April 27, 2013
— Ace I read this woser of an article last night.
One giant leap for mankind: £13bn Iter project makes breakthrough in quest for nuclear fusion, a solution to climate change and an age of clean, unlimited energyIt may be the most ambitious scientific venture ever: a global collaboration to create an unlimited supply of clean, cheap energy. And this week it took a crucial step forward. Steve Connor reports
Big shakes, huh?
This morning I read Doc Zero's debunking of it.
The "breakthrough" is that they got final approval for pouring the reinforced concrete blanket. After thousands of words extolling the benefits of nuclear fusion, and relating the long history of the Iter project, we're finally given a timeline that doesn't even mention the year 2013 at all. The last significant event on the timeline was 2005, when the Iter site was chosen; the next notable event will come in either 2021 or 2022, when the first infusion of ionized gas is scheduled. Electricity will not be produced until sometime in the 2030s, and power from the plant won't be commercially available until sometime in the 2050s.
One discounts claims made in advertisments because one understands, naturally, that a business is attempting to create hype for its product.
The media shouldn't be hyping Iter -- this newspaper reporter doesn't own a share of Iter, after all. So one might expect him to offer a straight accounting of the subject matter. He doesn't seem to have a vested interest in Iter, so one isn't on defense as regards exaggerated claims.
But of course the whole of the media has an interest in hyping the shit out of every article they publish, just to grab interest and sell ad-space.
I realize this is a little obvious but I always seem to forget it. I tend to focus on the most obvious bias -- politically-oriented bias, shilling for a party or a policy -- and forget the basic bias of any writer to Get His Stuff Read.
Even though I do that myself.
So here's the accurate, straight version of the headline:
$20 Billion Multi-Government Project Begins Pouring Some Concrete After 10 Years of Planning
Which is slightly less likely to be linked by a blog or in an email.
The project itself may be exciting, but the recent news of it? Not so much. I also imagine this is an easy article to write -- every time a trivial step is taken in the project, one can trumpet a "breakthrough," and then just regurgitate all the previously-written stuff about the goal of the project, which itself does not change, thus being an easy evergreen article capable of many deployments.
"Churnalism:" Weft-Cut Loop tells me that Watts Up With That has coined a term for this fashion of journalism, the re-writing and re-purposing the same damn article with the most trivial of "new" newshooks (such as the breakthrough of successfully mixing and pouring concrete).
They call it "churnalism."
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Posted by: wte9 at April 27, 2013 10:07 AM (6Tcdo)
Posted by: Felt Wrapper at April 27, 2013 10:08 AM (ecmD4)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 10:09 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: ManeiNeko at April 27, 2013 10:09 AM (TiE76)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 10:10 AM (/jHWN)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 10:10 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 27, 2013 10:10 AM (52n2x)
Posted by: Guido at April 27, 2013 10:10 AM (+Eo2f)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 10:11 AM (y2XjR)
Yeah, I read the article (just once, though) and concluded that I had been scammed. That asshole writer wasted 5 minutes of my life.
Drudge deserves a kick in the nuts too.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 27, 2013 10:12 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: ace at April 27, 2013 10:12 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: ace at April 27, 2013 10:13 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: JFKY at April 27, 2013 10:13 AM (3abvB)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 27, 2013 10:13 AM (52n2x)
Add in a bunch of leftie/AGW catechism: Green! Sustainable! Environment! And Bob's your Drunckle, you've got your nothingburger of a 'science' article.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 27, 2013 10:13 AM (Yr6sH)
Posted by: ace at April 27, 2013 10:14 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 02:11 PM (y2XjR)
They're smarter than you think. With cheap energy, people create new things and produce them without government control and oversight, which is very detrimental for the state.
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 27, 2013 10:14 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: ace at April 27, 2013 10:14 AM (LCRYB)
My bad, I swear I read that as 13 bn$, not 20 bn$.
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 27, 2013 10:15 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 10:16 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Attila at April 27, 2013 10:16 AM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: ace at April 27, 2013 10:17 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Breathless MSM Science Writer at April 27, 2013 10:18 AM (BBWjt)
If I read current exchange rates correctly, it should be about $16.9 bn.
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 27, 2013 10:19 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2013 10:21 AM (/N0lW)
Posted by: ace at April 27, 2013 10:22 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Parisparamus at April 27, 2013 10:22 AM (x/JOk)
What was that all about thinking not Mirandizing Djoker was somehow depriving him of his rights? Do urinalists not understand rights?
Posted by: Sphynx at April 27, 2013 10:23 AM (OZmbA)
BP - USD .6456
thus $20.14 bn.
Previous post was for Euros (since it was in frogland).
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 27, 2013 10:23 AM (Cnqmv)
Posted by: ace at April 27, 2013 10:25 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Sphynx at April 27, 2013 02:23 PM (OZmbA)
It would be easier listing the things they understand. They are really really stupid.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2013 10:26 AM (/N0lW)
Rule #1 at AoS: If you do read the post, Do Not over-analyze it. Do not conduct a cost-benefit analysis. Do not fact-check.
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 10:27 AM (NLH1M)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 10:28 AM (y2XjR)
Posted by: Kathy Griffinz Nasty Scamper at April 27, 2013 10:29 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 27, 2013 10:29 AM (52n2x)
Posted by: The Moon at April 27, 2013 10:30 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 10:30 AM (y2XjR)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 27, 2013 10:31 AM (52n2x)
Posted by: Aloha Akhbar @PirateBallerina at April 27, 2013 10:32 AM (/lWM8)
General attribution: "People say . . ."
"Some say . . . "
"Experts confirm . . . "
The Above also used in the "Ancient Aliens" series on History channel.
"Ancient Alien researchers believe . . . "
Posted by: Sphynx at April 27, 2013 10:32 AM (OZmbA)
the last person to run a cost-benefit analysis on one of Ace's jokes (about the hotel) regretted it
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 10:33 AM (vzLhi)
Posted by: sTevo at April 27, 2013 10:33 AM (VMcEw)
http://tinyurl.com/2adkbj (PopSci article)
There's a much better article out there on this, but the above link will get you started. Very impressive achievement.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 27, 2013 10:33 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 27, 2013 10:33 AM (R+6Q+)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 10:33 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Elizabethe on the phone at April 27, 2013 10:34 AM (qPCAa)
According to google: 98.22 Japanese Yen
I was right!
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 27, 2013 02:31 PM (52n2x)
It's a remarkable tribute to the strength of our economy that, after 5+ years of the JEF's dimwitted dumbfuckery in trying to tank it and transferring shit away from producers to deadbeats, this still happens.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2013 10:34 AM (/N0lW)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 27, 2013 10:35 AM (52n2x)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 27, 2013 10:35 AM (R+6Q+)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 10:36 AM (y2XjR)
Wine, Chocolate, Beer gives you cancer.
Wine, chocolate, Beer can kill you.
Wine, chocolate, Beer makes love life more exciting.
Wine, chocolate, Beer improves memory.
Wine, chocolate, Beer full of antioxidants.
Wine, chocolate, Beer cause of backwards thinking in Conservatives.
Posted by: Sphynx at April 27, 2013 10:39 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 10:39 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Dave S. at April 27, 2013 10:40 AM (UvR6d)
Posted by: Berserker at April 27, 2013 10:40 AM (FMbng)
I love termchurnalism!
