May 16, 2013

The New Yorker's @JeffreyToobin: Did the I.R.S. Do Anything Wrong?
— JohnE.

This supposed I.R.S. controversy being discussed in some shadowy ultra-conservative circles has raised some important questions about the obsession of right-wingers to distrust their benevolent and benign government. I'll let The New Yorker's Jeffrey Toobin explain, since his unique skill with the written word far exceeds my ability to accurately digest and convey his eloquent points.

Washington’s scandal machinery, rusty from recent disuse, is cranking back up to speed due to the alleged targeting of conservative groups by the Internal Revenue Service. Darrell Issa, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said, “It’s the kind of thing that scares the American people to their core. When Americans are being targeted for audits based on their political beliefs, that needs to change.” Senator Susan Collins, of Maine, called on the President to apologize. George Will said President Obama could be impeached. Obama himself is taking the path of contrition. At a news conference Monday, the President said, “If in fact I.R.S. personnel engaged in the kind of practices that have been reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups, then that’s outrageous. And there’s no place for it.” More hearings, with more outrage, are planned.

In light of this, it might be useful to ask: Did the I.R.S. actually do anything wrong?

Did they do anything wrong, indeed.

Here we sit on the precipice of a grand realignment of history, society and culture in the image of the new order of common sense government that seeks to cast aside the trappings of backwards for-profit midsets and yet again we are forced to endure the incoherent ramblings of the simple-minded who seek to derail this overdue progression.

Instead of thoughtful policy discussions, we will now be treated to an endless parade of government boogeymen and convoluted conspiracies brought on only in an effort to discredit an honorable and trustworthy administration, run by a renowned Constitutional law professor and respected Nobel Prize winner.

Let us dispense with trivial formalities. The slack-jawed logic of the perpetually offended will never seek to understand the internal flaws inherent to the human soul. The alleged failure of the I.R.S. to consistently apply their fair standards was nothing more than the failure of a system designed by men. The government is made up of men, and therefore is subject to the same defects. This is not an indictment of government itself; this is an indictment of those who fail to recognize the collective good of advancing a streamlined and progressive government.

So, who is ultimately to blame? Perhaps if you're honest with yourself, you'll look deeper into the depths of your heart and you will recognize the brutal truth.

This is your fault. For shame.

Posted by: JohnE. at 05:00 AM | Comments (178)
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1

We need to stop talking.

These idiots will do all the work for us.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 16, 2013 05:01 AM (659DL)

2 what part of the scandal do you not understand jeffrey?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 16, 2013 05:02 AM (GVxQo)

3 Andy's prediction for the day is spot on.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at May 16, 2013 05:02 AM (l3vZN)

4 This weekend, Obama and the press will go away together for a few days. Maybe up to Camp David, which I hear is lovely in springtime. They'll talk, hold hands, and they will fall in love all over again. They'll announce their new love on the Sunday morning talk shows. The press will show off its shiny new diamond bracelet.

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 16, 2013 05:04 AM (8sCoq)

5 Pretend it was Bushitler biatch. That will answer your own question.

Posted by: Up With People at May 16, 2013 05:05 AM (krveP)

6 "Did the I.R.S. actually do anything wrong?"

Yes, you fascist idiot...they did. Whether you are bright enough to grasp it or not.

Could the Burning Times please come already?

Posted by: Stu-22 at May 16, 2013 05:05 AM (k4bdL)

7 Even I call bullshit on this

Posted by: Chris "Sciatica" Matthews at May 16, 2013 05:05 AM (4eNxd)

8 Investigating right-wing groups that might take advantage of the 501(c) 3/4 loopholes created by Congress?  Wholly justified and morally pure.

Investigate MMfA/MMAN and the thousands of other left-wing groups that already do the very same thing?  - crazy paranoid wingnuts.

Posted by: wiserbud at May 16, 2013 05:05 AM (WCe8r)

9 Clue: Not many people give two shits about New York and the New Yorker.

Posted by: Attila at May 16, 2013 05:06 AM (Cs2tJ)

10 Didn't Toobin come down with a sudden case of amnesia over a pregnant girlfriend or some such breathtakingly brilliant analytical maneuver.

Yeah, he's the voice of reason alright.

Posted by: ontherocks at May 16, 2013 05:06 AM (kqIRW)

11 Today it's improper and delayed tax status changes for political ideals. Tomorrow your 1040-EZ asks what political party you a registered to to assess your tax level.

Posted by: WheelmanForHire at May 16, 2013 05:08 AM (ptf90)

12

It's Casey Greenfield fault, too.

Posted by: Pete in TX at May 16, 2013 05:08 AM (3BMrG)

13 Obama brought my cat back from the dead! Then we had marshmallow pies for lunch at the IRS building cafeteria. It was a grand day for all the rocking-horse people.

Posted by: Stop crying at May 16, 2013 05:08 AM (cA3vH)

14 The scandal here isn't IRS scrutiny, it' unequal application of the law based upon political beliefs. Is the author stupid enough to believe his side will be in power forever?

Posted by: Motorhead at May 16, 2013 05:09 AM (y1O6P)

15 >>> WashingtonÂ’s scandal machinery, rusty from recent disuse Oy veh. When did Michelle Malkin publish "Culture of Corruption"' July 2009? How was th view up there, Jeffrey?

Posted by: fluffy at May 16, 2013 05:09 AM (z9HTb)

16 Chuck Schumer is in charge of de-nutting the Citizens United decision.  All this started when that decision came down.  The progs were convinced it would cost them elections.  Schumer has been sending letters to the IRS Commissioner since the decision came down demanding scrutiny of these groups.  I think he sent the Feb 25, 2010 email to the IRS directing them to do this.  Either he or Val Jar

Posted by: thunderb at May 16, 2013 05:10 AM (nH8jP)

17 How does someone type with their head that far up their ass?

Posted by: real joe at May 16, 2013 05:10 AM (PD2ad)

18 "alleged targeting of conservative groups"

Alleged? Really, Toobin? You're still going with that?

