October 16, 2013

The Kentucky Kickback
— Ace

"It's my nature," said the scorpion.

Apparently the debt ceiling hike can have extraneous matters attached to it, so long as they involve spending, rather than cutting.

The language was inserted by Senators Lamar Alexander (R., Tenn.) and Dianne Fienstein (D., Calif.)...

And requested by Barack Obama, Mr. Give Me a Clean CR.


More: Not McConnell, some sources claim.

Who then? Well, the article says it was requested by Obama, but then suggests it might have been requested by someone else.

Go read the name. It will be very familiar to you. Very familiar.

Appropriators appropriate even with it's completely inappropriate, don't they?

Update: The Post has now rewritten its article to delete the tweet noting that Hal Rogers is the head of the Appropriations Committee.

Now, are they retracting that story? Is it false? Or are they merely unsure?

You can't tell because, as usual, the media refuses to confess its errors. I made an error; I relied on the Post. Will the Washington Post tell me whether or not their original suggestion was in error?

Of course not; they'll just stealth-edit and pretend they never said it.


More: This is sort of the whole reason I quit the Republican Party.

What do they actually offer me? I cannot support them and feel idealistic about it; they are either corrupt, compromised, or opposed to my ideals.

During the Bush years I could at least enjoy winning elections, even if the party wasn't quite what I hoped it would be.

Now we just lose elections, and then Hal F'n' Rogers or whoever attaches some rancid pork that we've been told is a bill that the Fate of the Republic hangs upon the clean passage thereof.

What's the point?

We are too corrupt to lose with heroic dignity and too implacably idealistic to win with compromise.

It's a sucker's game. I choose to no longer play. True, I will no longer have any chance of my political aspirations prevailing in the public square.

But that was going to happen anyway. Now at least I am disburdened of the painful weight of futile hope.

I'm out.

I honestly don't understand this party.

I can only explain it this way: When the Washington Post called its base "poor, uneducated, and easily led," the party believed it.

Personally I'm only one of those things.


Posted by: Ace at 03:48 PM | Comments (399)
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1 &*)&^^&*^#&W%)$W%)+

Posted by: pep at October 16, 2013 03:48 PM (6TB1Z)

2 Shocked.

Posted by: NCKate at October 16, 2013 03:49 PM (CV9aS)

3 And there is actually conversation about why we hate the establishment republicans? I'll be more specific, ALL OF THEM.

Posted by: furious at October 16, 2013 03:51 PM (A98Xu)

4 McConnell.  And this is our principled so-called conservative leadership.


I am so done with the Republicans.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2013 03:51 PM (8ZskC)

5 The ship is sinking.  Grab a handful of silverware on the way to the boats!

Posted by: Capt. Edward Smith at October 16, 2013 03:52 PM (8ZskC)

6 New national motto: Got mine.

Posted by: teh Wind at October 16, 2013 03:52 PM (b+5vQ)

7 It's almost like we're being stabbed in the back.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 16, 2013 03:52 PM (qyfb5)

8 Those reelection palms aren't gonna grease themselves.

Posted by: NCKate at October 16, 2013 03:52 PM (CV9aS)

9 Stabbed in the front.

Posted by: NCKate at October 16, 2013 03:53 PM (CV9aS)

10 ( unable to comment due to ongoing egregious stupidity )

Posted by: Otto, who thinks Plato was Belgian at October 16, 2013 03:53 PM (omBWL)

11

Question:

How many republicans in the house have to vote for this 'deal' to guarantee it's passage, and is there any reasonable chance that it will fail?

I suspect the first part of that question is moot, because the answer to the second part is a simple 'No'.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 16, 2013 03:54 PM (sCynV)

12 see the update. Claims it's not McConnell -- it's someone else.

Posted by: ace at October 16, 2013 03:54 PM (/IWYB)

13 SHUT THE MF'er DOWN.

Posted by: furious at October 16, 2013 03:54 PM (A98Xu)

14 Whomever did it, it's the fucking point.

Posted by: prescient11 at October 16, 2013 03:54 PM (q7N67)

15 I have no faith in government.

Posted by: BacktoGA at October 16, 2013 03:54 PM (4DSQv)

16 "Kentucky Kickback" is too obvious. Should be called "Puffy-Face Payola"

Posted by: wooga at October 16, 2013 03:55 PM (Fi00V)

17 NOW DO YOU SEE WHY WE DON'T BELIEVE THEM! Yet another stab in the back. Yet another reason to ignore the party when they say we are being unreasonable and unrealistic.

"I didn't come here to fight so they can own more lands; then
I have to work for them."

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at October 16, 2013 03:55 PM (0q2P7)

18 Hal Rogers.  Serving since 1981.  And that's the fucking problem, generally speaking.

Posted by: prescient11 at October 16, 2013 03:55 PM (q7N67)

19 They are all crooks. Each and every one of them. Either they knew about this, should have known about this, and should have objected and voted the whole bill down. Fuckin crooks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2013 03:56 PM (UbDLm)

20 hush,  'we got ours' what's that you wanted out of?

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 03:56 PM (nqBYe)

21 Didn't you read the article? They had to appropriate $3B to make sure that $160M wasn't wasted on canceled contracts. So it turns out that this was actually a pretty crafty effort to reduce government waste. McConnell got one by those fucking democrats!!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 16, 2013 03:56 PM (+lsX1)

22 None of it matters, too many people are committed to suicide. Unfortunately it's suicide-murder, but, you know, *details*.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 16, 2013 03:56 PM (qyfb5)

23 Hal has been in since I was a little kid.

Posted by: NCKate at October 16, 2013 03:56 PM (CV9aS)

24 Will chin implants be covered for our Betters? 

*stares at desk*  *contemplates smashing head into it*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 03:56 PM (lVPtV)

25 Like that flannel shirt.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 16, 2013 03:56 PM (v1Ckr)

26

Well, at least Widow Lautenberg also gets a few hundred thousand dollars to help bring up the little ones who lost their daddy.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2013 03:56 PM (kdS6q)

27 see the update. Claims it's not McConnell -- it's someone else. Posted by: ace at October 16, 2013 07:54 PM (/IWYB) Who gives a rat's ass. What another, well I did not read what was in it before I passed it?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2013 03:56 PM (UbDLm)

28 Hal Rogers is a massive impediment to political progress. I do not know how to primary him. The trouble is that people like him, always able to bring home the bacon, are going to be almost primary-proof.

Posted by: ace at October 16, 2013 03:56 PM (/IWYB)

29 Ah ha so now we know the fix was in from the start. And the price $3 billion is the price for Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) and I am sure once this turd is flushed we will see lots of other Repub whores price for laying down. This has completely kicked me into the let it burn column, it will takes decades for the collapse to happen (after all the American economy is huge) but it will happen.

Posted by: Oldcrow at October 16, 2013 03:57 PM (CSgkL)

30 Didn't you read the article? They had to appropriate $3B to make sure that $160M wasn't wasted on canceled contracts.


For the want of a kingdom, a horse would have been lost.

Posted by: Bizarro World Shakespeare at October 16, 2013 03:57 PM (8ZskC)

31 This is the price of bipartisan collusion.


It would be very interesting to do the money trail here and see how many McConnell family, campaign donors, and friends share in the unexpected redistribution!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 16, 2013 03:57 PM (XdnQT)

32 well as long as there are no real consequences to their actions .
status quo reigns supreme.

sometimes i think they are all up there shoving their pockets full of what is left  of the pie

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 03:57 PM (nqBYe)

33 WaPost says Obama put this in. On purpose to screw over McConnell?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 03:57 PM (ZPrif)

34 How about 3 billion for vet hospitals/treatment/state of the art research? FU republicans.

Posted by: furious at October 16, 2013 03:57 PM (A98Xu)

35 This is what happens when TeaTards demand purity.  You get worse than nothing when you refuse to compromise.

But look at the bright side, the TeaTards will get to tell their constituents in the trailer parks that they stood on the side of Ted Cruz.

Posted by: Jeepers at October 16, 2013 03:58 PM (XDRsa)

36 I CANNOT WAIT to fill out my Republican Platform Survey I received today.  First, I'm not a registered Anything.  Second, sending those douchebags a message will be sweet.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 03:58 PM (lVPtV)

37 Must pass bills are the best bills to put earmarks on.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 03:58 PM (ZPrif)

38 It wasn't McConnell. The person that did it looked exactly like an old lady turtle, but this guy had a funny nose, mustache and black rimmed glasses so it couldn't have been him.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 16, 2013 03:58 PM (+lsX1)

39 Kane is referring, of course, the KentuckyÂ’s own Rep. Hal Rogers (R-Ky.).

Does it matter which member of "The Establishment" is at the trough? We're allegedly in debt for the amount in any case.

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2013 03:58 PM (hO9ad)

40 Hey, WTF?

Posted by: Some Hungry Cowboy Poets at October 16, 2013 03:58 PM (8ZskC)

41
Didn't you read the article? They had to appropriate $3B to make sure that $160M wasn't wasted on canceled contracts.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head





See: Sunk Costs, Fallacy



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2013 03:59 PM (kdS6q)

42 Either the GOP leadership goes, or we need a viable third party stat. Yeah, neither is happening and it's probably too late to prevent the doom anyway. Fuckitol.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 16, 2013 03:59 PM (hpYnL)

43 Tea Tards.


Zzzzzzzzziiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnng!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2013 03:59 PM (8ZskC)

44 I propose an Open Thread, the subject of which is "Name The Coming New Political Party ('cause all the ones we have now are corrupt, incompetent, broken, or simply hopeless)"

Posted by: filbert at October 16, 2013 03:59 PM (FUbuZ)

45 Hey Senate over here, yeah you stupid, I could use a cool 2 billion.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2013 03:59 PM (UbDLm)

46 Hal Rogers is a god in central Kentucky. Very republican area. Very conservative. No major cities in his district, I don't believe. God's country.

Posted by: NCKate at October 16, 2013 03:59 PM (CV9aS)

47 So, from the start they wanted to trash Cruz to get this bullshit? And what happens in January, do we have to go through this nonsense again? And Peter King, go screw yourself.

Posted by: furious at October 16, 2013 03:59 PM (A98Xu)

48 Ah so it was a twosome in the Bordello, the other whore was Rep. Hal Rogers (R-Ky.) of course.

Posted by: Oldcrow at October 16, 2013 03:59 PM (CSgkL)

49 A certain amount of corruption will always be there. A bridge here. A highway there.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 04:00 PM (ZPrif)

50 Clean Bill? Gee my definition of clean must be different from what they use in DC

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2013 04:00 PM (UbDLm)

51 nevergiveup, well sure but you have to share your piece of the pie.  by the time you're done maybe you'll have a cool 160K?

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 04:01 PM (nqBYe)

52 Methos, another "dead inside" thread.

Posted by: furious at October 16, 2013 04:01 PM (A98Xu)

53 And what happens in January, do we have to go through this nonsense again?

Well, of course we do. Second verse, same as the first.

Posted by: antisocialist at October 16, 2013 04:01 PM (eGr8Z)

54 Clean Bill? Gee my definition of clean must be different from what they use in DC

I've got a DC definition for you.

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at October 16, 2013 04:01 PM (FUbuZ)

55 Also in the bill is a payout to widow Lautenberg for $176,000. She needs it, she is only worth $116 million.

Posted by: RWC at October 16, 2013 04:01 PM (LpbKr)

56 BOHICA.

This message sponsored KY.

Posted by: Mush McConnell (R-KY!!!) at October 16, 2013 04:01 PM (7EoL1)

57 clen cr's? hahahahahha

so what else is in this make moar   debt a thon

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 04:01 PM (nqBYe)

58 Screw 'em all.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 16, 2013 04:01 PM (kNqmp)

59 Our fate is in the hand of God - and the people. The solution will not be found at the ballot box. The only question is whether the people still wish to regain their status as free men.

Posted by: whoever at October 16, 2013 04:02 PM (UJe/j)

60 I want to criticize McConnell anyway, but let's face it-it's not likely he bothered reading this POS.

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2013 04:02 PM (hO9ad)

61 Expensive?  Yeah, but that's gonna be one helluva dam.

Posted by: Some Beavers at October 16, 2013 04:02 PM (8ZskC)

62 If this is a 'clean' bill, Obama is white and conservative.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 16, 2013 04:02 PM (l0lja)

63 If the GOP by some freak chance takes back the Senate in '14 and the Presidency in '16, they are gonna have to actually abandon the principle of fair play. Eviscerate the Proggressives, Cultural Marxists, and other lefty groups. At this point it is either us or them.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 16, 2013 04:02 PM (XvHmy)

64 Clean Bill? Gee my definition of clean must be different from what they use in DC

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2013 08:00 PM (UbDLm)


Geez, I should certainly hope so! A back alley whore has a much cleaner definition of "clean" than what they use in DC...

