January 21, 2013
— Ace Many commentators -- on Fox -- noticed how partisan the inaugural address was. The typical inaugural speaks in the broadest themes about the core of America, those things which are not generally disputed; this speech was more like a State of the Union, with a partisan political agenda and Designated Villains.
See, for example, Joel Pollack's reaction at Breitbart:
Throughout his address, the President maintained his voice in a near-shout. This was not an historic address, a reflection on a moment in history; it was an exhortation to political action, in contrast to the political reality of a divided Washington, in defiance of the profound economic challenges still facing the American people.It was a declaration of political war on individual liberty.
Even lefty columnist Eugene Robinson acknowledge it, stating "this might have been the most progressive speech he's given as President," and noting that the heavy implication was "there's more to come." Joe Biden further threatened:
“I want you to know something else about this guy Barack Obama — he’s just getting started,” Biden added. “He’s just getting started.”
Obama has always considered himself the Anti-Reagan -- he would not only undo the Reagan coalition and the Reagan era, but do what Reagan did but for the left, create a semi-permanent liberal majority.
Obama is on the way to accomplishing that, but for one thing: Reagan's presidency was a great success. Obama's is not. Success tends to attract fans; that's why people ask celebrities for autographs and read biographies of superstar athletes and innovators like Steve Jobs.
Obama has had many political successes, but he's had no non-political successes except for the assassination of Osama bin Ladin (and that of course was built on the earlier efforts of Bush, and was a longstanding bipartisan goal).
There is nothing he's done yet that a non-political person, or someone opposed to his politics, can point at and say "That's a good thing."
He won't seal any kind of deal until he manages that, and I don't think he will. The trajectory of socialism is failure. And yes, Obama is a socialist. And so history says he will fail.
Buzzfeed's Ben Smith Thinks Obama Can Be Reagan Absent Any Actual Accomplishments... For liberals, Obama's unabashed liberalism is enough.
Not so for non-liberals -- and by non-liberals, I don't just mean conservatives. I mean the great swathe of less political voters who aren't ideological enough to have strong opinions one way or the other, but who can tell the difference between a recession and an expansion.
So, contra the liberals, no, Obama's not Reagan yet.
This may shock liberals, but Being Very Liberal is not in and of itself an accomplishment. They themselves believe that it is an accomplishment -- a great deal of their own self-worth is based on who they vote for every two or four years -- but the rest of us think that accomplishments are different from mere beliefs and bleatings.
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Posted by: Vic at January 21, 2013 10:31 AM (53z96)
Posted by: Heralder at January 21, 2013 10:31 AM (N8zmf)
Posted by: Ace
Racist.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 21, 2013 10:31 AM (xz0nG)
Posted by: Vic at January 21, 2013 10:32 AM (53z96)
Can they though? I wonder.
Posted by: eleven at January 21, 2013 10:32 AM (KXm42)
This may shock liberals, but Being Very Liberal is not in and of itself an accomplishment.
Screetching, calling those who oppose you "the enemy," and fundamentally changing the country is what Being Very Liberal is all about.
But out here in the real world, you're right, Ace.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 21, 2013 10:33 AM (yiIja)
Posted by: beachout at January 21, 2013 10:33 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 21, 2013 10:34 AM (++kZl)
But having to actually accomplish anything more than that requires effort. And effort is so haaaaaard!!1!!1!1!!
Can't someone else just do it for me?
Posted by: Average Whiny Lib at January 21, 2013 10:34 AM (gCa4h)
Posted by: Vic at January 21, 2013 10:34 AM (53z96)
it would be an antiaccomplishment since it punishes real accomplishments.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 21, 2013 10:35 AM (qo244)
Posted by: Vic"
This is a trick question, right?
Posted by: holygoat at January 21, 2013 10:37 AM (XnwWl)
Posted by: King Clusterfuck at January 21, 2013 10:37 AM (w3+gB)
Posted by: MFM at January 21, 2013 10:37 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 21, 2013 10:37 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Infidel at January 21, 2013 10:37 AM (O/fK8)
'Cause that, that would be the nectar of the Gods
Posted by: acethepug at January 21, 2013 10:37 AM (xqLB6)
And the rich fucks on the dais with him nodded along.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at January 21, 2013 10:37 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 21, 2013 10:37 AM (Y5I9o)
Posted by: Vic
Wrong. He is a fascist.
Arugula doesn't do very well on collective farms.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 21, 2013 10:38 AM (xz0nG)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 21, 2013 10:38 AM (yiIja)
Posted by: CLP at January 21, 2013 10:38 AM (sZk6y)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2013 10:38 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at January 21, 2013 10:38 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Nobel Peace Dudes at January 21, 2013 10:39 AM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Injuin Black Foot Barry, the one that eats dogs. at January 21, 2013 10:39 AM (wR+pz)
From The Blaze, Chuck Hagel's ties to George Soros:
http://tinyurl.com/a7h3fjc
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 10:39 AM (UOM48)
the "true cons" over there have me in a rage at SMOD and the Mayans for not being right.
Part of me wonders if we will ever have another fair election in this nation again.
Burn it all down
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 10:39 AM (LRFds)
Reagan's presidency was a great success. Obama's is not. Success tends to attract fans;
He won a second term!!!! His only measure of success is power over people. He is successfull to the hilt.
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 21, 2013 10:39 AM (sHqf1)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at January 21, 2013 10:39 AM (QXlbZ)
All Barry wants are political successes. The country can rot as long as he can push his agenda
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2013 10:40 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 21, 2013 10:40 AM (GFM2b)
He will try to be the closest we've had to a dictator since FDR.
This is not going to end well because the fucking House GOP is not using ANY of its Goddamned power.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 10:40 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: mallfly at January 21, 2013 10:40 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: we are so screwed, deliver us oh SMOD at January 21, 2013 10:40 AM (HEa5q)
I'm sure those masks were getting uncomfortable, and there really isn't a reason to wear them anymore.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 10:41 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at January 21, 2013 10:41 AM (tUT9B)
If we ever want to fix this, we have to blow a hole through the Media's truth blockade.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 10:41 AM (bb5+k)
All Barry wants are political successes. The country can rot as long as he can push his agenda
The country is rotting as a result of his agenda. We just never hear about it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 21, 2013 10:41 AM (yiIja)
LIB can wait.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 21, 2013 02:37 PM (Y5I9o)
--- Oh yes they fucking can win and probable will because a lot of people don't see any difference between the two parties.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 21, 2013 10:42 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at January 21, 2013 10:42 AM (feFL6)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 21, 2013 10:42 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 21, 2013 10:42 AM (zhe90)
Posted by: Genuine Horse Hair Lacewigs at January 21, 2013 10:43 AM (/oBE+)
Posted by: The Tough Kid with the Bayonne accent at January 21, 2013 10:43 AM (fDKXE)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 10:43 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: tasker at January 21, 2013 10:44 AM (r2PLg)
Seriously, that's what it boils down to.
There's this theory that goes with a lot of ethnic politics: It's important that the First Black Whatever makes other Black Whatevers possible in the future and generally elevates blacks (replace with your favorite ethnic group).
It doesn't matter if he's a failure and, in fact, low-level black politicians love this idea that even though they might be stupid, corrupt or incompetent, they are important.
And so, blacks and some guilty non-blacks will justify placing this epic failure into a position of responsibility for that reason. Even though being a minority isn't a barrier, it's a leg up.
The bottom line is that support for Obama comes from racism, straight up.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 21, 2013 10:44 AM (T0NGe)
I use to weep for my contry. Now I just sit back and shake my head waiting for the inevitable.
Posted by: Bosk at January 21, 2013 10:44 AM (n2K+4)
As Reid and Pelosi walked out, I kept wishing they would slip on a patch of ice just for the entertainment factor. Yes, I am a bad person.
Schumer was his disgusting, lying self. Big surprise.
Posted by: Cheri at January 21, 2013 10:44 AM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Warthog at January 21, 2013 10:44 AM (OixJo)
And the rich fucks on the dais with him nodded along.
Because their cash is safe in the Caymans.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 21, 2013 02:42 PM (GFM2b)
Or they're his Hollywood buddies or other useful idiots who he'll take care of. But you'll never hear of that from the MFM
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2013 10:45 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Magnolia at January 21, 2013 10:45 AM (GimeK)
I for one will be making quilts which will celebrate Mr President's many triumphs (who are also our triumphs) over the racists who have attempted to block him at every turn and sandtrap.
Posted by: Mary Cloggensternum at January 21, 2013 10:45 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Popcorn at January 21, 2013 10:45 AM (uIpSF)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 21, 2013 02:42 PM (R8hU
And the reason they don't is because the media constantly pushes this argument, and then promotes bits of story here and there that appear to confirm this argument.
As long as they have sole control over what gets on television, the Media (New York and Los Angeles Liberal Democrat Union Members) will continue helping Democrats win elections.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 10:45 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 10:45 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 21, 2013 10:46 AM (mOyDx)
I hope no innocent victims were trampled in the process.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 21, 2013 10:46 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Rednomore at January 21, 2013 10:47 AM (L5acZ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 10:47 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 21, 2013 10:47 AM (T0NGe)
Fucking retard.
You actually took that statement at face value? Never occured to me.
Posted by: eleven at January 21, 2013 10:47 AM (KXm42)
He is NOT A SOCIALIST. (except for that little bit with the banks and automakers, lol.)
Stop saying "Socialist" when you (generic) mean "Fascist"!
/rant!
Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 21, 2013 10:47 AM (X/+QT)
Posted by: tasker at January 21, 2013 10:48 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: teej at January 21, 2013 10:48 AM (IyoLR)
Posted by: Magnolia at January 21, 2013 02:45 PM (GimeK)
If you can't extinguish a fire with a frontal assault, you have to light backfires to burn up it's fuel.
We need to do everything we can to make financial problems worse for big government types both in and out of office.
Burn It Down.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 10:49 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 21, 2013 10:49 AM (yiIja)
Buzzfeed's Ben Smith Thinks Obama Can Be Reagan Absent Any Actual Accomplishments... For liberals, Obama's unabashed liberalism is enough.
Not so for non-liberals -- and by non-liberals, I don't just mean conservatives. I mean the great swathe of less political voters who aren't ideological enough to have strong opinions one way or the other, but who can tell the difference between a recession and an expansion.
So, contra the liberals, no, Obama's not Reagan yet.
This may shock liberals, but Being Very Liberal is not in and of itself an accomplishment. They themselves believe that it is an accomplishment -- a great deal of their own self-worth is based on who they vote for every two or four years -- but the rest of us think that accomplishments are different from mere beliefs and bleatings."
Some of your best paragraphs, ace. I also try to consistently divide the world into liberals and non-liberals because of this very liberal phenomenon of taking beliefs as accomplishments. If humans ever find the genetic basis of this phenomenon, I hope we non-liberals have the courage to eradicate those genes from the gene pool.
Posted by: BS Inc. at January 21, 2013 10:49 AM (eP0u9)
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 10:50 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: Cheri at January 21, 2013 10:50 AM (EAgmr)
We, the people, still believe that enduring security and lasting peace do not require perpetual war. Our brave men and women in uniform, tempered by the flames of battle, are unmatched in skill and courage. Our citizens, seared by the memory of those we have lost, know too well the price that is paid for liberty.
Wow. My Hate Meter just flew off the wall and broke a window.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 10:50 AM (UOM48)
Remember how, despite the fact that the economy was going gangbusters, the country got tired of Bill Clinton?
Remember how even the liberal media couldn't resist running stories about "Clinton fatigue"? Despite Clinton winning re-election by a huge margin with high approval ratings?
The economy will not be going gangbusters for the next four years. Obamanomics is not Clintonomics.
Obama won re-election, but not with high approval numbers nor by a huge margin. Lowest in history for a re-elected President, actually.
He's a lame duck. And Obama fatigue will set in sooner than you think.
Right now, those opposed to Obama need to think like insurgents. They need to keep their powder dry and pick their fighting ground carefully.
And we need to FOCUS ON THE SENATE FOR 2014. An election that is less than two years away. If the GOP take and hold that ground, the Obama agenda stops dead right there. Contained damage.
For the Senate in the 2014 cycle, I recommend we nominate a full slate of fundamentalist retards who will tell the voters that rape pregnancies are something that "God intends". Since that messaging worked so brilliantly in the 2012 cycle. And no, not that I'm bitter about that needless loss or anything.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 21, 2013 10:50 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: tasker at January 21, 2013 10:50 AM (r2PLg)
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
o wait, you're being serious?
Posted by: wiserbud at January 21, 2013 10:51 AM (gCa4h)
The main opponent to W? That's right McCain. We were *this* ║ close to having President Gore. Our F*up might have been not having a tea party form during the Clinton years. In all fairness, with a budget surplus and all it looked like things were trending our way. Then that damn Neo-Con movement came to power in the Rs. Cut us some slack, we did the best with what we had and we could see at the time.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 10:51 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 21, 2013 10:51 AM (Y5I9o)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 21, 2013 10:52 AM (evdj2)
Matt Lauer has a net worth of $60 million.