Well, we can't all be disingenuous and stupid; so congratulations, Retard.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 16, 2013 05:11 AM (eHIJJ)

19 Sadly, once again, we have failed Him.

Posted by: toby928 at May 16, 2013 05:11 AM (evdj2)

20 Good gawd it's time for a Revolution.

Posted by: Paladin at May 16, 2013 05:11 AM (WujO7)

21 9 Clue: Not many people give two shits about New York and the New Yorker.

Posted by: Attila at May 16, 2013 09:06 AM (Cs2tJ)


Especially that latter

Posted by: Ed Gibbon at May 16, 2013 05:11 AM (4eNxd)

22 BRB

[getting a hair shirt and a flail.]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 16, 2013 05:11 AM (O6Tmi)

23

o cmon a little political harassment and intimidation, what's the big deal? its not tyranny or foreshadowing of anything to come

 

---- saddam hussein, circa 70s

Posted by: Bigby's Rodeo Hands at May 16, 2013 05:12 AM (3ZtZW)

24 OT/
Was reading at AT that the DOJ wiretaps may have included the Congressional Cloakroom......

I can understand that. There are prolly a lot of foreign agents calling cabs from there.
National Security donchyaknow....

Posted by: ontherocks at May 16, 2013 05:12 AM (kqIRW)

25 Its not a tooooobin!!


Posted by: dananjcon at May 16, 2013 05:12 AM (jvd3N)

26 All of this is a distraction. We have the terribly important business of ramping up Obama's health care plan, and that is going to take all of us working together in bipartisan fashion, setting aside minor theoretical differences in ideology, to find common solutions to the problem of increasing health cost of health care.

If everyone would just relinquish a tiny bit of partisan belief, make a tiny sacrifice for the greater good we could put this whole sorry episode of misunderstanding behind us and move forward for the good of us all.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 16, 2013 05:12 AM (qegWC)

27 Alleged targeting? The IRS admitted to targeting conservative groups asshole. What a sad state of affairs when you have clowns such as this writing such drivel.

Posted by: kreplach at May 16, 2013 05:12 AM (g2ldK)

28 JohnE., you use your mouth prettier than a twenty dollar whore.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 16, 2013 05:13 AM (dRjJl)

29 Doubleplusungood duckspeak from thoughtcriminals.

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin, minitrue at May 16, 2013 05:13 AM (nFI1a)

30 Someone in the media has to continue to sound like an idiot.  He stepped up.

With the new management over there maybe he knows in his heart of hearts he's just not fitting in anymore.  So he's pushing the envelope.

Posted by: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, at May 16, 2013 05:13 AM (/b8+5)

31 "Let us dispense with trivial formalities. The slack-jawed logic of the perpetually offended will never seek to understand the internal flaws inherent to the human soul." Well said, John. A fundamental basis of the problem IMO is theological-that much of the left has dispensed with God and so seeks to put something else in God's place-in that case an all seeing and knowing benevolent government-the giver of all good things. The doctrine doesn't include human sin so they just believe if we just get the correct kind of government we will have the perfectability of humanity. Dangerous stuff when combined with idol worship of a faux messiah. Even conservatives who don't believe in God haven't put the government in its place and without calling it "sin" know that human beings are not perfect and will never have a perfect government. "Put not your trust in princes". Whether one believes that or not it's great advice.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2013 05:13 AM (Y+BDJ)

32 Well, these IRS agents weren't breaking the "LAW", they were just interpreting the "REGULATIONS".  And if you remember those questions on many government forms, you are asked if you belong to a group that supports the overthrow of the US Government.  The low level IRS rogue agents simply applied logic and concluded that ALL those conservative and TEA Party groups were indeed advocating overthrow of the current government (although in a very stealthy way by cloaking themselves in pro-Constitutional language). 

So, bottom line is everybody was just doing their job, nothing to see here, move along and lets get back to the busniness of trying to govern an America that is too big to govern.


JIC /s

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 16, 2013 05:13 AM (Cnqmv)

33 Is the author stupid enough to believe his side will be in power forever? Speaking of tit-for-tat, since this admin chose not to prosecute the Black Panthers, then how about the next GOP admin simply choose not to prosecute anyone evading taxes?

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at May 16, 2013 05:13 AM (V3kRK)

34

Toobin has a hard on about Citizens United as well, he wrote this in the New Yorker on May 21, 2012

 

 

 

In a different way, though, Citizens United is a distinctive product of the Roberts Court. The decision followed a lengthy and bitter behind-the-scenes struggle among the Justices that produced both secret unpublished opinions and a rare reargument of a case. The case, too, reflects the aggressive conservative judicial activism of the Roberts Court. It was once liberals who were associated with using the courts to overturn the work of the democratically elected branches of government, but the current Court has matched contempt for Congress with a disdain for many of the CourtÂ’s own precedents. When the Court announced its final ruling on Citizens United, on January 21, 2010, the vote was five to four and the majority opinion was written by Anthony Kennedy. Above all, though, the result represented a triumph for Chief Justice Roberts. Even without writing the opinion, Roberts, more than anyone, shaped what the Court did. As American politics assumes its new form in the post-Citizens United era, the credit or the blame goes mostly to him.

 

 

 

the IRS scrutiny is all a reaction to Citizens United

Posted by: thunderb at May 16, 2013 05:14 AM (nH8jP)

35 There, there, Jeffrey. 

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 16, 2013 05:14 AM (wbmaj)

36 Meant "Whether one believes in God or not" it's great advice.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 16, 2013 05:14 AM (Y+BDJ)

37

>>>>Good gawd it's time for a Revolution.

 

Bwahahaha like that's going to happen *rolls eyes*

Posted by: Bigby's Rodeo Hands at May 16, 2013 05:14 AM (3ZtZW)

38 It must be really nice to live in Jeffrey toobins world, where icky conservatives really need to be segregated from "decent" people. Because that kind of segregation is absolutely okay. I cannot fathom the thoughts that go through these people's heads. I honestly do not understand ths kind of cognitive disconnect.

