September 14, 2013
— Open Blogger OK, so I've always believed that those who take the dogmas of the religious system known as "progressivism", and faithfully follow them as much as possible, and to their logical endpoints as much as possible, and do this over the long term (for years) they will accumulate enough psychological and emotional damage that it will eventually manifest itself as physically. Progressivism, based as it is on falsehoods and outright lies, causes human beings to violate their own design specs, like ignoring the oil light on your car day after day.
All that seething hatred just twists you up inside and eventually it shows.
Well, looky here: This amusing photo slideshow appears to bear me out.
Yeah, I stole this from the ONT of a few days ago. But I think it's worth a re-run.
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Posted by: Dr. Sheldon Cooper at September 14, 2013 02:18 PM (WLm77)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 14, 2013 02:19 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Doctor Wayne Who at September 14, 2013 02:21 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 14, 2013 02:21 PM (fd0Pp)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 14, 2013 02:22 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 14, 2013 02:23 PM (fd0Pp)
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 14, 2013 02:24 PM (fd0Pp)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 14, 2013 02:25 PM (TOGBD)
Posted by: Wiserbud at September 14, 2013 02:28 PM (NXg/k)
LOL, I knew a girl in CA who did that. Sent me out to her car to check the red light that had been on for miles. It was low oil pressure. Read the dip stick, none showing. Took 5 quarts to fill it. IOW it was empty.
Posted by: Vic at September 14, 2013 02:28 PM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 02:29 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 14, 2013 02:31 PM (fd0Pp)
Posted by: CanaDave - Dusting off the anti-war slogans at September 14, 2013 02:31 PM (HgGeA)
Posted by: DC in Towson at September 14, 2013 02:31 PM (ZFinx)
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 14, 2013 02:32 PM (fd0Pp)
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 14, 2013 06:31 PM (fd0Pp)
Did I leave the italics open?
Posted by: Vic at September 14, 2013 02:32 PM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 02:32 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 02:34 PM (OMGh7)
Yep. It's fun, but a lot of the picture just show the difference between profile photos and TV pics, where people have been made up to look their best, and photos of how they actually look in everyday life.
Posted by: AD at September 14, 2013 02:34 PM (NmpZu)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 14, 2013 02:34 PM (0axsw)
Depends on what shape the rings are in. The lady I knew the rings were already pretty blown (which was why it was losing oil). So if the engine is not tight it will go for awhile before it seizes up.
Posted by: Vic at September 14, 2013 02:34 PM (zZbNF)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 02:35 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 14, 2013 02:35 PM (sQ0LB)
it would also be totes cool!
frogs, what are ya gonna do?Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 02:35 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 14, 2013 02:36 PM (fd0Pp)
I've run my '07 Accord up to 20K miles between oil changes
This is not a plan for automotive success.
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 02:37 PM (WLm77)
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 14, 2013 06:36 PM (fd0Pp)
Thanks
Posted by: Vic at September 14, 2013 02:37 PM (zZbNF)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 02:38 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Beto at September 14, 2013 02:38 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: EROWMER at September 14, 2013 02:39 PM (OONaw)
No oil on a older engine produces a progression of sounds.
Strainy -> thumpy -> mild clunky -> real insistent clunky -> loud bang -> silence
That progression might take seconds or minutes.
New tight ones often go straight from strainey -> silence.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 02:39 PM (9MLX+)
Everything the preznitwit is associated with turns to crap. The economy, foreign relations, even the looks of those around him.
He has the fecal touch.
Posted by: ExSnipe at September 14, 2013 02:40 PM (57ubW)
I've run my '07 Accord up to 20K miles between oil changes
This is not a plan for automotive success.
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 06:37 PM (WLm77)
Oil didn't even look dirty according to the technician. I've seen some gearheads posit that as long as the oil is clean and not leaking, there's no definite limit on how far you can go between changes with full synthetics in newer vehicles.
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 14, 2013 02:40 PM (sQ0LB)
Posted by: Beto at September 14, 2013 02:40 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 14, 2013 02:41 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: DC in Towson at September 14, 2013 02:41 PM (ZFinx)
Posted by: The Political Hat at September 14, 2013 02:42 PM (Vk2pI)
New tight ones often go straight from strainey -> silence.
All it takes is a little champagne, a quaalude (sp?) and a hot tub.
Posted by: Roman Polanski at September 14, 2013 02:42 PM (WLm77)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 14, 2013 06:41 PM (DHQv9)
fuckin' costco put nitrogen in my tires on my Infiniti, it irked the shit out of me. the car was like a dark british racing green and the little stem cap thingies were this annoying chartreuse-y color. it's a scam. i use regular old air on the jeep. the kind i breathe.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 02:43 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: TB at September 14, 2013 02:43 PM (8u/5i)
Posted by: Walter White at September 14, 2013 02:44 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 14, 2013 02:45 PM (DHQv9)
And you say that from here
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 02:46 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 14, 2013 06:45 PM (DHQv9)
If we fill the capitol rotunda and the surrounding buildings with carbon monoxide, we might have a chance . . .
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 02:46 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 14, 2013 02:46 PM (0HMaA)
Posted by: Lincolntf at September 14, 2013 02:47 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 14, 2013 06:46 PM (0HMaA)
I know, that whole nitrogen thing was a huge scam. Somebody must have bought a shitload of ugly-ass green stem caps and had to figure out how to unload 'em on the unsuspecting. 
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 02:48 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 02:49 PM (u6lBN)
Yep. I think that role landed him the gig on Everybody Loves Raymond.
'Did you know the shifter knob was loose? Have you been picking at it?'
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 02:50 PM (WLm77)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 02:50 PM (8lmkt)
OHC engines won't give you that kind of advance warning
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 02:51 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 14, 2013 02:51 PM (sQ0LB)
Factoid: In its initial testing by Mobil years ago, Mobile 1 was good for 100,000 miles or so before the oil itself became whupped. A really good standard paper spin-on filter was only good for 15k or so which limited Mobil's ability to claim a "100k mile oil"
So if you're using a full synth on a healthy broken in engine, you could just spin on a new filter every 7-10k, top up and motor on in most cases.
New engines should have several oil and changes within the first 3k because of all the metal particulates produced by the break in and ring seating process.
On any rebuilt engine I've built I ran'em on a stand before putting in the vehicle and change the oil after about 10-15 minutes. that first batch on a brand new motor will come out looking like metallic paint. Another change at 300-500mi comes out looking pretty metallic too. At 3-5k, its starting to clean up.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 02:51 PM (9MLX+)
Even the Walmart People said "wow, dude!"
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 02:53 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 02:54 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: SFGoth at September 14, 2013 02:55 PM (eQYhU)
Posted by: DAve at September 14, 2013 02:56 PM (b7yum)
Made it kind of obvious that he'd never been to Porn Valley
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 02:57 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Fritz at September 14, 2013 02:58 PM (4u+Q5)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 02:59 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: ʃnaʊzərSoße at September 14, 2013 03:00 PM (SM8RA)
Love rebuilding engines even though I don't get to do it much anymore. Everything having to be perfect and "just so" appeals to my INTJ personality.
With all the computer shit these days, its getting a lot harder to run an engine outside the vehicle though. Its not like it was 20-30 years ago.
If I own something, and don't consider it like a disposable toaster, then I want to know everything about it.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 03:02 PM (9MLX+)
# 70 Fritz. Had a 68 Dodge and a 74 Ford both pickups. Ran the same way as Samantha Power. heh!!1
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:02 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: DAve at September 14, 2013 03:03 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:03 PM (u6lBN)
And don't forget to flush...
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 14, 2013 03:04 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 03:05 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 14, 2013 03:06 PM (UeUjL)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 06:59 PM (u6lBN)
first thing I would do is take it to the mechanic. preferably on a work day. in fact, whoa, I could just make that shit up . . . hmmmmm.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 03:07 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: DAve at September 14, 2013 03:07 PM (b7yum)
Just had to go through the ignition system on the Galaxie. Condenser shit the bed.
