April 14, 2013

The Recurring Rate of Non-Recovery
— Dave in Texas

This is depressing. Geoff measures labor stats from a different perspective: those who are earning paychecks and those who aren't in the Obama "recovery".

It's not pretty.

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I'm thinking of a word. I think the word is "unsustainable". I'm not sure, it has more than two syllables so perhaps I should look it up.

...

Ok yeah, that's the word.


As I sit here doing my taxes and cursing, there is one thought echoing in my stupid head. I have a job. It's a good job. I'm glad to have it. But it could all change tomorrow as it has for so many others.

Too many Americans have lost too much while their government takes even more from them to buy votes to keep themselves in power. It sickens me. This is no way to run a railroad.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 09:48 AM | Comments (112)
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1 Too many Americans have lost too much while their government takes even more from them to buy votes to keep themselves in power. 40% total tax bite as I use my IRA's for income. ...and I consider myself lucky to be getting money out before inflation takes it all.

Posted by: t-bird at April 14, 2013 09:49 AM (FcR7P)

2 those chumps who are earning paychecks and those who aren't in the Obama "recovery" have figured out they can live off the chumps.

All this fucking overtime, I can't afford to pay the taxes on it.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at April 14, 2013 09:51 AM (hO8IJ)

3 Dammit, got my /s in the wrong place.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at April 14, 2013 09:51 AM (hO8IJ)

4 At a point it becomes a chumps verses the Obama voting bloc...  On the bright side,... it sure is a beautiful day in north Texas!  you guys..

Posted by: Yip at April 14, 2013 09:53 AM (/jHWN)

5 Cloward Piven. Let It Burn

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at April 14, 2013 09:54 AM (XvrTA)

6 Some illegal alien amnesty is sure to help that.

Posted by: dogfish at April 14, 2013 09:54 AM (nsOJa)

7 Paid $7200 in taxes this year. Have to make installment payments that end the next time taxes are due again. Depressing is right. My wife had two PT jobs that hosed us, and put us in a higher tax bracket. Now we will dump as much $ as we can into my 401k so it puts me down into a lower bracket. Lessons learned.

Posted by: Citation X driver at April 14, 2013 09:55 AM (hhAGy)

8 So, an engineered loss of 6% of the population working fulltime. A gap of 18 million jobs so far? Hell of a record, Sparky.

Posted by: t-bird at April 14, 2013 09:56 AM (FcR7P)

9 _____________________________________
 
   "This is no way to run a railroad."

That's right. And sooner than we can afford, the train is going to jump the tracks banking a curve.

And it's going to be damned ugly.






Posted by: _Dave_ at April 14, 2013 09:59 AM (J+Q+d)

10 Invitation for bored and/or irritated Morons or 'Ette's wanting to lash out at a liberal spewing nonsense.

Please join me this afternoon on the Washington Post article,
In the Kermit Gosnell case, conservative watchdogs rattle the mainstream mediaÂ’s cage


You could all, hands down, feel good about batting them around. It is not as busy and swarming today as Friday or yesterday. I guess they are saving up their wrath for tomorrow and WaPo finally sending a reporter to Gosnell's trial.


Anyway, if you are bored, have had too much to drink already, or just want to mess with people, you are invited. Thanks.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 14, 2013 10:00 AM (baL2B)

11 Now we will dump as much $ as we can into my 401k so it puts me down into a lower bracket.

Yes. Please. Do that. It'll make it easier to seize when I need to.

Posted by: Ben Bernanke at April 14, 2013 10:01 AM (hO9ad)

12 I'm going long on Curb Feelers and Horchata.

Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2013 10:04 AM (d/8Hz)

13

Says it all, doesn't it?  Pre-Obama, post-Obama.

 

Well, technically Pelosi and Reid started the slide...

Posted by: AmishDude at April 14, 2013 10:05 AM (xSegX)

14 "Civil disobedience becomes a sacred duty when the state has become lawless or corrupt. And a citizen who barters with such a state shares in its corruption and lawlessness...There is only one sovereign remedy, namely, non-violent non-cooperation." - Mohandas Gandhi

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 14, 2013 10:06 AM (JQuNB)

15 Ugh,depressing threads, gonna leave for awhile and do something pleasant perhaps forget about Rome errrr I mean the USA burning to hell while Gaylord laughs. He's to fucking stupid to play the fiddle

Posted by: Misanthropic humanitarian fka irishacres at April 14, 2013 10:06 AM (HVff2)

16 I'd like you all to meet my new labor secretarty, Mr. John Henry.

Posted by: President Weaseldick at April 14, 2013 10:07 AM (WM+rJ)

17 Squirrel? Oh yeah the Masters is starting. Squirrel.

Posted by: eleven at April 14, 2013 10:08 AM (fsLdt)

18 My wife had two PT jobs that hosed us, and put us in a higher tax bracket.

Lose the W-2 PT's and start thinking underground cash economy type work. 