Posted by: moki at May 16, 2013 05:15 AM (SdetR)

39 33 Is the author stupid enough to believe his side will be in power forever? He's smart enough to know Republicans don't respond in kind, and of they do, the Press becomes animated and attacks.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 16, 2013 05:15 AM (nFI1a)

40 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,curious catpiss troll(/b8+5) what is beck saying?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 16, 2013 05:15 AM (GVxQo)

41 Good gawd it's time for a Revolution. It's already underway. Obama and his minions are in active rebellion against the United States.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at May 16, 2013 05:16 AM (V3kRK)

42 Toobin should go choke in someone else's vomit

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at May 16, 2013 05:17 AM (lD8ju)

43 When I was targeted by the IRS, two agents came to my home (connected to my fundrasing activities for my "Jack Daniel's Party").  They grilled me for two hours, and then one of them leaned closer and said:  "We'd like to know your private thoughts."  I said, "Sure...I'd like to slit your cocksucking throat from ear to ear and watch you drown in your own blood.  Anything else?" 

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 16, 2013 05:17 AM (wbmaj)

44

Jeffrey Toobin has always been a left wing demogogue posing as an objective legal analyst.  He's further to the left than most liberal pundits, and he can't even concede that he is one.

So in other words, he is a dishonest piece of shit.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at May 16, 2013 05:18 AM (8cOY0)

45
Surprisingly, a man who knocked up a co-worker's daughter during an extra-marital affair has a somewhat nuanced definition of "wrong".

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 16, 2013 05:18 AM (kdS6q)

46

What Nimrods like Toobin are not understanding is that this is exactly a case of Profiling.

I feel quite certain that he would have a problem of law enforcement officials targeting citizens for enhanced scrutiny based on skin color.  He'd also object to targeting based on behaviors or 'fashion' decisions which would disproportionately affect people of color.

 

Why then does he give a pass to targeting citizens based on ideology and non-illegal political affiliation?  Wasn't blacklisting commies wrong?  Or would he now be down with that?

Mike

Posted by: MikeW at May 16, 2013 05:18 AM (NmARk)

47 Posted by: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, (/b8+5)

I feel so sorry for you.

Posted by: wonder at May 16, 2013 05:18 AM (cA3vH)

48 (/b8+5) remember when you told all of us here how the "president" has surrounded himself with the best and brightest ivy leaguers? and you believed that was a good thing?.....ah the follies of the fake youth!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 16, 2013 05:19 AM (GVxQo)

49 mew, kill me, mew.

Posted by: komma kitteh at May 16, 2013 05:19 AM (W7ffl)

50 Toobin is perfectly OK with using the IRS to get rid of the effects of a case he does not like.  The ends justify the means

Posted by: thunderb at May 16, 2013 05:20 AM (nH8jP)

51 It's clear that Tea Party groups don't fit 501(c)(4)'s murky definition!

Posted by: Cerebral Paul Z. at May 16, 2013 05:20 AM (FLFli)

52 Did the I.R.S. actually do anything wrong?





No not at all comrade. Is this the train for the gulag?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 16, 2013 05:20 AM (1Jaio)

53 Fenelonspoke, I absolutely love your thought on issues. Thank you!!

Posted by: moki at May 16, 2013 05:21 AM (SdetR)

54 Bwahahaha like that's going to happen *rolls eyes*

I can dream, can't I?

Posted by: Paladin at May 16, 2013 05:21 AM (WujO7)

55 Lawyers that can't do get gigs with The New Yorker.

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 16, 2013 05:21 AM (wbmaj)

56 Mr. Not a mensa candidate. How bout at least the release of confidential information to news orgs?

Posted by: YaHump at May 16, 2013 05:21 AM (tGHEU)

57

Heh,

 

I read the actual post.

He claims the IRS will be vindicated mostly because the "tea party groups" were political in nature or some shit.

Two points I think are important here:

1) Define political you fuckshit.  As I understand the law, campaigning for "limited government" and a "Return to the constitution" are not in fact political (as far as the 501(c)4 designation is concerned.)  So on fact 1 you're an asswipe.

2) I submit to you OFA, which is far more clearly political than even American's for Prosperity, they run the fucking president's twitter account for godsakes.  So the rules aren't being applied fairly, which is *gasp* the scandal. (not that the rules were being applied, but that it was unfair.)

Posted by: tsrblke at May 16, 2013 05:22 AM (GaqMa)

58 martha! thank you for bringing that up!!!! harry reid, the pederast, claimed romney hadn't paid taxes in 10 yrs......where did he get that info........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 16, 2013 05:23 AM (GVxQo)

59 FWIW: NRO's Kevin Williamson thinks the original question to Lois Lerner that prompted her "apology" was planted, which would support the idea that this is all a distraction (even if it is a worthy story).
http://preview.tinyurl.com/c8wycux

Posted by: Lizzy at May 16, 2013 05:23 AM (0qqnb)

60 I think it's fine for 501(c)s to be political in nature, just no partisan in nature, so, shockingly, Toobin is full of shit.

Posted by: toby928 at May 16, 2013 05:24 AM (evdj2)

61 The obvious problem with opinion and analysis from most of these leftist asshats from the MFM is if they all start spewing at once it's really gonna stink up the joint.

Not to mention the friggin' hats flying everywhere.

We might as well ask Susan Rice to critique Sunday morning news shows, or ask Shrillary to do an exercise video.

They are all worthless parasites.

Posted by: ontherocks at May 16, 2013 05:25 AM (kqIRW)

62

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - With no sign of an end to three mushrooming scandals, the White House acknowledged the rising political dangers on Wednesday by launching a concerted effort at damage control.