Katie Couric has a net worth of $55 million.
George StephanopoulosÂ’ net worth is $14 million dollars.
Christiane AmanpourÂ’s net worth is $12.5 million dollars.
...and on and on it goes.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 21, 2013 10:52 AM (0It32)
Ace:
What the hell are you talking about??
LIFE is Political Success.
That's all LIFE is. Winning at your politics. That's a measure of a life.
Are you crazy or just stupid?
Love, Liberals
Posted by: DailyKos at January 21, 2013 10:52 AM (Bv9qa)
Eight years ago, the voices and future voices of conservatism were who exactly. Now they are Rubio, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Paul Ryan, Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal, Martinez, etc.
While I think the country as a whole has taken a step back, true conservative leaders have risen up so maybe we are in better shape, like Reagan rising from the disasterous political defeat of Goldwater.
/Trying to find some hope to sustain me for the next 4 years.
Posted by: SH at January 21, 2013 10:52 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: tasker at January 21, 2013 10:52 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Thea at January 21, 2013 10:53 AM (d4HWM)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 21, 2013 10:53 AM (++kZl)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 21, 2013 10:53 AM (Y5I9o)
That pantload speech will buy him another few months of pretending he's accomplishing things.
He's still just a community organizer.
Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at January 21, 2013 10:54 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: eleven at January 21, 2013 10:54 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: gw mclintock at January 21, 2013 10:54 AM (om+Mk)
Posted by: torquewrench at January 21, 2013 02:50 PM (gqT4g)
Yes, I am very pissed off about that too. I find it hard to believe that anyone who has the slightest smidgeon of an idea about how politics works, could have said such things. That was the loss of two Senate seats, and quite probably caused the larger election loss, and there was absolutely no reason for it. They could have just shut up and been better off.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 10:54 AM (bb5+k)
Matt Lauer has a net worth of $60 million.
Katie Couric has a net worth of $55 million.
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This surprises me, I would have though Couric would be way ahead.
Posted by: SH at January 21, 2013 10:55 AM (gmeXX)
I don't want to see its face or hear its voice today
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 21, 2013 10:56 AM (8sCoq)
@83
I'm with you here. I think O might be at a high water mark. Make him keep asking for debt deals every 3 months. Make the dems take votes they dont want to on energy. Divide them and conquer.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 10:56 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 10:56 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 21, 2013 10:57 AM (9+ccr)
Lauer saves a lot of money on haircuts by doing it himself.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 21, 2013 10:57 AM (0It32)
Lauer saves a lot of money on haircuts by doing it himself.
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I could have said the same thing about Couric.
Posted by: SH at January 21, 2013 10:58 AM (gmeXX)
her plastic surgery bill and hooker bill cost her more.
Life is an interaction of income, and expenses and that bitch has bills.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 10:58 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Obama the Almighty at January 21, 2013 10:58 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 10:58 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 21, 2013 10:59 AM (X11b6)
After this speech I can hardly wait to hear what he has to say in his State of the Union Speech...
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I think it customary that there is no SOTU speech during an inaugural year. But why should that stop the great orator from giving one.
Posted by: SH at January 21, 2013 10:59 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Cheri at January 21, 2013 10:59 AM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Lauren at January 21, 2013 10:59 AM (wsGWu)
After this speech I can hardly wait to hear what he has to say in his State of the Union Speech... Oh that's right he'll just recycle this piece of crap more or less with a little more "It's the Republicans fault" thrown in for good measure...
I want to see him deliver that speech to a nearly empty room, and see a lot of others upget and outwalk when he starts his bullshit.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 21, 2013 10:59 AM (yiIja)
Yeah and the media will be sure to report on things...
look you're right even Schmuck Choomer knows the Senate has to pass a budget or he's fucked if the nation has ANY sanity.
The problem?
The nation has no sanity.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 10:59 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 21, 2013 11:00 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: mallfly at January 21, 2013 11:00 AM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at January 21, 2013 11:00 AM (vez/B)
Posted by: Mike the Moose. at January 21, 2013 02:51 PM (0q2P7)
Something very like the Tea Party WAS forming during the Clinton Presidency. By 1994, people were fed up with Bill Clinton, and wanted his ass on a stick. Political unrest was growing and people were becoming more confrontational about government and specifically about Clinton. Then that fucking idiot blew up the Federal building.
Not only did the Shell Shocked Clinton and the Shell Shocked Media find their voice, it gave them the opportunity to paint all opposition to Government as tantamount to terrorism. The forces that were building towards Clinton's ouster were set back and scattered to the winds, because no one wanted to be associated with what McVeigh had done.
Had McVeigh done nothing, history might have been very different, and likely far better than it has turned out to be.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 11:01 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 21, 2013 11:01 AM (X11b6)
which is why the correct answer to the next GOP politician who gets that bullshit from the media is derisive mocking laughter and a hearty "fuck you"
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:01 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 11:01 AM (UOM48)
But they LOVE children! Well at least John Roberts got to swear this President in. He sold his soul for that moment.
Posted by: Cheri at January 21, 2013 11:02 AM (EAgmr)
A bit hard when the media asks prolife candidates why they're so damn extreme, but never asks Obama why he voted 3 times to let infants suffocate to death in a soiled utility room.
We know the MFM will never axe that question. I can't figure out why no candidate ever mentioned it.
Aside from the fact that they're ball-less wonders.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 21, 2013 11:02 AM (yiIja)
The nation has no sanity.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 02:59 PM (LRFds)
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Free shit and no virtue. We're ripe for the reaper.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 11:02 AM (hBvAX)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 21, 2013 03:00 PM (9+ccr)
They were obviously evil oil industry capitalsists. They deserved to die.
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 11:03 AM (OQpzc)
My lenten resolution is to avoid all Obama speeches. Wait the SOTU is on the Tuesday before lent. Doh.
Posted by: SH at January 21, 2013 11:03 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: beachout at January 21, 2013 11:03 AM (LpQbZ)
Keep it klassy, Marxist loons.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 11:03 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: ejo at January 21, 2013 11:03 AM (GXvSO)
Posted by: Exasperated Expat at January 21, 2013 11:03 AM (gkfSV)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 21, 2013 11:03 AM (Cm5S0)
Posted by: rickl at January 21, 2013 11:04 AM (zoehZ)
Posted by: JPS at January 21, 2013 11:04 AM (D2caQ)
Which gets reported as "violent extremist anti-choicer threatens debate moderator with rape."
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at January 21, 2013 11:04 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 21, 2013 11:04 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: November 2012 at January 21, 2013 11:04 AM (Lxw+T)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 21, 2013 02:59 PM (X11b6)
I wouldn't even attend. It's long past time for us to stop showing this bastard the slightest degree of respect.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 11:05 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 21, 2013 02:59 PM (X11b6)
I wouldn't even attend. It's long past time for us to stop showing this bastard the slightest degree of respect.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 11:05 AM (bb5+k)
Very true.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (T0NGe)
Very true.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (T0NGe)
Maybe he can rebuild the Berlin wall?
Posted by: pep at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (6TB1Z)
Maybe he can rebuild the Berlin wall?
Posted by: pep at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 21, 2013 03:04 PM (9+ccr
Go all-out and swing by Chick-fil-a for a Hate shake.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 21, 2013 03:04 PM (9+ccr
Go all-out and swing by Chick-fil-a for a Hate shake.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Typical Response from a Bot at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (om+Mk)
Posted by: Typical Response from a Bot at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (om+Mk)
Well my plan c or d would be "have followers lynch reporters as they leave."
The right can either get over this let the donks slowly kill them and play Chicago style while we run '50s Sci-Fi movie science guy or fight back.
Jesus Nixon supporters were all over Humphery fans
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (LRFds)
Well my plan c or d would be "have followers lynch reporters as they leave."
The right can either get over this let the donks slowly kill them and play Chicago style while we run '50s Sci-Fi movie science guy or fight back.
Jesus Nixon supporters were all over Humphery fans
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (LRFds)
Had McVeigh done nothing, history might have been very different, and likely far better than it has turned out to be.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 03:01 PM (bb5+k)
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Bill and Hill were elected long before the bombing. This nation was well on it's way, bombing or not, to be at the point we find ourselves now.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (hBvAX)
Had McVeigh done nothing, history might have been very different, and likely far better than it has turned out to be.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 03:01 PM (bb5+k)
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Bill and Hill were elected long before the bombing. This nation was well on it's way, bombing or not, to be at the point we find ourselves now.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (hBvAX)
Posted by: beachout at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: beachout at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: MSM Headline at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (wsGWu)
Posted by: MSM Headline at January 21, 2013 11:06 AM (wsGWu)
Posted by: Lauren at January 21, 2013 02:59 PM (wsGWu)
And anyone with the slightest clue about Liberal Media already knows this. The appropriate response to Liberal Media asking such questions is to quietly stand up, walk over to them deliberately, and then try to knock some teeth down their throat.
They want to be an enemy agent? Treat them like a fucking enemy agent!!!!!!
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 11:07 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Cheri at January 21, 2013 11:07 AM (EAgmr)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at January 21, 2013 03:03 PM (Cm5S0)
You know what I remember? I remember you sucking Obama's dick in the third debate. Hope it tasted nearly a billion $ worth of good you pussy.
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 11:07 AM (OQpzc)
This is just lovely..
I've never been a gun owner.. but I think that time may be coming.. except I would have to pick a time when the prices have skyrocketed, availability is terrible and the prospects of legally purchasing them diminishes each day!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 21, 2013 11:08 AM (f9c2L)
No successes?
Whaddya mean, no successes.
I succeeded in getting this nation's Credit Rating downgraded.
I succeeded in ramming ZeroCare® down your throats, and preying on the need for a few simple reforms to establish total control of your lives.
I succeeded in crippling the economy even further, by burdening the energy sector with even more regulations.
I succeeded in hiding how many people are really unemployed.
I succeeded in demonizing those fuckin Tea Party people, so badly that the idiots in Congress are afraid to do what they were sent there to do.
So you see?
I've succeeded in doing a lot!
Posted by: King Zero Dark Squirty at January 21, 2013 11:08 AM (fH4X9)
You guys are being a little too Eeyore. Toonces is not polling well, his gun control bullshit--an appeal to stupid moms--is falling on its face. The GOP, while failing to make any headway on spending, is at least highlighting where the problem lies. Second terms are notoriously lackluster.
I got a less-than-awful feeling about this. Now what we do with the leftover damage, just glad I don't have to fix it.
Posted by: spongeworthy at January 21, 2013 11:08 AM (r5w1L)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 21, 2013 11:09 AM (P7hip)
Posted by: thunderb at January 21, 2013 11:09 AM (Dnbau)
bullshit from the media is derisive mocking laughter and a hearty "fuck
you"
A very good response, especially from a blue/purple state: "I prefer European-style abortion laws."
Most people don't know that getting a third trimester abortion in much of Europe is nearly impossible. It isn't very easy in the second trimester either.
But FYNQ is a good first response.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 21, 2013 11:09 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Dark Ages at January 21, 2013 11:09 AM (+kznc)
I thought it the California model. Eh. Distinction without a difference I guess.
Posted by: eleven at January 21, 2013 11:10 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 21, 2013 11:11 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Dan at January 21, 2013 11:11 AM (/7gN/)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 03:01 PM (LRFds)
I vote for a punch in the mouth to the enemy media agent. Give the rest of them reason to pause when next they think to try such a trick. I'm serious people, it's past time we started getting violent with Media people. They need to be very afraid of us.
Think about it. A few media ass kickings earlier might have saved many deaths (from economic collapse) later.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 11:11 AM (bb5+k)
Number of Republicans who will refuse to meet with him: 0
Number of Republicans who will refuse to negotiate with him: 0
Number of Republicans who will who will do any of the above with regards to any member of his administration: 0
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 21, 2013 11:11 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 21, 2013 11:11 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 21, 2013 03:08 PM (f9c2L)
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Buying a gun is the easy part. Buying a gun that fires cheap and accessable ammo may be a problem.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 11:12 AM (hBvAX)
come on be happy sven.....
you can still survive you can still survive.
I mean for fuck's sakes he is reinflating the fucking housing bubble, on the one hand I could be thrilled since it means I will probably at least break even...
on the other hand....
I'm old enough to remember when Democrats wet the bed over 42 million in defense overruns....
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:12 AM (LRFds)
Or we could have a total collapse and end up with the USSA.