Posted by: @PurpAv at April 14, 2013 10:08 AM (/gHaE)

19 "Civil disobedience becomes a sacred duty when the state has become lawless or corrupt. And a citizen who barters with such a state shares in its corruption and lawlessness...There is only one sovereign remedy, namely, non-violent non-cooperation." - Mohandas Gandhi

Karl Denninger has been calling for a national strike until the deficit gets ended (and more recently until price transparency is brought to the scamalicious medical industry) for years.

Unfortunately few are willing to let go of their current, illusory comfort to make it stick. For my part, I'm already unemployed and living with my parents, so I'm not feeding the beast with taxes, not saving (to be grabbed later at Leviathan's convenience), nor am I taking any more than would otherwise occur.

Not sure what more can be done.

Posted by: Methos at April 14, 2013 10:12 AM (hO9ad)

20 All according to the schedule. (insert maniacal laughter here.)

Posted by: Your Betters at April 14, 2013 10:12 AM (ndlFj)

Posted by: Grateful Dead at April 14, 2013 10:12 AM (d/8Hz)

22 "Americans think taxes are fair." That's a quote from Chris Matthews on today's show. He was referring to an IRS survey that shows most respondents said taxes are "fair" rather than "not fair." Were all the respondents tax-payers? Who knows, ptobably not. Were all the respondents American citizens? Probably not. But the message is: Americans think tax rates are fair.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 14, 2013 10:12 AM (Vhc4u)

23 My boss, a rich activist limousine liberal, gave out bonuses.  I used mine to become a life member of NRA, first time member. 

Posted by: goathead at April 14, 2013 10:15 AM (bWQXp)

24

"Lose the W-2 PT's and start thinking underground cash economy type work"

 

 

Not a bad suggestion, and it should be followed or accompanied by the practice of paying cash or bartering for as much as possible.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 14, 2013 10:16 AM (enBmn)

25 btw, do all of you know that Chris Matthews has a syndicated Sunday show? On his Sunday show, Matthews is much more calm and moderate.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 14, 2013 10:17 AM (uaJ2E)

26 But the message is: Americans think tax rates are fair.

Of course it is fair.

Posted by: The 40% blood sucking, non taxpaying ticks at April 14, 2013 10:17 AM (nsOJa)

27

>>Not a bad suggestion, and it should be followed or accompanied by the practice of paying cash or bartering for as much as possible.

 

 

This is what is so brilliant about Ace's 'Cheesesteak for Ass' plan. 

Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2013 10:18 AM (d/8Hz)

28
I'm here to turn that economic frown upside down, with my laser like focus on jobs, and stuff! My friends in the media will help frame the conversation in terms that paint my regal person in cotton-candy unicorn farts.

Remember, peasants, it's "Steak yesterday, steak tomorrow, but never steak today".


Posted by: King Barky The Oneth at April 14, 2013 10:18 AM (0IhFx)

29 It's not about paying cash, it's about earning cash.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 14, 2013 10:19 AM (Fz2C7)

30

My part-time second job puts me in a new bracket as I get a 1099.  Can't quit because it's a family business.  Pisses me off I have send even more money than what was confiscated already for Barky McFuckstick to waste.

Posted by: Infidel at April 14, 2013 10:19 AM (gqEUi)

31 Durbin is a douchnozzel.

Posted by: Infidel at April 14, 2013 10:20 AM (gqEUi)

32

Isn't  tax  law  and  gun  law  optional  just  like  immigration  law?   They  can't  just  send  all  those  illegal  immigrants  back  to  their  home  country because  it  would  be  cruel  to  their  families  that  were  born  here.   Then they  can't  send  tax  law  breakers  to  jail  because  it  would  be  cruel  to their  families  who  were  born  here.

 

Help  me  out  here Rubio  and  McCain.  . 

Posted by: First Principles of Law at April 14, 2013 10:21 AM (YOWAW)

33 Cheesesteak for ass?....please expound on that while I dig out the Velveeta...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 14, 2013 10:21 AM (enBmn)

34
This is what is so brilliant about Ace's 'Cheesesteak for Ass' plan.

You haven't read my new budget plan, have you?

Posted by: King Barky The Oneth at April 14, 2013 10:22 AM (0IhFx)

35 Morning all.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 14, 2013 10:22 AM (jE38p)

36 I'm a huge fan of ace's Cheesesteak for Ass plan. Huge. I'm trying to implement French Fries for FUPA with limited success, but Pancakes for Pity Sex is going well.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at April 14, 2013 10:26 AM (GmTxn)

37 If anybody wants me to use a 1099 for any work I do, my rates go up accordingly, at a of minimum 25%.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 14, 2013 10:27 AM (Fz2C7)

38 All i got for my enchilada was an elbow.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 14, 2013 10:28 AM (026j9)

39 All I got for my enchiladas was an elbow. ---- Kinky.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at April 14, 2013 10:29 AM (GmTxn)

40 I was going to write something about my Tax return but now knowing the IRS is reading this, the only thing I can say is I want to pay as much as I can to fund the liberal agenda.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 14, 2013 10:33 AM (jE38p)

41

>>All i got for my enchilada was an elbow.

 

When that happens to me I fish around in there a bit...

you never know, you might find a wristatch.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 14, 2013 10:34 AM (m7Jk9)

42 It's too nice to be inside, bitching on the laptop.  Go outside, already and refresh yourself.  The opportunities for bitching will be there tomorrow, I promise.

