June 27, 2013
— Ace An update to Drew's post below-- when only six organizations were looked at, they may be be being targeted, but they're being targeted for the easy treatment, not the rough treatment.
In a letter to congressional Democrats, the inspector general also said that 100 percent of Tea Party groups seeking special tax status were put under IRS review, while only 30 percent of the progressive groups felt the same pressure.
Let's unpack this whole claim -- liberals are clinging to the idea that if any of their groups were targeted, then this isn't a scandal at all, just equal application of the law.
But this is nonsense. The entire point is that the IRS is supposed to review these applications in order to determine whether the applicant fits under the rule for receiving special status. Progressives are now basically saying that if the IRS did its basic job with respect to progressive groups, and looked at a few of them, then there's no scandal.
But that's what the IRS was supposed to do. That doesn't mean it was "targeting" them.
What's targeting? Targeting is when the IRS applies special search terms to give your applications special scrutiny above and beyond the level that other groups receive.
All the progressive defenders of the IRS seem to be able to allege is that the IRS treated their groups properly and did in fact do some basic due diligence on a few of them.
But they weren't targeted for heightened scrutiny-- they got the regular ol' level of scrutiny.
And they know it, and now they're lying.
Meanwhile, 26% of Obama supporters believe the nation's top terrorist threat is The Tea Party, and, oh joy, I guess a lot of them work at the IRS.
new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters consider radical Muslims to be the bigger threat to the United States today. Thirteen percent (13%) view the Tea Party that way, and another 13% consider other political and religious extremists to be the larger danger....However, among those who approve of the presidentÂ’s job performance, just 29% see radical Muslims as the bigger threat. Twenty-six percent (26%) say itÂ’s the Tea Party that concerns them most. Among those who Strongly Approve of the president, more fear the Tea Party than radical Muslims.
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Posted by: Mallfly at June 27, 2013 07:55 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Andy at June 27, 2013 07:55 AM (r7Gg5)
Posted by: sTevo at June 27, 2013 07:55 AM (HKb4j)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 27, 2013 07:55 AM (a3iAA)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 07:56 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Mallfly at June 27, 2013 07:56 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 07:56 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: steevy at June 27, 2013 07:56 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 07:57 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: steevy
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Posted earlier...has anybody noticed the MFM use of Trayons baby pictures?
Posted by: sTevo at June 27, 2013 07:57 AM (HKb4j)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 07:58 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 07:58 AM (El+h4)
And how many Prog/Com groups are operating today vs how many TP groups?
I'd like to see times and dates.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 27, 2013 07:58 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 07:58 AM (BTYNJ)
They are about taking and keeping power by whatever means they can get away with.
Posted by: real joe at June 27, 2013 07:59 AM (0V5f3)
Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at June 27, 2013 07:59 AM (VtjlW)
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the IRS cannot be allowed to continue in its present form . A partisan organization which has been shown to leak personal financial information to lefitst activist groups and the democrat party, and to specifically target groups opposed to the democrat party cannot continue to have access to the American citizens' personal and financial information. The only solution I find acceptable is a consumption tax, which removes the income data collection from the hands of the government.
I have written my representatives, and I encourage everyone to do the same, and to ask their friends and relatives to do the same.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2013 07:59 AM (UhTsC)
Posted by: Lauren at June 27, 2013 08:00 AM (wsGWu)
Z's lawyer: "It could have been a thousand other things than wet grass, couldn't it"
RJ: "Yes sir."
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 27, 2013 08:00 AM (gZfUw)
Posted by: real joe at June 27, 2013 11:59 AM (0V5f3)
--- And apparently they can get away with anything!
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 27, 2013 08:01 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: angel with a sword at June 27, 2013 08:01 AM (sYNwJ)
Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 08:01 AM (GQ8sn)
Also, how many TP groups were also "visited" by the EPA, OSHA, and various other regulatory agencies.
Fines? Judgments? Lost business days?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 27, 2013 08:01 AM (0HooB)
But that's what the IRS was supposed to do. That doesn't mean it was "targeting" them.
What's targeting? Targeting is when the IRS applies special search terms to give your applications special scrutiny above and beyond the level that other groups receive.
thank you for pointing this out.
Posted by: willow at June 27, 2013 08:02 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 27, 2013 08:02 AM (/kI1Q)
It's good to have goals.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 27, 2013 08:02 AM (ccXZP)
Posted by: steevy at June 27, 2013 08:02 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows ignorance is strength at June 27, 2013 08:02 AM (sBruU)
Posted by: real joe at June 27, 2013 08:03 AM (0V5f3)
Eco-Terrorists, the unmentionable threat.
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at June 27, 2013 08:03 AM (epxV4)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 27, 2013 08:03 AM (zrovg)
I'm going to be very careful in what I say for the next few days... as my Rage Meter has finally gone off the charts...
It has been announced that we are going to Lebanon, to train and Arm the very people who blew up the Marine Barracks there in 1983... so they can fight in Syria.
This one... is personal....
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 08:03 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: GardenGnome at June 27, 2013 08:03 AM (gbD0f)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 08:03 AM (BTYNJ)
Posted by: willow at June 27, 2013 08:03 AM (nqBYe)
Just In: The Food Channel has announced that it is ending it's relationship itself with Trayvon Martin The spokesman said, "just because he is dead is no reason we should treat him any differently Paula Deem."
Posted by: Hatch Chiles at June 27, 2013 08:04 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 27, 2013 08:04 AM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 27, 2013 12:01 PM (0HooB)
Silenced until AFTER the Election.... which is the point most miss...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 08:05 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: DangerGirl, getting angrier by the day at June 27, 2013 08:05 AM (rSIYI)
Posted by: Santino at June 27, 2013 08:05 AM (3GuQx)
Posted by: tony redenzo at June 27, 2013 08:05 AM (LwRkC)
That IG is someone with integrity. I assume he will soon have a complaint that he is senile or something.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 27, 2013 08:05 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 08:05 AM (El+h4)
Posted by: YFS at June 27, 2013 08:05 AM (evUpK)
Posted by: buzzion at June 27, 2013 08:05 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: dogfish at June 27, 2013 08:05 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 08:05 AM (XIxXP)
This one... is personal....