Posted by: Evan Maughan at January 21, 2013 11:13 AM (eEyQV)
My guess is Obama will leave office similar to how Dubya left office, but the media will make sure to give him FAR more favorable coverage, but it will still be some combination of Carter and Bush. I don't see Obama leaving office like Reagan did where he was beloved and had really moved the nation to a new type of era. It will be a narrow victory on dumb issues like skin color and free birth control.
Posted by: McAdams at January 21, 2013 11:13 AM (w+45J)
if they don't get a fucking backbone and draw the line on speech and guns and at least gasp when he fucks them on spending.....
I won't be meeting with the GOP except holding my nose in the booth assuming I get to vote.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:13 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 21, 2013 11:14 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: SH at January 21, 2013 11:14 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Dark Ages at January 21, 2013 03:09 PM (+kznc)
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Posted by: SMOD LLC at January 21, 2013 11:14 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 21, 2013 03:08 PM (f9c2L)
You picked a helluva day to start drinking!
Posted by: EC at January 21, 2013 11:14 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at January 21, 2013 02:57 PM (9+ccr)
Something about a 5 year plan and rounding up the bourgeoisie for re-education
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2013 11:15 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: JPS at January 21, 2013 11:15 AM (D2caQ)
Posted by: Dan at January 21, 2013 03:11 PM (/7gN/)
And that is why you need feel no guilt about fucking them like the cheap, idiot whores they are. No guilt.
Pork Party 2014. Because all America should send billions of dollars to Texas. Anyone who votes to send tens of billions to Texas is my guy/gal. Rock on rapers of the US. You are only giving the idiots what they voted for.
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 11:15 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 21, 2013 11:16 AM (mSxBj)
Posted by: gigg at January 21, 2013 11:16 AM (41VCE)
Posted by: Lauren at January 21, 2013 11:17 AM (wsGWu)
Gridlock with EOs so odious it leads to peaceful demonstrations.
or
dissolution of the union and an ART V convention and break up.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:17 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2013 11:17 AM (kpCLl)
Posted by: Beverley at January 21, 2013 11:17 AM (oRUeA)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 21, 2013 03:16 PM (mSxBj)
We have many attractive end-of-the-world options. Give us a call at 1-800-BIGBANG today!
Posted by: SMOD LLC at January 21, 2013 11:18 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 21, 2013 11:18 AM (5H6zj)
Bill and Hill were elected long before the bombing. This nation was well on it's way, bombing or not, to be at the point we find ourselves now.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 03:06 PM (hBvAX)
Clinton was "defaulted" (He wasn't elected. Ross Perot split the majority. Clinton just had the highest plurality of the stupid.) not "elected" in 1992. In 1994, the Republicans kicked the dog shit out of the Democrats, and were about to seriously hurt Bill Clinton, and possibly impeach and remove him.
In 1995, just as they were flexing their muscles, the Republicans had to face media accusations of extremism and hate after McVeigh blew up the Federal building. What started out as a wining coalition intent upon confronting excesses of governance, ended up being attacked incessantly from all sources of the Media. Clinton recovered his voice, and went on to beat Bob Dole in the Presidential election of 1996.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 11:18 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 21, 2013 11:18 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: rickl at January 21, 2013 11:19 AM (zoehZ)
No. The California model makes the European model look positively miserly and measured. Financial aid for illegal aliens. Social handouts out the wazoo. Abortion in France is illegal after week 14. Think that would fly in Cali? Average public pensions in excess of the US' average salary. Over 500 State run agencies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_California_state_agencies
And that's not even all of them. No California is much much worse than the European system.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 11:20 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 21, 2013 11:20 AM (GFM2b)
San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro and his brother, Rep. Joaquin Castro, see a lot of blue sky in Texas' future.
Very blue.
The twin brothers predicted to a national TV audience Sunday that Republicans will lose their iron grip on Texas — that within two presidential election cycles, the currently "red" state will shift from a GOP stronghold to being dominated by Democrats.
On CBS' "Face the Nation," the prominent Texas Democrats also said that President Barack Obama and Congress should tackle the economy, education, immigration reform and gun laws this year.
"It's changing. It's going to become a "purple state" then a "blue state" because of the demographics, because of the population from folks coming from outside Texas," Julian Castro said.
Joaquin Castro agreed, but added that "it's going to take a lot of work from Democrats to lay the infrastructure for change — we are very busy working on that now."
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 21, 2013 11:20 AM (0It32)
Posted by: tubal at January 21, 2013 11:20 AM (BoE3Z)
182 Is there a best case scenario for the next four years? What?
The Dems and King Squirty keep talking about 'gun control'...and they get their asses handed to them in 2014.
Even BJ Clinton is warning them to stop talking about gun control.
He saw what happened to him, in 1994.
Will they listen?
I doubt it.
Clinton served his purpose in the election, so they can go back to ignoring him now.
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 11:20 AM (fH4X9)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 21, 2013 11:20 AM (Vk2pI)
I would register for that one.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:20 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: teej at January 21, 2013 11:20 AM (HT2Nt)
Unfortunately, you couldn't have picked a worse time. We're now in second term territory where TFG doesn't have to hold back, and that means all sorts of uncertainty with respect to gun control laws. This has the effect of creating panic buying and hoarding, which drives up prices. If you really, really want one, you're gonna have to pay some money.
Posted by: EC at January 21, 2013 11:20 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Vic at January 21, 2013 02:34 PM (53z96)
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How many people of the non-moron variety will ever acknowledge that?
Posted by: RickZ at January 21, 2013 11:21 AM (3o0hi)
Posted by: SMOD LLC at January 21, 2013 11:21 AM (8sCoq)
Not if we have anything to say about it, and we will.
Bleeding Kansas has happened before.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:21 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 03:18 PM (bb5+k)
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C'mon! It was Bob "Punk You With Boredom" Dole.
Although, it's another example of letting the RNC pick our candidate.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 11:22 AM (hBvAX)
Posted by: thunderb at January 21, 2013 11:22 AM (Dnbau)
Total economic collapse followed by mass civil unrest that amongst chaos, starvation, attempts at a police state, unchecked crime and violence, and death, leads to the solidarity of the freedom movement which rises again from the ashes of a fallen nation to re-constitute itself as a free nation once again.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 11:23 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 21, 2013 03:20 PM (0It32)
Yep, just like a military campaign. The took Brownsville with outside funding from communists. Then went the bk bond debt route to run up debt, then expanded their foothold to neighboring counties with promises of frees shit.
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 11:23 AM (OQpzc)
In 1994, the Republicans kicked the dog shit out of the Democrats, and were about to seriously hurt Bill Clinton, and possibly impeach and remove him.
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What for? Waco? It is hard to tell how things would have turned out had OkCity never happened. But it is a great question to ponder.
At least Gingrich was able to get clinton to pivot back to the center. All the press focus' on is how the public blamed the GOP for the shutdown. Though there was no huge electoral loss for it. No word on the balanced budget and welfare reform that also resulted from it.
Posted by: SH at January 21, 2013 11:24 AM (gmeXX)
and texas republicans should be bussing in out of work Red voting Blue State refugees who write the TX Gop.
We lose because we never even acknowledge the immoral fight we're stuck in.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:24 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: tasker at January 21, 2013 11:24 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: gigg at January 21, 2013 11:24 AM (41VCE)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 03:21 PM
If Holder keeps them in weapons and ammo, it's gonna be tough.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 21, 2013 11:24 AM (0It32)
Posted by: Lauren at January 21, 2013 11:25 AM (wsGWu)
Is there a best case scenario for the next four years? What?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 21, 2013 03:16 PM (mSxBj)
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Part of the Bill of Rights may still exist.
Seriously, the current situation isn't going to last for four years, but I can't predict when it will fall apart.
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Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at January 21, 2013 11:25 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 03:23 PM (0q2P7)
Thugs with guns are good enough to cow the populations where they've disarmed the average folks. Kind of brings a whole new slant to all the unofficial armories being built, no?
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 11:26 AM (OQpzc)
They're not going to quarter the military in our homes.
The Free Shit Army, OTOH....
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at January 21, 2013 11:26 AM (ZKzrr)
208 you flood TX with Mexican immigrants and give them the vote and TX will be blue. That the plan
Rick Perry should post signs...en Es-pan-yo...that all new citizens automatically owe $52,800.00 to the US Federales.
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 11:26 AM (fH4X9)
It actually began forming before his presidency. You can trace a lot of the ideological meat of the current Tea Party (especially on debt/deficit issues) to Perot voters.
Posted by: angler at January 21, 2013 11:26 AM (SwjAj)
Maybe, frankly I think it'd just speed things up.
Fuck 10,000 guys named Juan and the donks they want a Central American Nation let's split and they can have it.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:27 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: thunderb at January 21, 2013 11:27 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: ejo at January 21, 2013 11:27 AM (GXvSO)
Posted by: beachout at January 21, 2013 11:27 AM (LpQbZ)
Is it over yet? I just want to go to sleep and wake up tomorrow.....A sad day for America.....:/
I'd prefer to wake up in four years and discover that TFG had been impeached, we'd had special elections that booted all the Leftards out of Congress, we're enjoying a robust GDP growth of 9%, UE was down to 5%, the Mexican border was sealed up tight, Iran had been nuked and islam was on the run, gas was $1.75/gal and groceries were half the price they are today.
And there was a President Perry being inaugurated.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 21, 2013 11:27 AM (yiIja)
A plan which has a pretty good shot at working.
I'm a Californian.
California used to be "Reagan country". Not all that long ago.
Then a bazillion Mexican illegals got amnesty and started voting overwhelmingly for Democrats. Thanks to... Reagan. In one of the worst decisions of his entire political career.
CA will never again be "Reagan country". Never, ever.
Demographics are destiny.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 21, 2013 11:27 AM (gqT4g)
or we divorce and use our natural resources to put people back to work.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 03:25 PM (LRFds)
The only viable recourse with an extremist Communist in the White House. But don't expect leadership on this option to come from the Republican Party. That's a no-go. For the Republicans to spearhead that movement is laughable.
Posted by: tubal at January 21, 2013 11:28 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 21, 2013 11:28 AM (evdj2)
You mean fucking the GOP and empowering every reddening shades of economic Scarlet through default?
Yeah I can buy that from the Perotsites.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:28 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk has few words for this abomination at January 21, 2013 11:28 AM (p/cQy)
Posted by: #6 at January 21, 2013 11:29 AM (KHo8t)
<i>Is there a best case scenario for the next four years?</i>
Deficit - $2T
Debt - $22T
Gas - $11/ga
Healthcare - $2000/mo
Home - underwater
Employment - not currently
Chinese overlords - welcome
Posted by: Entropy at January 21, 2013 11:29 AM (TULs6)
Have you watched Gen Ben Partin's "school session" on that?
Or seen Ted Gunderson's (former special agent in charge of the LA FBI office) take on it?
Ya think they're just nutcases conspiracy theorists?
Yes. Mostly because they are in fact nutcase conspiracy theorists.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 21, 2013 11:29 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: tasker at January 21, 2013 11:29 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: gigg at January 21, 2013 11:29 AM (41VCE)
Posted by: beachout at January 21, 2013 11:29 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: thunderb at January 21, 2013 03:27 PM (Dnbau)
Parasitic overgrowth is not a problem until it reaches a certain critical mass. Ask Colorado.
Posted by: tubal at January 21, 2013 11:30 AM (BoE3Z)
The twin brothers predicted to a national TV audience Sunday that Republicans will lose their iron grip on Texas — that within two presidential election cycles, the currently "red" state will shift from a GOP stronghold to being dominated by Democrats.
On CBS' "Face the Nation," the prominent Texas Democrats also said that President Barack Obama and Congress should tackle the economy, education, immigration reform and gun laws this year.
"It's changing. It's going to become a "purple state" then a "blue state" because of the demographics, because of the population from folks coming from outside Texas," Julian Castro said.
Joaquin Castro agreed, but added that "it's going to take a lot of work from Democrats to lay the infrastructure for change — we are very busy working on that now."
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As a Texan, this is a big fear. And I'm sure it will happen somewhat. States never stay the same, particularly ones that are growing as fast as Texas. But I don't think it inevitable. Yes, people are moving to Texas from blue states, but many are cultural republicans (as many liberals will choose to live in blue cities) or business owners (natural republicans).
Further, Texas government is structurally different in that it meets once every other year. With no income tax, it makes it harder to prioritize spending. Texas also has a love for using its natural resources, and hard to see that changing anytime soon. Meaning, environmentalists will have a hard time making inroads.
So Texas will likely stay red for a while, particularly so long as Democrats are the party of the environmentalists.
I'm not too worried about the Castro's. They strike me as being lightweight. I'll take Ted Cruz agains them any day.