Posted by: antisocialist at October 16, 2013 04:02 PM (eGr8Z)

65 nevergiveup, well sure but you have to share your piece of the pie. by the time you're done maybe you'll have a cool 160K? Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 08:01 PM (nqBYe) Where do I sign up?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2013 04:02 PM (UbDLm)

66 Husband and I just brought two drunk Marines home from our club.

I could let them express themselves here but I won't.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 04:02 PM (lVPtV)

67 yeah....the McCain gang are JUST the people who will right out of control spending.....

"anyone find my missing war?"

//J McCain

Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 04:03 PM (9jfyN)

68 Well I am not reposting my rant from the last thread so I'll sum it up simply by saying, "Fuck everything.  Especially that thing there."

Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at October 16, 2013 04:03 PM (GrtrJ)

69 There's GAMBLING in Ricks Place!??!

Shocked!!

Shocked I say!!

Posted by: Capt Renault at October 16, 2013 04:03 PM (E7Iyp)

70
And I used to get pissed at people who said those DC politicians are all the same. 

These people enrich themselves, their families and their friends and we get nothing but fucked up health care.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2013 04:03 PM (N8z9m)

71 no wonder the taxes in both states we have homes have gone up 1,400 a year in the last year.

all that rub my back i'll rub your going on while reducing the rest of us to bankruptcy.

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 04:03 PM (nqBYe)

72 Where's the Fuck Everything kitteh?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 04:03 PM (lVPtV)

73 Pffft.  $160 million is couch cushion money.  And next week, it will only be worth $140 million.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2013 04:04 PM (8ZskC)

74 And Mz. Lautenburg gets  $170 k from the taxpayers.  Because it's Senate tradition.  Wht don't the fing Senate pass the hat and give their own money.  That would be tradition. F me.

Posted by: Ronster at October 16, 2013 04:04 PM (ATHJ6)

75
The ship is sinking. Grab a handful of silverware on the way to the boats!

Off Topic Aside:  Major Richard Winters absconded with Hitler's silverware. It's part of a long time display at the Hershey-Derry Township historical society, (along with other personal artifacts from his time with Easy Company). I drive through Hershey every time I come down to DC, and one of these times, I'm going to stop, and check out that display.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 16, 2013 04:04 PM (sCynV)

76 "Fuck everything. Especially that thing there."

Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at October 16, 2013 08:03 PM (GrtrJ)


and don't miss that One other thing!

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 04:04 PM (nqBYe)

77 I don't think that project is even in Rogers' district.

Posted by: NCKate at October 16, 2013 04:04 PM (CV9aS)

78 I'll never forgive Ted Cruz for this.

Posted by: Rep Petyr "Littlefinger" King at October 16, 2013 04:04 PM (dvRYt)

79 Fuck all the things.

Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at October 16, 2013 04:05 PM (GrtrJ)

80 Husband and I just brought two drunk Marines home from our club.

I could let them express themselves here but I won't.



Please, they can be Special Guest Commenters.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2013 04:05 PM (8ZskC)

81 This poat needs moar TrueCon kitteh.

Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at October 16, 2013 04:05 PM (GrtrJ)

82 A certain amount of corruption will always be there. A bridge here. A highway there.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 08:00 PM (ZPrif)


Oh, well that makes it okay, then. It's not like it's real money or anything.


Thank you for continuing to provide the voice of reason.


[furious-yup]

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2013 04:06 PM (hO9ad)

83 I just spent an evening with many members of the Greatest Generation (who got my kid and his buddy drunk).  No fans of TFG.  Not At All.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 04:06 PM (lVPtV)

84
Make no mistake, this was a wink wink nod nod to McConnell.  He took the bribe.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2013 04:06 PM (N8z9m)

85 Off Topic Aside: Major Richard Winters absconded with Hitler's silverware.


I poked around in the ruins of the Berghof a few years ago.  Didn't find anything worth stealing.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2013 04:06 PM (8ZskC)

86 I was already pretty punch-someone-for-no-good-reason today. Where's BCochran when I need him?

Posted by: Gingy at October 16, 2013 04:06 PM (jt8G9)

87 from Breitbart, via Drudge:

"The plan includes a proposal offered by McConnell in the 2011 debt ceiling crisis that allows Congress to disapprove of the debt ceiling increase, which means lawmakers will formally vote on whether to reject a debt ceiling increase until Feb. 7. Obama can veto that legislation if it passes. If Congress fails as expected to gather a two-thirds majority to override the veto, the debt ceiling would be raised."

More proof that you can stick your head up your butt.

Posted by: mallfly at October 16, 2013 04:06 PM (bJm7W)

88 @44 I'm kind of partial to Tear Tard Party myself, in the spirit of the  way f****t and n****r are used by persons to whom those words used to be an epithet against.

Posted by: sum(random) at October 16, 2013 04:06 PM (UCyxd)

89 McCain is getting something.

Posted by: noone, really at October 16, 2013 04:07 PM (5ikDv)

90 >>>"Fuck everything. Especially that thing there."

Ruh-roh!

Posted by: The Chicken at October 16, 2013 04:07 PM (7EoL1)

91

It's a sucker's game. I choose to no longer play. True, I will no longer have any chance of my political aspirations prevailing in the public square.

But that was going to happen anyway. Now at least I am disburdened of the painful weight of futile hope.

I'm out.

Posted by Ace at 07:48 PM
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Did ace just drop the mic and leave the stage?

Posted by: JarvisW at October 16, 2013 04:07 PM (E7Iyp)

92 Well I am not reposting my rant from the last thread so I'll sum it up simply by saying, "Fuck everything. Especially that thing there." Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at October 16, 2013 08:03 PM (GrtrJ) I saw it, you got it. Ultimately when someone tells you to fuck off too many times, you fuck off. Then they get all mad that you left.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 16, 2013 04:07 PM (qyfb5)

93 Hal Rogers? Damn Tea Party strikes again.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 16, 2013 04:07 PM (9jLim)

94 The 'Good Doctor' Ron Paul certainly should be outraged at this...It eliminates $3 billion in earmarks that might have gone to Texas.

Posted by: socalcon at October 16, 2013 04:08 PM (vHlQ5)

95 Who is Hal Rogers?

Posted by: logprof at October 16, 2013 04:08 PM (4BA+Y)

96 The GOP has the best Senators that money can buy.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 04:08 PM (uhAkr)

97 Thank you ace.  XOXOXOXOXO

Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at October 16, 2013 04:09 PM (GrtrJ)

98 McCain is getting something. Posted by: noone, really at October 16, 2013 08:07 PM (5ikDv) Maybe, but he will not remember what by tomorrow

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2013 04:09 PM (UbDLm)

99 63 The Political Hat,

bwahaha John McCain would attack President X 24/7.....


you see the double bind the GOP is stuck in has PLENTY of GOP laces...

Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 04:09 PM (9jfyN)

100 Cleanup on #88

wtf does that even mean??

Posted by: JarvisW at October 16, 2013 04:09 PM (E7Iyp)

101 It's in Rep. Ed whitfield's district. Republican.

Posted by: NCKate at October 16, 2013 04:09 PM (CV9aS)

102 Futile hope sucks.  Embrace the despair.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2013 04:09 PM (8ZskC)

103 ♫ This

Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 04:10 PM (/jHWN)

104 It's a big infrastructure project, a # of districts in and around that project, in multiple states, will benefit.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 04:10 PM (ZPrif)

105 Yes, it sucks that there is no lever to pull at the ballot box to accomplish what we would like to accomplish.

That's no excuse for letting Democrats win. They suck worse than the worst Republican on his worst day.

Posted by: Splunge at October 16, 2013 04:10 PM (bKA83)

106

It looks like the Post has been editing the link.  The story doesn't mention Rogers anymore.

 

Posted by: junior at October 16, 2013 04:11 PM (UWFpX)

107
Hey, sweet!  Looks like Refugeecare is getting an unlimited increase:

SEC. 143. Amounts provided by section 101 for ‘‘Department of Health and Human Services—Administration for Children and Families—Refugee and Entrant Assistance’’ may be obligated up to a rate for operations necessary to maintain program operations at the level provided in fiscal year 2013, as necessary to accommodate increased demand.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2013 04:11 PM (kdS6q)

108 95 Hal is Green Lantern's alter ego

Posted by: Man from 1860 at October 16, 2013 04:11 PM (RLTt1)

109 Where is Mr. Straw and Hollowpoint to defend this shit?

Posted by: Ronster at October 16, 2013 04:11 PM (ATHJ6)

110 That's no excuse for letting Democrats win. They suck worse than the worst Republican on his worst day.


Yo.

Posted by: Sen. John McCain, Alleged (R) at October 16, 2013 04:11 PM (8ZskC)

111 We are too corrupt to lose with heroic dignity and too implacably idealistic to win with compromise. Posted by: Ace at 07:48 PM I hate to say this *now*, but you're still being tendentious about that. People have been compromising like a *motherfucker*, we just always end up in the same place because *THERE IS NO COMPROMISE WHEN YOU'RE FIGHTING FOR PERFECT UTOPIA!!!!" It's all half-steps to the left and no steps to the right with lots of pork and back-room deals thrown in to make everyone sick. PS if your position is *we* have a problem, it's *you* - you're being intractable - just like everybody else.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 16, 2013 04:12 PM (qyfb5)

112 This is what happens when TeaTards demand purity. You get worse than nothing when you refuse to compromise.

Right, the tea party made them take corrupt money.  They wouldn't have done it, but the tea party made em do it.  That's it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2013 04:12 PM (N8z9m)

113 He's the same kind of weasel, who lost us the House in 2006, so they elected him to chair the Appropriations committee, whole hog, but 'who's being naive'
you thought there would be graft, what do you think this whole Shutdown kabuki was about, and yes the Mr. Smith reference, is intentional.

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at October 16, 2013 04:12 PM (Jsiw/)

114 104 It's a big infrastructure project, a # of districts in and around that project, in multiple states, will benefit. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 08:10 PM (ZPrif) I think fucking shovel ready is the term you are looking for.

Posted by: RWC at October 16, 2013 04:12 PM (LpbKr)

115 Daddy said my lipo and Botox future looks bright. New "funding" or something.

Posted by: MegaTon McCain at October 16, 2013 04:13 PM (dvRYt)

116 Lindsay Graham got $25,000 for a new Ricky Martin statue in Myrtle Beach.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 16, 2013 04:13 PM (+lsX1)

117 Ol 'weak chin' did this.  His name is on the bill.

It's disgusting.  We can't win anything and must surrender, but somehow Mitch McConnell can get 3 billion of our money for some stupid project.

The GOP is a corrupt and evil piece of shit.  Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck: form a new party.


Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 04:13 PM (uhAkr)

118 We have to get Cruz, Lee or Paul to start something that limits all reps & senators to 12 Years in office. Bills must start in the House, I'm sure Louis Gomert would agree to it. This way, we wouldn't be stuck with half dead dinosaurs like McCain, Thurmond, Kennedy, etc.

Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 04:13 PM (z4WKX)

119 With the #shutdown delayed, the media will  move full-steam to the GOP serious fractures and the loser Tea Partiers and too , they'll have to report more on O-Care being less than successful. 

Paying attention to the political news cycles for the next few months will be tough on my liver.

Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 04:13 PM (/jHWN)

120 Odd timing that the McConnell kickback happens before the vote on the CR, and the politico story says that a vote against the debt ceiling can be vetoed by o.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 16, 2013 04:13 PM (26bsl)

121

c'mon.... you're not really surprised are you?

Admit it, you're not...

I've been done for a while.  Welcome to the party. 

Posted by: odd at October 16, 2013 04:13 PM (kduZC)

122 Right, the tea party made them take corrupt money. They wouldn't have done it, but the tea party made em do it. That's it.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2013 08:12 PM

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Ted Cruz is anything/everything that ails us

Posted by: JarvisW at October 16, 2013 04:13 PM (E7Iyp)

123 Ace is out? ACE IS OUT?

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 16, 2013 04:13 PM (9jLim)

124 Did ace just drop the mic and leave the stage?

Naw, that's just Ace's way of saying "let it burn."

