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October 21, 2013

The Obernight Open Thread (10-21-2013)
— Maetenloch

Well today I was essentially incommunicado with a cell phone that wouldnÂ’t roam and quite possibly the worldÂ’s shittiest and most frustrating internet connection.

I havenÂ’t been this cut off for a long time and I did not like the feelings it brought back. All day long I saw other, happier people googling away, Candy Crushing, and jabbering on their cell phones while I had...nothing. Now I know how the other half feel.

And so of course you must suffer too with this husk of an ONT.

Don't Know Much About History

Meet the products of the modern American University system. Never in history has ignorance been this expensive.

Questioner: What was the Holocaust?

American College Student: UmÂ…IÂ’m on the spot.

Questioner: Which country was Adolf Hitler the leader of?

American College Student: I think itÂ’s Amsterdam?

Questioner: What was Auschwitz?

American College Student: I donÂ’t know.
Questioner: What were the Nuremburg Trials?

American College Student: I donÂ’t know.

Why Did the Nazis Brutally Beat and Kill This 14 Year Old Girl in Auschwitz?

Because she was Polish, Catholic, and they could. And that was enough. Her name was Czesława Kwoka.

Believe It or Not America is More Conservative Now Than It's Been in Half a Century

And this is true across all 50 states with the South showing the most rightward trend.

The first question, reported in the left panel of the figure below, asked whether the government in Washington should see to it that every person has a job and a good standard of living or whether the government should let each person get ahead on their own. The fact that the solid dots (2002) are to the right of the hollow dots (1964) supports the view that all regions of the country became more conservative. Interestingly, in 1964, the South appears to have been the most supportive of the liberal response (the government should ensure a job and a good standard of living). The second question, reported in the right panel, asked whether or not the government in Washington was getting too powerful. Across all regions, we again see opinion has shifted to the right.

What Do Today's College Students Most Desire?

Oppression.

What do AmericaÂ’s college students want? They want to be oppressed. More precisely, a surprising number of students at AmericaÂ’s finest colleges and universities wish to appear as victims Â— to themselves, as well as to others Â— without the discomfort of actually experiencing victimization. Here is where global warming comes in. The secret appeal of campus climate activism lies in its ability to turn otherwise happy, healthy, and prosperous young people into an oppressed class, at least in their own imaginings. Climate activists say to the world, Â“IÂ’ll save you.Â” Yet deep down theyÂ’re thinking, Â“Oppress me.Â”

What is the Riddle of Modern Steel?

Contra Thulsa Doom ConanÂ’s father was more correct.

Fire and wind come from the sky, from the gods of the sky, but Crom is your god. Crom, and he lives in the earth. Once giants lived in the earth, Conan, and in the darkness of chaos, they fooled Crom, and they took from him the enigma of steel. Crom was angered, and the earth shook, and fire and wind struck down these giants, and they threw their bodies into the waters. But in their rage, the gods forgot the secret of steel and left it on the battlefield, and we who found it. We are just men, not gods, not giants, just men. And the secret of steel has always carried with it a mystery. You must learn its riddle, Conan, you must learn its discipline, for no one, no one in this world can you trust, not men, not women, not beasts... This you can trust. [points to his sword]

The riddle of modern steel is that it can be as hard or as soft as you want and a skillful forger can transform it back and forth according to his needs by controlling the temperature and impurities.

How The U.S. Military Plans To Hijack The Airwaves

Guilty Until Proven Innocent: The Reid Interrogation Technique

Tonight's Episode: Cheerleaders and the Haunted House

The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.

And my twitter thang.

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1 Good night

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 21, 2013 06:03 PM (MnSla)

2 frist

Posted by: helofixer at October 21, 2013 06:04 PM (zeLfS)

3 dagnabitt

Posted by: helofixer at October 21, 2013 06:05 PM (zeLfS)

4 id tell that big black student to come to the front so i could pet him

Posted by: meep at October 21, 2013 06:05 PM (Y2x0b)

5 Parents Not Allowed to Feed Their Own Children Without Government's Permission A mother of a pre-schooler was informed by the child's school that she was prohibited from providing lunch for her own child by the Â“Federal Programs Preschool,Â” and that if there was any problem, she would need to contact the Health Coordinator for the Federal Programs Preschool! More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=3741

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 21, 2013 06:05 PM (XvHmy)

6 Hola, amigoz en los tuboz!

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 06:06 PM (T1005)

7 I don't get it.

Posted by: Mama winger on her iPad at October 21, 2013 06:06 PM (P6QsQ)

8 From Germany for sure... and just too freaking edgy... Needs more vanilla...

Posted by: Yip at October 21, 2013 06:07 PM (/jHWN)

9 I love that ignorant college student suggests that the Nazis discriminated against African-Americans. I wonder how many African AMERICANS they think were living in Germany.

Posted by: creationwaits at October 21, 2013 06:08 PM (CVVLU)

10 Nth!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 21, 2013 06:08 PM (5J54Q)

11 nice doggy.

Posted by: davidt at October 21, 2013 06:09 PM (rkewj)

12 4 id tell that big black student to come to the front so i could pet him

Posted by: meep at October 21, 2013 10:05 PM (Y2x0b)

Racist!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 06:09 PM (T1005)

13 A dog!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 06:10 PM (DmNpO)

Questioner: Which country was Adolf Hitler the leader of?

American College Student: I think itÂ’s Amsterdam?

Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe.

Posted by: Thulsa Doom at October 21, 2013 06:10 PM (GJc4d)

15 Some saw news stories about a proposed Interstate 11, Phoenix to Vegas. Eventually, over the course of many decades, it would extend north to Reno and beyond. Speaking of interstates that don't exist. California is building high speed rail in Fresno. Maybe building an interstate first would be a better use of resources.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 06:10 PM (ZPrif)

16
Sticky: Guest Posts Should Be Completely Noncontroversial

How 'bout this? "Killing Puppies -- It Doesn't Bother Me" ... That's me, Frank Noland, and I LIKE dead puppies!

Frankly, I'm totally in favor of using federally supported municipal bonds to pay for forced busing of Soviet Communists to come into your homes to kill your puppies! Give me a call, won't you? The lines are open. Tell ME what you think about it.

http://tinyurl.com/lbcpcwj

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 21, 2013 06:11 PM (kdS6q)

17 Oahu has three interstate highways.

Posted by: davidt at October 21, 2013 06:12 PM (rkewj)

The riddle of modern steel is that it can be as hard or as soft as you want and a skillful forger can transform it back and forth according to his needs by controlling the temperature and impurities.

Of course, it can still warp in the quench! (grumble, grumble)

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 21, 2013 06:12 PM (HsT3S)

19 #4 needs to go

Posted by: L, elle at October 21, 2013 06:13 PM (0PiQ4)

20 Kyriarchy and the Supreme Court One of the dimensions of Â“KyriarchyÂ” and the belief in Â“White PrivilegeÂ” is that White people are innately racist while non-Whites can never be racist. As a corollary, this means that non-Whites are always victims of racism while Whites can never be victims of racism. This is, of course, patently absurd. But it is this delusional ideology that declares that racial equality is not only innately discriminatory, but actually in violation of the ConstitutionÂ’s guarantee of equality under the law, and thus racist! The Supreme Court recently heard arguments over the case of Schuette v. BAMN, where a ban on racial discrimination is being challenged as being Unconstitutional! More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=3751

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 21, 2013 06:13 PM (XvHmy)

21 "The riddle of modern steel is that it can be as hard or as soft as you want and a skillful forger can transform it back and forth according to his needs by controlling the temperature and impurities." But steel isn't strong, boy. Flesh is stronger!

Posted by: Thulsa Doom at October 21, 2013 06:13 PM (ZyqBH)

22 >>>#4 needs to go Check the last pic. Carefully.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 21, 2013 06:14 PM (eQJwb)

23 L, elle

Dog. Picture. Not. Race.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at October 21, 2013 06:14 PM (MnSla)

24 So apparently Putin is building a trans-siberian railroad:

http://tinyurl.com/k7p8whn

And tomorrow I take a Security+ exam. Required for my next job, despite years of experience.

Plus, soon we'll send our proposal to get an Artist for the new Video Game.

Posted by: RiverC at October 21, 2013 06:14 PM (9hUiB)

25 Steel is strong, fire can't melt it.

Posted by: Rosie at October 21, 2013 06:14 PM (rkewj)

26 Nvrmnd. Shit. I need a drink

Posted by: L, elle at October 21, 2013 06:14 PM (0PiQ4)

27 I found the kitteh in the picture.

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 06:15 PM (AO9UG)

28 17 Oahu has three interstate highways. I-27 runs from Amarillo to Lubbock, TX. Never leaves the state.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 21, 2013 06:15 PM (5J54Q)

29 >>>26 Nvrmnd. Shit. I need a drink *Pours dirty martini into USB port.*

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 21, 2013 06:16 PM (eQJwb)

30 Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe.

Don't you mean the Tree of Whoa!?

Posted by: Ted Theodore Logan at October 21, 2013 06:16 PM (eAY4A)

31 The picture of that little girl. Haunting. Let's not repeat that.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 21, 2013 06:16 PM (4Mv1T)

32 I love that ignorant college student suggests that the Nazis discriminated against African-Americans. I wonder how many African AMERICANS they think were living in Germany.

Posted by: creationwaits at October 21, 2013 10:08 PM (CVVLU)

Well, Hitler was a little rude to Jesse Owens.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 21, 2013 06:16 PM (60Q+L)

33 One of my sisters was a travel agent many Moons ago. One day a client came in and said he wanted to take a cruise to Las Vegas. Teh Stupid is nothing new.

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 06:17 PM (AO9UG)

34 The riddle of modern steel is that it can be as hard or as soft as you want and a skillful forger can transform it back and forth according to his needs by controlling the temperature and impurities.

Factoid: US Steel researched and documented over 200 different crystalline forms steel could be made into...over 50 years ago.

It truly is a wonder material.

I have a book on more primitive cast iron and its metallurgical characteristics...its over 2" thick, fine print.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 06:17 PM (l5zzX)

35 Also, the irony of the holocaust is as follows (as best I understand

1. The Ashkenazy (sp?) Jews have been found to be not genetically Jewish, but genetically (most likely) German.
2. While the Nazis preyed on the Jews because they had wealth (they taught the Turks to do the same thing to the reasonable wealthy Armenians) they claimed a racial purpose behind the killings
3. A reasonable proportion of the Jews that they persecuted were probably Ashkenazy
4. Realistically, Germans were just killing Germans because some of those Germans called themselves Jews

Nazism is not known for its brilliance per se

Posted by: RiverC at October 21, 2013 06:17 PM (9hUiB)

36 Ogg , find Waldo in last picture .

Posted by: Ogg at October 21, 2013 06:17 PM (5wdHt)

37 I was looking and looking in that pic for pointy elbows and boobies... and I finally gave up.... All the way from Germany and no fun.

Posted by: Yip at October 21, 2013 06:18 PM (/jHWN)

38 The riddle of modern steel is that it can be as hard or as soft as you want and a skillful forger can transform it back and forth according to his needs by controlling the temperature and impurities.

I'd say the bigger riddle of steel is how did the British school system get this screwed up? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gjHmEUiaxo

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 06:18 PM (T1005)

39 The riddle of modern steel>>

Face center cubic vs Body center cubic What lock do you want?

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 06:18 PM (okL9f)

40 Steel is strong, fire can't melt it. Posted by: Rosie ----------------------------- But it can bend it. I worked in a 100 year old warehouse where the very wide wood ceiling joists were fire rated longer than steel beams.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 21, 2013 06:18 PM (4Mv1T)

41 >>> I found the kitteh in the picture. That's a kitteh? I need to two drinks. Thanks DC.

Posted by: L, elle at October 21, 2013 06:18 PM (0PiQ4)

42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaDo9PyCeLQ

The Holoaust interview with the college students reminds me of this clip. For it is the doom of men that they forget.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 06:18 PM (kcfmt)

43 That mutt is the only one paying attention.. having said that The smell of doom is in the Air... I am so glad the country under the Bammy will start to look like Detroit over the next 3 years.. Share the Pride..

Posted by: Clemenza at October 21, 2013 06:19 PM (70CRT)

44 Peaches if u transition to this thread no not buddy my previous dog Brannigan. He ate the whole floss box. I was pretty worried about the little metal piece too but that passed through as well. And no it wasn't pleasant confirming that!

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at October 21, 2013 06:19 PM (RZ8pf)

45 I think Interstate 22, from Memphis to Birmingham is supposed to finally be completed in 2014.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 06:19 PM (ZPrif)

46 17 Oahu has three interstate highways.
Posted by: davidt

Which one goes to Molokai?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 21, 2013 06:19 PM (80R0X)

47 One day a client came in and said he wanted to take a cruise to Las Vegas. Teh Stupid is nothing new. *** Worked for a railroad. We had people call up regularly and ask for rates to Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 06:19 PM (DmNpO)

48 They "wish to appear as victims Â— to themselves, as well as to others Â— without the discomfort of actually experiencing victimization." Which is to say that want to be justified, to feel good about themselves morally. And the easiest way to do this today is to be a "victim." Victims are innocent, like animals. Humans are morally responsible, that is, they must respond to a standard transcending themselves. That sounds like work.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 21, 2013 06:20 PM (dfYL9)

49 Come to me, child.

Posted by: Thulsa Choom at October 21, 2013 06:20 PM (QupBk)

50 Maet, where are you? Bavaria, I hope.

Posted by: L, elle at October 21, 2013 06:20 PM (0PiQ4)

51 Of course, it can still warp in the quench! (grumble, grumble)>>

Making blades from a Stainless?

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 06:20 PM (okL9f)

52 I've never taught my home schooled kids about the holocaust specifically (partly because my daughter is *very* sensitive and I don't want to crush her) but I asked her the questions that lady asked the students and she got every one of them right except for the importance of the St. Louis (which I didn't know either.) Not bad for a bunch of knuckle dragging, mouth breathing hillbillies. I guess all that reading pays off.

Posted by: Miss Scarlett at October 21, 2013 06:21 PM (e0nsQ)

53 >>>I need to two drinks. Tequila it is then! *pours* Besides, I'm pretty sure that critter is some form of weasel.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 21, 2013 06:21 PM (eQJwb)

I bet the dog represents a better return on the investment for tuition than Sandra Fluke.

Evening morons.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 21, 2013 06:21 PM (sQ0LB)

55 I hope Maet's plane isn't diverted to Peruvia. Again.

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 06:22 PM (AO9UG)

56 Awwww...it's a puppy....

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at October 21, 2013 06:22 PM (MhA4j)

57 Also, moar Conan quotes!!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 21, 2013 06:22 PM (sQ0LB)

58 One day a client came in and said he wanted to take a cruise to Las Vegas.

Graboid towed sand schooners

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 06:22 PM (l5zzX)

59 The riddle of modern steel

Wait... I know this one.

Posted by: Conan at October 21, 2013 06:22 PM (eAY4A)

60 Worked for a railroad. We had people call up regularly and ask for rates to Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 10:19 PM (DmNpO)

"I'm sorry, sir. All trains for Puerto Rico are canceled. Tracks are flooded."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 21, 2013 06:23 PM (60Q+L)

61 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 21, 2013 06:23 PM (JMmQ9)

62 Bejeezus. The stoopid. It hurts. Jeff Flake ‏@JeffFlake 10m Oh, big brother... HUD says AZ aprtmt complex built for the deaf has too many deaf occupants http://t.co/4iQz3SK2nb

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 06:24 PM (DmNpO)

63 "I'm sorry, sir. All trains for Puerto Rico are canceled. Tracks are flooded."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 21, 2013 10:23 PM (60Q+L)

Take the tunnel.

Posted by: Travel Agent at October 21, 2013 06:24 PM (rkewj)

64 On the wanting to be a victim. How does one wish for the experience of laying back and thinking of Britain?

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 06:25 PM (okL9f)

65 A Good Evening to the Horde !!!!

Posted by: Pissed off taxpayer at October 21, 2013 06:25 PM (PwoXD)

66 >>I bet the dog represents a better return on the investment for tuition than Sandra Fluke. And the dog is less hairy, better looking and smells better.

Posted by: Aviator at October 21, 2013 06:25 PM (DI+ja)

67 "I'm sorry, sir. All trains for Puerto Rico are canceled. Tracks are flooded." *** Permanently!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 06:25 PM (DmNpO)

68 "I'm sorry, sir. All trains for Puerto Rico are canceled. Tracks are flooded." Take the El.

Posted by: Thulsa Choom at October 21, 2013 06:25 PM (QupBk)

69 Maet writes: "Believe It or Not America is More Conservative Now Than It's Been in Half a Century" When a bus is speeding along without a care, people don't worry about the brakes. As they notice the bridge is out up ahead, they start getting interested in brakes. I personally think that at this point it's too late for brakes. Now we need brakes and retro rockets.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 06:26 PM (bb5+k)

70 Oh, since I didn't get to stay and play last night--Mrs. Crank is due late May/early June, and thanks for all the well-wishes.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 21, 2013 06:26 PM (sQ0LB)

71 The funny thing about supposed "White Skin Privilege" is that it is an idea pushed by .....actual privileged white people, liberals and commies, as a way to keep minorities angry and agitated, the better to stir them up when they need to be stirred up to push the liberal agenda through...why do you think second or third generation immigrants are more radical than their parents and grandparents who came here? They are TAUGHT to be that way---by privileged white college profs....

Posted by: JoeyBagels at October 21, 2013 06:26 PM (Usdw3)

72 Steel cannot be bent.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 21, 2013 06:26 PM (4/o9U)

73 The riddle of steel: Crush your valence electrons, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the carbon.

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 06:26 PM (AO9UG)

74 DC, no way, put away that tequila. That is the only liquor I have consumed that made me sick. Even the good stuff is crap. It's made from dirt and cactus I think and tastes like it.

Posted by: L, elle at October 21, 2013 06:27 PM (0PiQ4)

75 Remember the ending to Thelma and Louise?

That's us today.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 06:27 PM (l5zzX)

76 Mrs. Crank is due late May/early June, and thanks for all the well-wishes. *** That's good timing. She won't be at her most plump during the hottest time of the year.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 06:27 PM (DmNpO)

77 Good Evening Morons and 'Ettes !!!! God Bless the Horde

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at October 21, 2013 06:27 PM (PwoXD)

Took a while for me to see it but I wonder what his class notes say, probably woof, woof woof

1) woof

2) woof

3) woof

Yes, this will be on the test

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 06:27 PM (/oZbq)

79 60 Worked for a railroad. We had people call up regularly and ask for rates to Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 10:19 PM (DmNpO)

"I'm sorry, sir. All trains for Puerto Rico are canceled. Tracks are flooded."

THAT is hilarious. I am from Puerto Rico!

Posted by: annalissema at October 21, 2013 06:29 PM (uW+NQ)

80 A banana?

Posted by: Freaked Out! at October 21, 2013 06:29 PM (xhhsI)

81 Speaking of class notes my son was taught the "Cornell note taking" system today in school. I had no idea there were whole theories around how best to take notes in class until I looked up what the bejesus "Cornell note taking" was.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at October 21, 2013 06:29 PM (RZ8pf)

82 In California white people are a minority. And yet do not qualify for grants or set-asides for minority-owned businesses. In Detroit whites are a distinct minority, and yet do not qualify for city contracts for minority owned businesses.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 06:29 PM (ZPrif)

83 9 I love that ignorant college student suggests that the Nazis discriminated against African-Americans. I wonder how many African AMERICANS they think were living in Germany. Posted by: creationwaits at October 21, 2013 10:08 PM (CVVLU) That rolled right off her tongue, huh? She can regurgitate 'WHITE AMERICANS KEPT DOWN THE BLACK MAN' but nothing else.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 06:30 PM (bCEmE)

84 I am so glad the country under the Bammy will start to look like Detroit over the next 3 years.. Share the Pride.. Posted by: Clemenza at October 21, 2013 10:19 PM (70CRT) I shit you not. Today I followed a link to Forbes magazine in which the Business editor said Obama was the greatest economic President since Ronald Reagan. I was dumbfounded. http://preview.tinyurl.com/l3w6lvz WTF is the matter with this guy?

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 06:30 PM (bb5+k)

85 Just read that the teacher killed in Nevada today was a Marine. Looks like he put himself in the line to protect the kids. Last full measure. Sounds like the fellow is a hero today, even as he was overseas. Godspeed, Marine.

Posted by: knob at October 21, 2013 06:30 PM (H1bc7)

86 Speaking of "White privilege," a Portland educational expert declares that peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are RAAAAACIST!!1! http://tinyurl.com/mn34suz A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ZAGBL6UBA

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 21, 2013 06:30 PM (XvHmy)

87 Polish kid only made it 3 months in the camp.

Posted by: NCKate at October 21, 2013 06:30 PM (83KrV)

88 Bucs cheerleaders never disappoint with teh boobehs

Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2013 06:30 PM (aTXUx)

89 Holy crap. I just watched that entire clip.. we are raising a generations of imbeciles. My heart is just sad right now.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at October 21, 2013 06:30 PM (u25eL)

90 #52

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075406/?ref_=nv_sr_1

This 1976 movie made a lot more people aware of it, including many who regarded FDR as a secular saint.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 06:30 PM (kcfmt)

91 I-27 runs from Amarillo to Lubbock, TX. Never leaves the state. Posted by: Captain --------------------------------- I can be there by morning.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 21, 2013 06:30 PM (aDwsi)

92 Fresno, CA is the largest metro without an interstate in America. But CA wants to spend $100B to give it (sorta) high speed rail. Genius.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 06:31 PM (ZPrif)

93 THAT is hilarious. I am from Puerto Rico! *** It was the darndest thing. Nobody ever asked for rates to the Bahamas or to Bermuda, just Puerto rico.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 06:31 PM (DmNpO)

94 My son is very interested in the Holocaust and not because of anything I suggested to him or what he learned in public school. He just finished reading Primo Levi's book about being in a concentration camp. He could easily answer all those questions that were at the link although I didn't listen to the video..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2013 06:32 PM (23Kgq)

95 "I'm sorry, sir. All trains for Puerto Rico are canceled. Tracks are flooded." THAT is hilarious. I am from Puerto Rico! Posted by: annalissema at October 21, 2013 10:29 PM (uW+NQ) But, how'd you leave if the tracks are all flooded and stuff???

Posted by: Publik Skewl Validicto-validecto-… partisipatshun trofy winnerz at October 21, 2013 06:32 PM (XvHmy)

96 Posted by: RiverC at October 21, 2013 10:17 PM (9hUiB)

Yeah....I'm not sure where you found this information, but if I were you I would check my sources.

Jewish migration into Germany was relatively recent, and the vast majority of Jews came from Eastern Europe and Russia. There is no genetic basis for the claim that German Jews were ethnic German.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 21, 2013 06:32 PM (oJ5Fd)

97 But, how'd you leave if the tracks are all flooded and stuff???

Posted by: Publik Skewl Validicto-validecto-Â… partisipatshun trofy winnerz at October 21, 2013 10:32 PM (XvHmy)

Dude....the bridge!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 21, 2013 06:33 PM (oJ5Fd)

98 I hope I don't live to the end of the month.

Posted by: Null at October 21, 2013 06:33 PM (xjpRj)

99 I was thinking that you could maybe string together some ferries and get from Miami to Puerto Rico, but it's lookin' like that won't work even if you have an infinite amount of time to screw around with it.

You could, however, charter a ship to do it -- which shows a certain advantage for large amounts of money over infinite amounts of time.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 06:33 PM (T1005)

100

I used to routinely ask my techs to find Brazil on a world map - very rarely could any of them do it ... the dumbening as been going on for a couple generations. At least they have "self esteem", so they can be completely confident in their ignorance ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 06:33 PM (/oZbq)

101

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 21, 2013 10:13 PM (XvHmy)

And yet? Every racial group in America... self segregate into 'neighborhoods'.... every State... every City.... to this day...

Posted by: A Sailor... at October 21, 2013 06:34 PM (lZBBB)

102 Dude....the bridge! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 21, 2013 10:33 PM (oJ5Fd) Damn right!

Posted by: Zombie Ted Stevens at October 21, 2013 06:34 PM (XvHmy)

103 98 I hope I don't live to the end of the month. Posted by: Null at October 21, 2013 10:33 PM (xjpRj) What?

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 06:35 PM (AO9UG)

104 I love that ignorant college student suggests that the Nazis discriminated against African-Americans. I wonder how many African AMERICANS they think were living in Germany. Posted by: creationwaits at October 21, 2013 10:08 PM (CVVLU) That rolled right off her tongue, huh? She can regurgitate 'WHITE AMERICANS KEPT DOWN THE BLACK MAN' but nothing else. Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 10:30 PM (bCEmE) Depressing isn't it. And that is what is living in the White House also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 06:35 PM (t3UFN)

105 Dude....the bridge! ** LOL!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 06:36 PM (DmNpO)

106 94 My son is very interested in the Holocaust and not because of anything I suggested to him or what he learned in public school. He just finished reading Primo Levi's book about being in a concentration camp. He could easily answer all those questions that were at the link although I didn't listen to the video.. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2013 10:32 PM (23Kgq) If he learns anything else, he needs to learn that human nature is a virtual constant, and what happened there could easily happen here. Indeed, appears to be happening now, in my estimation. Never before have we ever had such a Nazi like regime in this nation.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 06:36 PM (bb5+k)

107 Cool Tech in solving the Riddle of Steel (well metals in general)

http://tinyurl.com/nt4hoq9

http://tinyurl.com/qg7sqo5

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 06:36 PM (okL9f)

108 Oh. A dog.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at October 21, 2013 06:36 PM (xhhsI)

109 82 In California white people are a minority. And yet do not qualify for grants or set-asides for minority-owned businesses.

