1

2 Close your italics, sir.

3 I'Z A HTML HERO?

4 Did the dead guys get shirts?

5 I'Z A HTML HERO?

HEERS UR CHEEZBURGR.

6 Conservatives are shocked to discover that the truth no longer matters and they have no idea what to do about it.

7 So I should watch Letterman? No thanks.

8 Where's Joe?

9 As soon as the Penguins are knocked out of the Stanley Cup playoffs I will be all over the NBC boycott.

10 Ace is pissed. I like it when Ace is pissed, cause shit gets real. And the little furry guy understands human nature, and the spotting of nuances better then anyone I know.

11 Nordstrom testified that there was only one person who could have signed off on keeping the mission in Benghazi in view of a certain class of security issues with the compound. The same person who wanted to announce a full-fledged embassy in Benghazi when she came to visit.

12 "They have declared war on the truth."

This is what I said earlier, look it really doesn't matter because if the media don't talk about it, it didn't happen.

Go out into the world and ask any ten people about Benghazi and you willl find 8 people who don't have any idea what you are talking about, two who do and one of them are wrong.

Nothing will happen because of this, and there really isn't much that we can do about it either.  Suggestions?

13 Btw, I see a lot of NRO folks go on the MSNBC shows, with the clips  often linked from 'The Corner'.

14 I like where this is going.

15 I'm all in. I've been saying this for years. I would submit that it would be even better to do a boycott of all these.

16 The MSM is waging war on middle America. And we are letting them.

17 And the guys get shirts, dammit!

18 I'm going to take that with me.

"DON'T make a fucking MANIAC outta me!!!  Where's Joe?"

19 Almost Absolute Zero Cold Comfort: There will come a monstrous and catastrophic foreign policy/security/military failure. And at that point, if the republic survives--we'll have our revenge. Until then, I have begun a zero tolerance policy toward lefties.

20 Yes, sir. And, on the flip side, we need to frequently traffic and uplift conservative forces. Like Breitbart said: War

21 Punch Up!,  Ace

22 The only NBC show I watch is Grimm, and I forgot that one the other day.

23 " So I should watch Letterman?" Or just turn off the TV. I promise it won't kill you. There are these marvelous invention: Sheets of paper with words written on them. The words convey instructions or narratives. Books, I think they are called. And they are wonderful. Check some out.

24

I don't watch much, if any, NBC shows because Roku. And I don't go to many movies or buy new CDs, really.

 

Open to further suggestions, I guess.

 

If we succeed in crippling some division, won't they just invest in some other area?

25 Here, Garrett.

26 One of our biggest tactical errors as a movement was during the 2004 elections when we declared the Old Media dead. This was after Memogate and after Rather got shit canned. It wasn't dead. It never died. It only got worse.

27 And I mean, as a secondary matter, an end to the practice of linking the media.
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I was saying that months ago.

Why are we not out-and-out stealing from them?

They are stealing our country, our government, our future from us and we . . . . give them links to help boost their advertising revenue directly and through rankings.

Screencap that shit if you feel a need to provide evidence.

Otherwise, fuck them.

Let a thousand thistles bloom, or some such shit.

28 "an end to the practice of linking the media
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Thank you.  I have never understood the point of giving traffic to sites that we know are useless arms of the Liberals, even to make fun of them.  Talk about them, make fun of them, but don't go there. You can't win an argument with them so why do people persist in trying?

29 the spotting of nuances better then anyone I know. ***** I had a spotted nuance once. Cleared right up with a little penicillin.

30 >>>>Or just turn off the TV. I promise it won't kill you. There are these marvelous invention: Sheets of paper with words written on them. The words convey instructions or narratives. Books, I think they are called. And they are wonderful. Check some out. ...I hear that Bill Ayers is a good author, maybe I should check him out

31 Or...we could spend that TV time creating our own media. Blogs are okay, but as Ace often points out, people are dumb, because dumb is easy. We need to publish pictures and video. Because video is easy, and easy is holy.

32 Oh, also if you're gonna go full lefty-style BOYCOTT you need to come up with some snappy bumperstickers

33 >>>Why are we not out-and-out stealing from them? I prefer to steal things that have value.

34

NBC is now finishing behind Spanish-language Univision in the ratings. It is time to take NBC's pitiable, money-losing position and turn it into a financial disaster that they can no longer ignore.

 

 

Run 'em into the ground, drive their stock prices so low even I could buy them. 

 

Then have  somebody on our side buy them.

35 I'm here, I'm here. And I got a shirt.
(no pants).

36 nuance.... it's what's for dinner

37 I'll tell ya what fair use is : putting my boot to your ass for using clips of me without my permission.

38 Freeze the target. Personalize. Polarize. Brian L. Roberts is the CEO of Comcast. He has a fairly low public profile. He shouldn't. He endorsed Obamacare. Brian L. Roberts.

39 Does this mean we have to use stamps.com?

40 Hell yes. This needs to happen. This is happening.

41 The only problem I really have is you're attacking a Hydra.

NBC may be finishing behind univision.
Of course NBC also owns univision...so...I guess it's a wash.

Even if you kill NBC, USA's doing pretty well.
Syfy is in that weird sorta "on and off again" mode it hits up every few years.

And Comcast is troublesome because it's managed to mandate monopoly's in certain areas.

There's also this problem that conservatives have really never been big on boycotts, I think it's our nature.  Sell me a product and shut up.  If you're product is good (i.e. entertaining) I'll take it. If not I'm leaving it.

(Interestingly, NBC proper's stuff is getting far to overly pandering to hispanics to be entertaining.  It's no so much that I don't like hispanics, it's that the pandering is done so poorly it's just bad and it lowers the overall quality of the product.
"Look here's a character that only talks in spanish on my English TV show.  They add nothing to the plot but get tons of screen time."  Or "here's shakira on The voice with lots of spanish singers."
It's transparent.

42 >>>Or just turn off the TV. I promise it won't kill you. There are these marvelous invention: Sheets of paper with words written on them. The words convey instructions or narratives. absolutely true but I am trying to offer as small a step as possible. That's why I'm not saying "Boycott every TV station" -- because I want to push something achievable, not something less so. And yes, people watch far too much tv and will find their lives much improved by disconnecting from the Idiot Box. Books are wonderful. I'm sorry I passed them over for so long.

43

Hearing "I slice like a f-ing hammer" never gets old.

 

44 Ironically, I was getting the guys shirts while Paul was going off on his integrity kick.

45

I'm open for ideas.  I haven't watched anything on the network for years - but I'm not a Nielson member.  Comcast isn't available as a provider.  Gimmee an idea fearless leader(s)?

 

46 Paul Anka has a new duets CD out I think.

47

>>>I prefer to steal things that have value.

 

Man, you didn't learn anything from Katrina

48 Who will be our Sandra Fluke?

49

And the little furry guy understands human nature, and the spotting of nuances better then anyone I know.

 

 

It's a matter of perspective. 

Nuance  occurs  close to the ground.   That's right in his wheelhouse.  Also, it sticks to fur.

 

50 Crikey, does mean I have to get one of those satellite dishes? I am accustomed to suckling on the teat of my Comcast coaxial cable for TV.

51 Hey, remember "www.mediavetting.com?"

I do.

Yeah. Somebody was talked out of it. Don't know the reasons why. I can imagine the threats and the fears.

But: It was always a good idea.

There should be a file of dirt an inch thick on every major media personality.

52 NRO has sent emails with petitions to sign to keep investigation going. I sent to every normal Person I know. Unfortunately I lib cousins.

53 Anyone got a list of business that advertise on NBC?

54 What about Tea Party style protests outside of NBC stations and affiliates?

55 Integrity fucking kick, yeah awesome. Fucking kick big ears and skank bitch

56 Run 'em into the ground, drive their stock prices so low even I could buy them. Then have somebody on our side buy them. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at May 09, 2013 03:27 PM (+z4pE) With a shell company. Notice how they circle the wagons and rally the troops to try to block the potential purchase of the LA Times by the Koch Bros? Notice how they blocked Rush from buying into a football team?

57 We're not going to be as strong as our weakest link.

58 Steve Burke is the CEO of NBCUniversal. Also an Executive VP at Comcast.

59
Ambinder is right about "why?", although in his case its a disbelief that they would, because barack and hillary never lie or something.

But it is clear that the video excuse was a clear attempt at misdirection and obfuscation, the question does remain as to why they lied.  And my guess is its a doozy, not just plain incompetence, based on their actions since then, ie, hiding witnesses, intimidation, etc.

60 RoyalOil

I'd be willing to work on that.  I have no connections to the inside of the world of "entertainment" though.

These fuckers need to hang for some of the shit they're pulling.  If the best we can start with is potentially blackmailing the bastards into actually doing their jobs, then so be it.

61

"Suggestions?"

 

Drink heavily.

62 Or just turn off the TV. I promise it won't kill you.
There are these marvelous invention: Sheets of paper with words written on them. The words convey instructions or narratives.

No, a boycott in itself won't be effective.  Sorry guys.

What should happen is not only to boycott the likes of NBC, but go out of your way to support better alternatives.

If they lose customers, they can easily tell themselves it's anything but people being disillusioned with their product.

But if the lose customers to a competitor, that sends a message.

63

"This ends it for me. This is the end of things."

 

I prefer "THIS is the hill, motherfuckers."

64 Bravo! There's no other option than ending our support of the companies that are actively trying to destroy us.. Nothing else matters. Everything is trumped by the lies the MSM tells that are dispersed and gobbled up as truth.

65 I might add that you could gently suggest to the cob loggers that they fucking quit linking to the NYTimes.
 
That shithole paper pisses me off 10 times as much as NBC. You will never see me posting a link to them.

66 I have comcast as email & cable provider. I would change to Verizon but FIOS isn't available in City.

67 I mean Comcast. Insty has a link up to an attempt to get 60,000 people to show up to let Comcast's CEO know of investor's displeasure with MSNBC. There are these marvelous invention: Sheets of paper with words written on them. The words convey instructions or narratives. Books, I think they are called. And they are wonderful. Check some out. Yaaaawwwwwnnnnnn. Boring oh noes tv is so awful and I am so much better than you because I don't watch it posturing is boring. Let's see, I read something like 5-6 books a week. I also watch a metric crapton of television. It's not my fault that others cannot do that simultaneously. I'm going to go with the (late, lamented) BFF on this: Don't hate me because I watch television. Hate me because I have more channels than you.

68 BitTorrent everything!!!!

69 It's time to slice.

Like a fucking hammer.

70 I remember when a government cover-up was a big story, worthy of wall-to-wall coverage.

71 FYI there is a protest going on at shareholder's meetings for Comcast specifically regarding NBC. If you've got the time you could join in.

72 its getting pretty obvious that the left wants us to go quietly into the night. I may go, but it won't be quietly. And no...that is not a veiled threat of criminal intent.

73 Dans ce pay-ci, il est bon de tuer de temps en temps un amiral pour encourager les autres.



This is often quoted in the military in a slightly different manner than in Voltair's Candide but I can't remember exactly how it goes and I am too0 lazy to hunt for it.

74 If you are still supporting the corporations (Cable TV) that are actively trying to destroy our future, then you are Part of The Problem.

75 We ought to make a Bud Light commercial for Obama.

Here's to you, unqualified, media-protected, affirmative action president...

76 I have a pretty vicious rant and an important action alert lined up.

77 Great piece, ace.  Slices like a fucking hammer. 

78 Teh gays gets skirts.

79 Some ideas. Automated twitter accounts. Companies measure the emotional "heat" of twitter. If thousands, millions of people are all saying "Fuck Comcast" on Twitter -- they do notice that. You can setup a twitter account with automated postings that just basically curse or insult the people/company you hate. It drains you emotionally to actually write out mean stuff --- just let the computer do it for you.

80 makes me wonder if the libs who pretend to watch PBS while they're seething at Fox News won't use their Nielsen book to pretend they watch NBC primetime.

81

>>There's also this problem that conservatives have really never been big on boycotts, I think it's our nature.

 

Oh, see what's been happening to Dick's Sporting Goods since they started being...well, you know...about guns.

82 May I humbly suggest killing two birds with one stone? I think we ought to also throw our support behind CBS at the same time. Why? Because we should demonstrate that serving a center-right is profitable. And they were willing to break slightly from the left-leaning model with Atkinson.

83 THIS is why it REALLY pisses me off that NBC bought the Golf Channel and Versus.

Assholes....ruining it for everybody.

84 The next time I hear some Conservative friend of mine bemoan the MSM and then turn around and tell me how the Jets did on NBC the other night - I'm going to explain to him that he is Part of The Problem.

85 I've never seen that clip before, but I got to tell you, fellas.  Paul has got his fucking shit together.

86 Well, Community is probably cancelled after this season (which is just as well since I haven't forgiven Joel McHale for showing up in that goddam "Enough" video after Sandy Hook), so yeah, I'm on board.

87 GE could need some lost cash flow too.

88 NBC delenda est!

89 Well I'm on board with an NBC boycott. Especially since the show Revolution went all "midoclorian" on us. Oh yeah, it's little micro organisms all around us that killed the power. Stayed tuned for next season's cameo of Jar Jar Binks.

90

With a shell company. Notice how they circle the wagons and rally the troops to try to block the potential purchase of the LA Times by the Koch Bros? Notice how they blocked Rush from buying into a football team?

 

I saw today where Juan  McLame is trying to pass cable TV  "ala carte" legislation again. That, plus a wee bit of   boycottiness from   us could sink them.

 

Hop springs eternal.

91 Nothing will happen because of this, and there really isn't much that we can do about it either. Suggestions?

Take a page from the Dem playbook and import a new electorate.  I'm thinking Victorian England.

92 As for NBC I thought we had already been boycotting them for a long time.  What need is some more folks with radio time to go viral on them. By that I mean that they should get loud, obnoxious, and vulgar in the attacks.

93

Boycotting just seems so 70s and shit. Its like how I was drinking one of those Monster Energy Drinks and it was the Kona one and I pointed to the Tiki graphics and was like, "Man, that reminds me of how Greg blew his Dexterity check and plowed a nosedive off his surfboard" and everybody was like "Wuh? Tiki Greg Dexterity check??"

 

Nah, not really like that but I wanted to throw that one in somewhere and I'm in a shoehornin' mood.

94 Punch Up!, Ace Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2013 03:24 PM (o6hXg) Owowowowowowow Pieces of donut. Out my nose. I know, I know, that's what I get for violating Rules for Morons.
I shall now go put on pants in penance.

95 A good start is simply using quotes and the author's name and title of the article but not listing the link or even site. I mean do we really need to go to Huffington Post or Daily Kos or NBC or CBS? 
I'm frustrated because I have a Yahoo email which would be a real pain to give up,  but I hate giving them any business. 

96

Walrus Rex

Conservatives are shocked to discover that the truth no longer matters and they have no idea what to do about it.

This exactly right and I don't think they will figure it out.

97 You don't have to BitTorrent everything -- since that does expose you to liability. There are tons of sites that host every TV and movie ever made -- just download it from there. If you live in an area where Comcast has a cable monopoly then just pay for internet. Or just the ultra-basic TV and download the rest. Don't pay Comcast for phone service -- use a wireless provider.

98 I'll give an example of one that's easy to do. Here in MN we have two papers, the Star Tribune (Red Star as we call it) They are a New Your times wannabe. I used to go to their site, mainly just to read the slanted articles and then argue with the moonbat posters. It was pure joy to rile them up and it was as easy as fish in the barrel. But I quit, no hits from me. They won't get one penny of revenue from me. It's a small gesture I know, but if enough of us do it. It can be effective. Oh and I have also given up pretty much all movies.

99 Money doesn't matter The honor of owning a lefty rag trumps all. These crappy papers and networks have been bleeding greed for years but they keep on keeping on... I'd like to know how.

100 "Hate me because I have more channels than you. " I don't hate you at all. I am just pointing out, there are more options than just Leno and Letterman. Personally, I almost never read when I am away from my desk. There are two many video games to play.

101 Give me a girl at an impressionable age and she is mine for life.

102

Here, put this letter "E" in my last comment.

 

Anywhere will be fine.

103 Oh, and hammers don't slice.  They bludgeon.

I wish someone in a T-Shirt had the balls to correct him in that video.

104 Oh, and hammers don't slice. They bludgeon.


Forget it, he's on a roll.

105 NBA Playoffs. Sorry. Not this year. And not MLB. And not the NFL. If you care so little for your country that you feel you have to support our sworn enemies so you can watch your sports programming - then you're no better than a leftist.

106 We must ensure that bloggers can never become self radicalizing again!

107 Football Night in America sucks ass so I'm in.

108 Every channel on your cable TV lineup gets a cut of your monthly cable bill.

109 If you live in an area where Comcast has a cable monopoly then just pay for internet. Or just the ultra-basic TV and download the rest.

Don't pay Comcast for phone service -- use a wireless provider.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2013 03:37 PM (ZPrif)v

Go with wireless internet access as well.  Most metropolitan areas have Clear or another wireless carrier for internet access.  Rural areas can get DirecTV or something for internet.

Fuck Comcast.  In the squeakhole.  With a barbed wire fence.

110 There are tons of TV streaming sites nowadays where you can stream live news and sports. You don't even need cable TV for live stuff nowadays. vipbox.tv has every sport that airs pretty much anywhere in the world.

111 What a shame that Hillary wasn't in Benghazi that day To fulfill dream of making that permanent post. I read that only POTUS can give stand down order. I put IBD editorial in one thread last night, JEF went To sleep.

112 As Marine Gen. James Mattis says, "Be polite, be professional, and be prepared to kill everyone you meet."  Metaphorically, of course.

I'm looking forward to the day when Matt Lauer is on the streets of Manhattan with a cup begging for change.

