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August 24, 2013

The Founding Fathers Were 'Extremists' [OregonMuse]
— Open Blogger

A Department of Defense teaching guide meant to fight extremism advises students that rather than Â“dressing in sheetsÂ” modern-day radicals Â“will talk of individual liberties, statesÂ’ rights, and how to make the world a better place,Â” and describes 18th-century American patriots seeking freedom from the British as belonging to Â“extremist ideologies.Â”

You'll love this:

The guide also repeatedly tells readers to use the Southern Poverty Law Center as a resource in identifying hate groups. The SPLC has previously come under fire for its leftist bias and tendency to identify conservative organizations such as the American Family Association as hate groups.

Yeah, that's a real reliable source.

Here is the link to the Judicial Watch post containing the training materials obtained from DoD.

Update: link fixed. Sorry

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1 Frist

Posted by: Chelsea blaster at August 24, 2013 05:44 PM (NAU+F)

2 Wow. First?

Posted by: shredded chi at August 24, 2013 05:44 PM (eP+gx)

3 After they canned that guy who had the class teaching the Islamic underpinnings of Islamic terrorists,what do you expect?

Posted by: Chelsea blaster at August 24, 2013 05:45 PM (NAU+F)

4 It's SATURDAY NIGHT! Do you know where YOUR congresscritters are hiding?

Posted by: mindful webworker, secret citizen at August 24, 2013 05:45 PM (U13jb)

5 Where did the first comment go to?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 24, 2013 05:45 PM (SfGRU)

6 They were extreme. When a people take up arms against a government, it's extreme. And thanks for the fresh post!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at August 24, 2013 05:46 PM (4Mv1T)

7 Who talks about this? The motherfucking Long Marchers I was a paranoid kook for 20 years for even mentioning. Welcome to the party, pal!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 24, 2013 05:46 PM (qyfb5)

8 Wow.

I did not see that coming.

No really...

Posted by: Kreplach at August 24, 2013 05:46 PM (hmUex)

9 My question is, what's changed? They've always felt this way. Now they're talking about it, writing about it, openly. What changed to make them feel they could do this?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 24, 2013 05:46 PM (GEICT)

10 Remember Spencer Ackerman brags that he made the FBI stop scrutinizing Muslims. He was on the case with LTC Dooley, too. It is Journolists world, we just live in it.

Posted by: Chelsea blaster at August 24, 2013 05:48 PM (NAU+F)

11 Oh well. Again, i can't quite muster the energy to be outraged anymore. This is our federal government, after all. Same shit different day. When i read a post here tellng me that a gov't agency is doing something to protect my inherent rights, or saving my tax dollars, or scaling back the size of the sleaze in D.C., then I'll be shocked. Until then, make me another bourbon and coke, and let it burn.

Posted by: shredded chi at August 24, 2013 05:49 PM (eP+gx)

12 The first link "Who comes up with this stuff" is bad.

Posted by: RightWingProf at August 24, 2013 05:50 PM (E/o+q)

13 4 It's SATURDAY NIGHT! Do you know where YOUR congresscritters are hiding?

brb, coppin' a feel...

Posted by: former Mayor Filner at August 24, 2013 05:50 PM (Myqtp)

14 You know that the federal gummint is the enemy, don't you? Started in the 80s, with the leftist students from the 60s getting into the faculties of the universities. The leftist march continued into the public schools after the universities had been overrun. Then into all the branches of the federal gummint. Total cultural takeover. Straight out of the playbook of the Marxists. It is so embedded it cannot be routed.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 24, 2013 05:52 PM (PH+2B)

15 It won't be right til we burn it all down, hang a few thousand, and start over. Sorry if this distresses you, but that's the way it is.