Posted by: pep at April 14, 2013 10:36 AM (6TB1Z)

43 Johnny Cash - Sixteen Tons
http://youtu.be/tfp2O9ADwGk

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 14, 2013 10:36 AM (AgRBF)

44

I was going to send this 42 second funny tax time video to Ace for tomorrow, but considering this is kind of a tax thread, you could probably use the laugh.

 

http://tinyurl.com/248gxo7

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 14, 2013 10:38 AM (AC0lD)

Posted by: D.R.I. at April 14, 2013 10:39 AM (m7Jk9)

46

I am sitting on my back patio, listening to the fountain in the pond, sipping a scotch and enjoying a cigar while I bitch on the computer that is very fucking much. And that stupid lawn mower hasn't done damn thing since I got out here.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 14, 2013 10:39 AM (mdhED)

47 "It's too nice to be inside"

We've got about 4 inches of snow since nine this morning, but it's improving, it's sleeting now.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 14, 2013 10:40 AM (Fz2C7)

48

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 14, 2013 02:36 PM (AgRBF)

 

 

Papaw lost his arm mining the Hazard Number Nine coal seam at the Blue
Diamond, Kentucky mine camp. Dad has some of the script that the company did in fact pay miners with to shop at the company store.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 14, 2013 10:41 AM (026j9)

49 Snow all over the Rockies for the next few days.

Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2013 10:41 AM (m7Jk9)

50 Yeah I'm in the middle of doing my taxes too.

If you really want your blood to boil, check out Form 8863.

Certain students can get a *refundable* tax credit for their tuition expenses, *even if* it was paid for with student loan money...

and of course student loans aren't counted as income...

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2013 10:43 AM (BBWjt)

51 I've already told you about the empty shopping centers, businesses closing, and houses for sale forever. I took Miss Emily to a religious conference she hosted- right before she died. It was where she used to work, Honey Creek. The whole area had been developing madly before she quit in 2007. ( Note date? ) Realtors all up & down the road, new fire station. She was horrified by the change since then- not one Realtor was still in business. The fire station was shuttered & empty. Hope those who voted for this garbage like all that change....

Posted by: backhoe at April 14, 2013 10:44 AM (ULH4o)

52 "Certain students can get a *refundable* tax credit for their tuition expenses"

Which I'm sure they'll give to their parents instead of blowing it on tattoos or crappy flavored booze.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 14, 2013 10:46 AM (Fz2C7)

53

Update on seeing Jupiter in daylight: ain't working for me too well.  I know exactly where it is, and when I look slightly to one side of there, a tiny speck pops into view.  But if I look at it directly it goes away.  This is a well-known technique called "averted vision" that astronomers have used since Hell thawed out, but it is not very satisfying.

More info on how far from the moon to look: about 6 moon-widths along a line north through the tips of the "horns".  Thar he be, but ye'll have to have better eyes than mine to see the bugger!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 14, 2013 10:48 AM (6rLSO)

54 Which I'm sure they'll give to their parents instead of blowing it on tattoos or crappy flavored booze.

Hey! Crappy flavored booze employs people!

Posted by: Boone's local #152 at April 14, 2013 10:48 AM (hO9ad)

55 Aussie looking good for the Masters, so far...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 14, 2013 10:50 AM (XYSwB)

56 Which I'm sure they'll give to their parents instead of blowing it on tattoos or crappy flavored booze.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 14, 2013 02:46 PM (Fz2C7)


don't you be dissing MD 20/20

Posted by: The Dude at April 14, 2013 10:51 AM (vJdyz)

57 so, if I understand it all, King Barky plans to cut taxes by not raising taxes as much as he wanted to, plus he's going to cut social welfare programs by letting them grow by a tiny few percent less than he wanted. Can I get a job doing that? I think I'd be very good at it.
I also see that we're going to convince N Korea to stop being crazy by removing our defenses from that area. I must remember to learn from my betters and start leaving the doors and windows unlocked when I go out for the day.
I must also tell my female other that she would look more glamorous if she wore gowns that looked exactly like the drapes and shower curtains.
Thank you, King Barky, mmm mmm mmm.

Posted by: mallfly at April 14, 2013 10:51 AM (bJm7W)

58

if I look at it directly it goes away

 

Bob Dole has a fix for that.

Posted by: Bob Dole at April 14, 2013 10:56 AM (m7Jk9)

59 I guess this is why the lefties have been crowing all over social media about that CNN poll that showed 50 percent of Americans are happy

If they're happy, they must be crazy or drugged

Posted by: kbdabear at April 14, 2013 11:01 AM (mCvL4)

60
Yeah I'm in the middle of doing my taxes too.
If you really want your blood to boil, check out Form 8863.
Posted by: chemjeff





The one that gets me gritting my teeth every year is the special tax credit for owning a home in Washington DC.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 14, 2013 11:01 AM (kdS6q)

61 from a recent weasel zippers post; This sounds positive... Gun-Rights Leader: “We Snookered The Other Side – They Haven’t Figured It Out Yet” On Toomey-Manchin Background Check Deal, We Made It A “Pro-Gun Bill”… http://tinyurl.com/crm29at A prominent gun-rights advocate claims his group’s staff was in the room during the drafting of the recently unveiled proposal to expand gun-purchase background checks and said that “we snookered the other side — they haven’t figured it out yet.” ... “It’s a Christmas tree,” Mr. Gottlieb said. “We just hung a million ornaments on it.” “We’re taking the background check and making it a pro-gun bill,” he added. “Unfortunately, some of my colleagues haven’t quite figured it out yet because they weren’t sitting in the room writing it,” he continued. “My staff was. I’ll be perfectly candid about it. This will probably break on Monday in the Wall Street Journal.”

