be sheltered.

17 after hook up culture what then? done with the bar scene culture?

18 Buncha fuckin' navel gazers......

19

This is a good lesson for the political class to learn. Just because people like it when you give it up for free doesn't mean you've done anything right.

20 oh gross, lacey

21 SWUG is one of those acronyms like FUPA.   It's   best   not   to   dig   to deeply into meanings.

22 But what if you're 20 years old and give a hummer to the President of the United States?

23 Pop jakeman's sex talk to me included the following words of wisdom: 1) Keep it dry. 2) I'm too goddamn young to be a grandfather. 3) I don't know what you've done, and I don't want to know. The other classic was, when I asked him why all in-laws hate the son in law, he responded, "Because you're jumping their daughter's bones as often as you can." Damn, I miss my dad.

24 Well, if it's any consolation to the SWUGs, there will be plenty of older dudes in the workforce who won't consider them "washed-up" at all, at least not compared to their wives.

25 Looling closely, you end up alone, if I remember correctly.

26 But what if you're 20 years old and give a hummer to the President of the United States?

Posted by: looking closely at April 12, 2013 03:33 PM (PwGfd)

Then you're an empowered woman.

Of course, that SAME woman enlisting into the military is a poor misguided child in need of therapy.

27 Male Japanese sexbots are what these women need.

28 hair of the dog culture? find a job culture?

29

Hooking up with guys (and by the way, there's no challenge here; a guy will sleep with you, even out of boredom, if you ask him) is the easiest possible thing a woman can do,

---

Why do i think that getting laid WAS an accomplishment for those early feminists that (a) wer ugly and (b) were surrounded by men with more discriminating taste then there currently are?

 

 

 

30 27 Male Japanese sexbots are what these women need.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 12, 2013 03:35 PM (/gHaE)

Fister Roboto?

31

i remember when women were treated as more than what was between their legs. (okay, i dont, but this is what they say they want.)

32 And if these addle  brain young ladies think they have bad they should try it from the guy's side.  When I was 19 years old I was a walking set of hormones with a permanent hard.


I would hit anything with 2 legs and 2 tits.

33

So  you're  saying  the  entire  progressive  social  experiment  is  just  one  giant  gravity  warping  shit-sandwich? 

 

Shocking.

34 To be fair, if I had gotten famous for blowing the Commander in Chief, I'd probably not mention it at the Army recruitment centre

35 How on earth would empowerment derive from the easiest thing in the world, having sex with a guy, who, frankly, is either going to have sex with A) you, or B) someone else, or C) his hand, or D) a pomegranate

No garbage pile?

36 C) his hand, or a pomegranate


*adds pomegranates to shopping list*

37

No garbage pile?

 

No couch?

 

No horse?

38 These SWUGs will find out in a few years that when they expect more out of a relationship than  just  hooking up, the guys   will    laugh.

39 So basically they're irked they've been supplanted by high quality internet pron?

40

"How on earth would empowerment derive from the easiest thing in the world, having sex with a guy, who, frankly, is either going to have sex with A) you, or B) someone else, or C) his hand, or D) a pomegranate"

***

 

A pomegranate? That's just disgusting and insulting...

I prefer watermelons.

41

>> Always Working For the Betterment of Man and Self?

 

I am working for the betterment of man and self but mostly self.

42 I guess at Yale we gotta add (E) for "ewe"

43 Not sure if noted above but how the hell do you have sex with a pomegranate?

44 No garbage pile? Or sofa?

45 But first...well, you know.

46 You know you were thinking it.

47 Well, Navycopjoe, when a man and a pomegranate love each other very much...

48

43Not sure if noted above but how the hell do you have sex with a pomegranate?

--

Well, first you gotta get it drunk...

49 So how much money has been wasted on this education bubble that will enslave so many into debt peonage for decades?

50 It's tragic that there are so many women who have been led to believe that they are somehow "empowered" by having sex indiscriminately, and doubly tragic that I can't locate those women.

51 There may be good reasons to have sex And, you're welcome, there are no repercussions!

52 The Gods of the Copybook Headings will not be denied.

53 Not sure if noted above but how the hell do you have sex with a pomegranate?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 12, 2013 03:39 PM (HQX6o)

 

 

Like  a  Cubs  wouldn't  know.

54 "Must we all carry on with this absurd posture of Always Working For the Betterment of Man and Self?"

I can't speak for everybody, but...yeah, I'm over that.

55 Yer on fire today, Ace.

56 Not sure if noted above but how the hell do you have sex with a pomegranate?

Posted by: Navycopjoe

 

step 1 - remove the seeds.

57 I planted a pomegranate tree a few weeks ago, with no lust in my heart whatsoever. Is there something wrong with me?

58 *puts the pomegranate down*

59 very OT/

I wanted to share this editorial on Dr. Carson and his ouster as JHU commencement speaker buy the Baltimore Sun. Most of it is stupid PC preening, but there is a couple of creepy sentences that I think need highlighting:

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baltimoresun.com
Ben Carson and the price of free speech
Our view: The Hopkins surgeon has the right to express whatever views he likes, but no one is required to respect him for it

11:17 AM EDT, April 12, 2013

There is much we don't know about Dr. Ben Carson's decision to withdraw as a commencement speaker for the Johns Hopkins schools of medicine and education. His recent comments in opposition to gay marriage, in which he compared homosexuality to pedophilia and bestiality, prompted a petition from some Hopkins students for him to be removed as a speaker. The dean of the Hopkins med school wrote a letter condemning the remarks, and Dr. Carson apologized. What happened between that series of events and his decision to step down — whether he faced additional pressure, by whom and how — will likely remain a mystery.

However, there is nothing in what we do know that suggests Dr. Carson's right to free speech was in any way infringed. The cries to the contrary by Dr. Carson's defenders display something of a misunderstanding of what protections, exactly, the First Amendment affords.

The Bill of Rights prohibits Congress (and by extension, state and local governments) from passing any law to inhibit free speech. As such, Dr. Carson is free to believe and say whatever he likes without fear that the government will take action to sanction him as a result. But the First Amendment does not require that any private individual or institution afford him a platform to speak, nor does it absolve him of facing private consequences for his speech. No one is under any obligation to respect Dr. Carson based on what he says just because he has a right to say it.

Dr. Carson's defenders argue that backlash over few poorly chosen words should not overshadow a life of tremendous accomplishment. Indeed, Dr. Carson's eminence stems not just from his skills as a surgeon but also from his extensive charitable work and his willingness to use his own up-by-the-bootstraps story to inspire others. Whether he will ultimately be remembered more for that or for the current controversy likely depends on what he does after his planned retirement this year.

But make no mistake, this is no matter of political correctness gone amok. Certainly, opposition to gay marriage remains for the moment within the bounds of mainstream political discourse — though given the rapidity with which Americans are coming to see it as a fundamental civil rights issue, that may not be the case for long. But the specific remark Dr. Carson made is something else entirely.

What he said during a Fox News interview with Sean Hannity was: "Marriage is between a man and a woman. No group, be they gays, be they [the North American Man/Boy Love Association], be they people who believe in bestiality, it doesn't matter what they are. They don't get to change the definition." That refers to a line of reasoning made by some opponents of marriage equality: If we change the traditional definition of marriage to accommodate one group, how do we justify denying marriage rights to anyone else?

The answer is, pedophilia and bestiality are exploitative and abusive practices rooted in one party's desire for power and domination over another. Both are classified by the American Psychiatric Association as mental disorders. The push for same-sex marriage is about promoting a fundamental building block for strong families and communities. What got so many people upset with Dr. Carson is that his comment suggests he doesn't see the difference.

That said, Hopkins as an institution of learning has a tradition of encouraging the free exchange of ideas and a commitment to free speech that exist entirely apart from any legal obligations. Indeed, universities have a tradition of protecting those who express unpopular ideas, and they could hardly do their job if they did not expose students to a wide variety of perspectives. That set of values, ultimately, carried the day this week when the undergraduate Student Government Association's Judiciary Committee reversed a decision by the student Senate to deny recognition to an anti-abortion group. On the surface, that would seem to contradict in some way Dr. Carson's situation. Did the actions of the students who petitioned to remove Dr. Carson and the dean who criticized him run counter to the school's principles?

Dr. Paul B. Rothman, the medical dean, expressed this conflict in values well in his letter to the Hopkins community. Dr. Rothman referred to Dr. Carson's comments as "hurtful, offensive" and in opposition to Hopkins' institutional belief in equal civil rights for all regardless of sexual orientation. "While his recent comments are inconsistent with our core values," Dr. Rothman added, "Dr. Carson has the right to participate in public debates and media interviews and express his personal opinions on political, social and religious issues. We strongly value freedom of expression and affirm Dr. Carson's right, as a private citizen, to state his personal views."

The question here is not whether Hopkins is attempting to silence Dr. Carson — clearly, it is not. Nor is it whether Dr. Rothman overstepped his bounds; he surely has just as much right to express his views and those of the institution he represents as Dr. Carson does. The issue is whether the students want Dr. Carson as their graduation speaker. If they don't — for whatever reason — they have a perfect right to say so as well. In his letter, Dr. Rothman said he would meet with them on Monday of this week to gauge their opinions on the matter.

It is, of course, extremely unlikely that the topic of gay marriage — or, for that matter, Dr. Carson's qualms about Obamacare or his advocacy for a flat tax — would come up in a graduation speech. Such events are better suited to the kind of inspiring story Dr. Carson is well suited to provide, and depending on who the university can line up as a replacement, the students may well miss out by not having him there.

However, it is impossible now for the students or anyone else to view Dr. Carson simply as a great surgeon. He has quite deliberately waded into politics, and that is now part of his public identity as well. His right to do so, to attempt to influence the laws and values of this nation, is a precious thing, but it comes with a price, and as Dr. Carson decides what to do once he leaves medicine, he needs to consider whether it is a cost he is willing to bear.