Posted by: SH at January 21, 2013 11:30 AM (gmeXX)
The Foxboro order was canceled because the Baltimore Ravens placed an even bigger order for an apocalypse to be named later
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Posted by: gigg at January 21, 2013 11:30 AM (41VCE)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 21, 2013 11:31 AM (GVxQo)
It actually began forming before his presidency. You can trace a lot of the ideological meat of the current Tea Party (especially on debt/deficit issues) to Perot voters.
Posted by: angler at January 21, 2013 03:26 PM (SwjAj)
erot voters gave us Clinton. Bush was a class one piece of shit, but compared to Clinton he was a knight in shining armor.
Perot was\is a loon.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 11:31 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: beachout at January 21, 2013 11:31 AM (LpQbZ)
You mean the republican national party.
I could see Perry eventually say "enough."
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 03:29 PM (LRFds)
In no way do I consider Perry a "Republican". He has balls, for starters.Posted by: tubal at January 21, 2013 11:31 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 21, 2013 03:20 PM (0It32)
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It's happened before. Even OK was solidly dem for a long time. If there will ever be a lone-standing red state, it'll probably be OK.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 11:32 AM (hBvAX)
Not overly stacked in the head embellishment, are they? Supposedly, the Castro bros' mother is a LaRaza reina.
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Has anyone heard anything positive about SMOD Depot?
Posted by: wiserbud at January 21, 2013 11:32 AM (gCa4h)
Posted by: Avi at January 21, 2013 11:32 AM (/ZEtn)
This blog has plenty of stockholm syndrome Republicans in Blue Land we need to concentrate and collapse into the sunbelt and make our stand.
I do not give three fucks if all of the blue states go full tard or not if we have good self-reliant people in the red states remaining to fight.
For fuck's sakes we either make sacrifices hold our noses and concentrate for hard political power or let these fucking punk ass pussy motherfucking donks take our land by being emo whiny ass bitch drama queens who guilt trip us into blowing our brains out as a nation.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:32 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: tasker at January 21, 2013 11:32 AM (r2PLg)
A divorce would require a modification to the Constitution. The only way I see that happening is enough blue states who want the Constitutional limitations gone join enough red States who want additional limitations imposed join together in calling a convention, that, once started reveals the uncrossable rift between states and they by 3/4 agreement agree to completely deconstitute and all states are set adrift to form new unions as they see fit.
I also don't see this realistically happening.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 11:33 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: gigg at January 21, 2013 03:29 PM (41VCE)
they exactly like a cancer
they eat up capitalist cells, blindly, I might add
they are attracted to low tax, pro-growth areas, but have no idea that their very existence destroys it
Posted by: beachout at January 21, 2013 03:31 PM (LpQbZ)
Again, reference Colorado. The damage there is complete.Posted by: tubal at January 21, 2013 11:33 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: Margarita who wishes she drank more at January 21, 2013 11:33 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 11:33 AM (l86i3)
This is just Rawls (Mostly as interpreted by Daniels) twisted into...well crap.
Daniels always saw "Freedom" as equivalent to opportunities. So if luck conspires against me and prevents me from say...becoming a doctor, I have lost opportunity (and thus freedom.)
And so, he believed that we should (as a community/grovernment) provide resources to ensure everyone had equal opportunity (and thus freedom.)
He was a "smart idiot." Smart in that he defends his position well. Idiot in that he never understood that to accomplish that you had to restrict other people's freedoms even more (i.e. through taxes.)
Freedom to fail is never considered in his theory (just as Rawls couldn't accept that people aren't always granted equal skill in all things.)
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Posted by: EC at January 21, 2013 11:34 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: gigg at January 21, 2013 11:35 AM (41VCE)
Disturbing isn't it. I remember laughing darkly at the bumpersticker: Don't blame me. I voted for Perot.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 21, 2013 03:28 PM (evdj2)
Perot voters are more to blame than are Clinton voters, who cannot help but be stupid fuckwits. Perot voters threw away the only possibility of keeping Clinton (Lying, Draft dodging, corrupt, communist sleezeball) out of office.
George HW Bush deserved to lose, but the country sure as hell didn't deserve to get asshole Clinton.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 11:35 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 03:29 PM (LRFds)
Texas is already so far gone, Perry has to throw a bone to a dream act thingy. With the Feds actively supporting illegal immigration, it is already over but the fat lady singing. If cons don't move south we will all hand separately.
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 11:35 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 21, 2013 11:35 AM (jE38p)
I could I see 2005 in my rear view mirror when they wanted to leave.
Mike we can sell peaceful divorce in the face of their immoral illegal immigration kick or we can tell them there will be blood.
I don't give a fuck which but I'd rather it be peaceful.
I was pondering something on the way to my meeting with the realtor.
The argument we're having as a nation?
Yeah both extremes were willing to risk nuclear war over the issues of rights and property.
Fuck Obama.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:35 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 11:35 AM (l86i3)
I did say "Perot voters," not "Perot himself." Many of his positions and ideas were stupid, and he likely cost Bush the election in '92.
Many people voted for Perot not necessarily because they liked him, or thought he was necessarily correct on the issues, but because he spoke directly and bluntly on matters everyone else was afraid to talk about. He was on the stage with two liars - one about not raising taxes and the other about, well, everything.
He stood up and said "This is crazy; we can't keep doing this anymore." I see a lot of that in the current Tea Party. I'm simply noting that what a lot of people were expressing by voting for Perot is being expressed today in the Tea Party.
Posted by: angler at January 21, 2013 11:35 AM (SwjAj)
Posted by: beachout at January 21, 2013 11:36 AM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 21, 2013 03:32 PM (0It32)
She is. Julian is rumored to have some corruption issues involving some contractors. Also, a bit light in the loafers perhaps.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 11:36 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at January 21, 2013 11:36 AM (Jcd0S)
As long as Texas conservatives take the present for granted, as long as they fail to get down on the ground and infiltrate the immigrant community, as long as they just chuckle about deep-blue enclaves, etc., etc., the Castro brothers' predictions will come true.
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I don't think that is true. Texas conservatives do fight. I don't think the Castro's prediction is going to come true for quite a while. There will be pockets of blue - the Valley and Austin, but that's about it.
Posted by: SH at January 21, 2013 11:36 AM (gmeXX)
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Posted by: teej at January 21, 2013 11:37 AM (Op+RR)
252...Even OK was solidly dem for a long time. If there will ever be a lone-standing red state, it'll probably be OK.
Yep, Soona.
The Dems here are afraid to even use the word 'Democrat' when they are running for office.
Sneaky fuckers.
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 11:37 AM (fH4X9)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 03:33 PM (l86i3)
Well, he's not an American (not even a birther statement), just like Bill Ayers is not an American. He's a cancer, the enemy. An oppressor, he's Oliver fucking Cromwell, another opportunist fanatic from an earlier age.
Posted by: tubal at January 21, 2013 11:37 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: Blacksheep at January 21, 2013 11:38 AM (bS6uW)
Well if your watch hadn't have been set 300 years fast in 600AD you'd know they aren't late at all. Your just early.
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Posted by: EC at January 21, 2013 11:38 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: SH at January 21, 2013 03:36 PM (gmeXX)
Another factor is that immigration from Mexico seems to have stalled significantly. I haven't had a decent yard guy in years.
But then, why would you cross in Texas when Cali gives you more free shit? Also, assuming that net migration is down (it is) then the extrapolation from the 2000 census the Castros are using will be wrong.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 11:39 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 03:33 PM (l86i3)
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You're not alone, OSP. I feel the same way. It's why I will consider it a total waste of money to go to those regions where most of those people reside. And that includes CO. I used to love going to CO.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 11:39 AM (hBvAX)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 11:39 AM (l86i3)
The Castros remind me a lot of Henry Cisneros. Supposed to be the bright light of the Dems, from San Antonio, photo ops with Clinton when he was running for President and President. Wasn't he made Sec of Labor? Then, sick kid, crazy wife going to voodoo type faith healers, and rumors of affairs out of control. I get more of a smarmy vibe off of them than I did Cisneros.
Perhaps they will self-destruct. But will anyone care? The public is not that shocked by scandal anymore
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Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2013 11:41 AM (9XBK2)
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Thanks Jones in CO!
Posted by: EC at January 21, 2013 11:42 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: tubal at January 21, 2013 03:33 PM (BoE3Z)
Yep. They take over a fiscal sane town. Run up the bond debt, and move on to destory the next town. Locusts in accurate. Financial locusts. And they can't be stopped because humans suck, and they are dumbasses.
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 11:42 AM (OQpzc)
277 268 Well,I hated Bill Clinton but that was more do to immaturity.
I still hate that sonuvabitch.
Politics turned into 'war' with his 'War Room'...and he single-handedly led us into the coarsening of our culture.
Clinton is the one who made 'shameless lying' into an art form, that is practiced today by the likes of the DNCmedia and the King Zero regime.
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 11:42 AM (fH4X9)
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 03:39 PM (t06LC)
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Wasn't it in the AoS morning news updates that had an article that said by 2015 (?) caucasians will be in the minority in CA?
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 11:42 AM (hBvAX)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 11:43 AM (l86i3)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 21, 2013 11:43 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: SH at January 21, 2013 03:36 PM (gmeXX)
Wishful thinking. Explain the creeping Blue of the counties bordering Mexico.
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 11:44 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: tubal at January 21, 2013 03:37 PM (BoE3Z)
I do not know if he's an American. (And I have researched this quite extensively.) What I do know is that he is not a "natural born citizen" in the manner that the founders understood it.
But nobody cares about following constitutional requirements anymore.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 11:44 AM (bb5+k)
@288
Yeah I see that. I don't think either of them is particularly bright. They happen to benefit from the fact that SA is mostly hispanic with the suburbs predominately white. There is really no other reason to give a SA mayor an interview on national tv. Wedged in pop. between Phoenix and San Diego, who cares?
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 11:44 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2013 11:45 AM (9XBK2)
182 Is there a best case scenario for the next four years?
I'm just hoping for cable TV in the gulags.
Posted by: wth at January 21, 2013 11:45 AM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 21, 2013 11:45 AM (jE38p)
I mean the great swathe of less political voters who aren't ideological enough to have strong opinions one way or the other, but who can tell the difference between a recession and an expansion.
I think the last Presidential election has already proved that statement wrong. There is a "great swathe" of people who have no political views, or any view beyond themselves, who not only voted for him, but also praised him for the great job he was doing fixing the country.
Posted by: JTwig at January 21, 2013 11:45 AM (/olGL)
Luck had nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at January 21, 2013 11:45 AM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: georgeofthedesert at January 21, 2013 11:46 AM (Eq2MX)
Posted by: Two Strippers Fighting Over a Dollar at January 21, 2013 11:46 AM (SzAZ7)
Wishful thinking. Explain the creeping Blue of the counties bordering Mexico.
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 03:44 PM (OQpzc)
Been there? Theyve always been like that too since the 40's. Hell, most of Texas was blue then.
In some of those counties, english is not the first language. Of course, they are low population as well with a few border citites. I do a lot of work there in the oilfield.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 11:46 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: Jake in ID at January 21, 2013 11:46 AM (jfSqj)
@HeyTammyBruce Reagan presided over Disneyland compared to the world today. Thanks for taking time to snark on such a great day.
Tammy Bruce Tammy Bruce @HeyTammyBruce
I'm sorry @redriding6, it's hard to understand you w ur head up ur ass. All I heard was "Prumph blerf slurf OBAMA!" #Caring
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 21, 2013 11:46 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 11:47 AM (l86i3)
Wishful thinking. Explain the creeping Blue of the counties bordering Mexico.
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Not every part of the state is going to be red. There are pockets of blue in Texas. But I'm not overly worried about a state takeover at this point. Partly because Texas conservatives do fight and don't take things for granted as the previous poster warned.
Posted by: SH at January 21, 2013 11:47 AM (gmeXX)
I never had a hatred for bill clinton. Never liked him, thought he was a POS. However, I never felt as though he set out to destroy the country. Bill did what was good for Bill and in the end, most of the time, it was what was good for the country.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 03:39 PM (l86i3)
I hated him with a blue purple passion from hell. Even so, he was still better than this guy we have now.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 11:47 AM (bb5+k)
He's an anarchist.
I think he has no interest in a better world. I think he knows his political point of view will produce a worse world for almost everyone -- especially those he claims to represent.
But he knows it will bring down the people he hates. And that's enough for him.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 21, 2013 11:48 AM (T0NGe)
A giant tsunami would fit in nicely with the celebration going on in DC.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 11:48 AM (UOM48)
Right there with you. I feel the same about their wives.
Posted by: pep at January 21, 2013 11:48 AM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2013 11:48 AM (9XBK2)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 03:45 PM (LRFds)
You were early. I never expected them to take over Texas, but I never thought the imperial government would betray the border this totally. I've no where else to run unless I leave the states for El Salvador, but I'd still have to go to war now that the US funded gangs are nearly in charge of there. We are losing and we refuse to even fight.