In a whirlwind few hours, the administration moved forcefully to counter criticism of its handling of the deadly attacks in Benghazi, Libya, the seizure of reporters' phone records in a Justice Department leak investigation, and the Internal Revenue Service's targeting of conservative groups for extra scrutiny.



Quite a whirlwind. They all claimed they knew nothing about anything


In the most aggressive response, President Barack Obama ousted the acting IRS commissioner on Wednesday evening.



He ousted a guy who was going to leave in a couple of weeks. GUTSY CALL!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 16, 2013 05:26 AM (1Jaio)

63 Jeffrey Toobin makes Meghan McCain look like a deep thinker. Seriously, there has to be a disease that describes this condition. Maybe LDD would suffice....Logic Deficit Disorder....The inability to connect simple points of data into a cohesive conclusion that a first grader could accomplish in 30 seconds.

Posted by: YaHump at May 16, 2013 05:27 AM (tGHEU)

64 The human shields are getting into place. 

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at May 16, 2013 05:27 AM (wbmaj)

65 I denounce myself!

Posted by: Preznint Say Stuff at May 16, 2013 05:28 AM (ULH4o)

66 It must be really nice to live in Jeffrey toobins world, where icky conservatives really need to be segregated from "decent" people. Because that kind of segregation is absolutely okay.

Manhattan?  They don't need to be segregated, they already are.

Posted by: pep at May 16, 2013 05:28 AM (YXmuI)

67 "WashingtonÂ’s scandal machinery, rusty from recent disuse, is cranking back up to speed due to the alleged targeting of conservative groups by the Internal Revenue Service."

***


Yeesh..and we thought Mega Mac was useful idiot.

Posted by: dananjcon at May 16, 2013 05:28 AM (jvd3N)

68 58- I just saw that too. Very good question. I also sure toobin thinks Fox News should be super audited, if that exists. And prayers for Granbury, Tx. Our old family farm was there. I pray for those missing.

Posted by: moki at May 16, 2013 05:29 AM (SdetR)

69 Is there anybody from Harvard who ISN'T a total dick?

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 16, 2013 05:29 AM (8sCoq)

70

Pfft.  It's The New Yorker.  Tha magazine that, when it first came out, proudly sneered that it wasn't "for the little old lady in Dubuque."  They've always been parochial snobs who think  getting drunk at the Algonquin and sharting yourself in Elaine's is the height of living.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 16, 2013 05:29 AM (zF6Iw)

71 i look forward to eric holder walking the streets mumbling "i am the attorney general of the United States"

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 16, 2013 05:29 AM (GVxQo)

72 What the IRS did wrong and from what we have seen this is probably only the tip of the iceberg, is to NOT apply the law, or standards, or interpretation, evenly across the board. And given the IRS's inherent power that subverts the entire system. No doubt what the fascist liberals intended. This was NO mistake.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 16, 2013 05:29 AM (9Bj8R)

73 In 2012, Every Presidential Campaign Donation From Cincinnati IRS Office Went To ObamaÂ… Enough said

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 16, 2013 05:31 AM (9Bj8R)

74 WashingtonÂ’s scandal machinery, rusty from recent disuse, is cranking back up to speed due to the alleged admitted targeting of conservative groups by the Internal Revenue Service. FIFH.

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 05:32 AM (MMC8r)

75 Hey, TB3K, there's a trollface begging for an iron boot on the previous thread.

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 05:33 AM (MMC8r)

76 Toobin conveniently left out the part where the IRS was turning over the information on these groups to their political opponents

But hey... TEABAGGRZ !!!

Posted by: kbdabear at May 16, 2013 05:33 AM (mCvL4)

77 Another whiny post about the IRS non story. You just can't deal with the reality Obama won again. It sucks to be on a losing team like the republicans.

I have no pity for you fools.

Posted by: Stop lying at May 16, 2013 05:33 AM (SFpLR)

78 It looks to me like we are just one IRS audit of the New Yorker from having an eloquent and influential ally. Now, which is more likely: that, or the Meteor?

Posted by: comatus at May 16, 2013 05:34 AM (JNUY4)

79 WashingtonÂ’s scandal machinery, rusty from recent disuse, is cranking back up to speed due to the alleged admitted targeting of conservative groups by the Internal Revenue Service.

FIFH.

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 09:32 AM (MMC8r)



That's exactly what I was thinking. If it's admitted it can't be alleged. Someone should get Jeffy a dictionary.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 16, 2013 05:34 AM (1Jaio)

80 Here comes the media back into fold. From now on, this will be an 'alleged targeting'; the sources will be portrayed as dishonest. They'll start digging on these groups in an attempt to find something - ANYTHING - that they can use to smear them, while ignoring the fact that the IRS has already admitted they did what they did. You don't apologize for something you didn't do, but the IRS statement will be forgotten, and, now that the media is starting to signal their willingness to cover it up, the IRS will now walk back that apology, and begin stonewalling. Like F&F, the hope is that this will get tied up in court and the Dems take back the house so that all investigations can be dropped.

Posted by: blindside at May 16, 2013 05:34 AM (x7g7t)

81 78 zsasz

I have multiple IPs. You can run from the truth, but life is a bitch.

Posted by: Stop lying at May 16, 2013 05:34 AM (SFpLR)

82 Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Oh, and fuck you Toobin.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 16, 2013 05:34 AM (sbV1u)

83 omg wrath of khan has kirstie alley with vulcan ears why didn't anybody tell me

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 16, 2013 05:35 AM (8sCoq)

84 OK time to ban the troll. it is not contributing anything but foul smelling air

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 16, 2013 05:35 AM (9Bj8R)

85 Hey Barrack--try "no controlling legal authority."

Posted by: Algore at May 16, 2013 05:35 AM (JQuNB)

86 I have no pity for you fools. Posted by: Stop lying at May 16, 2013 09:33 AM (SFpLR) Trust us. We have NONE whatsoever for your type. I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. When the zombie hordes come, I'm going to kick you in the face and back into the hordes as you try to climb the wall to safety. And I'm going to laugh as they tear you apart. I positively can't wait.