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 14, 2013 11:01 AM (XYSwB)

62 Money saving tips from an old lady:

1. If you know several people who are short of funds, consider having rotating pitch-in dinners.  Use those old-timey casserole recipes from your grandma and get together for a dinner and play cards or board games.  Pitch in for a couple of bottles of inexpensive wine or a couple of six-packs.  In summer,  grill out hot dogs and have salads and such.

2. Do not buy clothing new unless it can be avoided,  particularly for children.  Swap hand-me-downs with others,  shop garage sales, church rummage sales,  and resale shops.

3. Grow a small garden. 

4. Shop wisely.  Make up menus for 1-2 weeks and buy only items needed.  Do not deviate from your list. Shop sales for necessities like detergent and for staples.

5. Go in with neighbors and stage a garage sale or two.  Dump those old books,  computer games, clothes, and bric-a-brac.


Posted by: Miss Marple at April 14, 2013 11:02 AM (GoIUi)

63

". But if I look at it directly it goes away. "

 

 

We implore you, please look dirctly at president Obama.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 14, 2013 11:04 AM (026j9)

64 Miss Marple, the whole idea of collecting welfare is so you don't need to have the shame of doing all those things you recommend.

Posted by: mallfly at April 14, 2013 11:06 AM (bJm7W)

65 DJIA 15K? Will Obama get/take the credit? Yes. Will you all be shocked and outraged? Yes.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 14, 2013 11:07 AM (jlW3q)

66 59 I guess this is why the lefties have been crowing all over social media about that CNN poll that showed 50 percent of Americans are happy

If they're happy, they must be crazy or drugged

Posted by: kbdabear at April 14, 2013 03:01 PM (mCvL4)

 

More than 50% of Americans collect some sort of check from the government.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 14, 2013 11:07 AM (AC0lD)

67 Mr. and Mrs. Zod paid their tithe to Leviathan yesterday. We had used H&R to make sure that all our papers were ordentlich in the past, but this time we did it online to save the $600. It ate one of my paychecks and put a kink in our "eliminate all but house debt by 2013 end" plan. Fucking parasites. BTW, I'm in Virginia, and I hate my congressional representation. Also, I'm sorry to that part of America that retains its senses that my fucked-up state voted twice for the JV team. It wasn't this way when I was coming up.

Posted by: General Zod at April 14, 2013 11:07 AM (2+bRt)

68 Seriously, Team Moron: what's the endpoint? At what point do sane, relatively solvent states (led by Texas, obviously) politely ask for the Constitution and disinvite the portion of the populace that doesn't care for it anyway? Let It Burn is inevitable. When do we start the preplanning for societal reconstruction?

Posted by: Doctor Cynic at April 14, 2013 11:09 AM (VVAyw)

69
BTW - This year is the 100th anniversary of the Revenue Act of 1913, which instituted our modern income tax after the passage of the 16th Amendment.

Saaaaa-lute!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 14, 2013 11:13 AM (kdS6q)

70 You really want to cry? This is government at the barrel of a gun. There is a de facto death sentence for your non-cooperation. Try to ignore them, at your peril. Worse yet, the people in the government, from the president to the dogcatcher, no longer have the moral authority to lead. This began long before Obama. It's over.

Posted by: JB at April 14, 2013 11:14 AM (4j9Tt)

71 re 69: well, everyone at the time did agree that it was a good idea. But, as Hillary! says, what does it matter now, we learn from our mistakes

Posted by: mallfly at April 14, 2013 11:14 AM (bJm7W)

72 Posted by: Miss Marple at April 14, 2013 03:02 PM (GoIUi) I never buy clothes if it's not on sale. And, I always buy at the end of the season, when they dump the stuff. I stick with classic lines that are timeless versus trendy crap. And, since I mostly buy online, I make sure I get free shipping, and use coupons and promo codes for percentages off purchases. There are sites dedicated to giving you the coupons/codes for shopping online. I also have a freezer for my meat (buying in bulk) and garden harvest (as well as my herbs -- I rarely have to buy fresh herbs).

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 14, 2013 11:15 AM (XYSwB)

73 anyway,  it can't be that bad yet, can it? They haven't issued a postage stamp with Gus Hall on it.

