November 06, 2013
— Open Blogger Okay, this one I did not expect. This is a real shock.
I knew Obama was seizing people's health insurance to distribute it to the less well-off.
But I did expect him to manage one thing: To manage to bring down the premiums for those with pre-existing conditions. After all, if we're making those who are healthy pay more than they had, naturally, the unhealthy should pay less, right?
Wrong.
Jim Angle on FoxNews just did a story on a couple in a state's High Risk Pool whose premium just went from $813 per month... to $950 per month. With higher deductibles.
In addition, when they went on the Heathcare.gov website to check the rates, website told them the cost would be half what it actually would be.
The website continues to lowball your "estimate," because people will think their premiums will be lower than they will be. Until the site starts working, and people get their real premiums, this scam can continue.
But when it actually does start working...
As Angle reports, the very people who Obamacare is supposedly designed to help, will actually also be paying more.
Given this full-spectrum disaster, Senate Democrats were reportedly "spicy" (Bret Baier's quote of a Democrat's description) in a closed-door secret (of course) meeting with the Lord of Catastrophes today.
And Open Blog. I'm tired. And I want some pizza.
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Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 06, 2013 02:43 PM (UbDLm)
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 06, 2013 02:43 PM (4MIPA)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 06, 2013 02:44 PM (b9K4P)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 06, 2013 02:44 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 02:44 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 02:45 PM (23Kgq)
Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2013 02:46 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Lauren at November 06, 2013 02:46 PM (hFL/3)
You know, my one time rates are pretty resonable.
Posted by: Zombie Dr. Kevorkian at November 06, 2013 02:46 PM (VNuZf)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 06, 2013 02:46 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: dogfish at November 06, 2013 02:47 PM (nsOJa)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 06, 2013 02:47 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 06, 2013 02:48 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2013 02:49 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 02:49 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at November 06, 2013 02:50 PM (6WVi+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 06, 2013 02:50 PM (UbDLm)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at November 06, 2013 02:51 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 02:51 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: Desolation Angel at November 06, 2013 02:51 PM (XvT1R)
So the already wildly mis-regulated and distorted health care finance system is being detonated to provide subsidized insurance to ...... what? 10 million people? Even that? Recall when, during the jaw-droppingly pathetic "marketing" of this catastrophe by our empty suit affirmative action president, the numbers of the involuntarily uninsured mentioned in his bizarre speeches would vary? Because they started with a ridiculously high number and got bitch-slapped down until they were claiming far fewer than at the start.
Which by itself was a typically unbelievably unimpressive and unserious performance by this crew of idiots.
So this massive self-inflicted disaster could have been averted by cutting checks to a few million households for subsidies. Ditto for the "pre-existing condition" crowd.
Posted by: non-purist at November 06, 2013 02:52 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Oscar Wilde at November 06, 2013 02:52 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian, now with 50% more sensitivity at November 06, 2013 02:52 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 06, 2013 02:52 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 06, 2013 02:53 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 06, 2013 02:54 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Sassy at November 06, 2013 02:54 PM (LINs9)
EVERYTHING went wrong. NOTHING works. And no one involved will be held responsible.
If you wrote this into a work of fiction, you'd be panned for writing an implausible hatchet piece.
By God, we need a revolution.
Posted by: dawnfire82 at November 06, 2013 02:54 PM (1/hzQ)
In which the SHTF: People are being forcibly cancelled from their policies due to 404Care at the end of this year. The same people can't get insurance through the exchange because SCOAMF.
Someone will have a heart attack in January and will be uninsured because SCOAMF. I would relish the news except that even though I'm an eeeevil Rethuglican who wants people to die, I am not.
SCOAMF and his henchmen in the media and Congress are going to be directly responsible for the deaths of American citizens. Damn them.
Posted by: Miss Scarlett at November 06, 2013 02:54 PM (uDAyD)
I feel like a huge weight has been lifted off me.
Posted by: BuckIV at November 06, 2013 02:54 PM (gedHR)
Have you heard any more about your neighbor's little girl that was in the horrible accident this morning?
Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 02:54 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 02:54 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 06, 2013 02:55 PM (EnkwX)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2013 02:55 PM (DmNpO)
http://tinyurl.com/n3z8w5b
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 02:55 PM (JA4pL)
The couple in the Jim Angle story already had insurance through the State's high-risk pool.