Posted by: blindside at May 16, 2013 05:36 AM (x7g7t)

87 "Is the author stupid enough to believe his side will be in power forever?" He knows there will be Republican Presidents, but they will be held to the rule of law by the media wing of the Party, while Democrat Presidents will be sheltered by articles just like this, written by sophists just like him.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 16, 2013 05:36 AM (7Vmd3)

88 "This is your fault. For shame." I'm sorry.

Posted by: m at May 16, 2013 05:36 AM (HhdmT)

89 The Voice of Germany, 1933, is starting to whisper again....

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 05:37 AM (MMC8r)

90 Trolls only come out when their boyfriend is getting ass-raped in the press.

Enjoy the smell of their flop-sweat and desperation.  Drink deeply of their tears.  If they were winning....they wouldn't be here.

'Scuse me now.  I have a schadenboner that's lasted more than 24 hours.  I need to see a medical professional.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 16, 2013 05:37 AM (sbV1u)

91 4 This weekend, Obama and the press will go away together for a few days. Maybe up to Camp David, which I hear is lovely in springtime. They'll talk, hold hands, and they will fall in love all over again. Posted by: Jones in CO at May 16, 2013 09:04 AM (8sCoq) You forgot, "have an orgy."

Posted by: Body Builder at May 16, 2013 05:37 AM (DrC22)

92 TheQuietMan: "He ousted a guy who was going to leave in a couple of weeks. GUTSY CALL!"

Yeah, and Mr. Transparent didn't actually fire anyone. He let a subordinate accept a "voluntary" resignation of an even more subordinate. He didn't march in to the office and say, "You're fired for your gross dereliction blah blah blah." It's as limp-dicked a termination as could be possible.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 16, 2013 05:37 AM (eHIJJ)

93 72 Is there anybody from Harvard who ISN'T a total dick?

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 16, 2013 09:29 AM (8sCoq)

 

 

Ted Cruz, Harvard Law.  Does that count?

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 16, 2013 05:38 AM (Ijr/x)

94 Jeffrey Toobin's reading list from IRS request: The Little Red Hen by Margot Zemach, Magic School Bus On the Ocean Floor by Joanna Cole, and Curious George by H. A. Rey. Wow! Jeffrey is reading above his class level.

Posted by: YaHump at May 16, 2013 05:38 AM (tGHEU)

95 OK time to ban the troll. it is not contributing anything but foul smelling air

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 16, 2013 09:35 AM (9Bj8R)




It's got a Palin Steele stink to it. It only writes things that a 6 year old would think are clever

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 16, 2013 05:38 AM (1Jaio)

96 These Liberal Fucktard Cultists will do anything to keep their little boy-god on that crucifix.

I even think they would sacrifice themselves for him.

These Libtards are fucking dangerous in their impenetrable delusions and sheer stupidity.

Amazing.

Posted by: Strife at May 16, 2013 05:38 AM (ntNJz)

97 'Scuse me now. I have a schadenboner that's lasted more than 24 hours. I need to see a medical professional.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 16, 2013 09:37 AM (sbV1u)

"Medical professional," of course, means "myself, in my bunk."

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 16, 2013 05:38 AM (fwARV)

98 61 FWIW: NRO's Kevin Williamson thinks the original question to Lois Lerner that prompted her "apology" was planted, which would support the idea that this is all a distraction (even if it is a worthy story). http://preview.tinyurl.com/c8wycux I don't think so. I think it was meant to be a Friday lost over the weekend dump. The question may have been planted so it wasn't asked on a Monday, but my guess is the administration miscalculated how us dumb wingnuts would react to an admission of they were actively being persecuted.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 16, 2013 05:38 AM (X0j4A)

99 OT - I'd like to know when people in this town will get their act together. Sitting here on the porch, NOT drinking coffee. A restaurant right across the street. I know they see me here, not having coffee or breakfast as they hide behind those black windows staring out at me sitting on my porch. And yet they do nothing. This is how they treat future poker champions in the shitty town.

Posted by: Up With People at May 16, 2013 05:39 AM (krveP)

100 I have multiple IPs. You can run from the truth, but life is a bitch.

Posted by: Stop lying at May 16, 2013 09:34 AM (SFpLR)

Wow.

That's brilliant! Nobody has ever thought of that!

Oops! Your step-dad's home with more KY. better hide.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 16, 2013 05:39 AM (O6Tmi)

101 > Ted Cruz, Harvard Law. Does that count? Posted by: olddog in mo at May 16, 2013 09:38 AM (Ijr/x) Yes

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 16, 2013 05:39 AM (8sCoq)

102 Lets not forget they also took medical records of 10 million people in California. when they had a warrant for ONE person's records.    So do something about it.  If you get a refund or only pay the IRS a couple hundred bucks in April, contract your HR dept and take an extra withholding allowance on your W-4.     If every conservative employee did this I think the government would feel the pinch.   

Posted by: PaleRider at May 16, 2013 05:40 AM (m+nIW)

103 We have multiple banhammers.

Posted by: TB3K at May 16, 2013 05:41 AM (MMC8r)

104 star trek movie drinking game Dammit Jim!

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 16, 2013 05:41 AM (8sCoq)

105 All your records are belong to us. Bitches.

Posted by: Your Kinder, Gentler IRS at May 16, 2013 05:41 AM (JQuNB)

106 "Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey."

Posted by: Maude Lebowski at May 16, 2013 05:41 AM (a9L+B)

107 Hey, Beck was trying to figure out what to call the collective scandals, but didn't want to use the suffix '-gate.' How about 'Putsch?'

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 05:42 AM (MMC8r)

108 John E well it does make sense in the light of Their  speech , denigrating : lying, about the conservative groups , particularly the tea party.

Of course  THEY should be able to use the arm of the Govt to punish dissenters!