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 12:03 PM (lZBBB)
I will stand with the Muslims...
Posted by: b. hussein at June 27, 2013 08:05 AM (0V5f3)
A]Obama has repeatedly called them out by name as an enemy, unlike any or our actual enemies, such as Iran, AQ, etc.
B]The MSM immediately blames the Tea Party for every new terrorisist plot, attack, or incidence of random gun violence (Newtown, Aurora, Giffords).
C] Congress has repeatedly blamed the Tea Party for any gridlock, incivility, etc.
D]All of the above
The narrative has been constructed very carefully so that after years of blaming the Tea Party it is common knowledge without any actual Tea Party crimes committed.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2013 08:06 AM (AmWlQ)
if it were not for the society weakening politically correct drivel bleeding this country from the left, islam and dangerous muslims would have no way to enter or immigrate here and those that were here would be secure in the knowledge that any hatred and sedition against this nation would not be tolerated.
Posted by: rumcrook™ at June 27, 2013 08:06 AM (60WiD)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows ignorance is strength at June 27, 2013 08:06 AM (sBruU)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 08:06 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 08:06 AM (r+7wo)
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 27, 2013 08:07 AM (uGVV9)
The libs are not afraid because they know the Tea Party will not ever take things as far as the libs are willing to. If even one prog group had suffered the persecution that hundreds of Tea Party groups have suffered, the progs would have firebombed every IRS office from DC to California, with riots inbetween.
Posted by: shillelagh at June 27, 2013 08:07 AM (hRzu2)
"Twenty-six percent (26%) say itÂ’s the Tea Party that concerns them most. Among those who Strongly Approve of the president, more fear the Tea Party than radical Muslims."
You become that which you most fear.
Posted by: Meremortal at June 27, 2013 08:07 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 08:07 AM (XIxXP)
This should be kept in mind by other nations as we work our way towards world union. You cannot trust either Europe or the United States.
Posted by: Mr. Happy-Ounce of Prevention, Pound of Cure at June 27, 2013 08:07 AM (Hfjmb)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2013 08:07 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 08:08 AM (BTYNJ)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2013 08:08 AM (UhTsC)
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 08:08 AM (El+h4)
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 27, 2013 08:08 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 08:09 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: zsasz at June 27, 2013 08:09 AM (MMC8r)
I'm plotting my next terrorist move right now.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 27, 2013 12:05 PM (ccXZP)
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Here's your OWS membership badge.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 27, 2013 08:09 AM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 12:07 PM (XIxXP)
I've said for awhile... that I'm NOT a Racist... but I AM a CULTURALIST!
I don't hate you for the color of your skin... I hate you because of how you ACT, what you DO... and those... are choices.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 08:09 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 08:09 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 08:09 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2013 11:59 AM (UhTsC)
I will do so. In my not short life, every fucking second of it has been with this concept of the IRS being this hugely feared monolith in a way that is so far removed from the intentions of the founding fathers that it's ludicrous. Having that change would be as significant as the fall of the Berlin Wall imo.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 27, 2013 08:10 AM (uGVV9)
A radical ,
Jello Eating,
deer hunting,
Stroh's Beer Drinking,
Missouri Synod Lutheran was seen exiting the White House.....
Posted by: Santino at June 27, 2013 08:10 AM (3GuQx)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2013 08:10 AM (g1DWB)
However, among those who approve of the presidentÂ’s job performance,
just 29% see radical Muslims as the bigger threat. Twenty-six percent
(26%) say itÂ’s the Tea Party that concerns them most. Among those who
Strongly Approve of the president, more fear the Tea Party than radical
Muslims.
Truly, a Lost Generation.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 27, 2013 08:11 AM (fIUCx)
They were actually two different groups, but both headed by Drew Ryun.
http://is.gd/4njXJc
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 27, 2013 08:11 AM (/kI1Q)
Oy,
Lawyer now openly suggesting that she didn't immediately contact police because she though that it was "just a fight" that Trayvon started.
Prosecution very agitated.
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 27, 2013 08:11 AM (gZfUw)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2013 12:10 PM (g1DWB)
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And nobody has the courage to call him a liar to his face on camera. Where are all the patriots?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2013 08:12 AM (UhTsC)
Andrew Branca, LOSD @LawSelfDefense 2m #Zimmerman Trial Day 4: Jeantel "That's really retarded, sir." http://is.gd/5HInTk
Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 08:12 AM (codCi)
Posted by: Trayvon Martin at June 27, 2013 08:13 AM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2013 12:12 PM (UhTsC)
It would suggest there are none currently available .
Posted by: willow at June 27, 2013 08:13 AM (nqBYe)
"Twenty-six percent (26%) say itÂ’s the Tea Party that concerns them most. Among those who Strongly Approve of the president, more fear the Tea Party than radical Muslims."
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LIV appears to be contagious.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at June 27, 2013 08:13 AM (EGPJQ)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 08:13 AM (ix+5k)
Posted by: Trayvon Martin at June 27, 2013 08:13 AM (V1ZIU)
However, among those who approve of the presidentÂ’s job performance,
just 29% see radical Muslims as the bigger threat. Twenty-six percent
(26%) say itÂ’s the Tea Party that concerns them most. Among those who
Strongly Approve of the president, more fear the Tea Party than radical
Muslims.
Truly, a Lost Generation.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 27, 2013 12:11 PM (fIUCx)
Actually, they are correct. Radical Islam is not an existential threat to America. They can't invade us... all they can to is cause Pain until we loose our temper and slap them down.
But the TEA party IS an existential threat to the way they WANT the Government to function... as it is made up of honest hardworking COMPETENT Americans... ie... when you wish to destroy a Government, a competent group in opposition to you, is a threat.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 08:14 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 08:14 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 08:14 AM (codCi)
The gentleman was a hard worker who started in maintenance and worked his way up. The letter (which we saved) is two pages of beautiful cursive reminscent of Victorian penmanship, in perfect English, eloquently phrased and quite moving, ending by calling God's blessings down on both of us.
He was educated in mission schools which his family worked hard to pay for.