Posted by: Dick (@DicksTrash) at August 24, 2013 05:52 PM (GrtrJ)

16 I feel like reading some extremist literature. I think I'll go read the Constitution.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 24, 2013 05:53 PM (cHZB7)

17 Omg this Medieval Park movie is horrible. Do not subject your children to this.

Posted by: Chelsea blaster at August 24, 2013 05:53 PM (NAU+F)

18 The scary part is so many young people are profoundly ignorant of our founding, and of political philosophies in competition with socialism. If your only source of information was public schooll text books, you could be forgiven for believing that health insurance is a constitutional right.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at August 24, 2013 05:53 PM (ymovd)

19 It's SATURDAY NIGHT! Do you know where YOUR congresscritters are hiding?

Who cares; if we're lucky they won't show up for work next week and we can get new ones.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 24, 2013 05:54 PM (4+PCd)

20 " 14Â The first link "Who comes up with this stuff" is bad. " I read this here a few days ago. There may be a good link in an early morning thread from thursday or friday?

Posted by: shredded chi at August 24, 2013 05:56 PM (eP+gx)

21 The Founding Father's were extremists. The notion of free men governing themselves and a government that was restricted in its powers was revolutionary stuff at the time. Just because they were extremists doesn't make them wrong.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 24, 2013 05:57 PM (lr3d7)

22 Belief in individual liberty is now extremist. It's like a bad dream, except it's real.

Posted by: tsj017 at August 24, 2013 05:57 PM (tIcJF)

23 ...describes 18th-century American patriots seeking freedom from the British as belonging to "extremist ideologies." --- YOU BETCHA! Yet, somehow, it seems, that's being said as if it were a bad thing.

Posted by: mindful webworker, extremist idealogue at August 24, 2013 05:57 PM (U13jb)

24 Oh for fuck's sake.

Posted by: Y-not at August 24, 2013 05:57 PM (5H6zj)

25 I don't think that "burning it down" and "hanging a few thousand" is going to make a dent into what we have become. What's much more likely is that you will be denounced by your neighbors, children or people that you work with, that you thought were your friends. It has come to me as a revelation this week just how isolated I might be in my views with most of my co-workers. People want a nanny state that wipes your nose and slaps your ass when you get out of line. We are a lost people.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at August 24, 2013 05:58 PM (v6hyJ)

26 Oregon Muse,

nice find....the fuckers are trying to subvert the founding to bypass the limits on the feds.

Posted by: chelsea10077 at August 24, 2013 05:58 PM (A4hKL)

27 Eric Holder is a fucking shitheaded race pimp. And not a very nice person.

Posted by: Freak Out! at August 24, 2013 05:59 PM (hrWMa)

28 It's SATURDAY NIGHT! Do you know where YOUR congresscritters are hiding?Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 24, 2013 09:54 PM (4+PCd)
Hopefully, they have been deemed nonessential personnel.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 24, 2013 05:59 PM (JJbyX)

29 Sometimes I feel like just giving up. I won't vote republican and I can't vote democrat. I'm so done with politics right now I'll go watch ted cruz on YouTube. I'll feel better.

Posted by: Fugazi at August 24, 2013 06:00 PM (vJfdZ)

"5 Where did the first comment go to?"

It's right here in my taco, sweetie!

Posted by: Zombie Helen Thomas' wheel-barrow toted labia at August 24, 2013 06:01 PM (DHQv9)

31 If George Washington, Ben Franklin, John Hancock, Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry were alive today, the SPLC would identify them as members of a hate group. Don't underestimate how Soveitized we have become.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at August 24, 2013 06:01 PM (v6hyJ)

32 Ballots don't work. Onto bullets.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 24, 2013 06:01 PM (Y92Nd)

33 My friends, first thing Monday morning I promise to reach across the aisle to work with our friends across the aisle on plans to invade Syria.

Posted by: John McCain at August 24, 2013 06:01 PM (yuZy4)

34 27 CJ Burch,

they killed the enlightenment in 1933.....

just died slower than they wanted.

Posted by: chelsea10077 at August 24, 2013 06:01 PM (A4hKL)

This hurt me before. The destruction of our country and morals, you know the brotherhood thing. But now, I'm really, really rooting it on. Laughing at the idiotic left wing. They will collapse under their actions.

There is hope though. I ran into a group of high school kids on the golf course during one of their matches. You couldn't find a more nicer and respectful bunch of people. They will [and we] win, the thugs will lose.

