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April 29, 2013

"The Narrative" Is the Enemy of Truth and Fact
— Ace

Interesting piece by Richard Fernandez, which I think is a little bit hinky in some of the connections it makes, but still makes some great points.

You can read the short version at Instapundit.

Despite an abundance of suggestive information, the FBI seemed singularly unable to see Tsarnaev as a threat. Part of the reason, according to the Washington Examiner, was that blindness was engineered into the system. The agents were trained not to see it.

It is quite possible, though, the FBI agents who interviewed Tsarnaev on both occasions failed to understand what they saw and heard because thatÂ’s what they were trained to do. As The Washington ExaminerÂ’s Mark Flatten reported last year, FBI training manuals were systematically purged in 2011 of all references to Islam that were judged offensive by a specially created five-member panel. Three of the panel members were Muslim advocates from outside the FBI, which still refuses to make public their identities. Nearly 900 pages were removed from the manuals as a result of that review. Several congressmen were allowed to review the removed materials in 2012, on condition that they not disclose what they read to their staffs, the media, or the general public.
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But to really learn you have to be prepared to listen to what you donÂ’t want to hear. The future only contains new information if it tells you something you donÂ’t know. But bureaucracies want to make all new knowledge predictable, consistent with the existing narrative. And homogenization destroys information.

I'll direct you to the article itself to read about his likening of the preordained conclusions of corporate-like institutions, where conclusions are foreordained and all "truth" must be reached by focus-group analysis and a consensus of various heads of department, to a two-headed coin. A coin where every flip yields "heads" as a result. Making it useless as far as resolving issues.

He continues:

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What creates sameness is ideology. Ideology by definition reduces the range of responses to situations and limits the ways in which we can decode and encode messages to politically correct outcomes.

The model eventually becomes robust enough to reject information that doesn't fit the model, and ultimately there is no new information, just further reiterations of the model's one permitted outcome.

There's more there, including some kind of computer program which actually seems to be artificially intelligent, or at least possessing one of the central (if not the central) element of true intelligence, self-motivation, self-assignment of personally-chosen goals.

I think there's a lot of stuff here to chew over.

Posted by: Ace at 11:31 AM | Comments (209)
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1 Yeah, but Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house. QED, bitchez.

Posted by: Jaws at April 29, 2013 11:48 AM (4I3Uo)

2 People suck.

Posted by: Professor eleven E.P. (expert professor) at April 29, 2013 11:48 AM (KXm42)

3 Clyde Tolson is turning over in my grave.

Posted by: J. Edgar Hoover at April 29, 2013 11:48 AM (rSiEP)

4 Hope no one is waiting for the left to say, "Gee, you have a point"

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 29, 2013 11:48 AM (RA9t4)

5 He did it to solve global warming.

Posted by: fluffy at April 29, 2013 11:49 AM (z9HTb)

6 I bet the Romans purged all mention of the Barbarians because some jack ass in Rome decided it would be improper to paint them as well Barbarians?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2013 11:49 AM (9Bj8R)

7 In other words, systems theory, and the failure thereof.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2013 11:50 AM (TOk1P)

8 sooner or later Charles Moose version 2.whatever will make the leap to construct evidence to make the narrative reality...

Posted by: sven10077@sven10077 at April 29, 2013 11:50 AM (LRFds)

"The Narrative" Is the Enemy of Truth and Fact

It's also the enemy of national security, Ace.

They're more concerned with 'the narrative' than with keeping us safe.

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 11:50 AM (3B3wv)

10 "As The Washington ExaminerÂ’s Mark Flatten reported last year, FBI training manuals were systematically purged in 2011 of all references to Islam that were judged offensive by a specially created five-member panel. Three of the panel members were Muslim advocates from outside the FBI, which still refuses to make public their identities. Nearly 900 pages were removed from the manuals as a result of that review. Several congressmen were allowed to review the removed materials in 2012, on condition that they not disclose what they read to their staffs, the media, or the general public."

Wait...wha? I'm.....they.....W.T.F?!

We are our own worst enemy.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 29, 2013 11:51 AM (X6akg)

11 It is quite possible, though, the FBI agents who interviewed Tsarnaev on both occasions failed to understand what they saw and heard because thatÂ’s what they were trained to do. As The Washington ExaminerÂ’s Mark Flatten reported last year, FBI training manuals were systematically purged in 2011 of all references to Islam that were judged offensive by a specially created five-member panel. Three of the panel members were Muslim advocates from outside the FBI, which still refuses to make public their identities. Nearly 900 pages were removed from the manuals as a result of that review. Several congressmen were allowed to review the removed materials in 2012, on condition that they not disclose what they read to their staffs, the media, or the general public. ************* However, the media and Obama Administration are already in motion to make Robert Mueller take the wrap for it.

Posted by: tasker at April 29, 2013 11:51 AM (r2PLg)

12 the leftists have infiltrated every fed gov agency when we weren't paying attention

Posted by: L, elle at April 29, 2013 11:51 AM (0PiQ4)

13 What DIFFERENCE does it make why these two guys were not flagged by the system?

Posted by: Hillary in Heat at April 29, 2013 11:52 AM (DrC22)

14 It's pretty disturbing they purged all the references to Islam in 2011. But what was the excuse in 2001, when no one at FBI was willing to connect the dots that John O'Neill had established? He had identified the 19 who would ultimately take down the towers. He didn't know what their ultimate plan was, but he drew conclusions from their patterns of activity.

Posted by: kallisto at April 29, 2013 11:52 AM (jm/9g)

15 The manual over rides the use and implementation of common sense?
Hard to fathom.
You mean there might be FBI agents actually smacking their foreheads saying, " I shoulda' thought of that?"

Posted by: Nick Shaw at April 29, 2013 11:52 AM (9Y452)

16 Â“Here we see Entropica chatting up the PentagonÂ’s nuclear response super-computer.Â”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 29, 2013 11:52 AM (QF8uk)

17 Wretchard has been one of the best writers on teh interwebz for a long time. He rarely disappoints anyone looking for a well-reasoned read...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 29, 2013 11:53 AM (wtvvX)

18 Oriental proverb - the nail that sticks up gets hammered down.

Saying something ends careers instantly with probability "1". Not saying it, makes it a coin flip.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 29, 2013 11:53 AM (/gHaE)

19 So, will anything change or will these failed policies continue unabated? Don't answer that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2013 11:54 AM (piMMO)

This country is in serious trouble when officials (some on the right) bitched about the Russians not supplying us with further information after they alerted us that Tsarnaev may have been radicalized.

The Russians didn't need to say anything. They were doing us a favor by even mentioning anything about this guy. To have people of importance in our government complaining in public that the Russians didn't do enough is just what is needed to insure that other governments stay the fuck out of any future incidents.

Typical fucking idiots. How has this country survived this long?

Posted by: jwest at April 29, 2013 11:54 AM (u2a4R)

21 FBI training manuals were systematically purged in 2011 of all references to Islam that were judged offensive by a specially created five-member panel Yes, of the panel, Mohammed had issues, as did Ahmad, while Abdul and Munib were on the fence, but Samir fought hard for all references to be stricken.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 29, 2013 11:54 AM (feFL6)

22 11 We are our own worst enemy. Posted by: Tami at April 29, 2013 03:51 PM (X6akg) Not "we", Tami. Those orders had to come from somewhere, probably from the top. Whoever gave those orders is the enemy.

Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2013 11:54 AM (zoehZ)

Call me crazy, but doesn't the FBI work for the federal governemt? Which means, they're subject to Congressional oversight?

How can they "allow" Congress to see what they are up to, on the condition that Congress not release the info to the public?

This is insane.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2013 11:54 AM (TOk1P)

24 Richard Fernandez is awesome. His logic is always sound, and his writing style is exceptionally readable. He shares that trait with Gerard Vanderleun. Simply excellent.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 29, 2013 11:54 AM (bb5+k)

25 People suck. For a twinkie?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2013 11:54 AM (GFM2b)

26 I blame Spencer Ackerman. I have posted it before, but in September 2011 he crowed in his Danger Room column that he had forced - through his reporting - the FBI to remove anti-Muslim material from their training. This is EXACTLY what Fernandez means with this bit: FBI training manuals were systematically purged in 2011 of all references to Islam that were judged offensive by a specially created five-member panel Ackerman wrote: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/02/hundreds-fbi-documents-muslims/ The bureau disclosed initial findings from its months-long review during a meeting at FBI headquarters on Wednesday with several Arab and Muslim advocacy groups, attended by Director Robert Mueller. So far, the inquiry has uncovered and purged over 700 pages of documentation from approximately 300 presentations given to agents since 9/11 Â— some of which were similar to briefings published by Danger Room last year describing Â“mainstreamÂ” Muslims as Â“violent.Â” Actually, that article is an update - he has a longer one. Thing is - Ackerman took pride in making this happen. He says that the training material made the FBI focus on Muslims and Muslim institutions. By changing this focus in training, it changes the actions. Note, Joker's bro and his mom went on CIA watch list OCTOBER 2011. But the FBI, whipped in September 2011, missed it. Which is all fine and dandy, except the FBI can operate in the US, the CIA cannot.

Posted by: blaster at April 29, 2013 11:55 AM (pZDxu)

27 Three of the panel members were Muslim advocates from outside the FBI, which still refuses to make public their identities. Nearly 900 pages were removed from the manuals as a result of that review. Several congressmen were allowed to review the removed materials in 2012, on condition that they not disclose what they read to their staffs, the media, or the general public. Of course we can't know, we're just pathetic children, not citizens for whom politicians work. A few years back, PA passed a new government openness and transparency law that was ballyhooed for bringing sunshine on the workings of government and blah blah blah. Unfortunately, my job at the time required me to read and comprehend the damn thing. You will be shocked, shocked to hear that rather than expanding access to information, information was now behind even higher barriers and that the FOIA process was made quite burdensome indeed. But hey. Openness and Transparency! It says it right there in the name of the law! Explain to me again how it is that I'm not a subject rather than a citizen? I seem to have forgotten.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at April 29, 2013 11:55 AM (VtjlW)

28 Sorry, threw up a little in my mouth. Better now. Will go back and finishing reading rest of the post.

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 29, 2013 11:55 AM (EWBzI)

29 We could vend out national security to the FSB and save a ton of money. They'll work a lot cheaper than the FBI.

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 29, 2013 11:55 AM (/gHaE)

30 Wretchard has been one of the best writers on teh interwebz for a long time. He rarely disappoints anyone looking for a well-reasoned read... Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 29, 2013 03:53 PM (wtvvX) I second this perspective.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 29, 2013 11:55 AM (bb5+k)

31 So we have an FBI that is chock full automatons that can't think beyond what their textbook training tells them to think.

Great....good to know.

//

Posted by: dananjcon at April 29, 2013 11:56 AM (jvd3N)

32 They must have adopted the model used by the 'climatologists'

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2013 11:56 AM (aDwsi)

33 -I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

-Now, look, I get it. These days, I look in the mirror and I have to admit, IÂ’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be. Time passes. You get a little gray

Hussein O

Posted by: Comrade J at April 29, 2013 11:56 AM (Cq/0w)

34 Even the japs in ww2 knew to yell "Babe Ruth Sucks" . They knew who the enemy were. And personally i think most of the japs must have come from Boston.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2013 11:57 AM (9Bj8R)

35 It's like a grotesque parody, except nobody is laughing, just dying.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 29, 2013 11:57 AM (qyfb5)

36 get me drunk and then ask me what I really think

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2013 11:58 AM (9Bj8R)

37 Top. Men.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 29, 2013 11:58 AM (+z4pE)

38 This heroin is awesome!

Posted by: Heroin Sheik at April 29, 2013 11:59 AM (i7B17)

39 Hanlon's Razor is being sharpened by political corrections and to quote Thomas Sowell " For the last 30 years we have replaced what works with sounds good(fair)."

Posted by: DrDrill at April 29, 2013 11:59 AM (sOFZs)

It isn't just the FBI where this is happening. All agencies connected to national security must abide by the new "statethink". This includes the military as well.

AND, according to "statethink", guess who the actual terrorists are.

Why do you think this regime is getting rid of patriotic American officers in the military. It's all the same thing.

Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2013 11:59 AM (WWZL7)

41 US-Backed Syrian Rebels Kill 20 Shia Men, Offer To Give Headless Bodies Back To Families For A RansomÂ… Our lovely allies. Hey is this in the Navy Manuel?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2013 11:59 AM (9Bj8R)

42 So we have an FBI that is chock full automatons that can't think beyond what their textbook training tells them to think. Great....good to know. // Posted by: dananjcon at April 29, 2013 03:56 PM (jvd3N) PA summed up above - say something and your career ends. Don't and it will likely continue. Hell, look at the ATF and the F&F whistleblowers. Lesson given, lesson received.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at April 29, 2013 12:00 PM (VtjlW)

43 Give Karzai tens of millions of dollars in bribes and track the results with bread crumbs. It's the government way.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at April 29, 2013 12:00 PM (0It32)

44 Here is Ackerman's other column: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/09/fbi-muslims-radical/ Oh, Spencer Ackerman? Journolist. Let's throw some rightwingers through a plate glass window Spencer Ackerman.

Posted by: blaster at April 29, 2013 12:00 PM (pZDxu)

45 No 34 the FBI can think . About their careers ,bills , car payments , braces for the kids .....

Posted by: DrDrill at April 29, 2013 12:01 PM (sOFZs)

46 These are not the droids we're looking for.

Posted by: Special Stormtrooper Johnson at April 29, 2013 12:01 PM (i7B17)

47 Why do you think this regime is getting rid of patriotic American officers in the military. It's all the same thing. Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2013 03:59 PM (WWZL7) Well if it is any consolation, the US Navy Dental Corps is infected with hard core right wingers! Psss.. but you didn't hear that from me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2013 12:01 PM (9Bj8R)

I bet the Romans purged all mention of the Barbarians because some jack ass in Rome decided it would be improper to paint them as well Barbarians?