113 You can't win an argument with them so why do people persist in trying?
Posted by: Deanna
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You have to pick your battles. Every now and then, when some nugget of irrefutable truth emerges. I will stop over at Huff Po to see if it is being reported. Mind you, I do not go there casually...., only when I am armed with specific and undeniable truth. If I find something reported there that amounts to spin, I post as a flat observation what I know to be an inarguable counter point, with links. I rarely receive responses, which is fine..., more than fine. It means that however much the libtards dislike the truth, they can not refute it. It is from small seeds that mighty oaks grow. If just one tiny seed takes root, then it is progress..., real progress.

114 92 - Well I'm on board with an NBC boycott. Especially since the show Revolution went all "midoclorian" on us. Oh yeah, it's little micro organisms all around us that killed the power

Also, this.

115 I keep telling people to stop linking Politico since they are just leftist advocates and not a real news site.  But the ABCNBCCBSCNNPBS cabal is just as bad now.

Time is long past to stop linking and watching them all.  The only positive note in WaPo's newspaper division's 1st quarter numbers was increased online advertising revenue.  It was up from a low starting point, but still up, and everything else is circling the drain.  Time to stop helping them stem the bleeding.

116

Ace...absolutely.

 

I've been boycotting the Peacock for over a decade.

A lot of people have.

 

With greater numbers, it will be even more effective.

 

Question:

Does Comcast enjoy a Monopoly in the areas that it is in?

 

117 Oh! Marc Ambinder! That guy is world class asshat. When he wrote his anti-gun piece for the cause he wrote that "bullets lose their accuracy the more times they are chambered". What a POS.

118

Eh, boycotting the use of any Comcast product is tough.  This business is close to being a monopoly, and it spans both production and distribution. 

I think that an approach like what Instapundit has been arguing for is better:
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/168558/
Basically getting R's on board to hurt the entertainment industry legislatively.  Apparently Mr Maverick McCain is talking about doing this.  (Just when I think he is a total asshat, he redeems himself).

119 Satellite TV is an option for most of us.

120 >>>I haven't forgiven Joel McHale for showing up in that goddam "Enough" video I saw his standup act, and he made a joke comparing Kourtney and Khloe Kardashian to MasterBlaster. He also had some great lines in the RiffTrax for Red Dawn. The guy is genuinely funny in a moron sort of way. I'd give him a pass for the occasional tardy video.

121 I've been hammering on this for months. The media is the root of all of our problems. Obama, the economy, immigration, our horrible schools, all of them. If we can't expose the corruption and insanity to the majority they will only hear the hate about us. Not linking is only a start. We must full on boycott the media and the corporations that advertise there. Maybe millions of tea Partiers buy up the media. Boycott, take over, replace the media.

122

According to Wikipedia (large grain of salt) they own:   

 Comcast Cable Communications

 Xfinity

 AT&T Broadband

 Susquehanna Communications

 Adelphia Communications (partially owned by Time Warner Cable)

 Patriot Media

 Commuter Cable

 CN8 – The Comcast Network

 Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic

 SportsNet New York (joint venture with the New York Mets and Time Warner Cable)

 MLB Network (joint venture with Major League Baseball and other providers)

 Comcast Sports Southeast/Charter Sports Southeast

 Comcast Television (formerly Comcast Local) available in Michigan

 E! Networks E! Entertainment

 Style Network

 G4

 NBC Sports Network (formerly Versus, which was formerly Outdoor Life Network)

 The Golf Channel

 AZN Television (formerly International Networks)

 ExerciseTV

 FEARnet

 NHL Network (United States) (joint venture with National Hockey League)

Philadelphia Flyers

Comcast Interactive Capital

 Comcast Spectacor Comcast-Spectacor operating sports and entertainment venues

 Comcast Spotlight (Advertising)

 Comcast Interactive Media

TV One (in partnership with Radio One and DirecTV)

 TVWorks (67%) (in partnership with Cox Communications)

 GuideWorks (51%) (in partnership with Gemstar TVGuide)

 PBS Kids Sprout (in partnership with HIT Entertainment, PBS and Sesame Workshop)

 NBCUniversal (100%) (no longer a joint venture partnership with General Electric)

123 And they were willing to break slightly from the left-leaning model with Atkinson.


*snort*

Just before they canned her.

124

I shall now go put on pants in penance. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 09, 2013 03:37 PM (VtjlW)

Let's not get all extremist with the penance, please.

125 I shall now go put on pants in penance.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 09, 2013 03:37 PM (VtjlW)

All that does is punish those around you.

Your penance is TO THE WEB CAM WITH YOU.

126 Pick a fight. Just start quoting them wholesale.  Do copyright violations left and right.  Dare them to come after you.

127 Oh yeah, it's little micro organisms all around us that killed the power


LOLWUT?!?!?!

128

I'm looking forward to the day when Matt Lauer is on the streets of Manhattan with a cup begging for change.

 

And I look forward to not hearing from Tingles Matthews  and that Rachel Maddow fellow.

129

Kill.  Your.  Cable.

 

Try it.  Live your life again.  Spend that money on something that's actually important.

130 I couldn't agree more. Watching Hillary and Obama get the third world dictator special treatment tells me either this is stopped somehow or I can't look at the flag anymore.

131 C'mon people.  I can live without cable so can you.  If you're on Comcast drop it.

132 Oh OT:  Tspeedbump Tsarnev Has been buried somewhere undisclosed. Hopefully a pig farm.

133 MSNBC--one word: Sharpton

134 According to Wikipedia (large grain of salt) they own:

Channels I don't watch anyway.

135 Comcast is the #1 cable provider in America. 23 million customers. Time Warner is #2 with $12.5M Cable companies have been fairly non-political since they rely on government monopolies. They are sensitive. Comcast is sensitive to this shit. They will reign in MSNBC if attacked hard enough. Remember, Comcast got local permission from local and country governments all over the country for their local monopolies. Comcast can't just tell us to fuck off.

136

Hold it, NOW we're supposed to start boycotting NBC???

 

I thought we had been doing that for years.  I have, at least. 

 

Maybe we're doing it wrong, maybe we're supposed to  START  watching them.  For the children. 

137 It won't work Ace. Most of these people will never give up their sports programming. They'll bitch and moan about the treatment we get from the MSM. But that very night they'll be sitting on their fat asses giving NBC, CBS, ABC, and the rest their hard-earned dollars. It's real fucking easy to talk tough. But give up sports programming - ain't gonna happen.

138 If you care so little for your country that you feel you have to support our sworn enemies so you can watch your sports programming - then you're no better than a leftist. Posted by: fyscyl clyff at May 09, 2013 03:38 PM (Z1/Hr) ***** Horse crap.

139 Doesn't matter if you watch them. You are giving them money every month with your cable bill.

140 I don't hate you at all. I am just pointing out, there are more options than just Leno and Letterman. Personally, I almost never read when I am away from my desk. There are two many video games to play. Posted by: mrshad at May 09, 2013 03:37 PM (Xqfwb) You know that's a play off the don't hate me because I'm beautiful ads, right? And playing video games is verbotten as well as you are just giving money to Silicon Valley and SV hates us too!
Look, I get the point ace is making and I don't actually disagree with it. I just have a wee bit of an automatic eyeroll reaction to the entire you are not a True Conservative unless you boycott all pop culture position.* This comes from growing up in an extremely Evangelical Christian household where listening to Amy Grant was considered a bridge too far. See also bias discussion of the other day. *Not that I'm saying that you are taking that position, I'm just being snotty as always.

141 I'm with you, Ace.  I think just about everyone here is.

142 Obama would just bail them out if they failed.

143 And playing video games is verbotten as well as you are just giving money to Silicon Valley and SV hates us too!

Giving them money?  LOL!


*checks BitTorrent connections*

144 100 You don't have to BitTorrent everything -- since that does expose you to liability. There are tons of sites that host every TV and movie ever made -- just download it from there. 

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2013 03:37 PM (ZPrif)

I'd add that the USA managed to survive and prosper without most of those TV shows and movies - so ask yourself how much do you want to support the liberals behind that content?   

Don't have to go cold turkey if you don't want to, but is the entertainment you're getting worth the money you're enriching liberal causes with? 

145 But it is clear that the video excuse was a clear attempt at misdirection and obfuscation, the question does remain as to why they lied. And my guess is its a doozy, not just plain incompetence, based on their actions since then, ie, hiding witnesses, intimidation, etc.

 

 

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 09, 2013 03:31 PM (jKWYf)

 

 

My guess??? Think Col. Oliver North.

 

The CIA annex was running guns to Syrian groups with KNOWN Terrorist ties... which means under the War on Terror Act, we were aiding the Enemy, because we are NOT at War with Syria.

 

The Legal and Moral Case can be made, that this is Treason...

 

Thus, the intitial lack of support after the first Benghazi attack.. because they did not want the Military involved... as they might talk...

 

And after the attack on the CIA annex?  They HAD to deflect the terrorist meme, because there was no Real reason not to send support in after the FIRST attack....

 

They were hoping it would be over with the first attack... and thus got caught with their pants down...  BUT, they still did not (and do not) want to talk about that CIA annex.... which was a LARGE group of people to be sitting in a War Torn area, with no other real American prescence there.

146 Re: Tsarnaev, were his hands removed and face too hamburgered whils he slipped overboard from USS Chester Nimitz in honor of an ancient Chechnyan tradition?

147

Targeting organizations is a waste of time. 

 

If you want to change the system, focus on individuals out of the limelight.  Executives and producers who can be picked apart by intense scrutiny and ridicule.

 

Destroy them personally and put the fear of god in their peers that the same will happen to them.

 

 

148 Can't wait for Pens vs Isles tonight!!

Wait, what?

149 MSNBC gets 20 cents every month from your cable bill. CNN gets almost 60 cents. FoxNews gets 90 cents

150 They will reign in MSNBC if attacked hard enough.

Remember, Comcast got local permission from local and country governments all over the country for their local monopolies.

Comcast can't just tell us to fuck off.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2013 03:42 PM (ZPrif)

I think you're wrong here.

The only thing that will reign in MSNBC is a full fucking bankruptcy of the parent company and its subsidiaries..

They already have ZERO ratings and hemorrhage money, yet they continue to broadcast the worst shit ever put on TV.

151 137 Even PBS Sprout?

152 Oh and I have also given up pretty much all movies. Posted by: Minnfidel at May
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Same here. Every now and then, Mrs. Hammer tries to drag me off to see some trendy flick. I dig in my heels. Sooner or later the entertaining ('entertaining', mind you, none have any other redeeming qualities) movies make it to the local Pizza & Flick. There, the move is $3.00, and I can have beer and pizza to see me through.

153 If you care so little for your country that you feel you have to support our sworn enemies so you can watch your sports programming

Just add "watched the Brewers suck ass on FOX last Saturday" to my list of ways I'm destroying America. It's so far under "goes out to work every day to support self" I'm completely out of fucks to give.

Although I do feel bad I didn't know Yuni B defected from Cuba via speedboat as an adult until I read it about Sunday.

154 I don't specifically recall why the the name Marc Ambinder rings alarm bells.  I'll wager he was an Iraq war flak for the Democrat Peace Machine™.

See also: Kevin Drum, Scott Beauchamp et. al.

155 I never had cable. Can only watch movies on the TV now. Don't miss not having TV.

156 Hughs satellite internet is a viable alternative to Comcast.

157

 One of our biggest tactical errors as a movement was during the 2004 elections when we declared the Old Media dead. This was after Memogate and after Rather got shit canned.

It wasn't dead. It never died. It only got worse.

 

Posted by: El Kabong at May 09, 2013 03:25 PM (WAXuD)

 

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Fucker Carlson said that just last year.  Right before his fat ass took a full-time  gig on the curvy couch at Fox, interviewing the world basketball dribbling  champion  and learning how to cook fucking paella from  Chef Rocco.

158 The thing is, the majority of the population will not take steps to educate itself while as you correctly state ace that the population is being denied information. Even if NBC folds, the others will willingly go into the toilet to help the left wing agenda, see Newsweek, Washington post ect ect. Don't get me wrong I wholeheartedly embrace making them pay for simple spite, but I really don't see what anyone can do when the entire industry that informs the American people is corrupt without the majority of Americans demanding it...and even then they have proven that they straight don't fucking care and will willingly go bankrupt or quit their jobs rather than be impartial.

159 American media museum honors Hamas cameramen Washington based Newseum to add names of two cameramen, labeled terrorists, killed by IAF strike in Gaza operation, to memorial wall Regarding the bombing of the media offices, the Spokesperson's Unit said they were used by Hamas as command and control centers. The IDF website wrote that though al-Kumi and Salama were indeed photographers, they are unworthy of the title "journalists" since they received their pay from a terror group whose broadcasts encourage and promote attacks on Israeli citizens. Piss in that "museum"

160 MSNBC gets 20 cents x ~100M households. $20M per month in subscriber fees. CNN gets 3x that so $60M per month.

161 Welcome to the dark side, Ace. We have cookies and beer, but mostly beer. Folks, the mainstream media is a beast, a Hydra-headed monster. Starve it. Cancel your cable. Cancel your satellite, if you have that. Take your TV set to a gravel pit, and shoot it with a shotgun. Post a video on Youtube. Quit going to movies in the theaters. Cancel any newspaper subscriptions. Think of all the money you will save! If there is a movie or TV show you "must" watch (there really aren't you know), find a way to steal it. Torrent it, borrow a DVD from the public library and rip it, or view the show on-line. Quit feeding the beast. Just look at how many threads here contain references to Mad Men, or Justified, or Game of Thrones. How many progs get wages from the production of those shows? Sure, you're going to tell me that Nick Searcy is a Moron, and a good guy. Well, he's the exception that proves the rule. The nice thing about walking this talk, is that it doesn't cost you a cent; in fact it helps you keep your money in your jeans. What's not to like?

162

125 - cool. I don't use any of those.

 

Of course I *am* boring. YMMV

163

We REALLY need to get behind the "ala carte cable" legislation. The sad fact is that, if you subscribe to cable, your monthly payment to your cable company is subsidising lots of dreck that you consider absolute trash. Whether it's MTV, CNN, MSNBC, BET or any of the other channels you get but don't watch, you are putting money in their pockets simply by subscribing to cable. If I could get Fox News without going thru cable, I'd do it in a minute. Unfortunately, by subscribing to cable, I am involuntarily sending a few cents to the above mentioned channels that I consider to be poison. Wait until Al Jazeera becomes part of basic cable and part of your cable bill is funding the operation of that channel!

Get on board! Much as it pains me to say a kind word about McCain, I intend to support "his" ala carte cable legislation. You should write your senator and ask for his support on this issue too.

164 NBC = Nothin But Crap.

165 BTW. I wonder if Paul ever did find Joe. I bet Joe wasn't really glad he found him when he did.

166 NBC is backed by GE money, which is government money. It's going to be difficult to bankrupt them as long as the democrats are in charge.

167 OK - not for nothing, but I can get radio coverage of my sundevils streaming, and there's a guy that's livecasting sundevil football too, so I'm willing to give it a shot and keep my bare minimum Dish Network programming and forgo addt'l sports channels and HD.

168 MSNBC doesn't get zero ratings. They actually do decent for a cable channel.

169 I have to go back to work, but skimmed AmSp Email with story that some of the media have Turned on TFG, it named Dowd, Millbank And a few others.

170

Ace, do you think there is any use in only going to their websites to search for the topics they are trying to bury?

Lately, I've been going to MSNBC and using their search engine to search for articles about Benghazi. Then I click on several of the "Benghazi" articles and leave. Same with CNN.  Each of them usually has articles - but they are buried on the site.

I am hoping to cause them to see the query and the traffic bump the articles up to a more prominent place on their main news page.  That way some of the low information liberal viewers might have cause to pay some attention to the issue.

 

 

 

171 I have been boycotting Hollywood (excluding kid films) since they let CAIR ruin The Sum Of All Fears. NBC (excluding football) since 2004. Obviously I need help.

172 @ Muldoon If you care so little for your country that you feel you have to support our sworn enemies so you can watch your sports programming - then you're no better than a leftist. Posted by: fyscyl clyff at May 09, 2013 03:38 PM (Z1/Hr) ***** Horse crap. - Seamus Mulddon Spoken like someone who bitches and moans about the MSM but supports them every single day and has no intention of stopping.

173 Let me tell you how to kill Comcast/NBC: Mandate a al carte cable. Hell, just allow it to be an option. Tell the libs they can use it to get rid of FNC. They'll love the idea.

174 Oddly, I wouldn't know half of what  bullshit the enemedia  puts out if I didn't read  about it  on my favorite rightie blogs.

175 borrow a DVD from the public library

...and watch it on what? You shot my TV.

176

If you care so little for your country that you feel you have to support our sworn enemies so you can watch your sports programming - then you're no better than a leftist.

 

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at May 09, 2013 03:38 PM (Z1/Hr)

 

Who pulled the string  on your back, fucker?

177 Don't start with NBC.

Start by killing the weakest members of the herd. Newspapers. They're the straggling, old beast that's falling behind the herd. Find the weakest one and kill the fucker. Concentrate the strongest part of your forces on the weakest part of the opponent's forces.

178 159 Hughs satellite internet is a viable alternative to Comcast.
Posted by: @PurpAv
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We dumped Charter for Dish. Perfectly satisfied. I despise Charter.

179 NBC was the same network that doctored the Zimmerman audio tape to make him appear a racist. If you get your "news" from them you are an imbecile.

180 when's the insurrection?  I'll working on my torches... 

181 I iz gonna shun teh sportz watcherz

182 It used to be the Left who shouted "Steal This Book!". But, fuck it, we're the counter-culture now. "Stream This Sporting Event!" "Torrent This TV Show!"

183 The SV millionaires might hate us, but game creators tend toward the libertarian. I get you are being funny. But not everyone who produces popular media is against us. There is a very strong pro-freedom streak in the video game culture. (Not the game press though, those fuckers are full lefttard. It is something about journalists and their casual relationship with the truth.)