Posted by: Bob Filner at August 24, 2013 06:02 PM (vx61Q)

36 Dolly Madison made anthrax-tainted cupcakes and gave them to the Tories..

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 24, 2013 06:02 PM (2pc1N)

37 I trust Judicial Watch and not these kooks! Our government is being run by nuts!

Posted by: CarolT at August 24, 2013 06:02 PM (z4WKX)

38 In the meantime, let's shut down the government.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 24, 2013 06:02 PM (Y92Nd)

39 The Federalist Papers: Subversive Literature, Forbidden.

The Communist Manifesto: Educational, Required Reading.

Posted by: Your block Captain's recommendations, Comrade at August 24, 2013 06:02 PM (dCXxs)

40 People want a nanny state that wipes your nose and slaps your ass when you get out of line. Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at August 24, 2013 09:58 PM (v6hyJ) Some suicide bombers use votes instead of bombs.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 24, 2013 06:03 PM (qyfb5)

41 Just because they were extremists doesn't make them wrong.

And...just because we're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get us.

Posted by: NC Ref at August 24, 2013 06:03 PM (Myqtp)

42 Donald Rumsfeld would not put up with this shit! It had to one of his successors.

Posted by: CarolT at August 24, 2013 06:03 PM (z4WKX)

43 We traded places with the old Soviet Union. In reality, they won the cold war, they just didn't last long enough to enjoy it

Posted by: Chelsea Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 24, 2013 06:04 PM (2BHYC)

33 If George Washington, Ben Franklin, John Hancock, Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry were alive today, the SPLC would identify them as members of a hate group.

As did the British.

Three-days rations, powder, and shot.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at August 24, 2013 06:04 PM (DHQv9)

The Declaration of Independence does contain language concerning the right to alter or abolish a government that becomes abusive....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 24, 2013 06:04 PM (z+Xap)

46 45 Chelsea Purp,

We lost in 74 when we didn't kill The Weather Underground.

Posted by: chelsea10077 at August 24, 2013 06:05 PM (A4hKL)

47 modern-day radicals Â“will talk of individual liberties, statesÂ’ rights, and how to make the world a better place,Â” Because talking about "how to make the world a better place" is so fucking radical OMG! *rolling eyes* These people are unbelievable. And by unbelievable I mean utterly predictable. And dangerous. Let's not forget dangerous. But the gubmint buying up all those millions of rounds of ammo last year? Totes normal, you guys.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 24, 2013 06:05 PM (CA2NO)

48 [37] sorry, wrong sock.

Posted by: redenzo at August 24, 2013 06:05 PM (vx61Q)

49 If you're paranoid, then you're a threat to the state. If you're not paranoid, then you're a freaking imbecile.

Posted by: Chelsea Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 24, 2013 06:05 PM (2BHYC)

50 It depends on what the definition of extremism ism.

Posted by: Craig Poe at August 24, 2013 06:06 PM (BVkEs)

51 Donald Rumsfeld would not put up with this shit! It had to one of his successors. Posted by: CarolT The rot in the Army was already well along when Rumsfeld become SecDef. Why do you think he brought back Pete Schumacher (among other reasons) to be Army Chief of Staff? I have a friend who was in the Army and knew Eric Shinseki when they were somewhat more junior officers. He said he was really a great guy then. But as a senior officer, and Army Chief of Staff, he really sucked.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense ...... at August 24, 2013 06:06 PM (v6hyJ)

52 Being both pro radical Islam and pro gay is quite a trick.

Posted by: Chelsea blaster at August 24, 2013 06:07 PM (NAU+F)

53 Because talking about "how to make the world a better place" is so fucking radical OMG!

That's because the official agenda is to make the world a much worse place. A "paradise", as Pol Pot might have described it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 24, 2013 06:07 PM (2pc1N)

54 But the gubmint buying up all those millions of rounds of ammo last year? Totes normal, you guys. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 24, 2013 10:05 PM (CA2NO) Now, now, that's crazy talk. We've been told so over and over again. Btw, hi. And I'm watching Doomsday Castle. FFS. Idiots.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 24, 2013 06:07 PM (GEICT)

55 49 MWR,

DHS' purchasing agent being a race warrior is totes normal you guys!

Posted by: chelsea10077 at August 24, 2013 06:07 PM (A4hKL)

56 If you ain't deep throating Obama, then you're an extremist.

Posted by: Chelsea Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 24, 2013 06:07 PM (2BHYC)

57 Those "Minuteman" terrorists used to hide behind trees and snipe at the British troops instead of standing in lines out in the open.