Nope. Though you could point to the ideology of romanitas versus barbarism as the reason why the Romans were unable to respond adequately to changes within German society from the middle of the third century onward, or realize that the Germans were manupulating the Romans for their own ends as much as the Romans were manipulating the barbarians.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 29, 2013 12:01 PM (D/fQ0)

More evidence that we're truly fucked

Posted by: fastfreefall at April 29, 2013 12:01 PM (MPEti)

50 Boston Blood on Spencer Ackerman's hands.

Posted by: blaster at April 29, 2013 12:01 PM (pZDxu)

51 Hell, look at the ATF and the F&F whistleblowers. Lesson given, lesson received. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at April 29, 2013 04:00 PM (VtjlW) I love you because you remind me of how far uphill we have to go just to get to "sane." This is an example of how something can be true and sarcastic at the same time. (sigh)

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 29, 2013 12:02 PM (qyfb5)

I dunno...one of the networks commented that the FBI knew who these guys were on Tuesday and one assumes they released the pics when something spooked them. If true, Tuesday seems like pretty damn fast police work unless the fuckheads were on a pretty short list, one that existed because the FBI may understand both the climate they operate in and what a real threat actually is. We would have to believe the FBI created such an extreme amount of groupthink it overwhelmed members assigned to the JTTF. I am no where near "on the job" but I think anyone tasked there from the NYPD would disabuse them of that sort of thinking pretty quick. Is there a narrative? absolutely. Am I absolving the FBI? Absolutely not. But I would look for a "better" explanation. Like reducing career risk. Which if true, and we have no evidence of that, is damning in itself

Posted by: Mac at April 29, 2013 12:02 PM (0J18b)

53 Layers of management filtering.

agent: holy crap, this dude is nuts and serious.

supervisory agent: dude seems agitated, but mostly benign

deputy deputy director: dude is calm and completely benign

deputy director: dude is upbeat and content

director: dude is seems rather patriotic

Eric Holder: hiring this guy would be a good catch

Obama: make it happen

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 29, 2013 12:03 PM (/gHaE)

54 To have people of importance in our government complaining in public that the Russians didn't do enough ************* That is pretty damn pathetic. It goes to the culture of The Left--they and their voters are never responsible, and perpetually make excuses. It is all Dad's er, some republican's fault. they are having a little trouble coming up with a Republican this time--but they are going to land on Mueller--bank on it. The laser is beginning to be focused on him.

Posted by: tasker at April 29, 2013 12:03 PM (r2PLg)

55 55 Catching them AFTER they commit an attack is all well and good but not the ideal.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 12:04 PM (9XBK2)

56 Oh, Spencer Ackerman? Journolist. Let's throw some rightwingers through a plate glass window Spencer Ackerman. Posted by: blaster at April 29, 2013 04:00 PM (pZDxu) MFM delenda est. Because Journolist.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 29, 2013 12:04 PM (qyfb5)

I suppose this ties in with the fact that we've never really gone into any kind of war in my lifetime with the intent to win, as we did in WWII. When you kill enough of the other guys, they sorta tend to get just a bit demoralized.

Since we're not going to punish our enemies in any way (instead, we invite them here, see Bomba Mama, Crazy-Assed), we'd better steel ourselves that we're going to be seeing more and more Bostons in our future. And our "leaders" will keep insisting that islam is a peaceful religion.

We are so terribly screwed.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 29, 2013 12:04 PM (+z4pE)

58 Michelle Malkin on FNC. Looks like she's been out tanning......in a very small string bikini. Just my thoughts.

Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2013 12:04 PM (WWZL7)

We should call this what it *is*....it's Censorship.

It is censorship that is getting people killed.

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 12:04 PM (3B3wv)

60 Can we call for a do-over? I mean from 1788 or thereabouts?

Posted by: filbert at April 29, 2013 12:05 PM (7vimm)

61
Greetings, fellow citizens. It is time for your afternoon update.

-- The stock market is up again today. Your retirement is more secure today than it was yesterday, or four years ago.

-- Syria is using chemical weapons

-- Gay is good

-- Don't be a bully

Posted by: the government's loud speaker on the corner at April 29, 2013 12:05 PM (ZgBZU)

62 FBI training manuals were systematically purged in 2011 of all references to Islam that were judged offensive by a specially created five-member panel. Three of the panel members were Muslim advocates from outside the FBI, which still refuses to make public their identities.
*
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So this is like looking for a potentially deadly problem in an auto engine with a bunch of mechanics who have been taught that the problem doesn't exist -- taught by a panel staffed with people who stand to profit by the potentially deadly problem (or who created it in the first place). Got it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius (just back from We Made It) at April 29, 2013 12:05 PM (BDU/a)

63 We knew the election of Obama(and worse,his RE -election) were damaging to the country.The cabal of left wingers and whackos he brought in will leave us damaged for years to come.Decades probably.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 12:05 PM (9XBK2)

64 I'm BACK!!!

And I'm quite sure none of you noticed I was gone......

Posted by: © Sponge at April 29, 2013 12:06 PM (xmcEQ)

65 Welcome to the age of network television crime investigation. I gues the FBI's DVR is full of CSI's and Criminal Mind episodes.

Let me know when they properly profile the suspected un-sub.

Posted by: dananjcon at April 29, 2013 12:06 PM (jvd3N)

66 Look, the Left should be made to pay for Boston. They were all about the Boston thing being tea party, and no, that isn't what it was. Now they want us to avert our eyes to the cause. Oh, says Huffpo, maybe they are just douchebags. Like Jersey Shore is rampant with terrorism or something. No, they willfully blinded us to what was coming. Hang that shit around their neck.

Posted by: blaster at April 29, 2013 12:06 PM (pZDxu)

67
A coin where every flip yields "heads" as a result.

I've got one of those.

Posted by: Rosencrantz at April 29, 2013 12:06 PM (TIIx5)

68 Censorship is such an ugly word...we prefer "shaping the truth"

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 29, 2013 12:06 PM (/gHaE)

69 39 get me drunk and then ask me what I really think I'm in.

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 29, 2013 12:06 PM (EWBzI)

70 I've got one of those.

Oooh....nice reference.

Posted by: Professor eleven E.P. (expert professor) at April 29, 2013 12:07 PM (KXm42)

71 I posted this last night in the ONT, and it deserves a repeat here: From Israeli TV: The FBI Investigates the Boston Marathon Bombing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgTmGIXT8ow (hat tip to commenter ziontruth at Neo-Neocon)

Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2013 12:07 PM (zoehZ)

72 Judge Janine's rant on the Jihad Mom....towards the end you'd swear she's going to pop an artery.

http://tinyurl.com/dxvv3fz

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 29, 2013 12:08 PM (X6akg)

73 Not only expunging any link between islam and terror but forcing them to explore unlikely sources of terror,like christians ,veterans and tea party members etc.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 12:08 PM (9XBK2)

74 So, why can't we just have the double secret probation panel that NO ONE KNOWS about and can profile all these violent fucking muslims that are running freely in the world and stop them BEFORE they kill a bunch of people?

Posted by: © Sponge at April 29, 2013 12:08 PM (xmcEQ)

75 1. Do not hurt humans. 2. Obey humans, unless that conflicts with rule 1. 3. Self-preservation, unless that conflicts with rules 1 or 2. 4. Death to those who say Islam is violent.