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 11:49 AM (OQpzc)
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 11:49 AM (t06LC)
I hated the draft dodging, dope smoking cocksucker and I felt naively at the time he was the worst the fucking mules could get elected because I felt foolishly that the union fucking democrats were patriots and one step further left would send them back to us like '80.
This ain't my father's America and my grandfather's America would be building Aircraft carriers to bomb us.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:49 AM (LRFds)
@HeyTammyBruce Reagan presided over Disneyland compared to the world today. Thanks for taking time to snark on such a great day.
Tammy Bruce Tammy Bruce @HeyTammyBruce
I'm sorry @redriding6, it's hard to understand you w ur head up ur ass. All I heard was "Prumph blerf slurf OBAMA!" #Caring
Damn, I love Tammy Bruce.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 11:50 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 21, 2013 11:50 AM (8sCoq)
"Is there a best case scenario for the next four years? What?
Total economic collapse followed by mass civil unrest that amongst chaos, starvation, attempts at a police state, unchecked crime and violence, and death, leads to the solidarity of the freedom movement which rises again from the ashes of a fallen nation to re-constitute itself as a free nation once again."
-OR...on the bright side:
We continue drowning in slow motion for another century until we're so ground down that we give up and our children and grandkids cannot be distinguished from today's North Korean drones.
...and we will worship our leaders for their greatness, generosity, wisdom, and strength in granting us our "freedom" to fuck whatever we want (consequence free), have a choice between chicken *or* vegetarian rations, and to have 250 HDTV channels with all the latest reality programming.
Posted by: Jaws at January 21, 2013 11:50 AM (4I3Uo)
WaPo says Barky's second term will be over sooner than we think, that he has about a year and a half to get things done before the 2014 midterms make congress go into election mode.
They said that like it was a bad thing. Ha.
Posted by: Boots at January 21, 2013 11:50 AM (oG66P)
I doubt it. Ben Parting brings the math and knew what he was talking about.
But you just keep buying your overlords lies.
I don't need to see their little presentations to know that nutcase conspiracy theorists who believe in every nutty conspiracy theory that crosses their desk really are nutty conspiracy theorists unworthy of being taken seriously.
But you go right ahead and assume that insane kooks like Ted Gunderson just so happen to be right about this particular nutty conspiracy theory, unlike all the other nutty conspiracy theories they also believe in.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 21, 2013 11:50 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 21, 2013 11:50 AM (evdj2)
Canada is stable, has great resources per population member, and is surging rightward.
Maybe we should illegal immigration Canada as Capitalist payback on the socialist ass Ontarians?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 11:51 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 21, 2013 11:51 AM (GFM2b)
Posted by: tubal at January 21, 2013 11:51 AM (BoE3Z)
Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2013 03:45 PM (9XBK2)
I don't think he pissed it away. I think the OK City thing drained away a lot of passion for changing the government. The political will evaporated in that explosion. The Media and Clinton certainly took advantage of it by demonizing anyone who argued the government was too big.
Any "anti-government" talk was linked to OKC fanatics.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 11:52 AM (bb5+k)
@330
My first thought. Best part is, in most of the wilds no one will screw with you because there is no one to screw with you.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 11:52 AM (t06LC)
STAY CALM AND CARRY ON
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 21, 2013 11:52 AM (8sCoq)
Posted by: sad in NJ at January 21, 2013 11:53 AM (LtnsN)
Wishful thinking. Explain the creeping Blue of the counties bordering Mexico
-- Been that way far as long as I can remember and will continue.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 21, 2013 11:53 AM (R8hU8)
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 03:46 PM (t06LC)
As a matter of fact I have. I felt like a minority. Did you know Brownsville was the first city in Texas to have a plastic bag ban? That's not mexican socialism, that is American commie.
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 11:53 AM (OQpzc)
When it comes to Obama's relationship with the media, I can't tell which one is real and which one is the inflatable doll
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 11:53 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: teej at January 21, 2013 11:53 AM (QbxUg)
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The said part of "he will fail" ..... is all the collateral damage "we" will experience.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 21, 2013 11:54 AM (nELVU)
I have a feeling that before this four years is over, one or more of us will fire a weapon in anger.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 03:47 PM (l86i3)
And he will use it like Hitler used the Reichstag fire. It's something I worry about.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 11:54 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: tasker at January 21, 2013 11:54 AM (r2PLg)
Whatta ya mean you didn't like His Highness' soaring rhetoric?
It was good for me. And everybody around was giving me plenty of room.
Posted by: Al Roker at January 21, 2013 11:54 AM (wAQA5)
Posted by: joncelli at January 21, 2013 11:54 AM (oprjK)
The Dems here are afraid to even use the word 'Democrat' when they are running for office.
Sneaky fuckers.
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 03:37 PM (fH4X9)
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When we turned red, it was quick. And I give all the credit to cleaning up and reforming the state election board.
I'm really surprised that states haven't taken our example of how to operate fair elections. Pride, unions, and laziness I guess.
Which was another reason this state is doing so well considering. Right to Work laws.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 11:55 AM (hBvAX)
I hated him, too. But two things:
1. I had a grudging admiration for his skill. (Sort of like the detective who is amazed by the skill and cunning of the serial killer he can't quite catch.) No one before or since could lie as often, or as well, as he did.
2. He was much more of a pragmatist than an ideologue. Often, he could be counted on to do the right thing, if only because it benefited him politically ("The era of big government is over," welfare reform).
Obama wasn't very pragmatic and will be even less so now. He's an ideologue to the core.
Posted by: angler at January 21, 2013 11:55 AM (SwjAj)
17% mortgage rates
unemployment through the roof
Russia flexing it's muscles all over the world.
Yeah, Reagan was handed a happy little bowl of ice cream when he was inaugurated...
Posted by: wiserbud at January 21, 2013 11:55 AM (gCa4h)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 21, 2013 11:56 AM (GVxQo)
Posted by: thunderb at January 21, 2013 11:56 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: tubal at January 21, 2013 11:57 AM (BoE3Z)
What to do, what to do?
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 21, 2013 11:57 AM (imtbm)
“It reminds me of another second inaugural, Lincoln’s, so much of Lincoln in that speech, from the Gettysburg Address to the second inaugural itself,” Matthews said. “He talked about the government that we want, which is infrastructure, education, regulation, all the good things, and then recognizing that government can’t solve all the problems.”
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 11:57 AM (UOM48)
msn's home page's headline on the speech:
a post partisan preezy spoke of putting aside partisan differences and governing on the principles on which our nation was founded.
"If the MFM says it, it must be true!" - thought bubble over the head of a LIV.
Posted by: kallisto at January 21, 2013 11:57 AM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 03:53 PM (OQpzc)
I go to the courthouse in Zavala County quite a bit. I noticed some books are missing from the deed records. Turns out in the 70's LaRaza took over teh courthouse and stole the books. They also ran the county in the ground, and I believe that it is the only county in the state to have gone bankrupt. Believe it or not, they have actually tilted right since then. (Not all the way, but its a pretty low bar)
Gotta enjoy that its the only place I've been where the McDonald's helpfully reminds people that courtesy cups are for water only. In english and spanish.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 11:58 AM (t06LC)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 21, 2013 11:58 AM (X11b6)
The only things that Clinton did that were...'good for the country'...were things that the Republicans in Congress forced him to do.
He was good at taking credit for all those things that he fought tooth-and-nail against.
Clinton actively engaged in 'outsourcing' jobs to other countries.
He sent Ron Brown on taxpayer provided junkets, all around the world...to encourage US companies to move their operations there.
Clinton kicked off the Housing Bubble, by encouraging banks to make subprime loans.
And since Citibank got sued by the JEF on behalf of Acorn...the banks were scared shitless not to make loans to people who couldn't afford them.
Clinton weakened our military...calling it the "Post Cold War Savings"...and led to us having to strengthen it, fast, after 9/11.
Whenever you have to get something done...fast...it always costs more.
Which led to increasing the deficit in the Bush years.
People tend to forget what a shitbird Clinton was.
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 11:58 AM (fH4X9)
She has a salient point. The Soviets were dangerous, but sane. They didn't want to get blowed up. Them having nuclear weapons was a manageable risk. Now Iran on the other hand. . .
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 11:59 AM (0q2P7)
STAY CALM AND CARRY ON
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 21, 2013 03:52 PM (8sCoq)
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You haven't seen the game yet? Hey, I'll go with the Ravens +6 for a K.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 11:59 AM (hBvAX)
Yes, but spending time trying to start a new one won't do it. Change the party we have to what we want, and then let others coalesce around it.
Posted by: pep at January 21, 2013 12:01 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: tasker at January 21, 2013 12:01 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2013 12:01 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at January 21, 2013 03:56 PM (ZKzrr)
Go look at all the events of 1973 and tell me you wouldn't have been building a bomb shelter. The fact that the Dems wanted to just surrender to the commies is an indication that they are commies. Reagan bought us some time, but we fucked it up.
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 12:01 PM (OQpzc)
With a name like Mr. Pink, I should think you'd rather enjoy it. Congratulations on your card-carrying membership in The Stupid Party. BTW, how's Boehner and McConnell working out for you? Ain't about what you know, Mr. Pink, it's about what you know that just ain't so.
Posted by: Rednomore at January 21, 2013 12:02 PM (L5acZ)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 21, 2013 12:02 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 03:47 PM (l86i3)"
I have no doubts about it.
They'll never admit it, but by their words and actions they're literally goading people into thinking about the unthinkable. They know that someone sooner or later will lose control and do something stupid. Then they can crank the ratchet down even tighter. Lather, rinse, repeat.
It's the distilled essence of evil.
Posted by: Jaws at January 21, 2013 12:02 PM (4I3Uo)
Leonardo DiCaprio claims "a normal person doesn't drive more than 31 miles a day," thus electric cars eleventy.
http://tinyurl.com/azb4ouz
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 12:02 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: SH at January 21, 2013 03:36 PM (gmeXX)
Wishful thinking. Explain the creeping Blue of the counties bordering Mexico.
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 03:44 PM (OQpzc)
The idea that a larger Hispanic population is going to turn Texas blue has been the hope of Dems for years. I'll agree, it's not *as* red as the rest of the country thinks, but liberals do not take into account:
1. Net migration from Mexico into the U.S. has been declining.
2. The Hispanic population in Texas is more conservative than elsewhere.
3. People are moving to Texas from other parts of the U.S. as well as Mexico. An annoying thing about liberals is that when they move after having f'ked up a state, they don't change their voting patterns which f'ked up the prior state to begin with. However, this doesn't seem to be a problem yet when it comes to immigration to Texas from the rest of the U.S.
Posted by: AD at January 21, 2013 12:02 PM (pcUFD)
Posted by: tasker at January 21, 2013 12:02 PM (r2PLg)
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Eh - I sort of think that it is an accomplishment for them to see a President be so nakedly a man of the Left, even if he engages in ideological crossdressing at times for the purpose of maintaining stealth.
And they have been quite remarkable in their ability to ignore the dissonance between his ideology and the results of his policies. They have propagandists like Krugman who allow them to pretend that things like the Stimulus were not failures of policy, but at a certain point the chasm between promise and performance should be apparent.
I suppose the silver lining is that this election reminds me so much of 2004 (inverted) which was the beginning of the end for the GOP. As long as people don't simply become acclimated to the "new normal" in the economy, I foresee that Democrats are likely to be very unpopular in 2014 and 2016.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 21, 2013 12:03 PM (Nfpnr)
This ain't my father's America and my grandfather's America would be building Aircraft carriers to bomb us.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 03:49 PM (LRFds)
Yup. The Demographics of this nation has changed for the worse. I blame the fact that people get so much of their news and entertainment from Television, and have so much less life experience from which to draw.
Television not only misinforms us regarding the actual news, it creates false memories of fake people's lives and how bad behavior is devoid of bad consequences.
Television has become a national drug and a national poison.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:04 PM (bb5+k)
I do that each way to work.
Fuck that miserable piece of shit. I'm so glad I know how to torrent.
Posted by: EC at January 21, 2013 12:05 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: tubal at January 21, 2013 03:51 PM (BoE3Z)
The Tea Party was harmed by our own side, the Republicans, who went along with the Democrats in using propoganda to marginalize them. If the Republicans had stood up for the Sarah Palin's of our party, we probably would not be in the position we are in. Working with the opposition to kill off a popular part of your party is never a good idea. Unless you want to lose.