Posted by: Lucky Pierre at August 24, 2013 06:07 PM (5fSr7)

58 I'm starting to think it's easier to count who doesn't want me shot.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at August 24, 2013 06:08 PM (Gk3SS)

59 Being both pro radical Islam and pro gay is quite a trick.

***

Only if there were the slightest logical thought involved.

Posted by: cool arrow at August 24, 2013 06:08 PM (WMsq+)

60 ...modern-day radicals "will talk of ... how to make the world a better place..." --- The HORROR! http://bit.ly/omg1111

Posted by: mindful webworker, extremist idealogue at August 24, 2013 06:08 PM (U13jb)

61 60 I'm starting to think it's easier to count who doesn't want me shot. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at August 24, 2013 10:08 PM (Gk3SS) *raises hand* Oh, btw, in a blatantly naked attempt at hit whoring...New Post. And AtC, you'll enjoy laughing AT me.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 24, 2013 06:09 PM (GEICT)

62 I'm starting to think it's easier to count who doesn't want me shot. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at August 24, 2013 10:08 PM (Gk3SS) Oh, I can do that. One. Two. Three. Four. Five. Six. Umm.... seven. Eight. Ummm... Er... Damit.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 24, 2013 06:09 PM (qyfb5)

63 Wait, aren't the totalitarian statists (aka the Democrat party) all about making the world a better place?

Posted by: cool arrow at August 24, 2013 06:09 PM (WMsq+)

64 Being both pro radical Islam and pro gay is quite a trick.

its easy, because SHUTUP!

Posted by: Chelsea Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 24, 2013 06:09 PM (2BHYC)

65 So chick in this horrible movie pulls a sword on a bad guy. My 7 year old daughter says "just thrust him." Cannot explain to her why I am laughing.

Posted by: Chelsea blaster at August 24, 2013 06:09 PM (NAU+F)

66 TFG wants Islamists to take over the Middle East and heÂ’s helped them by putting Erdogan in charge of trying to retain Syria. Look how that has turned out. I think TFG is an undercover terrorist, waiting for the right time to strike us. He might not bomb us but heÂ’s done everything he can to ruin our national pride in The United States.

Posted by: CarolT at August 24, 2013 06:10 PM (z4WKX)

67 One wonders to what extent this source, the "greatest threat of terrorism is Veterans" report and the similar stuff from Napolitano and the rest of the DHS and DOD creepy administrators is *actual* paranoid delusion vs. counter-revolutionary far-left fantasy vs. trolling. Mind you, those are not mutually exclusive.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 24, 2013 06:11 PM (qyfb5)

68 Wait, aren't the totalitarian statists (aka the Democrat party) all about making the world a better place? Posted by: cool arrow at August 24, 2013 10:09 PM (WMsq+) Well, no.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 24, 2013 06:12 PM (qyfb5)

69 If the SPLC wouldn't label me a raciss hatemonger who hates and is also raciss...then I think I'd be doing something wrong.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 24, 2013 06:12 PM (QMWjL)

70 Serious you guys Spencer Ackerman is to blame for the Boston Marathon bombing and this horse shit.

Posted by: Chelsea blaster at August 24, 2013 06:12 PM (NAU+F)

71 Well, no.

***

You're right. Don't the totalitarian statists CLAIM they want to make the world a better place?

Posted by: cool arrow at August 24, 2013 06:13 PM (WMsq+)

72 Ashton Kutcher Speech - Teen Choice Awards (HQ) http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2013/08/video-ashton-kutcher-acceptance-speech.html

Posted by: Steve at August 24, 2013 06:13 PM (xZPp3)

73 Another sign of the Cultural Reign of Terror. The kinds of folks who put this out know they have winds at their backs, so they are trying to put the Yellow Star on everything as fast as they can--hoping by merely saying it, it can become the common perception. Freeze the target, personalize it, polarize it. The biggest question is will there be a sufficient counterreaction from the normally non-involved. I simply don't know.