Being Ace however, he used more words than we mere commenters, in that special Acean way we all know and love.

Posted by: filbert at October 16, 2013 04:14 PM (FUbuZ)

125 Yay!   TruCon cat!


This is sort of the whole reason I quit the Republican Party.

What do they actually offer me? I cannot support them and feel idealistic about it; they are either corrupt, compromised, or opposed to my ideals.



Hand to God, I was thinking almost exactly the same thing.   There might have been more fucks though.   


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at October 16, 2013 04:14 PM (Gk3SS)

126 Ace, great kitten video!

Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 04:14 PM (z4WKX)

127 Obama can veto that legislation if
it passes. If Congress fails as expected to gather a two-thirds majority
to override the veto, the debt ceiling would be raised."


I hope everyone understands why this is there. Even if by some miracle, the GOP wins every close seat in the house and every single senate seat next year, they still will have the excuse "We can't do anything because we don't have a two-thirds majority."

I'm voting D next year.

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2013 04:14 PM (hO9ad)

128 Principles are for chumps.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2013 04:14 PM (8ZskC)

129 @100 Just saying if democraps are going to call me names, I'll take their worst and wear it with pride.

Posted by: sum(random) at October 16, 2013 04:14 PM (UCyxd)

130 104 It's a big infrastructure project, a # of districts in and around that project, in multiple states, will benefit.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 08:10 PM (ZPrif)

I don't give a damn what you call it. A "gimme" is a "gimme".

Posted by: antisocialist at October 16, 2013 04:14 PM (eGr8Z)

131 Two Broncos cheerleaders are here @ Dark Horse signing sexy posters. I got one for me and one for Dad. Posters, not cheerleaders

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 16, 2013 04:15 PM (L4ZuH)

132 >>Where is Mr. Straw and Hollowpoint to defend this shit? Defend it? I told you weeks ago this is exactly what would happen if we followed this strategy. 1) We would get nothing we wanted. Check. 2) We would lose big time in the eyes of the public. Check. 3) The party would be even more fractured. Check. 4) Obamacare would not get touched. Check. Being surprised that politicians threw some pork into a bill is about as shocking that my dogs poop smells like dog poop.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2013 04:15 PM (g1DWB)

133 So, who is going to claim the GOP is not in bed with the Democrats?

They bought off our fucking majority leader!

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 04:15 PM (uhAkr)

134 Ace last spotted applying black eyeliner in front of the mirror at Hot Topic after buying all the Tool CDs.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 04:15 PM (X9Mnx)

135

Ace,

 

Just remember it took 4 primary elections before Reagan finally rose.

 

 

These are fights worth having.  It's about principles not elections.  Elections will follow, ALWAYS.

 

Because, for the most part, we are entirely correct and our principles are the best thing for the country and working Americans.

Posted by: prescient11 at October 16, 2013 04:15 PM (q7N67)

136 ...they are either corrupt, compromised, or opposed to my ideals. Well said Ace. And fuck this too. Kitteh

Posted by: Golfman in NC at October 16, 2013 04:15 PM (/djtm)

137 I'm tired of losing. I want to be on the winning team that's why I'm becoming a Democrat.

Posted by: sandbagger at October 16, 2013 04:16 PM (/WMdb)

138 I had something Cruzy going on the other week but I gargled some warm salt water and it was gone in two days.

Posted by: Man from 1860 at October 16, 2013 04:16 PM (RLTt1)

139 Cleanup on #88

wtf does that even mean??


Siri is trolling us

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2013 04:16 PM (hO9ad)

140 Defend it? I told you weeks ago this is exactly what would happen if we followed this strategy.

You guys are shameless.  You didn't predict McConnell was going to make a grab for money.

Hey, good luck with your party.  Make sure to contribute to the RNC and Mitch McConnell's re-election.  You'll have a conservative paradise anyday.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 04:16 PM (uhAkr)

141 Just like they renamed the Daniel Boone Parkway after Hal Rogers (spit), I suppose they will name this new structure the 'Mitch McConnell, Damn'

Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 16, 2013 04:16 PM (DHQv9)

142 I'm a lost-cause kinda guy, so I go with the Jacobite Party

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 16, 2013 04:17 PM (L4ZuH)

143 >>>None of it matters, too many people are committed to suicide. Unfortunately it's suicide-murder, but, you know, *details*.

Don't fret sweet prince. We're not dying, we're going to a better place,. Trust me. TRUST ME! BWAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at October 16, 2013 04:17 PM (0q2P7)

144 Right, the tea party made them take corrupt money. They wouldn't have done it, but the tea party made em do it. That's it. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2013 08:12 PM (N8z9m) When you're a Kulak, *everything* is your fault!

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 16, 2013 04:17 PM (qyfb5)

145 130 Oh.. It didn't flow right or something. For people who supposedly say those words all the time, I don't think I've actually ever seen it on this site, or really at all on any Righty Blog.

They say it us us FAR more, you're right about that

Posted by: JarvisW at October 16, 2013 04:18 PM (E7Iyp)

146 >>>I'm out.

Does that mean Ace is on vacation now?

Posted by: The Chicken at October 16, 2013 04:18 PM (7EoL1)

147
Cleanup on #88

wtf does that even mean??


Kind of interesting how the left is so comfortably familiar with those epithets, aint it?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 16, 2013 04:18 PM (sCynV)

148 It's our fault McConnell took a kickback, everyone!  Because we opposed Obamacare!

This was all predicted!

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 04:18 PM (uhAkr)

149 I grew up in Southeast Kentucky, and even as a kid I can remember my Dad complaining about government corruption at all levels. Today, Kentucky has more people on entitlement programs than hold jobs. I am SO glad my parents moved us to Texas in '81. As for the Congress: I flippin' hate them ALL.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 16, 2013 04:18 PM (5J54Q)

150 So while evil selfish Teapartier Ted Cruz stood and spoke on the floor of the Senate about the danger of funding and represented his constituency...

Heroic McCain  goes on Greta to trash Cruz for not playing nice , knowing all along that...

Certain GOP'rs were in the Senate padding a bill with dripping , pustulent pork offered on a scab crusted bone by Dear Leader?


Pretty close?

Posted by: noone, really at October 16, 2013 04:18 PM (5ikDv)

151 >>You guys are shameless. You didn't predict McConnell was going to make a grab for money. >>Hey, good luck with your party. Make sure to contribute to the RNC and Mitch McConnell's re-election. You'll have a conservative paradise anyday. And you guys still refuse to admit you were wrong even when it is glaringly obvious to all. I didn't predict Cruz was gonna read Dr. Suess on the Senate floor either but the big picture, yea. And it's not my party. I'm a registered independent.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2013 04:18 PM (g1DWB)

152 If their is a commercial need the infrastructure -- someone will finance it and build it.  If not, some whoreson, titular Republican will sell our grandchildren's sweat for it. 

Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2013 04:18 PM (CMlD4)

153 Fucking Myrtle the Turtle got fucked by Ogabe twice.

He is that stupid.

The $3 billion just got Mitchy's primaried ass stuck even further into the fire and his challenger Bevin has a lot of baggage

Get ready for Sen. Alison Lundergan (D) - KY

Posted by: Albie Damned at October 16, 2013 04:19 PM (Yhu4q)

154 *danger of funding Obamacare*





dammit

Posted by: noone, really at October 16, 2013 04:19 PM (5ikDv)

155 132 Two Broncos cheerleaders are here @ Dark Horse signing sexy posters. I got one for me and one for Dad. Posters, not cheerleaders Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 16, 2013 08:15 PM (L4ZuH) --You know the deal: Pics or it didn't happen. We'll settle for poster pics in lieu of cheerleader pics.

Posted by: logprof at October 16, 2013 04:20 PM (4BA+Y)

156 Don't get your blood pressure up over him, bevel. Not worth it.

Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at October 16, 2013 04:20 PM (IPz9m)

157 142 Just like they renamed the Daniel Boone Parkway after Hal Rogers (spit), They did WHAT? It's been almost 20 years since I've visited Kentucky. Doubt I'll ever go back now.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 16, 2013 04:20 PM (5J54Q)

158 Lamar Alexander must go.  If Joe Carr doesn't make an ass out of himself by early 2014, consider donating to him.  Then we have to figure out who takes out (the far-less beloved or deep-rooted) Bob Corker.  The same Bob Corker who squeaked by Harold Ford in 2006 and was basically unopposed in '12.  If there's even a respectable showing against Lamar, Corker could be toast someday.  It still amazes me how far out of step our statewide candidates continually are as compared to their voting bases...but SOON is coming, based on what's happening at the lower levels.


Just reading the winds and looking at how local elections are going statewide, unless something changes (and of course something always changes), TN is going from loveable pubbie to serious conservatarian-style politics at the statewide level over the next decade or so.  Moderation is not in fashion in red districts, which are all but a handful.  Maybe some of our newbs can step up and not beclown themselves long enough to make it to the big time, but at the same time the state machine is still very much lined up with the Rockefeller / slightly less-big government GOP mindset.  The same battle going on nationally is playing out here on a smaller scale.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 16, 2013 04:20 PM (un8zR)

159 Damned to nowhere.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at October 16, 2013 04:20 PM (DHQv9)

160 I think Ace meant heÂ’s out of the R party, as most of us should be. There are only a few that are worth calling republicans. The republicans took over from The Whigs, itÂ’s time for a Constitutional Wing of R Party. The RINOs can stay where they are, and the good ones can migrate to new party.

Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 04:20 PM (z4WKX)

161 Your move senator Cruz...

Posted by: Gabe Powerstroke 4x4 at October 16, 2013 04:20 PM (D7c3i)

162
2) We would lose big time in the eyes of the public. Check.

I don't think that's true.  Most polls had a pox on everyone there.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2013 04:21 PM (N8z9m)

163 Albie: it's part of the plan to ensure GOP primary candidates suck. Akin was a classic example.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 16, 2013 04:21 PM (L4ZuH)

164 Don't worry Ace, Gabe will be by shortly to explain it all to you.

It's for your own good, really.

Posted by: ThomasD at October 16, 2013 04:21 PM (FNTWi)

165
--You know the deal: Pics or it didn't happen. We'll settle for poster pics in lieu of cheerleader pics. Posted by: logprof at October 16, 2013 08:20 PM (4BA+Y)



The fuck we will.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at October 16, 2013 04:22 PM (Gk3SS)

166 161 yep.

And welcome to the GDI party folks!

Been here since about '92.

Its nice, put your feet up!

Posted by: JarvisW at October 16, 2013 04:22 PM (E7Iyp)

167 >>I don't think that's true. Most polls had a pox on everyone there. Republicans are now polling at a historically low level. Yea, everyone took a hit but Republicans most of all.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2013 04:22 PM (g1DWB)

168 Oh no,Obama is going to be on tv.

Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2013 04:22 PM (9XBK2)

169 And you guys still refuse to admit you were wrong even when it is glaringly obvious to all. I didn't predict Cruz was gonna read Dr. Suess on the Senate floor either but the big picture, yea.


Wrong about what?  That Obamacare sucks and deserves to be opposed?  That justifies a fucking kickback somehow?



And it's not my party. I'm a registered independent.


Well, keep on defending the party that isn't your own with the same zeal.  I'm sure the party you aren't a part of is going to do extremely well.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 04:22 PM (uhAkr)

170 7 It's almost like we're being stabbed in the back.

Yeah.

The low, low back.

A little lower, a little lower - yeah right there there.

Not with a knife so much either.

But it feels like stabbing, kinda, ya know?
Yeah, you know.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 16, 2013 04:22 PM (pgQxn)

171 Whelp. I'm ready to hand the keys back to the dems and ride the LIB train to hell.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at October 16, 2013 04:23 PM (0q2P7)

172 Steevy, you beat me. I had it off and am turning it back off. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 04:23 PM (z4WKX)

173

D. Feinstein involved??? look for the Pay back.... it WILL be there.. as there is no reason for a California Senator to be involved in this...

 

Hell.. she probably thinks the Mississippi River is only in Mississippi!

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 16, 2013 04:23 PM (lZBBB)

174 If not, some whoreson, titular Republican will sell our grandchildren's sweat for it.

Will there be a buffet?