Posted by: LiarsLiein NYC at January 21, 2013 12:05 PM (cxl8k)
Posted by: Two Strippers Fighting Over a Dollar at January 21, 2013 12:05 PM (SzAZ7)
and wouldn't it be nice if Albertans would finally get the Prairies and BC to say "fuck! enough" and tell Ontario and Quebec and the Maritimes to go fuck themselves?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 12:05 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: 80sBaby at January 21, 2013 12:05 PM (YjDyJ)
Huh. My understanding was that the Middle East was just a little messy in the late 70s/early 80s.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at January 21, 2013 12:06 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 21, 2013 12:06 PM (X11b6)
Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2013 12:06 PM (9XBK2)
If the total cost of ownership of an electric compared favorably with internal combustion I'd be there. It doesn't, they are WAY more expensive to own in the long run AND you give up a substantial amount of capability.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 12:07 PM (0q2P7)
You are correct, sir. It's like the aspiring flasher who's finally screwed up the courage for his first-time display on the subway. They've always wanted to do the things they're doing now, but were afraid to do so because of the consequences. Our only hope is that they overplay their hand as they usually do, and that folks will remember what they did, and that they can't be trusted around power or sharp objects.
Posted by: pep at January 21, 2013 12:07 PM (6TB1Z)
It was. But they weren't anywhere near getting nuclear weapons and taking that crazy on a world tour.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 12:08 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 04:04 PM (bb5+k)
It didn't do it to me and I ate my dinner as a kid on a TV tray. Its just a medium of entertainment. But as with drugs, interaction with other mediums may cause an adverse reaction. The news media is the drug that when mixed with anything causes bad side effects.
Posted by: polynikes at January 21, 2013 12:09 PM (m2CN7)
well rewatch "back to the future" then remember the writer was a lib who was admitting the Libyans were close to nukes...
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 12:09 PM (LRFds)
Television not only misinforms us regarding the actual news, it creates false memories of fake people's lives and how bad behavior is devoid of bad consequences.
Nice insight.
Posted by: pep at January 21, 2013 12:09 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 21, 2013 12:09 PM (X11b6)
I don't need to see their little presentations to know that nutcase conspiracy theorists who believe in every nutty conspiracy theory that crosses their desk really are nutty conspiracy theorists unworthy of being taken seriously.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 21, 2013 03:50 PM (SY2Kh)
Seems to be your go-to line for anything you regard as unworthy of interest.
I recall you slinging the "Conspiracy nut" accusation at anyone that wanted to see an actual birth certificate, despite the fact that the Jug Eared Fuck's own biography on his publisher's web page claimed that he was born in Kenya, and had so claimed for something like 15 years.
Yeah, anyone who wanted to question the asshole's credentials was a "conspiracy nut."
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:09 PM (bb5+k)
Drop him off in western Nebraska in a Fiskar and see how long it takes him to give up and call for a charter flight back out.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at January 21, 2013 12:09 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 21, 2013 12:10 PM (7ObY1)
2. The Hispanic population in Texas is more conservative than elsewhere.
I'd give you that mexicans who choose Texas over California are willing to work, but they will still vote Dem by the second generation. Because whores and welfare. It takes a saint, or an American to turn down free money.
Posted by: Invictus at January 21, 2013 12:10 PM (OQpzc)
385 OT, but Joan Rivers has declared Michelle's bangs to be a fashion "don't". But if this gets mentioned on her E! program I'll be shocked.
Those aren't bangs...they're a merkin.
You can put a merkin on a pig, but it's still a pig.
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 12:11 PM (fH4X9)
Posted by: gigg at January 21, 2013 12:11 PM (41VCE)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at January 21, 2013 04:06 PM (ZKzrr)
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The ME got messy when the colonials decided to unass the region. I'm sure there's many Europeans who are seeing that leaving those regions was a big mistake. There was at least some semblance of civilization when they were there.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 12:11 PM (hBvAX)
the funny thing are all the little retarded progs who think the left will not sell every drop of petrochem they can once they nationalize oil here.
I hate them.
I hated Ontario and Quebec's domination and control of the west when i live in Alberta, I hate the fucking urban cocksuckers.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 12:11 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 21, 2013 12:12 PM (X11b6)
Posted by: tubal at January 21, 2013 03:51PM (BoE3Z)
And whatever you replace it with will quickly be a damaged brand so long as the Media is run by Liberal Democrats from New York and Los Angeles. Sarah Palin is a damaged brand for a reason. Because those evil fuckers will viciously and repeatedly attack with lies and insinuations, ANYONE who challenges their narrative.
Till we have a Media Air force to compete with theirs, we cannot win this conflict.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:12 PM (bb5+k)
@400
I agree with that. Most have no f'n clue what the positions are, they just vote D. I would point you to the slowing demographics. If you wanted it to go negative, all you'd have to do is tie welfare to work. No more making babies as a full time job.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 12:12 PM (t06LC)
I also don't think that many folks realized how many of the messages the cyber denizens received would twist their view of the real world.
Posted by: pep at January 21, 2013 12:12 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 21, 2013 12:13 PM (GFM2b)
I know of course that used to be us as well.
Enjoy it while it lasts eh?
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 12:13 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Barack XVI, taking Air Force One out to get some deep-dish pizza at January 21, 2013 12:13 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at January 21, 2013 12:14 PM (X11b6)
Posted by: gigg at January 21, 2013 12:14 PM (41VCE)
Posted by: Professor DiCaprio at January 21, 2013 12:15 PM (SzAZ7)
@409
And yet, here I am. Talking to my cyberfriends. Ever wonder if I am real or a simulation? 101101101001001 lol!
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 12:15 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: t-bird at January 21, 2013 12:16 PM (FcR7P)
don't laugh I'd probably download my soul into the box if they made a decent enough RTK simulation.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 12:16 PM (LRFds)
Shouldn't you be busy petitioning the government to release the space aliens being held at Area 51?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 21, 2013 12:16 PM (SY2Kh)
http://is.gd/plSJav
The jokes, they write themselves.
He also noted that the Obamas seem to understand that the fashion industry is a driving force in the U.S. economy and that its lobby is a powerful one.
I...don't even know where to start there.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at January 21, 2013 12:17 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: angler at January 21, 2013 03:55 PM (SwjAj)
He had no skill. He had the Media who refused to focus on his lies, and directed all of their wrath at his opponents. Had he been required to deal with a hostile media in the way Reagan did, he would have quickly been pulled under the quicksand. He was a lying sack of shit con artist that anyone with a lick of sense could see was a lying fucking con-artist, but because the Media would run in like the cavalry at every sign of trouble for him, he got away with it.
What you are calling "skill" was none of his doing, but was entirely the doing of the Media who covered up his nasties and protected his ass. Had they been hostile, he would have been toast.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:17 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: polynikes at January 21, 2013 04:09 PM (m2CN7)
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The devil's mix came with leftist tv, movies, coupled with warped K thru grad school public marxist indoctrination centers. Falsely known as public education.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 12:17 PM (hBvAX)
Posted by: Two Strippers Fighting Over a Dollar at January 21, 2013 12:17 PM (SzAZ7)
industry is a driving force in the U.S. economy and that its lobby is a
powerful one.
I...don't even know where to start there.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at January 21, 2013 04:17 PM (ZKzrr)
He probably just watched Zoolander and is trying to stay on their good side.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 12:18 PM (t06LC)
"Our local Rush Limbaugh, Tom Bauerle, has been calling for a peaceful *divorce* since the morning of Sept. 7th, complete with playing old Rebel fight songs on his radio show.
And I am in DEEP blue New Yorkistan."
IMO, the D-Word is the key.
Divorce is an accepted and cherished institution on the Left. They understand it. They've lived it. Calling it a National Divorce could be the one and only way to keep us from eventually spilling each other's blood again.
Keep the word Secession back in the 1860's.
Posted by: Jaws at January 21, 2013 12:19 PM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 04:17 PM (hBvAX)
It was the schools that did us in. A republic requires virtue. Our society is bankrupt here.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 12:19 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at January 21, 2013 12:20 PM (evdj2)
When John Boehner was asked if putting a radical leftist in as President, and stocking his administration with Maoists and assorted Communists he said "Uh, well, we have procedures."
Posted by: Rev dr E buzz at January 21, 2013 12:20 PM (raGXo)
Leonardo DiCaprio claims "a normal person doesn't drive more than 31 miles a day," thus electric cars eleventy.
http://tinyurl.com/azb4ouz
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 04:02 PM (UOM4
Did his chauffeur tell him how much he drives a day?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2013 12:20 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at January 21, 2013 12:20 PM (dvRYt)
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 04:17 PM (hBvAX)
I agree with the mix but remember, Hollywood has always been leftist. And at one time Communist.
Posted by: polynikes at January 21, 2013 12:20 PM (m2CN7)
After all this shit and nowing I have four more yers of this,
Guess whose sooooo happy they still have a vocidon scrpit today
With reffils
Ill give y a hint
DIMENSTIONS
Posted by: CAC at January 21, 2013 12:20 PM (aYKjq)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 21, 2013 12:20 PM (o1kXv)
I have never hated an American President before. I have never hated half of my fellow citizens. I do now.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 03:33 PM (l86i3)
Ditto
Hate isn't a strong enough word for how I feel about the whole situation. 1441 days to go, and each one will bring a fresh Hell.
Posted by: ALH at January 21, 2013 12:21 PM (eqV3Q)
He also noted that the Obamas seem to understand that the fashion industry is a driving force in the U.S. economy and that its lobby is a powerful one. They don't treat fashion frivolously, he observed.
But Collins said he was a bit surprised the public doesn't pay much attention to the president's wardrobe. He joked that Obama should perhaps try one of Browne's signature shrunken suits -- the ones that show a man's ankles.
Oh, how I wish TFG would wear a stupid hipster suit. Perfect!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 12:21 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Lauren at January 21, 2013 12:21 PM (wsGWu)
People tend to forget what a shitbird Clinton was.
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 03:58 PM (fH4X9)
I had forgotten none of the things you mentioned, and I'm glad you brought them up to remind others what a horrible piece of shit Clinton was, and you didn't even get into the part about him giving American Missile technology to the Chinese, and halting the mining of Anthracite coal in Utah, and taking foreign bribe money, etc.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:21 PM (bb5+k)
Yup..."divorce" tell 'em we'll take over 66% of the "debt" and bail them out if inclined if they get invaded, we get the nukes they hate and the carriers.
Divorce, tell them they can adverstise 'free shit for all" and we'll advertise "work coming soon."
I did not pray for the soviets to fall for 17 years of my life to become them.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 12:21 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Mike the Moose. at January 21, 2013 03:59 PM (0q2P7)
I've said that for years. Mutually Assured Destruction only works on non-Religious fanatics.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:22 PM (bb5+k)
there's a difference?
Posted by: wiserbud at January 21, 2013 12:23 PM (gCa4h)
Guess whose sooooo happy they still have a vocidon scrpit today
With reffils
Ill give y a hint
DIMENSTIONS
Posted by: CAC at January 21, 2013 04:20 PM (aYKjq
Here we go again...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 12:23 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Rev dr E buzz at January 21, 2013 04:20 PM (raGXo)
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I think that's why the old repubs are constantly losing the congressional battles. They value "process" more than they do the Constitution.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 12:23 PM (hBvAX)
Hell declare America a fucking anarchy for all I care...
they are going to destroy us like the left destroyed England....import foreign shit to vote for free shit and destroy our culture.
If Juan and Sal the Somali get to come let EVERYONE come.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 12:24 PM (LRFds)
426...IMO, the D-Word is the key.
Divorce is an accepted and cherished institution on the Left. They understand it. They've lived it. Calling it a National Divorce could be the one and only way to keep us from eventually spilling each other's blood again.
Keep the word Secession back in the 1860's.
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I like that concept....'We want a Divorce!'
But how do we avoid 'losing the house' and getting put in jail for non-payment of child support?
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 12:24 PM (fH4X9)
Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2013 12:24 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Deli LLama at January 21, 2013 12:24 PM (lGu1O)
Posted by: Two Strippers Fighting Over a Dollar at January 21, 2013 12:24 PM (SzAZ7)
You can put a merkin on a pig, but it's still a pig.
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 04:11 PM
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What does her Landing Strip have to say about this?
Posted by: Lurking Flanuer at January 21, 2013 12:25 PM (bzw/I)
Posted by: Margarita who wishes she drank more at January 21, 2013 12:25 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: gigg at January 21, 2013 12:25 PM (41VCE)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 12:25 PM (l86i3)
accept that we will have to take a big % of the debt, and they will demand we sign a piece of paper guaranteeing their safety.
Hell it is the relationship we have with EUrope.
The bright side is we could start getting assertive in THIS hemisphere against Chavez and Castro.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 12:26 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Jaws at January 21, 2013 04:02 PM (4I3Uo)
I think Rush Limbaugh proffered the theory that they are intentionally goading people into overstepping so that they can use an incident to increase and consolidate their power. They are hoping for an OKC like event.
It has also been suggested that if they can't push someone into it, they will do it themselves and blame it on the opposition, aka "the Reichstag fire."
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:26 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2013 12:27 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 04:23 PM (UOM4
again?