Posted by: T. at August 24, 2013 06:13 PM (AG5wR)

74 65 Wait, aren't the totalitarian statists (aka the Democrat party) all about making the world a better place? Posted by: cool arrow at August 24, 2013 10:09 PM (WMsq+) A better place for them.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 24, 2013 06:13 PM (QMWjL)

75 Wonder why the Muslims think they will win?

Posted by: ejo at August 24, 2013 06:13 PM (C/Spx)

76 I'm tired of being tolerant and civil. Why should I put up with this crap?

Posted by: Freak Out! at August 24, 2013 06:13 PM (hrWMa)

77 You're right. Don't the totalitarian statists CLAIM they want to make the world a better place? Posted by: cool arrow at August 24, 2013 10:13 PM (WMsq+) Well, yes. But they also claim they have happy people, glowing economic outlooks, universal appeal, and *no* mass graves whatsoever ever in their entire history that they have re-written just now.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 24, 2013 06:14 PM (qyfb5)

78 I'm tired of being tolerant and civil. Why should I put up with this crap? Posted by: Freak Out!
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They know that you are tolerant and civil, and thus will not push back..., or at least your representatives will not push back.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 24, 2013 06:15 PM (aDwsi)

79 And, it being MoDees so they just can't leave it alone, the curriculum takes several broad swipes at the confederacy. This in a course for military officers, who represent families of the old south at about double the natural distribution.

No matter what one's theoretical stand of the origins of the late unpleasantness, in dealing with officers as a class -- to include minority members -- there is no future in kicking around the confederacy. Somebody's gotten too cute by half here, just a little too eager for glory, overfull of his own line of...country.

Honest to God, if you were agitating for the south to rise again, you'd start like this. What new friends do they suppose they can gain with that line of argument?

Posted by: comatus at August 24, 2013 06:15 PM (JNUY4)

80 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 24, 2013 10:14 PM (qyfb5) History is especially useful when you have no compunction about inventing it to support your delusions when needed. Probably fun, too.

Posted by: model_1066 at August 24, 2013 06:16 PM (QMWjL)

81 guess what just became available online?? the Star Trek Into Dorkness dvd rip brb..

Posted by: soothsayer at Logan Airport at August 24, 2013 06:16 PM (O66FG)

82 The biggest question is will there be a sufficient counterreaction from the normally non-involved. I simply don't know. Posted by: T. at August 24, 2013 10:13 PM (AG5wR) That's why some people talk so much about getting education and entertainment (and journolism) out of their hands. Marginally aware people care about what The Accepted Talking heads say and nothing else, and dunderheads only care what's "cool." If paying your own way was the only way to get laid, youth personal debt would vanish in about two weeks. Okay, yeah, that's *slightly* exaggerated and will never happen, but you get the idea.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 24, 2013 06:17 PM (qyfb5)

83 That's what I mean. I don't want to be civil anymore.I want to start slitting throats.

Posted by: Freak Out! at August 24, 2013 06:17 PM (hrWMa)

Posted by: Steve at August 24, 2013 10:13 PM (xZPp3)

Fuck off spammer.

Posted by: buzzion at August 24, 2013 06:17 PM (LI48c)

The DOD training manual states extremists are

http://www.scribd.com/doc/162321199/2161-docs#page=35

a. Character assassination

Extremists often attack the character of an opponent rather than deal with the facts or issues raised. They will question motives, qualifications, past associations, alleged values, personality, looks, and mental health as a diversion from the issues under consideration.

b. Name calling and labeling

Extremists are quick to resort to taunts (e.g., pervert, racist, and crackpot) to label and condemn opponents and to divert others from listening to their arguments.

c. Irresponsive sweeping generalizations

Extremists tend to make sweeping claims or judgments with little to no evidence, often confusing similarity with sameness. That is, they assume that because two or more things are alike in some respects that they are alike in all respects.

d. Inadequate proof behind assertions

Extremists tend to be very fuzzy about what constitutes proof for their assertions and tend to get caught up in logical fallacies where they assume that a prior event explains.

Gee sounds like just about every liberal talking head on TV along with Obama and Hillary.