This is designed to "help" those without insurance.
Now, that group includes those with pre-existing conditions who had no access to a high-risk pool (who might actually need the help), and those who had no coverage because they chose to have no coverage (who most definitely didn't need, nor want, the "help".
Unfortunately, this is yet another example (one of many) of folks in the Federal Bureaucracy saying "we know how to make a market run more efficiently, and effectively, than those who made the market run for the last umpteen years". Adding layers of sandpaper does not make the surface between consumer and seller smoother. It chafes.
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at November 06, 2013 02:56 PM (XrGnJ)
Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 06, 2013 02:56 PM (GaqMa)
My sister had insurance through Missouri State's High Risk pool. She got a letter that it will cease to exist Dec. 31. Her husband is on medicare. She has benign MS...her medicine is $500 a week without insurance. She's scrambling....
Posted by: Tami at November 06, 2013 06:54 PM (bCEmE)
Terrible. Hope she finds something.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 06, 2013 02:56 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 06, 2013 02:56 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: RWC at November 06, 2013 02:56 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 06, 2013 02:57 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: US health pamphlet, pueblo colorado at November 06, 2013 02:57 PM (R6JT1)
Gonna go lie down.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 06, 2013 02:58 PM (lVPtV)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 02:58 PM (4BA+Y)
Actually, that is quite profound.
Posted by: dogfish at November 06, 2013 02:58 PM (nsOJa)
Posted by: --- at November 06, 2013 02:58 PM (r60DJ)
Posted by: model_1066 at November 06, 2013 02:58 PM (DK7BF)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 06, 2013 06:44 PM (b9K4P)
Those who are now on Medicaid, who did not qualify before, and those who do not qualify for Medicaid, but qualify for the O'care Subsidies...
Everyone else if paying more, so they can have insurance...
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 06, 2013 02:58 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 06, 2013 02:58 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: teej at November 06, 2013 02:58 PM (xhr2b)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at November 06, 2013 02:58 PM (qyfb5)
Have you heard any more about your neighbor's little girl that was in the horrible accident this morning?
Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 06:54 PM (P6QsQ)
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Why yes, thanks for asking. She is in ICU tonight with 2 broken legs and a severely bruised Liver. She had a blood transfusion this afternoon and they are observing to see of things stabilize. Her sister is spending the evening here with my family. A lot of talk. Crying. These girls saw something this morning that no little girl should see. It will be a long night I am sure.
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 06, 2013 02:59 PM (jucos)
Posted by: model_1066 at November 06, 2013 02:59 PM (DK7BF)
Posted by: Tami at November 06, 2013 06:54 PM (bCEmE)
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I'll add her to my prayers Tami. I wish there was more I could do. This is like a nightmare.
Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 02:59 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at November 06, 2013 03:00 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:00 PM (4BA+Y)
You've failed me yet again.
Posted by: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev at November 06, 2013 03:00 PM (6WVi+)
This morning he called Jerry Makalov to congratulate him for winning the big election in Virginia.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 06, 2013 03:00 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: RWC at November 06, 2013 03:00 PM (FPUfB)
logprof, um who is Rob Ford? Is he the new Benny Hill? If a politician, toss him into a wood chipper stat.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:00 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: HealthCare.gov at November 06, 2013 03:01 PM (w45HA)
Posted by: seamrog at November 06, 2013 03:01 PM (9oQs0)
If I could, I would actually shove the remaining half of my pepperoni and sausage with extra cheese through the usb for you.
Damn that was good.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 06, 2013 03:01 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 06, 2013 03:02 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at November 06, 2013 03:02 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2013 06:55 PM (DmNpO)
The proper metaphor is "These guys couldn't organize a gang-bang in a Tijuana whorehouse."
Posted by: Colorado Alex at November 06, 2013 03:02 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 06, 2013 06:59 PM (jucos)
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It sounds like she will make it, though, right? This is such good news, although I am sure there is a lot of pain ahead for her and her family.
I know, personally, how devastating this kind of accident can be. A few years ago, my father-in-law struck and killed my mother-in-law. She was behind the car and it was snowing heavily and he did not see her.
Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 03:02 PM (P6QsQ)
You have to ask?
It's going where excessive sums of money laundered through the government ALWAYS go: to buddyroos of the Lords in D.C., to Community
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 06, 2013 03:02 PM (kaGpp)
Posted by: RWC at November 06, 2013 03:02 PM (LpbKr)
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I've been trying to think of a comparable boondoggle in history but I'm coming up empty.