Got a whole 3 months out of that one.
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 03:07 PM (WLm77)
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 03:07 PM (AXkR7)
And don't forget to flush...
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 14, 2013 07:04 PM
Radiator, heater core, freeze plugs, and if you have an aluminum block and/or heads pretty much everything under the hood
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 03:07 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:08 PM (u6lBN)
Leave your oil in the car forever if you wish. But remember that you're running all the contaminants generated through that engine--best of all through the bearings and lifters.
Modern engines are built to very tight specs for better emission control and mileage. They also run hotter and work harder.
Handicapping them unnecessarily doesn't help.
You don't NEED synthetic oil--an oil plus filter change every 3k will provide adequate protection for the engine.
BTW--read the owner's manual regarding maintenance-the part about severe service encompasses most people's"normal" driving.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 14, 2013 03:08 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: DAve at September 14, 2013 03:09 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Vic at September 14, 2013 03:10 PM (zZbNF)
The reservoirs and frame are, but the cooling fins are still metal
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 03:10 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:10 PM (u6lBN)
I bought a jug of VW expensive special pink shit when I did the timing belt on the diesel.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 03:11 PM (9MLX+)
87 "Leave your oil in the car forever if you wish. But remember that you're running all the contaminants generated through that engine--best of all through the bearings and lifters."
Isn't the filter there to deal with that?
Posted by: DAve at September 14, 2013 03:11 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: DAve at September 14, 2013 07:11 PM (b7yum)
sure, for the first 3000 miles or so . . . you ever seen one of those things, after it's been used? cripes, even I know that!
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 03:12 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:12 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: fastfreefall at September 14, 2013 03:12 PM (Tz35j)
Posted by: DAve at September 14, 2013 03:12 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 14, 2013 03:13 PM (UeUjL)
Posted by: DAve at September 14, 2013 03:14 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2013 03:14 PM (xHsEY)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 03:15 PM (8lmkt)
Story about coolant--does anyone remember the GM DexCool? The orange stuff that you didn't need to change?
Turns out that over time it turns to jelly in the tiny passages of heater cores, effectively plugging them.
The small SUV's were particularly prone to this. The fix was easy, just back flush using air pressure and water.
Then a refill with ethylene glycol and life was good.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 14, 2013 03:17 PM (SAMxH)
If you Bing it, the first thing to pop up is yahoo answers; it says every two to three years. Here's the thing, though -- I hate changing heater cores, so spending a couple of hours and less than $30 for antifreeze plus a flush agent every two years is worth it to me to not having to disassemble my dash. Besides, my mechanic buddy recommends it and I'll go with that.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 14, 2013 03:17 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:17 PM (u6lBN)
VW has been on that plastic impeller kick for years. My diesel has one and its a 98'.
Their service managers have all sorts of horror stories about those damned thing and dead engines.
I went with a good quality German made aftermarket water pump that had a metal impeller...which cost about 1/3 what the shitty plastic VW branded one would have.
If I bought a new VW today, I'd find a good aftermarket pump with metal impeller and make them change it out FOR FREE before I drove the car off the lot if they wanted to make that sale.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 03:17 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 14, 2013 03:17 PM (UeUjL)
Because in the actual post OM put the thing in about the oil light.
Posted by: Vic at September 14, 2013 03:18 PM (zZbNF)
Posted by: The Machine Hat at September 14, 2013 03:19 PM (Vk2pI)
Once when I changed oil in my tractor, I noticed that it was taking an abnormal amount if time for the oil pressure to come up. It was driving me crazy. I took off the filter mount and found no problem. Turned out to be a bad check valve in the filter was letting the oil drain back to the oil pan.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 03:19 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 14, 2013 03:20 PM (PjgvN)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:20 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 14, 2013 03:21 PM (UeUjL)
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 14, 2013 07:20 PM (PjgvN)
Henry Waxman.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 03:22 PM (8lmkt)
sure, for the first 3000 miles or so . . . you ever seen one of those things, after it's been used? cripes, even I know that!
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 07:12 PM
I left one on for 20K miles once. Took it off and dropped it and the thing was so dense it burrowed to the earth's core like a black hole
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 03:22 PM (/9IC1)
"71 Yeah, the first thing you do when an engine makes a funny noise is check the oil and the coolant. Maybe the fan belt too"
When I press the horn my car plays "My Humps". What should I check?
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 14, 2013 03:24 PM (DHQv9)
Engineers for The Chunnel used those nostrils as a design guide
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 03:24 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 14, 2013 03:25 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 14, 2013 03:26 PM (GrtrJ)
If your car is British, it's due to the Lucas Electric wiring and I'm afraid there's nothing you can do about it
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 03:26 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 14, 2013 03:26 PM (fd0Pp)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:27 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 03:28 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 03:28 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:29 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: nothinglefttolose at September 14, 2013 03:30 PM (K4AdI)
I only heard stories from g-pa about using straight alcohol in a radiator. Anybody here actually do that? heh.
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:32 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 14, 2013 07:24 PM (DHQv9)
Your sexual orientation . . .
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 03:32 PM (8lmkt)
Car-related news: I installed a ducktail spoiler on my FR-S today. With the aggressive front end, I thought the back needed just a wee more bit oomph to match the front and I gotta say I am one happy girl.
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 14, 2013 03:34 PM (GrtrJ)
I only heard stories from g-pa about using straight alcohol in a radiator. Anybody here actually do that? heh.
That was all that was available befor permanent antifreeze. Had to be drained out and replaced with water in the summer time.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 03:36 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: Vic at September 14, 2013 03:36 PM (zZbNF)
@ 124
Yep, TR, mixing the two is a no no.
GM originally used Dexcool as selling point in their extended maintenance program with the idea of reduced maintenance cost to the consumer.
That worked real well.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 14, 2013 03:37 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:38 PM (u6lBN)
>>> Whhhuuutttt!!? PLEASE tell me its like a 67 or something.
It's a 64 XL 500 Ragtop w/ 390 and a 4 spd.
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 03:38 PM (Vbik/)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 03:38 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 03:39 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 07:38 PM (Vbik/)
dammit, garrett . . . you know the rule, pics or . . .
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 03:39 PM (8lmkt)
If most of your driving is on rural highway or interstate east of the Rockies, you can let it go longer
If your driving consists of hours on Southern California freeways and streets, you have to do it a bit more often
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 03:40 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Fritz at September 14, 2013 03:41 PM (4u+Q5)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 03:41 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 14, 2013 07:26 PM (fd0Pp)
she's dating his wallet and his cellphone contacts
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 14, 2013 03:42 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 03:42 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 07:38 PM (Vbik/)
dammit, garrett . . . you know the rule, pics or . . .
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 07:39 PM
Could be one of these ...
http://tinyurl.com/lpcdbfn
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 03:43 PM (/9IC1)
#139 kbdabear. The short drives build more moisture in your engine and breaks down the oil faster, hence the more frequent changes.
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:44 PM (u6lBN)
I wouldn't even begin to know how to post pics, here.
She's red with a white top and black interior. She's a big, sexy beast.
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 03:44 PM (Vbik/)
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 03:45 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 03:45 PM (Vbik/)
Before:
http://tinyurl.com/n2xqn86
After:
http://tinyurl.com/kj2vs3h
And yeah, after years of hating my car, I am enjoying this one.
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 14, 2013 03:46 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 03:46 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 03:47 PM (8lmkt)
ted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 07:43 PM (/9IC1)
Dead ringer for the top left. Or the one on the top right, which has red interior.
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 03:47 PM (Vbik/)
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 03:48 PM (Vbik/)
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 14, 2013 07:46 PM (GrtrJ)
omg, DG, that is the cutest car!!!!
love the color, love the lines, and the new little DA on the back just makes it perfect.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 03:48 PM (8lmkt)
The thing ran continuous for what would have been like a million miles on the street without oil change. All they did was stop it once in a while to top up oil, change plugs, and an occasional timing belt change.