Posted by: retired military at August 24, 2013 06:18 PM (kO8U/)

86 I know I read this about this on here last night....
This link works.

http://jwatch.us/pm
Oh and ONT up

Posted by: I'm a Lumberjack and that's OK at August 24, 2013 06:18 PM (MnSla)

87 my son's fish is dead. Flush him before the son gets home or make the pup do it himself? Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 24, 2013 10:18 PM (OWjjx) How old is the kiddo?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 24, 2013 06:18 PM (GEICT)

88 It depends on what the definition of extremism ism.
Posted by: Craig Poe
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I am stealing that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 24, 2013 06:18 PM (aDwsi)

89 I'm tired of being tolerant and civil. Why should I put up with this crap? ---- Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security

Posted by: mindful webworker, extremist idealogue at August 24, 2013 06:18 PM (U13jb)

90 "Donald Rumsfeld would not put up with this shit!"

Let's take a second and remind ourselves here that Rumsfeld reported to a President who:

(a) Declared repeatedly that "Islam is a religion of peace",

(b) Welcomed CAIR and other Islamic-terror front groups into the White House,

(c) Declared Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to be trusted allies in the "War On Terror".

So, no, boneheaded political correctness is in no way the exclusive province of the left. There are *plenty* of people on the right who have fallen into the same trap.

The difference in my view is that guys like George W. Bush honestly believe this crap about Islam being a "religion of peace", because they are bone stupid. Whereas the likes of Barack Obama don't believe that for a second, but will absolutely still parrot the line about Islam's peaceful intent, because Islam wars consistently upon the Western civilizations which the likes of Obama despise.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 24, 2013 06:19 PM (gqT4g)

91 Oh, btw, in a blatantly naked attempt at hit whoring...New Post.Â And AtC, you'll enjoy laughing AT me.Posted by:Â BCochran1981 - Credible HulkÂ at August 24, 2013 10:09 PM (GEICT) *wheezes on floor* So it's possible I caved and got a smartphone today. Look. It was a purple S3 and free and what am I made of stone? I'm kind of afraid of it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at August 24, 2013 06:19 PM (Gk3SS)

92 Don't the totalitarian statists CLAIM they want to make the world a better place?

For them. High ranking Soviet officials rolled phat.

Posted by: Chelsea Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 24, 2013 06:20 PM (2BHYC)

93 Btw, hi. And I'm watching Doomsday Castle. FFS. Idiots. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 24, 2013 10:07 PM (GEICT) Hi back! Doomsday Castle? SyFy movie?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 24, 2013 06:20 PM (CA2NO)

94 Hi back! Doomsday Castle? SyFy movie? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea at August 24, 2013 10:20 PM (CA2NO) Reality show. http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/doomsday-castle/

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 24, 2013 06:22 PM (GEICT)

95 Flush him before the son gets home or make the pup do it himself?

When I was a little kid, I built a little wood coffin for a goldfish and buried it out in one of the hay fields in back of the barn. Little kids do shit like that.

Today, I'd just give it the wild ride.

Posted by: Chelsea Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 24, 2013 06:23 PM (2BHYC)

96 The biggest question is will there be a sufficient counterreaction from the normally non-involved. I simply don't know.

Posted by: T. at August 24, 2013 10:13 PM (AG5wR)

_________________

No. We will all go calmly into the gas chambers. I haven't seen any kind of concrete reaction to all of this regimes abuses. I wonder what they would have to do before someone does something.....

Posted by: Chelsea Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 24, 2013 06:26 PM (jucos)

97 AlexTheChick 10:08,

I don't want you shot ma'am...

I just want liberty....

Posted by: Chelsea10077 at August 24, 2013 06:27 PM (A4hKL)

98 So it's possible I caved and got a smartphone today. Look. It was a purple S3 and free and what am I made of stone? I'm kind of afraid of it. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at August 24, 2013 10:19 PM (Gk3SS) http://youtu.be/O5hEZBTZpLM

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at August 24, 2013 06:27 PM (qyfb5)

99 *reads descrip of "Doomsday Castle"* But the apocalypse he fears might shy in comparison to the clash of characters of his five children as they try to live and work together to prepare for the worst. If doomsday comes, will this family survive to rule the mountains, or will it self-destruct before the castle is ever completed? Um, if your family can't stand to be around each other, I don't think they'll survive doomsday.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 24, 2013 06:28 PM (CA2NO)

100 Posted by: torque wrench at August 24, 2013 10:19 PM (gqT4g) What else could GWB say except that Islam is a religion of peace, Torquewrench? He couldnÂ’t go out and say we know that 90% of them are violent killers and wonÂ’t be happy until they have their Caliphate. I may have misspelled that word but donÂ’t care.