I am absolutely convinced that the educational establishment of this country, particularly the leftists in universities and social welfare, have destroyed the potential of black children with malicious intent. When you see the witness at Zimmerman's trial, what you are seeing is the end result of evil policies done to create a class which is incapable of anything but taking government money or doing any sort of productive work.
The democrats are in the business of destroying minds and souls.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 27, 2013 08:15 AM (GoIUi)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2013 08:15 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: tony redenzo at June 27, 2013 08:15 AM (LwRkC)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 08:16 AM (aDwsi)
Guess there's no Spread the Word to End the Word Club at her high school.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 27, 2013 08:16 AM (/kI1Q)
But the TEA party IS an existential threat to the way they WANT the Government to function... as it is made up of honest hardworking COMPETENT Americans... ie... when you wish to destroy a Government, a competent group in opposition to you, is a threat.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 12:14 PM (lZBBB)
I concur entirely. It is simply that - I am thinking of how to phrase it.
The least fragmented thought I can formulate out of the quote above is that those individuals who believe the Tea Party a 'threat' to their way of life (even if that is true) are so far gone that they are simply beyond human help.
There is no way for us to bring someone back from being that thoroughly brainwashed. We haven't the capacity.
They have been thoroughly destroyed by Leftist indoctrination, and are lost to us, as a people. It is heartbreaking... and maddening.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 27, 2013 08:16 AM (fIUCx)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 08:17 AM (/PCJa)
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The democrats are in the business of destroying minds and souls.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 27, 2013 12:15 PM (GoIUi)
You have spoken truth.
Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at June 27, 2013 08:17 AM (MnSla)
Posted by: Bob Dole at June 27, 2013 08:17 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 27, 2013 08:17 AM (GoIUi)
Wouldn't it be nice if we had a real media that would be alarmed at those poll numbers? And maybe ask some questions to Jay Carney and Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi about why over a fourth of Democrats believe the Tea Party is a terrorist threat?
This is just amazing. Actual proof that relentless propaganda and the Big Lie work. And pretty much nothing our side can do about it.
Posted by: rockmom at June 27, 2013 08:17 AM (aBlZ1)
The democrats are in the business of destroying minds and souls.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 27, 2013 12:15 PM (GoIUi)
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Democrats used to use plantations, now they use public housing.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2013 08:17 AM (UhTsC)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 08:17 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 08:18 AM (ix+5k)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 27, 2013 08:18 AM (X4HxX)
Now they harvest votes instead of cotton.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 08:18 AM (codCi)
Posted by: tony redenzo at June 27, 2013 08:18 AM (LwRkC)
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 27, 2013 12:15 PM (GoIUi)
Eloquently put, ma'am, and exactly right.
Infuriating, is it not?
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 27, 2013 08:18 AM (fIUCx)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 08:18 AM (ZPrif)
They have been thoroughly destroyed by Leftist indoctrination, and are lost to us, as a people. It is heartbreaking... and maddening.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 27, 2013 12:16 PM (fIUCx)
Which is exactly why the Founders did not want a Democracy. They understood that some people are just idiots, and so limited the PRIVELEGE of Voting...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 08:19 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2013 08:20 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: seaniep at June 27, 2013 08:20 AM (mHol2)
Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 08:20 AM (RZwdH)
Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2013 08:20 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2013 12:20 PM (g1DWB)
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We all know exactly where this leads, and I see no downside to going there.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2013 08:21 AM (UhTsC)
I heard both Kristin Powers and Amy Holmes, both democrats condemn these late term abortions. Americans are solidly against them. The bill ups the standards for places where abortions are taking place, thereby protecting women. What is wrong with the people in Texas that they are storming the state house over this? why is it the democratic process when democrats do it and similar behavior from the tea party or republicans is not considered the democratic process, in fact they are labeled. Although I can't think of a single incident where the tea party or the republicans was characterized as storming anything or anywhere. They politely protest and leave the area cleaner than when they came. Heck, if they could help put away the barriers and mow the lawn and plant new flowers they'd have done it.
Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 08:21 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 08:21 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Waldo at June 27, 2013 08:21 AM (RZwdH)
Posted by: Fact Guy at June 27, 2013 08:21 AM (r98SZ)
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Right now, Hammer hisself isn't so sure who Hammer is. Just a phlegmy, febrile shadow of a guy he used to know.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 08:21 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: The IRS at June 27, 2013 08:21 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 08:22 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Stupid Question at June 27, 2013 08:22 AM (oDCMR)
another case of media malfeasance , but we already knew that.
Posted by: willow at June 27, 2013 08:22 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 08:22 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 08:23 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Bob Dole at June 27, 2013 08:23 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 08:23 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 27, 2013 08:23 AM (Kppp9)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 08:24 AM (bb5+k)
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What Jefferson referred to as, "The Swinish Multitude"
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 08:24 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Thunderb at June 27, 2013 08:24 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: seaniep at June 27, 2013 12:20 PM (mHol2)
why? so you can become a Lawyer... and eventually a Judge... then... when I'm Prezzy.. or King after we go through that Dictator Phase... I can use you to pack the Supreme Court!
Besides.... in order to destroy something... and intelligent man Studies it first (which is why I do believe that Obama studied the Constitution).
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 08:24 AM (lZBBB)
May they all rot in hell.
Posted by: 220, 221, whatever it takes at June 27, 2013 08:24 AM (ukp+x)
This is just amazing. Actual proof that relentless propaganda and the Big Lie work. And pretty much nothing our side can do about it.
This is similar to W's reaction to the lies spread about him for 8 years: dead silence. There is no reason to allow these lies to spread when they are easily refuted with just a bit of truth.
Why is nobody on our side asking "Where is all the TP terrorism? Please show me when and where there was a terrorist attack." on every single interview? And not responding to any other questions until answered? Somebody with a just a modicum of testosterone could turn the tide against the Leftard's propaganda.
Why so cowardly? I don't get it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 27, 2013 08:24 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: willow at June 27, 2013 08:24 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 08:25 AM (ZPrif)
Well, at least they know who their friends are.
Posted by: Jerome at June 27, 2013 08:25 AM (eQa5p)
Do not doubt it.