Posted by: mallfly at April 14, 2013 11:17 AM (bJm7W)

74 >politely ask for the Constitution<< Never. It's like boiling a frog; we'll accept universal background checks, then we'll allow magazine limitations, then our states will surrender concealed-carry docs to DHS. In time, through constitutional erosion, proles will be well and truly teamed in the traces. I'll be dead before then, I think, but I've already lived long enough to see my neighbors accept the bull-ring as a fashion statement instead of a shackle.

Posted by: General Zod at April 14, 2013 11:17 AM (2+bRt)

75 "Seriously, Team Moron: what's the endpoint?"

Not for a while, I would bet the eventual financial collapse will be the trigger. A lot of people still think the leftist turn we've been taking can be reversed by an election. Ain't going to happen.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 14, 2013 11:20 AM (Fz2C7)

76
anyway, it can't be that bad yet, can it? They haven't issued a postage stamp with Gus Hall on it.
Posted by: mallfly




The Post Office issued stamps for Paul Robeson and Richard Wright, both pro-Stalin party members.

It's that bad.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 14, 2013 11:22 AM (kdS6q)

77
   You doomsayers can accept what is proposed.


     I wont.

    Years back, I took an oath--the same that many here did.

    That oath has no expiration date.  Fulfilling that oath to your best ability does not always require a gun. THAT is ALWAYS the true last resort.

    Sufficient has been said about procedure, now the really difficult part is in front--actually DOING your part, whatever it may be.

    And you all know this.

    

Posted by: irongrampa at April 14, 2013 11:24 AM (SAMxH)

78 re 76: NYC has had a Norman Thomas HS in the middle of Manhattan for years. Somehow makes sense.

Posted by: mallfly at April 14, 2013 11:24 AM (bJm7W)

79 anyway, it can't be that bad yet, can it? They haven't issued a postage stamp with Gus Hall on it.

Posted by: mallfly at April 14, 2013 03:17 PM (bJm7W)

 

Who is Gus Hall? Is the fact that I've never heard of him further proof that there's a problem?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 14, 2013 11:25 AM (wbeNt)

80

Who is Gus Hall? Is the fact that I've never heard of him further proof that there's a problem?

 

Former President/ General Secretary / whatever of the CPUSA.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 14, 2013 11:29 AM (IDSI7)

81  This is no way to run a railroad.
xxx

Sure it is, if you secretly are from the horse and buggy company and want to put the railroad out of business. If so, then what's happening is perfect.

Yep.

Cloward Piven in action baby.

/you've got wonder if O is thinking "could I destroy the U.S. quicker if I got Korea to nuke us? Maybe then I could be elected President for Life.

Posted by: shbiumi at April 14, 2013 11:30 AM (z63Tr)

82
Who is Gus Hall?
Posted by: Polliwog



"And while we're on the subject -- Kids!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 14, 2013 11:30 AM (kdS6q)

83 People on welfare give up even more rights.  If you are in Section 8 housing,  they have the right to enter your house for an inspection at any time. My sister used to work for a company that owned a Section 8 apartment complex, and when the HUD inspector came,  she had to let him in to see if the apartment was in compliance as far as the landlord's duties.  Of course,  the fact that people were IN the apartments made no difference to the inspector.  And the inspections were always "surprises."

Welfare people are always subject to visits from social workers,  and they have to keep filling out forms and such. 

Of course,  most who have been on it for a long time just accept this and know how to get around it.  It's a sad statement on what people will put up with for a government check.




Posted by: Miss Marple at April 14, 2013 11:33 AM (GoIUi)

84 To all you morons bitching about sending checks tomorrow; f*ck you, you should have worked longer hours, more overtime, and paid more taxes. Or worked more pt jobs. My life, and free benefits, is infinitely more important then you actually having one. Do you realize how worn out my sofa is? My EBT card isn't gonna fill up by itself. Geez, what a bunch of slackers.

Posted by: The 47% [/i] at April 14, 2013 11:33 AM (feFL6)

85

Posted by: The 47% at April 14, 2013 03:33 PM (feFL6)

 

Nice rant but you're actually in the 53%. It's the 47% who pay the bills.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 14, 2013 11:42 AM (AC0lD)

86

The recovery might finally have been arriving - with a vengeance - right now, but a sizeable chunk of the voters (ironically, the ones who have been hurt the most) didn't vote for it because they didn't like the color of the guy's skin.

 

So at least they're getting what they deserve for their racism. Too bad other people end up hurt besides. All over the world, really.

Posted by: Optimizer at April 14, 2013 11:42 AM (Mxt9o)

87

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 14, 2013 03:29 PM (IDSI7)

 

Thanks. The older I get the more I find out I don't know.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 14, 2013 11:46 AM (wbeNt)

88 Well, I am now bored with smacking a few Washington Post blow-hards around today. It is just not the same without them swarming, as apparently Sunday is their day of rest. Tomorrow is another day! I appear to have succeeded in putting that post re: Gosnell and little national press to rest.