Posted by: Zombie Asimov at April 29, 2013 12:08 PM (2wsy0)

76 Unfortunately it means we're all dead.

Posted by: Professor eleven E.P. (expert professor) at April 29, 2013 12:08 PM (KXm42)

77 The evidence of this is out there. The Lefties want it to sound like anyone who says that we willfully blinded ourselves are engaging in conspiracy mongering, like, ooh, the President is a secret Muslim or something. Bullshit. Ackerman was out and proud about doing this. It is recorded on the innertubes forever. Ask him about it now.

Posted by: blaster at April 29, 2013 12:08 PM (pZDxu)

78 I am currently reading "The Finish", by Mark Bowden (author also of 'Blackhawk Down'). It documents the intelligence activities that led to Bin Laden's end. What is astounding, is how reluctant the Clinton administration was to act on intelligence. In 'No Easy Day' the author (still anon., as far as I know), the author reports how under the JEF, operational teams had to begin operating as though they were policemen out to make an arrest.

I will echo what others have said, until, and unless, we can begin to regain honest forthright reporting in the media, without liberal gloss and twist, we are doomed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2013 12:08 PM (aDwsi)

79 For a twinkie?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2013 03:54 PM (GFM2b)

See? It's happening already.

Global Warming-induced BJs.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 29, 2013 12:09 PM (/WLC3)

80 Censorship is such an ugly word...we prefer "shaping the truth" Posted by: @PurpAv at April 29, 2013 04:06 PM (/gHaE) I'm thinking the term "New-Speak" seems appropriate.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 29, 2013 12:10 PM (bb5+k)

81 Typical fucking idiots. How has this country survived this long? It was waiting for you. And now....now that you're here, we're saved!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 29, 2013 12:10 PM (RA9t4)

82 Global Warming-induced BJs.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

we got that going for us.

which is nice

Posted by: Mac at April 29, 2013 12:10 PM (0J18b)

Someone posted a Youtube video this weekend...showing the Israelis making fun of this.

It showed 3 FBI agents trying to figure out 'the motive' for the Boston Bombing.

One of the agents said the word..."muslim"...and a loud buzzer and red lights went off, and the agent was seized and carried away.

It would be funny, if it weren't so true.

I went back and tried to find that video, but couldn't find it.

Perhaps whoever posted it will do it again.

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 12:10 PM (3B3wv)

84 Pot meet kettle.

Posted by: nip at April 29, 2013 12:11 PM (lGVXf)

85 Judge Janine's rant on the Jihad Mom....towards the end you'd swear she's going to pop an artery. *** Her intro rant at the beginning of her show is always good. This one was exceptionally good. I wish they would replay her show on Sundays instead of airing Huckabee several times.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2013 12:11 PM (piMMO)

86 As The Washington ExaminerÂ’s Mark Flatten reported last year, FBI training manuals were systematically purged in 2011 of all references to Islam that were judged offensive by a specially created five-member panel. Three of the panel members were Muslim advocates from outside the FBI, which still refuses to make public their identities.

Grand Mufti Obama: I wouldn't want anyone in the FBI or law enforcement to jump to any conclusions.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 29, 2013 12:11 PM (1Jaio)

87 BTW - the Journolist was revealed as the formalization of "The Narrative." Anyone think those Lefties gave up on coordination after they were exposed before? Hell no, they just got more careful. Had to give blood oaths to be on the list, now. The Narrative is not only the enemy of the truth, it is the enemy of safety. And of us.

Posted by: blaster at April 29, 2013 12:12 PM (pZDxu)

88 74 Ha.We are a fucking joke to the world.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 12:12 PM (9XBK2)

89 "Time passes. You get a little ~~gray~~ gay" FIFY

Posted by: Reggie Love at April 29, 2013 12:12 PM (2wsy0)

BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA...MMMM....MMMMM...MMMMM

1. Missiles fired at Russian passenger jet...

2. Syrian PM survives Damascus bombing, 6 die...

3. Al-Qaeda's battle for control of Assad's chemical weapons plant...

4. European Muslims Join in Jihad...

5. Unrest gripping Iraq...

Posted by: Jason Collins at April 29, 2013 12:12 PM (IkHXL)

91 From Israeli TV: The FBI Investigates the Boston Marathon Bombing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgTmGIXT8ow Oh yeah, that's good.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 29, 2013 12:12 PM (feFL6)

92 I will echo what others have said, until, and unless, we can begin to regain honest forthright reporting in the media, without liberal gloss and twist, we are doomed. Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2013 04:08 PM (aDwsi) And there it is; The summation of the problem.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 29, 2013 12:12 PM (bb5+k)

93 The mistake, see, was not getting these nice boys internships at NASA

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2013 12:12 PM (aDwsi)

94 It's all enough to make you want to buy a (or another) gun.

Posted by: Heralder at April 29, 2013 12:13 PM (+xmn4)

95 preordained conclusions of corporate-like institutions, where conclusions are foreordained ...reminds me of a Sunday School lesson

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 29, 2013 12:13 PM (MhA4j)

96 Ha.We are a fucking joke to the world. Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 04:12 PM (9XBK2) Yep, CNN America must seem like comedy central.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet is no longer shamelessly hawking his book Amy Lynn available on amazon. at April 29, 2013 12:13 PM (XIxXP)

74 I posted this last night in the ONT, and it deserves a repeat here:

From Israeli TV: The FBI Investigates the Boston Marathon Bombing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgTmGIXT8ow

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Thanks, rickl....that's the one I was trying to find.

It's great!

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 12:13 PM (3B3wv)

98
Oooh....nice reference.

Posted by: Professor eleven E.P. (expert professor) at April 29, 2013 04:07 PM (KXm42)

Nice job catching it. Always liked that opening scene.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2013 12:13 PM (TIIx5)

99 Grand Mufti Obama: I wouldn't want anyone in the FBI or law enforcement to jump to any conclusions. ...again, he spoke stupidly.

Posted by: panzernashorn at April 29, 2013 12:14 PM (MhA4j)

100 Not only expunging any link between islam and terror but forcing them to explore unlikely sources of terror,like christians ,veterans and tea party members etc.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 04:08 PM (9XBK2)

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There shall be no words against Dear Leader. Anyone disagreeing with Dear Leader will be suspect. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2013 12:14 PM (WWZL7)

101
Ann is on with Howie again!

tune in now

Posted by: the government's loud speaker on the corner at April 29, 2013 12:14 PM (+oin+)

102 And I'm quite sure none of you noticed I was gone...... Posted by: Â© Sponge Who are you again?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Septembrist at April 29, 2013 12:15 PM (fMiHM)

103 FBI vid + So he likes yoga = wet monitor.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2013 12:15 PM (fWAjv)

104 Just because it sounds like a crazy WorldNetDaily conspiracy, doesn't mean we aren't fucked.

Posted by: wooga at April 29, 2013 12:15 PM (2wsy0)

105 Yes,I remember Dangeroom crowing about their great victory of islamophobia.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 12:16 PM (9XBK2)

106 I love you because you remind me of how far uphill we have to go just to get to "sane." This is an example of how something can be true and sarcastic at the same time. (sigh) Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at April 29, 2013 04:02 PM (qyfb5) Ummm, thanks? Bizarrely, this reminds me of one of the many things I hated about my last job. My main job duties were as research monkey and I cannot tell you how many fights I got into with a boss saying but but but I want to do this and I would say we can't do that, all the precedent is against us, why don't you tell me the desired outcome and I'll figure out how to get there. But no, it was I want to do it this way and we have to do it this way and make that square peg fit into that round hole. Why? Because that was the way things had been handled and that was the way said boss knew how to do it and dammit that's how it would be done. Also, PA's hierarchy of response is dead on.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at April 29, 2013 12:16 PM (VtjlW)

107 Who are you again?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Septembrist at April 29, 2013 04:15 PM (fMiHM)

EXACTLY!!!!