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 12:22 PM (bb5+k)
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Its worse than that. For three generations, they have been told by the democrats that those who have money stole it from them, and it rightfully belongs to them. When the government cannot continue to hand out money, and that point is coming, they will cut out the middleman of government, and come directly to your house to take what they believe is theirs.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2013 08:25 AM (UhTsC)
You know that requirement's not enforced, right?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at June 27, 2013 08:25 AM (/kI1Q)
And they know it, and now they're lying.
>>>
>>
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Please reveal your source that can establish the veracity of this statement. Or just shut up, like you have been doing about Bengazi, Fast and Furious and whatever scandal du jour has gone of your crappy lunch menu.
Posted by: Drew Diligence at June 27, 2013 08:25 AM (r0Ekx)
Good thing I have a shovel.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 08:26 AM (codCi)
Posted by: seaniep at June 27, 2013 08:26 AM (mHol2)
They will fight us in the streets with fire and bullets to defend that to which they feel entitled. They would massacre the whole lot of us to keep their income and positions.
Do not doubt it.
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 12:22 PM (bb5+k)
I do not doubt it at all, sir, I simply grieve that things have reached such a point.
I think the best metaphor possible for this situation is Elijah at Mount Carmel, and the four hundred fifty prophets of Baal who had led the people astray.
Yes, the people make their own decisions, and are responsible for their own choices - but still, those who had deceived them, wielding them as tools to feed their own power - theirs was the greater condemnation.
So it is today.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 27, 2013 08:26 AM (fIUCx)
Posted by: Fact Guy at June 27, 2013 08:26 AM (r98SZ)
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 08:27 AM (El+h4)
http://tinyurl.com/osa5fs2
Now that I think on it, we should deploy some to ready for the end of the Zimmerman trial.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 27, 2013 08:27 AM (dV6An)
Posted by: Waterhouse
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I am not so vulgar as the cat. Actually, I'm begging to suspect the evil little bugger is trying to poison me with some kind of toxic cat dander. But perhaps I am only being paranoid.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 08:27 AM (aDwsi)
People of the world! Vote in American Elections and suck them down the way you do your own hell holes.
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 12:24 PM (bb5+k)
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They have already done that with motor voter. I guarantee you there were more than a quarter million illegal votes in 2012.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2013 08:27 AM (UhTsC)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 08:27 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 08:27 AM (BTYNJ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:22 PM (/PCJa)
Very simple ... if you wish to vote, you will take a test on basic political questions.
Who controls the House? Who controls the Senate? What is the second Amendment?
You do not pass? you do not vote.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 08:28 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Bob Dole at June 27, 2013 08:29 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at June 27, 2013 12:06 PM (r+7wo)
Yes, yes it does. The seeming inability of the Republican Party to grasp this fact grates on the nerves no end. Romney's campaign, for all of its focus groups and highly paid consultants, was unable to put out a single TV spot that was equal to or better than a routine dish soap commercial. Clint Eastwood's impromptu empty chair routine was better than anything anyone could've deliberately produced and was viewed with horror and mortification by Ryan and others at the convention.
Stupid party, stupid party, stupid party. Ironically, the Right has more raw creative talent than anything the Left can throw out there. One David Mamet, for example, trumps an army of Adam Sorkins. It's infuriating.
Posted by: troyriser at June 27, 2013 08:29 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 27, 2013 08:29 AM (V1ZIU)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 08:29 AM (/PCJa)
Hummm...off to Urban Dictionary to see if this has some hidden ...sexual meaning.
Posted by: Paladin at June 27, 2013 08:29 AM (QGbEp)
I heard both Kristin Powers and Amy Holmes, both democrats condemn these late term abortions. Americans are solidly against them. The bill ups the standards for places where abortions are taking place, thereby protecting women. What is wrong with the people in Texas that they are storming the state house over this? why is it the democratic process when democrats do it and similar behavior from the tea party or republicans is not considered the democratic process, in fact they are labeled. Although I can't think of a single incident where the tea party or the republicans was characterized as storming anything or anywhere. They politely protest and leave the area cleaner than when they came. Heck, if they could help put away the barriers and mow the lawn and plant new flowers they'd have done it.
Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 12:21 PM (/b8+5)
Manners are for people who do not lust after the death of infants.
It was no shock to me that those protestors behaved as they did. I cracked a grin at the situation really, grim though it may sound. I mean, really, one fine day you've got to stand before God and answer for things like that.
No idea why folks put themselves in such a situation. Patently astonishing.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 27, 2013 08:29 AM (fIUCx)
Posted by: ward at June 27, 2013 08:29 AM (SPaCH)
Posted by: willow at June 27, 2013 12:24 PM (nqBYe)
Is That the same? Were Progressive groups information Handed over to the Rights political action groups By the IRS handlers?
Posted by: willow at June 27, 2013 08:29 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 08:29 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 27, 2013 08:29 AM (dV6An)
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 12:28 PM (lZBBB)
To be honest, I couldn't tell you who controls the house, because it certainly isn't John Boehner and the republicans....
(Also I can easily ID amendments 1-5, and 10. 6, 7, 8, 9 I always find a bit more complicated to pull from memory.)
Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 08:29 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at June 27, 2013 08:29 AM (V3kRK)
573 melt down or render?
I denounce myself
Posted by: grognard at June 27, 2013 12:12 PM (/29Nl)
I literally spewed on my keyboard. Asshole!
Posted by: platija de asalto now using BING and duckduckgo instead of google at June 27, 2013 08:29 AM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 08:30 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 27, 2013 08:30 AM (pLTLS)
That's a tactical problem for them. We don't care about their streets, and will let them burn (again). If they want to come to our streets, the wide open spaces are far more conductive to 30-06 then cheesy 9mms.
Posted by: Jean at June 27, 2013 08:30 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 08:30 AM (XIxXP)
understood that some people are just idiots, and so limited the
PRIVELEGE of Voting...
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What Jefferson referred to as, "The Swinish Multitude"
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 12:24 PM (aDwsi) >>>
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Insinuating the entire class of women as a "swinish multitude"sounds a lot better than "stupid bitches" don't it?