Posted by: Meghan McCain, Titular Republican of Tomorrow at October 16, 2013 04:23 PM (8ZskC)

175 Those guys at WalMart when the EBT cards got shutdown?



Fuckin pikers.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at October 16, 2013 04:23 PM (5ikDv)

176 The good thing about TV, steevy, is that the channels can be changed. No Dear Leader for me, ever.

Posted by: Gingy at October 16, 2013 04:23 PM (jt8G9)

177 Politico has a running vote ticker for the NJ Senate Race

Posted by: mrp at October 16, 2013 04:23 PM (HjPtV)

178 Republicans are now polling at a historically low level. Yea, everyone took a hit but Republicans most of all.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2013 08:22 PM (g1DWB)


The hint why could possibly be found in the above post...

Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at October 16, 2013 04:23 PM (IPz9m)

179
Not a GOPer either, but this whole don't try because you might fail is for true losers.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2013 04:23 PM (N8z9m)

180 Thousands of mining jobs lost in Kentucky. Damn them!

Posted by: Mitch the Bitch at October 16, 2013 04:23 PM (DHQv9)

181 Fun fact: Frank Launtenberg's family has an estimated net worth of 60 million dollars.

I hope she chokes to death on the stolen from future generations 175k.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2013 04:24 PM (dwtaK)

182 Where is Mr. Straw and Hollowpoint to defend this shit? Defend what? The outcome I told you would happen? That our BEST CASE scenario was to get some small token gesture? You should be asking Sen Cruz what his plan was and where it went wrong. Oh, wait- he didn't have a fucking plan beyond getting some face time in preparation for the 2016 primaries. Once again, I humbly apologize for being proven right. And no, I'm not quite finished being an asshole about it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 04:24 PM (X9Mnx)

183 Well, keep on defending the party that isn't your own with the same zeal. I'm sure the party you aren't a part of is going to do extremely well.

***

What is this even supposed to mean?  I've read more coherent comments from Spurwing Plover.

Posted by: cool arrow at October 16, 2013 04:24 PM (WMsq+)

184 The fuck we will. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at October 16, 2013 08:22 PM (Gk3SS) --I'm just guessing the posters involve less clothing.

Posted by: logprof at October 16, 2013 04:24 PM (4BA+Y)

185 Thanks to Ace for really bringing it on a very difficult day!

(and 'rons and 'ronettes, too)

Posted by: cool breeze at October 16, 2013 04:24 PM (A+/8k)

186 You know this gets back to what I said to you earlier today ace. That it's not at the drop of the hat the establishment gets called cowards, it's taken years. You had a response and I replied to that about professionals telling the "naive" tea partyers that they need to just trust them on the process and they will get some of what they want and eventually more. Well this is what letting the "professionals" work their magic gets us. More pork and pay offs to "must pass!!!!!!" Legislation.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 16, 2013 04:24 PM (vciZs)

187 No, the OUTRAGE!! Eleventy, is the part that is humorous, Cruz has been fighting on practically every front, against gun control, for something of sensible policy on the Near East and North Africa, critiquing amnesty, and now holding the line against Obamacare. but you get three shivs in the back for that.

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at October 16, 2013 04:24 PM (Jsiw/)

188 "It wasn't McConnell" will be the best epitaph on the chinless fuck's headstone. ....and a good working title for the book on his senate "leadership"

Posted by: ontherocks at October 16, 2013 04:24 PM (WAtZR)

189 bth - If you're not calling it the Dork House I'll start to believe you're not actually in Boulder...

Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at October 16, 2013 04:25 PM (U0t2o)

190 117 Lindsay Graham got $25,000 for a new Ricky Martin statue in Myrtle Beach.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 16, 2013 08:13 PM (+lsX1)




That made me laugh.  I didn't want to, but I did.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 04:25 PM (lVPtV)

191 What is this even supposed to mean? I've read more coherent comments from Spurwing Plover.

Posted by: cool arrow at October 16, 2013 08:24 PM (WMsq+)


I take it you are an admirer of Mr. Straw.

Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at October 16, 2013 04:25 PM (IPz9m)

192 I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when Jeff B., Hollowpoint and Gabe all tried to draft Hal Rogers to their politifag Fantasy GOP team. There is no political home for fiscal conservativism in America anymore. Hasn't been for years.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 16, 2013 04:25 PM (JDIKC)

193 Is it time for the throat slitting yet?

Posted by: Freaked Out! at October 16, 2013 04:26 PM (Ve3ng)

194 I hope the SCOAMF pisses off House Republicans with his little speech. HeÂ’ll be small, I agree with Krauthammer on this one.

Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 04:26 PM (z4WKX)

195 WaPo reported Obama requested that bridge earmark. And, no doubt, it was Obama who leaked that 30 seconds after the bill passed. Exactly for this reaction. He's a good politician. Evil dude, but good politician.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 04:26 PM (ZPrif)

196 161 Carol. I am done with them. We are well & truly screwed by the whole bunch of them, dems & reps.

Posted by: lou's a girl at October 16, 2013 04:26 PM (vgd4f)

197 I take it you are an admirer of Mr. Straw.

***

Why, yes.

Yes, I am.

Posted by: cool arrow at October 16, 2013 04:26 PM (WMsq+)

198 Obama won with, what, 52% of the vote? Dividing the remaining 48% into two Parties is the Leftist dream come true.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2013 04:26 PM (ZshNr)

199 183 You should be asking Sen Cruz what his plan was and where it went wrong. Oh, wait- he didn't have a fucking plan beyond getting some face time in preparation for the 2016 primaries.

Damn, I wasted all that time making anti-Nazi speeches to an unreceptive, and sometimes nearly empty, House of Commons. Why stand up and fight for what's right if you don't have a good plan to win? I stand corrected.

Posted by: Winston Churchill at October 16, 2013 04:27 PM (bKA83)

200 @183

Cruz should have had a plan like McConnell ( R ) .


Congrats on being.."right".

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at October 16, 2013 04:27 PM (5ikDv)

201 >>Well, keep on defending the party that isn't your own with the same zeal. I'm sure the party you aren't a part of is going to do extremely well. Only in your mind am I defending the party. I'm saying the non-stop internecine warfare is not a smart strategy and does not advance the cause. Are the Republicans anymore opposed to Obamacare today than they were 3 weeks ago? No. Have they accomplished anything? No. Are they more united? No. Meanwhile Obamacare has been burning for the past 3 weeks and they could have spent the time much more effectively pointing that out instead of the news being filled with shutdown theater.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2013 04:27 PM (g1DWB)

202 Nice to get rid of that icky Checks and Balances put forth by some old white dudes. Spend away Dear Leader!!

Posted by: RWC at October 16, 2013 04:27 PM (LpbKr)

203 >>>Once again, I humbly apologize for being proven right.
And no, I'm not quite finished being an asshole about it.

HP HP HP. Such a silly goose. Always confusing the difference between being factually correct and being "right". You would be *right* if doing this was actually a bad idea which is what your thesis was. It turns out it was a great idea.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at October 16, 2013 04:27 PM (0q2P7)

204 Defend what? The outcome I told you would happen? That our BEST CASE scenario was to get some small token gesture?

Actually, your outcome was that the House GOP was going to be machine-gunned on the beaches of Normandy.

You guys suck at making predictions.  You ignore everything you get wrong and are ignoring the fact that the GOP Majority leader just took a kickback because we shouldn't have gone with the delay strategy which was so reasonable two weeks ago.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 04:27 PM (uhAkr)

205 Hee.  As I said earlier, I received a Republican Platform Survey in the mail today.  Which is interesting, because I'm not a registered Anything.

I'll take suggestions as to how to respond to the fucking thing.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 04:27 PM (lVPtV)

206 Hey, you know what will fix this?  A moderate stance on immigration.

Coming this Sunday to a news interview program near you.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 16, 2013 04:27 PM (kNqmp)

207 Why, yes.

Yes, I am.

Posted by: cool arrow at October 16, 2013 08:26 PM (WMsq+)


What a surprise.

Posted by: KG[/i][/b] at October 16, 2013 04:27 PM (IPz9m)

208 /sock off

Posted by: noone, really at October 16, 2013 04:27 PM (5ikDv)

209 Oh no,Obama is going to be on tv.

Hey at least the stock market isn't open.

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2013 04:27 PM (hO9ad)

210

Strip it for everything you can get, and let it burn.  And for heaven's sake, don't have any kids in this country.  Their destiny is slavery to the Leftist tyrants and the underclass scum.  Expat retirement - it's the only option.

Posted by: Reactionary at October 16, 2013 04:27 PM (jfeoD)

211 Call it Quixotic. Call it stupid. I dont care.

Cruz and Lee are the only two who stood up for the convictions and prniciples they campaigned on and didn't trash anyone personally. They both gave a big "fuck you" to the media.

They really did bring more attention to the big pile of shit that is OgabeCare

I thought we wanted politicians like this, right?

Posted by: Albie Damned at October 16, 2013 04:28 PM (Yhu4q)

212
Nah Jack too many gerrymandered districts.  There is the public and the voting public and those polls have people thinking their rep is great, but its the rest of the bastards.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2013 04:28 PM (N8z9m)

213 So, the FuckItAll cat is now the official mascot of AoShq? Makes sense...

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman, PhD Bitches! at October 16, 2013 04:28 PM (shXYq)

214 Barky on now, claiming victory

Posted by: Beefy at October 16, 2013 04:29 PM (bUmSq)

215 I'll take suggestions as to how to respond to the fucking thing.


Start with "fuck this" and work your way down to "And fuck that other thing."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2013 04:29 PM (8ZskC)

216 >> Expat retirement - it's the only option.

Posted by: Reactionary at October 16, 2013 08:27 PM (jfeoD)


A friend recently sold his business and moved to Belize. He and his family love it

Posted by: Albie Damned at October 16, 2013 04:29 PM (Yhu4q)

217 Pay attention to me! MEMEMEMEME!!!

Posted by: Barky at October 16, 2013 04:29 PM (onHU5)

218

Well, small price to pay for rescuing the USA.

 

Just imagine if the teaparty terrorists prevented our Leaders from spending more money they don't have. Good Lord, it would be the end of our whole scammer civilization.

Posted by: burmatar at October 16, 2013 04:29 PM (maI4C)

219 I think I'll just watch Ghost Hunters tonight.

And hope I see all these fucks on that show really soon.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 16, 2013 04:29 PM (pgQxn)

220 Barky, You never had my trust!

Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 04:29 PM (z4WKX)

221 There is no political home for fiscal conservativism in America anymore. Hasn't been for years.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 16, 2013 08:25 PM (JDIKC)

It's actually quite comfortable in republican primaries, but for some reason can't survive once it's moved to D.C.  Something about the climate, the soil pH, or THE HOLY SHIT LOOK AT ALL THE POWER I HAVE I'M NEVER LEAVING THIS PLACE! seems to kill it fairly quickly.  It seems that voters loving their porky goodies doesn't work too well as feed for it, either.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 16, 2013 04:30 PM (un8zR)

222 Miss us yet?

Posted by: The Whig Party at October 16, 2013 04:30 PM (Sm8jU)

223 215 Barky on now, claiming victory

Posted by: Beefy at October 16, 2013 08:29 PM (bUmSq)




Next up:  Illegal aliens, bitches!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 04:30 PM (lVPtV)

224 Does this mean no more flaming skulls?

Posted by: Justamom at October 16, 2013 04:30 PM (Sptt8)

225 211 Expat retirement - it's the only option.

Have you heard about our exit tax? Let me give you a nice brochure.

Posted by: IRS at October 16, 2013 04:30 PM (bKA83)

226 Only in your mind am I defending the party. I'm saying the non-stop internecine warfare is not a smart strategy and does not advance the cause.

Only in my mind?  You defended McConnell taking a kickback, saying, "Well of course he's going to do that!"

You know what's not a smart strategy and won't advance the cause?  Taking a kickback as part of a major cave-in deal.


Meanwhile Obamacare has been burning for the past 3 weeks and they could have spent the time much more effectively pointing that out instead of the news being filled with shutdown theater.



Only in your mind would that be true.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 04:30 PM (uhAkr)

227 What's amusing is the TruCons don't even know they've been swindled.  This was all about Ted Cruz making a name for himself.

TruCons are cheap dates, very easy to nail in the back seat.