In Detroit whites are a distinct minority, and yet do not qualify for city contracts for minority owned businesses. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 10:29 PM

I expect in due time that a lot of white people will discover an Indian ancestor and apply for those goodies.

Just make sure you have a good Cherokee Crab with Mayonnaise recipe handy

Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2013 06:36 PM (aTXUx)

110 I'm gonna go downstairs and do a "two minute hate" on the peanut butter. See you in fifteen minutes...

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 21, 2013 06:36 PM (JMmQ9)

111 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2013 10:32 PM (23Kgq)

There is a book about the Holocaust called "The Last of The Just," by Andre Schwartzbart.

It is an incredibly emotional (and superb) book, and one that, at least for me, made it as personal as the tattoo on my aunt's arm.

It is also difficult to read.

Agonizing in many ways.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 21, 2013 06:36 PM (oJ5Fd)

112 98 I hope I don't live to the end of the month.

Posted by: Null at October 21, 2013 10:33 PM (xjpRj)

But you have to finish the painting with the mutant chicken trying to climb out of the swimming pool!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 06:37 PM (T1005)

113 I hope I don't live to the end of the month. *** WTH? Don't say that. What's going on?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 06:37 PM (DmNpO)

114 98 I hope I don't live to the end of the month. Posted by: Null at October 21, 2013 10:33 PM (xjpRj) Que?

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 06:37 PM (bb5+k)

115 these college kids don't know who Churchill was, who Hitler was, Who our Allies were and are, but they know Redskins bad, berry berry bad. And they are allowed to vote

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 06:37 PM (t3UFN)

116 Is that chicken wearing a hi-vis safety vest? I know the one next door isn't, but he's contraband anyhoo ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 06:38 PM (/oZbq)

117 I can be there by morning. Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 21, 2013 10:30 PM (aDwsi) Well played.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 21, 2013 06:39 PM (5J54Q)

118

I actually think the whole gay rights movement--including this current obsession with "gay marriage"--was started and pushed as a way to get a group that is overwhelmingly white, and largely affluent, to be seen as victims. And they are catered to largely because they are affluent and work in fields that allow them to use and spread their influence upon a great many people. They are useful to the Democrat Party because of their direct cash contributions and because they can spread the gospel of liberalism...

Posted by: JoeyBagels at October 21, 2013 06:39 PM (Usdw3)

119 MAFRAQ, Jordan Â— The purple plastic sacks fill two rooms in the otherwise sparsely furnished headquarters of a Jordanian NGO, awaiting distribution to Syrian refugees already lined up on the sidewalk. They contain an array of staple dry goods Â— lentils, pasta, powdered milk, tea Â— as well as a range of hygiene products like soap and detergent, enough for 250 refugee families. But before the goods are handed out, one thing will be removed Â— the word Â“Jewish.Â” Going sack by sack with a pair of scissors, an aid worker begins to cut. Â“We donÂ’t announce with trumpets that weÂ’re Israeli,Â” the worker says. Â“ThereÂ’s no need for that. Once you let that cat out of the bag, everything starts to blow up.Â” yeah and there is hope for peace? My ass

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 06:39 PM (t3UFN)

120 If he learns anything else, he needs to learn that human nature is a virtual constant,..... Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp ---------------------- There is no such thing as 'Human Nature'

Posted by: Quintessential Liberal at October 21, 2013 06:39 PM (aDwsi)

121 15 Some saw news stories about a proposed Interstate 11, Phoenix to Vegas. Eventually, over the course of many decades, it would extend north to Reno and beyond. Speaking of interstates that don't exist. California is building high speed rail in Fresno. Maybe building an interstate first would be a better use of resources. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 10:10 PM (ZPrif) I-73 has been on the drawing board since about 1990 to run from Detroit to Charleston, SC through Mich., Ohio, WVa, VA, NC and SC. The perfect project for Obama's 09 stimulus package, but alas, it remains unbuilt and still in planning stages. Because giving teachers and government workers raises during a recession is more important than getting construction projects going.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 21, 2013 06:39 PM (BXLPR)

122 Diogenes- My son-being my child is very politically astute. :^) so he knows that which is kind of a burden for a 13 year old..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2013 06:39 PM (23Kgq)

123 71 The funny thing about supposed "White Skin Privilege" is that it is an idea pushed by .....actual privileged white people, liberals and commies, as a way to keep minorities angry and agitated, the better to stir them up when they need to be stirred up to push the liberal agenda through...why do you think second or third generation immigrants are more radical than their parents and grandparents who came here? They are TAUGHT to be that way---by privileged white college profs....

This baffles me, precisely because as a Latin/American I see the likes of Chris Matthews painting himself into a corner and blaming himself, as a white ________ (insert your favorite adjective here) cryin' foul and seeing black all over his body. He's turned out to be our white version of Sharpton and Jackson, all rolled into a fat Cheech and Chong marijuana cigar. All lit up and high as a kite.

I gotta tell you, the professors that have a superiority complex are just as dangerous. I saw that college pic and I cringed. One of my many nightmares is basically returning to college. At least in PR people are way more opinionated as in, students rarely let this fly by. There was debate, at least when I attended. If not, students just dropped the class. There's no point in putting up with that kind of bullshit!

Posted by: annalissema at October 21, 2013 06:39 PM (uW+NQ)

124 I got to meet Elie Wiesel (author of Night) when I was in High School. All I could think to say was 'Thank you' I don't know what I was thanking him for: for suffering? For surviving? For putting his suffering into such words that I was changed completely? I wept during that video.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at October 21, 2013 06:39 PM (fzFF6)

125 The Ashkenazi are largely descended from Jews who fled pogroms in Central Europe (including Germany) during the middle ages. In fact, Yiddish is a dialect of medieval German. There have been a number of recent tests, though, showing they have the largely the same genetic background as other Jews.

Posted by: AD at October 21, 2013 06:39 PM (NmpZu)

126

On the wanting to be a victim thing...

You get More of what is celebrated... and you emulate what gets you ahead...

In todays school, hard work goes for naught... but be a minority and you are celebrated....

Thus... everyone wants to be a victim... as it is the way to get ahead...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2013 06:40 PM (lZBBB)

127 >>>I hope I don't live to the end of the month. Call 911. Now. No fucking around, just call.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 21, 2013 06:40 PM (eQJwb)

128 Wow Just watched HBO documentary Life According To Sam about a 16 year old with progeria and his parents research to treat and cure it. They are doctors. Amazing story, and such a thoughtful brilliant and brave young man

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 06:40 PM (zOTsN)

129 Yes, that's very disturbing, Null. What's going on?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2013 06:40 PM (23Kgq)

130 When did they quit putting "The Diary of Anne Frank" on the reading list?

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 06:41 PM (okL9f)

131 CBD.. I will try to find it. Thanks for the tip.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at October 21, 2013 06:41 PM (u25eL)

132 Some of the most rabid, unhinged lefties I have ever seen are gay. They are indeed useful shock troops.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 06:41 PM (L/qni)

133 123 71
The funny thing about supposed "White Skin Privilege" is that it is an
idea pushed by .....actual privileged white people, liberals and
commies, as a way to keep minorities angry and agitated, the better to
stir them up when they need to be stirred up to push the liberal agenda
through...why do you think second or third generation immigrants are
more radical than their parents and grandparents who came here? They are
TAUGHT to be that way---by privileged white college profs....

This baffles me, precisely because as a Latin/American I see the likes of Chris Matthews painting himself into a corner and blaming himself, as a white ________ (insert your favorite adjective here) cryin' foul and seeing black all over his body. He's turned out to be our white version of Sharpton and Jackson, all rolled into a fat Cheech and Chong marijuana cigar. All lit up and high as a kite.

I gotta tell you, the professors that have a superiority complex are just as dangerous. I saw that college pic and I cringed. One of my many nightmares is basically returning to college. At least in PR people are way more opinionated as in, students rarely let this fly by. There was debate, at least when I attended. If not, students just dropped the class. There's no point in putting up with that kind of bullshit!

Posted by: annalissema at October 21, 2013 10:39 PM (uW+NQ)

What part of Puerto Rico do you hail from? We had a great vacation down that way and drove all the way around.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 06:41 PM (T1005)

134 but alas, it remains unbuilt and still in planning stages. ---- I can imagine *nothing* worse than easing access from Detroit to Charleston.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 21, 2013 06:42 PM (aDwsi)

135 115 these college kids don't know who Churchill was, who Hitler was, Who our Allies were and are, but they know Redskins bad, berry berry bad. And they are allowed to vote Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 10:37 PM (t3UFN) How about the strength of your vote is made the same as the strength of your civic knowledge. Get one out of ten on a pre-vote test and your vote is reduced by ninety percent. That way it takes ten Obamabots to match the vote of one Moron.

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 06:42 PM (AO9UG)

136 But, how'd you leave if the tracks are all flooded and stuff???

Make it amphibious.

Posted by: annalissema at October 21, 2013 06:42 PM (uW+NQ)

137 Null... you still here? Talk to us, bud.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 06:42 PM (DmNpO)

138 Null Or beckoning chasm What's wrong

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 06:43 PM (zOTsN)

139 My son-being my child is very politically astute. :^) so he knows that which is kind of a burden for a 13 year old.. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2013 10:39 PM (23Kgq) A Heavy burden for a young lad. Hell, it's a heavy burden for an old one too. I miss naivete.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 06:43 PM (bb5+k)

140 Null What happens at the end of the month What's wrong

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 06:44 PM (zOTsN)

141 "I love that ignorant college student suggests that the Nazis discriminated against African-Americans"

In my experience with contemporary college students, you would get equally vacuous answers to almost any substantive historical, geographic, scientific, literary or economic question.

We've wrapped round the alphabet. From Gen X, Gen Y and Gen Z, to Gen A.

A for "Airheads".

Posted by: torquewrench at October 21, 2013 06:44 PM (gqT4g)

142 At least it looks like he's paying attention.

Posted by: West at October 21, 2013 06:44 PM (Wtuyy)

143 When did they quit putting "The Diary of Anne Frank" on the reading list? Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 10:41 PM (okL9f) Since she oppressed the innocent Palestinians and ya know she is a tea partier right? And you question this? Your Papers PLEASE!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 06:45 PM (t3UFN)

144 Null?

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 06:45 PM (AO9UG)

145

Looks like I picked the right week to go on vaca.

Stop sniffing model glue? Not so much.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 06:45 PM (L/qni)

146 Null, talk to us. If not that, talk to SOMEONE. 911, a suicide hotline, anyone. I've been down this road myself. I don't want you to do what I almost did.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 21, 2013 06:46 PM (5J54Q)

147 Null-If you're feeling that depressed please call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline NOW: 1-800-273-8255

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2013 06:46 PM (23Kgq)

148 Null? Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 10:45 PM (AO9UG) Second cousin of void

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 06:46 PM (t3UFN)

149 The Nazis discriminated against Blacks comes undoubtedly from the story of Jessie Owens at the 1936 Olympics.

That's probably the only lesson from the 1930s-1940s.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 21, 2013 06:46 PM (oJ5Fd)

150 I don't get what happens in Knoxville at month-end.....the Great Smoky Mountain Cluster Dog Show? The Great Pumkin (sic) in the Park?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 06:46 PM (T1005)

151 Night and Diary of Anne Frank were required reading for my son in middle school.

Posted by: NCKate at October 21, 2013 06:46 PM (83KrV)

152 The WWII ignorance is a travesty and indictment of our public schools.

I've shared this before: Watched a WWII-era martial arts movie with family, made an offhand comment about lack of credit for US atomic bombs at the film's epilogue, and a high school junior cousin adds, "Like, Pearl Harbor?"

All they teach is word association, if even. Japan WWII Pearl Harbor internment camps Hiroshima. No meaning, no history.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 21, 2013 06:46 PM (0wHyk)

153 127 >>>I hope I don't live to the end of the month. Call 911. Now. No fucking around, just call. Posted by: DC in Towson at October 21, 2013 10:40 PM (eQJwb) Not so fast, the man may be in a hospice situation or something. I expect some day we will all be in such a situation.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 06:46 PM (bb5+k)

154 Oh sorry this is serious? I guess I should follow the threads closer.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 06:46 PM (t3UFN)

155 Null? What gives

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 06:46 PM (zOTsN)

156 I'M more conservative now than I have been in half a century.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at October 21, 2013 06:47 PM (xhhsI)

157 What part of Puerto Rico do you hail from? We had a great vacation down that way and drove all the way around.

15 mins from the airport, Carolina. Near Isla Verde, with all the hotels, condos and casinos, and short driving distance to San Juan. Hope you had a good time.

Moved later on with my fiancÃ© at the time, my current husband and if we wanted to, we could walk to the beach.

Good times, indeed.

Posted by: annalissema at October 21, 2013 06:47 PM (uW+NQ)

158 Believe It or Not America is More Conservative Now Than It's Been in Half a Century *** Of course we haven't seen this in the votes cast - but I think that this shows just how good the left is an electioneering - however you want to attribute it to control of the media, control of the bureaucracy, and voter fraud.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2013 06:47 PM (uUvS8)

159 "Obernight Open Thread"?? Apparently Ace has outsourced his headline writing services to Eddie Murphy as Buckwheat. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 21, 2013 06:47 PM (T/XcG)

160 Yeah, the I-73/I-74 project would be helpful. Myrtle could use an interstate.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 06:48 PM (ZPrif)

161 Null is a young man who spoke recently about a gal he liked and about how he thought himself unworthy of her. If I recall correctly.

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 06:49 PM (AO9UG)

162 Sending up a prayer for you Null. Whatever is wrong.. I pray God can heal your heart and give you peace. We are all here for you.

Posted by: jewells45 trying to keep from going crazy at October 21, 2013 06:49 PM (u25eL)

163 Hitler was also a vegetarian. So all vegetarians are mass murderers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 21, 2013 06:49 PM (nAyhY)

164 #84

No, the guy is just a contributor. Forbes has a bunch of online columnists like that who are not people who would cut it on the core editorial staff.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 06:49 PM (kcfmt)

165 Hash worn by Beckoning Chasm earlier.

Posted by: blaster at October 21, 2013 06:49 PM (4+AaH)

166 Null please answer.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 06:49 PM (zOTsN)

167 Null-And let me just reaffirm what Captain Whitebread said-I've been severely depressed myself. I'm also from a family where several relatives have taken their lives. It's not something the survivors get over. It' s devastating for them, We care about you and so do others.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2013 06:49 PM (23Kgq)

168 If you're Polish, chances are you are related to someone killed by either the Nazis or the Russians.

Posted by: Conanski at October 21, 2013 06:49 PM (eAY4A)

169

It's funny. I am Mostly Cuban, but look white. I don't eat hispanic foods etc.

I jokingly call myself a lapsed hispanic.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 06:50 PM (L/qni)

170 Hitler was also a vegetarian. So all vegetarians are mass murderers. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 21, 2013 10:49 PM (nAyhY) Well that one I believe is true? Right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 06:50 PM (t3UFN)

171 I ran across this link http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/?p=3553 and looking at the graphs how can anyone believe in catastrophic global warming?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 21, 2013 06:50 PM (uUvS8)

172 WTF is the matter with this guy?

He's a retard who doesn't realize the $800B/yr baked into the cake "stimulus" black hole spending, that produces nothing of lasting value, is being counted as GDP.

The GDP numbers are so fakey fake and full of crap that's actually liability/hindrance rather than production/asset, they not a reliable measure of anything anymore.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 06:50 PM (l5zzX)

173 So folks, I don't know if Jeff B. will be along tonight but let's have another music-themed ONT thread. Which song do people here believe best represents DC today?:

- "You're No Good" (Linda Ronstadt)

- "Gypsies Tramps and Thieves" (Cher)

- "Everything About You" (Ugly Kid Joe)

...and I'm sure there are lots of others.

Posted by: qdpsteve at October 21, 2013 06:50 PM (T/XcG)

174 144 Null? Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 10:45 PM (AO9UG) He's driving a null zone towards you. It'll kill you on contact. (btw, Alexei Stukov, infested or not, is one of my favorite characters from Starcraft).

Posted by: Infested Alexei Stukov at October 21, 2013 06:50 PM (ZyqBH)

175 Forbes has a bunch of online columnists like that who are not people who would cut it on the core editorial staff.

***

Whatever. Homeboy needs a fisking.

Posted by: cool arrow at October 21, 2013 06:50 PM (WMsq+)

176 163 Hitler was also a vegetarian. So all vegetarians are mass murderers. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 21, 2013 10:49 PM (nAyhY) He also liked dogs and believed in astrology.

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 06:50 PM (AO9UG)

177 Hitler was also a vegetarian. So all vegetarians are mass murderers.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 21, 2013 10:49 PM (nAyhY)

Thanks for ruining my next food post.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 21, 2013 06:50 PM (oJ5Fd)

178 He also liked dogs and believed in astrology. Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 10:50 PM (AO9UG) Well at least he didn't eat dogs and believe in Alinksy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 06:51 PM (t3UFN)

179 Sticky: Guest Bloggers ~~should~~ will begin each post with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Ace of Spaces. Commenters will end each comment with "Blessings be upon Ace" or "May Ace be with you".

Posted by: Some Commenter (not Ace) at October 21, 2013 06:51 PM (pgQxn)

180 Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to be glib - I hadn't remembered about Null,

Posted by: Infested Alexei Stukov at October 21, 2013 06:51 PM (ZyqBH)

181 Not really about anything. But If I would have taken a victim attitude with 3 older brothers I would not be posting today (dead or in an asylum) Stand up and make them pay is the only way to not be a victim. Yeah it sucks for a time but the life and freedom are worth the short term suck.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 06:52 PM (okL9f)

182 Null My Dad killed himself. If you are serious, Don't do it.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 06:53 PM (zOTsN)

183 No, the guy is just a contributor. Forbes has a bunch of online columnists like that who are not people who would cut it on the core editorial staff. Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 10:49 PM (kcfmt) Eh, you're right. Being unfamiliar with Forbes, I took the term "Business Contributor" as some sort of official position. Why did they let that kook publish anything under their name?

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 06:53 PM (bb5+k)

184 How can we help Null?

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 06:53 PM (AO9UG)

185 173 - We have to choose one? I'm kinda partial to "Pencil Neck Geek".

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 21, 2013 06:53 PM (5J54Q)

186 In California white people are a minority. And yet do not qualify for grants or set-asides for minority-owned businesses. In Detroit whites are a distinct minority, and yet do not qualify for city contracts for minority owned businesses. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 10:29 PM I expect in due time that a lot of white people will discover an Indian ancestor and apply for those goodies. Just make sure you have a good Cherokee Crab with Mayonnaise recipe handy Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2013 10:36 PM (aTXUx) They get around that by declaring that "minority rights' only apply to "historically underrepresented" minority groups. This is why in colleges where the plurality of students are of Asian ethnicity, they are considered "historically underrepresented" and thus targets for receiving the benefits of Affirmative Action.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 21, 2013 06:53 PM (XvHmy)

187 Sticky: Commenters will refrain from using ipads with autocorrect turned on.
This is an embarrassment both to the other commenters, and most importantly, his Eminence the Ace of Spades.

Posted by: Some Commenter (not Ace) at October 21, 2013 06:54 PM (pgQxn)

188 Which song do people here believe best represents DC today?:>>

Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 06:54 PM (okL9f)

189 Speaking of non-existent interstates, I'm surprised there isn't one directly from Detroit to Columbus. I guess Columbus didn't used to be that important, but it's a big metro nowadays.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 06:54 PM (ZPrif)

190 Beckoning Chasm, the link in his name, has been here a long time He also has a Facebook under beckoning chasm Anybody know him?

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 06:55 PM (zOTsN)

191 Highway to hell of course.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at October 21, 2013 06:55 PM (xhhsI)

192 Null/Beckoning Chasm entertained the horde with some similar drama about a year ago, IIRC. Not trying to be flip about it, but it isn't his first kick at that particular cat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 21, 2013 06:56 PM (60Q+L)

193 >>>If you're Polish, chances are you are related to someone killed by either the Nazis or the Russians. Yep. Two great-uncles died in Warsaw, another lived through the war, wrote anti-communist poetry until a literate censor caught it and had him shot. They built a statue of him in '91 in his hometown.

Posted by: DC in Towson at October 21, 2013 06:56 PM (eQJwb)

194 Null, it is likely that you've experienced awful times in your life in the past; bad days at school, your first heart-break, an elderly relative passing away... and each time, the sun continued to rise. Things got better. No matter how bad things are now, they DO always improve.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 06:56 PM (DmNpO)

195 Null (AKA Beckoning Chasm) is a nice guy with a real talent for painting and a finicky cat. I've had lunch with him (though not recently). I don't think he's all that young nor all that old.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 06:56 PM (T1005)

196 I have been in Null's shoes too. It will take a bit of time to accept what's wrong and a leap of faith, but meds is what keeps me in control. I pray that it was a bluff to get us all wound up; if not, rest assured WE can help, one way or the other.

Chicks? We're bitches. That is your step 1 right there.

Posted by: annalissema at October 21, 2013 06:56 PM (uW+NQ)

197 Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap. Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 10:54 PM (okL9f) Money Talks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmyzFsYEdco

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 21, 2013 06:56 PM (XvHmy)

198 C'mon, Null. You want to talk or you would not have posted what you posted. We have all stared into the abyss in one way or another. Say something.

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 06:56 PM (AO9UG)

199

Let's see, I have a Great Grandfather who killed himself, an uncle who killed himself, and alcoholism/depression runs in the family.

As much as those of you (to your credit) wish to help Null, please be advised he will resist your help. That is the evil and cruel nature of depression.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 06:57 PM (L/qni)

200 I don't think he's all that young nor all that old. Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 10:56 PM (T1005) Sounds like Gandolf?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 06:57 PM (t3UFN)

201 Chris Matthews playing with that same old rusty dog whistle: http://tinyurl.com/qg3nqnf

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 21, 2013 06:57 PM (5J54Q)

202

Which song do people here believe best represents DC today?:>>

Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 10:54 PM (okL9f)

WarPigs?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2013 06:57 PM (lZBBB)

203 Null/Beckoning Chasm entertained the horde with some similar drama about a year ago, IIRC. Not trying to be flip about it, but it isn't his first kick at that particular cat. *** It's irrelevant.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 06:57 PM (DmNpO)

204 I agree with the poster who bemoaned this curent generation's ignorance of WW2, and I blame both the education establishment and the business community. Yes, that's right. Neither entity gives a shit about molding good a well-educated, well-informed citizenry--which a study of history would help to facilitate. The education establishment just wants brain-washed little liberals spouting PC talking points, the business community just wants brain-washed little consumers spouting designer brand names and going into credit-card debt....

Posted by: JoeyBagels at October 21, 2013 06:58 PM (Usdw3)

205 119 MAFRAQ, Jordan Â— The purple plastic sacks fill two rooms in the otherwise sparsely furnished headquarters of a Jordanian NGO, awaiting distribution to Syrian refugees already lined up on the sidewalk.

They contain an array of staple dry goods Â— lentils, pasta, powdered milk, tea Â— as well as a range of hygiene products like soap and detergent, enough for 250 refugee families. But before the goods are handed out, one thing will be removed Â— the word Â“Jewish.Â”

Going sack by sack with a pair of scissors, an aid worker begins to cut.
Â“We donÂ’t announce with trumpets that weÂ’re Israeli,Â” the worker says. Â“ThereÂ’s no need for that. Once you let that cat out of the bag, everything starts to blow up.Â”

yeah and there is hope for peace? My ass
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 10:39 PM (t3UFN)

If they can't handle the truth, that they're being fed by Jooos, then they don't need to eat. Fuck 'em. It boggles my mind that a Jewish aid organization would feed the Muslims bigotry, it truly does.

Uh, no pun intended.

Posted by: J. Random Dude at October 21, 2013 06:58 PM (72afg)

206 192 Null/Beckoning Chasm entertained the horde with some similar drama about a year ago, IIRC. Not trying to be flip about it, but it isn't his first kick at that particular cat. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 21, 2013 10:56 PM (60Q+L) May be an ongoing aspect of his life. Some depressions last a very long time.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 06:58 PM (bb5+k)

207 I tell white people to just say they are part Cuban on their mother's side. The Diversity nazis don't have the balls to call your bluff. Claiming to be Amerindian is harder since the tribes actually keep track (so they don't have to share the Feds money). Hell, you can be 100% Spanish pureblood from a Cuban family that ran sugar plantations staffed entirely by slaves ... and still qualify for Affirmative Action in America. It's good to be a Conquistador-American!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 06:59 PM (ZPrif)

208 Re: Czesława Kwoka.

F*ckers.