Bless their hearts, here is the synopsis of their vocabulary responses to the opposition: "wing-nut, American Taliban, goobers and goobs (both very popular), right-wing, Teanderthal (this was a new one for me...they combined Tea Bagger with Neanderthal! Eleventy!). Then, when their wee backs are against the wall, they throw in the murder of Tiller and/or Bush's war in Iraq. Faux News, of course. This under the story of Gosnell's slaughterhouse. Oh, and they start wailing that abortion will now be unsafe. Linking other slaugherhouses sort of shuts that argument up. Today I had the opportunity to throw in some Benghazi in the mix, led by their own topic stating that Gosnell and Benghazi are right wing propaganda or some crap. Little did they know I was obsessed and have a sharp memory of major details in Benghazi (it is a pity I cannot recall yesterday). So I silenced that lamb (pun intended as Lamb was the State Dept Rep at the first Congressional Hearing on Benghazi).

I even managed to compare Jug-Ears war in Libya, tying with a big red bow the Muslim Brotherhood and the potential gun-walking in Libya to Syria when Iraq came up today.

I am tired, so time for vino. Pay attention tomorrow, Morons and 'ettes, as there may be more reporters at the Gosnell trial now that the news agencies, thanks to conservative bloggers and Kristen Powers and others, have shamed the living daylights out of them. It will be interesting to see their spin at the mass murder trial. Meanwhile. I am pooped but ran off a few who did not want to mess with me. My little contribution to Ace's relay on this topic.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 14, 2013 11:47 AM (baL2B)

89

BTW, is anybody still pretending to believe that Obama ISN'T a socialist? Even after his "you didn't build that" socialist manifesto?

 

Maybe it's like his gay marriage stance, where when he "came out" on it nobody got all shocked and outraged because the right knew he was lying about it in the first place, and the only people on the left (who also knew he was lying) that are against it, again, only care about the color of his skin.

Posted by: Optimizer at April 14, 2013 11:52 AM (Mxt9o)

90

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 14, 2013 03:47 PM (baL2B)

 

You're a trooper.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 14, 2013 11:54 AM (wbeNt)

91 Credit where credit is due: January 4th 2007: The day Pelosi became Speaker of the Democratically controlled 110th Congress DJIA end of session: 12,800.18 National unemployment rate for December 2006: 4.5% 2006 Federal Budget Deficit: $247.7 billion Average GDP growth for 2006: 3.4% Median Home Value in December 2006: $244,700 Average price for Regular Unleaded Gasoline December 2006: $2.30 Federal Debt as % of GDP 2006: 64.55 Nonfarm employment in thousands Dec 2006: 137,000 In the 12 years of Republican Congress, average annual deficit: $104 billion

Posted by: toby928© at April 14, 2013 11:56 AM (QupBk)

92 "Head's up" to any 'Ettes or lurking 'Ettes who are the tiniest bit interested in knitting, crocheting, weaving, etc. We've started a group called "'Ettes of the  Moron Horde" over at Ravelry. It's free to get  a Rav account and then just search "groups" for the name given. We've got threads on lots of stuff and it's a break from politics or slow threads here. 

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 14, 2013 12:01 PM (wbeNt)

93 #89  I don['t think he's even a socialist.  I think he is an anti-American nation-wrecker who will do whatever policy is the most destructive.  This is why we have both socialist policies and crony-capitalism.

It's like his foreign policy.  No wars which are bad except Libya good and lotsa drones everywhere.  He does whatever he feels like doing and its left up to carney to try and explain how he isn't inconsistent,  no matter what the evidence says.

He has been out to destroy this country since the day he was inaugurated.  He hates all of us,  even those of the black community,  whom he sees as suckers easily duped by a few nice words by Beyonce and Jay-Z.

He's out to destroy churches,  too,  at least those who stand up to him.  And I have no idea he would like to Israel destroyed as well.

well,  I have said this about once a week so I will be quiet.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 14, 2013 12:03 PM (GoIUi)

94 Flipping channels I just stumbled on possibly the gayest TV show ever. It's on NBC. Some sort of combo figure skating and gymnastics Olympic dance show. There's a gymnastics floor in the middle of an ice rink and the Olympians from both sports are doing coordinated dancing between them. Apparently gymnasts are really bad dancers. Also a lot of the gymnast girls have apparently gotten chunky. Oddest thing I've seen on TV in a long, long time. It came on NBC right after a Monster Truck show. NBC is trying balance out their femme and butch sides I guess.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 14, 2013 12:12 PM (ZPrif)

95

ChristyBlinky is reminding me a little of St Andrew Breitbart.  The country needs so many more of you guys.  I really never thought I'd live to see the day where somebody who steps up as a staunch supporter of the US Constitution would literally be derided as a "radical".

 

On a side note, I wonder if the horde has heard about the brownshirts having arrived in Western NY.  It was actually a little heartening, that when the light was shined on those cockroaches, they scattered in a hurry, even here in the People's Republic of WNY.  OTOH, it was exactly like Fast and Furious, or Benghazi, where suddenly nobody knows what happened, or who possibly could have issued the orders, or why. It was all a big mistake, you see!

 

What happened was that one guy in particular (although there was at least one other, who I didn't as much about) had the local authorities contact him, demanding that he surrender his guns - that this was at the request of the NYS police, who (according to the letter) had investigated him and determined that since he had been prescribed an anti-anxiety drug at some point in his life that they were revoking his license to have them. Further, that his guns would be destroyed in one year if his license was not reinstated.