Copyright © 2013, The Baltimore Sun
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Opposition to SSM may not remain "within bounds" of discourse much longer and people  like Dr. Carson ought to think twice about speaking his or her opinion (consider the cost!).  Wonderful.

60 " Must we all carry on with this absurd posture of Always Working For the Betterment of Man and Self?" They've made every other facet of life political ... what kind of coffee you drink, car you drive, etc. Nothing is outside the political arena anymore. It's what they wanted. And now they are lonely.

61 It is best when I just have to lay there and they empower themselves.

62
shhh.... come on dude....the are millions of us thanking our lucky stars that young chicks think the shlong bounce is empowering.

63

For some reason as I'm reading this I'm think of the Elvis  (not that one) song, "Angels Want to Wear My Red Shoes." 

 

I don't know why, it just seems to fit.  Maybe it's the pomegranate talking. 

64 I read the comments here for pleasure.

Its usually the highlight of the day.

65 having sex with a guy, who, frankly, is either going to have sex with A) you, or B) someone else, or C) his hand, or D) a pomegranate The SAT's have really changed since my day.

66

I'm thinking a lot of thes girls could've spent those fours years in a brothel. Then they'd have no debt (might even have a bunch of savings), developed useful life skills and opened a slot in the school for someone looking for an education.

67 The Rock is disappointed that you didn't mention pie

68 I planted a pomegranate bush years ago when I first bought this house.  I have yet to get a single pomegranate from it.

69 I'm old fashioned enough to think that if you're going to screw a multitude men you don't care much for, you may as well go full whore and charge them.

70 Is this where I re-post Alexthechick's rant about not being defined by the lady parts?

71 At some point, you've had enough pomegranate ass. Tasty, juicy, pomegranate ass...

72

"Buncha fuckin' navel gazers......"

 

I know it looks like navel gazing, but it's not. NGing implies  introspection and the assumption that she's thinking for herself when she's obviously not.  Hell, she so much as spelled it out by bookending herself between the writings of two  writers who may or may not be   Ivy League scrunts.

 

Maybe if she shakes off the indoctrination for which daddy paid so dearly and starts to think for herself she'll figure some shit out.

 

 

73 I was eyeing this sexy little pomegranate at Kroger's just the other day, but then I realized she could be just a little "empowered" whore and there'd be no future in it

74 I have yet to get a single pomegranate from it.

Posted by: Vic

 

Lots of male teenagers   in the neighborhood, huh?

75 I think Ace is conflating what dopey academicians say with why women actually screw around. I'm not saying that there are zero women who screw around because it feels empowering, but I've never met a chick who did it for any reason other than liking sex.

76 The queers and gays are going to be so angry that we're taking the word "fruit" back...

...for the vegisexuals

77 If this is the mentality of the scrunts we are graduating from Yale, I give up any hope I ever had for the future.

Only 33 percent of the senior women I surveyed said they were currently feeling “very” or “a lot” of empowerment in their sexual choices and decisions.

The fu?  This girl is gonna be a very old maid if that's her attitude.  She's looking for a feeling of "empowerment" from her sexual decisions?  Jeebus H. Keerist on a stick.  Relationships are a crapshoot, honey.  Follow some rules.. try not to sleep around too much and go into those relationships with eyes wide open, and you may better your chances a little... but only a little.  You're still gonna be disappointed 90% of the time.

But going in looking for "empowerment"? Ha ha ha ha!  100% failure guaranteed.

And.. as an aside.. it's even worse for guys, for the reasons noted by Ace.  As far as sex goes, women hold the power.. Did they have a pic of this gal along with the story, Ace?

WTF are they teachin' these kids these days? Huh?

78 Buncha fuckin' navel gazers......

Posted by: Tami at April 12, 2013 03:33 PM (X6akg)

 

 

 

Not sure it is their navels they are gazing at. IYKWIATAITYD

79 "...Welcome to what “KiKi” likes to call “SWUG nation." Which KiKi? The only KiKi I know of had a gerbil fly out of his ass. Armageddon!

80
D) a pomegranate







Honestly, from an engineering standpoint, I'm having difficulty seeing how that would be possible or enjoyable.

But a lightly microwaved cantaloupe.....

81 I have yet to get a single pomegranate from it.

I waited for years to see a Papaya on the trees in my backyard, then someone told me they were male and would never bear fruit.

82 47 Well, Navycopjoe, when a man and a pomegranate love each other very much...

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at April 12, 2013 03:40 PM (QTHTd)

Gotta quit reading the comments at work because suppressing laughter hurts.

83 Is this where I re-post Alexthechick's rant about not being defined by the lady parts?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 12, 2013 03:44 PM (o9mAc)

Absolutely.

84 You know honey, I live you but I've been having sex with this pomegranate The seeds are ribbed for my pleasure

85 Posted by: Persephone at April 12, 2013 03:42 PM (QTHTd) Too late, my dear!

86 And if you want a really good time, think Asian Pomegranates...so i've heard

87 I planted a pomegranate bush years ago when I first bought this house. I have yet to get a single pomegranate from it. Look on the bright side, Vic: Your purity of essence is intact, even if you're a little low on Vitamin C. I'm in AZ and have had pretty good luck with orange, lemon, plum, nectarine. So, we'll see what happens.

88 When I was 19 years old I was a walking set of hormones with a permanent hard.  I would hit anything with 2 legs and 2 tits.


Posted by: Vic




Cro-Magnon women hardest hit.

89

Sex should be as casually engaged in as dancing, or buying a hamburger.

 

Pregnancies should be terminated without thought, let alone guilt - preferably via a pill you buy over the counter, the next day.

 

It takes a village to raise a child.  The parents role is ancillary.

 

Most soldiers join the military so that they can kill without having to face a judge.

 

We have always been at war with Eastasia

 

Welcome to the USA, 2013

 

90 Perhaps this Kiki??  From Sluggy Freelance.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs13/f/2007/046/d/8/SF__Kiki_by_Inonibird.jpg

91 Wow, I'm glad that I went to an all-male college. If someone had such angst on campus, we would have just beat the shit out of him until he smiled.

92 Where all the sluts at?

93 I planted a pomegranate bush years ago when I first bought this house. I have yet to get a single pomegranate from it.


You're scaring it.  Stop waiting next to the bush with your dick in your hand and you'll get better results.

94 Ok.  I clicked the link and saw her pic.  Nuff said.  But then again.. I would have thought college guys drank heavily enough to make her look desirable... until morning.

95 Thank goodness I was never a part of the "hook up" culture. I always thought "sexual empowerment" meant being to buy my porn and toys online. XXX stores always smelled like burnt sperm.

96 What these poor women need is a day at the gun range.

97 Where were all these loose women when I was in college? 

98 Okay Nearsider since you asked for it. -

Warning: This is going to be incredibly profane, even by my standards.

I am not my cunt. My entire life does not revolve around whom I fuck or who will fuck me. My tits are not relevant only to the extent that they may turn on me and give me cancer and kill me. Oh and speaking of cancer, and fuck cancer with the Warcock outfitted with a flaming cougar condom, cancer is not a motherfucking political issue you worthless pieces of shit who are turning it to such. My value as a person is not my vagina. I am not a mewling quim who is in desperate need of Daddy to take care of me because I am too feeble minded and weak to do so myself. I am not a talking gash who exists solely to be manipulated by being threatened that oh noes the Republicans hate my lady parts by the same party that is, as a practical matter, enforcing blasphemy laws on behalf of a religion that will cut off my clitoris. Let's not mention cutting off my head because I have the temerity to appreciate other ladies' lady parts.

Every single Democrat who believes that the only thing I value as a woman is abortion needs to be punched in the face by me. Fuck you. Fuck you sideways with a pineapple. It's shockingly sexist and pathetic and disgusting.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 02, 2012 01:30 PM (VtjlW)

99 I realize this was just one person's take but this article counters her point somewhat. (Granted, it's from Australia but it's still interesting. By interesting I mean pathetic.)

100 this sort of anti-hedonistic proselytizing is what's causing the GOP to lose the independent voters. That, and not standing for our own values. But mostly this.

101 I waited for years to see a Papaya on the trees in my backyard, then someone told me they were male and would never bear fruit.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 12, 2013 03:46 PM (/gHaE)

I don't think that matters with a pomegranate.  It has got flowers on it before but just doesn't bear fruit.

102 It may have already been said but...Kim Kardashian. She became famous for having a big ass and a sex tape. Even worse are her sisters who became famous for having a sister with a big ass and a sex tape.

103

if women go to college to meet guys, I think there'd be a huge market for a combination cooking and sex school.

104 I waited for years to see a Papaya on the trees in my backyard, then someone told me they were male and would never bear fruit.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 12, 2013 03:46 PM (/gHaE)

Homo!

105 >>>"Smart women canÂ’t (shouldnÂ’t) marry men who arenÂ’t at least their intellectual equal." THATS an interesting statement. Although I talk a good talk, and love to muse on all sorts of philosophical topics, I am actually kind of an idiot, especially when it comes to navigating the real world. My wife, who may have a more limited vocabulary than me is actually a vastly more capable person than I am, even if she doesn't come across as "smart."

106 Gotta quit reading the comments at work because suppressing laughter hurts.

Posted by: joncelli at April 12, 2013 03:46 PM (RD7QR)

I wish I could tell you how many times I've shattered the silence of my office with inappropriately loud laughter.

My boss probably knows though...

107 XXX stores always smelled like burnt sperm.


I've never even thought about putting the words 'burnt sperm' together.

108

 

I enjoy showing young boys my pomegranate trees. I know they feel very empowered afterward.

109 To be serious: no point in even listening to ivy league "feminists" speak. We are watching Growing Pains.

110 Hey, Chicken, scoot over.

111 You know, I have absolutely no idea what the hell a pomegranate is but I strangely want to tie one up and screw it's brains out In the fruit section of the store If you're going to go perv....don't fuck around

112 So ....... just how many 19 year olds were thanked is the takeaway from this post , I think .

113 I better stop looking a pictures of pomegranates here at work. Saving it for after the family goes to sleep tonight...