They got away with that because like 90% of the wear and particulate generation happens in an engine on cold starts when the oil pressure is zero and and shit ain't warmed up yet.
Under ideal lab condition on a continuous run, where all the bearings and seals are warm, thermally stable and floating on a film of oil, there is essentially zero wear.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 03:49 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 03:49 PM (4Mv1T)
Comfy and pretty damn fast. Just as long as handling wasn't all that important to you
They're worth a fortune if you have one now
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 03:49 PM (/9IC1)
She's red with a white top and black interior. She's a big, sexy beast.
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 07:44 PM (Vbik/)
sounds very cool, garrett. drive it like you stole it, that's actually what they made big sexy beast cars for, isn't it?
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 03:50 PM (8lmkt)
kawasaki 500 (biggest one they made at the time) and he is just damn lucky I didn't put him 6 feet under.
Was that the famous 500 triple? Later Kawa came out with a 750 triple. A real beast.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 03:50 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 07:48 PM (8lmkt)
Well thank you!
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 14, 2013 03:51 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:52 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at September 14, 2013 03:53 PM (/9iSQ)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 03:53 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 03:53 PM (4Mv1T)
I know, TR. We lived in Jersey and took it to the drags a couple of times. The other "contestants" (not sure that's the right word) paled and they made him race superstock, all by himself, even though it was a totally stock bike. Still, he is just damn lucky I didn't kill him that one day. He'd never popped into 5th gear before and there was my little tiny self, no helmet of course, on the back, and I started beating him about the head and shoulders and, well, fuck.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 03:54 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 07:47 PM
Probably wondered why the drive shaft was in the back yard of someone 3 blocks away
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 03:54 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 03:55 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 03:56 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 03:57 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 03:58 PM (u6lBN)
One of my best life's pleasures has been to own a vehicle that I loved again.
I have that vehicle now, and it's a clone of the original.
What cost brand new with 8 miles on it $2945.00 sports a 15k price tag to get it to its present shape.
It would sell, in present condition, for $29-33k. Not likely to happen, though.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 14, 2013 03:59 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 03:59 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 04:00 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 07:54 PM (/9IC1)
nope, they never knew. however, his best friend had one of the first GTOs ever made. they pulled into the driveway one day, car probably didn't have 3000 miles on it, and the thing burst into flames and was gone. he got another one, I think a '67, with the landau roof, and it was pretty cool. he'd take me out and floor it and I felt g-force. I fuckin' love muscle cars, always have, always will.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:00 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 04:01 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 04:01 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:02 PM (OMGh7)
lmao, read that this morning. best comment (at that time, probably of all time) "It was just Holder stopping by for a visit."
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:02 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 04:02 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:04 PM (OMGh7)
Before the Chrysler 300 I had 64 Cadillac 2 door hard-top all the bells and whistles. Way to expensive for a high school kid.
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 04:04 PM (u6lBN)
Anyone watching this story?
Zamboanga City, Philippines. I got this from 'Philippine Star' via PressDisplay website
The military said 55 people had been killed in the fighting, now on its sixth day, as a Marine and four rebels were killed in sporadic fighting throughout the city.
The fatalities were five government forces, three civilians caught in the crossfire, and 47 rebels.
Dozens have been wounded and more than 60,000 people displaced, with hundreds of homes razed and a hospital still in flames. Rebels have fired on government positions and seized civilians to use as human shields.
The heavy fighting shattered the ceasefire agreement brokered by Vice President Jejomar Binay with Misuari that should have taken effect midnight.
A ceasefire plan was discussed by Binay with Misuari and Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin late Friday.
Binay flew to Zamboanga City yesterday, joining President Aquino and top security officials to discuss the ceasefire agreement. which the Vice President announced late Friday night.
However, Gazmin “clarified that a ceasefire has never been implemented,” presidential deputy spokesperson Abigail Valte said yesterday. “Therefore (military and police) operations continued throughout the night and will continue as necessary,” she added.
Gazmin told ABS-CBN that any truce required a ceasefire by the rebels, who “are firing as we speak.”
He said the rebels continued to open fire in violation of the agreement.
“Everybody wants peace, to stop this without more bloodshed,” Gazmin told dzBB radio in a separate interview. “But as we speak, there’s firing so there’s no ceasefire. We agreed that government forces will not fire only if the MNLF will not open fire.”
Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) information chief Lt. Col. Ramon Zagala also said no ceasefire order has been issued.
Zagala said the troops are still under orders to continue to dislodge the MNLF rebels from the city.
Presidential Communications Development and Strategic Planning Office Secretary Ricky Carandang said the military operations are designed to “contain and constrict Misuari’s forces” in Zamboanga.
“Much as we would welcome a ceasefire, Misuari’s forces have not stopped attacking our soldiers and civilians,” Carandang said.
Some newspapers and radio stations reported that the truce was to have taken effect at midnight Friday, but there was no sign of a ceasefire in the city yesterday.
In Barangay Sta. Barbara, rebels fired rocketpropelled grenades at about 50 soldiers on a city street, wounding several troops.
The soldiers were attacking a five- story school building where rebel snipers were firing at them.
The Philippine Coast Guard station in the city was also strafed.
Zagala said just over a hundred rebels were left but were holding between 50 and 100 civilian hostages in several coastal districts, where the gunmen also set fire to many homes.
About 3,000 government troops were advancing on MNLF positions, Zagala said.
He described the military’s gains as “substantial” but refused to say which areas were retaken by security forces.
“As of now we have no ceasefire,” Zagala said. “We continue to conduct offensives to prevent them from further endangering the lives of the civilian population and destroying property.”
Zagala said the MNLF faction suffered 47 dead and 19 others had surrendered or been captured, meaning they have lost about a third of the estimated 180 gunmen who had infiltrated six coastal districts of Zamboanga City.
Five soldiers and policemen and three civilians have also been killed, while 46 members of the security forces and 24 civilians had been wounded, Zagala said.
Among the wounded were 11 Red Cross staff and volunteers who were trying to retrieve some of the wounded civilians and soldiers in Barangay Sta. Barbara. They were hit by mortar fire and grenade blasts on Friday.
Red Cross secretary-general Gwendolyn Pang said the 11 are now out of danger. She gave assurance the Red Cross would continue to assist the victims in the fighting.
About 69,000 residents have fled the fighting, said Office of Civil Defense regional chief Adriano Fuego.
Fuego said some 14,000 families are now staying in 20 evacuation sites.
He said they are also expecting more evacuees following the forced evacuation order of the city government implemented Friday.
Noy spends night in Zambo
President Aquino flew to Zamboanga City earlier Friday to visit government troops and some of the 24,000 residents displaced by the violence. He warned in a speech that the government would not hesitate to use force to end the crisis.
Valte said the President spent the night in Zamboanga City to oversee the security situation.
“He did not leave (Zamboanga City). The President is on standby and he will not leave them (the troops),” Valte said.
Aquino visited the Joaquin F. Enriquez Sports Complex, which was converted into an evacuation center.
The Department of Social Welfare and Development (DSWD) said 44,000 people, or some 7,000 families, are sheltered at the sports complex. Most of them came from the six barangays occupied by the rebels.
Since the crisis broke out, Aquino said the government has mobilized to ease what the evacuees were going through.
Aquino said Gazmin, Social Welfare Secretary Corazon Soliman and Interior Secretary Manuel Roxas II “served as my eyes and ears” to be able to address the needs of the people.
He said the Department of Trade and Industry, the Department of Transportation and Communications and the Department of Agriculture were prepared to ensure that there would be a continuous supply of food in the area.
He added the Department of Health was also prepared, and health centers were ready to respond to even the worst cases.
Level 4
Local officials led by Mayor Ma. Isabelle Climaco-Salazar met with Aquino and expressed support for the national government to take over the situation.
Salazar said the members of the city crisis management committee (CMC) had a meeting with the President late Friday and presented their decision to allow the national government to take charge.