That's why i laugh when  the media on Tee Vee seem to  be surprised  at the use of IRS as the facilitator to squashing their  opponents.

They really don't mind they are just goring  this administration back a little after He hurt their feelings  by not trusting them fully to carry his water.

Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 05:42 AM (nqBYe)

109 *crickets*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 16, 2013 05:42 AM (GQ72I)

110

I have multiple IPs

 

*****

 

Let's see, in my 50's termionology, I'm guessing-

 

Idiotic Personae?

 

Insane Pretentions?

 

Infected Pustules? 

 

 

Help me out, am I getting warm?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 16, 2013 05:43 AM (pxDth)

111 omg

wrath of khan has kirstie alley with vulcan ears
why didn't anybody tell me

 

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 16, 2013 09:35 AM (8sCoq)

 

She was pretty smoking hot in that movie.  I still think she's sexy; unfortunately, she's crazy as a loon.

 

Here's another bit (perhaps) for your fapping pleasure: during the filming of The Undiscovered Country, Kim Cattrall posed for a series of nude shots on the Enterprise bridge, wearing only her Vulcan ears and hairstyle.  Apparently, when Roddenberry heard about it, he seized every picture and negative and had them all destroyed.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 16, 2013 05:43 AM (zF6Iw)

112 87 Nevergiveup

Poor cry baby bigot. You can't deal with being reminded how much of a loser your side is.

I am with the winners and mock you fools.

Posted by: Stop lying at May 16, 2013 05:43 AM (SFpLR)

113 "Medical professional," of course, means "myself, in my bunk."

No.  It means this  http://tinyurl.com/avz7x5o

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 16, 2013 05:43 AM (sbV1u)

114 OT

Cabelas has .22LR for 5 cents/rd right now.  Winchester and Remington.

Move fast if you want it.

Posted by: EC at May 16, 2013 05:43 AM (GQ8sn)

115 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 16, 2013 09:38 AM (X0j4A)
***
Yeah - It may have been to very vaguely admit it amidst so many other stories so that weeks and months from now the admin could say "We've already addressed the issue - this is old news, move along now."

It's just so typical of this admin to do this sort of thing. They NEVER admit wrongdoing, so you have to ask "why" and "why now?" This didn't just happen.


Posted by: Lizzy at May 16, 2013 05:44 AM (0qqnb)

116 This troll bores me. Have we not anyone more interesting? Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 16, 2013 09:42 AM (OWjjx)

I've yet to find one that actually had a valid point to make.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 16, 2013 05:44 AM (sbV1u)

117 >Hey, Beck was trying to figure out what to call the collective scandals, Fuckapalooza The Jug-eared Anomaly The Troubles

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 16, 2013 05:44 AM (8sCoq)

118 Ever notice catpiss always brings a friend?

Posted by: thunderb at May 16, 2013 05:44 AM (8rYCK)

119 Apparently, when Roddenberry heard about it, he seized every picture and negative and had them all destroyed.


Roddenberry also threw Denise Crosby off the show after her Playboy pictorial came out.

What a killjoy.

Posted by: EC at May 16, 2013 05:44 AM (GQ8sn)

120 omg wrath of khan has kirstie alley with vulcan ears why didn't anybody tell me Dude. It's been 30 years. And 300 pounds.

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 05:44 AM (MMC8r)

121 114 : Mallamutt, RINO

You can't deal with being reminded you are on a losing team. I love busting the republican bubble.

Posted by: Stop lying at May 16, 2013 05:45 AM (SFpLR)

122 I have multiple IPs 'Intellectual Problems.'

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 05:45 AM (MMC8r)

123 teh internet tuff guy is getting testy....c'mon give us your credentials!!!!! tell us how smart you are!!!! tell us how educated!!! c'mon!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 16, 2013 05:45 AM (GVxQo)

124 120 OT Cabelas has .22LR for 5 cents/rd right now. Winchester and Remington. Move fast if you want it. Disgusting.

Posted by: Diane Feinstein at May 16, 2013 05:46 AM (JQuNB)

125 Infected pustules

Posted by: thunderb at May 16, 2013 05:46 AM (8rYCK)

126 Boss: "Did you have sex with the janitor?"
George Costanza: "Was that wrong?"

Posted by: bretzysdude at May 16, 2013 05:46 AM (cNQM/)

127 Invertebrate penis

Posted by: thunderb at May 16, 2013 05:46 AM (8rYCK)

128 There are two camps in the MSM regarding the AP scandal;

Those who are pissed off because they rely on sources who are going to shut up now that they know Holder will find them

Those who say "nothing to see here" because they are told what to write by the White House

Posted by: kbdabear at May 16, 2013 05:46 AM (mCvL4)

129 aw...how cute....he's a bubble buster......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 16, 2013 05:46 AM (GVxQo)

130 David Ignatius :
"The crippling problem in Washington these days isnÂ’t any organized conspiracy against conservatives, journalists or anyone else. Rather, itÂ’s a federal establishment thatÂ’s increasingly paralyzed because of poor management and political second-guessing."

"The Attorney General recused himself  because of fear of a perceived conflict of interest."

."......you find a common theme of bad decisions by government officials, compounded by finger-pointing and second-guessing from Congress. "

http://preview.tinyurl.com/crvuzer


Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 16, 2013 05:46 AM (qegWC)

131

Losing on gun control? Winning!

 

Rocked by scandals? Winning?

 

Lame duck four months into 2nd term? Winning!

 

Trolling from mother's basement? Winning!

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 16, 2013 05:47 AM (AyYZD)

132 .omg wrath of khan has kirstie alley with vulcan ears why didn't anybody tell me I wasn't saying it like it was a good thing

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 16, 2013 05:47 AM (8sCoq)

133 Of course! It's all so simple now!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 16, 2013 05:47 AM (P7hip)

134 The Marxists Internet Archive is a non-profit, 501(c)(3) organization

I wonder how long it took them to get through the IRS ?