Posted by: Jeepers at October 16, 2013 04:31 PM (XDRsa)

228 Forget it ace, it's Obamaville.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 16, 2013 04:31 PM (dvRYt)

229 What is after amnesty? Universal pre-school? Free college?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 04:31 PM (ZPrif)

230 AMNESTYYYYYYY!!!

Posted by: The Chicken at October 16, 2013 04:31 PM (7EoL1)

231 I'll take suggestions as to how to respond to the fucking thing.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 08:27 PM (lVPtV)



Fire.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at October 16, 2013 04:31 PM (Gk3SS)

232 "Meanwhile Obamacare has been burning for the past 3 weeks and they could have spent the time much more effectively pointing that out instead of the news being filled with shutdown theater." And this would succeed in doing what precisely?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 16, 2013 04:31 PM (ObHhj)

233 >>Nah Jack too many gerrymandered districts. There is the public and the voting public and those polls have people thinking their rep is great, but its the rest of the bastards. This wasn't about the House. I agree, the districts are gerrymandered to the point most could take a dump on live tv and get re-elected. It's about the Senate next year. State wide races with more than enough Dem seats in play for us to get control. Eyes on the prize.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2013 04:31 PM (g1DWB)

234 Funfact: The House has not seen the bill the Senate just passed.

So the house is going to be strong armed to vote for something hastily cobbled together that they will not have enough time to read and understand.


THIS REPUBLIC IS DEAD.


Sorry Ben but we just couldn't keep it.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2013 04:32 PM (dwtaK)

235 There may be, what, 6 republicans who are Constitutionalists? All the rest are democrats.

Posted by: EROWMER at October 16, 2013 04:32 PM (OONaw)

236 Ace updates the original post, saying "Honestly, I don't understand this party."

I think there are three or four elements in the elected Republican Party (and the associated power structure of the GOP):

The True Believers - A very, very small, very very circumspect minority within the power structure, who actually do believe in the small-government rhetoric.  Rand Paul/Ted Cruz.

The Mostly Harmless - Bumbling idiots who happen to get elected and/or get jobs because they fuck up less than the next guy.  Average joes.  Wouldn't be able to distinguish an ideology from American Idol.  Republican mainly by habit and/or family tradition.  John Boehner is probably in this group, although . .

The Corrupt - Self-explanatory.  Possibly the largest single group, except for . . .

The Stockholm Syndrome Victims - Most usually from the Mostly Harmless group but less often from the True Believers, they've been in and around major party politics and/or Washington for so long that they've quite honestly begun to identify the Federal Government as their constituency rather than the American People, much as the Democrat/Media Complex demands that they do.  Lost souls, possibly worthy of as much pity as scorn.

Posted by: filbert at October 16, 2013 04:32 PM (FUbuZ)

237 Repeal the 17th amendment!!

Then when they pull crap like this, we can get our representatives in the State they represent to kick them out and put someone better in!

Or THEY get the boot!!

Accountability!!

Posted by: JarvisW at October 16, 2013 04:32 PM (E7Iyp)

238 220 I think I'll just watch Ghost Hunters tonight. And hope I see all these fucks on that show really soon. Posted by: Clutch Cargo at October 16, 2013 08:29 PM (pgQxn) Well, their mark will last for generations to come in this existence. Crossing fingers their other plain has a barbed cock of not a terribly nice guy.

Posted by: RWC at October 16, 2013 04:32 PM (LpbKr)

239 "194 Is it time for the throat slitting yet?

Posted by: Freaked Out! at October 16, 2013 08:26 PM (Ve3ng)"



If you think you can get away with it. Don't just slit to slit to no purpose. That's just nihilism.

Posted by: Sudden Clarity Clarence at October 16, 2013 04:32 PM (M1eEa)

240 "I cannot support them and feel idealistic about it; they are either corrupt, compromised, or opposed to my ideals."

In case you haven't noticed, we're all three.

Posted by: Dead GOP Walking at October 16, 2013 04:32 PM (eHIJJ)

241 230 What is after amnesty? Universal pre-school? Free college?

Mandatory Chevy Volts for all.

Posted by: Splunge at October 16, 2013 04:32 PM (bKA83)

242 I am watching the AP site for NJ senate race news and saw this happy headline

"Obama to speak from the White House Wednesday night about Senate budget vote"

anticipated short version: "I won again."

Posted by: mallfly at October 16, 2013 04:32 PM (bJm7W)

243 Anyone see that softball interview some *unt did with Barky on ABC? 

"What is the coolest thing about being President?"

And the douchebag lights up and says, "The fact that anyone, anywhere will take my call."

And, "My girls think it's cool that I'm friends with Jay Z and Beyonce."

FUCKING KILL THIS COUNTRY NOW.

(Sorry for screaming, but not really.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 04:33 PM (lVPtV)

244 If I have a private meeting with the Kraut, will he start sucking my dick too?

Posted by: Invictus at October 16, 2013 04:33 PM (FBkKA)

245 162 Your move senator Cruz...

Posted by: Gabe Powerstroke 4x4 at October 16, 2013 08:20 PM (D7c3i)


This gabe idea to fight over the debt limit , how was that going to work?

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 16, 2013 04:33 PM (AWmfW)

246 How dare ted Cruz a politician have political ambitions! Poor little hollowpoint had to give up his "Ted Cruz is only doing this for fundraising" claim. But he still gets to gloat about how the cowardly republicans that didn't want to fight surrendered like we knew they would and he predicted it. God what a Nostradamus he is predicting that the republicans would fold easier than lawnchairs when they made that obvious from the beginning of this all

Posted by: Buzzion at October 16, 2013 04:33 PM (B1TwF)

247 Peter King got his Sandy money. Why can't I get my dam money?

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at October 16, 2013 04:34 PM (v1Ckr)

248 A friend recently sold his business and moved to Belize. He and his family love it

Posted by: Albie Damned at October 16, 2013 08:29 PM (Yhu4q)

****************

 

 

Belize is a great choice.  It's my plan B.  I bought my piece of the Caribbean a couple years ago.  I go at least once a year to visit, and it's amazing to be reminded of what it's like to live where do-gooder Leftist trash can't get all they want and govern every bit of your life.  I love the population's generally disobedient attitude toward the dictates of the state.  It may be 3rd world, but I'll happily exchange 1st world niceness and order for the joy of living like a human being. 

Posted by: Reactionary at October 16, 2013 04:34 PM (jfeoD)

249 And I bet you all wondered why, a couple of months ago, I made a push to start self-identifying ourselves as Whigs . . .

Posted by: filbert at October 16, 2013 04:34 PM (FUbuZ)

250 So what ace is saying, he fucked up his vacation for a big stinking pile of shit and is mad at everyone. Why is he surprised?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2013 04:34 PM (0FSuD)

251

133 Mr. Straw   Defend it? I told you weeks ago this is exactly what would happen if we followed this strategy.

 

And what would be the end result if we had followed your strategy?  What was your strategy?  Oh, I know, just STFU and STFD.  Everything will be fine.  I'm done.

Posted by: Ronster at October 16, 2013 04:34 PM (ATHJ6)

252 I'll take suggestions as to how to respond to the fucking thing. Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 08:27 PM (lVPtV) Jane, I got one via email. The one I had only wanted me to pick the most important issue out of several lists. I answered concentrate on getting rid of TFGCare and skipped page where they wanted donation.

Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 04:35 PM (z4WKX)

253

Whoa! Lonegan won Essex county Bookers home turf of Newark resides there... hmmmm

Posted by: Regular Guy at October 16, 2013 04:35 PM (N3Al8)

254

Hasta la pasta, it's Val-U-Rite: 30.

Posted by: Beefy at October 16, 2013 04:35 PM (bUmSq)

255 Where can I find the names of the 18 senators who voted against this? Anyone know?

Posted by: Mama winger on her iPad at October 16, 2013 04:36 PM (P6QsQ)

256 238 Repeal the 17th amendment!! No Repeal the 19th amendment !!

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2013 04:36 PM (0FSuD)

257 The USPS has a new plan at profitability.  All residents will receive a US Govt Chevy Volt delivered to them by the USPS for a $1/year charge on their tax form.  Because math is hard, but patronage and buying votes is teh awesome.  Thank you.

Posted by: US Postmaster General at October 16, 2013 04:36 PM (/jHWN)

258

Ace, not sure if this is a kickback.  Its an Army Corps of Engineer project first authorized in 1988.  Its supposed to speed up commercial river traffic...

I don't see how Mitch benefits unless he owns a cement company nearby.

 

 

http://tinyurl.com/3wt5phx

Posted by: Baracka Hussein Obama-Lenin at October 16, 2013 04:36 PM (unF5M)

259 The House should put forward their own bill without the Kentucky Kickback, pass it with 100% Republican support and ask McConnell how his shit sandwich tastes.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at October 16, 2013 04:36 PM (qZr+9)

260

" True, I will no longer have any chance of my political aspirations prevailing in the public square."

 

 

 

The gibbet stands there, no?

Posted by: Kaboom Kid at October 16, 2013 04:36 PM (DHQv9)

261 NJ Senate special election results that is

Posted by: Regular Guy at October 16, 2013 04:36 PM (N3Al8)

262 "It's about the Senate next year. State wide races with more than enough Dem seats in play for us to get control. Eyes on the prize."[/b What is it that you think this "prize" is going to accomplish? What's this "us" thing? I thought you were registered Independent?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 16, 2013 04:36 PM (ObHhj)

263 shit

Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 16, 2013 04:36 PM (ObHhj)

264 257 Yes!!

Women have suffered enough!!

Posted by: Jimmy Kemmel at October 16, 2013 04:37 PM (E7Iyp)

265 Damn that dam, if not for the kickbacks and assorted goodies being passed around on this project, Mitch McConnell would have stood firm in front of five hundred american flags at a press conference for the people...A republican to be trusted and admired, but NO! It was not to be, he was a politician first and had no choice but to line his pockets for the 'safety' of his 'children'...God bless America and continue to vote the republican ticket...

Posted by: Papa at October 16, 2013 04:37 PM (jECGF)

266
Jane, I got one via email. The one I had only wanted me to pick the most important issue out of several lists. I answered concentrate on getting rid of TFGCare and skipped page where they wanted donation.

Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 08:35 PM (z4WKX)




I don't even know why I'm even on their list.  I'm not a registered Republican (husband is, after being a lib for years).  The last time those douchebags called my house, I politely told them to go fuck themselves (I said "politely").

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 04:37 PM (lVPtV)

267 Why Mitchell, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world... but for Kentucky?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at October 16, 2013 04:38 PM (Ec6wH)

268 So Lonergan has a real chance? If even Newark went Repub, it would follow that the suburbs would, no?

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2013 04:38 PM (ZshNr)

269 Meanwhile Obamacare has been burning for the past 3 weeks and they
could have spent the time much more effectively pointing that out
instead of the news being filled with shutdown theater.


You mean like how they are now going to transition to replacing US voters 24/7?

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2013 04:38 PM (hO9ad)

270 Poor little hollowpoint had to give up his "Ted Cruz is only doing this for fundraising" claim That wasn't my claim. I maintained then as now that he's trying to make a name for himself for a (ill advised) 2016 run. The rest of the party be damned.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 16, 2013 04:38 PM (X9Mnx)

271 249 A friend recently sold his business and moved to Belize. He and his family love it Posted by: Albie Damned at October 16, 2013 08:29 PM (Yhu4q) ****************Belize is a great choice. Yeah, right. You'll love a country run like Harlem with open sewers and REALLY corrupt officials. Good Luck.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2013 04:38 PM (0FSuD)

272 I thought we wanted politicians like this, right? Posted by: Albie Damned at October 16, 2013 08:28 PM (Yhu4q) I want more pols like Lee & Cruz. The rest can walk into the ocean for all I care.

Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 04:38 PM (z4WKX)

273 174 D. Feinstein involved??? look for the Pay back.... it WILL be there.. as there is no reason for a California Senator to be involved in this...

DiFi is the Chairman of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Energy and Water Development. They took the 1988 Water Resources Development Act and changed the authorization amount.

http://uscode.house.gov/statutes/1988/1988-100-0676.pdf

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 04:38 PM (YjDyJ)

274

would it be poor form to remind you all that i'm a democrat?