OT-I live in Massachusetts. I have received five calls today alone for the MA senate special election. I was a republican for years, changed to unenrolled and sent form to city to change back to R.
Sorry to change topic Ace.
Posted by: CarolT at April 27, 2013 10:41 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 27, 2013 10:42 AM (R+6Q+)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 27, 2013 10:42 AM (52n2x)
ops:Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 27, 2013 10:42 AM (52n2x)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 10:43 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: The Sun at April 27, 2013 10:44 AM (9Bj8R)
Unspoken, unsupported assumptions made before the article is written.
1. Global warming is real and what reasonable people believe.
2. Democrats are good, Republicans have evil/selfish intent, always.
3. What the Obama administration claims needs no vetting. It's true. Always.
Posted by: Sphynx at April 27, 2013 10:45 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 02:39 PM (9Bj8R)
Depends on the cup size.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 27, 2013 10:45 AM (hpYnL)
Posted by: Ed Anger at April 27, 2013 10:45 AM (tOkJB)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 10:46 AM (y2XjR)
Posted by: mallfly at April 27, 2013 10:46 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Fritz at April 27, 2013 10:46 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 10:47 AM (qyfb5)
O/T
It seems to me that all my life the left has been trying to get me to hate America. My earliest political memory is being appalled at how the media treated Gerald Ford.......and, though not media, I still think Chevy Chase is a cocksucker to this day. I mean, this was the "President of the United States" being constantly denigrated.....I just couldn't understand it ( I was born in 69 and thus too young to ever entertain the idea that some folks didn't care WHAT damage they did to the country as long as they got to be in charge.....I still believed folks had the best intentions.
Then came Carter and I COULD NOT believe how the media covered for such an incompetent retard as that jackass. I am a southerner and remember being totally humiliated that this guy was representing our region, much less the US. To say the least, I was ecstatic when Reagan got elected......for eight years all was right with the world-----and, honestly, things weren't too bad under Clinton after the healthcare take over went down in flames (and aside from the fact that he gets to commit perjury when anyone else would've had their ass thrown in jail. I admit that I voted Perot against Bush's 2nd term....the RINO stench was already too much to bear and I just can't see voting for someone who will look me in the eyes and lie to me ("no new taxes") and then expect me to take another lick of the browneye when election time comes again.
And, of course, its all recent enough history with Bush, McCain, Romney and Jef that all that doesn't need rehashed.
The point that I am laboriously coming to is that I think the libs have won. I think I officially hate this country. I have always been a first order patriot, but I just cannot abide what this country has become.......no morals (and before you Ficons jump my ass for being a Socon....no fiscal sanity AT ALL even when Repubs are in charge), uneducated morons who care more about Snooki than which right is being degraded or outright taken away this week deciding who the hell the President is etc.
It shames me to say this, but my reaction to the Boston bombing was "meh"....no outrage, no concern for my fellow American (actually, more like "fuck Massachusetts anyway"...just kept right on planting my garden.
I'm 44 and have a son who is three......I don't know what to teach him about something that I used to be very sure of......American greatness, the brilliance of the constitution, the worthiness of the struggle for freedom. I'm just not sure any of that ring true to me anymore.
Thanks for letting me rant....sorry so long.
Posted by: FITP at April 27, 2013 10:48 AM (nWV0/)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 10:51 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 27, 2013 10:52 AM (R+6Q+)
Posted by: FITP at April 27, 2013 02:48 PM (nWV0/)
I think this should be posted in the psychoanalysis thread.
Just kidding. Welcome FITP, you're not alone.
Posted by: Sphynx at April 27, 2013 10:52 AM (OZmbA)
this reminds me of the comment I made a couple months ago about a book on poison that I wanted to read (because shut up, that's why) and the reviews on Amazon had a bunch of scientists saying the woman's science was wrong, horribly wrong, like stuff she should have learned in high school science but obviously didn't wrong.
But then, all these chemistry professors who bothered take the time to point out how wrong the science was went on to say "but the history is probably right." or "however, I am sure she has the history right" And I wondered to myself why they would make that assumption if she had gotten all the science wrong.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 27, 2013 10:53 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian at April 27, 2013 10:53 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 27, 2013 10:54 AM (2TMW2)
No breakthrough and none likely. There's a multi-billion dollar equivalent fusion experiment in Livermore California that has been trying for several years to "breakthrough" to fusion energy using lasers with no result.
What the press and the Left love is alternative energy schemes "with enough promise" that we should avoid building what works today - nuclear, coal, gas. It is just a promise that is not a promise - it is a diversion, a bait-and-switch.
Posted by: whitehall at April 27, 2013 10:54 AM (1+mGd)
I live right next to Boston and what you wrote doesn't bother me at all. I therefore more than cancel out lincolntf's 'fuck you.'
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 10:55 AM (+oin+)
Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2013 10:55 AM (DL2i+)
Learning how these people think is a real eye opener. It really helps in understanding the "root cause" of their insane beliefs.
Posted by: Ed Anger at April 27, 2013 02:45 PM (tOkJB)
I was in the Green Party throughout college, because 'the Republicrats are all the same!' Following graduation, I tried working for NYPIRG, a group that promoted 'causes'. So they tell me, you can work on gay rights or green energy. I tell them, I don't really give a shit one way or the other about gays, so I'll do the energy one. Well, they were all against fossil fuels which was fine, but the campaign also railed against nuclear. I'd ask some of the other dopes there why we were against the greenest energy available? They'd be all like, "don't believe the corprate lies, maaaaan," to which I'm going, "yeah, you're kind of retarded." Eventually the group leader leveled with me that they were for total energy reduction because people can't be trusted or something, and it's alright to lie a little when it's for the greater good. So I lasted a day there, and was solidly on the right within a few years after that. Fuck those liars.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 27, 2013 10:56 AM (hpYnL)
Speaking of articles, and bias, my son came back from his dad's and told me all about how this college student had debunked two Harvard economists because they made a math error in Excel something about 90% interest rates actually being OK. And all the articles I tracked down did not play up the Harvard failing at basic math angle, no instead they played up the "this punctures the Republican arguments for austerity" and "this shows Paul Ryan's economic plan was way off base" etc.
Because, yeah, that is the most important take away for sure, right, that the Republicans are wrong about how to fix the country.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 27, 2013 10:57 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 27, 2013 10:57 AM (SzAZ7)
Lincoln
I 'said" that it shames me to feel this way.....that I don't feel a kindred with fellow Americans anymore.
Just to slow it down for you....I DON'T like this about my self. But, fuck you too, if you can't read.
Posted by: FITP at April 27, 2013 10:58 AM (nWV0/)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 10:58 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 10:59 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 27, 2013 10:59 AM (2TMW2)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 27, 2013 10:59 AM (R+6Q+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 10:59 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 10:59 AM (qyfb5)
It's worse than that, even. The ITER-DEMO-ARES tokomak path doesn't have any plausible scenario to commercial power: even the most advanced designs have plant power densities an order of magnitude behind current light-water fission reactors, meaning even today's LWRs will produce power for about a tenth the cost of what tokamaks will be able to do... in 50 years.