114 This has a lot to do with the ratio of young men to young women in college now. Guys don't really have to try to hook up anymore, while girls find their pool of potential partners becoming more shallow. The twin feminist messages of Girls > Guys and Being a Tramp = Power are going to lead to a lot of empty lives.

115 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 12, 2013 03:49 PM (o9mAc)

I have that saved in my Vault of Awesomness.  It's one of my favorites.

116 All the badass guys screw Durian.

117 I had a roommate my freshman year of college who became quite the hippy. She went from one guy to another in her little circle of hippy "friends". What I mean by this is the male hippy would be just nice enough to her to get her in the sack, they'd screw a couple times, then he'd toss her aside. She went through quite a few rounds of this. By the end of the semester she was sitting around the dorm room crying all the time and the RA was recommending that she get counseling. Oh, and she was epileptic and her hippy "friends" were trying to get her to try LSD because those doctors who told her not to mess with drugs were just part of the establishment, man.

118 Women's Lib was invented by men, for men.

119 Yale undergrads tend to take normal, every day things and pretend they discovered them. I lived around these crazies for years, this is just how they are. Next, they'll come up with an acronym to explain how their hair gets wet when it rains. And we're all supposed to be grateful for their insight.

120 It has got flowers on it before but just doesn't bear fruit.

It took like 10 years of productionless blossoming before my key lime trees produced the first tiny limes.  Freaking lime tree with like two scrawney Charlie Brown Christmas tree style limes on it.

121 I liked what the worg in charge of facebook said, she said women should sacrafice their love lift so they can pursue their scintillating career path in middlemanagement.

122 The Yaley - a cocktail of pomegranate juice and Valu-rite vodka.

123 after hook up culture what then? A lab/petrie dish culture?

124 I'm not gonna ask how she knows what burnt sperm smells like.. But, damn, I'm sure curious!

125 Can anyone in this stupid culture admit they ever do anything just because it gives them pleasure to do so? I'm playing the computer RPG Torchlight. Not because it's fun. I'm doing it... For Science!

126 try not to sleep around too much and go into those relationships with eyes wide open, and you may better your chances a little... but only a little. You're still gonna be disappointed 90% of the time.

Or more.

127 Pomegranate

Cantaloupe

Couch

Wife (too kinky?)

128

This passage in the Princeton mom's essay caught my attention:

"... you will never again have this concentration of men who are worthy of you. ... Smart women canÂ’t (shouldnÂ’t) marry men who arenÂ’t at least their intellectual equal. As Princeton women, we have almost priced ourselves out of the market ..."

I have to disagree with the Princeton mom, though: the Ivy League women I've met - granted, a relatively small sample - are not only not better than most working-class men, they are not worthy of them.

The greatest folly any human being can commit is the sin of pride, of hubris: to believe one's self superior to the great mass of humanity. The Princeton mom is telling young women not to look at a man's intelligence or wisdom or character, but at his credentials. Most women who takes her advice and adapt this attitude are setting themselves for cold, lonely nights and long regrets.

However, I will grant the Princeton mom this point: when a woman marries, she, with rare exceptions, assumes her husband's social rank. A Princeton princess who marries a plumber would probably find herself ostracized, even if her plumber was well read, kind, and a good provider. So, in that sense, the Princeton mom's advice makes sense; except that she fallaciously speaks of "intelligence", when what she really means is "class".

129

@117 I had a roommate my freshman year of college who became quite the hippy. She went from one guy to another in her little circle of hippy "friends". What I mean by this is the male hippy would be just nice enough to her to get her in the sack, they'd screw a couple times, then he'd toss her aside. She went through quite a few rounds of this. By the end of the semester she was sitting around the dorm room crying all the time and the RA was recommending that she get counseling.

--------------------------------

Reminds me of the female lead in Forrest Gump, and her abusive hippy boyfriend during the late-60s segment.

 

130 Some might call freshman girls empowered. Others might call them fresh meat. Not me, per se, but "others." As in, "others might say . . . " Shit, just watch the first 20 minutes of the Facebook movie, whatever it's called. Yeah, "The Social Network." It ain't about empowerment.

131 I think this raises a larger point: There is no academic value to feminism, why does everyone pretend it's a worthwhile educational field. Let me summarize the sum-total of a phd in femel is: "gimmee"

132 Cro-Magnon women hardest hit. Posted by: EC at April 12, 2013 03:47 PM (GQ8sn) hehe well, vic said something about "50 years ago, he did so and so" and my jaw dropped

133

>>>>I have that saved in my Vault of Awesomness.

 

What else you storing down there?

134
The other thing with that term, "empowered" as I read this is that there's an implied male OBLIGATION to have sex with these women in order to validate their existence. Setting aside the obvious jokes for a moment, that sure sounds rapey to my ears.

135 It took like 10 years of productionless blossoming before my key lime trees produced the first tiny limes. Freaking lime tree with like two scrawney Charlie Brown Christmas tree style limes on it.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 12, 2013 03:52 PM (/gHaE)

Mine has been there now for at least 25 years and is about 15 feet tall now.

136

In my opinion (and being 25 I am not only "hip" "cool" and "with it" but my opinion is always valid and right) the college hookup culture is nothing special. Mainly because:

A. Young people of all historic times and societies were interested in, and got, sex. And every new generation that comes along thinks it invented the act and they con the older generation into thinking it too. Besides for the 70's, its all the same old story.

B. College only seems great at the time because we compare it to h.s. It's much easier to meet people in college because, well, you have way more freedom in college than you do in h.s. More people you meet...more fun to be had.

That being said, I've had even more success in "adult life" than I ever did in college. Again, more freedom, more opportunity. It's much better than college.

And the "study" mentioned in the first article is nothing new. There are maybe 10% of the college population who are A. attractive enough and B. lack a sense of morals who go around and act as most of the media portrays college to be. The rest of us want that long term relationship...after all you get way more of it, and its way better than way.

And you dont feel empty inside. Anyone with two IQ points to rub together realizes after their first ONS that the empty feeling isnt great, maybe you should look for something more fulfilling.

 

137 http://ace.mu.nu/archives/278552.php

I denounce myself

138 123 "after hook up culture what then?"

The Instagram dick-pic culture. Just ask Anthony Weiner

139 Oh, and pomegranates are passé. The big thing now is acai berry.

Try to fuck that, and be sure to get footage.  *snicker*

140

Fuck you sideways with a pineapple.

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ooohh, moist golden rings with a nice whole in the middle. No more pomegranates for me. Time to squeeze me so special pineapple juice.

 

141 Welcome to the world of the ladies who have given up on boys because they donÂ’t so much empower as frustrate, satisfy as agitate.

Let me flip that over and say welcome to my world, where I have given up on a relationship with a woman because all of them in my life (I am not saying all of them everywhere) were shallow-thinkers who thought feminism meant that she could have a man who was driven and ambitious at work and would rise through the ranks, but would let her be in charge in the home so she could run their lives.  There's a contradiction there, but it is one that feminism never seems to see.

142 There's power in those vaginal warts.

Probably not the power you were expecting.

143 I am sooooo empowered, you wouldn't believe it. Now give me some free birth control because I don't want to have to go to that butcher Gosnell again.

144 what comes after the hook up culture? For many females, it's cat culture.

145

@It took like 10 years of productionless blossoming before my key lime trees produced the first tiny limes. Freaking lime tree with like two scrawney Charlie Brown Christmas tree style limes on it.

-----------------------------------

And then the squirrels took a couple of bites out of them before they were ripe and dropped them on the ground where they rotted.

Amirite?

My Mom finally gave up on the fruit trees she had in her yard due to the squirrels pretty much destroying all of the fruit before it was ready to be picked.  It's why I call them tree rats.

 

146 Young people of all historic times and societies were interested in, and got, sex. And every new generation that comes along thinksit invented the act and they con the older generation into thinking it too. Besides for the 70's, its all the same old story.

They did invent the saved cooter.  Or was that Victorian prostitutes?

Either or, Disco Bush Forever.

147 I have that saved in my Vault of Awesomness.

What else you storing down there?

Posted by: Roy at April 12, 2013 03:54 PM (VndSC)

Um.  Awesomeness.  Pure, unadulterated awesomeness. 

For the truly daring, come to the NoVaMoMee and behold my vault.  (It's mostly filled with shit Alex has said here, but still...)

148 *prior apologies to the Ladies*

................I wouldn't do Madonna with Hillary's pecker (nor Janet Reno's!)

149 Those Ivy girls have even ANOTHER problem - the girls from other colleges, like my nearby all-girls one - and steal all the mens We're all still married to our Penn grads too hahahahaha Being at another campus - esp a single-sex one - gave us that "air of mystery" - AKA they hadn't seen us all with no makeup at class a zillion times

150 I did a little bit of the hook up thing in college/after the Army, but I had a girlfriend for most of my life before I got married. Not the same gf, of course, but I went out with girls for a year or two before we'd split up (most of he time). Lot less stress (and expense) than if you're chasing a different girl every night.

151 Cargo Cult and Madonna First there was Cher. I say, Madonna's music is great to work out to.

152 Mine has been there now for at least 25 years and is about 15 feet tall now.

threaten it with a chainsaw and let it know you mean business

153 #98 - Badda BINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

154 Oh, the 20-something ladies in my office, both living with their current squeezes, think that is the thing to do. I tell them don't provide the milk for free, make the guy buy the cow (in a matter of speaking). 

They tell me they're "responsible" and nothing bad could possibly happen. I say a kid could happen. They tell me to piss off.

OK, so I'm old fashioned.

155 "This is not the vault we are looking for.  Move along."

156 The idea that female looseness=empowerment is based on the idea that men=women. They don't of course. With men sex is often unrelated to their deep feelings about a woman. Men can and do have intense romantic relationships and deep care for people they sleep with, but they don't need to be intimate emotionally with women before they sleep with them. Women were suckered into this idea that they would gain power from sleeping around, that many notches on the bedpost would make them the female equivalent of being a stud. It doesn't. They can't change the emotional makeup that women have had for as long as they've been. You're dissatisfied because you slept around and had no really meaningful relationship come out of it? Well, Do'uh. Didn't your mother ever tell you about the cow and the milk? Dimwits.