Wait did thsi day happen before
Posted by: CAC at January 21, 2013 12:27 PM (aYKjq)
Posted by: beachout at January 21, 2013 12:27 PM (LpQbZ)
"Then, as you point out, thereÂ’s the horrible strawman argument about 'no single person.' This is a rhetorical constant of ObamaÂ’s presidency. The choice is always between the atomized individual or the loving embrace of federal government in Washington. Either JuliaÂ’s all alone, or the government has got her back. Any acknowledgment that civil society, families, the free market etc are collective enterprises is always omitted from the equation."
Posted by: 80sBaby at January 21, 2013 12:27 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: polynikes at January 21, 2013 04:20 PM (m2CN7)
There were always a lot of lefties in Hollywood but back in the day there were a number of conservatives like John Wayne, Robert Taylor, Gary Cooper etc. who were anti-commies. And a number of studio bosses (minus the Warner Bros.) weren't big on leftist movies or messages. You have none of that today. Now it's pure, unopposed liberalism
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2013 12:27 PM (1Jaio)
Oh I despised Clinton and still do. What's different is I didn't quite despise the people who voted for him like I do those that voted for Obama.
And I dislike Clinton and Obama for different reasons. Clinton is a sneaky, narcissistic pyschopath savant and Obama is an American hating narcissistic socialist racist victim dumbass.
Posted by: polynikes at January 21, 2013 12:28 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: gigg at January 21, 2013 12:28 PM (41VCE)
Posted by: EC at January 21, 2013 04:05 PM (GQ8sn)
I encourage everyone to do anything they can to deprive American Liberal film makers of any possible revenue.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:28 PM (bb5+k)
I like that concept....'We want a Divorce!'
Buthow do we avoid'losing the house' and getting put in jail for non-payment of child support?
We'd lose our shirt, but, gain the freedom to make lotsa shirts.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 12:28 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2013 12:29 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: 80sBaby at January 21, 2013 04:27 PM (YjDyJ)
boils the blood. Already have a social infrastructure, but lets destroy that for some promises wished up out of the ether.
Ether sounds promising right now.
Posted by: CAC at January 21, 2013 12:29 PM (aYKjq)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 12:29 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 21, 2013 12:29 PM (Vk2pI)
Posted by: beachout at January 21, 2013 12:29 PM (LpQbZ)
Posted by: LiarsLiein NYC at January 21, 2013 04:05 PM (cxl8k)
I agree. There are a bunch of Republican operatives who need a good ass beating. I encourage everyone to punch them in the face should you ever encounter them.
Schmidt and Wallace come to mind.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:30 PM (bb5+k)
455 447 Wheatie,
accept that we will have to take a big % of the debt, and they will demand we sign a piece of paper guaranteeing their safety.
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I would rather do what the Banks do...and buy it at a discount.
Like, 50¢ on the dollar.
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 12:30 PM (fH4X9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 21, 2013 04:29 PM (UOM4
R
Posted by: CAC at January 21, 2013 12:30 PM (aYKjq)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at January 21, 2013 12:32 PM (21TJo)
Pretty much.
They are like the people who bugchase a Mad max scenario for the collapse in the Luap Nor cult...
hey fellas you are either a bukll or a cow and fate doesn't promise which....
I know enough to not want it, but if it is to be "anarchy" let's get the Russian mafia here too at least i can buy the ability to use my property from them.
I hate the fucking left.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 12:32 PM (LRFds)
Gary Sinise, Bruce Willis, Adam Sandler, Angie Harmon, James Woods, Kelsey Grammer, Vince Vaughn, David Zucker, Janine Turner....
Posted by: Bill Clinton at January 21, 2013 12:32 PM (gCa4h)
Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2013 04:29 PM (9XBK2)
He should have pushed that commie c*cksucker Burt Lancaster out the nearest window
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2013 12:33 PM (1Jaio)
It has also been suggested that if they can't push someone into it, they will do it themselves and blame it on the opposition, aka "the Reichstag fire."
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 04:26 PM (bb5+k)
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I don't think the "Reichtag fire" will be a single event, but a series of events. Newtown is the kindling. They're using it to start bigger fires.
There will be several of these events. All they have to do is wait.....and goad.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 12:33 PM (hBvAX)
"In several places in ObamaÂ’s address he makes the case that government is what, in effect, gives you freedom. That is what he is driving at when he says near the beginning of the speech, 'history tells us that while these truths may be self-evident, theyÂ’ve never been self-executing. That while freedom is a gift from God, it must be secured by his people here on earth.' And the way you secure those freedoms, Obama says over and over again, is through more government efforts and programs. "
Posted by: 80sBaby at January 21, 2013 12:33 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: polynikes at January 21, 2013 12:34 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: polynikes at January 21, 2013 04:09 PM (m2CN7)
But your experience overlooks the fact that not all people share the same degree of susceptibility to drugs. What was a harmless dosage to you, likely caused a fatal liberal dominated world view in others.
Some people can handle fake reality and deal accordingly. Others can't. Their votes count anyway.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:34 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 12:34 PM (l86i3)
http://is.gd/gHxNtu
I have no idea why this is so funny, other than it's time for me to go home and get my inebriation on.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a Flaming Moe at January 21, 2013 12:34 PM (ZKzrr)
"Buthow do we avoid'losing the house' and getting put in jail for non-payment of child support? "
Those little bastards ain't mine. Here's some DNA, Barky.
My wife and I are willing to walk away from our paid for house and sign over our Social Security "accounts" for a real opportunity to start over in a truly free country. Hell, my forefathers walked away from their European shitholes a century or more ago with nothing. The only difference is that they actually had somewhere to go. We'd have to carve it out of the present clusterfuck.
Posted by: Jaws at January 21, 2013 12:34 PM (4I3Uo)
Valid point.
I guess I was just thinking more about today's anti-American leftists, not the traditional, or Classic, liberals.
Posted by: wiserbud at January 21, 2013 12:34 PM (gCa4h)
by taking ever increasing percentages of your national work and "spreading it around to those who won't work."
Which is immoral all its own, now add in the fact they actively try to kill industry.
Get it they need kneecapped.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 12:34 PM (LRFds)
But your experience overlooks the fact that not all people share the same degree of susceptibility to drugs. What was a harmless dosage to you, likely caused a fatal liberal dominated world view in others.
Some people can handle fake reality and deal accordingly. Others can't. Their votes count anyway.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 04:34 PM (bb5+k)
And then there are those who driftin in a series of alternate realities.
Posted by: CAC at January 21, 2013 12:35 PM (aYKjq)
Posted by: CarolT at January 21, 2013 12:35 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 21, 2013 12:35 PM (KL49F)
461...And a number of studio bosses (minus the Warner Bros.) weren't big on leftist movies or messages. You have none of that today. Now it's pure, unopposed liberalism
Actually, the two original Warner Bros...the older ones...who were responsible for pioneering the 'talkies'...were quite conservative.
It was their worthless younger brother, playboy Jack Warner, who stabbed the oldest brother in the back and took over the studio...who was the big liberal.
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 12:35 PM (fH4X9)
Fast and Furious was meant to be kindling but nobody paid much attention. Newtown was a gift to the Left.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2013 12:35 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at January 21, 2013 12:36 PM (21TJo)
Gorebull warming is a false hope....if it was real I'd crawl to the Yukon or Northwest terrs or antarctica.
Asshole libs.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 12:36 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: Confused lib at January 21, 2013 12:36 PM (gCa4h)
Posted by: ejo at January 21, 2013 12:36 PM (GXvSO)
True, but my list was to show who we can support instead.
Especially Angie Harmon and Janine Turner.
rowr...
Posted by: wiserbud at January 21, 2013 12:37 PM (gCa4h)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 12:37 PM (LRFds)
Posted by: MTF at January 21, 2013 12:37 PM (+GpbP)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 21, 2013 12:37 PM (GFM2b)
YES Brother! Speak it! Did you hear the chocolate ration is going up under our glorious wise leader? Tis for thee brother. Tis for thee.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 12:37 PM (0q2P7)
Schmidt and Wallace come to mind.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 04:30 PM (bb5+k)
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I'll keep it local. Hollowpoint comes to mind.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 12:37 PM (hBvAX)
Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2013 12:38 PM (9XBK2)
beating up on labor, in the grand tradition of pols in service of Wall Street and Big Corporate
I bet the retard doesn't even see the irony in his choice of words.
Posted by: polynikes at January 21, 2013 12:39 PM (m2CN7)
The Tea Party was harmed by our own side, the
Republicans, who went along with the Democrats in using propoganda to marginalize them. If the Republicans had stood up for the Sarah Palin's of our party, we probably would not be in the position we are in. Working with the opposition to kill off a popular part of your party is never a good idea. Unless you want to lose.
Posted by: LiarsLiein NYC at January 21, 2013 04:05 PM (cxl8k)
If only all the NYC republicans learned this lesson...
Posted by: jwest at January 21, 2013 12:39 PM (ZDsRL)
Gee, I remember all those keen Soviet watchers beings shocked as fuck when it collapsed.
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 21, 2013 12:40 PM (q33yg)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 21, 2013 04:35 PM (QKKT0)
Newton is already beginning to die down. All the left needs is another nut to try something that happens about twice a year on average. Then the calls will start up again. Conservatives should get out in front and start saying what will help and why these measures won't. But, I don't think they are that smart.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 21, 2013 12:40 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 12:40 PM (l86i3)
Shouldn't you be busy petitioning the government to release the space aliens being held at Area 51?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 21, 2013 04:16 PM (SY2Kh)
And there you go again. Ad Hominem is your Modus operandi.
Time and time again, I point out that one guy lying and 50 state election officials not doing their job, does not constitute a conspiracy, and your little silly ass comes back with "Space Aliens in Area 51" or some other childish bullshit.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:40 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: CAC at January 21, 2013 04:35 PM (aYKjq)
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*runs to find tin-foil hat*
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 12:41 PM (hBvAX)
I bet the retard doesn't even see the irony in his choice of words.
Posted by: polynikes at January 21, 2013 04:39 PM (m2CN7)
Don't interrupt an ignorant fuck when he's pissing in his canteen.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 21, 2013 12:41 PM (vDbBE)
399 Our local Rush Limbaugh, Tom Bauerle, has been calling for a peaceful divorce since the morning of Sept. 7th, complete with playing old Rebel fight songs on his radio show.
And I am in DEEP blue New Yorkistan.
Posted by: BlueStateRepub at January 21, 2013 04:10 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Pyrocles at January 21, 2013 12:42 PM (cv5Iw)
Posted by: wiserbud at January 21, 2013 04:37 PM (gCa4h)
sorry wiser my post was not directed at you. I was defending the act of watching TV today. Some have contended that it has brainwashed our kids. I say that TV alone has not done that. Only in combination with the real culprit, MSM, has TV become arguably harmful.
Posted by: polynikes at January 21, 2013 12:43 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2013 04:24 PM (9XBK2)
Had the media hammered that shit, he would have been hammered shit.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:44 PM (bb5+k)
Buzzfeed's Ben Smith Thinks Obama Can Be Reagan Absent Any Actual Accomplishments...
Why not? He was awarded the Nobel Price Prize absent any actual accomplishments.
Posted by: Lily at January 21, 2013 12:45 PM (igSv+)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 21, 2013 12:45 PM (UgFxe)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 12:45 PM (l86i3)
He took a shot at Rep. Ryan on that point in his address.
Which is immoral all its own, now add in the fact they actively try to kill industry.
Destruction is the means by which they retain their power.
Posted by: 80sBaby at January 21, 2013 12:45 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: steevy at January 21, 2013 12:46 PM (9XBK2)
Posted by: polynikes at January 21, 2013 12:46 PM (m2CN7)
Thus they fail.
Thus they must ever fight against the conspiracy of their own incompetence creating their inevitable failure.
Progressivism really is a personality driven mental disease.
Doublethink is a powerful weapon against reality.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Offering Moobats Gasoline and Matches at January 21, 2013 12:46 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 21, 2013 12:47 PM (KL49F)
Buzzfeed is such a perfect place for Ben with the rest of the gossipy wankers who have shit for brains.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 21, 2013 12:47 PM (vDbBE)
520...So who is the real enemy? I say the leftist media.
Yep. That's who my seething hatred is for.
They have made a mockery of freedom of speech...and turned it into 'freedom to lie'.
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 12:48 PM (fH4X9)
Posted by: Margarita who wishes she drank more at January 21, 2013 12:48 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Chilin the most at January 21, 2013 12:48 PM (6IV8T)
Posted by: Margarita who wishes she drank more at January 21, 2013 04:25 PM (C8mVl)
Joan Rivers said one of the funniest things I can remember. When asked about some Actress who wanted to adopt an African child, but was concerned about keeping the child in contact with his cultural heritage, Joan Rivers said:
" Lock him in a hot room and throw in a jar of flies! "
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:48 PM (bb5+k)
It's like a visit to Reality Heights.