She said the situation was raised to Level 4, meaning the national government is taking over the operation under the crisis management handbook.
“No foolish mistake will be made by the generals, then there should be no repeat of the Cabatangan siege. And the most important I want it to finish the crisis within the day,” Salazar said.
Salazar was referring to the November 2001 Cabatangan complex siege by the forces of Misuari that were led by his nephew, the late Julhambri Misuari.
The younger Misuari took dozens of civilians as human shields and managed to escape after they were given safe conduct pass by local authorities.
“The people do not want a repeat of the Cabatangan incident,” Salazar said.
Salazar said the CMC stressed before the President the safety of civilians during the operations.
Following the meeting with the CMC, Aquino directed the ground forces led by Western Mindanao Command chief Lt. Gen. Rey Ardo to apply “calculated” operations in resolving the crisis.
Salazar said the President got the consensus of top security officials led by AFP chief Gen. Emmanuel Bautista and Philippine National Police (PNP) chief Director General Alan Purisima.
The President also tasked Justice Secretary Leila de Lima to lead the investigation into Misuari and his men and gather all evidence in filing charges against them.
Aquino said he learned the charges of rebellion filed against Misuari in the Cabatangan hostage crisis in November 2001 were dropped for lack of evidence.
On the other hand, AFP spokesman Brig. Gen. Domingo Tutaan Jr. said the presence of the President in Zamboanga was a big morale booster for the troops.
Tutaan denied insinuations that Aquino was micromanaging the crisis in Zamboanga City.
He said the President visited Zamboanga City to see for himself the real situation on the ground.
“The President went there to look into the situation being the Commander-in-Chief. I think that was his purpose… to look if all the necessary government actions are there,” Tutaan said.
Tutaan said Brig. Gen. Felicito Virgilio Trinidad, Joint Task Force Zamboanga commander, and Westmincom commander Ardo are directly involved in the operations without any interference coming from top security chiefs.
“Our top leaders are only in Zamboanga to see to it that what is needed by the ground troops to accomplish their mission are immediately addressed without going through the routine and circuitous military channel,” Tutaan said.
‘Support your President’
Senate President Franklin Drilon, for his part, called on the public to support the President and his officials in resolving the crisis.
Zagala, meanwhile, also gave assurance the soldiers in the area have ample provisions, denying reports that the troops have resorted to begging for food from civilian residents.
Zagala said soldiers usually donÂ’t really mind skipping meals just to accomplish their mission.
Photographs posted on several networking sites showed some soldiers having their meals on the street with accompanying stories that they were buying their own food to augment their daily combat ration of porridge (lugaw).
“We are appealing to the media that reported that our soldiers have nothing to eat and are also running low on ammunition. It is not true. We are committed. If we could eat while on the ground, it’s not that we don’t have the food. Porridge is not included in military rations. The support of higher headquarters is complete from food, guns and bullets,” Zagala said.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 14, 2013 04:04 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 04:04 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 08:01 PM (4Mv1T)
My 250 2cyl came out of a road bike. The 250 1 cyl was used in the Enduros. In fact I still have a 250 Yamaha dirt bike made in 1971. My freinds 360 1 cyl came out of a dirt bike.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 04:05 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:06 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 04:06 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 14, 2013 04:06 PM (DHQv9)
Surely is, TR.
For those who don't know, it's a 1968 Plymouth Road Runner 2 door sedan--a post car, in the lingo.
Every bit of the work done except the machine shop stuff has been on me. It was a literal basket case when I bought it.
Took us 2 trips to get all of the pieces home and about 6 years of tinkering.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 14, 2013 04:07 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 14, 2013 04:07 PM (8sCoq)
Then I pulled over and shook for a while. Too much machine for me.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 14, 2013 04:07 PM (cHZB7)
...and a suspension and rubber that could actually handle about 150 of that 220 while accelerating into an on-ramp.
Shit got all loose and squirrely like an old 911 with soft rear tires.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 04:08 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 04:10 PM (u6lBN)
>>> Shit got all loose and squirrely like an old 911 with soft rear tires.
Those fox body mustangs need a little work to the suspension to get the most out of that engine...I always wanted an 95 SVO Mustang to play with.
Those things will pull a G on the skid pad. Perfect balance.
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 04:11 PM (Vbik/)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 08:00 PM
The GTO 389 was scary fast in a way that even Chevelle SS weren't
GM had an official "no racing" rule, the divisions were rather creative in creating cars that were fast but not officially for racing
The 389 seemed to have more torque than GM's other engines including the Chevy 427. Driving a GTO was like trying to bronco ride a pissed off lion
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 04:11 PM (/9IC1)
And then she got high, she got high, she got high.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at September 14, 2013 04:11 PM (Q9qpj)
Posted by: Sarah Palin at September 14, 2013 04:12 PM (Q9qpj)
I shared that story because:
1. they are actually killing the muslim invaders instead of negotiating with them and
2. O'fuckstick is going to the Philippines in October.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 14, 2013 04:12 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:12 PM (OMGh7)
My brother had the H3 750 for about a year in the early 80s. It had been modded a bit and was frightening as hell.
This was back when we lived in Thousand Oaks. It was more stable with a passenger and he had a particularly witless friend who was eager to see what the top speed would be. Starting from around Calabasas about 2 AM, they mad a speed run north on the 101. At one point they caught a CHP's attention, who called in reinforcements to try cutting him off. Realizing he needed to hide quickly, he got off at Moorpark and pulled into a nearby restaurant he had worked at in the past, so he knew exactly what he could do with the bike. He pulled the dumpster out of the enclosure, parked the bike and left their helmets and jackets on it. Then they put back the dumpster and rushed inside. They got a table quickly and when the waitress, who was a long time friend of his, came by the table, about a dozen CHP cars could be seen going by on the overpass, lights and sirens blazing.
"They looking for you?"
"Maybe. What have you heard?"
Posted by: Epobirs at September 14, 2013 04:13 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 04:14 PM (4Mv1T)
Looks like tonight might be the last chance to get the old girl out on the road for a bit.
See you all on the ONT.
Posted by: garrett at September 14, 2013 04:14 PM (Vbik/)
Yes . . . and he rocked it, may God rest his soul. I was a lucky little girl. College bff's skeevy boyfriend had a really cool Challenger. Hurst shifter and some kinda balls-out clutch that we were physically unable to depress to the point of changing gears. I think it was purple. The goat made it look like somebody's maiden aunt.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:15 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:16 PM (OMGh7)
Late versions of the Pontiac Trans Am had a 5.7 liter rated at 300hp, but some GM folks admitted that they underplayed the specs so that buyers wouldn't figure out that they could get a faster car than the Corvette at half the price
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 04:16 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 04:17 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 04:17 PM (4Mv1T)
le soothsayier (the french version)
You are talking Lincoln here. I'm much too poor to be buying that kind of uppity vehicle.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 04:19 PM (AXkR7)
I bought my Jeep for two reasons, besides the fact that the J30T started having fuel injector issues and there were way too many of the fuckin' things. The Jeep is cuter than a bug's ear and it gets me way up high. I love being high. Always have.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:19 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:20 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: angel with a sword at September 14, 2013 04:20 PM (hpgw1)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 14, 2013 04:20 PM (ZPrif)
Mustangs always had adequate power, problem was getting it to the pavement. Things did love the sideways mode.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 14, 2013 04:21 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 04:22 PM (9MLX+)
the 900 was a BEAST. didn't they make a lot of cop bikes out of that, or was that the 1000?
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:22 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 04:22 PM (4Mv1T)
Was that the RD250 engine? I had one of those until my brother crashed it when he was attending LA Trade Tech, studying to be a mechanic. He was going to do some work on it. The weather in the mornings was very cold for LA, and he had this nice Air Force surplus flight suit. But it got very warm by the time he was riding home and he got overheated and passed out. He rolled under an 18 wheeler. Fortunately for him, he and the bike parted ways almost immediately and he came out of it with just bruises. The bike went under the rear wheels and was smooshed.