Posted by: The Libertarian Conscience at June 27, 2013 08:30 AM (r0Ekx)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 08:30 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 12:27 PM (aDwsi)
It isn't paranoia if they're actually out to get you. o.o
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 27, 2013 08:31 AM (fIUCx)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 27, 2013 08:31 AM (ZPrif)
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The counter-argument is always: "Everyone pays taxes" , meaning federal excise taxes and etc.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 08:31 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 08:32 AM (7mQyC)
I have a vision of your test evolving over time. There may be a transitional period where it is a test on the benefits of Keynesian economics but ultimately it will become a quiz about the most recent episode of West Wing.
Posted by: SpongeBob ReaverSaget at June 27, 2013 08:32 AM (epxV4)
Why is nobody on our side asking "Where is all the TP terrorism? Please show me when and where there was a terrorist attack." on every single interview? And not responding to any other questions until answered? Somebody with a just a modicum of testosterone could turn the tide against the Leftard's propaganda.
Why so cowardly? I don't get it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at June 27, 2013 12:24 PM (0HooB)
Look no further than that fat fuck Rove for why GWB didn't fire back at his critics. It was shameful in his second term how he didn't level with the American people about, among other things, the progress of the war which, during his first term, Karen Hughes made fucking A well sure he got off his dead ass and did it. But that twat Rove was too busy building his permanent repuke majority with RINO candidates and shamnesty.garbage and didn't want GWB to get out of his happy place; which led to all the fucking electoral disasters until 2010.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 27, 2013 08:32 AM (uGVV9)
Posted by: Mike Hammar's cat at June 27, 2013 08:33 AM (/kI1Q)
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Women? Who said anything about 'women'?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 08:33 AM (aDwsi)
POLL TAX!!!!!
Posted by: Eric Holder at June 27, 2013 08:33 AM (AmWlQ)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 08:34 AM (ix+5k)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 08:34 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: zsasz at June 27, 2013 08:34 AM (MMC8r)
I'm going to die of high blood pressure before I even hit thirty.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 27, 2013 08:34 AM (fIUCx)
Posted by: John Roberts at June 27, 2013 08:35 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 08:35 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:30 PM (/PCJa)
Yeah but your proposal of "must pay taxes" would just be declared a "poll tax" (also unconstitutional)
Posted by: tsrblke at June 27, 2013 08:35 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 12:12 PM (codCi)
I hope defense counsel immediately moved to qualify her as an expert witness on the relative retardation of opinions.
*denounces self*
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 27, 2013 08:36 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:30 PM (/PCJa)
Yep... because the first thing you need to do is take the blatantly stupid idea that voting is a RIGHT, out of the constitution.
Rights you can do without any Government... you can speak... you can have property... you have the right to defend yourself..
But voting is something that devolves from our system of Government. You cannot VOTE unless the Government allows you to... thus, it is not a RIGHT...
So to stop the incursion of the Free Shit Army... we would have to amend the Constitution anyway.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 08:36 AM (lZBBB)
Yep, this. Rove thought (or claimed to think- I'm not convinced his "advice" is nothing more than a long-term false flag operation) that GWB would be better served by being "above the fray" and by "not engaging the lies."
Of course, anyone who has ever been in High School knows this is not the way to preserve your reputation.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:35 PM (/PCJa)
Glad that I'm not the only one who's wondered if the bastard is a Democrat plant.
All his sage advice goes towards destroying what little strength is left in the Right. At a certain point, you've got to move past the idea of incompetence and consider enemy action. >_>
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 27, 2013 08:36 AM (fIUCx)
Just ponder the use of Klingon pain sticks on the prosecutor and judge in the Zimmerman trial.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 27, 2013 08:36 AM (dV6An)
It would be interesting to see in the archives starting late 2007 what some of us posted with the looming election and how close some of were to nailing the possibility of the damage this present POSCIC could do....
not that it matters much. I'm sure he has far exceeded any of our worse projections......and keeps upping the ante on an almost daily basis now.
2016/1984.....should we be free that long......Could go all "Mad Max" well before that, given the present trend....Hey!! Lets archive this post for 2015!
wish I was joking........
Posted by: richard at June 27, 2013 08:36 AM (3Z8Cy)
The Media helps the left hold them down. How many Black US Senators? 1 and he is a Conservative who rejected the plantation.
Posted by: Jackj at June 27, 2013 08:36 AM (4WesI)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 08:37 AM (/PCJa)
As Rush Limbaugh said of him, "Whenever Obama enters a room, he is always the dumbest guy in there."
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 12:30 PM (bb5+k)
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That's like a plumber calling a brain surgeon an overpriced hack. Limbaugh would have made a great sportscaster - for tee-ball games.
Posted by: The Conservative members of the Harvard Law Review at June 27, 2013 08:37 AM (r0Ekx)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 12:34 PM (bb5+k)
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We fought a revolution over taxation without representation, while now we have representation without taxation.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2013 08:37 AM (UhTsC)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 08:37 AM (7mQyC)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 08:37 AM (BTYNJ)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 08:37 AM (bb5+k)
HAVE skin in the game. Posted by: rickb223
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The same counter-argument is always made..., even people who do not own property pay taxes in some guise. I AGREE with you, BTW, I just don't know how to make the argument in a convincing way to populists.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 08:37 AM (aDwsi)
OUT = "Profiling" Muslim Terrorists
IN = BOLO Lists!
"I'm going to stop what I was going to say, except to say one thing," said Rep. McDermott. "I don't think BOLO lists should be thrown out. Every time I get on a United Airlines flight to go home Seattle, before it leaves the ground, the first officer leaves the cockpit and goes down with a BOLO list. He is on the lookout for a lot of things on that plane. We use it to organize your thinking. The American College of Surgeons has just adopted BOLO lists before they take somebody into surgery there is a whole long checklist of things that they look at in anticipation before they put you under anesthesia before you do surgery. We think that's the way you organize your thinking. And it is clear to me that a Be On the Look Out list is a good idea. So don't say you are going to though them away--other you'll become the DMV in Seattle... You will have a long line of people because they are not organized. And if you take 292 or 298 one at a time and don't organize your thinking, it doesn't make any sense. I want you to be careful about how you reorganize."