184 Who pulled the string on your back, fucker? Heh. Dale Carnegie could make another fortune around here.

185 They'd shit themselves if a group of about 40 conservatives jumped into one of their Today show outdoor segments with some nice signage and a few well placed accusations of lies and corruption.

186 I'm working on my torches...  good grief

187 Morons and 'ettes, man/woman your battle stations!

Good job, Ace. Good point.

The sad thing is, as I will see when I visit relatives, the brainwashing has been done. It really could have been them listening to teh jug-ears in 2008, his sssssszzzzzzzz sounds that hypnotized. Or they are just plain stupid and buy into the, "Well, only FOX is reporting it therefore it is not true" neener-neener.

I want to punish the media and this is a good start and a good point. It is one of the reasons I rarely wade over to the swamps of WaPo, unless I am feeling, shall we say, in a hissy-fit of pure rage and I cannot contain it except to lash out at those basement boys who linger there, and chase a few away with the sheer laser beam of my brain and fingers. It is cathartic, yet I know every time I click I am giving ad money to those socialists and fabricators and obamaeaters. So, in spite of my pure enjoyment, like cat and mouse, I try to control myself. Plus! I doubt many read it anyway except for the basement boys. I had nearly all of the information, at the time by the British Press, on Benghazi before the first week was up. I was comment carpet-bombing for a weekend on WaPo to tick people off (this was the first of two bombing missions. The second was Gosnell). Some of those little pip-squeaks do probably remember some of what I wrote and, when the truth came out, disguised by WaPo as "rumors" or some crap, they probably thought, huh, that wacko wingnut commenter said this! She must be a spy for the media militant revolution machine (or whatever anarchists squeal over).

Sometimes my rage just overflows.

188 Welcome to the party.  I've been boycotting all of them for years.

189 So....Libs are souless devils and Paul Anka slices like a fuckin hammer.

Some thing never change.
 

190
Other than sports, I watch ZERO network TV.  Torrent downloads, anyone?

191 The MFM is upset that the bitter clingers in the USA still overwhelmingly support Israel.

192 Push their remote trucks over every time we see 'em.  Or we can get pet monkeys to fling their shit at them and we'll just say  " awww sorry, he can't help it... he's a liberal monkey "

193 I think Comcast is vulnerable to a coordinated smear campaign. Brian Roberts doesn't want his name to be shit. He doesn't want the Comcast name to be shit.

194 Get OUR media on this: 1. Hicks said HRC planned to make Benghazi a US outpost and announce its opening later in the year.. 2. A terrorist attack in Benghazi would blow her plan, hence the "video" strategy. 3. WHY was this Clinton's plan? (omitted from the ARB report, by the way).

195

If you care so little for your country that you feel you have to support our sworn enemies so you can watch your sports programming - then you're no better than a leftist.

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at May 09, 2013 03:38 PM (Z1/Hr) 

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I hear Che was a  huge Packers fan, but he couldn't facepaint because the green and gold clashed with the red star.

196

Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for May 6, 2013

P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s) Total Day



FNC
       1,405        267         544 CNN
          504        154         224 MSNBC
          374        101         158 CNBC
          156         48           67 FBN
            49         12           28 HLN
          522        177         285






Yeah, they aren't zero, but they suck pretty bad.

197 Is it OK to still attend sports and entertainment events, oh revolutionary comrades, or is that sinfully oppressive and disgrace our collective like watching them on the teevee?

198 Sorry about that.  The format really f'd me there.

199 Guys get shirts! We're all gonna get shirts!

200 Luckily, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula is still safely in prison, where he can't do us additional harm by producing more videos.

201 Start by killing the weakest members of the herd. Newspapers. They're the straggling, old beast that's falling behind the herd. Find the weakest one and kill the fucker. Concentrate the strongest part of your forces on the weakest part of the opponent's forces.
Posted by: SwampFox
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Thus I dumped our local Gannett-owned rag. I now buy a Sunday paper off the rack, which does not add to their circulation numbers. Otherwise, I read the front page while in the grocery store etc., generally, there is nothing there worth reading, or just really vapid propaganda.

202

Posted by: Beagle at May 09, 2013 03:48 PM (sOtz/)

dunno why you would skip the commentary track on Sum of All Fears, it's the greatest one of all-time (and I'm being dead serious)

203 @Radish - Just add "watched the Brewers suck ass on FOX last Saturday" to my list of ways I'm destroying America. It's so far under "goes out to work every day to support self" I'm completely out of fucks to give. ----------- I see.. because you have a job - it doesn't matter that you provide daily funding to our country's sworn enemy. Yeah - you work hard. You deserve to be able to fund the destruction of America.

204 I kicked Comcast to the curb a few years ago as soon as AT&T Uverse became available in my neighborhood. Verizon FiOS is another competitor.

205

166 We REALLY need to get behind the "ala carte cable" legislation.

 

This!

 

Think of it...

Being able to pick and choose which channels you subscribe to.

 

We were supposed to get this 20 years ago!

But the weasels in Congress...on both sides...killed it.

 

I remember Cable CEOs saying:

"But, but...we *have to* bundle the channels together and offer them as a Package. Otherwise, some channels would not survive!"

 

Gah!

206 As the lifelong pathological liar that she is, until she gets on the lie detector and asnwers some question I'll continue to believe she and SCoaMF killed them on purpose because if they had, they would have done nothing different than they did.

207 MSNBC makes money. It's not a charity channel. And they do better in the demo than on the whole. FoxNews viewers actually do skew older. CurrentTV was a money loser. MSNBC really is a profit center. The programming is cheap and it gets decent ratings for a cable channel.

208 So where's our ACORN? Where's our Media Matters? Where's our Occupy Movement? Where's our Center for American Progress? Thing of it is, we, as responsible citizens who just want to be left alone and free to pursue our own interests, do not have the time to be perpetually enraged and engaged like the professional leftists and crackpots. Maybe it's time we did. Maybe if we helped Atlas shrug his fucking shoulders, the whole shithouse can LIB that much faster. I'm fucking sick and tired of seeing my country destroyed before my eyes. WAR.

209 So, who at NBC was on JournOlist? And how do we start a fund to get their names up on a billboard in their home city(ies) asking them why they colluded in secret to lie to the public?

210

We need to use the tactics of the left.

Go after the execs...personally. Protest in front of their homes. Protest at their business. Do the sit ins. Etc. Tell them it will continue until they stop advertising on NBC.

 

211 I hope all you absolutists on abstention to media are consistent. I assume none of you drink alcohol since the Unions dominate every aspect of it's production and distribution. Getting drunk is more important than not supporting your enemies? Or God forbid you ever take a vacation that involves a toll booth. Having a day at the beach is more important than not filling the public employee union trough? Must be a bunch of degenerate fucktards.

212 How about support conservative-friendly, ie, even honest papers wherever they exist.   Magazines.?  what, none ?  really?  Oh well, fuck 'em.  let 'em burn.  They all blame the internet but it really comes down to they can't control the narrative anymore....   heh heh... nice while it lasted

213

Hey big hero "fyscyl clyff ", do you pay taxes?  Because a real patriot would refuse to pay all income taxes.  I mean, do you even KNOW where the leftists in government spend that money!!  You might be sent to jail, but hey, you would be fighting the destruction of America.

214 214 We need to use the tactics of the left. Go after the execs...personally. Protest in front of their homes. Protest at their business. Do the sit ins. Etc. Tell them it will continue until they stop advertising on NBC. Posted by: Tilikum The Killer Assault Whale at May 09, 2013 03:55 PM (uhftQ) See my #212.

215 184 when's the insurrection? I'll working on my torches...
Posted by: Yip
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Rope. We're gonna need rope. Perhaps the progressives that want to raise hemp are onto something after all...

216 It's not an issue of purity. It's doing what you can, when you can, to fuck over the enemy. I'm not gonna criticize anyone if they feel their life and domestic bliss require a cable TV subscription and Comcast is the local monopoly. Just limit giving them cash when you can, where you can.

217 @USS Diversity - I hear Che was a huge Packers fan, but he couldn't facepaint because the green and gold clashed with the red star. Fucking hilarious. When your grandkids ask you "what happened to America?" You can explain to them that you only funded the propaganda arm of our destroyers a little bit because... "FOOTBALL!!!"

218 Sooooo I can't watch The Voice anymore? 8>(

219 Quibble: Admiral Byng was shot, not hung.

220 I can haz permission to attend a lecture on TC Steele at the art museum? 

I mean, I know museums are tools of the progressivarchy, but the dude painted landscapes.

221 Fuckin' A, Ace.  It is long past time.  Hoist these MoFo's up the yardarms (whatever the fuck that means!).

222 Must be a bunch of degenerate fucktards. I wear cast-off burlap sacks for shirts.

223 "comcast sucks ass" bing search -- 40,000+ results

224 I cut the cord last week; canceled my cable service. When they asked why, I said it was too expensive and that since Comcast now owns NBC, I didn't want to be paying Chris Matthews, Larry O'Donnell, and Rachel Maddow to trash my beliefs every night. I could have also have mentioned their shitty customer service, but mainly, I wanted them to know their politics were hurting them.

225 215 you're right! we can't be consistent therefore why do anything! give up, give up all of you!

226 The guy is genuinely funny in a moron sort of way. I'd give him a pass for the occasional tardy video.

Oh, he's very funny - we saw him and Nathan Fillion riffing off each other at a ComicCon panel and it was possibly the funniest thing I have ever seen.  Plus he seems like a reasonably intelligent guy, and if you heard him discussing his long and ultimately fruitless attempt to add a backyard pool to his house in L.A. you would think that he would get why more gubment regulation is not an automatically good thing.  So it's doubly frustrating when he shows up as an advocate for restricting my rights.

227 Here's your problem:

NBC is already effectively boycotted by viewers. All networks are statistically unwatched. Check any channel's "total" viewership. Nobody's looking. But the few who do never fucking shut up about it.

Of course, don't help the networks. Don't give them anything. But don't think that your refusal to give hurts them. Whether you watch or not--you are not their customers. Figure out who is. Then hurt them.

"Advertisers" is not the right answer. Not exactly. What does their money do? It doesn't get them "your eyes." They know the numbers. Nobody's looking.

Almost nobody.

Who is?

What does TV do? What does it make happen? What are advertisers buying from it? Is what they're buying negative?

Fire up the ol' hamster wheel...

228 Nobody is saying be absolutist. Just do what you can, where you can, to avoid funding the enemy. And, yes, it's impossible to cut it out completely. Just do some.

229 I assume none of you drink alcohol since the Unions dominate every aspect of it's production and distribution.
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You don't live in the south, do you?

230 I would LOVE to have a sizable group with movie-set pitch forks and lit torches march on some of these TV exec's houses and make a ruckus... heh... scare the crap out of 'em...  next... Pelosi's place!!   "  ...she's a witch! "

231 If you get your "news" from them you are an imbecile. Posted by: Mr Pink at May 09, 2013 03:49 PM (ChWmi) Or, you have a really big head fetish.

232 27 One of our biggest tactical errors as a movement was during the 2004 elections when we declared the Old Media dead. This was after Memogate and after Rather got shit canned. It wasn't dead. It never died. It only got worse. Posted by: El Kabong at May 09, 2013 03:25 PM (WAXuD) Exactly right, and I've said it myself. The media learned their lesson from that, and circled their wagons around Obama in 2008. They made damn sure they were all on the same page.

233 Just look at how many threads here contain references to Mad Men, or Justified, or Game of Thrones. How many progs get wages from the production of those shows? Sure, you're going to tell me that Nick Searcy is a Moron, and a good guy. Well, he's the exception that proves the rule.


The nice thing about walking this talk, is that it doesn't cost you a cent; in fact it helps you keep your money in your jeans. What's not to like?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2013 03:47 PM (fNpC1)

I gave up the Orlando Sentinel in 2004 and told them why as they endorsed Kerry. I rarely read any paper online. But I have to say I am not giving up Raylan in this revolution, nor CSI-LA or Major Crimes or my few other shows I escape to. I watch FOX News at 6pm. That is all, and nothing regularly other than that (we record shows). I'd rather have my eyeballs picked out by ravens than sit through O'Reilly (especially if Gerry Rivera is on, that pantyhose). Where was I? I will fight in the trenches, sling all sorts of mud and excreta, but do not ask me to give up Raylan.

234

Rememeber when Christian  Slater  had that pirate radio station and he told everybody to TALK HARD?  And then that  girl put all her track and field  medals in the microwave and it BLEW UP?!

 

THAT  WAS FUCKING AWESOME.

235 See my #212.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

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We need more people who think like this.

236 Yeah - you work hard. You deserve to be able to fund the destruction of America.

When I sat on my couch last week, watching an over-the-air broadcast that cost me not a single fucking penny, I "funded the destruction of America."

That is so fucking stupid even the Kossacks are scritching are their heads.

237 The Left's boycott of Beck worked. FoxNews pushed Beck out the door because the advertiser boycott worked. Or rather, the advertiser smear campaign worked. -- Fuck tide for advertising on that racist fuck Beck's FoxNews show. Those claims worked.

238 Comcast can't just tell us to fuck off.

Sure they can.  And probably will.

After all, how many of "us" are there?

Approximately 30% of the public identify as Republican.

Of those, how many are politically active and aware conservatives?  It's a guess, but let's say 30%.

Of those 30%, how many read conservative blogs and would be willing to participate in a boycott?  My guess- about 10%

Of that 10%, how many regularly watch NBC and/or have Comcast as a TV / Internet provider in the first place?  Wild ass guess- 40%.

Where's that leave "us"?  .30 x .30 x .10 x .40 = .0036= .36%

Yeah, I know.  I'm being a naysaying, pessimistic, defeatist jerkwad pissing in everybody's Corn Flakes.

239 I'm glad I homebrew for those rare occasions when I do drink. And the beach is basically thankfully within walking distance...glad I don't have to interact with any toll collectors to get there. I think my constitutional conservativism is pure by Lincolntf...whew. My day is made. And thank you, U-Verse.

240 All I can say after that video is---

It moved.

241 226 Must be a bunch of degenerate fucktards.

I wear cast-off burlap sacks for shirts. Posted by: toby928
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Our children just play naked in the dirt front yard.

242 Hey.. and BTW.. Where's Joe?

243

I would LOVE to have a sizable group with movie-set pitch forks and lit torches march on some of these TV exec's houses and make a ruckus... heh... scare the crap out of 'em... next... Pelosi's place!! " ...she's a witch! "

 

I'll bring the Weighing Wood  and a duck.

244 I didn't avoid the TV media to make a point. I was just never interested in getting cable and something happened to the TV reception so that I can only play movies and I didn't care to get it repaired. Just saying it is possible to live and not have or watch the alphabet stations.

245 @dan-o - Hey big hero "fyscyl clyff ", do you pay taxes? Because a real patriot would refuse to pay all income taxes. I mean, do you even KNOW where the leftists in government spend that money!! You might be sent to jail, but hey, you would be fighting the destruction of America. It's quite telling that you're so addicted to your MSM programming that you compare a simple clicking off a service (which actually saves you money) with an illegal activity that would send you to jail. A little perspective, please..

246

"I'm fucking sick and tired of seeing my country destroyed before my eyes.

WAR."

 

Newsletter subscription application inbound.

 

Playing  nice and by the rules is what got us in this fucking mess in the first place. 

247 The actual # of people who organized the successful boycott of Beck was very small. Constant smears work.

248

I stopped watching TV when they cancelled Tony Orlando and Dawn. I just couldn't do it anymore, I felt like my life was lie

 

/*sobbing*

249

For a boycott to work, 3 things are needed:

1) Needs to have very, very wide support
2) Needs to have a clear target
3) Needs to be relatively easy to do.

Boycotting Comcast is none of these things.  Support would be limited to committed, informed conservatives.  The target is a multi-national conglomerate with its hands in multiple different industries.  And finally, it is the provider of a product for which, often, there is no alternative, that people really want (making the boycott not easy).

I don't watch NBC on a regular basis (just sports), because I think they suck.

I'm just saying calling for a boycott isn't going to go anywhere.

250 @206 "Commentary track"? Help. I was learning about Islam, global jihad, and the sahwa Islamia while Hollywood was still chasing my dad's and granddad's bad guys. Terror nukes and Islamic imperialist martyrdom just make sense together.

251 224 I can haz permission to attend a lecture on TC Steele at the art museum?  I mean, I know museums are tools of the progressivarchy, but the dude painted landscapes. 

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, ray of sunshine at May 09, 2013 03:57 PM (ZKzrr)


It'd be just like you to destroy America, one museum at a time.  

252 Quibble: Admiral Byng was shot, not hung. Posted by: Brian Pendell at May 09, 2013 03:57 PM (GDDIu) ***** Oh, you'd better believe me mister. He was hung!!

253

I'll go one step further.  What about organizations who support NBC?  For instance, someone upthread mentioned National Review Online folks showing up on MSNBC. 

 

I haven't subscribed to NR for a long time and I don't look at their site more than a couple of times a month...but if they are willing to support MSNBC by sending their people to appear, why should we support NR/NRO?  They aren't appearing to change minds...they are appearing to self-promote.