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 16, 2013 04:38 PM (nooa6)

275

 

whoops Essex county just turned blue

Posted by: Regular Guy at October 16, 2013 04:39 PM (N3Al8)

276 I caught a bit of a political interview on the Michael Berry Show on the way home from work...I picked up in the middle, so it took me a minute to identify voices.  Ted Cruz was the guest, and he was subdued as compared to what you hear on the stump or during anti-404care interviews, but still upbeat.  Every response of his in the discussion was eventually steered back to some version of "the house republicans stood strong, and from the very start, the senate republicans were in vocal opposition".  He praised Boner for doing what he could while laying the blame on unnamed but implied senate republicans.  We all know who they are.  2014 senate primaries could be very interesting, as he was very clearly drawing battle lines without explicitly saying so.  Red state (R) senators who went wobbly or were outright in opposition to this whole thing from the start better start raising money early.  He's clearly a man who feels like he has the wind at his back.  Time will tell.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 16, 2013 04:39 PM (un8zR)

277 Remember that both Biden and Obama voted for the 'Bridge to Nowhere' while the Huntress canceled it, no surprise, where does one get the notion, that one would bother to vote for change, when you get stabbed in the back,
for your troubles.

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at October 16, 2013 04:39 PM (Jsiw/)

278 ace: "see the update. Claims it's not McConnell -- it's someone else."

There is no "Get Out of Corruption Free" card. He led the compromise. He knows of it. He voted for it. The End.

One set of Statists voting for another set of Statists' pork while plausibly denying voting for his own? Nope. Doesn't fly. And the TEA Party will say so. And they'll be the bad guys.

Burn It Down.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 16, 2013 04:39 PM (eHIJJ)

279 Sounded too good to be true.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2013 04:39 PM (ZshNr)

280 Well we fought the good fight. Mitch gets his pork the democrats get Obamacare and Americans get fucked over. *pats self on the back* Mission Accomplished.

Posted by: John (TheBitch) Boehner at October 16, 2013 04:40 PM (u8yJM)

281 Hal Rogers is a massive impediment to political progress. I do not know how to primary him. The trouble is that people like him, always able to bring home the bacon, are going to be almost primary-proof. -------- Might I then suggest the approach Levin's new book pines for? Constitutional Convention. Yes, it's a last ditch effort, and yes, it's likely to lose. But we might as well try pushing it because the only way to get rid of idiots like this is to put term limits in place.

Posted by: Rich at October 16, 2013 04:40 PM (EaFK8)

282 This law is worse than Bismarck's sausages.
I wouldn't skewer it with a manure fork.

Posted by: Thorvald, now with fewer sheep and more ice at October 16, 2013 04:40 PM (tfSla)

283 Yeah, right. You'll love a country run like Harlem with open sewers and REALLY corrupt officials.

Good Luck.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2013 08:38 PM (0FSuD)

 

I never felt more free than the time I spent in El Salvador in the 80s.

Posted by: Invictus at October 16, 2013 04:40 PM (FBkKA)

284
Well, I hope they don't try to block amnesty, because it might take away from bad obamacare news.


Also, the gop was never gonna win the senate, especially with their kickback happy incumbents.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2013 04:40 PM (N8z9m)

285 With 120% of Philadelphia precincts reporting, I'm calling Philly for Booker.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 16, 2013 04:41 PM (l5zzX)

286 >>Only in my mind? You defended McConnell taking a kickback, saying, "Well of course he's going to do that!" Defending and not being surprised are not the same thing. See if you can tell the difference. >>Only in your mind would that be true. Right. Because when Obama's hometown newspaper comes out and slams Obamacare and says it need to be delayed and fixed and places like NBC, ABC, CBS, even Kos are slamming it never would have been noticed.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2013 04:41 PM (g1DWB)

287 The rest of the party be damned. Posted by: Hollowpoint They will be

Posted by: Beto at October 16, 2013 04:41 PM (MhA4j)

288 Hey, hey, now everybody don't start crackin' on Kentucky. We've got assholes here just like everywhere else. It's still a pretty great place to live.

Posted by: shinypie at October 16, 2013 04:41 PM (7NzzD)

289 would it be poor form to remind you all that i'm a democrat? Posted by: navycopjoe at October 16, 2013 08:38 PM (nooa6) ------------------ If it weren't for poor form, you'd have no form at all.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 16, 2013 04:41 PM (JDIKC)

290 I actually more upset that House is trading away their prerogatives on the debt ceiling then the kickback.

Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2013 04:41 PM (CMlD4)

291 classic McConnell, getting an outcome he wants without his fingerprints on it

Posted by: Jose at October 16, 2013 04:41 PM (zc/sw)

292 It's cute how JackStraw believes every poll he reads.

Posted by: furious at October 16, 2013 04:41 PM (A98Xu)

293 If that SOB Barack Obama calls me I'll take his call. I'll give him an earful that's for sure.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at October 16, 2013 04:41 PM (Ve3ng)

294 would it be poor form to remind you all that i'm a democrat?

DINO!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2013 04:42 PM (N8z9m)

295 Can us morons agree on a place to start buying ?  If not Belize, where?  

Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 04:42 PM (/jHWN)

296 256 Where can I find the names of the 18 senators who voted against this? Anyone know?

‏@jamiedupree  "No" votes on deal: Coburn OK, Cornyn & Cruz TX, Crapo & Risch ID, Enzi WY, Grassley IA, Heller NV, Johnson WI..

@jamiedupree  More "No": Lee UT, Paul KY, Roberts KS, Rubio FL, Scott SC, Sessions [and] Shelby AL, Toomey PA [and] Vitter LA

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 16, 2013 04:42 PM (YjDyJ)

297 1. Win the Senate 2. ? 3. Profit!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 16, 2013 04:42 PM (ObHhj)

298 But...but....WaPo said it wasn't McConnell but Obama who authorized it. Duh!

From $755M to $3B -- price of sell out

Posted by: Bitch McConnell at October 16, 2013 04:42 PM (Q63S1)

299 How about a nice trailer park with palms?

Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 04:42 PM (/jHWN)

300 The rest of the party be damned.

Hollowpoint.

----

Yeah, too bad his loyalty is to his voters and is doing what he told them he would do, and not to his rotting-from-the-inside party.

Sucks...

Posted by: JarvisW at October 16, 2013 04:42 PM (E7Iyp)

301 It is a really sweet lock apparently. Did cowboy poetry survive the shutdown?

Posted by: Beagle at October 16, 2013 04:43 PM (sOtz/)

302 $3 billion-dimensional chess. Makes perfect sense to me. Now, where did I put that "change AZ political party" application that I printed out the other day?

Posted by: jakeman at October 16, 2013 04:43 PM (vH4YP)

303 It's about the Senate next year. State wide races with more than enough Dem seats in play for us to get control. Eyes on the prize.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2013 08:31 PM (g1DWB)


But your moby script says you're indipendent?

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 16, 2013 04:43 PM (AWmfW)

304 I don't see what all the fuss is about.

Posted by: Fred Upton at October 16, 2013 04:43 PM (JQuNB)

305 "During the Bush years I could at least enjoy winning elections, even if the party wasn't quite what I hoped it would be."

Whereas I spent the Bush years in the political wilderness, saying to everyone else on the right who I could get to hold still long enough to listen,

"This may seem like a success right now, but it's actually a failure, and it will soon be seen to be such. The hangover from this is going to be nauseating and shaky and it's going to last for a long, long time."

Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2013 04:43 PM (gqT4g)

306 Well, hell, at least millionaire widow of Frank Lautenberg got $174,000 in the bill, so...

Posted by: Bitch McConnell at October 16, 2013 04:43 PM (Q63S1)

307 What do you people have against good ol' Constitutional government?

Posted by: Trent Lott at October 16, 2013 04:44 PM (JQuNB)

308 Thank you Miss 80s. I am glad to see my senator's name on that list.

Posted by: Mama winger on her iPad at October 16, 2013 04:44 PM (P6QsQ)

309 Yeah, right. You'll love a country run like Harlem with open sewers and REALLY corrupt officials.

Good Luck.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2013 08:38 PM (0FSuD)

 

 

 

 

 

LOL.  The 3rd world only sucks if you're poor. And you talk like it's going to be any different here in 10 years.  In 10 years, Belize and other similar places with nice climates will have few of the "open sewer" issues, they'll still have the ability to buy private health insurance and pay for medical care out of pocket, and the politicians will be no worse than the commissars running this place.  And the locals can be bought cheaply.  I'll take a petty tyrant with a limited budget over a cadre of motivated and well funded Stalinists with their trigger fingers getting ever-itchier. 

Posted by: Reactionary at October 16, 2013 04:44 PM (jfeoD)

310 But...but....WaPo said it wasn't McConnell but Obama who authorized it. Duh!
===

Well, Barry seems to authorize a lot of stuff.  It's magic!

Posted by: mrp at October 16, 2013 04:44 PM (HjPtV)

311
It's a big infrastructure project, a # of districts in and around that project, in multiple states, will benefit.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe




Olmsted Locks and Dam - The spice must flow!*

*betwen Paduch and Mound City

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2013 04:44 PM (kdS6q)

312 There is something either mentally fucked up (dementia) or evil with John McCain.

There is a real nasty side of him that reveals itself occasionally in interviews, such as with Laura Ingraham.

I respect his service as a war hero, but he disgusts me beyond belief now for the way he looks down at those he's PAID to serve.

Filthy old entitled bastard with a fat, useless, entitled bitch daughter.

I hate the day I, my husband, and son pulled the lever for the worthless douche.  We were actually voting for Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 04:44 PM (lVPtV)

313 Anyone who thinks this is Ted Cruz's "fault" is a dumbass. Like the "establishment" republicans weren't going to screw over anyone who took their air time and made them look like the self serving jackasses they are.

Posted by: furious at October 16, 2013 04:44 PM (A98Xu)

314 If not Belize, where? I'm sold on Belize. Went on our honeymoon there, and it will be a perfect place to live on a boat and drink rum to forget about all this crap. While earning absolutely no money that Uncle Sam needs to know about. You want to send me a 1099? Sorry, I can't have you as a client.

Posted by: jakeman at October 16, 2013 04:45 PM (vH4YP)

315 296 Can us we morons agree on a place to start buying ? If not Belize, where? FIFY

Posted by: Grammar Poleece at October 16, 2013 04:45 PM (0FSuD)

316 @269


Lonagan has no chance of winning.

He will lose by a minimum of 15%

There is simply no way of overcoming the Newark, Jersey City, Elizabeth, Paterson, etc fraud machine.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2013 04:45 PM (dwtaK)

317 Meanwhile Obamacare has been burning for the past 3 weeks and they could have spent the time much more effectively pointing that out instead of the news being filled with shutdown theater. --------- You are so lovably gullible. Yes, Jack, the media would have been all over, ALL OVER IT I TELL YOU, this Obamacare melt-down. Watch now, as it seamlessly and effortlessly transitions to some other topic that benefits Obama and looks right past the failure that has been this roll-out.

Posted by: Rich at October 16, 2013 04:45 PM (EaFK8)

318 Maybe it really was the Chinese Connection?
McConnell is married to a Chinese woman. Reid is married to a Chinese boy.

Posted by: Cretin, high grade moron isotopes in thousands of centrifuges at October 16, 2013 04:46 PM (tfSla)

319 But your moby script says you're indipendent? Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 16, 2013 08:43 PM (AWmfW) HA! Yeah, stick with those "independent's" jack.

Posted by: furious at October 16, 2013 04:46 PM (A98Xu)

320 Defending and not being surprised are not the same thing. See if you can tell the difference.

Here's what I can spot from your argument:

1) This isn't surprising.
2) We need to keep our 'eyes on the prize' (or not we, the GOP you are not a part of.)

You are basically declaring this not a big deal.


Right. Because when Obama's hometown newspaper comes out and slams Obamacare and says it need to be delayed and fixed and places like NBC, ABC, CBS, even Kos are slamming it never would have been noticed.

So the places that noticed it would notice it more in your universe?  In this universe does Benghazi get more attention if we don't run a presidential candidate?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2013 04:46 PM (uhAkr)

321 It's a multi-decade Army Corps of Engineering project. It was getting finished eventually regardless. All the reporting indicates that Obama boosted the funding specifically for this type of reaction. I think Obama and ValJar trolled Ace on this one. ValJar is probably the one who notified Heritage about it, nice little dig at McConnell.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 04:47 PM (ZPrif)

322 jakeman @315 I'm sold on Belize. ♔

Ok,  sounds good.  Hmmm.  What about available womens?

Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 04:47 PM (/jHWN)

323 IBD Editorial today,one is that Terrorists are doing dry runs on airlines, again! Great Job, SCOAMF of protecting us from Islamist terrorists.

Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 04:47 PM (z4WKX)

324 Oh, I see, Cruz ruined the carefully sketched out plan to do some unknown thing to Obamacare by preventing the public from seeing Obamacare fall on its ass.

Posted by: eman at October 16, 2013 04:48 PM (eKhu0)

325

282 Hal Rogers is a massive impediment to political progress.

I do not know how to primary him. The trouble is that people like him, always able to bring home the bacon, are going to be almost primary-proof.

 

 

John McLame of teh East.

Posted by: Kaboom Kid at October 16, 2013 04:48 PM (DHQv9)

326 WARNING: THE FIX IS IN.

Mark Levin is reporting that the legislation being voted on tonight will change the debt limit law to the extent that it will automatically raise unless Congress votes to stop it, in which case the President can veto that vote and require a 2/3rds majority to keep the current debt limit.

       The president, when asked after brief comments moments ago whether they would be in the same situation in a few months, stopped, turned, and stated "no".

Posted by: no one at October 16, 2013 04:48 PM (i9tfZ)

327 G-d forbid Cruz actually did as he was voted to do , unlike the other "Partay  Members"

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 04:48 PM (nqBYe)

328 Ok, sounds good. Hmmm. What about available womens? Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 08:47 PM (/jHWN) They are very dark complected, think Harlem.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2013 04:49 PM (0FSuD)

329 I'm no fan of the GOP, but we could have a dream team and still lose.  Have you met the people of this country?  No responsible policy is going to get their support. 

I can't help but wonder if free nations are always destined to destroy themselves once they reach the top. 

Posted by: The Governor at October 16, 2013 04:49 PM (Tlix5)

330 "It's a sucker's game. I choose to no longer play." Today I cast what was to be my last vote ever (NJ special election for senator), but when I got home there was a flyer from my local Republicans. They have done a god job, and worked against the anti-gun bills the legislature passed, so I'll continue to vote in the local election.

Posted by: whoever at October 16, 2013 04:49 PM (UJe/j)

331 New thread on Media turning on Ocare
 (which btw happened even though the shutdown was going on)


Posted by: JarvisW at October 16, 2013 04:49 PM (E7Iyp)

332 You think you're pissed now...just wait until they cram amnesty down your throat. The repubicans are all in on this as well.... fuck em all

Posted by: ET at October 16, 2013 04:49 PM (YpjaN)

333 Cruz, was like one of those kids and ruined our shtick!

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 04:49 PM (nqBYe)

334 Hee.  Took our son and his Marine buddy to an open house event at our club.  They both spruced up in case they met any "hot" women.

LOL.  I told them, the only "hot" women you'll meet are women having hot flashes.

They did, however, get introduced to a retired Marine three-star general.  And all the old vets bought them drinks.

They're now in bed passed out.  Hopefully, not puking during the night.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 16, 2013 04:49 PM (lVPtV)

335 Obamacare is still fucked, so what do the boys with the crystal balls say the Networks will report next week? The perfidy of Democrats? The futility of collectivization? The distraction is gone, let's see the whirlwind of negative press.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2013 04:50 PM (ZshNr)

336 286 With 120% of Philadelphia precincts reporting, I'm calling Philly for Booker.

Posted by: Purp at October 16, 2013 08:41 PM (l5zzX

What the what the

Posted by: Regular Guy at October 16, 2013 04:50 PM (N3Al8)

337 in other news from the AP (still no results for the NJ senate race):

"Veteran character actor Ed Lauter dies at age 74, publicist says."

(Who? The publicist owes the estate a refund, if you ask me, and I did.)

Posted by: mallfly at October 16, 2013 04:50 PM (bJm7W)

338 Oh, I see, Cruz ruined the carefully sketched out plan to do some unknown thing to Obamacare by preventing the public from seeing Obamacare fall on its ass. ------ Exactly. Had it not been for Cruz, Boehner and McConnell had a really good one up their sleeve, just ready to pounce at the right moment! If you only you believed...

Posted by: Rich at October 16, 2013 04:50 PM (EaFK8)

339 296 Can us we morons agree on a place to start buying ? If not Belize, where?

FIFY

Posted by: Grammar Poleece at October 16, 2013 08:45 PM (0FSuD)

 

Costa Rica has a pretty good running start as it is.

Posted by: Invictus at October 16, 2013 04:50 PM (FBkKA)

340 Okay! So I've figured out why people run for Congress:


1) access to the Treasury
2) you can fuck over your enemies with the force of law behind you
3) gold-plated benefits package
4) "campaign contributions"
5) sell access to aforementioned Treasury
6) gin and hookers 24/7

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 16, 2013 04:50 PM (8sCoq)

341 Whoa! Lonegan won Essex county Bookers home turf of Newark resides there... hmmmm --- That's where he used to hang with his homies, gang bang in' and doom' drive bys and shit.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 16, 2013 04:50 PM (zvm+3)

342 Cruz MADE  those other members add pork,  and assorted crap to Bills, I watched Him!

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 04:50 PM (nqBYe)

343 Yeah, right. You'll love a country run like Harlem with open sewers and REALLY corrupt officials. ........... Obviously another moronic dipshit spouting off... Have YOU ever been to Belize? If you have and feel this way...you have no connections!

Posted by: Papa at October 16, 2013 04:51 PM (jECGF)

344 WARNING: THE FIX IS IN. Mark Levin is reporting that the legislation being voted on tonight will change the debt limit law to the extent that it will automatically raise unless Congress votes to stop it, in which case the President can veto that vote and require a 2/3rds majority to keep the current debt limit. The president, when asked after brief comments moments ago whether they would be in the same situation in a few months, stopped, turned, and stated "no". Posted by: no one at October 16, 2013 08:48 PM (i9tfZ) I wrote here one day this week that Beck has been teasing us since early last week about something he’d tell us about on Thursday, that they sold us out and to Defund the GOP. This must be it. Glenn had to know that they’d force the vote today with tomorrow’s “debt ceiling deadline.”. I’ll be sure to listen tomorrow. Levin is one an hour delay here. I’ll turn radio on now. Thanks No One!

Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 04:52 PM (z4WKX)

345 Oooo... I googled moving to Belize and found this.. hmmm.  Reenforces what I've always thought of with the xpat lifestyle. 

http://bit.ly/18njXWq

Maybe a nice cheapo trailer park on the gulf coast.... with palms and no internet...

Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 04:52 PM (/jHWN)

346 They had to appropriate $3B to make sure that $160M wasn't wasted on canceled contracts. --/ Hey, they save money the same way as wife.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 16, 2013 04:52 PM (zvm+3)

347

340 296 Can us we morons agree on a place to start buying ? If not Belize, where? FIFY
Posted by: Grammar Poleece at October 16, 2013 08:45 PM (0FSuD)

Costa Rica has a pretty good running start as it is.

 

 

 

 

Philippines, 7000 island. Pick one out.

Posted by: Kaboom Kid at October 16, 2013 04:53 PM (DHQv9)

348 Corker must go.  He needs to remember what happened to Lincoln Davis in his district.  Did TFG give the kids his "next time you better behave" speech yet?

Posted by: whaha at October 16, 2013 04:53 PM (xR46S)

349 Costa Rica has a pretty good running start as it is.

Posted by: Invictus at October 16, 2013 08:50 PM (FBkKA)

 

I'm praying for Anna and alex to win the lottery and buy an island.

otherwise i'm stuck  in good ole usa land of the Free.. And anything is Possible with hard work!

of progressives

 

yeah

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 04:53 PM (nqBYe)

350 willow, new thread of course

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 16, 2013 04:53 PM (nooa6)

351 Meanwhile Obamacare has been burning for the past 3 weeks and they could have spent the time much more effectively pointing that out instead of the news being filled with shutdown theater.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2013 08:27 PM (g1DWB)

 

I could be wrong, but that was the entire focus of Ted Cruz. You seem to be slow on the uptake.

Posted by: Ronster at October 16, 2013 04:53 PM (ATHJ6)

352 I felt good about Bush not b/c of winning elections but because I felt he handled 9/11 with dignity and put the safety of the country first. I realize a lot of bad stuff got wrapped into that, but I never doubted his focus on keeping us from having another major terror attack at home.

Posted by: Y-not at October 16, 2013 04:54 PM (5H6zj)

353 Whoa! Lonegan won Essex county Bookers home turf of Newark resides there... hmmmm --- That's where he used to hang with his homies, gang bang in' and doom' drive bys and shit. Posted by: WalrusRex at October 16, 2013 08:50 PM (zvm+3) Walrus Rex, keep filling us in on the results. I donÂ’tÂ’ think national media is going to. Please? I would love Lonegan to win!

Posted by: CarolT at October 16, 2013 04:54 PM (z4WKX)

354 >>But your moby script says you're indipendent? In case it's slipped your grasp, ace is also an independent. It's actually possible to hold conservative views, not be a member of the Republican party, but still hope they are in power because the other team sucks worse. I love it when dunces show up one day and claim a someone who has been commenting here for years is a moby. >>So the places that noticed it would notice it more in your universe? In this universe does Benghazi get more attention if we don't run a presidential candidate? The place where every citizen in America is effected by a disastrous law. This really isn't all that complicated. Benghazi didn't get the attention we thought it should because frankly most Americans aren't personally effected and therefore don't give a shit. Sad but true. Obamacare reaches into everyone's pocket and gives the government frightening new powers over every citizen that most are just waking up to now. They didn't believe us when we warned them. They didn't believe it when Romney and Ryan ran explicitly on getting rid of it. But they will believe it when it actually goes into effect and causes them significant pain. The fuckup with the exchanges is just a prelude. When the bills come due and the intrusive looking into everyone's lives becomes obvious then people will give a shit.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2013 04:54 PM (g1DWB)

355 I'm changing my registration to democrat.

Posted by: Jack at October 16, 2013 04:55 PM (gWHwW)

356 If I had to dig deep into the bottom of the barrel for a silver lining, I would say that government itself comes out of this looking corrupt, incompetent, and dishonest.0

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 16, 2013 04:55 PM (zvm+3)

357 ty navycopjoe

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 04:55 PM (nqBYe)

358 343 Cruz MADE those other members add pork, and assorted crap to Bills, I watched Him! --- LOL. Thanks for the chuckles, willow!

Posted by: Y-not at October 16, 2013 04:55 PM (5H6zj)

359
SEC. 156. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary of Transportation may obligate not more than $450,000,000 of the amounts made available to carry out section 125 of title 23, United States Code, under chapter 9 of title X of division A of the Disaster Relief Appropriations Act, 2013 (Public Law 113–2; 127 Stat. 34) under the heading ‘‘EMERGENCY RELIEF PROGRAM’’ under the heading ‘‘FEDERAL-AID HIGHWAYS’’ under the heading ‘‘FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION’’ for emergency relief projects in the State of Colorado arising from damage caused by flooding events in that State in calendar year 2013:




BRB - building a few emergency skateboard parks.

Posted by: Colorado

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2013 04:55 PM (kdS6q)

360 We conservatives can never win this outright. It's by definition a losing battle. We want to conserve (keep things as they are), they want liberal (use a lot) of change. Any compromise moves us award from our position and closer to theirs. And what's worse, if we meet them half-way this time, and then half-way the next, we're 75% of the way to their position. I hate to say this about our beautiful country, but we may have to LET IT BURN!!! And start over. I really wonder if the Founding Fathers expected it to last this long...

Posted by: crazywalt at October 16, 2013 04:56 PM (tpS8f)

361

355  It's actually possible to hold conservative views, not be a member of the Republican party

yep

im the ultimate proof

Posted by: navycopjoe at October 16, 2013 04:56 PM (nooa6)

362 i should stayed a democrat, at least they fight

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 04:56 PM (nqBYe)

363

navycopjoe, lol lets' take the dem party away from progressives!

 

since it doesn't work trying to make republicans figth back for the country

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 04:57 PM (nqBYe)

364 I'm sold on Belize. Went on our honeymoon there, and it will be a perfect place to live on a boat and drink rum to forget about all this crap. While earning absolutely no money that Uncle Sam needs to know about. You want to send me a 1099? Sorry, I can't have you as a client. Posted by: jakeman
----------------------------

I've been there too.You will  have to live on your boat. If you have a house, you will likely have a wall around the house, and bars on the windows. It is the 6th most crime-ridden country in the world.