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 06, 2013 03:02 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:03 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at November 06, 2013 03:03 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at November 06, 2013 03:03 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: soothsayer explains it all at November 06, 2013 03:03 PM (YhJ2+)
Habanero lube? OUCH!
From Comedy Central, Loki asks who is better. Thor or Loki?
http://youtu.be/Q-h4ulFK2Ek
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:04 PM (JA4pL)
So...where the fuck in the money going then?
Posted by: tsrblke PhD(c) (No Really!) at November 06, 2013 06:56 PM
well we had a good couple of years...
Posted by: CGI at November 06, 2013 03:04 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at November 06, 2013 03:04 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: soothsayer explains it all at November 06, 2013 03:04 PM (YhJ2+)
Posted by: RWC at November 06, 2013 03:04 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 06, 2013 03:04 PM (wNF3N)
Is there anything besides prayer that the VIA houshold can do to help the family?
I am assuming that the family will try to spend max time at Hopkins, and I don't remember the commute time from your place to Hopkins.
Anyhow,,,,Towson, not Terribly far from downtown.
The ability to provide a home cooked meal, and a short break from the hospital before returning to there.
Our home, and our hearts are open.
Hopefully no allergies to cats.
You can find me on the AoSHQ group for particulars.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 06, 2013 03:04 PM (pkchK)
Posted by: Titanium at November 06, 2013 06:59 PM
1. Choom Boy.
2. Congress.
3. Favored union bosses.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 06, 2013 03:05 PM (kaGpp)
night trying to congratulate him for winning the race for Boston mayor.
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Maureen Dowd wrote a column yesterday about how the mean old White House isn't treating Biden well enough considering his unswerving loyalty to the Won.
Posted by: WalrusRex at November 06, 2013 03:05 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: model_1066 at November 06, 2013 03:05 PM (DK7BF)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:05 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2013 03:06 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:06 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: soothsayer explains it all at November 06, 2013 03:06 PM (YhJ2+)
Actually, you can add "any good pizza" to that list.
I've found decent cheesesteaks, just finally found decent hoagies and still looking for pizza like home.
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at November 06, 2013 03:06 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 06, 2013 03:06 PM (jucos)
Ha, ha, ha. Obama is such a prankster.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 06, 2013 03:07 PM (W9e8l)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:07 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: Obama at November 06, 2013 03:08 PM (1FgrF)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at November 06, 2013 03:08 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 03:08 PM (23Kgq)
Kasie Hunt â€Â@kasie
Sen. Mark Begich, D-Alaska, says that he's enrolled himself in ACA/"ObamaCare" coverage, and that he's signed his brother up too.
Well, know who I'm adding to my Death Pool.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2013 03:08 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 06, 2013 03:08 PM (sByIH)
Posted by: AmishDude at November 06, 2013 03:08 PM (T0NGe)
Where in Texas? Lots of good pizza in the Dallas area.
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at November 06, 2013 03:08 PM (6WVi+)
I'd have to say that woman has what might be considered an "advantage" when pursuing any kind of Special Fairness under the Choom Boy regime.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 06, 2013 03:09 PM (kaGpp)
Posted by: RS at November 06, 2013 03:09 PM (YAGV/)
Posted by: Dr Spank at November 06, 2013 03:09 PM (9jLim)
Posted by: model_1066 at November 06, 2013 03:09 PM (DK7BF)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:09 PM (4BA+Y)
Seriously, when do bammy's chickamins come home to roost? There HAVE TO BE consequences, and I don't mean laurel wreaths and slobbering. I mean like dem-libs losing mightily election after election, nationally and locally. Like IMPEACHMENT & IMPRISONMENT. Like sweet, sweet schadenfreude. Hell, an orange federal jumpsuit and federal gallows like ol' namesake saddam got! Officially sanctioned, of course, all by the Laws Of The Land that pertain to treason, fraud, lies, dereliction of duty... THOSE Laws of The Land.
Posted by: ktnxfirst? at November 06, 2013 03:09 PM (5aT64)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2013 07:08 PM (23Kgq)
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Agreed. After my FIL ran over my MIL, we had to watch him for several days as he expressed a lot of suicidal talk.
Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 03:09 PM (P6QsQ)
"In addition, when they went on the Heathcare.gov website to check the rates, website told them the cost would be half what it actually would be."
So, even when the website WORKS, it still gets things wrong? LOL!
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2013 03:10 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:10 PM (4BA+Y)
~660cal
x2 = 1320cal/day
The "pizza diet". At 1300cal/day you can't NOT lose weight.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 06, 2013 03:10 PM (W9e8l)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:10 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 06, 2013 07:04 PM (pkchK)
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Thanks VIA. Anna. Mom and Dad are spending the night in the hospital tonight for sure. I have Harpers sister here with us for right now. It all should be fine. Thank G-d.
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 06, 2013 03:11 PM (jucos)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 06, 2013 03:11 PM (9+ccr)
In order to get "Open Blogger" credentials, you need to arrange with ace to tend to his personal needs.
In the barrel.
Trust me on this one.
Posted by: OregonMuse at November 06, 2013 03:11 PM (xm1A1)
Posted by: scofflawx, PhD Candidate at November 06, 2013 03:11 PM (Mmwdu)
Posted by: Lord of Catastrophes at November 06, 2013 03:11 PM (Yy2ZT)
Posted by: model_1066 at November 06, 2013 03:12 PM (DK7BF)
Posted by: Dig this at November 06, 2013 03:12 PM (Ezvyh)
Damn pizza blog without obligatory pic of Giadda's hooter's hovering over the pie? Wazzzup with dat?
FYI, I make some pretty mean pie. Cut my tooth working in a pizza joint when I was in high school and have mastered a cracker crust. I take a tin of canned pasta sauce like Hundt's and bump it up with an addition of fresh-ground black pepper, fennel and garlic powder. I like a mushroom black olive. Don't forget to sprinkle oregano over the cheese before you pop it into the highest heat your oven can deliver onto a stone.
Too hot in the kitchen? Put your stone in the gas grill and crank it up!
Posted by: Cicero Kid at November 06, 2013 03:12 PM (DHQv9)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:12 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2013 07:10 PM
Choom Boy lies. He lies like a fuckin' rug.
Therefore, it is completely safe to expect that his website will also lie.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 06, 2013 03:12 PM (kaGpp)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2013 03:12 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: model_1066 at November 06, 2013 03:12 PM (DK7BF)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 06, 2013 03:13 PM (9+ccr)
Yep. Once O is out of office, there will be the devil to pay. And, he ain't takin checks or AMEX.
Posted by: odd... at November 06, 2013 03:13 PM (kduZC)
Posted by: Dig this at November 06, 2013 03:13 PM (Ezvyh)
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at November 06, 2013 07:08 PM (6WVi+)
Near DFW airport. I can find ok pizza of a different style, but I'm looking for real NY/Philly type stuff.
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at November 06, 2013 03:14 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: RWC at November 06, 2013 03:14 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:14 PM (4BA+Y)
Now the Bavarian Bombshell herself!
http://youtu.be/qIb5872TLXo
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:14 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: Null at November 06, 2013 03:14 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Kensington at November 06, 2013 03:14 PM (Yy2ZT)
This current regime lives in a bubble with like-minded asswipes.
They had no idea what a backlash Bummercare would create.
Kaopectate sales are through the roof, chasms are slowly forming between the true believers and the go along get along libs.
This gonna be fun to watch.
Posted by: seamrog at November 06, 2013 03:15 PM (9oQs0)
https://www.humblebundle.com/
Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at November 06, 2013 03:15 PM (e4elg)
Posted by: Dig this <
Yeah, it's a shame there is nobody left out here that are for cutting spending, smaller government and having it leave us the f&*% alone. Nice fire though.
Posted by: Roy at November 06, 2013 03:15 PM (tiOTz)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:15 PM (4BA+Y)
Imaging my shock when I found out that I couldn't keep my security team if I liked my security team.
Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at November 06, 2013 03:15 PM (Pr6hk)
There's nothing good in Dallas, nothing.
And most pizzas are spit-on there.
Posted by: Dr Spank at November 06, 2013 03:15 PM (9jLim)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at November 06, 2013 03:15 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at November 06, 2013 03:15 PM (jucos)
And, by kooks you mean the dwindling number of employed, tax paying middle class producttve folks, right?