254 The nice thing about walking this talk, is that it doesn't cost you a cent; in fact it helps you keep your money in your jeans. What's not to like? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2013 03:47 PM (fNpC1) You telling me what the fuck to do with my money. You buying into the position that every single thing in life is political.
You determining for me from what sources I should and I should not take joy. You telling me what the fuck to do with my life. To each and everyone one of you setting out the position that a True Conservative must not give a single penny to any production or entity that in any way employs a progressive, you do, of course, realize that you are wholeheartedly embracing the position that political beliefs are the true and sole criteria by which a person should be judged? Of course you do, none of you are so idiotic as to not comprehend the underlying premises upon which your position is based. If you want to accept that position, you are certainly free to do so. You are not, however, free to demand that I do the same. You are also more than welcome to criticize my choice to reject such a contention. I am just as welcome to find your contention lacking.
To those of you stating pick up a book instead, are you also extending your ban to books as well? After all, Stephen King is an enormous Leftist. For all of you who enjoy John Scalzi? Go read what it is he thinks about those on the Right. Precisely the same criteria can be applied to books as it can to television and film. Let us not even get into the music issue. I lived for many, many years in a culture in which the choice of appropriate forms of entertainment was incredibly circumscribed. I sat through the debates as to whether allowing a television into your home was sin. As noted above, I am biased against those who attempt to chain my choices. It matters not to me if you claim that I must do so for theological or philosophical reasons. It's the same how dare you scold. To all those of you here who stake out the position that going to a movie starring someone who is an open progressive should be verboten because you are giving financial support to such progressive, remember, there are many on the Left who believe that those who hold conservative positions should not be hired by anyone to work anywhere. You are accepting the same underlying belief. I do not. Now, I don't hold to the hard form alternate position of the one I am criticizing. There are actors whose works I will not see and authors whose works I will not read. But I will not write off entire branches of entertainment simply because those who participate therein take positions with which I disagree. I have read enough books to know how that story ends.

255 "Hey You Guys, when someone shows up occasionally to sow discord and try to distract everyone from what they're trying to do, what do we call that person?" "A troll?" "Very good! And what do we do with that person?" "Make the entire thread about them and ignore our actual purpose in the discussion?" "...I can see we have some work to do here."

256 @236   I agree, the MSM in general and several specifically are complicit in a coverup.  I think it is arguable and should be made very public.  Call them out on their advocacy of this administration.  How they attacked the GOP and Romney immediately and went out of their way to assist the administration in getting the story out there and of course... moving on to other shit.

257 So nothing?  No attempt at anything?

258 @254 Not true. Again. The advertiser "boycott" against Beck worked. The # of people who did it was really tiny. The advertiser's didn't abandon Beck cause they were losing sales. They just didn't want their name shit on daily by this organized Media Matters astroturf campaign.

259 The media only reinforces what is taught in the schools. See the sidebar of a dozen American traitors/terrorists who are now in academia. To stop the media, you've got to get to the kids.

260

@USS Diversity - I hear Che was a huge Packers fan, but he couldn't facepaint because the green and gold clashed with the red star.

Fucking hilarious. When your grandkids ask you "what happened to America?" You can explain to them that you only funded the propaganda arm of our destroyers a little bit because... "FOOTBALL!!!"

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at May 09, 2013 03:57 PM (Z1/Hr)

 

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*jerks thumb* who's this assclown again?

261 Oh, you'd better believe me mister. He was hung!! LOL...thread winnah!

262

236 Can everyone forgive me if I nitpick about something please? The media isn't "being silent about a coverup". They are doing the coverup.

 

Posted by: The Mega Independent at May 09, 2013 03:59 PM (uvaJ1)

 

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Thank you.

Yes. Yes they are.

 

The Liberal Media are participating in the Coverup.

 

And not just on Benghazi...on all the things that the Left doesn't want the Truth spoken about.

 

263 Somebody here mentioned that all these MFM "personalities" have private lives and maybe they would not enjoy having some if the details of those lives publicized: Messy divorces, DUIs, unexplained children. Booking photos What if we could make them the story by doing to them what they did to that poor schlub in Cleveland Sand in the gears The machine will never serve us, so we should make sure that it never serves ANYBODY ever again by making it a national joke

264 Roku. PlayOn. Hulu Plus/Netflix/Amazon. Antenna. Be done with comcast.

265 Paul Anka: [singing and playing electronic keyboard] To stop those monsters, one-two-three, Here's a fresh new way that's trouble-free, It's got Paul Anka's guarantee ... [winks] Lisa: Guarantee void in Tennessee. Paul Anka and Lisa: Just don't look! Just don't look!

266 I assume none of you drink alcohol since the Unions dominate every aspect of it's production and distribution. Don't drink alcohol. Mormon.

267 It'd be just like you to destroy America, one museum at a time.

I got lots of time to fill between giving little girls the erroneous impression that it's OK to keep a roof over their own head instead of expecting someone else to do it.

268 Where's Joe?

269 Look I'm down with this effort and all but people let's be realistic.  As many have said and I say it as well, I have effectively been boycotting these morons for years and years already.

Hell you talk about MSNBC, NO ONE WATCHES MSNBC!  The media isn't the only problem.  We have a culture here and the media is just one part.  It's the schools and the teachers, the pop music culture, the media, the unions, the state and the bureaucracy.

How do you fight that?

I'm sorry peeps I wish I was wrong, but of course, I'm not.  We are fucked.

270 Count me in. Totally fucking all in.

271 The actual # of people who organized the successful boycott of Beck was very small.
Constant smears work.

And yet, Fox News still survives as strong as ever.  Beck still does what he does, but elsewhere.

272 Ace isn't making some call to purity. It's stupid to keep attacking that straw man.

273 ...and watch it on what? You shot my TV. Posted by: HeatherRadish™, ray of sunshine at May 09, 2013 03:49 PM (ZKzrr) Heh. Actually, I can play a DVD movie on my computer, and watch it on the 23" screen. But I never have. You know what? Once you get used to not watching TV, and not going to movies, you don't miss them. Not one bit. The last time I watched my TV, with an over-the-air signal, was September 11, 2001. Really.

274 You know what else? We have to support the good guys. That includes NOT picking a scab on Breitbart/Nolte or Rush Limbaugh every time they mess up. All outlets fuck up on occasion. Daily Caller, PJ Media, NRO, etc have each fucked up on at times. I am sick of the fighting on Twitter and elsewhere. They need to STFU and settle what looks like a personal vendetta in private.

275 Everyone: Cancel comcast and switch to Verizon et al. I did

276 Beck has lost most of his influence. When Beck was on Fox he routinely drove the national conversation. He doesn't now because he's off TV.

277 I also think for it to work, we should designate a day to drop Comcast. They need to get a slew of calls in a short span of time or they won't even notice it.

278 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2013 04:06 PM (ZPrif) I agree.

279 I do live in the South, in NC The State decides the price, purchase point and taxes on every drop of liquor sold. Not counting the good stuff I get from "the guy who lives out West", which is tax-free and delicious.

280
So can we finally proceed with Operation Pipewrench?

*sigh*

281 I haven't subscribed to NR for a long time and I don't look at their site more than a couple of times a month...but if they are willing to support MSNBC by sending their people to appear, why should we support NR/NRO? Only time I go to NRO is when Ace links there; only because you can't go there without ads popping atcha every whichaway.

282

Posted by: Beagle at May 09, 2013 04:02 PM (sOtz/)

Commentary track is an audio track of directors/actors/tech people talking over the movie (some are quite informative) but this one has Tom Clancy shitting on the movie and verbally abusing the director

283

@259 AtC!

 

Here. You get twenty internets.

 

Pure gold.

284 And I'm sick of cons linking Politico and Buzzfeed's daily "GOP infighting" gossip-mongering.

285 You know what else? We have to support the good guys. That includes NOT picking a scab on Breitbart/Nolte or Rush Limbaugh every time they mess up.

Support?  Yes.

Stay silent as the Breitbart sites continue on their downward spiral into WND territory?  No.

286 I think Beck was pushing the boundaries on Fox and he really , really felt he should move onto his own deal.  In the way of a proving concept, I think he believes he could break the MSM hold and provide content and make money "outside" of their system.   I think it was that as much as Fox acknowledging the boycotts. 

I may have missed something, so tell me if you guys know more juicy stuff on this...  cause I never heard he was forced out.  Just wanted to break and develop his dream media outlet.

287

That's why I stopped giving page-views to certain websites and stopped clicking on links at HotAir a couple years ago. There are rare exceptions based upon the article; I'm no absolutist.

288 We are fucked.
Posted by: BlearyTruth
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Agreed, sadly, but we must keep up the struggle. Remember your comment previously re Tyrone Woods laser-painting the mortars at Benghazi.

289 -
"CurrentTV was a money loser."
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I'm convinced CurrentTV was slapped together solely to give Algore something to "sell" to Middle-East oil money. This way he doesn't have to admit his real job title:
OPEC Vice-President in charge of hindering non-OPEC oil production.

290 I am sick of the fighting on Twitter and elsewhere. They need to STFU and settle what looks like a personal vendetta in private.

A thousand times this.

Actually, I can play a DVD movie on my computer, and watch it on the 23" screen.

Has there ever been another human being in your living room?  (And did you properly vet all the CEOs and chief engineers of all the companies that created, shipped, and sold your computer for ideological purity before wasting your money on them, so you can be assured you did not fund our destruction?)

291 10 Hopefully on Saturday night.

292 Nuck Fenbiesee.

293 252 The actual # of people who organized the successful boycott of Beck was very small. Constant smears work. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2013 04:02 PM (ZPrif) When you have the backing of the MFM (delenda est), which Media Matters did. We need to get into their wheelhouse and do some damage. Thus my repeated calls for things like handing out "smear papers" on specific reporters and outlets to GOPers who are going to talk to them, and putting up billboards targeting JournOlist members and making the public aware that these people conspired to lie to them.

294

The Problem, as I see it, isn't that Conservatives don't organize or can't boycott or can't be consistent or blablablah

 

The Problem, no joke, is so fkn *many* of us think we're fighting the Good Fight from the Inside. You know "I'm working on change all right, I'm a change agent, Jack." And its All.Fucking.Bullshit.

 

What have you changed? You're just an employee of some libtard fucktank getting promoted over by a-holez that laugh behind your back or in your face. And its because there's always tomorrow to get started on that change you been meaning to get around to.

 

Meantime, you just vote and watch sports and sometimes speak up in support of rightwing shit in the elevator if you think you can get away with it without losing your job.

295 I quit the networks cold turkey many years ago. Quit HBO after The Sopranos ended, must've been 7 years or so ago. Cancelled my newspaper subscription during the 2008 election due to it being a NY Slimes wanna-be (so much so that its editor now actually works for the Slimes) and I told them why I was cancelling when I called. I stick with YNN for news, it is Time-Warner's news station, and is one of the very last non-biased news outlets in the entire MSM...I applaud them. No use for FOX other than Red Eye and The Five (mainly for Gutfeld) In today's absurd world, Red Eye's absurdist take on the news is perfect for me. And guess what? I miss NONE of them. None. Not even a little bit.

296 Just wanted to break and develop his dream media outlet.
Posted by: Yip
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I'm contemplating the $5.00/mo. fee for Blaze TV. I might be willing to pop for the $60 for a year, to see/support the idea.

297 I hope Rush tells WABC that he gets his own news readers at the top and bottom of the hour. I am dick of Ann Comptons out of breath , orgasmic panegyrics to Obama .

298
File it under: Bumps in the road

"I think it was absolutely the right thing for us to do to align ourselves with democracy, universal rights —a notion that people have to be able to participate in their own governance.

But I was pretty certain and continue to be pretty certain that there are going to be bumps in the road because, you know, in a lot of these places, the one organizing principle has been Islam."

-- Barack Obama

September 23, 2012

299 278 Once you get used to not watching TV, and not going to movies, you don't miss them. Not one bit. Yep. I still watch a couple of the HBO and Showtime dramatic series for entertainment here and there, but I can't say I've missed any of the alphabet networks since I all but gave up TV. I'd rather interact with the content I'm consuming than sit in front of anyone's one-way broadcast service for any period of time. I gave up on sports pretty much as well when the field got plowed before that Patriots field goal a few years back. It's (sports, in general) just all one big fucking squirrel anymore.

300

To all those of you here who stake out the position that going to a movie starring someone who is an open progressive should be verboten because you are giving financial support to such progressive, remember, there are many on the Left who believe that those who hold conservative positions should not be hired by anyone to work anywhere. You are accepting the same underlying belief. I do not.

***

 

Choosing where I spend my money is the same or even similar as discriminating against someone employment wise?

No it isn't. Denying Sean Penn or Morgan Freeman the monetary fruit of my labor is not the same in any way as discriminating against someone in the job market.  

301 (And did you properly vet all the CEOs and chief engineers of all the companies that created, shipped, and sold your computer for ideological purity before wasting your money on them, so you can be assured you did not fund our destruction?)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, ray of sunshine at May 09, 2013 04:10 PM (ZKzrr)

lol

bingo

302 Ace, is there any concern that if a "boycott NBC" picked up support from Rush, etc. the left might start to watch NBC again to support it. Not against your idea, I just wouldn't want it to backfire.

303 Daily Caller is a tabloid with lurid stories all the time. Drudge links Infowars. My take on Breitbart is they have weak personnel, especially cooy editing. But they all have issues. Ben LOLCats Howe and pals have a personal beef with Breitbart. That's clear. They need to deal with it in private.

304 @alexthechick - "To each and everyone one of you setting out the position that a True Conservative must not give a single penny to any production or entity that in any way employs a progressive, you do, of course, realize that you are wholeheartedly embracing the position that political beliefs are the true and sole criteria by which a person should be judged? Of course you do, none of you are so idiotic as to not comprehend the underlying premises upon which your position is based." ---- Standard straw man tactics of someone in denial. No one says this: "True Conservative must not give a single penny to any production or entity that in any way employs a progressive" But I guess that makes you able to justify propping up the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party.

305

Goddamn, I love alexthechick.

 

I also lived in a household controlled by a  fucking nutcase non-denominational  Christian  church, where  everyone went to great  pains  to show  just how fucking ascetic   they could be.  "Look  how much  pleasure I'm denying myself!   How much  pleasure did YOU deny yourself.?   Not enough!  YOU"RE DOING IT WRONG."

 

Burned books,  smashed rock albums - the whole works.  If they could have fucking banned dancing  until a plucky kid from Chicago showed  us that we could indeed  Make A Joyful Noise  Unto The Lord while accidentally rubbing our  junkpiles together in a warehouse  on the outskirts of town,  they would have.

 

Fuck  that and fuck you.  I wouldn't let my parents tell me what the fuck to do when I got old enough to leave,  and I damn sure don't care what Internet Johnny  thinks about how  I spend my leisure time.  I does what I likes and I likes what  I do,  and I didn't spend six years of my life humping a ruck so I could be told I'm not PURE enough in my conservative asceticism.

 

Bravo,  AtC.

306 now I remember why I don't spend time on here during the day outside of the gaming thread

307 ace, ever heard of White Water? Hill has done this shit before.

308 He doesn't now because he's off TV. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2013 04:07 PM (ZPrif) --- Then whose that guy I DVR every day, and then watch, whether I'm watching or not so he gets credit in the ratings? BTW - this week he's doing a story of the sex trade in Mexico. Gonna be funny to watch libtards try to take the opposing viewpoint.

309 The NBC advertiser boycott interests me.  I suspect the list is rather long, can someone act as fleet commander and pick targets?

310 Who are the weakest links in the NBC pantheon?  The stars.

We should go after them and a lot of them are easy pickings.

Start with Matt Lauer,  whom many already hate for his treatment of Ann Curry.  My "moving from liberal to conservative with a stop in the moderate zone" daughter just told me she will NEVER watch Matt Lauer agin,  after reading an article about him in People.  I mean she DESPISES him!

We should get that jerk fired or whining to his psychiatrist.  A concerted effort on him would send him over the edge and set off a war for who would replace him.  And whoever replaces him should be monitored and harrassed for an stupid stuff he does.

And what about Trump?  He should be asked to go to another network when his contract is up.  I believe any other network would love to have the ratings from "The Apprentice."

You see where I am going with this.  Yes,  you can go after Roberts of Comcast,  but no one knows who he is.  More bang for your buck,  more publicity,  and more allies if you go after the stars.  

So I say start with Lauer.

311 Pour encourager les autres?

Let's do it for reals. How about some pitchforks and rocks at Comcast/NBC HQ?

Have to laugh at TPM headline:
"Darrell Issa Acknowledges He Learned Nothing New From His Benghazi Hearing."

Yeah. That's right. Issa ALREADY knew that Obama's a lying corksoaker and Hillary was his shield and Rice was his mouthpiece.

So yeah. He learned nothing NEW.

F 'em with a rusty piece of rebar.

Meanwhile there's a guy in prison for Blasphemy, an American First.

312 Yeah! I have been planning to dump Comcast; now I can do it with Virtue ... just like a liberal would.

313 Choosing where I spend my money is the same or even similaras discriminating against someone employment wise? No it isn't. DenyingSean Pennor Morgan Freeman the monetary fruit of my labor is not the same in any way asdiscriminating against someone in the job market. *** And it's not just money that's the issue. Their success translates to an open mic and a soapbox from which to preach their hateful rhetoric. If they weren't so successful, what they have to say wouldn't get the same amount of play.

314 "Agreed, sadly, but we must keep up the struggle. Remember your comment previously re Tyrone Woods laser-painting the mortars at Benghazi.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 09, 2013 04:10 PM (aDwsi)"

Agreed - right there with you brother, and no I am not saying give up.

But this is not going to be easy or quick, and we need to start thinking out of the box and winning some of these battles.

I think starting with the young people is going to be key, we need to get to them before they are brainwashed and indoctrinated.  We are going to need to adopt some of the strategies the socialist has so successfully used against the conservative.

315 Just canceled comcast cable. Kept the internet. No alternative.

316 I hope all of your Internet Service Providers ( and your power companies) pass the purity test. Hate to lose the likes of fyscyl cliff from the national dialogue...

317 Have I mentioned what a dumb prick hawking really is today. I hope he chokes on his spit and yes I do mean that

318 This is so obvious.. Half of this country hates these MSM bastards. If we stop watching - problem solved. Where's the complexity? The only thing standing in the way is addiction to the very thing destroying us. You're a bunch of junkies... I know.. I was one too.