Posted by: Eric Holder at June 27, 2013 08:37 AM (AmWlQ)
Posted by: Ricky Henderson at June 27, 2013 08:37 AM (FbDCr)
Posted by: Pee Pee at June 27, 2013 08:38 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: Ray Lewis at June 27, 2013 08:38 AM (FcR7P)
Just ponder the use of Klingon pain sticks on the prosecutor and judge in the Zimmerman trial.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 27, 2013 12:36 PM (dV6An)
*slugs back the excedrin and water* And in all seriousness, I think I will indeed go grab some excedrin. -_-
Pain sticks, yes. Lots of pain sticks. Also, honey, and fire ants.
Hungry, angry fire ants.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at June 27, 2013 08:38 AM (fIUCx)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at June 27, 2013 08:38 AM (hvrnY)
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I've noticed that every day as well.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 12:32 PM (7mQyC)
Zimmerman's counsel is terrible. No criminal attorney's were willing to take the case? What were they afraid their careers would be affected?
He was supposed to take the deal they offered. It appears, when he didn't, they feel all bets are off.
Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 08:38 AM (/b8+5)
Not like john was poor growing up, Daddy was a Admiral
Posted by: Jackj at June 27, 2013 08:38 AM (4WesI)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 27, 2013 08:38 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 08:39 AM (ix+5k)
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How do you defeat people who will lie, smear, cheat, and steal, and who have 90% of the media in the bag for them?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 08:39 AM (aDwsi)
AlextheChick how was the chocolate cake?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 27, 2013 08:39 AM (dV6An)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 08:39 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2013 08:39 AM (FcR7P)
by the way, it's not "lying" -- it's more like the "reality based community" seeing things through their Marx colored glasses.
With funhouse mirrors. It is their nature of "truthiness".
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 27, 2013 08:39 AM (ujg0T)
Very simple ... if you wish to vote, you will take a test on basic political questions.
Who controls the House? Who controls the Senate? What is the second Amendment?
You do not pass? you do not vote.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 12:28 PM (lZBBB)
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And who controls the questions? Therein lies the rub. You know eventually they would be corrupted some the Dems would write the poll questions and we would be worse off than now.
Posted by: Johnnyreb at June 27, 2013 08:39 AM (6McTJ)
"I am the state."
"After me, le luge."
"Will no one rid me of these troublesome peasants?"
"It is good to be king."
"Do you know who I am?"
"I am the GOD of Hell FIRE, and I bring you FIRE!"
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 27, 2013 08:40 AM (68O14)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 27, 2013 08:40 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Jackj at June 27, 2013 08:40 AM (4WesI)
Posted by: The Libertarian Conscience
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Women? Who said anything about 'women'?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 12:33 PM (aDwsi)
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Oh - I'm sorry - I thought there was an ammendment in the 1920's granting stupid bitches the "privelege" to vote. You're saying that it was granted by the enlightened and infallible founding fathers. Thanks for the update.
Posted by: The Conservative members of the Harvard Law Review at June 27, 2013 08:40 AM (r0Ekx)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 12:37 PM (aDwsi)
Note... I currently own no PROPERTY... although I am a Small business owner, Veteran, who pays taxes.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 08:41 AM (lZBBB)
You keep repeating this....you have no proof of any of it.
Posted by: Tami at June 27, 2013 12:40 PM (X6akg)
You need proof now for an opinion?
Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 08:41 AM (/b8+5)
Looks like the "progressives" got the Spanish Inquisition Treatment, Monty Python style, fluffy pillow, comfy chair and a back rub thrown in for good measure. Because the Chosen have to be comfortable while they are doing the work of making sure enough fetus blood is spilled every day to sate Moloch' bottomless appetite for death.
While the Tea Party got locked in an Iron Maiden for six hours, hanged, drawn and quartered, and then had their remains burned and scattered amongst the hogs, just to be safe. Because witches much be treated roughly, right?
Posted by: Sharkman at June 27, 2013 08:41 AM (03IDC)
Apparently that's the fight at the moment.
To be fair to the poor person who had to transcribe that interview, there's every chance the transcript is wrong. Who the hell can figure out what she's saying?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 27, 2013 08:41 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 08:42 AM (mvenn)
"He who controls the news controls the universe."
"The News must flow"
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at June 27, 2013 08:42 AM (68O14)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 08:42 AM (ix+5k)
It is the best place to learn what wet grass sounds like.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 08:42 AM (codCi)
Ricky's Schtick would be a good name for one of those restaurants with memorabilia on the walls and waitresses who are mandated to wear fiteen pieces of flair.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 27, 2013 08:42 AM (Kppp9)
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 08:43 AM (El+h4)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 27, 2013 08:43 AM (dV6An)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 08:43 AM (/PCJa)
"I know that what you all are doing here isnÂ’t always easy," the first lady said to applause. "I know that some of you may be the first in your families to attend a school like Martin Luther King, so there might be people at home who donÂ’t quite understand what youÂ’re going through as you work to succeed here.....I know a little bit about this from my own experience. See, like many of you, I didnÂ’t grow up in a family with a lot of money....."
Shorter Michelle: It's all about me, me, me!
Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2013 08:43 AM (AmWlQ)
Oh dear God
Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 08:43 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 27, 2013 08:43 AM (X4HxX)
Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 08:44 AM (GQ8sn)
Pixy patch I think. I did nothing to save myself from the barrel.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 08:44 AM (codCi)
Posted by: Jean at June 27, 2013 08:44 AM (CMlD4)
Ricky's Schtick would be a good name for one of those restaurants with memorabilia on the walls and waitresses who are mandated to wear fiteen pieces of flair.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 27, 2013 12:42 PM (Kppp9)
Or a San Francisco Bath House?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2013 08:44 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 27, 2013 12:37 PM (UhTsC)
Exactly what I was about to say.
Posted by: real joe at June 27, 2013 08:45 AM (0V5f3)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 27, 2013 08:45 AM (dV6An)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at June 27, 2013 08:45 AM (8JJ6O)
The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be noble.
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1032.htm
Posted by: Mallfly at June 27, 2013 08:45 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at June 27, 2013 08:45 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 08:45 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: tired at June 27, 2013 08:45 AM (adOUE)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 27, 2013 08:45 AM (X4HxX)
you remind me of rachel jeantel
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at June 27, 2013 12:45 PM (8JJ6O)
Really, what proof do you have that I"m a total bigot?
Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 08:46 AM (/b8+5)
Andrew's missing the obvious, she starting to tweak.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 08:46 AM (codCi)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 08:46 AM (7mQyC)
Of course, anyone who has ever been in High School knows this is not the way to preserve your reputation.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 27, 2013 12:35 PM (/PCJa)
John Adams was wrong. There are three reasons why Vice Presidents are useful:
1. They can serve as vicious partisan attack dogs and say the partisan stuff that Presidents want to say but can't. Chaney served this role admirably.
2. They can serve as vicious partisan guard dogs and defend the President against the slurs aimed at him. Spiro Agnew was pretty good at this.
3. They can serve their consitutional functions as President of the Senate and successor to the President if the President is killed, incapacitated, successfully impeached or resigns. But that's just boring and why Adams hated the job so much.
And then, of course, there's the 'heartbeat away' argument that says a President should deliberately choose a complete boob as his Veep so that the whole country is invested in the President's health and well-being. Enter Joe Biden.
Posted by: troyriser at June 27, 2013 08:46 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 08:46 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 08:46 AM (ix+5k)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 08:46 AM (bb5+k)
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Actually, one of my 'You Get To Vote' qualifications goes to any who have served, uh, (some consecutive days of service) , or suffered service connected disability, and has an Honorable Discharge.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 08:46 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 08:47 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 08:47 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 08:47 AM (7mQyC)
Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 12:46 PM (/b8+5)
I think she meant you're an idiot.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 12:47 PM (XIxXP)
Well, it takes one to know one.
Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 08:47 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2013 08:48 AM (ix+5k)
Dee Dee? Ms Jeantel? Ms. Diamond? Thought they warned you about going online?
Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2013 08:48 AM (Fz2C7)
Another memorable quote: "I'd like to thank FoxNews, ClearChannel, Salem Broadcasting and all the caustic, ill-informed, thinly-veiled racism of the conservative blogosphere for this exceptionally easy re-election effort. I luv u guys!
Posted by: The Annotated SCOTUS at June 27, 2013 08:48 AM (r0Ekx)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 27, 2013 08:48 AM (a3iAA)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at June 27, 2013 08:48 AM (8JJ6O)
You could get a Taurus. Posted by: EC
I wouldn't go with a new 1911 if you want to save some cash. The cheaper ones end up needing work. If you insist on new, I would start with RIA (Rock Island Arsenal) a used Taurus that has been shot and performs well would be ok, NIB is a big maybe.
Posted by: Jean at June 27, 2013 08:48 AM (CMlD4)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 08:48 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 27, 2013 08:49 AM (FbDCr)
Posted by: sven10077 at June 27, 2013 08:49 AM (BTYNJ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 27, 2013 08:49 AM (dV6An)
Another night shift be for me so lights out.....
try not to slit your wrists as the day's events unfold.....
Posted by: richard at June 27, 2013 08:49 AM (3Z8Cy)
Posted by: The Conservative members of the Harvard Law Review at June 27, 2013 12:37 PM (r0Ekx)
I'm as far as a Limbaugh shill as you can get but at least he became a success by identifying a market and appealing to it better than his peers at the time. The JEF is the beneficiary of every failed advancement program for underachievers, which his lack of transparency about anything quantifiable in his life illustrates. You don't need any confirmation other than your senses to come to the conclusion that he is substandard in any measure of intelligence.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 27, 2013 08:49 AM (uGVV9)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 08:49 AM (7mQyC)
My goodness, the unbridled wit.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 12:48 PM (XIxXP)
just havin fun, I don't take anything phoennix says seriously. She's a legend in her own mind so I just take that into account.
Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 08:50 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 08:50 AM (El+h4)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 08:50 AM (codCi)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 08:51 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 12:43 PM (El+h4)
Springfield. I have their basic model and it shoots just fine for me.
Posted by: Johnnyreb at June 27, 2013 08:51 AM (6McTJ)
Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2013 12:39 PM (FcR7P)
Yep. And stupid tenants have never voted for lavish municipal projects, which inevitably cause tax increases, which then get passed on to tenants in the form of rent increases. Next go-round, stupid tenants vote for rent controls, which result in dearth of new rental accommodations.
To vote for any level of government, you have to have have skin in the game, according to how that government gets most of its revenue. Municipalities and counties mostly get that from property taxes, so to vote there, you need to own property there. Full stop. You have skin in the game. A tenant can just up and leave if things go pear-shaped. Property owners can't. State and Federal governments get the bulk of their revenue from income taxes, so to vote in those elections, one should be a taxpayer in good standing.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 27, 2013 08:51 AM (fNpC1)
Hence your informed opinion on the job Zimmerman's lawyer is doing.
Posted by: Waterhouse at June 27, 2013 12:49 PM (Kppp9)
I'm reading a lot of twitter feeds on this, I get the gist.
Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 08:51 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at June 27, 2013 08:51 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 08:51 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 08:51 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 12:48 PM (XIxXP)
******
Unbridled? Nay, I say.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 27, 2013 08:51 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at June 27, 2013 08:52 AM (dV6An)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 27, 2013 08:52 AM (X4HxX)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at June 27, 2013 08:52 AM (XIxXP)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at June 27, 2013 08:52 AM (8JJ6O)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 08:52 AM (bb5+k)
"Ok, from my intertubes listening to experts, I've been told to stay away from factory built 1911s, as the 1911 was designed to be hand-built."
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 27, 2013 12:45 PM (X4HxX)
I'm sorry, what? When Colt sold the US Army on Browning's design, I don't think they intended for each firearm to be lovingly and individually crafted by hand by a hand-picked cadre of master gunsmiths, as they do at Les Baer or Kimber nowadays. Stating the obvious, those were mass production guns meant to be made in the thousands, hence the simplicity of design and ready interchangeability of parts.
The military 1911 was emphatically not 'designed to be hand-built'.
Posted by: troyriser at June 27, 2013 08:53 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 08:53 AM (El+h4)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 27, 2013 08:54 AM (X4HxX)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 27, 2013 08:54 AM (FbDCr)
Posted by: mrshad at June 27, 2013 08:54 AM (Xqfwb)
Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 08:55 AM (GQ8sn)
They have a new narrow frame model G-36. Single stack magazine.