Posted by: CarolT at August 24, 2013 06:29 PM (z4WKX)

101 I'll tell you what.would make the world a better place. Bring back guillotines.

Posted by: Freak Out! at August 24, 2013 06:29 PM (hrWMa)

102 105 FreakOut,

or making it a matter of law that vehicles have the legal right of way...

here in South Carolina it seems some folk think they are car proof and they test that theory...a lot

Posted by: Chelsea10077 at August 24, 2013 06:30 PM (A4hKL)

103 The word "muslim" turns up three times in 133 pages. Two of the references were in relation to Sudan, where they are described as the perpetrators and victims of violence. The other reference is in a hypothetical where a male supervisor who makes disparaging remarks about women is described as muslim.

OTOH, "Confederate" turns up 10 times.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 24, 2013 06:30 PM (2pc1N)

104 Seriously though. Can we figure otu a way to get people to STOP treating the SPLC as anything other than a hate group itself? What credibility it might have once had was shredded DECADES ago.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 24, 2013 06:31 PM (CA2NO)

105 What did I miss about the word or name Chelsea here? I look in here when IÂ’m at lunch sometimes but the other day when I looked it had a post about Sydney Leathers and I didnÂ’t care about her.

Posted by: CarolT at August 24, 2013 06:31 PM (z4WKX)

106 107 Cicero,

Look everyone knows Confederates really launched 9/11 Cicero..

Uncle Jan Neopolitino explained it all back in 2009

Posted by: Chelsea10077 at August 24, 2013 06:32 PM (A4hKL)

107 109 CarolT,

We're all "honoring" Bradley, Briana, Chelsea Manning....hero of the left...

and Ed Gein

Posted by: Chelsea10077 at August 24, 2013 06:33 PM (A4hKL)

108 We're living, literally, in a NewSpeak world.

Posted by: Chelsea Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 24, 2013 06:33 PM (2BHYC)

109 108 MWR,

MWR sadly there are a lot of otherwise sensible right leaning people who treat the SPLC as some sort of vanguard against the return of Bull Connor....

Troy Riser comes to mind....

Posted by: Chelsea10077 at August 24, 2013 06:34 PM (A4hKL)

110 Off with their empty heads!

Posted by: Freak Out! at August 24, 2013 06:35 PM (hrWMa)

111 112 Chelsea Purp,

Run Red...let the fuckers call peanut butter puimpkin pie...

be among people living in the real world.

Posted by: Chelsea10077 at August 24, 2013 06:35 PM (A4hKL)

112 Look everyone knows Confederates really launched 9/11 Cicero..

That's why 9/11 is known colloquially in the South as "Pickett's Revenge."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 24, 2013 06:35 PM (2pc1N)

113 This is OT, but now Detroit is apparently being stalked by a big cat (read: like a bobcat type big cat) in addition to the stray, feral dogs. http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/08/24/big-cat-has-detroit-residents-on-alert/ I think I've seen this movie. Next come the ROUS's, right?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 24, 2013 06:36 PM (CA2NO)

114 You may now all call me Chelsea the Cat..... I've never felt so free....

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 24, 2013 06:36 PM (WVeRY)

115 116 Cicero,

Operation I did indeed take that fucking treeline sir!

Asshole leftists my GGGgrandfather fought for the fucking union.

Barry Choom's was a Muslim slave trader in all likelihood.

Posted by: Chelsea10077 at August 24, 2013 06:36 PM (A4hKL)

116 He couldnÂ’t go out and say we know that 90% of them are violent killers and wonÂ’t be happy until they have their Caliphate. I may have misspelled that word but donÂ’t care.

Posted by: CarolT at August 24, 2013 10:29 PM (z4WKX)

No. But maybe he could've kept his mouth shut and not said such utter baloney that everyone (including his mom) knows isn't true or even close to being true.