Meanwhile, some other paths that might conceivably lead to economic fusion power (FRC, Polywells) have to make do on scraps. It's hard to even find anyone in grad school who has studied fusion systems that operate at the quasi-neutral limit; we got tokamak PhDs on the Polywell board who don't even realize how many of their assumptions only hold under local thermodynamic equilibirium.
How did this happen? Simple: it's classic government waste on behalf of its clients. The fusion community likes massive projects because of the employment benefits -- ITER can employ dozens of PhDs for decades. Does anyone care if it costs $50B to achieve what can be done for mere millions with fission? Of course not, it's all for "science."
And don't even get me started on the joke that is NIF, ugh...
Posted by: TallDave at April 27, 2013 11:00 AM (lNW+B)
Cambridge is practically Amherst, MA's twin. Moonbats galore.
A few years back, B.O. (before Obama), the Amherst moonbats volunteered to 'adopt' the GITMO prisoners. That's how twisted they are. To spite Bush and America, they were willing to take in terrorists.
Part of me wanted them to adopt the terrorists. Hilarity would ensue, I'm sure.
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 11:00 AM (KwX0v)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:00 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 27, 2013 11:03 AM (mbZX2)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:03 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Sphynx at April 27, 2013 11:04 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:04 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: L, elle at April 27, 2013 11:04 AM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 27, 2013 11:05 AM (mbZX2)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 11:05 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 27, 2013 11:06 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 11:06 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Ed Anger at April 27, 2013 11:07 AM (tOkJB)
Posted by: Cool Hand Luke at April 27, 2013 11:07 AM (9Bj8R)
Flame Warts, when a flame war gets cankles.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 27, 2013 11:07 AM (mbZX2)
Look, I didn't come here out of nowhere trying to stir up shit......I came here to talk to people who I am usually like minded with about things that are disturbing me. I've posted here before (although not every day like some) so I'm not a troll or a moby or what ever, I just usually lurk.
Nothing quite like getting a little help from your friends to make you realize everything is cool in the world /sarc.
Posted by: FITP at April 27, 2013 11:08 AM (nWV0/)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 27, 2013 11:09 AM (mbZX2)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 11:09 AM (y2XjR)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:09 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 27, 2013 11:09 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:11 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: JimmyJihad at April 27, 2013 11:11 AM (INYkK)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 27, 2013 11:11 AM (mbZX2)
Posted by: JimmyJihad at April 27, 2013 11:12 AM (INYkK)
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy
You wound me, sir. Wound me.
Posted by: Archeology [/i] [/b] at April 27, 2013 11:13 AM (Yr6sH)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 11:13 AM (y2XjR)
We need to compile a list of bullshit shit journalism techniques, name them, and identify them. My favorites, i.e., most hated....
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Anything that uses a White House press release as it's source.
Posted by: Wake Island at April 27, 2013 11:14 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 11:14 AM (y2XjR)
Posted by: Sphynx at April 27, 2013 11:16 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 27, 2013 11:16 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2013 11:18 AM (INYkK)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 27, 2013 11:18 AM (hTDbY)
When I was in my late teens, I remember being very frightened because the two enviro-catastrophist drumbeats of the day, constantly revoiced in the press and by the great and the good, were:
-- The oil and natural gas are all going to run out by next Wednesday. There is no prospect of ever getting more. All of industrial society will grind to a halt and we'll be fighting off the irregular forces of Lord Humungous in the rubble.
-- Nuclear fission reactors could save us from that but only at the price of destroying the genetic future of all life on the planet, as meltdowns would be unavoidable, as often as once a year. Every single meltdown would result in millions of casualties and render areas the size of Pennsylvania uninhabitable forever by man or beast. Plus, radioactive waste lasting for (Carl Sagan stoner voice) "millyuns and millyuns of YEERS".
I thought, at the time, holy fuck, this fusion stuff had really better work, or else quite literally the world as we know it has no future.
So how did those two great fears work out? The oil going away and the fission cataclysm?
We burned up a lot of the fossil fuels, and then clever engineers in the (semi-) free market economy went and found more. A lot more. Enough to last for quite a while. Maybe we will eventually run out. It won't be next Wednesday. It won't be a Wednesday in the year 2100.
There were two really big nuclear meltdowns. Which, combined, seem to have killed a couple of dozen people. Thousands more got one of the most easily cured cancers there is, with one of the best survival prospects of any cancer. And even that would have been forestalled with an intelligent, effective radioprophylaxis strategy of potassium iodide in the right place at the right time.
The area around the first big reactor failure, far from being "uninhabitable by man or beast", has both living in it now. Both seem to be doing amazingly well there.
As for the meltdowns being unavoidable, it sure looks in retrospect as though both would have been incredibly easy to avoid. Both came about through completely hamfisted plant operations decisions and obvious design oversights. In both cases, outside nuclear experts had said there were bad ideas afoot, but had their input ignored. Simple enough to tune up the cross-checking.
And, as for waste being around forever, well, no, the new generation of nuclear reactors being proposed will happily fission that stuff as fuel.
So while I am currently quite interested in fusion, cold and hot, what's clear is that we need have no fear of running out of energy any time soon. The oil exhaustion fears were baseless. So were the nuclear catastrophe fears.
The thing to be afraid of now is that we have the same people (in many cases the literally very same people) who ginned up those previous scares now making energy policy which they insist must be "green". And hence unreliable and costly. THAT is the thing which darkens our otherwise bright energy future.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2013 11:19 AM (gqT4g)
I grew up watching Bird, McHale, Parrish, Dennis Johnson
Yaz, Fisk, Tiant, Hobson, George Scott, Rick Miller, Fred Lynn
Orr, Kluzak, Cashman, Bourqe
Now we have Ortiz, Ellesbury, and a bunch of other jerkoffs who get hurt every day.
We have that piece of shit Kevin Garnett.
And we still have decent Bruins players.
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 11:19 AM (LPRBM)
Posted by: RWC at April 27, 2013 11:19 AM (Wl/Ht)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 27, 2013 11:19 AM (s1lCJ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:19 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: BignJames at April 27, 2013 11:20 AM (H9MGI)
Posted by: Barrack Obama at April 27, 2013 11:20 AM (jlQR7)
We used $2.5 billion to draw a dick on Mars.
If fusion was possible and practical with current technology it would be.
Posted by: CAC at April 27, 2013 11:20 AM (FN5ck)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:21 AM (9Bj8R)
Nevergiveup
I couldn't honestly care what Lincoln has to say about anything.....just another internet tough guy typing while wearing his wife's pantyhose.
I guess I didn't make my point that my attitude towards my country saddens me......... feels like I've lost a family member. I realize that people here are not psychologists, just figured there were others feeling the same way who had maybe learned how to turn it around.
I want to heve hope that America can come back, just struggling with that hope
Posted by: FITP at April 27, 2013 11:22 AM (nWV0/)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 11:23 AM (piMMO)
Things will turn around. Just have to educate the low info's and defeat the successor of His Awesomeness.
Seen it all before.
Posted by: Sphynx at April 27, 2013 11:23 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: BignJames at April 27, 2013 11:24 AM (H9MGI)
Red Sox will finish with 89 wins.
The Cubs, with Theo Epstein, another Obama-loving Brookline, MA limo-liberal shitstain, will finish with 75 wins.
Ha.