 

So we had a trifecta of Unconstitutionality, from denial of the right to bear arms, to illegal search (of his medical records), to denial of due process in seizing his property. Not to mention violation of Federal HEPA (or is it HIPA?) laws.

 

So, consistent with the handling of Benghazi, we are being asked to believe a variety of patently absurd things. First of all, they said it was a case of mistaken identity (as if there's some other guy in WNY with his name who has also has anti-anxiety drugs prescribed). Then you have the locals and the state police pointing fingers at each other. We're not supposed to notice that this comes at the exact same time that Gov Cuomo is pushing his fascist guns laws, while Obama is pushing for the same.

 

The local media was unintentionally funny, actually reporting the case, but in a "nothing to see here" way (cue Frank Drebin...). One reported the "fact" that it was simply a "mistake", which is basically like catching your kid with his hand in the cookie jar, asking him what's going on, having them say "Oh, my bad - I thought it was a bran muffin!", and then your saying, "Well, that must be what happened then!!" They literally reported the perpetrator's side of the story as fact. One reporter even went so far as to say, "no word yet on whether they have tracked down the correct person yet." Wow. How gullible can you get?

Posted by: Optimizer at April 14, 2013 12:22 PM (Mxt9o)

96

Posted by: Optimizer at April 14, 2013 04:22 PM (Mxt9o)

 

"Mistaken identity" is hardly a good argument for them. They're basically saying "Oh, we didn't mean to illegally abridge *this* guys rights, we meant to illegally abridge *that* guys rights. Al better now?"

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, assault Hobbit at April 14, 2013 12:26 PM (wbeNt)

97 Jesus things crashed under bush and.haven't. Gotten any better except for the 1%

Posted by: occam at April 14, 2013 12:31 PM (UtKqI)

98 easily duped by a few nice words by Beyonce Beyonce who says, "put a ring on it" is met with a yawn. Some conservative like Dr. Laura asks, "Do you have a ring and a date?" and she's a h8ter, out of touch with the AA community. I had to laugh out loud when I saw that.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at April 14, 2013 12:41 PM (feFL6)

99 "Unsustainable" is the word for everything the "enemy" ( according to Hussein Obama) does. Giving weapons to the Muslim Brotherhood? Unsustainable The E.P.A.? Unsustainable War on profit and capitalism? Unsustainable Normalization of perversion? Unsustainable I could go on, but you all know already. The question is, what comes after?

Posted by: Obamas mamas pajamas at April 14, 2013 12:44 PM (tB0Ek)

100

#93 "#89 I don['t think he's even a socialist. I think he is an anti-American nation-wrecker who will do whatever policy is the most destructive. This is why we have both socialist policies and crony-capitalism. ..."

 

I am honored by your response, Miss Marple, but am surprised that you seem to be implying that being a socialist and being an "anti-American nation-wrecker" are mutually exclusive.

 

I think it was Jerry Boyer (IIRC) where I first heard the theory that Obama is a Fabian Socialist. He said he recognized it because his father had been one. That was way back before Obama was elected. Since then, Glenn Beck had his show where he treated the subject in  great detail.

 

My case is this: First of all, Obama signed up for the New Party ticket, back in IL. Since that was an officially-socialist party, that shows that Obama at least WAS officially a socialist. His "Joe the Plumber" moments was a strong indicator that he remained very much a socialist, but the proof-positive came from the "you didn't build that" speech, where he told us - in his own words - his own moral justification for nationalizing any company that the govt feels like nationalizing. You just can't rattle off that kind of crap by accident, and believing that stuff is the very definition of being a socialist.

 

It's ridiculous that Romney and the supposedly right wing media never fully called it for what it was. Maybe they were cowards - afraid of being called racists or conspiracy nuts. Maybe they were just too lazy to actually look at what he said, or too ignorant to recognize it for what it was. The really remarkable thing about it is that the proof was laying right out there in plain sight - on whitehouse.gov, not some anti-Obama blog. How can a guy who so completely repudiated what is commonly called "the American Dream" get re-elected? We have been disarmed by political correctness and are paying dearly for it now.

 

The only explanation for why anybody would spend ALL their political capital - even sacrificing their political allies in the process - to install a  huge new entitlement program at a time when the national debt is spiraling out of control, and then piss away $1T to run it up further, and then favorable compare yourself to FDR (Social Security), Johnson (Medicare/Medicaid), and Lincoln (mentioned last, only because he freed the slaves) is Cloward-Piven. That's the Fabian Socialist tactic of "transforming America" (into a socialist state), by tearing it down (and then blaming capitalism!).

 

It's all too obvious, at this point, I'd say.

 

Posted by: Optimizer at April 14, 2013 12:46 PM (Mxt9o)

101 Went to see 12 Angry Men put on by Local Arts Council. It was a word for word remake of the movie, no PC bedazzling or updating. It was actually good.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 14, 2013 12:58 PM (ZshNr)

102

' 96 Posted by: Optimizer at April 14, 2013 04:22 PM (Mxt9o)

"Mistaken identity" is hardly a good argument for them. They're basically saying "Oh, we didn't mean to illegally abridge *this* guys rights, we meant to illegally abridge *that* guys rights. Al better now?"  '

 

Part of the unintentional hilarity. I guess you're supposed to jump to the conclusion that they were REALLY after one of those crazy guys, like who had perpetrated one of the recent gun-free-zone shooting sprees. You're supposed to trust that these guys know what their doing, and have you safety at heart, even though - by THEIR story - they're screw-ups.