Posted by: K-Bob at January 21, 2013 12:48 PM (+hBHL)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 21, 2013 12:49 PM (o1kXv)
That'd be nice, but they want to destroy us not to make more thing better and help more live well, they want to burn us to burn us.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 12:50 PM (LRFds)
Didn't Ron Brown die in a plane crash? Hmmm.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 04:25 PM (l86i3)
Something like 50 of Clintons friends and associates died under mysterious circumstances. Look up Clinton Dead pool or some such, and you can see how many weird deaths occurred in relation to Bill Clinton and Co.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:50 PM (bb5+k)
"Throughout his address, the President maintained his voice in a near-shout"
Holy Shoutin' SCOAMF's Batman!
Posted by: K-Bob at January 21, 2013 12:50 PM (+hBHL)
Posted by: Margarita who wishes she drank more at January 21, 2013 12:51 PM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 12:51 PM (l86i3)
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True. The Studios made overtly pro-American/pro-family/pro-religion movies for a mass audience. I seriously doubt that "Going My Way" or "It's a Wonderful Life" could find their way to the big screen today.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 21, 2013 12:52 PM (Nfpnr)
Posted by: K-Bob at January 21, 2013 12:52 PM (+hBHL)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 21, 2013 12:52 PM (KL49F)
So right. Your Grandpa could beat up Barack's Grandpa. Both of 'em.
Posted by: K-Bob at January 21, 2013 12:54 PM (+hBHL)
Will Barry be successful in his second term?
Yes, he has the support of the country.
No, his plans are too ambitious.
How about - No, his plans will lead to ruination
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2013 12:54 PM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 12:54 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 21, 2013 04:52 PM (Nfpnr)
Again you are talking about movies made in the 40's. Over 70 years ago. Look at the Academy awards over the last 50 years.
Posted by: polynikes at January 21, 2013 12:54 PM (m2CN7)
No, the Left won't get Michigan in a splitup. Michigan has been banging out some really fine, anti-SCOAMF laws lately.
Can we at least give them Detroit?
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 21, 2013 12:55 PM (o1kXv)
Heh, yeah, that's why I like watching it with the kids of my lib friends.
They start repeating the stupid shit their parents say and I give them the rest of the story and ask if they still feel that way.
Straightened one out yesterday by asking if he believed that a person who defends allowing "failed" abortions (aka live babies) to die, then turns around and says "if only one child is saved from my actions...
That was a POV he wold have never gotten at home. From his Catholic parents.
Posted by: wiserbud at January 21, 2013 12:55 PM (gCa4h)
It was their worthless younger brother, playboy Jack Warner, who stabbed the oldest brother in the back and took over the studio...who was the big liberal.
Posted by: wheatie at January 21, 2013 04:35 PM (fH4X9)
Sounds about right.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:55 PM (bb5+k)
So if the left is ultimately successful, and all is destroyed, what follows?
Raw naked power. It's what they've wanted all along.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 21, 2013 12:56 PM (o1kXv)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 12:56 PM (l86i3)
Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 21, 2013 04:52 PM (Nfpnr)
Also I can name a dozen or more overtly American and pro family/ religion movies made in last decade. It doesn't mean that Hollywood has not been on the left for the past 50 years. I can't believe I have to argue that point on this site.
Posted by: polynikes at January 21, 2013 12:57 PM (m2CN7)
I'll keep it local. Hollowpoint comes to mind.
Posted by: Soona at January 21, 2013 04:37 PM (hBvAX)
Is there some way I can contact you? I would like to talk at length.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 12:57 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: walknot at January 21, 2013 12:58 PM (vo2je)
Raw naked power.
What then will run the country, and how will it produce that which is necessary?
Posted by: irongrampa at January 21, 2013 12:59 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 12:59 PM (l86i3)
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Yeah, I sometimes think I know what those poor blindfolded-and-on-their-knees prisones, about to be exeuted by the Taliban, must feel like.
Then I read Mark Levin urging us to hit back twice as hard, and I get back on my feet.
Posted by: Obama delenda est at January 21, 2013 12:59 PM (HVtRc)
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Perhaps because I'm addressing the proposition that "Hollywood has always been Left" and by extension subversive of American values.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 21, 2013 01:01 PM (Nfpnr)
So who is the real enemy? I say the leftist media.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon.
http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 04:45 PM (l86i3)
Yes. They need to be beaten down into a bloody pulp, then we need to burn that with gasoline.
The media (Liberal Democrats disguised as reporters and entertainers) are the enablers of Liberal governance. They keep distorting the truth in such a way as to make the good guys look evil, and the evil guys look good.
Till we come up with an effort to kneecap them, we are not going to win. Conservatives have to create alternative and popular alternatives to liberal news and entertainment. We can't just talk at people, we have to inform them while we entertain them.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 01:03 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. http://tinyurl.com/ahc8poj at January 21, 2013 01:03 PM (l86i3)
It's just that conservatives CAN'T "get out in front."
The left controls the microphones.
Posted by: Margarita who wishes she drank more at January 21, 2013 04:48 PM (C8mVl)
Since America can now be addressed only through television, they are in fact denying conservatives the ability to speak to the American people because they refuse to grant us access to the only means of doing so.
The Left Censors our speech. We should not tolerate it.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at January 21, 2013 01:06 PM (bb5+k)
So if the left is ultimately successful, and all is destroyed, what follows?Posted by: irongrampa at January 21, 2013 04:53 PM (SAMxH)
I have a book you might want to read.
Posted by: Thomas Hobbes at January 21, 2013 01:08 PM (OixJo)
reminded me of President Camacho
http://tinyurl.com/be5dfru
Posted by: wiserbud at January 21, 2013 01:08 PM (gCa4h)
Posted by: Fritz at January 21, 2013 01:09 PM (w3+gB)
Posted by: Deety at January 21, 2013 01:15 PM (aOVhq)
Thomas Hobbes, if that book is Atlas Shrugged it's already been read.
It was going to be the answer to my question of what then.
The last few chapters describe our demise, if the left is ultimately successful. I don't think it would even take a year to happen.
Posted by: irongrampa at January 21, 2013 01:15 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Aud at January 21, 2013 01:15 PM (PGpgl)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 21, 2013 04:49 PM (o1kXv)
Should right/left differences become untenable and irreconcilable, I strongly doubt a split-up would occur along state boundaries. Just as Lincoln said regarding the pro-slavery/abolitionist divisions during the first (and hopefully only) Civil War, we'll be all one thing or all another. Further, I doubt your divorce analogy holds up, either. You act as if there would be two adults in the room, calmly discussing division of property. Ever been divorced yourself? Amicable divorces are the stuff of myth and legend: often talked about but never seen or experienced firsthand.
Posted by: troyriser at January 21, 2013 01:16 PM (vtiE6)
Ace, Obama has accomplished a lot, it's just not stuff you think highly of.
The FSA, on the other hand, thinks he has done a lot. They like the part about getting to stay on parents health plan until 26. They like the student loan credit. They like unemployment forever - or at least until you can roll on to SS disability, which is (apparently) easier than ever to qualify for. They like Obama phones. They like expanded Medicare and CHiP. They like the millions upon billions upon trillions of slush fund money, out there rolling around for the agencies to blow on crap we don't need (but that the well-connected have figured out how to tap into). They like how easy Obama has made it for low- to no-information individuals to get on the dole (I heard a commercial on how to get on CHiP and how to get an Obama phone just on my drive in to work). They hear they're getting free health care and free contraception (whether they understand that "free" means "paid for by somebody, just maybe not you" is anyone's guess).
Even those who aren't actively a part of the FSA THINK that Obama has done a lot. They think he has defeated a bunch of evil conservatives who would GASP demand that they take responsibility for their actions and pay their own way. The last thing an Obama voter wants is for some conservative - like their PARENTS, for heaven's sake - to tell them that they are not behaving morally - or worse, make them feel guilty or bad about themselves. A few are under the impression that Obama has saved them from "greedy corporations," whatever that means.
What I see that Obama has done is convert "envy" from one of the seven deadly sins into a governing philosophy. Now that the leader of the free world has told the masses that it's not only OK to covet what the top of the heap has, and not only that it's not their fault that they don't have all the same things, but that what the top of the heap has belongs to everybody ("you didn't build that"), I think he's fundamentally changed the American psyche in a way that's probably not fixable. Genie, bottle, you know the rest.
Posted by: the other coyote at January 21, 2013 01:22 PM (yK44T)
yes we know you're happy enough with what is happening.
You do understand that the extreme wings of left and right were willing to atomize the planet if need be?
You think I will cave to them happily or shrug as they import foreigners by the boatload to tip the balance?
I will either fight if enough agree or leave and pray they get the results of their folly.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 01:23 PM (LRFds)
and if we don't concentrate you are dead on and we become at best a central american shithole and at worst "worker's paradise" without "workers" until he starts killing people.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 01:25 PM (LRFds)
571 sven
All it will take is someone on the right who's "cool" and who connects with people. I thought Romney actually had that ability, based on stories from people who actually know him. What he didn't have was someone to help him find his way around the media directly to the American people (I'm looking at you, sucky campaign staffers).
Frankly it's going to take someone younger and more technologically savvy. Rubio springs to mind as someone who can actually connect with people; I heard him on Levin's show years ago and was impressed at how easygoing he seemed. Ryan, on the other hand, looked like a deer in the headlights during the debates. I could have done better than that.
Kasich used to be able to talk to people on camera, but I haven't seen him "perform" in a while. Don't know enough about Rand Paul to speculate.
Posted by: the other coyote at January 21, 2013 01:32 PM (yK44T)
Posted by: the other coyote at January 21, 2013 01:36 PM (yK44T)
Oh and Michael J. Fox is the most beloved guy on TV - a kid who is a financial whiz, making money. Second most beloved? Probably Charles In Charge, a guy working his way through school (not taking out student loans). Working, being responsible, being moral, not taking crap that isn't yours, not expecting other people to pay your way ... all themes of the TV shows I watched in the 1980's (with the notable exception of Fantasy Island, which I watched every other Saturday night during a 3 year babysitting gig, which was about getting Mr. Roarke to give you free sh*t; and Dallas, which involved one lying, cheating jackhole that you loved to hate. Bobby, on the other hand, worked for everything.).
Posted by: the other coyote at January 21, 2013 01:40 PM (yK44T)
Posted by: Deety at January 21, 2013 01:43 PM (aOVhq)
Posted by: USNA1985 at January 21, 2013 01:51 PM (kf3LW)
Posted by: TexasJew at January 21, 2013 02:11 PM (lD8ju)
Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 21, 2013 04:52 PM (Nfpnr)
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Hell, you couldn't make 'Blazing Saddles' today.
Posted by: RickZ at January 21, 2013 02:40 PM (3o0hi)
yes we know you're happy enough with what is happening.
You do understand that the extreme wings of left and right were willing to atomize the planet if need be?
You think I will cave to them happily or shrug as they import foreigners by the boatload to tip the balance?
I will either fight if enough agree or leave and pray they get the results of their folly.
Posted by: sven10077 at January 21, 2013 05:23 PM (LRFds)
Not happy at all with the way things are going, thanks, but I don't play out detailed post-apocalyptic scenarios in my head, either. Truth is, the country has endured bad presidents before without resorting to bloodshed and civil war. We'll (almost certainly) weather this administration, as well. Without shooting each other.
History plays out the way it plays out. Lots of people try to predict it beforehand. Few get it right.
Posted by: troyriser at January 21, 2013 02:42 PM (vtiE6)
Posted by: sb at January 21, 2013 04:20 PM (j0MFs)
Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at January 21, 2013 05:14 PM (1FLBb)
True. The Studios made overtly pro-American/pro-family/pro-religion movies for a mass audience. I seriously doubt that "Going My Way" or "It's a Wonderful Life" could find their way to the big screen today.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 21, 2013 04:52 PM (Nfpnr)
For fucks sakes, 'Its a Wonderful Life' could have easily have been named 'It Takes A Village'.
Hollywood has never done us any favors.
Posted by: Dead Thread King at January 21, 2013 05:44 PM (fDGF1)
Posted by: wankette at January 21, 2013 09:16 PM (kSBJy)
Posted by: G. Orwell at January 22, 2013 05:26 AM (8GA+4)
Posted by: Federale at January 22, 2013 08:14 AM (aO1W9)
Posted by: CarolT at January 22, 2013 01:18 PM (z4WKX)
What is the belly aching about? The fools who told us Romney was the ideal candidate caused this. Those who stand for nothing will shallow anything. So open wide you clowns.
This is what you desired and worked for.
Posted by: Veritas at January 22, 2013 01:57 PM (dkV2L)
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Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at January 21, 2013 10:30 AM (yiIja)