My next and final bike was a Honda 400/4. I'd become wary of my chances as a motorcycle rider, as I didn't consider my skills a match for either of my brothers and both of them had been in some bad crashes. They don't look messed up but they both got some extra aches and pains in their daily lives.
Sold my Honda to buy a floppy drive for my first computer. Yes, a floppy drive was that expensive back then.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 14, 2013 04:22 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 04:23 PM (u6lBN)
When you got behind the wheel of a 389 GTO, you knew it wanted to kill you
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 04:24 PM (/9IC1)
OMFG!!!
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:24 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 04:25 PM (4Mv1T)
Now get off my lawn
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 04:26 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Trainer's looking to join a Militia. at September 14, 2013 04:27 PM (7EbAY)
No, it was not the same car, balls-wise. But it was still pretty fuckin' good, in the right hands.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:27 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 14, 2013 04:27 PM (NZeb5)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 04:28 PM (u6lBN)
get one of those shirts that says "if you can read this, the bitch fell off?"
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:28 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 04:29 PM (4Mv1T)
Well I had to know, right?
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 08:29 PM (4Mv1T)
Gaining knowledge is never time wasted, TR.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:30 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 04:30 PM (u6lBN)
Fast little bastards, those were the car you told your mom "it isn't a race car mom, it's an economy car"
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 04:31 PM (/9IC1)
...then the epidemic suspension issues and recalls started surfacing...
I had 18" rims and 40's on it though and that made a big difference over the stock setup.
I should have kept it. Today, I have the patience to go through all its known issues and rectify them with permanent inexpensive aftermarket fixes. At the time I didn't.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 04:31 PM (9MLX+)
Was that the RD250 engine?
Posted by: Epobirs at September 14, 2013 08:22 PM (kcfmt)
That sounds right. I still have the little race car with the engine. Haven't fired it up for many years. My BIL made a race track that went through a creek. One day we got the crazy idea to race the track clockwise instead of the way we had been going. Since my car had a solid rear axle and it was under powered, you had to get the back end loose to turn (under steer). I drove off the creek bank and ended up with the car on top of me. Trip to the emergency room. Nothing real serious.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 04:32 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 04:32 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:34 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 14, 2013 04:35 PM (RiiSi)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 14, 2013 04:35 PM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 04:35 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:36 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 04:36 PM (9MLX+)
Yes, both. Big Kawasaki's had the cop bike market sewn up in many states for a very long time.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 14, 2013 04:37 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 14, 2013 04:38 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:38 PM (OMGh7)
Oh God no.
Who are they going to get to play me, Justin Timberlake?
You were talking about that upcoming movie with Affleck as Batman, weren't you?
Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at September 14, 2013 04:38 PM (NrYe5)
b) 1977 Trans Am (the Bandit's car)
c) 1974 Datsun 240Z any stock color
d) 1972 Corvette, orange or yellow
e) 1988 Buick Regal Grand National
f) 1976 GMC Jimmy
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 08:34 PM
The Grand National. Fastest production car of the 80s
Anything made in the 70s cannot be in mint condition, you could hear them rusting in the dealer lots when they were new
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 04:38 PM (/9IC1)
88 Buick Regal grand National for me first
69 Camaro. Any color but red!
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 04:38 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at September 14, 2013 04:39 PM (L1CXd)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:40 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:40 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 04:41 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:42 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:42 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 08:41 PM (u6lBN)
yeah, the whole car weighed probably less than I do, very hard to control. that's where teh goat came in and solved everyone's problems . . .
and, to a lesser extent, the challenger and the camaro and the chevelle.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:43 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 14, 2013 04:43 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:44 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:45 PM (8lmkt)
One almost disaster due to the crank locking tool being an egregious piece of shit and insufficient paranoia in trusting it to actually work as advertized. Once that was rectified all is well.
Next time, I'm going to find another way to lock the crankshaft at TDC.
Since the TB job I've cleaned out the intake manifold, which made a HUGE difference. Thing was so caked up with carbon from the EGR system it was about the diameter of a pinky finger rather than a soda can...so the turbo wasn't doing squat.
Apparently this manifold cleaning every 80k or so is a thing with the VW diesels of that era. Its messy, and takes a few hours, but inexpensive. Under $20 in fresh gaskets and cleany goop...and you can put it off until its convenient.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 04:45 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 08:40 PM (8lmkt)
I'm not and expert, my brain is mostly fermented, but I think the 427 ci engine had 3 different hp ratings and I don't remember what they were.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 04:45 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 04:46 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 04:46 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 04:46 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 08:40 PM
That's the 327 fuel injected Stingray. If you have the split window go see an auctioneer, you're about to get rich
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 04:47 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 14, 2013 06:46 PM (0HMaA)
I know, that whole nitrogen thing was a huge scam. Somebody must have bought a shitload of ugly-ass green stem caps and had to figure out how to unload 'em on the unsuspecting.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 06:48 PM (8lmkt)"
Filling tires with nitrogen is not really a scam if you are going to keep the tires for years and not put enough miles on to wear out the tread first. By not having oxygen in there you slow down the rate of chemical deterioration. If you drive so much that you will wear out the tread in a couple of years, it won't matter. Nitrogen doesn't hurt anything and if they don't charge for it I can't see being upset.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at September 14, 2013 04:47 PM (31Nrp)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:48 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:49 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 04:50 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 08:35 PM (8lmkt)
Ditto. I'd rather have an Austin Healey, Jaguar-E type, '57 Bel Aire or '63 'Vette split-window if I had to chose classic car.
Otherwise, I'll keep what I have.
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 14, 2013 04:50 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:51 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 08:47 PM (/9IC1)
That right there is what I'm talkin' about. Our neighbor had one and it was just the tits. Pale yellow, this was in the early 70s. We knew then that it was a keeper. And, no, I don't gots one.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:51 PM (8lmkt)
Drive one now and you'll feel less excitement than driving a minivan
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 04:51 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 14, 2013 04:52 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 04:52 PM (4Mv1T)
I forgot the other part. While this was happening I was out on the carnival circuit with the guy I'd been working for at swap meets, parades, and other events since I was fourteen. I turned seventeen while traveling with his sideshow. His father, John A.J. Strong, Sr. had a circus that used to winter in Thousand Oaks, where I grew up. (To the extent that I ever grew up.)
I would call home once a week to assure my mother I was still alive and well. (One week I called from jail in Merced but it was worked out within a few hours.) On one call, a few days after my brother's crash of which I had yet to be told, I asked, "Has anyone been riding my bike?" It was alright for my brother to take it to school for the purpose of working on it. It had been a cheap fixer-upper in the first place. But I didn't want the brothers taking it out for screwing around.
Mom told me that nobody was riding the bike and I didn't pursue the issue any further. But something in her voice made me suspicious. When the week came when we were calling it a season and headed home, I didn't tell my family I was soon to arrive.
I got a ride to my house with my stuff and told my friend to wait. I sneaked up to the front door and heard my brother's voices. I rushed inside and headed straight for the back door. The brothers leaped to their feet from the couch and tried to stop me. There in the backyard, only barely recognizable, was the remains of my RD250.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 14, 2013 04:52 PM (kcfmt)
They were beautiful. Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 08:49 PM
Those and the late 60s Chrysler New Yorkers were favorites of mob hit men due to the fact that you could whack a whole crew and have plenty of trunk space left over
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 04:53 PM (/9IC1)
You know, I should've included the Mitsubishi GT300. That was a helluva car.
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 08:42 PM (OMGh7)
I worked at a Mitsu dealer for a while in the early 2000's and everyone who still owned one of those was crazy in love with them. Head over heels.
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 14, 2013 04:53 PM (GrtrJ)
lot to be said for an interesting life, my friend (don't ask me how I know).