Posted by: Joe Stalin at May 16, 2013 05:47 AM (e8kgV)

135 Incoherent philosophies

Posted by: thunderb at May 16, 2013 05:47 AM (8rYCK)

136

Irritating Propensities?

 

Ignorant Phrases?

 

Inane Politics?

 

 

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 16, 2013 05:47 AM (pxDth)

137 Things liberals never think about:

1. In the event of nuclear war all of the prime targets are deep blue cities.

2. In the event of civil war with the Red States - essentially all of the food is grown in fly-over country, the people in the Blue States are disarmed, and the U.S. military is made up of mostly Red State volunteers.

Just saying.

Posted by: An Observation at May 16, 2013 05:48 AM (ylhEn)

138 This blog like other republican outlets claimed Romney had the election in the bag. They told you to ignore all the polls, that this was 1980 all over again. This blog lied to you, how can you respect a blog that lied to you?

Dwell on that and now I bid you farewell. I have a heart and feel bad beating up mental midgets who live in world based on lies. America hates your guts and no amount of living in a bubble will shield you from that reality.

Posted by: Stop lying at May 16, 2013 05:48 AM (SFpLR)

139 "The crippling problem in Washington these days isnÂ’t any organized conspiracy against conservatives, journalists or anyone else. Rather, itÂ’s a federal establishment thatÂ’s increasingly paralyzed because of poor management and political second-guessing."

Work with me David!  I know you can do it!

Who's responsible for any given organization?  That's right.  The person in charge.  Now...I know this is hard for you....

Who's in charge now?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 16, 2013 05:48 AM (sbV1u)

140

Insidious Postulates?

 

Insipid Politics?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 16, 2013 05:48 AM (pxDth)

141 infected penis infantile personality

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 16, 2013 05:49 AM (GVxQo)

142 ...Winning...!

Posted by: White House Spokesman Charlie Sheen posting on AoSHQ at May 16, 2013 05:49 AM (MMC8r)

143 I feel bad beating up on mental midgets who are disconnected from reality and have nothing interesting to say.

But hey, that's just me.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at May 16, 2013 05:49 AM (sbV1u)

144 Incestuous philandering

Posted by: thunderb at May 16, 2013 05:49 AM (8rYCK)

145 Inch-long Penis

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 05:50 AM (MMC8r)

146 Ignorant prog

Posted by: thunderb at May 16, 2013 05:50 AM (8rYCK)

147 Incumbent Pedophile?

Posted by: Hairy Reid at May 16, 2013 05:51 AM (l3vZN)

148 Posted by: Stop lying at May 16, 2013 09:33 AM (SFpLR) HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!! Wow, the "you're whining whiners what whine" gambit is the talking point for the Axeltrolls this morning. I've seen it now in the comment section of several websites. This is spectacularly weak sauce even by the usual progtard standards. Yes, yes, we're whiners but- your people are criminals.

Posted by: Staff at May 16, 2013 05:51 AM (G9qZk)

149 inarticulate pussy

Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 05:51 AM (nqBYe)

150 Posted by: Stop lying at May 16, 2013 09:48 AM (SFpLR)







It's got to go. It is trouble. Mommy found out that it has been in mommy's underwear drawer again making quite a mess

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 16, 2013 05:51 AM (1Jaio)

151 (not  that i should talk)

but hey it goes with the ip

Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 05:52 AM (nqBYe)

152 I was feeling depressed, but then the troll came along to remind me of how much more moral and intelligent we are than the opposition. Thanks, troll! That made my day a little better.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 16, 2013 05:52 AM (AyYZD)

153 Irritating prick

Posted by: thunderb at May 16, 2013 05:52 AM (8rYCK)

154 Stop WHINING about our FELONIES!!!

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 05:52 AM (MMC8r)

155 Is there anybody from Harvard who ISN'T a total dick?

Posted by: Jones in CO at May 16, 2013 09:29 AM (8sCoq)
==========

P.J. O'Rourke: http://bit.ly/19tjpeA

Posted by: Nighthawk at May 16, 2013 05:52 AM (OtQXp)

156 So, who are these 'low-level staffers,' exactly? Shouldn't they be getting frogmarched?

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 05:52 AM (MMC8r)

157 Why spend all that time writing lies? He could have summed it up in one sentence using the truth. "I wholeheartedly support the left in America using the machinery of government to illegally punish its domestic enemies and help it win elections with no moral or ethical qualms."

Posted by: Mr Pink at May 16, 2013 05:53 AM (o9zEc)

158 No. It means this http://tinyurl.com/avz7x5o

Posted
by: Sean Bannion at May 16, 2013 09:43 AM (sbV1u)

Oh.  Hello, Gingers...

I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 16, 2013 05:53 AM (fwARV)

159 The IRS was just reaching across the aisle.

Posted by: Barky the Wonderdog at May 16, 2013 05:54 AM (JQuNB)

160 inarticulate pussy

Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 09:51 AM (nqBYe)

Boom!

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 16, 2013 05:54 AM (fwARV)

161 The troll's rage smells of persecution complex, so I'm thinking it's steeped in Identity Politics (hey, IP).

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 05:54 AM (MMC8r)

162 trolls,' We love these tactics!'

shut up  shlubs , the only useful function you have is paying taxes.

when you no longer can do that we love the death panels!

very admirable , i actually enjoy them outing their propensities, why allow ourselves to be fooled what we are dealing with?

Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 05:55 AM (nqBYe)

163 trolls,' We love these tactics!' Yup. Same true-believer mindset that has filled killing fields throughout human history.

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 05:56 AM (MMC8r)

164 washington nearsider I blame ace's  whore house post yesterday.

Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 05:57 AM (nqBYe)

165 171 trolls,' We love these tactics!' shut up shlubs , the only useful function you have is paying taxes. when you no longer can do that we love the death panels! very admirable , i actually enjoy them outing their propensities, why allow ourselves to be fooled what we are dealing with? Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 09:55 AM (nqBYe) The problem is our side will be fooled right there. How many Jews thought it was all just rhetoric and didn't flee before the gas chambers started?