157 Meh.  Blame tattoos and rap music.

158 75 ---"I've never met a chick who did it for any reason other than liking sex." Posted by: Zippity Doo Dah at April 12, 2013 03:45 PM (E55AK) ------------------ I assume you are either joking or unbelievably naive!

159 149 "Being at another campus - esp a single-sex one - gave us that "air of mystery" - AKA they hadn't seen us all with no makeup at class a zillion times"

Fawn Liebowitz, is that you?

160 I assume you are either joking or unbelievably naive!

He's just that good.

161 Who the fuck would hook up with that scrunt?  She looks like Jim Varney with a wig.

162 Still going to frat parties as a senior?  An explanation forms.

163 XXX stores always smelled like burnt sperm. I've never even thought about putting the words 'burnt sperm' together. Posted by: EC at April 12, 2013 03:50 PM (GQ8sn) Never had a cum omelet?

164 Anyone with two IQ points to rub together realizes after their first ONS that the empty feeling isnt great, maybeyou should look for something more fulfilling.
Posted by: Stone at April 12, 2013 03:54 PM (4sMhD)

Uh yeah...we're going have to ask for a Y-chromosome check after that statement. Don't blame us - it's just the usual bylaw requirements. You understand.

165 Like most things leftist, "empowerment" means the lowest common denominator, leading to an empty pointless existance. Leftards want to lead you into oblivion. They hate thenselves, and they hate you too.

166

Ace: ..."But this is Cargo Cult thinking. It is true that Madonna is empowered; it's also true she is (or was, anyway) a bit of a tramp."

 

'Cargo Cult' is a good analogy for it, Ace.

 

Engaging in the superficial trappings of adulthood...is not, in itself, an empowering activity.

 

But that's what the Left has tried to sell.

They've used Permissiveness as a way to draw young people to their side of things.

 

"We're not judgemental like your parents. Come with us. You can do whatever you want to, and it's okay."

 

But it's a lie.

Promiscuity is denigrating and leaves you with an emptiness, not empowerment.

 

 

167 Women's Lib was invented by men, for men.

Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at April 12, 2013 03:52 PM (evdj2)

 

 

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Hehehe.  And it fucking WORKED!

168

"I say, Madonna's music is great to work out to."

 

Dry heaving really works those abdominals. 

 

Way better than crunches.

169

OK, have to admit a pomegranate has never been on my short list.

170 Madonna had the perfect formula of Dance + Sex. And, yes, she worked like a dog, from what I have read. She was an AAA+++ personality, and never stopped. And, also, to be fair, some of her songs were pretty good -- not about sex at all. And, they resonated with other women. She cannot sing, is so true, if you have ever heard her live. She has worked on her voice, but most of what we hear is digitally fixed.

171 Ooops...off Nasty sock!

172 That article did go on to mention that hope springs eternal after the SWUGs graduate and become Big City sluts.

173 SWUGs, Sex and the City the college years.

174 video won't play outside the US meh

175 "Young people of all historic times and societies were interested in, and got, sex. And every new generation that comes along thinks it invented the act and they con the older generation into thinking it too""


The metal clubs in the 80's and 90's were fucking insane. All you had to do was "want" to get laid. The pickings were as abundant and grains of sand in the Sahara.

176 Ace, this is a very smart, insightful piece of writing. And everything you said is so true. I wish I could write like you. I wanna steal your powers.

177 I will note that youth is the very embodiment of hubris.

178 "I have known many happy marriages, but never a compatible one. The whole aim of marriage is to fight through and survive the instant when incompatibility becomes unquestionable. For a man and a woman, as such, are incompatible."

 - G.K.Chesterton

179 I'd sure like to go out and get "empowered" tonight. But I'm middle aged and bald. Still 30 inside, though.

180

Hmm, so I take it that these "sexually empowered" young womyn listened to some stranger    who couldn't  give two shits about them   for their  life    advice   instead of their parents? And   now    they're     unhappy?

 

Color me shocked.

181 >>>I've never even thought about putting the words 'burnt sperm' together. Kevin S______n did that with a test tube in the 12th grade over at Pat M____n's house. I think he also snorted a crushed up Tylenol to see what would happen. Good times.

182 Actually,   empowered is a nice euphemism for "infected with an STD".

183 >>Still going to frat parties as a senior? An explanation forms.

Posted by: Malachy at April 12, 2013 03:59 PM (Xv7f/)

The frat boys are only trying to tap the high schools friends of the frosh girls up for the weekend

184 I disagree that Madonna was/is a tramp. I think she approached sex like a guy. She was/is a non-apologetic hunter. She set her sights in someone and usually got him. If that makes her a tramp, then that makes most guys tramps, too.

185 >>>And, also, to be fair, some of her songs were pretty good -- not about sex at all. And, they resonated with other women. I think it's a case of her getting the job as Superstar Siren and then getting to LEARN HOW TO DO HER JOB while already having it. So yes, she did learn how to play guitar and write songs and even sing. But obviously very few people get to learn on the job of being a Superstar Siren.

186
I will note that youth is the very embodiment of hubris.

Posted by: toby928© Red Partisan at April 12, 2013 04:02 PM (evdj2)

like the old saying "youth is wasted on the young"

187 This is just terribly sad news for our culture.

Perspective from an oldster:  those first swooning throes of passion mellow out.  Your spouse needs to be your FRIEND as well as your sexual partner. 

You are facing the world together,  looking forward,  not spending the rest of your life gazing into each others' eyes.

My view of marriage and sex is colored by my faith.  However,  the words   I wrote above apply to people of all faiths and none.  All that the hook-up culture has done is diminish the value of women and men to each other,  and left people searching for more and more unique and exciting sexual thrills.  Hence porn and bizarro sexual fetishes.

Now I will hobble off,  waving my cane in the air, and go to get a glass of wine.

188 >>>I disagree that Madonna was/is a tramp. I think she approached sex like a guy. She was/is a non-apologetic hunter. She set her sights in someone and usually got him. If that makes her a tramp, then that makes most guys tramps, too. ???? of course most guys are whores. I didn't realize this was even a question.

189 "empowerment" As far as the public usage, empowerment resembles identity theft. Empowerment is gained by selfishly taking away the power over their own lives from other people, and leaving the victims crippled at best. revisionism with all of the best intentions, of course

190

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 12, 2013 03:47 PM (o9mAc)

 

Lol, that was the only Kiki I could think of as well. Didn't know you were a Sluggite.

191 "little petty false signifiers"

Ace came pretty close to a Grand Unified Theory of Progs here: practically everything they do is worshiping or chasing or obtaining signifiers.

192

154 -

 

These gals are probably the same nitwits in favor of gay marriage, because of the Social Security benefits. 

 

People are stupid. 

193

Most men go through two phases of life.

1) Cum-guzzling gutter sluts are the best thing ever, because SEX!

2) Cum-guzzling gutter sluts are whores, and you should avoid them like the plague when finding the woman you are going to share your life with.

Both phases are great, but only one is actually right.

194 184  If that makes her a tramp, then that makes most guys tramps, too.


Yep. Tramp here. Or would be if I could. That's the difference.

195 My view of marriage and sex is colored by my faith. However, the words I wrote above apply to people of all faiths and none. Amen.

196 Remember, gentlemen.  The willing are weak and the schlong is strong.

197 of course most guys are whores.

I didn't realize this was even a question.

Posted by: ace at April 12, 2013 04:05 PM (




It comes with having the royal staff. lol

198 >>>Ace came pretty close to a Grand Unified Theory of Progs here: practically everything they do is worshiping or chasing or obtaining signifiers. oh I've written THAT piece like four times.

199 Wow, look at the mouth on Raisa! Last time I saw a mouth like that, it had a gaff hook in it!

(adjusts necktie, pops eyes, sweats profusely)

200 And, also, to be fair, some of her songs were pretty good

"Live To Tell" is criminally underappreciated.  And "Frozen" may be the best thing she's done.  But her recent albums all suck.

201 OT:


@NolteNC

Tapper on @TheLeadCNN: Opens with news of upcoming "buried lead" re: Gosnell. "Grisly story you won't see much of elsewhere."

202 188 ???? of course most guys are whores. I didn't realize this was even a question. Posted by: ace at April 12, 2013 04:05 PM (LCRYB) It's not in question. It was just a response to a Madonna/tramp comment. Of course we're whores. That's kinda in stone.

203 Yeah am a fan of Sluggy Freelance.

"Why do you call your angel Chuck?"
....
"Oh ground chuck."

And of course Bun-Bun.

204

 

Those 'Slut Walks' are supposed to be empowering.

 

They are saying, basically..."I can be as slutty as I want to be"...and there should be no consequences.

 

Yeah, right.

Keep telling yourselves that.

 

I think the Left has dug in deep, into this line of reasoning, to support their use of Permissiveness as a tool to recruit young people to their political viewpoint.

 

They need abortions as a way to erase the consequences.

 

205 "Keeping to one woman is a small price for so much as seeing one woman. To complain that I could only be married once was like complaining that I could only be born once. It was incommensurate with the terrible excitement of which one was talking. It showed, not an exaggerated sensibility to sex, but a curious insensibility to it. A man is a fool who complains that he cannot enter Eden by five gates at once. Polygamy is a lack of the realization of sex; it is like a man plucking five pears in mere absence of mind.”

― G.K. Chesterton

206 Like a surgeon

Cuttin' for the very first time

Like a suuuuuuurgeon

Got a kidney on my mind

207 What about me?

208 184 " If that makes her a tramp, then that makes most guys tramps, too."

But the guys don't get stamps.