I'm seriously considering it for CC. I currently carry a G26 9mm.
Posted by: Mil-Dot at June 27, 2013 08:55 AM (Cs2tJ)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 08:56 AM (7mQyC)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 27, 2013 08:56 AM (X4HxX)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2013 08:57 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 08:57 AM (El+h4)
Is the .454 easier to get these days? That's also a concern. I'd like to have arms that I can make / recycle the rounds for without huge difficulty as well.
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 08:59 AM (El+h4)
Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 08:59 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 08:59 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 27, 2013 12:49 PM (uGVV9)
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Were you one of the conservative members of the Harvard Law Review that elected him to preside over it? Were his grades altered due to his race? Did he only get through Harvard Law by tauting his ancestry? I find it really amusing that people who uncritically supported Dumya for two terms consider Obama a mental midget. That's really a pathetic, ineffectual critique from a group that considers itself objective and insightful.
Posted by: The Conservative Members of the Harvard Law Review at June 27, 2013 08:59 AM (r0Ekx)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 09:00 AM (7mQyC)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 27, 2013 09:01 AM (X4HxX)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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There are a whole host of sticky wickets. For instance, what if you have paid tax your entire life, but now in retirement, you income is below taxable level. Arguably, you have a lifetime of 'skin in the game'..., MUCH more than some who are currently paying taxes.
I'm somewhat inclined to consider a complimentary system, whereby if one *receives* any form of government payment, then one is disallowed the vote. There would have to be exceptions. For instance, retirees who still have a positive balance in their SS account. I might not allow government employees to vote, with the exception of the military. Still thinking about that.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at June 27, 2013 09:02 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 01:00 PM (7mQyC)
Well, if you can't watch the trial, you have to rely on what others are saying about it to at least try to be informed
Posted by: caustic at June 27, 2013 09:03 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 09:03 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 12:57 PM (El+h4)
I think you're getting 'semiautomatic', 'automatic', 'single-action' and 'double-action' confused.
When people refer to a '.45 automatic', they don't mean truly 'automatic'. They mean 'semi-automatic'. Traditional 1911's are single-action (SA) semi-automatics, meaning you have to cock the pistol before you can fire the first round in the chamber (you don't need to cock it again for subsequent shots because the recoil drives back the slide and recocks the hammer). Most 1911 owners who carry carry their pistols 'cocked-and-locked', which means the hammer is cocked back with the safety engaged.
Posted by: troyriser at June 27, 2013 09:04 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 09:05 AM (bb5+k)
Besides, the .380 mag I fired was ridiculously loud and hard to control.
Also the .454 Casull looks like an advanced round that would be hard to manufacture in a bad situation.
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 09:05 AM (El+h4)
Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 09:06 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 09:06 AM (7mQyC)
Posted by: Ragamuffin at June 27, 2013 09:07 AM (fzFF6)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 09:07 AM (7mQyC)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 09:07 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at June 27, 2013 09:08 AM (X4HxX)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at June 27, 2013 09:12 AM (7mQyC)
Posted by: echo RiverC; at June 27, 2013 01:05 PM (El+h4)
'Silly' isn't a word I would use. I own a few revolvers and still occasionally carry my snubby .38 Special. It's amazingly accurate at 5-7 yards, conceals well, feels good in the hand, and is unfailingly reliable.
That 'unfailingly reliable' bit is what I look for most in a defensive weapon. Assuming the ammo is okay, if it fails to go bang every time in practice then I can't trust it and won't carry it. Few concealable semiautomatic pistols can pass that test.
Posted by: troyriser at June 27, 2013 09:12 AM (vtiE6)
It's like an unqualified, ineligible con man [punk ass nigra] getting propped up by the media [nigra lovahs] and launched into a position for which he is completely unfit [cuz he's just a jive-talkin, uppity porch monkey].
Obama is an affirmative action idiot [dumb nig]. He is not intelligent [ignorant jungle bunny], and he is not competent at anything except lying, thieving and corruption [like all ghetto trash].
I suppose that means he isn't even competent at lying and thieving [dumbest jig alive].
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 01:03 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: The Subconscious of Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 09:13 AM (r0Ekx)
Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 01:06 PM (GQ8sn)
Yeah, we called that guy 'No-balls McGinley', a very bitter and frustrated man.
Posted by: troyriser at June 27, 2013 09:13 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 09:13 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: The Conservative Members of the Harvard Law Review at June 27, 2013 12:59 PM (r0Ekx)
Since in this thread I've already criticized GWB, you aren't exactly the gold standard in reading comprehension., But keep making dumbass statements; it's very amusing.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 27, 2013 09:14 AM (uGVV9)
Posted by: The Subconscious of Diogenes' Lamp at June 27, 2013 01:13 PM (r0Ekx)
You're out of line. We're not bigots here. We don't speak in fucking codewords and dog whistles.
Posted by: troyriser at June 27, 2013 09:15 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: EC at June 27, 2013 09:18 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 27, 2013 01:14 PM (uGVV9)
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You were really criticizing Rove, not Dubya, nor his exceptionally high baseline intelligence. And speaking of comprehension, I criticized the group in general -- not you personally or your supposed critique -- that loves them some Dub, but calls Obama stupid. Pretty ironic, on all accounts - your comprehension included.
Posted by: The Conservative Members of the Harvard Law Review at June 27, 2013 09:27 AM (r0Ekx)
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 27, 2013 09:35 AM (uGVV9)
Posted by: Alec Rawls at June 27, 2013 09:36 AM (kTTUz)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 27, 2013 10:32 AM (baL2B)
It's really more of a crime than a victimization, dunderkind.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at June 27, 2013 11:28 AM (codCi)
Oh wait, they were targeted by the BOLO list but were not harassed.
For a moment I thought I had a point but... man I should really just not post here.
Posted by: Alec Bawls at June 27, 2013 11:53 AM (El+h4)
Posted by: Rogue Low-Level Employee at June 27, 2013 01:12 PM (epWQP)
Posted by: JoeC at June 27, 2013 03:55 PM (lcgOK)
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