Posted by: odd... at November 06, 2013 03:16 PM (kduZC)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 06, 2013 03:17 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Phinn at November 06, 2013 03:17 PM (6RDA5)
Yeah, the Democrats are busy printing up a bunch of phoney ballots that one of their operatives will "find" in the trunk of somebody's car and every single one of them will turn out to be a vote for the Democrat and they'll be just enough to win.
And nobody in the media will question this and the Republicans won't fight it, or if they do, the fight will be half-hearted and quickly finished.
In other words, business as usual.
Posted by: OregonMuse at November 06, 2013 03:17 PM (xm1A1)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:18 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:18 PM (uf1pv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:18 PM (uf1pv)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:19 PM (4BA+Y)
This gonna be fun to watch. Not if your one of the Romans watching the Vandals burn Rome to the ground. Now, if you are one of the Vandals, THAT is entertainment!!!
Posted by: Alaric 1 at November 06, 2013 03:19 PM (kduZC)
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/thank-you-doctor-lee/
Posted by: mama winger, socon warrior nanny at November 06, 2013 03:19 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: VA Democratic Poll Worker at November 06, 2013 03:19 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:19 PM (JA4pL)
Hot pockets help me concentrate.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at November 06, 2013 03:19 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:20 PM (uf1pv)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 06, 2013 03:20 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Lily Von Stupp at November 06, 2013 03:20 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: jakeman at November 06, 2013 03:21 PM (vH4YP)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:21 PM (uf1pv)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:21 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 06, 2013 03:21 PM (uf1pv)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at November 06, 2013 03:22 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: DangerGirl, home sweet home at November 06, 2013 03:22 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:22 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:22 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: model_1066 at November 06, 2013 03:23 PM (DK7BF)
Posted by: OregonMuse at November 06, 2013 03:23 PM (xm1A1)
Posted by: Jim Gaffigan at November 06, 2013 03:23 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 06, 2013 03:23 PM (W9e8l)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at November 06, 2013 03:24 PM (yiFyi)
Posted by: RWC at November 06, 2013 03:24 PM (LpbKr)
Posted by: Tuong Lu Kim at November 06, 2013 03:24 PM (e4elg)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:24 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 06, 2013 03:24 PM (sByIH)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2013 03:24 PM (KL49F)
177 Now, if you are one of the Vandals, THAT is entertainment!!!
Posted by: Alaric 1 at November 06, 2013 07:19 PM (kduZC)
--Alaric was a Goth, not a Vandal, right
Hmmm.... Visigoth... Vandal...
As one of your great leaders once said, "What difference does it make?"
Posted by: Alaric 1 at November 06, 2013 03:24 PM (kduZC)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:25 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: Jim Gaffigan at November 06, 2013 03:25 PM (jucos)
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I'm calling shenanigans of this Faux news story. Everyone knows it was impossible for folks with pre-existing conditions to get insurance before Obamacare.
Posted by: great chief at November 06, 2013 03:25 PM (HqVUy)
The exchange and reparation ships.
http://www.combinedfleet.com/Kokansen.htm
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:26 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:26 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: jakeman at November 06, 2013 03:26 PM (vH4YP)
Andrew Sullivan, all conflicted and stuff:
I love this president, regard him as the sanest man in Washington, think his two terms still have the potential to be transformative, believe his foreign policy has been cool-eyed and under-appreciated, and know that he helped preside over a civil rights revolution not seen in decades.
But he over-sold his well-intentioned, moderate plan for universal health insurance. He made a decision in a polarized climate to over-simplify to the point of near-deception. I don’t think it’s outright deception because the plan does indeed mean that large numbers of people will not be forced to switch plans so much as upgrade some. But he still said something that was untrue and he underlined it with a “period”, meaning there were no caveats.
http://tinyurl.com/mbjater
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2013 03:27 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:28 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: Jim Gaffigan at November 06, 2013 03:29 PM (jucos)
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2013 03:29 PM (4BA+Y)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 06, 2013 03:30 PM (sByIH)
So, even when the website WORKS, it still gets things wrong? LOL!
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2013 07:10 PM (KL49F)
This probably came from the estimator 'feature' on the 404 website. They only have two categories for age, over and under 52. So the estimator uses 27 for the young, and 52 for the old. In other words, the cheapest possible ages for the categories. So when the 60 yo sees the ACTUAL rates, they are nowhere near the 'estimated' ones.