The guys get shirts

209 This chick writing this stupid crap doesn't seem to notice that there is a reputation involved here.  When she was younger she was more empowered ( she means to say popular) and over the 2-3 years of slinging her cooter around developed a reputation as a girl who slings her cooter around.  There was a girl at college who hung out with a few friends of mine.  Sharon.  After slinging her cooter around a bit she was known as Sharon Share Alike.  She wasn't anyone you really wanted to be seen hanging around with.  She'd ruined her reputation.

This chick writing all this crap is just relabeling all the shit we've known for centuries.  Pathetic ivy league bullshit.

210 of course most guys are whores. I didn't realize this was even a question. In my late teens/early twenties even the crack of dawn wasn't safe

211

When it comes to my love life, IÂ’ll be leaving Yale in not so much a blaze of glory as a blur of disappointment.

 

It's almost as if they went to college to find a husband.

212 I think it's a case of her getting the job as Superstar Siren and then getting to LEARN HOW TO DO HER JOB while already having it. So yes, she did learn how to play guitar and write songs and even sing. But obviously very few people get to learn on the job of being a Superstar Siren. Posted by: ace at April 12, 2013 04:04 PM (LCRYB) totally agree with this if you listen to her music over time, it matures, as most musicians do I always saw Madonna as a "Shock Star." She had to shock you, push the envelope, each and every time. Again, you can see that with each of her music videos, and her live performances. A Shock-Jock for music.

213 O/T  I've got Tapper on to see if/how he covers Gosnell.

214 194 184
If that makes her a tramp, then that makes most guys tramps, too.

Yep. Tramp here. Or would be if I could. That's the difference.
Posted by: Sphynx at April 12, 2013 04:06 PM (OZmbA)

And furthermore every guy is descended from a long line of horn-dog tramps. So it's something of a family tradition.

215 I knew a guy in college who could not buy a date.  He was scrawny, pock marked and an Enginerd from central casting. 

Graduated, joined the Navy, got himself some gold wings and jet training and became female catnip.  Had to fight off the ladies. Every weekend was Tailhook. 

He was still scrawny, still pock marked and still an enginerd from central casting but by God he was a friggin' fighter pilot and that was that. (He wasn't even a fighter pilot but, oh, well.   S-3, A-6, A-7, think the women cared?  All planes were F-14's.)

My point is, the problem is women.

216 >>>"Live To Tell" is criminally underappreciated. Always really liked that one.

217 So after 4 years of being a cum dumpster, she wants a free upgrade from mistress class seating to wife class?

218 So far Tapper has covered N. Korea, and now Netflix.  Still no Gosnell.

219 as long as we're admitting to liking Madonna's work: That movie she did, "Who's That Girl?," is a wonderfully bubbly/silly comedy. I really like it. Except the ending, but who cares.

220 Now I will hobble off, waving my cane in the air, and go to get a glass of wine.
Posted by: Miss Marple at April 12, 2013 04:05 PM (GoIUi)

While you're up, tell those kids to stopping fucking on the lawn.

I'm trying to take a nap here.

221 128 --- "... she fallaciously speaks of "intelligence", when what she really means is "class"." Posted by: Brown Line at April 12, 2013 03:53 PM (VrNoa) ------------------- THIS. (And I think social class is important to most of the people that go to Ivy League schools, so she may be right about what an Ivy League girl should go after.) For most women, energy, strength of character, and lively curiosity will count for more than credentials. There are plenty of boring, lazy college graduates and plenty of interesting, industrious guys without the degree.

222

I've never even thought about putting the words 'burnt sperm' together.

Posted by: EC at April 12, 2013 03:50 PM (GQ8sn)


Never had a cum omelet?

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Jeez who burns a cum omelet??? focus people

223 Always really liked that one.

Posted by: ace at April 12, 2013 04:11 PM (LCRYB)

Wow. I thought I was the only one.

Very haunting. Gives me chills.

224 >>>If that makes her a tramp, then that makes most guys tramps, too. Well, guy tramps aren't shamed as much. You're forgetting the double standard (which isn't really a double standard: Female virgins are valued; the promiscuous female is not. And the converse: Male virgins are ridiculed; the promiscuous male is not. It all comes down to spreading genes, and being sure of paternity. The lock that can be opened with any key is worthless. The key that can open any lock is teh awesome.

225 The Material Girl debut on MTV was a formative moment for me. I don't think I had the volume on, though.

226 I disagree that Madonna was/is a tramp. I think she approached sex like a guy. She was/is a non-apologetic hunter. She set her sights in someone and usually got him. If that makes her a tramp, then that makes most guys tramps, too. Posted by: Joejm65

I disagree.  Guys don't have their dicks photographed for coffee table books.  It's all done with cell phones.

227 Polliwogette I think today's Sluggy Freelance cartoon fits this thread.

http://sluggy.com/

228

Any hot ladies out there need empowered?

229

of course most guys are whores.

I didn't realize this was even a question.

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WORD

230 My point is, the problem is women.

Posted by: Nubla at April 12, 2013 04:10 PM (Xv7f/)

I was totally that guy. 

In my case, I graduated, got myself some gold Aircrew wings and started jumping out of helicopters. 

Same effect. 

231 My point is, the problem is women. Posted by: Nubla at April 12, 2013 04:10 PM (Xv7f/) meh perhaps he was shooting to high

232 The only Madonna song I like(d) was "Borderline."  After that, blah. 

233

There  are  real  problems  in  the  world you  vapid,  self  absorbed  twats. 

234

The lock that can be opened with any key is worthless.
The key that can open any lock is teh awesome.

Whoa.

235 218 "So far Tapper has covered N. Korea, and now Netflix. Still no Gosnell."

Never watched before, but does it make sense that the top story (N. Korea) would go on at 4 and the 2nd top story (Gosnell) would go on at 4:30, with the BS (Netflix, PSY) in between?

236 It's almost as if they went to college to find a husband.

Why else would they go? 

237 The most telling thing about women like Madonna, J-lo, Rihanna is that their own personal lives are unhappy. For beautiful, rich, successful women they invariably can't keep a man, have a string of failed relationships and marriages behind them and wind up being reduced to marrying their back up singers.

238 She sure writes like a Single White Ugly Girl.

239 Producers are probably frantically sanitizing whatever Tapper plans to report.

240

I can't even pretend to fathom why this Yale chick's article is supposed to be relevatory.  Guys are usually after girls younger than they are?  STUNNER!  Hell, this was common knowledge when I was in high school 20 years ago (and probably long before that) - it was practically a law of nature that the senior boys always tried to date and/or bang the freshman and sophomore girls, and that the senior girls were largely in a kind of no-man's land.  They didn't want to "lower" themselves to dating the younger boys, but pickins among their age group was generally pretty slim, so if you were a sophomore boy you stood a fair shot at picking up a senior girl if you hung around long enough at parties until they were drunk and desparate.  And, of course, the slutty ones were plenty popular but never respected.  And OF COURSE this is unfair.  Tough shit, that's the way of the world.  All the morbid self-fascination in the world isn't going to change that.

 

Boys are supposed to pursue girls.  Girls are supposed to make it difficult to do so.  That's goddamned nature.  Rejecting basic human nature is a recipe for misery.

241

It's not fair, it's a double standard, but it is what it is.

 

There are two phases in life:

 

1)  Very young and stupid, and wanting to get as much tail as possible.

 

2)  Marriage and children.  And you don't want to marry a chick that has acted like a whore during stage 1. 

 

A simple fact of life.  That's tough for many to accept.  Don't get me wrong ladies, we still need whores.  But marriage material, that requires a more skeptical eye....

242 Had a casual high-school buddy to whom women were basically convenient receptacles for his vital bodily fluids, and wished to waste no time with wooing or other crap. I also had a sister who delighted in hanging out with her BFF that had a reputation for being 'easy', as in Highlights-crossword-puzzle easy.

One fine day my sister told me that my aforementioned friend had asked her out, and what did I think of that. I said, 'Congratulations; your reputation is right down in the gutter with your pal's.' Sis said, 'But I don't screw around like she does!' 'Hey, Einstein, company you keep, lay down with dogs, etc.'  The look on her face processing this information was priceless. Probably just a coincidence that she's a big Obama fan, as that also takes a steadfast refusal to add 2+2 and get 4.

243 after hook up culture what then? ORGASMATRONS like in the movie DEMOLITION MAN with WOODY ALLEN and SANDRA BULLOCK.

244 The lefty-libertine cultural definers are sure good at discovering 'new' things and ideas that happen to be 10,000 years old .

(Famous Time cover:"Men and Women may be Different")

245 224 "The lock that can be opened with any key is worthless.
The key that can open any lock is teh awesome."

I always loved that phrase

246 Tapper's show is booooorrring.  Don't know how much longer I can last. 

247 Concerning social class:

My mother had a Master's Degree and finished her teaching career as a Dean of Women at a small college.  My father never got past his first year of college due to the Depression and WWII.  He repaired furnaces and then became a maintenance head for a local school system.  They had 5 children and were married for 45 years, until my father passed away.

My brother is an electrician married to an attorney.  Great marriage with 2 strong girls,  both who married their high school sweethearts after graduating from college.

The class thing is BS, as long as you can share common interests and work hard together and value each other for what each brings to the marriage.

248 Fister Roboto? Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at April 12, 2013 03:36 PM (aozUR) And he's learning.

249 I feel like we're coming up to this comments, so here it is, "well you know, ginger rogers had to do everything fred astair did, in heels and backwards." nodding as if something very apt was said about the sexes.

250

217 So after 4 years of being a cum dumpster, she wants a free upgrade from mistress class seating to wife class?

 

Most guys don't like the prospect of marrying someone who has had dozens of sexual partners.

 

I don't think this will ever change.

 

251 She sure writes like a Single White Ugly Girl. Posted by: Opus An Arcus


It's better reading it in the original Comic Sans font.

252 246 Tapper's show is booooorrring. Don't know how much longer I can last.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 12, 2013 04:18 PM (lVPtV)

No shit!  Talk about boring....good grief.

253 243
after hook up culture what then?