Posted by: badanov at October 21, 2013 06:59 PM (81n2a)

209 As much as those of you (to your credit) wish to help Null, please be advised he will resist your help. That is the evil and cruel nature of depression. Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 10:57 PM (L/qni) Sorry, but that's bull. I'm proof of that.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 21, 2013 06:59 PM (5J54Q)

210 Null, we're here if you decide to talk about it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 07:00 PM (DmNpO)

211 Some depressions last a very long time. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 10:58 PM (bb5+k) Your a Cub's fan right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 07:00 PM (t3UFN)

212 Good evening. I must say, wifi at 38,000 feet is pretty cool. Almost as cool as the Bombay Sapphire gin & tonics in first. Gotta love upgrades. Carry on. / hic

Posted by: TexBob at October 21, 2013 07:01 PM (dEuP4)

213 Smoke on the Water

http://tinyurl.com/ov2up9b

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 07:01 PM (okL9f)

214 Null please don't

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 07:01 PM (zOTsN)

215 If they can't handle the truth, that they're being fed by Jooos, then they don't need to eat. Fuck 'em. It boggles my mind that a Jewish aid organization would feed the Muslims bigotry, it truly does. Uh, no pun intended. Posted by: J. Random Dude at October 21, 2013 10:58 PM (72afg) I cannot find fault with your argument.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 07:01 PM (bb5+k)

216

Today was a sucky day, Special Education which I teach is a scam and I have difficulty justifying the bullshit it is. So I'm here with you guys and that's a good thing. Best to you all rons.

Posted by: Guido "the suck is getting louder" at October 21, 2013 07:01 PM (JvtXj)

217 He (Null/BChasm) sent an e-mail in the yahoo group about 15 mins. after his post here. It was about Obamacare and who will and will not get treatment. Nothing that you haven't seen said here several times.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 07:02 PM (bCEmE)

218 I watched the first half of the Giants/Vikings game. That was enough bad football to last a long time.

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 07:02 PM (AO9UG)

219 And if someone is prone to depression this is bad time of year with Seasonal Affective Disorder as the light gets lesser and lesser.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2013 07:02 PM (23Kgq)

220 Google released a tool, uProxy, to get around govt censorship. Imagine it will make troll-busting harder as well.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 07:02 PM (ZPrif)

221 fucking vikings

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at October 21, 2013 07:03 PM (rkewj)

222 Your a Cub's fan right? Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 11:00 PM (t3UFN) Nah, but I get the reference.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 07:03 PM (bb5+k)

223 Thanks Tami.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 07:03 PM (zOTsN)

224 Null just posted at the Yahoo group with thoughtful commentary on Obamacare. I think he is just venting and struggling in life like a lot of us are.

Posted by: L, elle at October 21, 2013 07:03 PM (BCz1s)

225 217 He (Null/BChasm) sent an e-mail in the yahoo group about 15 mins. after his post here. It was about Obamacare and who will and will not get treatment. Nothing that you haven't seen said here several times. Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 11:02 PM (bCEmE) Okay.

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 07:03 PM (AO9UG)

226

Which song do people here believe best represents DC today?:>>

My Congressman Does The Hanky Panky

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 21, 2013 07:03 PM (BAS5M)

227 fucking vikings Posted by: muttering vikings fan at October 21, 2013 11:03 PM (rkewj) Yes apparently Adrian Petterson is pretty good at fucking. Parenting not so much

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 07:04 PM (t3UFN)

228 They get around that by declaring that "minority rights' only apply to "historically underrepresented" minority groups. This is why in colleges where the plurality of students are of Asian ethnicity, they are considered "historically underrepresented" and thus targets for receiving the benefits of Affirmative Action.

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 21, 2013 10:53 PM (XvHmy)

Or also discriminated against (Ex: CA asians needing higher test scores/qualifications to get into certain universities).

Then being taught in Asian American Studies classes (required for "diversity" credit) about all the victimization of Asians in America and the need for "solidarity" and holding of grievances even if contrary to one's own experience. Asian American achievement? Apparently the only one is to be a Victim of the White Man.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 21, 2013 07:04 PM (0wHyk)

229 fucking vikings Was an awesome show on the history channel. Can't wait till season 2.

Posted by: TexBob at October 21, 2013 07:04 PM (dEuP4)

230 #183

Content. It gets more traffic to the site for lower cost than the talent who makes it into print.

The guy who runs the Coyote and Climate Skeptic sites also has an online column at Forbes.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 07:04 PM (kcfmt)

231 Speaking of SAD, anybody have a recommendation for a, not too expensive, sun lamp? I'm gonna try one this winter in hopes of avoiding getting the blahs. I've heard good stuff about sun lamps, but not sure how to go about getting one or which one to get. Where do you even get them? Amazon?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 07:05 PM (ZPrif)

232 Some depressions last a very long time.

10+ years for me. Started when my dad died, then got worse as I realized I would live long enough to see the end of the USA as a functioning nation state.

I'm starting to internalize the collapse and embrace it though and that's helped a lot.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 07:05 PM (l5zzX)

233 I see depression like a beach; calm at times, then the winds bring in waves, and when bad weather hits, if you're not grounded at shore, you risk your life by surfing through it before a hurricane hits.

Besides, there is no worse feeling that when you're down, that your own family does not believe an iota of what you say. THAT almost drove me to the edge; my kids were my lifeline.

Posted by: annalissema at October 21, 2013 07:05 PM (uW+NQ)

234 It's irrelevant.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 10:57 PM (DmNpO)

NO, it is relevant. It establishes a pattern. He has expressed these same thoughts before. And got a lot of offers for help and support from the Horde. And he bounced back. That time. This time, who knows. What he needs is someone from his family or circle of meat-world friends to be there for him. As in a physical presence.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 21, 2013 07:06 PM (60Q+L)

235 CBD - On a lighter note, I think you need to go all in with a post on Kosher food for those of us of Goy descent. I hope hot pastrami qualifies in there somewhere.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 21, 2013 07:06 PM (4Mv1T)

236 The song of the times... http://tinyurl.com/l4wexa

Posted by: O'Jays at October 21, 2013 07:06 PM (rkewj)

237 On a lighter note FSA member calls ambulance for a ride Ambulance responds, says he will have to wait He steals the ambulance and knocks out several street lights. Behold the future

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 07:06 PM (zOTsN)

238 Glad to hear Null posted on the yahoo group. If you read the ONT, Null, there really are people here who will do concrete things to help if you want to talk.

Posted by: LadyS at October 21, 2013 07:06 PM (xlhzQ)

239 Oh and for Smoke on the water.

TFG Is the "Some stupid with a flare gun"

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 07:06 PM (okL9f)

240 I had a visiting prof who had done his career at Bethlehem steel and expected us to have the damn phase diagram for steel memorized, at least in the austenitic region. It took away some of the magic of modern steels.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 21, 2013 07:06 PM (Fa3Hi)

241 231 Let me know; I get the blues. I can only stand snow for a bit.

Posted by: annalissema at October 21, 2013 07:07 PM (uW+NQ)

242

Captain Whitebread, you are the exception to the rule. That is an unfortunate fact. Null's refusal to respond is also proof of that.

Please be advised I did not post that to discourage people who want to help him. I wanted to let them know what they are likely facing.

Depression is not a rational creature. You see people who have so much going for them, but feeling that they in a deep dark hole and that the only way to take away their pain is by death.

I commend them for trying, but hope they do not blame themselves should they fail to save him.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 07:07 PM (L/qni)

243 CBD - On a lighter note, I think you need to go all in with a post on Kosher food for those of us of Goy descent. I hope hot pastrami qualifies in there somewhere. Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 21, 2013 11:06 PM (4Mv1T) Shrimp wrapped in bacon is no-no

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 07:07 PM (t3UFN)

244 FSA member calls ambulance for a ride Ambulance responds, says he will have to wait He steals the ambulance and knocks out several street lights. Behold the future Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 11:06 PM (zOTsN) Idiocracy was a documentary. Oh and goody....Westboro is going to protest at games 3 & 4 in St. Louis. This outta be interesting.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 07:07 PM (bCEmE)

245 219 And if someone is prone to depression this is bad time of year with Seasonal Affective Disorder as the light gets lesser and lesser. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2013 11:02 PM (23Kgq) I was diagnosed with SAD while stationed in Edzell, Scotland. I was raised in Southern California, so living in a place where the sun set around 3:30-400PM in the winter was a challenge. I would go to work when it was dark and get off from work and it was dark. Very difficult to handle when you don't know what's wrong.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at October 21, 2013 07:07 PM (kVw0W)

246 NO, it is relevant. It establishes a pattern. He has expressed these same thoughts before. And got a lot of offers for help and support from the Horde. And he bounced back. That time. This time, who knows. What he needs is someone from his family or circle of meat-world friends to be there for him. As in a physical presence. *** I apologize. I misunderstood your comment.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 07:08 PM (DmNpO)

247 220 Google released a tool, uProxy, to get around govt censorship. Imagine it will make troll-busting harder as well.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 11:02 PM (ZPrif)

Don't worry, I'm sure there's NO possibility that Google will open the vaults where they keep all the uProxy records to the Feds. No. Way. Cuz Google's motto is Don't Be Evil and their business is information.

Posted by: J. Random Dude at October 21, 2013 07:08 PM (72afg)

248 I shit you not. Today I followed a link to Forbes magazine in which the Business editor said Obama was the greatest economic President since Ronald Reagan.
I was dumbfounded.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l3w6lvz
WTF is the matter with this guy?
Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 10:30 PM (bb5+k)
Big business is starting to put lots of money toward the Democrats. I guess they figure the demographics are going that way and they want to keep the crony capitalism going their way.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 21, 2013 07:08 PM (WLywR)

249 I got my sun lamp from Northern Light technologies.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2013 07:08 PM (23Kgq)

250 What's the Yahoo! Group for Moronettes? I am intrigued.

Posted by: annalissema at October 21, 2013 07:09 PM (uW+NQ)

251

I am a Cubs/Bears/Cardinals fan. Mercy killing?

/////

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 07:10 PM (L/qni)

252 I also tell people if you possibly go out while it's still light and spend at least 15 minutes in the sun it helps. At least around here it was sunny and a beautiful day.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2013 07:10 PM (23Kgq)

253 I'm starting to internalize the collapse and embrace it though and that's helped a lot. Posted by: Purp at October 21, 2013 11:05 PM (l5zzX) After reading fifty zombie books, I'm ready.

Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 07:11 PM (AO9UG)

254 232 Some depressions last a very long time.
--------
10+ years for me. Started when my dad died, then got worse as I realized I would live long enough to see the end of the USA as a functioning nation state.

Arguably some 25 years for me. Getting help now. It's not helping as much as I'd hoped, but every little bit, right?

Posted by: J. Random Dude at October 21, 2013 07:11 PM (72afg)

255 10+ years for me. Started when my dad died, then got worse as I realized I would live long enough to see the end of the USA as a functioning nation state. I'm starting to internalize the collapse and embrace it though and that's helped a lot. Posted by: Purp at October 21, 2013 11:05 PM (l5zzX) It is weighing heavily on me as well. I ponder and dwell and agonize and I keep hoping against hope that people can be made to wake up and see that the plane is crashing, and that we should PULL OUT, but everything I see happening convinces me that we will not. I'm sorry about your father.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 07:11 PM (bb5+k)

256 My understanding is the way sun lamps work is you get it and just sit in front of it for 30 minutes a day or so, your body is tricked into thinking it's sunshine. Vitamin D production and other good stuff we probably don't understand yet. Weirdest thing I've ever read about sun lamps is studies that used them to cure jet lag -- bu shining them at the back of your legs, behind your knees. Not sure why they worked. Definitely gonna take some extra vitamin D this winter. Had super low Vit D levels when I get them checked in Feb.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 07:11 PM (ZPrif)

257 Good evening, Horde. 100% on a paper I ~~wrote~~ pulled out of my ass in an hour. Three hours of yoga today, followed by jam making. Apple pie jam, smelled wonderful but is too sweet.

Posted by: Gingy at October 21, 2013 07:11 PM (TnsBL)

258 Gotta go for the night; I am a long time lurker too.

xoxo

Posted by: annalissema at October 21, 2013 07:11 PM (uW+NQ)

259 Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno said his greatest fear is to receive an order to deploy thousands of troops. And with good reason. The Army has only two combat-ready brigades right now, he said. Even the ones headed to Afghanistan are qualified for the trainer and adviser mission, not combat. Yeah maybe, but they have hours and hours of that sexual abuse course down pat and also muslim appreciation.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 07:12 PM (t3UFN)

260 Shrimp wrapped in bacon is no-no Posted by: Nevergiveup -------------------------------- Turkey bacon!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 21, 2013 07:12 PM (4Mv1T)

261 TedCruz getting heroes welcome all over Texas. Houston today

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 07:13 PM (zOTsN)

262 Unfortunately for you I have self medicated my depression from my last divorce with booze. So I say stupid crap in the late hours. Working on a fix but don't like the obvious one.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 07:13 PM (okL9f)

263 Imagine it will make troll-busting harder as well.

Not much. You'd just smite the "friend's" IP the troll is coming through.

It sounds like an ICS over IP kinda thing.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 07:14 PM (l5zzX)

264

I have read Forbes from time to time over the last year or two and considered them left wing.

I think Bertram has it right.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 07:15 PM (L/qni)

265 260 Shrimp wrapped in bacon is no-no
Posted by: Nevergiveup
--------------------------------
Turkey bacon!
Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 21, 2013 11:12 PM (4Mv1T)
Wrapped around turkey shrimp.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 21, 2013 07:15 PM (WLywR)

266 I know squat about sunlamps, but I was an industrial/commercial factory rep for Sylvania lighting between 79-89. Indoor lighting gives you about 40-150 foot candles of light. A cloudy day? easily a 1000 foot candles. A sunny day? 10,000-15,000 foot candles. Point is, in typical indoor lighting the body thinks it is in the dark. It needs MUCH higher intensity of light to get the whole biological clock ticking like it should.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 21, 2013 07:16 PM (4Mv1T)

267 I remember a couple years ago when someone intimated that they were going to do something to themselves. Northern CA I think. We got together and found this guy in meat space and were able to help him. I forgot his nic. Does anyone other than me remember this?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 21, 2013 07:16 PM (jucos)

268 O/T--a month or two ago there was discussion about someone's kid having to do a mock war crimes trial for Truman. A book was mentioned that dealt with the topic in detail, I want to say it was a one word title that started with "O". Can a moron or 'ette lay some knowledge on me?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 21, 2013 07:16 PM (sQ0LB)

269 160 Yeah, the I-73/I-74 project would be helpful. Myrtle could use an interstate. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 10:48 PM (ZPrif) Hell, it would shave about 45 minutes to an hour off the trip from Roanoke to Myrtle. Plus it would cut way down on the trip from Roanoke to Raleigh too, which could cause me to get tickets to Hurricanes games again.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 21, 2013 07:16 PM (BXLPR)

270 TR, I love ya but you have to turn in your North Carolinian card if you eat turkey bacon.

Posted by: LadyS at October 21, 2013 07:16 PM (xlhzQ)

271 Yeah, and any pale people need to take advantage of their White People Superpowers of enhanced Vitamin D production. Of course, that goes along with enhanced skin cancer production powers, so mixed bag. And the non-pale probably should take Vitamin D supplements unless they live in a super sunny region. Darker skin evolved for living in the sunny tropics, not for snow. A huge % of black folks in the midwest, for example, suffer from Vitamin D deficiency. The darker your skin, the more sunlight you require for adequate Vitamin D levels. If you can't get the sun then supplements are necessary.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 07:17 PM (ZPrif)

272

I used to laugh at Turkey bacon.

Now I enjoy it almost as much as real bacon.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 07:17 PM (L/qni)

273 267 I remember a couple years ago when someone intimated that they were going to do something to themselves. Northern CA I think. We got together and found this guy in meat space and were able to help him. I forgot his nic. Does anyone other than me remember this? Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 21, 2013 11:16 PM (jucos) Yep....can't remember his name but several found his address and phone number. Called his house to alert them and sure enough he had taken a gun and gone out. They notified the police who found him. Scary that was.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 07:17 PM (bCEmE)

274 Yes, take vitamin D. That helps. I only sat in front of my lamp for 20 minutes a day. Northern Lights was the company recommended by the doctor I saw for depression. Now I'm too poor to see anyone for meds and so just do others things to help with the depression,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2013 07:17 PM (23Kgq)

275 After reading fifty zombie books, I'm ready. Posted by: eman at October 21, 2013 11:11 PM (AO9UG) Planning for a Zombie apocalypse is the right frame of mind for the future IMO. Just don't make the mistake of thinking the FSA is exactly like zombies. They aren't. They are much smarter, and you must take that into account when dealing with them. Have to step away for a bit. Will try to be back shortly.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 07:18 PM (bb5+k)

276 242 I understand what you're saying. At the same time, I understand what I'm facing. I've been farther down that road than I'm comfortable talking about here. That's why I can't give up on anyone -- even people who I don't even know, really -- in that same situation. I understand it. I've lived it. If I can help someone realize that killing themselves creates far more pain than it ends, then good. My conscience won't allow me to do any less.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 21, 2013 07:19 PM (5J54Q)

277 Oldie, but goodie: "Don't Talk to Police."

It's long, but well worth your time. Everyone in your family should watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

Posted by: CW at October 21, 2013 07:19 PM (T9zRc)

278 TR - I *always* miss the gun thread, so I posted this last night, maybe you can pass on to others you know. I'm wondering if anyone can identify this oiler. http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r727/MickySpillaine/IMG_0510_zps8fa7c82b.jpg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 21, 2013 07:20 PM (aDwsi)

279 In the "Do you off yourself because life sucks" I can't because I love my Parents,Siblings,Children and Grand children too much.

And My life only sucks from my bad choices may be an add on.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 07:20 PM (okL9f)

280 273. Wow. The Horde is even better than I thought. Must try to sleep; 'night, all.

Posted by: LadyS at October 21, 2013 07:21 PM (xlhzQ)

281
id tell that big black student to come to the front so i could pet him

Posted by: meep at October 21, 2013 10:05 PM (Y2x0b)

What up, dawg?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 21, 2013 07:21 PM (MBqvE)

282 A significant problem with the police is that once they have a suspect, they stop investigating, and start building a case.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 21, 2013 07:22 PM (aDwsi)

283 272 I used to laugh at Turkey bacon. Now I enjoy it almost as much as real bacon. Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 11:17 PM (L/qni) My son still thinks it's gross. But at least it's not $5-$8 a package.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 21, 2013 07:22 PM (5J54Q)

284

I too fight the battle against the darkness - definitely exacerbated by the isolation of full time WFH - thx to the people here for providing some sort of human contact ... it's really time to find another job I spose ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 07:22 PM (/oZbq)

285 Vitamin D deficiency has been a huge problem for all the Somalis that were, stupidly, imported to Minneapolis. Has caused huge medical problems. Totally separate from the wisdom of important crazy jihadi Soamlis is putting them in Minnesota -- about the exact opposite environment where their bodies were designed to live. People were smarter 100-200 years ago when we imported Finns, Swedes, and Norwegians to settle the parts of America that were cold, dark, and snow-covered. Crazy idea, find some ethnic group that already thrives in the snow and maybe not the desert people.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 07:22 PM (ZPrif)

286 Shrimp wrapped in bacon is no-no Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 11:07 PM (t3UFN) It's my number one favorite food wrapped around my number three favorite food.

Posted by: Ron Swanson at October 21, 2013 07:23 PM (BXLPR)

287 267 I remember a couple years ago when someone intimated that they were going to do something to themselves. Northern CA I think. We got together and found this guy in meat space and were able to help him. I forgot his nic. Does anyone other than me remember this?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 21, 2013 11:16 PM (jucos)

We've had a couple. The one you're thinking of was in SoCal, but we also had Joffen up near Canada.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 07:24 PM (T1005)

288 greatest fear is to receive an order to deploy thousands of troops

Active RA is under 500k now. I'd guess the percentage of those who are trigger pullers is in the 20% range. We've shifted a lot of logistics/supply and maintenance to contrctors over the years. During WWII it was about 10% trigger pullers.

Traditional deployments, like Korea, Okinawa, etc + middle east, Africa, A-stan, etc + CONUS base staff has the Army running pretty freaking lean these days.

At one point, we had over 500k in Vietnam alone as well as all the other ongoing cold war deployments and a lot more active CONUS bases.

Odierno is absolutely right. The US Army is stretched as far as it can be. If he had to come up with another 30k for some action it would be flat out impossible.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 07:24 PM (l5zzX)

289 Author William Styron, author of Sophie's Choice, wrote a book about his battle with depression called Darkness Visible. Worth a read

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 07:25 PM (zOTsN)

290 I hate fucking Vikings.

Posted by: johnd01 at October 21, 2013 07:25 PM (r0+v0)

291 Hammer- You need to post that up at www.carolinashootersclub.com LOTS of knowledgeable and local folks there. And no, It's not Carolinas Hooters Club... it's Carlolina Shooters Club.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 21, 2013 07:25 PM (4Mv1T)

292

Captain Whitebread, been there too.

Good on you for trying. A good friend's nephew just tried to kill himself recently. I let her know he really wanted help and not death based on the way he tried to do it.

I gave her the same warning that he may fight their efforts to help, but not to quit on him.

I hope Null gets the help he needs. If not, I hope those that tried don't punish themselves.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 07:26 PM (L/qni)

293

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 11:22 PM (ZPrif)

-----

Since it also affects mood and mental state it is possible that they were stuck there for that reason. Cause enough mental distress to push the jihadi button.

Posted by: madamemayhem at October 21, 2013 07:26 PM (S2RnE)

294 285 Vitamin D deficiency has been a huge problem for all the Somalis that were, stupidly, imported to Minneapolis. Has caused huge medical problems. Totally separate from the wisdom of important crazy jihadi Soamlis is putting them in Minnesota -- about the exact opposite environment where their bodies were designed to live. People were smarter 100-200 years ago when we imported Finns, Swedes, and Norwegians to settle the parts of America that were cold, dark, and snow-covered. Crazy idea, find some ethnic group that already thrives in the snow and maybe not the desert people. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 11:22 PM (ZPrif) RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Next thing someone will say is that our physical differences were created by the environment our ancestors were from.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 21, 2013 07:27 PM (BXLPR)

295 Odierno is absolutely right. The US Army is stretched as far as it can be. If he had to come up with another 30k for some action it would be flat out impossible.>>

I'm sure the best and the brightest could build him a webpage to solve the problem.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 07:27 PM (okL9f)

296 Isn't there some guy around here called 'The Depressive Blogger'? Oh..., wait...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 21, 2013 07:27 PM (aDwsi)

297 I remember Joffen real well too. The CA moron's daughter even followed up with ace and let him know what was going on.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 21, 2013 07:27 PM (jucos)

298 I've read elsewhere that the avg white person needs at least 15 minutes per day of direct sunlight for adequate Vitamin D production. Maybe that was for the paler, Northern European complexion. The more you tend towards olive skin, the more sun you need.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 07:28 PM (ZPrif)

299 290 I hate fucking Vikings. Posted by: johnd01 at October 21, 2013 11:25 PM (r0+v0) --- Your loss.

Posted by: Freya at October 21, 2013 07:28 PM (TnsBL)

300 I'm sure the best and the brightest could build him a webpage to solve the problem. Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 11:27 PM (okL9f) Ever try to use NKO or AKO?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 07:29 PM (t3UFN)

301 I guess we know why Obama is in love with drones now. He's tapped out of actual soldiers.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 07:29 PM (l5zzX)

302 Hey Purp. Where do you think they would pull bodies from if needed? Kid is interested in service academy, senior military college and college ROTC. Heard that college ROTC can be yanked if need be.

Posted by: NCKate at October 21, 2013 07:29 PM (83KrV)

303 Somalis brought to MN by Lutheran churches Tricky Scandis!

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 07:30 PM (zOTsN)

304 Actually, lunch with Null wasn't that long ago -- it was only April 17 of this year. It just seems longer, what with the continuing malaise.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 07:30 PM (T1005)

305 I think it was actually do-gooder Minnesotan liberal Lutheran groups and Catholic Charities that helped settle so many Somalis in Minnesota. I think this really was more a mistake of stupidity and not malice.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 07:30 PM (ZPrif)

306 Bloody Vikings.

Posted by: Freaked Out! at October 21, 2013 07:30 PM (xhhsI)

307 Evenin' all. This is a more better ONT.

Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 07:30 PM (gxMlk)

308 297 I remember Joffen real well too. The CA moron's daughter even followed up with ace and let him know what was going on. Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 21, 2013 11:27 PM (jucos) I *think* the CA moron himself, once he got out of the hospital, came back and ace let him do a post to thank everyone. I believe several of us were able to track him down because in his 'final post' he posted he full real name.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 07:30 PM (bCEmE)

309 Ever try to use NKO or AKO?>>

Don't even know that that means.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 07:31 PM (okL9f)

310 Hey Purp. Where do you think they would pull bodies from if needed? Kid is interested in service academy, senior military college and college ROTC. Heard that college ROTC can be yanked if need be. Posted by: NCKate at October 21, 2013 11:29 PM (83KrV) Don't worry. He or she is safe. They'd have to go thru all the Reserves and National Guard first

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 07:31 PM (t3UFN)

311 Purp, is your stalker gone

Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 07:31 PM (gxMlk)

312

>>> ...quite possibly the worldÂ’s shittiest and most frustrating internet connection.

Pretty sure I got you beat on that. Mine is $100 a month for speeds that almost approach dialup, when it connects. Most of the time it just sits there with nothing.