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 11:24 AM (yhYn1)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 11:24 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 11:24 AM (y2XjR)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:24 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 27, 2013 11:25 AM (MhA4j)
Before you think that everyone in the country is worthless and stupid, perhaps you need to realize that we get our impressions of the character of our fellow-Americans from the media.
The media has made it its full-time job to convince everyone that the US is not worth saving, that we all are fascinated with Lindsay Lohan and the Kardasshians, that we are all racist homophobes, greedy, selfish, whatever.
This is not true.
I work in a food pantry at my church every Friday. The people who come in havebeen courteous and grateful for the help. They havenot acted entitled, rather hoping that times get better and they can work again. The kids who I run into here are mostly normal people, working hard at school and part-time jobs when they can get them.
This is a big country with a lot of good people. I am not giving up on her.
Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2013 11:26 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:27 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2013 11:27 AM (gMMOI)
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2013 11:27 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 11:27 AM (qyfb5)
Everyone repeat after me: Delegation doctrine, motherfuckers, do you speak it?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at April 27, 2013 11:28 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: real joe at April 27, 2013 11:28 AM (PD2ad)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 11:28 AM (y2XjR)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:28 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 11:30 AM (qyfb5)
Well, I guess if Lincoln wasn't such a cock I might treat him with a little respect, but since he's done nothing to deserve it.........
I realize its not all bout me, Waldo.......that is, in fact, the point....if it was all bout me, i'd just be another fat, drunk, and happy Obama drone.
But thanks for the smack upside the head......sometimes that IS the best cure.
Posted by: FITP at April 27, 2013 11:30 AM (nWV0/)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 11:31 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Ed Anger at April 27, 2013 11:32 AM (tOkJB)
If fusion was possible and practical with current technology it would be.
Posted by: CAC at April 27, 2013 03:20 PM (FN5ck)
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Yeah, in the case of the Solyndra (et al) loan authorizations, it was *signed* by a dick.
Posted by: Wake Island at April 27, 2013 11:33 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 11:33 AM (y2XjR)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2013 11:34 AM (INYkK)
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 27, 2013 11:34 AM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:34 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at April 27, 2013 11:34 AM (5hNpF)
Thanks Miss Marple at 164.
This is what i need to be reminded of, I guess.
fuck those people who got their fucking legs blown off, I don't like their state anyway?"
I never said that and you know it.
Posted by: FITP at April 27, 2013 11:34 AM (nWV0/)
Posted by: wte9 at April 27, 2013 11:35 AM (6Tcdo)
Manny Ortez, as John Kerry calls Ortiz, is a hitting machine. I don't know how he does it. And he's like 45 years old.
36, my ass
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 11:35 AM (BUcLz)
That's graceful work by you and very heartening to hear. Let me give you the flip side of the charity picture in modern America.
In San Francisco, the uber-lefty Glide Memorial Church runs a big canned food giveaway every so often. Often pretty ritzy. I recall Glide gave away entire turkeys one Thanksgiving.
The Glide food drives have become locally notorious for two things.
The first are the local substance abusers who queue up for the free food, walk two blocks, sell it, and go buy themselves a fix or a bottle. They don't eat a bite. They just get wasted, again, on someone else's dime.
The second are a certain immigrant ethnicity who have done well enough for themselves in America so as to be in no need of free food, but who have an overwhelming drive to game any system they encounter. They pull up two blocks away in shiny new Lexuses and Mercedes-Benzes, drop off family members, and come back for those family members shortly with the haul of free food. Hey, they didn't get to where they could afford that new Benz by not taking full advantage.
Every time I get exposed to this stuff, my armor shell of cynicism about the future of this country accretes another heavy layer.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2013 11:35 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 11:35 AM (y2XjR)
Posted by: L, elle at April 27, 2013 11:36 AM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2013 11:37 AM (INYkK)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at April 27, 2013 11:37 AM (fzFF6)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 03:35 PM (y2XjR)
Unheardof.
Posted by: CAC at April 27, 2013 11:37 AM (FN5ck)
Anybody ever try dipping their dick in ink and writing? They use dicks and breasts for paintings, why not for signing legal documents?
That lends a whole new meaning to the word dictation.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 27, 2013 11:38 AM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2013 11:39 AM (dyTRG)
Posted by: Waldo Truth at April 27, 2013 11:39 AM (y2XjR)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:39 AM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: wte9 at April 27, 2013 11:39 AM (6Tcdo)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 11:40 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: real joe at April 27, 2013 11:40 AM (PD2ad)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 11:41 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: real joe at April 27, 2013 11:41 AM (PD2ad)
Posted by: .87c at April 27, 2013 11:41 AM (dGrG1)
The power of the movie review compels.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at April 27, 2013 11:41 AM (Gk3SS)
But the seed was planted. From then on the class looked at his recycling proselytizing as something you would hear from Jimmy Swaggart. Posted by: Ed Anger at April 27, 2013 03:32 PM
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As a long-time member of a state solar energy society, I was invited as a paid panel member for a forum on energy issues. After about 15 min. of listening to the rosy bullshit regarding the future of alternative energies, I began to cite chapter and verse regarding the outrageous subsidies and waste associated with the grants and subsidies to 'Alternative Energy', all with numbers. Abruptly, a monitor appeared and said that I had a call from my wife. I left the room, and it was explained to me once outside that I 'knew too much' about the issues. There was no call from my wife. I was paid twice my agreed-upon sum, and I left.
Posted by: Wake Island at April 27, 2013 11:42 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 11:42 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2013 11:43 AM (dyTRG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:43 AM (9Bj8R)
You must NOT EVER feel shame for this country. It is, and will yet be the most exceptional place on the planet.
Shame belongs to those who will do her harm.
Keep to your vision of what she can be and still is under the foul blanket now covering her.
You CAN make a difference, but it must be on a local level. All things flow from this. This task isn't going to be easy but you CANNOT quit.
We'll prevail, after all we ARE Americans.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 27, 2013 11:43 AM (SAMxH)
Posted by: TFG the PLA at April 27, 2013 11:44 AM (Wl/Ht)
Posted by: real joe at April 27, 2013 11:44 AM (PD2ad)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2013 11:45 AM (INYkK)
Posted by: Grandma Mimi at April 27, 2013 11:45 AM (ZIzxK)
Posted by: Reggie Love at April 27, 2013 11:46 AM (dyTRG)
Mine is a Catholic Church, the pantry is in the basement, they have to walk by a big crucifix which sort of reminds people that Someone is watching. We don't make a big publicity thing out of it. It's only listed in the county food pantry directory, with requests for donations in the church bulletin.
So maybe the Glide pantry is drawing grifters because they make a big deal out of it and getting publicity.
"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."
Matthew 6:2
Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2013 11:47 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2013 11:48 AM (INYkK)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 11:48 AM (qyfb5)
The power of the movie review compels.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at April 27, 2013 03:41 PM
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Mixed emotions about the things. My other half got me one for Christmas. I drink 3-4 mugs of coffee through the morning. I weary of having to refill the water tank, the single dose thingies are expensive, and going through the brew process more tedious than just pouring off a cup from the pot. I would never tell her this, but I would have preferred that she had not bought it. Oh , yeah, it's too tall to fit under our cabinets, so it has to sit out on the counter and is a little in the way. Just saying...