319 My resolution is not to remain silent when I hear others spewing  lying  liberal crap whether I know them or not.    Confrontation  baby , its what's   for dinner. 

320 Fyscal clyff.....you are completely driving away anyone who would be amenable to some kind of  boycott.



Would you just shut  the   fuck up for fucks sake.  I'm going to resubscribe to Comcast in your honor.

321 Its time to metaphorically Fix Bayonets, and charge. The fixed bayonet is a terror weapon and has never been a significant cause of casualties.  By going after NBC with the attitude of Fixed Bayonets, we can bring this despicable network to their leftist knees.

322 @287 The Dude Thanks. You are right now that I know such a thing exists.

323 Hey, one more thing: I've noticed of late that Yahoo (which I shamefully admit as my email source) news page has more and more conservative articles posted ... without the MSM requisite snark. I think this new CEO lady might be a moron at heart. Maybe we should all jump off the Google ship and go Yahoo.

324

Freedom of Choice!

 

Freedom of Choice!

 

Isn't this the mantra of the Left?

 

We should have the Freedom to Choose which channels we pay for on Cable.

 

325 it's not the crime it's the cover up except if it's a democrat.

slightly amended for use for the Wash Post

PS whenever I watch a NBC show (Hannibal, that's it) I am so thoroughly annoyed by the Soviet level of greengaywhatever propaganda that I would throw a brick through my tv.  But I don't I just complain a lot.

326

I said this in the other thread (so sorry about the repitition) but it goes right to the heart of Ace's goal.

 

McCain has introduced a bill we should all support, to require cable companies to adopt a la carte channel ordering for consumers.

 

If you want to nail Comcast (NBC) and Disney (ABC), this is tantamount to ordering up a professional hit.  Clean, quiet, and totally deadly.

 

Support the fucking bill!

 

http://read.bi/18waoUy

 

327 I subscribed initially just to support his idea.  I wen to his site once or twice.  He is so sincere, it hurts , but I have a hard time relating .  At a certain point you need a laugh... like Rush does.  I didn't renew with the Blaze..  it's too commercial for me..  auto renewal, lots of drama..

I'm really tiring of being outraged.  Tired of constantly being reminded that far too many of my fellow citizens couldn't care less about politics, religion, context on any given narrative in the news, history, you name it. 

328 24 " So I should watch Letterman?" Or just turn off the TV. I promise it won't kill you. There are these marvelous invention: Sheets of paper with words written on them. The words convey instructions or narratives. Books, I think they are called. And they are wonderful. Check some out. Posted by: mrshad at May 09, 2013 03:24 PM (Xqfwb) I mentioned here once that I stopped watching television back in '08 (except for baseball games, which I mostly stream online now anyway), and I was slightly mocked for it. Some people just love their shows. Anyway, I'll say it again: if you stop, you won't miss it. Good luck.

329 @259 AtC you said it better than I did @141, but I did it in fewer words.

330 Obviously anyone using either Mac or Windows has spent years filling Democrat coffers. When will they stop funding the enemy?

331 This crazy loon has been pointing fingers at the Media as the greatest threat this country faces for quite a long time. If the electorate cannot be informed, how can we have fair elections? I regard all elections in which the media worked hard to support the other side as "tainted." The media (Liberal Democrats from New York and Los Angeles mostly) are the greatest threat facing the nation. They are a bigger threat than terrorism.

332
Howie Carr just played Chris Matthews' "read a newspaper!"

heh

333 >>>> I think this new [yahoo] CEO lady might be a moron at heart.

No.
http://tinyurl.com/bmwkdo5

334 Sombody lookin' for me?  Wassup?

335 Yes.... the Conservative Community must act together... and give up the pleasure of watching things they want, and buying things they want... for the common good...

336 321 I hope all of your Internet Service Providers ( and your power companies) pass the purity test. Hate to lose the likes of fyscyl cliff from the national dialogue... Posted by: Lincolntf at May
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ISP's and power companies (while hardly completely innocent) are not in the *business* of spreading propaganda.

337 Bah...  link--> http://tinyurl.com/c3h4cwf

338 I can't not watch or buy any more than I presently don't watch and buy.  I gave the cable back, canceled the subscriptions and don't buy their products.


I got over having no TV after about a month.  All of you can, too.


However, to really make an impact is going to take something that people don't really want to do.  You have to go after their advertising revenue stream with targeted boycotts.

339 @eleven - Fyscal clyff.....you are completely driving away anyone who would be amenable to some kind of boycott. Would you just shut the fuck up for fucks sake. I'm going to resubscribe to Comcast in your honor. ----- Yeah - I know.. the posters here were almost ready to cancel their NFL on MSM TV addiction... If only I would just "shut the fuck up"... Jack-ass.

340 Yes.... the Conservative Community must act together... and give up the pleasure of watching things they want, and buying things they want... for the common good...

Posted by: /Looks at the Sidebar /facepalm at May 09, 2013 04:20 PM (lZBBB)

quite the conservative ideal, isn't it

341 Do "we" want to beat the propaganda by letting the American People know the truth and get facts, or do we want to win in the voting box? Sorry to say but the left is using propaganda as a tactic in this war, so the right should too. The right needs to lie, smear left wing journalists, and doctor audio tapes and documents. We need to pick some of them and tar them as left wing racists who hate white people. ^ every above tactic was discussed on the journolist or used by the MFM. The actual way for a person to defeat propaganda is to educate himself...our public won't do that, so we need to use these same tactics and stop with this bullshit " but our sides better than them" that only leads to endless losing and sitting around sucking eachothers poles.

342 God you are a relentless sucker of cock.  Go fuck yourself asshole.

Die in a fucking Fire.

343 "Look how much pleasure I'm denying myself! How much pleasure did YOU deny yourself.? Not enough! YOU"RE DOING IT WRONG."

When you strip all EoJ's context, that could be a quote from just about any progg with a "health" or "environment" fetish.  *srednop*

344 335 Obviously anyone using either Mac or Windows has spent years filling Democrat coffers. When will they stop funding the enemy? Posted by: Lincolntf at May
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Really? Do you suppose that Left/Libs (who despise profit) have been gathering in the profits from MS & Apple?

345

We are fucked.


Posted by: BlearyTruth
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"Agreed, sadly, but we must keep up the struggle. Remember your comment previously re Tyrone Woods laser-painting the mortars at Benghazi."

 

Yep.  Fucked and hopelessly outnumbered.

 

 

346 yeah, why would the GOP give favors to the PR Arm of the DNC?  Chop up the channels.

If reagan or Bush the elder were smart, or invested in local affairs rather than saving the world from the commies, they would've let cable owners go al a carte back in the 80's.  Then Mtv and other commie outlets woulda been blocked by then engaged parents.  snipped the porning of america in the bud

347 Completely in agreement. We are in a war and they are invading enemy soldiers out to burn our cities down. Scorched earth policies are needed. What do you think of leaving some avenues open to drop leaflets, and broadcast radio free Europe to those who don't or cant receive this broadcast channel. I still sending out info that will be read. A waste of time?

348

328...Maybe we should all jump off the Google ship and go Yahoo.

 

Even better...use Duck Duck Go.

They don't track you or share your searches with others.

 

349

Yes.... the Conservative Community must act together... and give up the pleasure of watching things they want, and buying things they want... for the common good...

 

That is how wars are won, though.

350 And FoxNews charges less in advertising rates that it's very high ratings would suggest -- because many advertisers don't want to appear on Fox. All those advertisements for gold are because Nike and Honda and Coke won't buy airtime.

351 Referencing a source and a comment is insufficient. Context counts. I want to read the whole article. I really don't care if it's Kos, NYTimes, InfoWars, Blaze, WaPo, or whatever. I want to see it before I believe it or disbelieve it.

352 I'm really tiring of being outraged. Tired of constantly being reminded that far too many of my fellow citizens couldn't care less about politics, religion, context on any given narrative in the news, history, you name it. Posted by: Yip at May 09, 2013 04:18 PM (/jHWN) They would care if the information was presented to them. The Media hyperventilates about perceived Republican offenses ( Valerie Plame affair) and covers up vicious and treasonous abuses by the Mafiosos currently in power. (Thanks to the Media.) The Media have become the propaganda corp for the Socialists, and no longer serve any useful purpose in our Republic. We should work to destroy them in any way possible. We need to cut their financial throats, and stir competition to them.

353 I wouldn't let all the "purity" people upset anyone else Just do what you were going to do anyway and find other ways to work against Pravda Press and the Leftists. For all we know some of these folks could be trolls trying to get up a circular firing squad. I don't care whether people watch cable or MSNBC or not. I just have no interest in doing so. It doesn't make me a better person. It just makes me ME. ;^)

354 and give up the pleasure of watching things they want, and
buying things they want... for the common good...

Freedom is having fewer choices, comrade.

355 Here's a better idea. Instead of collective targets and collective responsibility--y'know, how the Left thinks--assess individual responsibility. Nonviolently, unless they start the shooting. Pick a person. A very public one. RUIN. THEM. And anyone who tries to help that person? Ruin them as well. There are still ways, no violence required.

356 I suppose that Gates, Jobs, and both of their operations are proudly Leftist. It's nor a secret.

357 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 09, 2013 03:57 PM (piMMO)

Which brings up another point; don't just go after execs, also go after the "celebs" on reality shows and the actors in other programming, especially on twitter.  For instance, Blake Shelton is on twitter all the time.

358 Bah... link--> http://tinyurl.com/c3h4cwf Posted by: dan-O
...........
That's Google's CEO.  The other moron was talking about Yahoo. The Yahoo CEO is the one who told all her tele-commuters they had to start showing up for work recently.. yahoooo-ooooo

359 just give the damn Google Glasses for a grand Google, that's what I want for Christmas since I'm having doubts that the consumer version of Rift will be out

360

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 09, 2013 04:19 PM (bb5+k)

 

We are in a Media Catch 22 situation now...

 

Local Media is disappearing... because of the availability of the Large Media outlets...

 

Large media is more cost effective, than many more Local Media... so we end up with the New York / Washington centric news.

 

There was a Murder... with a MACHETE... one block from my house 3 weeks ago, and I didn't know about it for about 1.5 weeks... because it did not make NATIONAL news...

 

But there were thousands of stories about a Gay basketball player... who I had never heard of, will never be in my town, and will never watch.

 

We need to figure out how to make LOCAL news profitable, AND Conservative...

361 ooops.. damn sock

362

Like I'm going to take Life Coaching advice  from some fag who doesn't like football.

 

Have some more penis, fyscal clyff - it's fresh!

363 It seems that very early on there was credible talk of guns/weapons running out of or through the Benghazi consulate. Lots of leaked info on that. That would certainly prove to be a reason for Hillary to lie about her actions concerning security. Wonder why that has not been explored more.

364 >>> That's Google's CEO. The other moron was talking about Yahoo. The Yahoo CEO is the one who told all her tele-commuters they had to start showing up for work recently.. yahoooo-ooooo

No, it is yahoo's current CEO; she used to work at google.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marissa_Mayer

365 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 09, 2013 04:16 PM (9Bj8R)

THANK YOU.

I've been reluctant to dis the disabled. Especially one who has contributed insights to the universe but lately, he's beginning to get on my nerves with some of his pronouncements that are, shall we say, suspect and not relevant to his expertise. They do provide fodder for the very LIV's that he should be disdainful of but apparently he's trying to go out Christoper Hutchins Style.

I think it's time he met his MAKER or began a journey into the REAL FINAL FRONTIER.

366 Can't type, on tablet. I hate this thing sometimes.

367 >>> Like I'm going to take Life Coaching advice from some fag who doesn't like football

LOL

368 Freedom is having fewer choices, comrade.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, ray of sunshine at May 09, 2013 04:24 PM (ZKzrr)

PROGRESS AHOY!!!

369 Obviously anyone using either Mac or Windows has spent years filling Democrat coffers. When will they stop funding the enemy? Posted by: Lincolntf at May 09, 2013 04:19 PM (ZshNr) I have reached the point where I fully support Software and Media piracy. I regard stealing from enemies to be good battle tactics. If you must buy DVDs buy used DVDs. If you must buy new, buy Foreign movies. Your money may still go to support socialists, but they will be foreign socialists, not domestic socialists. Steal anything you can from these bastards, but don't get caught.

370

I'm hating all this anti-purity made up shit. Same argument was used to bludgeon support for fucktard RINOs. So here's the deal: Choose.

 

Its easy for me to be pure in the NBC/Comcast boycott since I don't use any of their products. I'd encourage, though cannot enforce, a boycott upon them for anyone. But the antis want to bitch about that encouragement like I'm forcing somebody.

 

OK, so no GOP  votes EITHER. That will easy as shit to do, too. Let's up the ante a little bit further, if you want. Not fucking caring one way or another anymore.

371 Wonder why that has not been explored more.

 

 

Posted by: mare at May 09, 2013 04:25 PM (A98Xu)

 

 

Oh.... same reason the media did not cover that we Lost an American Plane while dong Obama's Illegal bombing of Libya...

 

Inconvenient facts....

372 And it's not just money that's the issue.

Their success translates to an open mic and a soapbox from which to preach their hateful rhetoric.

If they weren't so successful, what they have to say wouldn't get the same amount of play.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

 

***

 

Exactly. Perhaps if we can put some of them under, MAYBE even get them bought by Conservatives, we will have a chance to start to turn things back.

As long as they are allowed to blast only what they want people to hear 24/7, we are screwed.

373 Yes rigid ideological conformity sucks. OTOH, fuck those corporate entertainganda pricks. I, personally, have had enough from the Hollywood and Leftist media. I just cannot buy a movie ticket unless it is Wreck-it-Ralph or Brave, because I have to. They lectured me about a thousand too many times decades ago.

374 I hope all of your Internet Service Providers ( and your power companies) pass the purity test. Hate to lose the likes of fyscyl cliff from the national dialogue... Posted by: Lincolntf at May 09, 2013 04:16 PM (ZshNr) The whole point, which consistently eludes you, among others, is that entertainment is an option. We don't have to consume ANY, and we are free to choose that which we do consume. It's discretionary spending. And there is plenty of non-union booze available, even here in darkest Canada.

375

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 09, 2013 04:26 PM (bb5+k)

so fight communism with communism, sounds like a smart plan

376 "Agreed, sadly, but we must keep up the struggle. Remember your comment previously re Tyrone Woods laser-painting the mortars at Benghazi."

Yep. Fucked and hopelessly outnumbered.

Posted by: Jaws
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But he didn't give up..., and while it is hardly a silver lining..., none of us had heard of him before, but now we have. He stands as an example for at least some who had no example.

377 Choosing where I spend my money is the same or even similar as discriminating against someone employment wise? No it isn't. Denying Sean Penn or Morgan Freeman the monetary fruit of my labor is not the same in any way asdiscriminating against someone in the job market. Posted by: Tilikum The Killer Assault Whale at May 09, 2013 04:12 PM (uhftQ) The position that some (not ace) are and have advocated here for quite some time is that going to a movie, any movie, is providing financial support to those who hate us and therefore the only conservative thing to do is refuse to do so. Remember, the job of an actor/actress is to act. That is his or her job. The same goes for directors, screenwriters, costume designers, on and on and on. Their jobs are to put together that piece of film. Stating that no conservative should give money to film studios, or, more exactly, refusing to buy the product that such studio is making based solely on political beliefs accepts the same underlying premise as those on the Left who believe that anyone who does not abide by whatever positions should not be employed. The position seeks to deny those who work in that field money based on political beliefs alone. It is the same position. Again, I don't hold to the hard form alternate view. There is no way I will go see a Michael Moore work. I have no problem with the concept of specific boycotts. But that's not the position I am disputing. Every single movie thread or tv thread attracts those who climb up on the soap box of shoot your television you are better off. Not just trolls, I've seen variants of that from those who are Morons in good standing. No. I'm sorry, but no. I disagree.

378 Bah... link--> http://tinyurl.com/c3h4cwf Posted by: dan-O at May 09, 2013 04:20 PM (Yu2MC) Google has become the Stasi for the Socialists. Screw them any way you can.

379 Ambinder seemed very confused about why the administration would possibly lie about the matter, 'I deliberately avoid finding any reason for a coverup, therefore it couldn't have happened.' But the worst thing I've seen today is the AP piece in the morning link dump, calling them 'GOP hearings.' This fucking media is absolutely monstrous.

380 358 I wouldn't let all the "purity" people upset anyone else Just do what you were going to do anyway and find other ways to work against Pravda Press and the Leftists. For all we know some of these folks could be trolls trying to get up a circular firing squad. I don't care whether people watch cable or MSNBC or not. I just have no interest in doing so. It doesn't make me a better person. It just makes me ME. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2013 04:24 PM (kENHJ)

This.

Pravda Press is right.

381 aw, shit, fucking SOCK!

382

I'm hating all this anti-purity made up shit.

 

--------------------

 

If the shoe doesn't fit, then don't wear it.  I'm pretty  sure everyone here was responding to fyscal clyff's dipshit tele-shaming  attempts, when  his real issue is that Mommy wouldn't sign the permission slip  to play football and he had to ride  his bike while wearing a helmet  and reflective vest.

383 I'm sure this has come up before and before I start searching, I wonder if any of you know of a list of  "the good guys" products and services I can support with my spending money?

384 "claim the massacre happened "spontaneously.".... Stupid journalists, mortar attacks are not spontaneous.

385 Like a fucking hammer!  I'm down with the cause.  THAT network has ceased to exist.

386 NBC - Meet The Press.  David Gregory browbeating Wayne LaPierre while waving an illegally-possessed rifle magazine.  The DC DA  waived prosecution because Gregory was a journalist doing journalist things.  David Gregory, you see, is different from you and me.  So yeah, FU NBC.