Well played....

Posted by: © Sponge at April 29, 2013 12:16 PM (xmcEQ)

108 It is simple really. Islamism and socialism have joined forces, thus Islam can not be held responsible for anything under this socialist regime. Tea Partiers fight socialist power thus all violence is a result of the enemy and thus seen everywhere. Pointing out how democrats purposely endanger us could be useful if brought up by some group......hmmmmm but who?

Posted by: GardenGnome at April 29, 2013 12:16 PM (7PjX7)

109 106 I like how he says "Goddamnit!" in English than goes back to Hebrew.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 12:17 PM (9XBK2)

110 91 74 Ha.We are a fucking joke to the world.
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Kinda reminds you of the good ol' days under Carter. Iranian hostage rescue, and all that. Then, of course, Carter reduced and altered (drastically) the rules under which the CIA could operate. He was sure people would like us better..., because..., well, just because.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2013 12:17 PM (aDwsi)

111 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at April 29, 2013 04:16 PM (VtjlW)

Heheh
Heheh
Heheh.
I know the feeling.
That's really all I got.

Well that and some ramblings about regulations corrupting logical thought processes (which could probably be expanded to cover government as a whole.)

Posted by: tsrblke (work)[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 29, 2013 12:18 PM (WTxF0)

112 Choom Boy is ~~We are~~ our own worst enemy.
Posted by: Tami at April 29, 2013 03:51 PM

FIFY.

We are totally screwed until the America-hating fatheads in D.C. are removed from their positions of authority. The Muzzies are laughing at us. When they're not bombing us and building more mosques here, that is.

Posted by: MrScribbler at April 29, 2013 12:18 PM (mHrip)

113 So, is jwest running the training manual program for the FBI?

Posted by: maddogg at April 29, 2013 12:19 PM (OlN4e)

114 From Israeli TV: The FBI Investigates the Boston Marathon Bombing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgTmGIXT8ow --------- Thanks, rickl....that's the one I was trying to find. It's great! Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 04:13 PM (3B3wv) And people, THIS is how it's done. You make your message into Entertainment, and THAT carries it to the Brawndo voter. We need conservatives that can do Media Entertainment, preferably comedy. That's how we build a message which can break through the distribution boundary.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 29, 2013 12:19 PM (bb5+k)

115 I made the mistake of starting to watch cable news again-- then they but that bitch--Jihadi Mumsie on my television. Oooh, thanks for reminding me--why I don't watch. Click.

Posted by: tasker at April 29, 2013 12:19 PM (r2PLg)

116 113 Yep,the Dems destroyed our intel community post Vietnam and it has never recovered.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 12:19 PM (9XBK2)

117 Why? Because that was the way things had been handled and that was the way said boss knew how to do it and dammit that's how it would be done. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at April 29, 2013 04:16 PM (VtjlW) It is kind of amazing what humanity has accomplished in the face of being a bunch of crack-addled monkeys, isn't it?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s] at April 29, 2013 12:20 PM (qyfb5)

118

75 Judge Janine's rant on the Jihad Mom....towards the end you'd swear she's going to pop an artery.

http://tinyurl.com/dxvv3fz

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Thanks, Tami. ...I love Judge Janine.

"We should not be required to breathe the same air as you, we should not be required to share the indignity of your presence!"

One of her best rants yet.

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 12:20 PM (3B3wv)

119 "Several congressmen were allowed to review the removed materials in 2012, on condition that they not disclose what they read to their staffs, the media, or the general public."

WTF? WTFF?

Yeah, you can read it, but keep it to yourself? Now how is the reviewer supposed to make analysis/modifications to policy if they cannot refer to that which is not to be discussed in order to establish a foundation to facts and current policy?

Oh, wait... I think I spot the planted fly in the ointment. It's fluttering all about SCoaMF's face.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 29, 2013 12:22 PM (eHIJJ)

120 Kinda reminds you of the good ol' days under Carter. Iranian hostage rescue, and all that. Then, of course, Carter reduced and altered (drastically) the rules under which the CIA could operate. He was sure people would like us better..., because..., well, just because. Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2013 04:17 PM (aDwsi) A Million people died in the war between Iran and Iraq. Had Carter not worked to undermine the Shah, those Million people very likely would not have died. Having a stupid shit in office has real world Blood and Death consequences.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 29, 2013 12:22 PM (bb5+k)

121 May Frank Church rot in his grave

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2013 12:22 PM (9Bj8R)

122 Her intro rant at the beginning of her show is always good. This one was exceptionally good.

I wish they would replay her show on Sundays instead of airing Huckabee several times.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2013 04:11 PM (piMMO)

I agree. She really lays the hammer down.

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 29, 2013 12:22 PM (X6akg)

123 Heh, that vid was great. I was surprised that the Taiwanese folks didn't do that first.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 29, 2013 12:23 PM (+z4pE)

124 Un fucking real. But hey, as long as women get free condoms and the Obamaphone minutes never expire, all's well in the world.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 29, 2013 12:24 PM (HDgX3)

125 Look, Islam gets to set the narrative. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc do not. Did you know that they decide to a very great extent what textbooks and textbook content get to American schools courtesy of the Saudis and their billions?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at April 29, 2013 12:24 PM (kXoT0)

126 119 113 Yep,the Dems destroyed our intel community post Vietnam and it has never recovered. Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 04:19 PM (9XBK2) ************** Hell the media handicapped the military and how we conduct warfare during Vietnam. So America could feel comfortable on their couch watching we started the technology for targeted precision bombing. Now--of course--the media is bitching, about that. Catch-22. Their should be a term for government conducted by journalism proxy. Punditocracy.

Posted by: tasker at April 29, 2013 12:24 PM (r2PLg)

127 I wish they would replay her show on Sundays instead of airing Huckabee several times. >>

AN hour of the Emergency Broadcast system tone would be preferable to airing Huckabee.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 29, 2013 12:25 PM (wrS2o)

128 *there* should be a term... ugh. What is really beautiful is the media is a bit like the terrorists--you can't hold them responsible and vote them out. There is no check on their power.

Posted by: tasker at April 29, 2013 12:25 PM (r2PLg)

129 If we had a son, he would look just like 'Barack Hussien Obama"....MMMMM.......MMMMMM.......MMMMM.

Posted by: Four Horsemen of the Apocolyspe at April 29, 2013 12:26 PM (HlUFk)

130

This is stupidity on a new, hyper-dimensional level. It's like multiplying stupidity by ignorance and then again by political correction.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at April 29, 2013 12:26 PM (n8LUb)

131 130 Seriously.Does that guy get good ratings?