Posted by: Bomber at October 21, 2013 07:31 PM (4Mwv/)

313 292 -- Cool. I, for one, won't blame myself...I know all I can do is all I can do.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 21, 2013 07:32 PM (5J54Q)

314 Depression has been a problem for me pretty much my whole life. It wasn't something they looked for in kids when I was growing up. Combined with the ADD it made my academic career a real joy.

Today was one of those morning when I couldn't think of any reason to not go back to sleep. No work, nothing that really needed doing, at least not without being in a more motivated move. (I got my stuff into a smaller less costly storage rental over the weekend but I still have to get rid of a fair amount of stuff to eliminate the need for the locker entirely. Feels like erasing my history.)

It's something you live with. Not a day goes by that at some moment I don't think at calling it quits. It generally only happens when I'm alone but if people knew how often I think about nobody would willingly ride in a vehicle I was driving. (The scene with Christopher Walken in Annie Hall comes to mind.)

But I'm 49 and screwed up as I am, I haven't done anything really dire so far.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 07:32 PM (kcfmt)

315 Ever try to use NKO or AKO?>> Don't even know that that means. Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 11:31 PM (okL9f) Navy Knowledge Online and Army Knowledge Online. They suck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 07:32 PM (t3UFN)

316 TR - Okay..., I'll give it a go. Doing alright tonight?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 21, 2013 07:32 PM (aDwsi)

317 You know what I hate worse than fucking Vikings? That's right, fucking Giants.

Posted by: johnd01 at October 21, 2013 07:32 PM (r0+v0)

318 301 - Drones don't complain, ask for raises or bogart your joint.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 21, 2013 07:33 PM (5J54Q)

319 I have the TV on pause are you all telling me the Vikings are still losing? It will save me a couple minutes before I go to bed to know the outcome.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 07:33 PM (okL9f)

320 ah, it was Downfall by Richard Frank--carry on

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 21, 2013 07:34 PM (sQ0LB)

321 What happened in the game? They both lose?

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 07:34 PM (zOTsN)

322 317 You know what I hate worse than fucking Vikings? That's right, fucking Giants. Posted by: johnd01 at October 21, 2013 11:32 PM (r0+v0) --- I can help you with that.

Posted by: Jack the Giant Killer at October 21, 2013 07:34 PM (TnsBL)

323 319 I have the TV on pause are you all telling me the Vikings are still losing? It will save me a couple minutes before I go to bed to know the outcome. Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 11:33 PM (okL9f) 23 - 7 Giants, 3:30 left to play.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 07:34 PM (bCEmE)

324

>>> Navy Knowledge Online and Army Knowledge Online. They suck

It hurts me to say this, but AKO actually sortof works. NKO, on the other hand, is a completely useless POS. Just like almost every other mil website I've ever seen.

Posted by: Bomber at October 21, 2013 07:34 PM (4Mwv/)

325 This is one of the worst football games I ever saw

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 07:35 PM (t3UFN)

326 Doing alright tonight? Posted by: Mike Hammer --------------------------- Yes sir, thanks or asking. I enjoy that other site. I'm fieldgrade there.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 21, 2013 07:35 PM (4Mv1T)

327 Actually was great friends with a Somali Muslim in/after high school. You don't want to go after him and an All You Can Eat breakfast buffet Bacon would be all gone. (Downside, he converted to Baptist and died of heart disease.)

Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 07:35 PM (gxMlk)

328 What happened in the game? They both lose? Posted by: Thunderb It's awful, listening to Gruden rambling endlessly, and two bad teams playing. The Giants will win, but it's been.....ugly.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at October 21, 2013 07:35 PM (v6hyJ)

329 Navy Knowledge --------------- Well, that tee's one up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 21, 2013 07:36 PM (aDwsi)

330 Meh football. Good night, Horde.

Posted by: Gingy at October 21, 2013 07:36 PM (TnsBL)

331 This thread is getting kind of edgy.

Posted by: otho at October 21, 2013 07:36 PM (9gNQd)

332 Actually was great friends with a Somali Muslim in/after high school. You don't want to go after him and an All You Can Eat breakfast buffet Bacon would be all gone. (Downside, he converted to Baptist and died of heart disease.) Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 11:35 PM (gxMlk) But with a smile on his face

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 07:36 PM (t3UFN)

333 267 I remember a couple years ago when someone intimated that they were going to do something to themselves. Northern CA I think. We got together and found this guy in meat space and were able to help him. I forgot his nic. Does anyone other than me remember this?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 21, 2013 11:16 PM (jucos)

I remember the incident though I don't recall the nickname.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 07:37 PM (XnALK)

334 I'm starting to internalize the collapse and embrace it though and that's helped a lot.

Posted by: Purp at October 21, 2013 11:05 PM (l5zzX)

I've come to see it as an impending earthquake that will happen no matter what, the best thing you can do is accept the inevitability and prepare the best you can. Even preparation can get you on the DHS potential terrorist watch list so you have to use discretion and tell as few people as possible.

Hoping that some political leader will come wake us up and save us is at this point a version of Ghost Dancing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Dance

Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2013 07:37 PM (aTXUx)

335 I enjoy that other site. I'm fieldgrade there. Posted by: Tobacco Road ------------- Cool! I just have to figure out how to work the crony angle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at October 21, 2013 07:37 PM (aDwsi)

336

>>> Bacon would be all gone.

>>> (Downside, he converted to Baptist and died of heart disease.)

So, what I'm getting from this story is, if we carpet bombed muslim lands with bacon, we might actually live in peace.

Posted by: Bomber at October 21, 2013 07:37 PM (4Mwv/)

337 Love you weirdos. You are good people. Goodnight.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 21, 2013 07:37 PM (zOTsN)

338 I found the kitteh in the classroom! Good news for the Spite House: TFG's ratings still above Nixon's. In further news, I think maybe I can't take going to the dentist quite as well as I used to. I knew you'd want to know that. I can't imagine having the time to read all the links in the post and 300 comments. So, hm, I'll read one link and, uh, every 50th comment. Or, no, I'll build a program that will scan the blog and display comments at random. GAH! ::brain melts:: And the dentist didn't even use larfing gas. Hello and goodnight, good folks, one and all.

Posted by: mindful webworker vs the decade-old hardware at October 21, 2013 07:38 PM (U13jb)

339 I remember the incident though I don't recall the nickname.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 11:37 PM

He'd probably prefer that we don't remember who is was

Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2013 07:38 PM (aTXUx)

340 The left wants to do to us EXACTLY what Hitler did to that little girl.

Posted by: EROWMER at October 21, 2013 07:38 PM (OONaw)

341 If Jon Gruden, Brent Mussberger and Joe Buck did a football game, would thousands kill themselves listening? Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at October 21, 2013 07:38 PM (v6hyJ)

342 So, what I'm getting from this story is, if we carpet bombed muslim lands with bacon, we might actually live in peace. Posted by: Bomber ----------------------------- And they would live in happiness, quit beating their wives, and leave to goats to their own business.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 21, 2013 07:39 PM (4Mv1T)

343 Recently there has been some discussion of a name for a 3rd party. I have a proposal -- pronounced "Knobs" and spelled noBS.

Unfortunately, the obvious main party platform plank would put the new party is the position of opposing BS. That would place the party in opposition to the largest industry in the world, which also happens to be the largest industry in the U.S., and the largest industry in every one of the 50 states. However, since D.C. is entirely fueled by BS, the knobs would be starting in the right place. Therefore, I hereby put forth the nomination for the new 3rd party name as ..... The noBS party.

http://tinypic.com/r/sb79z5/5

Posted by: jc at October 21, 2013 07:40 PM (PlzOe)

344 317 You know what I hate worse than fucking Vikings? That's right, fucking Giants. Posted by: johnd01 at October 21, 2013 11:32 PM (r0+v0) Even more worser is fucking PeeWee league. I hate it. If there is a punishment for my 'friendliness' please don't make me coach PeeWee football.

Posted by: Reid, Harry nic -'PlaysWithBalls' at October 21, 2013 07:40 PM (LpbKr)

345 23 - 7 Giants, 3:30 left to play.>>

I left at giants 10 ViQueens 7 WTF Ponder was putting up 30 plus points a game in the first 4 loses.

But thank You I will not have to run through that mess to be diss a pointed.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 07:40 PM (okL9f)

346 273 267 I remember a couple years ago when someone intimated that they were going to do something to themselves. Northern CA I think. We got together and found this guy in meat space and were able to help him. I forgot his nic. Does anyone other than me remember this? Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 21, 2013 11:16 PM (jucos) Yep....can't remember his name but several found his address and phone number. Called his house to alert them and sure enough he had taken a gun and gone out. They notified the police who found him. Scary that was. Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 11:17 PM I remember that, as well. I, too, forget who it was (a day-walker), but I remember the frantic action by The Horde...

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 21, 2013 07:41 PM (JMmQ9)

347 I wonder what the percentage of depressives amongst the Horde is.

Hand up here, to be sure. Though it's been years since it's been bad.

I recall a study in which it was found that those prone to depression are also those who most accurately characterize real-world situations, without any rose-colored glasses altering their assessments. Given what a diarrhea drizzle the real world is these days, no wonder it's hard on the depressed.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 21, 2013 07:41 PM (gqT4g)

348
Odierno is absolutely right. The US Army is stretched as far as it can be. If he had to come up with another 30k for some action it would be flat out impossible.

Posted by: Purp at October 21, 2013 11:24 PM (l5zzX)

I'm coming more and more to regard that as a good thing.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 07:41 PM (XnALK)

349 I just have to figure out how to work the crony angle. Posted by: Mike Hammer ------------------------- if I catch your drift, you can be whoever you want, and I'll recognize you. Always do.

Plus we can send private messages there since it is a forum, and not a blog.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 21, 2013 07:41 PM (4Mv1T)

350 (Downside, he converted to Baptist and died of heart disease.) Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 11:35 PM (gxMlk) But with a smile on his face Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 21, 2013 11:36 PM (t3UFN) Yep. His family basically disowned him. I'm sure if they could get away with an honor killing they would have tried.

Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 07:42 PM (LpbKr)

351 For anybody who is having problems with depression/anxiety, be sure to actually see a doctor and get basic blood work done. There are many diseases and conditions that have depression and/or anxiety as symptoms. It's not very expensive to get a basic blood panel done. Have them check your Vitamin D, too. And thyroid levels. Standard stuff. Depression and anxiety and mental health problems in general are diagnoses you come to only after you've ruled out other causes. My point is, don't just assume it's psychological without first ruling out more proximate physical causes. Which means basically go see a doctor, cause a good doctor will do the standard blood work.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 07:43 PM (ZPrif)

352 the law prof talks too fast; some profs talk too fast, but many talk too slow

with the 'uhs' and 'ums', it takes an hour to get across a 10-minute message

most of which ( if in the social sciences or humanities ) is mostly Crap

Posted by: Vasily the Wily Ukrainian at October 21, 2013 07:44 PM (omBWL)

353 I'm starting to internalize the collapse and embrace it though and that's helped a lot. Posted by: Purp at October 21, 2013 11:05 PM Purp, I'm not being flip...I'm in the same space. I saw this over at WRSA this morning, excuse the bad paraphrase, por favor: "I came into this world kicking and screaming, covered in someone else's blood. I'm quite content exiting in the same fashion."

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 21, 2013 07:44 PM (JMmQ9)

354 336 >>> Bacon would be all gone. >>> (Downside, he converted to Baptist and died of heart disease.) So, what I'm getting from this story is, if we carpet bombed muslim lands with bacon, we might actually live in peace. Posted by: Bomber at October 21, 2013 11:37 PM (4Mwv/) Peace through bacon If Reagan has this as a slogan, he would have won 50 states instead of 49.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 21, 2013 07:44 PM (BXLPR)

355 Hell, even a bad doctor should be able to order the standard blood work.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 07:45 PM (ZPrif)

356 >>> (Downside, he converted to Baptist and died of heart disease.) So, what I'm getting from this story is, if we carpet bombed muslim lands with bacon, we might actually live in peace. Posted by: Bomber at October 21, 2013 11:37 PM (4Mwv/) Precisely. And i read that again and it sounds like I said converting to Baptist was a downside, no, just the dying part.

Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 07:45 PM (LpbKr)

357 Re: Depression My mom, my dad (RIP), my two baby sisters, and my younger brother are all on anti-depressants. Me? Scotch seems to keep the demons at bay. And only after 5PM. Not sure how long my liver can stand it, but if one thing don't get you, another one will. Right?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at October 21, 2013 07:45 PM (4Mv1T)

358 331 This thread is getting kind of edgy.

Posted by: otho at October 21, 2013 11:36 PM (9gNQd)

===

"there's a chick who's paid to be my slave ....."

Posted by: jc at October 21, 2013 07:46 PM (PlzOe)

359 Bacon would be all gone.>>

In the grocery store maybe. But it wont all be gone.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 07:47 PM (okL9f)

360

And now for my favorite stupid joke.......

Why did the monkey fall out of the tree?

Posted by: madamemayhem at October 21, 2013 07:47 PM (S2RnE)

361 308 297 I remember Joffen real well too. The CA moron's daughter even followed up with ace and let him know what was going on.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at October 21, 2013 11:27 PM (jucos)

I *think* the CA moron himself, once he got out of the hospital, came back and ace let him do a post to thank everyone.

I believe several of us were able to track him down because in his 'final post' he posted he full real name.

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 11:30 PM (bCEmE)

In both cases, we had crowdsourced moron detective work and a caring, decent, and ultimately effective moronic response. I'm very proud of the way the Horde handled both cases and would urge those in the grip of such feelings to reach out to the Horde....making sure, of course, not to end up with anyone who smells like feline urination or hails from Brattleboro.

I'm always happy to see Joffen when he comes through.....and hope that someday he'll proudly report that his dear daughter is eagerly anticipating her ringbearer duties when he ties the knot anew.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 07:47 PM (T1005)

362 If Obama needed a bunch of troops fast and had burned through the guard/reserves, they'd start activating the "inactive reserve".

When I got out, everyone had like 7 years on inactive reserve before you were truly free and clear. You didn't have to do anything like showing up monthly as guard/reserve do, but they could call you back during that period.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 07:48 PM (l5zzX)

363 this year's vikings stink worse than lutafisk. bad lutafisk.

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at October 21, 2013 07:49 PM (rkewj)

364 Who is Thulsa Doom and what the fuck does he have to do with Conan?

Posted by: Ma Bell at October 21, 2013 07:49 PM (RLdcX)

365

Epobirs, I hear ya - the ADD is what leads to the depression, for me, but I could never go there - mom trying as a kid left me with a real distaste for those that pull that kinda drama. Ultimate act of selfishness, I say - little or no sympathy from me - SIL succeeded a couple of years back - oh the mess she left behind ...

TW, you are correct ...

Flatbush Joe - going there - at least I don't have syphilis!!! woo! CAT scan on Wed ...

So, on a more positive angle - what's your best tip for fighting the darkness? For me, right now, it's embracing the love and help my family is offering ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 07:49 PM (/oZbq)

366 363 this year's vikings stink worse than lutafisk. bad lutafisk.

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at October 21, 2013 11:49 PM (rkewj)

====

which necessitates an obvious question -- is there good lutafisk?

Posted by: jc at October 21, 2013 07:50 PM (PlzOe)

367

... it was dead.

Why did the squirrel fall out of the tree?

Posted by: madamemayhem at October 21, 2013 07:50 PM (S2RnE)

368 When I got out, everyone had like 7 years on inactive reserve before you were truly free and clear. You didn't have to do anything like showing up monthly as guard/reserve do, but they could call you back during that period. Posted by: Purp at October 21, 2013 11:48 PM (l5zzX) I think my son has 2 1/2 years to go on inactive reserve.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 07:51 PM (bCEmE)

369 Another interstate that should exist: Houston to Austin. Yeah, I know, that's just within Texas. Interstate here just means to the standards of the interstate highway system. I'm fine if they just build an expressway that isn't technically part of the Interstate system. Any type of road that doesn't involved stop lights is fine.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 07:51 PM (ZPrif)

370 The Vikings are worse than the Giants, who are pretty bad--buy have been beseiged with injury. Josh Freeman is a terrible passer.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at October 21, 2013 07:52 PM (Usdw3)

371

It was stapled to the monkey!!!

Yeh, I said it was a stupid joke.

I find it funny.

Posted by: madamemayhem at October 21, 2013 07:52 PM (S2RnE)

372 which necessitates an obvious question -- is there good lutafisk?

Posted by: jc at October 21, 2013 11:50 PM (PlzOe)

couldn't tell you. once a year mom would make it for dad, but i could never get past the stench to try tasting it.

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at October 21, 2013 07:53 PM (rkewj)

373 Another interstate that should exist: Houston to Austin. Yeah, I know, that's just within Texas. Interstate here just means to the standards of the interstate highway system. I'm fine if they just build an expressway that isn't technically part of the Interstate system. Any type of road that doesn't involved stop lights is fine. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 11:51 PM But you'd miss all the really good ice-houses..

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 21, 2013 07:53 PM (JMmQ9)

374 Even in FL I'm affected by SADD. I put in a bunch of daylight spectrum bulbs since last winter. I'll see how that works out.

Going off DST is brutal.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 07:53 PM (l5zzX)

375 Who is Thulsa Doom and what the fuck does he have to do with Conan? *** Is he the band leader on the show?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 07:53 PM (DmNpO)

376
"I came into this world kicking and screaming, covered in someone else's blood. I'm quite content exiting in the same fashion."

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 21 , 2013 11:44 PM (JMmQ9)

That is awesome!!

Reminds me of this one:

"When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming like the passengers in his car."

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 07:54 PM (XnALK)

377 Going off DST is brutal. *** I hate it!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 07:54 PM (DmNpO)

378 My mom, my dad (RIP), my two baby sisters, and my younger brother are all on anti-depressants.

Me? Scotch seems to keep the demons at bay. And only after 5PM. >>

Several of my Family take anti-depressants but Rum is my answer.
Don't you also have a significant other to keep you in line or am I thinning of a different poster?

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 07:55 PM (okL9f)

379 Thulsa Doom was the villain in the first Conan movie, played by James Earl Jones with such belivable evil and malice that he's one of the best villains ever IMO.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 21, 2013 07:55 PM (sQ0LB)

380 this year's vikings stink worse than lutafisk. bad lutafisk.

Posted by: muttering vikings fan at October 21, 2013 11:49 PM (rkewj)

at least they're not the Jags?

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 07:55 PM (vJdyz)

381 When, exactly, do the clocks change?

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 21, 2013 07:56 PM (JMmQ9)

382

There is supposed to be a "ports to plains" freeway starting in Laredo, encompassing I-27, and coming up through CO and into the Dakotas. Of course, highway funds from stimulus only went to Blueish states and Libs hate roads anyway. This is the same NAFTA highway of doom some whackos think is a bad thing.

Was the monkey wearing a high vis safety vest?

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 07:56 PM (/oZbq)

383 #355

There is blood work and there is blood work.

In 1988 I ended up in hospital I thought I was truly losing my mind. I'd always had depression but I'd become increasingly lethargic and unable to do my job. I thought I was fatigued and would try to nap in my car but to no avail. Turned out I had mono but the doctor I'd gone to didn't check for it because I didn't have a sore throat.

It wasn't a zebra, just a slightly abnormal horse but as far as he was concerned, mono without throat soreness wasn't worth looking for. Really screwed up my life.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 07:56 PM (kcfmt)

384 Less than two weeks of DST left until the suck begins

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 07:57 PM (l5zzX)

385 First Sunday of November, I believe, for clock change

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 21, 2013 07:57 PM (sQ0LB)

386 379 Thulsa Doom was the villain in the first Conan movie, played by James Earl Jones with such belivable evil and malice that he's one of the best villains ever IMO. Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 21, 2013 11:55 PM (sQ0LB That movie was utter bullshit and had nothing to do with the Conan stories

Posted by: Ma Bell at October 21, 2013 07:57 PM (RLdcX)

387 Nov 3 this year.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 07:58 PM (l5zzX)

388 http://www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b.html

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 07:58 PM (l5zzX)

389 The 710 Freeway in LA County was planned from the start to go through to the 210. This goes back to the 1950s. It still ends at Valley Blvd. in Alhambra and causes a daily traffic nightmare.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 07:58 PM (kcfmt)

390 379 Thulsa Doom was the villain in the first Conan movie, played by James Earl Jones with such belivable evil and malice that he's one of the best villains ever IMO. Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 21, 2013 11:55 PM (sQ0LB) Have you seen JEJ in the new Sprint commercial? It's pretty funny. http://tinyurl.com/mj23lbm

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 07:58 PM (bCEmE)

391 James Earl Jones was one of Major Kong's crew members

the conspiracy.........it's everywhere

Posted by: Vasily the Wily Ukrainian at October 21, 2013 07:59 PM (omBWL)

392 Well, Ma Bell, we're gonna have to agree to disagree on that one.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 21, 2013 07:59 PM (sQ0LB)

393 which necessitates an obvious question -- is there good lutafisk?>>

Likely there is something your mom made for the holidays that you crave and can't be replicated. I wont go near lutefisk but I still get why people like and crave it .

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 07:59 PM (okL9f)

394 Howdy, 'rons n' ettes. I see folks looking for S.A.D. and Vitamin D UV-therapy. Just so happens I know a little about this... lol.

If you're looking for a home product, I would advise short-wave UVB-intense lamps. (Unless it is for Psoriasis. Long-wave has proven to be better, but harder to find.) There are small products, (the size of a large toaster), that'll do a nice 15-min 'facial'. Three times per week should be enough for those concerned about the aging-effects of the UVA radiation.

The side-effect is a nice tan. If the UVB is 1.0+, (30% UVB), you'll only want to spend 15-20 minutes under that light. Darker complexions can go for thirty minutes, however. I wouldn't suggest ANY MORE.... Moreover, an ALARM CLOCK because it can be very comfy! Again, three times per week should be plenty, but that's up to you.

Small home products, (hand-wands) are around $200+, and are mainly for treatment of psoriasis and vitiligo. Used tanning beds can be anywhere from $500-to-$2,000. Look for something with at least 24 bulbs and around $800-to-$1,000. Replacement bulbs will be $10-to-$20 each. It ain't cheap. DO NOT BUY $8.00 BULBS! (Unless you want to look like a zebra-from-prison!)

I always used Wolff System products, but there are other good bulbs out there. The electricity used will probably be around one dollar per session and you'll a 220 outlet.

I've never used one of those large bulbs that look like outdoor floodlights, so I cannot speak to how effective they are. They also need a special setup, as you can't just screw them into your local fixture... lol.

Tanning salons will run you anywhere from $25-to-$50/month. Probably closer to $25/mo now through the end of February. Go three times a week, or as "needed".

It DOES help. If you go this time of year and the place isn't heated well, ask your Tanning Moron to run the bed before you get there. They can be chilly!

And if you DO tan, there's no real "need" for special tanning lotions, unless you're trying to set some sort of personal "record". Moisturize, Moisturize, Moisturize!

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 07:59 PM (lq3Ak)

395 384 Less than two weeks of DST left until the suck begins

Posted by: Purp at October 21, 2013 11:57 PM (l5zzX)

Wait a second....isn't this the GOOD direction?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 07:59 PM (T1005)

396 That movie was utter bullshit and had nothing to do with the Conan stories

Posted by: Ma Bell at October 21, 2013 11:57 PM (RLdcX)

Please list the better Conan movies...in order.

Posted by: AD at October 21, 2013 08:00 PM (NmpZu)

397 Thulsa Doom first appeared in a King Kull story written by Conan creator Robert E. Howard. He later appeared in Conan stories.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 21, 2013 08:00 PM (5J54Q)

398 Wait a second....isn't this the GOOD direction?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 11:59 PM (T1005)

yep

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 08:00 PM (vJdyz)

399 scene: noBS spokesperson being interviewed by Joe Scarborough

JS: So, what can you tell me about the new noBS party?

noBS: Nothing, we have no interest in talking to anyone at your network because we opposed to BS. Thanks for playing. Bye, now.

Posted by: jc at October 21, 2013 08:01 PM (PlzOe)

400

Chickens wearing high vis safety vests:

http://tinyurl.com/kouphzu

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 08:01 PM (/oZbq)

401 http://tinyurl.com/mj23lbm Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 11:58 PM (bCEmE) I AM BY THE LINENS. WHERE ARE YOU?!

Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 08:01 PM (LpbKr)

402 On the bright side, last week's break in South FL's humidity should "fall back" into place by then.

Posted by: adams indian slumber porn at October 21, 2013 08:02 PM (gQKHE)

403 Part of the standard bevy of questions all doctors have to ask you, every time, no matter what business brought you to them, is "Do you suffer from depression?"

Like asking you that is going to help anything or anybody. After Thomas Eagleton, nobody still clinging to their right mind would ever answer affirmatively. It will be used against you, in ways that might not become clear for decades.

So I always say,"Suffer? No. I'm from the East Side. It's a lifestyle choice."