The best, scariest tactic to hurt ComCast is to get on board the anti-channel bundling movement - legislation that will allow cable/satellite consumers to pick their channels instead of paying for the 200+ crap channels no one wants.

387


Bout time, IMO. Haven't owned a tv for many years. I refuse to give them any money. Why should I? they are attacking me, why in the hell would I give an asshole like David Gregory any money whatsoever?

These fuckers are engaging in USSR level shit. Remember Barry going on TV with Davey and sucking him off? Quid pro quo and stuff?

The Running Man was a prescient flick, and book...

One of the things that I am considering is that the level and intensity of protection is such that it could be a paid for operation.

People who get paid act the way they act.

So are they getting paid? I mean, literally, getting paid?

I'm thinking yes.

You should read Conquests biography of Stalin...not saying Barry is like Joe, but the backstory, chilling yet so human. Leftism is that.

We are who we thought we were.

388 335 Obviously anyone using either Mac or Windows has spent years filling Democrat coffers. Wow, you still pay for software? lol...

389 I hate GOOGLE, but what's a good alternative to it?

390

Ace =Rowdy Roddy Piper.  Am adding "They Live" to the growing list of prophetic documentaries (alongside "Idiocracy.")

 

391
I just peeked back to September 2012 archives and it only took a few hours for the media to make the Benghazi attack about Romney. The media agreed on the following angle:

"How badly did Romney botch response in Libyan attack?"

392 Oh, and on the note of breaking the media, Beck was talking about McCain pushing his cable 'a la carte' bill again. Imagine what it would do for MSNBC if they no longer got subsidized by cable subscriptions...or if parent company NBC got the hit of not getting paid when subscribers don't have to pay for something they don't (or refuse to) watch. And Comcast would hate it, too. McCain (of all people) is actually giving us an opening here...

393 Meanwhile there's a guy in prison for Blasphemy, an American First. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 09, 2013 04:15 PM (yKGCL) I'm getting the hang of it

394 Yes, I still pay for software. I'm not part of the Free Shit Army.

395 Pick a person. A very public one. RUIN. THEM. And anyone who tries to help that person? Ruin them as well. There are still ways, no violence required. Posted by: Brother Cavil, totally not NSA at May 09, 2013 04:24 PM (fMiHM) Great plan. And what Media outlets do we use to "Palanize" them? What 24-7 Channels are we permitted to use to point out what a lying evil sack of shit they are? The Socialists have an "Air" force, all we have are ground troops. We can't perform bombing campaigns without an "Air" force.

396

"Go after the execs...personally. Protest in front of their homes. Protest at their business. Do the sit ins."

 

You go after the execs and the producers who decide content, but you don't protest in front of their homes or businesses - and sit-ins are for hippies.

 

What you do is put together a group of bloggers and freindly right-wing media to continue to hammer on stories and innuendo of the target.

 

Stories of them yelling at a waitress to the point she breaks down in tears.  Stories of them being hypocrits and assholes, cutting into lines, playing the "don't you know who I am" card. 

 

Exaggeration, conflation, outright lying is allowed in this game.  The public hates the media and already views those in power in a bad light, they just need some anecdotal evidence.  Everything published would be in a third person, "this is what I heard" non-committal fashion.

 

The people who shape how the news is portrayed at NBC are committed leftists, but their own ass is of primary importance.  Fry one or two and the rest will fall in line.

397

Give me an alternative and I'll boycott the hell out of something for good reason.   No alternative, no boycott. 

398 I love Brian Williams. He's wry, witty, and very handsome.

399 Republican and Libertarian candidates need to stop allowing the enemy press to be their election debate monitors. That stupidity needs to end now. Contributors need to demand that their candidate commit to not do so - in return for campaign donations. Enough of insane campaign strategies that throw our money away. Speaking of that problem; has anyone found out the current status of the idiot tech group that blew Romney's Election Day strategies? It would be fascinating to know who are their current clients, and whether they include democrats.

400 Yes, I still pay for software. I'm not part of the Free Shit Army.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 09, 2013 04:33 PM (ZshNr)

but it's a great conservative battle tactic to steal people's shit

401 @Empire - "Like I'm going to take Life Coaching advice from some fag who doesn't like football. Have some more penis, fyscal clyff - it's fresh!" --- Unlike you, I actually played sports on the college level and some European Pro ball as well. So - yes - you should be very proud to be a sports ~fan~. Way to go!

402 Don't hate me because I watch television. Hate me because I have more channels than you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies. at May 09, 2013 03:33 PM (VtjlW)

Meh. I don't watch television because I work 12 hour shifts at night and sleep during the day, then on the weekends I get in the car and go places. In short...no time.

James Mattis was also the Marine general who told the Iraqi's "I come in peace. I didnÂ’t bring artillery. But IÂ’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, IÂ’ll kill you all."

403 I hate GOOGLE, but what's a good alternative to it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2013 04:31 PM (kENHJ)

 

Bing is slightly less left.  Microsoft

404 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2013 04:31 PM (kENHJ)

I generally use DuckDuckGo, no tracking, no ads.

405

Had to leave for awhile.  When I came back I started reading some of the comments.  I've come to a conclusion.

 

Besides a few exceptions of televised entertainment and/or news, the media is owned, run, and programed by leftists.   We  donned our sixth sense noticers way to late.  Even if half the  nation's population boycotted the MFM, the other 50% would support it enough for it to survive.

 

The only thing I see that will stop this true juggernaut is an intense burning.  Maybe it'll come, maybe it won't.  The American people, even conservative patriots, have been cowed to inaction, afraid of what the  marxists would say about them.

 

That's why the "red line" will never be drawn.

406 Will a boycott work? It took several years for Air America (remember that?) to die off, and there wasn't even a real boycott...nobody listened, not even the left. MSNBC should have gone off the air years ago (or at least changed format) because of embarrassingly low ratings, but they're still around. Same with CNN, though they have slightly better numbers and slightly less insane air personalities. Etc, etc.

407 We need to figure out how to make LOCAL news profitable, AND Conservative... Posted by: Romeo13 at May 09, 2013 04:25 PM (lZBBB) Among other things. We definitely need to figure out how to hurt THEIR (Democrat Media) income. "Blaze" is about all we've got at the moment. PJTV is also sort of a thing. We need more, and better.

408 Unlike you, I actually played sports on the college level and some European Pro ball as well. So - yes - you should be very proud to be a sports ~fan~. Way to go!

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at May 09, 2013 04:34 PM (Z1/Hr)

 

If you are talking about soccer then you never  played  a  sport.

409 Bing is better just because of the images they display as opposed to Google's little shit-logos. Standard stuff like landscapes, architecture, nature, but at least it never celebrates Communism (openly...)

410 I Recommend looking abroad for other media outlets to put your dollar/time into. There are a TON of legal streaming sports services out there if you do a bit of googling.

411 399 Yes, I still pay for software. I'm not part of the Free Shit Army. Not a very nice way to refer to the open source community, but oh well.

412 We need to figure out how to make LOCAL news profitable, AND Conservative...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 09, 2013 04:25 PM (lZBBB)

so replace one ideology slant with another

413 Americans for Choice Unite!   Fight Big Bundle!

414 Dump Comcast by switching to U verse or the equivalent.

415 I think it's time he met his MAKER or began a journey into the REAL FINAL FRONTIER. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 09, 2013 04:25 PM (yKGCL) I assume you are referring to Steven Hawking? Fuck him sideways with a rusty tractor. Sick of hearing his opinion, even on physics.

416   Exaggeration, conflation, outright lying is allowed in this game. The public hates the media and already views those in power in a bad light, they just need some anecdotal evidence. Everything published would be in a third person, "this is what I heard" non-committal fashion.  The people who shape how the news is portrayed at NBC are committed leftists, but their own ass is of primary importance. Fry one or two and the rest will fall in line. 

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 04:33 PM (u2a4R)


I'm not sure I want to take advice or moral standards from a person who thinks pulling the plug on grandma is a sacred duty.   

417 Wow, you still pay for software? lol...

 

Posted by: at May 09, 2013 04:31 PM (Vgn84)

 

Good point.  Even the chicoms won't pay a nickel to support our lib-loving tech giants.  But you lot, you can't wait to buy the next iGadget.  Traitors!!!!!

418 Unlike you, I actually played sports on the college level and some European Pro ball as well. So - yes - you should be very proud to be a sports ~fan~. Way to go!

 

Posted by: fyscyl clyff at May 09, 2013 04:34 PM (Z1/Hr)

 

Suuuuuuuurrrrre you did.  Look how fucking chastened  I am.

 

You played "sports," huh?  Did you get a "sports" scholarship?  Get drafted  to a professional "sports" team?

 

What  a fucking limpdick.

419 I cancelled ComCast because I went ballistic when I discovered they were going to raise MY rates on internet access by 10 bucks a month to provide discounts to so-called 'poor' people. As part of the agreement that permitted the NBC merger to be permitted. I don't know about anyone else but to me internet access is one of the few luxuries I permit myself. It's not a fucking necessity. Go to the fucking library after you're done shopping with your g-d EBT card deadbeat. You can't even merge with another company in this country without the socialists making a demand and the weak of spine acquiescing -- or maybe they thought it was a totally legitimate request by a government too fucking big for its own good. All I know is you can rip my fiber optic connection from my cold dead hands. Comcast is 1950's technology. A fucking Dinosaur.

420 Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 09, 2013 04:26 PM (bb5+k) so fight communism with communism, sounds like a smart plan Posted by: The Dude at May 09, 2013 04:28 PM (vJdyz) Fire with Fire. They steal, we better steal as well. Alternative is to die with principles.

421

alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies

Thanks for the clarification. FTR, I am not a purist and I will not bash others for seeing a movie with Tim Robinson. I might make a funny face when you tell me tho.  

I was not aware of McCain's bill, but we should be spreading this around the interwebz and anywhere else we can.

422 I cancelled ComCast because I went ballistic when I discovered they were going to raise MY rates on internet access by 10 bucks a month to provide discounts to so-called 'poor' people. As part of the agreement that permitted the NBC merger to be permitted. I don't know about anyone else but to me internet access is one of the few luxuries I permit myself. It's not a fucking necessity. Go to the fucking library after you're done shopping with your g-d EBT card deadbeat. *** You'll be thrilled to know that phase 2 of the Obamaphone plan is to provide free high-speed internet.

423 also, when the fuck are you gonna release the new Fuelband Nike, I'm waitng for that to finally buy one

424 I "played sports" in high school, college ( Rugby), and "overseas " ( Army flag football, softball, basketball, floor hockey) and I'm probably the shittiest athlete who ever dared to call himself an athlete that you'll ever meet. Color me unimpressed by FC's purported sporting feats.

425 Conservatives are shocked to discover that the truth no longer matters and they have no idea what to do about it.
This exactly right and I don't think they will figure it out.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 09, 2013 03:37 PM (R8hU

Who is this "they" and why don't you count yourself among them?

426

I'm not sure I want to take advice or moral standards from a person who thinks pulling the plug on grandma is a sacred duty.

 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 09, 2013 04:38 PM (v3pYe)

 

You can't be conservative if you believe that taxpayers should be tapped for unlimited charges for every procedure for everyone, regardless of their age or health.

 

Governing by blank check will make you a lot of friends, but it's no way to run a country.

427 425 Alternative is to die with principles. And now, the subtle distinctions between LiB, WiB, and my potential new favorite - MiB...now those distinctions slowly start to materialize. Because the forecast...well, the forecast calls for very very hot temperatures.

428 Losers like NBC make their money with cable deals, from what I hear. Ad revenue is nothing.

So when the Maverick talks about unbundling cable, I get a tingle up my leg. However, the Mav has gravely disappointed me in the past. Maybe he is trying to redeem his horrible campaign which gave us TFG?

BTW it looks like that White Hispanic George Zimmerman in the Anka tape. Did Anka's tirade set him off and cause him to go on his murderous rampage?

429 The best, scariest tactic to hurt ComCast is to get on board the anti-channel bundling movement - legislation that will allow cable/satellite consumers to pick their channels instead of paying for the 200+ crap channels no one wants. Posted by: mrp at May 09, 2013 04:30 PM (HjPtV) Absolutely. Saw over at Instapundit that John McCain is leading the effort. We should support it anyway. We need ANYTHING we can find to cut their financial throats.

430 Peoples: keep in mind who watches the alphabet channels. It is my mother-in-law, may God bless her and may she someday share her cookie baking skillz with me instead of giving me screwed up recipes. She is in her 80's. Seriously, who do you know who watches this crap? I have had my own personal boycott since at least 2001 and watch the evil empire of FOX.

Due to sheer demographics and death of elderly viewers, these networks will "die on the vine as the low hanging fruits of stupidity." Newspapers will have the same fate....as they all are just little parrot droppings from the NYT. This is the generation who, if not computer savvy, like my own Mama, they take the alphabet soup networks and newspapers as truth, as Brian Williams would not lie! The gubment would not lie!

The rest? Bah, they get their news from Facebook and propaganda from liberal friends (or so my adult sons complain). Or, heaven help me, NPR (one son, who votes conservative, listens to that swill thanks to a former girlfriend whose name is never mentioned).

So I don't need to boycott anything except online ads via links (which I do send via email) and going bananas twice a year on WaPo. Regarding movies: I will still see whatever I choose, but considering I had no idea what was going on with the Academy Awards this year, it is also part of my boycott, I guess! I check Drudge to see if the world has ended every morning after reading my emails. I check the Daily Mail for garbage to fill my brain with trivia, as I also have no idea who 90% of the people are. And I check here and other conservative sites for news.

431 but it's a great conservative battle tactic to steal people's shit
Posted by: The Dude
----------

Ah. You make a point. The theft isn't materially driven  , it is ideologically driven. Well..., that's a bit of an ethical challenge for a conservative. On the other hand, when the barbarians are inside the gates, questions 'fighting fair' don't carry much weight.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer pondered the issue at length, when approached with the plot to assassinate Hitler. His painful conclusion was that it was better to DO evil, than to BE evil, and thus he supported the effort.

432

"James Mattis was also the Marine general who told the Iraqi's "I come in peace. I didnÂ’t bring artillery. But IÂ’m pleading with you,
with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, IÂ’ll kill you all."

 

Marine generals  in war zones and sheep-dipped SEALs in contact with several hundred AQ  have the unfortunate luxury of saying things like that. 

 

We currently do not. 

 

This leaves  a slate of weak-sauce bullshit like boycotts  to throw at the problem.   

433 I was not aware of McCain's bill, but we should be spreading this around the interwebz and anywhere else we can. Posted by: Tilikum The Killer Assault Whale at May 09, 2013 04:40 PM (uhftQ) I would support an "a la carte" cable law, IF it also applied to satellite TV service. Cable doesn't reach me here. If I could get satellite TV a la carte, I might even consider doing that. Speed Channel, maybe History Channel, Fox News, and Sun News (Canada). And precious little else. But I'd be wary of any bill sponsored by McCain.

434 Wow, you still pay for software? lol... Posted by: at May 09, 2013 04:31 PM (Vgn84) THIS ! Do not pay these people. Beg borrow or Steal, but don't finance our enemies.

435 I would beg to differ that the internet is a luxury.

Perhaps as little as 5 years ago it might have been said but now?

It's become almost impossible to do some things without at least an email address and having internet access allows one to be able to spend less money overall for the same services/goods.

I could foresee very soon a legal challenge that it is a luxury and should therefore be considered like land line phones became in the early part of the 20th century.

As to going to the library for access, that isn't as easy or ubiquitous as you may think, in certain areas. I'm not necessarily arguing that the "poor" should be subsidized but perhaps the big cable and isp companies should be tightened up a bit over their rates.

436 You can't be conservative if you believe that taxpayers should be tapped for unlimited charges for every procedure for everyone, regardless of their age or health.  Governing by blank check will make you a lot of friends, but it's no way to run a country. 

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 04:43 PM (u2a4R)


Funny, I don't govern by blank check, nor do I think taxpayers need to pay for every procedure for everyone.   And I still don't have to pull the plug on grandma, nor do I need a jwest to to do it for me.  

437 I hate GOOGLE, but what's a good alternative to it? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 09, 2013 04:31 PM (kENHJ) I have found none as good, but there are others which work. "StartPage" even uses google, but hides IP information from Google so you don't have to worry about them tracking you.

438 439 THIS ! Do not pay these people. Beg borrow or Steal, but don't finance our enemies. There *are* alternatives. Yep. Thanks for seeing my *real* point.

439 "399 Yes, I still pay for software. I'm not part of the Free Shit Army.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 09, 2013 04:33 PM (ZshNr)"

The "free shit army" is people who want free shit that given to them after it is taken from the producers by force.  They want free shit the state steals and then gives to them.

Free software is nothing of the sort; this is software that the producers provide for free because they want to, and in many cases it is flat out better software.  You need feel no guilt in using OSS products.

I've used Linux and other OSS solutions for over a decade and frankly can't stand any Microsoft product.  Microsoft creates software that is supposed to be pretty and painless but in the end works like Time magazine - lowest common denominator, but when you want to do something advanced or look for high reliability they fail completely.

Don't let the free shit army keep you from OSS, that would be  a mistake.

Try out Linux Mint, you may well be surprised, and no one stole it from the producers.

440 Imagine what it would do for MSNBC if they no longer got subsidized by cable subscriptions...or if parent company NBC got the hit of not getting paid when subscribers don't have to pay for something they don't (or refuse to) watch. And Comcast would hate it, too. McCain (of all people) is actually giving us an opening here... Posted by: zsasz at May 09, 2013 04:32 PM (MMC8r) Agreed, and we should (Ugh) support him on this.