 

Being statists, it probably never even occurs to these reporters that the police statements should not be taken as fact in an instance where THEY are the accused.

 

This is REALLY bad s**t.  This guy had NO criminal record - was what you might call a "model citizen" in every way. They illegally accessed his medical files, and took his guns away on a lame pretext. They wouldn't even let him simply sell them instead (there are six or seven, some fairly expensive). He used them for sport shooting at a range.

 

But, hey - there are dead kids in CT, so - as Hillary famously put it - "What difference does it make!?!"

 

Posted by: Optimizer at April 14, 2013 01:04 PM (Mxt9o)

103 @97  Que dice?

Posted by: Jesus at April 14, 2013 01:04 PM (EZl54)

104 Just watched the Psy video linked in the sidebar. That guy's pretty good and he's got the pants thing goin' on. But he's gay as shit.

Posted by: MC Hammer at April 14, 2013 01:13 PM (JQuNB)

105 95
ChristyBlinky is reminding me a little of St Andrew Breitbart.


Do not think I have been so humbled. Thank you. If every Moron and "ette, with the boldness and talent here amongst the horde, would take Ace's lead and swat crazy libs at their own game the truth will be read by some. Or, that is what I figure. You will easily recognize me on that blog by Erik Wemple, as I mock, therefore I rule. They have no concept how to handle mocking in their narcissism and constant need to "win" arguments as they take offense at any, and I mean, any light shown on their little progressive parade. It is like taking candy from a baby, or in their case, liberal offended boys in Mama's basement with index cards listing insults (which I mocked all weekend).


This week may be important in the abortion fight. Please join me at WaPo and elsewhere. Let the truth be known. Mock, as only Morons and 'Ette's know best. You have practice here...use it. Love you all.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 14, 2013 01:31 PM (baL2B)

106 P.S.

If you are board, drunk or angry (or all three! The Trifecta!), please join me at the Washington Post blog tonight.

Here is where I signed off on the subject of Gosnell if you do a search in the blog under Gosnell. You will recognize me, I am sure. Tomorrow, after they actually fill one of those empty chairs of the reserved chairs for reporters, it could get interesting. Here is the current thread if you search under Gosnell where I have been a-mocking and swatting:

"In the Kermit Gosnell case, conservative watchdogs rattle the mainstream mediaÂ’s cage"

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 14, 2013 01:44 PM (baL2B)

107 I have a job, a good job in fact.  In fact it's a new job that took me a year to find while I was being driven crazy in my old job.  I am grateful...  I have savings, I do not live paycheck to paycheck for the first time in my life.  I am grateful...  But I work downtown in a large-ish city now and I see where my local, state and federal taxes are going.  And I wonder why in the hell I got sober 21 years ago, learned a skill, got a college education and improved my lot in life, day after day, year after year, just so the governments can take a bigger and bigger chunk of my hard earned money so others can continue to make stupid decisions; decisions that don't seem to have consequences.  Decisions that on the face of it make absolutely no fucking sense in that they are harder to implement than just doing the "right thing".  I am very ready for retirement...

Posted by: UncleScreech at April 14, 2013 01:57 PM (OvQ8R)

108
Some sort of combo figure skating and gymnastics Olympic dance show.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe




NBC Skating and Gymnastics Spectacular

Despite that gymnastics and skating are two different sports and compete in different Olympics, the cast says there are a lot of similarities between the two that many people don't realize.

Some of the skaters even admitted to trying gymnastics when they were younger.



"Ha! Ha! Multiple entendre!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 14, 2013 01:59 PM (kdS6q)

109 Give credit where credit is due, dunderkind. It took the Democrats less than two years to destroy the economy.

Posted by: toby928© at April 14, 2013 03:14 PM (QupBk)

110 and.haven't. Gotten any better But it's good that you realize that your mocha messiah is incompetent. Baby steps.

Posted by: toby928© at April 14, 2013 03:15 PM (QupBk)

111 I believe it was Miss Marple who had the helpful tips fo living well with less. I liked them all,I especially liked the have a garden suggestion. In 2007 I began putting in 22 8x6 raised beds. It took two years to finish, but now we have asparagus enough to enjoy and save, pickles galore, tomatoes galore,blackberries,raspberries and strawberries,TONS of garlic,bees to pollenate and make delicious honey plus about a dozen beds for salad greens and anything else we want. When all this comes down......which it will, we will at least have something to eat.

Posted by: Baconfat at April 14, 2013 03:30 PM (V9ENJ)

112 Sadly those of us who voted against another 4 years of Obama are going to suffer through this but those who voted for him or those who stayed home... you earned it.  Sympathy level: Zero.

Posted by: Daniel at April 14, 2013 04:52 PM (xTgSv)

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