And so far that has shut every one of them up. But foreigners may not get it.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 21, 2013 08:02 PM (JNUY4)

404
It wasn't a zebra, just a slightly abnormal horse but as far as he was concerned, mono without throat soreness wasn't worth looking for. Really screwed up my life.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 11:56 PM (kcfmt)

Have had plenty of experience with Doctors inadequate to the task of accurate diagnosis. Fortunately, one of my good friends turned out to be a pretty damn good doctor, and that has no longer been a problem for my family.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 08:02 PM (XnALK)

405 In 1988 I ended up in hospital I thought I was truly losing my mind. I'd always had depression but I'd become increasingly lethargic and unable to do my job. I thought I was fatigued and would try to nap in my car but to no avail. Turned out I had mono but the doctor I'd gone to didn't check for it because I didn't have a sore throat.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 11:56 PM (kcfmt)

I once thought I had mono for an entire year. It turned out I was just really bored.

Posted by: Wayne Campbell at October 21, 2013 08:02 PM (hpYnL)

406 Adult Swim sells home decor. Who knew? http://bit.ly/1eu93zp

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 08:02 PM (DmNpO)

407 Night all....

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 08:03 PM (bCEmE)

408 per IMDB.com; Thulsa Doom had cameo appearances in The Road Warrior, Apocalypse Now, and The Bridges of Madison County.

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 21, 2013 08:03 PM (JMmQ9)

409 I95 dead ends onto US1 (a surface street) right near Vizcaya in the Gables. World class suckage there at certain times of the day.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 08:04 PM (l5zzX)

410

Thulsa Doom was Kull's primary adversary--so a Howard character. Wikipedia (I know, I know) says that he is basically Thoth-Amon, a nemesis of Conan, with a different name as portrayed in the movie.

Regardless of faithfulness to the source material, I stand by my statement of the awesomeness of that character as played by JEJ.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 21, 2013 08:04 PM (sQ0LB)

411 Exercise and sunlight are well documented to alleviate depression and anxiety. So does spending time with friends and family and meaningful work. Human beings are social creatures. We are not built to live alone. Here's my personal evolutionary psych theory for certain types of depression: In early human times, hunter-gatherer times, if you found yourself alone all day it was because you had seriously fucked up. It meant you were being shunned by the tribe. Maybe even kicked out. In hunter-gatherer times that was likely a death sentence. You can't survive on your own. So the body responds by making you sad. Making you want to cry and confess your sins and beg forgiveness. Your brain doesn't care who's right. It just is saying, do whatever you have to do , say whatever you have to say, to get back in the good graces of the tribe. Cause otherwise we're gonna die. Cry, grovel, beg, weep, anything, everything. Cause winter's coming. Other the other tribe is coming. Or the wolves are coming. We aren't built to live alone. Yet the modern world makes that possible. Makes less human contact possible than ever before. We can live by ourselves and not starve to death. Or be murdered by wolves or a marauding invader tribes. But our brains aren't built for that. Part of our brains will always interpret being alone as a life-threatening danger, because for most of human history it was. Ten thousand years ago if you found yourself alone every night for a week -- something profoundly wrong and life-threatening had happened in your life. You'd been shunned. Your tribe had been attacked. You'd gotten lost on the hunt. Something really, really bad had occurred. Today that's just how millions of people live.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 08:04 PM (ZPrif)

412 401
http://tinyurl.com/mj23lbm

Posted by: Tami - GO CARDS - WOOHOO!!! at October 21, 2013 11:58 PM (bCEmE)

I AM BY THE LINENS. WHERE ARE YOU?!

Posted by: RWC at October 22, 2013 12:01 AM (LpbKr)

Oh, yeah -- it's not creepy that they intercepted and recorded that call. Not even a teensy bit.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 08:04 PM (T1005)

413

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 12:02 AM (DmNpO)

makes me want a urinal in the house for some reason

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 08:04 PM (vJdyz)

414 Work is done, out. Later, morons and 'ettes.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at October 21, 2013 08:06 PM (sQ0LB)

415 405 In 1988 I ended up in hospital I thought I was
truly losing my mind. I'd always had depression but I'd become
increasingly lethargic and unable to do my job. I thought I was fatigued
and would try to nap in my car but to no avail. Turned out I had mono
but the doctor I'd gone to didn't check for it because I didn't have a
sore throat.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 11:56 PM (kcfmt)

I once thought I had mono for an entire year. It turned out I was just really bored.

Posted by: Wayne Campbell at October 22, 2013 12:02 AM (hpYnL)

I would have guessed thyroid.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 08:06 PM (T1005)

416 Ah yes, Thulsa Doom, a Disciple of mine.

Posted by: Jim Jones at October 21, 2013 08:06 PM (rkewj)

417 Wait a second....isn't this the GOOD direction? *** No. It will be dark at 5:30 in the afternoon.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 08:06 PM (DmNpO)

418 Wait a second....isn't this the GOOD direction?

Pitch black at 5pm? NO thanks.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 08:06 PM (l5zzX)

419 Just cause the NSA already has this info. I was diagnosed as a Functional alcoholic.

Not sure what that means but I guess i am still functional since I still have a job.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 08:07 PM (okL9f)

420 I retired from the Army after 22 years and had no inactive reserve time. I did have what were called "Hip Pocket Orders" until I turned 60! I live 10 miles from the main training base for my specialty, guess where the orders would have sent me. Clean across the freaking US!

Posted by: Old Dog at October 21, 2013 08:07 PM (tQYJH)

421 scene: noBS spokesperson being interviewed by Joe Scarborough

JS: Hey, you can't just blow me off because you think my network is all BS !!

noBS: It's not just me, everyone -- including you -- thinks your network is all BS.

Posted by: jc at October 21, 2013 08:08 PM (PlzOe)

422 Human beings are social creatures. We are not built to live alone.

I'm pretty sure living alone is what keeps me out of prison for murder though.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 08:08 PM (l5zzX)

423 Just cause the NSA already has this info. I was diagnosed as a Functional alcoholic. Not sure what that means but I guess i am still functional since I still have a job. Posted by: The Hickster at October 22, 2013 12:07 AM we should form an association, or something

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 21, 2013 08:09 PM (JMmQ9)

424 Well said FJ - that's why I've realized I have to get another job, out of the house, to get better this time ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 08:10 PM (/oZbq)

425 #403

I'd say I'm Russian by ancestry and it's my heritage. Ukrainian really but it still works.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 08:10 PM (kcfmt)

426
Ten thousand years ago if you found yourself alone every night for a week -- something profoundly wrong and life-threatening had happened in your life. You'd been shunned. Your tribe had been attacked. You'd gotten lost on the hunt. Something really, really bad had occurred.

Today that's just how millions of people live.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2013 12:04 AM (ZPrif)

I have an alternative theory which I think better fits the facts, but i'll be damned if i'm going to describe it in this thread where someone is saying that they hope they don't live through the end of the month.

But it really is a pretty good theory.

A hint is that the human species has a fractal resemblance to a a single organism.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 08:10 PM (XnALK)

427 makes me want a urinal in the house for some reason *** It would really class up the joint

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 08:10 PM (DmNpO)

428 With that walkback of DADT you can't even claim you turned gay anymore to dodge a callup.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 08:10 PM (l5zzX)

429 I'd rather watch the Tubgirl video on loop for three hours than re-watch that game.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 21, 2013 08:11 PM (X9Mnx)

430 Human beings are social creatures. We are not built to live alone. Most human contact is vastly over-rated.

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 21, 2013 08:12 PM (JMmQ9)

431
No. It will be dark at 5:30 in the afternoon.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 12:06 AM (DmNpO)

That doesn't bother me. It is more than offset by the fact that I get to sleep an hour later!

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 08:12 PM (XnALK)

432 418 Wait a second....isn't this the GOOD direction?

Pitch black at 5pm? NO thanks.

Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 12:06 AM (l5zzX)

When I was running production at Synchronous, I used to roam the factory floor after dark when everyone had left and figure out my bottlenecks. When everyone got in the next morning, there'd be post-its all over the place spelling out what needed to be done....and then I'd drag my sorry ass in a while later.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 08:12 PM (T1005)

433

Ooooo I like where your going DL, I have similar theories (cough cough, ahem ahem)

Ask me about brontosauruses

Posted by: Anne Elk at October 21, 2013 08:13 PM (/oZbq)

434 I mentioned last week that my job was eliminated, this has had a huge effect on my mental well being. I'm not saying I'm suicidal, but I have had huge panic attacks and I'm really freaking out about what to do. Life sometimes does truly suck.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at October 21, 2013 08:14 PM (nD2pm)

435 Ouch Gozer sorry to hear that ...need to count my blessings ...

Posted by: Anne Elk at October 21, 2013 08:15 PM (/oZbq)

436 428 With that walkback of DADT you can't even claim you turned gay anymore to dodge a callup. Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 12:10 AM (l5zzX) Racist tranny necrophiliac has worked well so far. Of course ^RTN Pride^ will fuck that up now.

Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 08:15 PM (LpbKr)

437 Ooooo I like where your going DL, I have similar theories (cough cough, ahem ahem)
Ask me about brontosauruses

Posted by: Anne Elk at October 22, 2013 12:13 AM (/oZbq)

Okay, What about brontosauri?

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 08:15 PM (XnALK)

438 389 The 710 Freeway in LA County was planned from the start to go through to the 210. This goes back to the 1950s. It still ends at Valley Blvd. in Alhambra and causes a daily traffic nightmare.
Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 11:58 PM

So was the 110, ends at Glenarm St in Pasadena

If you want to see unfinished or freeways not even started, New Jersey is the worst

It takes years just to repair on overpass in The Police State of New Jersey

Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2013 08:15 PM (aTXUx)

439 Human beings are social creatures. We are not built to live alone.>>

It depends on what your definition of alone is.

I live by myself in a house but I still have contact with family and friends. I can go weeks with no contact from them and I'm Ok. I work also so I do see and interact with people I care nothing about 5 days a week.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 08:16 PM (okL9f)

440 433
Ooooo I like where your going DL, I have similar theories (cough cough, ahem ahem)
Ask me about brontosauruses

Posted by: Anne Elk at October 22, 2013 12:13 AM (/oZbq)

As I understand it, you have a theory. A theory, which you have -- which is yours -- about the brontosaurus. This theory -- your theory -- cannot be ascribed to anyone else, because it is yours. In fact, there is no one else who could possibly expound your theory because you are the source of it.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 08:17 PM (T1005)

441 Yeah well, evolutionary psychology is for fags, and I mean that with some degree of commitment. Take a look back through the history of the hobby. They're woman-haters, too. Fey Regency dandies with It All Figured Out.

I have a suspicion that a form of cross-breeding -- nothing to simple as racialism, but think big here, like the melding of Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons -- left us with distinct and occasionally at-odds inner daemons. No way to prove that, and probably never will be, ergo also can't be disproven, so it's as valid as Climate Science and somewhat more useful.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 21, 2013 08:17 PM (JNUY4)

442 I mentioned last week that my job was eliminated, this has had a huge effect on my mental well being. I'm not saying I'm suicidal, but I have had huge panic attacks and I'm really freaking out about what to do. Life sometimes does truly suck. *** Have you started looking for work yet? If so, how's it going?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 08:18 PM (DmNpO)

443 It's also how things like facebook and twitter and the internet are like relationship-porn. Just like porn, they give the illusion of the real thing. And it satisfies part of the brain, but not all or enough of it. Our brains just aren't built to live in a world where we can look at hot naked chicks but not actually be in the same room as hot naked chicks. So the brain rewards us for looking at porn, way to go, keep doing what you're doing! Look at all the hot naked chicks you've attracted. Same with gossip mags. In hunter gatherer times if the studliest dude and hottest chick were confiding their most intimate secrets to you that meant you were super well-connected in the tribe. No worries about getting your share of meat from the hunt. The tribal chief, Peyton Manning, and his #1 wife, Miley Cyrus, are your close personal friends. It's a survival strategy. We are built to want to get close and befriend the leaders in the tribe cause they decide who eats and who doesn't. In the modern world that instinct is perverted into TMZ and ESPN and celebrity worship and jock-sniffing. In hunter-gatherer times the strongest, most athletic dude this year was probably gonna be tribal chief next year, so it's really important to get on his good side. And video games, of course, are achievement-porn. Our tribal brain thinks we are mastering some important skill the tribe will admire and respect -- like we're becoming the best fisherman or hunter or something, and not just mastering a dungeon in Zelda. The modern world is constantly hacking our tribal brain in many self-destructive ways.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 08:19 PM (ZPrif)

444 Scene: noBS spokesperson being interviewed by Joe Scarborough

JS: You can't seriously believe you can have an entire political party built solely on the opposition to BS.

noBS: Why not? We never have to rewrite the platform and we'll never run out of material. Anything anybody in the media or either of the other parties says will only serve to illustrate our point.

Of course, you could join the Knobs, but you would have to quit your job.

Posted by: jc at October 21, 2013 08:19 PM (PlzOe)

445 It seems that the so called infrastructure spending that Jugears yakked about was a few spur routes favored by Dem hacks, but mostly "High Speed Rail" where no one wants or needs them

Rick Scott turned down funding for a HS rail line to run the 84 miles from Tampa to Orlando running alongside I-4. The lefties screamed about all the free money that Scott turned down that would save gaia, but Scott was smart enough to know that after the first handout the line no one else wanted would be a white elephant that would keep the state in heavy debt for decades

Posted by: kbdabear at October 21, 2013 08:20 PM (aTXUx)

446 434 I mentioned last week that my job was eliminated, this has had a huge effect on my mental well being. I'm not saying I'm suicidal, but I have had huge panic attacks and I'm really freaking out about what to do. Life sometimes does truly suck.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at October 22, 2013 12:14 AM (nD2pm)

I feel for you man. I can't offer much in the way of encouragement other than perhaps noting that the rest of the country may not be very far behind you in this experience.

I worry greatly that we are heading into something very ugly.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 08:20 PM (XnALK)

447 I can't wait for porn on the Oculus Rift

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 08:20 PM (vJdyz)

448 442 I mentioned last week that my job was eliminated, this has had a huge effect on my mental well being. I'm not saying I'm suicidal, but I have had huge panic attacks and I'm really freaking out about what to do. Life sometimes does truly suck. *** Have you started looking for work yet? If so, how's it going? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 12:18 AM (DmNpO) And where are you located and what do you do?

Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 08:20 PM (LpbKr)

449 Started looking, and there is some hope. In my good moments I feel like it will work out. In my bad moments I feel utterly hopeless. So, if anyone needs a JD/MBA for anything, I mop a mean floor.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at October 21, 2013 08:21 PM (nD2pm)

450 Diogenes, now you know why I root for SMOD.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at October 21, 2013 08:22 PM (nD2pm)

451 When I say people I mean on average, of course. The people who frequent this site are a self-selected group who do seem to require less human contact than avg. It's also a self-selected group that appears to be more depressive than avg. So perhaps there is some under-estimation of how much human contact they require.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 08:23 PM (ZPrif)

452 RWC, I'm in St. Louis and I've been working for Reuters (the enemy) selling legal products to law schools.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at October 21, 2013 08:23 PM (nD2pm)

453 Started looking, and there is some hope. In my good moments I feel like it will work out. In my bad moments I feel utterly hopeless. So, if anyone needs a JD/MBA for anything, I mop a mean floor. *** Check the railroads. Lots of management jobs there. They pay well and have great benefits. CSX, Norfolk-Southern, Union Pacific, Burlington-Northern, and Rail America are a few places to start.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 08:25 PM (DmNpO)

454

<cough cough> They are very thin at one end, very thick in the middle, and very thin at the other end <cough cough>

Posted by: Anne Elk at October 21, 2013 08:26 PM (/oZbq)

455 Railroads, interesting. I'll start looking.at those tomorrow.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at October 21, 2013 08:26 PM (nD2pm)

456 Joking aside, the humans as "organism" thing is something I think about a lot ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 08:27 PM (/oZbq)

457 The discussion brings this to mind, which I came across earlier today. It seems that in the land of hot Japanese girls, people are not only not having children, they aren't even bothering with sex at all.

http://tinyurl.com/ktyzezx

Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 08:27 PM (kcfmt)

458 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2013 12:19 AM (ZPrif)

I concur with much of your thinking along these lines. I have always used the primitive society as the means by which human thinking and instinct were derived. There are a lot of cross connections between survival in a group and individual instinct.

My theory on where suicidal impulses come from stems from this exact relationship (survival, individual, group) you mentioned. I think you can probably see where I'm going with it.

Don't really want to elaborate though.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 08:27 PM (XnALK)

459 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 21, 2013 08:27 PM (JawqV)

460 and then I'd drag my sorry ass in a while later.

When unconstrained by forced meeting or similar shit, I used to drag myself into the office at IBM around the crack of 2pm, then leave around 8-9pm, and get the real work done at home in the 10pm-4am time slot.

After 5pm at IBM was when the people who got the real work done crept out of the shadows after all the drones had bolted for the doors.

When unconstrained by daylight mandatory things, I've always rotated my bio-schedule to vampire hours.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 08:27 PM (l5zzX)

461 FML. 0-3 in fantasy football two weeks straight.

Posted by: logprof at October 21, 2013 08:27 PM (4BA+Y)

462 Next time some Holocaust denier starts flapping his gums ask him this: During the Nuremberg trials over 50,000 people were interviewed concerning their role in it. Every excuse known to man was given except one: that it never happened. Defy any Holocaust denier to find in the records of Nuremberg any mention that it never occurred. You'd think someone would have used it . . . .

Posted by: The Man from Athens at October 21, 2013 08:28 PM (RXQ2T)

463

Posted by: Epobirs at October 22, 2013 12:27 AM (kcfmt)

on a related note, onaholes sales are still going up (I can't find a link to where I saw it atm)

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 08:28 PM (vJdyz)

464 I'm watching a new show on Comedy Central, 'At Midnight'. It's a Jeopardy rip-off with comediennes. It's pretty funny.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 08:28 PM (DmNpO)

465 I mentioned last week that my job was eliminated, this has had a huge effect on my mental well being. I'm not saying I'm suicidal, but I have had huge panic attacks and I'm really freaking out about what to do. Life sometimes does truly suck. >>

I am working through a divorce that took my balls (energy to do productive things at home). I know I've let this fester way to long as an excuse to not do shit like* paint ,clean, the garage etc. I now know the problem and am having problems solving it because I let it fester too long. Don't let the outside fuck up your home life.

*Probably not your issues.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 08:30 PM (okL9f)

466 450 Diogenes, now you know why I root for SMOD.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at October 22, 2013 12:22 AM (nD2pm)

Understandable. I think we are getting to a point where most of us are rooting for SMOD. Didn't the bible mention something about people calling for the mountains to fall on them or some such?

I wish you luck, and perhaps someone here can send you a lead or something.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 08:30 PM (XnALK)

467 When I say people I mean on average, of course. The people who frequent this site are a self-selected group who do seem to require less human contact than avg. It's also a self-selected group that appears to be more depressive than avg. So perhaps there is some under-estimation of how much human contact they require. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2013 12:23 AM Not "more depressive than average", rather more "fcuk you" than average. No directed at you, Flatbush, but you know what I mean.

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 21, 2013 08:31 PM (JMmQ9)

468 Railroads, interesting. I'll start looking.at those tomorrow. *** The best of luck in your search. And, remember, when you feel down, come here for a quick pick-me-up. We're open 24/7/365

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 08:31 PM (DmNpO)

469 460 and then I'd drag my sorry ass in a while later.

When unconstrained by forced meeting or similar shit, I used to drag myself into the office at IBM around the crack of 2pm, then leave around 8-9pm, and get the real work done at home in the 10pm-4am time slot.

After 5pm at IBM was when the people who got the real work done crept out of the shadows after all the drones had bolted for the doors.

When unconstrained by daylight mandatory things, I've always rotated my bio-schedule to vampire hours.

Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 12:27 AM (l5zzX)

I thought I was pushing it with showing up at 10.....and if you're leaving at 8-9pm, why should you care if it's Daylight Wasting Time or not?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 08:32 PM (T1005)

470 The opposite of "depressive" is often "stupid." I certainly can't be the first to notice that. It's that solitary figure stalking the factory floor at midnight who makes the gears turn for all the smile-face little people who depend on that factory for its products and their livelihood.

"Henry Rearden is the kind of man who puts his name on every thing he owns. You may make of that statement what you will."

When I am happy, which is not all that often, I'm happy for real. It's worth it.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 21, 2013 08:32 PM (JNUY4)

471 Hickster, seems depression and bad shit happening doesn't mix well. Throw in the devil.drink and it can really fuck shit up. Hope it works out.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at October 21, 2013 08:33 PM (nD2pm)

472 452 RWC, I'm in St. Louis and I've been working for Reuters (the enemy) selling legal products to law schools. Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at October 22, 2013 12:23 AM (nD2pm) Damn. Wish I could help. No contacts there at all. Keep your head up.

Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 08:33 PM (LpbKr)

473 454
<cough cough> They are very thin at one end, very thick in the middle, and very thin at the other end <cough cough>

Posted by: Anne Elk at October 22, 2013 12:26 AM (/oZbq)

Ah, so they are footballs?

Posted by: A blind man of Hindustan to learning much inclined. at October 21, 2013 08:34 PM (XnALK)

474 A low-tech improvement going on in railroads is widening of tunnels and raising of bridges to allow more lines to carry double-stacked rail cars. It's not sexy but it adds a lot of capacity. But every tunnel and bridge on a route has to allow it. The railroad companies have been doing a lot of that in the last decade.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 08:35 PM (ZPrif)

475 Probably more INTJ's and INTP's here than average. We tend not to need a bunch of touchy-feely to function.

I have some friends who are textbook E's and they become almost dysfunctional when nobody is around.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 08:35 PM (l5zzX)

476 I swear, sometimes I think ace is the only thing that keeps me going. Morons for life, as the kids say.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at October 21, 2013 08:35 PM (nD2pm)

477 Who needs real people when you have MoronsInABox?

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2013 08:37 PM (kXLr9)

478 Hickster, seems depression and bad shit happening doesn't mix well. Throw in the devil.drink and it can really fuck shit up. Hope it works out.>>

I know and am trying to walk that tight rope before I just go AA.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 08:38 PM (okL9f)

479 Have to go folks. Have a good night.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at October 21, 2013 08:38 PM (XnALK)

480 filled half of a 20 gallon garbage bag with the rosemary I cut down today

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 08:39 PM (vJdyz)

481 Probably more INTJ's and INTP's here than average. We tend not to need a bunch of touchy-feely to function. *** INTP here but I skirted along the INTJ line on the test.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 08:40 PM (DmNpO)

482 14 Questioner: Which country was Adolf Hitler the leader of? American College Student: I think itÂ’s Amsterdam? Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe. Posted by: Thulsa Doom at October 21, 2013 10:10 PM (GJc4d) And yet, most are quick to call Conservatives, .....Nazis? Mysteries of the Universe.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at October 21, 2013 08:40 PM (/0aG8)

483

Only racist, American, fat, stupid, warmongering footballs are pointy. All the rest of the world knows that footballs are round ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 08:41 PM (/oZbq)

484 I started taking a starting dose of an SSNRI about 6 years ago, anxiety central. Never went above that dose. That, sunlight and exercise have made a huge diference for me. Mine got really bad when working long hours and not seeing the sun. I walk at lunch now and get sun.

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 21, 2013 08:42 PM (/7Xis)

485 A low-tech improvement going on in railroads is widening of tunnels and raising of bridges to allow more lines to carry double-stacked rail cars. It's not sexy but it adds a lot of capacity. But every tunnel and bridge on a route has to allow it. The railroad companies have been doing a lot of that in the last decade. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2013 12:35 AM I read about this...Atlas Shrugged? No coal-fired engines in tunnels...

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 21, 2013 08:43 PM (JMmQ9)

486 480 filled half of a 20 gallon garbage bag with the rosemary I cut down today

Posted by: The Dude at October 22, 2013 12:39 AM (vJdyz)

That's always an "it depends" sort of thing. Rosemary grows and grows and grows and grows, and so much of it is woody. Just a suggestion, though -- next time you do a BBQ, slap all those trimmings in the side without flame or over the flame with no air -- rosemary-smoked BBQ is teh awesome!

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 08:43 PM (T1005)

487 I can't wait for porn on the Oculus Rift How many weeks till the Japanese perfect the Erectile Rift accessory to go with it?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 21, 2013 08:44 PM (X9Mnx)

488 I have a wacky theory as to why we're more libertarian - and conservative - than under JFK. Maybe it has been proven that statist and liberal ideas haven't worked.

There's actually a case to be made for statism - the Pyramids are a case in point - but never for liberal statism.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 21, 2013 08:44 PM (d7tB2)

489 Who needs real people when you have MoronsInABox? -- I know you're joking but the scientific evidence really does say our body and brains require it. Literally different genes are activated when we're around other people. Different proteins are being manufactured. It's the difference between looking at a pretty girl on the internet and standing next to a pretty girl. All sorts of biochemical processes are activated by actually seeing and smelling and touching real actual people. And it's down to the genetic level. Genes are constantly being up-regulated and down-regulated based off environmental stimuli.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 08:44 PM (ZPrif)

490 >>> Probably more INTJ's and INTP's here than average. We tend not to need a bunch of touchy-feely to function. Briggs-Meyers has my picture for the definition of INTP. Wife is INTJ. Leaves are afraid to fall on our lawn.

Posted by: fluffy at October 21, 2013 08:45 PM (z9HTb)

491 I have some friends who are textbook E's and they become almost dysfunctional when nobody is around.>>

Healthy or not My brother, Father and me went to the cabin last weekend. Hours were spent with no talking. My BIL which I believe is a great guy and a good match for my sister can't go 5 minutes without talking. Who is the weirdo?