441   As to going to the library for access, that isn't as easy or ubiquitous as you may think, in certain areas. I'm not necessarily arguing that the "poor" should be subsidized but perhaps the big cable and isp companies should be tightened up a bit over their rates. 

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 09, 2013 04:46 PM (yKGCL)


Internet's a frickin' luxury.  You might as well subsidize their cable or satellite TV.      

442 "We have to hang Admiral NBC. We have to get Levin, Limbaugh, everyone on this."

They both seem to be too busy praising Amnesty Admiral Rubio.

443 442 I hate GOOGLE, but what's a good alternative to it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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I switched to Bing a good while back. It isn't that I love MS the more, just Google the less...

444 "Speed Channel, maybe History Aliens! Channel, Fox News, and Sun News (Canada).

FIFY

445 But I'd be wary of any bill sponsored by McCain.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

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I should have added: support it after you've vetted it carefully.

446 "But I'd be wary of any bill sponsored by McCain."

I agree.  This legislation should begin in the House of Representatives.

447 Yes, I still pay for software. I'm not part of the Free Shit Army. Posted by: Lincolntf at May 09, 2013 04:33 PM (ZshNr) I will note the usage of the word "Army." An "Army" hurts it's enemies. We need to start acting like an "Army". As Glenn Reynolds might say "An Army of Davids."

448 For the record: Adm John Byng was shot on the quarterdeck, not hanged as an ordinary seaman, although some had advocated exactly that. He should not be confused with his father, Adm George Byng, who was very successful, and who in turn, as Viscount Torrington, is easily confused with the earlier Earl Torrington (Arthur Herbert), a 17th C admiral.

On the main point, yes, it's more than time. Please give us a list of subsidiaries.

449 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 09, 2013 04:46 PM (yKGCL)  

Internet's a frickin' luxury. You might as well subsidize their cable or satellite TV. 
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 09, 2013 04:48 PM (oY6Yp)


Whoops.  Sorry, knee-jerked and read in an extra "not".  

450 But I'd be wary of any bill sponsored by McCain. My friends, you don't have to be afraid of any bill I sponsor. I assure you that when I reach across the aisle, in the spirit of bipartisanship, and reach an agreement with 2,000 pages of fine print that @ss rapes you without lube, you'll ask for more, harder and faster.

451 I'm talking about people stealing software because they've convinced themselves that it's some sort of honorable Civil Disobedience. Open source, I have no beef with that.

452 How about "hanging" one of the Gang of Eight? I suggest the gangs chief pusher, faceman and spokesmouth. Of course we would have to pry Limbaugh and Levin off his leg first.

453 Remember, the benefit of online streaming right now is that the providers can get nowhere close to the same amount of ad revenue, especially the day(s) after original airing of a show/game that they can watching it via cable or satellite. If you can't go cold turkey, the above is the way to still hit them in the pocket book.

454 Exaggeration, conflation, outright lying is allowed in this game. The public hates the media and already views those in power in a bad light, they just need some anecdotal evidence. Everything published would be in a third person, "this is what I heard" non-committal fashion. The people who shape how the news is portrayed at NBC are committed leftists, but their own ass is of primary importance. Fry one or two and the rest will fall in line. Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 04:33 PM (u2a4R) Alinsky tactics work. It's past time we should have been biting and punching them in the nads.

455

Funny, I don't govern by blank check, nor do I think taxpayers need to pay for every procedure for everyone. And I still don't have to pull the plug on grandma, nor do I need a jwest to to do it for me.

 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 09, 2013 04:47 PM (oY6Yp)

 

Well then, you're quite a good person.  However, I'm certain that after you've bankrupted your family keeping grandma in pain for a few more days, you'll be the loud one screaming for government to pick up the tab for a more tubes shoved up every orafice she has.

 

Not that it's a bad thing to want your grandma to live forever, but if comes at the cost of you and a profit-motivated healthcare system torturing her to ease your mind that you've done everything possible, I'd say you might want to rethink your position.

456 but it's a great conservative battle tactic to steal people's shit Posted by: The Dude at May 09, 2013 04:34 PM (vJdyz) A Bon chat, bon rat.

457 "I would support an "a la carte" cable law, IF it also applied to satellite TV service. Cable doesn't reach me here. If I could get satellite TV a la carte, I might even consider doing that. Speed Channel, maybe History Channel, Fox News, and Sun News (Canada). And precious little else.


But I'd be wary of any bill sponsored by McCain.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2013 04:45 PM (fNpC1)"

"an "a la carte" cable law"  Huh?  Why do we need a law?  If a man wants to sell you a bundled cable deal at a price you are free to accept the deal or not.  Why does the state need to interfere in this transaction?

Sorry, I reject this state control of the market.

458 Alinsky tactics work. It's past time we should have been biting and punching them in the nads.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp

***

 

I will punch and kick but....biting? Pass.

459 Not that it's a bad thing to want your grandma to live forever, but if comes at the cost of you and a profit-motivated healthcare system torturing her to ease your mind that you've done everything possible, I'd say you might want to rethink your position. Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 04:53 PM (u2a4R) They euthanize people in many European countries. It sucks period. We shouldn't be going down that road.

460 What ever happened to "Operation Pipewrench?"

461 >>>.I've used Linux and other OSS solutions for over a decade and frankly can't stand any Microsoft product. Microsoft creates software that is supposed to be pretty and painless but in the end works like Time magazine - lowest common denominator, but when you want to do something advanced or look for high reliability they fail completely.

I mostly agree, with the exception of Office, which is actually very powerful and reliable. 

>>> Don't let the free shit army keep you from OSS, that would be a mistake.Try out Linux Mint, you may well be surprised, and no one stole it from the producers.

Linux is almost there as a viable replacement for Windows (for everyday users I mean), but not quite there.  Its lack of support for Flash is a big one. 

462 Sorry, I reject this state control of the market.

Posted by: BlearyTruth at May 09, 2013 04:53 PM (sYLzD)

The state already controls the market.

In so much of communications and media, especially in industries like ISPs, there are monopolies or cartels, and they are often done with the blessing of gov't.

463 Posted by: BlearyTruth at May 09, 2013 04:53 PM (sYLzD)

The "State" is already interfering in that market.

What should be advocated is the complete privatization of cable and internet access.

Let the market shake out the losers and winners.

the only regulations should be for those areas that have limited population and thus should have some means of being subsidized for their access. Maybe.

464 ""an "a la carte" cable law" Huh? Why do we need a law? If a man wants to sell you a bundled cable deal at a price you are free to accept the deal or not. Why does the state need to interfere in this transaction?Sorry, I reject this state control of the market."

Yeah, me too.

465 They euthanize people in many European countries. It sucks period. We shouldn't be going down that road.

 

Posted by: Nate at May 09, 2013 04:54 PM (i3OIF)

 

Euthanizing is only something we consider for Heather's mother.

 

What the conversation really is about is limiting the heroic, immediate life saving procedures that are shown statistically to make little if any difference in the length of time the patient stays alive.

466 469 ""an "a la carte" cable law" Huh? Why do we need a law? If a man wants to sell you a bundled cable deal at a price you are free to accept the deal or not. Why does the state need to interfere in this transaction?Sorry, I reject this state control of the market." Yeah, me too. Posted by: Bell Telephone at May 09, 2013 04:57 PM (HjPtV) In some local areas though, some companies are said to have exclusivity to an area. That is the aspect that needs to end if true.

467 Because the forecast...well, the forecast calls for very very hot temperatures. Posted by: at May 09, 2013 04:44 PM (Vgn84) I'm in the "Make it burn" category, and have been since that rigged election back in November. I say rigged, because if the media were just neutral, Obama would have been a greasy spot.

468 Linux is almost there as a viable replacement for Windows (for everyday users I mean), but not quite there. Its lack of support for Flash is a big one. Huh? I used Ubuntu for years and never had an issue with Flash. It was always nagging me to upgrade. Open Office apps vs. Microsoft shit that now runs advertisements on the right side of the screen unless I send them more money for Word? For Word? A fucking word processing program from like the mid 80's? WTF is wrong with those people?

469 My linux uses flash. But I think its Adobe ending support for linux, not the other way around.

470 Open Office apps vs. Microsoft shit that now runs advertisements on the right side of the screen unless I send them more money for Word? For Word? A fucking word processing program from like the mid 80's? WTF is wrong with those people? Posted by: Regular Moron at May 09, 2013 04:58 PM (U2UQk) Office 2013 runs circles around Open Office IMPO at the moment.

471 >>> Huh? I used Ubuntu for years and never had an issue with Flash. It was always nagging me to upgrade.

Adobe stopped supporting linux

472   Well then, you're quite a good person. However, I'm certain that after you've bankrupted your family keeping grandma in pain for a few more days, you'll be the loud one screaming for government to pick up the tab for a more tubes shoved up every orafice she has. 

Not that it's a bad thing to want your grandma to live forever, but if comes at the cost of you and a profit-motivated healthcare system torturing her to ease your mind that you've done everything possible, I'd say you might want to rethink your position. 

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 04:53 PM (u2a4R)


I'm glad you know my grandma so well that you already know how to handle her end of life situation for me, seeing as how I will undoubtedly revert to my inner liberal self the moment my personal finances are at stake.  

But since you're so eager to to talk out of your rear about circumstances you simply don't know, I'm afraid your credibility is still pegged at 0.   You're in no position to judge other's conservatism when your view of "conservativism" is "jwest runs the show for the Greater Good".   

473 In some local areas though, some companies are said to have exclusivity to an area. That is the aspect that needs to end if true.

Posted by: Nate at May 09, 2013 04:58 PM (i3OIF)

 

  Yep, here its Charter cable or satellite, too far away to get att uverse, but I can get their phone service.

474 >>> But I think its Adobe ending support for linux, not the other way around

Well, that's fine, but the end result is the same: flash isn't supported for linux

475 Euthanizing is only something we consider for Heather's mother. 

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 04:58 PM (u2a4R)


Go fuck yourself in the ass with EoJ's dick.   And when you're done, open wide and suck it clean.   

476 I cancelled my Comcast service because I refused to give my money to NBC even indirectly. So folks, I recommend you do as I did and switch from Comcast to Verizon or Direct TV or anything but Comcast.

477 What the conversation really is about is limiting the heroic, immediate life saving procedures that are shown statistically to make little if any difference in the length of time the patient stays alive. 

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 04:58 PM (u2a4R)


Jwest will make end of life choices for you, because he knows what's best.    That's conservatism - doing what jwest thinks is in society's greater good.  

478

But since you're so eager to to talk out of your rear about circumstances you simply don't know, I'm afraid your credibility is still pegged at 0. You're in no position to judge other's conservatism when your view of "conservativism" is "jwest runs the show for the Greater Good".

 

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 09, 2013 05:01 PM (v3pYe)

 

When you're in a situation like this, why not just admit that you never thought the issue through and, although you would do everything possible to help your grandma, you realize now that the country can't afford to pay for every procedure for every person.

 

From there, you would have a fresh start and be able to discuss the future of healthcare from a rational position.

 

 

479 I cancelled my Comcast service because I refused to give my money toNBC even indirectly. So folks, I recommend you do as I did andswitch from Comcast to Verizon or Direct TV or anything but Comcast.

Posted by: AJ Lynch at May 09, 2013 05:03 PM (ASPsd)

but you're still giving them money because they get a cut of your monthly bill

480 "Linux is almost there as a viable replacement for Windows (for everyday users I mean), but not quite there. Its lack of support for Flash is a big one.

Posted by: dan-O at May 09, 2013 04:54 PM (Yu2MC)"

Yes there are gaps, but for what I do - and I do write a lot of documents Open Office (or whatever they are calling it lately) works very well.  Where MS is a working solution then go ahead and use it, nothing wrong with that.  I just find there are very few instances this applies to me.

Flash?  That's what no script is for.  Trust me, pages load faster, you avoid all the intrusive ads, save on bandwidth...

And remember, the goal of Linux is not to be a MS replacement - it's goal is to be a quality, reliable and functional OS, which it is.

Everything's a trade off.

481   When you're in a situation like this, why not just admit that you never thought the issue through and, although you would do everything possible to help your grandma, you realize now that the country can't afford to pay for every procedure for every person. 

From there, you would have a fresh start and be able to discuss the future of healthcare from a rational position. 

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 05:05 PM (u2a4R)


Real conservative there, to use a socialist healthcare system to administer healthcare.   

482 Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 05:05 PM (u2a4R) Dude, I would leave this issue alone. Nothing good will come of interjecting yourself in someone else's family matter. I feel for them.

483 @Empire - "Unlike you, I actually played sports on the college level and some European Pro ball as well. So - yes - you should be very proud to be a sports ~fan~. Way to go! Posted by: fyscyl clyff at May 09, 2013 04:34 PM (Z1/Hr) Suuuuuuuurrrrre you did. Look how fucking chastened I am. You played "sports," huh? Did you get a "sports" scholarship? Get drafted to a professional "sports" team? What a fucking limpdick." ---- Obviously I could say anything I want about who / what I am. No real point in doing that. I never believe anyone online either.. But my point - that conservatives should cancel their Cable subscription instead of funding the propaganda arm of the left-wing has once again met with violence (verbal) and defensiveness. I really only comment when Ace has a thread like this - because frankly none of the other shit matters unless we fix the MSM problem. Benghazi will be washed away like everything else. You know it's true - but you'll defend your right to watch the NFL on MSM TV to the day the commies end football altogether. Brilliant.

484 >>> Flash? That's what no script is for. Trust me, pages load faster, you avoid all the intrusive ads, save on bandwidth...And remember, the goal of Linux is not to be a MS replacement - it's goal is to be a quality, reliable and functional OS, which it is.

Don't get me wrong, I love linux and it has come a heck of a long way in the last 15 years I have been using it. 

But the goal of a distro like Ubuntu *is* to be a MS replacement.  It is meant to be able to be used for everyday tasks--like browsing the internet.  And it sucks, but proprietary Adobe Flash is an important component of the internet. 

485 I agree 100% but would take it a step further.

What we need is a website that will list the major advertisers for NBC and the other networks as well as NYT, WaPo and so on.

We would then be able to voice our displeasure by telling them we will not buy from them.

Complaining to the papers and networks does nothing. We are not the customers. We are the product. We are what they sell to their customers, the advertisers.

We need to tell the advertisers that we will not be sold to them anymore.

John Henry

486 Pick a person. A very public one.

RUIN. THEM.

And anyone who tries to help that person? Ruin them as well.

There are still ways, no violence required.

THIS.

We could pool funds and hire about 20 private detectives to dig up as much humiliating (and REAL, verifiable) crap on one of these asshats as possible.  DIG THROUGH THEIR LIVES like they do to one of ours.  MAKE AN EXAMPLE of the fucker.  Do it again to someone else until they get the hint.

487   I feel for them. 

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 09, 2013 05:08 PM (bb5+k)


Don't need to feel for me.   All grandparents are long gone.   

But it does illustrate how jwest is a little too eager to jump into everyone's family situation and scream, "SAVE MONEY! PULL THE PLUG NOW NOW NOW."  

That's totally what conservatism is all about.

488

"Dude, I would leave this issue alone. Nothing good will come of interjecting yourself in someone else's family matter. "

 

I would never dream of interjecting myself or any of my positions into someone else's family matter. 

 

My position is that if someone wants to pay for any procedure, even if he's giving grandma a heart-lung transplant at age 95, I say go for it.  Spend your money on whatever makes you happy. 

 

However, I draw the line when this same person wants to increase my taxes in order to pay the $850,000 charge for that procedure in the hope that grandma will live a few more days.

 

That's not a conservative position.

489 #benghosnell - do not enable the business model of those who exist to destroy everything you hold dear. No cooperation with the MFM. Every time they asked a loaded question, the answer should be: benghosnell

490 As to Comcast -- if you don't have FIOS penetration in your neighborhood, yet -- it might not be a bad idea to search the web for a Verizon site that will tell you whether you are yet fiber optic wired. Have your neighbors on the street do the same search. Since I've done my share of code writing in my life, I have a very strong suspicion that a neighborhood being interested in fiber might just translate to a neighborhood being wired with fiber optic. I have it -- and it's somewhere between the greatest sex you ever had or the greatest meal you ever ate.

491 One problem with boycotting Google is Google is Android.

492 131
I'm looking forward to the day when Matt Lauer is on the streets of Manhattan with a cup begging for change.

And I look forward to not hearing from Tingles Matthews and that Rachel Maddow fellow.

Then they can join up with Keith O and Soledad OB and mosey on over to Al Jezzera.

493 How about a barrage of spurious lawsuits?

494 "But the goal of a distro like Ubuntu *is* to be a MS replacement. It is meant to be able to be used for everyday tasks--like browsing the internet. And it sucks, but proprietary Adobe Flash is an important component of the internet.

Posted by: dan-O at May 09, 2013 05:09 PM (Yu2MC)"

Yes, Ubuntu is geared at replacing MS and I wouldn't say it sucks, and as others have noted the flash component is not really a Linux support thing, talk to Adobe about that.  But no, it's not perfect.  Look if what you want is flash then MS is your tool, use it and be happy.  -But hey if you haven't given Mint a spin, give it a shot, I stopped using Ubuntu a long time ago for a lot of reasons.

My real point if you look back was that OSS has nothing to do with the Free Shit army, which is accurate.

Oh and Bill Gates is a big socialist drone, so there is that.

495
What we need is a website that will list the major advertisers for NBC and the other networks as well as NYT, WaPo and so on.

I'm completely able and willing to do this.  Hell, I'd pay for the hosting myself even.  I would just want help with compiling the list of advertisers.

496 What the conversation really is about is limiting the heroic, immediate life saving procedures that are shown statistically to make little if any difference in the length of time the patient stays alive.

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 04:58 PM (u2a4R)

And who pray tell makes those evaluations? Who decides what difference it makes. Who decides what's Heroic?