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:54 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 04:54 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 04:54 PM (MhA4j)
They were beautiful. Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 08:49 PM
I liked the Delta 88, but it didn't float like I thought it would
Posted by: Ted Kennedy at September 14, 2013 04:54 PM (/9IC1)
I have always changed the oil in my car every 3000 miles. However, since I really only use the thing on weekends now that I live close to my job, it took me 8 months to put 3000 on my last car. My brother (who was once a truck mechanic) told me that was fine; however, my brother in law and sister thought I was nuts for letting it go so long. The thing that ticks me off is that 2 weeks after the oil was changed and I got a new headlight and wiper blades put in I got a fantastic deal on a new (used) car in mint condition and I sold the old one - a 1998 Maxima which ran beautifully but the underbody was seriously rusting away. I wouldn't have gotten the damn oil change if I knew it would be scrapped soon.
With this new car (2002 Monte Carlo with only 80,000 miles on it - snagged it for $5,000!!!), it was kept in such beautiful condition by it's one and only previous owner that I'm inclined to follow my brother-in-law's advice on this. Maybe not every 3 months, but certainly sooner than 8 months.
Posted by: Donna V. at September 14, 2013 04:55 PM (R3gO3)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:55 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:55 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 04:56 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 14, 2013 04:56 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 04:57 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 14, 2013 08:56 PM (GrtrJ)
jeez, who would?? 
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 04:57 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 14, 2013 04:57 PM (XdnQT)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 04:58 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 04:59 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:00 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 08:55 PM
You're thinking of the 63 to 65, which were gorgeous
The late 60s Rivieras were big ass pimp cars like the El Dorado or Toronado, but RWD rather than FWD
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 05:01 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 08:54 PM (u6lBN)
just build the biggest garage the space will accommodate
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 14, 2013 05:01 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at September 14, 2013 05:01 PM (YNK3y)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 09:00 PM
Amen my brothah!!
Posted by: Huggy Bear at September 14, 2013 05:03 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:03 PM (OMGh7)
As long as you can pull the dip-stick or oil filler cap, and not see milky white crud, then its being run often enough to boil off any water condensation out of the oil pan.
If its run for say a half hour or so and gets good and warm every couple of weeks it should be fine unless you live in a tropical rain forest.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 05:03 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 14, 2013 05:04 PM (3j24r)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:04 PM (OMGh7)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 05:05 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 09:01 PM (/9IC1)
yeah, except they looked so sexy and gangstah . . . they were the shit!
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 05:05 PM (8lmkt)
duct tape and a shovel
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 14, 2013 05:05 PM (8sCoq)
They had independent rear suspension with a transaxle setup in the rear, 60/40 weight distribution and handled fantastically for an American car of that era
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 05:06 PM (/9IC1)
I just remembered an entertaining moment I had the other day. I was sitting on the front steps of my building waiting for a friend to pick me up when a Smart Car plastered with Obama and Tolerance and I love Mother Earth bumper stickers pulled up right in front of me and tried to parallel park. The hipster progtard driving the thing was trying to get into a space big enough to park a Hummer in and he was driving the dinkiest (and ugliest) car in creation and still he see-sawed back and forth forever like he was trying to squeeze into some tiny little space. When he finally parked, he was a good 4 feet from the curb. If he hadn't had all the Marxist stickers on the car I would have walked over and directed him; instead, I sat there and smiled and he saw I was watching and so got more flustered. He was beet red when he got out of the car.
Smart car has liberal bonehead for owner.
Posted by: Donna V. at September 14, 2013 05:06 PM (R3gO3)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 05:07 PM (8lmkt)
The maximum possible. Remember -- its like a law of physics or something that crap expands to fill all available space.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 05:07 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 08:57 PM (8lmkt)
Yeah, except now he's looking to get one back, which is going to cost him ten times what it did back then, plus whatever headache it takes to put it back together. I'm trying to convince him just to buy a new '14 model.
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at September 14, 2013 05:08 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 05:08 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:09 PM (OMGh7)
And don't forget to flush...
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 14, 2013 07:04 PM (cHZB7)"
It also has lubricants which keep your water pump from failing. Those lubricants break down after a couple of years.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at September 14, 2013 05:10 PM (31Nrp)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:11 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 05:12 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:12 PM (MhA4j)
And Dems are usually the ones bringin' it.
Posted by: PJ at September 14, 2013 05:12 PM (ZWaLo)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:12 PM (wb2JH)
It will take climate scientists many months to complete studies into whether manmade global warming made the Boulder flood more likely to occur, but the amount by which this event has exceeded past events suggests that manmade warming may have played some role by making the event worse than it otherwise would have been.
Never let a crisis go to waste.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 14, 2013 05:12 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 09:05 PM
1971 Caddy Eldorado from the movie Soul Men
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkc3AQtWbfc
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 05:12 PM (/9IC1)
don't do that. srsly. you're not the only one who is doing shit you don't particularly enjoy all day, every day. no, i didn't read the whole thing, but take some deep breaths, drink until you pass out and soldier on, buddy, because THAT is what WE do. xoxo
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 05:13 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at September 14, 2013 09:10 PM (31Nrp)
One can also buy additives to renew the antifreeze. Not saying it's as good as new.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 05:13 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 05:14 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:15 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 05:15 PM (/9IC1)
No shit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jocelyn_Bell_Burnell
I'm a complete sexist reactionary and I think she was boned out of a Nobel.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 14, 2013 05:16 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 09:15 PM (/9IC1)
No, that's a moron in good standing in existential crisis mode. He needs to buck up. He posted that for a reason. Get busy, morons, he needs help pulling his chestnuts out of the fire. You don't get that close to a doctorate and say, fuck it, the minimum wage is 10 bucks an hour in California now. I say we err on the side of compassion here.
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 05:17 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 14, 2013 05:18 PM (d7tB2)
315 Being an odd duck, I would love to have a 1963 Pontiac Tempest with the 326
They had independent rear suspension with a transaxle setup in the rear, 60/40 weight distribution and handled fantastically for an American car of that era
I hear that!
Posted by: Cousin Vinny at September 14, 2013 05:18 PM (N3Al8)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:18 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:18 PM (wb2JH)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:19 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:19 PM (wb2JH)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 05:19 PM (u6lBN)
I brought the idea up once and he thought it was cool, but he never took it further than that
I'd volunteer to write it and babysit the comments
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 05:19 PM (/9IC1)
I had a 66 Toronado for a couple of years, at the peak of a little Olds love affair I had late in their life. 425 engine, front wheel drive (the first US frontie in 30 years), and with no transmission hump, you could seat 4 in the front seat. Literally too much room. It was quick for its age, fast, handled well enough to think that when it was new it would have been scary (they owned Pike's Peak). And it delivered a surprising 17 MPG, about twice what I expected when I got it. Smartasses, when it came out, always asked you to pop a wheelie in reverse.
Do not ever confuse the real Toros with that sad thing that came later.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 14, 2013 05:20 PM (JNUY4)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:21 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 05:22 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:22 PM (wb2JH)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 09:22 PM (4Mv1T)
taxpayer funded, no doubt . . .
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 05:23 PM (8lmkt)
Mine was a 77 Ford T-Bird. Two engines blown on a luxury car, the wheels were a bad design that held air about as long as an asthmatic 350 lb man, and the paint could be removed simply by wiping your hand on it three or four times
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 05:23 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:24 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:24 PM (wb2JH)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 05:24 PM (8lmkt)
Any Ford/Chevy fistfights will require dousing with a hose.
Don't leave out the Mopar guys. I'm sure they would like to get in a lick or two. I'm not one of them.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 05:24 PM (AXkR7)
Not surprising at all.
I put a stock 1961 vintage 1200cc bug engine in a late model Super Beetle and got an honest 40mpg out of it.
How is it that bone stock 50+ year old engine tech delivers results most would envy today shoving around a similarly size 1800lb vehicle?
What's wrong wrong with this freaking picture?