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 08:45 PM (okL9f)

492 Gozer, what about the St. Louis fed or FINRA, etc?

Posted by: NCKate at October 21, 2013 08:46 PM (83KrV)

493 457 The discussion brings this to mind, which I came across earlier today. It seems that in the land of hot Japanese girls, people are not only not having children, they aren't even bothering with sex at all.

http://tinyurl.com/ktyzezx

Posted by: Epobirs at October 22, 2013 12:27 AM (kcfmt)

===

Fuck. Where would they be if they had Gloria Allred and Marvin Miller?

Posted by: jc at October 21, 2013 08:46 PM (PlzOe)

494 Claiming to be Amerindian is harder since the tribes actually keep track (so they don't have to share the Feds money).

----

It helps if you're an ultra lib Democrat woman Senator!

Posted by: Elizabeth Sacajawea Warren at October 21, 2013 08:47 PM (jSmN1)

495 Only racist, American, fat,stupid, warmongering footballs are pointy. All the rest of the world knows that footballs are round ... And that if another player comes within three inches of you, you're supposed to flop to the ground in agonizing pain.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 21, 2013 08:47 PM (X9Mnx)

496 490 Who needs real people when you have MoronsInABox?
--

I know you're joking but the scientific evidence really does say our body and brains require it. Literally different genes are activated when we're around other people. Different proteins are being manufactured.

It's the difference between looking at a pretty girl on the internet and standing next to a pretty girl. All sorts of biochemical processes are activated by actually seeing and smelling and touching real actual people. And it's down to the genetic level. Genes are constantly being up-regulated and down-regulated based off environmental stimuli.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2013 12:44 AM (ZPrif)

Besides all the biochemical processes, there are seriously different legal processes that are activated by actually smelling and touching real actual people.

Posted by: Restraining Order at October 21, 2013 08:47 PM (T1005)

497 An old Dennis Miller joke: "You know, folks, the day an unemployed iron worker can lay in his Barcalounger with a Foster's in one hand and a channel flicker in the other and fuck Claudia Schiffer for $19.95 ... it's gonna make crack look like Sanka."

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 08:47 PM (ZPrif)

498 That's always an "it depends" sort of thing. Rosemary grows and grows and grows and grows, and so much of it is woody. Just a suggestion, though -- next time you do a BBQ, slap all those trimmings in the side without flame or over the flame with no air -- rosemary-smoked BBQ is teh awesome!

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 12:43 AM (T1005)

yeah, the one plant I had this year just blew the fuck up. Kinda tempted to try cramming it into one large chicken and roast it as I don't have much ideas on what to use it all for as I've never had any luck with drying rosemary

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 08:49 PM (vJdyz)

499 OK, I'm out tomorrow night. amios

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 21, 2013 08:49 PM (JMmQ9)

500 How many weeks till the Japanese perfect the Erectile Rift accessory to go with it?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 12:44 AM (X9Mnx)

already been done. It's just an onha hole with motors that connects to your computer

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 08:50 PM (vJdyz)

501 An old Dennis Miller joke: "You know, folks, the day an unemployed iron worker can lay in his Barcalounger with a Foster's in one hand and a channel flicker in the other and fuck Claudia Schiffer for $19.95 ... it's gonna make crack look like Sanka."

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2013 12:47 AM (ZPrif)

Would beat skyrim, thats for sure.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 21, 2013 08:50 PM (FMbng)

502 x-nay on the niffing-say, got it ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 08:51 PM (/oZbq)

503 It's the difference between looking at a pretty girl on the internet
and standing next to a pretty girl.>>

Until there is touch internet porn is the same.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 08:52 PM (okL9f)

504 It's the difference between looking at a pretty girl on the internet and standing next to a pretty girl. I don't know. In either situation my natural reaction is to pull out my dick. Sometimes the Walgreens cashier objects, but the customer is always right as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 21, 2013 08:52 PM (X9Mnx)

505 I thought I was pushing it with showing up at 10...

I was one of what Watson termed "wild ducks" who are to be cherished and their quirks tolerated.

Wild ducks can be maddening for a "textbook" manager, but they do the things that nobody else can do, and do them 20x faster than anyone believed possible, and offer sage guidance to their manager that warns them away from impending disasters.

My last few years at IBM were almost 100% "off-book" self-directed guerrilla projects within the scope of other larger projects doing performance or manufacturability work nobody was willing to book official budget/staff for, or writing guerrilla QA tests that had a defect find rate of around 50% (my intuition about where bugs are hiding is Nostradamus like)

All paid off hugely in the end saving the company millions of dollars.

Management turned a blind eye and let me run wild. Whatever I was doing was working, so they didn't care how the sausage got made;->

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 08:53 PM (l5zzX)

506

Would that giant chicken, per chance, be wearing a high vis safety vest?

Or, on the other hand, my neighbor has a contraband rooster I'm sure would be fantastic, in my smoker, stuffed with a bag of your rosemary ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 08:54 PM (/oZbq)

507 Would beat skyrim, thats for sure.

Would there be problem-solving, in this hypothetical game where you get into 1991 Claudia Schiffer's shorts?

That's the missing ingredient here. Men can whack off to pr0n but mostly we like a challenge. Get a "holosuite" type VR machine where your reward for fighting off a horde of orcs is Claudia in a chainmail bikini and, well.

There ends the human race.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 21, 2013 08:54 PM (d7tB2)

508 I lurked here and observed before the 08 election. I remember the incident with the SoCal moron. I was so depressed after the 12 election, coming here and reading Ace's depressing posts had me stepping away. But I have been coming back the past few months. .........and you guys don't disappoint!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 21, 2013 08:55 PM (fbrwf)

509 499 That's always an "it depends" sort of thing.
Rosemary grows and grows and grows and grows, and so much of it is
woody. Just a suggestion, though -- next time you do a BBQ, slap all
those trimmings in the side without flame or over the flame with no air
-- rosemary-smoked BBQ is teh awesome!

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 12:43 AM (T1005)

yeah, the one plant I had this year just blew the fuck up. Kinda tempted to try cramming it into one large chicken and roast it as I don't have much ideas on what to use it all for as I've never had any luck with drying rosemary

Posted by: The Dude at October 22, 2013 12:49 AM (vJdyz)

That's why "make smoke with it" is so awesome. You can smoke anything -- chicken, turkey, pork, steak -- and it all comes out great.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 08:55 PM (T1005)

510 Damn, I have a control freak executive to answer too now ...

Posted by: Wild Duck at October 21, 2013 08:56 PM (/oZbq)

511

Women don't seem particularly interested in my proteins.

Posted by: garrett at October 21, 2013 08:56 PM (VgkwL)

512 Or, on the other hand, my neighbor has a contraband rooster I'm sure would be fantastic, in my smoker, stuffed with a bag of your rosemary ...

Posted by: Joe at October 22, 2013 12:54 AM (/oZbq)

need a few bresse blue chickens

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 08:57 PM (vJdyz)

513 I lurked here and observed before the 08 election. I remember the incident with the SoCal moron. I was so depressed after the 12 election, coming here and reading Ace's depressing posts had me stepping away. But I have been coming back the past few months. .........and you guys don't disappoint! *** Don't lurk in the shadows. Come out and play now and then.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 09:00 PM (DmNpO)

514 I know you're joking but the scientific evidence really does say our body and brains require it. Literally different genes are activated when we're around other people. Different proteins are being manufactured. It's the difference between looking at a pretty girl on the internet and standing next to a pretty girl. All sorts of biochemical processes are activated by actually seeing and smelling and touching real actual people. And it's down to the genetic level. Genes are constantly being up-regulated and down-regulated based off environmental stimuli. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 22, 2013 12:44 AM (ZPrif) What if I am next to a moronnette yet she doesn't know it because of stalking? Would my chems just go nuts? (Don't take that the wrong way, just kidding.)

Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 09:00 PM (LpbKr)

515 506 I thought I was pushing it with showing up at 10...

I was one of what Watson termed "wild ducks" who are to be cherished and their quirks tolerated.

Wild ducks can be maddening for a "textbook" manager, but they do the things that nobody else can do, and do them 20x faster than anyone believed possible, and offer sage guidance to their manager that warns them away from impending disasters.

My last few years at IBM were almost 100% "off-book" self-directed guerrilla projects within the scope of other larger projects doing performance or manufacturability work nobody was willing to book official budget/staff for, or writing guerrilla QA tests that had a defect find rate of around 50% (my intuition about where bugs are hiding is Nostradamus like)

All paid off hugely in the end saving the company millions of dollars.

Management turned a blind eye and let me run wild. Whatever I was doing was working, so they didn't care how the sausage got made;->

Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 12:53 AM (l5zzX)

There's a story about a reporter going to interview Henry Ford at HQ in Detroit. At the time, there was an "executives row" where all the honchos had offices off one long corridor. While pacing his way to Ford's office, the reporter happened to notice one guy leaning way back in his chair with his feet on his desk.

After most of the interview, the reporter summoned up the nerve to tell Ford what he'd seen, and he got this reply: "Son, that man had a single idea last year that saved this company millions of dollars, and amounted to 10% of our net profit for the year.....and do you know where his feet were when he came up with that idea? Right where I'm hoping they are now -- on his desk."

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 09:02 PM (T1005)

516

The neighbor has others, only one crows ALL THE TIME!!!!

There is also a duck, the rooster says "I HATE THAT DUCK"

Freaking urban chickens, dude says they are "trying to find him a home" - I got your home right here - my smoker ...

My coworkers are not sure of the veracity of the chicken ...

Posted by: Wild Duck at October 21, 2013 09:02 PM (/oZbq)

517 I'm classic INTJ.

Curiously, my birthday makes me Scorpio, and I'm a textbook Scorpio too if you believe in that shit...

...and I'm left handed, so I got the whole spacial relationship right brain 3D visualization conceptual leaps artistic thinking thing working for me.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 09:02 PM (l5zzX)

518 I'm classic INTJ. Curiously, my birthday makes me Scorpio, and I'm a textbook Scorpio too if you believe in that shit... *** I'm INTP and Taurus.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 09:03 PM (DmNpO)

519 496 Only racist, American, fat,stupid, warmongering footballs are pointy. All the rest of the world knows that footballs are round ...

And that if another player comes within three inches of you, you're supposed to flop to the ground in agonizing pain.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 22, 2013 12:47 AM (X9Mnx)

====

football should steal a page from hockey and call a penalty on the guy who takes the flop. soccer players who flop should be beaten senseless with small dead road kill.

Posted by: jc at October 21, 2013 09:04 PM (PlzOe)

520 I'm INTP and Taurus.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 01:03 AM (DmNpO)

a/s/l

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 09:05 PM (vJdyz)

521 Management turned a blind eye and let me run wild. Whatever I was doing was working, so they didn't care how the sausage got made;->>>

I get the felling my management has similar feelings. I show up every day but have not preformed in the past couple years. But I am the only one that knows some key specifics. My lab ppartners are less than interested. I start yo wonder if i'm am still employed through my problems only because I work with people so disinterested.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 09:05 PM (okL9f)

522 518 I'm classic INTJ.

Curiously, my birthday makes me Scorpio, and I'm a textbook Scorpio too if you believe in that shit...

...and I'm left handed, so I got the whole spacial relationship right brain 3D visualization conceptual leaps artistic thinking thing working for me.

Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 01:02 AM (l5zzX)

I just took an internet quiz thingie, and got INTJ 67/25/100/33 -- and also have a birthday coming up after the cusp.

I'm a rightie, though.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 09:06 PM (T1005)

523 a/s/l *** Heh. 48/F/Jax, FL

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 09:07 PM (DmNpO)

524 Nite all It's after midnight here.

Posted by: The Hickster at October 21, 2013 09:09 PM (okL9f)

525 524 a/s/l

***

Heh.

48/F/Jax, FL

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 01:07 AM (DmNpO)

48? You're still a spring chicken!!! I turn 51 in a couple of weeks.

I'd figured since you were a nurse that you'd be older.....which, come to think of it, I'd better get over right quick before it bites me in the ass.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 09:10 PM (T1005)

526 NDH, I actually have been..........a bit more here and the

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 21, 2013 09:11 PM (UOnC3)

527 I'd figured since you were a nurse that you'd be older.....which, come to think of it, I'd better get over right quick before it bites me in the ass. *** Not a nurse. In fact, that's one of the few fields in which I have never been interested.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 09:12 PM (DmNpO)

528 Dear Abby:

I don't know if I'm introverted or extroverted. Honestly. I pick my spots and "wow 'em", I guess. I'm introverted until I'm extroverted. I'm "better" working alone, but I'm very helpful and get along well with others. People really like to work with me because I have opinions, but I'm not a dick until I'm made into a dick by some asshole.

Signed,
-Confused Gemini in Cleveland

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 09:13 PM (lq3Ak)

529 Goodnight Hickster

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 09:13 PM (DmNpO)

530 Why in the world did you think I am a nurse?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 09:14 PM (DmNpO)

531 Later, Hickster.

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 09:14 PM (lq3Ak)

532 "soccer players who flop should be beaten senseless with small dead road kill."

How would you know when you've had an effect?

Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 09:15 PM (kcfmt)

533 Seeing a lot of lefites excited at the prospect that the NFL will somehow vanish cause of the concussion stuff and the PBS documentary/hitjob last week. I pointed that they can't even kill boxing. Floyd Mayweather was the highest paid athlete in the world last year and this year. UFC has exploded in the last decade -- just as we learned more about the risks of head trauma. In boxing and UFC you win by causing head trauma. That's the goal. Worst case scenario is youth football becomes flag football or something. But once they turn 18, you can't stop grown men from taking exciting risks for millions of dollars. And if the liberal fascists really wanted to kill dangerous sports like boxing -- they probably should have brought in 50 million Mexicans. If there's one thing Mexicans love it's some good old boxing head trauma. UFC had a sold out fight in Houston on Saturday. Fight of the night was two Mex-Americans, Diego Sanchez and Gilbert Melendez. Pretty much just stood in the cage and took turns braining each other for 15 minutes. Incredibly bloody, brutal fight. Great fight. Crowd, which was heavily Mex-American, went nuts. Sanchez has an amazing ability to take a punch. He also probably already has some brain damage and appear to already be developing a slight slur in his speech, though he was a mush-mouthed idiot when he started fighting so it's not completely clear. And the avg UFC and boxing guys make way less than NFL guys and absorb more head trauma. At low levels they don't make more than a few hundred or thousand dollars per fight.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 21, 2013 09:16 PM (ZPrif)

534

BTH I would posit that the pyramids are a testament to slave labor ...

What we have now is a perfect alignment of corporate interests with government interest, as long as the corporation is "right thinking" and willing to "play ball". In years past, something similar was called fascism.

That's why our prezzie somewhat defies categorization - we think of him as socialist (I would say even Marxist), but he is readily willing and able to align himself with so-called progressive corporate interests, or, payola, in so many words ...

I guess "social democrat" leaps to mind, but I still lean towards Marxist, as I am sure he thinks he is smarter then then lot, and just taking the cash as the means justify the ends ...

The "progressive" movement has been away from the individual liberties as elucidated by our founders and towards centralized authoritarianism for century now - and some of that can be blamed on the original sin of the US - the countenancing of the institution of slavery in order to form a Union, but I, for one, stand by the ruleset as promulgated by the founders as the best plan yet.

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 09:16 PM (/oZbq)

535 How would you know when you've had an effect?

Posted by: Epobirs at October 22, 2013 01:15 AM (kcfmt)

when sweat drips from your balls

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 09:16 PM (vJdyz)

536 "How would you know when you've had an effect?"
Posted by: Epobirs

When they run away from badgerstench, showing that the shin malady was merely a ruse.

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 09:16 PM (lq3Ak)

537 ...and my bro and I both have a touch of Aspy, so we both got a laser like focus and want to know everything there is to know about something we've committed to doing.

The trick is in keeping that Aspy shit in the plus column and recognizing when its tempting you to spin off into the weeds...cuz it do that if unchecked.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 09:17 PM (l5zzX)

538

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 01:06 AM (T1005)

Hmmm.... archtypical Aries.... INTJ.... Left handed...

Would be interesting to see if we have more left handed Morons than normal society.... LOL....

Bet we do....

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2013 09:17 PM (lZBBB)

539 529 Dear Abby:

I don't know if I'm introverted or extroverted. Honestly. I pick my spots and "wow 'em", I guess. I'm introverted until I'm extroverted. I'm "better" working alone, but I'm very helpful and get along well with others. People really like to work with me because I have opinions, but I'm not a dick until I'm made into a dick by some asshole.

Signed,
-Confused Gemini in Cleveland

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 22, 2013 01:13 AM (lq3Ak)

Dear CGinC, which I gather is some kind of spring weasel,

Take the test at http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm and you will be informed -- maybe even accurately.

Abby Normal.

Posted by: Advice by the electron-Volt at October 21, 2013 09:19 PM (T1005)

540 533 "soccer players who flop should be beaten senseless with small dead road kill."

How would you know when you've had an effect?

Posted by: Epobirs at October 22, 2013 01:15 AM (kcfmt)

===

the road kill starts looking worse for wear.

Posted by: jc at October 21, 2013 09:19 PM (PlzOe)

541

Posted by: Joe at October 22, 2013 01:16 AM (/oZbq)

You need to read what Mussolini wrote about Fascism.... you know.. they guy who pretty much invented it?

Corporitism IS Fascism....

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2013 09:19 PM (lZBBB)

542 If there's one thing Mexicans love it's some good old boxing head trauma.

Down here the migrant workers get liquored up and carve on each other with machetes for their Friday night sport.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 09:20 PM (l5zzX)

543 531 Why in the world did you think I am a nurse?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 01:14 AM (DmNpO)

Beats the hell out of me, especially 'cause you keep talking about railroads. I've been saying for months: "boy, isn't that diverse? -- railroads to nursing!" At least I knew you were an 'ette.

I don't think I'm drinking enough.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 09:21 PM (T1005)

544 So right handed I have no clue what the left one is for ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 09:21 PM (/oZbq)

545 Exactly on point romeo, thx ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 09:22 PM (/oZbq)

546 American Top Team's training will carve you up.

Posted by: adams edged porn at October 21, 2013 09:23 PM (gQKHE)

547 esh, 17 character DLC for D2

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 09:23 PM (vJdyz)

548 535
BTH I would posit that the pyramids are a testament to slave labor ...

What we have now is a perfect alignment of corporate interests with government interest, as long as the corporation is "right thinking" and willing to "play ball". In years past, something similar was called fascism.

That's why our prezzie somewhat defies categorization - we think of him as socialist (I would say even Marxist), but he is readily willing and able to align himself with so-called progressive corporate interests, or, payola, in so many words ...

I guess "social democrat" leaps to mind, but I still lean towards Marxist, as I am sure he thinks he is smarter then then lot, and just taking the cash as the means justify the ends ...

The "progressive" movement has been away from the individual liberties as elucidated by our founders and towards centralized authoritarianism for century now - and some of that can be blamed on the original sin of the US - the countenancing of the institution of slavery in order to form a Union, but I, for one, stand by the ruleset as promulgated by the founders as the best plan yet.

Posted by: Joe at October 22, 2013 01:16 AM (/oZbq)

====

Taxonomy of the various forms of asshole is always interesting, but not actually necessary. Anyone that is willing to use oppression to own the time of other people without paying for it is a Slaver -- regardless of the intellectual pursuit found in trying to choose the right "ism" to best describe that particular asshole.

Posted by: jc at October 21, 2013 09:24 PM (PlzOe)

549 539 Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 01:06 AM (T1005)

Hmmm.... archtypical Aries.... INTJ.... Left handed...

Would be interesting to see if we have more left handed Morons than normal society.... LOL....

Bet we do....

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 22, 2013 01:17 AM (lZBBB)

I'd put money on being more lefty.

Gotta admit, though....somewhat set in my ways about Aries -- that's my younger sister's sign.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 09:26 PM (T1005)

550 Beats the hell out of me, especially 'cause you keep talking about railroads. I've been saying for months: "boy, isn't that diverse? -- railroads to nursing!" At least I knew you were an 'ette. *** You really made me laugh.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 09:26 PM (DmNpO)

551 JC, if in your taxonomy asshole=tyrant, I'm 100% on board ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 09:27 PM (/oZbq)

552 545 So right handed I have no clue what the left one is for ...

Posted by: Joe at October 22, 2013 01:21 AM (/oZbq)

It's covered in the Koran -- you're supposed to use your left hand to wipe your ass with a rock after defecating.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 09:27 PM (T1005)

553 I don't know if I'm introverted or extroverted. Honestly. I pick my spots and "wow 'em", I guess. I'm introverted until I'm extroverted.

INTJ's are like that. We're generally content to work behind the scenes with little fanfare, but can and will step out as forceful leaders if compelled to when existing leadership proves incompetent.

I've had to "bust out" like that and "assume command" a few times on jobs. Its not something I'm comfortable with, but its something I can do competently when the alternative is failure.

My preference is to be paired with competent management and act in a tech advisory role for them, but that's not always possible.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 09:28 PM (l5zzX)

554

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 01:26 AM (T1005)

LOL.... yeah... Aries are an acquired taste... ye either love us or hate us... or both at the same time....

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2013 09:29 PM (lZBBB)

555 asshole=tyrant=slaver

the goal of all of them is to steal the lives* of other people

*(in their case, what they generally want is everything you can produce with the hours, minutes, and seconds between your birth and your death)

Posted by: jc at October 21, 2013 09:30 PM (PlzOe)

556 There is definitely something to be said about twenty somethings Incessant need to yammer. When we were at Lake Powell in September they never shut up. I had to be the "rules" nazi just to get the boat into dock. And don't even let get started on the SWAT NPR that raided our campsite at 10:01.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 21, 2013 09:30 PM (n5mZ4)

557 551 Beats the hell out of me, especially 'cause you keep talking about railroads. I've been saying for months: "boy, isn't that diverse? -- railroads to nursing!" At least I knew you were an 'ette.

***

You really made me laugh.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 01:26 AM (DmNpO)

*Bows* I'm gratified by m'lady's pleasure.

I still need to bang it out of my head that nurses are older than I am -- that ship has sailed, and the waters are perilous for those who fail to use up-to-date charts.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 09:31 PM (T1005)

558

Oh that makes sense, I was never able to achieve "stranger effect" by sleeping on it, because RIGHT HANDED ...

The more you know ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 09:31 PM (/oZbq)

559

Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 01:28 AM (l5zzX)

Yeah.... INTJs make the BEST SGTs... or Mid Level NCOs....

Sit back and wait.... and just make sure your Junior Officer doesn't get people killed... then step into the leadership void if needed...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2013 09:32 PM (lZBBB)

560 There is definitely something to be said about twenty somethings Incessant need to yammer.

Special snowflakes.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 09:33 PM (l5zzX)

561 *Bows* I'm gratified by m'lady's pleasure. I still need to bang it out of my head that nurses are older than I am -- that ship has sailed, and the waters are perilous for those who fail to use up-to-date charts. **** I wonder where the image of the older-nurse originates?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 21, 2013 09:37 PM (DmNpO)

562 It's covered in the Koran -- you're supposed to use your left hand to wipe your ass with a rock after defecating.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 01:27 AM (T1005)

I guess if you read far enough it states that afterwards you use the right hand to eat the rock

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Div at October 21, 2013 09:37 PM (FMbng)

563 31, Taurus, fairly typical of the breed, INTJ, Right handed. I'm seeing one common thread, and it's not sign or handedness. Interesting.

Posted by: Cato at October 21, 2013 09:38 PM (DQP0I)

564 561 There is definitely something to be said about twenty somethings Incessant need to yammer.

Special snowflakes.

Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 01:33 AM (l5zzX)

I think it has more to do with the significant urbanization (or, more accurately, de-ruralizing) of the 60s and 70s. Virtually no-one younger than 30 has spent significant amounts of time where only the cicadas hum and birds chirp. Most had the TV on as babysitter, have the radio on in their car, and wander around with their ipods playing -- they've never experienced silence. So, as you sit comfy in the quiet, they start yammering nonstop to mimic what they know.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 09:38 PM (T1005)

565

Purp I told my Sr I was good at crisis, not so good at conflict ...

When stuff breaks, I'm the one you want - when the bull shit flies, I freak ...

Don't mind leadership, can't stand management - I can barely keep my own shit together ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 09:38 PM (/oZbq)

566 562 *Bows* I'm gratified by m'lady's pleasure.

I still need to bang it out of my head that nurses are older than I am -- that ship has sailed, and the waters are perilous for those who fail to use up-to-date charts.

****

I wonder where the image of the older-nurse originates?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 22, 2013 01:37 AM (DmNpO)

In my case, it's from being a self-aware sickly kid. After I got out on my own and learned what I was allergic to, I was much less sickly -- but still had that kid/nurse thing going. At 50, however, this is not a good position to be carrying forward.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 09:41 PM (T1005)

567 then step into the leadership void if needed.

Its like flipping a switch too. BAM, my mind shifts gears and I'm a different person. Its not a transition you sneak up on, it just happens, and it happens in the blink of an eye.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 09:41 PM (l5zzX)

568 ESTJ...

You have marginal or no preference of Extraversion over Introversion (1%)
    You have moderate preference of Sensing over Intuition (50%)
    You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (38%)
    You have moderate preference of Judging over Perceiving (33%)

I told you... lol. I can sit and plan out an entire day, by myself, happily. Write, plot, draw, read, game, do taxes, etc.