Posted by: Wake Island at April 27, 2013 11:48 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Reggie Love at April 27, 2013 11:49 AM (dyTRG)
Merovign,
Well since you are "I'MGONNACALLTHATOUTCZAR", I'll let you.
But you know full well that my point was about how horribly I feel/felt about having those thoughts.
I still haven't seen a direct quote where I said anything about people getting their legs blown off, but I guess you can just make one at your straw man factory.
Posted by: FITP at April 27, 2013 11:49 AM (nWV0/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:51 AM (9Bj8R)
That's what I get for reading a headline. Figures it's a boondoggle.
Yay big oil companies. At least most of the money I give you is voluntary.
Posted by: Beagle at April 27, 2013 11:51 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 11:51 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 11:51 AM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2013 11:52 AM (dyTRG)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at April 27, 2013 11:53 AM (fzFF6)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2013 11:53 AM (INYkK)
Posted by: mugiwara at April 27, 2013 11:53 AM (hpYnL)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:54 AM (9Bj8R)
Oh, and a big "Thanks" to those who have responded with encouraging words (Fenelon, Grandpa, others).
Posted by: FITP at April 27, 2013 11:54 AM (nWV0/)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 11:55 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Joe Plugs at April 27, 2013 11:55 AM (JQuNB)
Fusion may be a long term strategy, but it would be nice to have a mid-game...like MHD.
The US has ignored MHD though. I presume that was because it scales so well that it could threaten the US govt nationwide regulatory grip by enabling towns and larger businesses to have their own off-grid local generation and telling the big power companies to fuck off.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 27, 2013 11:56 AM (GJtYt)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 11:56 AM (9Bj8R)
We'll prevail, after all we ARE Americans.
The American culture I see the most is comprised of kind hearts and caring individuals. Sure, there's always the random asshole, but they're the exception rather than the rule, and after they leave, they're the ones being talked about for their rudeness in less than glowing terms. I witnessed this first-hand in a store last week.
The situations I see and find myself in with strangers is overwhelmingly one of positivity and good humor.
It's almost like we're being conditioned to believe that what we see with our own eyes isn't the way it is by the media (or at least the Big Ones). This may be in the process of changing, BTW, with the news that a little program that highlights simple family values named Duck Dynasty is the highest rated show in the country.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 27, 2013 11:56 AM (+z4pE)
A big darn tootin' to that! Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 03:55 PM
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One hopes, and continues the struggle, but do you suppose that the Romans thought the same thing?
Posted by: Wake Island at April 27, 2013 11:57 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 27, 2013 11:57 AM (dyTRG)
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 27, 2013 11:57 AM (GJtYt)
the other day some of you were carrying on about golden retrievers or golden labs, was this the inspiration?
warning: your eyes might produce water
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA8VJh0UJtg
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 11:58 AM (Y4TdB)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at April 27, 2013 11:58 AM (fzFF6)
Breyer was appointed to the court in 1994 by President William Clinton.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 03:56 PM
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Everyone knows that bicycles are safer than guns..
Posted by: Wake Island at April 27, 2013 11:59 AM (aDwsi)
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Many of the coffee makers seem to be too big for the space, but since high-tech coffee making has become a hobby maybe they're designed to be conspicuous. The latest version of keeping up with the Joneses.
Posted by: Retread at April 27, 2013 11:59 AM (zxitI)
I read that ITER article and had the same "reaction" (hah) - where's the breakthrough? Nothing but an approval for some concrete to be poured as notes, but I also picked up on the word "seismic" in reference to this concrete. So, if you are going to build a nuclear test reactor, why not build it someplace where the chance of seismic activity is zero?
Answer: because if it wasn't built in France, the French would not play, and the Euros can't work up a good fart without the French. Also this allows the Eurocracy to put all sorts of environmental hurdles in place to ensure that the project is built veeeewy-veeeewy slowly, generating beaucoups union jobs with a staggering payscale for beaucoups years. I call it SIMBY - Slowly, In My Back Yard.
And notice how all the "milestones" seem to be just building things instead of achieving stuff? Almost like they have a plan to spend money, not to actually achieve some breakthrough. They make a point of saying what the damn thing will NOT do - prove the commercial viability of fusion. SIMBY.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 27, 2013 12:00 PM (bCSgp)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 12:01 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Retread at April 27, 2013 03:59 PM
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Ah..., I'm reminded of the Mr. Fusion
Posted by: Wake Island at April 27, 2013 12:01 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 12:01 PM (qyfb5)
@232
The semi-automatic assault Keurig is your other option. Use two cups. I love being able to waste little bits of plastic. So much of the rest of it gets sorted. Don't want to upset the plastic cycle too much.
Posted by: Beagle at April 27, 2013 12:02 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 12:02 PM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at April 27, 2013 12:03 PM (fzFF6)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 12:04 PM (qyfb5)
Limitless power to melt the encroaching glaciers and force them to flow around cities rather than grind them into dust.
About the time fusion becomes commercially ready to deploy is about the time the ice age will be kicking it.
Perfect timing!
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 27, 2013 12:04 PM (GJtYt)
I once made chili with some really hot red pepper.
The result wasn't fusion, more like the China Syndrome.
But I achieved better-than-breakeven: that stuff was hotter coming out than it was going in.
Posted by: Stepan DiGasse at April 27, 2013 12:04 PM (73IHh)
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But wait until the eco-police start checking your garbage.
Posted by: Wake Island at April 27, 2013 12:04 PM (aDwsi)
(OIC, he was talking about the *other* Boston bombing, the one where no one got their legs blown off)
Like I said, nothing is ever accomplished, no one listens, people will do what they will do.
This is so tiresome with your obfuscating bullshit. If you actually "read" the post, it says "I went right back to planting my garden". All I knew was that there was a bombing in Boston......I was "outside" and "in the garden" when I had that thought.....I've already admitted it was wrong....what more do you want? Public flogging?
This is <not> digging, this is defending myself against someone who is trying to impugn my reputation.......If George Bush had have tried it, we might all be better off
Posted by: FITP at April 27, 2013 12:04 PM (nWV0/)
Posted by: .87c at April 27, 2013 12:05 PM (dGrG1)
Posted by: William Teach at April 27, 2013 12:06 PM (vRNdo)
Posted by: Nancy at April 27, 2013 12:06 PM (CH3mr)
A true energy nerd is revealed!
It's been a while since I've looked at those technical issues, but as I recall, there were a couple of things relating to MHD that made it a nonstarter for utilities vs. classic coal plants or vs. aeroderivative natural gas turbine plants.
One was that there were expensive unsolved problems with recovering the "seed" material from the MHD exhaust. Another is that there were expensive unresolved problems with materials science in getting linings that wouldn't erode in what was basically a constantly running rocket engine.
I do recall that there was an MHD peaker plant at the USAF's Arnold engineering development center for a while. I don't know if it still runs but when it did, it was not a continuous service application. I think that Mike Mansfield, then in the Senate from Montana, pushed the funding for this and for other MHD stuff on the theory that it could be a "clean coal" application for Montana coal.
The Russians had an MHD plant in civilian power production during the late Soviet epoch. Don't know if that still runs either. Or if it ever attained continuous service. Or if it was just one of those economically uncompetitive technological showpiece projects beloved in the USSR (e.g., TU-144 Konkordeski aircraft).
Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2013 12:07 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 12:07 PM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 12:07 PM (qyfb5)
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Luddite!..., or something
Posted by: Wake Island at April 27, 2013 12:08 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 12:08 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: TFG the PLA at April 27, 2013 12:09 PM (Wl/Ht)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 12:09 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Wake Island at April 27, 2013 04:04 PM (aDwsi)
I sort all the big crap because it actually makes it easier to get rid of the garbage due to different day pickups.
Given the city is wasting money on two sets of garbage trucks I feel like I have to give them something to do.
Until they make it mandatory. Then I will dump my trash on Orange Avenue by City Hall.
Posted by: Beagle at April 27, 2013 12:11 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 12:11 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: CarolT at April 27, 2013 12:12 PM (z4WKX)
Great. Now I have guilt because I am incapable of sitting through even 10 minutes of that show. Rubs every nerve I have raw.
I'm one of the lost
I just found this show recently after hearing a few other Morons talking about it. I was absolutely codswalloped that it shows rednecks (just like the ones I grew up around back home in Alabama) as normal people. There's little in the way of drama like yelling and screaming, the kids are respectful of their elders and they all do stuff together like cooking out and going bowling. And hunting.
But I'll grant you, it's an acquired taste. I'm really starting to like it more and more.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 27, 2013 12:12 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 12:12 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 27, 2013 12:12 PM (i4RhQ)
Posted by: Dale Carnegeie, Best Selling Author at April 27, 2013 12:13 PM (Wl/Ht)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 12:14 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 12:14 PM (9Bj8R)
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What the hell is it with you people? Some folks down the street have accumulated an entire *pack* of the things. Seven? Eight?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 27, 2013 12:15 PM (aDwsi)
The cool thing about it is you can pump slurried up nasty shit like medical waste, local garbage, some toxic wastes and such through it as fuel and have then busted down into less objectionable exhaust.
Bio-engineer some microby critters that concentrate various elements and set'em to work on mining the dregs
There's a whole shit pot of tech we got today that wasn't there 30 years ago for dealing with "issues"
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 27, 2013 12:15 PM (GJtYt)
Posted by: Dale Carnegeie, Best Selling Author at April 27, 2013 12:15 PM (Wl/Ht)
Posted by: m at April 27, 2013 12:16 PM (ajtU+)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 27, 2013 12:16 PM (i4RhQ)
Posted by: CarolT at April 27, 2013 12:17 PM (z4WKX)
Glad for the small improvement, CarolT, will keep the prayers coming.
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 12:17 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 12:17 PM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 27, 2013 12:18 PM (MBqvE)
No matter, it's a gorgeous day here, the patio chairs are out so I do believe that the first beer of Spring is in order.
Enjoy the day, good people. See you on the ONT.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 27, 2013 12:18 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: CarolT at April 27, 2013 12:19 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 27, 2013 12:19 PM (i4RhQ)
Posted by: Nighthawk at April 27, 2013 12:19 PM (paPv4)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 12:21 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2013 12:23 PM (INYkK)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 12:23 PM (ZshNr)
It took one hematoma and a smashed pineal sp? leg nerve for me to switch to a 3 wheeler. Apparently any random moron does have more sense than a Supreme Court judge.
Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2013 12:25 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: CarolT at April 27, 2013 12:25 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 12:26 PM (9Bj8R)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 12:26 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 27, 2013 12:26 PM (HQX6o)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 12:27 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2013 12:28 PM (INYkK)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 12:28 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2013 04:25
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Is this something you pedal, or with an engine?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 27, 2013 12:28 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 27, 2013 12:29 PM (HQX6o)
Posted by: I farted, killed my planet. at April 27, 2013 12:29 PM (i7B17)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 27, 2013 12:31 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2013 12:31 PM (INYkK)
“A Fukushima-like accident is impossible at Iter because the fusion reaction is fundamentally safe. Any disturbance from ideal conditions and the reaction will stop. A runaway nuclear reaction and a core meltdown are simply not possible."
Posted by: famous last words at April 27, 2013 12:34 PM (a2eOd)
Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at April 27, 2013 12:35 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 27, 2013 12:36 PM (HQX6o)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 27, 2013 12:37 PM (HQX6o)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 12:38 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 12:38 PM (3Aqe5)
"The new logo for the University of ConnecticutÂ’s sports teams is a terrifying husky dog that calls to mind images of sexual assault, says one student."
it's from the Daily Caller: http://tinyurl.com/bpt3yqg
Posted by: mallfly at April 27, 2013 12:38 PM (bJm7W)
heh, one of my all-time faves . . . kind of a theme song for me, actually, lol
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 12:39 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 12:39 PM (/v7wy)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 12:40 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 12:40 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 12:42 PM (8lmkt)
terrifying husky dog that calls to mind images of sexual assault, says
one student."
That was him!!
**sob**
That was him.
Posted by: Ashley Juddd at April 27, 2013 12:43 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 04:42 PM (8lmkt)
Go on...
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 12:43 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: mallfly at April 27, 2013 12:44 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 12:45 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Bufalobob at April 27, 2013 12:45 PM (bxn1D)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 27, 2013 12:45 PM (HQX6o)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 27, 2013 12:46 PM (MBqvE)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 12:47 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 12:47 PM (qyfb5)
Tattoo, keel haul the insolent commenter.
Posted by: Ricardo Montalban at April 27, 2013 12:47 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 12:49 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 12:50 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Beauty School Dropout at April 27, 2013 12:51 PM (I88Jc)
Posted by: real joe at April 27, 2013 12:52 PM (PD2ad)
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 27, 2013 12:53 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Up with people! at April 27, 2013 12:54 PM (FmFB3)
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 12:54 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Peaches
The IN N OUT in the parking lot doesn't help either.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 27, 2013 12:56 PM (Yr6sH)
Posted by: L, elle at April 27, 2013 12:56 PM (0PiQ4)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 27, 2013 12:56 PM (52n2x)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 12:56 PM (qyfb5)
Breach means P decreases...dramatically...to atmospheric. Decrease in P forces decrease in T.
Decrease T, fusiony shit longer fusiony. Reaction stopeth.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 27, 2013 12:57 PM (GJtYt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 12:58 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 27, 2013 04:56 PM (Yr6sH)
YES!!! The In'N'Out, the Starbucks, the world's biggest Albertson's (very nice store, no one ever shops there because, hey, look, a Costco!!), a bank, a pet store, I think there might be a fuckin' Subway. Some oil change place, the Costco gas station-slash-unbelievable clusterfuck. Absolutely priceless, it is. You shop there, too? I didn't know you were in my geographic area.
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 12:58 PM (8lmkt)
#YouJustPulledAnObama
Much Proggy butthurt
that is a beautiful thing and just made my day, weft. some years ago (y'all know exactly when), I tried to coin the phrase "I baracked it all up" but it didn't catch on.
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 01:01 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 01:02 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 01:02 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 01:04 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Heftyjo at April 27, 2013 01:04 PM (v/xMA)
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 27, 2013 01:04 PM (GJtYt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 01:06 PM (piMMO)
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Went to Costco earlier. Totally wanted to kill people. Not in an angry way, just as sort of a public service.