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 05:26 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 14, 2013 05:26 PM (89r5W)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 05:26 PM (4Mv1T)
bonus: what make was the Green Hornet's car?"
I read an article online about that years ago written by the guy who customized one of those vehicles but can't recall the specifics now; I'm not really a car buff anyway.
But I have to add parenthetically that I thought the 1960s Black Beauty was a lot classier looking than that garish Bat-pimpmobile rolling out of the Batcave every week that Adam West was driving.
Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at September 14, 2013 05:27 PM (NrYe5)
What became the iconic Batmobile used in the 1966–1968 live action television show and its film adaptation was a customized vehicle that originated as a one-off 1955 Lincoln Futura concept car. Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 09:19 PM
I wrote about it on my blog last year
http://tinyurl.com/9bebwxo
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 05:27 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Purp at September 14, 2013 09:26 PM (9MLX+)
You already know the answer.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 05:27 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 05:28 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:28 PM (wb2JH)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 05:28 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Capt. James T Kirk at September 14, 2013 05:28 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Peaches at September 14, 2013 05:29 PM (8lmkt)
I skipped by it initially, but went back and read Islamic Rage Boy's very long post. I once wanted to become a college English professor. I had a few high school and college English teachers who were so excellent, so imbued with the love of literature and learning, that it made me want to do the same. By the time I entered grad school, I realized such teachers and profs are the exception not the rule. I also realized that by that point (the late '80's), Dead White Male fiction (the kind I loved best) was out and to get ahead in academia, I'd have to profess lefty politics (and I was turning conservative then) and focus on Oppressed Left-Handed Lesbian Authors of Color.
I feel for anybody who wants to enter academia because of love and learning and discovery nowadays and discovers it's a racket and a snakepit.
Posted by: Donna V. at September 14, 2013 05:30 PM (R3gO3)
1966 Chrysler Imperial
They used the same car for the Seth Rothgen movie, I watched them film at night in front of my apartment building in LA
Posted by: Capt. James T Kirk at September 14, 2013 05:30 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 14, 2013 05:31 PM (jucos)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:31 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 05:32 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:33 PM (wb2JH)
All I can say after driving quite a few front wheel drive cars and many rear wheel drive cars, the fwd vehicles suck in slick conditions. I can steer with the rear axle if I have to on a rwd, not so with a fwd.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 05:33 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 14, 2013 05:33 PM (89r5W)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 14, 2013 05:34 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 05:36 PM (4Mv1T)
The weak spot was the engine-speed flexible driveshaft, usually called a rubber band. And, the OHC always used a little oil.
For a couple of years there, Corvair included, GM was really trying to meet the rest of the world with something new. They pretty much got ass-reamed for that, and went off in a different direction.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 14, 2013 05:37 PM (JNUY4)
Da BEARS!!!
just taught my soontobe 12yo how to make a Chicago deep dish pizza
we'll see in 15 more minutes how it comes out
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 14, 2013 05:37 PM (M1wQA)
hello, 5mpg
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 09:33 PM (wb2JH)
++++++++++++++++
Not that bad. They averaged about 8mpg. You could only get the 500 cu in on the 1971 thru 76 models. Gas gage moved like a minute hand on a clock,
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 14, 2013 05:37 PM (jucos)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 05:40 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:40 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at September 14, 2013 05:40 PM (IlZPo)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:41 PM (NA/ol)
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 05:42 PM (AXkR7)
" Let's talk about the WORST cars you've ever experienced, should bring teh funneh"
I had a 1980 Pontiac T1000, a hatchback which took oh, maybe 10 minutes to go from 0 to 60. The first time I took on the freeway - the Beltway, no less - I damn near thought I would surely be rearended. I'd sit there in the right lane, sweating bullets and watching it slooowly inch up from to 30 to 40 to 50 (you would have thought it was powered like Fred Flintstone's car) with people passing me and honking and giving me the finger, and I'd floor the pedal trying to get it to move, damnit, and suddenly it would go full speed and I'd be right on the ass of the car in front of me.
It was OK for city driving, but since I had to take the Beltway to get to work, I soon got rid of it. I figured either I would die in a crash in that car or someone would shoot me.
Posted by: Donna V. at September 14, 2013 05:43 PM (R3gO3)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:43 PM (MhA4j)
how about...
quick, what kind of car did Daisy Duke drive before her Jeep and what happened to it? Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 09:24 PM
1973 Plymouth Road Runner
http://tinyurl.com/k8hyowz
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 05:44 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 14, 2013 05:44 PM (tyEJh)
But the accessories, ancillaries and appurtenances required constant attention. Hard to think of now, but in those days, air conditioning and power windows were still kind of "ga-zow." And Cadillac luxury parts were known for that, even in the 30's. You were supposed to have the rubber body suspension bumpers spray-oiled to prevent squeaks. And, if you oiled them, they didn't squeak. But, jeeze.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 14, 2013 05:45 PM (JNUY4)
1970 VW Beetle Convertible with 2 on the floor, electric clutch, 1600cc of raw power able to go from 0-60 in about 5 minutes. Had it throughout high school and for 3 years in the navy. Sold it in 1977.
Most enjoyable car I ever owned.
Posted by: ExSnipe at September 14, 2013 05:46 PM (57ubW)
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 05:46 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 05:47 PM (4Mv1T)
In slick conditions you should treat a FWD different than a RWD.
Just aim steering wheel in the direction you want to go and put your foot into it hard and ignore what the ass end is doing.
Buddy and I raced a rented VW Jetta on one of those Lake George Icekahanas years ago against a bunch of Corvettes. It performed very very well compared to the Vette's. We rented it and maxed the insurance cuz we weren't sure how thick the ice was...
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 05:48 PM (9MLX+)
i'm a cabbie
from Chicago
you just know that I am not only the safest but best driver here bar none
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 14, 2013 05:48 PM (M1wQA)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 14, 2013 05:48 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 14, 2013 05:49 PM (jucos)
Posted by: t-dubya-d at September 14, 2013 05:49 PM (u6lBN)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:50 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 14, 2013 05:51 PM (CMftU)
Posted by: Steve at September 14, 2013 05:52 PM (2WGFu)
Got a credit question for you all: given my credit isn't very good (it's just past the 630s last I checked), how much downpayment cash do you think I'd need to bring to the Honda dealership to get decent/non-usurious five-year financing?
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 05:52 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 05:52 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 09:33 PM (wb2JH)
++++++++++++++++
Not that bad. They averaged about 8mpg. You could only get the 500 cu in on the 1971 thru 76 models. Gas gage moved like a minute hand on a clock, Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 14, 2013 09:37 PM
The 1976 Caddy 500 engine was so bad it only put out 190hp with 360 ft lb of torque. Pulling a 5300 lb vehicle, steep hills were a challenge
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 05:53 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:53 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:54 PM (soKpm)
Congress unlikely to vote on use of military force...
Obama: Military action still on table...
Obama is like some guy in a bunker shifting troops around who no longer exist.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 14, 2013 05:54 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 14, 2013 05:55 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 05:55 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 05:55 PM (soKpm)
"Refund? Refund?! REFUND??!!"
Love that movie.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 05:55 PM (xY8+2)
Got a credit question for you all: given my credit isn't very good (it's just past the 630s last I checked), how much downpayment cash do you think I'd need to bring to the Honda dealership to get decent/non-usurious five-year financing?