Posted by: Mr Pink at May 16, 2013 05:57 AM (o9zEc)

166 It's safe to say that this IRS scandal is orders of magnitude worse than Watergate.

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 05:58 AM (MMC8r)

167 Yup. Same true-believer mindset that has filled killing fields throughout human history.

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 09:56 AM (MMC8r)


true,  although I do hate realizing  those  thoughts were actually  in the minds of our fellow citizens.


But as i said, it is better to know.

Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 05:58 AM (nqBYe)

168 Stop Lying=Jeffery Toobin

Posted by: dananjcon at May 16, 2013 05:58 AM (jvd3N)

169 I blame ace's whore house post yesterday.

Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 09:57 AM (nqBYe)

No.  I think this is one you should just own.  Maybe print it out and have it framed.  It would look great above a fireplace or a couch...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 16, 2013 05:58 AM (fwARV)

170 "Low-level staffers" = "Obama's Plumbers"

Posted by: zsasz at May 16, 2013 05:59 AM (MMC8r)

171 Mr. Pink,  of course we've all been told what evil lurks in the heart of men. Yet the reality is saddening we tell  ourselves But We are such a cosmopolitan and  enlightened society!

as they also had,

look these are our neighbors, our co workers,  that is why it is difficult to believe they are so committed to their made up g-ds gaia, poltics, etc we just can't believe it!

Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 06:02 AM (nqBYe)

172 No. I think this is one you should just own. Maybe print it out and have it framed. It would look great above a fireplace or a couch...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 16, 2013 09:58 AM (fwARV)


sighing,  it might hit too close to home. 

Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 06:04 AM (nqBYe)

173 new post (someone might have mentioned that)

Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 06:05 AM (nqBYe)

174 sighing, it might hit too close to home.

Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 10:04 AM (nqBYe)

Hm... Well... I hope that's not true.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 16, 2013 06:06 AM (fwARV)

175

For those enlightened readers (which is everyone), who may be unaware of what Ace of Spades HQ is, it is a blog where the operator, Ace, usually rolls out of bed around 11 a.m. and his conservative followers (called "morons") exchange foul language, sexual innuendo and repeat memes to humor themselves.

 

For the record, I have never dealt in sexual innuendo.  I'm strictly front-door.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 16, 2013 06:07 AM (zF6Iw)

176 181 Mr. Pink, of course we've all been told what evil lurks in the heart of men. Yet the reality is saddening we tell ourselves But We are such a cosmopolitan and enlightened society! as they also had, look these are our neighbors, our co workers, that is why it is difficult to believe they are so committed to their made up g-ds gaia, poltics, etc we just can't believe it! Posted by: willow at May 16, 2013 10:02 AM (nqBYe) Oh I know. It was hard for me to accept as well. These IRS people that targeted "us", they are normal people. They have wives, kids, and friends who are republicans....but did that stop them? No. What will really flip your lid is when you realize that most of the people you know that vote democrat would still vote for Obama knowing full well he uses the IRS to "punish his enemies". For the most part they will try desperately to cling to "but he didn't know know", or "but they didn't just target conservative groups" or whatever rhetorical dodge they could use to not admit it, but that's what it is. They approve of using illegal (as of now) government force against us for our political beliefs.

Posted by: Mr Pink at May 16, 2013 06:15 AM (o9zEc)

177 Jeffrey is 2 potatoes short of a Toobin.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at May 16, 2013 06:15 AM (ndlFj)

178 John E., it doesn't actually help that you avoid entirely the RATIONALE for Toobin's claim -- if it is a claim; it looks like more of a thought experiment -- that the IRS, or at least the two IRS officials didn't do, or some combination of them and the appointed Commissioner or the acting Commissioner or both -- didn't 'do anything wrong'. Consider Toobin's rationale: it's pretty much the same one argued by the CREW organization in its 14 page brief it's submitted to Congress, and both are pretty much the same as what Lawrence O'Donnell's been arguing since this IRS scandal broke: That the word in the application regulation, "exclusively", has been wrongly interpreted to mean "mostly" for the last 50 or so years. Now, I've been unable to reconcile O'Donnell's two claims about where this supposedly wrong direction derived from: the first night he spoke about it, he pointed to the Treasury Secretary under Eisenhower in 1959; but last night when he spoke about it, he pointed to the Treasury Secretary under Kennedy in 1962. It could be that BOTH are 'to blame', and that what O'Donnell means is Ike's SoT had HIS reasons, but when JFK's SoT reviewed that 3 years later and decided to continue the direction, that effectively cemented the direction as bipartisan. I'm guessing, but that does make some sense. But here's the picture: It was Congress that made the law, and it's been administrations of both stripes that have caused "exclusively" to be interpreted as "mostly", and Congress has been aware of for most if not all of the intervening 54 years. So that means the 2 'rogue' IRS employees in Cincinnati, assuming they were applying the interpretation evenly (a HUGE assumption), even then were defying not just historical precedent and their bosses, but arguably Congress itself. Yet for some reason, John E., you prefer to deviate from that CLEAR evidence of scandal, to concentrate instead -- EXCLUSIVELY (and not even just mostly) -- on the thing we have NO adequate evidence on (not yet, at least), being uneven application of their interpretation, showing discrimination against conservative groups and therefore in favor of liberal groups. But we don't know that at all. Indeed, the evidence dribbling out on this front is to the effect that the Cincinnati Cell were also doing this to liberal groups, but that there were just way MORE conservative groups to do it too. What this does is fall right into the administration's trap (whether it's laid purposely or by accident). It's going to let the administration -- shit, even the Cincinnati Cell -- off the hook entirely if the treatment turns out to have been even-handed. The better approach is to go after what the administration appointees did once they found out what the Cincinnati Cell was up to.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at May 16, 2013 07:09 AM (21TJo)

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