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 04:42 PM (8lmkt)
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I hate shopping, Peaches...for this very reason.
Sometimes, as a stress reliever, I just 'pinch their heads'.
You know...look at them between my finger and thumb, and pinch their heads.
So then, they're like dead to me. With their heads pinched.
Posted by: wheatie at April 27, 2013 01:06 PM (3B3wv)
Posted by: Peaches
Building Rome wasn't coined in one day! We'll have to slip it in other twitter threads.
"Ok, who baracked up the MickeyD's turlet?"
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 27, 2013 01:06 PM (Yr6sH)
#Russia had wiretap on #Boston Marathon #bombing suspect, US officials say
http://fxn.ws/15PRatm
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 05:02 PM (piMMO)
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Wow. Obama and Holder don't give a damn about keeping America safe, Period.
Posted by: Craig Poe at April 27, 2013 01:07 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Stepan DiGasse at April 27, 2013 04:04 PM (73IHh)
I feel your pain.
Posted by: Der Schlickmeister at April 27, 2013 01:07 PM (Cs2tJ)
You gotta go big with it to get breakeven+, so all the smallish research reactors were necessarily going to be sub-breakeven.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 27, 2013 01:09 PM (GJtYt)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at April 27, 2013 01:09 PM (hcNX8)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 01:10 PM (qyfb5)
Yes . . . and those people on Walnut are so boned. I lived over on Penmar and worked at the mall over on Maxella years ago, when that was just a humongous dirt lot. Took me about 3 minutes to get to work. Once the ol' Costco came in, suddenly it was more like a 15 minute, one-mile commute. I hate LA. I really, really do.
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 01:11 PM (8lmkt)
This is why I go to WMT at 2am...fewer people to annoy me and less people trying to kill me on the roads.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 27, 2013 01:11 PM (GJtYt)
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 01:13 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 01:15 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 27, 2013 01:15 PM (dqux0)
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense at.... at April 27, 2013 01:15 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 27, 2013 01:17 PM (52n2x)
Posted by: Avenging Disco Godfather at April 27, 2013 01:17 PM (Y5jU5)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 27, 2013 01:18 PM (dqux0)
Annihilation only works on a starship in the mythical "Federation" future, where somehow we can make "anti-matter" and fuel spaceships with it.
Anti- matter does exist, in particle accelerators for a few thousandths of a second.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense at.... at April 27, 2013 01:19 PM (Md8Uo)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 01:20 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 01:21 PM (qyfb5)
Breach means P decreases...dramatically...to atmospheric. Decrease in P forces decrease in T.
Decrease T, fusiony shit longer fusiony. Reaction stopeth.
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Lol wow. You took that way too seriously.
Any time someone says "trust me, there's no way anything could EVER go wrong" you should take a few seconds to rethink whatever it is they are talking you into.
That is all.
Posted by: ElKomandante at April 27, 2013 01:22 PM (a2eOd)
Posted by: waldo at April 27, 2013 01:22 PM (y2XjR)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 27, 2013 01:22 PM (dqux0)
Posted by: Staff at April 27, 2013 01:22 PM (G9qZk)
Posted by: RWC at April 27, 2013 01:24 PM (Wl/Ht)
Posted by: Model-1066 at April 27, 2013 01:24 PM (b0ZRC)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 01:24 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 27, 2013 01:25 PM (dqux0)
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 27, 2013 01:26 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Snake Oil Baron at April 27, 2013 01:26 PM (Aj46N)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 01:26 PM (qyfb5)
You don't have a flamethrower? Yip, that also works well on ants.
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 01:27 PM (8lmkt)
Well, Boron is pretty common...its laying all over the ground out in the south west.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 27, 2013 01:28 PM (GJtYt)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 01:28 PM (/jHWN)
*****
Thermonuclear fusion
From orbit.
Posted by: Ellen Ripley at April 27, 2013 01:29 PM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 27, 2013 01:30 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Michael Valentine Smith at April 27, 2013 01:30 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 27, 2013 01:31 PM (fNpC1)
395 damn ants, that's what. little bitty ones... they're like fighting libtards.
Ant Bait.
It works good, Yip.
I had a horrible ant infestation going on...they kept coming back, till I tossed a bunch of Ant Bait things around.
Now, if we could just come up with Lib Bait that would work the same way.
Posted by: wheatie at April 27, 2013 01:31 PM (3B3wv)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 01:31 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: RWC at April 27, 2013 01:32 PM (Wl/Ht)
Posted by: Fluorine-18 at April 27, 2013 01:33 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 01:33 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: real joe at April 27, 2013 01:33 PM (PD2ad)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 01:34 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: RWC at April 27, 2013 01:34 PM (Wl/Ht)
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 27, 2013 01:34 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 27, 2013 01:35 PM (52n2x)
Posted by: LindaFell at April 27, 2013 01:36 PM (PGO8C)
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 27, 2013 01:37 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: LindaFell at April 27, 2013 05:36 PM (PGO8C)
THIS
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 01:38 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at April 27, 2013 01:39 PM (MhA4j)
I for one would think it would be great; but the abuse of energy would be astounding if it were... free.
Posted by: RiverC at April 27, 2013 01:40 PM (KTytI)
Yip...
You might have an infestation of 'Crazy Ants'.
They're a new species of tiny black ants, that came into the country at Houston...about 7 years ago.
They're also called...Crazy Raspberry Ants.
[named after a guy named Raspberry, who first started fighting them]
My infestation came from a load of firewood, from southern Oklahoma.
That was several years ago.
Crazy Ants are resistant to normal Ant-killer methods.
But Ant Bait worked on the little fuckers.
Posted by: wheatie at April 27, 2013 01:40 PM (3B3wv)
Even if its a net loser, it looks like a prolific creator of Helium. That alone could make it worth continuing with as a Helium fab technology.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 27, 2013 01:41 PM (GJtYt)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 01:42 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 27, 2013 01:44 PM (fNpC1)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 01:45 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 01:45 PM (piMMO)
I got a little bottle of some liquid that's Boron based and mixed with sugar that they party on. Put a few drops down on a sill and they queue up to snack on that shit.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 27, 2013 01:45 PM (GJtYt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 01:45 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: LindaFell at April 27, 2013 01:46 PM (PGO8C)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 01:47 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville, maintaining a simulacrum of normality at April 27, 2013 01:48 PM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 01:48 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 01:48 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 01:49 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 27, 2013 05:48 PM (OWjjx)
oh, cripes, that reminds me, I have to pour some liquid plumber down the bathtub. bless your heart, Mallamutt!
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 01:50 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Bill H at April 27, 2013 01:51 PM (3sZO1)
Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville, maintaining a simulacrum of normality at April 27, 2013 01:51 PM (Dll6b)
It makes an awesome wasp/bee killer that doesn't leave any oily residue too. Hit wasps with that shit and they go down a lot faster than with commercial wasp bombs
And you can clean oily/greasy shit with it too.
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 27, 2013 01:51 PM (GJtYt)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 27, 2013 01:52 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: @PurpAv at April 27, 2013 01:53 PM (GJtYt)
Posted by: Bill H at April 27, 2013 01:53 PM (3sZO1)
and good afternoon
Good afternoon i say!
ok not so great but here we are in all our ...nevermind.