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 09:52 PM
Ally (formerly GMAC) is financing GM cars to anyone with a pulse, kind of like the NINJA home loans. Subprime car loans along with dealer channel stuffing is why GM is still nominally showing good sales numbers
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 05:56 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 14, 2013 05:56 PM (d7tB2)
Posted by: EC at September 14, 2013 05:56 PM (QyabZ)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:57 PM (MhA4j)
(O)(O)
They sucked ass...really really bad. People should have been paid to take them away.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 05:57 PM (9MLX+)
Anyone planning to see "Gravity" or "Prisoners" when they open soon? For the first time in a long time, there's actually some movies out there that look like they're worth spending money at the theater to see.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 05:58 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: @piersmorgan at September 14, 2013 05:58 PM (FcR7P)
Although my *very* conservative sister and bro-in-law love their new Jeep Grand Cherokee. Hmm...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 05:59 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 05:59 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Purp at September 14, 2013 09:48 PM (9MLX+)
I was mostly playing around in my yard in snow, had a couple experiences on streets. Not racing. I'm guessing the 'vettes were mostly having trouble getting the power down. I still stand by my opinion in normal driving.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 05:59 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: Reggie at September 14, 2013 06:00 PM (FcR7P)
The Comet, of course, was a Mercury. I don't think it's fair to damn a car because you got it free after it had the shit beat out of it and someone else was about to throw it away. Now, if you get an old car cheap and it surprises you how well it held up, that's different. But cars are supposed to be taken care of, and it's not the car's or it's maker's fault you can't afford to do that.
Or, as the Pike's Peak Railway ticket agent told my dad when he asked if it was possible to drive up there, "A few of them make it."
http://tinyurl.com/885oe5a
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 14, 2013 06:02 PM (JNUY4)
Yeah, we would have gone with that "gay guy killed by his lover and co-meth-dealer" story, but, you know, the Narrative must be fed.
Posted by: The MSM at September 14, 2013 06:02 PM (bKA83)
K was for Kaboom
That's right. Those Plymouth Reliants and Dodge Aries were carrying Kaboom families, making public their shame
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 06:02 PM (/9IC1)
On the ice, the ass ends broke loose way too easy, and they lost all effective power when that happened.
The Jetta couldn't win a drag race with a Vette, but around the cones on ice it shined.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 06:03 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 06:03 PM (4Mv1T)
No, Barry, those are cards. Now, deal! Posted by: Reggie at September 14, 2013 10:00 PM
I've still got armies in North Africa!!
Posted by: Barack Obama, RISK taker at September 14, 2013 06:05 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 14, 2013 06:05 PM (0axsw)
Posted by: le soothsayier (the french version) at September 14, 2013 06:05 PM (soKpm)
Tell us about it. Our "flavoring" is corn syrup.
Posted by: Mr. Coke & Mr. Pepsi at September 14, 2013 06:07 PM (xY8+2)
The worst thing about that car was constantly having to fool it into believing Sarah Connor could be found where you wanted to go.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 14, 2013 06:07 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 06:07 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 06:08 PM (9MLX+)
John Kerry = Grecks (from Fallout New Vegas).
http://scoamf.us/kerry
http://scoamf.us/grecks
The resemblance is uncanny, I tells ya.
Posted by: ʃnaʊzərSoße at September 14, 2013 06:08 PM (SM8RA)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 06:08 PM (/9IC1)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 06:10 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 14, 2013 06:10 PM (JNUY4)
Not trying to be a snob. I'd just prefer to get something that outlasts the payments.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:12 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 14, 2013 06:13 PM (PgKjD)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:13 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 14, 2013 06:14 PM (tyEJh)
Am surprised a bunch of investors don't make GM an "offer they can't refuse" for it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:14 PM (xY8+2)
I absolutely disagree on FWD traction issues. I grew up driving RWD from 1972, and was a "mechanic" in high school. I got my first FWD car in 1981. A company Buick. I went EVERYWHERE in the snow I could not in my RWD.
I don't disagree on traction issues. I makes sense to have the weight over the drive axle. I'm with you there. My problem is with steering issues on slick surfaces. Turning under power. I can drive both fwd and rwd in slick conditions. It's just a different experience.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 06:14 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:16 PM (xY8+2)
Does the federal government count as an investor? Because they sure acted like mobsters when it came to GM.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 14, 2013 06:17 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:18 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:19 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 10:13 PM (xY8+2)
You should probably do a little research before you buy a car. Jeep is Mopar not GM.
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 06:19 PM (AXkR7)
Saturn was a dead brand walking for years before the GM bailout. I still drive a 2000 SW2. It was discontinued not long after and pretty soon everything at Saturn was just a rebadged GM instead of being unique to Saturn.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 14, 2013 06:19 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 06:20 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Malcolm Pollack at September 14, 2013 06:21 PM (cYBXj)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at September 14, 2013 06:22 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 06:23 PM (MhA4j)
Which is still in worse shape, by the way? GM or Chrysler?
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:23 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Ronster at September 14, 2013 06:23 PM (AXkR7)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 06:25 PM (MhA4j)
In the meantime, alls I knows is, reviewers are saying "Gravity" is the most incredible sci-fi film since "2001."
But then, that's been said about so many mediocre future-world flicks...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:26 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:27 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:28 PM (xY8+2)
Russell was ahead of my sister a year at Thousand Oaks High School. He was widely considered a raging jackass. It seems he did a lot of attitude adjustment in the years when he wasn't getting much acting work.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 14, 2013 06:28 PM (kcfmt)
When you orbit that close to a black hole, bad shit gonna happen.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 06:29 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:29 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Epobirs at September 14, 2013 06:29 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 06:31 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 14, 2013 06:33 PM (NELfC)
Chrysler is now owned by Fiat
Fiat only wanted Chrysler for the Jeep division
As far as reliability issues go, you have to flip the pages a while on the consumer guides before you get to Chryslers, Jeeps, and Fiats
Posted by: kbdabear at September 14, 2013 06:34 PM (/9IC1)
It was like OS/2 at IBM. Internal enemies did far more to kill it than anyone outside IBM.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 14, 2013 06:35 PM (kcfmt)
Posted by: panzernashorn at September 14, 2013 06:36 PM (MhA4j)
I have a (liberal) friend on FB who enjoys cars a lot, and even has a 'Vette (thankfully, he's not a nut about stopping drilling or the XL Pipeline). As he once said, "Italian cars are wonderful. They just don't run."
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:36 PM (xY8+2)
Watching Saturn go away was like watching a beautiful, brilliant and promising college student slowly succumb to some stupid progressive disease. Just plain sad.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:39 PM (xY8+2)
Launching a new car brand requires a massive investment. NEarly all of the existing American brands at the time Saturn was started had once been separate companies that were bought out. Most of the foreign makes had a long history, too. One of the only truly new car brands to become well established in my adult life is Hyundai, which came out of a company then best known for big construction projects in Asia.
Saturn wasn't expected to turn a profit for at least a decade. It was an investment in the future but the future always has its enemies. The brand had been castrated well before any hope of maturation.
Posted by: Epobirs at September 14, 2013 06:41 PM (kcfmt)
A friend's aunt had a LeCar in the '80's. If that wasn't that crappiest car ever, it's certainly in the top 10.
I'll bet some of the people barbequing cars in France aren't just p.o.ed Muslims, but Renault owners who tried to start their cars and found out the stupid thing wouldn't start for the 9th time in 2 weeks.
"You piece of merde, Pierre says 'you die now!'"
Posted by: Donna V. at September 14, 2013 06:42 PM (R3gO3)
OMG. I thought the thing was some kind of plexiglass nightmare the first time I saw one. I remember that it turned out I wasn't the only one who felt that way. Supposedly when GM first unveiled it, the auto journalists sitting in the audience literally gasped.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 14, 2013 06:48 PM (xY8+2)
Posted by: Donna V. at September 14, 2013 06:56 PM (R3gO3)
(O)(O)
After that one new large VW plant was built in postwar Wolfsburg, it accounted for HALF of Germany's total freaking industrial output within 10 years. Half.
What the fuck kind of business model was Saturn using? Did they steal it from the Elbonians or sumthin?
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 14, 2013 07:01 PM (9MLX+)
Posted by: Rob in Katy at September 14, 2013 07:29 PM (PiTBB)
Posted by: mtwzzyzx at September 14, 2013 11:38 PM (onTvA)
As a former academic, I agree with all that you say. But the business world is no better. There is no pure life. So finish, and beat them at their own game!
Posted by: PJ at September 15, 2013 08:55 AM (ZWaLo)
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