I can also get in front of a microphone, with little preparation, and host "Bare-As-You-Dare" competitions. Most of it Improv with a few previously outlined jokes or topics.

I'm either a chameleon or a sociopath!

Most of those questions were hard to answer. I had to ask myself, "what have you done most often, currently?" I could have gone the other way on at least five of them.

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 09:42 PM (lq3Ak)

569

Posted by: Joe at October 22, 2013 01:38 AM (/oZbq)

Hmmm..... really good during crises.... good at physical conflict.... Horrible at emotional conflict (I shut down.... )...

Oh.... wait.... guess that means I'm a MAN.... LOL

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2013 09:43 PM (lZBBB)

570 Cato, the secret is (shhhhhh) .... ADD ... lol

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 09:44 PM (/oZbq)

571 My conflict resolution skills tend towards Vlad the Impaler rather than Dr Phil.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 09:45 PM (l5zzX)

572 565 it would some good for them to enjoy true darkness away from city lights, too. Extremely humbling.

Posted by: CAC at October 21, 2013 09:46 PM (StmyX)

573

At 50, however, this is not a good position to be carrying forward.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 01:41 AM (T1005)

I'm 54.... good thing you don't work for my company.... we do IT support for Doctors Offices.... almost all the nurses here are much younger... as are a lot of the Doctors...

Which is disconcerting when you are asking them for medical advice... shit... I have BOOTS older than one Doctor I work for...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2013 09:46 PM (lZBBB)

574 569 ESTJ...

You have marginal or no preference of Extraversion over Introversion (1%)
You have moderate preference of Sensing over Intuition (50%)
You have moderate preference of Thinking over Feeling (38%)
You have moderate preference of Judging over Perceiving (33%)

I told you... lol. I can sit and plan out an entire day, by myself, happily. Write, plot, draw, read, game, do taxes, etc.

I can also get in front of a microphone, with little preparation, and host "Bare-As-You-Dare" competitions. Most of it Improv with a few previously outlined jokes or topics.

I'm either a chameleon or a sociopath!

Most of those questions were hard to answer. I had to ask myself, "what have you done most often, currently?" I could have gone the other way on at least five of them.

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 22, 2013 01:42 AM (lq3Ak)

So, being an ESTJ makes you perfectly-suited for composing prayers to which INTJs can wholeheartedly join in....Go. Figure.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 09:48 PM (T1005)

575 Interesting test, I am INTJ. A lot of the questions I could have answered differently depending on individual situations

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 21, 2013 09:48 PM (/7Xis)

576 lol you guys and your "jobs"

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 09:48 PM (vJdyz)

577

Romeo, I run away from physical conflict and, in regards to emotional conflict, I am a thermonuclear device - I guess that makes me a big girl - who is really good at analysis, lol ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 09:51 PM (/oZbq)

578 "So, being an ESTJ makes you perfectly-suited for composing prayers to which INTJs can wholeheartedly join in....Go. Figure."
Posted by: cthulhu

If that's my lot, I'll take it. With honors.

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 09:51 PM (lq3Ak)

579 Cthuhula........ What most amazed us was the useless information they knew! We actually thought were pretty good on trivia the classics that we are.......... but with them, not so much.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 21, 2013 09:53 PM (dKrTw)

580

Posted by: Joe at October 22, 2013 01:51 AM (/oZbq)

Yeah.... the whole physical conflict thing can be a weird one...

But then again I spent weekend before last, camping with 2000 people, most of whom were swinging at each other with swords....for fun.... sooooo....

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2013 09:54 PM (lZBBB)

581 574 At 50, however, this is not a good position to be carrying forward.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 01:41 AM (T1005)

I'm 54.... good thing you don't work for my company.... we do IT support for Doctors Offices.... almost all the nurses here are much younger... as are a lot of the Doctors...

Which is disconcerting when you are asking them for medical advice... shit... I have BOOTS older than one Doctor I work for...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 22, 2013 01:46 AM (lZBBB)

I'm pretty sure that I'm older than my primary care doc....but he's a sharp guy. And, as I found out one time, the managing partner of the local office I used to work for of a national CPA firm -- a guy who retired while I was still in my 20s -- also sees him.....and drives down from the mountains in order to do so. This MP is a guy who could see any doctor in the western US if it suited him.

By contrast, I've had many older doctors that I ended up not respecting at all, as my own medical knowledge rivaled or exceeded theirs.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 09:55 PM (T1005)

582 Is there a link to test y'all are taking? I'm drinking and curious now ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 09:55 PM (/oZbq)

583 Hrm, ISTP. Pretty sure I got something different last time; wonder how much of that is a change in how I do things and how much is a change in how I *think* I do things?

Strong introversion, moderate elsewhere. I like to think I can be flexible in those aspects; Ex: I'd rather not lead, but if there's no leader, I'd like to push things along.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 21, 2013 09:55 PM (0wHyk)

584 Posted by: Joe at October 22, 2013 01:55 AM (/oZbq)

The one I took was linked earlier in the thread, here:
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 21, 2013 09:56 PM (0wHyk)

585 579 "So, being an ESTJ makes you perfectly-suited for composing prayers to which INTJs can wholeheartedly join in....Go. Figure."
Posted by: cthulhu

If that's my lot, I'll take it. With honors.

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 22, 2013 01:51 AM (lq3Ak)

You certainly are held in high honor by us introverted intuition types.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 09:58 PM (T1005)

586 cthulhu posted upstream about using rosemary in the BBQ and I thought I'd add to that. I was in Nantes, France once and they were cooking mussels out in the streets over rosemary twigs. Dammit that was good. So I have tried the same at home with oysters. GET IN MY BELLY!

Posted by: Mr. Dave at October 21, 2013 09:59 PM (fimvT)

587 Jay Leno, back in his early stand-up days, had a bit about the shock that came with the first time you got pulled over by a cop substantially younger than yourself.

I still cannot get used to the idea that when 20-30 year olds look at me they see an old guy. Although it can be useful when they automatically defer to me even though we're of equal rank on a contract job.

I never did a lot of the rite of passage stuff that helps people look at themselves as adults. To an extent, I sometimes feel more loss from that aspect of not staying in school than the education. I'd already gotten used to teaching myself most things from books by the time I hit my teens.

IIRC, it was in Reader's Digest that I read a short piece where a guy reflected on going through life feeling like a fraud, that he really wasn't a grownup because he had no idea what to do much of the time and had to get by on educated guesses while it seemed like everybody else just knew. While playing golf with his sixty-something father, he relates is problem and asks the older man at what age he finally felt like a competent adult.

"I'll let you know when it happens, son."

Posted by: Epobirs at October 21, 2013 10:00 PM (kcfmt)

588 580 Cthuhula........

What most amazed us was the useless information they knew!

We actually thought were pretty good on trivia the classics that we are.......... but with them, not so much.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 22, 2013 01:53 AM (dKrTw)

It gets scary when you see what things they don't know.....and scarier still when you see what they "know" that isn't so.....

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 10:02 PM (T1005)

589 IIRC, it was in Reader's Digest that I read a short piece where a guy reflected on going through life feeling like a fraud, that he really wasn't a grownup because he had no idea what to do much of the time and had to get by on educated guesses while it seemed like everybody else just knew.

That describes my entire frickin' life. Though I'm still a bit of a young'n who doesn't know what he's doing.

That said, I think I'm getting better at faking it.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 21, 2013 10:02 PM (0wHyk)

590 Went back and watched the 'education' vid since it wouldn't play earlier. I soooo wish she would have followed up each question with 'how have whites oppressed others.' Guarantee they'd be answering for hours on end.

Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 10:03 PM (LpbKr)

591 Also: I'm not depressive and I am perfectly happy alone. I like my good time buddies but if I can goof off by myself for a few days I'm good with that. Like riding my motorcycle. I much prefer to ride alone. But I am a weirdo. Other than my scooter I have nothing that says Harley Davidson on it.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at October 21, 2013 10:04 PM (fimvT)

592 ENFP for me

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 10:04 PM (vJdyz)

593 Late to the party as usual, and I've got a comment about the earlier white privilege/guilt discussion. Long time ago, I read Jim Goad's Redneck Manifesto and it had a profound effect on my thinking. A lot of this stuff becomes clear when you think of it as an effort by our self-proclaimed elites to keep their children from having to compete with talented children from the white working class. At elite universities, for instance, the percentage of pasty people admitted is now lower than our percentage of population. If you consider pasty people of Christian background that is even more ridiculously small. The few spots there are, are exclusively filled on the basis of connections rather than talent. Seriously, does anyone honestly believe that Chelsea Clinton is bright enough to have honestly earned a spot at Stanford? It's all about knocking down the ladder behind them, so no one else can use it. Affirmative action is just a plausible rationalization, a tool for the task of disempowering potential rivals to our new aristocracy. Look at the Harvard fury at Ted Cruz - they consider him a traitor to their elite club. Sorry for the vent, fellow morons. Please carry on.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 10:04 PM (1tL8B)

594 "I'll let you know when it happens, son."
Posted by: Epobirs

Wow! great one!

"It gets scary when you see what things they don't know.....and scarier still when you see what they "know" that isn't so..."
Posted by: cthulhu

Thanks Reagan!

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 10:05 PM (lq3Ak)

595 ENFPExtravert(67%) iNtuitive(75%) Feeling(38%) Perceiving(56)% WTF that means IDK ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 10:05 PM (/oZbq)

596 I avoid physical conflict whenever possible...because when pushed my response will be disproportional.

ex. when wrestling in HS/college I was kinda mediocre until someone really hurt me...then suddenly I'd get that Tachy Psyche effect thing, the opponent would be like a stationary dummy and I'd have them pinned and the ref would be slapping the mat and it was over.

I overtly appear to be laid back and kinda slow, but my reaction time when tested was way faster than normal.

I stumbled upon a large nesting female gator once out in the bush one day who wasn't pleased by my presence and probably beat Carl Lewis's time in the 100yd dash clearing out of that spot.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 10:05 PM (l5zzX)

597 for percentages

Extravert(1%) iNtuitive(25%) Feeling(12%) Perceiving(11)%

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 10:06 PM (vJdyz)

598 589 580
Cthuhula........

What most amazed us was the useless information they knew!

We actually thought were pretty good on trivia the classics that we are.......... but with them, not so much.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 22, 2013 01:53 AM (dKrTw)

It gets scary when you see what things they don't know.....and scarier still when you see what they "know" that isn't so.....

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 02:02 AM (T1005)

Maet's OP had good examples of the former....examples of the latter include "Nazis and Fascists in WWII were right-wing zealots" or "the Founding Fathers -- who had just fought their way out from under a well-armed tyranny using privately-owned firearms -- never meant for the 2nd amendment to allow private ownership of military or police-type weapons."

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 10:06 PM (T1005)

599

Posted by: Epobirs at October 22, 2013 02:00 AM (kcfmt)

What was really scary was when I worked for a Three Star Admiral.... and figured out HE was just pretty much winging it... and he was in charge of all the Submarines in the Pacific...

That's why I give very little deference to Pundits, Politicians, or analysts.... because no matter how "educated"... they often don't really have much more of a clue than I do....

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2013 10:07 PM (lZBBB)

600 593 ENFP for me

Posted by: The Dude at October 22, 2013 02:04 AM (vJdyz)

Hmmm....you may be the only one of the regulars with that.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 10:08 PM (T1005)

601

ISTJ.

Introvert(78%) Sensing(12%) Thinking(62%) Judging(44%)You have strong preference of Introversion over Extraversion (78%)You have slight preference of Sensing over Intuition (12%)You have distinctive preference of Thinking over Feeling (62%)You have moderate preference of Judging over Perceiving (44%)

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 10:09 PM (ejDk4)

602 Hmmm....you may be the only one of the regulars with that.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 02:08 AM (T1005)

dunno what it even means, is a stoopid

Posted by: The Dude at October 21, 2013 10:10 PM (vJdyz)

603 Seriously, does anyone honestly believe that Chelsea Clinton is bright enough to have honestly earned a spot at Stanford? Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 22, 2013 02:04 AM (1tL8B Further on, does anyone believe an Ivy school makes you smarter? Look what they shit out nowadays.

Posted by: RWC at October 21, 2013 10:10 PM (LpbKr)

604 596 ENFPExtravert(67%)iNtuitive(75%)Feeling(38%)Perceiving(56)%WTF that means IDK ...

Posted by: Joe at October 22, 2013 02:05 AM (/oZbq)

OK, two....

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 10:11 PM (T1005)

605

Purp, I was in waist deep water when a water mocassin swam by a couple feet away.

I jokingly say that Jesus wasn't the only one to walk on water.

I'm betting he had a bunch of snake buddies nearby and he said, "hold my beer and watch this."

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 10:13 PM (ejDk4)

606 Aparently I am something like a Vulcan.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 10:15 PM (ejDk4)

607

never meant for the 2nd amendment to allow private ownership of military or police-type weapons."

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 02:06 AM (T1005)

Yeah.... when my Sons History teacher told him that... I told him to ask 'then why is there a Cannon in almost every town square in America.... and they used to work?"

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2013 10:15 PM (lZBBB)

608 603 Hmmm....you may be the only one of the regulars with that.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 02:08 AM (T1005)

dunno what it even means, is a stoopid

Posted by: The Dude at October 22, 2013 02:10 AM (vJdyz)

The E means you can post as the Gang of Gaming Morons when it's only you. The N means that you think about what you see and react on your thoughts, instead of letting people pull the wool over your eyes. The F means that you let your feelings/passions drive your actions rather than doing a Spock and harnessing them to your rationalizing/thinking. The P speaks to your moral sense -- you don't judge for others, you merely watch.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 10:16 PM (T1005)

609 Gee whiz. I'm almost right-down-the-middle on that test. I told you folks that I'd be just as happy sitting there with my Saber Metric baseball numbers as I would be doing stand-up comedy.

The former pleases a job well-done and the latter is instant gratification. Different forms of accomplishment.

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 10:17 PM (lq3Ak)

610 WTF that means IDK ... Posted by: Joe at October 22, 2013 02:05 AM (/oZbq)

There's another page on that website that explains the letters. Here's my stab at a summary

I-E: Introverted/Extroverted - do you prefer hanging out with people or not

S-N: Sensing/Intuition - do you rely on experience or theory to understand the world

T-F: Thinking/Feeling - do you process information by thinking about it, or seeing how it makes you feel?

J-P: Judging/Perceiving - mental style - rational (judgements) or irrational (perception/gut feelings)

Not really sure on the last one, really. If anyone has a better take, would like to hear.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 21, 2013 10:17 PM (0wHyk)

611 Besides all the biochemical processes, there are seriously different legal processes that are activated by actually smelling and touching real actual people.

Posted by: Restraining Order at October 22, 2013 12:47 AM (T1005)

hahaha. lol. needed that laugh.

Gozer-

Edward Jones if you are interested in finance and think with your educational background you could probably get into the training course (they are in St. Louis so you might already know that and sorry if they were the ones to lay you off). also check to see if SpaceX and XCOR are hiring (locations would be FL, TX, and CA). another, and not sure of your technical background though, Intelsat might be worth checking out. Best of luck and my prayers that you find something.

Posted by: rich@gmu at October 21, 2013 10:17 PM (ga+7c)

612 does anyone honestly believe that Chelsea Clinton is bright enough to have honestly earned a spot at Stanford?

She was smart enough to marry a phat wallet ;->

I can't get a good read on Hillary, but Bill is a pretty sharp guy in his sleazy politician'ish kinda way.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 10:17 PM (l5zzX)

613

Yeah reading the description pretty much spot on ... more ammunition as to why I need to get out of the house and start working with a team again ...

Romeo, in my LARPing days, before it was called LARPing, I always went for Mage, so I could stand behind a fighter type and poke at the monsters with my long staff, all buffed up, and then, run away, lol ... Ropes course was my bane.

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 10:17 PM (/oZbq)

614 "I'm betting he had a bunch of snake buddies nearby and he said, "hold my beer and watch this."
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale

HAH!

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 10:19 PM (lq3Ak)

615 Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 02:16 AM (T1005)

Thought the E was extroverted, meaning he'd like a big party of Gaming Morons to hang with.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 21, 2013 10:19 PM (0wHyk)

616 What do AmericaÂ’s college students want? They want to be oppressed.

Conveniently, I have a desire to oppress them. We're made for each other.

Posted by: Da Prez at October 21, 2013 10:19 PM (+jYRU)

617 Further on, does anyone believe an Ivy school makes you smarter? Look what they shit out nowadays. It's not about learning any more, it's all about the credentialing. If you look at Spengler's cycles of history, it'd be a transition point from republic to imperial government and aristocratic rule. I say, kcuf historical cycles, we're Americans. Molon Labe.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 10:20 PM (1tL8B)

618 So if you score very high on Feeling, does that make you a sucker of cock?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 10:20 PM (ejDk4)

619 and no I don't "want to be oppressed".

Posted by: rich@gmu at October 21, 2013 10:21 PM (ga+7c)

620

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 22, 2013 02:20 AM (1tL8B)

Well.... didn't Rome transition from Republic, to Dictatorship, to Democracy... to Republic.... about 6 or 7 times?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 21, 2013 10:22 PM (lZBBB)

621 616 Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 02:16 AM (T1005)

Thought the E was extroverted, meaning he'd like a big party of Gaming Morons to hang with.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 22, 2013 02:19 AM (0wHyk)

E's like to be the life of the party. So who cares if there's a gang behind him, he's the face of the the GoGM!

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 10:23 PM (T1005)

622 Da Prez - Nicely done. *rueful head shake*

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 10:24 PM (1tL8B)

623 620 and no I don't "want to be oppressed"

Those are dangerous words these days comrade.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 10:25 PM (l5zzX)

624 619 So if you score very high on Feeling, does that make you a sucker of cock?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 22, 2013 02:20 AM (ejDk4)

Maybe -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q3CZNKgnNE

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 10:25 PM (T1005)

625 The left wants to do to us EXACTLY what Hitler did to that little girl. Posted by: EROWMER at October 21, 2013 11:38 PM (OONaw) Not exactly. The modern left would force her to confess to being queergendered after going through phisting lessonsÂ… The NAZIs didn't really do that after the Night of the Long KnivesÂ…

Posted by: The Cis-Gendered Hat at October 21, 2013 10:25 PM (Vk2pI)

626 Well.... didn't Rome transition from Republic, to Dictatorship, to Democracy... to Republic.... about 6 or 7 times?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 22, 2013 02:22 AM (lZBBB)

I know they had a few dictatorships (origin of the word, but short-term rather than for-life), but I thought that they never switched back to Republic after going Empire. Ultimately grew into an unsalvageable bureacracy that fell to the Muslim hordes.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 21, 2013 10:26 PM (0wHyk)

627 didn't Rome transition from Republic, to Dictatorship, to Democracy... to Republic.... about 6 or 7 times?

I think it was Republic --> dictatorship --> multiple variations on Clusterfuck.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 10:27 PM (l5zzX)

628 The discussion brings this to mind, which I came across earlier today. It seems that in the land of hot Japanese girls, people are not only not having children, they aren't even bothering with sex at all. http://tinyurl.com/ktyzezx Posted by: Epobirs at October 22, 2013 12:27 AM (kcfmt I am willing to make the sacrifice to reverse that horrible threatÂ…

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 ~ずっと at October 21, 2013 10:29 PM (Vk2pI)

629 628 didn't Rome transition from Republic, to Dictatorship, to Democracy... to Republic.... about 6 or 7 times?

I think it was Republic --> dictatorship --> multiple variations on Clusterfuck.

Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 02:27 AM (l5zzX)

You can only maintain a Republic so long nobody can get into a position of power without tacit approval of the rule of law. Sultan Knish has a very on-point article at http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-supersessionists-of-liberal.html

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 10:30 PM (T1005)

630 So I guess the question is the SCOAMF a Caeser type who has irrepairably damaged/represents irrepairable damage to the Republic form of government such that we're doomed to Empire?

Or maybe we can skip straight to the ossified bureacracy.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 21, 2013 10:31 PM (0wHyk)

631 Romeo13, my knowledge of Roman history is neither broad nor deep so if you say so they probably did. I'm only familiar with the Cicero to Caesar Roman transition point, to my great shame. At college (just as PC crap was coming to dominate, but I took the old profs) I concentrated on American colonial intellectual history and the Protestant Reformation. My college has since hosted a weekend long White Privilege Seminar for K-12 'educators' so I won't be sending my son there. ACLA Lutheran school.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 10:31 PM (1tL8B)

632

cthulhu, GAHHH!

(In panic stabs sharpened pencils into ears)

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 10:32 PM (ejDk4)

633 I think we're in the "Equine Senators" phase of this here Republic. However, we only get one part of the horse and they are duly elected by uninformed, maladjusted miscreants.

Equine malfeasance used to merely mean road apples on the Senate Floor. Now those road apples are written, debated and passed. Pun coincidental.

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 10:32 PM (lq3Ak)

634 G'night Horde. Enjoy the valurite.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 21, 2013 10:34 PM (0wHyk)

635 Later, CM.

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 10:34 PM (lq3Ak)

636 631 So I guess the question is the SCOAMF a Caeser type who has irrepairably damaged/represents irrepairable damage to the Republic form of government such that we're doomed to Empire?

Or maybe we can skip straight to the ossified bureacracy.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 22, 2013 02:31 AM (0wHyk)

Â“History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.Â”

I think Europe nabbed the first repetitions....we're in the second wave. And, BTW -- the guy that came up with that pithy little quote? Karl Marx.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 10:34 PM (T1005)

637

After seeing the, ahem "sexual prowess" of Japanese men, I can understand why the women doen't want to have sex.

Granted this is from porn, but they really seem to be lacking in most of the ways on how to please a woman.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 10:35 PM (ejDk4)

638 633
cthulhu, GAHHH!
(In panic stabs sharpened pencils into ears)

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 22, 2013 02:32 AM (ejDk4)

Youngsters are so fragile, these days. I lived through that when it came out -- and if you could get five radio stations in your car, three of them were playing it.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 10:37 PM (T1005)

639 Like Sam Kinison said: "Lick the alphabet".

She should have your head in a vice-grip and your face should look like a glazed donut before she even sees the crank. Most of all?

...enjoy what you do.

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 10:38 PM (lq3Ak)

640 in the land of hot Japanese girls, people are not only not having children, they aren't even bothering with sex at all. Insty has a link about something of a resurgence in Japanese interest in a working military in the face of Chinese aggression and our own obvious idiocy. Perhaps bringing Japanese masculinity back will reverse their ongoing demographic collapse? On that note, can't not link the classic Japanese vs US Navy commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNdPPEwguDQ

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 10:39 PM (1tL8B)

641

cthulhu, I also lived thru it when it came out. Fortunately I was so young I was able to recover from the trauma. Children really are resilient.

Proof Satan is real? Music like that and Disco.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 10:40 PM (ejDk4)

642 Sultan Knish has a very on-point article

Greenfield is recognizing the post Constitutional nature of our situation.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 10:41 PM (l5zzX)

643

Slapweasel, the ghostly echo of the alphabet song sometimes haunts me while at the snackbar.

I was telling a 20 something the other day a few things I had learned.

1) Take your time

2) Make sure she is happy.

3) Stay away from crazy. Sure it's great in bed, but being stabbed in your sleep is not.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 10:44 PM (ejDk4)

644 Hey, disco was good dancing music, just not good listening music. (And gays were much more fun to be around when they were underground partying fools rather than today's nagging moral scolds.)

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 10:46 PM (1tL8B)

645 Greenfield is recognizing the post Constitutional nature of our situation. Which is precisely why the Tea Party evokes such insane fury. They called for Constitutional governance at precisely the moment when our resident Tranzis were moving to finally ditch the 'outmoded' document.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 10:49 PM (1tL8B)

646 such that we're doomed to Empire

IMO, America was always destined by geography and natural resources to be an empire of some sort (the Russians and Chinese are similarly doomed to be empires).

That we managed to suppress the worst excesses of typical empire for as long as we did is the amazing part.

Lacking the restraint of law now, we're on a very predictable path.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 10:49 PM (l5zzX)

647

Disco is evil.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 10:50 PM (ejDk4)

648 "3) Stay away from crazy. Sure it's great in bed, but being stabbed in your sleep is not."
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale

HAH! All good rules to live by, but #3 can be life and death!. Crazy seems "wild and sexy!" ....once.

...then when you're gathering her shit from some house in the ghetto with a gun pointed at your face while she screams at everyone?

-Learn't.

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 10:50 PM (lq3Ak)

649 Speaking of which, Ruth Bader Ginsberg should have been impeached after that interview she gave disparaging our founding document.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 10:50 PM (1tL8B)

650

Cthulu, your point is valid, but I believe the real damage was done in the 2000 election, when algore refused to accept the outcome, and de-legitimized the presidency. From that point on, it was all fair game. Most of our voters are not even partially aware of the intricacies of our system (thanks long march), and the protections from tyranny the founders established, so when the flaws in the system were revealed, it resulted in a transition from "republic" to "democracy" where tyranny of the majority applies. Democracy, as we all here know, is inherently unstable and inevitably results in a majority voting a minority into slavery. What remains to be seen is how the next transition of power will play out, as I cannot see our new Caesar stepping down. I hope I am wrong, but I see the blatant provocations of the shutdown theatre being a dry run for what we might see in a couple of years ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 10:51 PM (/oZbq)

651 "Tranzis" lol I like that one ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 10:55 PM (/oZbq)

652 Stay away from crazy. Sure it's great in bed Well, there's crazy and then there's crazy .... I, for instance, am bug-shit nuts. Also been married pretty successfully for more than 20 years now. Got a 14 year old who's smart enough to know when his teacher's aren't too bright or are peddling crap at him. Can you believe his 20th Century History 'teacher' didn't know that British didn't necessarily mean English? *headdesk*

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 10:56 PM (1tL8B)

653 630 Sultan K is consistently on fire and I believe the best long-essayist of our time.