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 12:26 PM (9XBK2)

132 And people, THIS is how it's done. You make your message into Entertainment, and THAT carries it to the Brawndo voter. We need conservatives that can do Media Entertainment, preferably comedy. That's how we build a message which can break through the distribution boundary. I agree 100%. Laughter and humor is seduction. As a young male I was always amazed at the number of guys who succeeded in lowering the panties of girls way, way outside of their league. How? Over and over, I heard them say, "He makes me laugh".

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 29, 2013 12:26 PM (feFL6)

133 Hassan was promoted through the ranks DESPITE a growing sense of his radicalism.

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 29, 2013 12:28 PM (fwARV)

134 I'd close every mosque in this Country to start with. And then I would let some re-open on a case by case basis under close supervision.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2013 12:29 PM (9Bj8R)

135 And the hit parade rolls on... Chuck Woolery ‏@chuckwoolery 18h Pentagon Consults Anti-Christian Extremist for Religious Tolerance Policy http://shar.es/lHzl2 via @BreitbartNews

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2013 12:29 PM (piMMO)

136 "Truth and Fact" are only necessary if you are concerned with discerning Right from Wrong. Progressivism is not concerned with what is Right, only with what is Correct. Any truth or fact that conflicts with the Narrative could lead to incorrect conclusions and must be suppressed.

Posted by: Beef at April 29, 2013 12:29 PM (tI9wB)

137 I agree 100%. Laughter and humor is seduction. As a young male I was always amazed at the number of guys who succeeded in lowering the panties of girls way, way outside of their league. How? Over and over, I heard them say, "He makes me laugh". Posted by: Regular Moron at April 29, 2013 04:26 PM (feFL6) Liberals have an advantage on us in this regard. While conservatives can be funny, we tend to look elsewhere for a career. (Because we have other options.) Liberals? There are only a few industries where producing nothing useful or practical can give you a career, and entertainment is one of them.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 29, 2013 12:29 PM (bb5+k)

138 Hassan was promoted through the ranks DESPITE a growing sense of his radicalism. The same with Skeeter Hussein.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2013 12:30 PM (GFM2b)

139 Until the Saudis, etc. seized the oil fields from the various oil companies and "nationalized" them, Islam did not have the influence they have today. But, you stack up enough petro-dollars in the hands of the various Islamic theocracies and voila, they get want they want.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at April 29, 2013 12:31 PM (kXoT0)

140

It goes to the culture of The Left--they and their voters are never responsible, and perpetually make excuses.

___

that fits the profile of a narcissistic personality

We're in the hands of a mob whose development was arrested before puberty.

Posted by: kallisto at April 29, 2013 12:31 PM (jm/9g)

141 I'd close every mosque in this Country to start with. And then I would let some re-open on a case by case basis under close supervision. *** the thought that some muzzie bastard found the landing gear and hid it in back of the building at the Ground zero Mosque is beyond infuriating. All this time the folks have been yelling about it being sacred ground, someone there knew it was true.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2013 12:31 PM (piMMO)

142 What is really beautiful is the media is a bit like the terrorists--you can't hold them responsible and vote them out.

There is no check on their power.

Posted by: tasker at April 29, 2013 04:25 PM (r2PLg)

------------------------------------------------

I remember (kind of) a serious conversation about this very subject in a small circle of people which included a newswoman while we were smoking a lot of pot passing around gallons of wine. The newswoman, of all people, was warning us that this was coming. We all laughed.

This was back in 1973.

Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2013 12:32 PM (WWZL7)

143
Ann Coulter is done with Rubio.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 29, 2013 12:33 PM (8dspl)

144 144 We would need a constitutional amendment to close mosques and really rein in islam.I'm in favor of it.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 12:33 PM (9XBK2)

145 Hassan was promoted through the ranks DESPITE a growing sense of his radicalism. The same with Skeeter Hussein. Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2013 04:30 PM (GFM2b) Well just to set the record straight. If your in the Medical Corps in the US Military and you are in a critical care field- and shrinks are- you almost automatically get promoted unless your the biggest fuck up in the world. Now having said that, to many people in that asshole's hasan's chain of command were afraid to blow the whistle on him and yes that is because the even the Military is becoming way way way to PC.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2013 12:34 PM (9Bj8R)

146

The whole government structure is now a case study of the Peter Principle.

I'm going to also add the Peter Pan syndrome also. Incompetent children.

Posted by: polynikes at April 29, 2013 12:34 PM (m2CN7)

147

129...There should be a term for government conducted by journalism proxy.

Punditocracy.

Yeah...but it's not really 'journalism' any more, tasker.

First came Political Correctness...as the handmaiden of the Religion of Stupid.

It was sold to us, as 'politeness'.

Then came Multiculturalism and Celebrating Diversity.

Which are designed to devalue the culture of the host country.

The leftist Media are now the advocates and the enforcers...in the Religion of Stupid.

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 12:35 PM (3B3wv)

148 The muslims weren't much problem when they were under the heels of European colonials either.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 12:35 PM (9XBK2)

149 It's been 50 years and you still haven't figured out that diversity trod truth?

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 29, 2013 12:36 PM (BPfNg)

150 146 Is she still on board with Krispy Kreme Christie?

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 12:36 PM (9XBK2)

151 The muslims weren't much problem when they were under the heels of European colonials either. *** I am seriously beginning to question our desire to spread Democracy and freedom around the world.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2013 12:36 PM (piMMO)

152 144 We would need a constitutional amendment to close mosques and really rein in islam.I'm in favor of it. Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2013 04:33 PM (9XBK2) Prior to the 14th amendment, Individual States could and did have their own official state religions. I believe it wasn't until 1828 that the last official State religion was eliminated.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 29, 2013 12:36 PM (bb5+k)

153 A million casualties in the Iraq Iran war? Sounds more like a good start than a problem.

Posted by: Henry K at April 29, 2013 12:37 PM (UsR5V)

154 Is she still on board with Krispy Kreme Christie? *** Now I want a Krispy Kreme

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2013 12:37 PM (piMMO)

155 50 Why do you think this regime is getting rid of patriotic American officers in the military. It's all the same thing.
Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2013 03:59 PM (WWZL7)

Well if it is any consolation, the US Navy Dental Corps is infected with hard core right wingers! Psss.. but you didn't hear that from me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2013 04:01 PM (9Bj8R)

'They' just haven't got to you....yet. In time comrade, in time.

Posted by: jem at April 29, 2013 12:38 PM (7g1yh)

156 157 So do I ,just sent an aide for a couple dozen.Just a snack.

Posted by: Chris Christie at April 29, 2013 12:38 PM (9XBK2)

157
I think she's all done with Christie, too.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 29, 2013 12:38 PM (vzLhi)

158 Prior to the 14th amendment, Individual States could and did have their own official state religions. I believe it wasn't until 1828 that the last official State religion was eliminated. Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 29, 2013 04:36 PM (bb5+k) We are not talking about state religions. We are talking about controlling and shutting down centers of anti-American treasonous thought and action

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2013 12:39 PM (9Bj8R)

159 Ann Coulter is done with Rubio.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 29, 2013 04:33 PM (8dspl)

So? I've been done with her for awhile now.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 29, 2013 12:39 PM (xmcEQ)

160 youtube

Nick Bostrom - The Simulation Argument (Full)

Chewy.

Posted by: 13times at April 29, 2013 12:40 PM (h6XiD)

161

By and large, the system worked.