But then the Bushes are NE Republicans, that is to say Democrats without the minimum wage whining and being supported by Unions. They're supported by business. (not mom and pop business as they're the enemy of big business also.)

Who do you think is behind the drive to flood the country with low wage malleable workers who won't complain about slave wages and slave conditions?

I'm surprised they don't realize this won't work out like they think it will.

Think Cesar Chavez. And then of course their their voter base. Which no matter how they try to find substitutes, is mostly middle class white people. Small business owners, farmers, low rent entrepreneurs just eking out a living providing some mundane service to their neighbors. They are not happy about low wage illiterate hispanics flooding the job market and increasing the competition.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 24, 2013 06:37 PM (28TG+)

117 MWR: Woof!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 24, 2013 06:37 PM (WVeRY)

118 The ONT is up btw folks

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 24, 2013 06:37 PM (GEICT)

119 Sh!t I forgot to clean up the word wrap from the paste.

*sigh*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 24, 2013 06:38 PM (28TG+)

120 You may now all call me Chelsea the Cat..... I've never felt so free.... Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 24, 2013 10:36 PM (WVeRY) Isn't it wonderful? Who knew that something as simple as changing one's name could have such a powerful effect?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Chelsea [/s][/i][/b][/u] at August 24, 2013 06:38 PM (CA2NO)

121 122 BC1981,

Yeah but I am humor challenged this month evidently...and frankly this topic is better for the bitterness in my heart.

I need to crash anyhow.

Posted by: Chelsea10077 at August 24, 2013 06:38 PM (A4hKL)

122 @117 MWR, no silly, roos are in Oz.

This isn't the first time for big cats to show up in Detroit (or Chicago). The estimates on how far bachelor western panthers have to range keeps going up. Detroit has had about one credible big-cat sighting a year for several years.

Meanwhile, the Apple-latchin' bobcat has resurged all the way to the Mich/Ohio border counties, so it's cats all the way down. Much smaller, not nearly as dangerous, but still upsetting to good order and small pets. Frankly I'm suspicious, which makes me...extremist.

Posted by: comatus at August 24, 2013 06:49 PM (JNUY4)

123 Thanks all. I should have known that Ace would have had a new thread about Manning wanting to change his name to Chelsea. I knew he did, I missed the sarc here.

Posted by: CarolT at August 24, 2013 06:58 PM (z4WKX)

124 Two rallies in Washington, D.C. in September offer us opportunities to send our rulers and enemies a message.

On September 10, a coalition of groups will hold an "Exempt America" rally on the Capitol lawn demanding Congress defund ObamaCare:

http://www.exemptamerica.com/

On September 11, "2 Million Bikers to D.C." will hold a counter rally concurrently with the "Million Muslim March:"

http://tinyurl.com/ltm6xwq

It's time to do more than just "talk of individual liberties, statesÂ’ rights, and how to make the world a better place.Â”

Posted by: Salt Lick at August 25, 2013 12:40 AM (mm7ZX)

125

Posted by: Vic at August 25, 2013 01:33 AM (lZvxr)

126 When the fuck did I start living in a mid-1990's, paranoiac, Right Wing, anti-government thriller? "And the Army started calling normal people terrorists, and added Republicans and Conservatives to the list of known enemies of America." Jesus fucking Christ. That's the plot of Schwarzenegger's "The Running Man", not the real world. Right? Right?

Posted by: cormac_mcroadie at August 25, 2013 04:58 AM (4HsUp)

127 Would teh Founding Fathers have been considerd progressives by their peers?

Posted by: smith at August 25, 2013 05:24 AM (0BAcK)

128 We need to put this question to every politician: either you support the Constitutional framework of our founding, or you are a traitor. Which are you?

Posted by: NYC Parent at August 25, 2013 08:58 AM (QuxlN)

129 The reference to the Southern Poverty Law Center and their bias reminded me that SPLC is preparing a bias curriculum for the Common Core State Standards that gets to come in invisibly through the language arts curriculum.

Nothing like having the biased explaining bias to impressionable minds in a way intended to enrage the feelings. There's a reference to the curriculum on the One World Education website.

And that guide treats the Department of Defense as just another social and political institution to march through while changing perceptions and values.

Posted by: Robin at August 25, 2013 09:46 AM (fBnFM)

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