Maybe a DEATH PANEL? Oh they'll name it something cute or obfuscating but the purpose will be exactly as you describe. And for one purpose only: political control of the public weal.

497 Nothing would make me happier than to see NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN's knees buckle and crumple to a lame heap as America continuously jumps on their fucking faces shouting "This is for what you have done to my country!"

498 Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 05:13 PM (u2a4R) I apparently came into the thread too late to get a good grasp of this discussion. From what I saw, it looked as though you were referring to a specific person and urging their family to save money. Now that I understand it is a hypothetical, that puts a different light on it. We must be able to discuss ideas, even unpleasant ones.

499 We fight back like Mensheviks.

500 I stopped watching NBC when they pulled Chuck off the air . I'm in .

501 I'm reasonably certain most of the universe's word processing requirements were more than adequately met with WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS. I love how users sometimes need the latest and greatest software technology from Microsoft (which then requires the latest video card from Nvidia, and the latest monitor from NEC, and the latest...)...and then they spit out block letters in courier 12 all day. Those people are funny. They'd have an aneurysm if they knew how much faster WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS would get them through their workday.

502 We fight back like Mensheviks. Posted by: gracepmc at May 09, 2013 05:29 PM (rznx3) And with the same results, so far.

503 Posted by: Romeo13 at May 09, 2013 04:25 PM (lZBBB)

Local TV tends to be much less biased in terms of news selection as well, mostly because it's harder to hide something everyone knows about. But still, I saw WGN Chicago do a pretty nice series of stories about corruption and government wasting money recently. WGN isn't the conglomerate ABCNBCCBS is plus it's local...so better coverage.

When I have alternatives to choose between, I pick the one that doesn't insult me and make it a point to tell them why I choose their business. We have two local sports radio stations in town. ESPN1000 and 670 the Score. You'd think the ESPN affiliate would be heavily progressive, but it really isn't. There's some of the typical ESPN soft sensationalism, but both major local shows even have a Republican and Democrat...so it's balanced and doesn't get political usually. One guy even supported Romney openly.

The Score, meanwhile, doesn't market itself as media affiliated...but they're owned by CBS. And the afternoon show, Boers and Bernstein, is the most childishly immature show on radio and incredibly liberal(BIRM). Mostly with social issues though, they openly mock Christian athletes. I remember they interviewed Adam Dunn and told him they "finally found a white guy from texas they like". Just terrible. And the producer of the morning show once compared people who think Jay Cutler wasn't actually injured to...the Tea Party. Because they're both dumb..which is bad but it's even worse because the better comparison is to Trutherism. I notice that a lot about terrible sports journalists. The political analogies are so forced and terrible, just "this bad thing" is like "this other bad thing" even without anything remotely similar to compare.

 TL;DR I support the ESPN station because it respects it's audience and the other station can fuck off.

504 Dropping cable is preaching to the converted. Forcing Big Media to spend serious coin responding to consumer demands - from consumers across the political spectrum - puts the media CEOs in position where they will have to make hard decisions as to what stays, what goes, and what changes.

And isn't this situation a microcosm of what we are facing as a country? Government and big corporations colluding to soak the middle class via a massive growth in regulations, fees, and government coercion? We need free markets for a free people if we want to live in a time of hope and prosperity.

505 We must be able to discuss ideas, even unpleasant ones.

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 09, 2013 05:26 PM (bb5+k)

 

It's getting to the point where you can discuss any idea you want here...

 

As long as it conforms to the mob. 

 

If you suggest that the horse thief should get a trial before he's hung, you might end up swinging with him.

506 If the Republicans were smart they would starting pushing legislation to allow for consumer choice in channel selection. 1. It is little guy v. Comcast; 2. it is a possible hypocrisy charge against opponents [choice, anti-corp, etc] and 3. if you can get it passed, it will potentially reduce the pool of money used to fund the leftie meme creators like MSNBC because no more bundling.

507 The problem with Mr. Ambinder is his questionable integrity. It's not that he is dishonest, it's that he is merely human, thus every time he truly needs to question himself, he flinches. His integrity, moral and intellectual, seemingly cannot be counted on to prevail if adhering to it will hurt his preferred cause, and thus his integrity cannot be trusted as proof against all tests. And that is the only definition of integrity that matters. Mr. Ambinder may pride himself on Ivy League intellect, yet to me it is clear that while Harvard certainly builds self-regard amongst its graduates, I am less sure that it builds character of the old adamantine style. Mr. Ambinder is just one more case-study, typical among his class of those who would be guardian-kings.

508 Jwest wants to kill anyone with cancer. After all it's just their bodies way of telling them it time to die. So we should provide no treatment at all. Since they want to die.

509 Also, I haven't paid for music or movies in the last 3 years. Because FUCK THEM that's why.

510 "They no longer even care if conservatives watch. They are trying to be a niche liberal network. As long as the left and LIV watch....they are good.

They no longer want us or our money.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 09, 2013 05:24 PM (OWjjx)

Sorta.  They want their cut of our cable/satellite subscription fees.

511

515 "Jwest wants to kill anyone with cancer."

 

Posted by: Buzzion at May 09, 2013 05:32 PM (2zJXL)

 

I don't remember the exact wording of that comment.  Did I want to shoot them or was there a more cost effective method?

512 512 If you suggest that the horse thief should get a trial before he's hung, you might end up swinging with him. This occasionally, albeit rarely, prevents me from agreeing with you wholeheartedly...lol. What you say is true. Medicare never should have been in a position to approve a $90,000 prostate treatment...that prolongs patients lives 3-6 months. That ain't no safety net, it's blatant theft of years from the next generation to fund a few shitty months of the last one. If someone wants to exhaust every penny they ever made to literally live 4 more seconds? That's their right in my book. Just don't come knocking on Uncle Sugar's door, because he never should have been on the hook for that shit to begin with.

513

I read only briefly about a new bill to break up cable companies as we know them so that consumers can purchase only the stations that they want instead of having to buy "Whole Packages".

I haven't read the bill but am leary as Mc Cain is for it.  Otherwise in theory I love the idea.

 

There are only 5 channels I want and the rest can go to hell.

 

I love the Anka video - never gets old.

514 512 We must be able to discuss ideas, even unpleasant ones. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 09, 2013 05:26 PM (bb5+k) It's getting to the point where you can discuss any idea you want here... As long as it conforms to the mob. If you suggest that the horse thief should get a trial before he's hung, you might end up swinging with him. Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 05:30 PM (u2a4R) Shorter jwest. "Everybody has realize that I am a pathetic asshole so I am going to be like so many other trolls and just claim this place is an echo chamber against me. Wah wah wah bitch bitch bitch. "

515 Meh. IDK if it's broken clock syndrome, but JWests's point remains completely and totally valid. Pick a different messenger if he's the problem. And until we start having *that exact conversation*, ain't nobody fixing jack shit about anything to do with healthcare in this country. Not when the largest volume buyer of healthcare services on the planet is named CMS.

516 Jwest wants to kill anyone with cancer. After all it's just their bodies way of telling them it time to die. So we should provide no treatment at all. Since they want to die. Posted by: Buzzion at May 09, 2013 05:32 PM (2zJXL) I may be wrong, but I suspect you are misrepresenting his position. That seems too extreme to be believable.

517

"If someone wants to exhaust every penny they ever made to literally live 4 more seconds? That's their right in my book. Just don't come knocking on Uncle Sugar's door, because he never should have been on the hook for that shit to begin with."

 

As a society, we've made a pact with each other to not let lack of money prevent someone from receiving the best medical procedures available.  I agree with this.

 

However, like you, I recognize that there is a cost benefit analysis to be done at the extreme edge.  Expensive procedures that make hospitals, doctors and labs enormous profits with next to zero risk can't continue to be paid for with taxpayer money. 

 

At some point, we need to be able to make reasonable, informed decisions on which things we, as a society, will pay for and what we won't.

518 It's getting to the point where you can discuss any idea you want here... 

As long as it conforms to the mob. 

If you suggest that the horse thief should get a trial before he's hung, you might end up swinging with him. 

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 05:30 PM (u2a4R)


Oh, we can discuss any idea just fine.   If you were looking for common ground, we could agree that healthcare is subject to diminishing returns and there is a cost/benefit analysis to make.  

But it sure is funny how you insist that cost/benefit analysis for each individual situation needs to performed at a national level, which assumes a centralized national socialist healthcare system.  Then you quickly attack the conservatism for anyone who disagrees with your final solution, as if anyone who disagrees with you wants an unstable positive feedback system of "free" healthcare and unlimited benefits.  

Troll harder.  

519 And until we start having *that exact conversation*, ain't nobody fixing jack shit about anything to do with healthcare in this country. Not when the largest volume buyer of healthcare services on the planet is named CMS. Posted by: at May 09, 2013 05:38 PM (Vgn84) That conversation only works if you have a two tier healthcare system. When Obama's design for Obamacare was a Darthmouth Professor who let his daughter pass away because "he" didn't want to see her in pain any longer, it can turn us into a selfish society. The focus needs to be on having people save money for their healthcare expenses from birth, and on financially rewarding healthy choices.

520 What you say is true. Medicare never should have been in a position to approve a $90,000 prostate treatment...that prolongs patients lives 3-6 months. That ain't no safety net, it's blatant theft of years from the next generation to fund a few shitty months of the last one. If someone wants to exhaust every penny they ever made to literally live 4 more seconds? That's their right in my book. Just don't come knocking on Uncle Sugar's door, because he never should have been on the hook for that shit to begin with. Posted by: at May 09, 2013 05:35 PM (Vgn84) It's worse. Medicare bends the cost curve upwards. When we got away from the notion of people paying for their own medical care, we effectively disconnected the controls on prices. Medicare remittance rates sets the minimum cost of a procedure. The government artificially distorts the market away from supply and demand.

521   I may be wrong, but I suspect you are misrepresenting his position. That seems too extreme to be believable. 

Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 09, 2013 05:41 PM (bb5+k)


Am biased, but I agree with the summary.  At this point, jwest is trolling with an occasional veneer of reasonableness.   

522

"But it sure is funny how you insist that cost/benefit analysis for each individual situation needs to performed at a national level, which assumes a centralized national socialist healthcare system."

 

It's called Medicare.

 

Since there is little chance that anyone is going to repeal Medicare soon, we might want to look into setting some reasonable limits on what we pay for.

 

 

523   It's called Medicare.  Since there is little chance that anyone is going to repeal Medicare soon, we might want to look into setting some reasonable limits on what we pay for. 

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 05:46 PM (u2a4R)


In short, let's try to make a fundamentally broken system work.  

How much harm are you trying to do?  

524 How many people have cancelled their cable today?

525 524 At some point, we need to be able to make reasonable, informed decisions on which things we, as a society, will pay for and what we won't. Which the Left and their sycophantic enablers in the media (REPUBLICANS WANT TO KILL OLD PEOPLE! PAUL RYAN HATES OLD PEOPLE! THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE YOUR MEDICARE!) won't allow to happen. So, we remain fucked. Hell, the conversation (which we and many others agree MUST take place) you envision can't even take place with today's left. They're not mature enough to even initiate this type of dialogue and prefer to demagogue and divide instead of unite, as they brazenly proved yesterday during the "hearings"...and during every "bipartisan" thing I can remember of late. If anyone even mentions said conversation, both sides swarm and so the can is kicked even further down the road.

526 Since there is little chance that anyone is going to repeal Medicare soon, we might want to look into setting some reasonable limits on what we pay for. Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 05:46 PM (u2a4R) I truly think that ship has sailed and sunk. I may be mistaken, but it looks like we are fighting a rear guard retreating action that isn't going to end well. The Communists are winning. We are becoming the resistance.

527 531 How many people have cancelled their cable today? I paid my 2d U-Verse bill online. Best I can do...

528 It took me so long to type that it seems the topic died. That's basically the story of my AosHQ life.

529 There are over 330 million inputs to that equation. This type of problem simply isn't the kind of problem that is solved in a Democracy, which is why thankfully our Founding Fath...sigh....but I digress.

530 Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 09, 2013 05:29 PM (bb5+k)

Yeppers.  To the point.

531
513 If the Republicans were smart they would starting pushing legislation to allow for consumer choice in channel selection. 1. It is little guy v. Comcast; 2. it is a possible hypocrisy charge against opponents [choice, anti-corp, etc] and 3. if you can get it passed,it will potentially reduce the pool of money used to fund the leftie meme creators like MSNBC because no more bundling.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at May 09, 2013 05:31 PM (qwK3S)

No let the market do that. Its already moving in that direction. We really don't want the government sticking their noses into what we watch or don't watch. What Republicans should be doing is looking at ways to remove regulations and the protections the networks have under current law. They should also refuse to go on an NBC or Comcast affiliated news show.

532 523 Jwest wants to kill anyone with cancer. After all it's just their bodies way of telling them it time to die. So we should provide no treatment at all. Since they want to die. Posted by: Buzzion at May 09, 2013 05:32 PM (2zJXL) I may be wrong, but I suspect you are misrepresenting his position. That seems too extreme to be believable. Posted by: Diogenes' Lamp at May 09, 2013 05:41 PM (bb5+k) Referencing previous shit the troll jwest has said. The troll has argued to not provide care to people based on the idea that their body is telling them it's time to die. Cancer sure seems to me like its your body planning to kill itself. The troll just doesn't like seeing where his views actually go. See only be is allowed to engage in exaggeration to attack people it cannot be used against him. Even if its not much of an exaggeration

533

"In short, let's try to make a fundamentally broken system work.

How much harm are you trying to do? "

 

It's worst than that.

 

My idea for fixing everything comes from F.A. Hayek, as outlined in "The Road To Serfdom".  I want all normal, predictable medical charges paid for directly to the provider by the indivdual through a Medical Savings Account.

 

However, and this is where Hayek comes in, I want a nationalized system to set limits and pay for catastrophic procedures.  Damn near single-payer.

 

I don't view this as socialist, as Hayek didn't because it is actually what government (in it's broad form) is for.  Doing things that individually would be impossible.

 

Now you rip on me if you like.

534

"NBC is now finishing behind Spanish-language Univision in the ratings."

So what are we doing to take advantage of the Spanish-language channels?

535 Why should a doctor get rich, man? He should donate his skills for the people, dude. Like writing my weed scrip.

536 Conservatives are shocked to discover that the truth no longer matters and they have no idea what to do about it.

Posted by: WalrusRex at May 09, 2013 03:21 PM (XUKZU)

Hit the nail on the head

537 I'll say this, for whatever reason (though they're claiming it's because of Obamacare) they are now releasing a list of the prices charged for common procedures.

I've always wondered about this as the price charged for a particular procedure is difficult if not impossible to get an exact quote or even a ball park figure on. (by ball park, I mean within 1k +-. they will hem and haw but never tell you the exact total)

We find that a hospital on one side of town charges one price and a hospital on the other side charges something else.

This has long been a peeve of mine. What service can you go to where you never know how much the bill will be?  A law suit maybe.

Anywhere else, you at least get an estimate. I don't mean a guaranteed price. I understand things happen differently for different patients but you should at least get an estimate.

But you don't and there's a reason for that. They want to hide how much they charge to prevent the very thing they fear the most: market place forces.

And that's why the health care system has been so ripe for change and now has fallen to the government. They resisted market forces and were aided and abetted by insurance companies, Health plans and the government and now the chickens are coming home to roost but unfortunately the US taxpayer will be the one to pay the bill.

538 OT  I just heard this re. stand down order.  From the Pentagon  "they were not told to stand down.  They were simply ordered not to go to Benghazi...." and go to the airport or something.

It depends on what your definition of "is" is.

539 "The state already controls the market.

In so much of communications and media, especially in industries like ISPs, there are monopolies or cartels, and they are often done with the blessing of gov't.

Posted by: KG at May 09, 2013 04:56 PM (p7BzH)"

They control too much of the market, but they do not control every transaction down to the number of channels offered.  Regardless, even were we to assume they do, this does not make it right or good.

The point is it should be the market that decides if bundling is a good thing or not, not the state.  A law dictating that bundling is/is not allowed is not the solution to the problem.

540   It's worst than that.  My idea for fixing everything comes from F.A. Hayek, as outlined in "The Road To Serfdom".

I want all normal, predictable medical charges paid for directly to the provider by the indivdual through a Medical Savings Account. 

However, and this is where Hayek comes in, I want a nationalized system to set limits and pay for catastrophic procedures. Damn near single-payer. 

I don't view this as socialist, as Hayek didn't because it is actually what government (in it's broad form) is for.  Doing things that individually would be impossible. 

Now you rip on me if you like. 

Posted by: jwest at May 09, 2013 05:56 PM (u2a4R)


In short, you want a national government run catastrophic insurance program.  That is socialist because the private sector is just as capable of accomplishing that goal.   Ever buy car insurance?   That wasn't "individually impossible", was it?   Health insurance is and can be the same thing - it's government interference that prevents that outcome.  

A state law requiring every one to buy catastrophic health insurance could accomplish even better results than your idea, as individuals could customize their level of insurance to their actual needs, and the market would be more sensitive to supply and demand.  

Your idea does improve on our current broken system, so that's to your credit.   Where we have a problem is your constant attacks on everyone else's conservatism.   It's possible to be a conservative and disagree with jwest.   

541

What were the guys watching, Paul? Watch the segment from up to 0:15 to see the girl fold and animate a napkin so as to resemble an erect penis.

But hey, she is a girl so she doesn't get a shirt.

542 500+ comments on this thread? WOW. And that's routine here. Good work attracts attention. Nothing else to say but I'm ALL IN on an NBC network and MSM link boycott. Also, I like all the cobs' work which complements Ace in every way. My time here is well spent. Thanks for your efforts and for sharing your slicing talent. --- a moronette, I guess.

543 Where's Joe? And where's O?

544 this is good, even by *your* standards.  BZ