ORGASMATRONS like in the movie DEMOLITION MAN with WOODY ALLEN and SANDRA BULLOCK. Posted by: soothsayerwing plover

***

I like a man who knows his movies.

254 Riff - "Well Torg, it worked. I succeeded in summoning Satan into my computer."

Torg - "How do you know you got the Satan, instead of a lesser demon?"

Riff - "He installed Windows 95 on my system."

Torg - "Win95? But Riff you have a Mac!"

Riff - "Got any Holy Water lying around here?"

255

And on the empowerment point:

 

Empowerment is not gobbling down a double quarter and fries.

 

Empowerment is not getting drunk every night.

 

Empowerment is not hooking up with good looking people for sexual pleasure.

 

To the contrary, empowerment is denying immediate pleasure and happiness for a larger, more satisfying goal.

 

Culture has it all backwards.

256 When did women's vaginas become such a study?  Ladies, you either want dick, or you do not want dick.  Ask and ye shall receive.

All of this relationship nonsense is nothing but your own mindfuck.

257 I meant vapid....it's vapid.

258

If a woman is empowered by giving men sex just think how much more empowerful she would be if she made them pay her for it!

 

And I think that little argument will show up somewhere all edgy and feministy fairly soon.

259

Two more points

 

1)Madonna was carried by Griffin Dunne in Who's That Girl.  He was a terrific comic actor who never got many roles for some reason.

 

2)Navy pilots get the girls that can't score a Marine first.

260 "Live To Tell" is criminally underappreciated. And "Frozen" may be the best thing she's done. But her recent albums all suck. Posted by: Ian S. at April 12, 2013 04:07 PM (B/VB5) Too many for me to list. I seriously bought her music to work out to over the years. The stack of her music was always in my gym. And, I notice when people come over, sleep over, or whatnot, and hit our gym, many choose her stuff, male or female. I think they think because it is in our basement we can't hear what they choose, heh.

261

@224

 

I think it has something to do with paternity. Men don't carry children. Therefore we always know who the father of a child is but not necessacarily the father. Thus as such cultures (not just western civ) developed an aversion to female promiscuity while not being particularly concerned with males. 

262 I was totally that guy.

In my case, I graduated, got myself some gold Aircrew wings and started jumping out of helicopters.

Same effect.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 12, 2013 04:15 PM (fwARV)

 

 

-----------------------------------------

 

 

When I made PC commander in the Cav in Germany, my German wife was so overjoyed that she couldn't wait for me to come home and install the new cabinets.

263 >>>ORGASMATRONS like in the movie DEMOLITION MAN with WOODY ALLEN and SANDRA BULLOCK. Then Taco Bell.

264

Wheatie:

 

Yep, it always go back to that cult classic, Clerks and the 37 Dicks segment!!!  Just look it up on Youtube if you have never seen it.

 

Fucking classic.

265 No wonder the SWUGs are disappointed. They were having sex to satisfy needs it was it was never intended to satisfy, and never capable of satisfying.

---------------



Yup.

Young women have been sold a bill of goods.

266 "The lock that can be opened with any key is worthless.

The key that can open any lock is teh awesome."


The key that would untie a knot would be helpful.

267 Now Tapper is doing a powerful piece on PSY. 

268

It's almost as if they went to college to find a husband.

Why else would they go?

 

To get an education, to take the world by the horns, to become empowered strong women taking their place in the world ...

 

OK. All kidding aside, to find a husband.

 

When I graduated from college I was single and didn't feel a "blur of disappointment." The thought never crossed my mind.

269 2)Navy pilots get the girls that can't score a Marine first. Posted by: radar at April 12, 2013 04:20 PM (eNZFc) o_O

270

"I always saw Madonna as a "Shock Star.""

 

Unfortunately this is the way of "art" and has been for a long time.  It seems most "artists" whether their work is hanging on a wall or  coded on a CD is in search not of beauty, truth, and technical perfection, but shock and buzz.  It's cheap, effective, and you don't need to be particularly talented.

 

Just walk through a museum gallery.  Most of the shit hanging in there is meant to  insult your sensibilities and piss you off.  That it gets a rise out of people in the few seconds people care to view it offsets and is equal to, in the shock artist's mind, the 45 minutes  where you lose yourself in front of something truly beautiful and touching.

 

I guess in a way it's like hook-up culture.  If your life is missing any long-term meaningful love, you make up for that with intense, short-term, meaningless  sport fucking. 

271 RE: Express Yourself video.

Brings back memories of hearing that song on a DAT Walkman in a Sony store at the mall.  The format never took off.  People just stuck to bulky CD-player walkmans until MP3 players came about.

272 Golly, last month the media was screaming about young men not diving into marriage and thus being immature.  Turns out they wisely don't want to be chained to narcissistic, confused little balls of erratic emotion.

273 On the smart women need to be with smart guys thing - the Good Ex BF was the smartest person I've ever met. He was an actual genius (his mom had him tested /Dr. Sheldon Cooper, Ph.D). He was also a high school drop out. He and I were together while I was finishing up law school and it was hilarious how openly disdainful of him were the ever so tolerant people with whom I went to school. They didn't care that he was, no, really, a genius, they only cared that he didn't have the right degrees. One day someone asked me how I could bear to be with him. As I was about to reply, he came up to fetch me from the library since he didn't want me walking home by myself. He kissed me on the cheek, handed me the giant cup of chai he'd stopped to get for me from my favorite place and then grabbed my bag so I wouldn't have to carry it. I replied "That's why." Too bad that he and I tended to reinforce each other's bat shit craziness or he would have been a good long term partner.

274 Ok, Tapper should be embarrassed about this show.  Seriously, bad.

275

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 12, 2013 04:11 PM (lVPtV)

 

What's going on with Netflix? I dropped them a few months ago since I didn't have time to watch the stuff, and was tired of fighting my kids to keep to their time limits.

276 And on the empowerment point:

Empowerment is not gobbling down a double quarter and fries.

Empowerment is not getting drunk every night.

Empowerment is not hooking up with good looking people for sexual pleasure.

To the contrary, empowerment is denying immediate pleasure and happiness for a larger, more satisfying goal.

Culture has it all backwards. Posted by: Prescient11


Well put.

277 Tami, he's truly awful, isn't he? 

278

Wow, I know there are some seriously unflattering pictures of me from college (and one couple minute long movie that involved underwear) but that woman looks actually proud of her seriously unflattering picture.

 

 

Related, sort of, knew a girl who graduated from Yale who had the longestunderarm hair I have ever seen, I mean cousin It length. And she insisted on wearing only tank tops, all the time, even in winter.

279

Today I hit the tip jar.  Never before have I hit a blog top jar.

 

I hit the tip jar because you, Mr. Ace, are closer now to being a catechist than I have yet to read, and I have read a lot.

 

Chastity, purity, continence.  Though in contrast to the Val-U-Rite, fapping and hobo jerky streak; the Gosnell media embargo, "empowerment" and exposition of mysogyny posts appeal to me.  If it is a ruse, congratulations.  If it is genuine, prepare for blessings the scale and nature of which you have not the capacity to guess.

 

Hey "wymyn," Gut check on the fruit of their labor not necessarily in this order :

Marx

Engles

Sanger

Friedan

Steinem

Freud

The upside for all is repentance, forgiveness, redemption and salvation.

Thanks again for the smart military blog that this is.

 

280 I like Madonna's billion dollars! I guess the money is in touring. That's why these geezers tour until they are dead.

281 I'm going to need a bulldozer to remove all the man-cards from this thread

282 And in retrospect, though I wasn't thinking in these terms at the time, it's probably not a coincidence that the one girl I ever went on more than 2 dates who would not have sex within 2 more dates is the one I married.

283 They think they invented sex and slutty behavior. Kind of like they think that Christian married couples are all repressed (yet somehow manage to have more children than most of the progressive types).

284 272 Golly, last month the media was screaming about young men not diving into marriage and thus being immature. Turns out they wisely don't want to be chained to narcissistic, confused little balls of erratic emotion.
Posted by: Ajax at April 12, 2013 04:22 PM (6FGVd)

Well thank God we have alcohol to enable perpetuation of the species!

285 Mom should not be asking her daughter if the NYT is wrong. She should have told her daughter that. About 10 years ago. Stupid libtard

286 277 Tami, he's truly awful, isn't he?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 12, 2013 04:23 PM (lVPtV)

It looks like the kind of show they'd give a newbie on the channel. 

Putting the Gosnell story on this show is just wrong.

287 was she FRENCH or AUSTRIAN?

288 The fuck ? James Woods played Woody Allen in Repo Man .

289

Should I mention my musician-type   friends who   would gladly insert their schlong in a pile of rocks  just to see if,  mayhaps, there was a snake in   it?

 

These  guys are usually pretty miserable in their personal lives, too. They  have such a warped view of women and relationships that they  can't have   a successful marriage.  The double standard is less pronounced that it appears to the culture at large.

 

Horn-dogs aren't very happy  either.

290 Let's empower some wimmens with an old style Friday post. IYKWIMAITYD.  Whaddayasay Ace?

291

278 -

 

Is that so she could use them as spare vaginas? 

 

I never understood the appeal of underarm hair.  If society wouldn't frown on it, I'd shave mine. 

292 Boulder Toilet Hobo, I hear St. Pancake is renting a bulldozer out for one thin dime.

293

Manly, intelligent, sensitive men and how I snagged 87 of them with oral sex!!

294 272 Golly, last month the media was screaming about young men not diving into marriage and thus being immature. Turns out they wisely don't want to be chained to narcissistic, confused little balls of erratic emotion. ********* I know, right? We need to man up and marry these cum dumpsters. Also, I had no idea Yale was so filled with wannabe Liz Phairs.

295

Thanks Dang.

 

DM, I hit the tip jar as well.  Guaranteed anonymity on that bitch, right!!  Sick of waiting for the fucking tshirts, although I hope I get some type of grandfathered discount.

296 Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?