"Due to the extremely high murder rate per capita, Belize is the sixth most violent country in the world, according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, with an average of over 40 homicides per 100,000 residents. Murders are a growing and continuing problem for Americans, Belizeans, and Belize law enforcement and security. In 2012, Belize recorded 145 murders, setting a new record for homicides in the country. The murder rate was nearly 15 percent higher than 2011. "

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 16, 2013 04:58 PM (aDwsi)

365

you'd think if we had just a few hundred good men and women.

 

but those are hide to find to fight this insane beast

Posted by: willow at October 16, 2013 04:59 PM (nqBYe)

366 Off with Hillary sock

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 04:59 PM (aDwsi)

367 they are either corrupt, compromised, or opposed to
my ideals.


Shouldn't those be ands not ors.

Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2013 05:00 PM (DL2i+)

368 Ace, I don't like to see you like this although I certainly understand the sense of betrayal and frustration that is behind it. I don't know what, other than term limits, can hope to restrain the good-old-boy system that permits members of Congress to develop such chummy relationships that they conspire to defraud the public. Perhaps I am starved and, as Eddie Murphy would say, it's the best damn Saltine cracker I've ever eaten, but after a long hunger for someone to fight for US, I'll happily gobble up the recent crumbs we've been offered. I have no choice but to see the actions taken first and foremost by Cruz and Lee as sustenance to continue on the journey. The alternative is hopelessness and helplessness and I cannot abide that as an option. We do still have options. Perhaps we have yet to identify them because we are so far into the hole that we cannot see the light of day. This nation has suffered far greater wars and far greater periods of strife and starvation and has managed to survive. Those who came before us were wise. We are none less wise, only, perhaps, more self-involved. This trend of the FSA, of buying votes, cannot be sustained and, by hook or crook, folks will be forced to turn to self-reliance in order to survive. When that happens, and there simply is nothing left to hand out, perhaps the focus of our elected representatives will turn again to the task of making the country work. To taxes, to entitlements, to the investigation of fraud, to an environment that creates jobs, etc... It's gonna hurt but, ultimately, it will be a necessary hurt: Like pulling off a band-aid. Call me a dreamer.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 16, 2013 05:01 PM (DmNpO)

369 So, Jackstraw, did Cruz do harm by making a big stink about Obamacare? The shutdown wasn't about defense spending or the EPA BTW, just was the Plan? A debt ceiling fight? Fought how and with what goals? The sure and certain truth is a GOP majority is useless if it is unwilling to fight and the way you get a majority that is willing to fight is to fight right now

Posted by: eman at October 16, 2013 05:01 PM (eKhu0)

370 322 It's a multi-decade Army Corps of Engineering project. It was getting finished eventually regardless. All the reporting indicates that Obama boosted the funding specifically for this type of reaction.

I think Obama and ValJar trolled Ace on this one. ValJar is probably the one who notified Heritage about it, nice little dig at McConnell.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 16, 2013 08:47 PM (ZPrif)


The rinos own anything Obama does now.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 16, 2013 05:02 PM (AWmfW)

371 I hate to say this about our beautiful country, but we may have to LET IT BURN!!! And start over. I really wonder if the Founding Fathers expected it to last this long... Posted by: crazywalt
--------------------

Not an acceptable stand for those of us who have our lives and fortunes invested, and whose ancestors had the same.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 05:02 PM (aDwsi)

372 also from the AP (still no NJ senate race results): 

A baggage handler arrested after dry ice bombs exploded at Los Angeles International Airport planted the three devices out of personal curiosity, police said Wednesday.

The motive was disclosed a day after the arrest of Dicarlo Bennett, a 28-year-old employee for the aviation ground services company Servisair.

"I think we can safely say he is not a terrorist or an organized crime boss. He did this for his own amusement," said Los Angeles Police Department Deputy Chief Michael Downing, who heads the department's counter-terrorism and special operations bureau.


Posted by: mallfly at October 16, 2013 05:03 PM (bJm7W)

373 Ha ha ha Jeepers is scared

Posted by: bour3 at October 16, 2013 05:04 PM (5x3+2)

374 This thread may be dead at this point, but I don't get all the Belize hate. Yeah, it's not the U.S., and the rules are different. (Same with Mexico, take the bad with the good.) But I've got several friends who spend half the year there, and haven't heard a thing yet that scares me. I'd be living on a sailboat, so I'm not worried about getting screwed on property, which will almost uniformly happen when you're buying out of country. Those of you with open minds are welcome for cocktails anytime. H8ers can scrape the hull.

Posted by: jakeman at October 16, 2013 05:05 PM (vH4YP)

375 327 no one at October 16, 2013 08:48 PM (i9tfZ)

Yeah uh see shit like this and the GOP refusal to uh call the left on this said bullshit is why I am now past caring if "the GOP" wins another election....

nice work Mitch and John

Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 05:09 PM (9jfyN)

376 jakeman... living on the sailboat would be awesome.  or even a large barge tied to  a buoy...

Posted by: Yip at October 16, 2013 05:09 PM (/jHWN)

377 374, naw jeepers is too stupid to be scared.

Posted by: no one at October 16, 2013 05:09 PM (i9tfZ)

378 373
mallfly

"dry ice bombs"

Otherwise know as noisemakers.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 16, 2013 05:11 PM (MnSla)

379 372 Mike Hammer at October 16, 2013 09:02 PM (aDwsi)

My family's been here since the 1680s...

we'll be here after this monstrosity falls.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 05:11 PM (9jfyN)

380 Constitutional amendment: 1) Repeal 17th Amendment. Senators to be selected by state legislators and the governor. 2) Senators limited to one (1) six-year term. Re-election prohibited. 3) Term of House members raised to six years. Limited to one (1) term. Re-election prohibited. 4) A Senator or Congressman may be recalled at any time by a majority vote of the People in their respective States.

Posted by: whoever at October 16, 2013 05:11 PM (UJe/j)

381 369 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 16, 2013 09:01 PM (DmNpO)


The GOP is trying to kill Ted Cruz like the Senate murdered the Gracchi....

You need to adjust your Field of Vision ma'am...

start working at the state and locals and leave the Federal level to the Pro asshole set rather than the enthusiastic minor league GOP set....

if the American people are smart enough to reward the United States of Chicago then unless the grassroots is ready to start tuning up the M$M enablers it is time to just ride out the storm....

it'll last 25-125 years I'd wager.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 05:14 PM (9jfyN)

382 Meanwhile Obamacare has been burning for the past 3 weeks and they could have spent the time much more effectively pointing that out instead of the news being filled with shutdown theater.
---------

Yes, if only the government weren't shut down as a result of trying to stop the disaster that is Obamacare, the media would have no other choice than to report on the disaster that is Obamacare, lol.

It ain't just the elected republicans who are fucked in the head, folks. It's why the party and the country is doomed.

Posted by: great chief at October 16, 2013 05:17 PM (HqVUy)

383 383 great chief at October 16, 2013 09:17 PM (HqVUy)

But my boyfriend the media says he'd stop beating me and report on Ogabecare if I'd just shut the fuck up about Ogabecare and our out of control spending...

//Confused GOP Girlfriend

Posted by: sven10077 at October 16, 2013 05:18 PM (9jfyN)

384 1. Repeal affirmative action, in all of its forms. 2. Restrict the vote to productive citizens only, not those receiving government benefits. The exception would be those wounded in military service. The least we can do is pay their medical bills. As long as we maintain the ridiculous notion that anybody who draws breath should be allowed to vote, we are doomed. Voting must be an earned privilege, not a right.

Posted by: rickl at October 16, 2013 05:19 PM (sdi6R)

385   Maybe it's time to exersize our 2d Adm. rights

Posted by: Texas John at October 16, 2013 05:21 PM (zaC6q)

386 We are rapidly approaching the day where the poltical class is going to need their own green zone. You have a country full of people whose dreams and ambitions are being destroyed by failed economic policy, job crushing regulations and insurmountable debt. You have thousands of people everyday who have to face their own personal armeggedon. Thousands without hope, without anything to lose knowing the game is rigged. We are on the edge of this whole thing coming down. I was talking to a close friend tonight about the possibility of widespread civil unrest and the govt response. Everything from preps, communcation and possible flash points. It is so fucked up to even have to game plan shit like this. I just don't see how any scenario plays out peacefully.

Posted by: Evil Libertarian at October 16, 2013 05:22 PM (Xcb5k)

387 I buy #322. Obama will do spiteful stuff just because he can. I guess it's possible, but how would Hal Rogers get a project into a Senate bill? It does sound like something the Obamites would do. And insist on.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 16, 2013 05:22 PM (xSegX)

388 The fuckup with the exchanges is just a prelude. When the bills come due and the intrusive looking into everyone's lives becomes obvious then people will give a shit.
-----------

And it won't matter at that point because Obamacare is officially here to stay.

Posted by: great chief at October 16, 2013 05:25 PM (HqVUy)

389 So sick of Saints.  Cruz said a thing.  Now the Base unconditionally love him.  Therefore everybody who doesn't 100% support him is against him.  You can never say anything bad about Cruz or else you're McCain or King.  It's Cruz vs 232 + 45 RIIIIIIINOS.


Posted by: Shoot Me at October 16, 2013 05:30 PM (qiXMt)

390 Enjoy it while you can FSA.  Charity from my personal pocket is all dried up.

Posted by: dogfish at October 16, 2013 05:34 PM (nsOJa)

391 Two problems with Belize, if it all falls apart Guatemala will come calling and the possible rise of a black nationalist party.

Posted by: Goatweed at October 16, 2013 06:30 PM (8HrdX)

392 299 But...but....WaPo said it wasn't McConnell but Obama who authorized it. Duh!

From $755M to $3B -- price of sell out

Posted by: Bitch McConnell at October 16, 2013 08:42 PM (Q63S1)

*************

well, then.  Begs the question.  What do we need Congress for?

Posted by: gracepmc at October 16, 2013 07:20 PM (rznx3)

393 Dam Judas.

Posted by: Bret at October 16, 2013 07:23 PM (InYqr)

394

"But...but....WaPo said it wasn't McConnell but Obama who authorized it"

 

 

Yes, just like it wasn't Congress who authorized Congress to get the Obamacare Gold Plan paid for by YOU!    They're all such manipulative liars looking out for each other.

 

Posted by: lily at October 16, 2013 07:33 PM (uw9jr)

395 If you have ever found any candidate for any office with whom you agreed 100% on every meaningful issue, congratulations.  If you expect a major party in a two-party system to perform to your satisfaction more than half the time if you are ideologically more than 25% from dead center, you're an idiot.

If you need to have a party you can agree with 100% of the time - and from the constant carping about the GOP leadership, I gather this is in fact the goal -  forget being part of a major national party.  Find your little niche among the fringe nuts, gather your tiny vote totals and elect no one to any office, but by gum you will have your sacred integrity, won't you?

We could be entering the third week of coverage of Obama's utter incompetence, but at least Cruz and Lee have their mailing lists now, eh?

We Republicans will miss you.  But remember, we can't miss you if you just won't go away, so kindly stop opining about our primaries and leadership and strategies since they no longer concern you, right?  Besides, you will be far too busy building your new perfect movement, won't you?

If you tire of failure, we would welcome you back, but you should certainly learn that pragmatism isn't Satanism first.

Posted by: Adjoran at October 16, 2013 11:31 PM (473jB)

396 Patriots a place at the gallows for statists like you too Adjoran. 

Sleep lightly.

Posted by: HempRopeAndStreetlight at October 17, 2013 12:11 AM (kpphA)

397 I could see one reason for Obama to request this: To catalyze an entirely predictable outburst of outrage against McConnell.

Or to be a bit less tin-foil-hatty, I could see why this is something he could gladly concede, again becasue of the entirely predictable reaction to it.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 17, 2013 02:08 AM (Q9qpj)

398

Wrote this to the GOP and local party HQ:

Greetings.  Just a quick note to let you know that I shall not be supporting you any longer.  Last nights debacle was just too much.  Return to your roots and forego power politics and fight for principle.  I used to vote for the lesser evil (Romney in this last election).  From here out, I shall just not vote for someone who is for the status quo.  I would rather the democrats win and achieve what they have then the republicans do so and then enable the progressive agenda.  A loss on principle, for me, is a win.

Posted by: Thane at October 17, 2013 03:44 AM (g8UC4)

399 Ah, welcome to Fuck It All Thursday!

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at October 17, 2013 06:04 AM (1hM1d)

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