For values of 0 equating to "worked".

Posted by: Big Sis at April 29, 2013 12:40 PM (BAS5M)

162 "The Narrative" Is the Enemy of ~~Truth and Fact~~ America and humanity in general

Oh, and FIXED.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 29, 2013 12:41 PM (xmcEQ)

163

Great article over at the US Naval Institute website about the "why." It seems as if these two losers were very much "textbook" in how they followed the profile - if only the profile were followed.

Islam is, obviously, a significant indicator. As the article points out, it's hardly the only one - but that's what makes this more frustrating. There were a lot of indicators here.

There is one interesting counter-indicator here: sports. Most US-based terrorists don't participate in team sports. OTOH, I don't think these two played team sports - just individual sports. Is that correct, or did the younger one play soccer as well as wrestling?

Regardless, the more we learn about this the more we realize that Political Correctness had a lot to do with these two not being dealt with before the attack.

Thought-provoking post, and thought provoking link.

Posted by: RobM1981 at April 29, 2013 12:43 PM (FgxCS)

164 Sometimes I think we would be better off if Putin was the President of the US then Barack "Dumber The Dirt" Obama.........(No offense meant to dirt).

Posted by: Four Horsemen of the Apocolyspe at April 29, 2013 12:43 PM (90aTA)

165 In relation to PC and The Narrative: Washington state has just passed a ban on gender specific language in laws. Not Washington State University, the bloody state of Washington. Because I, as a woman...womyn...innie not outie, whatever, cannot possibly cope with laws that refer to fishermen or PENMANSHIP. Fuck me running. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/23/washington-gives-boot-gender-specific-words-fisher/

Posted by: Ragamuffin at April 29, 2013 12:43 PM (fzFF6)

166 The leftist Media are now the advocates and the enforcers...in the Religion of Stupid. Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 04:35 PM (3B3wv) ************* So kind of like the mullahs with the whips.

Posted by: tasker at April 29, 2013 12:45 PM (r2PLg)

167

I know it's been out there for a few days and everybody seems to be talking about but I just watched Judge Jenine's rant. Boy, you can tell she was pissed.

Also, Jenny, you are looking very hot. Gimme a call. We should talk.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at April 29, 2013 12:45 PM (NQdDJ)

168 Shall we now start our next "electable" rhino pool for 2016? Perhaps j west could get it going.

Posted by: Henry K at April 29, 2013 12:45 PM (UsR5V)

169 Radical Islam is being purged from all governmental auspices as a result of the Obama Administrations War on Political Correctness.

It's actually the only war Obama has a stomach for.

I would call the people in Boston victims of that "war"- wouldn't you?

It's also infected the military. Read today's Washington Times story about Lt. Colonel Mathew Dooley who is now being represented by Thomas Moore Law Center;

http://tinyurl.com/cxblqlk

Posted by: Marcus at April 29, 2013 12:46 PM (GGCsk)

170 If we judge Muslims by their intent and conduct, the terrorists have won.

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 29, 2013 12:46 PM (BPfNg)

171

168...Washington state has just passed a ban on gender specific language in laws.

I read about that...it's insane.

I wonder what new word they will come up with, for 'Manhole'.

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 12:46 PM (3B3wv)

172 Posted by: Ragamuffin at April 29, 2013 04:43 PM (fzFF6)

I'm so glad that WA state has solved all it's other problems.
Like it's budget problems.

Posted by: tsrblke (work)[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 29, 2013 12:47 PM (WTxF0)

173 The media- are our Mutaween.

Posted by: tasker at April 29, 2013 12:47 PM (r2PLg)

174 The MailCarrier Always Rings Twice

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2013 12:47 PM (BAS5M)

175 MEDICAL REINFORCEMENTS ARRIVE AT GUANTANAMO BAY AP 4/29/2013 5:41:29 PM (AP) Medical reinforcements arrive at Guantanamo Bay PORT OF SPAIN, Trinidad Medical reinforcements have arrived at Guantanamo Bay to help deal with a hunger strike among prisoners at the U.S. base in Cuba. Lt. Col. Samuel House said Monday that the roughly 40 nurses and other specialists arrived over the weekend. They are U.S. Navy personnel. He says their arrival was planned several weeks ago as the number of prisoners joining the hunger strike kept growing. Prisoners began the hunger strike in February to protest conditions and their indefinite confinement. The number of striking prisoners has not risen since Saturday, when 100 of the 166 inmates had joined. House says 21 have been receiving liquid nutrients through a nasal tube to prevent dangerous weight loss. Five prisoners are being observed in a base hospital.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2013 12:47 PM (9Bj8R)

176 "Mutawwa'Ã®n" (plural; sing. mutawwa') originally was a casual synonym for the religious police of Saudi Arabia. In Saudi Arabia, the formal short term for the Saudi religious police is هيئة "hay'ah" which is Arabic for "commission" and is a shortened version of "the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vices" which serves as the infrastructure of proselytization and enforcement of Islamic tenets.

Posted by: tasker at April 29, 2013 12:48 PM (r2PLg)

177 I wonder what new word they will come up with, for 'Manhole'.

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 04:46 PM (3B3wv)

A Chris Mathews?

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2013 12:48 PM (BAS5M)

178 I wonder what new word they will come up with, for 'Manhole'. Cootchiemonger?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2013 12:49 PM (GFM2b)

179 So? I've been done with her for awhile now.

Posted by: Â© Sponge at April 29, 2013 04:39 PM (xmcEQ)

For what reason? I hope its not because she happens not to agree with you 100% on every issue.

Posted by: polynikes at April 29, 2013 12:49 PM (m2CN7)

180 Is foreordained a word?

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 29, 2013 12:50 PM (EWBzI)

181

169 The leftist Media are now the advocates and the enforcers...in the Religion of Stupid.

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 04:35 PM (3B3wv)

*************

So kind of like the mullahs with the whips.

Posted by: tasker at April 29, 2013 04:45 PM (r2PLg)

-----------

Yep.

They even have their own version of Taquiiya....or sanctioned lying.

Lying is encouraged, if it furthers their cause.

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 12:50 PM (3B3wv)

182 House says 21 have been receiving liquid nutrients through a nasal tube to prevent dangerous weight loss. Fuck. That. Shit. They want to go on a hunger strike? Fine. Just know death is a consequence. Strike away!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2013 12:51 PM (GFM2b)

183

Medical reinforcements have arrived at Guantanamo Bay to help deal with a hunger strike among prisoners at the U.S. base in Cuba.

Let them die.

Posted by: Kirk at April 29, 2013 12:51 PM (evdj2)

184

I wonder what new word they will come up with, for 'Manhole'.

Posted by: wheatie

***

Coochie Cover

Posted by: Tilikum The Killer Assault Whale at April 29, 2013 12:51 PM (uhftQ)

185 I am seriously beginning to question our desire to spread Democracy and freedom around the world.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2013 04:36 PM (piMMO)

----------------------------------------

I think Bush really wanted to at least start it in Iraq. But when dealing with 7th century thinking, I doubt very seriously that anyone of that nature (muzzies) comprehends what that means, let alone try to practice it.

I'm more quickly coming to the opinion that we start nuking their asses. It's going to happen sooner or later.

Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2013 12:51 PM (WWZL7)

186 183 Is foreordained a word? Posted by: olddog in mo at April 29, 2013 04:50 PM (EWBzI) Yes. Preordained is more common but foreordained does exist. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/foreordain

Posted by: Ragamuffin at April 29, 2013 12:52 PM (fzFF6)

187 or did the younger one play soccer as well as wrestling? *********** Intramural college soccer his team consisted of members of his Muslim prayer group. No joke.

Posted by: tasker at April 29, 2013 12:52 PM (r2PLg)

188 #183, olddog, yes, foreordained is word per Dictionary.com, the word more in common usage is preordained.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at April 29, 2013 12:52 PM (kXoT0)

189 #189, Ragamuffin, great minds.... ;^)

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at April 29, 2013 12:53 PM (kXoT0)

190

"Words...just words. Don't tell me words don't matter."

Remember when Barky said this?

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 12:53 PM (3B3wv)

191 Intramural college soccer his team consisted of members of his Muslim prayer group. No joke. The only tim

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2013 12:53 PM (GFM2b)

192 Yep. They even have their own version of Taquiiya....or sanctioned lying. Lying is encouraged, if it furthers their cause. Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2013 04:50 PM (3B3wv) ********** Oh ya, Dan Rather Grand Muftie-- "Fake but Accurate."

Posted by: tasker at April 29, 2013 12:53 PM (r2PLg)

193 Intramural college soccer his team consisted of members of his Muslim prayer group. No joke. Damn small keyboard. The only time they won was when allah willed it.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2013 12:54 PM (GFM2b)

194 196 Intramural college soccer his team consisted of members of his Muslim prayer group. No joke. Damn small keyboard. The only time they won was when allah willed it. Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2013 04:54 PM (GFM2b) *********** Thanks. I was trying to figure that first message out. Ha!

Posted by: tasker at April 29, 2013 12:56 PM (r2PLg)

195 Nood

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 29, 2013 12:56 PM (X6akg)

196

Comments tl/dr. So apologies if this has been posted already. This video from Tim Blair is perfect for this discussion.

http://tinyurl.com/d277jeh

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at April 29, 2013 12:56 PM (N8yYb)

197 House says 21 have been receiving liquid nutrients through a nasal tube to prevent dangerous weight loss. Five prisoners are being observed in a base hospital What bullshit. I'd be setting up a grill and smoker, and frying bacon all day long in front of them. You want starve? Go for it! But I'm eating this bacon and ham dinner.

Posted by: EC at April 29, 2013 12:58 PM (doBIb)

198

White House commends Jason Collins on coming out

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 29, 2013 12:58 PM (R8hU8)

199 Sounds like the gitmo thing is going to solve itself! Rush L hardest hit!

Posted by: Henry K at April 29, 2013 12:58 PM (UsR5V)

200 "Prisoners began the hunger strike in February to protest conditions and their indefinite confinement."

Is this supposed to upset me? Unless we are keeping them alive for reasons of national security intelligence, I'm pretty damned unmoved. In fact I'd add laxative and colon cleansers to their IVs just to expedite the expirations.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 29, 2013 12:58 PM (eHIJJ)

201 And people, THIS is how it's done. You make your message into Entertainment, and THAT carries it to the Brawndo voter. One other thing; the human body produces certain 'feel good' chemicals, entirely on it's own. Oxytocin is one of them. (Not to be confused -- though I wonder why in the hell a pharma company would name something so closely -- with Oxycontin. Coincidence? Same letters, arranged differently. Damned if I know.) When you 'feel good' your body is producing Oxytocin. You attend a wedding and average levels of Oxytocin spike for hours afterwords. Sexual intercourse? Yup, it's involved. When my wife was 'induced' for our first child? Oxytocin was the chemical administered. From Wiki: "Oxytocin evokes feelings of contentment, reductions in anxiety, and feelings of calmness and security around the mate." I think Ronald Reagan was a master at making people laugh, reducing our anxiety, making us feel calm as the world was re-shaped.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 29, 2013 01:01 PM (feFL6)

202 We are not talking about state religions. We are talking about controlling and shutting down centers of anti-American treasonous thought and action Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2013 04:39 PM (9Bj8R) I understand that, but to do so you are going to have to invoke some sort of positive law which would allow it. That first amendment is pretty hard to get around.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 29, 2013 01:01 PM (bb5+k)

203 Is this supposed to upset me? Unless we are keeping them alive for reasons of national security intelligence, I'm pretty damned unmoved. In fact I'd add laxative and colon cleansers to their IVs just to expedite the expirations. Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 29, 2013 04:58 PM (eHIJJ) It is a tactic to further their cause by political means. Dying would serve their political cause. We ought not let them do it for that reason alone.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 29, 2013 01:06 PM (bb5+k)

204 DiogenesLamp: "It is a tactic to further their cause by political means. Dying would serve their political cause. We ought not let them do it for that reason alone."

And it could be said that letting them die (or killing them) would serve our own political cause. You wanna be a terrorist? You can die in any number of places and we have a special center to see that that happens if our own "selfish" needs are not satisfied. We won't be intimidated by their political cause because our own matters, too. Don't want to join civil society? Fine. We can mete out barbarism as well and its exercise won't be a sign of a slippery slope (to inhumanity) they'll surely assert.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 29, 2013 01:20 PM (eHIJJ)

205 ahem. Fact and truth ARE THE ENEMY of the narrative.

Posted by: gay assault terrorist flounder at April 29, 2013 01:22 PM (Kkt/i)

206 eah , with them blaming the russians.

I wasn't aware the russians were responsible for the national security of our country.

However the russians did decided to share their intelligence with us, and as we know it was ignored because, their stupidity and 'fairness' is more important than american citizens security.
Quite a change from their shrieking when did Bush know and Why didn't he stop it!

Playing games with national security seems to be what we knew they do, But they never take responsibilty, even as to go to blaming russians for not coming and busting the guys themselves i guess.

Posted by: willow at April 29, 2013 01:24 PM (nqBYe)

207
Herd your planet is getting kinda warm and it's payday today on Mars.
We'll be right over.

Posted by: Mars Needs Women at April 29, 2013 01:41 PM (mETGQ)

208 This ain't new. Also under Carter the US Army removed all references to the USSR and the Warsaw Pact from their operational manuals, replacing them with the "less provocative" Threat.

Oddly the anonymous threat still wore bowl helmets, carried AK-47's and drove T-62's...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 29, 2013 05:53 PM (qvify)

209 The Fernandez piece has been sitting on my browser, finally got around to reading it. I liked the pull-quotes, but on the whole I thought it was a very strange article - hinky indeed - which drew some logically dubious connections between politically-driven FBI internal rulemaking and theories about the evolution of intelligence, near-death experiences, etc, with the latter stuff having nothing to do with the former, imho. It's possible he made some legitimate point or points which simply flew over my head, but the article set off my BS detector, which I have learned to trust even in uncertain waters. Fwiw, the Wissner-Gross article Fernandez mentions (which may be profound, or maybe not*) is discussed here: http://tinyurl.com/br4t7wy and here: http://tinyurl.com/cb9p8we *http://xkcd.com/793/

Posted by: shoeless hunter at April 30, 2013 07:35 PM (dY+4R)

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