297 How can you guys listen to music by someone who's had Sean Penn's dick in them?

298 The class thing is BS, as long as you can share common interests and work hard together and value each other for what each brings to the marriage.

Disagree.  I have 4 very smart, very ambitious daughters (yeah, I'm bragging, deal with it).  They simply would not be happy with someone who was not ambitious or intellectually curious.  That doesn't mean that any guy with those two attributes is suitable.  They are necessary but not sufficient. 

I'm really worried.  There just don't seem to be as many men out there who are husband material.  Blame feminism, video games, online porn, whatever, they are few and far between.  

299 The class thing is BS, as long as you can share common interests and work hard together and value each other for what each brings to the marriage. Posted by: Miss Marple at April 12, 2013 04:18 PM (GoIUi) so true Folks move around a lot, now, too, which sometimes takes them away from the common ground and familiarity.

300 Good grief, Ace, now you're starting to sound like a Santorum voter.

301 Tapper claims most of the media has ignored Gosnell, "but not The Lead."

302 To get an education, to take the world by the horns, to become empowered strong women taking their place in the world ...

Yeah, that way lies loneliness--and ridicule and ostracism, just in case the loneliness itself does suck enough ass.  It's like being dead, except you have to wake up every morning and go get the rent, and then pay income taxes on it.

If I was 17 all over again, I wouldn't get within 100 feet of Calculus 151.


When I graduated from college I was single and didn't feel a "blur of disappointment." The thought never crossed my mind.

You're a man. 

303 283 They think they invented sex and slutty behavior. Kind of like they think that Christian married couples are all repressed (yet somehow manage to have more children than most of the progressive types). ******* excuse me, popular culture has told me that christian married couples are usually made up of a repressed homo (can I say that, Tang?) and a slut who's glory days are behind her...so I have no idea what this can mean because everyone knows that prog couples are the strongest, most caring, least nagging, people there are. plus they recycle.

304

Plenty of horndogs are happy.  They just also tend to be incredibly shallow narcissists who have zero interest in companionship or children.  And if they ever change their minds about those things, usually it's too late for them to do anything about it.  

305 299 The class thing is BS, as long as you can share common interests and work hard together and value each other for what each brings to the marriage.


Posted by: Miss Marple at April 12, 2013 04:18 PM (GoIUi)


so true

Folks move around a lot, now, too, which sometimes takes them away from the common ground and familiarity.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette


Oh, it's on.

306 Like Junior Rodeo.

307 New Tapper thread.

308 Nicely written article, Ace. Thanks.

309 When I graduated from college I was single and didn't feel a "blur of disappointment." The thought never crossed my mind. You're a man. ***** I know, right? I was like "great, oh well, now girls want to date 28 year olds. Oh well, at least I got a job"

310 I guess the money is in touring. That's why these geezers tour until they are dead.

Well, yeah.  The record companies and their Hollywood-style accounting get all the money from albums and whatnot.  But they can't touch your touring income.

311 How can you guys listen to music by someone who's had Sean Penn's dick in them? Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 12, 2013 04:27 PM (oO2S4) Truth or Dare?

312 Jan D'oh,  Am not watching Tapper,  but I followed him for some time on Twitter (until he banned me for criticizing him, as he has done to several people I know) and he was most emotional and focused when covering the death of Michael Jackson.

His degree is in POP CULTURE.   He is most concerned about things that fall in that sphere.  So I am not surprised he has produced a superficial and failing show.

He probably got so many tweets about Gosnell that they decided to use it as a hook to boost his abysmal ratings.

313 say....didn't Bill Clinton go to yale at one point? Swug life, look what it did to him!

314

"Should I mention my musician-type friends who would gladly insert their schlong in a pile of rocks just to see if, mayhaps, there was a snake in it?"

 

BRB, heading over to the quarry.

315 A friend of mine was listening to some nitwit blathering on about being given "empowerment" when he laconically interrupted: "Power is seized, not given."

316 The problem for these women started long ago, when their parents abdicated their duty to teach them about values and sex

317 Maybe Raisa's problem is she's Woody Allen with knockers? Constantly whining and kvetching, deluded that she's philosophizing deftly when all she's doing is pissing and moaning? Could that be a deal breaker for long-term wedded bliss?

318 278 "(and one couple minute long movie that involved underwear)"

ONT! ONT!

319

273...They didn't care that he was, no, really, a genius, they only cared that he didn't have the right degrees.

 

I hate that attitude. 

A college degree is not a measurement of someone's IQ...it merely signifies that someone made it through the courses necessary to a degree plan.

 

But the elitists in Academia have to keep forwarding that lie.

It's what supports them, and protects their status as 'gatekeepers'.

 

320 310 I guess the money is in touring. That's why these geezers tour until they are dead. ***** There was a documentary on punk rock dads that made the point that these days, a lot of B list groups and below are just throwing their albums out there for free and living off of the touring. The free downloads build up good will.

321

"Should I mention my musician-type friends who would gladly insert their schlong in a pile of rocks just to see if, mayhaps, there was a snake in it?"

 

Good news - this pile of rocks is snake-free!

 

Uh ... I'm told, anyway. By a friend.

322 A degree in Pop Culture?  Is there actually such a thing? I thought it was only something to be found in Don DeLillo novels.

323 314 "Should I mention my musician-type friends who would gladly insert their schlong in a pile of rocks just to see if, mayhaps, there was a snake in it?" *** this is rather funny.

324 Yeah, that way lies loneliness--and ridicule and ostracism, just in case the loneliness itself does suck enough ass. It's like being dead, except you have to wake up every morning and go get the rent, and then pay income taxes on it.

If I was 17 all over again, I wouldn't get within 100 feet of Calculus 151.

Eh, that route isn't entirely perfect for many men either.  Based on posts earlier in this thread, apparently my mistake was not doing something involving aircraft between college and starting my career.

325 >>> Good grief, Ace, now you're starting to sound like a Santorum voter. I'm not actually a social liberal. I'm moderate on some things and moderate-conservative for others. I'm pro-truth and anti-stupid. This "sex=empowerment" thing is stupid. Anyone who's smart and strong knows it's stupid, so who are the victims of this stupid meme? The less smart and the less strong, who are looking for any kind of validation. It's cruel to push stupid things like this on people.

326 "Cargo Cult and Madonna: This idea that sexual looseness = 'empowerment' seems to have been given a massive lift by Madonna."

Many people on the right think that the 1980s were wonderful because, Reagan, no further explanation needed.

I don't recall the 1980s quite so fondly. Not least because I was looking at horrible excuses for human beings like Michael Jackson and Madonna being elevated to ultrasuperstardom, and thinking, "Something is going very very wrong with the national culture."

And I haven't found any reason since then to back off of that assessment.

327

<i>98 Okay Nearsider since you asked for it. - </i>

 

That was an inspired rant, thanks for reposting.  I missed the original.

 

And as to <i>  "I have sex occasionally because it feels good and gives me a feeling of validation." (No one ever admits the latter because it's a confession of weakness and vanity; I'm here to declare that that's a big part of sex, and that we are all, in fact, weak and vain, and that's... okay. Such are human beings.) </i>...

 

I'll cop to that.  Men are desperate, needy, worthless and horny creatures.  We can satisfy ourselves with a hand or a pomegranite, but it's a difference when a real live girl says "you are sufficiently non-repugnant that I will lick your junk".  Validation is a huge part of sex.

328 >>>>Can anyone in this stupid culture admit they ever do anything just because it gives them pleasure to do so? Must we all carry on with this absurd posture of Always Working For the Betterment of Man and Self?

Yes I admit it.
I'm not *proud* of my pursuit of pleasurable things. But not necessarily ashamed either.

If I were a better person I would do that less. But there it is like everyone I do it some. I even have a number of pursuits that are simple self gratification certainly not limited to sex.

I will discuss those many of those things with interested parties. We like to call it discussing one's hobbies or interests.

I think this idea that we all portray as self martyrs is a little inaccurate. We all discuss our extracurricular interests. Hobbies, stuff we like to do, like play video games, brew, hunt, fish etc etc. We aspire to be better and less self gratifying, and that isn't wrong.

This society right now is too focused on ME ME ME if you ask me though, so I don't see as championing self gratification as a necessary thing. Western civilization is not in danger of morphing into a monastic convent right this second. It's in danger of morphing into the Eloi.

329 Based on posts earlier in this thread, apparently my mistake was not doing something involving aircraft between college and starting my career.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 12, 2013 04:32 PM (B/VB5)

I will tell you having an Honorable Discharge and a degree didn't help me land a job nearly as much as I thought it would. 

It took me 3 years of part-time work to land a real job after I got out.

"Combat Rescue Swimmer" doesn't really translate well to the civilian world.

330 Frumious, it's even better when she says it in Tagalog

331 If I was 17 all over again, I wouldn't get within 100 feet of Calculus 151. **** Shit, as a guy, I would've never even bothered to be smart in that way if I had known how more important it would be to our culture to learn how to throw a football well.

332

 it's a difference when a real live girl says "you are sufficiently non-repugnant that I will lick your junk". Validation is a huge part of sex.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 12, 2013 04:34 PM (A0sHn)

I'll own that. 

"You're not such a shit sandwich that I won't touch you.  In fact, you may even be a pretty decent dude, so I'll bang you."

Feels nice.

333 I would've never even bothered to be smart in that way if I had known how more important it would be to our culture to learn how to throw a football well.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

334

I'm pro-truth and anti-stupid.

This "sex=empowerment" thing is stupid. Anyone who's smart and strong knows it's stupid, so who are the victims of this stupid meme? The less smart and the less strong, who are looking for any kind of validation.

It's cruel to push stupid things like this on people.

 

But that's Leftardism in a nutshell: pushing ridiculous concepts on the gullible and rebellious   that have been disproven  over the  course of many millennia. But, then again, there's always  as new crop of kids to foist their bullshit on, thus the never-ending cycle of stoopid.