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2013 01:56 PM (nqBYe)
I feel roughly akin to how the leader of the tribe must have felt bringing back a mastodon.
Also, there's a freaking bee in the apartment so I shall be putting some of the above suggestions to use imminently.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at April 27, 2013 01:58 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: BignJames at April 27, 2013 01:58 PM (H9MGI)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 01:58 PM (LL42r)
I'm remodeling my house and finally broke down and hired a pest guy to spray. They killed the carpenter ants ( found three nests) like I never could and he told me about these little crazy-ass ants when I noticed them on the brick outside.. He said both were worse than normal in the DFW the last year and expected to be a problem again this year.
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 01:59 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Andrew at April 27, 2013 02:00 PM (HS3dy)
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2013 02:00 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 02:02 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Eaton Cox at April 27, 2013 02:02 PM (q177U)
which won't happen anyway.
Posted by: willow at April 27, 2013 02:03 PM (nqBYe)
453 ....Keurig brewer successfully purchased.
That's the model I have, AtC.
Love it.
Did you get a re-usable K-cup? ...Those are good. You can use your own coffee, and save money.
I've learned that I can 'trick' it into filling a bigger mug, by letting it go ahead and get ready to brew another cup...then turn it off...and let it go through that again.
Posted by: wheatie at April 27, 2013 02:03 PM (3B3wv)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 02:03 PM (hNqVf)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 27, 2013 02:04 PM (+z4pE)
Posted by: RWC at April 27, 2013 02:04 PM (Wl/Ht)
When Clarence Thomas Wrote To George Jones
http://tinyurl.com/cfcrxgt
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 27, 2013 02:04 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Beagle at April 27, 2013 02:04 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 02:05 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2013 02:06 PM (9Bj8R)
I have not yet gotten the reusable K-cup because I'm going to use this mainly for tea and cider and hot chocolate. I might end up taking it in to work that way we can make coffee for clients and the like without having to brew a whole pot. There's only one person in the office who drinks coffee right now and he just brings his own.
New toys ftw!
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at April 27, 2013 02:07 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 02:07 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 27, 2013 02:07 PM (jucos)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at April 27, 2013 05:58 PM (Gk3SS)
I don't know if your model does this but mine does....you can slip out that bottom piece and get a travel mug in there.
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 27, 2013 02:07 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Beagle at April 27, 2013 02:08 PM (sOtz/)
http://tinyurl.com/cfcrxgt
Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2013 06:04 PM (X6akg)
very cool . . . so sweet!
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 02:08 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 02:08 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 02:08 PM (/jHWN)
this is for you
http://tinyurl.com/btvfona
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2013 06:04 PM (BBWjt)
Ohhhh those are faboo.
I don't know if your model does this but mine does....you can slip out that bottom piece and get a travel mug in there.
Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2013 06:07 PM (X6akg)
Oh man. I have one of the nice Contigo spill proof travel mugs that I use at work right now so as to make sure I don't get tea all over documents. I was resigned to having to either not use or it dump the tea from a cup into the mug. Then I noticed today that there was a display of travel mugs that said they would fit with the Keurigs. I was staring at them and pondering how those looked like the same size as mine but there was no way it would fit. It wasn't until I was fiddling with trying to fit one under a display unit that I realized that the bottom piece comes out. Yeah. I'm a rocket surgeon.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at April 27, 2013 02:12 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 02:13 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 27, 2013 02:14 PM (jucos)
Their thyroids are fine with no discernible health effects and the "body burdens" - the amount of radioactive cesium entrained in their bodies - are WAY below predictions.
The anti-nukes are trying hard to get American reactors to add filtered vents at a cost of about $25 to $50 million a reactor, mostly to reduce the cesium. The latest Japanese data shows that this would be a huge waste of money.
For the anti-nuclear crowd, a "huge waste of money" is a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: whitehall at April 27, 2013 02:14 PM (1+mGd)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 27, 2013 02:14 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 74% more DOOM! at April 27, 2013 02:16 PM (52n2x)
Posted by: Eaton Cox at April 27, 2013 06:02 PM (q177U)
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I think we should all get a turn at least once in our lives, eh? What would your thread be about, Eaton?
Posted by: mama winger at April 27, 2013 02:18 PM (P6QsQ)
Whitehall, do you have a link for that info? Or even just point me in the right direction? Got some work stuff right now that this would be really pertinent to. Thanks!
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 02:18 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Beagle at April 27, 2013 02:19 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: CarolT at April 27, 2013 02:19 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at April 27, 2013 06:12 PM (Gk3SS)
At least YOU figured it out in the store.....
My current favorite K-cup, Cafe Escapes - Cafe Mocha. I could bathe in that stuff.
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 27, 2013 02:19 PM (X6akg)
489...I did not because I might drink one cup of coffee and then follow-up with a cup of decaf or an English tea.
But you can load the re-usable K-cup with whatever you want, NDH.
Loose tea...or empty a couple of tea bags into it...or, whatever coffees you like.
I like to mix decaf + reg. coffee, to cut down on the caffeine level later in the day.
Posted by: wheatie at April 27, 2013 02:21 PM (3B3wv)
US officials say Russian wiretap caught suspicious call between Boston bomb suspect, mom.....
http://tinyurl.com/c677nxo
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 27, 2013 02:22 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 02:23 PM (ZCAlb)
Posted by: mama winger at April 27, 2013 02:24 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at April 27, 2013 02:30 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 02:30 PM (jlW3q)
Posted by: CarolT at April 27, 2013 02:31 PM (z4WKX)
491man, we could use some more helium too
we're starting to run out
Gonna need barrage balloons as counter measures against those drones,
Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 27, 2013 02:31 PM (xA8Em)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 27, 2013 02:34 PM (jlW3q)
since 2005
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Ahh ..... your voice sometimes reminds me of a poster over there from long ago. Be glad that you were never tainted.
Posted by: mama winger at April 27, 2013 02:37 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 02:37 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: CarolT at April 27, 2013 02:37 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Eaton Cox at April 27, 2013 02:39 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 02:41 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2013 02:42 PM (BBWjt)
Posted by: Peaches at April 27, 2013 02:43 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Agent K at April 27, 2013 02:43 PM (qPCAa)
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Indeed we are.
Posted by: mama winger at April 27, 2013 02:43 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 27, 2013 02:45 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 02:46 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: CarolT at April 27, 2013 02:46 PM (z4WKX)
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Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 02:48 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: mama winger at April 27, 2013 02:48 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 02:48 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 27, 2013 02:49 PM (jucos)
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Posted by: Lauren at April 27, 2013 02:51 PM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 02:51 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 27, 2013 02:51 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 27, 2013 02:51 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Yip at April 27, 2013 02:52 PM (/jHWN)
Posted by: lincolntf at April 27, 2013 02:52 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 27, 2013 06:51 PM (jucos)
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I did get an invitation a couple of years ago, and dropped in for a week or so, but it just never clicked with me. I really only post at Ace now.
Posted by: mama winger at April 27, 2013 02:55 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 27, 2013 02:57 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 27, 2013 02:58 PM (jucos)
Posted by: CarolT at April 27, 2013 03:01 PM (z4WKX)
If you read between the lines you can see that this was set up as a boondoggle from the get go.
The largest nations supplying practically unlimited funding without any economic consequences for failure.
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