This is not a bug, but a feature of the estimator function. And I'm using the word function very very loosely here.
It's lies, all the way down.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 06, 2013 03:30 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Jim Gaffigan at November 06, 2013 03:31 PM (jucos)
Posted by: rickl at November 06, 2013 03:31 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Tuna at November 06, 2013 03:31 PM (M/TDA)
So it's happening all over.
Those racist insurance companies. smh.
Posted by: PJ at November 06, 2013 03:31 PM (ZWaLo)
Pool whose premium just went from $813 per month... to $950 per month.
With higher deductibles.
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I'm calling shenanigans of this Faux news story. Everyone knows it was impossible for folks with pre-existing conditions to get insurance before Obamacare.
Posted by: great chief at November 06, 2013 07:25 PM (HqVUy)
And if he were anything like the lady mentioned here earlier his premium should have gone down to $1.10 per month.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 06, 2013 03:32 PM (H0R/1)
Posted by: rickl at November 06, 2013 03:32 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: jwb7605[/i][/u][/b] at November 06, 2013 03:34 PM (Qxe/p)
http://ww2db.com/read.php?read_id=330
Just watch Judgement at Nuremberg again. Spencer Tracy, William Shatner, Burt Lancaster. Should cover the same ground.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 03:34 PM (JA4pL)
Posted by: soothsayer explains it all at November 06, 2013 03:35 PM (YhJ2+)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b] at November 06, 2013 03:37 PM (sByIH)
Just watch Judgement at Nuremberg again. Spencer Tracy, William Shatner, Burt Lancaster. Should cover the same ground.
sorry for the OT.
Great movie. Tremendous acting from Schell, Garland and Cliff. The ending scene when Tracy gently but truthfully confronts Lancaster on his action, is one of the most stirring scenes in the cinema. Makes we want to dig out my old tape that I recorded about 20 years ago when it played on TNT.
Posted by: odd... at November 06, 2013 03:40 PM (kduZC)
Posted by: Pissed off in Mississippi at November 06, 2013 03:41 PM (bQMb4)
Posted by: NCwoof at November 06, 2013 03:42 PM (aUQgu)
Posted by: NCwoof at November 06, 2013 03:44 PM (aUQgu)
AT ALL.
Wait til THAT shite hits the fan.
Posted by: Beverly at November 06, 2013 03:45 PM (4Xsc+)
Do you smoke? Own a handgun? Ever taken anti-depressants? Ever been treated for a medical condition? Ever had surgery? Ever donated to a conservative cause or been registered as other than a Democrat?
Posted by: OCBill at November 06, 2013 03:46 PM (rFipM)
And if you are a practicing Catholic? The IRS will also need to know all your list and more.
Posted by: NCwoof at November 06, 2013 03:56 PM (aUQgu)
Posted by: HAHAHA at November 06, 2013 04:00 PM (sFQQn)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2013 04:16 PM (Z9EHQ)
Ace, premiums did go down. They went down from $813/mo to $950/mo. Just like the chocolate ration went up from 300g to 200g.
Get with the Newspeak.
Posted by: Jeffersonian at November 06, 2013 04:44 PM (gxCRt)
Posted by: name at November 06, 2013 04:58 PM (KqnY1)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2013 06:55 PM (JA4pL)
Objection! Those are Taiwanese girls.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 06, 2013 05:00 PM (vDVp5)
Posted by: Sad Marmot at November 06, 2013 05:01 PM (SrWki)
Posted by: Corona at November 06, 2013 05:26 PM (fh2Y7)
For 99% of Americans, its an unmitigated disaster.
That 1% that will 'benefit' isn't where you'd think: Its the 55-64 year olds, wealthy, who have retired early, have insurance pre-Obamacare, but don't yet qualify for Medicare. They're on the receiving end of the the 'community rating' redistribution and might get lower rates, especially if they have serious pre-existing conditions.
That's it, everyone else is screwed. Even these people are screwed as soon as they turn 65, because Obamacare pillages $714 BILLION from Medicare for just the first 10 years and >$100 billion each year after. Plus, it killes Medicaid Advantage. Plus, Obamacare creates a brand new Agency whose sole mandate is to find yet more ways to cut Medicare.
Posted by: Callawyn at November 06, 2013 09:49 PM (+7Wfv)
Posted by: dscott at November 07, 2013 05:22 AM (PQhpg)
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