335 311 How can you guys listen to music by someone who's had Sean Penn's dick in them? Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 12, 2013 04:27 PM (oO2S4) If she was edgy...mud shark.

336 1) Cum-guzzling gutter sluts are the best thing ever, because SEX!

2) Cum-guzzling gutter sluts are whores, and you should avoid them like the plague when finding the woman you are going to share your life with.

Both phases are great, but only one is actually right.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider

***

 

But we want the number 2 to be a number one in the bedroom.

337 Just as an aside: Our culture is so f***ed up, with everyone claiming to be Working Towards Some Important Cultural or Moral Good at all times, that apparently no one can say "I have sex occasionally because it feels good and gives me a feeling of validation." (No one ever admits the latter because it's a confession of weakness and vanity; I'm here to declare that that's a big part of sex, and that we are all, in fact, weak and vain, and that's... okay. Such are human beings.) A counter point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k

338

"Combat Rescue Swimmer" doesn't really translate well to the civilian world.

 

Au contraire, mon frere.  You could have sold that skillset to the Kennedy klan for big dollars.  OTOH, you'd have to follow those freaks around everywhere they went.

339

Should I mention my musician-type friends who would gladly insert their schlong in a pile of rocks just to see if, mayhaps, there was a snake in it?

These guys are usually pretty miserable in their personal lives, too. They have such a warped view of women and relationships that they can't have a successful marriage. The double standard is less pronounced that it appears to the culture at large.

Horn-dogs aren't very happy either.

 

Ever read the online comic Questionable Content? It is all about a bunch of hipster-types in Boston, with a few robots thrown in - deep melancholy underneath a veneer of "I'm OK, You'r OK" sleeping around, etc. I don't think the author has any idea how profoundly shallow the lives of his characters are, or how revealing it is.

340 But we want the number 2 to be a number one in the bedroom.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 12, 2013 04:41 PM (uhftQ)

Yup.  Lady in the street and a freak in the bed.

341 >>>'m not *proud* of my pursuit of pleasurable things. But not necessarily ashamed either. .>>If I were a better person I would do that less. But there it is like everyone I do it some. I even have a number of pursuits that are simple self gratification certainly not limited to sex. Of course. I'm not "proud" to be pleasure-seeking at times, but as long as I've done a day's work, why should i feel bad about it? Now some days I do in fact compromise the day's work in favor of wasting time (which is actually my Secret Shame, much more so than sex). But, on days when I've done a decent day of work and fulfilled my obligations, there's no shame in watching Survivor (I hope).

342 I don't recall the 1980s quite so fondly. Not least because I was looking at horrible excuses for human beings like Michael Jackson and Madonna being elevated to ultrasuperstardom, and thinking, "Something is going very very wrong with the national culture."

I don't have that problem, in part because MPPP's morning stories prove that stars in every decade of the 20th century were just as bad and frequently worse (especially compared to Madonna, who did nothing criminal, she just banged the entire NBA that one year).  I was never interested in Madonna or MJ as role models, but they both could sing damn well without Autotune and they both worked with great producers.

Also the national culture still was optimistic instead of in the permanent cringe we seem to be projecting now.

343 But, on days when I've done a decent day of work and fulfilled my obligations, there's no shame in watching Survivor (I hope).

RINO.

344 But, on days when I've done a decent day of work and fulfilled my obligations, there's no shame in watching Survivor (I hope).

No, Ace.  There is ALWAYS shame in watching Survivor.

345 **Yup. Lady in the street and a freak in the bed.** IDK, up until the full scale porning of america, standard sex was a-ok for most people (I assume). Most guys were happy to have it regular and monogamous (even if the monogamy was one sided). The SWUG lifestyle seems to lead to a lot of women in their late 30's writing a lot of articles about why can't men man up and marry them. Sorry, but the reasons for a guy to marry a girl are not the same as the girl's reasons to marry a guy.

346 Take my man card for what reason? Sex is better, and you get it much more frequently, in a commited relationship. This should be pretty basic.

347 Now some days I do in fact compromise the day's work in favor of wasting time (which is actually my Secret Shame, much more so than sex). ********* I do wonder where the time goes.

348 Ace, I've been out all afternoon and finally read this entire post a few comments. First off, thank you for continuing the discussion and bringing this Feminist Cult of Freedom Called Empowerment to a head (so to speak). I would add there is a deeper spiritual POV that needs to be added to the topic: God's Design. Not now - maybe another thread. You're preposition seems to be that this Empowerment push is nothing more than vanity, correct?

349 But, on days when I've done a decent day of work and fulfilled my obligations, there's no shame in watching Survivor (I hope). ...

350 102 It may have already been said but...Kim Kardashian. She became famous for having a big ass and a sex tape. Even worse are her sisters who became famous for having a sister with a big ass and a sex tape.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 12, 2013 03:49 PM (44PWr)

The tabloid in the check out lane said that Kim Kardashian now weighs more than 200 pounds.  I take this as evidence of the power of prayer.  Not prayers by jealous, catty women but prayers by men who wanted to fuck a woman with a body like Kim Kardashian.  It is also evidence that God has a sense of humor.

351 >>>Sorry, but the reasons for a guy to marry a girl are not the same as the girl's reasons to marry a guy.

And that's the real rub isn't it. If a guy gets enumerate different sexual partners on a regular basis, has his bros for moral support, friendship, and companionship, what really does he need a wife for? To spawn Gaia killing offspring? Please. This culture has made self gratification to the point of extinction a virtue. And while that doesn't align with female instinct (there actually is a demonstrated instinct to have children) it does align with male instinct. So the women who are looking at marriage rely on

1. Stupid men who are following custom for custom's sake.
2. Virtuous men who are genuinely interested in raising a family.

Both categories are shrunken, and continuing to shrink thanks to progressiveism. And women come of age and ask "why aren't there any good men?"

Maybe....just maybe, putting out for every guy with a great set of abs, because sex is a great time, is not the type of environment that produces "good men" worthy of or interested in marriage.

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."

352 "Can anyone in this stupid culture admit they ever do anything just because it gives them pleasure to do so? Must we all carry on with this absurd posture of Always Working For the Betterment of Man and Self?" On the other hand, Liberals seem to like to accuse gun owners of only defending gun ownership because it's fun. Yeah, it is, but that doesn't mean it isn't also important. But libs seem to think that, because it's fun, owning a gun isn't a "right" the way real rights, like pornography or gay sex, is a real "right" to them. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me, either.

353

Why buy the cow when the milk is free and really guys, do you honestly want a lifemate that has slept with more men than a hooker has?

354 I've pretty much given up on the Conservative movement as being inchoate, ineffectual, effete, having a complete disconnect between its representatives and its base, and probably doing far more harm than good. But I keep returning to AoSHQ for just this kind of stuff. Excellent writing by Ace. Excellent.

355 "I know you came here for empowerment, but all I've got here is this penis. But let's give it a whirl."

So no to World Peace; yes to Whirled Penis?

356 Take the Red Pill, Ace. http://heartiste.wordpress.com

357 Don't listen to him, girls. Sleeping with balding 35 year-old married dudes will empower the bejesus out of you.

358

Mr. Ace,

Fantastic well conveyed insight - I lurk. You write.  I read.  This is the natural and proper order of things.

359 "In the constellation of Difficult Things, inducing a 18-year-old boy to do something involving his penis is definitely not the most distant and difficult star to reach." Perhaps Ace's Greatest Line in my years of reading this site. . .

360 currently seeking a relationship involving dating, commitment or, at the very least, monogamous sex Yes, and? what are you bringing to the table, dearie? what makes you so special? what differentiates you from the pack of sorostitues you live with? Hint: heterosexual marriage as currently practiced in the USofA is a really bad deal for men. Why should we men bow and scrape for your favor? I've seen your taste in men. There are plenty of them around that would give you what you want, but here's the kicker: you look down on them as being nice guys, but you'd never date them. You want the bad boy. Well, guess what? he's not going to grow up any time soon. “Women Still Can’t Have It All,” per Anne-Marie Slaughter? I'll give you free clue: that was never true. For any one. The biggest lie told to feminists was "you can have it all". From the outside looking in, it would appear that men "could have it all": a family, a job, hobbies, etc. That simply isn't true. One makes choices, one makes sacrifices in order that the important things get done.

361 In the constellation of Difficult Things, inducing a 18-year-old boy to do something involving his penis is definitely not the most distant and difficult star to reach.

Epic line, Ace, epic.

I have two daughters in high school. They will hear this wisdom very soon.

362 Applauding. I've been listening to the "empowerment" nonsense for years, and never have- and never will- buy into that moonshine.

363 Posted by: Phat at April 12, 2013 06:43 PM (yD2zP) My father had a blunt discussion on that subject during high school. It saved me from serious misunderstandings that damaged many other girls. Also, 1).two brothers and honest male buddies. 2).Listening in on conversations between construction guys on the old company radio and 2) forced to listen to my young male debate team students discussing their love lives while driving them on four hours trips in the early am.-- The light dawned on the nature of guys. I'm not condemning you- I am just recognizing reality Good relationships happen, but not when you make a habit of throwing yourself under the bus wheels.

364 Jeez after reading that downer of an article all I can say is: if you are a tall intelligent attractive senior girl who wants marriage, this Marine will oblige. Im only 5' 6 but I qualify for BAH when I marry!

365 Something is worth what you're willing to pay to get it, no more and no less. They should have learned that in economics class, but economics, like life, is hard. It's twice as hard if you don't pay attention.

366 The only sense in which this is 'empowerment' is that it's saying "I decide who I fuck, when and how often I fuck them, and I demonstrate as I do so that nobody is going to have me stoned (in the geological sense rather than the chemical one) or flogged for doing so." THAT in itself is important, in that it distinguishes us in the West from certain people elsewhere in the world whose cultural and religious leanings we know all too well, but I agree that it does not in itself demonstrate anything resembling maturity on the part of the person doing the fucking. Compare the good Dr House's rant to a 12 year old female patient, which begins: "You think just because blood comes out of your vagina once a month..."