Posted by: DAve at October 21, 2013 10:56 PM (b7yum)

654

Slapweasel, when you have to utter the phrase, " honey put the gun down", you've made a serious error in female selection.

BTW, yes I've said that.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 10:57 PM (ejDk4)

655 IMO, America was always destined by geography and natural resources to be an empire of some sort (the Russians and Chinese are similarly doomed to be empires). That we managed to suppress the worst excesses of typical empire for as long as we did is the amazing part. Lacking the restraint of law now, we're on a very predictable path. Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 02:49 AM (l5zzX) We just might as go the full monty then. 1). Invade Canada, the West Indies, Mexico, the South Pacific and anywhere else we fee like. 2). Orgies 3). Replace Mitch McConnell with a horse. 4). ??? 5). Profit!

Posted by: The Imperial Hat at October 21, 2013 10:57 PM (Vk2pI)

656 He'll step down. I don't foresee a problem with TFG going on a "Whirlwind Tour of Progressivism" after he does one last thing to swipe at us on the way out the door.

He'll go. How he goes will leave all of us shaking our heads for one reason or another, though. He's a grandiose dick. I'm hoping for a pompous speech of self-aggrandizement and back-handed propaganda.

I could be wrong, but we'll see. My balls ain't crystal, you know.

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 10:58 PM (lq3Ak)

657 Slapweasel, when you have to utter the phrase, " honey put the gun down", you've made a serious error in female selection. BTW, yes I've said that. Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 22, 2013 02:57 AM (ejDk4) Depends on what, or who, she is aiming atÂ…

Posted by: The Political Gun at October 21, 2013 10:58 PM (Vk2pI)

658 "BTW, yes I've said that."
Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale

Damn. You ain't just whistlin' Dixie!

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 11:00 PM (lq3Ak)

659

ChicagoRefugee, my father taught me that very thing. He used to scold me when I incorrectly called the people of the U.K. British.

We do have a bit of Irish and Scottish blood in our lineage.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 11:00 PM (ejDk4)

660 Tranzis is author Tom Kratman's phrase. It's short for Transnational Progressives. You should look up his Rants sometime - fascinating and erudite, just like the best of Ace. He's a retired infantry officer. He sees clear.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:00 PM (1tL8B)

661 If young people know anything about WWII (let alone any other war, up to and including the "War on Terror"), it's through video games. Call of Duty, etc. Which, of course, are mostly just shoot-'em-ups with different enemy uniforms. Speaking to my 18 year-old nephew, whatever he knows about WWII is that his long-dead great-grandfathers both fought in it and brought back some cool trophies.

My lefty brother, who really should know better, subscribes to the theory that Japan would have surrendered without the nukes. Iwo Jima and Okinawa to the contrary...doesn't matter.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 21, 2013 11:02 PM (jSmN1)

662

The Political Gun, we weren't at the shooting range and we were standing face to face.

To make matters worse- my gun.

While I appeard calm on the outside, on the inside it was like that scene from Zombiland.

"Don't kill me with my own gun!"

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 11:04 PM (ejDk4)

663 Got a bit of English and Welsh myself, Tilikum. Proud of the kid. He told me, confidentially, that he doesn't think most of his teachers are very smart. He's right, of course. But he's got friends there and he does seem to be learning - he's just started debate. Good Lord, he was BORN for debate! Just glad he's not debating me for a change. Shame the legal profession is oversubscribed and imploding. Twenty years ago i'dve said he was a natural lawyer type. /mama mode

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:05 PM (1tL8B)

664

Hope you're right Slappy, I mean, they've already got the house in Hawaii planned - just as soon as he's finishing destroying the "real" enemy, us ...

CR, we all know its all the fault of a few English people lol ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 11:06 PM (/oZbq)

665 Typo above @ 653. I do know the difference between teachers and teacher's. Promise.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:07 PM (1tL8B)

666 "My lefty brother, who really should know better, subscribes to the theory that Japan would have surrendered without the nukes. Iwo Jima and Okinawa to the contrary...doesn't matter."
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet

"Theorists". Between Professors pumping out "Theory", Case-Law instead of Constitutional Law, the FSA/LIV's and Social Justice? It is no wonder that half the time, I'm alone with my thoughts and the other half, I'm "holding court" with some idiot whose "theories" keps piling up until I had to Lecture/Rampage.

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 11:08 PM (lq3Ak)

667 If young people know anything about WWII (let alone any other war, up to and including the "War on Terror"), it's through video games NAKALT (not all kids are like that) My son requested, and got, a 2 volume history of the War in the Pacific for Christmas the year he was 12. Currently, he's fascinated by the Cold War. He has also expressed homicidal desires with respect to Bill Ayers for, as he so eloquently put it, "totally screwing up MY country!" I think I'll be able to redirect his desires into simply pissing on his grave. I certainly hope so - for Mr. Bomby's sake.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:12 PM (1tL8B)

668 I'm off to watch Red Eye. Hold the Fort, Men. Stay Frosty and Resolute!

OUT!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel at October 21, 2013 11:13 PM (lq3Ak)

669 I see the blatant provocations of the shutdown theatre being a dry run for what we might see in a couple of years

There's a titanic behind the scenes struggle going on in the Democrat party right now.

Obama is attempting to hijack the party via OFA. The DNC is deeply in debt with no visible way to pay it off and its fundraising efforts have been heavily cannibalized by OFA.

There's only been a small handful of news stories about this internal funding crisis and OFA fund raising cannibalization, and those were largely ignored in the media.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 11:14 PM (l5zzX)

670

ChicagoRefugee, I have met many a teacher and he's right. Good on him for seeing it.

So, politics for him?

Sure it's a sleazy, disgusting blood sport, but....ok, maybe political commentator.

I wanted to do politics once upon a time, but I chose to do something morally superior like dealing drugs to preteens.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 11:14 PM (ejDk4)

671 Night all. Here is "Napoleon Bona - Part 1 & 2" from Budgie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGVpRnblpEs

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 21, 2013 11:16 PM (Vk2pI)

672 He's talking about politics, Tilikum, but honestly I'm not sure if there's any place left for a white boy without 'connections.' And he's the ultimate white boy, blonde hair and blue eyed. Unlike his parents, his hair didn't turn at adolescence (Damnit! I'dve killed for his hair color in high school). Girls have sometimes asked him if he dyes it, fer gosh sake!

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:18 PM (1tL8B)

673 Gee, am I the last straggler? Hello?

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:19 PM (1tL8B)

674

The article, and the comments, are delish! http://tinyurl.com/m4tp3c5

BOOSH! CHENEY! Private Contractors! Can't be prezzies fault, just those capitalist running dogs intentionally sabotaging the effort.

Kulaks will be punished ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 11:20 PM (/oZbq)

675 651
Cthulu, your point is valid, but I believe the real damage was done in the 2000 election, when algore refused to accept the outcome, and de-legitimized the presidency. From that point on, it was all fair game. Most of our voters are not even partially aware of the intricacies of our system (thanks long march), and the protections from tyranny the founders established, so when the flaws in the system were revealed, it resulted in a transition from "republic" to "democracy" where tyranny of the majority applies. Democracy, as we all here know, is inherently unstable and inevitably results in a majority voting a minority into slavery. What remains to be seen is how the next transition of power will play out, as I cannot see our new Caesar stepping down. I hope I am wrong, but I see the blatant provocations of the shutdown theatre being a dry run for what we might see in a couple of years ...

Posted by: Joe at October 22, 2013 02:51 AM (/oZbq)

The shit that was pulled in 2000 did more damage to the foundation than was readily apparent at the time -- and the 9/11 tragedy did a lot to distract afterwards. But there is nothing, nothing, nothing in the current era to compare to the thugocracy and lawlessness of the last 5 years.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 11:20 PM (T1005)

676 1). Invade Canada, the West Indies, Mexico, the South Pacific and anywhere else we fee like.

The problem with that is our military has been so gutted it can no longer function as a traditional empire's military might.

We're "empire lite". Clusterfuck, without the tasty plunder. Its not a good place to be.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 11:21 PM (l5zzX)

677 Ah well, thanks all for putting up with me. Much appreciated.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:21 PM (1tL8B)

678

Yes, the days of being an average Joe and winning in politics is the major exception and not the rule.

Your son should tell the girls he does, and then invite them over to show them how he gets that color. Heh.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 11:22 PM (ejDk4)

679 3). Replace Mitch McConnell with a horse.

Posted by: The Imperial Hat at October 22, 2013 02:57 AM (Vk2pI)

This may have already happened....and as to whether it did or didn't -- how would we tell?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 11:23 PM (T1005)

680 CR when I went to apply for MA program in Poli Sci at local unie, was told straight to my face "you're a white male, so you won't have much opportunity here" - techie life for me ha ha!

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 11:23 PM (/oZbq)

681 The problem with that is our military has been so gutted it can no longer function as a traditional empire's military might. We're "empire lite". Clusterfuck, without the tasty plunder. Its not a good place to be. Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 03:21 AM (l5zzX) Shhh! Don't let anyone know that!

Posted by: The Byzantines at October 21, 2013 11:24 PM (Vk2pI)

682 Happy-ish Tuesday morning' all y'all ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at October 21, 2013 11:24 PM (KoFMU)

683 The problem with that is our military has been so gutted it can no longer function as a traditional empire's military might. We're "empire lite". Clusterfuck, without the tasty plunder. Its not a good place to be. Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 03:21 AM (l5zzX) Just turn off the EBT card and tell all Free S**t Army that the free s**t is in those countries on a first come first serve basis...

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 21, 2013 11:25 PM (Vk2pI)

684

I look white, at least up to a point.

I get a tan, and I'm suddenly being called Pablo.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at October 21, 2013 11:25 PM (ejDk4)

685 This may have already happened....and as to whether it did or didn't -- how would we tell? Better oat bran on the menu ?

Posted by: Adriane ... at October 21, 2013 11:25 PM (KoFMU)

686 The media's complicity in the current state of affairs is beyond disgusting. On a brighter note, today I read an article speculating about the impending death of NBC. Reminded me that Ace called for a concentration of effort in that direction a while back. I do wish the techies wouldn't insist upon rescuing these dying media sycophants though.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:26 PM (1tL8B)

687 I went to apply for MA program in Poli Sci at local unie, was told straight to my face "you're a white male, so you won't have much opportunity here"

You could always do a legal name change, get that propagated through your undergrad transcripts, and then claim to be a minority. Universities don't look deeply at a student's past the way applying for a job with CIA or NSA would.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 11:28 PM (l5zzX)

688 This oughta be an interesting election in California next yearÂ… http://tinyurl.com/kptg64x

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 21, 2013 11:29 PM (Vk2pI)

689 686 This may have already happened....and as to whether it did or didn't -- how would we tell?

Better oat bran on the menu ?

Posted by: Adriane ... at October 22, 2013 03:25 AM (KoFMU)

The big thing on the Senate Dining menu is already bean soup and salads....what else would you want?

Posted by: The right honorable Wilbur at October 21, 2013 11:29 PM (T1005)

690 689 This oughta be an interesting election in California next yearÂ…

http://tinyurl.com/kptg64x

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 22, 2013 03:29 AM (Vk2pI)

Perdicaris alive or Waxman dead.

Posted by: Teddy Roosevelt at October 21, 2013 11:33 PM (T1005)

691

Posted by: ct at October 21, 2013 11:33 PM (T1005)

692 But there is nothing, nothing, nothing in the current era to compare to the thugocracy and lawlessness of the last 5 years. True, but Bush laid the infrastructure that ~~Obama~~ ValJar exploits so well. I know a lot of morons respect the man, but I just can't wrap my head around it. Bush gave us DHS. No Child Left Behind set the stage for Common Core. Bumped up muslim immigration after 9/11. And Jeb can EABOD. *steps off soap box*

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:34 PM (1tL8B)

693 Just turn off the EBT card and tell all Free S**t Army that the free s**t is in those countries on a first come first serve basis

It wasn't that long ago that armies ran on local plunder and officers looked at looting said plunder as the way to fund their retirement.

That's kinda been the norm for thousands of years. The US model is a new experiment of unproven worth

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 11:34 PM (l5zzX)

694 694 Just turn off the EBT card and tell all Free S**t Army that the free
s**t is in those countries on a first come first serve basis

It wasn't that long ago that armies ran on local plunder and officers looked at looting said plunder as the way to fund their retirement.

That's kinda been the norm for thousands of years. The US model is a new experiment of unproven worth

Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 03:34 AM (l5zzX)

That's just an EO. Let's go retro and stick "letters of marque and reprisal" back in the Constitution where they belong!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 11:37 PM (T1005)

695 How delicious, Hat! Waxman bears an uncommon resemblance to a pig. That snout of his has always been very off-putting.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:37 PM (1tL8B)

696 Purp, I'm so white I'm translucent - and ginger too - only if scotch/irish becomes protected class can I claim that half over the anglo ... I am happy with the way things worked out - I wouldn't have done well in academia in this environment. The poli sci/IR stuff helps me every day, as I work on global crap. Not having EE sometimes raises an eyebrow, but, when it hits the fan, no one is better, and that shows through ... Joint JD/Masters in Telecom is looking pretty interesting at my alma mater, if I could find the time/energy/backing from employer, or if I lost my job and needed to revert to more edumacation/credentialization ...

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2013 11:38 PM (/oZbq)

697 The big thing on the Senate Dining menu is already bean soup and salads....what else would you want? Pecan Bourbon Chocolate Pie is a personal favorite, but not my horse's ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at October 21, 2013 11:39 PM (KoFMU)

698 Let's go retro and stick "letters of marque and reprisal" back in the Constitution where they belong!!!! We'll spot 'em one-way tickets. They wanna come home, let 'em earn it.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:39 PM (1tL8B)

699 ChicagoRefugee, you'll be hearing from our lawyers over that comparison.

Posted by: The Pigs at October 21, 2013 11:40 PM (ejDk4)

700 letters of marque and reprisal

Yep. PMC's doing sanctioned anti-piracy ops would be a good way to get that rolling.

Old school. Time tested. Proven.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 21, 2013 11:42 PM (l5zzX)

701 Oh, and morning to you too, Adriane! (Though it's just another reeealy late night for me.)

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:42 PM (1tL8B)

702 Pigs, Discovery will be a stone cold bitch. Disavowing one's descendants is unlikely to be a viable legal move. Ancestry.com, remember? (LOL)

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:44 PM (1tL8B)

703

CR, you have a pont. No sane pig would claim Waxman, but it has to be done.

Sure we roll in the mud and our own feces, but there has to be standards, damnit!

Posted by: The Pigs at October 21, 2013 11:47 PM (ejDk4)

704 The shit that was pulled in 2000 did more damage to the foundation than was readily apparent at the time -- and the 9/11 tragedy did a lot to distract afterwards. But there is nothing, nothing, nothing in the current era to compare to the thugocracy and lawlessness of the last 5 years. Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 03:20 AM (T1005) Hide posts from (T1005) Also the Clinton non-impeachment destabilized the power relationship as well, and I'm sure there's more before that I'm not thinking of. Some days it's hard to determine what's just a nasty side effect of tactics like "poisoning the well," and what's part of a plan. Obama is attempting to hijack the party via OFA. The DNC is deeply in debt with no visible way to pay it off and its fundraising efforts have been heavily cannibalized by OFA. Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 03:14 AM (l5zzX) Hide posts from (l5zzX) Stage II. Stage I was Soros-McCain-Feingold, which put the DNC more in the hands of political action groups, like the ones funded by Soros. Makes you feel like a little fish in a big freakin' pond.

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 21, 2013 11:50 PM (qyfb5)

705 (Though it's just another reeealy late night for me.) I crashed about an hour before dinner. Out digging in the dirt much of the day. Front sidewalk garden thundering around the turn and onto the homestretch ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at October 21, 2013 11:50 PM (KoFMU)

706 701 letters of marque and reprisal

Yep. PMC's doing sanctioned anti-piracy ops would be a good way to get that rolling.

Old school. Time tested. Proven.

Posted by: Purp at October 22, 2013 03:42 AM (l5zzX)

It was back in, IIRC, 10th grade when I found out about those....and my reaction was: "Damn! That's totally badass! Who was the idiot that stopped doing that?!?"

Posted by: cthulhu at October 21, 2013 11:51 PM (T1005)

707

Well, this little piggie needs to go to bed.

Tomorrow I'll be seeing some hottie that I told I was a doctor. Offered some free medical care. Of course I lied so I can get her into bed. I'm a pig damnit! It's what we do.

Posted by: The Pigs at October 21, 2013 11:52 PM (ejDk4)

708 Pigs, In consideration of your stipulation of the undeniable facts of the case, I won't endeavor to publicize the truth of Waxman's ancestry. Unfortunately for you, his visage speaks for itself - and like all politicians, he's a camera whore. Perhaps you should consider donating the legal fees you've saved to Ms. Williamson's campaign? It's your only hope.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:55 PM (1tL8B)

709 Adriane, you're making me heartsick with envy (I kid!) Due to a spine that my orthopod swears is 40 years older than I am, I planted my last garden close to a decade ago. Gardening - The World's Slowest Art Form

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 21, 2013 11:58 PM (1tL8B)

710 So, what zone are you in, Adriane, if I may ask and you're still here?

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 22, 2013 12:01 AM (1tL8B)

711 ChicagoRefugee at October 22, 2013 03:58 AM (1tL8B) The hubby has said spine, so I do the gardening. We had my nephew come over and help move the rocks. Planted last year's garden too late in the spring and everything scorched during High Summer. Hope to get the perennials overwintered with some nice, big roots come next summer ... Hope springs eternal.

Posted by: Adriane ... at October 22, 2013 12:03 AM (KoFMU)

712 It was back in, IIRC, 10th grade when I found out about those....and my reaction was: "Damn! That's totally badass! Who was the idiot that stopped doing that?!?" Now imagine Anthony Weiner with said letter ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at October 22, 2013 12:07 AM (KoFMU)

713 So, what zone are you in, Adriane, if I may ask and you're still here? Mountain, i think ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at October 22, 2013 12:08 AM (KoFMU)

714

The irony of the left taking marching orders from a currency trader who stands to profit on the fall of the dollar never ceases to amaze me ... but - ends, means, all that - referenced above ...

Night all thx for keeping me (somewhat) sane knowing that I'm not alone - I'll see ya as my attention allows, or, in the camps ...

Posted by: Joe at October 22, 2013 12:08 AM (/oZbq)

715 Ah, the zones are USDA number thingies that help pick what survives where based upon maximum low and high temps in that area. You'll see the number ranges in plant catalogues and the like. Back in Chi-town, we were in 5a, as I recall, due to lake effect moderating temps. Hubby's folks in Upper MI are in zone 3. Sorry for the pedantic. It's my frustrated academic coming out. Sorry to hear of your hubby's spine. Degenerating spines suck. If sitting is uncomfortable for him, may I suggest a BackCycler based upon extensive personal experience?

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 22, 2013 12:20 AM (1tL8B)

716 716 Ah, the zones are USDA number thingies that help pick what survives where based upon maximum low and high temps in that area. You'll see the number ranges in plant catalogues and the like.

Back in Chi-town, we were in 5a, as I recall, due to lake effect moderating temps. Hubby's folks in Upper MI are in zone 3.

Sorry for the pedantic. It's my frustrated academic coming out.

Sorry to hear of your hubby's spine. Degenerating spines suck. If sitting is uncomfortable for him, may I suggest a BackCycler based upon extensive personal experience?

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 22, 2013 04:20 AM (1tL8B)

You may be interested to note that USDA zones don't work right in the West, because of weird microclimates. Instead, everyone refers to Western Garden Book climate zones. I've been developing a translation table, but it's not easy.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 22, 2013 12:24 AM (T1005)

717 687 The media's complicity in the current state of affairs is beyond disgusting.

On a brighter note, today I read an article speculating about the impending death of NBC. Reminded me that Ace called for a concentration of effort in that direction a while back.

I do wish the techies wouldn't insist upon rescuing these dying media sycophants though.

Posted by: ChicagoRefugee at October 22, 2013 03:26 AM (1tL8B)

===

the media types all get a paycheck and someone keeps approving those paychecks.

I urge everyone not to subscribe to the accidental paycheck theory. Wanna know why they write and say the things they do? Find out who approves the paychecks.

Posted by: jc at October 22, 2013 12:40 AM (PlzOe)

718 USDA zone 9, Sunset, 12 or 13 ... we scorch. Sidewalk garden II - lavender, small aloe, yucca, coral penstemmons, hummingbird mint (apricot and red), gaillardia, primrose, sedum, achillea, lemon thyme, and some assorted ornamental grasses ... Going to dig in some red sage, bulbine, and some yellow and some purple magnus coneflowers ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at October 22, 2013 12:49 AM (KoFMU)

719 Marianne Williamson? Really? This would be as sad as the proposed Ashley Judd Senate run. There is so much hot and cold nuttiness in her past that the Waxman campaign's biggest challenge would be deciding which to use.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 22, 2013 12:49 AM (kcfmt)

720 Weird, this divide between the DNC and OFA. It isn't getting any press but I'd bet there is a moderate element who is really unhappy with the Obama crowd and the Obamites don't want to let a little thing like term limits cause them to lose control of the White House.

All that talk about a third party among conservatives and it may happen on the left first.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 22, 2013 12:53 AM (kcfmt)

721 Roses are red, Lilies are white, Wishing all the ONTers, a cheerful Good Night ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at October 22, 2013 12:58 AM (KoFMU)

722 Watched the movie Twilight tonite. I was reluctant at first, as susan sarandon the raging moonbat is in it. But the flick also had Newman, Hackman, and young Reese Whitherspoon in it. James Garner, too.

As to Miss Reese, she very kindly showed her smallish but well formed boobehs early on in the flick. yum.

A short time later, they show susan nude, but out of focus. Thank you, Mr. cameraman for that small mercy.

The movie is a whodunit, with mild overall violence and not great lines being delivered. Still, I'd give it 2.5 stars out of 5.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 22, 2013 01:41 AM (wNF3N)

723

I suppose that it does no good to delete all of the anger, the rage honestly, that I felt upon seeing CzesÂ³awa's picture. The things, the hateful things, that I wrote before are probably still echoing somewhere in the bowels of the machine. So, I shall just offer up a prayer. Come swiftly, Lord.

Posted by: and irresolute at October 22, 2013 01:47 AM (RqHWH)

724 All that talk about a third party among conservatives and it may happen on the left first. Posted by: Epobirs at October 22, 2013 04:53 AM (kcfmt) Hide posts from (kcfmt) Part of the TEA Party effort was to peel off fiscally conservative DNC/DLC-type Democrats, an effort being systematically and almost hysterically blocked by left/MFM propaganda characterizing the fiscally conservative TEA Party with bogeymen descriptions. Well, it's an obvious threat, ain't it?

Posted by: Merovign , Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at October 22, 2013 02:23 AM (qyfb5)

725

Good morning, Horde. Up early again, tummy troubles again.

SNAFU, y'all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 22, 2013 02:50 AM (0HooB)

726 Wonder if the Kollege Kid knew that Hitler spoke Austrian?

Posted by: Peregrine Took channeling Dear Leader at October 22, 2013 03:50 AM (42ZAm)

727

Wrong, it is not about psychological manipulation of an innocent person, it is about breaking down the barriers a guilty person has to confessing.

An innocent person's reaction to the Reid technique is instant denial. A guilty person seeks out rationalization of his or her crime, they seek to minimize it, they seek to excuse it. That is not what an innocent person does. An innocent person denies the crime, an innocent person demands a strong punishment of the perpetrator, an innocent person does not minimize or rationalize the crime.

One important aspect of the Reid technique that you failed to report, is that the Reid technique uses observation of the subject as well as a non-confrontational approach. One such observation of subjects is their physical reaction to the interview. A guilty subject closes up while interviewed, while an innocent person moves closer to the interviewer, opening up their body position. A guilty person moves back in on themselves, closing themselves off, folding their arms across their body, not looking at the interviewer, and becomes quiet as their knowledge of their guilt becomes apparent to the interviewer.

People of the gun are reacting to an over-reaching attack on gun rights and a dictorial regime by accepting and aligning themselves with criminal behavior. This can be because they anticipate illegal and unconstitutional activity by law enforcement or that they are over-reacting.

Mostly it is because people of the gun are not in on the political fight except on gun issues. They are ignoring Obamacare and amnesty for illegal aliens, two issues that are undermining all rights in this country, one by overthrowing the Constitution, the other by importing anti-gun illegal aliens.

Your enemy is not the Reid technique, because the Reid technique was developed to interview and obtain uncoerced confessions of the guilty.

Posted by: Federale at October 22, 2013 07:09 AM (aO1W9)

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